jjesse | when did the history channel stop being about actual history? | 00:47 |
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jjesse | see my current g+ rantings about this | 00:51 |
Blazeix | back whenever Deadliest Catch and Ice Road Truckers started | 00:57 |
Blazeix | then it sort of collapsed into ghost stories | 00:57 |
jjesse | this one is about how aliens caused an ice age to get rid of the dinosaurs, impregnated humans and jesus was an alien | 00:58 |
brousch | snap-l: ug, this nanowar music is horrible | 01:06 |
brousch | i hates it | 01:06 |
rick_h_ | brousch: Error (404) | 01:16 |
rick_h_ | jjesse: about a year ago | 01:16 |
rick_h_ | jcastro: to raise it you press in on the round button of the arm at the joint | 01:20 |
rick_h_ | when you press it in, the arm will swing free and you can move it in stock increments | 01:20 |
jcastro | man | 01:20 |
jcastro | I must seriously be weak | 01:20 |
rick_h_ | this is what it doesn't give for the more expensive onces | 01:20 |
rick_h_ | it only moves in set amounts and only so far | 01:20 |
rick_h_ | yea, you've got to press them in | 01:21 |
jcastro | man | 01:22 |
jcastro | I might need to take the monitor off | 01:22 |
jcastro | and hammer it | 01:22 |
rick_h_ | well, just lift on it | 01:22 |
jcastro | even pulling up and mooshing it with all my strength | 01:22 |
rick_h_ | so the weight of the monitor isn't on it | 01:22 |
rick_h_ | once you get it on one you'll do it | 01:23 |
rick_h_ | it took me a few my first time if I recall | 01:23 |
brousch | hm, dropbox is misbehaving | 01:23 |
rick_h_ | I was doing stuff like turning the monitor | 01:23 |
rick_h_ | so that moving the two sing arms added/reduced some vertical levels | 01:23 |
rick_h_ | there's some room to tweak | 01:23 |
jcastro | yeah | 01:24 |
jcastro | I got it on the small ones | 01:24 |
jcastro | it's the 24 inch monster that's giving me heartache | 01:24 |
jcastro | I might need to wait for jill so I don't overcrush something | 01:24 |
brousch | rick_h_: try it now | 01:24 |
jcastro | feels like a 2 person job | 01:24 |
rick_h_ | ah yea, isn't it limited to 23" | 01:24 |
rick_h_ | 24 might be stretching those limits I guess | 01:25 |
rick_h_ | brousch: wtf?! | 01:25 |
rick_h_ | brousch: you RT me too much :P | 01:25 |
rick_h_ | make up your own posts :P | 01:25 |
brousch | hah | 01:25 |
jcastro | rick_h_: oh sonofa.... my FPW weighs 22 lbs | 01:25 |
jcastro | This whole time I was worried about jill's 23 being too heavy but it's fine | 01:26 |
rick_h_ | jcastro: ah, crazy | 01:26 |
jcastro | AHA! | 01:27 |
jcastro | the new 24 inch awesome dell is only .... 8.73 pounds! | 01:27 |
jcastro | I think it's obvious what needs to be done here | 01:27 |
jcastro | http://www.slashgear.com/dell-ultrasharp-u2412m-24-inch-ips-display-sells-for-399-26167465/ | 01:27 |
jcastro | you saw this right? | 01:27 |
rick_h_ | no, missed that. I was checking for a 22" ultrasharp though | 01:28 |
rick_h_ | but they weren't ips and had bad reviews | 01:28 |
jcastro | I have the 22's | 01:28 |
jcastro | they're nice side panels | 01:28 |
rick_h_ | I miss my good 20" ultrasharp I had, best looking display ever | 01:28 |
jcastro | not something I would want as my main panel | 01:28 |
rick_h_ | meh, they're all 1920 | 01:28 |
jcastro | I with with FPW for my main panel, and the cheaper E series ones for the side panels since they were like 200 bucks | 01:29 |
rick_h_ | so I'd prefer 21/22" at 1920 vs 24/27 | 01:29 |
jcastro | well, it's not my fault display manufactures stopped giving a shit | 01:29 |
jcastro | HDTV. :( | 01:29 |
rick_h_ | yea, no shit | 01:29 |
* rick_h_ grumbles about the res I had on my old 21" CRT | 01:29 | |
snap-l | brousch: Sorry that you didn't like Nanowar. | 01:32 |
brousch | np | 01:32 |
jcastro | rick_h_: they make a more heavy duty arm for bigger monitors right? | 01:32 |
rick_h_ | jcastro: I'm not sure, I don't think in this model | 01:32 |
jcastro | rick_h_: ok I might move that one back to a stand in the meantime | 01:33 |
snap-l | brousch: Some of the more popular CC metal I have to wonder about sometimes | 01:34 |
snap-l | seriously, some folks have som estrange taste in music | 01:34 |
* snap-l waits for someone to point the finger back at him. ;) | 01:34 | |
rick_h_ | heh, I wasn't going to say it | 01:35 |
snap-l | Although i went to Flipside last weekend and couldn't name half of their metal bands | 01:36 |
jjesse | this histroy show is epic | 01:36 |
snap-l | jjesse: You must tell me what this is | 01:37 |
jjesse | ancient aliens: the misson | 01:37 |
snap-l | FUCK YEAH | 01:37 |
snap-l | Fucking cook central | 01:37 |
jjesse | this is the GREATEST F#%()A#&%#% SHOW EVAR | 01:37 |
jjesse | new episode at 10pm helllllll yeah | 01:38 |
snap-l | So this is a new series, then | 01:38 |
jjesse | apparently? | 01:38 |
jjesse | I learned a lot tonight, Jesus was an alien raised after the humans killed him by alien technology | 01:39 |
jjesse | native americans had sex w/ aliens to create humans | 01:39 |
jjesse | and ancient crystal skulls contain gigabytes of data that when you put all 13 together form some kickass computer | 01:40 |
snap-l | Wow, they pulled out the stops | 01:40 |
jjesse | its epic | 01:40 |
jjesse | wonder where i can get a degree in ancient astronomy theroy | 01:40 |
jjesse | theory | 01:40 |
snap-l | The ones that I've seen say that if you filled one of the great pyramids with some gas, it'll act as some kind of flashlight | 01:40 |
jjesse | this was was way better | 01:41 |
snap-l | I think you just apply to BSU | 01:41 |
snap-l | Bull Shit University | 01:41 |
jjesse | its been since 8pm | 01:41 |
snap-l | Yeah, it's total crackpot nonsense. | 01:41 |
jjesse | if you have history channel you should put it on | 01:41 |
snap-l | We've been watching it on Netflix | 01:41 |
jjesse | awesome cowboys shot at an alien ship in texas | 01:41 |
jjesse | epic | 01:41 |
snap-l | I wouldn't directly pay for this shit. | 01:41 |
jjesse | its on in the hotel tonight | 01:42 |
jrwren | i'd like a 19" or 20" if its just 1920x1080 | 01:42 |
jrwren | 3 of those should be good. | 01:42 |
jjesse | do you guys know about the "zoo hypothesis" | 01:44 |
jjesse | apparently aliens are observing us like we observe animals in a zoo | 01:44 |
jrwren | it explains how obama fucked up so much. they made him do it. | 01:44 |
jjesse | damn those aliens | 01:45 |
jjesse | dude Jonah was trapped in a whale shapped vessel, not an actual whale | 01:53 |
jjesse | that explains so much | 01:53 |
greg-g | man, working two jobs isn't always all it's cracked up to be :) | 01:56 |
jjesse | snap-l i bet you can't wait for this season to show up on netflix | 01:56 |
snap-l | oh yeah | 01:56 |
jjesse | in case you didn't know aliens brought the moon and parked it in orbit | 01:57 |
greg-g | the things you learn on IRC | 01:57 |
snap-l | Sounds like it goes fulll-bore into crazytown. | 01:57 |
greg-g | and my mom said it wasn't good for anything | 01:57 |
jjesse | some idiot just said the moon was like george lucas's death stra | 01:58 |
jjesse | death star | 01:58 |
_stink_ | that would spice things up, at least | 01:58 |
jjesse | yeah it would be awesome | 01:58 |
snap-l | Sometimes I wonder if their "Research" materials are Alternate History gamebooks | 02:00 |
jjesse | they are now referencing the cowboys and aliens movie that comes out friday | 02:03 |
snap-l | http://e23.sjgames.com/item.html?id=SJG30-6521 | 02:03 |
snap-l | http://e23.sjgames.com/item.html?id=SJG31-2001 | 02:03 |
greg-g | rick_h_: which one is your g-voice, 810 or 248? | 02:19 |
brousch | ah, crap, i just read half of my talk at out-loud speed, and it took 10 minutes | 03:04 |
brousch | i'll have to talk slow | 03:05 |
snap-l | heh | 03:50 |
snap-l | ive had thr same oroblem | 03:51 |
TeamXlink | Whats better, 2.5gb RAM Dual Channel @ 400mhz or 3gb RAM Non-Dual Channel @ 400mhz or 3gb RAM Dual Channel @ 266mhz? | 05:56 |
TeamXlink | Which company has better Linux Driver support, ATI or NVidia, I'm not sure on the current status, but I know NVidia used to be the only one offering official Linux drivers, I'm unsure if that has changed or not. | 06:00 |
rick_h_ | greg-g: 248 is my gvoice | 11:24 |
Wolfger | <3 Gvoice | 11:25 |
Wolfger | morning | 11:26 |
rick_h_ | morning | 11:27 |
Wolfger | http://www.teefury.com/images/articles/1310254159_powerpig_side_art_02.jpeg | 11:52 |
greg-g | rick_h_: cool. I went through my old phone's phone book last night and transfer to g-contacts. all set to go now :) | 12:07 |
rick_h_ | greg-g: awesome | 12:08 |
snap-l | Good morning | 12:27 |
snap-l | Everyone enjoy the light show last night? | 12:27 |
rick_h_ | missed it | 12:27 |
rick_h_ | didn't know it rained until this morning | 12:28 |
snap-l | We had a lot of lightning outside around 4am | 12:28 |
snap-l | Yay, the coffeepot is not affected. ;) | 12:30 |
rick_h_ | yay | 12:32 |
Wolfger | enjoyed the show this morning | 12:33 |
Wolfger | oh, it would be horrible if a thunderstorm knocked out the coffee maker :-p | 12:33 |
snap-l | yes, yes it would have been | 12:34 |
snap-l | Wow, this ADP site for reporting time has an extremely hypnotic wait symbol | 12:43 |
snap-l | Changed over to Firefox, and apparently it isn't supported (but Chrome wasn't explicitly denied) | 12:46 |
Wolfger | <sigh> | 12:46 |
Wolfger | It's freaking 2011. Aren't we beyond "this site best viewed with" or "this site only viewable with" yet? | 12:47 |
snap-l | Yeah, have to use IE to access this site | 12:47 |
snap-l | Wow, this page is complete shit | 12:49 |
Wolfger | 'tis to be expected, when the page is browser-specific.... | 12:49 |
snap-l | Thing sounds like a woodchuck with turrets when it loads | 12:50 |
snap-l | click click click click clikc | 12:51 |
Wolfger | a woodchuck... with turrets? | 12:51 |
Wolfger | Army-issue woodchucks. | 12:51 |
snap-l | turrettes? | 12:52 |
snap-l | turrreueetuetuettuureuttuetreuttts? | 12:52 |
Wolfger | Ah | 12:52 |
Wolfger | the swearing syndrome :-p | 12:52 |
Wolfger | was watching some comedian (Tosh?) who pointed out nobody ever has polite Turrettes (or however the hell you spell it). Nobody is ever afflicted with blurting out compliments. | 12:53 |
greg-g | that you know of, maybe they just "pass" in society and are actually really well liked by everyone | 12:57 |
snap-l | "And in conclusion... NICESHOES... I think that..." | 12:57 |
greg-g | :) | 13:06 |
=== bmcmahon is now known as nullspace | ||
nullspace | oh wow DoD released their own linux distro | 13:15 |
greg-g | but they might be violating the terms of the GPL | 13:19 |
greg-g | there's a link to download an iso, but no links to the source | 13:19 |
greg-g | </license nerd moment> | 13:19 |
jrwren | rofl. | 13:20 |
Wolfger | meh. Come back to me when you *know* they're violating the GPL | 13:20 |
snap-l | Wolfger: What's the difference? | 13:20 |
greg-g | Wolfger: ok, Lemme go ask for the source and when they don't respond, I'll let you know. | 13:20 |
snap-l | If you know it in your heart, it must be true | 13:20 |
jrwren | http://www.ubuntu.com/download <-- no link to the source. | 13:20 |
jrwren | :) | 13:20 |
greg-g | jrwren: :P true true | 13:21 |
snap-l | that seems to be the modus operandi for the OCD license community | 13:21 |
jrwren | if they have /usr/share/*/README with links the source, its GPL OK, right? | 13:21 |
greg-g | there's actually been a (OMG way too long) thread on debian-legal about whether or not torrenting .isos is violating the GPL | 13:21 |
jrwren | really? | 13:21 |
jrwren | how in the hell is that violating the GPL? | 13:21 |
greg-g | yeah, really. | 13:21 |
greg-g | :( | 13:21 |
greg-g | no source available | 13:21 |
jrwren | sounds like the fudtastic get voiced too much | 13:22 |
jrwren | b.s. | 13:22 |
jrwren | source is available. | 13:22 |
greg-g | so, debian has their own torrent server with all of the source code available as a torrent, but no one is downloading it | 13:22 |
jrwren | sounds like them fools need a dictionary | 13:22 |
greg-g | :) | 13:22 |
snap-l | Because nobody needs the source in that form | 13:22 |
jrwren | nor wants it. | 13:22 |
snap-l | Well, what's really stupid are the folks who think they "know better" and add nothing to the conversation | 13:24 |
snap-l | E-mail threads tend to go like this: | 13:24 |
snap-l | 1) Semi-plausible claim | 13:24 |
snap-l | 2) Several pokes, one of which might be right | 13:25 |
snap-l | 3) Several more semi-plausible claims | 13:25 |
snap-l | 4) Someone who knows from whence they speak weighs in | 13:25 |
snap-l | 5) Several "That's counterintuitive" statements | 13:26 |
snap-l | 6) Pissing contest over what's correct vs what's intuitive | 13:26 |
snap-l | 7) Personal attacks | 13:26 |
snap-l | 8) Hitler | 13:26 |
jrwren | lol. excellent | 13:27 |
greg-g | that reminds me of this post from joey hess: http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/thread_patterns/ | 13:28 |
snap-l | greg-g: That is awesome. | 13:29 |
snap-l | Yeah, I love the blindingly obvious ones | 13:29 |
snap-l | usually followed by the "Would you please not 'Reply All'" | 13:30 |
snap-l | JoDee had one of those go viral at Macomb | 13:30 |
Wolfger | awesome | 13:31 |
Wolfger | snap-l: I think you should make an "8 stages of mailing list threads" blog post. | 13:31 |
snap-l | Went from some innocent, shouldn't-have-been-posted-to-this-list to several people claiming being on this list was a right of passage to work there, and if they didn't want to be on the list, maybe they sholdn't work there. | 13:31 |
Wolfger | preferably with solid examples :-) | 13:31 |
snap-l | Eventually causing the admins to employ the nuclear option. | 13:32 |
snap-l | Wolfger: Bah, no, thanks. | 13:32 |
Wolfger | drop rocks on it from low earth orbit | 13:32 |
greg-g | we just had an epic one at the U today, someone sent a message to EVERY SINGLE list they were one to say "I'm updating my email address, but change it for me please!" They emailed THOUSANDS of U-M Medical school staff and first responders, and then 4 others replied with similarly stupid responses. | 13:36 |
snap-l | Wolfger: Your wish is my command: http://decafbad.net/2011/07/29/the-8-stages-of-e-mail-threads/ | 13:36 |
snap-l | greg-g: yep | 13:37 |
greg-g | hah, you're quick snap-l | 13:37 |
Wolfger | he went from "bah, no thanks" to "here you go" in a very short amount of time | 13:37 |
greg-g | well, the solid examples part is still a "bah, no thanks" :) | 13:38 |
Wolfger | ah, I see | 13:38 |
Wolfger | I'm amazed I can still read snap-l's blog... Paul Graham's blog is blocked now. As is webchat. | 13:39 |
snap-l | Wolfger: Well, Paul Graham's blog gets people to think about what they're doing with life | 13:39 |
snap-l | I'm sure Zen Habits is also blocked, as is 43 folders. | 13:39 |
greg-g | not the best thing to have your employees doing | 13:39 |
Wolfger | very bad for corporate moral, true | 13:39 |
Wolfger | s/moral/morale/ even :-p | 13:40 |
snap-l | Also "I think we should rewrite our whole infrastructure in LISP" is not what you want to hear on a friday morning. | 13:40 |
Wolfger | I don't care what language they use (please, god, not Java), they just need to rewrite the infrastructure. | 13:41 |
Wolfger | and the structure, and the exostructure too :-p (am I just making shit up now? I bet there is an exostructure...) | 13:42 |
greg-g | sure, like ants | 13:43 |
brousch | i'm starting to freak out | 14:05 |
brousch | i don't think i'll have enough material to fill an hour | 14:05 |
jjesse | so take questions :P | 14:05 |
brousch | it's not really a technical talk | 14:05 |
brousch | i cannot rely on questions | 14:06 |
jjesse | animated gifs? | 14:06 |
brousch | i am making heavy use of them already ;) | 14:06 |
rick_h_ | brousch: don't have to fill an hour | 14:07 |
rick_h_ | really 40min | 14:07 |
brousch | i think i'll have 30mins | 14:07 |
rick_h_ | so you need 10min :) | 14:07 |
rick_h_ | sounds like demo time | 14:07 |
brousch | heh | 14:08 |
brousch | gotta finish the main part first ;) | 14:08 |
brousch | but yeah, i could throw up some flask-based projects | 14:08 |
Wolfger | stall a bit at the beginning and take questions at the end. Easy way to kill 10 minutes in two smaller chunks. :-) | 14:08 |
jrwren | what are you presenting? | 14:08 |
ColonelPanic001 | http://mashable.com/2011/07/29/internet-explorer-iq/ | 14:09 |
ColonelPanic001 | well, that's not surprising | 14:09 |
brousch | jrwren: mostly my experience discovering python and django | 14:09 |
snap-l | brousch: Wrost case, you let people out early. | 14:20 |
Wolfger | and if they leave early because they had no questions, that's on them :-D | 14:21 |
snap-l | Worry about the content, not about the space | 14:25 |
Wolfger | http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/96933/why-did-git-get-so-much-hype-while-others-dont | 14:42 |
rick_h_ | Wolfger: that thread is as good as the "Why do developers still use archaic editors from a command line when better tools exist?" thread | 14:43 |
Wolfger | :-) | 14:45 |
Wolfger | I wasn't even aware that a Git vs. Mercurial holy war existed. | 14:47 |
jrwren | it doesn't. | 14:50 |
jrwren | there are jihadists that will assure you that a war between christianity and islam is happening right now. | 14:51 |
jrwren | similar insanity | 14:51 |
Wolfger | jrwren: clearly it does exist, as evidenced by that thread (even if it never existed prior) | 14:53 |
rick_h_ | it's not so much a git vs Hg, but more a "My tool rocks! your tool sucks!" | 14:54 |
Wolfger | likewise, Christian and Muslim extremists killing people for religious reasons are proof that a holy war is going on... just with very limited "armies" | 14:54 |
jrwren | no, a war doesn't exist just because 2 people say it does. | 14:54 |
Wolfger | rick_h_: Right. Just like vim vs emacs. | 14:55 |
rick_h_ | meh, at this point I think most of that is just to keep our old jokes alive | 14:56 |
Wolfger | "war" is a loose term in the computer world.... no killing involved (so far as I know) | 14:56 |
rick_h_ | for me it's more about using vim/emacs gets you more respect than eclipse | 14:56 |
rick_h_ | etc | 14:56 |
Wolfger | yeah, well, you're fighting the cli vs gui holy war :-) | 14:56 |
rick_h_ | I run gvim :P | 14:56 |
Wolfger | *gasp* | 14:57 |
Wolfger | What I really want to know is, why does stackexchange even host "Programmers" when they never really discuss code at all? It should be "Geek Philosophy" based on the typical content. | 15:00 |
Wolfger | StackOverflow is programmers fo' realz | 15:00 |
Wolfger | and consequently often over my head, which I why I read the drivel on Programmers :-p | 15:01 |
jrwren | can I use vmbuilder to install oneric ? | 15:03 |
jrwren | lol | 15:03 |
jrwren | StackOverflow is over your head? | 15:03 |
jrwren | you should read more there then. its a great place to learn. | 15:04 |
jrwren | why doesn't help.ubuntu.com list the stackexchange site? | 15:10 |
Wolfger | jrwren: A lot of it is, yeah. I'm actually picking out Python questions now since I'm making an effort to learn Python. | 15:33 |
jrwren | is dive into python not a good learning tool anymore? | 15:37 |
Wolfger | I'm sure it's just as good as it ever was. | 15:39 |
Wolfger | It's one tool in the box | 15:40 |
Wolfger | Hell, I just *answered* a question on StackOverflow :-) | 15:40 |
jcastro | jrwren: just use testdrive | 15:43 |
jcastro | for your vmbuilder question | 15:43 |
jrwren | jcastro: thanks. | 15:46 |
jrwren | i didn't know about it. | 15:47 |
jrwren | knowing is more than half the battle | 15:47 |
jcastro | GI JOE! | 15:55 |
jcastro | jcastro: I'll write up an answer after lunch | 15:55 |
jcastro | I don't think vmbuilder's been updated | 15:55 |
jcastro | + testdrive is the way to go, it'll auto zsync your ISOs and just fire them up in KVM automagically | 15:55 |
jcastro | jrwren: you did it wrong | 15:57 |
jcastro | you should have posted that edit as your own answer | 15:57 |
jcastro | and then accept it | 15:57 |
Wolfger | greg-g: zomg, emacs violated GPL!!!one1! | 16:09 |
Wolfger | http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/07/29/1445252/Emacs-Has-Been-Violating-the-GPL-Since-2009?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29 | 16:09 |
Wolfger | Ugh. Sorry, that's a wretched URL paste. | 16:10 |
* jcastro plonks jrwren, yo, pay attention | 16:23 | |
jrwren | jcastro: yeah, i forget the SO rules WRT answering your own Question | 16:42 |
jrwren | you want me to update it? | 16:43 |
jcastro | jrwren: yeah | 16:43 |
jcastro | answering your own question is totally fine! | 16:43 |
jcastro | I'll fix up your answer | 16:43 |
jcastro | I need you to post it first tho | 16:44 |
jrwren | updated. | 16:46 |
jrwren | anybody have any broken PS2 Keyboard lying around? | 16:58 |
Wolfger | you wouldn't rather have a working one? | 16:59 |
Wolfger | regardless, I think mine was trashed/yardsaled/donated some time ago. | 16:59 |
jrwren | yeah, I should find a computer recycle place. | 16:59 |
jrwren | I just want the connector to cut off | 16:59 |
Wolfger | but I'll look this weekend and see if I do still have it | 17:00 |
Wolfger | what do you want next, a 5.25" floppy drive? | 17:01 |
Wolfger | :-) | 17:01 |
nullspace | 8" nothing less | 17:05 |
ColonelPanic001 | that's what sh... nevermind | 17:06 |
nullspace | nice | 17:06 |
Wolfger | rofl | 17:09 |
Wolfger | ColonelPanic001++ | 17:09 |
ColonelPanic001 | \o/ | 17:09 |
* Wolfger has never even seen an 8"... | 17:10 | |
ColonelPanic001 | I'll show you sometime | 17:13 |
Wolfger | Bring it Penguicon and show it off in the lobby. | 17:14 |
jrwren | i think i have a 5.25" aruond. | 17:15 |
jrwren | no... maybe no. | 17:15 |
ColonelPanic001 | excellent idea | 17:15 |
jrwren | ouch. kvm segfaults when I connect to it with VNC :( | 17:16 |
Wolfger | ColonelPanic001: on the night of the masquerade, you can carry it around under a trench coat and ask everybody if they'd like to see your "8-incher" | 17:18 |
Wolfger | and if they say yes, whip it out | 17:19 |
* Wolfger considers maybe this is being stretched a bit thin | 17:20 | |
ColonelPanic001 | heh | 17:20 |
ColonelPanic001 | that'd amuse me | 17:20 |
Wolfger | It's Friday. I'm stuck here for another 90 minutes-ish. I'm in "can't the weekend just START already?" mode. | 17:21 |
Wolfger | Already did my daily quota of Python skill building. Started getting overwhelmed with all the non-python crap I need to learn as well. | 17:22 |
Wolfger | the wx, the (possibly, haven't decided yet) sqlite.... | 17:23 |
Wolfger | ...the twitter api.... | 17:24 |
jrwren | i guess you know you are a real programmer when you scoff at the ease of learning those things. | 17:36 |
Wolfger | Well, I've already got a decent mock-up of my GUI done, when it occurs to me I haven't actually learned much at all about wx. I'm cut'n'pasting my way through it mostly. | 17:37 |
Wolfger | and I'm not satisfied with that | 17:37 |
Wolfger | It'd be nice if I could put together a code block without flipping back and forth to the internets for each line | 17:38 |
Wolfger | and everything (in the tutorials) has a -1 id passed to it, but nowhere does it explain why it's -1, or what that really means, and that annoys the crap out of me. | 17:45 |
Wolfger | if ID is always -1, why even bother having that parameter? That's 4 useless keystrokes per instance. | 17:47 |
rick_h_ | party! | 20:47 |
rick_h_ | hello from Ohio | 20:47 |
snap-l | Hello from PyOhio. :) | 20:49 |
nullspace | pfhhhhhhhh | 20:53 |
rick_h_ | who let the java speak? | 20:54 |
* rick_h_ looks for the java mute button :P | 20:54 | |
snap-l | Heh | 21:00 |
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