=== calvin is now known as MutantTurkey
[08:59] <JonathanD> morning.
[08:59] <rmg51> morning JonathanD
[09:14] <JonathanD> hey hey
[09:30] <rmg51> hi hi
[11:32] <SamuraiAlba> Good bacon to all!
[11:39] <waltman> http://images.4chan.org/wg/src/1311770961136.jpg
[12:16] <jackson> salami SamuraiAlba
[12:42] <SamuraiAlba> hiya
[12:49] <ChinnoDog> salami?
[12:51] <jedijf> tacos
[12:51] <jedijf> moes sw today
[12:51] <jedijf> that's the plan
[12:54] <JonathanD> Morning v2.
[12:54] <teddy-dbear> o/
[15:57] <ChinnoDog> Anyone have a favorite intranet domain suffix and can tell me why you picked it?
[15:57] <ChinnoDog> e.g. ssweeny.local
[16:00] <ChinnoDog> or pleia2.lan
[16:04] <ChinnoDog> Oh. If I use .local then the computers identity could be confusing since it is used by OSX computers that are not on any domain
[16:09] <pleia2> people actually use them?
[16:09] <ChinnoDog> Yes
[16:10] <ChinnoDog> I am already administering servers on .lan and .local domains for customers
[16:11] <pleia2> that explains the exchange servers I see pouring .local adresses on to the internet
[16:12] <pleia2> always wondered about that
[16:12] <ChinnoDog> http://stats.l.root-servers.org/cgi-bin/dsc-grapher.pl?window=604800&plot=qtype_vs_all_tld&server=L-root
[16:13] <ChinnoDog> It is used by OSX for workstations not on a domain, a recommended best practice for MS for intranet domains, and I think it might even be default in the Ubuntu hosts file as an alias for the local workstation.
[16:14] <pleia2> I'm familiar with the tld allocation, I just didn't realize people were actually using it ;)
[19:50] <pleia2> now I'm curious about lan naming practices, I can't find documented that the .local tld is actually reserved for this purpose (or at all)
[19:51] <pleia2> I've always used real names that just weren't world routable
[19:52]  * pleia2 has phone.alderaan.princessleia.com etc
[19:58] <JonathanD> pleia2: I don't think they're reserved, exactly.
[19:58] <JonathanD> It was assumed no one would use them.
[20:01] <pleia2> well, you don't /need/ to reserve 192.168 if you're the governing body giving out addresses either, but they do :)
[20:07] <JonathanD> Despite not being a valid top-level domain in the Internet, considerable DNS traffic exists, querying the local domain in the public Domain Name System.[1] In June 2009, the L root server received more than 400 such queries per second,[2] ranking 4th in DNS traffic of all TLDs after COM, ARPA, and NET.
[20:08] <pleia2> yeah well, people also query localhost :)
[20:08] <pleia2> certainly seems to be a popular thing
[20:09] <pleia2> and people should probably stop leaking internal dns requests all over the internet, that's not very good form
[20:28] <ChinnoDog> pleia2: petition for a new rule. Deny DNS service to clients that search for hosts at invalid tlds.
[20:29] <ChinnoDog> I guess you could also build a DNS server that ignores them
[20:29] <ChinnoDog> Or create a .local offender blacklist. haha