[01:07] <jcastro> jono: ping
[01:07] <jcastro> did you happen to go to Clint's ensemble talk?
[03:33] <jcastro> doctormo: YEARLING
[03:39] <czajkowski> stupid not being able to sleep grrrr
[03:39] <jcastro> word
[03:42] <czajkowski> jcastro: ello
[03:42] <czajkowski> it's 4:42am here
[03:42] <jcastro> hi2u!
[03:42] <czajkowski> and i have to get up at 6am :/
[03:50] <doctormo> jcastro: Hey!
[03:51] <doctormo> Yearling?
[03:51] <jcastro> doctormo: you got a silver badge on AU today
[03:51] <jcastro> for being around for a year
[03:51] <jcastro> congrats, you're a pillar, etc. etc.
[03:51] <doctormo> Has it really been a year, wow
[03:52] <doctormo> I'm a a pillow you mean, soft, and comfortable. ;-)
[03:52] <czajkowski> jcastro: would it be ok to upload my talk from community week on stuff to AU ?
[03:52] <czajkowski> jcastro: that year flew
[03:53] <czajkowski> i remember when  we were trying to get people to sign up and the whinging for a another place to add content, but it's worked out soo well.
[03:53] <jcastro> czajkowski: for sure
[03:53] <jcastro> where's the raw data?
[03:53] <jcastro> we'd need to format it to be question and answer
[03:53] <czajkowski> jcastro: i have it in a tomboy notes
[03:53] <jcastro> doctormo: we couldn't have done it without you
[03:54] <jcastro> doctormo: btw, your last blog post, could have totally been Q+A
[03:54] <jcastro> don't worry though, we're working on a widget so you can have the data be on AU but embed it in a blog post.
[03:54] <doctormo> jcastro: Yeah, you said :-P I fumbled the ask.
[03:54] <jcastro> czajkowski: is it an IRC log? like question + answer, over and over?
[03:54] <jcastro> doctormo: we can move it over now
[03:55] <jcastro> I can do it for you if you'd like
[03:55] <jcastro> only need your permission
[03:55] <doctormo> Thanks for the +1 though, much appreciated. Just make a new question on AU right?
[03:55] <czajkowski> jcastro: no  all me and i link to the logs where tey are 2/3 questions
[03:55] <jcastro> doctormo: yeah, just pretend you're on jeopardy
[03:55] <jcastro> czajkowski: pastebin it and I'll help you on it
[03:56] <czajkowski> jcastro: tis cool i'll do it over the weekend, and work it out thanks
[03:56] <czajkowski> just heading off now
[03:57] <jcastro> czajkowski: or just fwd it to me, I'll do it for you if you want
[03:57] <jcastro> but don't let me delay a trip to the pub!
[03:57] <jcastro> god knows I need one down here!
[03:57] <doctormo> http://askubuntu.com/questions/54950/what-ubuntu-versions-are-still-supported
[03:58] <czajkowski> jcastro: http://www.lczajkowski.com/2011/07/22/preparing-for-approval-and-re-approval-dos-and-donts/
[03:58] <czajkowski> jcastro: http://www.lczajkowski.com/2011/07/21/an-overview-of-loco-guidance/
[04:00] <jcastro> czajkowski: cool, gimme a day or so
[04:00] <jcastro> doctormo: I reworded it to mean programatically
[04:00] <czajkowski> jcastro: cheers
[04:00] <jcastro> as opposed to "check this wiki page dude"
[04:00] <jcastro> since you wanted to check it from a script right?
[04:01] <doctormo> jcastro: Yes
[04:01] <doctormo> Special bonus question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/54951/if-ive-signed-the-canonical-contributors-agreement-do-i-have-to-sign-the-new-ha
[04:02] <doctormo> Thanks for the reword :-)
[04:04] <jcastro> hmm, I don't know that one
[04:04] <jcastro> you might want to CC bacon and/or amanda on that one
[07:27] <kim0> Morning everyone
[08:26] <dpm> good morning all
[11:07] <duanedesign> morning all
[11:10] <popey> hi duanedesign
[11:14] <Pendulum> hiya duanedesign
[11:18] <nigelb> hey popey
[12:50] <mhall119> morning
[13:49] <cjohnston> mornin
[14:52] <jcastro> popey: you about?
[15:03] <jcastro> Joeb454: around?
[17:50] <popey> jcastro: yo
[17:50] <jcastro> popey: hey so Joeb454 sent me a mail that the old archives are no unindexed
[17:50] <jcastro> but google doesn't seem to have caught up yet
[17:50] <jcastro> so if you're bored and want to try random searches over the next few days and lmk that would be swell
[17:52] <popey> what does that achieve?
[17:53] <jcastro> theoretically it shouldn't return something from like 2007, etc.
[17:53] <AlanBell> archives of what?
[17:54] <popey> how far back are we talking?
[17:54] <popey> AlanBell: crusty ubuntu forums posts from the past
[17:54] <AlanBell> ah, I was thinking repos
[18:00] <AlanBell> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/robots.txt
[18:00] <AlanBell> what makes them think it won't be indexed?
[18:07] <jcastro> AlanBell: right, that's what I wanted to check
[18:09] <AlanBell> normally to unindex stuff from google you set the robots.txt up and when the googlebot next slurps up your content it will remove all the stuff it shouldn't have any more
[18:10] <AlanBell> they may have done it some other way that I don't know of
[18:10]  * jcastro nods
[18:34] <jcastro> omg jono
[18:34] <jcastro> http://youtu.be/jjvy_jzGlAQ
[18:34] <jcastro> open source air DRUMS
[18:34] <jono> checking
[18:37] <jono> that is awesome :-)
[18:37] <jcastro> I was thinking "ok I am making that"
[18:37] <jcastro> but towards the end it looks complicated
[19:27] <jcastro> jono: any word from david nielsen?
[19:31] <jono> jcastro, none yet, I reminded him
[19:32] <jono> grabbing lunch
[19:32] <jono> brb
[19:38] <Joeb454> jcastro: I'm around now
[19:39] <jcastro> hi
[19:39] <jcastro> Joeb454: the ping was before I sent you that mail
[19:39] <Joeb454> hello :) I thought it may have been, but just in case it wasn't, thought I'd better check
[19:41] <paultag> heyya Joeb454
[19:41] <jcastro> Joeb454: so how does the deindexing work? AlanBell was checking out the robots.txt
[19:44] <Joeb454> hey paultag
[19:45] <Joeb454> jcastro: well from what I've read, we simply don't allow people who aren't registered to view the forum, and Google de-indexes it. I'm a little skeptical, but willing to give it a go
[19:45] <Joeb454> but it's been what, a month now, since we made that change, and it's still not had an effect
[19:47] <jcastro> oh wait, you made the change a month ago?
[19:49] <Joeb454> near as, yeah. Think it might be 3 weeks
[19:49] <jcastro> hmm, their bot can't possibly be that slow
[19:50] <Joeb454> that's what I thought
[19:52] <jcastro> is there a way to turn that on for like one subforum or something? And see if it works?
[19:53] <AlanBell> http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=164734
[19:57] <jcastro> that appears to be for like when something is really wrong
[19:58] <jcastro> https://sites.google.com/site/webmasterhelpforum/en/faq--crawling--indexing---ranking#remove-content
[19:58] <jcastro> aha!
[19:59] <jcastro> http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=93710
[19:59] <jcastro> so basically, we add that to any page that is an archive page right?
[20:01] <Joeb454> jcastro: afaik, that's not really feasible
[20:03] <Joeb454> there could be a way to conditionally enter it, but that'd require messing with vbulletin templates, which I know technoviking (and most of the FC) are keen to get away from, because doing that makes upgrades a PITA
[20:03] <jcastro> yeah
[20:03] <jcastro> hmm
[20:03] <jcastro> what about just modifying the site-wide robots.txt?
[20:12] <jcastro> hmm
[20:12] <jcastro> it's totally dumb that vbulletin doesn't have this feature ootb
[20:14] <jcastro> If I'm ever at a bar, and guy comes up to me and is like "Hi, my name is Bob, I work on vbulletin" I'm just going to pour a beer in his lap.
[20:15] <Joeb454> haha, be my guest
[20:16] <Joeb454> jcastro: IS asked us what rule we'd want in the robots.txt (I emailed about it this week), I need to look into it a little more, I don't know whether adding each forum would work. Hopefully I'll have some time over the weekend to take a look
[20:16] <jcastro> I am checking to see if you can do date based things in robots
[20:16] <jcastro> "Anything older than 5 years" or something
[20:28] <jono> mhall119, howdy
[22:48] <mhall119> jono: evening
[22:48] <jono> hey mhall119
[22:48] <jono> hows things?
[22:48] <mhall119> busy
[22:48] <mhall119> how was oscon?
[23:03] <jono> mhall119, it was good, exausting, good to be back
[23:03] <jono> mhall119, cjohnston showed me some of the work on the blogging support in the LTP, looks like it is going well
[23:04] <jono> I am going to see if I can get some EC2 storage funded for some limited testing
[23:16] <mhall119> jono: awesome, I have an ec2 account, so if you can just get approval for me to get reimbursement I'll host it
[23:17] <jono> mhall119,  what do you estimate the costs will be?
[23:17] <mhall119> not much, a micro instance on full time is baout $15/month
[23:17] <mhall119> if we only bring it up for testing before a release, it'll be less than that
[23:20] <jcastro> mhall119: there's a blanket EC2 reimbursement policy somewhere on the wiki
[23:21] <jcastro> My bill is up to a whopping 54 cents, heh
[23:21] <cjohnston> jcastro: thats expensive
[23:21] <jono> lets do this
[23:21] <jono> I am happy to +1 it
[23:21] <jono> lets just keep it for limited testing so it doesn't get crazy
[23:22] <jcastro> make sure you set up an EBS thing if you want persistant storage
[23:22] <jono> mhall119, would you be happy to deploy an instance and let me know when it is up?
[23:24] <mhall119> sure
[23:24] <jono> thanks!
[23:25] <jcastro> ok done!
[23:26]  * jcastro grins at his brand new instance
[23:26] <jcastro> mhall119: what are you setting up?
[23:26] <cjohnston> wow.. jcastro says done, and jono goes bye bye
[23:26] <cjohnston> jcastro: loco directory and summit
[23:27] <jcastro> ensemble formulas for those would be awesome
[23:27] <jcastro> then we'd never have to do it again!
[23:27]  * cjohnston thinks jcastro should get to work on that ;-)
[23:27] <jcastro> well, do you have like a deployment script for it?
[23:27] <mhall119> jcastro: +1 on ensemble
[23:27] <mhall119> jcastro: would you like to help make that happen?
[23:28] <jcastro> I've never done one before and I'm worthless, but I can help!
[23:28] <mhall119> jcastro: the current deployment script is "Hey RT, please update this"
[23:28] <mhall119> is that enough?
[23:28] <jcastro> hah no
[23:28] <jcastro> like, you bzr pull it
[23:28] <jcastro> then what?
[23:28] <jcastro> what's it need, mysql?
[23:28] <cjohnston> ./manage migrate
[23:28] <mhall119> postgres
[23:28] <cjohnston> postgres
[23:28] <jcastro> ok
[23:29] <jcastro> that's it, ./manage migrate?
[23:29] <mhall119> there are some other ./manage commands
[23:29] <mhall119> especially for initial deployment
[23:29] <jcastro> ok, so put those in order in an etherpad or something
[23:29] <jcastro> and I'll get started right now
[23:30] <cjohnston> mhall119: jcastro http://pad.ubuntu.com/BaSLqQuo7d
[23:31] <jcastro> basically, if you can script it to deploy all at once ensemble can just automate it
[23:37] <mhall119> jcastro: the fun part is getting the DB information through ensemble to Django
[23:37] <jcastro> yeah, one step at a time, heh
[23:37] <mhall119> though I suppose since we'll be running the db locally, we don't have to do that
[23:40] <jcastro> do you guys have the deps for summit handy?
[23:41] <cjohnston> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~summit-hackers/summit/trunk/view/head:/requirements.txt
[23:41] <mhall119> jcastro: I put the apt-get install line in the pad
[23:42] <mhall119> these will need to be Lucid servers
[23:42] <jcastro> ta
[23:42] <jcastro> and we need apache too I take it?
[23:43] <cjohnston> mhall119: is feedparser on cranberry already?
[23:43] <mhall119> to make a proper staging env, yes
[23:43] <mhall119> cjohnston: most likely not
[23:44] <cjohnston> I guess I'll go on and file an RT on that mhall119 so that it will hopefully be ready when we are
[23:46] <mhall119> jcastro: what is a2enmod?
[23:46] <cjohnston> adding a module to apache
[23:46] <jcastro> enables the apache module for whatever
[23:46] <cjohnston> similar to a2ensite
[23:47] <cjohnston> mhall119: what else for loco directory
[23:48] <jcastro> libapache2-mod-python
[23:48] <jcastro> we need that right?
[23:50] <cjohnston> i have no idea
[23:50] <cjohnston> mhall119: ?
[23:51] <jcastro> god google is worthless sometimes
[23:51] <mhall119> jcastro: not sure if it's using mod_python or mod_wsgi
[23:51] <jcastro> all I want to know is what "a2enmod blah" should be for python
[23:51] <mhall119> jcastro: just apt-get install usually works
[23:51] <jcastro> oh ok
[23:51] <mhall119> I'm pretty sure it'll put it into mods-enabled
[23:52] <jcastro> k
[23:52] <jcastro> I'll know when I test it, heh
[23:53] <mhall119> jcastro: do you have access to cranberry?
[23:53] <jcastro> nope
[23:53] <mhall119> ok, loco-directory uses mod_python
[23:53] <mhall119> summit uses mod_wsgi
[23:53] <mhall119> :(
[23:54] <jcastro> libapache2-mod-wsgi-py3
[23:54] <jcastro> got it
[23:54]  * jcastro shakes fist in the general direction of Keybuk
[23:55] <jcastro> ok, ready to try it in a vm
[23:55]  * jcastro testdrives and hits sync
[23:55] <jcastro> https://ensemble.ubuntu.com/docs/write-formula.html
[23:55] <jcastro> I will need help with db-relation-changed
[23:55] <jcastro> start, stop, and install are done
[23:56] <mhall119> jcastro: that looks like it's for python3, which isn't what we want
[23:56] <mhall119> jcastro: libapache2-mod-wsgi
[23:56] <jcastro> ah, lucid, right
[23:57] <jcastro> this is fun!
[23:57] <mhall119> :/
[23:57] <mhall119> jcastro: you gonna come to our global jam?
[23:57] <jcastro> probably
[23:57] <mhall119> \o/
[23:57] <jcastro> I need to see what our car situation is, etc.
[23:58] <mhall119> statik will probably come again too
[23:58] <cjohnston> i need to start calling a few places
[23:59] <cjohnston> jcastro: im headed to the keys in a month