[00:29] <bjsnider> antihero, is nvidia-current actually installed?
[00:55] <TheBuntu> on 11.10 is there something wrong with nvidia.... did upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 ... would not boot.... deleted xorg.conf and boot
[00:57] <BUGabundo> TheBuntu: broken lightdm
[00:58] <TheBuntu> so then does that mean that even nvidia from nvidia web site wont work
[00:59] <BUGabundo> yep
[00:59] <BUGabundo> DON'T use the blob from their site
[00:59] <BUGabundo> for years that's been breaking X
[01:00] <nit-wit> TheBuntu, the drivers are not caried on a distro upgrade
[01:01] <TheBuntu> so no nvidia then at all
[01:01] <nit-wit> TheBuntu, reinstall them
[01:01] <nit-wit> TheBuntu, not carried on your computer.
[01:01] <TheBuntu> ok
[01:01] <bjsnider> sudo jockey-text -e xorg:nvidia-current
[01:02] <TheBuntu> ok... i know jokey-kde is broke
[01:04] <bjsnider> after it says it's done do dkms status and post the results
[01:04] <TheBuntu> sudo jockey-text -e xorg:nvidia-current.....Additional Drivers...Searching for available drivers.....Unknown driver: xorg:nvidia-current....Use --list to see available drivers.
[01:05] <bjsnider> make it nvidia_current
[01:05] <TheBuntu> Unknown driver: xorg:nvidia_current
[01:06] <bjsnider> what does --list say?
[01:06] <TheBuntu> --list: command not found
[01:06] <bjsnider> ok, jockey-text --list
[01:06] <bjsnider> try to keep up with the conversation
[01:08] <TheBuntu> kmod:nvidia_current - NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library (Proprietary, Disabled, Not in use) xorg:nouveau - Experimental 3D support for NVIDIA cards (Free, Disabled, Not in use)
[01:08] <bjsnider> ok, -e kmod:nvidia_current
[01:12] <BUGabundo> xorg:nvidia_173 - NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (Proprietary, Disabled, Not in use)
[01:12] <BUGabundo> xorg:nvidia_current - NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (Proprietary, Disabled, Not in use)
[01:12] <BUGabundo> xorg:nouveau - Experimental 3D support for NVIDIA cards (Free, Disabled, Not in use)
[01:12] <TheBuntu> dkms status......nvidia-current, 275.09.07, 3.0.0-7-generic, x86_64: installed
[01:12] <BUGabundo> so I'm using nothing ? LOL
[01:12] <bjsnider> TheBuntu, now, check for xorg.conf
[01:13] <bjsnider> and make sure its contents are correct
[01:13] <TheBuntu> make sure in says nvidia and not nv
[01:13] <bjsnider> as long as it says nvidia you're fine
[01:14] <bjsnider> now you can reboot and test it
[01:14] <bjsnider> BUGabundo, i don't understand why yours says xorg:nvidia_current but his says kmod:nvidia_current
[01:15] <BUGabundo> beats me
[01:15] <BUGabundo> if you don't know, we are screewed
[01:15] <bjsnider> not necessarily, i mean i don't do any jockey work, that's pitti
[01:16] <TheBuntu> so this isent going to matter...   lightdm   sence its not install when BUGabundo said it was broke
[01:16] <bjsnider> BUGabundo, you must have not used jockey to install your graphics driver, that's why it says they're not in use
[01:17] <BUGabundo> bjsnider: you were the one to recommend manual deletion of it, last week :P
[01:17] <TheBuntu> i hope this works
[01:17] <BUGabundo> thebuntu I've come out of worse :P
[02:11] <sianhulo> yay, sigo vivo :D, al parecer el problema era unty, shell me esta yendo mas rapido
[02:19] <BUGabundo> nite folks! I'm up in 5h! this is gonna hurt
[08:22] <i5noc> ok
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[08:28] <i5noc> still stalking u acid
[08:28] <i5noc> blame xchat
[08:46] <xapel> Is there a way to sync gmail contacts with thunderbird? If not, will there be one by the time Oneiric is released?
[12:26] <dr_willis> Having an odd quirk where occasionally i resize a window and it becomes totally white. I cant 'quite' get it to repeat all the time.
[12:27] <BluesKaj> Hey Folks
[12:27] <dr_willis> it does seem to affect all kinds of windows, browser, bash shells, terminator, and gnome-terminal
[12:28] <dr_willis> howdy BluesKaj
[12:29] <dr_willis> even the window titlebar becomes solid white. thats pointing to me thinking its a compiz issue. Poor compiz always getting th blame.
[12:29] <BluesKaj> hey dr_willis ..my attempts to solve the nvidia/X prob , proved to be hopeless ...back to natty ....again
[12:30] <dr_willis> use the console for a few days/weeks :)
[12:31] <dr_willis> X was broke for me about 3 days last week.  the lightdm only recently started working.
[12:31] <dr_willis> well off to check on the wife.
[12:32] <xteejx> Hi all
[12:33] <xteejx> I've just upgraded to Oneiric, but xdiagnose won't install, but ubuntu-desktop depends on it.....any suggestions?
[13:24] <dr_willis> Hmm. Be nice if there was more feedback on the copy dialog box. The things seem to get lost under everything. Little Icon on the Home/Folder button would be nice. Or its own item in the panel showing progress..
[15:05] <nikitis> Is there an application or script that can be used to auto set your nameserver?  Like what is used in the live CD's to detect that info?
[15:42] <Deithrian> Why 11.10 is in such a poor state? :/  was unable to use PPPOE  to connect, also installed Nvidia drivers and nvidia-settings says i'm not using them, but the driver is active in the "additional hardware drivers" thing
[15:43] <Pici> Its an alpha?
[15:43] <Deithrian> first Alpha of ubuntu that doesn't have working pppoe and nvidia drivers
[15:44] <bjsnider> so it's an alpha, but you want it to be stable
[15:44] <bjsnider> just wait awhile
[15:45] <Deithrian> compared to other alphas i tested this one is a disaster :) all i'm saying
[15:45] <Pici> There was also an accidental debian sync the other day that destabilized things.
[15:46] <Deithrian> is there a way to make the "active" nvidia drivers to work?
[15:46] <Deithrian> also i had to use sudo pppoeconf to connect, will that be auto fixed with updates?
[15:47] <Pici> Deithrian: Have you checked for or logged any bugs for these issues?
[15:47] <ikonia> a "poor" state
[15:47] <ikonia> it's a development version
[15:47] <ikonia> why are you expecting it to be stable
[15:48] <Deithrian> :| at least the network manager could have worked
[15:48] <ikonia> why ?
[15:48] <ikonia> it's development/testing
[15:48] <ikonia> testing a package doesn't mean it has to or is expected to work
[15:48] <Deithrian> i don't understand why something that works gets broken?! Are there new innovations in network protocols or anything
[15:48] <ikonia> Deithrian: network protocols don't define configuation software
[15:49] <ikonia> Deithrian: smart answers make you look foolish, I'd hold back off them
[15:49] <Deithrian> ok o-o What's new in the 11.10 network manager?
[15:49] <ikonia> no idea, not looked, however libraries change, the version of gnome has changed, etc
[15:49] <Pici> I don't know off the top of my head, but you could look at the changelogs.
[15:49] <ikonia> there could be a patch thats being tested - so it was released and doesn't work, cool, that test failed, revert it
[15:50] <Deithrian> i doubt that there's a revolutionary new way of connecting with pppoe i really do
[15:50] <ikonia> it doesn't have to be the method of connection
[15:50] <rww> Considering that you're complaining about PPPoE and nvidia, I assume your computer starts. This means that oneiric is more stable for you than several previous versions' alphas have been for me.
[15:50] <ikonia> the api could have changed with new libraries
[15:50] <ikonia> there could be a test package that's meant to fail to see how and why it fails
[15:51] <Pici> Hopefully not that.
[15:51] <ikonia> again expect it to work, is your problem
[15:51] <Deithrian> ok i will take my pills and be off then :)
[15:57] <charlie-tca> Yay! Xubuntu has a live session working today
[16:03] <ikonia> I need to look at the xubuntu development map as it appears to have more significance these days
[17:01] <dr3mro> hey guys I am happy ubuntu 11.04 user .. using unity and i managed to fix many issues i had at the release of natty most of them now fixed and i look forward to use oneiric  and can any one here uses oneric answer somw questions about it ? compared to natty 1) boot time 2) memory usage 3) speed 4)stable ??
[17:06] <MrNthDegree> damn
[17:06] <MrNthDegree> was about to answer that XD
[17:07] <genii-around> Kids these days. No patience and all cross-postings.
[17:08] <MrNthDegree> Does anyone know if I can have a 64-bit kernel with 32-bit userland on Oneiric Ocelot?
[17:08] <MrNthDegree> Since it appears to be adding APT multiarch support
[17:09] <nikitis> Question.  Say I wrote an installer for Ubuntu to install on a Playstation 3.  Who do I talk to, to get it implemented?
[17:09] <MrNthDegree> would rock if I could have that because 64-bit userland is a RAM hog
[17:10] <yofel> yay, and I have nouveau loading at boot and blocking nvidia *again* -.-
[17:12] <MrNthDegree> yofel, nouveau isn't actually the blocker, KMS is
[17:12] <MrNthDegree> yofel, sudo vi /etc/default/grub
[17:12] <yofel> well, doesn't make much of a difference in practice, but right
[17:13] <MrNthDegree> yofel, then add nomodeset to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[17:13] <yofel> WTH, now if I want to load the nvidia module I get "Invalid module format" o.O
[17:13] <MrNthDegree> and then open up /boot/grub/grub.cfg and add it in the existing entries
[17:13] <nikitis> Anyone?
[17:13] <yofel> MrNthDegree: running update-grub would be easier :P
[17:13] <MrNthDegree> nikitis, talk to developers in #ubuntu-devel
[17:13] <nikitis> Gotcha, thanks
[17:18] <bjsnider> MrNthDegree, i believe you end up with both 64 and 32 simultaneously
[17:18] <yofel> k, reinstalling nvidia helped
[17:21] <MrNthDegree> bjsnider, so one can't just opt to have 32-bit userland on its own? (Fedora can and has been able to do this since they introduced multiarch)
[20:18] <BUGabundo> evening
[20:21] <charlie-tca> Hello, BUGabundo
[20:56] <jo-erlend_> is Nautilus supposed to look the way it does? It seems kinda... Awkward to me, aesthetically.
[20:57] <BUGabundo> last time I looked at it
[20:57] <BUGabundo> it was ok
[20:57] <BUGabundo> it got its toolbar removed
[20:57] <jo-erlend_> I'm talking about the left panel. It seems... Strange. Perhaps I'm just used to it being different.
[20:57] <jo-erlend_> oh.
[20:59] <jo-erlend_> yes, except for the left panel, it seems very nice. I suppose it might be because of the big contrast with the dark ... toolbar. Has it been removed completely now?