| orangeninja | o/ | 00:09 |
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| cyberanger | average_guy: I'm the closest currently online, wrst is not much worse | 00:37 |
| cyberanger | I'm about 50 miles outside knoxville | 00:38 |
| cyberanger | but I head towards the smokies in Blount County often enough, folks live there | 00:38 |
| cyberanger | it is a nice area, as is kansas | 00:38 |
| cyberanger | in their own ways | 00:38 |
| average_guy | Hi cyberanger | 00:45 |
| average_guy | KS was pretty flat. I grew up in NC. My wife had never seen mountains.. | 00:45 |
| average_guy | We love it here | 00:46 |
| cyberanger | average_guy: yeah, NC is nice too | 00:46 |
| cyberanger | Old Fort & Lake Lure area, outside Asheville | 00:46 |
| cyberanger | a year and a half or so there | 00:46 |
| average_guy | cyberanger: Been using linux long? | 00:49 |
| cyberanger | average_guy: over half a decade | 00:50 |
| cyberanger | 2004 for sure | 00:50 |
| average_guy | it has come a long way in the last few years as far as usability | 00:51 |
| cyberanger | not sure if I'd used it before that, but I figure I hadn't too much (my own computer was in 2005, all live disc before that) | 00:52 |
| cyberanger | some ways it's slipped up too | 00:52 |
| cyberanger | two steps forward, one step back | 00:52 |
| cyberanger | I'm not a big fan of unity, for example | 00:52 |
| cyberanger | requires too much for little real gain | 00:53 |
| average_guy | oh yes, no doubt. I use Xfce | 00:53 |
| average_guy | It is getting a bit bloated. | 00:53 |
| average_guy | I CAN tho the way hardware is going | 00:54 |
| average_guy | I run on all older machines | 00:54 |
| cyberanger | I run lightweight on various machines, openbox or ldxe | 00:55 |
| cyberanger | even lighter than xfce (which has gotten fairly bad, xubuntu is worse, on par with ubuntu's gnome setup) | 00:55 |
| average_guy | But harddrives and memory compasity just keep climbing so it is not surprising to see that Ubuntu just keeps adding | 00:56 |
| average_guy | no doubt.. I just installed xubuntu for the first time, this week. I prefer it to the regular Ubuntu | 00:57 |
| cyberanger | for the US & UK sure, but I seem to recall a south african being involved who might realize some catchin up is needed in parts of the world | 00:58 |
| cyberanger | average_guy: have you tried Lubuntu or LXDE yet | 01:00 |
| average_guy | I have Lxde on one of my machines. | 01:00 |
| average_guy | with mint | 01:01 |
| average_guy | Haven't tried openbox tho | 01:01 |
| cyberanger | crunchbang is a good starting point then | 01:02 |
| average_guy | Lubuntu is not a full-fledged variant yet is it? | 01:02 |
| cyberanger | I'vederived my own from it | 01:02 |
| average_guy | Yeah, I've been on there site quite a bit contemplating it | 01:02 |
| cyberanger | it is, as of 11.10 (not out yet, but it's already approved, testing now) | 01:02 |
| cyberanger | Unit193: what's the one you like | 01:03 |
| cyberanger | for openbox | 01:03 |
| average_guy | You don't lose much going from Gnome to Xfce but I feel like you lose quite a bit of functionality when you go from Xfce to Lxde | 01:08 |
| cyberanger | doesn't seem that way to me | 01:22 |
| cyberanger | in fact, it seems like I gain some, due to the freed resources | 01:22 |
| average_guy | yeah, well burning lubuntu iso now | 01:34 |
| cyberanger | there's a few glitches in the daily | 01:35 |
| cyberanger | due to a change in method, to conform to other offical ubuntu distros | 01:35 |
| average_guy | oh, really? | 01:40 |
| cyberanger | yeah, but that might have been fixed in the past 24 hours | 01:40 |
| cyberanger | oversized for some unexplained reason (well, I didn't look that hard for one) and live boot was broken, but not the install | 01:41 |
| cyberanger | maybe all | 01:42 |
| cyberanger | they used a different method before | 01:42 |
| cyberanger | there's mutiple ways to make a live disc | 01:42 |
| Unit193 | cyberanger: The one I like for Openbox? Hmmm... It's not done yet or it's based on Debian (Depending on what you're talking about) | 01:43 |
| average_guy | have to go for a bit. Good to meet you | 01:44 |
| cyberanger | nice to meet you too average_guy | 01:44 |
| cyberanger | Unit193: well, both :-) | 01:44 |
| cyberanger | but you had one already done, buddist theme | 01:45 |
| Unit193 | That's Zenix (Also has awesome) | 01:45 |
| cyberanger | that's right | 01:45 |
| cyberanger | I can never recall the name | 01:46 |
| Unit193 | I also have one I built from mini (really like it) | 01:46 |
| cyberanger | average_guy: Zenix is another worthile one | 01:46 |
| cyberanger | Unit193: same here | 01:46 |
| cyberanger | and debian netinst too | 01:46 |
| Unit193 | Ubuntu adds crap that Xubuntu (and the rest) don't want or need and they have to remove all that crud | 01:53 |
| Unit193 | That's how they get oversized | 01:53 |
| cyberanger | it's that way for all | 02:03 |
| cyberanger | compare debian with gnome to ubuntu, kde to kubuntu, xfce to xubuntu, ldxe..... | 02:04 |
| Unit193 | To login to Lubuntu (or xubuntu) in lightdm, you have to select "Other" and type your username and pass or it will not work | 02:04 |
| Unit193 | It's quite different | 02:05 |
| * wrst peeks in | 02:08 | |
| * cyberanger grabs wrst & pulls him further in | 02:09 | |
| wrst | ha ha | 02:09 |
| Unit193 | It would work... | 02:10 |
| Unit193 | cyberanger: ncid has a package in GetDeb now if you feel like "running on the edge" :P | 02:20 |
| average_guy | In lubuntu now | 02:22 |
| Unit193 | average_guy: Nice, what version? | 02:23 |
| average_guy | current | 02:24 |
| average_guy | just downloaded | 02:24 |
| average_guy | running on liveCD | 02:24 |
| Unit193 | Sweet, how do you like it? Have any questions? | 02:26 |
| average_guy | It is pretty nice | 02:26 |
| average_guy | still checking it out | 02:27 |
| average_guy | I liked the panel appelets that came packaged with Xubuntu. Not much in Lubuntu | 02:29 |
| average_guy | I like a hardware monitor | 02:29 |
| Unit193 | You can always add what you need/want | 02:29 |
| average_guy | good morning | 12:22 |
| wrst | morning average_guy how are things going? | 13:13 |
| average_guy | Another beautiful day | 13:14 |
| wrst | a tad on the hotside average_guy :) but still looks nice atleast | 13:42 |
| average_guy | ridiculous how hot it's been. Don't even wanna go outside.. | 13:54 |
| cyberanger | average_guy: worse in Kansas | 14:00 |
| cyberanger | or so I hear | 14:00 |
| Xpistos | Morning | 14:02 |
| average_guy | oh yeah, I got outta there at the right time. They just had a record-setting winter and now a record-setting summer.. | 14:02 |
| average_guy | Good morning Xpistos | 14:03 |
| cyberanger | average_guy: yeah, I wanted the winter | 14:04 |
| average_guy | Not me, I was LOVING how mild the winter was here | 14:05 |
| wrst | I like me some winter also | 14:19 |
| Xpistos | Hey, do any of you know how I make a table use % instead of pixel? | 14:19 |
| Xpistos | I tried <TD WIDTH="50%"> but it didn't work | 14:20 |
| Xpistos | I got it | 14:25 |
| Xpistos | dumb nested tags | 14:25 |
| cyberanger | average_guy: well, to me, this year was mild | 14:44 |
| cyberanger | (I'm a (former?) yankee, one who misses hockey, nearest rink is knoxville ice bears) | 14:45 |
| average_guy | yeah it was nice cyberanger. I like snow, just not FEET of it | 14:45 |
| average_guy | I'd rather have cold then hot | 14:46 |
| average_guy | but anything in extreme sux | 14:47 |
| average_guy | Watching the weather worries me that we have finally screwed up the planet for good | 14:47 |
| average_guy | I'm from Chicago originally. I haven't heard anyone talk about playin hockey in years | 14:52 |
| cyberanger | average_guy: everything in moderation, right | 15:00 |
| cyberanger | GO BLACKHAWKS | 15:00 |
| cyberanger | hey cosmicpizza | 15:03 |
| cyberanger | How's France? | 15:03 |
| cyberanger | Bonjour cosmicpizza | 15:05 |
| cyberanger | Comment la France? | 15:06 |
| cosmicpizza | hi there howdy ? | 15:06 |
| cosmicpizza | france is getting a little on my nerve | 15:07 |
| cosmicpizza | cause sarkozy | 15:07 |
| cosmicpizza | and all its politicians | 15:08 |
| cosmicpizza | but i' m not too bad | 15:08 |
| wrst | whoa cosmicpizza are you in france? | 15:08 |
| * wrst misses lots of stuff | 15:08 | |
| cosmicpizza | yes | 15:08 |
| wrst | permanent? | 15:08 |
| cosmicpizza | yes too | 15:08 |
| cosmicpizza | i' m a french guy | 15:09 |
| cyberanger | I was about to say, my french is old, unused for many years, and Quebec, not France | 15:09 |
| cyberanger | about 5pm there, guess it's the end of your workday at least | 15:09 |
| wrst | oh cool cosmicpizza, dare I ask how you found the tennessee loco team? :) | 15:09 |
| cosmicpizza | my parents are going to quebec to their rest days | 15:09 |
| cyberanger | politics, bad everywhere | 15:10 |
| cosmicpizza | but they're going to quebec only for 2 weeks | 15:10 |
| cyberanger | ah, vacation, right | 15:10 |
| cyberanger | Montreal, or elsewhere? | 15:10 |
| cosmicpizza | i found the tenesse loco team like every locos team in united states | 15:10 |
| cosmicpizza | on freenode | 15:10 |
| wrst | ha ha cosmicpizza glad your here :) | 15:11 |
| cosmicpizza | yeah montreal | 15:11 |
| cyberanger | nice city I hear, never been myself | 15:11 |
| cosmicpizza | i' d like to have a road trip in united states when i' ll the fund for doing that | 15:12 |
| cosmicpizza | i' ll have | 15:12 |
| cyberanger | cosmicpizza: it's a big country, canada too | 15:12 |
| cosmicpizza | are you from nashville ? | 15:12 |
| cosmicpizza | i' ll do this trip maybe in 3 or 4 months | 15:13 |
| cosmicpizza | maybe more | 15:13 |
| cosmicpizza | it depands of my money | 15:13 |
| cyberanger | you'll have much to see, and as average_guy & I were saying yesterday & today, it can be very different 1000km away | 15:15 |
| cosmicpizza | that' s what i like | 15:15 |
| cyberanger | I'm from cleveland, tn, 50 km north of chattanooga | 15:16 |
| cosmicpizza | all right | 15:16 |
| cosmicpizza | i' m near paris | 15:16 |
| cosmicpizza | in suburb | 15:16 |
| cyberanger | um, that would be 210km from nashville, I think | 15:16 |
| cosmicpizza | south suburb exactly | 15:16 |
| cosmicpizza | ok | 15:16 |
| cosmicpizza | nashville is the home of country music | 15:17 |
| cyberanger | my metric is better than my french, at least | 15:17 |
| cosmicpizza | i think | 15:17 |
| cosmicpizza | i' m living at 26 miles of paris | 15:18 |
| average_guy | cosmicpizza: people rockin a lot of country music ova there? | 15:18 |
| cosmicpizza | ova there my home or your home average guy ? | 15:19 |
| average_guy | in France? | 15:19 |
| cosmicpizza | no | 15:19 |
| average_guy | I didn't think so.. | 15:19 |
| cosmicpizza | it' s reserving of some crazy people | 15:20 |
| average_guy | I can't stand it myself | 15:20 |
| cosmicpizza | lol | 15:20 |
| cosmicpizza | i' m using ubuntu since the breezy one | 15:21 |
| cosmicpizza | and it work | 15:21 |
| cosmicpizza | it works | 15:21 |
| average_guy | It linux popular in europe? | 15:21 |
| cosmicpizza | but today i' m using a laptop on windows seven | 15:22 |
| cosmicpizza | linux is very popular for server | 15:22 |
| cyberanger | cosmicpizza: I'd like to see Lyon | 15:22 |
| cosmicpizza | in france | 15:22 |
| average_guy | I had a Russian friend tell me it is far more popular in europe | 15:22 |
| cosmicpizza | my brother live in lyon | 15:23 |
| cosmicpizza | that' s a great town | 15:23 |
| cosmicpizza | ubuntu is more and more popular in france | 15:25 |
| cyberanger | average_guy: in russia even more than the rest, due to some microsoft-russia issues & russia's lack of IP & Copyright laws | 15:25 |
| cyberanger | but I know OpenSUSE is huge in Germany | 15:25 |
| cosmicpizza | you can see it at this adress http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/ | 15:25 |
| cyberanger | cosmicpizza: yeah, that's what I've heard, alot of history too | 15:26 |
| cosmicpizza | openbsd is popular for server too in france | 15:26 |
| average_guy | yeah, cyberanger I hear stuff like that but I like to hear first-hand from people. Reading, you'd think Ubuntu is popular in the US, but still very few ppl run it | 15:27 |
| cyberanger | cosmicpizza: for servers it's the same here, maybe a slightly bigger number of windows servers, but majority is linux | 15:28 |
| cyberanger | average_guy: hence why I kept to what I know, sweden germany & russia | 15:29 |
| cyberanger | average_guy: I'm the same way in that | 15:29 |
| wrst | hello ubuntulo1_ | 17:51 |
| wrst | ugh | 17:51 |
| wrst | hello Unit193 | 17:51 |
| Unit193 | Howdy wrst! Didn't you do that same thing? | 18:02 |
| wrst | yesterday... yes :) | 18:03 |
| Unit193 | wrst: Day going well? | 19:05 |
| wrst | yes sir Unit193, you? | 19:06 |
| Unit193 | I REALLY need to move rooms... | 19:07 |
| Unit193 | I'm just wondering, do you actually use any *ubuntu? :D | 19:09 |
| wrst | Unit193: yes use ubuntu server, and have my parents on ubuntu 10.10 and a few other folks | 19:54 |
| wrst | and Unit193 I also have 11.04 on my deskopt, linuxming on my laptop at the moment | 19:55 |
| wrst | hmm desktop and linux mint | 19:55 |
| Unit193 | wrst: Ok, cool. I don't care really one way or another, I just knew you liked Arch (As another Ubuntu person I know does) I don't have the server or mint and I haven't gotten as many people to switch :P | 19:58 |
| wrst | ha ha Unit193 I wouldn't be such an arch desktop user if unity wasn't so bad | 19:58 |
| average_guy | wrst Arch eh? I've had my eye on that lately. I'm a little chicken tho. How difficult is it to set up? | 20:00 |
| Unit193 | Aye, I know someone in person that didn't like it when he upgraded, I told him to look at K/X XD | 20:00 |
| wrst | average_guy: not bad as long as you read the documentation | 20:00 |
| average_guy | I see | 20:01 |
| wrst | Unit193: gnome 3 is great kubuntu is substandard in my book and i've just never really gotten into xfce | 20:01 |
| wrst | now Unit193 i think KDE is good just kubuntu not so much | 20:01 |
| Unit193 | Eh, I kinda like it, but it's not for me, however, I do like my Xubuntu this (and next) round. I do know that it's not for everyone | 20:02 |
| wrst | kubuntu just doesn't or never has worked well for me | 20:04 |
| wrst | distros with vanilla kde however work nicely for me | 20:04 |
| cyberanger | Unit193: that screenshot did prove it | 21:26 |
| cyberanger | telnet-irc | 21:26 |
| Unit193 | cyberanger: Haha! Not 'til then? | 21:27 |
| cyberanger | Unit193: that screenshot proved beyond a reasonable doubt | 21:30 |
| cyberanger | (and I try to aim for paranoid reason ;-)) | 21:30 |
| cyberanger | Unit193: I didn't pull the screenshot immaditely | 21:31 |
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