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AfCWhat the ... current upgrade is going to REMOVE gnome-shell ?!?02:15
AfCHooray for not always blindly running `dist-upgrade`!02:16
TheMusoAfC: There is likely a conflict with dependencies somewhere, and gnome-shell needs to be rebuilt/fixed.02:17
AfCTheMuso: yeah02:19
AfCTheMuso: [but thanks for confirming my suspicion!]02:19
TheMusoI don't know for sure, I just guessed based on similar situations in the past.02:21
AfCTheMuso: looks to be that. We'll see in a day or two. It shows up quite obviously because we don't have any Unity, Compiz, CanonicalOne, etc packages installed on our systems, so when something like this happens I get a *long* list of things to freshly install :)02:23
TheMusoRight.02:24
RAOFThank god it's almost the weekend.  I've just spent far to long staring, trying to work out why the shell around ‘patch -p1 < debian/sna_module_rename-stamp’ isn't working.04:37
lifelessRAOF: LOL04:38
RAOFYeah.  Turns out the patch-stamp isn't actually the same thing as the patch.04:39
RAOFHah.  That worked.  I can tell by the rendering corruption!04:59
didrocksgood morning05:12
RAOFHey didrocks.05:16
didrockshey RAOF, how are you?05:26
RAOFOk.  A bit tired.  Yay weekend!05:26
RAOFYourself?05:26
TheMusoHey didrocks.05:28
TheMusoRAOF: Yeah feeling a little like that myself.05:28
didrocksgood evening TheMuso :)05:28
TheMusoStill afternoon actually, mid to late afternoon one would call it I think.05:29
didrocksRAOF: I'm fine, thanks, quite happy to see that in 30 minutes, I almost adapted OneConf to the new s-c in gtk205:29
didrocksstill a bit raw, but I'm optimistic if we don't adopt the new design this cycle to put it by default :)05:29
RAOFCool!  I'd love me a bit of oneconf05:29
didrocksTheMuso: heh, still some hours to go then!05:29
didrocksdjango server part is ready :)05:29
TheMusoActually not that long, about an hour, give or take for me at least.05:30
didrocksTheMuso: I noted that unity-panel-service is now crashing with a11y enabled btw05:33
TheMusodidrocks: Which unity?05:33
didrocksand now both unity/unity-2d are using it05:33
didrocksI reported it to API, he'll look at it05:34
TheMusoOk.05:34
didrocks(seems to be there for 2 weeks)05:34
TheMusoSo are both unity environments sharing one panel now? Interesting.05:34
didrocksTheMuso: not really sharing the panel, sharing the service containing the indicator proxy :)05:34
TheMusoAh ok.05:35
didrocks(and so piloting what should be drawn)05:35
TheMusoRight.05:35
didrocksTheMuso: also, do you know if there is soon a dbus api to know if accessibility should be enabled?05:35
didrocksIIRC, that's the latest thing in a11y missing for qt, as it's in dconf right now05:35
TheMusoDbus api? No, only the gsettings stuff atm.05:35
TheMusoUnless I am getting confused with somethign else.05:35
didrocksno, I think you're right05:35
TheMusoOh QT. No, don't know, other than QT_ACCESSIBILITY=105:36
didrocksTheMuso: yeah, but they were waiting for some more generic stuff like a dbus call :)05:36
TheMusoRight.05:36
didrocksas they won't access gsettings I guess05:36
TheMusoCorrect.05:36
didrocksTheMuso: can you ensure for oneiric that you export the variable in the session?05:36
TheMusoExport it where?05:36
didrocks(I guess some work on casper and g-c-c, isn't it?)05:36
didrocksto the session05:36
jbichaI can't even get the unity-2d launcher or panel to start now: http://fpaste.org/WJum/05:36
TheMusodidrocks: Well it should probably be done with one of the pieces of the at-spi stack, such that if a user enables it through gcc, then QT_ACCESSIBILITY=1 will get set on restart. Doing it in the a11y profiles alone doesn't make sense.05:37
didrocksjbicha: try to ldd the binary, seems you have a missing one05:37
TheMusoIt would have to be a shell script, however that does increase startup overhead.05:38
didrocksTheMuso: I don't know which stack should set it, I think you have a better idea than I there, but can you ensure you will track it for oneiric?05:38
didrocksdo you need a workitem?05:38
TheMusodidrocks: Sure, I don't think I need a work item, just got to think of the best way to do it technically.05:39
TheMusoIts something I was aware of a while back, but haven't looked at, since my priorities have been slightly elsewhere recently.05:39
jbichadidrocks: um, and then what? http://fpaste.org/aHwG/05:39
didrocksTheMuso: sure, I just don't want that we overlook it, would be a shame to have accessibility and not enabling it :-) I'm just adding a workitem to track it. Thanks  :)05:40
didrocksTheMuso: beta1 is fine?05:40
didrocksjbicha: do you have latest dee-qt?05:40
TheMusodidrocks: Yes thats fine thanks.05:40
didrocksjbicha: and libunity-2d-private0?05:41
littlejerryhello05:42
didrockshey littlejerry05:43
littlejerryhello05:44
jbichadidrocks: I didn't have libunity-2d-private005:51
didrocksjbicha: hum, there is maybe a missing dep then, weird05:51
didrockscan you install it and try?05:51
jbichaI installed it and unity-2d works05:52
didrocks\o/05:52
* didrocks looks why the bin didn't take the deps05:52
jbichaI've had some annoying appmenu bug for a while now so I don't use Unity really, gnome-shell is more stable for me05:52
TheMuso+/c05:52
jbichadidrocks: well, the kde-wallpaper transition means I couldn't do a normal dist-upgrade05:53
didrocksjbicha: it's a dep, you should get it. Though, it didn't force for the latest version, indeeded05:55
didrocksjbicha: I'll ensuring forcing with the latest version05:55
didrocks(well, with the version corresponding the one in the source)05:56
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BigWhaleUrgh06:21
BigWhaleMorning06:24
didrockshey BigWhale06:31
BigWhalehey didrocks06:37
chrisccoulsongood morning everyone07:00
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didrockshey chrisccoulson!07:16
BigWhaleputting good in front of the morning, a common mistake07:20
BigWhale:>07:20
chrisccoulsonhi didrocks, how are you?07:22
didrockschrisccoulson: I'm fine, thanks, and you?07:22
chrisccoulsoni'm good thanks07:23
chrisccoulsonhmmm, i just read oneiric-changes - wth is "pornview"?07:23
BigWhalechrisccoulson, no idea, but sounds promising!07:23
BigWhale:>07:23
mvosilly question, but we don't want to have the .pc/ stuff in the bzr  lp:ubuntu branches, do we?07:28
chrisccoulsonmvo - i always wonder the same thing ;)07:29
chrisccoulsoni think the autoimported branches all have them07:29
mvoglade I'm not the only one :)07:29
mvobäää07:30
bullgard4_I would like reporting an error in GNOME 2 under Natty: The screen freezes with some artifacts, but I can recover by toggling to a virtual console. What package should I associate my error report to in Launchpad?07:30
* mvo takes a cup of tea to calm himself and not get into some rage about this07:30
didrocksmvo: the autoimported apply the patch if you are in source 3 format for that package07:46
didrocksand yeah, +1, it's not good :/07:46
mvoprogress++07:48
bschaeferdidrocks: Hey, just a small update on the CJK patch. He only commented on a couple minor things but those are fixed07:48
bschaeferdidrocks: and he hasn't posted anything else to change so I think he likes the new patch so far been a few days07:48
bschaeferdidrocks: sooo hopefully it will be applied soon and everything should just 'work'07:49
BigWhaleIs it the last Friday in July? Happy system administrator appreciation day to everyone! Buy a pizza for your sysadmin, show some love! :)07:49
didrocksbschaefer: that's awesome! do not hesitate to ping me when it will be integrated in debian. Thanks again for this week, you will make a lot of people happy! :-)07:51
bschaeferdidrocks: haha that's good to hear, and I am hoping that will be soon!07:52
* didrocks crosses fingers too :)07:53
bullgard4_I would like reporting an error in GNOME 2 under Natty: The screen freezes with some artifacts, but I can recover by toggling to a virtual console. What package should I associate my error report to in Launchpad?08:08
seb128hey08:16
seb128hum08:21
seb128somebody has been visually reformating the etherpad08:21
mvodidrocks: I am just looking at indictator-cpufreq and its in gtk2, for how long will this work?08:22
seb128mvo, is it a system indicator or using libappindicator?08:23
mvoseb128: its a python app using python-appindicator08:24
mvoseb128: is this out-of-process?08:24
seb128mvo, that will keep working08:24
seb128yes08:24
mvogreat08:24
seb128hey mvo btw, how are you?08:24
seb128mvo, piloting today? ;-)08:25
seb128mvo, there is an indicator-bug on the sponsoring queue as well, oier was very eager to get review if you have time08:25
mvoyeah, busy pioloting08:25
mvo(and mistyping stuff)08:25
didrockssalut seb12808:25
seb128lut didrocks08:25
seb128mvo, do you know how close the upstart update brings us from working user session handling? ;-)08:29
jbichaseb128: I had no idea the + on the versions page was a button until I read your inteview in the Dev Update08:29
seb128jbicha, hey, yeah it's not very obvious...08:29
seb128we should maybe have 2 urls rather08:29
mvoseb128: I don't sorry, I will try to find time later on to figure it out08:29
mvowhat feature is this, the "+" ?08:30
seb128mvo, no worry I was just curious08:30
jbichait needs more blinking text08:30
seb128mvo, display extra packages08:30
seb128mvo, by default it limits to the default installation08:30
seb128mvo, http://people.canonical.com/~platform/desktop/versions.html08:30
seb128mvo, btw we have some desktop sponsoring in the queue if you want to take some easy ones ;-)08:31
mvoeasy++08:31
mvoaha, nice08:31
mvooh, yeah the "+" is not obvious as its not blue08:31
mvoa cool feature though08:32
mvo(blue to indicate its a link)08:32
didrocksahah, I guess seb128 found to who send the brasero patch review :)08:32
seb128mvo, the lines with a bzr emblem are merge request, you can click on the emblem08:33
seb128mvo, http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/oneiric-desktop has a few as well08:33
seb128like the gpm drop-override08:33
seb128didrocks, yeah, well I will try to do some sponsoring a well, I just got lazy to try to write a CD to test that one ;-)08:33
didrocksseb128: but… but… you will use an oneiric iso I guess, how can you don't feel attracted to this unique test? :-)08:34
seb128;-)08:35
aquariusmvo, ping?08:45
mvoaquarius: pong08:47
TommehBah.08:48
aquariusmvo, I had a weird problem where jetty depends on default-jre-headless | java5-runtime-headless, I had jetty installed, and had neither of those headless runtimes installed. How could that happen?08:49
TommehBack to comical fonts in gnome-shell08:49
Tommehtweak-tool isn't changing anything either :/08:49
mvoaquarius: are you still on the sytem that has this problme, what does apt-get install -f -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true say?08:50
aquariusmvo, well... I installed default-jre-headless manually. I'll try removing it again :)08:50
mvoaquarius: you sure nothing else provided default-jre-headless or java5-runtime-headless ?08:50
mvook08:50
mvoseb128: I will do the three desktop reviews now08:51
seb128mvo, \o/08:51
aquariusmvo, done. http://paste.ubuntu.com/654325/ So as you can see, jetty depends on those packages; I don't have either of those packages; apt doesn't seem to care :)08:52
seb128mvo, thanks08:52
mvoaquarius: could you pastebin "aptitude show default-jre-headless java5-runtime-headless08:53
mvo" please?08:53
mvoseb128: any thought on the libwnck API patch?08:53
seb128mvo, vuntz reviewed it upstream and seemed mostly fine with it, he's just thiking about the naming for 2 weeks08:54
mvoseb128: it looks ok, but that is something that really should be upstream08:54
seb128mvo, let's try to ping him once again08:54
seb128vuntz, ^08:54
mvoseb128: great, thanks08:54
seb128if he doesn't reply let's upload it with ubuntu_ namespaced functions08:55
mvofair enough08:55
mvoaquarius: I suspect something provides it, we just need to figure out what :)08:55
vuntzseb128: Trevinho and I discussed the patch and agreed on naming, he'll update the patch soon08:56
seb128vuntz, \o/08:56
seb128vuntz, thanks08:56
seb128vuntz, can we upload once the naming is fixing? ;-)08:56
aquariusmvo, aaaaaah. java5-runtime-headless is provided by sun-java6-jre08:57
seb128vuntz, not that we don't like you but if it takes another month it's blocking other things ;-)08:57
mvoaquarius: great, mysery solved and remember … apt is never wrong  ;)08:58
vuntzseb128: sure08:58
seb128vuntz, thanks08:58
vuntzseb128: I intend to do a release after this patch anyway08:58
aquariusbut default-runtime-headless puts a /usr/lib/jvm/default-java symlink in place, and sun-java6-jre doesn't. So that's basically some sort of packaging bug where people are depending on something that doesn't do everything it shoudl :)08:58
mvo(except for when it is of course)08:58
aquariusmvo, ah, either apt or you are never wrong ;)08:58
seb128mvo, it's twice in 2 days that you say that apt is never wrong and that you are right ;-)08:58
aquariusmvo, cheers!08:58
mvoaquarius: correct, if sun-java5 does not actually provide java5-runtime-headless (because $stuff is missing) then thats broken and it should not do that08:58
mvoyw08:58
seb128vuntz, do you have GNOME 3.1 on your opensuse btw? is vinagre working fine and listing other protocols that vnc?08:59
jbichaseb128: vinagre 3.1.4 magically works in Rawhide, but they just built through the implicit-function warnings09:00
seb128jbicha, btw seahorse-plugins seems deprecated, it didn't get any tarball since 2.32 and the gpg agent etc got moved to gnome-keyring09:01
seb128jbicha, I'm still not sure why we need the new lib?09:01
seb128jbicha, yeah, I'm asking vuntz about vinagre because opensuse has a toolchain similar to ours which use --as-needed as well09:02
seb128which I'm wondering is the issue09:02
vuntzseb128: I only have vnc, indeed09:02
jbichaif we had the new lib, seahorse-plugins does have some unique capability I believe but if upstream won't bother making a release09:02
jbichathen it doesn't need us spending too much time getting it to work09:02
seb128jbicha, like what? they didn't have a commit since february in git09:02
vuntzseb128: nautilus integration for gpg is what's left in seahorse-plugins09:03
seb128vuntz, can you confirm that the the rdp and ssh .so are installed in your vinagre? just to be sure09:03
vuntzseb128: yes, they're here09:04
seb128ok, so same issue than us and jbicha says it works on fedora09:04
seb128I've suspision it's a --as-needed thing09:04
seb128vuntz, thanks for the seahorse comment09:04
seb128jbicha, ^ seems like that could stay in universe09:04
seb128well in any case it's on my list of priority to maintain ;-)09:05
jbichayeah, seahorse-plugins should get demoted from main09:05
vuntzseb128: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=653558 already mentioned openSUSE was also affected ;-)09:06
jbichahow does main demotion work?09:06
ubot2Gnome bug 653558 in general "Unable to connect to RDP or SSH" [Normal,Unconfirmed]09:06
seb128jbicha, if nothing depends on it, it will show in component mismatch and be demoted09:06
seb128vuntz, oh, right ;-)09:06
jbichaI think seahorse-plugins also has a gedit plugin09:07
vuntzjbicha: it wasn't ported to GNOME 3, so won't work09:07
jbichaoh ok09:07
vuntziirc, only the nautilus bits still work09:07
seb128I've to admit I'm annoyed by the current vinagre maintainer who just decide to let the build broken until he lands a day a refactoring ;-)09:07
seb128mvo, while you are in the mood, https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/ubuntu/oneiric/gnome-power-manager/drop-override/+merge/6961509:08
seb128;-)09:09
seb128mvo, thanks for the sponsoring work! ;-)09:09
mvolooking now09:14
seb128mvo, did I told you before that we need to get ride of update-notifier? ;-)09:29
seb128mvo, (looking to what keep synaptic on the CD still and guess what... ;-)09:29
seb128well I guess switching update-notifier to do the apt-get update using aptdaemon would be easy as well09:30
mvoseb128: yeah09:36
xclaesseis it known that rhythmbox's window handling is totally broken under gnome-shell?09:39
seb128xclaesse, not known09:40
seb128well not by us at least, maybe the gnome-shell guys know about it09:41
xclaessewhen I click close X, window stay, but then it is not in overview09:41
xclaesseseems to be caused by ubuntu patch09:41
xclaessewas already like that on natty+gnome3ppa, still the same on oneiric09:41
xclaesseempathy had similar issues actually09:42
xclaessebut we fixed it09:42
xclaesseafaik rb's window does a gtk_window_iconify()09:43
xclaessebut that won't work correctly on gnome-shell09:44
seb128could be a rb issue then09:44
seb128it might be worth mentioning to the #rhythmbox guys09:44
xclaesseit must do gtk_window_hide()09:44
xclaessegtk_widget_hide() even09:44
seb128mvo, I'm lazy to checkout the update-manager vcs but can you python-aptdaemon-gtk -> python-aptdaemon.gtk3widgets09:46
seb128mvo, in the control Depends09:46
xclaesseseb128, I had reported it upstream a long time ago already, they said it's ubuntu's fault09:46
xclaesseseb128, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64811409:46
ubot2Gnome bug 648114 in general "Window does not always close when running gnome-shell" [Normal,Resolved: notgnome]09:46
xclaesseseb128, oh actually it is in lp now: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/78074709:46
ubot2Ubuntu bug 780747 in rhythmbox "Window does not always close when running gnome-shell" [Undecided,New]09:46
mvoseb128: k09:47
seb128mvo, thanks!09:48
seb128xclaesse, ok, dunno about that, the patch is there to do what you want basically, not exit when closed while playing (which is what upstream does)09:50
seb128didrocks added it09:50
seb128xclaesse, if we drop it closing rb would exit it09:50
didrocksin lucid IIRC09:50
xclaesseseb128, right, I like the behaviour, the problem is the way it's done09:51
xclaessegtk_window_iconify() won't work09:51
xclaessesince there is nowhere it will minimize09:51
seb128didn't you say it minimize the the messaging bar at the bottom of the overview?09:52
* xclaesse should read ubuntu's patch and upstream code to see exactly how this works09:52
seb128there is no gtk_window_iconify call in that patch09:52
xclaesseseb128, I remember that was upstream before09:52
xclaessesince empathy actually copied that code09:52
seb128well the patch you are talking about doesn't use it09:53
xclaesseseb128, is there a way to see ubuntu patch, other than apt-get source?09:53
xclaessegit branch?09:53
seb128xclaesse, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/rhythmbox/ubuntu09:53
xclaesseah, ofcourse, bzr :)09:54
chrisccoulsoni guess the issue is that rb_shell_set_visibility calls gtk_window_iconify ;)09:58
xclaessechrisccoulson, yep10:00
xclaessejust saw that10:00
xclaessethat method is full of hacks10:00
seb128chrisccoulson, how is the gnome-keyring update going? ;-)10:04
seb128chrisccoulson, hey btw, how are you? I'm not sure if I said hi today ;-)10:04
chrisccoulsonseb128, i'm good thanks10:07
chrisccoulsonyeah, i need to do the MIR ;)10:07
chrisccoulsonwill do that this morning10:07
seb128heh10:07
chrisccoulsoncurrently doing new firefox and tbird beta builds10:07
seb128it's midday, the morning is over :p10:07
chrisccoulsonlol10:07
chrisccoulsonnot for me ;)10:07
seb128;-)10:07
chrisccoulsoni need to automate this. i have so many branches to touch when i do a release, each with pretty much the same stuff in :/10:08
xclaesseseb128, I'm a bit noob to packaging... I've fetched rb from bzr, now how do I edit the patch and rebuild the package?10:12
xclaesseseb128, it should not use rb_shell_set_visibility() anymore, that's dead code in upstream10:12
xclaessea plain gtk_widget_hide() should work10:12
seb128xclaesse, bzr get lp:~ubuntu-desktop/rhythmbox/ubuntu10:12
seb128cd ubuntu10:12
seb128bzr bd-do10:12
seb128quilt push the_path_to_edit10:12
seb128gedit the source10:12
seb128quilt refresh10:12
seb128quilt pop10:12
seb128exit 010:13
seb128bzr bd10:13
seb128basically10:13
xclaesseseb128, thanks, let's try10:13
xclaesseseb128, starting well... bzr: ERROR: unknown command "bd-do"10:13
xclaesseseb128, any howto I could use?10:13
seb128install bzr-builddeb10:13
seb128xclaesse, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Bzr10:14
xclaesseseb128, argh, can't build rb:  libgnome-media-profiles-dev : Dépend: libgnome-media-profiles-3.0-0 (= 2.91.2-4) mais 3.0.0-0ubuntu1~build1 devra être installé10:25
xclaesseI get that when doing apt-get build-dep rhythmbox10:25
seb128xclaesse, what ubuntu version?10:25
xclaesseseb128, oneiric10:25
seb128try to sudo apt-get install libgnome-media-profiles-dev libgnome-media-profiles-3.0-010:25
seb128what does it say?10:25
xclaesse2s, running upgrade atm10:26
xclaesseseb128, btw that patch leaks window10:26
xclaesseg_object_get() gives a new ref afaik, so a g_object_unref() is missing10:26
xclaessenot a big issue, since that window will live until rb leaves anyway10:27
xclaesseseb128, The following packages have unmet dependencies:10:29
xclaesse libgnome-media-profiles-dev : Depends: libgnome-media-profiles-3.0-0 (= 2.91.2-4) but 3.0.0-0ubuntu1~build1 is to be installed10:29
xclaesseseb128, that's what I get with your comment10:29
xclaesseand after an apt-get update/upgrade10:29
seb128hum10:29
seb128try to sudo apt-get install libgnome-media-profiles-dev/oneiric libgnome-media-profiles-3.0-0/oneiric10:30
seb128seems like you have a ppa version installed10:30
xclaesseseb128, oh right, I've the one from gnome3 ppa on natty10:30
xclaesseI did upgrade to oneiric10:30
seb128it's weird, oneiric should be newer10:31
xclaesseseb128, good, that fixed the issue, thanks :)10:31
seb128yw10:32
ricotzhi, jfyi, rb dropped the gnome-media-profiles dependency10:39
ricotzseb128, hi, i made a working rb tarball lately10:40
seb128great10:41
ricotzperhaps it is worth looking at -- https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/staging/+files/rhythmbox_2.90.1%7Egit20110724.f8fe07a7-0ubuntu1%7E11.10%7Ericotz0.dsc10:42
ricotzcould be renamed to fit the current version string though10:42
xclaesseargh, bzr bd failed at the end to sign the debs :(10:44
xclaesseof course can't sign with maintainer's keys (:10:44
xclaessethere is an option to not sign?10:44
xclaesseseb128, ricotz ^10:46
seb128xclaesse, it didn't fail10:47
seb128xclaesse, you have your deb in build-area10:47
seb128it's just the signing which failed10:47
geserxclaesse: bzr bd -- -us -uc10:47
xclaesseahh, wonderful :)10:47
xclaesseseb128, thx10:47
seb128ricotz, one day you should really start asking for sponsoring and get your stuff in Ubuntu proper10:47
xclaessegeser, guess options after -- are fwd to dpkg-buildpackage?10:48
seb128ricotz, that would avoid having users getting a broken oneiric upgrade because the ppa has newer versions than oneiric10:48
geseryes10:48
seb128ricotz, it would also avoid having the work done a second time by somebody who will submit to the distro when you already did the work on your side10:48
ricotzseb128, oh?, i didnt touch gnome-media-profiles10:49
ricotzand the rhythmbox snapshot was just testing, moch said there would be a release soon10:50
seb128ricotz, ok, seems it's robert_ancell, sorry for this one, that still stand for ie. your rhythmbox update10:50
ricotzbut currently the rb git master is broken due gcc warn-error stuff10:50
xclaesseseb128, ok my modified patch works nicely, what's the best way to get it into ubuntu?10:52
xclaesseand reviewed by you or didrocks of course10:52
xclaesse(did not test on unity though, probably you'll have to verify that before uploading)10:53
xclaessebut that should be safe, tbh10:53
seb128xclaesse, attach it to the bug and subscribe ubuntu-sponsors10:55
seb128ricotz, turn off Werror?10:55
ricotzseb128, i know, still this needs to be fixed upstream10:56
xclaesseseb128, done: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/78074710:57
ubot2Ubuntu bug 780747 in rhythmbox "Window does not always close when running gnome-shell" [Undecided,New]10:57
seb128xclaesse, thanks10:59
xclaesseyw10:59
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xclaesseI can again drop that suff called banshee \o/10:59
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mvodidrocks: I guess thats right, I'm not 100% nowdays as we use the actionbar for the "do you want to add to unity" actionbar too, tremolux will know for ysure11:35
didrocksmvo: indeed, let's wait for him on that then. (I don't know why you don't have the actionbar showing in the detail view without it, I can't get it in oneconf without that)11:36
bullgard4_I would like reporting an error in GNOME 2 under Natty: The screen freezes with some artifacts, but I can recover by toggling to a virtual console. What package should I associate my error report to in Launchpad?11:40
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chrisccoulsondidrocks, http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/comm-beta/rev/f67f7a7027a711:46
chrisccoulsonthat will be in the next beta i upload (probably monday)11:46
didrockschrisccoulson: excellent! I'm eager to test it :)11:46
chrisccoulsoncool :)11:48
chrisccoulsoni've already uploaded it to the thunderbird-next PPA11:48
chrisccoulsonalthough nothing for oneiric ;)11:49
didrockschrisccoulson: only the oneiric one is contaminated right now :)11:49
ricotzchrisccoulson, could you upload it for oneiric too then? ;)11:49
chrisccoulsonricotz, i will do once upstream have actually released the new beta11:49
ricotzi mean to the ppa11:49
chrisccoulsonricotz, not yet. i've only uploaded it to the PPA because i can disable publishing until it's actually released11:50
chrisccoulsonso it's fairly pointless for me to upload the oneiric build to 2 places11:51
ricotzok, i see11:51
chrisccoulsondidrocks, would you be able to take a look at bug 817995? :)11:58
ubot2Launchpad bug 817995 in p11-kit "[MIR] p11-kit" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81799511:58
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ricotzchrisccoulson, are there thunderbird packaging difference between natty and oneiric?12:20
ricotzi am tempted to build it locally then12:20
chrisccoulsonricotz, yeah12:20
chrisccoulsonthere's no messaging menu integration in the natty packages12:20
chrisccoulsonand the oneiric packages also have some patches which we are going to be using for eds contacts integration12:20
chrisccoulsoni can't remember what else is different ;)12:21
ricotzmhh, ok12:21
* mterry is reviewing jbicha's 2nd suggest-minissdpd branch now12:41
ricotzchrisccoulson, hopefully my tmpfs is big enough for a thunderbird build :P12:49
chrisccoulsonricotz, how big is it?12:49
ricotz6gb12:49
chrisccoulsonyeah, should be ok12:50
ricotzgood :)12:50
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seb128ricotz, can you open a sponsoring request for your rb update?13:02
seb128chrisccoulson, if you do the gnome-keyring update just upload, don't wait on the mir13:02
* mterry sits down and does some MIRs13:02
seb128chrisccoulson, it will dep wait until the mir is reviewed but things tend to get some actions once they are actually blocking13:02
chrisccoulsonseb128, ok. i'm just about ready to upload that13:02
seb128\o/13:03
ricotzseb128, i would need to document the changes and change the version-string13:11
seb128ricotz, that's fine you can do it! ;-)13:11
ricotzis a xz-tarball ok?13:11
seb128better if .bz213:13
seb128we didn't try .xz yet13:13
ricotzit isnt exactly this commit stated in the version, i added my patch which got committed later after the "gcc breaking"-commits13:13
ricotzthe ppa builder are already ok with it13:13
ricotzi am only using xz since they are smaller ;)13:14
ricotzchrisccoulson, :(13:15
ricotz../coreconf/config.mk:71: ../coreconf/Linux3.0.mk: No such file or directory13:15
ricotz/usr/bin/make -j1: *** No rule to make target ../coreconf/Linux3.0.mk.  Stop.13:15
ricotzi used the plain natty package from the ppa13:16
chrisccoulsonricotz, oh, yeah13:16
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chrisccoulsonricotz, just copy build-tree/mozilla/security/coreconf/Linux2.6.mk to Linux3.0.mk for now13:17
chrisccoulsoni guess i will fix that properly at some point ;)13:17
ricotzalright13:17
ricotzi hope the next run will do ;)13:18
chrisccoulsonricotz, oh, it's already fixed in nss: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66160913:21
seb128kenvandine, hey13:21
ubot2Mozilla bug 661609 in Build "Linux3.0.mk missing in security/coreconf for upcoming 3.0 kernel" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]13:21
chrisccoulsoni should probably take that patch, as it's a pain for me as well13:21
seb128kenvandine, eds upstream seems to have fixed your issues in git today13:21
kenvandineseb128, more?13:24
kenvandinegreat13:24
* kenvandine goes to look13:25
seb128kenvandine, yeah, the new issue you got yesterday13:25
seb128kenvandine, http://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution-data-server/commit/?id=3326a82d03a2cb2799bae9a77e6ca20c601efdef13:26
jbichamvo: you pushed transmission 2.33 today, right? I don't see the branch as having been merged in though13:30
ricotzchrisccoulson, ok, i just added "cp $(DEB_SRCDIR)/mozilla/security/coreconf/Linux2.6.mk $(DEB_SRCDIR)/mozilla/security/coreconf/Linux3.0.mk" to pre-build in rules13:35
mvojbicha: indeed, let me check13:40
BeretI found a bug where if you make an application visible on all desktops and it happens to sit where a unity lens would appear, the lens goes behind the application13:41
Beretanyone happen to know if that's been reported already off hand?13:41
seb128Beret, hi, not that I know about13:46
dobeymvo: ping13:53
seb128poor mvo13:56
seb128he keeps being pinged today ;-)13:56
mvohey dobey13:56
mvoseb128: and a segfault in apt that makes me crzay13:56
mvoI trade 5 pi(n)gs for a fix!13:56
seb128lol13:56
seb128mvo, easy trade for a vegetarian :p13:57
mvolol13:57
dobeymvo: hey. i was looking at the atpdaemon.client module yesterday, but i don't see any way to simply check what version of a package is installed with it. is there no way to do that?13:57
mvodobey: the aptdaemon stuff is mostly about acting on the pkgs in some way, for just querying, the easiest way is "import apt; cache=apt.Cache(); cache["2vcard"].is_installed or pkg=cache["apt"]; pkg.candidate.version"13:58
mvodobey: python, right? that is what you need?13:59
mvohttp://apt.alioth.debian.org/python-apt-doc/index.html13:59
mvofor the full API docs13:59
dobeymvo: yes. but was hoping to use a single api13:59
mvodobey: ok, what information do you want to query exactly? I guess we can extend the aptdaemon.client api14:00
dobeymvo: hrmm, i think there was also no way to query if a repository is already added, and whether it is enabled14:02
dobeymvo: basically, i don't see any sort of query API in aptdaemon at all :)14:03
dobeymvo: i guess ideally, it makes sense to me for python-apt and python-aptdaemon to just be merged :)14:04
cyphermoxchrisccoulson: how's your bluetooth? I saw you had enabled hci2hid in bluez, but it seems like that's failing on my system, my dongle gets switched but doesn't seem to like it14:07
mvodobey: I will discuss this with glatzor, so far the split was intentional, one API to query, one to "act"14:07
mvodobey: for what component is this?14:07
dobeymvo: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-ubuntuone-agile-delivery-of-u114:09
mvothx14:09
mvothis is a bit lame I admit, but couldn't you just trigger the install and catch the exception that gets triggered if its already insatlled?14:10
dobeymvo: so ubuntuone-installer. need to check that we're installed, before installing14:10
dobeymvo: no. the design is to just launch the control panel if we're already installed. and doing the install would require user entering password N times to do that admin stuff :-/14:11
mvodobey: you could use a simulate transaction for this, but like I said, a bit lame14:12
dobeymvo: i'm not disagreeing with you. i'm just doing what i have to do.14:13
mvobut my suggestion for now would be python-apt as its well documented and most suitable for this14:14
dobeyyeah. i don't have much choice :)14:18
chrisccoulsonseb128, oh, i've just noticed here that the soname for libgcr-3 changed downwards in the latest gnome-keyring :/14:20
kenvandineseb128, yay... ebook gir works now!  at least for my minimal example14:21
kenvandine:)14:21
chrisccoulson(libgcr-3.so.1 => libgcr-3.so.0)14:21
kenvandinei can search for contacts and print the vcard14:21
kenvandinebut now BigWhale is out of town... :(14:21
seb128chrisccoulson, do you have the commit that did that handy?14:23
seb128kenvandine, great that it's fixed ;-)14:23
seb128kenvandine, do you know if that's normal we didn't get indicators stack update this week? what about libindicate-gtk on gtk3?14:24
chrisccoulsonseb128, i guess it's this one - http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-keyring/commit/configure.ac?id=b6928fd48a08f380fae02d0d2ea39a361c69782514:24
kenvandineit is normal, there wasn't a milestone for this week14:24
kenvandineindicator-sound is in the works14:24
kenvandineindicator-session might still come14:24
kenvandineand i need to look at libindicate again14:24
seb128kenvandine, the a3 freeze is on monday14:25
seb128kenvandine, we have a w.i for libindicate for a3, should we move it...?14:25
kenvandinenot yet14:25
kenvandinei would like to try to get it done today14:26
seb128ok14:26
kenvandinei really want that in a314:26
kenvandinebut i have other stuff i want done for a3 too :)14:26
seb128chrisccoulson, I forgot that you were on #gnome-hackers...great ;-)14:26
DBO:( lightdm stopped working after upgrade14:26
seb128chrisccoulson, can you just distro patch that commit out?14:26
seb128DBO, do you have lightdm-gtk-greeter installed?14:27
DBOchecking14:27
chrisccoulsonseb128, yeah, i can distro-patch that. no symbols have actually been removed14:27
DBOjust curious14:27
DBOshould I?14:27
seb128DBO, yes14:27
DBOodd no...14:28
DBOlemme test again14:28
DBObrb14:28
DBOthanks seb12814:29
seb128DBO, you're welcome14:29
seb128DBO, you probably caught an update at the wrong time or use a mirror lagging behind14:30
seb128DBO, we got it fixed yesterday14:30
* didrocks sees the growing MIR number to review… this will never ever finish?14:32
seb128didrocks, speaking of which can you promote the ones mterry acked?14:35
didrocksmterry: do you have the list handy?14:36
seb128didrocks, there was the upnp things for torrent recently and gnome-online-account and librest today14:36
seb128well at least those14:36
didrocks"upnp things" isn't a package :)14:37
seb128http://pad.lv/813308 and http://pad.lv/81331814:37
didrocksthanks14:37
seb128(copying the etherpad)14:37
seb128didrocks, thank you ;-)14:38
didrocksyw, doing now14:38
didrocksmterry: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=633643, there seems to be a quite extensive discussion on the licence, I'm waiting on it to end then14:42
ubot2Debian bug 633643 in src:libnatpmp "libnatpmp: missing license in copyright file" [Serious,Open]14:42
didrocksm4n1sh: next package which new tarball packaged should fix it14:43
didrocksmterry: ^^14:43
didrockssorry m4n1sh :)14:43
mterrydidrocks, :)14:43
didrocksjbicha: care of packaging the new one?14:43
ricotzchrisccoulson, 6gb werent enough :\14:45
chrisccoulsonricotz, oh? that surprises me14:45
chrisccoulsoni know the build tree is large, but i didn't think it was that big ;)14:45
ricotzi was building in a pbuilder chroot14:46
jbichadidrocks: anything important in the French I should know?14:46
ricotzso it might only get 5gb14:46
ricotzchrisccoulson, it run out of space while building the thunderbird-dbg package ;)14:46
didrocksjbicha: they relicenced in BSD, so you should change it to that licence, and rerun by mterry with it, please :)14:47
chrisccoulsonricotz, oh, that doesn't surprise me14:47
didrocksjbicha: basically, licencecheck -r * to ensure the licence change, and list that in debian/copyright14:47
didrocksjbicha: mterry: all the other are promoted14:51
ricotzseb128, i am getting to the rb package, was this patch considered for inclusion yet? -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/78074714:51
ubot2Ubuntu bug 780747 in rhythmbox "Window does not always close when running gnome-shell" [Undecided,New]14:51
seb128ricotz, yes, please include it in the update14:52
seb128cyphermox: hey14:53
seb128cyphermox: do you still plan to update libgdata?14:53
cyphermoxhey seb12814:53
cyphermoxyeah14:53
seb128ok14:53
cyphermoxI was still waiting for the mir14:53
seb128do it the other way around14:53
seb128upload, it will upload to raise the mir priority ;-)14:53
seb128once we have things depwaiting on it14:53
cyphermoxalright14:53
cyphermoxseems like I might have to re-do it now though, but it's no big deal14:53
cyphermox(I seem to not have the directory I did my work in)14:54
seb128oh, ok14:54
seb128no hurry, whenever you have time14:54
cyphermoxah, won't take much time. I'll start now14:55
jbichamy bzr merge-upstream is broken :-(14:57
jbichamaybe it's just this watch file & the upstream web server that confuses it14:59
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chrisccoulsonseb128, http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-keyring/commit/gcr/gcr-collection-model.h?id=7b5e4e3c1e8cf94a03f1bd21eacb53991b32f6c615:03
chrisccoulsonwithout an soname change :(15:03
seb128chrisccoulson, guess it's time for another ping to stefw ;-)15:03
chrisccoulsonheh15:03
seb128do we use those function anywhere?15:03
seb128the number of rdepends for that lib is low I think15:04
chrisccoulsonseb128, empathy15:05
chrisccoulsonnot sure if it uses any of those symbols though15:05
chrisccoulsoni could just install it and see ;)15:05
seb128yeah, please do it ;-)15:05
seb128but still ping stefw about it15:05
ricotzseb128, rb done15:06
seb128ricotz, thanks, where? ;-)15:06
ricotzhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/78074715:06
ubot2Ubuntu bug 780747 in rhythmbox "Window does not always close when running gnome-shell" [Undecided,New]15:06
chrisccoulsonseb128, no, it doesn't use any of those symbols15:06
chrisccoulsonso they're not used anywhere15:07
seb128still worth mentioning to upstream ;-)15:08
jbichadidrocks: I left a comment on the Debian bug, there's still 1 file under the other license15:12
didrocksjbicha: ok, thanks for the head's up!15:13
hallynoneiric install did not go well, so I manually did 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'.  But now I can' tfind that background that cycles around space pictures.  Anyone know waht package that is in?15:26
Davieyhallyn: Sounds like a release critical bug. :)15:27
hallynDaviey: I thought cjwatson had mentioned knowing about it15:31
Davieyhallyn: should be in screensaver-default-images15:34
Daviey/usr/share/backgrounds/space-*.jpg15:34
jbichahallyn: upstream deleted them: http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-backgrounds/commit/?id=41c743054269a4aa20aab2862258f4bc9e41b69815:34
hallynjbicha: I'm going to cry15:38
chrisccoulsonhmmm, so, i'm missing something with gnome-keyring15:43
chrisccoulsoni get "this connection is untrusted" errors with empathy now15:43
seb128bug or feature?15:43
seb128is the connection really untrusted?15:44
cyphermoxchrisccoulson: gtalk? it seemed to be giving me a self-signed certificate today15:46
chrisccoulsoncyphermox, i'm getting it with everything15:52
chrisccoulsonit's related to the gnome-keyring update i'm testing15:52
chrisccoulsonmterry, libsigsegv isn't a very reassuring name for a package ;)15:53
cyphermoxok15:53
seb128cyphermox, kenvandine: btw gnome-online-accounts got promoted and g-c-c built with it15:53
cyphermoxcool15:53
seb128you can build evolution, gwibber or whatever needs it with it15:53
cyphermoxbut g-o-a requires libgdata15:54
cyphermoxI mean15:54
cyphermoxe-d-s with goa needs libgdata and liboauth :)15:54
seb128ok15:54
kenvandineseb128, i'll play with that15:55
kenvandinethx15:55
* kenvandine heads out for some food, bbiab15:56
cyphermoxseb128: I won't be able to upload libgdata; it's in core only (has been since natty); should that be changed?15:57
seb128cyphermox: did you plan by then to update libsoup or started on it as well? I'm not sure but I think you said you were doing it15:57
cyphermoxi didn't put it in the list15:57
cyphermoxbut I was going to do that after, back then15:57
seb128cyphermox: yes it should, can you drop an email to cjwatson? I can upload the current version for you for today15:58
cyphermoxok15:58
cyphermoxjust testing the build now; but I still had my code after all15:58
seb128great15:58
geserdoes indicator-multiload work for someone? all I see looks like the "missing icon"16:02
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bigonan idea about this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/81180516:43
ubot2Ubuntu bug 811805 in gdm "GDM spawn a metacity process that is not terminated when a user login" [Undecided,New]16:43
cyphermoxseb128: for some reason the debian-dir-only branch for libgdata always seems to think it's a native package16:53
seb128cyphermox: is that a source v1 package?16:53
cyphermoxseb128: I can force it not to by switching to format 3.0; but I don't understand why it otherwise16:53
cyphermoxyeah16:53
seb128source v1 only do tar.gz orig16:53
cyphermoxah16:54
cyphermoxnever thought this could be it :)16:54
cyphermoxthanks!16:54
seb128you're welcome ;-)16:54
seb128bigon, no idea no16:54
didrocksTypeError: __init__() takes at least 3 arguments (3 given)16:54
didrockshum, is it python wanting to mess with me today? :)16:54
seb128didrocks, well if it can't troll you on friday... ;-)16:55
didrockshum, on friday evening even? ;)16:55
seb128indeed16:56
seb128;-)16:56
didrockspython is mean then! :)16:58
davmor2didrocks: it's not mean it's misunderstood17:00
seb128didrocks, is that python or g-i?17:00
mterrychrisccoulson, libsigsegv is job security17:03
cyphermoxmterry: so what does libsigsegv do besides misusing memory?17:07
cyphermox:)17:07
tremoluxdidrocks: heyo! can I bug you on this lively Friday evening for a quick question about your branch lp:~didrocks/software-center/fix-label-set ?17:09
tremoluxdidrocks: I wonder if you have a specific condition that you need that change for17:10
mterrycyphermox, it's all about cross-platform handling of seg faults cleanly.  If I recall, the new gawk pulls it in, oddly17:10
tremoluxdidrocks: 'cuz it has a regression for the add-to-launcher feature17:10
tremoluxdidrocks: lively -> lovely17:11
cyphermoxmterry: cool17:11
cyphermoxwouldn't that interfere with apport if it traps the segfaults, etc. ?17:11
didrockstremolux: yeah, for oneconf, basically, it seems I need that to not have it on the detail view17:13
mterrycyphermox, I don't know; probably depends on what gawk does when it handles its own.  I don't think we get that many reports from gawk anyway.  ;)17:13
didrocks(the "show/hide technical items")17:13
cyphermoxnah :)17:13
tremoluxdidrocks: yeah, that should be showing there, but there must be a codepath in OneConf that shows it sounds like17:14
tremoluxdidrocks: that *shouldn't* be showing there (jeez) :p17:14
didrockstremolux: indeed, but I can't find in softwarepane what makes that or not17:15
didrockstremolux: seems really similar to me17:15
didrockstremolux: I call that function and I'm in the same pane configuration (with the same indexes)17:15
* ricotz still hopes for a rhythmbox upload :P17:16
tremoluxdidrocks: so the bug is that you are adding a panel with the oneconf view, and the "show/hide technical items" appears?17:18
kenvandinedamn it's hot outside!  101F...17:18
didrockstremolux: indeed, the oneconf pane is pretty similar to "available software one"17:19
didrocksso there is an applist17:19
didrocksand a detail view17:19
didrocksthe "show/hide technical items" appears in the detail_view17:19
tremoluxdidrocks: ok, how about I run oneconf trunk and test?17:20
tremoluxdidrocks: seems we'll need to tweak that bit of logic a bit more17:20
didrockstremolux: indeed, I have some bzr issues to commit, one sec…17:21
didrocksgrrr, not sure what happens, it really doesn't want, rebranch and replying the latest diff17:22
tremoluxdidrocks: seems something's trying to tell you to start your weekend finally ;)17:24
didrockstremolux: I guess so :)17:28
didrockshum, bzr patch doesn't take from the other branch the renaming :/17:28
tremoluxdidrocks: bleh17:30
didrocksgrrr, it really doesn't want…17:34
Sweetsharkjasoncwarner_: http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2011/07/29/a-word-of-thanks/ <- now its official official17:37
owaisHey guys, anyone knows anything about WebKitGtk DOM access? Looks functions like GetElementById etc are not introspected in the Gir files. Any Idea when this will be fixed or HOW? or should I ask in #Motu?17:40
didrockstremolux: ok, I pushed to latest trunk (recreating a new branch and having to report everything manually :/)17:41
didrockstremolux: I think we will maybe look at it on Monday, other than that, everything in OneConf is ported to the new SSO, new server side, and new s-c gtk2!17:41
Sweetsharkjasoncwarner_: and http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/201107/msg00072.html17:42
cyphermoxseb128: for libgdata, I merge, you upload?17:42
tremoluxdidrocks: nice!!  \o/17:43
tremoluxdidrocks: I'll take a look at it today to see if I can fix up that panel problem17:44
didrockstremolux: hum, you will need some data with other computers :-)17:44
tremoluxdidrocks: ah ah17:44
didrockstremolux: there is an easy way to fake that actually, but you need to run the server by hand in trunk, so maybe on Monday?17:45
tremoluxdidrocks: ok, well it's not a blocker, correct? so we can take care of it next week17:45
didrockstremolux: right17:45
tremoluxdidrocks: ok, sounds good  :)17:45
tremoluxdidrocks: have a great weekend!17:45
didrockstremolux: thanks, you too!17:45
* tremolux runs for some lunch17:46
jcastroheya didrocks17:46
jcastrodidrocks: remember how we went through all those quicklists at UDS?17:47
didrocksjcastro: yeah!17:47
jcastroare we keeping track of progress?17:47
didrocksjcastro: there is a blueprint of that and cdbs seems to tackle some, but there is still a lot to do…17:48
didrocksgood weekend everyone18:04
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seb128cyphermox: yeah, feel free to merge, I will review and upload next week (it's friday evening there and I'm calling it a week, no hurry anyway since it will be depwaiting on a mir review)18:49
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fhdHi. I'm setting up a system for Ubuntu development, so I installed the latest daily build of oneiric. There is for some reason no /etc/X11/xorg.conf - how can I add more resolutions?22:08
charlie-tcaHasn't been an xorg.conf for many releases now. Usually, you can create one and it will be used22:15
fhdcharlie-tca: Oh, never noticed. Guess it's been a while since my solution wasn't recognised correctly.22:16
charlie-tcaat least three releases now without one22:17
fhdcharlie-tca: Can I somehow dump the default/current configuration to xorg.conf so I don't break anything else?22:17
charlie-tcaI don't know how to do it22:17
charlie-tcaIf you have an nvidia card, you can install the hardware drivers and it will create the xorg.conf file.22:18
fhdcharlie-tca: plain old intel22:18
charlie-tcaOtherwise, it's kind of a guessing game22:18
maxbAlthough, you don't need to write a full xorg.conf, afaik - X still seems to autodetect bits you don't override22:19
charlie-tcaThis might help - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/KernelModeSetting22:20
charlie-tcaIt at least gives some of xorg.conf22:20
fhdcharlie-tca: Thanks, I'll take a look22:21

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