[01:13] <chris4585> hey wrst are you using gnome from the main repositories or aur?
[01:35] <wrst> chris4585: from the main
[01:37] <wrst> actually chris4585 i think its in the extra right now
[01:37] <wrst> but still the regular repos nothing special
[01:53] <chris4585> ah alright, its pretty stable but I've noticed that the items in the systray are only one icon, and right now it appears to be skype for me lol
[01:53] <chris4585> as stable as it is I've noticed a few things, but nothing major
[01:58] <wrst> with gnome shell?
[01:59] <wrst> yeah there are a few little quirks but nothin on line of how kde 4 was
[01:59] <wrst> when it first arrived
[02:00] <chris4585> yeah
[02:01] <chris4585> but I can actually say I'm getting more use to using my mouse to move to the edge of my screen to pick workspaces, then windows instead of the window list
[02:02] <chris4585> I have awn running though just in case I need them
[02:15] <wrst> i really like the layout and how things work
[02:15] <wrst> i do have my desktop where I can drop files on it however
[02:16] <wrst> i don't keep anything there but when working with multiple files that's where i put them
[02:17] <chris4585> wrst, yeah I enabled that
[02:17] <chris4585> it should be like that by default but meh I always have to work to get things how I like them so there's no point in complaining
[02:18] <wrst> and I have minimize maximize and close buttons
[02:18] <chris4585> same
[02:18] <wrst> i like what kde has with a widget for that have the best of both worlds
[02:21] <wrst> well chris4585 atleast package kit ask for a password to install new software just not to update for me
[02:23] <chris4585> yeah, same
[02:23] <chris4585> thats good imo, it was such a hassle to type my password just to update
[02:23] <chris4585> well since I was on alpha ubuntu anyway..
[02:23] <wrst> yeah I have no real complaints there
[02:23] <wrst> but with arch you do need to make sure you aren't updating certain things if you need your computer to function for sure
[02:24] <wrst> like the gnome 2 to gnome 3 upgrade or something
[02:24] <chris4585> anyway to prevent that for kernel's and nvidia automatically?
[02:24] <chris4585> I learned a long time that both of those will eventually screw the other one up...
[02:24] <wrst> somehow i'm sure but don't know how
[02:25] <chris4585> ah alright
[02:25] <wrst> chris4585: i've not had an issue one with that on my desktop
[02:25] <chris4585> you using nvidia?
[02:25] <wrst> yes on my desktop have intel on the laptop
[02:25] <chris4585> ah okay, well in the past I had not so fun experiences
[02:26] <wrst> i think that has improved
[02:26] <chris4585> I think the way arch is setup its so amazing, besides the manual editing of a few files
[02:27] <chris4585> at first I had a problem with internet and pacman, but I got it easily enough
[02:27] <chris4585> like right now I'm not entirely sure what I did wrong, but my time is not correct
[02:28] <chris4585> one thing I love is restarting gnome-shell by alt-f2 and typing r
[02:28] <chris4585> or reloading rather
[02:29] <wrst> yes that's a nice thing especially when messing with extensions
[12:17] <wrst> wb CosmicPizza
[12:37] <CosmicPizza> hey wrst
[12:41] <wrst> CosmicPizza: how are you doing?
[14:03] <wrst> morning Xpistos
[14:04] <Xpistos> HEY!
[14:21] <wrst> Xpistos: happy friday
[14:21] <Xpistos> I thought it was monday
[14:25] <Xpistos> I hate web apps with almost not install instructions
[14:38] <cyberanger> Xpistos: I hate web apps peroid
[14:39]  * cyberanger wishes it was monday
[14:41] <cyberanger> if it's in your posession, it's in your control
[14:45] <wrst> cyberanger: why do you wish for monday?
[14:50] <cyberanger> Some exciting possibilities in the job hunt opening up
[14:50] <cyberanger> and the sooner the better
[14:52] <cyberanger> Weekends are kinda pointless for a job hunter, means for the first time in my life I'm actually liking monday over friday
[14:52] <average_guy> cyberanger: you to eh?
[14:53] <average_guy> this is not the time to be looking for a job in America
[14:53] <cyberanger> average_guy: yeah, I'm only 21 too
[14:53] <cyberanger> the younger you are, worse it is
[14:54] <cyberanger> in a highly saturated feild
[14:54] <cyberanger> it's impossible
[14:55] <cyberanger> take what you get, anything you get
[14:58] <cyberanger> average_guy: I do freelance work, contract work, but that hurts when it slows or stops
[14:58] <cyberanger> hurts even more when a stable & secure job would benifit more
[15:00] <average_guy> I just miss working really.  Being home was fun at first....
[15:02] <average_guy> but being trapped in the house with a 4 yr old girl is maddening after a while
[15:09] <Xpistos> cyberanger: I just deleted the web app
[15:10] <cyberanger> Xpistos: that bad eh
[15:11] <Xpistos> couldn't get it to work. Looked for help and they had like nothing on their own site.
[15:11] <Xpistos> DONE!
[15:11] <Xpistos> average_guy: How we doing sir!
[15:11] <average_guy> Xpistos: Good morning!
[15:12] <cyberanger> Xpistos: what app
[15:12] <Xpistos> Odin
[15:13] <Xpistos> It is a web based comic management system
[15:19] <cyberanger> ah, obscure too, ouch
[15:20] <cyberanger> I used to joke that Ubuntu's documentation is a google search & a blog post (now I realize that's not a joke)
[15:28] <wrst> cyberanger: ubuntu's documentation is really bad
[15:32] <cyberanger> wrst has won the understatement of the year award
[15:32] <cyberanger> wrst: yeah, it's just disparable
[15:33] <wrst> cyberanger: i'm getting on a soap box here but Ubuntu woudl be better to have documentation than it would a lousy interface that everyone hates
[15:33] <cyberanger> I'm hoping I can squeeze that into our huge meeting in a week
[15:34] <wrst> and if they don't like how gnome is going and they are qt friendly move to kde as the default desktop
[15:34] <cyberanger> yeah, but maybe that's the way loco's like us can get approved
[15:36] <Xpistos> If something says it needs .Net 2.0 is there a chance I can run it with mono?
[15:38] <cyberanger> Xpistos: a chance, yes
[15:38] <cyberanger> a good chance, depends on the actual code
[15:39] <cyberanger> netflix calls DRM functions that don't (yet?) exist in mono
[16:13] <CosmicPizza> morning all
[17:19] <Xpistos> I need some help with this one - W: Failed to fetch http://us.sudo/dists/wget/universe/i18n/Index  No Hash entry in Release file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.sudo_dists_wget_universe_i18n_Index
[17:19] <Xpistos> I am getting a bunch of these when I try to update my wife's Natty
[19:13] <wrst> ok this is a good one: http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/web/07/29/internet.explorer.dumb/index.html?iref=NS1
[19:21] <Xpistos> Did you guys know there is a new humble indie bundle out?
[19:21] <Xpistos> http://www.humblebundle.com/
[19:21] <Xpistos> Crayon Physics Deluxe is awesome!
[20:01] <Xpistos> how would I tell clamscan to scan another computer on the network?
[20:01] <Xpistos> clamscan -ri 11.10.19.X:/
[20:01] <Xpistos> ?