[07:17]  * smb yawns
[08:07]  * smb waves to apw and cking
[08:09] <smb> cking, Network issues? You seem to be coming in a lot this morning
[08:10] <cking> smb, yep, faffing around with my DNS server settings
[08:34]  * apw waves
[08:35]  * smb tries to talk to apw... without much success...
[08:53] <apw> bah mumble neither exists nor starts at the moment, wtf
[13:05] <ogasawara> davmor2: able to get the latest test kernel installed and tested?  just posted a comment to the bug.
[13:06] <ogasawara> davmor2: I'm planning to upload our alpha3 kernel today, so would like to get this resolved in time if we can.
[13:13] <davmor2> ogasawara: ah okay so the newer kernel might of been over riding it?   the RAlink driver has a glitch but it's really hard to get it to reproduce reliably,  every now and again it will drop out and not reconnect, disable the wifi and enable it again or flick the wifi switch off and on and it connects and works fine till it decides to drop again
[13:14] <davmor2> only happened twice
[13:14] <davmor2> today it hasn't dropped at all
[13:14] <ogasawara> davmor2: that ralink driver is still noted as experimental, so I'm not too surprised it might still have some issue
[13:15] <davmor2> ogasawara: Yeap I was just forewarning you
[13:15] <davmor2> ogasawara: on the whole it's fine
[13:16] <ogasawara> davmor2:  if you're maybe able to find a good reproducer, might be good to open an upstream bug
[13:16] <davmor2> ogasawara: right so I've knocked some of the old test kernels off and am trying again now
[13:16] <ogasawara> davmor2: cool
[13:17] <davmor2> ogasawara: I will do it's trying to get it to reproduce on spec at all currently
[13:33] <davmor2> ogasawara: okay so I reboot I have no wifi but is the kernel right now as it still doesn't look it http://paste.ubuntu.com/654489/
[13:33] <ogasawara> davmor2: so that looks like the mainline v3.0 kernel, care to make sure that's uninstalled?
[13:34] <davmor2> ogasawara: will do although I though I already had once
[13:39] <davmor2> ogasawara: right purged from the system and now to try again
[13:39] <ogasawara> davmor2: thanks, sorry for all the confusion
[13:49] <tgardner> jjohansen, so what patches went into your test kernel at people.canonical.com/~jj/linux-image-2.6.38-11-generic_2.6.38-11.47~lp813748_amd64.deb ?
[13:49] <ogasawara> tgardner, apw, bjf[afk]: wanna mumble after I'm done with the release meeting this morning?
[13:49] <tgardner> ogasawara, wfm
[13:50] <jjohansen> tgardner: it was the full set listed in the redhat patch, the tree was on tangerine
[13:50] <jjohansen> tgardner: I can recreate
[13:50] <jjohansen> just give me a few min
[13:50] <tgardner> jjohansen, well, attach them to the bug report. thats about the only permanent place.
[13:51] <jjohansen> tgardner: ack
[13:52] <davmor2> ogasawara: finally got the right one, no wifi
[13:53] <ogasawara> davmor2: ok, seems to be something in our overlayfs patches.  gonna require a few more test iterations to narrow down which one and not sure we'll be able to resolve in time for the Alpha 3 upload.
[13:54] <ogasawara> davmor2: will kick off the next test build...
[13:54] <davmor2> ogasawara: go for it :)
[13:55] <tgardner> ogasawara, overlayfs isn't loaded automatically (I think), so how could that affect wifi ?
[13:56] <ogasawara> tgardner: does seem a bit odd that it would have any affect at all
[13:56] <tgardner> ogasawara, well, it could have a memory corrupter if loaded. is it getting loaded ?
[13:58] <ogasawara> davmor2: ^^ can you check for the overlayfs module
[13:59] <ogasawara> davmor2: can you also double check that you indeed had the following test kernel installed when you confirmed it was working?  http://people.canonical.com/~ogasawara/lp814882/good/linux-image-3.0.0-7-generic_3.0.0-7.8~lp814882v3commitf59f91_i386.deb
[14:00] <davmor2> ogasawara: yeap right kernel this time it was replacing 3.0.0-7-generic in the grub menu
[14:00] <apw> ogasawara, there are a couple of generic patches in the start of the overlayfs stack, if tis not working pull it
[14:00] <lilstevie> Im getting this error while trying to build a kernel package: "Checking for dupe aliases in tegra...
[14:00] <lilstevie> run-parts: debian/tests/check-aliases exited with return code 2"
[14:00] <apw> ogasawara, though they are all vfs related iirc
[14:01] <davmor2> ogasawara: how do I check for the modules is there an lsmod or something like that?
[14:01] <ogasawara> davmor2: yah, do an lsmod
[14:03] <davmor2> ogasawara: no overlayfs listed in lsmod
[14:04] <apw> ogasawara, so why do we think its overlayfs
[14:04] <ogasawara> apw: only because I built him a test kernel right up to before we applied the overlayfs bits, and it worked.  with the overlayfs bits, fails.
[14:05] <ogasawara> apw: you by chance have a netbook with broadcom?
[14:05] <apw> ogasawara, thats pretty conclusive
[14:05] <ogasawara> bug 814882
[14:05] <apw> ogasawara, yep
[14:05] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 814882 in linux "BCM-sta driver stop working with the latest kernal update" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/814882
[14:05] <ogasawara> apw: have you thrown the latest 3.0.0-7.8 kernel on there by chance?
[14:06] <ogasawara> apw: I'd be curious if you're able to reproduce
[14:06] <apw> ogasawara, if its that conclusive rip it out and give him another test kernel with it off
[14:07] <ogasawara> apw: ack
[14:07] <apw> as in reverted, and it that sorts him, then lets drop it for A3 and scratch head, how it could affect wirelss
[14:07] <apw> i suspect its as likely a kernel layout issue as anything else
[14:07] <apw>  ogasawara is BCM-sta == the wl driver ?
[14:09] <tgardner> apw, I think so since he's complaining about jockey installs
[14:09] <tgardner> Broadcom Corporation BCM4312
[14:10] <apw> i have a 4313
[14:10] <davmor2> ogasawara: is it worth me double checking the other kernels to ensure I was looking at the right one when they were working?
[14:10] <apw> tgardner, can you remember which one is supported by the staging driver
[14:11] <tgardner> there is some overlap, so I'm not sure I ever knew for sure.
[14:11] <ogasawara> apw: can't off the top of my head
[14:11] <apw> ok
[14:11] <ogasawara> davmor2: yes, double check http://people.canonical.com/~ogasawara/lp814882/good/linux-image-3.0.0-7-generic_3.0.0-7.8~lp814882v3commitf59f91_i386.deb
[14:12] <ogasawara> davmor2: that should work
[14:12] <ogasawara> davmor2: or so you claimed
[14:14] <apw> davmor2, you say the driver "uninstalled itself" and "cannot reinstall it with apt-get"
[14:14] <apw> what error do you get when you try and reinstall it with apt-get
[14:16] <davmor2> apw: ah pass I can find out after one sencond
[14:21] <davmor2> ogasawara: sorry it look like I might of booted into the wrong kernel with that one it's not working and I've double checked it this time :)
[14:21] <ogasawara> davmor2: ok, lets try to walk back through these then
[14:23] <ogasawara> davmor2: retest http://people.canonical.com/~ogasawara/lp814882/good/linux-image-3.0.0-6-generic_3.0.0-6.7+lp814882v1_i386.deb
[14:25] <kirkland> apw: are there instructions in the wiki for how to add a minor patch to an Ubuntu kernel and push to a PPA for building?
[14:25] <lilstevie> http://pastie.org/2290069
[14:25] <kirkland> apw: these aren't for me;  I need to pass them on to someone
[14:26] <davmor2> apw:  bcmwl-kernel-source is already the newest version, with remove and install it does just that.  so no error just it's already there
[14:26] <lilstevie> I saw that ogra had a similar issue when googling the error but following what was said after that didn't seem to work
[14:26] <apw> davmor2, hang on there was a bug with dkms not rebulding dkms things which was fixed really really recently
[14:26] <apw> what version of dkms do you have right now
[14:27] <davmor2> apw: 2.2.0.1-0ubuntu1
[14:30] <apw> davmor2, can you tell from the apt logs when it was installed for you
[14:31] <davmor2> apw: it was install way back I'll check for you though
[14:32] <awilkins> kirkland, I haven't so far been able to get a Kernel / PPA going
[14:32] <awilkins> kirkland, I have built kernel debs locally though
[14:34] <awilkins> I'm not sure that the kernel builds are integrated into Soyuz anyway ; the kernel team seem to use git and the Bazaar imports are just there to be useful
[14:35] <apw> davmor2, the update is only 2 weeks old
[14:36] <davmor2> apw: I have kernels 3.0.0-5 on here and I'm pretty sure there is one before that too
[14:37] <davmor2> ogasawara: That one fails now I'm looking in the right place, I think I must of been using that mainline the whole time as it was the newest kernel version
[14:38] <davmor2> apw: what the new version of dkms or do I have it installed?
[14:39] <apw> davmor2, the version of dkms until this latest update would randomly decide that it didn't need to make external modules
[14:40] <jcastro> sconklin: ok, the old forum threads have been deindexed, can you try a few queries and see if anything bad shows up in google?
[14:40] <apw> davmor2, you seem to have it installed now, which is why i am interested when it became installed
[14:41] <davmor2> apw: the driver worked fine in 3.0.0-6-generic then when it updated to 3.0.0-7-generic it stopped,  ogasawara has given me a newer mainline version that has the wifi working if I understand correctly
[14:43] <ogasawara> davmor2: you confirmed mainline 3.0-rc7 was working, so I'd like you to retest that the final v3.0 is indeed broken as that major change between 3.0.0-6.7 and 3.0.0-7.8 is the rebase from 3.0-rc7 to 3.0 final
[14:43] <ogasawara> davmor2: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.0-oneiric/
[14:44] <apw> davmor2, right so in each test you confirmed the running kernel version, and whether there was a wl loaded ?  yes ?
[14:44] <apw> ogasawara, are you giving davmor2 different kernels with the same abi ?
[14:45] <davmor2> apw: I thought I had but it seems not which is why I'm going back over it all now
[14:45] <apw> and if you don't have wl, we'd want to know waht modprobe wl says too
[14:48] <davmor2> apw: is it just wl for the module name if so it say "Module wl not found"
[14:48] <apw> davmor2, well i'd want that confirmed too
[14:49] <apw> and when we are in that situation i want to ask dkms to rebuild so we can check the build logs
[14:52] <jjohansen> tgardner: attached, though I don't think all of the patches should be necessary for this particular bug, but I haven't weeded through them yet.
[14:55] <tgardner> jjohansen, please keep working it to narrow down to the minimum set.
[14:56] <davmor2> ogasawara: right 3.0.0-0300-generic Doesn't work, which wsa right it was the modded rc7 that did from memory
[14:56] <jjohansen> tgardner: ack
[14:56] <tgardner> plus, lets use the public bug. there are no real secrets here.
[14:57] <apw> davmor2, ok can you look in /var/lib/dkms/bcmwl/5* and see what directories you have
[14:57] <apw> do you have one called 3.0.0-0300-generic 
[14:58] <apw> davmor2, and you confirmed that modprobe wl says "Module wl not found"
[14:59] <davmor2> apw: /var/lib/dkms is empty bar dkms_dbversion and modprobe wl still says "Module wl not found
[15:00] <davmor2> "
[15:00] <apw> you have _no_ bcmwl directory even
[15:01] <davmor2> apw: Nope 
[15:02] <apw> davmor2, ok then i think we want to uninstall and reinstall the bcmwl-kernel-source and can you pastebin all of the output that produces
[15:05] <davmor2> ls
[15:05] <davmor2> apw: now there is
[15:07] <davmor2> apw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/654555/
[15:07] <apw> davmor2, and modprobe wl now ?
[15:09] <davmor2> apw: FATAL: Erro inserting wl (/lib/modules/3.0.0-0300-generic/updates/dkms/wl.ko): Operation not permitted
[15:09] <davmor2> Error even
[15:10] <apw> did you do that as you or via sudo
[15:10] <davmor2> apw: no that went through now D'oh
[15:11] <davmor2> apw: and now I have wifi
[15:11] <apw> davmor2, so now we need you to re-install the linux-image .deb for the latest release kernel which didn't work
[15:12] <davmor2> apw: the one from the repo's correct?
[15:12] <apw> you should find a copy of the .deb in /var/cache/apt/archives
[15:12] <apw> yes the one from the repos
[15:12] <apw> and again i want a pastbin of the output
[15:20] <davmor2> apw: grrrr it looks like it is installing the version that I install from ogasawara rather than the version from the repo :(  let me see if I can kill that and try again
[15:21]  * ogasawara back in 20
[15:43] <davmor2> apw: right installed linux-generic and linux-headers-generic which grabbed 3.0.0-7-generic from the repo,  no wifi,  Fatal: Module wl not found.   http://paste.ubuntu.com/654574/ was the install and /var/lib/dkms/ still has the bcmwl folder in it
[15:44] <apw> davmor2, ok whats in /var/lib/dkms/bcwml
[15:44] <davmor2> apw: the bcmwl folder only lists the 3.0.0-0300-generic-i686 kernel
[15:45] <apw> davmor2, what does dpkg -l | grep 3.0.0-7
[15:46] <apw> say
[15:46] <davmor2> apw: exact contents are 5.100.82.38+bdcom kernel-3.0.0-0300-generic-i686 for completeness
[15:47] <davmor2> apw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/654579/
[15:51] <apw> davmor2, ok what does "sudo /etc/kernel/postinst.d/dkms 3.0.0-7-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-7-generic"
[15:51] <apw> say
[15:52]  * apw notes this is looking like a dkms issue
[15:55] <davmor2> apw: doesn't say anything took ages and then went back to the command prompt
[15:56] <apw> and now whats in /var/lib/dkms/bcwml 
[15:56] <davmor2> apw: now the current kernel is listed
[15:56] <apw> davmor2, and if you wudo modprobe wl
[15:56] <apw> sudo even
[15:58] <davmor2> FATAL: Error inserting wl (/lib/modules/3.0.0-7-generic/updates/dkms/wl.ko): Invalid module format
[16:00] <smb> dmesg|tail 
[16:01] <davmor2> smb: last line reads wl: disadrees about version of symbol module layout
[16:01] <davmor2> disagrees even
[16:02] <apw> davmor2, are you rebooted onto the reinstalled kernel ?
[16:02] <davmor2> apw: I did
[16:02] <apw> cat /proc/version_signature
[16:03] <smb> and check what modinfo wl tells about version 
[16:04] <davmor2> apw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/654586
[16:04] <apw> davmor2, ^^ what smb said
[16:05] <davmor2> smb, apw: is that another sudo one?
[16:06] <apw> i suspect its fine either way
[16:06] <smb> davmor2, nope that should work even without but sudo does not hurt
[16:07] <davmor2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/654592/
[16:08]  * ppisati officialy hates how thunderbird format emails...
[16:09] <smb> The 3.0.0-0300-generic does not look right
[16:09] <apw> yeah that looks like dkms used the wrong headers wtf
[16:12] <apw> davmor2, could you pastebin /usr/lib/dkms/dkms_autoinstaller please
[16:13] <tgardner> ppisati, how broken do you think the latest TI BSP is, e.g., the version you are holding whilst on vacation ?
[16:15] <davmor2> apw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/654597/
[16:16] <apw> davmor2, ok ... that has the bug i was talking about, whuch must not be releaased yet
[16:16] <ogasawara> apw: what was that dkms bug #?
[16:16] <apw> bug  #812979
[16:16] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 812979 in dkms "Kernel modules are not built when the kernel is upgraded" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/812979
[16:16] <apw> ok that is the upstream bug
[16:17] <davmor2> apw: so that would explain it not building the package then correct, it did it's just the kernel couldn't use it,  is that the general gist?
[16:17] <apw> davmor2, one sec let me see if i can find a fixed dkms
[16:17] <apw> davmor2, u t
[16:18] <apw> davmor2, i think if you uninstall brcml-kernel-source and reinstall it, it will fix you current kernel version
[16:18] <apw> and i'll try and get a working dkms
[16:18] <davmor2> apw: give me a second
[16:25] <apw> davmor2, are you 32 or 64 bit
[16:26] <davmor2> apw: 32
[16:26] <davmor2> reinstalling works
[16:29] <apw> davmor2, sound good
[16:31] <davmor2> apw, ogasawara:  I'll add it as a work around incase anyone else hits it,  I don't know if you want to redirect the bug at dkms?
[16:31] <apw> davmor2, ok i think that the dkms .deb here will sort you out http://people.canonical.com/~apw/lp812979-oneiric-dkms/
[16:32] <ogasawara> davmor2: I'm gonna dupe your bug to the dkms one
[16:32] <davmor2> apw: cool I'll give it a go and see
[16:42]  * bjf -> fetching the boy
[16:46] <ppisati> tgardner: well, sound is still broken
[16:46] <ppisati> tgardner: and i guess we;ll get aniother update in these two weeks so...
[16:48] <tgardner> ppisati, I was just thinking that there may be other improvements that could use testing. Bryan or Ricardo could always help out if it really sucks, or I could just revert the whole thing until you return.
[17:11] <davmor2> ogasawara: I give up on finding a way to trigger the wifi being dropped for the RAlink driver as soon as I find one I'll let you know though :)
[17:11] <ogasawara> davmor2: ack
[17:11] <ogasawara> davmor2: definitely sounds like a hard to hit corner case, so I'm not going to worry about it much
[17:24]  * bjf -> pediatrician 
[17:46] <TREllis> any known issues booting the oneiric kernel on hp server hardware? I've opened http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/818177
[17:46] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 818177 in linux "HP DL380G5 does not see disks after upgrade to Oneiric" [Undecided,New]
[17:46] <TREllis> not seeing the local disk afaik
[17:49] <tgardner> TREllis, can you boot an oneiric CDROM ?
[17:50] <TREllis> tgardner: hmmm I've some how made it recover by booting without quiet and with INIT_VERBOSE set, might be a race condition I guess
[17:50] <TREllis> tgardner: can try that too yes
[17:51] <tgardner> TREllis, just trying to figure out if its a grub2 issue
[17:52] <TREllis> tgardner: ah ok
[17:55] <TREllis> tgardner: ok, will try the cd. After a reboot, I'm back to where I was before booting but RO / and not able to see the disks
[17:57] <tgardner> TREllis, are you perhaps missing a RAID driver from initrd ?
[17:57] <tgardner> or firmware for it ?
[18:01] <tgardner> hmm, cciss appears to be happy
[18:02] <TREllis> tgardner: I was reading http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=617891
[18:02] <ubot2> Debian bug 617891 in linux-base "initramfs-tools: HP G6 hardware kernel boot issue > 2.6.37 cciss/hpsa" [Normal,Fixed]
[18:02] <TREllis> cciss is moved to hpsa?
[18:03] <tgardner> TREllis, lemme check.
[18:03] <TREllis> hmm all new controllers only
[18:04] <TREllis> this is g5 server, so not that new, so maybe it's pciids are still linked to the cciss one
[18:04] <tgardner> you're definitely load cciss
[18:04] <tgardner> loading*
[18:06] <tgardner> TREllis, nope, hpsa doesn't service 103c:3234
[18:06] <TREllis> ok, good to know anyway
[18:06] <tgardner> better make its in cciss
[18:07] <tgardner> make sure*
[18:07] <tgardner> yep:        {PCI_VENDOR_ID_HP,     PCI_DEVICE_ID_HP_CISSC,     0x103C, 0x3234},
[18:13]  * tgardner --> lunch
[18:28] <TREllis> tgardner: hmm, dmesg seems to show that cciss loaded correctly and saw the disks 
[18:32] <TREllis> anyway, enough for the day, more debugging on Monday
[18:33] <TREllis> thanks tgardner 
[19:25]  * jjohansen -> lunch
[19:43]  * bjf is finally back
[19:52] <herton> sconklin: I think bug 816148 can be set now as duplicate of 813850 (also there is the similar bug  814323 for lucid, may be they all should be in one bug with nominations)
[19:52] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 816148 in linux "Sleep / Hibernate is broken, laptop just goes blank, get stuck, and only blinks numlock and capslock keys" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/816148
[19:52] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 814323 in linux "Virtualbox 4.1 (vboxdrv) Blocks Machine Suspend" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/814323
[19:53] <sconklin> herton: I agree. This seems to be specific to virtualbox, which loads a kernel driver. I'm not sure whether it's ABI skew or some other problem, but it seems to be related, in multiple series
[21:09]  * herton -> eow
[21:12]  * bjf notices lots of new bugs today
[22:56] <jjohansen> rebooting