[01:13] hey wrst are you using gnome from the main repositories or aur? [01:35] chris4585: from the main [01:37] actually chris4585 i think its in the extra right now [01:37] but still the regular repos nothing special [01:53] ah alright, its pretty stable but I've noticed that the items in the systray are only one icon, and right now it appears to be skype for me lol [01:53] as stable as it is I've noticed a few things, but nothing major [01:58] with gnome shell? [01:59] yeah there are a few little quirks but nothin on line of how kde 4 was [01:59] when it first arrived [02:00] yeah [02:01] but I can actually say I'm getting more use to using my mouse to move to the edge of my screen to pick workspaces, then windows instead of the window list [02:02] I have awn running though just in case I need them [02:15] i really like the layout and how things work [02:15] i do have my desktop where I can drop files on it however [02:16] i don't keep anything there but when working with multiple files that's where i put them [02:17] wrst, yeah I enabled that [02:17] it should be like that by default but meh I always have to work to get things how I like them so there's no point in complaining [02:18] and I have minimize maximize and close buttons [02:18] same [02:18] i like what kde has with a widget for that have the best of both worlds [02:21] well chris4585 atleast package kit ask for a password to install new software just not to update for me [02:23] yeah, same [02:23] thats good imo, it was such a hassle to type my password just to update [02:23] well since I was on alpha ubuntu anyway.. [02:23] yeah I have no real complaints there [02:23] but with arch you do need to make sure you aren't updating certain things if you need your computer to function for sure [02:24] like the gnome 2 to gnome 3 upgrade or something [02:24] anyway to prevent that for kernel's and nvidia automatically? [02:24] I learned a long time that both of those will eventually screw the other one up... [02:24] somehow i'm sure but don't know how [02:25] ah alright [02:25] chris4585: i've not had an issue one with that on my desktop [02:25] you using nvidia? [02:25] yes on my desktop have intel on the laptop [02:25] ah okay, well in the past I had not so fun experiences [02:26] i think that has improved [02:26] I think the way arch is setup its so amazing, besides the manual editing of a few files [02:27] at first I had a problem with internet and pacman, but I got it easily enough [02:27] like right now I'm not entirely sure what I did wrong, but my time is not correct [02:28] one thing I love is restarting gnome-shell by alt-f2 and typing r [02:28] or reloading rather [02:29] yes that's a nice thing especially when messing with extensions [12:17] wb CosmicPizza [12:37] hey wrst [12:41] CosmicPizza: how are you doing? [14:03] morning Xpistos [14:04] HEY! [14:21] Xpistos: happy friday [14:21] I thought it was monday [14:25] I hate web apps with almost not install instructions [14:38] Xpistos: I hate web apps peroid [14:39] * cyberanger wishes it was monday [14:41] if it's in your posession, it's in your control [14:45] cyberanger: why do you wish for monday? [14:50] Some exciting possibilities in the job hunt opening up [14:50] and the sooner the better [14:52] Weekends are kinda pointless for a job hunter, means for the first time in my life I'm actually liking monday over friday [14:52] cyberanger: you to eh? [14:53] this is not the time to be looking for a job in America [14:53] average_guy: yeah, I'm only 21 too [14:53] the younger you are, worse it is [14:54] in a highly saturated feild [14:54] it's impossible [14:55] take what you get, anything you get [14:58] average_guy: I do freelance work, contract work, but that hurts when it slows or stops [14:58] hurts even more when a stable & secure job would benifit more [15:00] I just miss working really. Being home was fun at first.... [15:02] but being trapped in the house with a 4 yr old girl is maddening after a while [15:09] cyberanger: I just deleted the web app [15:10] Xpistos: that bad eh [15:11] couldn't get it to work. Looked for help and they had like nothing on their own site. [15:11] DONE! [15:11] average_guy: How we doing sir! [15:11] Xpistos: Good morning! [15:12] Xpistos: what app [15:12] Odin [15:13] It is a web based comic management system [15:19] ah, obscure too, ouch [15:20] I used to joke that Ubuntu's documentation is a google search & a blog post (now I realize that's not a joke) [15:28] cyberanger: ubuntu's documentation is really bad [15:32] wrst has won the understatement of the year award [15:32] wrst: yeah, it's just disparable [15:33] cyberanger: i'm getting on a soap box here but Ubuntu woudl be better to have documentation than it would a lousy interface that everyone hates [15:33] I'm hoping I can squeeze that into our huge meeting in a week [15:34] and if they don't like how gnome is going and they are qt friendly move to kde as the default desktop [15:34] yeah, but maybe that's the way loco's like us can get approved [15:36] If something says it needs .Net 2.0 is there a chance I can run it with mono? [15:38] Xpistos: a chance, yes [15:38] a good chance, depends on the actual code [15:39] netflix calls DRM functions that don't (yet?) exist in mono [16:13] morning all [17:19] I need some help with this one - W: Failed to fetch http://us.sudo/dists/wget/universe/i18n/Index No Hash entry in Release file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.sudo_dists_wget_universe_i18n_Index [17:19] I am getting a bunch of these when I try to update my wife's Natty [19:13] ok this is a good one: http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/web/07/29/internet.explorer.dumb/index.html?iref=NS1 [19:21] Did you guys know there is a new humble indie bundle out? [19:21] http://www.humblebundle.com/ [19:21] Crayon Physics Deluxe is awesome! [20:01] how would I tell clamscan to scan another computer on the network? [20:01] clamscan -ri 11.10.19.X:/ [20:01] ?