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bjsniderantihero, is nvidia-current actually installed?00:29
TheBuntuon 11.10 is there something wrong with nvidia.... did upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 ... would not boot.... deleted xorg.conf and boot00:55
BUGabundoTheBuntu: broken lightdm00:57
TheBuntuso then does that mean that even nvidia from nvidia web site wont work00:58
BUGabundoyep00:59
BUGabundoDON'T use the blob from their site00:59
BUGabundofor years that's been breaking X00:59
nit-witTheBuntu, the drivers are not caried on a distro upgrade01:00
TheBuntuso no nvidia then at all01:01
nit-witTheBuntu, reinstall them01:01
nit-witTheBuntu, not carried on your computer.01:01
TheBuntuok01:01
bjsnidersudo jockey-text -e xorg:nvidia-current01:01
TheBuntuok... i know jokey-kde is broke01:02
bjsniderafter it says it's done do dkms status and post the results01:04
TheBuntusudo jockey-text -e xorg:nvidia-current.....Additional Drivers...Searching for available drivers.....Unknown driver: xorg:nvidia-current....Use --list to see available drivers.01:04
bjsnidermake it nvidia_current01:05
TheBuntuUnknown driver: xorg:nvidia_current01:05
bjsniderwhat does --list say?01:06
TheBuntu--list: command not found01:06
bjsniderok, jockey-text --list01:06
bjsnidertry to keep up with the conversation01:06
TheBuntukmod:nvidia_current - NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library (Proprietary, Disabled, Not in use) xorg:nouveau - Experimental 3D support for NVIDIA cards (Free, Disabled, Not in use)01:08
bjsniderok, -e kmod:nvidia_current01:08
BUGabundoxorg:nvidia_173 - NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (Proprietary, Disabled, Not in use)01:12
BUGabundoxorg:nvidia_current - NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (Proprietary, Disabled, Not in use)01:12
BUGabundoxorg:nouveau - Experimental 3D support for NVIDIA cards (Free, Disabled, Not in use)01:12
TheBuntudkms status......nvidia-current, 275.09.07, 3.0.0-7-generic, x86_64: installed01:12
BUGabundoso I'm using nothing ? LOL01:12
bjsniderTheBuntu, now, check for xorg.conf01:12
bjsniderand make sure its contents are correct01:13
TheBuntumake sure in says nvidia and not nv01:13
bjsnideras long as it says nvidia you're fine01:13
bjsnidernow you can reboot and test it01:14
bjsniderBUGabundo, i don't understand why yours says xorg:nvidia_current but his says kmod:nvidia_current01:14
BUGabundobeats me01:15
BUGabundoif you don't know, we are screewed01:15
bjsnidernot necessarily, i mean i don't do any jockey work, that's pitti01:15
TheBuntuso this isent going to matter...   lightdm   sence its not install when BUGabundo said it was broke01:16
bjsniderBUGabundo, you must have not used jockey to install your graphics driver, that's why it says they're not in use01:16
BUGabundobjsnider: you were the one to recommend manual deletion of it, last week :P01:17
TheBuntui hope this works01:17
BUGabundothebuntu I've come out of worse :P01:17
sianhuloyay, sigo vivo :D, al parecer el problema era unty, shell me esta yendo mas rapido02:11
BUGabundonite folks! I'm up in 5h! this is gonna hurt02:19
i5nocok08:22
i5nocso for those of yall that actually fix stuff...08:23
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i5nocstill stalking u acid08:28
i5nocblame xchat08:28
xapelIs there a way to sync gmail contacts with thunderbird? If not, will there be one by the time Oneiric is released?08:46
dr_willisHaving an odd quirk where occasionally i resize a window and it becomes totally white. I cant 'quite' get it to repeat all the time.12:26
BluesKajHey Folks12:27
dr_willisit does seem to affect all kinds of windows, browser, bash shells, terminator, and gnome-terminal12:27
dr_willishowdy BluesKaj12:28
dr_williseven the window titlebar becomes solid white. thats pointing to me thinking its a compiz issue. Poor compiz always getting th blame.12:29
BluesKajhey dr_willis ..my attempts to solve the nvidia/X prob , proved to be hopeless ...back to natty ....again12:29
dr_willisuse the console for a few days/weeks :)12:30
dr_willisX was broke for me about 3 days last week.  the lightdm only recently started working.12:31
dr_williswell off to check on the wife.12:31
xteejxHi all12:32
xteejxI've just upgraded to Oneiric, but xdiagnose won't install, but ubuntu-desktop depends on it.....any suggestions?12:33
dr_willisHmm. Be nice if there was more feedback on the copy dialog box. The things seem to get lost under everything. Little Icon on the Home/Folder button would be nice. Or its own item in the panel showing progress..13:24
nikitisIs there an application or script that can be used to auto set your nameserver?  Like what is used in the live CD's to detect that info?15:05
DeithrianWhy 11.10 is in such a poor state? :/  was unable to use PPPOE  to connect, also installed Nvidia drivers and nvidia-settings says i'm not using them, but the driver is active in the "additional hardware drivers" thing15:42
PiciIts an alpha?15:43
Deithrianfirst Alpha of ubuntu that doesn't have working pppoe and nvidia drivers15:43
bjsniderso it's an alpha, but you want it to be stable15:44
bjsniderjust wait awhile15:44
Deithriancompared to other alphas i tested this one is a disaster :) all i'm saying15:45
PiciThere was also an accidental debian sync the other day that destabilized things.15:45
Deithrianis there a way to make the "active" nvidia drivers to work?15:46
Deithrianalso i had to use sudo pppoeconf to connect, will that be auto fixed with updates?15:46
PiciDeithrian: Have you checked for or logged any bugs for these issues?15:47
ikoniaa "poor" state15:47
ikoniait's a development version15:47
ikoniawhy are you expecting it to be stable15:47
Deithrian:| at least the network manager could have worked15:48
ikoniawhy ?15:48
ikoniait's development/testing15:48
ikoniatesting a package doesn't mean it has to or is expected to work15:48
Deithriani don't understand why something that works gets broken?! Are there new innovations in network protocols or anything15:48
ikoniaDeithrian: network protocols don't define configuation software15:48
ikoniaDeithrian: smart answers make you look foolish, I'd hold back off them15:49
Deithrianok o-o What's new in the 11.10 network manager?15:49
ikoniano idea, not looked, however libraries change, the version of gnome has changed, etc15:49
PiciI don't know off the top of my head, but you could look at the changelogs.15:49
ikoniathere could be a patch thats being tested - so it was released and doesn't work, cool, that test failed, revert it15:49
Deithriani doubt that there's a revolutionary new way of connecting with pppoe i really do15:50
ikoniait doesn't have to be the method of connection15:50
rwwConsidering that you're complaining about PPPoE and nvidia, I assume your computer starts. This means that oneiric is more stable for you than several previous versions' alphas have been for me.15:50
ikoniathe api could have changed with new libraries15:50
ikoniathere could be a test package that's meant to fail to see how and why it fails15:50
PiciHopefully not that.15:51
ikoniaagain expect it to work, is your problem15:51
Deithrianok i will take my pills and be off then :)15:51
charlie-tcaYay! Xubuntu has a live session working today15:57
ikoniaI need to look at the xubuntu development map as it appears to have more significance these days16:03
dr3mrohey guys I am happy ubuntu 11.04 user .. using unity and i managed to fix many issues i had at the release of natty most of them now fixed and i look forward to use oneiric  and can any one here uses oneric answer somw questions about it ? compared to natty 1) boot time 2) memory usage 3) speed 4)stable ??17:01
MrNthDegreedamn17:06
MrNthDegreewas about to answer that XD17:06
genii-aroundKids these days. No patience and all cross-postings.17:07
MrNthDegreeDoes anyone know if I can have a 64-bit kernel with 32-bit userland on Oneiric Ocelot?17:08
MrNthDegreeSince it appears to be adding APT multiarch support17:08
nikitisQuestion.  Say I wrote an installer for Ubuntu to install on a Playstation 3.  Who do I talk to, to get it implemented?17:09
MrNthDegreewould rock if I could have that because 64-bit userland is a RAM hog17:09
yofelyay, and I have nouveau loading at boot and blocking nvidia *again* -.-17:10
MrNthDegreeyofel, nouveau isn't actually the blocker, KMS is17:12
MrNthDegreeyofel, sudo vi /etc/default/grub17:12
yofelwell, doesn't make much of a difference in practice, but right17:12
MrNthDegreeyofel, then add nomodeset to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT17:13
yofelWTH, now if I want to load the nvidia module I get "Invalid module format" o.O17:13
MrNthDegreeand then open up /boot/grub/grub.cfg and add it in the existing entries17:13
nikitisAnyone?17:13
yofelMrNthDegree: running update-grub would be easier :P17:13
MrNthDegreenikitis, talk to developers in #ubuntu-devel17:13
nikitisGotcha, thanks17:13
bjsniderMrNthDegree, i believe you end up with both 64 and 32 simultaneously17:18
yofelk, reinstalling nvidia helped17:18
MrNthDegreebjsnider, so one can't just opt to have 32-bit userland on its own? (Fedora can and has been able to do this since they introduced multiarch)17:21
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BUGabundoevening20:18
charlie-tcaHello, BUGabundo20:21
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jo-erlend_is Nautilus supposed to look the way it does? It seems kinda... Awkward to me, aesthetically.20:56
BUGabundolast time I looked at it20:57
BUGabundoit was ok20:57
BUGabundoit got its toolbar removed20:57
jo-erlend_I'm talking about the left panel. It seems... Strange. Perhaps I'm just used to it being different.20:57
jo-erlend_oh.20:57
jo-erlend_yes, except for the left panel, it seems very nice. I suppose it might be because of the big contrast with the dark ... toolbar. Has it been removed completely now?20:59
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