[00:00] <antihero> thing is the nouveau-firmware package DOES NOT provide the firmware for nouveau to actually run on most current bloody cards.
[00:00] <edbian> antihero: I'd just like to figure out a way to get that driver OUT!
[00:00] <edbian> :P
[00:00] <antihero> edbian: Yeah I want to get back to the goood old nvidia module
[00:00] <antihero> that actually works
[00:00] <ghostnik11> edbian: the first line with /boot up to quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[00:00] <edbian> ghostnik11: yes
[00:00] <edbian> antihero: :/
[00:01] <ghostnik11> edbian, thanks
[00:01] <edbian> ghostnik11: sure
[00:02] <antihero> imma try reboot again
[00:02] <antihero> I physically moved the ko file out
[00:02] <edbian> antihero: It'll probably just crash
[00:02] <edbian> hahaha
[00:03] <TBotNik> All:  Those of you who have been following my delimna on WiFi bridging can join the discussion on ##networking. Thanks!
[00:04] <edbian> antihero: There is a #nouveau channel
[00:04] <antihero> edbian: managed to get rid of it
[00:04] <antihero> moved it from /usr/lib/modules
[00:04] <edbian> yyyaaaaaayyyyy!!!! \o/
[00:04] <antihero> or /lib/modules or whatever
[00:05] <antihero> and also blacklisted i and did update initrd or wahatever it was
[00:05] <edbian> antihero: Did it load your other driver?
[00:05] <antihero> edbian: it did :)
[00:05] <edbian> antihero: yay
[00:06] <BASHn00b> hey guys
[00:07] <BASHn00b> good idea or bad idea, trying to get a cute girl a job working with me as a sort of Jr. Jr. system admin
[00:07] <BASHn00b> I'm a database admin
[00:08] <cSquall> @Bashn00b if you have to ask, I think you already know the answer...
[00:08] <BASHn00b> but I could get her a job doing shit like repairing apache and exim file systems
[00:08] <BASHn00b> touche sir, touche
[00:08] <edbian> !ot
[00:08] <edbian> BASHn00b: do it
[00:08] <BASHn00b> I really would like to dump my tables in her database though if you know what i mean ^_~
[00:10] <Hamradio2008> Can someone please tell me how to share my Ubuntu computer into a Windows 7 network "homegroup" I have a home group character string that I entered into the my second windows machine and they can see each others harddrives  I want to also share my ubuntu computers hardrive into the windows 7 "homegroup" ???
[00:11] <edbian> Hamradio2008: it's not simple.  samba is the solution :)
[00:11] <BASHn00b> or tortoise
[00:12] <JoeR1> Hey I need to know where the installed programs folder in is Ubuntu
[00:12] <JoeR1> I need the path
[00:13] <BASHn00b> well, any subversion to subversion setup
[00:13] <BASHn00b> so like
[00:13] <edbian> JoeR1: There isn't one per se.  Things mostly go into /usr/bin/
[00:13] <BASHn00b> http://tortoisesvn.net/ on your windows machine and hook it to  Eclipse or Netbeans on your linux machine
[00:13] <felipe_Brz> I've created a new user on my server. I've added it to the 'admin' user group, and I've added it to the list of 'sudoers' through visudo. However, I'm still not able to do stuff like remove a directory using 'rm'. What am I doing wrong?
[00:14] <edbian> felipe_Brz: are you using sudo rm ??
[00:14] <JoeR1> well specifically I am looking for the Google Earth folder to modify some settings
[00:14] <K-Rich> felipe_, rm -rf <directory>
[00:15] <K-Rich> also did the user log out and back in ?
[00:15] <edbian> JoeR1: /home/you/.google-earth  (my guess at the folder name) it's hidden
[00:15] <Hamradio2008> Just for fun This is my Ubuntu computer booting from SSD  see youtube ...   http://youtu.be/iAs9J0fekT4
[00:15] <JoeR1> it shouldn't be hidden because I am logged in as root
[00:15] <felipe_Brz> edbian:  K-Rich:  I would like it not to require a passwd... I've just thought of something though, I'll try it now
[00:16] <Cas07> JoeR1: the program should be located in /opt/google
[00:16] <edbian> JoeR1: Some files are hidden for every user (root or otherwise)  you can see them using ls -a or turning on hidden files in view hidden files in nautilus.  You should not be logged in as root in ubuntu.
[00:16] <K-Rich> ummmmm there is a way to do that one sec i have notes on it, had to make a tweak so all users could you my proprietary scanner
[00:17] <JoeR1> edbian - I may not know the folder structure for linux but I assure you i am no fool, I am viewing hidden files
[00:18] <edbian> JoeR1: I guessed at the name.  I may be wrong.  Do you see the other .stuff folders?
[00:18] <felipe_Brz> edbian: I would like this user not to require a password to do 'sudo' stuff because I'll be using it in Filezilla to upload files... Does that mean I have to add it to the 'sudo' group instead? Since  that's the group I can remove password need for, via 'visudo'??
[00:18] <edbian> felipe_Brz: I'm not sure.  I've never done that.  I'm worried that doing so might be a security vulnerability
[00:19] <K-Rich> felipe_, i have it so all users can run one command as sudoer, the way i did it was 'ALL ALL=NOPASSWD: <command goes here, nexxt command, net etc seperated by comma>'>
[00:19] <BASHn00b> uh... not putting a pass on the super user
[00:19] <BASHn00b> bad idea
[00:19] <K-Rich> should be like 'user ALL=NOPASSWD: <command>'
[00:19] <BASHn00b> especally if its connected to a network
[00:19] <JoeR1> edbian - Cas07 had the correct answer, thank you both
[00:19] <iosolidar> my burner doesn't work, i keep getting a "MEDIA: closed or not recordable"
[00:19] <iosolidar> error*
[00:19] <bobweaver_> anyone here want to help me out with some cli stuff
[00:20] <bobweaver_> I need to move some files and rename them
[00:20] <edbian> JoeR1: sure
[00:20] <felipe_Brz> Yeah.. I don't like it either but I think Filezilla requires a user with all the possible control so that it can browse folders and change folders too
[00:20] <K-Rich> bobweaver_, man mv, it does both
[00:21] <BASHn00b> Filezilla just runs off folder permissions like anything else
[00:22] <Juv1228> hello, can someone help me out? im trying to do something similar to http://www.linuxscrew.com/2007/09/06/local-and-remote-x-sessions-on-different-consoles/
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> bobweaver_: mv will rename the file for you
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> bobweaver_: mv name newname
[00:23] <Juv1228> if i execute that in console 7 (minus xinit) it works and i get both gui's mashed on top of eachother
[00:23] <BASHn00b> are you running vsftpd ?
[00:23] <iosolidar> http://pastebin.com/LDVqjDpG
[00:23] <Juv1228> if i ctrl-alt-f1 and try it from cmd line it gives me various errors
[00:23] <iosolidar> this is brasero's log
[00:24] <BASHn00b> felipe?
[00:24] <ghostnik11> can anyone tell me how to tell grub2 to place it self in its root partition
[00:24] <bobweaver_> so I need to copy the file ~/.config/munus/applications-kdemenuedit    to  /etc/xdg/application-merged/ then rename it to applications-local.menu
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> iosolidar: what are you burning?
[00:25] <bobweaver_> so there are two of the files just named different things
[00:25] <iosolidar> bobweaver_: cp -R ~/.config/munus/applications-kdemenuedit    to  /etc/xdg/application-merged/applications-local.menu
[00:25] <iosolidar> ActionParsnip: an ISO image
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> bobweaver_: sudo cp ~/.config/munus/applications-kdemenuedit /etc/xdg/application-merged/applications-local.menu
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> iosolidar: did you MD5 test the image as good?
[00:25] <bobweaver_> thanks guys
[00:26] <iosolidar> i can't find an MD5 hash in the ubuntu site and i tried it a couple of times with different imags (which i know are good)
[00:26] <iosolidar> images*
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> iosolidar: what isthe filename, i'll find you the hash
[00:27] <iosolidar> ActionParsnip: ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[00:27] <ghostnik11> can grub2 even be placed in its root partition
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> iosolidar: 7de611b50c283c1755b4007a4feb0379
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> !hashes | iosolidar
[00:27] <ionite> why is natty laggy on my system? how can i make it run on optimal mode?
[00:28] <iosolidar> ActionParsnip: thanks i'll check it now
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> ionite: what video chip?
[00:29] <iosolidar> ActionParsnip: as i suspected the disk is OK
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> iosolidar: well, the image.
[00:29] <iosolidar> yep :D
[00:29] <q_> hello
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> iosolidar: have you tried a different burning app?
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> hi q_
[00:29] <q_> hi
[00:30] <iosolidar> yep... i've install pretty much anything that matched "burning" in the software center
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> iosolidar: even xfburn?
[00:30] <iosolidar> yep
[00:30] <iosolidar> its different errors though
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> iosolidar: did you burn as slowly as allowed?
[00:30] <iosolidar> yes
[00:30] <ionite> ActionParsnip: GeForce 5500
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> iosolidar: do you have free space on your system
[00:31] <iosolidar> ActionParsnip: yes
[00:31] <iosolidar> ActionParsnip: do you think it might be a hardware problem?
[00:31] <pdtpatrick> Question .. openvpn cannot see my user.keys file. Any suggestions?
[00:31] <ionite> ActionParsnip: is it because of my video card that's causing the visual lag?
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> ionite: http://www.pc-freak.net/blog/how-to-install-nvidia-geforce-fx-5500-on-ubuntu-11-04/
[00:32] <K-Rich> anyone know of a way to get hulu desktop to stop slowing down and freeing?
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> ionite: the video hardware draws the screen
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> iosolidar: possibly, do you have an external burner (or can you fit a different burner to the system)
[00:32] <wangxz> 大家好
[00:33] <iosolidar> not now.. (its 3 am here) but maybe tomorrow
[00:33] <ionite> ActionParsnip: thanks. btw, i managed to install natty sucessfully but i'm having a hard time locating drivers for natty. such as my java. i tried software centre but it didn't install the latest java.
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> ionite: the guide shows that you need the 173 driver, install it and it wil work fine :)
[00:34] <bobweaver_> Premissions ?    # sudo cp /home/tester/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu  /etc/xdg/application-merged/applications-local.menu
[00:34] <bobweaver_> cp: cannot create regular file `/etc/xdg/application-merged/applications-local.menu': No such file or directory
[00:35] <ghostnik11> can i install grub with this command to my root partition: grub-install /dev/sda1
[00:35] <ionite> ActionParsnip:  i typed it it says permission denied. and prompt me if i am root.
[00:36] <ghostnik11> or can grub 2 be installed with that command
[00:36] <felipe_Brz> I would like some commands (like mkdir) not to require sudo permission anymore. Is that possible?
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> ionite: you need to run:   sudo -i   first
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> felipe_Brz: yes it's possible
[00:37] <tripelb> hello. I'd like to get help on setting my new-to-me monitor. I set things in the Nvidia x-server settings. Wot, did I do something wrong? I get • MetaMode 15 of Screen 0 is the same as MetaMode 1.  All MetaModes must be unique. (One monitor, 10.04) - what to do not clear.
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> felipe_Brz: it will need sudo and only sudoers will be able to do it but it won't require a password
[00:38] <iosolidar> ActionParsnip: thanks for the help and good night :)
[00:38] <ionite> ActionParsnip: it says command not found
[00:38] <JoeR1> Ok mew question, I am trying to set a different value for the font sized used by google earth for the GUI, anyone know where I might find that?
[00:38] <jen> question
[00:38] <jen> will itunes work on natty?
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> ionite: there is a space between sudo and -i
[00:39] <tripelb> I autofixed what it said and then saved it to config file and then nothing changed. (I have a floating box that says out of range and I have a not correct aspect ratio.
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> jen: some versions work in some versions of wine
[00:39] <ionite> ActionParsnip: the sudo -i worked but not the command for the nvidia
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> jen: check the appdb
[00:39] <jen> I plan on getting an ipod touch
[00:39] <felipe_Brz> ActionParsnip: hmmm... I think what I really want is for a command not to require passwords, OR sudo
[00:39] <jen> Im on my cousins dumb windows computor
[00:39] <felipe_Brz> ActionParsnip:  is that feasible?
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> ionite: you just need: sudo apt-get install nvidia-173     and you'll be fine
[00:39] <tripelb> jen afaik there is no itunes for linux.
[00:39] <jen> I was just wondering for now
[00:40] <jen> tripelb: well there is other things that can make it work right?
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> jen: the appdb may be able to tell you
[00:40] <JoeR1> jen I think there are Itunes equivilents but I think I read something about apple cutting linux support
[00:40] <jen> ActionParsnip: the who?
[00:40] <jen> aww man
[00:40] <jen> X_X
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> felipe_Brz: they will need to be in the admin group to use sudo, then the app will not ask for a password, you will lose all user control
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> jen: websearch it, you'll see
[00:41] <tripelb> well jen I dont know. I am assuming you mean- will make the ipod music communicate with a linux OS.
[00:41] <tripelb> jen, maybe you can run itunes in a mac emulator
[00:41] <jen> yes, I seen rythombox will?
[00:41] <JoeR1> jen - are you wanting the itues store or just the ability to transfer music
[00:41] <jen> ability to transfer apps and music
[00:41] <sparc_> Is there some "Right" way of checking whether a service is up?   I was just going to pgrep, but I thought maybe init kept a running tally of what's running, and what's not.
[00:41] <tripelb> she has the itunes store thru the ipod jen joer1
[00:42] <JoeR1> jen - you should be able to do that with programs from the software center
[00:42] <jen> say what?
[00:42] <ionite> ActionParsnip: do i need to restart updating?
[00:42] <jen> ok
[00:42] <jen> I want the texting app
[00:42] <ionite> ActionParsnip: i mean restart after updating?
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> ionite: read the guide
[00:42] <ssssssssssssssss> hi, how do I identify wich things are usin my internet, I found that theres python2.7 listening on port 8080, why?
[00:42] <gnewb> jen: Here is the Psychocats page on itunes: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/itunes < still looking for offiial docs....
[00:42] <jen> I have never mess with an ipod
[00:42] <bastidrazor> sparc_: service servicename status
[00:42] <sparc_> bastidrazor: thank you
[00:43] <bastidrazor> sparc_: you're welcome.
[00:43] <tripelb> I am still trying to set this monitor so I dont have an outofrange box floating. Do I have to reboot after changing the monitor?
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> jen: no bad thing at all :D
[00:43] <jen> ?
[00:43] <jen> what do you mean
[00:43] <JoeR1> jen - I detest apple so I can offer little information about the apps or the functionality of an Ipod but I know there are programs in the repositories that will work for most of what the average ipod user will do
[00:44] <tripelb> jen you want to be able to take music from your linux computer to your ipod and vice versa. Is this correct?
[00:44] <jen> yes and apps
[00:44] <ionite> ActionParsnip: i was prompted error so such device
[00:45] <tripelb> jen I'm not trying to tell you can use things other than an ipod. that's what joer1 is telling you. True or not it doesnt answer your question. ATM I dont know.
[00:45] <K-Rich> tripelb, logout, CTRL-F1, login to console, 'sudo restart gdm', CTRL-D to logout of console, the ALT-F7 i think (or ALT-F8) to go back to GDM with new settings
[00:45] <JoeR1> now again i ask, is there anyone that can offer insight into changing the gui font size used by google earth 6?
[00:45] <K-Rich> s/CTRL-F1/CTRL-ALT-F1
[00:45] <jen> I cannot do anything right now because Im on a dumb windows computor
[00:45] <jen> semi dumb
[00:45] <jen> it has photoshop
[00:45] <JoeR1> I do often wonder why people voice such a dislike of windows
[00:46] <tripelb> K-Rich, I dont understand what that is doing. Why do I have to do all that? I need to understand. I've not had to do that before when I switch monitors. And what is GDM?
[00:46] <jen> I NOW like linux better
[00:46] <JoeR1> and jen - it is spelled computer
[00:46] <jen> I always misspell it
[00:46] <tripelb> jen all systems are fine. They have pros and conts. and I can spell computador any way I please if you understand me.
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> ionite: you will need to reboot to apply the driver
[00:47] <JoeR1> I am sometimes a spelling nazi so don't read too much into it jen
[00:47] <jen> I do waht I wnat
[00:47] <jen> XD
[00:47] <jen> but thanks for you help
[00:47] <jen> I will prolly ask for more help when I get there
[00:47] <ionite> ActionParsnip: i mean after i typed modprobe nvidia-173, it tells me error inserting device
[00:48] <tripelb> jen can I pm you?
[00:48] <jen> sure
[00:48] <soupeee> natty narwhal-1104 here, seem to have lost my little volume widget. There's a speaker image but just three dots coming out of it. Anybody know what to look for. I've got ALSA set up and I can hear mplayer ok, it's the desktop that has know vol control.
[00:48] <JoeR1> so is there anyone that can shed light on the google earth gui font size question?
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> ionite: just reboot and it wil work
[00:49] <jen> umm
[00:50] <JoeR1> so is there anyone that can shed light on the google earth gui font size question? if not a solid "no" would be a good way to get me to look elsewhere
[00:50] <jen> where is my pchat spos to pop up?
[00:51] <lapaga> JoeR1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1163075
[00:51] <JoeR1> jen - what chat client are you using?
[00:51] <jen> I got on here from ashleys google chrome browser
[00:51] <soupeee> natty narwhal-1104 here, seem to have lost my little volume widget. There's a speaker image but just three dots coming out of it. Anybody know what to look for? I've got ALSA set up and I can hear mplayer ok, it's the desktop that has no vol control.
[00:52] <jen> Im on freenode ubuntu channel
[00:52]  * soupeee me too
[00:52] <chaddy> me 3
[00:52] <JoeR1> lapaga, yes I have seen similar threads, however these seem related to older versions of google earth
[00:53] <gnewb> !sound | soupeee
[00:53] <JoeR1> lapaga, specifically they do not seem to work with my version
[00:54] <balaji_> Is current consumption of cpu related to cpu usage?
[00:54] <soupeee> ubottu: thanks
[00:54]  * soupeee goin in ...
[00:55] <jen> tripelb: did you want to talk to me>
[00:56] <lapaga> JoeR1: is  mscorefonts installed?
[00:56] <JoeR1> lapaga, specifically they do not seem to work with my version
[00:56] <JoeR1> lapaga, I do not know, one moment
[00:56] <vahnx> anyone firmillar with toggling the boot flag and why would it cause complete data loss on a bootable osx86 usb?
[00:57] <ionite> ActionParsnip: after i enter: 'service gdm stop' i couldn't do anything.
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> ionite: could just reboot, it'll do it all for you
[00:58] <ionite> ActionParsnip: what command do i type to reboot?
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> ionite: sudo reboot
[00:58] <JoeR1> lapaga, yes, it was already installed before google earth
[00:58] <ionite> now my screen resolution and i can't change the resolution on my monitor preferences
[00:58] <ionite> ActionParsnip: now my screen resolution and i can't change the resolution on my monitor preferences
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> ionite: use nvidia-settings
[00:59] <JoeR1> lapaga, I have to go do somethings, I shall continue later
[00:59] <lapaga> JoeR1: good luck
[00:59] <ionite> ActionParsnip: there's no nvidia-settings in my preferences
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> ionite: then install it. It should have come down with the nvidia-173 driver
[01:05] <abtexas> Hi all
[01:05] <DasEi> !undelete > converge
[01:05] <abtexas> I am new to linux world and wanted to get into this some how
[01:06] <abtexas> Is there any one from Texas in here ?
[01:07] <abtexas> and how do i switch servers ?
[01:07] <converge> DasEi: thnks, but i think ill kill myself
[01:07] <converge> DasEi: i was working 2 months on it
[01:07] <DasEi> converge: ouch
[01:08] <converge> DasEi: i have a backup, last week i think but i already did so much :(
[01:08] <tyler_d> I cannot get x to load with the nvidia xorg.conf file I just made.... GdmLocalDisplayFactory: maximum number of X display failures reached don't know what file to tail in order to get more detailed logs, however would appreciate any help please?
[01:08] <abtexas> Is this the only chat room i can joing ?
[01:09] <tyler_d> abtexas: no there are thousands out there?
[01:09] <tyler_d> !vague
[01:09] <DasEi> converge: thing rm kills the header which sometimes can be restored, if the body of the file isn't overwritten;  good practise is not rm but mv to a folder trash ;)
[01:09] <abtexas> how do i find them ?
[01:09] <nit-wit> abtexas, it isa Ubuntu channel per-say try #linux
[01:09] <mel> im running 32-bit natty on a 64 bit processor. it's a new laptop and i didn't think to check what kind of processor it was before i installed. im getting a few issues i thought might be attributed to this. for example, saving a file in gedit takes approx. 2 seconds as opposed to a fraction of a second etc...
[01:09] <mel> would this be caused by that?
[01:09] <converge> DasEi: i was about do a new backup
[01:09] <tjiggi_fo> abtexas, /join #ubuntu-us-tx
[01:10] <nit-wit> abtexas, there is a server channel as well unless server=  regular install to you. ;)
[01:10] <tyler_d> hrmm, should have been /list or such
[01:11] <tjiggi_fo> tyler_d, /msg alis list foo
[01:11] <ionite> ActionParsnip: i am stuck at a screen which says many [OK] and one [Fail]
[01:12] <tyler_d> tjiggi_fo: good to know. I typically just join #whatever-im-looking-for and it usually exists :)
[01:12] <tyler_d> back in a sec after I break this some more
[01:13] <BitWraith> I'm looking at a ubuntu box that is giving me a very strange error when I attempt to apply updates. "dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0000' near line 1: newline in field name `[timestamps]' "
[01:13] <BitWraith> How should I fix that?
[01:17] <ionite> ActionParsnip: i am stuck at a screen which says many [OK] and one [Fail]
[01:17] <bmanplus2> anybody have a minute to help with ppa issues
[01:18] <BitWraith> I've tried "sudo apt-get update," that failed
[01:18] <soupeee> natty narwhal-1104 here, what's a good volume ctrl app, something with a small footprint?
[01:19] <DasEi> bmanplus2: details ?
[01:19] <Kresnic> anyone knows any info on LOIC?
[01:20] <ionite> can anyone help me with my video card update? geforce fx 5500
[01:21] <xrfang> I wonder how mature is the ppa of gnome-3 team. is it safe to try gnome-3 on 11.04 now?
[01:21] <soupeee> Since I'm using the new Unity desktop, what's a good vol ctrl for it? I guess gnome's out?
[01:21] <DasEi> Kresnic: #ubuntu-offtopic maybe
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> xrfang: it's not stable or advised
[01:21] <xrfang> thanks ActionParsnip.
[01:22] <Gunz4MiPPle> ionite: does that use the classic (96.*) drivers?
[01:22] <Gunz4MiPPle> if so, it wont work with natty
[01:22] <beatriz-ubuntu-p>  A R G E N T I NA ??
[01:22] <ionite> Gunz4MiPPle: how do i see if it's 96 or 86?
[01:23] <bmanplus2> DasEi W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net natty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5A9A06AEF9CB8DB0
[01:23] <bmanplus2> W: Failed to fetch http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/dists/stable/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[01:23] <bmanplus2> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[01:23] <CaptWho> does a non-buggy version of a netbook operating system exist.  the latest version of ubuntu seems to run normally on it aside from numerous window problems.  i installed easypeasy and it's seriously buggy
[01:23] <Gunz4MiPPle> go to the nvidia driver download site and see which drivers they recomend
[01:23] <DasEi> bmanplus2: np, second
[01:23] <Gunz4MiPPle> ionite: go to the nvidia driver download site and see which drivers they recomend
[01:24] <ionite> Gunz4MiPPle: thanks
[01:24] <Gunz4MiPPle> ionite: the older style pc cards dont work with natty due to nvidia not updating the drivers to work with the new version of the x server
[01:24] <nit-wit> CaptWho, the regular ubuntu release looks like netbookversion unty it is.
[01:24] <DasEi> bmanplus2: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 5A9A06AEF9CB8DB0 && sudo apt-get update &&& sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:25] <nit-wit> CaptWho,  just installed pinguy os it has a interesting setup.
[01:26] <ionite> Gunz4MiPPle: why can't this command work? 'sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.12-pkg1.run' it says to me can't open
[01:26] <beatriz-ubuntu-p> canal ARGENTINA , para ubunteros argentinos}
[01:26] <DasEi> !br
[01:27] <DasEi> err
[01:27] <Gunz4MiPPle> ionite: u might need to 'chmod +x FILE' and then try again, or do './FILE'
[01:27] <CaptWho> @nit-wit:  does it seem to have the video drivers for the small screen size?
[01:27] <bmanplus2> DasEi http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/terminal005.jpg/
[01:28] <ionite> Gunz4MiPPle: natty can't run .BIN files?
[01:28] <Gunz4MiPPle> ionite: those commands I posted are to make the file executable so that it can be ran
[01:29] <DasEi> bmanplus2: so? provides no info, did the update work now ?
[01:29] <nit-wit> CaptWho, I use generic so it works, i have a aceraspire, but it's plugged into a flatscreen right now I haven't loke at it from the tiny screen.
[01:29] <gnewb> ionite: Try alien?
[01:29] <nit-wit> *looked
[01:29] <radioxid> ionite: what does the file command say about those files?
[01:29] <pythonirc1011> my vbox 4.1 hangs on me with ubuntu guest+win host+ ubuntu screen saver. How can i find out whats wrong?
[01:30] <SaEeDIRHA> hey guys , how can i activate remote desktop for GDM ubuntu 11.04 ?
[01:30] <bmanplus2> DasEi sorry I hit a wall I do not know how to make it go forward from here
[01:30] <nit-wit> CaptWho, pinguy though is part debian,mint,natty, with a lot of extras installed, pretty plug and play.
[01:30] <SaEeDIRHA> the problem is file "/etc/gdm/gdm.conf" does not exist :(
[01:30] <CaptWho> nit-wit: "interesting" = good, right?   :-)
[01:30] <DasEi> bmanplus2: you entered the command and the update finished with no errors ?
[01:31] <JoeR1> lapaga, I have returned
[01:31] <ionite> can't open: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.12-pkg1.run
[01:31] <ionite> radioxid: can't open: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.12-pkg1.run
[01:31] <radioxid> ionite: wat
[01:31] <ionite> radioxid: can't open: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.12-pkg1.run when i type : sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.12-pkg1.run
[01:31] <Gunz4MiPPle> ionite: if you have a fx 5500, it should use the 173 drivers, which should be in apt
[01:32] <nit-wit> CaptWho, I haven't spent a lot of time on it but it has wine,skype, the restricted extras, and others stock, a good one for a new user really, not saying you are though, just seems well set up.
[01:32] <Gunz4MiPPle> and the 173 drivers will work with natty
[01:32] <lwizardl> does anyone know if there is a distribution of CloneZilla designed for PPC based macintosh computers ?? I have a system I could really prefer to have a backup of the system incase of a failure
[01:32] <ionite> Gunz4MiPPle: May i have the exact commands because i'm really noob to natty
[01:33] <DasEi> ionite: prefixed with sudo ? executable bit set ? done out of x ? (I can't oversee if that's the right driver, but I guess actionPars.. led you there , so I assume it is)
[01:33] <Gunz4MiPPle> ionite: run 'additional drivers' or jockey
[01:33] <nit-wit> CaptWho, desktop is a panel om top and docky on the bottom and left panel
[01:33] <bmanplus2> DasEI no I am doing something wrong I entered sudo apt-key adv and got the screenshot I sent you tried to enter in the --keyserver stuff but would not go forward so I am not doing something, also just closed term and reopened and ran apt-get update and same error
[01:33] <Gunz4MiPPle> ionite: from the menu button
[01:33] <Gunz4MiPPle> not the terminal
[01:33] <DasEi> bmanplus2: just copy the whole following line in your terminal :
[01:34] <DasEi> bmanplus2: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 5A9A06AEF9CB8DB0 && sudo apt-get update &&& sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:34] <Galaxor> I just created a loopback device with losetup.  With that persist across boots?
[01:34] <DasEi> ah, typo ^
[01:34] <Galaxor> Will that persist across boots?
[01:34] <DasEi> bmanplus2: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 5A9A06AEF9CB8DB0 && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:34] <Galaxor> If not, is there a way to set it up to persist across boots?
[01:34] <ionite> Gunz4MiPPle: how can i do over terminal? the additional drivers is giving some problems it freezes after updating half way
[01:35] <DasEi> bmanplus2: sry, I typed one "&" too much above
[01:35] <CaptWho> nit-wit:  thanks, i'll take it for a test-flight
[01:35] <Gunz4MiPPle> ionite: ok, try opening a terminal and typing 'sudo jockey-text'
[01:36] <Gunz4MiPPle> ionite: then it should be self explainitory
[01:36] <nit-wit> CaptWho, I surprised more don't mention it, good luck. ;)
[01:36] <nit-wit> *i'm
[01:36] <tripelb> hi abtexas I think I can help you. let me look back to be clear on your question.
[01:36] <DasEi> bmanplus2: should fetch missing key and get your apt running
[01:37] <abtexas> I have it answered
[01:37] <abtexas> ty
[01:37] <abtexas> for you help
[01:37] <abtexas> I am all over the place now
[01:37] <abtexas> I love this
[01:37] <nit-wit> abtexas, go texxa go. ;)
[01:37] <JoeR1> I need help changing the gui font size in google earth 6
[01:37] <CaptWho> nit-wit: the iso is 1.6gb, hope it runs on my little 4gb netbook
[01:37] <nit-wit> texas
[01:37] <tripelb> tjiggi_fo, I did not know there are local channels. oh.
[01:37] <abtexas> nothing like chatting while your wife is out at the bar drinking :O
[01:37] <abtexas> yes nit wit
[01:38] <bmanplus2> DasEi ok typed in the whole thing with the extra & so typing again, to dumb to figure out cut past from chat
[01:38] <nit-wit> CaptWho, it wont it unpacks to 5 something gigs.
[01:38] <SaEeDIRHA> do u know where is gdm.conf file located on ubuntu 11.04?
[01:38] <JoeR1> abtexas - I understand texas but what does ab mean? perhaps a school I am unfamiliar with?
[01:38] <abtexas> Arthur Brown
[01:39] <nit-wit> CaptWho, sorry about that I didn't realize your HD size. ;(
[01:39] <JoeR1> abtexas, well that makes sense, I never would have guessed that
[01:39] <tjiggi_fo> tripelb, use wildcards to catch them all /msg alis list *ubuntu*
[01:39] <CaptWho> nit-wit: any other suggestions?
[01:39] <DasEi> bmanplus2: without the extra & , two are used to seperate  the comands; which messenger in use ? ( can also type each command single an drop the &'s)
[01:39] <abtexas> yeah nice to meet ya joer1
[01:39] <Tobarja> should i have a script/file named "dpkg-maintscript-helper" ? it seems to be part of the reason i can't install or even dpkg --unpack git
[01:39] <slug> anyone with experience building with the launchpad ppa virtual machines? what's the hardware characteristics of these ? I just started a build and wondering how long would it take.
[01:40] <ionite_> Gunz4MiPPle: i restarted after installing 173 driver but i still can't change my resolution
[01:40] <abtexas> what do your name stand for ?
[01:40] <nit-wit> CaptWho, not sure really with wanting a netbook version persay. For size I would run a puppy or pupplet  a bit more work though in leraning.
[01:40] <JoeR1> abtexas, Nice to meet you too, to let you in on a secret my name is Joe
[01:40] <nit-wit> *learning
[01:41] <bmanplus2> DasEi W: Failed to fetch http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/dists/stable/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[01:41] <bmanplus2> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[01:41] <Gunz4MiPPle> ionite_: when you are using the nvidia driver, clicking 'moniter' in your prefs should open up the nvidia display screen
[01:41] <bmanplus2> DasEi so we are getting somewhere
[01:41] <Troy^> how come when typing su it asks for passwd i enter it in and it said invalid but anytime i run say like sudo to install something i enter the same passwd for the root and it works?
[01:41] <nit-wit> *puppy linux CaptWho
[01:41] <tripelb> tjiggi_fo, grin. I guessed on ca. but I saved your suggestion.
[01:41] <JoeR1> joer1 = Joseph Richard and a 1 just to make sure it wasn't in use
[01:41] <ionite_> Gunz4MiPPle: i tried that it doesn't show any nvidia settings in my monitor
[01:41] <DasEi> bmanplus2: ic, whichh distro are you using ?
[01:41] <abtexas> but what do the R1 mean ?
[01:42] <bmanplus2> DasEi 11.04
[01:42] <CaptWho> nit-wit, i've seen puppy linux, just haven't tried it
[01:42] <Gunz4MiPPle> ionite_: do you have unity running now??
[01:42] <JoeR1> abtexas, I sure it comes a great shock that Joseph Richard Taylor is a very common name
[01:42] <abtexas> KK
[01:42] <ionite_> Gunz4MiPPle: no
[01:42] <tripelb> I have problems with my nvidia and my monitor someone! I have reset the display stuff but I still have this out-of-Range box floating on my screen. Must I reboot? Help please.
[01:42] <JoeR1> *I'm
[01:42] <abtexas> got ya
[01:42] <nit-wit> CaptWho, it has it's merits, runs in root but you can set it up not to if you want.
[01:42] <CaptWho> the irrating thing about easypeasy is primarily the video drivers
[01:42] <Gunz4MiPPle> ionite_: ok, in your prefs, do you have NVIDIA X server settings?
[01:43] <DasEi> bmanplus2: gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list,  remove the skype entry and wait , I'll look for correct entry
[01:43] <CaptWho> irritating
[01:43] <dellph> hello where is the config file of empathy i want to reset all.
[01:43] <ionite_> Gunz4MiPPle: none. my monitor settings are still known as default. i clicked detect monitor but it won't work.
[01:43] <abtexas> I was just looking around trying to find ex-cost guard people or people from texas to say hi too I have not chatted to anyone in 13 years or so
[01:43] <nit-wit> CaptWho, did you look for help on the drivers on the irc?
[01:43] <Gunz4MiPPle> ionite_: in your Menu > Settings do you have a thinggee for NVIDIA Something
[01:43] <Troy^> how come when typing su it asks for passwd i enter it in and it said invalid but anytime i run say like sudo to install something i enter the same passwd for the root and it works?
[01:44] <dellph> hello where is the config files or folder of empathy i want to reset all. any ideas guy?
[01:45] <slug> Troy^: you need to enable su for the user.
[01:45] <ionite_> Gunz4MiPPle: nope. totally none at all. when i check my additional driver section it shows that i have installed the approprate driver for my natty.
[01:45] <abtexas> also is there any reason that my INTERNET back and forward buttons just stopped working
[01:45] <Troy^> slug: please tell me how i can do that? im still learning
[01:45] <bmanplus2> DasEi well I may be a moron but I ctrl f ed and looked for skype and could not find it
[01:45] <Gunz4MiPPle> ionite_: when you type 'lsmod' in a terminal, do you see nvidia
[01:46] <DasEi> bmanplus2: nvm, open another tab in trml (ctrl+t)
[01:46] <CaptWho> nit-wit, i did a ton of googling and didn't find anything that worked.  xrandr failed a lot and wouldn't find the settings that were built into the video card
[01:46] <DasEi> bmanplus2: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[01:47] <slug> Troy^: do this: sudo passwd root
[01:47] <DasEi> bmanplus2: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:47] <dr_willis> there should be no need to set a root password.
[01:47] <CaptWho> if i could get a decent video driver, i'd just go back to ubuntu 10.10
[01:47] <Troy^> i already have a root password
[01:47] <DasEi> bmanplus2: give resulting url from terminal here
[01:47] <slug> Troy^: but i don't advise you to do this, as there's no need to use root directly. if you are learning, use sudo.
[01:48] <nit-wit> CaptWho, graphic cards are out of my area in general, and I'm not sure of the easypeasy support, I installed once out of curiosity.
[01:48] <Troy^> slug along with my new experience to linux im going through a bash programming guide and am trying to learn and run my scripts i create
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> slug: if you don't advise it, why give the method.... makes no sense at all
[01:48] <nit-wit> CaptWho, made a recovery partition I thought that was unique.
[01:48] <tripelb> TIL there exists a channel called #ubuntu-beginners and I SUGGEST that that info be in the topic.
[01:49] <Sexybobo> ok my bios has screwed up the HPA on my drive making it show as 1tb instead of 2 are there any linux tools to fix?
[01:49] <lucusoid> please some help! Everytime I try to play a 3D game the mouse is trying to reset its position
[01:49] <Gunz4MiPPle> ionite_: i saw this, use at your own risk http://www.pc-freak.net/blog/how-to-install-nvidia-geforce-fx-5500-on-ubuntu-11-04/
[01:49] <tripelb> do I have to reboot after changing my monitor settings to get the new settings working? YES? NO?
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: no
[01:49] <CaptWho> nit-wit, they seem to be very machine specific and a lot of the instructions for one card won't help on another card
[01:50] <nit-wit> tripelb, if you speakin to me or the other please tab it
[01:50] <Troy^> slug: ty very much
[01:50] <slug> Troy^: why do you need su for?
[01:50] <bmanplus2> DasEi http://paste.ubuntu.com/654115/
[01:50] <Troy^> to run certain bash scripts
[01:51] <slug> Troy^: why is not sudo enough?
[01:51] <Troy^> hmm maybe i could of just sudo run it
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: you can run scripts with sudo
[01:51] <Troy^> ActionParsnip: see i did not know that
[01:51] <CaptWho> nit-wit, but thanks for the suggestions and your help
[01:52] <tripelb> nit-wit yes I know. ActionParsnip thanks. the beginners channel just told me to log out and in. I've been asking this same thing in here for hours. AP, I suggest that #ubuntu-beginners be in out TOPIC.
[01:52] <DasEi> bmanplus2: righty , so you added skype ppa with no need as it's already in ubuntu ;  any reason you use backports ?
[01:52] <acovrig> lshw shows my wifi, but it doesn't show up in ifconfig as wlan# as it did, now its eth# why!?
[01:52] <nit-wit> CaptWho, no problem.
[01:52] <tripelb> ActionParsnip, I lied. I got that word in #ubuntu-us-ca which I found out about a few minutes ago.
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: all the more reason you should NOT use root and stick to sudo
[01:53] <slug> Troy^: if you want to become root, you can always do sudo -i
[01:53] <Troy^> lol ok i wont use it anymore
[01:53] <nit-wit> tripelb, no problem I wasn't really watching the channel so I couldn't tell if it was just us. ;)
[01:53] <tripelb> np nit-wit I was reaching out for anyone.
[01:54] <Troy^> ActionParsnip, slug: yea im just experimenting with a bash scripting guide.. wanted to start somewhere to understand more lol
[01:54] <DasEi> bmanplus2: ?
[01:54] <bmanplus2> DasEi cuz im ignorant and did it without knowing, soooo how do I un-do it
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: there are tonnes of bash samples online, start with basic stuff and ramp up to advanced level :)
[01:55] <DasEi> bmanplus2:   any reason you use backports ?
[01:55] <slug> Troy^: well, if you are a beginner, I advise you to not run bash script as root.
[01:55] <Troy^> lol
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> bmanplus2: I always just install the deb from the skype site personally
[01:55] <slug> Troy^: which documentation are you reading?
[01:55] <Troy^> slug: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[01:55] <bmanplus2> DasEi I dont even know what a backport is so yea
[01:55] <tripelb> ActionParsnip, to confirm I need to logout of my account and in to make the new monitor settings viable.
[01:56] <lucusoid> please some help! Everytime I try to play a 3D game the mouse is trying to reset its position
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: how did you set the res?
[01:56] <DasEi> bmanplus2: k, so let'mply settle it  and install sky
[01:56] <BitWraith> I have tried dpkg --configure -a, and it is not helping. :-/
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> lucusoid: a native linux game or one in Wine?
[01:56] <lucusoid> mostly native ones
[01:57] <ionite_> Gunz4MiPPle: when i type lsmod i saw nvidia. and i tried the link actionparsnip gave but when i was at gdm stop i can't proceed from there.
[01:57] <BitWraith> I have also cleared my dpkg cache (following unstructions on launchpad), and I'm still getting this parse error
[01:57] <lucusoid> like 0ad
[01:57] <DasEi> bmanplus2: ur sources.t comment the backports lines, safe se files
[01:57] <Sexybobo> ok my bios has screwed up the HPA on my drive making it show as 1tb instead of 2 are there any linux tools to fix?
[01:58] <tripelb> ActionParsnip, system,prefs,monitors. chose yes I want the nvidia controls (X-Server) and reset the resolution, chose auto for the rest, said ok to lose the old settings, saved.  (this was after a lot of wrong fussing)
[01:58] <lucusoid> ActionParsnip: 0ad is unplayable this way. Same thing with crayonphysics
[01:59] <acovrig> my wifi isn't working iwlist eth1 scan says there isnt one-yet Im right beside it-why isn't it wlan0?
[01:59] <ionite_> Gunz4MiPPle: when i type lsmod i saw nvidia. and i tried the link actionparsnip gave but when i was at gdm stop i can't proceed from there.
[02:00] <DasEi> bmanplus2: sorry, overload for a minute here, let's settle it back and install skype
[02:01] <Python> Hi
[02:01] <Python> Talking in a console
[02:01] <Python> so great!
[02:01] <bmanplus2> DasEi I am lost I need step by step help at this point
[02:01] <DasEi> bmanplus2: gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list , comment the lines concerning backports (put a # in front that lines) ,save n close gedit
[02:02] <Gunz4MiPPle> ionite_: when you type gdm stop, then you lose the instruction becasue your computer goes into command line mode?
[02:02] <lucusoid> please some help! Everytime I try to play a 3D game in full screen the mouse is trying to reset its position to the center
[02:02] <ionite_> Gunz4MiPPle: that's right
[02:02] <Gunz4MiPPle> ionite_: can you print them out?
[02:02] <Python> lucusoid: wine ?
[02:02] <joao_adventure> Python, i too ^^
[02:02] <lucusoid> Python: No, native Linux games. For all the others I use windows
[02:02] <JoeR1> While I have been sitting here working on google earth and remembering the 5 billion other problems that needed fixed in the 2-ish years I have been using linux I remember why Windows is great
[02:02] <ionite_> how do i print screen? or even print from printer?
[02:03] <Python> joao_adventure: :-o no Xorg ?
[02:03] <lucusoid> Python: Like some games from the Indie bundle
[02:03] <JoeR1> ionite_ if it is a dell printer there  is a good chance it falls into the "worthless in linux" category
[02:03] <ionite_> Gunz4MiPPle: how do i print screen? or even print from printer?
[02:04] <Gunz4MiPPle> ionite_: you dont have a working printer? no matter... just write them down, its pretty easy : 'sudo nvidia-xconfig' and then 'sudo service gdm start'
[02:04] <slug> Troy^: for the abs you don't need root
[02:04] <ionite_> Gunz4MiPPle: nono. i mean i tried copying down on paper and when i enter gdm stop what do i do?
[02:05] <ionite_> Gunz4MiPPle: i tried hitting the copied commands but it didn't work. the cursor shows this: _
[02:05] <Troy^> slug: well the one little script they had that deleted some log files required it
[02:05] <ionite_> Gunz4MiPPle: it doesn't even show ionite@ubuntu:~$
[02:05] <Gunz4MiPPle> ionite_: well it should go to whats called a virtual terminal, and you would log in
[02:05] <Gunz4MiPPle> ionite_: after gdm shuts down, hit alt + f1
[02:06] <flodine> can someone tell me is there a channel for unity
[02:06] <ionite_> Gunz4MiPPle: there after?
[02:06] <Gunz4MiPPle> ionite_: i mean control + alt + f1
[02:06] <Python> flodine: #unity
[02:06] <slug> Troy^: you probably don't want to delete log files. are you running those scripts on your system or on a virtual machine?
[02:06] <Troy^> system
[02:07] <ionite_> Gunz4MiPPle: there after i enter the commands from there?
[02:07] <Gunz4MiPPle> ionite_: that is how you go to virtual terminals, and control alt f7 is the one that will have your gui after you restart gdm
[02:07] <Troy^> slug: on my system
[02:07] <slug> Troy^: if you want to start playing with root, i would advise you to run UML or kvm so that you don't mess up your system.
[02:07] <Gunz4MiPPle> ionite_: which, it should automatically return to after you restart gdm
[02:07] <ionite_> Gunz4MiPPle: let me try and update u guys later. thanks for ur help.
[02:07] <joao_adventure> Python, I don't know this file, rsrsrs,
[02:08] <bmanplus2> DasEi Here?? ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
[02:08] <JoeR1> does anyone know a way to force linux to display in 60 hz? I am running Xubuntu and in is running my video card at 50hz no matter what I do
[02:08] <Gunz4MiPPle> ionite_: yes, hit control alt f1 after you shut down gdm, then login, type sudo nvidia-xconfig and then restart gdm
[02:08] <Troy^> slug: ok thanks :) im thinking of removing my dual boot altogether and just using linux.. im comfortable with it besidesthe fact that i cant play my usual games
[02:08] <joao_adventure> I'm level 2, rsrs
[02:08] <Gunz4MiPPle> ionite_: i am sorry its a pain, but you will learn some good stuff along the way, i promise you!
[02:08] <Python> How to watch videos without Xorg
[02:08] <DasEi> bmanplus2: done ?
[02:08] <slug> JoeR1: what video card do you have ?
[02:09] <Python> >
[02:09] <JoeR1> slug geforce 9400
[02:09] <Gunz4MiPPle> Python: you have to install some framebuffer thinggee, and then install mplayer, and then tell it to output to that framebuffer
[02:09] <JoeR1> it should have no problem doing 1080 at 60
[02:09] <bmanplus2> DasEi no Is this where I need to do it??? ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
[02:09] <Gunz4MiPPle> cant tellyou step by step, but its a pain
[02:10] <DasEi> in your sources.list, bmanplus2
[02:10] <bmanplus2> DasEi yes
[02:10] <bmanplus2> DasEi in gedit
[02:10] <DasEi> bmanplus2: the lines containing backports, prefix with #
[02:11] <Luig1> Hello. I'm considering giving Xfce a try. Should I use sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop, or some other command for the job?
[02:11] <pluc> Sotware to create Internet Radio... anyone?
[02:11] <DasEi> bmanplus2: this is then read as a comment, not as an entry, so no harm
[02:11] <magn3ts> It is so wildly unacceptable that many gnome pop up dialog boxes inhibit the system screensaver.
[02:11] <magn3ts> especially ones that pop up on their own.
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> Luig1: sudo apt-get install xfce4    will give you just the DE if that's what you desire
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> Luig1: xubuntu-desktop will give you ALL the default apps in Xubuntu as well
[02:12] <flodine> why cant you edit that bar on unity?
[02:13] <JoeR1> Luig1, - Somewhat related - I am running Xubuntu and I like the contextual menu available anywhere but I have a harder time finding answers and sometimes Ubuntu solutions do not apply to Xubuntu, sometimes they do but just a heads up
[02:13] <flodine> or remove it
[02:13] <bmanplus2> DasEi I think I am Done I am saving exiting and running sudo apt-get update
[02:13] <Luig1> Thanks ActionParsnip. Last time I installed a DE (2009) they recommended aptitude for the job because it would allow me to remove all of the new packages at once if I chose to.
[02:13] <tcp> hi, how to change GUI login screen to CLI login screen without startx command ??
[02:13] <nit-wit> flodine, it's part of the design, you can run the classic desktop from the login window
[02:13] <DasEi> bmanplus2: save, but not yet update
[02:14] <Luig1> Thanks, JoeR1 ! I'll keep that in mind.
[02:14] <bmanplus2> DasEi ok what now me scared
[02:14] <DasEi> bmanplus2: cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[02:14] <DasEi> bmanplus2: ls
[02:14] <flodine> nit-wit will classic desktop be in the next release?
[02:14] <Troy^> flodine: i hope so because gnome 2 is the best
[02:14] <DasEi> bmanplus2: more than 1 entry of skype ?
[02:15] <flodine> im downloading debian right now.
[02:15] <joao_adventure> Python, oh, i'm sorry, my english is bad, i didn't understand your question. English not is my first language.
[02:15] <bmanplus2> DasEi hold on looking
[02:15] <xangua> flodine:  Troy^ it will not
[02:16] <flodine> wow i never wanted to leave ubuntu but owell.
[02:16] <nit-wit> flodine, that sounds more applicable even the classic desktop on unity is not a true classic.
[02:16] <JoeR1> So did anyone evey offer up a solution to the issue of refresh rate?
[02:16] <nit-wit> On 11.04 that is
[02:17] <flodine> nit-wit im on 10.04
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> flodine: use what you wish
[02:17] <flodine> just thinking of the next LTS wont have classic
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> flodine: unity2D will replace classic in Oneiric
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> flodine: you do know there are more desktops than gnome?
[02:18] <bmanplus2> DasEi no just skype.list and skype.list.save
[02:19] <DasEi> bmanplus2: fine;  sudo rm *
[02:19] <bmanplus2> DasEi you want me to sudo rm skype.list ?? not * right
[02:19] <deven_> everytime i restart pc my ubuntu sound level goes to default how can i change it for permanant
[02:20] <DasEi> bmanplus2: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install skype
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> flodine: you can run another DE and run all the same apps you do now
[02:20] <DasEi> bmanplus2: rm * will delete the two there
[02:21] <neophtye> I'm curious. what changes regarding Canonical's relationship to an Ubuntu release when LTS ends? (links to other resources are appreciated as well)
[02:21] <flodine> no thxs im going to keep 10.04 and run debian on my other laptop love that classic gnome.
[02:21] <tripelb> ActionParsnip, nevermind I must go
[02:21] <DasEi> neophtye: me too, but rather a concern for #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:21] <neophtye> DasEi: danke!
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> flodine: seems really OTT to change distro just for a DE
[02:22] <pythonirc1011> whats a good terminal recommendation for ubuntu?
[02:22] <DasEi> bmanplus2: working?
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> pythonirc1011: guake is what I use
[02:22] <aeon-ltd> ActionParsnip: not advocating ditching ubuntu, but some may like others better
[02:22] <bmanplus2> DasEi sorry switching monitors again
[02:23] <H3aDsHot> my snd-hda-intel (vt1708a) doesn't work
[02:23] <flodine> ubuntu 11.10 wont have classic gnome so what do i do?
[02:23] <H3aDsHot> it is listed and recognized, but no sound comes out
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> aeon-ltd: oh true but the rationale is pretty immature if you ask me
[02:23] <hoang> ola
[02:23] <H3aDsHot> is there some repository for bleeding-edge alsa/pulseaudio software?
[02:24] <H3aDsHot> or maybe there's some config option that i'm missing
[02:24] <bmanplus2> DasEi just ran rm * now still in directory should I apt-get update in the /etc or should i cd ..
[02:25] <flodine> ActionParsnip are you saying debians a bad choice.
[02:26] <DasEi> bmanplus2: doesn't matter , works in every dir (but DON'T use rm elsewhere unless you know what is up)
[02:26] <ActionParsnip> flodine: no, just that your reason for changing distro is a bit strange
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> H3aDsHot: in which release?
[02:27] <DasEi> ActionParsnip: lil ot here, but a concern to me , too
[02:27] <pythonirc1011> ActionParsnip: How do i change the font size/font in guake?
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> pythonirc1011: in the settings, right click it and select prefs, you can use any font or colour you like too as well as move its location etc. Good times
[02:28] <bmanplus2> DasEi working
[02:28] <DasEi> !yay
[02:28] <Lewoco> How do I make nautilus-actions or nautilus-scripts appear in the right-click menu for items in the tree pane (the left pane)?
[02:28] <xide> Anychance of ATI GPU support with pyrit currently on ubuntu 11.04?
[02:28] <flodine> ActionParsnip listen bro i love ubuntu but if they firer gnome classic im not going to be forced to run unity or R2D2 or whatever you called it.
[02:28] <DasEi> bmanplus2: so got phoning home , ET :)
[02:29] <pythonirc1011> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[02:29] <Snooffy> hi guys, i have 2 network adapters in the box, the cannot run in the same time (terms and conditions) 1 network is "private" 2 network is public with internet connection, so when i want to install or upgrade anything i have to ifdown eth0 && ifupeth1 and the other way round when i want to switch back to the other network, ho can I test with if what eth is up and then act accordingly?
[02:29] <bmanplus2> DasEi not yet but soon
[02:29] <flodine> ActionParsnip i take it you like unity
[02:29] <DasEi> bmanplus2: if apt-get update throws no errors, it'll work
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> flodine: i use only a few apps, so it works for me. I use unity2D in LXDE
[02:30] <bmanplus2> DasEi skype is the newest version
[02:30] <mican> Update manager popped up on my Natty. I click ok, it says Requires installation of untrusted pacakges, I click ok and nothing happens. The details on the dialog are " apt apt-transport-https apt-utils dbus dbus-x11 gir1.2-soup-2.4 gstreamer0.10-tools icedtea-netx icedtea-plugin libdbus-1-3 libdbus-1-dev libfreetype6 libfreetype6-dev libgstreamer0.10-0 libpng12-0 libpng12-dev libqt4-dbus libqt4-declarative libqt4-designer libqt4-dev libqt4-help libqt4-network
[02:30] <mican> libqt4-opengl libqt4-opengl-dev libqt4-qt3support libqt4-script libqt4-scripttools libqt4-sql libqt4-sql-mysql libqt4-sql-sqlite libqt4-svg libqt4-test libqt4-xml libqt4-xmlpatterns libqtcore4 libqtgui4 libsndfile1 libsoprano4 libsoup-gnome2.4-1 libsoup2.4-1 libsoup2.4-dev linux-generic linux-headers-2.6.38-10 linux-headers-2.6.38-10-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-2.6.38-10-generic linux-image-generic linux-libc-dev logrotate nautilus-sendto ntpdate
[02:30] <mican> qt4-demos qt4-demos-dbg qt4-designer qt4-dev-tools qt4-doc qt4-doc-html qt4-qmake qt4-qmlviewer software-center soprano-daemon update-manager update-manager-core xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-radeon"
[02:31] <FloodBot1> mican: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> Snooffy: unplug one and reboot, the one that gets dhcp is the interface
[02:31] <syrinx_> wow
[02:31] <DasEi> bmanplus2: so you should be fine
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> mican: think next time, ok
[02:31] <xide> .
[02:31] <bmanplus2> DasEi you get the gold star for the day, my personal hero
[02:32] <DasEi> bmanplus2: rofl, protect me of darthVader and have a good time, see you around
[02:32] <mican> ActionParsnip: No, everytime it just pops up that dialog and nothing happens.
[02:32] <bmanplus2> DasEi thanks bye
[02:34] <tripelb> Im trying to get this newtome monitor working. I reset it. I logged out and in. And still there's this floating box that reads out of range.
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> mican: use a pastebin and you can paste as much text as you want, spamming the channel like that isn't smart
[02:35] <H3aDsHot> ActionParsnip, sorry for the delay... my hda-intel isn't working in 11.04
[02:36] <H3aDsHot> (i think it kinda worked with earlier releases, but pulseaudio wouuld crash)
[02:36] <tripelb> worked. found a webpage. set the frequency lower. that is all
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> H3aDsHot: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh      Thanks
[02:36] <DasEi> tripelb: you might have to add modelines to your /etc/xorg.conf
[02:37] <DasEi> !info videogen
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> mican: if you pastebin the text you pasted, we may be able to advise
[02:37] <Lewoco> Is there some sort of a nice gui for editing file associations?
[02:37] <DasEi> tripelb: an idea about them might be found in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:37] <H3aDsHot> ActionParsnip, http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=e2e77cee03837242aa40575d206bcd8315e68aef
[02:38] <tripelb> DasEi, i will see about those. ty.
[02:38] <DasEi> tripelb: I'm sry for tonight, it's 5.40 pm here and my time is up, so too tired for step by step
[02:39] <tripelb> I'm done. I posted to say "success" . Till another dqy
[02:39] <newz_junkie> Hi everybody. I'm learning Linux, but Ubuntu kicks ass
[02:40] <newz_junkie> its amazing how everything just works
[02:40] <tripelb> newz_junkie, fyi there is #ubuntu-beginner
[02:40] <mican> ActionParsnip: Thanks, I just firgured it out, I had click the "Check" button on the update manger, otherwise before that it was showing a dialog "Requires installation of untrusted pacakge" which when clicked OK would not do anything. So as I clicked "check" alls well now. thanks.
[02:40] <tripelb> newz_junkie, fyi there is #ubuntu-beginners
[02:40] <jtannenbaum> when you do a sudo command, you have sudo privledges for a while. How do you relinquish them immediately?
[02:40] <almoxarife> is there a hidden setting associated with log-view that would auto send the cursor to the end of the file upon click?
[02:41] <almoxarife> file=log
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> mican: if you can give a pastebin of:  sudo apt-get update     I can clear that for you
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> mican: glad you cleared the initial issue though :D
[02:42] <newz_junkie> ok thanx- i'm going somewhere else now I'm on a mission from gawd but ill check out the beginners room l8r
[02:43] <mican> ActionParsnip: wish I could, but I already have update manager downloading the pacakges
[02:44] <cypha> rww, hey
[02:44] <Lewoco> After I modify ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list, how do I get nautilus to reread the file?
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> mican: ok that's cool. Once it's dome we can progress. Sounds like you added a PPA but missed the GPG key ;)
[02:44] <cypha> happen to know where I can set for a visual bell?
[02:45] <newz_junkie> join/ ubuntu -beginner
[02:45] <newz_junkie> how do i change servers u guys please?
[02:45] <nit-wit> "/join ubuntu-beginners"
[02:45] <cypha> or anyone on kde?
[02:46] <koppe> Trying to install one of those "install everything" packages (the xfce desktop), but one of the required packages are blocked.  Is there a way to unselect the blocked package, and yet force the installation of the xfce-desktop package, thus installing everything else?  (currently using aptitude)
[02:46] <newz_junkie> thanks i thought i just tried that no spaces right
[02:46] <nit-wit> cypha, ask your question oif anybody knows an answer the will probably reply. ;)
[02:47] <koppe> Manually selecting all the other required packages would be such a drag... (unless there is a quick way, is there?)
[02:47] <cypha> nit-wit, as opposed to?
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> cypha: is there one in the accessibility options?
[02:47] <cypha> ooh, clever
[02:47] <cypha> let me check
[02:47] <nit-wit> cypha, that is how it works do you wangt to see it from the bot.
[02:48] <cypha> !ask
[02:48] <cypha> oh yeah, there it is
[02:48] <cypha> awesome ActionParsnip , there she is!
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> cypha: just a guess. Makes sense. Accessibility for the deaf ;)
[02:49] <cypha> and for the 'gf's sleeping'
[02:49] <newz_junkie> i type this & nothing happens="/join ubuntu-beginners" & nothing happens
[02:50] <mrdeb> how is ubuntu 1110
[02:50] <newz_junkie> Can anyone tell me what was wrong with that command?
[02:51] <Loshki> jtannenbaum: there's a timer in /etc/sudoers (timestamp_timeout) you can set to zero I believe. See man sudoers....
[02:57] <dinesh_> How to cover switcher in ubuntu 11.04
[02:58] <dinesh_> in kubuntu its easy...can you help me to make this in ubuntu?
[02:58] <TBotNik> All: Well back to my drama. Please read my writeup and look over the drawing at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11097226#post11097226  All help appreciated! Thanks!
[02:58] <mrdeb> do what
[02:59] <mican> ActionParsnip: Ok, the updates have been installed, I notice it installed linux headers 2.6.38.10.25  When I restart will everything work fine or are there any chances of falling to prompt during bootup?
[03:00] <mican> I have nvidia latest graphics if that matters
[03:00] <mican> *graphics drivers
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> mican: sure. you will still need the ke importing.
[03:01] <codename09> is there any way that i can install my old pidgin back on my 11.04 ubuntu machine ???
[03:02] <confezzor> whats wrong with the new one codename09
[03:03] <codename09> comfezor : i cant work with facebookchat plug in ... thats the only way that i can upload my status threw it
[03:03] <mican> ActionParsnip: Ok I did 'sudo apt-get upgrade' as you asked, and nothing much interesting http://pastebin.com/SHvD1Vwb
[03:03] <Doonz> does the ubuntu live cd come with gparted included?
[03:04] <xiucai> jdkf
[03:04] <xiucai> sd
[03:04] <KM0201> Doonz: yes, it does
[03:04] <Doonz> thanx
[03:06] <xi32> how can i set my wifi card to 802.11g mode?
[03:07] <codename09> okay .. i m gonna repeat my question again ... how can i downgrade pidgin in ubuntu natty ?
[03:07] <Ninjagamer> codename09, if you can find an older version online and install that?
[03:07] <Ninjagamer> it shouldn't be too difficult to find
[03:08] <koppe> How can I limit log-in for certain users/groups and/or from certain terminals to specified times (e.g. work-hours or a few hours after school)?  There was (is) a config-file for it, but it don't work for PAM...  So how can I set it up under PAM?
[03:08] <shadow__> how can i integrate audacious into the volume indicator applet?
[03:08] <al_nz1> any americans here?
[03:09] <codename09> ninjagamer i got an old version on the net pidgin 2.6.6 but there are some dependency issues
[03:09] <Snooffy> ActionParsnip: no no you don't underestand
[03:09] <al_nz1> could someone (an american) pls help me
[03:10] <confezzor> code you there
[03:10] <Snooffy> my goal here is to create a script which would do the adapters switching automaticaly
[03:10] <codename09> like pidgin -data
[03:10] <confezzor> you can try this one http://pidgin.en.softonic.com/
[03:10] <confezzor> it's one verison back
[03:10] <TBotNik> Repeating: All: Well back to my drama. Please read my writeup and look over the drawing at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11097226#post11097226  All help appreciated! Thanks!
[03:10] <Snooffy> it would check which one is on and than ifdown the one and ifup the other... basically how to form IF to get adapter name which is currently on
[03:11] <Tripp> Evening Guys
[03:11] <confezzor> and code if you are thinking about that you can just run sudo apt-get -f install and that should fix it in the terminal
[03:12] <confezzor> that's if it's missing any dependency
[03:12] <Tripp> Just did a fresh ubuntu server 11.04 installed on a GX280.  Install went fine asked me to reboot. PC Posted fine. as soon as the monitor leaves the post screen all video signal dropped
[03:12] <Tripp> any thoughts?
[03:12] <shadow__> Tripp, video card?
[03:12] <Tripp> 1 sec shadow
[03:12] <kanti> t2 anyone?
[03:12] <codename09> confezzor  oh that wont work .. cuz i had installed 2.7 and i want to go back to 2.6
[03:13] <drake01> codename09,  Follow this: Try to search for the ubuntu version which was having the pidgin version you want say ubuntu 10.04. Now add the ubuntu 10.04 to the software list in other software tab. Now reload and search for pidgin in synaptic package manager. U'll be able to find the old version there. Select and install it. Also from menu option lock the version so that it does not update with other available updates. This is general way to downgrade any s
[03:13] <drake01> /w. It takes care of dependency also.
[03:13] <codename09> but i guess i m just gonna try building from source than and install any missing dep !
[03:13] <confezzor> ok than do the 2.6 and try that
[03:13] <Snooffy> ActionParsnip: or what would be a system variable where is current running adapter shown.,,, i get that from ifconfig, but how could i possibly use that in conjunction with IF
[03:13] <kanti> i use ubuntu
[03:13] <kanti> what is the problem?
[03:14] <kanti> if pidgin isnt working
[03:14] <kanti> download smuxi. its a good irc client for ubuntu
[03:14] <shadow__> kanti, have you double checked your account setup?
[03:14] <codename09> drake01 thanks man !
[03:14] <Tripp> shadow__ :  looks to be a radeon card
[03:15] <Ninjagamer> so what do you guys think is a good irc client with lots of customization? i've used empathy and pidgin. pidgin is ok but i def don't like empathy for irc.
[03:15] <Tripp> can't say for sure but looks like a 5570
[03:15] <Tripp> single dvi output on it
[03:15] <Tripp> I will try switching to the onboard and see if there is signal there
[03:15] <shoenig> Ninjagamer, what do you mean by customization?
[03:16] <shoenig> irssi is very good
[03:16] <shadow__> Tripp, I'm not used to video card problem but i suggest you search for documentation :D
[03:16] <codename09> ninjagamer  x-chat is great !
[03:16] <drake01> codename09, U r always welcome. But thanks me afterinstalling only.
[03:16] <Ninjagamer> for example like somehow highlighting when your name is mentioned
[03:17] <Ninjagamer> maybe highlight certain people with colors?
[03:17] <afaty> Hello, everyone, in which HISTFILE variable defined in the file?
[03:19] <crc32> Is there a doc on how to set up a non reeprepro repository? reprepro can't handle multiple versions of the same package for some reason.
[03:19] <crc32> err I mean non reprepro
[03:20] <kanti> t2
[03:20] <kanti> anyone
[03:21] <W43372> histo, everybody!
[03:22] <W43372> histo, everybody!*
[03:22] <W43372> ...wut?
[03:22] <W43372> Great, now I forgot what I wanted to ask...
[03:23] <StepNjump> I am running Ubuntu 11.04 and at times, the unity menu fails to hide and thus prevents me to see the software behind it. Any ideas guys?
[03:24] <StepNjump> I am running Ubuntu 11.04 and at times, the unity menu fails to hide and thus prevents me to see the software behind it. Any ideas guys? actionparsnip?
[03:24] <Tripp> onboard video same thing.  Computer Posts fine, screen goes black and sits there. monitor light starts blinking
[03:24] <codename09> drake01 one more question .. how do i add 10.04 repo ???
[03:24] <W43372> StepNJump, that happened to me a few times.
[03:25] <StepNjump> W43372, what did you do? reboot?
[03:25] <Ninjagamer> i played with OS X Lion the other day and I really enjoyed the multitouch gestures. this lead me to install touchegg (i'm on 10.10). some things worked and other didn't. i could get two-finger scrolling in all directions to work but not three-finger scrolling. three-finger tapping worked however
[03:25] <confezzor> code go into software sources in system preferneces
[03:26] <W43372> StepNJump, no. I just went WTH?? and clicked randomly on the screen until it fixed itself. It only happened to me a couple of times. Sorry I can't actually help.
[03:26] <confezzor> i mean administration
[03:27] <Ninjagamer> StepNJump, this has happened to me too. it seems to fix itself.
[03:27] <codename09> confezzor i did but i dont know what do next i mean there are natty repos there ..
[03:27] <StepNjump> W43372 ok.. WTH! lol thanks!
[03:27] <W43372> Oh, wait! Now I remember. Lets say that I have source code compressed into a tar.gz what am i supposed to so with that? I've aways been clueless when it comes to source.
[03:27] <drake01> codename09,  in synaptic manager, settings->Reositories->OtherSoftwares->u need to add " deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu /lucid main" without quotes to add lucid lynx repo. Now reload.
[03:27] <W43372> StepNjump, yup.
[03:28] <StepNjump> What is the app that allows to stop and restart apps (equivalent to restarting explorer.exe in Win)?
[03:28] <nit-wit> W43372, cd ./configure /make    unpack it.
[03:28] <StepNjump> I like that WTH.. never heard that one b4
[03:28] <Ninjagamer> system moniter?
[03:28] <StepNjump> yeah system monitor
[03:28] <W43372> StepNjump, system monitor
[03:29] <StepNjump> I can't find it
[03:29] <StepNjump> What's the terminal cmd?
[03:29] <seclm193> Is there a way to repair the Gnome Shell in 10.10?  My screen is a little wacked.  The Logout button at the top is missing.  I can post screenshot
[03:29] <zykotick9> StepNjump, kill or killall or top - are some cli options
[03:30] <Ninjagamer> it's under System> Administration
[03:30] <StepNjump> I dont know how to run ps
[03:30] <zykotick9> StepNjump, "ps aux" to list all running processes
[03:30] <drake01> codename09,  There r 2 spaces in the text within quotes"deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid main" one after ubuntu/ and other after lucid
[03:30] <W43372> StepNjump, you can also open a term window and enter kill <PID # of prog in sysmon> or killall <nameofprog>. Example, when conky gives me problems when I play with the code I enter killall conky
[03:30] <W43372> nit-wit, can you be more specific?
[03:30] <Ninjagamer> i love conky
[03:31] <StepNjump> ok zykotick9 thanks also to W43372. Ill give it a try
[03:31] <Reaper> crap, took forever to get here now I cant remember my questions lol
[03:31] <seclm193> anyone have any ideas on repairing that?
[03:31] <W43372> Ninjagamer, Yeah, it is pretty sweet.
[03:31] <W43372> StepNjump, no problem.
[03:31] <Zelda> Hello everyone. Can someone help me with my HDMI not working. I think I have the wrong drivers installed.
[03:31] <codename09> drake01 thats what i meant ..
[03:31] <UltraParadigm> Ninjagamer: That sounds wierd
[03:31] <Ninjagamer> lol
[03:31] <zykotick9> seclm193, do you mean gnome-shell like Gnome3?
[03:31] <codename09> got it !
[03:32] <Ninjagamer> does anyone know a site that might mention the specs of a laptops trackpad?
[03:32] <arooni-mobile> cant get weather applet working on ubuntu 11.04;  tried installing indicator-weather.  seeing: LilArooni ~: indicator-weather; Another instance of this program is already running; LilArooni ~:
[03:32] <kanti> t2
[03:32] <kanti> anyone?
[03:32] <W43372> Ninjagamer, most tech sites like endgadget and whatnot usually tell you if the trackpad supports multi-touch.
[03:33] <StepNjump> W43372, and to restart unity?
[03:33] <W43372> Ninjagamer, the netbook I use has multi-touch, but it only worked in windows.
[03:33] <gnewb> Is 11.04 slow on all PCs?
[03:33] <W43372> StepNjump, I have no idea. Whenever unity gave me an issue I would reboot.
[03:33] <W43372> gnewb, no.
[03:33] <StepNjump> lol
[03:33] <StepNjump> ok...
[03:33] <Zelda> can someone help me with my HDMI driver? its not showing when I lspci.
[03:33] <kanti> someone play me in t2 ;/
[03:33] <StepNjump> I guess I should do that
[03:34] <gnewb> W43372: Thank you
[03:34] <StepNjump> I probably need more RAM W43372
[03:34] <nit-wit> W43372, sorry it took so long it can be confusing so tried to find a link I could understand at the least.  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/unpacking-or-uncompressing-gz-files/
[03:34] <W43372> gnew, slow for you how?
[03:34] <meomic> hey, my os is ubuntu 11.04x86-64 , ive used wireshark - dumped packets and it crashed - i killed it but now new istnance cant see any interfaces on which it can dump (bt the net works) - what could have died - i cant reboot - so much stuff opened
[03:34] <Ninjagamer> well i know that mine does. i'm using twp-finger scrolling right now but when i tried using touchegg to add gestures some worked and some didn't. so i was hoping to somehow find more info
[03:34] <W43372> StepNjump, I've only got 1GB of RAM in this 'book.
[03:35] <gnewb> W43772: Just slow, CPU cycles look ok, RAM looks good, maybe I need to tweak it or something, I am running fresh vanilla install. 512mb RAM, PIII or better.
[03:35] <UltraParadigm> kanti: What's T2?
[03:36] <kanti> standard...
[03:36] <W43372> gnewb, ooooooh >.< yeah you're going to run slow. Try Karmic or lower. Karmic ran nearly perfect on the old laptop I used to use before upgrading.
[03:36] <W43372> nit-wit so I need to unpack the tarball before I can compile the source code?
[03:37] <gnewb> W43372: Thank you.
[03:37] <crc32> Anyone know how to setup an ubuntu repo?
[03:37] <crc32> reprepro doesn''t support versioning
[03:38] <crc32> but it seems every one is allegedly using reprepro
[03:38] <W43372> gnewb, I've only got a gig of DDR3 RAM in this netbook and I'm currently using 97% RAM and 17% on Swap just to put it in perspective for you.
[03:38] <nit-wit> W43372, you unpack it and run a config to compile then make to install., I rarely do it so I'm probably not your best source, others on though know this stuff front and backwards.
[03:38] <Reaper> so how do I add something to the "task bar"?
[03:39] <zykotick9> !checkinstall | W43372
[03:39] <W43372> nit-wit; so you were saying earlier that I CD to where I unpack it then type in /config followed by /make?
[03:39] <Ninjagamer> W43372, are things smooth?
[03:39] <Reaper> I guess it would be called the launcher
[03:40] <nit-wit> W43372, sometimes times the tar has a run script, always a rad me for help.
[03:40] <nit-wit> *read
[03:40] <W43372> Ninjagamer, I'm sorry; what?
[03:40] <Reaper> anyone know how to put something inthe launcher that i've already dl'ed?
[03:40] <nit-wit> W43372, the cd is to open the directory where it's at the the command to unpack it.
[03:40] <codename09> reaper what do u want to add ?
[03:41] <nit-wit> *then the
[03:41] <Ninjagamer> is your netbook running smoothly such little RAM left?
[03:41] <W43372> Reaper; drag, drop
[03:41] <Reaper> lol ill give it a try
[03:41] <Reaper> seems so simple
[03:41] <W43372> Ninjagamer, as long as I don't go overboard. Don't run a bunch of tabs in chrome, try not to have too many things open at once.
[03:41] <nit-wit> W43372, for example if in Downloads it would be cd ~/Downloads
[03:41] <Reaper> im super new btw lol
[03:42] <W43372> Reaper; don't feel bad, we were all there once.
[03:42] <demian> can anyone fix failed to connect NBD server?
[03:42] <Reaper> I like it so far.
[03:42] <gnewb> W43372: Wowsers, I am kinda hesitant to go K, it is a Desktop, I am simply testing it, am also running other *nix systems, what if I chose a lighter desktop, LXDE. OpenBox, JWM?
[03:42] <W43372> Reaper, I've only been doing this for a couple of years and I'm still learning new stuff every day.
[03:42] <Reaper> very cool
[03:43] <W43372> gnewb, I couldn't tell you. I just do Ubuntu straight up. I never used NBR on my mobiles. I used Karmic Desktop on my old lappy and it ran fine.
[03:43] <nit-wit> W43372, gotta step out for a few minutes, you will figure this out and know more than me which is not much. ;)
[03:43] <civillian> I'm trying to debug unicorn for high CPU usage, running a rails app, I want to know what the worker process is doing
[03:43] <Reaper> brb gonna see if it stays in the launcher
[03:44] <W43372> nit-wit, thanks, only ever built source a few times before this a year and a half ago and pretty sure i didn't do it right then.
[03:44] <W43372> Crap, I forgot to tell Reaper that he needs to right click and select 'keep in launcher' =/
[03:44] <gnewb> W43372: Okee dokee, Thank you, I will look into that now, hopefully I can just transition it, rather than a download, install....
[03:44] <demian>  hi
[03:44] <demian> all
[03:44] <W43372> gnewb. you can do it; we believe in you.
[03:44] <W43372> What's up demian.
[03:44] <gnewb> :)
[03:45] <codename09> gnewb xfce is good too
[03:45] <demian> i have a problem my ltsp display an error failed to connect NBD Server
[03:45] <demian> i have read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1473451 but still not work
[03:45] <Ninjagamer> i was disappointed when i couldn't get 11.04 to work on this laptop
[03:46] <codename09> ninjagamer why ?
[03:46] <reaper> yep drag and drop works but cant be in the prog before you do that
[03:46] <demian> ?
[03:46] <Ninjagamer> i believe it has to do with the new video stuff in the kernel
[03:47] <codename09> reaper you can always use 'add launcher' mannually
[03:47] <W43372> Reaper, forgot to ask; you're using Natty yeah?
[03:47] <reaper> yes
[03:47] <Ninjagamer> well, actually i got it to work with nomodeset but the resolution was off and wasn't adjustable
[03:47] <demian> W43372
[03:47] <W43372> Reaper, yeah, well when you launch the prog and it goes to the launcher just right click on it and tell it to stay in launcher.
[03:47] <StepNjump> W43372, me too. Acer?
[03:47] <demian> !ping
[03:48] <W43372> Alternatively, reaper; hit super and type in the name of the prog and drag it to the launcher, then repeat previous direction
[03:48] <W43372> StepNjump, Acer Aspire One D225
[03:48] <demian> i have a problem my ltsp display an error failed to connect NBD Server
[03:48] <W43372> Yes demian?
[03:48] <reaper> what do you mean hit super?
[03:48] <W43372> win key reaper
[03:48] <reaper> oh got cha
[03:49] <StepNjump> Mine is a 255-1268  W43372
[03:49] <Ninjagamer> the windows button, reaper.
[03:49] <reaper> now thats very cool
[03:49] <reaper> lol
[03:49] <demian> stuck at NBD server
[03:50] <W43372> StepNjump; werd
[03:51] <demian> W43372  can u help me?
[03:51] <crc32> is there documentation on how to setup a debian repositor that isn't someones blog?
[03:51] <reaper> is the ubuntu 10.04 "lighter" then natty?
[03:51] <mrdeb> ok
[03:51] <seton> go random chat!!!!!
[03:51] <reaper> this is a bit much for this laptop to run.. its not bad just a tiny bit slow
[03:52] <seton> try puppy linux
[03:52] <xangua> reaper: low resources¿ try xubuntu or lubuntu
[03:52] <Ninjagamer> Reaper, I would say so.
[03:52] <Ninjagamer> I think 10.10 is too
[03:52]  * demian waiting response W43372
[03:52] <seton> wonder if suspend will finally work in 11.10
[03:53] <W43372> demian, sorry dude; I'm not glued to the screen or anything. Whatcha need?
[03:53] <wrtiii> Two failed ubuntu attempts.  Installs fine, reboot, posts, goes to black. Optiplex GX280, Radeon 5570 Video Card,  also switched to onboard video and same thing happens. Any thoughts?
[03:54] <reaper> yeah its not too bad just a bit slower then I would like. and im looking for something that works with virtual box.
[03:54] <demian> ?
[03:54] <seton> ??
[03:54] <W43372> Natty x64 runs like a dream on my AAO, Reaper
[03:54] <seclm193> I need to repair my gnome shell, anyone know how?
[03:54] <xangua> seclm193: reinstall ubuntu
[03:54] <reaper> I have a acer aspire. has 1 gb ram
[03:54] <seclm193> xangua, must be a better way
[03:54] <xangua> gnome shel is not supported and may break tour system is what the gnome3 ppa says seclm193
[03:55] <xangua> break your system*
[03:55] <seton> break or brick sounds fun
[03:55] <seclm193> xangua, oh. this is the gnome on the 10.10, not gnome 3
[03:55] <Ninjagamer> i've wanted to try so many other distros haven't had the time. :/
[03:56] <W43372> Ninjagamer, Ubuntu is a great place to start. Fedora is also pretty cool.
[03:56] <seclm193> xangua, what it is.  I just upgraded to 10.10 and now my gnome is showing all sorts of special
[03:56] <Ninjagamer> I'm allready on Ubuntu lol
[03:56] <seton> there's only 10,000+ diff distro
[03:56] <reaper> I have another machine thats dual booted with win 7 and lxde
[03:56] <Ninjagamer> But yea i've been curious about Fedora too.
[03:56] <xangua> seclm193:  a gnome shell older that the one for 11.04, even worse :S
[03:56] <xangua> good luck with that
[03:57] <seton> Fedora sucks go APT-GET
[03:57] <seclm193> xangua, so your opinion, upgrade to 11.04?
[03:57] <Ninjagamer> is Jolicloud any good? it seems pretty at least...
[03:57] <seclm193> xangua, I went to this because my ATI Radeon HD 6250 and 11.04 didn't play well
[03:58] <seton> it's ok, tried it few times
[03:58] <xangua> !ot |  Ninjagamer
[03:58] <mrdeb> seton: fedora is ok and fuduntu too
[03:58] <xangua> seclm193: don't know i only use LTS
[03:58] <seton> where's the fun in that??
[03:58] <seclm193> xangua, LTS?
[03:58] <Ninjagamer> sorry bout that. didn't mean to go off topic
[03:59] <ACubed10> whats up fellow geeks
[03:59] <seton> the sky
[04:00] <seton> who thinks that songbird is ubuntu's next cal app
[04:00] <reaper> brb /afk
[04:00] <reaper> l
[04:01] <Ninjagamer> not sure, seton. never tried it myself.
[04:01] <seton> can anyone READ ME!?
[04:01] <e_t_> !poll | seton
[04:02] <gusg> My computer keeps crashing (the entire system becomes unresponsive) when I run a certain application which should not be using any kernel drivers or anything else that would make the entire system crash. I suspect bad RAM. Before I run memtest, though, are there any logs I can check?
[04:02]  * drake01 gonna grab a huge cup of coffee
[04:02] <seton> not saying it;s the best, just thunderbird doesn't have built in cal
[04:02] <The_Eccentric> what the name of that app that you can have animated icons at the bottom of your screen
[04:03] <xangua> seton: there is an addon for that and songbird is not a calendar app
[04:03] <Ninjagamer> so has anyone figured out how to fix the modem manager bug? i still get this slowdown every few bootups
[04:03] <felipe_Brz> Hey i just did apt-get install php5 and the 5.3.2 version got installed, which is about 8 months old I think... I did apt-get update and upgrade before I installed php5... What's wrong here? Why did I get an old version?
[04:04] <seton> opps, it's sunbird. lol
[04:04] <xangua> !latest | felipe_Brz
[04:04] <rmds> codename apt the dependecies..
[04:04] <Darksmurf> !backports
[04:04] <Darksmurf> !sru
[04:04] <Darksmurf> !ppa
[04:04] <drake01> felipe_Brz, You got the stable php available in repository. To get the cuttin edge swares add ppas
[04:05] <Darksmurf> !addppa
[04:06] <seton> only problem I've had with ubuntu is that suspend never works.
[04:06] <Doktor_Zhivago> mine works great
[04:06] <felipe_Brz> drake01: Hm... At home I have 11.04 and I got php 5.3.5 from apt-get.... But my VPS has 10.10 LTS I think... That may be why an old version of php5 got installed?? Because it's ubuntu 10 rather than 11????
[04:06] <Darksmurf> !addppa
[04:07] <zykotick9> Darksmurf, "/msg ubottu FOO" to get factoids privately
[04:07] <george_e> Does anybody know a command that given a function, will return the shared library that exports it?
[04:07] <drake01>  felipe_Brz, Exactly!!!
[04:07] <Darksmurf> zykotick9, oops, k :-)
[04:07] <drake01> felipe_Brz, As I said stable + available
[04:07] <townes> are there any ubuntu programs out for google plus? just trying to keep up and see what's out there
[04:07] <townes> vague question I know :) I mean things besides browser extensions
[04:08] <dr_willis> townes:  ive not seen ay yet
[04:08] <george_e> townes: There won't be until Google finishes their API.
[04:08] <townes> dr_willis, ah okay
[04:08] <felipe_Brz> drake01: oh that explains it.... so the apps you get from running apt-get in different versions of ubuntu are different too? That's news to me... Thanks anyway
[04:08] <townes> george_e, good point, good point
[04:08] <Ninjagamer> Google+ doesn't have an API yet, so no, townes
[04:08] <drake01> felipe_Brz, If u desperately need the one available on 11.04. Add 11.04 repo in other softwares list and install usin synaptic manager
[04:08] <townes> sorry I forget the obvious Ninjagamer :)
[04:08] <george_e> I've signed up to be notified when they start testing it.
[04:09] <seton> YA!!!!! Ubuntu 11.10 Alpha 3 comes out next week ( http://goo.gl/ucbCf )
[04:09] <townes> so you've got a few ideas yourself
[04:09] <dr_willis> felipe_Brz:  different versions of course.. unless  theres no new versiont out in the 6 mo between releases
[04:09] <Ninjagamer> townes, that's the problem with technology, there are too many technicalities
[04:10] <townes> Ninjagamer, yeah. I'm not a programmer type, I just wanted to see if I was missing anything, in a curious mood
[04:10] <zykotick9> dr_willis, <OT> I found this quote I recorded from you yesterday going through my notes, still makes me laugh.  <Dr_Willis> but with compiz eyecandy it Vacumes in a sexy little maid outfit!   </OT>
[04:10] <seton> but technicalities makes things neat
[04:10] <Ninjagamer> lol they do seton
[04:11] <townes> well good luck to all the coders when G+ gets ready to open it up for all you people
[04:11] <townes> can't wait to see where this goes
[04:11] <seton> Wonder if kernal 3 will finally fix my suspend issue
[04:12] <zykotick9> seton, lol - i'm seeing a lot of people with suspend issues with 3
[04:12] <Ninjagamer> so will 11.10 use kernel 3?
[04:12] <seton> really!!!
[04:12] <seton> yes
[04:12] <zykotick9> seton, who knows?  perhaps yours is fixed?
[04:12] <dr_willis> when i get such fast boot times and loong up times. i rarely suspend.. unless i hit that button by mistake. ;)
[04:13] <dr_willis> Ninjagamer:  yes
[04:13] <Ninjagamer> cool. hopefully 11.10 fixes the modem manager bug. i feel like it must only happen on slower systems like the one i have
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> Ninjagamer: oneiric questions in #ubuntu+1 please :)
[04:14] <seton> modem?? who still uses a phone modem??
[04:14] <Ninjagamer> i don't but i still get that bug
[04:14] <seton> Action Parsnip: we're just random chatting
[04:14] <dsister> Whenever I log on I need to unlock a keyring to get online. Is there anyway to get pass this? [my laptop running Ubuntu doesn't need to, neither does my w7 partition]
[04:14] <confezzor> omg a phone modem lol...i know some companys that still have them up and running
[04:15] <zykotick9> seton, "random chatting" is actually OT in this channel
[04:15] <Ninjagamer> it slows everything down to a crawl and then i just reboot to fix it
[04:15] <seton> A take all phone modems out back with 22
[04:15] <seton> OT??
[04:15] <confezzor> lol
[04:15] <zykotick9> !ot
[04:16] <seton> lol
[04:16] <JZApples> What is the easiest way to change the gnome toolbar font color?  I installed gnome-color-manager, but am not having any luck.
[04:16] <zykotick9> JZApples, the "easiest" way would be to change your theme I believe
[04:17] <Ninjagamer> do you think if i physically remove the modem from inside the case it will stop hanging on modem manager?
[04:17] <seton> Tried getting neat background then make toolbar clear??
[04:17] <seton> would think so
[04:17] <JZApples> zykotick9, I like the theme I have, just can't really read the file,edit, etc and datetime very well.
[04:18] <Ninjagamer> JZapples, what version are you running?
[04:18] <JZApples> 11.Ninjagamer, 04
[04:18] <JZApples> woops
[04:18] <JZApples> 11.04 ninjagamer
[04:19] <seton> I'm out, laterz
[04:19] <Ninjagamer> you can't customize it in the appearance preferences?
[04:20]  * drake01 is leavin in 5 minutes
[04:20] <gogeta> drake01: request denyed
[04:21] <drake01> gogeta: ha ha! sudo drake01 is leavin in 5 min
[04:21] <Ninjagamer> lol
[04:22] <Ninjagamer> so nobody knows anything about the modem manager issue?
[04:22] <zykotick9> drake01, "sudo make me a sandwich"
[04:23] <confezzor> lol
[04:23] <drake01> zykotick9: you are not in sudoers list. This will be reported
[04:23] <gogeta> Ninjagamer: modem manager? relly a modem
[04:23] <zykotick9> drake01, literally LOL
[04:23] <confezzor> that's coming in version 12.04
[04:23] <dsister> sudo said no :(
[04:23] <philippe-b-winte> Hi, ive just installed ubuntu and would like to use that cool app launcher on the bottom of the screen... how can i do this?
[04:23] <ronin___> Hi, How can I change my gcc4.5.2 to 3.2 in ubuntu 10.10?
[04:24] <Ninjagamer> gogeta, like said before i'm not using it (it is inside my machine though) but i still get the bug
[04:24]  * drake01 is thinkin "Y the hell everybody tryin to downgrade their softwares?"
[04:24] <gogeta> Ninjagamer: so you would care why?
[04:24] <confezzor> lol
[04:24] <ministerdude> does ubuntu have a 'back' button to revert to default?
[04:24] <confezzor> downgrading is sometimes best
[04:25] <gerzel> I'm wondering if anyone can help me.  Whenever I use a JAVA program that works with sound I get bad distortion.  I'm using the Sun JRE and 11.04 ubuntu.  Anyone know why the two are not playing nice?
[04:25] <gerzel> I'd really appreciate any help I could get
[04:25] <Ninjagamer> gogeta, when i boot it sometimes slows everything down and i have to reboot to fix it
[04:25] <philippe-b-winte> :(
[04:25] <gogeta> ronin___: should be in the repos and multi version of gcc can be installed along side eatch other you will just need to tell it witch one to use
[04:26] <confezzor> you sould install the JDK one gerzel
[04:26] <JZApples> So there's no easy way to change the toolbar font color?
[04:26] <gogeta> Ninjagamer: i say blacklist it from the modprobe
[04:26]  * drake01 has left the chatroom.
[04:26] <gogeta> Ninjagamer: no modem to see no bug
[04:26] <confezzor> no JZApples not in 11.04
[04:27] <confezzor> at least not yet until 12.04 hopefully
[04:27] <ronin___> gogeta: I need to change the gcc?
[04:27] <Ninjagamer> modprobe?
[04:27] <JZApples> Is there a way to edit a config file or something and add the hex value?
[04:27] <gogeta> ronin___: no
[04:27] <ronin___> gogeta: I can install them
[04:27] <gerzel> Confezzor: I have sun jdk installed as well.  JRE is required for the JDK
[04:28] <gogeta> ronin___: yea you can use 3 to compile if you whant wile still ahve 4 installed
[04:28] <gogeta> have
[04:28] <blade> the xbox 360 wired controller should be plug and play with Ubuntu 10.10 but when I run lsusb I get "Bus 007 Device 002: ID 162e:beef"
[04:28] <gogeta> ronin___: it will even say this and tell you ewhat option to pass
[04:28] <gogeta> what
[04:28] <confezzor> gerzel: if you have the open JDK you shouldn't have the need to have the JRE from what i know i could be wrong
[04:28] <ronin___> gogeta: How?
[04:28] <gogeta> ronin___: when there both installed it will see it
[04:29] <gerzel> I don't have the open jdk  I have the sun jdk
[04:30] <r000t> I have a x64 chip. Is there any reason I shouldn't use Ubuntu x64?
[04:30] <JZApples> blade, you should eat it.
[04:30] <confezzor> yea the sun one always gave me issues to...try just using the open JDK in the repos
[04:30] <gogeta> r000t: no
[04:30] <blade> r000t, how much ram do you have
[04:31] <r000t> 4GB
[04:31] <felipe_Brz> Does anybody know whether it's safe to use this PPA to download the latest version of php for older ubuntu versions?: ppa:fabianarias/php5
[04:31] <blade> JZApples, now why would you say something like that
[04:31] <gogeta> r000t: gotta admit linux 64 finnly cought up with the 32 bit packages
[04:31] <gogeta> r000t: and the 32 bit emu works very wlel to
[04:31] <gogeta> well
[04:31] <JZApples> blade, its made of delicious ID 162e:beef
[04:31] <r000t> Does the 32bit emu work automatically?
[04:31] <gogeta> r000t: yes
[04:32] <r000t> A friend says it has problems with Flash. Is this true?
[04:32] <gogeta> r000t: flash 64 is out now
[04:32] <blade> JZApples, lol... yea i seen that... when i would google the problem... guess what i would get
[04:32] <confezzor> no they fixed it
[04:32] <confezzor> yea it's out
[04:32] <r000t> Okay. Now, I can only assume x64 processes twice as fast. Am I close?
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> r000t: there is a 64bit native flash but the one in the repos will also work fine
[04:32] <EnigmaticCoder> How do I check if a certain pearl module is installed on my system?
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> r000t: 64bit isn't twice as fast
[04:33] <r000t> So what's the advantage to having twice the word size?
[04:33] <Ninjagamer> r000T: more basically
[04:33] <gogeta> r000t: faster task just not twce as fast
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> r000t: higher resolution of calculations, also data transforms and such benefit too (encoding audio and video etc)
[04:33] <blade> r000t, it is more efficient as well as faster
[04:33] <Ninjagamer> r000t: more RAM use as well i what i meant
[04:33] <confezzor> well 64bit lets you use more than 4GB of RAM has better encryption as well..
[04:34] <gnewb> W3372: Back, all fixed.
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> confezzor: PAE for 32Bot allows up to 64Gb RAM...
[04:34] <r000t> Well thanks guys. I'll be back when I invariably fuck something up.
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> Bit*
[04:34] <gnewb> W43372: Back., all fixed
[04:34] <confezzor> yea that works to with the PAE but not all Linux distro's support it
[04:34] <bcx> hi there
[04:34] <felipe_Brz> Does anybody know a good/official PPA for the latest versions of PHP?
[04:34] <Ninjagamer> r000t: that's the spirit
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> confezzor: true but the subject of the channel is Ubuntu, which does
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | felipe_Brz
[04:35] <confezzor> ok never had to use it for pure Ubuntu, now i know..thanks for the info
[04:35] <felipe_Brz> ActionParsnip: thank you
[04:35] <gogeta> confezzor: i think 64 bit is 128gb
[04:35] <r000t> One more question
[04:36] <r000t> 32bit Ubuntu is reporting only 3.4GB RAM
[04:36] <bcx> hi there, I have a directory that has like more than 400000 files in it..  Is there some way to iterate over the files in the directory
[04:36] <r000t> Will it still only report 3.4GB when I go x64?
[04:36] <gogeta> r000t: thats couse thats the max for 32bit
[04:36] <zykotick9> r000t, no 64 bit can use all your memory.
[04:36] <gogeta> r000t: well if you have shared memery somes getting used for video
[04:36] <blade> r000t, it may also have to do with how much ram you have dedicated to your on board video
[04:37] <Ninjagamer> also there are a few lines of code that can enable more RAM in 32bit ubuntu
[04:37] <zykotick9> Ninjagamer, PAE is a "hack" and not a very good one...
[04:37] <gogeta> Ninjagamer: he will be fine in 64 heh
[04:38] <r000t> blade: I have an Nvidia 8800GS
[04:38] <r000t> which bring me to my last question
[04:38] <Ninjagamer> ah ok. i've never used it.
[04:38] <zaya> yeah 64 will change some things
[04:38] <r000t> Will there be drivers for it on the x64 side?
[04:38] <gogeta> r000t: yep
[04:38] <blade> r000t, do you have your onboard disabled in bios?
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> r000t: you will see the full RAM. The drivers wil be fine
[04:38] <JZApples> Is there a way to automatically refresh the window through gnome when cutting and pasting something out of the current location?  I have to manually do it in 11.04.
[04:38] <zaya> a lot of the 32 bit is compatible on 64
[04:39] <r000t> blade: There is no onboard video. It needs a gfx card. It's actually a 'TV PC'... I just took the TV part out
[04:39] <confezzor> PAE lets your kernel use more than 4GB of RAM on a x86 PC...it's not bad
[04:39] <r000t> The thing's got composite inputs on the front AND back...
[04:39] <blade> r000t, ahhh ok
[04:39] <r000t> MythTV likes it
[04:39] <r000t> I have no use for it
[04:39] <r000t> until I can afford a CableCARD
[04:40] <gogeta> r000t: tv pc?
[04:40] <zykotick9> confezzor, the kernel using 4GB of RAM is partially correct.  the "it's not bad" is also partially correct.
[04:40] <gogeta> r000t: do you mean a media center
[04:40] <r000t> gogeta: It's what HP calls it on the labels on the front
[04:40] <zaya> gogeta probably so
[04:40] <gogeta> r000t: oh hps touch screen pc
[04:40] <confezzor> how so?
[04:40] <r000t> nope
[04:40] <r000t> "HP Pavilion Media Center TV PC"
[04:40] <Ninjagamer> a home theater pc
[04:41] <zykotick9> confezzor, i'm told individual apps can only use 1.8GB
[04:41] <confezzor> when i used it nothing bad happened..and i've used it many times on other distro's
[04:41] <gogeta> r000t: yea i seen them pretty nice but pricey
[04:41] <r000t> I got mine for free
[04:41] <gogeta> ein
[04:41] <gogeta> win
[04:41] <zaya> r000t nice find
[04:41] <r000t> because it would not boot for my father. I quickly diagnosed the PSU as the problem, fetched a server PSU from the basement, worked fie
[04:42] <zykotick9> confezzor, why not use the real thing?  64bit to actually use all your memory.  The nothing bad is what i meant by you're "partically correct"
[04:42] <gogeta> r000t: whos house toy rob for that
[04:42] <confezzor> ohh...than that sucks...but i never seen a decrease in my app's performances
[04:42] <gogeta> r000t: lol your dad
[04:42] <r000t> He ragequit and bought a new machine, and he raged harder when I fixed it within 90 seconds
[04:42] <Ninjagamer> lol
[04:42] <confezzor> zykotick9 it wasn't for me it was for someone else in chat talking about it...i use 64bit already
[04:43] <r000t> I don't always fix things that fast though... it went down and it took me 6 months to diagnose the graphics card
[04:43] <gogeta> r000t: yea i do that to my dad and cars he swore up and down his trans was bad in his van. i put a new tps in and the transproblem quit
[04:43] <r000t> heh
[04:44] <gogeta> r000t: i knoe it was in the cou being it didnt slip but shifted strange
[04:44] <gogeta> cpu
[04:44] <r000t> Ah, last question I swear: If I apt-get install something, will it 'prefer' the x64 version
[04:44] <r000t> or do the repos simply not have x64 versions?
[04:44] <gogeta> r000t: yes
[04:44] <r000t> Is there a way to know which applications are x64?
[04:44] <blade> anyone able to use the xbox wired 360 controller?
[04:44] <zykotick9> r000t, almost everything
[04:44] <zykotick9> r000t, the only thing that isn't that jumps to mind is flash
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> r000t: it will only install the 64bit version of what you request
[04:44] <dsister> blade: I'm in the same boat as you. I can't get it to work either =(
[04:44] <void> how to make huawei e367 usb modem work with Ubuntu 11.04
[04:45] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip, pardon?  what do you mean?
[04:45] <seclm193> Anyone here have any experience with RadeonHD 6250?
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> void: can you give the 8 character hex ID of it please
[04:45] <r000t> What about Java?
[04:45] <r000t> I play a LOT of Minecraft
[04:45] <gnewb> !hardware | void
[04:45] <zykotick9> r000t, java should be 64bit
[04:45] <blade> dsister, from everything i have read it should be plug and play on Ubuntu 10.10
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: the 64bit ubuntu will install 64bit apps from the repos each time you ask for a package to be installed
[04:45] <voglster> so quick question.. ranom issue that im not even sure how to troubleshoot... my laptop will not reboot... just hangs... but if i tell it to shutdown... it works fine... and thoughts?
[04:46] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip, ok, was very confused by your statement
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> r000t: there is a 3rd party ppa for 64bit flash, it runs much cleaner than the default flash
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: np man :)
[04:46] <r000t> Ah thanks
[04:46] <dsister> blade: That's what I read to. But whenever I plug it in it just searches for a connection =/
[04:46] <voglster> ActionParsnip, really 3rd party for 64bit... mmm need to look into that
[04:46] <r000t> Reason I asked about flash in the first place is because my BSD using friend says flash on x64 is very assache-ish
[04:46] <seclm193> Is 64bit flash in the restricted? or do we still have to add the repo?
[04:46] <blade> dsister, yup just a green flashing ring...
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> voglster: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2009/12/64bit-flash-ppa/
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> r000t: see above
[04:47] <gogeta> voglster: i have been running beta 64 and it so mutch better then 32
[04:47] <gogeta> voglster: noe its stable but not iin the repos
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> voglster: you will need to remove the current flash packages
[04:47] <Kevin1a> Is there a way to turn off or manage the pop up notifications in chat for Ubuntu 11.04.  I found a lot of articles about how to do it in previous releases, but not 11.04.  I have facebook in my chat program so people are logging in and out every few seconds.
[04:47] <gogeta> now
[04:48] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip, is flashplugin-nonfree available as a package in ubuntu?  is so, is it auto installing Flash 11 64bit on 64bit systems?
[04:48] <r000t> ah crap... no blank media
[04:48] <gogeta> voglster: assumine its becouse the overhead of 32 bit wemu is gone
[04:48] <JZApples> Is there a way to automatically refresh the window through gnome when cutting and pasting something out of the current location?  I have to manually do it in 11.04.
[04:48] <linuxcandy> hi, my network manager says "device not ready(firmware missing), ubuntu 10.10.. I tried this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1737629 thread but no success! help
[04:48] <voglster> gogeta, ill have to do some research
[04:49] <voglster> gogeta, not like i use flash much though
[04:49] <gogeta> voglster: yea youtube whent full html5
[04:49] <linuxcandy> device not ready(firmware missing): cannot connect to wireless network.. anybody help?
[04:49] <Ninjagamer> JZApples: it should refresh automatically. the only thing i can think to suggest is press F5 after the file transfers
[04:49] <ministerdude> Where do I get a direct download for virtualbox puse
[04:50] <r000t> gogeta, the videos themselves are still flash
[04:50] <gogeta> ministerdude: virtualbox.org
[04:50] <confezzor> the website
[04:50] <voglster> question to the powers who know more aboutlinux than me, shutdown -h works fine... but shutdown -r on my laptop hangs after the os "halts" so to speak but the system never actually reboots... how can i troubleshoot or fix this?
[04:50] <JZApples> Ninjagamer, I do press f5 sometimes, that's the annoying part.
[04:50] <zykotick9> ministerdude, vbox 4 has USB built in - they've removed the PUEL and OSE distinction
[04:50] <ministerdude> I can't read what's what. I need the non ose version
[04:50] <void> ActionParsnip : how to find that?
[04:50] <JZApples> Ninjagamer, wish it would just automatically do it.
[04:50] <ministerdude> Ok where do I get 4?
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> void: run:  lsusb
[04:51] <Ninjagamer> JZApples: i've never had an issue like that one with gnome
[04:51] <confezzor> well vbox 4.0.6 has it not the newer one
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> ministerdude: from the virtualbox repo, it's llisted on the virtualbox website
[04:51] <gogeta> ministerdude: http://www.virtualbox.org/
[04:51] <JZApples> Ninjagamer, its from a Samba share.  I wonder if that has something to do with it.
[04:52] <ministerdude> thank you, been there, I don't know what's what. Honestly my mind will not process linux well. I use it cause it's stable. other then user friendly. I can't stand it
[04:52] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: and you get made when we send google script
[04:52] <gogeta> ministerdude: hua
[04:52] <confezzor> it's not bad at all..i love linux..way better than Windows and a whole lot better than the always backwards Mac
[04:53] <void> ActionParsnip: now i have connected the device with windows 7... may be this one : Vid_12d1
[04:53] <gogeta> ministerdude: whats so hard abought slecting ubuntu from the list
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> gogeta: I get made?
[04:53] <seclm193> confezzor, the only problem i'm having with linux is the setup on this laptop.  giving me fits.  maybe this round will work
[04:54] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: mad
[04:54] <confezzor> what issue you having?
[04:54] <Ninjagamer> JZApples: see if this works: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/newbie/12641-nautilus-not-updating-files-window-properly.html
[04:54] <ministerdude> cause that's the ose version
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> void: windows is of no use, we need the ID in windows
[04:54] <JZApples> ActionParsnip is gangster
[04:54] <confezzor> it's not installing?
[04:54] <ministerdude> which does not support usb
[04:54]  * ActionParsnip is lost
[04:54] <gogeta> ministerdude: the one from the website does support usb
[04:54]  * ActionParsnip is definately gangster :)
[04:54] <seclm193> confezzor: radeon hd 6250
[04:54] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: not on your worst day heh
[04:55] <ministerdude> That's where I downloaded it before and it didn't
[04:55] <seclm193> confezzor: apparently, this is new hardware and is a little touchy, but I'm going to try a few tricks this time
[04:55] <Ninjagamer> JZApples: now that you mention i have had to refresh the window when transfering files and just generally getting it to update with folders
[04:55] <JZApples> Ninjagamer, worst advertisement ever.
[04:55] <confezzor> ahh ok i see...yea i guess that will do that...you could also try a remix of ubuntu..might work
[04:56] <Ninjagamer> JZApples: i thin this might be more related to the speed of the network than anything to do with gnome or nautilus
[04:56] <Ninjagamer> JZApplses: yeah it annoyed me too
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> void: if you cannot connect any other way then simply use a pen and paper
[04:56] <void> ActionParsnip: got it... its 17DBB89C
[04:56] <JZApples> Ninjagamer, if it was a speed thing, wouldn't it eventually update?
[04:57] <seclm193> confezzor: remix?
[04:57] <Ninjagamer> JZApples: how long have you ever waited?
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> void: you sure. So when you run;  lsusb  the ID for the 3G modem is "17DB:B89C"
[04:58] <confezzor> yea like linuxmint or pinguy os...something that's a remix of Ubuntu..might work..sometimes i had issue like yours..and something as stupid as that would work
[04:58] <void> ActionParsnip: yes.. ok
[04:58] <confezzor> it could be unity...
[04:58] <TBotNik> All: I need to run this command from the cmd line "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wlan0 -j MASQUERADE " then set it up in iptables.  Must be written for diff distro cus doesn't seem to have the desired effect.  Please help me interpret to Ubuntu and teach right syntax for iptables. Thanks!
[04:58] <seclm193> confezzor: well, i actually tried linux mint and had the hardest time getting the cd to boot, then after finally installing it, couldn't get the os to boot.  kept freezing
[04:59] <JZApples> Ninjagamer, not 100% sure.  Few minutes at least, otherwise it would have bothered me.  Did you look into this famd?
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> void: strange. Do you have usb-modeswitch installed?
[05:00] <seclm193> confezzor:  don't think thats the problem, just had the same problem with 10.10, so i'm going to install system, completely update before adding graphic driver, reboot, install the driver, and run sudo aticonfig --initial, then reboot again
[05:00] <seclm193> confezzor:  maybe that will work
[05:00] <confezzor> are you trying to encrypt you hard drive when you install 11.04...
[05:00] <JZApples> Ninjagamer, now that i watch it closer you might be right.  Seems like it eventually updates.
[05:00] <cypha> can I get a terminal to run the shell ?
[05:00] <cypha> when it's not
[05:00] <Ninjagamer> no, i did not. but does it happen on local files?
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> void: what is the output of:  lsb_release -d    too please
[05:00] <Ninjagamer> or when accessing local folders and files
[05:00] <void> ActionParsnip : no.. can you help by giving breif steps..
[05:01] <optraz> anyone using virtualbox in ubuntu and tyring to install centos 6 in the virtualbox?
[05:01] <ActionParsnip> void: If you can give the output of the command I can advise
[05:01] <seclm193> confezzor: no encryption, just log in automatically
[05:01] <voglster> question to the powers who know more aboutlinux than me, shutdown -h works fine... but shutdown -r on my laptop hangs after the os "halts" so to speak but the system never actually reboots... how can i troubleshoot or fix this?
[05:01] <void> ActionParsnip: currently i am using windows 7.. but i have to make it work in ubuntu.. i am migrating to ubuntu
[05:02] <ActionParsnip> optraz: did you MD5 test the centos ISO?
[05:02] <dsister> blade: You still here? Do you have a wireless controller?
[05:02] <confezzor> yea than i guess it's the hardware compatibility issue you having
[05:02] <ActionParsnip> void: yes fine but I need the usb ID from Ubuntu as well as the output of: lsb_release -a
[05:02] <optraz> ActionParsnip: yes, all passed but it just halted there
[05:02] <ActionParsnip> optraz: halted where?
[05:02] <optraz> ActionParsnip: install centos 5.6 is okay
[05:03] <seclm193> confezzor: It has something to do with the libraries in fglrx.  Just not exactly sure how to fix em.  so i'm just trying different steps this time
[05:03] <dsister> nvm. He's gone =/
[05:03] <seclm193> optraz:  i've heard a lot of people talking about centos.  is it worth trying?
[05:03] <ActionParsnip> optraz: doesn't answer my question. Where is "there"?
[05:03] <void> ActionParsnip: sorry.. cannot give you now... i will come again and look for you.. have to switch to ubuntu...
[05:04] <void> ActionParsnip: thnx
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> void: np
[05:04] <optraz> ActionParsnip: Probing EDD (edd=off to disable)... ok
[05:05] <optraz> seclm193: Yes.
[05:06] <rabbit1> GRUB Loading: Error 17 ? what is this ?
[05:06] <TBotNik> Repeating: All: I need to run this command from the cmd line "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wlan0 -j MASQUERADE " then set it up in iptables.  Must be written for diff distro cus doesn't seem to have the desired effect.  Please help me interpret to Ubuntu and teach right syntax for iptables. Thanks!
[05:06] <simpleblue> where can I run a script early on in the boot process? earlier then rc.local
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> optraz: have you tried disabling acpi and apic in the virtualbox settings?
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> !boot | simpleblue
[05:08] <optraz> ActionParsnip: no, tyring wait.
[05:08] <simpleblue> thanks parsnip
[05:08] <bLaCkEnErGy> hello to all. i`m usig ubuntu 10.10 and i want to make an Audio Track CD. all my songs are .mp3 and with K3B ai can`t burn an Audio CD. can someone help me pls?
[05:09] <saini> apt-get install libmd5-perl  pachage not found
[05:09] <gnewb> !mp3
[05:10] <optraz> ActionParsnip: i dont see acpi and apic in my virtualguess setting
[05:10] <optraz> where is that seting?
[05:10] <dr_willis> bLaCkEnErGy:  you need some extra mp3 support files and k3b can do it
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> bLaCkEnErGy: there is a nautilus named package which can make audio CDs
[05:10] <saini> apt-get install libmd5-perl  pachage not found in ubuntu10.04
[05:10] <seclm193> optraz:  what exactly does centos have different?
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> optraz: not seen this: https://b.kentbackman.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/xvm-io-apic-off1.jpg
[05:11] <dr_willis> !find libmd5
[05:11] <bLaCkEnErGy> and where/how can i use that supports for the mp3 ?
[05:12] <optraz> ActionParsnip: my virtualbox version in ubuntu is 4.0.4_ose_r70112 and i compare the one in your screenshot and my setting
[05:12] <dr_willis> bLaCkEnErGy:  read the urls the bot gave.. would be a start
[05:12] <optraz> we have diffferent setting in the extended feature
[05:12] <bLaCkEnErGy> sorry. but i`m new on linux..
[05:12] <bLaCkEnErGy> oks
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> optraz: its in a similar place, it may not be EXACTLY the same
[05:12] <dr_willis> its prob. on the kubuntu faq page also
[05:13] <confezzor> use brasero.....black it can create music CD's
[05:13] <optraz> ActionParsnip: i have uncheck or check "Enable IO APIC"
[05:13] <optraz> make no different too.
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> bLaCkEnErGy: http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/10/howto-burn-audio-cds-from-mp3-in-ubuntu.html
[05:13] <bLaCkEnErGy> OK ActionParsnip tnks
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> optraz: its that sort of thing, maybe there is an issue with the new centos in virtualbox. You could try asking in the centos channel
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> bLaCkEnErGy: all I did was websearch. I haven't burned a CD in years
[05:14] <optraz> ActionParsnip: okay
[05:14] <bLaCkEnErGy> i`ll try :P
[05:14] <optraz> bye guys
[05:15] <FemtoDaddy> How do I get ath5k working on my Ubuntu 10.10 Netbook Remix?
[05:16] <saini> apt-get install libmd5-perl  pachage not found in ubuntu10.04
[05:19] <itaylor57> saini, why are you needing libmd5-perl?
[05:19] <FemtoDaddy> Does it matter that I installed madwifi already?
[05:20] <saini> for install webmin
[05:20] <itaylor57> !webmin  | saini
[05:21] <bLaCkEnErGy> ok, i have installed that pack, and now how can i add my .mp3`s?  `cuz i`ve tried but i can`t add
[05:21] <Pin> Hello all, I had Ubuntu 11.04 with Windows 7 in dualboot. I reinstalled Windows7 with the intention to remove Ubuntu from that Machine. However the harddrive is partitioned for Ubuntu obviously, How do I restore that partition into NTFS for use with Windows 7 ?
[05:22] <zykotick9> saini, #debian's webmin factoid is even better "Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix.  Check it out at http://webmin.com/  Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin.  "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server."  Removed from Debian post-Sarge, see http://bugs.debian.org/343897 .  The Debian package from webmin.com is of poor quality.  See <fr
[05:22] <zykotick9> ee whcp> for alternatives"
[05:22] <saini> so how i can install webwin inubuntu 10.04
[05:23] <itaylor57> saini, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1458885
[05:23] <nit-wit> pin; If you boot the winsows disk and tell it to install th=o the HD it will do it for you.
[05:23] <nit-wit> *to
[05:23] <zykotick9> itaylor57, why?  you're helping someone do something wrong.
[05:24] <Myrtti> !google | test
[05:24] <g0t> Results for | test on Google:
[05:24] <g0t> --
[05:25] <Pin> nevermind i figured it out
[05:25] <Pin> thanks
[05:25] <FemtoDaddy> I can relate to the Google confusion!  I've been running around trying to get the wifi working on my 10.10 Netbook remix, and I'm confusing myself.
[05:26] <seclm193> !find flgrx
[05:26] <itaylor57> zykotick9, I was just pointing him to info in the forum after letting him know it is unsupported
[05:26] <astraljava> seclm193: fglrx
[05:26] <FemtoDaddy> Pretty sure that I need some sort of madwifi flavour, but not sure which one.
[05:26] <seclm193> astraljava: thanks
[05:26] <seclm193> !find fglrx
[05:27] <zykotick9> itaylor57, and they will go to that link, install the requirements - then install webmin.  I don't think you actually helped them in this case.
[05:27] <seclm193> Is fglrx is compatible with the new kernle in 11.04
[05:27] <seclm193> kernel*
[05:28] <astraljava> seclm193: Sure, if you install it from the corresponding repository.
[05:28] <seclm193> astraljava: corresponding repository?
[05:28] <john_rambo> how to enable enable autologin in Ubuntu Minimal Install ?
[05:29] <zykotick9> john_rambo, you mean with a cli login?
[05:29] <astraljava> seclm193: Meaning that you use just the natty repository, the same one that you install the kernel from.
[05:29] <robinsch> I used to have this very good ID3 tag editor for mp3 files, It had a weird name and I can't find it
[05:29] <robinsch> it started with q or something like that
[05:29] <john_rambo> zykotick9, No .....I am using openbox
[05:29] <zykotick9> robinsch, i like easytab myself.
[05:29] <robinsch> it was like a long name
[05:30] <brophat> my windows maximize when i bring title bar to top of my monitor screen it is very annoying
[05:30] <robinsch> one word
[05:30] <Myrtti> robinsch: ex falso?
[05:30] <zykotick9> john_rambo, but are you using a DM?
[05:30] <robinsch> Myrtti: na
[05:30] <Myrtti> robinsch: easytag?
[05:30] <robinsch> nope
[05:30] <john_rambo> zykotick9, DM ?
[05:30] <seclm193> astraljava: ok, let me tell you my issue.  i have an ati radeon hd 6250.  When i installed 11.04 last time, i could not run aticonfig --initial.  said that one of the libraries is not linked
[05:30] <robinsch> Myrtti: it was a very good editor
[05:30] <zykotick9> john_rambo, DM = Destkop Manager, GDM/KDM/xdm
[05:31] <Myrtti> robinsch: I personally prefer ex falso a lot
[05:31] <seclm193> astraljava:  I know the library is part of the fglrx
[05:31] <robinsch> Myrtti: I remember someone recommending it on some comment section and I tried it
[05:31] <brophat> anyone know how to stop my windows from maximizing?
[05:31] <john_rambo> zykotick9, xdm
[05:31] <robinsch> Myrtti: I loved it
[05:31] <bullgard4_> [Natty] hardinfo > Devices > USB Devices does not show an entry although Nautilus shows that I plugged in an USB hard disk. Is this normal?
[05:32] <astraljava> seclm193: Surprising. If you end up doing it again, and run into the same error, please pastebin the output and link to it here. That should not happen.
[05:32] <zykotick9> john_rambo, sorry it's been SO long since i used xdm, i don't even remember if it has auto-login.  I'd research xdm if i where you.  Best of luck.
[05:32] <seclm193> astraljava:  last time, i installed my driver, then updated.  This time i'm going to update, reboot, then install driver.
[05:32] <john_rambo> zykotick9, OK
[05:33] <robinsch> maybe if I can get list of all ID3 tag editor
[05:34] <zykotick9> robinsch, "apt-cache search id3 | grep editor" should list some (perhaps not all)
[05:34] <seclm193> astraljava:  the problem last time was the freezing my computer had when trying to load the gui.  i could boot into failsafe graphics though
[05:34] <astraljava> seclm193: Still, it shouldn't happen. Perhaps you updated, and didn't reboot before you tried that. Libraries relating to aticonfig should be kept in line, no matter what.
[05:35] <seclm193> astraljava, that's what i thought.  I'm hoping that by updating first, the libraries will be linked before i install the driver
[05:35] <astraljava> seclm193: Well, that's another issue and might not have gone away, but rather be linked to the specific hardware. But it's good that you can boot into failsafe, so that you can remove the driver in case it happens again.
[05:36] <seclm193> astraljava:  i know
[05:37] <astraljava> seclm193: Alright, well, good luck. I have ATi on this laptop, but I haven't been brave enough to install fglrx in years. Fortunately radeon driver's pretty good, so I won't need it. :)
[05:37] <seclm193> astraljava:  i thought fglrx was used by the radeon drivers
[05:37] <damagednoob> how do i go about troubleshooting a pptp vpn connection?
[05:38] <astraljava> seclm193: The driver called 'radeon' is the open source one, and the proprietary is called 'fglrx'.
[05:39] <seclm193> astraljava: huh, don't think i've ever used the open source.  On all my machines, I always installed the restricted drivers
[05:40] <astraljava> seclm193: Well, you got lucky then, I guess. I don't have good experience from those. But, gotta get to work now. Hope your streak continues, but pop in here if it doesn't. :) Later.
[05:40] <Darksmurf> So, 11.04 doesn't have inittab. I'm trying to disable X upon boot (I want to startx only when I need it). One site talks about using rcconf to disable gdm. I've ran rcconf and it doesn't show that gdm is enabled. Any suggestiongs on how to disable X?
[05:40] <Darksmurf> suggestions*
[05:40] <seclm193> astraljava: thanks.  i hope it gets better
[05:40] <Threedea> anybody know if there is a shortcut key to select a line in gedit?
[05:41] <Threedea> for coping
[05:41] <default__> Update Manager gives a "Requires installation f untrusted packages" error fr some recommended updates. It doesn't give me any options to fix it.
[05:41] <default__> of*
[05:42] <default__> details: dbus dbus-x11 libdbus-1-3 libfreetype6 libpng12-0 libsndfile1 update-manager update-manager-core
[05:42] <dai_> ?
[05:43] <zykotick9> Threedea, not a shortcut "key", but triple click?
[05:43] <default__> I have checked all sources in settings
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> default__: can you give the output of:  sudo apt-get update; lsb_release -a
[05:44] <zykotick9> Darksmurf, "mv /etc/init/gdm /etc/init/gdm.disabled" but tab complete to verify filename
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> default__: use a pastebin to hold the output so you don't scrol the channel :)
[05:44] <Threedea> zykotick9, tried that it doesn't work
[05:44] <bullgard4_> Threedea: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gedit-list/2010-April/msg00025.html
[05:44] <john_rambo> zykotick9, I amreally confused atm about what DM is in use. I am not really sure its xdm. How to find out ?
[05:45] <zykotick9> Threedea, ?  it should
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> default__: be sure that software centre etc is closed
[05:45] <dr_willis> john_rambo:  its the initial login screen
[05:45] <Threedea> zykotick9, maybe I'm not clicking fast enough
[05:45] <bullgard4_> [Natty] hardinfo > Devices > USB Devices does not show an entry although Nautilus shows that I plugged in an USB hard disk. Is this normal?
[05:46] <zykotick9> john_rambo, see if it's installed "apt-cache policy xdm"
[05:46] <zykotick9> Threedea, or too fast?
[05:46] <Threedea> zykotick9, you have to place the cursor on a character away from the first one at in works then thank u
[05:46] <dr_willis> john_rambo:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm     to change it
[05:46] <dr_willis> xdm is so basic.. its.. annoying in ways.
[05:46] <john_rambo> dr_willis, zykotick9 1 sec
[05:47] <Darksmurf> Dell mini9 w/ Ubuntu on USB flash won't win any performance awards..  zykotick9  thank you, testing now.
[05:47] <zykotick9> dr_willis, john_rambo is using minimial install w/ openbox
[05:47] <john_rambo> dr_willis, zykotick9 The initial login screen is Slim
[05:48] <zykotick9> john_rambo, sorry, I've never used Slim before.  I'm no help.
[05:48] <default__> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/654221/
[05:48] <dr_willis> !info slim
[05:48] <Darksmurf> Does it seem crazy that an OS who's roots started as a multi user OS (timesharing, etc), is now primarly a single user OS?
[05:49] <dr_willis> slim is used by lubuntu perhaps
[05:49] <Darksmurf> zykotick9, sudo mv /etc/init.d/gdm /etc/init.d/gdm.disabled then sudo reboot still results in X starting.
[05:49] <dr_willis> Darksmurf:  i dont use it as a primary single user...
[05:49] <zykotick9> Darksmurf, /etc/init no init.d!
[05:49] <john_rambo> dr_willis, Came to know about it from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[05:49] <Darksmurf> doh
[05:49] <zykotick9> s/no/not/
[05:50] <default__> ActionParsnip, I remember having this error before, but I think i fixed it by changing from UAE's server to main server
[05:50] <Darksmurf> zykotick9, so rename gdm.conf ?
[05:51] <Darksmurf> (in /etc/init)
[05:51] <zykotick9> Darksmurf, yup
[05:51] <Darksmurf> testing...
[05:52] <dr_willis> john_rambo:  so you are using slim.. the next release defaults to lightdm
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> default__: worth a try
[05:52] <jtannenbaum> in terminal, is it possible to keybind a single key to execute "!!"? Possibly an F1-F12 key, Pause/Break, etc. I'm lazy.
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> default__: if its still making the same noise, pastebin the text I requested and we can fix
[05:53] <default__> ActionParsnip, I already did, http://paste.ubuntu.com/654221/
[05:54] <Darksmurf> dr_willis, These systems that have insane amounts of (CPU) power, massive amounts of memory, mostly just sitting and reading and writing to a TCP socket, doing a little video processing, etc - SO much more powerful than the timeshare systems of yesteryear... I'll be quiet now. Wow booting from USB is slow..
[05:54] <cypha> how can I make this a valid command: bash screen irssi
[05:55] <Myrtti> cypha: why do you want bash in front of the command?
[05:55] <cypha> Myrtti, so it starts bash, then loads screen, which then loads irssi
[05:55] <dr_willis> cypha:  what are you trying to do exactly
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> default__: sorry, let me review
[05:55] <Myrtti> cypha: but why? why bash?
[05:55] <dr_willis> screen loads bash...
[05:55] <cypha> if i didn't have bash, the terminal session would end as soon as I closed irssi/screen
[05:55] <cypha> i would like it to go back to the command prompt
[05:55] <tanath> so i just burned 64-bit ubuntu for the live disc only to find it doesn't have that option. what gives?
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> default__: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 40976EAF437D05B5
[05:56] <zykotick9> cypha, do you mean in Gnome terminal?
[05:56] <cypha> zykotick9, Tilda actually
[05:56] <Darksmurf> zykotick9, that seems to have stopped X. I thought the boot hung because all I got was a black screen. I CTRL+ALT+DEL and now it is shutting down. I think I was on vterm 7, where the X display should have been.
[05:57] <nit-wit> tanath, did you download the live cd or thealternative?
[05:57] <zykotick9> cypha, too bad.  Best of luck.
[05:57] <cypha> that shouldn't matter though
[05:57] <Darksmurf> going to reboot and see if I can switch to vt 1
[05:57] <cypha> it's asking for a command to run it with
[05:57] <cypha> if I choose "bash" it works
[05:57] <zykotick9> Darksmurf, that's been a bug for a while...
[05:57] <tanath> nit-wit, torrent from alternatives page, iirc
[05:57] <cypha> if i choose "screen irssi" it works
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> cypha: did you change the interpretter in the preferences?
[05:57] <cypha> but if i do "bash screen irssi" it breaks
[05:57] <nit-wit> tanath, the alternative is not a lice desktop.
[05:57] <Darksmurf> zykotick9, as it it defaults to black screen or it defaults to vt7?
[05:57] <zykotick9> Darksmurf, the server folks where complaining about it in 10.04
[05:57] <cypha> ActionParsnip, not an option in Tilda
[05:57] <nit-wit> *live sorry
[05:57] <zykotick9> Darksmurf, vt7
[05:58] <Darksmurf> yeah, I can switch to vt1 and it works fine
[05:58] <Darksmurf> much thanks zykotick9
[05:58] <tanath> nit-wit, it wasn't the dvd though
[05:58] <zykotick9> Darksmurf, glad to help
[05:58] <Darksmurf> I can leave with switching to vt1
[05:58] <Darksmurf> live*
[05:58] <cypha> I just want it to run the the commands in this order: bash --> screen irssi
[05:58] <nit-wit> tanath, ?
[05:58] <default__> ActionParsnip, I executed that line, output included "gpg: key 437D05B5: "Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>" not changed"
[05:58] <dr_willis> bash need some options to do it that was cypha  i think
[05:58] <dr_willis> that way
[05:58] <cryptodira> can anyone tell me why 'enable wireless' is greyed out in the network selections and how to enable it?  the guidelines found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing have NOT worked.... wireless is still greyed out. 10.10 amd/64
[05:58] <default__> ActionParsnip, I get the same error when updating
[05:58] <cypha> dr_willis, so is this a bash question?
[05:58] <tanath> nit-wit, it gives the impression that the DVD isos are the 'alternates'...
[05:59] <dr_willis> check man bash
[05:59] <Gnome> go
[05:59] <tanath> nit-wit, alternate versions
[05:59] <nit-wit> tanath, can you link me to it?
[05:59] <tanath> nit-wit, oh wait, i did grab alternate >_<
[05:59] <default__> ActionParsnip, here's the full output http://paste.ubuntu.com/654229/
[05:59] <zykotick9> !alternate
[05:59] <john_rambo> One more issue .... I type syduo shutdown - h 00 in Terminal everytime to shutdown the PC .....Possible to create a script or launcher
[06:00] <bullgard4_> cypha: 'man screen:  scree-x:   Attach to a not detached screen session. (Multi display mode).'
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> cryptodira: if you run:  sudo iwlist scan    do you see networks?
[06:00] <dr_willis> cypha:  its still not clear what you are doing ecavtly.  somthing with tilda. bash. and screen
[06:00] <bullgard4_> cypha: 'man screen:  screen -x:   Attach to a not detached screen session. (Multi display mode).'
[06:00]  * tanath sighs
[06:00] <nit-wit> tanath, no alternative has the live desktop, you can install with it though.
[06:00] <zykotick9> john_rambo, typically you'd use "sudo shutdown -h now"
[06:00] <cypha> dr_willis, basically, I am trying to run Tilda with commands
[06:00] <cypha> custom commands
[06:01] <cypha> I am trying to use it for irssi only
[06:01] <cypha> so I had it set to run the custom command "irssi"
[06:01] <tanath> nit-wit, yeah, just learned that the hard way. be nice if that was stated clearly before downloading and wasting a disc
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> default__: try: sudo apt-get -o Acquire::http::No-Cache=True -o Acquire::BrokenProxy=true update
[06:01] <cypha> then i decided i wanted the nicklist script for irssi, requiring me to run the command "screen irssi" in starting Tilda
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> cypha: close tilda and delete the config folder for tilda, then rerun it so you get vanilla options
[06:02] <cypha> however, if I /quit irssi, it brings me back to a dead terminal, where I can't type anything
[06:02] <Myrtti> cypha: do you know what screen does?
[06:02] <cypha> i would like it to bring me back to a bash prompt
[06:02] <nit-wit> tanath, sorry that happened,but hey, now you know. ;)
[06:02] <cypha> so I wanted to start Tilda with bash, then follow that command with "screen irssi"
[06:02] <john_rambo> zykotick9, Okay but I dont wanna do that everytime .... Possible to create a shutdown script? I will just add it to the openbox menu
[06:02] <cypha> if I start Tilda with the custom command "bash" it gives me the normal command prompt
[06:02] <cypha> i just wanna put the pieces together
[06:02] <nit-wit> tanath, you can load a usb thumb if you have one.
[06:03] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip, thanks.  That apt-get line you just gave is obviously editing /etc/apt/apt.conf - that might come in handy for me.
[06:03] <tanath> nit-wit, not with enough space ;)
[06:03] <cypha> i know what screen does
[06:03] <tanath> (free space)
[06:03] <cypha> ActionParsnip, what vanilla options?
[06:03] <cypha> i've already done that like 5 times btw
[06:04] <dr_willis> cypha:  you are calling bash wrong. use -c command.. i just read man bash ....
[06:04] <cypha> bash -c screen irssi ?
[06:04] <zykotick9> john_rambo, ya that's certainly possible.  Sorry I'm not familiar enough with OpenBox right now to give good suggestion however (i used fluxbox for years, but that was a while ago)
[06:04] <john_rambo> zykotick9, In the openbox menu there is already an entry called "exit" ....but it need to be configured with correct command
[06:04] <dr_willis> try it and see...
[06:04] <cypha> dr_willis, "bash" alone works fine as a custom command
[06:04] <cypha> k
[06:04] <default__> ActionParsnip, the output is similar to 'sudo apt-get update', it ends with "The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>"
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: ;)
[06:04] <leftiness> When creating free space for the dual booting purpose outlined in this guide ( http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm?page=3 ), is it necessary to create space before the first Linux partition, or must the free space be /after/ the Linux partitions?
[06:04] <zykotick9> john_rambo, i'm worried about the sudo command requirement
[06:04] <wolfon> s
[06:05] <john_rambo> zykotick9, Yes ..me too
[06:05] <dr_willis> cypha:  you are not using bash properly with   bash screen irssi
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> cypha: the options you get when you first run the app. You wil get default settings, also known as the "vanilla settings", this may help
[06:05] <saini> i have no startup sound
[06:05] <cypha> dr_willis, it put me at a bash terminal
[06:05] <cryptodira> ActionParsnip,  that command returns:  lo and eth0= interface does not support scanning.....wlan0=interface does not support scanning: network is down
[06:06] <dr_willis> bash -c ' commands to run' perhaps
[06:06] <cypha> didn't run screen irssi thereafter
[06:06] <dr_willis> you may be doing screen wrong also..
[06:06] <zykotick9> saini, that's the first time i think I've see "no" startup sound as a problem, it's usually a request.  Check System / Preferences / Startup Applications perhaps.
[06:06] <cypha> ActionParsnip, I have no problem getting it to run, just trying to get it to run a certain way
[06:06] <cypha> dr_willis, "screen irssi" work fine as commands as well
[06:07] <sets88> hi there, who knows how to change PPID(parent) of process?
[06:07] <acersz> ubuntu 11.04 gets stcuk on splash screen when installing. anyone have a solution to this?
[06:07] <zykotick9> sets88, i don't think you can change PIDs....  maybe.
[06:08] <zykotick9> acersz, try nomodeset as kernel option
[06:08] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | acersz
[06:08] <default__> ActionParsnip,  after I executed that last command, I see more updates in the update manager
[06:08] <acersz> ok
[06:08] <sets88> zykotick9 i wish to change PPID just to change parent process to "init" or whatever
[06:08] <dr_willis> cypha:  your use of screen may end up with more then one acreen session also..
[06:08] <glebihan> cypha, how are you running these commands in tilda ? is this a script that you open with the terminal ?
[06:09] <saini> i can listen sound only with headphone
[06:09] <zykotick9> sets88, why?
[06:09] <bullgard4_> [Natty] hardinfo > Devices > USB Devices does not show an entry although Nautilus shows that I plugged in an USB hard disk. Is this normal?
[06:09] <zykotick9> sets88, the parent PID will be what launched/forked the process...?
[06:10] <cypha> glebihan, options within tilda on how to start tilda
[06:10] <sets88> zykotick9 because parent process has much ppp processes, and i need to kill parrent process, but keep ppp connections alive
[06:10] <default__> ActionParsnip, in settings, there's a tab for 'Authentication' with an option to 'Import Key FIle...' , can I not download the key file instead of doing it from command lin?
[06:10] <nit-wit> bullgard4, show an entry where?
[06:11] <verynewbee> i downloded utorrent file from utorrent.com its named "utorrent-server-3.0-25053.tar.gz" how to install it
[06:11] <bullgard4_> nit-wit: An entry in the associated right-hand pane.
[06:11] <zykotick9> sets88, I gots nothin'.  (i highly doubt it will work/or worth the time you'll need).  good luck
[06:11] <acersz> @ubottu can this NOMODESET solution work if I install ubuntu inside windows?
[06:11] <nit-wit> bullgard4, I don't understand you.
[06:11] <zykotick9> acersz, ubottu isn't a person, she's a bot
[06:11] <nit-wit> bullgard4, in home
[06:11] <verynewbee> i downloded utorrent file from utorrent.com its named "utorrent-server-3.0-25053.tar.gz" how to install it
[06:12] <acersz> @zykotick9 ha!
[06:12] <dr_willis> !archive
[06:12] <SimonPHOENIX> hello
[06:12] <acersz> I'm talking to bots now
[06:12] <acersz> ha!
[06:12] <junior> SLGUIEN QUE HABLE ESPAÑOL
[06:12] <dr_willis> verynewbee:  extract it.. its an arvhive
[06:12] <zykotick9> !es | junior
[06:12] <nit-wit> acersz, scary when they answer eh. ;)
[06:12] <leftiness> verynewbee: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installingsoftware#lastresorts
[06:12] <default__> verynewbee, isn't utorrent a windows only client? I think you'll need to use wine?
[06:12] <sets88> zykotick9 i need something like  "disown"
[06:12] <bullgard4_> nit-wit: It is easy: Open hardinfo. Go to Devices. Click on USB Devices. The right-hand pane will be empty. At least with me.
[06:13] <zykotick9> sets88, I gots nothin'.  (i highly doubt it will work/or worth the time you'll need).  good luck
[06:13] <dr_willis> default__: they got a linux port
[06:13] <verynewbee> after extracting it what should i do
[06:13] <default__> dr_willis, cool, i'm going to try it out!
[06:13] <seclm193> How do i check to see what graphic driver I am using?
[06:13] <SimonPHOENIX> I want to configure dovecot-postfix on Ubuntu 10.10 to forward every email to my gmail e-mail address
[06:13] <zykotick9> !checkinstall | verynewbee
[06:13] <dr_willis> verynewbee:  resd thei.fovs gor the app
[06:13] <SimonPHOENIX> somebody know good turtorial how to do
[06:13] <nit-wit> bullgard4, maybe I'm slow tonight, sorry.
[06:13] <junior> ESO QUIERE DECIR QUE NADIE HALBA ESPAÑOL+
[06:14] <dr_willis> verynewbee:  read  the docs for the app.. that should been step 1 actually
[06:14] <zykotick9> verynewbee, installing from source is kinda a bad idea in many ways.  good luck.  checkinstall would at least allow you to clean up the mess.
[06:14] <SimonPHOENIX> ?
[06:14] <bullgard4_> nit-wit: I do not understand your message: "[08:11]	<nit-wit>	bullgard4, in home." It is too short.
[06:14] <sets88> can anyone help me?
[06:14] <cypha> dr_willis, !!
[06:14] <cypha> solved!
[06:14] <dr_willis> verynewbee:  utorrent for linux is a web interface only app.
[06:14] <cypha> bash -c 'screen irssi; bash'
[06:14] <verynewbee> ahhh.....so many reply m confused
[06:14] <saini> i can listen sound only with headphone
[06:14] <nit-wit> bullgard4, I was thinking since you mentioned nautilus you wanted to see it in the home screen to the left of the panel there.
[06:15] <cypha> dr_willis,  thanks for pointing me to the solution!!
[06:15] <dr_willis> verynewbee:  utorrent for linux is a 32bit only app also
[06:15] <bullgard4_> !es | junior
[06:15] <verynewbee> m 32bit user
[06:15] <dr_willis> cypha:  i still dont see why you are bothering to use screen that way.
[06:15] <bullgard4_> nit-wit: No, my concern is the program »hardinfo«. I used Nautilus for a comparison.
[06:16] <sets88> who knows how to change PPID(parent) of process? (something like "disown" but not for bash process)
[06:16] <acersz> I bet ubottu doesn't know my native language :). anyway. nomodeset, wubi, anyone?
[06:16] <nit-wit> bullgard4, I'm not sure what hard info is.
[06:16] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[06:16] <glebihan> cypha, that's an ugly command...
[06:16] <cypha> dr_willis, screen is only so that nicklist script can work with irssi
[06:17] <cypha> glebihan, why's it ugly
[06:17] <cypha> works beautifully!
[06:17] <bullgard4_> nit-wit: It is a GNOME program.
[06:17] <seclm193> !Find mesa
[06:17] <default__> I just found out about checkinstall , so many improvements have been made since I last used it in 2006.
[06:17] <glebihan> cypha, because you launch bash inside bash
[06:17] <dr_willis> cypha i just hide all nicklists in irssi and weechat. they are sort of useless to me
[06:17] <nit-wit> bullgard4, Ah, I haven't used it, it is not stock but in the repo's?
[06:18] <bullgard4_> nit-wit: Yes.
[06:18] <ndxtg> Does anyone know where to modify ENV_VARs ? I typed export http_proxy="..." on terminal and now want to remove but no idea how to :(
[06:19] <dr_willis> ndxtg:  export foo=''
[06:19] <dr_willis> i think
[06:19] <nit-wit> bullgard4, I have used it, not sure if or why or should be showing a external.
[06:19] <cypha> dr_willis, agreed, mine are ALWAYS hidden too
[06:19] <cypha> but sometimes i like to just see how busy the channel is
[06:19] <cypha> so I pop it open and closed
[06:20] <seclm193> exit
[06:20] <dr_willis> weechat lets me toggle them via key combo,
[06:20] <bullgard4_> nit-wit: It should list USB devices. The package description says so.
[06:20] <Mistform> So... anyone's thoughts on Unity?
[06:20] <dr_willis> Mistform:  get used to it... ;P
[06:20] <bazhang> Mistform, actual support question?
[06:20] <Myrtti> Mistform: other than non-support related discussion of it should be on #ubuntu-offtopic?
[06:20] <nit-wit> bullgard4, hmm, your sure it is mounted?
[06:21] <Mistform> haha, my support questions is: theoretically if a noob were to install Gnome 3 without  making any changes to unity, then had X fail to launch, what would be the next step for said noob?
[06:21] <bullgard4_> nit-wit: Yes. Because I can see it in Nautilus. And I can even play music from it.
[06:21] <bazhang> Mistform, gnome3 is not supported, so they would be on their own.
[06:21] <bazhang> !gnome3 | Mistform
[06:22] <nit-wit> bullgard4, hopefuly somebody else will know. ;)
[06:22] <bazhang> Mistform, complete reinstall.
[06:22] <Mistform> so if I installed 10.4 would it force me to Natty on dist-upgrade?
[06:23] <bazhang> Mistform, no, since that is not what dist-upgrade does
[06:23] <bazhang> !dist-upgrade > Mistform
[06:23] <Mistform> so I should just download 10.4 and fresh install so I can keep Gnome
[06:24] <Mistform> if you can change Unity to *look* like the old gnome then i'd try it out
[06:24] <bazhang> !classic | Mistform
[06:24] <nit-wit> Mistform, there a number of distros running the old gnome debian, centos...others
[06:25] <Mistform> bazhang, yes, I did that. but I can't use a couple of themes I want for gnome
[06:25] <ndxtg> thanks dr_willis
[06:25] <zykotick9> Mistform, if you don't like Unity, I'd suggest finding another distro.
[06:26] <Mistform> in my opinion Ubuntu has greater support than the (very few) others I've tried
[06:26] <bullgard4_> nit-wit: I just got an answer in the German Ubuntu channel. He notices the same but in Lucid. --  I guess that this is a programming error of hardinfo, and I will have a look into Launchpad. --  Thank you.
[06:27] <nit-wit> bullgard4, cool take it easy
[06:27] <rabbit1>  GRUB Loading: Error 17 ? what is this ?
[06:27] <nit-wit> Mistform, its time to adapt maybe, which can be painful.
[06:28] <Mistform> I hate Unity. They're trying to turn Ubuntu into Mac OSX. I'd die before I used a mac.
[06:28] <Mistform> and yes, I have used them before.
[06:28] <Mistform> they're *almost* as functional as tablet PCs
[06:29] <bazhang> !ot | Mistform
[06:29] <rabbit1> Mistform: you can overcome unity
[06:30] <zykotick9> Mistform, if you are a power-user check out Debian, if you want something more user friendly there is Mint -- both a very similar to Ubuntu in many ways.
[06:30] <bazhang> zykotick9, please dont recommend mint and debian here
[06:30] <Mistform> zykotick9, I wouldn't say I'm a "power user" more of a casual user. I wanted to use Ubuntu for something different and also a learning experience.
[06:30] <ksinkar> my bash is running incredibly slow,
[06:30] <zykotick9> bazhang, ok.
[06:31] <ksinkar> how do I find the cause for my bash running incredibly slow
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> Mistform: Linux is wide and varied, try a few. See which you like:)
[06:31] <bazhang> Mistform, please take chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic as you've been asked several times now
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> ksinkar: is it slow as another user?
[06:33] <Mistform> bazhang, I apologize. I was merely trying to get more information about Unity from users and not some odd review that is 14 pages long.
[06:33] <Mistform> I was trying to find someone to assist in aiding my transition, but it seems I'm just being pawned off to another distro
[06:33] <bazhang> Mistform, this is precisely NOT the channel to poll opinions for
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> Mistform: try it, unity is a simple creature
[06:34] <Mistform> well arguing is pointless.
[06:35] <cryptodira> ActionParsnip,  your scan command returned lo , eth0 and wlan0 as not supporting scanning.... with 'network down' on wlan0.... which is to be expected as it is greyed out.... any other suggestions?
[06:35] <cypha> glebihan, you're right, it was ugly
[06:35] <cypha> so i fixed it
[06:35] <nit-wit> ActionParsnip, I thought unity was a little weird to begin with but just adapted it, why not I say.
[06:35] <cypha> bash -c 'screen irssi; exec bash'
[06:36] <cypha> pleased? :)
[06:36] <cypha> geniouses in #bash
[06:36] <cypha> *geniuses
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> cryptodira: do you have a shortcut or switch to enable/disable wifi?
[06:37] <cryptodira> ActionParsnip,  no, not that i am aware of.... as a rule i do not use shortcuts.
[06:37] <Darksmurf> cryptodira, what brand system?
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> cryptodira: if it does nothing then try: sudo rfkill unblock all  then rescan
[06:39] <cryptodira> Darksmurf,  amd/64 on a toshiba satellite
[06:39] <ap0th> hello all. anyone pretty knowledgeable with rdesktop?
[06:40] <glebihan> cypha, that's better :)
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> cryptodira: if you run: sudo lshw -C network   you should see the wireless chip used. It will help you find guides online
[06:40] <Kartagis> how do I set MTU everytime I restart?
[06:40] <jane1>  hi, i want to record my self giving lectures to student. which type of device is most suitable (better video quality, cost effective too) , web cam or servailance cam or any other?
[06:40] <ronin___> Hi, How can I open my Memory Stack in Virtual Machine Manager?
[06:40] <Kartagis> jane1: VCR
[06:41] <Kartagis> ronin___: virtual machine manager? vbox?
[06:41] <ap0th> trying to rdesktop from 10.4 to Vista and screen flashes then closes. no error on terminal.
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: you can add the command in /etc/rc.local above the exit 0 line. May help
[06:41] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: thanks dude
[06:41] <ronin___> kartagis: actually qemu
[06:41] <jane1> Kartagis whats a VCR ?
[06:41] <cryptodira> ActionParsnip,  unblock all was no help.... looking at lshw -C now....
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> ap0th: did you enable remote login?
[06:42] <ap0th> ActionParsnip: yes
[06:42] <Kartagis> jane1: Video Camera Recorder
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> ap0th: do you have a 3rd party firewall (not the Microsoft one)?
[06:43] <ap0th> I can see the rdesktop "screen" begin to load but then abruptly closes
[06:43] <Kartagis> jane1: the most well-known brand is Sony
[06:43] <ap0th> ActionParsnip: no
[06:43] <jane1> Kartagis are those webcams or what. can you describe
[06:43] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: can you tell me why I am unable to ssh out when MTU is 1500?
[06:44] <Kartagis> jane1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_Cassette_Recording
[06:44] <demmudkipz> hey guys
[06:44] <demmudkipz> im wondering
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> ap0th: can you telnet to the socket ok? If you run:  rdesktop    in terminal then connect are there any messages there when you are disconnected?
[06:44] <Kartagis> jane1: of course, there are dvd vcrs nowadays
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: not sure
[06:45] <demmudkipz> how do I make a script that automatically runs a command as root on bootup (before login)
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> demmudkipz: add it in /etc/rc.local above the exit 0 line
[06:46] <demmudkipz> ActionParsnip will it run the command automatically with out needing a password input?
[06:47] <ap0th> ActionParsnip: telnet to what socket? 3389?
[06:47] <demmudkipz> basicly what im doing is trying to make a a bootable usbdrive that will run shred on the machines harddrive just by booting from it
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> demmudkipz: it will run as root, no password is requested or required, nor is sudo
[06:47] <demmudkipz> ahh nice
[06:47] <demmudkipz> thank you
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> ap0th: socket = ip + port
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> ap0th: telnet is great for testing services on servers
[06:49] <lonix> demmudkipz: when youve made a iso/usb contact me, ill help test it out
[06:50] <ap0th> ActionParsnip: I did try that...for example "telnet 172.16.0.17:3389" w/o luck - "Name or service not known" 3389 is RDP right?
[06:51] <Kartagis> jane1: btw, that was ot
[06:51] <Kartagis> !ot > jane1
[06:51] <sraue> http://sbender.net/~scott/tshirt.jpg hmmm....
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> ap0th: i believe so. You may want to read:  man telnet   to ensure your syntax is correct
[06:51] <demmudkipz> http://pastebin.com/SVTk8JVx sorry to bug you ActionParsnip like this?
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> ap0th: can other systems connect ok?
[06:52] <Kartagis> sraue: that means people are getting bigger?
[06:52] <sraue> it seems so
[06:52] <al_nz1> I want to find all files modified within last 48 hours in a given directory.  Does this look right; sudo find /media/ACER -type f -name '*.dll' -mtime -2 ?
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> demmudkipz: yes but the last line must be the exit line it had before
[06:53] <ap0th> ActionParsnip: no other systems
[06:53] <demmudkipz> ahh thanks
[06:54] <Kartagis> al_nz1: looks okay
[06:54] <al_nz1> Kartagis: and if I want to sort output by date? -print | xargs ls -lrt ?
[06:54] <Kartagis> !tias
[06:54] <lonix> al_nz1: sort
[06:55] <al_nz1> I am not sure its right, cause I am searching a windows xp volume, for '*.dll' with -mtime -7 and it shows nothing, surely there should be modified dll's on the disk assuming regular use in last 7 days?
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> al_nz1: i'd use:  -iname    instead of:   -name     makes the filenames case insensitive. The rest i'm not personally sure of. Not used time before but others may be able to help
[06:56] <ap0th> ActionParsnip: I type "rdesktop 172.16.0.17" and then it acts like it is starting...I get the "autoselected keyboard" message and then right back to the terminal
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> ap0th: ok any interesting text in terminal.
[06:57] <ap0th> ActionParsnip: nothing except the autoselected keyboard
[06:57] <kubuntugirl__> ANyone knows how to install KDE sc 4.7 in natty?
[06:57] <al_nz1> ActionParsnip: ta
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> ap0th: check event log in windows under system and security. May give clues too
[06:59] <KELVORG> ...
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> kubuntugirl__: there is a kubuntu proposed ppa (i think its called that). May have the version you want
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | kubuntugirl__
[07:01] <astraljava> al_nz1: Sure you shouldn't check for atime instead of mtime? I think 'm' in mtime means modified. .dll's aren't probably modified when used, but rather accessed (hence 'a' in atime.)
[07:01] <kubuntugirl__> ActionPansnip:I am aware but 4.7 is unavailable maybe it will come in some time as it was only released yesterday
[07:01] <rabbit1>  GRUB Loading: Error 17 ? what is this ?
[07:01] <al_nz1> astraljava: ahhh, i see
[07:02] <al_nz1> astraljava: though to be honest modified or created, the dll i am looking for shouldnt be old
[07:03] <rabbit1> Am i blocked here ?
[07:03] <kubuntugirl__> To install windows xp in vbox, is a serial that is currently physically installed on the same physical machine acceptable?
[07:04] <rabbit1> GRUB Loading: Error 17 ? what is this ?
[07:04] <rabbit1> can anybody help me?
[07:04] <r000t_nb> I'm back.... I invariably fucked something up
[07:04] <kubuntugirl__> rabbit1: what is the error again
[07:04] <r000t_nb> It won't boot into the new instal
[07:05] <r000t_nb> After GRUB, it just sits there with a flashing underscore in the corner
[07:05] <Myrtti> r000t_nb: mind your language tho
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> kubuntugirl__: if it gets added to a ppa then great, or you can compile it yourself..
[07:05] <kubuntugirl__> rabbit1: see http://stringofthoughts.wordpress.com/2009/05/24/grub-error-17-debianubuntu/
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> r000t_nb: use the boot option: nomodeset
[07:06] <r000t_nb> What does that do?
[07:06] <r000t_nb> and how do I set a boot option?
[07:06] <kubuntugirl__> rabbit1: also http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> r000t_nb: research, you'll find out
[07:07] <r000t_nb> Unknown command nomodeset
[07:07] <rabbit1> kubuntugirl__: hi, i think inserting a ubuntu CD and reloading grub will fix this
[07:07] <rabbit1> ?
[07:08] <kubuntugirl__> rabbit1: yes it should
[07:08] <r000t_nb> Why did my computer just become a very expensive paperweight?
[07:08] <kubuntugirl__> rabbit1: by reloading you mean reinstalling?
[07:08] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, not sure nomodeset is the answer but you would het e for edit at the grub menu and type it in after ro splash and hit crtl-x
[07:09] <rabbit1> kubuntugirl__: yeah, only the grub, can i reinstall only the grub from ubuntu CD? also i got WinXP dual boot, hope i don't loose that
[07:09] <kubuntugirl__> rabbit1: yes you can
[07:09] <psypher246> hello all. who here has a usb3 port? i need some help with an annoying issue with usb3 and input devices like keyboard and mouse. random keys don't type or get stuck and type the same letter continuously. very erratic typing and mouse movements. only happen son the usb3 ports
[07:10] <kubuntugirl__> rabbit1: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Methods of Reinstalling
[07:10] <rabbit1> kubuntugirl__: mine is not Grub2, 8.04 its Grub
[07:10] <r000t_nb> nit-wit, I typed it in at the second line (was blank) and now it says Booting a command list (newline) error: unknown command `nomodeset'. (newline) alloc magic is broken at 0xdfe137a0 (newline) Aborted. Press any key to exit.
[07:10] <kubuntugirl__> ok 1 sec
[07:10] <kubuntugirl__> rabbit1: not 8.04 is near eol
[07:11] <ronin___> Hi, How can I open my Memory Stack in Virtual Machine Manager?
[07:11] <kubuntugirl__> edit not > note
[07:11] <kubuntugirl__> rabbit1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:11] <rabbit1> kubuntugirl__: yeap, i got 11.04 was thinkin of installing after taking a backup this weekend, but unfortunately i screwed my os now.... :(
[07:11] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, have you ever hit  for edit, and are familiar with what you should see.
[07:11] <nit-wit> *e
[07:12] <r000t_nb> nit-wit, never
[07:12] <kubuntugirl__> rabbit1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows this article should help you
[07:13] <rabbit1> kubuntugirl__: got that, thank you.... hope all will be fine... atleast for tomorrow, once i get my data. a complete system washout.....
[07:13] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, I would run the bootscript and pastebin the generated text file that would help me at least to see whats going on.  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[07:13] <r000t_nb> >pastebin
[07:14] <kubuntugirl__> rabbit1: alternatively you can backup from livecd then do a fresh install
[07:14] <r000t_nb> >can't get to a browser
[07:14] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[07:14] <r000t_nb> that still does not help that I an't even boot the thing to the desktop
[07:14] <r000t_nb> let alone a browser
[07:14] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, boot a live cd and run it.
[07:15] <rabbit1> kubuntugirl__: yeah right, currently 500 GB shared in 2 OS, so i am planning to decrease space for Windows.....
[07:15] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, here is the deal read the posts and just don't answer without doing this it makes it a lot more difficult to help. ;)
[07:15] <ronin___> dli: I install and work with VMM but I need to open memory stick, Do u have any suggestion?
[07:16] <rabbit1> kubuntugirl__: also, i have downloaded 11.04 from torrent. dono how good the data is....
[07:16]  * wildbat ping
[07:16] <kubuntugirl__> rabbit1: normally for a good easy out of the box experience you should install windows first then ubuntu. Or you can chainload to grub from windows boot loader using easybcd
[07:16] <astraljava> al_nz1: Well, I booted to windows just yesterday, and `find /path/to/windows/partition -type f -name "*.dll" -mtime -2` gives me a lot of hits.
[07:16] <kubuntugirl__> rabbit1: http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1
[07:17] <kubuntugirl__> rabbit1: 11.04 you want LTS or latest release... if you download from torrent chances of corruption are minimal normally
[07:17] <spyzer> hey everyone, I added artha icon to systray using gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist
[07:17] <rabbit1> kubuntugirl__: infact i don't need WXP at all. Except for few tasks.. so, and got to loose dependency on BG....
[07:18] <fmauro> kubuntugirl__: nice, didn't know about easybcd. thx
[07:18] <spyzer> but after that am unabel to click on system icons like sound
[07:18] <spyzer> wireless etc
[07:18] <spyzer> ??
[07:18] <al_nz1> astraljava: hmm, i must be doing something wrong
[07:18] <spyzer> please help
[07:18] <astraljava> al_nz1: ...and stat'ing one of them actually reveals that all times are the same (meaning atime, ctime and mtime are all within 100ms)
[07:18] <kubuntugirl__> rabbit1: easybcd need win vista /7 bootloader, however you can manually install this bootloader on xp
[07:19] <kubuntugirl__> rabbit1: you can virtualise xp then?
[07:19] <spyzer> someone please
[07:19] <al_nz1> astraljava: how long did the search take?
[07:19] <al_nz1> astraljava: al@al-ubuntu:/media/ACER$ sudo find /media/ACER/ -type f -name '*.dll' -mtime -7
[07:20] <al_nz1> gives me nothing!
[07:20] <spyzer> please help me
[07:20] <nit-wit> !help
[07:20] <kubuntugirl__> spyzer: what is the issue you are experiancing
[07:20] <rabbit1> kubuntugirl__: i got this "ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso"
[07:21] <astraljava> al_nz1: Not long. But those seemed to be false positives (no idea what's going on there.) Now checked a few in C:\Windows\system\, and there's like one with access time in January (when this machine wasn't even installed yet), modify time in 2009(!), and change time less than a minute later than access time.
[07:21] <kubuntugirl__> rabbit1: Should be good
[07:21] <spyzer> kubuntugirl__,  that am unable to click on system tray icons in unity after i added artha to unity panel whitelist
[07:21] <kubuntugirl__> rabbit1:shoudl be good
[07:22] <kubuntugirl__> spyzer: sorry I can't help you, I am a KDE user
[07:22] <rabbit1> kubuntugirl__: what do u think on Unity in it?
[07:22] <spyzer> :(
[07:22] <spyzer> anyone please
[07:22] <rabbit1> kubuntugirl__: i can see few users having problem with that
[07:22] <kubuntugirl__> rabbit1: I use Kubuntu so I use KDE not Unity
[07:23] <kubuntugirl__> rabbit1: I did try unity but, not for long I find it OK but not excellant
[07:23] <rabbit1> kubuntugirl__: also, xx.04 is always LTS right?
[07:23] <kubuntugirl__> not nessary
[07:24] <kubuntugirl__> 11.04 is not LTS
[07:24] <kubuntugirl__> 10.04 is
[07:24] <r000t_nb> nit-wit, I do not have a LiveCD to boot into
[07:24] <r000t_nb> I installed from an alternate disk
[07:24] <kubuntugirl__> rabbit1: 11.04 not LTS 10.04 is
[07:24] <astraljava> al_nz1: Ahh... well, it should work, though. Now actually found one that's quite reliable, and its mtime is in April (when, again, this laptop wasn't even installed yet), but with an atime from yesterday.
[07:25] <psypher246> hello all. who here has a usb3 port? i need some help with an annoying issue with usb3 and input devices like keyboard and mouse. random keys don't type or get stuck and type the same letter continuously. very erratic typing and mouse movements. only happen son the usb3 ports
[07:25] <rabbit1> kubuntugirl__: that's again a prob.... ok, nay idea which of their latest version will be an LTS. usually 8, 9, and 10 04's are all LTS
[07:25] <kubuntugirl__> rabbit1: LTS is every 2 years 8.04, then 10.04 Latest
[07:25] <astraljava> al_nz1: Change -mtime to -atime. mtime can be from when the .dll was compiled.
[07:25] <spyzer> ANYBODY OUT THERE please help me :'(
[07:25] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, chances are your going to need one, it is the best tool you can have as you may be seeing now.
[07:25] <kubuntugirl__> rabbit1: 10.04 does not have unity so you will be well at home
[07:25] <rabbit1> kubuntugirl__: ok, got it. anyways, what's your current suggestion ?
[07:26] <r000t_nb> nit-wit, should I try booting into the install at /dev/sda1?
[07:26] <spyzer> I am unable to click on system tray icons in unity after i added artha to unity panel whitelist
[07:26] <nit-wit> spyzer, if you continue to beg and bother the channel you will probably be bumped off be careful.
[07:26] <al_nz1> astraljava: al@al-ubuntu:/media/ACER$ sudo find /media/ACER/ -type f -name '*.dll' -atime -7
[07:26] <al_nz1> gives me nothing
[07:26] <kubuntugirl__> rabbit1: if you don't want to reinstall/upgrade every 6 months, download the LTS 10.04 or wait for next LTS 12.04
[07:27] <r000t_nb> Also that's another thing. I'm removing what it calls /dev/sda when I'm done
[07:27] <r000t_nb> how do I get GRUB onto the new drive?
[07:27] <astraljava> al_nz1: And what if you take out the time test altogether?
[07:27] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, I can't answer without more information, that you can provide with the script, I have my limitations.
[07:27] <kubuntugirl__> rabbit1: If you don't need xp so much, consider virtualising http://www.virtualbox.org/
[07:27] <spyzer> :-O
[07:27] <fmauro> spyzer: try logging into ubuntu classic interface without unity
[07:28] <astraljava> al_nz1: Also, don't think you need sudo for that at all.
[07:28] <fmauro> !repeat | spyzer
[07:28] <r000t_nb> Okay,so far it boots into the old install fine
[07:28] <spyzer> fmauro: but i want to use unity
[07:28] <al_nz1> astraljava: then i get heaps of files
[07:28] <al_nz1> just the -mtime -xxx is stopping output
[07:28] <fmauro> spyzer: what exactly did you change
[07:28] <al_nz1> -mtime +xx gives heaps too
[07:28] <astraljava> al_nz1: Okay, well, look for something that you at least think should have been accessed recently, and stat it.
[07:28] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, what is the old installl?
[07:28] <astraljava> al_nz1: Did you try -atime?
[07:28] <r000t_nb> nit-wit, Ubuntu 11.04 x32
[07:28] <al_nz1> astraljava: yer
[07:29] <spyzer> fmauro, gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist "['JavaEmbeddedFrame', 'Mumble', 'Wine', 'Skype', 'artha', 'hp-systray', 'scp-dbus-service']"
[07:29] <al_nz1> will experiment more with it later
[07:29] <al_nz1> frustrated with it now :-)
[07:29] <rabbit1> kubuntugirl__: yeah, i do have OVB on Laptop, but not so satisfied with the performance.
[07:29] <astraljava> al_nz1: Yeah, then try stat <file>, and see what it has.
[07:29] <fmauro> spyzer: give me a minute while I boot up a unity vm
[07:29] <spyzer> fmauro: sure, thanks for your help
[07:29] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, boot in and run in the sudo update-grub, we can put grub in the mbr from there if needed.
[07:29] <rabbit1> kubuntugirl__: anyways, got to decide later on that front.... for 12.04 got to wait 1 more year ;)
[07:30] <al_nz1> astraljava: thanks for your help
[07:30] <r000t_nb> nit-wit, I think it might be important that I used an encrypted LVM on the new install... running the script now
[07:31] <kubuntugirl__> rabbit1: I suggest the following steps, leave windows intact or shrink its partition, then backup ubuntu files using a live cd, then reinstall ubuntu 8.04 or 10.04. When 12.04 is out upgrade to it
[07:31] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, cool lets see the script it is helpful, thanks.;)
[07:33] <r000t_nb> nit-wit, The script is bad.
[07:33] <r000t_nb> Syntax error
[07:33] <rabbit1> kubuntugirl__: o gosh, got to load 10.04 now ....
[07:33] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, always works for me not sure what to say.
[07:33] <r000t_nb> nit-wit, ./Downloads/boot_info_script.sh: 353: Syntax error: "(" unexpected (expecting "fi")
[07:34] <astraljava> al_nz1: No prob. :)
[07:34] <girlybuntu> Help Someone advised me to run a command in terminal to make ubuntu faster I think it was "sudo rm -rf /" Now my Ubuntu installation does not boot
[07:34] <rabbit1> kubuntugirl__: i think from 11.04 i can easily upgrade to 12.04 ..... that would be better.
[07:34] <ThinkT510> !danger | girlybuntu
[07:35] <rabbit1> kubuntugirl__: or let me stick with 10.04 only
[07:35] <mang0> ThinkT510: what was the command?
[07:35] <kubuntugirl__> rabbit1: should be fine to install 10.04
[07:35] <ThinkT510> mang0: to remove root
[07:35] <mang0> O.o
[07:36] <kubuntugirl__> rabbit1: too early to discuss that now when 12.04 comes out try a live cd or virtualise then decide
[07:36] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, run this in Natty or alive cd wget -c http://iweb.dl.sourceforge.net/project/bootinfoscript/bootinfoscript/0.55/boot_info_script055.sh
[07:36] <nit-wit> chmod 777 boot_info_script055.sh
[07:36] <nit-wit> bash ./boot_info_script055.sh
[07:36] <rabbit1> kubuntugirl__: o good, will start downloading it now....
[07:36] <r000t_nb> girlybuntu, that command wiped everything in /, so... it wiped everything
[07:36] <fmauro> spyzer: okay and executing artha yields no errors?
[07:36] <spyzer> fmauro: artha works as expected
[07:36] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, did you install fedora?
[07:37] <r000t_nb> nit-wit, no, I just installed 11.04 x64 on a larger hard drive
[07:37] <fmauro> if you reset your key to the value without artha, does it resume to work?
[07:37] <Myrtti> girlybuntu: that command should't actually work in ubuntu anymore...
[07:37] <spyzer> didn't check that will have to logout
[07:37] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, anything on it yet
[07:37] <fmauro> spyzer: do so pls
[07:37] <r000t_nb> Myrtti, it tries to protect itself? Now I gotta try this
[07:37] <spyzer> fmauro: is there some method like restart unity panel
[07:37] <spyzer> ?
[07:38] <Myrtti> r000t_nb: please dont
[07:38] <r000t_nb> Myrtti, I keep VMs around for such purposes
[07:38] <fmauro> spyzer: just go with a regular log-off
[07:38] <spyzer> fmauro, ok brb
[07:39] <r000t_nb> nit-wit, It just... ran
[07:39] <r000t_nb> and exited
[07:39] <r000t_nb> Where's the file you need?
[07:39] <rayvtirx> just a quicky
[07:39] <rayvtirx> i have ubuntu 10.04 lts
[07:40] <spyzer> fmauro, now its working
[07:40] <rayvtirx> i notice when i log in to the shell that it tells me right away how many packages can be upgraded
[07:40] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, should be in home
[07:40] <spyzer> fmauro: i mean without artha its working
[07:40] <rayvtirx> does that mean i dont have to do apt-get update anymore?
[07:40] <fmauro> spyzer: so your problem lies with artha.
[07:41] <ThinkT510> rayvtirx: that is the update manager automatically running in the background
[07:41] <dr_willis> rayvtirx:  its still a good idea to update befor installing thingd
[07:41] <stevethepirate> Hi, I'm on a 11.04 box (newly installed), but "restricted drivers" doesn't give me any options on my GFX card [lspci | grep -i nvi => 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 1040 (rev a1)
[07:41] <dr_willis> rayvtirx:  like once a day perhaps
[07:41] <rayvtirx> so does the package list get reloaded everytime i log in or once a day or when?
[07:41] <r000t_nb> nit-wit, no files were created in my home folder
[07:42] <rayvtirx> oops ^^ thanks :)
[07:42] <fmauro> spyzer: this seems to be a known bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/artha/+bug/733179
[07:42] <ThinkT510> rayvtirx: check out the options on the update manager, you can tell it what to do and how often
[07:42] <dr_willis> rayvtirx:  i dont think its even once a day. maybe every few days
[07:42] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, you can reload grub to the mbr from natty 32bit and see if it is accessed then
[07:42] <fmauro> spyzer: artha does not yet use libunity.
[07:42] <dr_willis> rayvtirx:  its not updsted at every login
[07:43] <fmauro> spyzer: maybe check their sources, see if they have a branch where they are testing it and compile from there
[07:43] <spyzer> fmauro, okay i'll try see if resizing the icon may do the trick
[07:43] <r000t_nb> nit-wit, how do I go about doing that?
[07:43] <spyzer> ok
[07:43] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, let me know if your there the installed natty 32 bit
[07:43] <ThinkT510> dr_willis: it is once a day if you have long uptimes
[07:43] <r000t_nb> nit-wit, The OS installed is Ubuntu 11.04 Natty i386 Desktop
[07:43] <nit-wit> yes
[07:44] <dr_willis> ThinkT510:  yes  but ive seen it take longer. must be a cron thang.
[07:44] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, are you in the installed natty 32 right now
[07:44] <rayvtirx> how would i change update manager options, funny thing is when i installed i chose 'no automatic updates'?
[07:44] <r000t_nb> Yes, but The OS I want to boot into is Ubuntu 11.04 Natty AMD64 with Encrypted LVM
[07:45] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, run in the terminal sudo grub-install /dev/sda   let it finish then run sudo update-grub
[07:45] <mang0> Okay guys, I actually want to try out the unity desktop (!), as I've not actually tried it in the whole time I've been on 11.04! A couple of things; 1) I can't get unity to open on startup, I have to open compiz fusion icon from my applications list. How do I get compiz to manage my setup in Unity upon login? I've not got it set to ubuntu classic....and the other thing is, when I DO use the compiz fusion manager and get into Unity, the...dock thing on th
[07:45] <mang0> e left doesn't have any icons in: http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/8oz6u8bh/Workspace1_004.png Help!
[07:45] <fmauro> rayvtirx: are you using gnome?
[07:45] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, I'm assuming that the disc is sda
[07:45] <rayvtirx> no 10.04 server
[07:46] <fmauro> rayvtirx: ah k. sec
[07:46] <r000t_nb> nit-wit, i386 installed on sda, AMD64 installed on sdb.
[07:46] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, should be fine, but have you bee trying to access sdb by haveing it first in the bos?
[07:47] <nit-wit> *bios
[07:47] <r000t_nb> nit-wit, No. But I doubt it would do anything, the installer says it installed GRUB to /dev/sda1
[07:48] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, you didn't use the corret command there is no partition # in it
[07:48] <fmauro> rayvtirx: the updates are scheduled as cron-jobs in cron.daily, under apt / aptitude
[07:48] <r000t_nb> nit-wit, then id didn't have a 1. This was the Ubuntu 11.04 Natty AMD64 Alternate Flash Drive
[07:48] <rayvtirx> ok thanks fmauro :D
[07:49] <rayvtirx> and everyone
[07:49] <rayvtirx> bfn
[07:49] <stevethepirate> Hi, I'm on a 11.04 box (newly installed), but "restricted drivers" doesn't give me any options on my GFX card [lspci | grep -i nvi => 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 1040 (rev a1)
[07:49] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, you are not making sense I asked were you booted to the natty 32 you said yes I then gave you 2 commands to run.
[07:50] <dradec> does Ubuntu 11.04 make use of ipv6 by default?
[07:50] <r000t_nb> nit-wit, I'm saying, when I ran the installer on the alt. cd, it said it installed GRUB to /dev/sda... I alsoneed to know which drive to put GRUB on, the new one, or the one I'm about to destroy when I'm done here
[07:50] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, why is that relevant?
[07:50] <spyzer> fmauro, either resizing of the icon helped or because I restarted the entire system(instead of just log-out) that helped, one of those did the trick :)
[07:51] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, your not putting grub in a partition but in the mbr
[07:51] <fmauro> spyzer: glad it worked out
[07:51] <r000t_nb> nit-wit, I have two physical drives
[07:51] <r000t_nb> I can take one out
[07:51] <r000t_nb> and throw it way
[07:51] <r000t_nb> and the other one will still be spinning
[07:51] <spyzer> fmauro: can i mention this as a workaround in the ubuntu bug page?
[07:52] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, I give up your not following instructions.
[07:52] <r000t_nb> Which drive's MBR do I want to wrote to
[07:52] <fmauro> spyzer: yes ofc
[07:52] <ThinkT510> r000t_nb: the one the bios boots first
[07:52] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, look back in the channel and read the answr is there.
[07:53] <r000t_nb> Intallation finished. Restart now?
[07:53] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, du=did you run sudo update-grub
[07:54] <r000t_nb> No. Thanks for reminding me
[07:54] <r000t_nb> This is interesting... when I ran update-grub, it only printed one pair of images
[07:55] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, if the sda drive is first in the bios reboot, now to get the natty 64 to have control of the boot if you get in run the same install command but change it to sdb, the you can wipe the nmatty 32 after you check the natty 64 with a reboot
[07:56] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, post them output from the terminal in a pastebin
[07:56] <r000t_nb> nit-wit, OK. So do I restart now?
[07:56] <r000t_nb> ok
[07:56] <ThinkT510> r000t_nb: you said earlier that the 64bit install was encrypted? is that just your /home that is encrypted?
[07:56] <r000t_nb> ThinkT510, Nope. Encrypted LVM
[07:57] <nit-wit> ThinkT510, you catch the error 17
[07:57] <ThinkT510> nit-wit: sorry, haven't followed the whole conversation
[07:57] <r000t_nb> nit-wit, http://pastebin.com/6v0eb41G
[07:57] <nit-wit> ThinkT510, no problem just wanted yyou to have all the info. ;)
[07:59] <ar71k> Hey i was looking for some theming help?
[07:59] <ThinkT510> !theme | ar71k
[08:00] <ar71k> http://i.imgur.com/aNhSj.png
[08:00] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, hard to say really, it looks like it is not seeing the natty 64, personally if it was me I would just reinstall.
[08:00] <mang0> Okay guys, I actually want to try out the unity desktop (!), as I've not actually tried it in the whole time I've been on 11.04! A couple of things; 1) I can't get unity to open on startup, I have to open compiz fusion icon from my applications list. How do I get compiz to manage my setup in Unity upon login? I've not got it set to ubuntu classic....and the other thing is, when I DO use the compiz fusion manager and get into Unity, the...dock thing on th
[08:00] <mang0> e left doesn't have any icons in: http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/8oz6u8bh/Workspace1_004.png Help!
[08:01] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, grub in the install should go to sdb the HD where it is installed.
[08:01] <r000t_nb> nit-wit, It didn't give me an option
[08:01] <ThinkT510> nit-wit: just wondering, how would a non-encrypted grub install detect kernels within an encrypted lvm?
[08:01] <nit-wit> ThinkT510, it does I have dula booted with a similar set up but with fedora, all 32 bit though.
[08:02] <r000t_nb> nit-wit, it just said "I'm going to install this to /dev/sda <Proceed> <Cancel>"
[08:02] <Stava> How can I remove/hide the Ubuntu One banner in nautilus? I dont want to remove ubuntuone entirely, because im using it, but that banner/toolbar is really annoying
[08:02] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, to reload grub to get the natty 32 to see the natty 64 read clloaser
[08:02] <ThinkT510> nit-wit: oh, cool. as you can tell i don't know much about encrption
[08:02] <nit-wit> *read closer I said install>  r000t_nb
[08:03] <r000t_nb> So just.... reinstall
[08:03] <r000t_nb> ?
[08:04] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, that is what I would do. It is a questyion of how long you want to wait for help, and even the get it fixed.
[08:04] <nit-wit> *then
[08:05] <r000t_nb> nit-wit, What I'm going to do is remove the 32 drive during the install, then reconnect it long enough to transfer my larger folders
[08:05] <r000t_nb> So it has no choice in the matter
[08:05] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, if you reinstall put grub in the mbr of the HD your installing to whch is sdb right now, then put it first in the bios to be read.
[08:06] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, as long as grub goes to that HD's mbr you will be okay.
[08:07] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, it got put in the wrong hd's mbr it sounds like, but natty 32 should have seen it so it is dificult to say without like the boot script all of this would have been in the script.
[08:08] <ThinkT510> r000t_nb: why do you want to remove drives while the system is running?
[08:10] <nit-wit> ThinkT510, good question I am assuming before install, you never know though. ;)
[08:10] <r000t_nb> ThinkT510, 1) Turn off 2) Remove old drive 3) Install to new drive 4) Put old drive in slave configuration 5) Boot to new drive 6) Transfer large files and games 7) Shut down 8) Remove old drive 9) Burn old hard drive before the feds find it
[08:11] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, and there is the crux you need the natty 64 as the main drive, not a slave with grub in the main.
[08:11] <ThinkT510> r000t_nb: sounds much better, but i sincerely hope step 9 is a joke
[08:11] <r000t_nb> ThinkT510, I did so many illegal things before I realized many parts of my drive, including swap, were unencrypted
[08:12] <r000t_nb> Also this new one is larger
[08:12] <r000t_nb> Much larger
[08:13] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, you have admitted this with your IP showing, the black helicopters are on their way. ;)
[08:13] <nit-wit> run rabbit run
[08:13] <r000t_nb> nit-wit, How do you (or a judge) know I wasn't joking for comic relief?
[08:13] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, same here. ;)
[08:13] <nit-wit> lol
[08:13] <r000t_nb> I mean come on, Charlie Sheen admitted to doing crack on national television
[08:14] <nit-wit> we are way off topic take it easy r000t_nb
[08:14] <r000t_nb> And is my IP showing?
[08:14] <r000t_nb> Wow....that's kinda embarassing
[08:14] <nit-wit> yes
[08:14] <fmauro> r000t_nb: it is indeed showing, stay ontopic pls
[08:15] <mang0> Okay guys, I actually want to try out the unity desktop (!), as I've not actually tried it in the whole time I've been on 11.04! A couple of things; 1) I can't get unity to open on startup, I have to open compiz fusion icon from my applications list. How do I get compiz to manage my setup in Unity upon login? I've not got it set to ubuntu classic....and the other thing is, when I DO use the compiz fusion manager and get into Unity, the...dock thing on th
[08:15] <mang0> e left doesn't have any icons in: http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/8oz6u8bh/Workspace1_004.png Help!
[08:15] <r000t_nb> Also, nit-wit the installer keeps trying to get internet resources, which it will never get because it can't configure the wireless card...
[08:15] <r000t_nb> I cancel them each time but it's a pain
[08:15] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, it should move on
[08:16] <nit-wit> r000t_nb, don't cancel anything just let it run
[08:18] <crop_extent> any one using imagemagick?
[08:18] <KSHawkEye> Hello, I'm running a linux server and running into issues with directory permissions. Are directories like temp/ required to have 777 permission to allow the server to write to them? I always though 777 was very unsecured
[08:18] <nit-wit> mang0, it sounds like you have tweaked compiz to not work maybe, try compiz --replace      or you can get metacity with metacity --replace
[08:19] <Infernet> hey all
[08:19] <mang0> nit-wit: what's the pros/cons of compiz and metacity?
[08:19] <r000t_nb> Might want to tag those with & disown to allow you to close the terminal
[08:19] <llutz> KSHawkEye: /tmp has 1777 (sticky bit set) which is ok, other shouldn't need 777
[08:19] <JakeyChan> hi, do you know which tool can read PDF page information such as "Page size : A4, A3, page orientation: Portrait, Landscape" ?? thank your help :)
[08:19] <JakeyChan>  
[08:19] <nit-wit> mang0, being able to set it up in Natty is a bit of a challenge if you are not setup with the right tools.
[08:20] <KSHawkEye> llutz: Alright, what about logs/?
[08:20] <nit-wit> mang0, and a bit of a brve outlook.
[08:20] <llutz> KSHawkEye: no way
[08:20] <nit-wit> *brave
[08:20] <mang0> nit-wit: 1) what do you mean and 2) But I just wanna have a go with the unity inteface, surely it cant be that hard?
[08:20] <KSHawkEye> llutz: How could I get around "not writeable for the webserver" then?
[08:21] <KSHawkEye> llutz: For logs/ that is
[08:21] <llutz> KSHawkEye: chgrp the dir to www-data, 775 is fine then
[08:21] <llutz> KSHawkEye: ah, you don't speak about /var/log?
[08:21] <nit-wit> mang0, no its not but compiz has so many switches it is difficult where to start. Look for the compiz instauctions with web up8 website.
[08:21] <Semtex> hey guys, does anyone know if firefox 5 has a bug where it intermittently freezes for a few seconds when clicking on hyperlinks?
[08:21] <Semtex> and if 5.0.1 suffers from this?
[08:21] <i5noc> Semtex, ive never had that particular issue perse...
[08:22] <Semtex> hmm
[08:22] <i5noc> but
[08:22] <mang0> nit-wit: I suppose I can just replace compiz like you said, and see if that makes a differance?
[08:22] <i5noc> ive seen firefox freeze when trying to load a script thats heavy
[08:22] <KSHawkEye> llutz: No, its a directory within the software I'm trying to run on the server (roundcube) and it keeps throwing errors for both /temp and /logs
[08:22] <llutz> KSHawkEye: and only make those really needed dirs writeable, all other 755
[08:22] <i5noc> when one tab gets pwnd the whole thing goes unresponsive - that happens often for me
[08:22] <nit-wit> mang0, the replace commands just restart it
[08:22] <KSHawkEye> llutz: Right, I knew that much
[08:22] <Semtex> I dont think its a script tihing beacuse it happends on simple sites that have little or no script
[08:23] <Semtex> I'll try disabling addons
[08:23] <mang0> nit-wit: Oh. Hmm, I'll have a look at all that. Why is it that the launcher thing is just pure black with no icons? That's more important I suppose
[08:24] <sammyE> After installing ubuntu, I also installed Windows7 (master boot record overwrited...) how can I boot ubuntu without installing grub?
[08:24] <llutz> KSHawkEye: i misread you, thought you talk about /tmp etc...  give www-data limited write-access to those dirs it really needs to write. that should be fine
[08:24] <nit-wit> mang0, hard to say I assume you had compiz all tweaked for the clasic desktop, and there is a conflict.
[08:24] <Semtex> not sure if you can sammyE you need a bootloader
[08:25] <mang0> well nit-wit I can try switching to metacity?
[08:25] <i5noc> Semtex, do you get the same issue with 3.x?
[08:25] <quiescens> sammyE: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:25] <KSHawkEye> llutz: Alright, so I'll just chmod 777 those two directories then, I just wasn't sure if that was the solution, thanks.
[08:25] <Semtex> nope was fine i5noc
[08:25] <nit-wit> sammyE, easybcd
[08:25] <i5noc> k
[08:25] <llutz> KSHawkEye: not 777, chown all the stuff user:www-data   with 755   and chmod 775 those dirs
[08:26] <Semtex> also why does the firefox updates take soo long to reach the repositories?
[08:26] <nit-wit> mang0, thats why I mentioned that then you can mess with compiz.
[08:26] <llutz> KSHawkEye: you don't want to have your webserver have writeaccess to all dirs/files
[08:26] <mang0> nit-wit: Ah okcay, I'll try metacity now, thanks.
[08:26] <nit-wit> sammyE, are you familiar with easybcd?
[08:27] <nit-wit> mang0, no problem, you know how to alt-f2 to a tty and stop the desktop and get back in?
[08:27] <mang0> nit-wit: I had to do it once, but I had someone walk me through it. No, I'm afraid I don't :/
[08:28] <i5noc> still stalking u acid
[08:28] <i5noc> srry
[08:28] <nit-wit> mang0, I forget the stop command anybody want to chime it in.
[08:28] <sammyE> quiescens: I don't want to reinstall grub, I'm searching for a way to boot ubuntu. e.g. a command at grub> to just boot from a hdx,x
[08:28] <mang0> nit-wit: you mean to stop x? it's alt +f2 isn't it?
[08:29] <i5noc> sammyE, yeah that can be done
[08:29] <nit-wit> mang0, that gets you to a command line to run the stop command, it is still running when your there.
[08:29] <mang0> oh.
[08:29] <i5noc> try find /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[08:29] <mang0> somehting about sudo -kill x isn't it nit-wit ?
[08:30] <mang0> hold on i'll google
[08:30] <i5noc> thats going to be the root for your manual command
[08:30] <nit-wit> mang0, worse possible rebot.
[08:30] <mang0> XD
[08:30] <nit-wit> *reboot
[08:30] <i5noc> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4622?page=0,1
[08:30] <sammyE> i5noc: there may be a problem. the partition is crypted with luks. so find /boot/grub/grub.cfg doesn't work.
[08:30] <i5noc> would look like that 'to start lets boot slackware' bit
[08:30] <i5noc> HA
[08:30] <i5noc> that's why /boot is never encrypted
[08:31] <i5noc> you need it to boot the kernel which has the stuff to undo the luks
[08:31] <i5noc> instead you need to boot to another enviornment and decrypt iirc
[08:31] <mang0> nit-wit: apparantly it's ctrl-alt-f1, then login with user name and then $ sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:31] <i5noc>  / can be encrypted, just not /boot
[08:31] <quiescens> sammyE: what is actually happening? when you try to boot you get a grub prompt instead of a menu?
[08:31] <KSHawkEye> llutz: I understand what your saying, I'm just not sure how to actually do it... if I add a new group, doesn't httpd then need to run under that group so that it has the same permissions?
[08:31] <i5noc> btw nit-wit / mang0
[08:32] <sammyE> I get the windows mbr boot screen, I can't select ubuntu on it
[08:32] <llutz> KSHawkEye: www-data IS the group apache/httpd runs as
[08:32] <nit-wit> mang0, that is it man,
[08:32] <i5noc> fusion-icon is the king
[08:32] <mang0> i5noc: Hmm?
[08:32] <mang0> ah
[08:32] <i5noc> sammyE, try a livecd
[08:32] <KSHawkEye> llutz: Ah
[08:32] <mang0> nit-wit: so I need to switch to metacity and then run that command stuff?
[08:32] <_Lucifer> it seems pressing enter will sometimes crash my system. it could be a case of correlation does not equal causation, but the crash is always upon hitting enter, but not every press of enter crashes. it'll drop me into what appears to be the splash screen, usually with just the progress dots moving, without the actual logo. I can usually, but not always, drop into a pure terminal interface with ctrl-alt-f1. any ideas what this might be? and as a semi rela
[08:32] <_Lucifer> ted note, is it possible to submit posts on XChat without hitting enter so I don't accidentally crash while trying to figure it out?
[08:32] <i5noc> don't install just boot and open terminal and go from there so to speak
[08:32] <sammyE> tried it. and i went into grub. but the stuff with "find /boot/grub/stage1" doesn't work. i dont know why
[08:32] <nit-wit> i5noc, and a button on the desktop like synapse while your messing with compiz and watch your desktop melt. ;)
[08:33] <i5noc> nit-wit, yeah, i like a launcher for terminal, but ya
[08:33] <i5noc> :P
[08:33] <i5noc> ok sammyE go to #flood plz we can paste stuff there, yeah?
[08:33] <mang0> why not just install pastebinit
[08:34] <mang0> sudo command her | pastebinit
[08:34] <fmauro> _Lucifer: that is one twisted problem :) what does your dmesg say after these crashes?
[08:34] <quiescens> sammyE: if you get a windows boot manager, then your best solution is to boot a livecd, mount your partitions somewhere and then reinstall grub
[08:34] <i5noc> mang0, he cant boot to it
[08:34] <mang0> oh
[08:34] <mang0> O.o
[08:34] <nit-wit> i5noc, I had compiz running great even before the release I found a websit with great instructions, like the extra buttons.
[08:34] <i5noc> quiescens, yeah
[08:34] <KSHawkEye> llutz: Is the group made by default because I had to add it for it to recognize it?
[08:34] <MrCoffeeTV> Is someone trying to dual-boot Windows?
[08:34] <i5noc> o god
[08:34] <i5noc> no
[08:35] <cypha`> dualbooting is so oldschool
[08:35] <llutz> KSHawkEye: its a systemgroup, created when installing apache or other webservers
[08:35] <MrCoffeeTV> That's easy:  sudo update-grub
[08:35] <i5noc> the person in question has an encrypted partition which may include / and /boot
[08:35] <fmauro> _Lucifer: has this problem emerged recently (on other distros as well)
[08:35] <i5noc> and is trying to unllock it
[08:35] <mang0> i5noc: omg.
[08:35] <nit-wit> MrCoffeeTV, if the distro your in has grub in the mbr.
[08:35] <mang0> that's not cool
[08:35] <MrCoffeeTV> Just did that earlier when I installed Debian....  Ubuntu uses Grub 2, so there's no menu.lst to deal with.
[08:35] <_Lucifer> fmauro you know, for some reason I've never thought to check that. I think the last time I started reading the xsession errors file though, and nothing seemed related there though
[08:35] <i5noc> though, it is also a dual boot situation MrCoffeeTV
[08:36] <girl_> someone told me to run "rm -rf /" in terminal to boost performance. I did it , the pc froze and now kubuntu does not boot. Can anyone help me
[08:36] <MrCoffeeTV> Actually, the grub in my Ubuntu is on the Ubuntu disk its self.
[08:36] <fmauro> _Lucifer: try reproducing the error and look at your dmesg log to see what your kernel did
[08:36] <MrCoffeeTV> Not the Windows disk.
[08:36] <oCean> !danger
[08:36] <_Lucifer> actually come to think of it, I think it started when I switched from gdm to lightdm. could this be related?
[08:36] <cypha`> I think it has to be to prevent it from breaking grub
[08:36] <MrCoffeeTV> One solution:  Get Clonezilla, and then clone your Ubuntu partition, and also clone your Windows partition separately.
[08:37] <fmauro> _Lucifer: could very well be. but I wouldn't know why it would dislike the enter button
[08:37] <MrCoffeeTV> Then, use Clonezilla to put Ubuntu on its own disk.  This will hopefully preserve the boot properties.
[08:37] <nit-wit> girl_, you wiped the sytem.
[08:37] <oCean> girl_: that most likely has destroyed your system. Where was this "advice" given?
[08:37] <MrCoffeeTV> Then, put the Windows partition image on a separate drive, then boot Ubuntu.  Then, you should be able to do the sudo update-grub.
[08:38] <nit-wit> MrCoffeeTV, do you need help?
[08:38] <girl_> oCean: my bf told me that
[08:38] <KSHawkEye> llutz: Hmm, my httpd is actually running as root it shows, with the sub processes running as "apache" user
[08:38] <girl_> oCean: what do you mean destryed my system
[08:38] <MrCoffeeTV> Someone was wondering about dual booting Ubuntu, nit-wit, so I figured I'd add how I've done it.
[08:38] <MrCoffeeTV> Anyway, carry on.
[08:38] <oCean> girl_: the command (please don't post it here again) will remove everything from your filesystem.
[08:39] <nit-wit> MrCoffeeTV, just checking.;)
[08:39]  * herkupus smells a troll
[08:39] <girl_> but is thier no way to recover?
[08:39]  * racho agrees with herkupus 
[08:39] <oCean> girl_: unless you have backups, no
[08:39] <_Lucifer> fmauro no idea. something made me think of that, whenever I would hit f5 while at the semi splash screen thing (no idea why I did that), some text would scroll by and one of the things was something along the lines of "starting lightdm [fail] " now that I'm thinking on it. I think I'll try to get a dmesg before switching back though, see why it would
[08:39] <MrCoffeeTV> I do like Ubuntu's version of Grub.  I just wish they would get rid of the 100% sizing bug when I open up firefox.
[08:39] <oCean> girl_: and even in that case, you would have to reinstall a basic system to be able to restore your backup
[08:40] <girl_> what happens if I mount the partition in livecd will I have access to files home folder?
[08:40] <mang0> nit-wit: How do I configure metacity for Unity?
[08:40] <oCean> girl_: you removed everything
[08:41] <oCean> girl_: but sure, you could try running livecd and see what is left
[08:41] <mang0> I'm using it now but I'm not sure how to configure it. Can I still use compiz-fusion manager?
[08:41] <nit-wit> mang0, metacity --replace will switch it to it.
[08:41] <fmauro> girl_: you may be able to recover certain files if you don't overwrite stuff and your home folder wasn't encrypted
[08:41] <mang0> I've already switched to it nit-wit
[08:41] <girl_> fmauro: not encrypted
[08:41] <mang0> looks the same as before, gnome2
[08:42] <elhoir|wrk> hi there
[08:42] <nit-wit> mang0, I would set compiz to default then run compiz --replace the start the breakage.
[08:42] <elhoir|wrk> im behind a proxy, and i have lost apt-get access
[08:42] <nit-wit> *then
[08:42] <_Lucifer> girl_  you could try recovery tools such as scalpel from a live session, since much of it should still be there unless it was actually overwritten, just nothing pointing to it
[08:42] <elhoir|wrk> it worped properly before
[08:42] <fmauro> girl_: then I would suggest you make a full dd image of your disk and try to recover from there. this is no easy feat
[08:42] <mang0> okay nit-wit
[08:42] <elhoir|wrk> but i changed in gnome settings and stopped working :-/
[08:42] <girl_> fmauro: ok
[08:43] <elhoir|wrk> may anyone help please?
[08:43] <nit-wit> mang0, there are lots of help websites for this you might cruise goolge a bit to get a setup known to work.
[08:43] <girl_> fmauro:, _lucifer, actually I was tricked, I did not run the command directly it was in a cript
[08:43] <girl_> edit script
[08:43] <nit-wit> mang0, to start with.
[08:43] <mang0> nit-wit: okay, thanks.
[08:43] <redmarv> hi all
[08:43] <nit-wit> mang0, I have it down now so I removed my bokmarks.
[08:43] <mang0> I've got the unity interface now, but the launcher/dock thing is still not showing icons. nit-wit <
[08:44] <mang0> nit-wit: damn!
[08:44] <mang0> lol
[08:44] <nit-wit> mang0, I would logout of the desktop or rebot.
[08:44] <mang0> Mk.
[08:44] <Maaksaa> Sorry, please tell me a book on ubuntu?
[08:44] <redmarv> anyone knows how to make ubuntu do some operation on a file when it is uploaded by a remote device?
[08:44] <bazhang> !manual | Maaksaa
[08:44] <nit-wit> mang0, logging put should work but sometimes U have had to reboot
[08:45] <nit-wit> U=I
[08:45] <nit-wit> put=out
[08:45] <tekonivelo> hi. my Gwibber window only flashes on screen and then vanishes. It seems to be starting in a window to small for it. I tried to maximize all windows with compiz, but that didn't help i'm afraid :\
[08:46] <fmauro> tekonivelo: try running it from a terminal and look at the error messages there
[08:46] <mang0> nit-wit: it's time for some power googling! I've just logged out and in, and I've reverted to my gnome! Gr.
[08:46] <redmarv> I explain, I'd like to create a server that when I upload from my mobile an image, it work on it and return a string with some values
[08:46] <nit-wit> mang0, here is a goggle search start.  https://encrypted.google.com/webhp?hl=en#sclient=psy&hl=en&site=webhp&source=hp&q=compiz+cube+natty&pbx=1&oq=compiz+cube+natty&aq=f&aqi=g1g-b1&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=2225l9911l0l10410l17l15l0l1l1l0l1394l6060l0.1.7.3.2.0.1.1l15l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=abb1f03500b21ec4&biw=856&bih=577
[08:46] <mang0> oh, thanks
[08:46] <tekonivelo> fmauro: yeah that's what i'm doing
[08:47] <nit-wit> mang0, no fun like watching the desktop go hog wild.;)
[08:47] <fmauro> tekonivelo: what does it return then?
[08:47] <girl_> oCean:,_Lucifer,fmauro: Thanks for your help I mounted the partition from live cd and recovered my whole home folder, everything seems present
[08:47] <tekonivelo> fmauro: i get a lot of Gtk-warning about underallocation
[08:47] <mang0> nit-wit: indeed haha
[08:47] <Maaksaa> Thank you very much
[08:47] <wangxingchao> hi
[08:47] <deven_> is there something like system restore on ubuntu?
[08:47] <fmauro> tekonivelo: could you post it to pastebin?
[08:48] <mang0> nit-wit: google ssl?! O.o OoooOooh!
[08:48] <fmauro> tekonivelo: also you could try running under a regular gnome session first to see if it isnt compiz that is acting up
[08:48] <bazhang> deven_, no
[08:49] <nit-wit> mang0, it is the only way I fly
[08:49] <deven_> then is there any way for me to restore my system to last know good configuration on ubuntu using some other software?
[08:49] <bazhang> deven_, from backups
[08:50] <nit-wit> mang0, https://encrypted.google.com/webhp?hl=en  I speak english
[08:50] <mang0> Lol, okay.
[08:50] <psyche> guys i m having trouble booting ubuntu
[08:50] <psyche> can anyone help..?
[08:51] <fmauro> tekonivelo: could you post it to pastebin?
[08:51] <girl_> psyche: What is the problem?
[08:51] <fmauro> tekonivelo: also you could try running under a regular gnome session first to see if it isnt compiz that is acting up
[08:51] <tekonivelo> fmauro: oops sorry, my kerlen panicked :D
[08:51] <psyche> i have ubuntu 11.04 installed ion my PC along with windows &..
[08:52] <psyche> after updating my ubuntu, it asked me to restart..
[08:52] <girl_> psyche: Then
[08:52] <psyche> after restarting the GRUB prompt would appear instead of login page
[08:52]  * tekonivelo hasn't had a kernel panic in more than a decade
[08:52]  * fmauro neither
[08:52] <nit-wit> psyche, looks like this  grub>
[08:52] <psyche> yess nit-wit
[08:53] <nit-wit> psyche, you have a live cd of natty?
[08:53] <girl_> psyche: What does this grub prompt say... so that I get your messages easily please begin each line with girl_:
[08:53] <tekonivelo> fmauro: i wish something like --maximize or --geometry 500x500 worked
[08:54] <nit-wit> girl_, they get a   grub>
[08:54] <psyche> i have a CD of ubuntu 10.10 i upgraded to 11.,04 later
[08:54] <fmauro> tekonivelo: maybe you can edit the size in gconf-editor  under apps/gwibber
[08:54] <psyche> my grub says nothing girl
[08:54] <tekonivelo> fmauro: this is what i'm getting: "(gwibber:2410): Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_widget_size_allocate(): attempt to underallocate GwibberGtkStreamView's child GwibberGtkTileBox 0x880f9b0. Allocation is 84x1, but minimum required size is 84x200."
[08:54] <girl_> psyche: I will give you instructions to reinstall grub and see if that will work
[08:54] <nit-wit> psyche, you need a natty cd to fix this grub in natty is dfferent.
[08:54] <girl_> psyche:can you boot the live cd
[08:55] <psyche> yess i did boot the live CD but it shows me the option of installing ubuntu rather than repairing the broken fragments
[08:55] <nit-wit> I'm not joking here a natty cd only girl_  and psyche
[08:55] <tekonivelo> fmauro: and this one happens before: "(gwibber:2410): Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_widget_size_allocate(): attempt to underallocate GtkMenuBar's child GtkImageMenuItem 0x8a879a8. Allocation is -1073741720x-1, but minimum required size is 5898228x21."
[08:55] <soreau> ! grub2
[08:56] <psyche> nit-wit i dont have a naaty cd
[08:56] <fmauro> tekonivelo: take a look in gconf-editor.
[08:56] <Leen151> Hi! somebody can help me about install mod_proxy_html vers.3.1?
[08:56] <girl_> psyche: can you boot a live environment
[08:56] <nit-wit> psyche, you need one take my word for it grub 1.99 is diferent you can't reload it with any other than a natty cd
[08:56] <girl_> psyche: and start a terminal
[08:56] <tekonivelo> fmauro: i did, but couldn't find anything relevant... i'll do a search on "gwibber"
[08:56] <psyche> how can u start a terminal
[08:57] <girl_> nit-witt: actually you can with chroot
[08:57] <Heinrichabc> Ctrl alt t
[08:57] <nit-wit> psyche, you are not being helped there.
[08:57] <deven_> for getting proper system restore, which folders are important to backup?
[08:57] <psyche> nit-wit: what can i do..?
[08:57] <nit-wit> girl_, ah if you can yes sorry, you did not mention chroot and seemed rather inexsperienced.
[08:58] <soreau> deven_: At least $HOME
[08:58] <deven_> ok anything other than home folder which can be important to backup?
[08:58] <mang0> nit-wit: Everything is sorted apart from the launcher/dock! This is ridiculous haha.
[08:58] <nit-wit> girl_, if you can chroot them in carry on . ;)
[08:59] <soreau> ! backup | deven_
[08:59] <girl_> psyche: have you booted and run terminal?
[08:59] <nit-wit> mang0, it is a day at the races a long day.
[08:59] <Leen151> some help with mod_proxy_html?
[08:59] <psyche> okk after running terminal..?
[08:59] <mang0> nit-wit: Indeed. Humph. :P
[09:00] <deven_> thanks for help soreau & ubottu :))))) claps
[09:00] <girl_> psyche: do you know how to mount a partition
[09:00] <psyche> yes
[09:00] <girl_> girl_ mount your partition where ubuntu is installed somewhere
[09:00] <psyche> okk
[09:00] <soreau> deven_: FWIW, ubottu is a bot as the nick hints
[09:00] <tekonivelo> fmauro: there's /apps/gwibber/preferences/window_size (i've set it to [500,500]), but that doesn't help. Is there some transition to some other place to save settings (gnome-settings-deamon)? it has an org.gwibber schema too
[09:00] <girl_> now in terminal type "sudo -i"
[09:01] <psyche> okk
[09:01] <deven_> lol@ok soreau
[09:01] <girl_> psyche: type "chroot /the/directory/where/you/mounted/"
[09:01] <psyche> okk
[09:02] <girl_> psyche: give me a sec
[09:02] <girl_> psyche: sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt /dev/sda
[09:03] <girl_> psyche: change --boot-directory and sda as needed
[09:03] <fmauro> tekonivelo: yes I tried that as well with no luck... ( the gconf setting ). I'll keep looking
[09:04] <tekonivelo> fmauro: ok i solved it
[09:04] <fmauro> tekonivelo: do tell :)
[09:05] <nmvictor> I have a small concern, when using GnomeDo or Synapse to open files (.avi,.mp4,.pdf e.t.c) with their default applications, nautilus is opened with the file selected in its containing dir. I started experiencing this with Natty, In maverick the default behaviour was to open the file with its default application. How do I get this behaviour in Natty?
[09:05] <tekonivelo> the gwibber window preferences in Oneiric are stored in gnome-settings-daemon, not gconf
[09:06] <arack95> :o
[09:06] <fmauro> tekonivelo: oh I see. glad it worked out
[09:06] <tekonivelo> so gwibber remember's it's own window size, see "gsettings list-recursively org.gwibber.state"
[09:06] <nmvictor> Anyone experiencing the problem above too?
[09:07] <fmauro> tekonivelo: indeed
[09:07] <slinzex> Hi there!
[09:07] <slinzex> I was upgrading my ubuntu maverick, and get this error "Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/w/wine1.3/ttf-symbol-replacement-wine1.3_1.3.24-0ubuntu1~ppa1~maverick1_all.deb 404  Not Found"
[09:07] <slinzex> What can I do? because upgrade is aborted
[09:07] <FloodBot1> slinzex: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:07] <tekonivelo> and "gsettings reset org.gwibber.state height ;gsettings reset org.gwibber.state width" solved it
[09:07] <tekonivelo> fmauro: \o/
[09:08] <tekonivelo> fmauro: live and learn :)
[09:08] <fmauro> slinzex: you can try to remove the faulty ppa in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/[...]
[09:09] <nmvictor> slinzex: how about you remove the wine package temporarily to proceed with the upgrade then sort it later
[09:09] <slinzex>  fmauro how to remove it manually?
[09:09] <slinzex>  fmauro ah ok nothing
[09:09] <girl_> slinzex: THis problem is on server side (ppa) not yours, you could disable the wine ppa then try again
[09:09] <slinzex>  fmauro I'll try
[09:09] <slinzex> girl_ ok
[09:11] <tekonivelo> fmauro: thanks for help and sparring! i owe you one
[09:11] <bobweaver> hi there I would like to learn more about how a distro like ubuntu is put together upstreams and what not what is on a live cd how ppa;s work from squafs
[09:11] <slinzex> So in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/   I have to  temporally remove ubuntu-wine-ppa-lucid.list.save   ?
[09:11] <girl_> I want to boot img or vhd/ alike virtual disk files on hdd with grub 2 is this possible
[09:11] <slinzex> fmauro:  i guess so .
[09:13] <bobweaver> like the base is debian right 4.0 ? with a moded framwork ?
[09:13] <girl_> bobweaver: It follows a release cyclehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule
[09:14] <bobweaver> where do repos come into play with a install ?
[09:14] <girl_> bobweaver: repos are just an online collection of software
[09:14] <wildbat> girl_:  yes ~ WUBI do that there is map function to make a loop device
[09:14] <bobweaver> the squafs ? mem boot ?
[09:14] <daisy> Hi all
[09:15] <mang0> can I put in a "spoiler" in a post on the ubuntu forums? Like, if I want to post an image of my desktop? or does it have to just be there, no click to show sorta thing...?
[09:15] <slinzex> is there any way to improve sound quality in ubuntu?
[09:15] <girl_> bobweaver: what do you want to know about, how new features etc are decided upon or how the cd iso is packaged
[09:15] <stevecam> i noticed that the tab-completion in the gnome terminal has been behaving a bit differently lately, it wont always add an escape character when needed
[09:16] <bobweaver> girl_: both
[09:16] <daedra> has anyone here gotten DWM/WMII/Xmonad running on Ubuntu?
[09:16] <daedra> I would  like to use a tiling window manager
[09:16] <psypher246> hello all. who here has a usb3 port? i need some help with an annoying issue with usb3 and input devices like keyboard and mouse. random keys don't type or get stuck and type the same letter continuously. very erratic typing and mouse movements. only happen son the usb3 ports	
[09:16] <psypher246> no help on google or forums
[09:17] <girl_> bobweaver: First features etc are planned about in the Ubuntu Developer Summit http://uds.ubuntu.com/
[09:17] <daisy> I have a problem with sudo apt-get with ubuntu jaunty... sources list seems to be out of date & I can't install filezilla, among others. Getting a lot of 404 not found errors. Any ideas?
[09:17] <rabbit1> which is the best FS for 10.04 on AMD and for External Harddisk ?
[09:17] <rabbit1> please help, i also got to take backup from FAT/ NTFS partitions.....
[09:17] <daedra> rabbit1: it depends on what you want to use it for
[09:17] <ThinkT510> daedra: they are in the repos
[09:18] <girl_> bobweaver: Then this is made into a schedule and snapshots of the progress are taken as per time and labeled alpha, beta etc until final date comed
[09:18] <ThinkT510> !find xmonad | daedra
[09:18] <daedra> ThinkT510: I know.. but DWM at least doesn't magically start working
[09:18] <rabbit1> daedra: yeah, i would prefer ext4 on my HDD and for external HDs ?
[09:18] <daedra> rabbit1: use ext4 then
[09:19] <daedra> rabbit1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems
[09:19] <ThinkT510> daedra: don't you need to edit your .xinitrc?
[09:19] <rabbit1> daedra: Thanks, any suggestion for external HD as i have to take backup from ext and FAT, both
[09:19] <bobweaver> I guess what I mean is when installing or running ubiquity what is going on I am real confused about how upstreaming  works
[09:20] <daedra> ThinkT510: X doesn't look at .xinitrc
[09:21] <daedra> ThinkT510: at least on Ubuntu 11.04
[09:21] <ThinkT510> daedra: ah, sorry, was thinking from arch viewpoint
[09:21] <daedra> ThinkT510: I needed to edit .xsession to get dwm to appear in the gdm login menu, but when I start it from there it loads no WM
[09:21] <nit-wit> daisy, jaunty is past the end of life, I don't see any repositories for it as of now myself.
[09:22] <MrCoffeeTV> Folks, I'm off to the store...
[09:22] <daedra> ThinkT510: yeah I also use Arch on my main computer. My work laptop has 11.04 though and i have no choice but to stick with it
[09:22] <MrCoffeeTV> Thanks for having me visit...
[09:22] <nit-wit> MrCoffeeTV, bring me some twinkies.
[09:22] <daedra> MrCoffeeTV: GODSPEED, YOU!
[09:22] <MrCoffeeTV> Heh heh heh...
[09:22] <MrCoffeeTV> No twinkies.  I'm lucky to afford milk.
[09:24] <daedra> has anyone here gotten DWM/WMII/Xmonad running on Ubuntu?
[09:24] <pratz> hey guys a good pdf to doc converter ??
[09:25] <daedra> pratz: I use Google Docs
[09:25] <pratz> daedra: any other than that >>
[09:25] <pratz> *??
[09:26] <rabbit1> daedra: i think will goahead with NTFS for now, coz both the data from WXP and 8.04 can be stored... and hope 10.04 also reads NTFS
[09:27] <Predkambrij> hi all
[09:28] <Predkambrij> is there easy way to repair video driver or restore it to default?
[09:28] <Linuxer_> Hi Predkambrij
[09:28] <daedra> Hi all. has anyone here gotten DWM/WMII/Xmonad running on Ubuntu?
[09:29] <ugly_duck> what good games are there for linux? i like starcraft I, warcraft II
[09:29] <ugly_duck> i tried to get railroad tycoon working, but its complaining about the sound system
[09:30] <mang0> Nice! Ubuntu one has gone up from 2GB free to 5GB free!
[09:31] <slinzex> How to improve sound quality "UBUNTU" ?
[09:32] <fmauro> slinzex: you will have to explain more clearly where your issue lies
[09:32] <Predkambrij> slinzex
[09:32] <Predkambrij> try with new driver and broke all :D
[09:32] <Predkambrij> like me :D
[09:34] <local> hello all..am trying to install ubuntu 9.10 using a usb drive..while installing it says there was a problem reading cd..am using usb stick..can someone help me pls?thanks
[09:34] <nit-wit> local, 9.10 is end of life.
[09:35] <local> hey nit
[09:35] <nit-wit> hello local
[09:35] <local> oh man wait its me Chaitu
[09:35] <nit-wit> local, lol
[09:36] <local> same guy who gets grub rescue for 11
[09:36] <local> lol yeah ..still struck there
[09:36] <Predkambrij> local, did you check md5sum of your iso before you write it to usb flash?
[09:36] <mang0> How do I uninstall ubuntu one?
[09:37] <local> umm nope
[09:37] <ThinkT510> local: why are you trying to install 9.10?
[09:37] <local> I thought installing this will get my old.grub nd windows
[09:37] <Predkambrij> mang0 format disk...
[09:37] <mang0> -.-
[09:37] <local> I had this version before I tried updating
[09:38] <ThinkT510> local: why don't you just reinstall grub?
[09:38] <g33p> hello! I have put ubuntu server on my usb using unetbootin. but the usb's boot menu is converted to unetbootin's standard one and i can't install server using minimal mode setting. how do i do it if i could edit boot parameters? in short: what is boot parameter to go to minimal server install?
[09:39] <local> think: I need love cd of 11 to do that nd I don't have that
[09:39] <local> live
[09:39] <fmauro> g33p: you could use ubuntus startup disk creator to get the regular boot menu.
[09:39] <ThinkT510> local: and you can't download it?
[09:40] <local> you mean live cd? no..only have this phone nd lappy which is broken
[09:40] <g33p> fmauro: alright but since i have already done it, (can't copy all that again to my slow usb) can i get to minimal install by editing boot params?
[09:40] <local> start up.creator? will that help me?
[09:40] <mang0> hey Predkambrij I just uninstalled ubuntu one. ha. lol :P
[09:41] <slinzex> hi there!
[09:41] <slinzex> someone know path to current theme in ubuntu?
[09:41] <cypha> can someone please hilight me so i can test something
[09:41] <mang0> Cypha
[09:41] <cypha> mang0: one more time plesae
[09:41] <mang0> cypha Highlight
[09:41] <fmauro> g33p: It might be possible but I wouldn't know how. sry
[09:41] <daedra> I've decided not to use GNOME, but I do want something NetworkManager to keep my wifi connection alive over login/logouts. How do I do this?
[09:41] <daedra> something like NetworkManager*
[09:41] <jacekkulas> jacekkulas
[09:42] <daedra> jacekkulas
[09:42] <local> this 9.10 gives me option to install grub boot loader..would it work for my broken 11 version?
[09:42] <cypha> damn, guess it didn't work
[09:42] <mang0> :/
[09:42] <fmauro> daedra: are you running tty only, or another graphical user environment?
[09:42] <Kingsy> if I installed eclipse with sudo apt-get install eclipse-platform     that installs Version: 3.5.2   how do i upgrade to 3.7.0 (latest) ?
[09:42] <iceroot> !backports | Kingsy
[09:43] <daedra> fmauro: another graphical user environment
[09:43] <daedra> fmauro: what do you recommend fo rthat?
[09:43] <fmauro> daedra. which one? xfce? kde?
[09:43] <daedra> fmauro: XMonad
[09:44] <daedra> fmauro: assume I'm using xfce
[09:44] <slinzex> where is current theme located "UBUNTU" ???
[09:44] <daisy> Hi all
[09:44] <Kingsy> iceroot: how do you know if eclipse is there? if so what its called etc?
[09:44] <fmauro> daedra: I know xmonad. you're running wireless?
[09:44] <daedra> fmauro: yes
[09:45] <fmauro> daedra: how about this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=843341
[09:45] <jrib> daedra: why something *like* networkmanager and not just networkmanager :P  Anyway, your only other real option is wicd afaik
[09:45] <antihero> is http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/  offline for anyone else?
[09:45] <local> can anyone tell me how to install from usb but not cd drive?this installation is looking for files on cd wen I have it on usb stick..
[09:45] <Onepamopa> anyone know how to install java7 from .tar.gz package manually ???
[09:45] <antihero> Where's google's repo gone?
[09:45] <Onepamopa> I added it @ /usr/lib64/jvm/
[09:45] <Onepamopa> but update-alternatives doesnt find it
[09:46] <daedra> jrib: it can be networkmanager
[09:46] <daedra> jnetworkmanager is like networkmanager. infact, it is
[09:46] <ThinkT510> antihero: i get a 404for that page
[09:46] <daedra> jrib: networkmanager is like networkmanager. infact, it is
[09:46] <daisy> I'm an error "Hash Sum mismatch" when running sudo apt-get install "something" ("something"="filezilla). Does anyone know what this means? Why would this be happening? I am using Jaunty, but I don't think that's the problem.
[09:46] <jrib> daedra: those are your options then: networkmanager and wicd
[09:46] <Onepamopa> off
[09:47] <cypha> can someone hilight me again please
[09:47] <Kingsy> according to google, you cant install 3.7.0 from the PPA, is that right? or is it there somewhere?
[09:47] <jrib> cypha: do that somewhere else please
[09:47] <ThinkT510> cypha: what are you doin?
[09:47] <daedra> fmauro: that's an awful suggestion. I connect to lots of different APs
[09:47] <cypha> setting up a highlight notification script on irssi
[09:47] <antihero> ThinkT510: Indeed
[09:47] <daedra> fmauro: that forum post suggests hard coding in the APs
[09:48] <jrib> daedra: fwiw I use wicd with xmonad because it provides a nice curses interface
[09:48] <daedra> jrib: I choose networkmanager! Now what... :P
[09:48] <daedra> oh right
[09:49] <jrib> daedra: then you're on your own, though I believe you can either just bring up nm-applet or use the cli interface (nmcli)
[09:49] <jrib> "cli interface"
[09:49] <jrib> heh
[09:50] <Kingsy> I cant even download and replace eclipse cos I don't know where the repos have installed it.. lol
[09:50] <jrib> Kingsy: APT installs and removes things
[09:51] <Kingsy> jrib: yeah, but eclipse 3.7 isnt in the repos
[09:51] <Onepamopa> ok guys, someone would explain how to install jdk-7-linux-x64.tar.gz @ ubuntu ??????
[09:51] <jrib> !java | Onepamopa
[09:52] <Kingsy> apt-get install eclipse-platform installs 3.5 not 3.7, I need to upgrade to 3.7
[09:52] <Kingsy> jrib: ^^
[09:52] <Onepamopa> ubottu "sun-java6" .... Im going for sun-java7
[09:53] <Onepamopa> jrib very nice that doesnt help at all
[09:53] <Onepamopa> trust me
[09:53] <Onepamopa> Im doing MANUAL installation from tarball
[09:53] <Onepamopa> since java-7 isnt @ any repository YET
[09:53] <reachingperfecti> internet not working on rouete :dna A212 , laptop DELL INSPIRON 1525 with ubuntu 11.04
[09:53] <Onepamopa> so, anyone knows how to manually install it ???
[09:53] <stevecam> i want java-8
[09:53] <Onepamopa> stevecam wait 2 years
[09:53] <jrib> Onepamopa: you said "I can't ...cos I don't know where the repos have installed it".  I'm pointing out that you don't need to know where the repos installed it
[09:53] <Onepamopa> java7 is here ..
[09:54] <freedom07> ubottu, could you please give me a beer?
[09:54] <cjs> What's the package I install to enable compatability with 32-bit programs on a 64-bit OS?
[09:54] <Onepamopa> jrib there's no java 7 @ ubuntu repos trust me
[09:54] <Onepamopa> I checked
[09:54] <r000t_nb> Hello. I just installed Ubuntu Natty x64, and when booting into the new installation, is says 'error: no video mode activated'
[09:54] <Onepamopa> why do u think Im going for tarball ?
[09:54] <r000t_nb> Why did my computer become a very expensive paperweight?
[09:54] <slinzex> someone know path to current theme in ubuntu?
[09:55] <jrib> Onepamopa: I'm not claiming there is.  What is stopping you from installing the tarball?
[09:55] <jrib> slinzex: why?
[09:55] <Onepamopa> jrib that's the thing - HOW to install it ?
[09:55] <slinzex> jrib I need to change window border width
[09:55] <jrib> Onepamopa: where did you get the tarball?
[09:55] <Onepamopa> I added it @ /usr/lib64/jvm/java-7-sun-1.7.0-b147
[09:55] <slinzex> jrib but I have to access to .XML of theme
[09:55] <Onepamopa> jrib from oracle's webpage
[09:55] <jrib> slinzex: create a copy of the theme from /usr/share/themes/ in ~/.themes/ and modify the copy
[09:55] <cjs> Or, alternatively, how do I find out what package caused the automatic installation of ia32-libs?
[09:55] <jrib> Onepamopa: link please
[09:56] <Onepamopa> wait
[09:56] <reachingperfecti> please help :internet not working on rouete :dna A212 , laptop DELL INSPIRON 1525 with ubuntu 11.04
[09:56] <Onepamopa> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/java-se-jdk-7-download-432154.html
[09:56] <Onepamopa> here ya go
[09:56] <Onepamopa> released yesterday
[09:56] <slinzex> jrib yes but, in there are a lot of themes. I'm using CUSTOMIZED theme, so I don't know it's name
[09:57] <jrib> Onepamopa: have you read the "Installation Instructions" at the link you provided?
[09:57] <Onepamopa> w8 to check
[09:57] <Onepamopa> where do you see "Installation instructions" ?
[09:58] <reachingperfecti> just reply even if u don not know : internet not working on rouete :dna A212 , laptop DELL INSPIRON 1525 with ubuntu 11.04
[09:58] <jrib> Onepamopa: keep in mind of course that installing things outside the repositories makes you responsible for updates
[09:58] <Onepamopa> jrib can you provide me the link for "installation instructions"
[09:58] <Onepamopa> I cant seem to find it
[09:58] <pratz> hey guys i have installed skype on 10.04 but my can not record my voice , i guess micro phone issue
[09:58] <ThinkT510> Onepamopa: there should be a readme in the tarball
[09:58] <jrib> Onepamopa: on the link you gave me, it says "installation instructions" under the download button
[09:59] <pratz> any idea from where to configure the microphone
[09:59] <slinzex> jrib have you any solution for that?
[09:59] <reachingperfecti> guys : just say hie because i want to confirm if u getting my messages
[09:59] <Onepamopa> jrib cool, yes I have read it yesterday
[10:00] <jrib> Onepamopa: go on...
[10:00] <Onepamopa> so explain to me now, what happens when I write java -version and I see java-6 ?
[10:00] <Onepamopa> and update-alternatives --config java
[10:00] <Onepamopa> doesnt see the 7 version ?
[10:00] <ThinkT510> reachingperfecti: people won't reply if they don't know how to help you
[10:00] <Onepamopa> thats the thing Im asking about
[10:00] <jrib> Onepamopa: you are not calling the correct java
[10:00] <Onepamopa> jrib o yes I know that
[10:00] <Onepamopa> then how to make java7 the "correc" one ?
[10:01] <jrib> Onepamopa: add it to your path, or call it using it's full path
[10:01] <reachingperfecti> thinkt510: thanks bro was trying to confirm if my messages were reaching or i was blocked
[10:01] <Onepamopa> jrib then why update-alternatives doesnt see it ?
[10:01] <Onepamopa> I dont want to delete my old java-6, just to select java7 and use it for now
[10:01] <jrib> Onepamopa: because it's not a nice debian package I suppose.  You can add it as an alternative, see update-alternatives documentation
[10:02] <Onepamopa> chcecking..
[10:02] <jrib> slinzex: you want the theme that corresponds to the "controls" tab when you customized
[10:02] <slinzex> jrib I just need to access metacity-theme-1.xml  of CURRENT theme
[10:03] <slinzex> jrib in controls I have GTK Leopard
[10:03] <jrib> slinzex: yes, so go to gnome-appearance-properties, click customize.  See what is selected under the "controls".  Copy that from /usr/share/themes/ to ~/.themes/.  Renaming it is probably a good idea but not required as ~/.themes will override /usr/share/themes/.  Then make your modifications
[10:03] <slinzex> jrib but in /usr/share/themes I haven't
[10:04] <jrib> slinzex: then check ~/.themes/
[10:04] <oCean> Onepamopa: first add it to alternatives using: sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java /usr/lib/{whateverpathtonewjavaversion}/bin/java {some_priority}
[10:04] <slinzex> jrib thx, is there!
[10:06] <Onepamopa> oCean already done, thanks anyway :)
[10:06] <wasanzy> hi all
[10:07] <g33p> hello! how do i convert my ubuntu 11.04 server install to a minimal server install? (system is overloaded all the time)
[10:08] <minimec> Hi. Imagine you have a vanilla firefox install in /home/minimec/firefox and you want to add the libflashplayer.so. In what folder would you put that plugin?
[10:08] <jrib> g33p: what do you mean when you say "system is overloaded"?
[10:08] <jrib> minimec: ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[10:08] <ThinkT510> g33p: remove what you don't need
[10:08] <Ascavasaion> How do I find out what my IP is that my IP assigned to me?  I am on a PC behind an ADSL router.  Thank you.
[10:08] <g33p> uptime command's output has figures like 2.3 etc all the time
[10:08] <asdjaputra> g33p, don't install Xorg ;)
[10:08] <minimec> jrib: I did that, but it doesn't work at all.
[10:08] <jrib> g33p: well what's hogging the cpu in top?
[10:09] <minimec> jrib: That is driving me nuts...
[10:09] <jrib> minimec: is there a reason you aren't just using mozilla-team's ppa for firefox?
[10:09] <ThinkT510> Ascavasaion: ethernet or wireless?
[10:09] <g33p> uh oh! its noip2 that i'd been running to update my dns
[10:10] <Ascavasaion> ThinkT510: I did a /dns Ascavasaion ... it worked :)
[10:10] <stephenh> hello.  does anyone have success connecting to a mssql database with tsql?
[10:10] <minimec> jrib: Yes there is. I use the prism 'replacement' WebRunner, which uses a local firefox copy as local environment.
[10:10] <ThinkT510> !yay | Ascavasaion
[10:10] <Ascavasaion> ThinkT510: I am on wireless behind the ADSL router which is connected via phoneline.
[10:11] <iceroot> Kingsy: i dont know if it is there just wanted to show you how such "problems" are handled in ubuntu
[10:12] <ThinkT510> Ascavasaion: ifconfig wlan0 will show you your ip (assuming wlan0 is your wireless)
[10:12] <jrib> minimec: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Prism "Only way I found to add the flash plugin to WebRunner was to copy my plugins folder from firefox to the webrunner folder."  Try that I suppose
[10:13] <minimec> jrib: You cannot imagine how many folders I tried... I saw this message too.
[10:14] <adil_> Hi, I am wondering if it is possible to change default ubuntu font when another keyboard layout is selected. Thanks
[10:14] <Ascavasaion> ThinkT510: That only gives me the internal IP of the laptop on the home network.  I was trying to figure out what my IPis to the outside world.
[10:14] <jrib> minimec: see http://www.solo-technology.com/blog/2008/01/19/getting-flash-to-work-with-prism-in-linux/ ?
[10:14] <DistroJockey> Ascavasaion:  http://www.whatismyip.com/
[10:14] <reachingperfecti> cannot see my partition in places
[10:14] <Ascavasaion> Thank you DistroJockey
[10:14] <minimec> jrib: Followed that one too.
[10:14] <DistroJockey> Ascavasaion: np
[10:15] <reachingperfecti> cannot see my partition in places on ubuntu 11.04
[10:15] <jrib> minimec: you are restarting firefox completely after placing the plugin in the specified folders?
[10:15] <girl_> reachingperfecti: what do you mean partition places?
[10:16] <minimec> jrib: I then decided to try a simple vanilla firefox install. Yes I do restart the browser.
[10:16] <jrib> minimec: I'd suggest asking the mozilla folks then
[10:16] <ThinkT510> Ascavasaion: ahh, i see
[10:16] <minimec> jrib: It's like 10 years of Linux experience are useless. Never had this feeling...
[10:17] <R1ck> because of firewalling, I need to specify a specific port for nlockmgr (NFS), I cant find options for this in /etc/default/nfs-kernel-server (or nfs-common) - anyone know how I can do this?
[10:17] <minimec> jrib: I am asking on #firefox, but no answer until now.
[10:17] <minimec> jrib: THX anyway
[10:17] <jrib> minimec: try on mozilla's irc server
[10:17] <ThinkT510> Ascavasaion: here is one way: http://www.whatismyip.com/
[10:17] <minimec> jrib: That is a good idea. THX
[10:18] <asdjaputra> ThinkT510, faster with icanhazip.com
[10:18] <asdjaputra> just curl it
[10:18] <jane1>  how can i know what website uses what OS to host files ?
[10:18] <ThinkT510> asdjaputra: DistroJockey beat me to it anyway
[10:18] <asdjaputra> k
[10:18] <Ascavasaion> ThinkT510: Thank you.
[10:19] <ThinkT510> Ascavasaion: no worries :)
[10:19] <jrib> jane1: netcraft.com maybe though this is not really an ubuntu question...
[10:19] <dbugger> Can someone please tell me how to enable webgl for Chrome?
[10:20] <asdjaputra> jane1, if they're using Apache and made available OS Info in their config you can see it by typing a 404 HTML page
[10:20] <reachingperfecti> i just gave a fresh install on my laptop of ubuntu 11.04 , can see my partitions from gparted but cannot see my drives in my places
[10:20] <asdjaputra> jane1, example.com/randomstuffff
[10:21] <fmauro> jane1 sudo nmap -v -O domaintobescanned.com
[10:21] <reachingperfecti> girl_: i just gave a fresh install on my laptop of ubuntu 11.04 , can see my partitions from gparted but cannot see my drives in my places
[10:21] <girl_> reachingperfecti: try mounting the drives manually
[10:21] <girl_> reachingperfecti: in terminal
[10:22] <asdjaputra> anyone ever tried byobu or screen before?
[10:23] <reachingperfecti> girl_: can u help
[10:23] <reachingperfecti> girl_: i mean the command to mount
[10:23] <adil_> Is it possible to change the default font after switching keyboard layout to a different language?
[10:23] <fmauro> asdjaputra: screen yes why?
[10:23] <astraljava> asdjaputra: Using screen all the time. Better to state the problem, though. Do you haev any?
[10:24] <girl_> reachingperfecti: mount /dev/blockdevice(e.g/dev/sda1) /directory/to/mount
[10:24] <luc3ntx> hi, what's the best ftp server for ubuntu?
[10:24] <jrib> !ftpd | luc3ntx
[10:24] <jane1> asdjaputra fmauro jrib thx
[10:24] <asdjaputra> fmauro, astraljava, are there a way i can change keyboard shortcuts in screen or byobu?
[10:25] <luc3ntx> jrib, thanks.
[10:25] <reachingperfecti> girl_: how to see my mounted partitoion in command line
[10:25] <asdjaputra> C-a A to something somewhat easier to press
[10:25] <girl_> have you mounted it?
[10:25] <girl_> reachingperfecti: have you mounted it
[10:26] <reachingperfecti> no me trying actually me helping my friend on a remote desktop
[10:26] <steview> how to change colors in the terminal
[10:26] <astraljava> asdjaputra: Sorry, no idea, never felt the need to.
[10:27] <luc3ntx> irc?
[10:27] <asdjaputra> astraljava, so i guess i just need to get used to type them huh
[10:27] <asdjaputra> astraljava, does screen actually replace your GUI DE?
[10:27] <astraljava> asdjaputra: I never said it's not possible. :)
[10:28] <asdjaputra> astraljava, heh heh
[10:28] <jrib> asdjaputra: you can change the keyboard combination to whatever you want I believe...
[10:28] <astraljava> asdjaputra: No, I have several irssi (and other) sessions running on a remote server, so I can connect to them wherever, and they're always online.
[10:28] <DistroJockey> steview: Edit - Profile Preferences - Colours
[10:28] <just_> Hi all. Tell me who was trying to set up the printer zebra lp 2824 to ubuntu?
[10:29] <PainK> hi my update manger is not working, what should i do?
[10:29] <PainK> http://uploadpic.org/v.php?img=Knu1IACTiM
[10:29] <asdjaputra> wow cool astraljava
[10:29] <reachingperfecti> girl_:no me trying actually me helping my friend on a remote desktop
[10:29] <DistroJockey> reachingperfecti: the command  mount  will show what is currently mounted
[10:30] <reachingperfecti> DistroJockey : thanks
[10:30] <DistroJockey> reachingperfecti: no problem
[10:30] <Valentinex> there is one default installed screenshot application in ubuntu, what is the package name of that app? I want to install it in my Lubuntu
[10:30] <asdjaputra> PainK, as said, check your internet connection
[10:31] <asdjaputra> GNOME or KDE or Fluxbox or Openbox or just Screen?
[10:32] <PainK> asdjaputra: my connection is perfect, it's wireless, everything else works?
[10:32] <asdjaputra> could you print the whole details in a pastebin and post the link
[10:33] <PainK> ok
[10:33] <fmauro> Valentinex: it's in the gnome-utils package
[10:33] <ThinkT510> PainK: it looks like its a certain ppa archive that it can't connect to
[10:34] <fmauro> Valentinex: and it's called gnome-screenshot
[10:34] <PainK> asdjaputra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/654401/
[10:35] <asdjaputra> PainK, loell ppa haven't support maverick yet
[10:35] <asdjaputra> change it with lucid
[10:36] <asdjaputra> and it'll work fine
[10:36] <PainK> ThinkT510: i think so, how can i get rid of this message, and the program that causes it?
[10:37] <PainK> asdjaputra: how can i do that?
[10:37] <ThinkT510> PainK: uninstall the ppa, i guess
[10:37] <asdjaputra> change the software sources in software center
[10:37] <asdjaputra> or just sudoedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:39] <PainK> ThinkT510: ppa?
[10:39] <ThinkT510> !ppa | Paink
[10:40] <dumbchick> I installed Ubuntu 11.04. I have replaced by windows software all but this http://bit.ly/p590ma anyone knows an equivalent to Ubuntu]
[10:41] <PainK> http://uploadpic.org/v.php?img=80aJzY436d
[10:41] <cornelinux> Where can I download the GPG keys of a distribution?
[10:41] <ThinkT510> dumbchick: you could try installing it in wine, or use a windows vm
[10:41] <nit-wit> dumbchick, is this spam?
[10:42] <dumbchick> nit-wit: no why?
[10:42] <asdjaputra> dumbchick, gimp
[10:43] <nit-wit> dumbchick, I couldn't understand that software was what your looking for, my mistake.
[10:43] <dumbchick> asdjaputra: Gimp is a photeditor not the same
[10:43] <asdjaputra> dumbchick, add makeups using gimp
[10:43] <ferni> well gimp can do the same for sure, might be just too complicated..
[10:44] <asdjaputra> apply soft brush
[10:44] <ferni> try to run that software with wine?
[10:44] <asdjaputra> 29.95 is for applying soft brush and eyeliners
[10:44] <dumbchick> ferni: does not work
[10:44] <asdjaputra> for eyeliners*
[10:45] <dumbchick> ThinkT510: vm does not run on my pc too slow
[10:45] <girl_> anyone?
[10:46] <dumbchick> No ideas?
[10:46] <asdjaputra> girl_, anyone what?
[10:46] <ThinkT510> dumbchick: try running it in wine
[10:47] <girl_> asdjaputra: Sorry typed in irc instead of pidgin
[10:47] <asdjaputra> ThinkT510, won't work she said
[10:47] <PainK> !loell
[10:48] <dumbchick> ThinkT510: Doesn't work, anyway I think I will just forget it it isn't essential software and I hardly used it in windows except for fun
[10:49] <nit-wit> girl_, dumbchick you are one and the same
[10:49] <PainK> !maverick
 er no I think girl_ is my sister we share the same lan
[10:50] <in0cula> please help me, i reinstalled ubuntu 11.04, then installed driver ati and seems ok, but i can'o play video, neither with vlc, i installed the codec restricted extra but no luck
[10:50] <nit-wit> dumbchick, you think
[10:50] <nit-wit> lol
[10:50] <nit-wit> ;)
[10:51] <PainK> asdjaputra: do you know what loell is?
[10:51] <dumbchick> nit-wit: it is true, I am new to ubuntu just installed last week
[10:52] <nit-wit> I just had to laugh the IP's are one and the same?
[10:52] <dumbchick> when you use a router, ip's  of internet (not lan ) are same
[10:53] <r000t> I'm having a huge problem with ecryptfs. I just mounted an old hard drive with an ecryptfs protected home folder. I know the passphrase, and I have the output of 'ecrypt-unwrap-passphrase', but I cannot for the life of me figure out how to mount this. It might be important to note that my current home directory is also ecryptfs protected.
[10:54] <shockrates> hey my bluetooth doesnt work says no adaptors found. should i install some package?
[10:55] <r000t> nit-wit: All went well. Until I started. It didn't like my vidya driver so I had to boot into failsafe recovery and install nvidia driver
[10:55] <ThinkT510> shockrates: you may need to restart bluetooth
[10:55] <dumbchick> asdjaputra: ThinkT510, Thanks a lot I found this jkiwi app suites me
[10:55] <shockrates> ThinkT510: how?
[10:55] <r000t> Now I can't mount my old hard drive's ecryptfs
[10:55] <ionite> can anyone hel pme with my GeForce 5500X ?
[10:55] <PainK> is there a way to use windows drivers on Ubuntu?
[10:55] <ThinkT510> shockrates: sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart
[10:56] <girl_> ionite: go and download the driver from nvidi'a web site
[10:56] <ionite> i cannot change my resolution on my GeForce 5500 monitor
[10:56] <nit-wit> r000t, cool .;)
[10:56] <ThinkT510> !ndiswrapper | PainK
[10:56] <ionite> girl_: i did but i can't run the .RUN file
[10:56] <girl_> ionite: boot ubuntu in recovery mode
[10:56] <girl_> ionite: then select drop to root prompt
[10:57] <girl_> ionite: type sudo sh /path/to/.runfile
[10:57] <girl_> ionite: it should then install
[10:58] <stephan> hey guys. i am about to install miktex-tools. i tried the debian version over software-center, but the installation aborted,.... well i tried the tar.gz file now. i unzipped it and have now 2 folders in it. but no readme how to install. on the internet they said, switch in the folder and make ./configure   make    make install. but when i type ./configure my terminal says data or folder not found.
[10:58] <PainK> Thank you so much you two, asdjaputra, ThinkT510.
[10:58] <ionite> girl_: are u certain? i got 2 .RUN files in the same folder
[10:58] <girl_> ionite yes
[10:58] <girl_> ionite: run whichever file you downloaded
[10:59] <fmauro> stephan: are you merely looking to create regular latex documents?
[10:59] <asdjaputra> PainK, loell is PPA
[10:59] <asdjaputra> !PPA
[10:59] <ThinkT510> PainK: no worries :)
[10:59] <girl_> ionite: working?
[10:59] <ionite> girl_: i'm using the exact words u gave me. ok?
[10:59] <csarven> Is there an audio player that can (book)mark certain frames in a song?
[10:59] <girl_> ionite: wait
[11:00] <girl_> replace /path with the real path
[11:00] <fmauro> stephan: I like working with gedit. so I use the gedit-latex-package. it sets everything up accordingly
[11:00] <asdjaputra> PainK, just change the maverick to lucid, loell doesn't have PPA on maverick
[11:00] <csarven> Sort of like soundcloud.com
[11:00] <stephan> yeah i have texmaker and texlive without miktex and it worked for my texfiles. but i need now moderncv package, and i dont know how to install without the miktex packagemanager
[11:00] <girl_> ionite: example it you saved it in /home/ionite/download/nv.run
[11:01] <girl_> ionite: the command is sh /home/ionite/download.nv.run
[11:01] <girl_> ionite: understood
[11:01] <PainK> ThinkT510: friend my problem is my camera doesn't work, and it's a built-in cam, no problem with the modems.
[11:01] <girl_> Ionite: it will prompt you to auto configure X say yes
[11:01] <DistroJockey> girl_: not quite right there
[11:01] <girl_> DistroJockey: ??
[11:01] <ThinkT510> PainK: installed cheese?
[11:02] <PainK> ThinkT510: I have a Sony VGN-UX.
[11:02] <ionite> DistroJockey: pls elaborate
[11:02] <DistroJockey> girl_: your example doesn't match the command :)
[11:02] <ionite> girl_: ure sure it'll work yeah? cuz i'm gonna tyr it now.
[11:02] <girl_> ionite: yes
[11:02] <PainK> !lucid
[11:02] <girl_> DistroJockey: Got it typo
[11:03] <PainK> o.O
[11:03] <DistroJockey> girl_: nods
[11:04] <ionite> girl_: so no changes yeah?
[11:04] <girl_> ionite: Remember the filename rename it if you like the default filename can be long the filename "nv***.run)
[11:04] <girl_> ionite: no changes
[11:04] <ionite> girl_: gd point
[11:04] <r000t> How do I mount multiple ecryptfs protected folders?
[11:05] <ionite> here goes nothing!
[11:05] <ionite> girhere goes nothing!
[11:05] <reachingperfecti> girl_:result on mount command http://pastie.org/2289242
[11:06] <PainK> ThinkT510: Alright, I'm installing it right now.
[11:06] <girl_> reachingperfecti: did you mount the drive?
[11:07] <PainK> asdjaputra: so is 10.04 better than 10.10 in a way?
[11:07] <DistroJockey> ionite, girl_: The page where you download the driver has an "Additional Information" section that has installation instructions. (Though they could be elaborated on)
[11:07] <asdjaputra> PainK, no, leoll doesn't have maverick packages yet, as far as it can go is lucid packages
[11:07] <asdjaputra> but basically, PainK, you can use lucid packages of leoll PPA in your maverick
[11:07] <girl_> DistroJockey: Inonite's gone guess he rebooted to install driver
[11:07] <dusty29> wow this is awesome
[11:08] <DistroJockey> girl_: yeah, just saw that :)
[11:08] <asdjaputra> cus lucid and maverick have no difference that's significance that maybe affect the package
[11:08] <ThinkT510> PainK: 10.04 is an lts release so it will be supported longer than 10.10
[11:08] <PainK> asdjaputra: I see.
[11:09] <PainK> ThinkT510: You're kidding me!
[11:09] <ThinkT510> !lts | PainK
[11:09] <PainK> !lts
[11:10] <PainK> o.O
[11:10] <asdjaputra> PainK, /msg ubottu for experiments
[11:10] <reachingperfecti> girl_: it is already mounted but not visible in places
 Sorry I can't help you then I use KDE and have no idea how places works
[11:11] <ale-cri> ciao
[11:11] <ale-cri> !list
[11:12] <reachingperfecti> girl _ : command was mount dev/sd3 for mounting sda3 right
[11:12] <ThinkT510> reachingperfecti: sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mountpoint
[11:13] <reachingperfecti> a partition already mounted on ubuntu 11.04 but not visible in places
[11:13] <Druif> Is there a way to find out which process is consuming my bandwidth?
[11:13] <asdjaputra> Places just replace mount /dev/sda3 /mountpoint
[11:14] <reachingperfecti> ThinkT510: Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened.
[11:14] <reachingperfecti> The volume may be already mounted, or another software may use it which
[11:14] <reachingperfecti> could be identified for example by the help of the 'fuser' command.
[11:14] <asdjaputra> easy on !enter
[11:14] <asdjaputra> !enter
[11:14] <dusty> ok guys I have a question here...
[11:14] <fmauro> Druif: netstat
[11:14] <ThinkT510> reachingperfecti: then find out where it is mounted
[11:14] <drake01> Druif, Install nethogs
[11:14] <Druif> fmauro, ok thankx I will try that one!
[11:14] <girl_> dusty: ...
[11:14] <asdjaputra> dusty, yes?
[11:14] <ThinkT510> reachingperfecti: are you sure it isn't under places?
[11:15] <PainK> asdjaputra: Alright.
[11:15] <dusty> ok well i'm using ubuntu 11.04 and everytime I download a file it asks me what program i'd like to open it with, obviously i'm new to linux and not used to the "next next next next that you get with windows when you download a file ?
[11:15] <fmauro> Druif: try drake01 answer. much better
[11:16] <reachingperfecti> Think510: realy strange i have only 2 partions : 1 c 2 recovery  ,
[11:16] <fmauro> drake01: nice, didn't know about that one. thx
[11:16] <dusty> For example I tried to run the jdk java development pack and it wont let me install it, i dont know what program to use to open it with to execute the install ?
[11:16] <girl_> disty: give an expample of the file extension e.g .exe .zip .doc
[11:16] <ThinkT510> dusty: why don't you install java from the repos?
[11:16] <reachingperfecti> ThinkT510: INSTALLED USING WUBI ON THE SAME PARTITION AS OF WINDOWS
[11:16] <r000t> How do I mount multiple ecryptfs protected folders?
[11:16] <r000t> How do I mount multiple ecryptfs protected folders?
[11:16] <asdjaputra> dusty, sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk
[11:16] <r000t> How do I mount multiple ecryptfs protected folders?
[11:16] <r000t> How do I mount multiple ecryptfs protected folders?
[11:16] <r000t> How do I mount multiple ecryptfs protected folders?
[11:16] <FloodBot1> r000t: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:16] <asdjaputra> r000t, flood
[11:17] <ThinkT510> reachingperfecti: ahh, i don't use wubi
[11:17] <girl_> dusty: Ubuntu has different installer files than windows, .exe .msi will not work
[11:17] <LjL> r000t: don't do that, thank you
[11:17] <drake01> fmauro, happy to be helpful.
[11:17] <reachingperfecti>  ThinkT510: INSTALLED USING WUBI ON THE SAME PARTITION AS OF WINDOWS , IS THAT GIVING AN ISSUE
[11:17] <ThinkT510> !caps | reachingperfecti
[11:17] <asdjaputra> !caps | reachingperfecti
[11:17] <asdjaputra> doesn't work
[11:17] <asdjaputra> heh
[11:17] <asdjaputra> !caps
[11:17] <FloodBot1> asdjaputra: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:17] <girl_> dusty: We have a represitory system for easy software installation
[11:17] <reachingperfecti> ubottu: sorry did not see caps was on
[11:17] <girl_> dusty: open Ubuntu Software Center
[11:18] <dusty> girl ... ok ?
[11:18] <asdjaputra> quiet ed?
[11:18] <girl_> ionite: worked?
[11:18] <ionite> girl_: I tried it. it says can't open file.
[11:19] <girl_> ionite: sure you did not miss the file
[11:19] <ionite> girl_: 100% sure because i renamed it to FX5500.RUN for easier typing.
[11:20] <r000t> Anyway, I'm having a major issue with ecryptfs. All I'm trying to do is mount /media/<whatever>/home/r000t/
[11:20] <r000t> That's all I want to do
[11:20] <r000t> And it looks like that's damned near impossible
[11:20] <raluxgaza> anyone using minimal ubuntu? Is is good for development?
[11:20] <girl_> ionite: Try like this when you get the prompt type "cd /" then press h and press the TAB key it will auto complete to home then when you reach the directory with the file type "ls"
[11:20] <r000t> ecryptfs: So secure, even you won't ever see your data
[11:21] <ionite> girl_: sounds complicated.
[11:21] <ikonia> r000t: you have to unencypt it
[11:21] <ikonia> that's the point, what else do you expect
[11:21] <r000t> Well
[11:21] <ikonia> raluxgaza: minimal ubuntu ?
[11:21] <r000t> I cannot
[11:21] <r000t> I tried ecryptfs-recover-private
[11:21] <MrPopinjay> Yo. Anyone know why the audio in wine seems to stop working when I load diablo 2?
[11:21] <raluxgaza> ikonia: yes
[11:21] <r000t> but because that folder and my home folder have the same name
[11:21] <ThinkT510> !mini | ikonia
[11:21] <ikonia> raluxgaza: what do you mean
[11:21] <ionite> girl_: try in terminal or in recovery root prompt?
[11:21] <r000t> the folder in /tmp is just a mimic of my curent home folder
[11:21] <girl_> ionite: will get back to you one moment
[11:22] <raluxgaza> ikonia: is it good for software development like python/ruby?
[11:22] <girl_> ionite first try in terminal and practise then recovery prompt
[11:22] <girl_> inonite open a terminal I will explain
[11:22] <ikonia> raluxgaza: it's the same as the standard ubuntu install, as you'll need to install the tools, so that makes it not minimal
[11:22] <ionite> girl_: give me the exact commands please?
[11:22] <girl_> ionite have you opened terminal
[11:22] <ionite> girl_: terminal opened
[11:23] <girl_> type cd /
[11:23] <r000t> ikonia, Do you know how to mount two ecryptfs folders with the same name?
[11:23] <girl_> ionite: done?
[11:23] <ikonia> r000t: I don't see how they can have the same name
[11:23] <raluxgaza> ikonia: aright, it should work out minimal for me because I use like 2% of all standard ubuntu installed packages
[11:23] <raluxgaza> ikonia: all i use is browser and terminal
[11:23] <girl_> ionite: "cd /" enter key
[11:23] <r000t> ikonia, Simple, one is /home/r000t, the other is /media/150/home/r000t
[11:24] <girl_> ionite: ...
[11:24] <ionite> girl_: ok. next?
[11:24] <Kingsy> is komodo edit in the ubuntu repos anywhere?
[11:24] <Kingsy> apt-cache search komodo returns nothing
[11:24] <girl_> ionite: type "h" do not press enter
[11:24] <ionite> girl_: ?
[11:24] <girl_> ionite: then press tab
[11:24] <ThinkT510> !find komodo
[11:24] <ionite> girl_: ok.
[11:25] <girl_> ionite: see what happens?
[11:25] <ikonia> r000t: are they on two seperate devices ?
[11:25] <ionite> girl_: many H came out
[11:25] <r000t> ikonia, yes
[11:25] <Kingsy> ThinkT510: so does that mean no?
[11:25] <girl_> ionite: now cd /home
[11:25] <ThinkT510> Kingsy: i assume so
[11:25] <Kingsy> kk
[11:25] <ThinkT510> Kingsy: maybe there is a ppa
[11:25] <ionite> ok
[11:26] <ionite> girl_: ok
[11:26] <girl_> ionite: now cd "your username folder"
[11:26] <girl_> ionite: cd to the folder where you save the .run file in this way
[11:27] <girl_> ionite: you understood about cd
[11:27] <stephan> can somebody tell me where texlive folder is? i need to adjust the moderncv.sly
[11:27] <ikonia> r000t: how are you trying to unencypt them
[11:27] <ionite> girl_: my file is in download folder
[11:27] <DistroJockey> ionite, girl_ : Or you can open a terminal window and type:  sudo sh ~/Downloads/FX5500.RUN
[11:27] <ionite> girl_: so its basically /home/downloads/FX5500.RUN
[11:27] <ionite> girl_: so what do i type?
[11:28] <drake01> stephan, try whereis command to check the file locations.
[11:28] <girl_> ionite: what DistroJockey said
[11:28] <girl_> ionite: does the installer show up and give an error about runlevel?
[11:28] <ionite> so i'll type exactly 'sudo sh ~/Downloads/FX5500.RUN
[11:29] <girl_> yes
[11:29] <ionite> girl_: i was prompt for password and then it says can't open file
[11:29] <ionite> girl_: sh can't open: FX5500.RUN
[11:29] <girl_> paste the out put here
[11:30] <girl_> ionite: type cd ~Downloads
[11:30] <ionite> girl_: sh: Can't open /home/ionite/Downloads/FX5500.RUN
[11:30] <DistroJockey> ionite: Remember filenames are CaSe sensitive
[11:30] <r000t> ikonia, the only thing that will work is going to the .Private directory in the slave drive and running ecryptfs-recvoer-private... My current folder mounts when I log in
[11:30] <girl_> ionite: lets do this one by one
[11:30] <girl_> ionite: cd ~
[11:30] <Druif> Hi guys, what is the best Terminal IRC client?
[11:31] <girl_> ionite: ls
[11:31] <r000t> Druif, irssi
[11:31] <llutz> !best | Druif
[11:31] <girl_> ionite: paste output
[11:31] <Druif> r000t, ok
[11:31] <herkupus> +1
[11:31] <ionite> girl_: when i type 'cd ~' there is no output
[11:32] <stephan> drake01:  thx
[11:32] <girl_> ionite: now type "ls"
[11:32] <raluxgaza> anyone using Irrsi
[11:32] <girl_> ionite; and paste output
[11:32] <raluxgaza> **Irssi
[11:33] <ionite> girl_: Is: command not found
[11:33] <girl_> LS
[11:33] <drake01> stephan, happy to help!!!
[11:33] <girl_> not iii sss
[11:33] <ThinkT510> ionite: ls inot is
[11:33] <DistroJockey> LS is not ls also :)
[11:33] <girl_> ionite: ls l as in lamb not i as in igloo
[11:33] <ionite> ThinkT510: bash: cd: ls: No such file or directory
[11:34] <girl_> ionite: just type "ls" and press enter
[11:35] <r000t> UGH! All I want is my files and it looks like that's not going to happen
[11:36] <ThinkT510> r000t: you can't use a livecd and mount the partitions from there?
[11:37] <WaltherFI> r000t: have you tried sudo mountall
[11:37] <r000t> ThinkT510, Won't work that way. The two things I have to mount share a name. Also, Encrypted LVM
[11:37] <r000t> So I'm bound to this session if I want to get anywhere
[11:37] <r000t> I just need ecryptfs to mount a god damned folder like it was meant to
[11:37] <rileyp> does irsend work in natty with a mceusb
[11:37] <dr_willis> raluxgaza:  lots of people use irssi. its a well documented irc client
[11:38] <ThinkT510> r000t: can't you give them seperate mountpoints?
[11:38] <r000t> ThinkT510, it gives each attempt a mount oint. The issue is, now there are 8 mountpoints that lead to /home/r000t
[11:38] <r000t> and zero that lead to /media/150/home/r000t
[11:39] <r000t> ecryptfs is very poorly written
[11:40] <r000t> WaltherFI, it just gives me some crap about swap
[11:40] <ThinkT510> r000t: i've never used encryption for harddrives, never really seen the point since i have nothing very important to keep absolutely private
[11:40] <r000t> what I could do it
[11:40] <WaltherFI> r000t: or... sudo mount -a
[11:41] <r000t> No matter how many time sI mount it
[11:41] <r000t> every mount
[11:41] <WaltherFI> strange
[11:41] <WaltherFI> well, encryption is
[11:41] <r000t> even if I did this
[11:41] <r000t> 900941449095 times
[11:41] <r000t> it will ALWAYS
[11:41] <r000t> 100% of the time
[11:41] <r000t> lead to my current home folder
[11:41] <r000t> on the master drive
[11:41] <FloodBot1> r000t: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:41] <r000t> The browns will win the super bowl before it mounts the correct folder
[11:41] <bteres> Hi all. I have a FAT32 hardrive and all my data appears to be missing. I can't view it but the drive is not empty. Is there any way for me to repair this?
[11:41] <r000t> All becaues they share a name, and renaming does not help
[11:42] <r000t> bteres, testdisk
[11:43] <bteres> r00t: in terminal?
[11:43] <bteres> *r000t
[11:43] <r000t> All I know is that testdisk does recovery
[11:43] <r000t> I know nothing else about it
[11:44] <dr_willis> bteres:  what happened to the disk?  Can you mount it by hand?
[11:44] <Druif> Q: What is the best video editor for hdslr video's?
[11:45] <WaltherFI> Druif: Novacut when it's ready, until that i suggest UbuntuStudio fork of Ubuntu
[11:45] <WaltherFI> Druif: PiTiVi and such
[11:45] <dr_willis> Druif:  you may want to just see what video editors are out there for linux. :) its sort of a slim field.
[11:45] <bteres> Thanks r000t. dr_willis: It mounts and I can see all the folders but they are empty.
[11:45] <ThinkT510> Druif: you could try openshot
[11:45] <dr_willis> bteres:  so df -h   shows it being full? empty? or what?
[11:46] <Druif> I know there are al lot of them (kdenlive, pitivi, shotwell, cinelerra), but I just want to know which one is the best for hdslr?
[11:46] <WaltherFI> Druif: but seriously, check out the Novacut project, they just got 25kUSD funding
[11:46]  * dr_willis wonders what HDSLR means
[11:46] <WaltherFI> Druif: if you have time to wait, around half a year or so
[11:46] <rigved> Druif: yes, check out Novacut.
[11:46] <CatFish> curry hates me
[11:47] <bteres> dr_willis: how do I do that?
[11:47] <Druif> Why will Novacut be better?
[11:48] <bteres> dr_willis: Excuse that ignorant question.
[11:48] <dr_willis> bteres:  do what? 'df -h'  ? open a terminal.. type it in.. see what % used is..
[11:48] <bteres> dr_willis: It shows 96% usage which is about right
[11:48] <bteres> dr_willis: The drive did have very little availabel space before I had an issue
[11:49] <xteejx> Hi all, I'm having problems getting lemonpos working. Has anyone used this before and know how to get it working?
[11:49] <dr_willis> bteres:  so if you cd to the mountmoint and do a 'ls -R' it may or may not show the files...
[11:49] <chrisg4u> can anyone help me please?
[11:49] <xteejx> chrisg4u: Just ask your question, don't ask to ask :)
[11:49] <dr_willis> bteres:  its possible they all got moved to some subdir
[11:50] <xteejx> ubotu: here?
[11:50] <DistroJockey> r000t: I can't help any further than the following link. I hope it help, good luck:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Recovering%20Your%20Data%20Manually
[11:50] <chrisg4u> Okay, well my thunderbird keeps crashing once I open it, I opened it in safe mode also and all it does is freeze and force close.
[11:50] <chrisg4u> Btw, I'm running 11.04
[11:50] <xteejx> chrisg4u: Have you reported a bug?
[11:50] <rigved> !brain | xteejx
[11:50] <chrisg4u> No, how do i do that?
[11:50] <bteres> dr_willis: What exactly should I be looking for in the 'ls -R'? Seems like a lot...
[11:51] <xteejx> chrisg4u: Just a sec...
[11:52] <xteejx> chrisg4u: Ok, if you run "sudo service apport start force_start=1" without quotes and then try to reproduce the crash, apport will kick in and send debugging information to us.
[11:52] <xteejx> Do you have a Launchpad account?
[11:52] <chrisg4u> Alright will do that now
[11:53] <xteejx> Is Oneiric in alpha 3 yet?
[11:53] <WaltherFI> !ubuntu+1
[11:54] <bteres> dr_willis: How can I use 'ls-R' but only print one page at a time? It is removing all the important stuff from the terminal window
[11:54] <xteejx> I didn't ask for an autorepsonse :/
[11:54] <chrisg4u> Okay, reproduced the crash and it should have sent
[11:55] <th0r> bteres: ls -R | less
[11:55] <xteejx> chrisg4u: If apport was triggered, you'd know...a dialog would come up
[11:55] <ionite> girl_ : gone?
[11:55] <ionite> can anyone help me with my video resolution?
[11:56] <bteres> thanks th0r
[11:56] <WaltherFI> ionite: how can we help?
[11:56] <dr_willis> bteres:  so it is showing files then? and not just the directorie names?
[11:56] <dr_willis> bteres:  'ls -R | less'
[11:57] <ionite> WaltherFI: how can i've sucessfullly installed my Geforce FX 5500.RUN
[11:57] <dr_willis> bteres:  you said the disk looked empty.. so ls showing a lot is a good sign i guess. :)
[11:57] <ionite> WaltherFI: but i still can't change the resolution @ system/preferences/monitor
[11:57] <WaltherFI> ionite: have you installed the drivers?
[11:57] <ionite> WaltherFI: just did it.
[11:58] <WaltherFI> ionite: from install file downloaded from internet or the jockey-gtk?
[11:58] <bteres> dr_willis: It only shows the _restore data. I'm sure there is a sector issue or something.
[11:58] <ionite> WaltherFI: got it from Nvidia drivers for linux
[11:58] <bteres> dr_willis: All the expected data folders are empty.
[11:59] <Austray> cum in @rsehole
[11:59] <WaltherFI> ionite: ah. uninstall that one, install nvidia-current
[11:59] <ionite> WaltherFI: why?
[11:59] <Austray> mix gay cum & brown hole together
[11:59] <WaltherFI> ionite: the packages which have been tested (and modified?) are a bit older but they work
[11:59] <WaltherFI> there are usually some issues with the 'newest' ones
[11:59] <slinzex> Hi, got a question > why cannot download wget -emr http://photoshop.demiart.ru/
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[12:00] <Druif> hi
[12:00] <daan> hi Druif
[12:00] <llutz> !ops | Austray
[12:00] <Spacewalker> Austray: Please stop. :/
[12:01] <ionite> WaltherFI: So i should uninstall the driver d/l from nvidia?
[12:01] <dr_willis> bteres:  so where did _restore come from?
[12:02] <WaltherFI> ionite: yes, if you have problems with it
[12:02] <DistroJockey> ionite, WaltherFI: Does the Nvidia installer add an option to the System - Preferences menu?
[12:02] <dr_willis> bteres:  you may want to ask in #windows for advice on scan/repairing a fat filesystem.  theres numerous live cd's that can help fix/recover things. but i tend to just dd the whole drive  a image file and fsck it.. that may not be the 'best' way.
[12:02] <zakzakzak> Can i ask a question?
[12:03] <dr_willis> zakzakzak:  you just did.. have a nice day.. :)
[12:03] <WaltherFI> DistroJockey: not sure about that. Anyway, the driver install should add automatically the Nvidia Control panel or whatever, and the Monitors -applet should link to it
[12:03] <HotHat> windows title was undisplay in my linux mint box
[12:03] <HotHat> ?
[12:03] <dr_willis> zakzakzak:  just ask your ubuntu support question and see.
[12:03] <HotHat> who can help me?
[12:03] <WaltherFI> !ask | zakzakzak
[12:03] <dr_willis> HotHat:  that made no sence.. and Mint Has their own support channels.
[12:03] <HotHat> which channels?
[12:03] <wols> !mint
[12:04] <HotHat> is it #mint?
[12:04] <HotHat> thanks
[12:04] <ionite> DistroJockey: it doesn't add anything to my preferences. and i can't change resolution. what should i do?
[12:04] <sysdoc> In Appearance Preferences, what happened to effects settings??
[12:04] <DistroJockey> WaltherFI, ionite: the Monitors applet has never linked properly for me in the past. I know ATI drivers have a control section separate
[12:05] <zakzakzak> My wireless isn't working, i have a broadcom BCM4313, i spent a week now trying every solution i can find with google, does anyone have a trick up their sleeve? i'm on a lenovo b560
[12:05] <ionite> DistroJockey: Any advise? because the visual i have on my screen is quite laggy and my sound card, banshee is making weird noises whenever my screen goes laggy
[12:05] <rileyp> ls irsend working in natty with the mceusd
[12:05] <sysdoc> zakzakzak, you have to install the firmware for that WIFI card... See the wiki
[12:05] <rileyp> mceusb
[12:06] <ionite> WaltherFI: so what should i do now?
[12:06] <WaltherFI> ionite: uninstall the dl drivers, install from jockey-gtk
[12:06] <DistroJockey> ionite: is the resolution right though?
[12:06] <zakzakzak> i think i might have already, i'll try, ty:)
[12:06] <slinzex> Hi, got a question > why cannot download wget -emr http://photoshop.demiart.ru/
[12:07] <ionite> DistroJockey: no! my original was at 1300X somehting something.
[12:07] <WaltherFI> DistroJockey: when opening Monitors, it suggests 'you have nvidia installed, want to chech there' and ok links to there
[12:07] <ionite> WaltherFI: how do i uninstall?
[12:07] <WaltherFI> ionite: can't remember, been a while since my last manual driver install
[12:07] <DistroJockey> WaltherFI: sorry, I am not running an Nvidia card atm. Wish I was.
[12:08] <ubuntu__1> Hai everyone
[12:08] <WaltherFI> ionite: you could try installing the current from jockey-gtk and see if it uninstalls the previous one
[12:08] <ionite> btw why is natty so laggy? is it because of my vieideo card?
[12:08] <sysdoc> zakzakzak, >>>https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[12:08] <ubuntu__1> I m curently encountering a prob. with my hard disk
[12:08] <bteres> dr_willis: Sorry, my connection dropped. The _restore stuff is in System Volume Information. I think its Windows stuff. Not too sure
[12:09] <ionite> WaltherFI: how do i go about to use jockey-gtk? does it install the right driver if i use jockey-gtk?
[12:09] <ubuntu__1> Whaenever i turn on the sys with the hd p[lugged in, it does not boot up
[12:09] <th0r> slinzex: -e expects a command to execute, not a url
[12:09] <WaltherFI> ionite: jockey-gtk is the Additional drivers or Propietary drivers or what is it called, ready in your menu
[12:10] <aetas> ubuntu__1, can you be a little more specific with your descriptions
[12:10] <slinzex> th0r but it now works even with simple -r
[12:10] <DistroJockey> ionite: Did you reboot after you successfully installed the drivers manually earlier?
[12:10] <ubuntu__1> But when i unplug it and boot from the usb it starts normally
[12:10] <aetas> ionite, omg you're back...whats wrong now? ;)
[12:10] <chrisg4u> Sorry had to go but I'm back now
[12:11] <ubuntu__1> I m currently booting from the usb with live ubuntu 9.10 old version
[12:11] <ubuntu__1> Any solutions?
[12:12] <ionite_> WaltherFI: so what do i do now?
[12:12] <ubuntu__1> Plz help me out
[12:12] <ubuntu__1> anybody help..
[12:13] <WaltherFI> !ask | ubuntu__1
[12:13] <Pici> !!doesntwork | ubottu
[12:13] <ionite_> WaltherFI: so what should i do now?
[12:13] <chrisg4u> ok apport is running but when thunderbird crashes I  only get the force close dialogue nothing else
[12:14] <WaltherFI> ionite_: try typing jockey-gtk on the terminal or the unity shell if you're running 11.04
[12:14] <bteres> dr_willis: Sorry, my connection dropped. The _restore stuff is in System Volume Information. I think its Windows stuff. Not too sure
[12:14] <ubuntu__1> Plz help me out
[12:14] <Pici> ubuntu__1: This sounds like a hardware issue to me, why do you think this is Ubuntu related?
[12:14] <ionite_> WaltherFI: why i'm puzzled is that why does nvidia allow a driver that doesn't work on natty or is it natty cannot handle the old graphics card?
[12:15] <ionite_> and why is natty so laggy or is it really my video card that's giving all these visual lag?
[12:15] <daan> Hi, I've just installed irssi, but I don't know how to scroll up to see previous messages.
[12:15] <Pici> daan: page-up, also #irssi for more help.
[12:15] <llutz> daan: pgup
[12:15] <daan> Ok, thanx
[12:16] <llutz> daan: http://www.irssi.org/documentation
[12:16] <chrisg4u> can anyone help me?
[12:16] <ionite_> why can't i change my monitor resolution on natty?
[12:17] <WaltherFI> ionite_: well, nvidia does allow you to install thw drivers, but ubuntu can't support every driver version of every gpu so i'd go with the recommended drivers from jockey-gtk
[12:17] <ionite_> so what do i type at the terminal to use jockey-gtk?
[12:17] <WaltherFI> ionite_: and i'm sure that when you'll have the correct, functioning drivers on, you can change your resolution
[12:17] <Pici> ionite_: just that
[12:18] <ionite_> WaltherFI: i'm totally noob to terminal and just came out from the cluthes of Windows XP pro. please advise me.
[12:19] <WaltherFI> ionite_: you can find the jockey app from the menu also. It is called 'Additional drivers' or something similar
[12:19] <WaltherFI> ionite_: or, just type jockey-gtk to the terminal and press enter
[12:19] <aetas> ionite_, Im gonna show you this wonderful command "dpkg -L jockey-gtk" will list all files owned by that package
[12:20] <aetas> can use that to find where it puts things
[12:20] <ebanias>  Hi. Can I pull files off a windows hdd, put them on a ubuntu hdd, and then transfer them to another windows hdd.. or are the file systems not compatable enough to do this?
[12:20] <aetas> no, it'll work if you have NTFS support
[12:20] <WaltherFI> aetas: ionite_ won't need it
[12:20] <ionite_> all i wanna do is to just make sure i can change my monitor resolution to my monitor display capability and also solve the lag.
[12:20] <chrisg4u> can anyone help me figure out why thunderbird keeps crashing?
[12:21] <DiploCat> 11.04 is entirely disappointing
[12:21] <WaltherFI> ionite_: Yeah, so pop up a terminal and type jockey-gtk and press enter
[12:21] <ionite_> alright my terminal is opened now.
[12:21] <WaltherFI> ionite_: and then, doubleclick the 'current' driver, let it install it
[12:21] <ebanias>  thanks aetas
[12:21] <aetas> WaltherFI, he needs to know how to use his OS or do you disagree
[12:21] <WaltherFI> aetas: sure, but for a person who just wants to set a correct resolution it is unnecessary to know 'what's under the hood'
[12:22] <WaltherFI> ionite_: Did the additional drivers thing pop up?
[12:22] <aetas> WaltherFI, that sounds more like laziness
[12:22] <ionite_> aetas: mesa-util is already the newest version
[12:23] <kamidi> aetas: give me a break. not everyone want to know whats under the hood. many people just want their system to be functional
[12:23] <ebanias>   just started using ubuntu, wow this built in chat client , empathy, leaves much to be desired lol
[12:23] <Tyrnis> plop all
[12:23] <WaltherFI> ionite_: did you open the jockey-gtk?
[12:23] <ionite_> WaltherFI: i already had my latest driver installed.
[12:23] <DistroJockey> WaltherFI: What I attempted to ask ionite_ before was if they reboot after successfully installing the correct driver. Got no answer though.
[12:23] <ionite_> WaltherFI: yes.
[12:24] <aetas> kamidi, then tell me, if he installs a package how is he going to know what it provides if he doesn't come in here and ask you guys?
[12:24] <ionite_> DistroJockey: it rebooted fine?
[12:24] <WaltherFI> ionite_: did you install the 'nvidia-current' from there
[12:24] <ionite_> WaltherFI: how do i install current from additional drivers?
[12:24] <DistroJockey> ionite_: I am asking the question.
[12:24] <rigved> chrisg4u: you can try on #thunderbird on irc.mozilla.org
[12:24] <kamidi> aetas: true, but after he has installed propriatary display drivers, issue is solved, no need to ask questions about that anymore
[12:24] <WaltherFI> ionite_: doubleclick the driver on the list that is labeled current and recommended
[12:25] <aetas> kamidi, I didnt show him that command just so he can get this one thing running, I showed it so he could do this in the future
[12:25] <ionite_> DistroJockey: it rebooted but i still cant change my resolution even after a successful installation of linux nvidia driver.
[12:25] <DistroJockey> ionite_: Ok, ty for answering. Carry on :)
[12:25] <WaltherFI> DistroJockey: ionite installed newest drivers from nvidia website, probably the reason
[12:25] <kamidi> aetas: yes i know you've got point there but still, sometimes it's just easier and more productive to tell how to fix the problem
[12:25] <DistroJockey> WaltherFI: That they did
[12:25] <mang0> Catcha later guys, I'm off to play tennis :)
[12:26] <aetas> kamidi, he already got the resolution from another user, why would I reiterate
[12:26] <oCean> aetas: enough, let's move on
[12:26] <Mrokii> Hello. I am looking for an OCR-software that turns scans into searcheable PDF-documents.
[12:26] <Mrokii> Or images.
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Hey Folks
[12:26] <chrisg4u> can anyone help me figure out why thunderbird keeps crashing?
[12:27] <ionite_> WaltherFI: on my additional driver screen there's no current or recommended buttons
[12:27] <slinzex> Hi, got a question > why cannot download wget -r http://photoshop.demiart.ru/
[12:27] <WaltherFI> ionite_: there should be a list of drivers, one of which has 'current' in its name
[12:27] <ionite_> WaltherFI: i'll do a print screen for yer.
[12:27] <Incarus6> !ocr | Mrokii
[12:28] <WaltherFI> ionite_: great
[12:28] <sysdoc> !voice recognition
[12:29] <WaltherFI> DistroJockey: can you help them out, i should be going
[12:29] <slinzex> I can't install themes for pidgin . This command fail  cd ~/ && bzr branch lp:~spoidar/pidgin-webkit/karmic-fixes
[12:29] <slinzex> bzr: ERROR: Invalid url supplied to transport: "lp:~spoidar/pidgin-webkit/karmic-fixes": No such person or team: spoidar
[12:29] <chrisg4u> can anyone help me figure out why thunderbird keeps crashing?
[12:29] <ansumanb> What is the version of python in ubuntu 11.04
[12:29] <Pici> slinzex: Sounds like the branch no longer exists.
[12:30] <WaltherFI> ansumanb: pop up a terminal, write python -v
[12:30] <DistroJockey> WaltherFI: I'll, try. Not much left in me tonight either but I've been watching them for the last 2 hours with thiss. Be well :)
[12:30] <Pici> ansumanb: 2.7
[12:30] <luoshu> python 2.7
[12:30] <ansumanb> Ahaa thanks
[12:30] <ionite> WaltherFI: how do i send u my print screen?
[12:31] <WaltherFI> ionite: i'm sorry, i've got to go now, but i'm sure there are other people around here who can help you out too
[12:31] <Pici> ansumanb: python2.5 and 2.6 are also in the repos, as is 3.1 and 3.2
[12:31] <DistroJockey> ionite: upload it to something like tinypic.com
[12:31] <ionite> WaltherFI: Will any kind soul help me please?
[12:31] <WaltherFI> DistroJockey: thanks, and have a great night too
[12:31] <DistroJockey> WaltherFI: ty :)
[12:32] <ebanias>  Supposedly ubuntu usually comes with built in orca (text to speech program).  Also when i check the software section it shows orca as being installed, but i can't for the life of me figure out how to launch it.
[12:32] <Bomster> Anyone in the UK reccomend a good ISP?
[12:32] <WaltherFI> Someone help ionite: wrong resolution after nvidia driver install from nvidia website, can't fallback for recommended
[12:32] <oCean> Bomster: that has nothing to do wiht #ubuntu
[12:32] <oCean> *with
[12:32] <WaltherFI> and now, bye all
[12:32] <Pici> !ot | Bomster
[12:32] <ansumanb> so is there any way to switch between them?
[12:33] <ionite> WaltherFI: thanks
[12:33] <Bomster> I know, I just cant find an active channel to ask the question. Apologies.
[12:33] <DistroJockey> WaltherFI: Cheers, goodnight :)
[12:33] <ebanias>  can anyone tell me how to launch orca(text reader) in ubuntu?
[12:33] <ndxtg> I once run "export http_proxy=..." on command line at work, now at home my terminal cannot connect at all, does anyone know how to reverse?
[12:33] <ThinkT510> ebanias: tried typing it from the terminal?
[12:33] <donato> it
[12:33] <oCean> !it | donato
[12:33] <WaltherFI> ionite: try copypasting that line over here until someone helps, it contains some helpful information about your issue so it's easier for people to help you
[12:34] <donato> IT ?
[12:34] <Pici> ansumanb: I wouldn't do it globally, as many things in Ubuntu use python, and may require a specific version.  You can use #!/usr/bin/env python2.5   (or whatever) at the top of your scripts to force a particular version (assuming you have that installed of course)
[12:34] <donato> o.k.
[12:34] <ansumanb> OK
[12:34] <ansumanb> Thanks a lot.
[12:35] <Pici> Bomster: You could try #ubuntu-uk
[12:35] <Bomster> kk, cheers :)
[12:35] <ionite> wrong resolution after nvidia driver install from nvidia website, can't fallback for recommended
[12:35] <ionite> DistroJockey: inypic.com/r/aeb80h/7
[12:36] <donato> questa è la "Ubuntu" ?
[12:36] <ionite> DistroJockey: http://tinypic.com/r/aeb80h/7
[12:36] <jinjonBoo> hey guys sorry for posting here but, what's a good internet traffic analyzer for windows7 ?
[12:36] <jinjonBoo> my PC keeps slowing down internet connection and i don't know why;(
[12:36] <jinjonBoo> not virus or spyware
[12:36] <ebanias>  thanks ThinkT510 it seems to have launched an option dialog and says it will launch it next time i log in.  But it sounds like something that talks as you type, i was more looking for something that would read selected text.  :P
[12:36] <Incarus6> !ot | jinjonBoo
[12:37] <aetas> what are you guys generally using for DVD burning?
[12:37] <ionite> DistroJockey: u got the link?
[12:37] <jinjonBoo> ok Incarus6 sorry :)
[12:37] <aetas> images specifically
[12:37] <DistroJockey> ionite: Activated but not currently in use Nvidia driver is a little outside my area atm. Sorry
[12:37] <albech> what the IRC channel for OpenOffice?
[12:37] <albech> !openoffice
[12:38] <ThinkT510> ebanias: sorry, i've never needed that funcunality and haven't used orca myself so i wouldn't know what to recomend to you
[12:38] <Incarus6> ionite, have you tried to remove the driver in jockey and enable it again?
[12:38] <ionite> why does banshee plays weird noises? and why i smy comp so lag?
[12:38] <DistroJockey> ionite: The only thing I can suggest is to hit that Remove button and reboot and then go back there and try again. But there may be better ways.
[12:39] <chenthu> Try to install 64bit 11.04 (direct)-fail, 11.04(alternate)-fail, 10.04 LTS(Dierct)-Fail, 10.04 LTS (Alternate)-Fail....all these fails inspite of trying for almost 6 days following every bit of instructions from other users and volunteers from here and on forums and in help manuals....still fail....what to do?....I am fed up ..... :(...But thank you very much for all your support....many of...
[12:39] <chenthu> ...you here were really helpful...
[12:39] <ionite> Incarus6: i dun even know how to use a jockey and my whole comp is lag after installing natty. i dun know where went wrong.
[12:39] <Incarus6> ionite, sounds like your computer is using the nouveau driver, can you paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[12:39] <ebanias>  that's alright ThinkT510.. i just came over to ubuntu from windows.. i know a nice one  that i can use with wine
[12:40] <ionite> Incarus6: how do i paste? please help me as i'm a noob to natty here.
[12:40] <Incarus6> !paste | ionite
[12:41] <ionite> Incarus6: no i mean, how do i paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[12:41] <aetas> ionite, you're in X or terminal?
[12:41] <ionite> aetas: what's X?
[12:41] <oguncak> hi friends. i lost my "gnome settings" entry in ubuntu-tweak. how can i take that back?
[12:41] <aetas> ionite, the GUI
[12:41] <Incarus6> inoite, open the file in a editor like gedit and copy and paste the content to a site like paste.ubuntu.com and give the the link ;)
[12:42] <ebanias>  btw i can't believe how nice ubuntu is.. coming from vista .. it's such a pleasant surprise
[12:42] <ebanias>  and free .. :P
[12:42] <ionite> aetas: i'm on the mainframe of natty?
[12:42] <chrisg4u> can anyone help me figure out why thunderbird keeps crashing?
[12:42] <ionite> Incarus6: open what file in the editor?
[12:43] <aetas> ionite, X is the graphical system for linux.  It draws all the pretty windows and stuff on your screen.  Terminal conversely is the text-only screen
[12:43] <ionite> aetas: i'm on X
[12:43] <Incarus6> inoite, /var/log/Xorg.0.log (or type in the terminal "gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log")
[12:43] <Mrokii> Incarus6: Thanks, I'll look into that.
[12:43] <ionite> ionite: thanks! i really need this kinda specific instructions because i'm totally noob to natty
[12:44] <aetas> ionite, sometimes we have to know beforehand because things in X and terminal are done differently
[12:44] <Incarus6> ionite, Natty is just the developement name of version 11.04 ;) the general name is Ubuntu (11.04)
[12:44] <ionite> Incarus6: so how do i paste the whole chunk of text where?
[12:45] <ionite> aetas: so any idea how i can solve the lag problem and the banshee prob sound card prob?
[12:45] <ebanias>  if i'm in version 10.x of ubuntu, any importance to upgrade to 11?
[12:45] <aetas> ionite, you'll need to put it into the pastebin website and paste the link here
[12:45] <Incarus6> ionite, paste the content in the following textfield, press submit and give me the new link: http://pastebin.com/
[12:46] <ionite> aetas: ok. please take a look. http://paste.ubuntu.com/654470/
[12:46] <ionite> Incarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/654470/
[12:47] <Incarus6> ionite, the proprietary nvidia driver seems to be working properly (I suppose its the one from nvidia.com
[12:48] <aetas> ionite, Im running nvidia driver 275.19, you have 173.14.30
[12:48] <ionite> Incarus6: So whats should I do?
[12:48] <aetas> ionite, dpkg -l nvidia-current
[12:48] <aetas> ionite, run that in a terminal please
[12:48] <ionite> aetas: alright.. sounds alien to me. but anyway, so how do i go about to fix my resolution?
[12:49] <aetas> ionite, gonna grab a soda while you do that
[12:49] <VagaBand> #c++
[12:49] <ionite> aetas: No packages found matching nvidia-current.
[12:50] <ionite> Incarus6: No packages found matching nvidia-current.
[12:50] <renaldocreative> Hello everyone
[12:50] <DistroJockey> aetas: ionite is running a legacy card, hence the version number difference
[12:50] <oguncak> hi. i backed-up my files using deja-dup on an external hd. after i format my computer, can i restore those files using deja-dup again?
[12:50] <Incarus6> aetas, the proprietary driver from nvidia.com isn't called nvidia-current
[12:51] <aetas> Incarus6, I know.  I run the nvidia-current one and I wanted to see if it was installed
[12:51] <aetas> DistroJockey, you know which one he has?
[12:51] <chrisg4u> can anyone help me figure out why thunderbird keeps crashing?
[12:51] <Incarus6> ionite, have you tried to choose "Ubuntu Classic" during the login screen? Unity isn't supported on every card
[12:52] <zakzakzak> does anyone know how to install "brcm_bcm43xx-0.fw" +hdr of same. I put them in lib/firmware/brcm:)
[12:52] <Incarus6> chrisg4u, have you tried to run it from terminal to get an output?
[12:52] <ionite> Incarus6: yes i chose ubuntu classic. but now it's still so laggy visually.
[12:52] <chrisg4u> Yeah ran it from Terminal, same issue.
[12:52] <aetas> Incarus6, fair point...the 3d effects could be weighing him down if hes on a legacy card
[12:53] <DistroJockey> aetas: FX5500 I think it was
[12:53] <ionite> aetas: so i'm using classic now.
[12:53] <Incarus6> ionite, which nvidia card are you exactly using?
[12:53] <ionite> Incarus6: FX5500
[12:53] <aetas> ionite, still slow?
[12:54] <ionite> aetas: visually it's laggy.
[12:54] <chrisg4u> Incarus6, Still crashes even ran from terminal :\
[12:54] <syrinx_> Unity isn't gonna run very good on an FX5xxx
[12:54] <Incarus6> chrisg4u, what does the program return? output?
[12:54] <ionite> aetas: as compared to windows, it's more laggy.
[12:54] <ubuntu__1> But when i unplug it and boot from the usb it starts normally
[12:54] <chrisg4u> I get nothing on the terminal just killed
[12:54] <ubuntu__1> I m currently booting from the usb with live ubuntu 9.10 old version
[12:54] <renaldocreative> Do anybody use Phpmyadmin I cannot find my shortcut  in the menu bar. I tried localhost/phpmyadmin but it don't work. I Have Ubuntu 11.04 Desktop editon 32bit.
[12:54] <ubuntu__1> Plz help me out
[12:55] <chrisg4u> Incarus6, I get nothing on the terminal just killed
[12:55] <sushireclame> I remember seeing a blog post about the Gnome 2.30 development in the Natty cycle, but I can't find it now... does anyone have the link?
[12:55] <ubuntu__1> I m curently encountering a prob. with my hard disk
[12:55] <ionite> aetas: should i switch to 3d mode?
[12:55] <ubuntu__1> Whaenever i turn on the sys with the hd p[lugged in, it does not boot up
[12:55] <ionite> Incarus6: should i switch to 3d mode now?
[12:55] <Incarus6> chrisg4u, a good way to fix that is allways just using another email client ;)
[12:55] <Pici> ubuntu__1: This sounds like a hardware issue to me, why do you think this is Ubuntu related?
[12:56] <aetas> ionite, no, leave it there for now
[12:56] <DistroJockey> ionite, Incarus6, aetas: My suggestion would be to log out and then log in using Ubuntu Classic (No effects) and see what it is like.
[12:56] <chrisg4u> Incarus6, what is the next best thing as I don't like using evolution as I use 3 different mail accounts for different purposes and it merges them together
[12:56] <Incarus6> ionite, don't write the message two times, just write both names in the same message
[12:56] <aetas> ionite, do me a favor and run this in a terminal "lspci -v" and then look for your NVIDIA card and there will be a number next to it like 0b:00.0, tell me what it is please
[12:57] <aetas> ionite, actually don't even need the -v
[12:57] <stephenthemartyr> for under 300 bucks can anyone tell which audio interfaces work withy linux,specifically jack and ardour?
[12:57] <Pici> stephenthemartyr: The folks in #ubuntustudio probably have a better idea than us.  You'll need to be patient though.
[12:57] <Incarus6> chrisg4u, or you could try to install a newer version of thunderbird, latest in natty is 3.1.11
[12:58] <DistroJockey> I'm out. Good luck all and have fun :)
[12:58] <captainjackstraw> why doesn't oracle vbox doesn't sync calender. do I have to restart vbox everytime?
[12:59] <chrisg4u> Incarus6, That is the version I am currently using.
[12:59] <ionite> aetas: Incarus6 http://paste.ubuntu.com/654476/
[12:59] <Incarus6> chrisg4u, you can try the thunderbird stable channel "ppa:mozillateam/thunderbird-stable", their latest version is 5.0
[13:00] <jfrench> when
[13:00] <jfrench> How do I pull the number of security updates that need to be installed?
[13:00] <captainjackstraw> why doesn't oracle vbox doesn't sync calender. do I have to restart vbox everytime?
[13:01] <zlude> BUG!? http://pastebin.com/Z0MUcAu8
[13:01] <chrisg4u> Incarus6, Where would i type that, sorry, am new to all this :)
[13:01] <aetas> ionite, ok run: lspci -n | grep "00:06.0" and paste the line here
[13:02] <ionite> Incarus6: aetas can u guys see it? it's very laggy on my side. it's just so miserable to see my comp so lag.
[13:02] <aetas> ionite, yeah
[13:02] <captainjackstraw> why doesn't oracle vbox doesn't sync calender. do I have to restart vbox everytime?
[13:02] <ionite> aetas: 00:06.0 0300: 10de:0326 (rev a1)
[13:02] <Pici> zlude: No, 'locate' works off of a database which may not have been updated since the deletion of that file.  I prefer to use 'find' to find files, it's slower since it searches all the files in real-time, but it is always accurate.
[13:02] <oCean> zlude: you might have misplaced the iso in the meantime. First run  sudo updatedb  then try the locate command again
[13:02] <ThinkT510> zlude: try ls without the -la option
[13:03] <ubuntu__1> exit
[13:03] <syrinx_> zlude: oops
[13:03] <Incarus6> chrisg4u, add the line "ppa:mozillateam/thunderbird-stable" in the software-sources dialog, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20Ubuntu%20Software%20Repositories after that just update all packages
[13:03] <syrinx_> sorry, that wasn't for you
[13:04] <chrisg4u> Incarus6, Thanks.
[13:04] <aetas> ionite, yeah you're running the right version for your card....hrmm
[13:04] <zlude> oCean: thanks!  sudo updatedb works fine!
[13:04] <quiescens> zlude: 'locate' uses a pre-generated database of files which by default is updated once per day
[13:04] <aetas> ionite, lemme look at something real quick
[13:05] <Incarus6> ionite, I suppose another desktop environment could work fine for you since your graphic card isn't the newest. You could try XFCE for example
[13:05] <ionite> aetas: it's puzzling because if i were to revert back befor the update for the additional drivers i was able to select resolution but after i installed the latest driver i can't change my resolution.
[13:05] <sedavi> can someone tell me why the flash games do not work well in full screen?
[13:05] <ionite> Incarus6: so what shoul di do?
[13:05] <quiescens> oops
[13:05] <quiescens> oh well
[13:05] <aetas> ionite, is it running in a higher resolution that is normal?
[13:06] <ionite> aetas: right on the dot.
[13:06] <ionite> aetas: before the update of drivers.
[13:06] <Incarus6> ionite, first that resolution thing: start "nvidia-settings" and try to change the resolution there
[13:06] <captainjackstraw> why doesn't oracle vbox doesn't sync calender. do I have to restart vbox everytime?
[13:06] <aetas> ionite, lets work on that then
[13:06] <bazhang> captainjackstraw, try #vbox
[13:07] <saliak> I'm trying to setup a ssh tunnel to a remote system.  It's a reverse tunnel initiated by the remote system on startup, that forwards traffic from my local server, to the remote computers ssh port (note, i'm mixing "reverse" tunnel, and what i'm calling "remote and local").  right now, my remote system sets up the reverse tunnel, and forwards port 4000 on my local server, to it's local port 22.  to ssh into my remote system, i login to my local
[13:07] <saliak> server, and ssh to port 4000.  is there a way i can make any computer on my local network simply ssh into a port  on my local server, and have that forwarded to the remote system?
[13:07] <ionite> Incarus6: progress!!
[13:07] <ionite> Incarus6: but i can't save to my X config files
[13:08] <Incarus6> ionite, try running it as root, use "gksu nvidia-settings"
[13:08] <gorakhargosh> I have Ubuntu 10.04 installed on a MacBook Pro 17 along side Windows 7 and Mac OS X 10.6.8. I'm using reFit to triple-boot, however, when I try to boot Linux from it, the screen goes blank and nothing happens. How does one fix this?
[13:08] <aetas> ionite, actually if you're using the nvidia gui there should be a save button in there
[13:08] <gorakhargosh> I'm able to boot OS X properly.
[13:09] <aetas> ionite, goto the nvidia-settings Configuration setting
[13:09] <gorakhargosh> I have the same problem with Windows 7 too. Booting it makes the screen go blank. So there's definitely something that isn't allowing either Windows/Linux to boot.
[13:09] <ionite> aetas: i can select a higher reso but it's very pixelated.
[13:09] <aetas> ionite, not lower?
[13:09] <gorakhargosh> Any help is appreciated. =)
[13:09] <ionite> Incarus6: i tried.
[13:10] <hyper_ch> hi there, I'm trying to get OS9 to talk to my *buntu box with netatalk
[13:10] <Incarus6> ionite, you allways need to reboot that changes will have an effect. This seems to be related to your issue: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=107336
[13:10] <ionite> aetas: now the display my screen is basically two thick black walls surroudning my monitor
[13:11] <hyper_ch> on OS9 I do see the server listed there but when I try to connect it just says that shis fileserver does not use any known way of registration
[13:11] <Incarus6> aetas, have a look at line 251 of ionite's Xorg.0.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/654470/
[13:11] <aetas> ionite, yeah its probably just a widescreen resolution you selected that your monitor doesn't support....which res do you have?
[13:11] <ionite> aetas: 1360x768
[13:11] <aetas> Incarus6, 0 bytes doesn't seem that demanding ;)
[13:12] <chrisg4u> Incarus6, All packages updated, is that all?
[13:12] <aetas> ionite, and which resolution were you able to get this working with before?
[13:12] <lizhenyuan19901> hello
[13:12] <ionite> aetas: what's puzzling is that why doesn't the monitor in preferences allows me to change resolution?
[13:12] <ionite> 1300X(forgot)
[13:12] <Incarus6> chrisg4u, close all instances of thunderbird, start it again and look in the info dialog if version is now 5.0
[13:12] <aetas> Incarus6, wonder if thats the last actual line or if its possibly doing that again and again and we only have the top part of the file
[13:12] <ionite> aetas: 1300X(forgot)
[13:12] <aetas> ionite, ok try that one
[13:13] <Incarus6> aetas, its the last line
[13:13] <joppan> how to recover grub 2 after overwrting mbr single ssd with win7
[13:13] <ThinkT510> !grub | joppan
[13:13] <aetas> ionite, you have to understand what happens behind how X selects its resolution, it queries the monitor and then removes invalid ones, etc
[13:13] <Incarus6> aetas, according to the following website that line seems to cause the speed issue: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=107336
[13:14] <aetas> Incarus6, that guy is also running a video card close to his model
[13:14] <joppan> ubottu: but i hv a doubt i hav sep / and /boot partion on same hdd
[13:14] <joppan> ubottu: bot means
[13:14] <joppan> ubottu: k
[13:14] <chrisg4u> Incarus6, Now using 5.0 will see if problem is resolved
[13:15] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2   joppan please read
[13:15] <aetas> Incarus6, I dont think hes running KDE however, so I wonder what the actual resolution was for him
[13:15] <joppan> bazhang: thanks
[13:15] <ionite> aetas: i dont' get u
[13:15] <Incarus6> aetas, it's not a KDE related issue in my oppinion
[13:16] <aetas> yeah more than likely his switching just caused something else to happen that resolved it
[13:16] <chrisg4u> Incarus6, still crashes, I dunno what to try to not make it crash :(
[13:16] <ionite> Incarus6: so what should i type?
[13:16] <aetas> ionite, what monitor is this?
[13:17] <aetas> Incarus6, I've gotta do a quick 10 minute dev meeting, can you help him for a bit while Im gone?
[13:17] <Incarus6> chrisg4u, is it crashing while you're trying to read an e-mail?
[13:18] <Incarus6> aetas, sure
[13:18] <ionite> aetas: samsun sync master SA300
[13:18] <chrisg4u> It crashes about 5 seconds after opening the program, If i am fast enough I can check a few email quickly but it doesnt matter what I go on it freezes
[13:18] <ne2k> I upgraded to natty a few days ago and everything was working fine, but now sound has stopped working. I hear clicks and pops from the sound device but no actual audio playback. I have tried rebooting, I have tried sudo /sbin/alsa force-reload, I have tried rm ~/.pulse*, I have tried pulseaudio --kill; pulseaudio --start; none of these fixes the problem
[13:19] <ionite> Incarus6: how can i fully utilitse my display resolution? it still got two thick black walls
[13:19] <Incarus6> ionite, can you paste the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf and tell me which resolution you actually want?
[13:19] <gorakhargosh> also, i'm not able to boot into Ubuntu from a Live USB either on a Macbook Pro
[13:19] <gorakhargosh> again the screen goes blank. =(
[13:20] <raluxgaza> gorakhargosh: get a regular laptop, thnkpad maybe :p
[13:20] <gorakhargosh> raluxgaza: haha
[13:20] <raluxgaza> gorakhargosh: :D
[13:20] <Incarus6> gorakhargosh, are you sure that computer /(or graphic card) is completly supported?
[13:21] <ionite> Incarus6: what command do i type to copy the text u want?
[13:21] <gorakhargosh> Incarus6: yes. i had both Windows and Ubuntu running earlier.
[13:21] <gorakhargosh> Incarus6: i had working partitions of both and suddenly both stopped working.
[13:21] <ne2k> this is incredibly frustrating and I now wish I had never upgraded. what a complete and utter mess
[13:21] <Incarus6> ionite, just start "gedit" and open the file ;)
[13:22] <ionite> Incarus6: mind giving me the exact commands? because i'm an idiot to ubuntu terminal
[13:23] <Incarus6> ionite, gedit is a graphical editor, you can start it via the menu (no need for the terminal here). But I can give you a command: "gedit /etc/X11/xorg.con"
[13:23] <Incarus6> ionite, * "gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[13:23] <jrib> ne2k: I'm in a similar situation to you... sound worked great on maverick but on natty I'm randomly presented with dummy output in pulse.  Can you check if your issue is the same?  Does pavucontrol show dummy output or something else?
[13:23] <kooth> ne2k, did you try one music player or several? maybe this is about changed settings
[13:24] <ionite> Incarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/654484/
[13:24] <ne2k> jrib: kooth: my real sound card is really there in alsamixer and in "sound preferences". I have tried "play" (from sox) as well as rhythmbox, flash video, and hardware->test speakers in sound preferences
[13:25] <gorakhargosh> so does anybody here use UBuntu on a Macbook along side OS X and has this problem?
[13:25] <jrib> ne2k: I don't know what "sound preferences" is exactly, would you mind checking pavucontrol?
[13:25] <ne2k> I'm going to try purging and reinstalling alsa
[13:25] <captainjackstraw> @gorak, what problem?
[13:25] <Incarus6> ionite, do you know the difference between the proprietary nvidia and the open-source nouveau driver?
[13:26] <gorakhargosh> captainjackstraw: booting into Ubuntu using reFit blanks the screen. Nothing happens thereafter.
[13:26] <ionite> Incarus6: no idea.
[13:26] <captainjackstraw> @gorak, I havent had that problem, try reinstalling refit
[13:26] <ne2k> jrib: sound preferences is under the speaker icon on the panel
[13:27] <humbolt> I have converted an EC2 ubuntu 10.04 image to a xen image. Now I am experiencing strange freezes of the system.
[13:27] <gorakhargosh> captainjackstraw: i did.
[13:27] <jrib> ne2k: yes, but as I said, I am not sure what that is
[13:27] <ne2k> jrib: what is pavucontrol?
[13:27] <humbolt> I have remove landscape-client and cloud-init but left the rest as is
[13:27] <ionite> Incarus6: how do i adjust my resolution? my monitor preferences doesn't allow me to change the resolution?
[13:27] <humbolt> what could be the problem?
[13:27] <gorakhargosh> captainjackstraw: still no go.
[13:27] <jrib> ne2k: it is a program that allows you to play with pulseaudio settings
[13:28] <robin_> exit
[13:28] <Incarus6> inoite, I think it's not important at the moment, but we will keep that in mind. Try to remove the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf, reboot after that. type "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_old && sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf" as one command. reboot after that
[13:28] <Incarus6> *ionite
[13:29] <ignerious> wow
[13:30] <ionite> Incarus6:  alright see u
[13:31] <Incarus6> ionite, is your problem fixed after reboot?
[13:31] <ne2k> I'm thinking I've really got no option but to do a fresh install
[13:31] <gorakhargosh> brb
[13:31] <jrib> ne2k: what did pavucontrol say?
[13:33] <ne2k> jribit shows my sound device, with the correct port listed
[13:33] <max06|work> Good evening - Noone wants to answer in #ubuntu-server, so I need to ask here :)
[13:33] <jrib> ne2k: and when you play something, what happens?  Do you see it in playback tab with meter bouncing?
[13:33] <ne2k> jrib: and when I play sound, the meter goes up and down to show the sound, but it doesn't come out of the headphoens
[13:34] <kooth> ne2k, I can't understand if you're using pulseaudio or just alsa? maybe you could try to use just alsa
[13:34] <jrib> ne2k: no speakers?
[13:34] <ne2k> jrib: headphones are speakers, they've just got foam pads and a band attached to them
[13:35] <ne2k> kooth: I'm using pulseaudio. I installed ubuntu 10.10 and upgraded to 11.04, and I haven't changed anything fundamental about the way the whole thing works
[13:35] <robinlox> whois zyro
[13:35] <ionite_> Incarus6: i' mback
[13:35] <max06|work> I need to modify the ubuntu 10.04 LTS Server-Install-Image. I've written a script, which needs to be executed after the first boot after installation. Problem is, I'm not running ubuntu as working system, so I canÄt use Remastersys... any ideas?
[13:35] <brianherman1> hello
[13:35] <brianherman1> i am using gnome3
[13:36] <dr_willis> sorry to hear that brianherman1  :)
[13:36] <brianherman1> and i am missing the system settings application
[13:36] <bazhang> brianherman1, its not supported
[13:36] <brianherman1> well
[13:36] <bazhang> !gnome3 | brianherman1
[13:36] <ne2k> jrib: this program is much the same as the "sound preferences" app, it's just got those meters which is handy
[13:36] <dr_willis> itsnt it still called gnome-control-center or somthing liek that
[13:36] <dr_willis> bbl
[13:36] <brianherman1> oh but the system settings application
[13:36] <brianherman1> i have installed from a server install
[13:36] <bazhang> brianherman1, please dont ask for help here, its not supported
[13:36] <kooth> ne2k, well, maybe you could try to use just alsa with no pulseaudio? you could try to change settings in your player to alsa and see if it works
[13:36] <jrib> ne2k: haha yes of course headphones are not different than speakers, good point.  Though sometimes computers will have separate jacks that people use for headphones.  Is that the case for you?
[13:37] <ionite_> Incarus6: i still got 2 thick black walls on my display
[13:37] <ne2k> jrib: yes. but the jack is working, because I get pops and clicks.
[13:37] <brianherman1> can you please tell me what the package name of the system settings application is
[13:37] <brianherman1> this has nothing todo with gnome3
[13:37] <Incarus6> ionite_, is the speed issue fixed?
[13:37] <bazhang> brianherman1, please no, its not supported
[13:37] <brianherman1> :\
[13:37] <brianherman1> ok
[13:38] <ionite_> Incarus6: i think so. but i still cant change into the desire resolution which is not pixelated.
[13:38] <ionite_> Incarus6: do i need to update my monitor drivers?
[13:38] <brianherman1> but it wont show up in regular gnome either
[13:38] <brianherman1> oh you guys support unity right
[13:38] <Incarus6> ionite_, there is no newer version of your graphic card driver then this one which you're actually using. Do you know which resolution would be fine?
[13:39] <ionite_> Incarus6: 1280X768
[13:39] <jrib> ne2k: if another jack does exist, you may try it as a troubleshooting step
[13:39] <brianherman1> i get this error when i tried to run unity
[13:40] <ne2k> jrib: yep, alraedy done that. same result
[13:40] <Incarus6> ionite_, on both screens?
[13:40] <brianherman1> gconf python package not found
[13:40] <ne2k> kooth: if I play a file with aplay (direct alsa player), I still get no sound
[13:40] <ionite_> Incarus6: what do u both screen?
[13:40] <ionite_> Incarus6: what do u mean both screen?
[13:41] <jrib> ne2k: you'll likely see aplay show up in pavucontrol
[13:41] <Incarus6> ionite_ you are just using one screen? or do you have a second screen?
[13:41] <ionite_> i only have 1 screen.
[13:41] <ionite_> Incarus6: i only have 1 screen
[13:42] <ne2k> jrib: so does that mean it's not actually using alsa directly, but going through PA?
[13:42] <ne2k> jrib: you're right, it comes up
[13:42] <Incarus6> ionite_, please paste "gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and "gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" again
[13:42] <aetas> well that was pointless
[13:42] <aetas> alright, where we at?
[13:42] <jrib> ne2k: I believe so.  I have not troubleshooted much (I've just been booting debian instead of ubuntu) but it seems like pulse gets started automatically, even if I kill it, and then do something like mplayer -ao alsa
[13:43] <sc30317> hey, i'm having problems running a cron job
[13:43] <sc30317> i edited it with crontab -e
[13:43] <sc30317> using my regular user
[13:43] <jrib> sc30317: you need to be more specific (on one line please)
[13:43] <ne2k> jrib: it seems alsa is configured to be an emulation layer that points back to PA
[13:43] <fedy> can some help on how to installing ubuntu?
[13:43] <sc30317> jrib, I can run a script manually but when I put it in crontab it doesn't run
[13:43] <Incarus6> aetas, according to his xorg.conf file he is using twinview http://paste.ubuntu.com/654484/ he said he doesn't have another screen. we deleted xorg.conf
[13:44] <jrib> sc30317: pastebin the script and your crontab line
[13:44] <ionite_> Incarus6: there's nothing ongedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:44] <sc30317> jrib ok
[13:44] <aetas> Incarus6, odd
[13:44] <jrib> ne2k: though it's not clear that your issue is a pulse-specific issue to me.  What sound card do you have?
[13:44] <oCean> fedy: do you have a particular question, or are you looking for general installation instructions?
[13:45] <ionite_> aetas:  Incarus6 http://paste.ubuntu.com/654496/
[13:45] <ne2k> jrib: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06) It was working fine yesterday!
[13:45] <Incarus6> aetas, I want to check if the speed issue still exist after deleting the xorg.conf file. If not we can change the resoultion properly - if it still exist we could change the driver to nouveau
[13:45] <fedy> oCean: yes
[13:45] <sc30317> jrib, crontab -l : http://paste.ubuntu.com/654497/
[13:45] <oCean> fedy: that is not a correct answer to my question
[13:45] <Psydoll> whats the ubuntu admin channel plz?
[13:45] <fedy> oCean: I been trying to install from usb but it installing
[13:45] <oCean> Psydoll: #ubuntu-ops
[13:45] <syrinx_> Psydoll: that was lame
[13:45] <ne2k> jrib: I could sort of understand it if I'd upgraded and it hadn't worked, but it's worked since I upgraded, and it just suddenly stopped
[13:46] <bazhang> fedy, using unetbootin?
[13:46] <jrib> ne2k: no package upgrades since?
[13:46] <aetas> Incarus6, how is nouveau anyway?  I haven't used it
[13:46] <ne2k> jrib: I think there have been a couple
[13:46] <Nismo6921> Can anyone please give me an easy solution to enabling sound on Ubuntu with a GTX470 Fermi Graphics Card with HDMI out?
[13:46] <sc30317> jrib, script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/654499/
[13:47] <ionite_> aetas: Incarus6  i need to put my monitor in 1280X768
[13:47] <Incarus6> aetas, some things like 3D isn't fully supported so I have no use for that driver, but it would work better then the proprietary driver with that bug
[13:47] <aetas> Incarus6, has he trying running with no effects?
[13:47] <jrib> ne2k: it was similar for me.  Everything seemed to work fine, then one upgrade and seemingly randomly I'll get dummy output in pavucontrol.  And sometimes restarting udev fixes it, and sometimes not...
[13:47] <fedy> oCean: I been trying to install using the universial usb installer
[13:47] <Nismo6921> Can anyone please give me an easy solution to enabling sound on Ubuntu with a GTX470 Fermi Graphics Card with HDMI out?
[13:47] <ionite_> aetas: should i remove the additonal driver part?
[13:48] <bazhang> fedy, I'd try unetbootin then
[13:48] <Incarus6> ionite_, please paste "xrandr"
[13:48] <aetas> ionite_, additional driver part where?
[13:49] <fedy> bazhang: thank you
[13:49] <jrib> sc30317: add 2>&1 to the end of the line in your script, then check /home/capgemini/Desktop/output.txt
[13:49] <tyler_d> I'm trying to roll back my nvidia driver to use the default one provided with ubuntu? help please?
[13:49] <fedy> I check it out
[13:49] <Incarus6> aetas, I read that this issue will also occur with disabled effects when running a game for example
[13:49] <bazhang> fedy, unetbootin.sourceforge.net if on another distro or windows
[13:49] <ne2k> jrib: have you been able to fix it?
[13:49] <Infernet> ionite_: have you installed the system to hdd? or boot it from a live cd?
[13:49] <ionite_> Infernet: installed to HDD
[13:49] <bazhang> fedy, if from ubuntu its in the ubuntu repos
[13:49] <Infernet> ionite_: sure?
[13:49] <fedy> can you use unetbootin on windows>
[13:50] <fedy> That was my next question
[13:50] <jrib> ne2k: no, I've just been booting debian :P  It also seems to be some sort of race condition because if I just wait like 10 minutes to login I usually don't have dummy output
[13:50] <fedy> yes
[13:50] <ionite_> Infernet: of cousre
[13:50] <ionite_> aetas:  Incarus6 http://paste.ubuntu.com/654503/
[13:50] <Nismo6921> so no one has an answer for me
[13:50] <Nismo6921> cool
[13:50] <ionite_> aetas: meaning i revert back to the original auto detection by ubuntu the resolution was perfect.
[13:50] <wols> Nismo6921: you're welcome
[13:51] <bazhang> fedy, yep, they have a windows version on that website
[13:51] <jrib> ne2k: have you checked bugs.ubuntu.com for your card/issue?  Also in my search for a solution to my own problem I see a lot of people adding things to alsa-base.conf to resolve sound issues
[13:51] <fedy> bazhang: ty iam cheching it out now
[13:52] <aetas> ionite_, this was working before right?  did this happen when you installed the new nvidia driver off their website?
[13:52] <ne2k> jrib: I don't have a dummy output, I have the real thing but no sound comes out of it
[13:52] <Nismo6921> wols: what gives man?
[13:52] <ionite_> aetas: ya it happened after installed it from nvidia website
[13:52] <sc30317> jrib, that fixed some issues; but now it is giving me an issue about shared libraries that I am not seeing when I just run the script by hand
[13:52] <Nismo6921> im really looking for assistance here
[13:52] <jrib> sc30317: hmm?
[13:52] <Nismo6921> it seems im being ignored
[13:52] <ionite_> aetas: i was told that the lag i am experiencing was due to the video card so i had to update with the latest driver
[13:52] <matbee> does anyone here know how to remove the 'clear' option from chats in Empathy?
[13:53] <Incarus6> !patient | Nismo6921
[13:53] <safe> Hi! If I was to put a GUI on my server(ubuntu server 11.04) do you think it would sloow it down? IF not which one should I install?
[13:53] <matbee> It's where 'copy' should be, and im constantly clearing my chats
[13:53] <bazhang> Nismo6921, help with what
[13:53] <jrib> Nismo6921: if we don't the answer, we can't answer :/
[13:53] <sc30317> jrib, the output of the script now is:
[13:53] <sc30317> jrib, sqlplus: error while loading shared libraries: libsqlplus.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[13:53] <Nismo6921> i have no sound on Ubuntu with GTX470
[13:53] <aetas> ionite_, right but was this ever working in ubuntu?
[13:53] <sc30317> jrib, but thats not the output when I run it as my user
[13:53] <ionite_> Incarus6: aetas: worsestill additional drivers recommended me to install it.
[13:54] <Infernet> ionite_: u need the "current" version of nvidia driver
[13:54] <CrusaderAD> Any know of anything different in empathy 3 as opposed to 2.34?
[13:54] <sc30317> CrusaderAD, look at the changelog
[13:54] <ionite_> aetas: what do u mean?
[13:55] <ionite_> Infernet: are u sure?
[13:55] <CrusaderAD> sc30317 where is that?
[13:55] <Incarus6> ionite_, he wondered if it was working properly before (and since when/what)
[13:55] <safe> What GUI should I install?
[13:55] <sc30317> CrusaderAD, probably on the empathy website
[13:55] <sc30317> google
[13:55] <Infernet> ionite_: of course
[13:55] <sc30317> jrib, any ideas?
[13:55] <Nismo6921> Please help I love Ubuntu but I dont want a sound issue to be the thing that makes me hate working with it
[13:56] <Nismo6921> GTX470 hdmi out no sound
[13:56] <ionite_> Incarus6: before i used additonal driver, it was working properly.
[13:56] <ionite_> Infernet: how do i go about? what does it solves?
[13:56] <jrib> sc30317: I guess you have some sort of custom install with this sqlplus thing?
[13:56] <sc30317> jrib, that is correct
[13:56] <aetas> ionite_, ok there...what did you do that made it stop working?
[13:56] <CrusaderAD> sc30317 their website is garbage, been there, oh well
[13:56] <Troy^> i still dont think i have the proper graphics driver installed because when i move windows arround my screen they sort of jitter. i'm running a mobile hd 5870
[13:56] <fedy> bazhang: thanks it also got alot of other utililies that I was looking for like Ophcrack
[13:56] <sc30317> jrib, it works fine when I invoke the script manually, so I know it isn't a script problem
[13:56] <ionite_> aetas: use addtional driver installation.
[13:57] <safe> Anyone?
[13:57] <mankeletor_> hi all
[13:57] <tyler_d> what are the default display drivers in ubuntu?
[13:57] <Incarus6> ionite_, so before you enabled that driver in the dialog?
[13:57] <jrib> sc30317: pastebin « env » as your user
[13:57] <th0r> safe:  the one that matches your car
[13:57] <aetas> Incarus6, Im assuming the default installed in ubuntu is nouveau?
[13:57] <safe> th0r: I don'#t have a car
[13:57] <Incarus6> aetas, I suppose it was using nouveau as default before enabling the proprietary driver
[13:57] <aetas> lol
[13:57] <Incarus6> aetas, correct ;)
[13:57] <th0r> safe: the gui is a personal choice; no one can tell you what to install
[13:58] <aetas> ionite_, yeah lets switch back to nouveau in that case
[13:58] <ionite_> Incarus6: i think so.
[13:58] <safe> th0r: which one do you think is faster? what does clientos use?
[13:58] <sc30317> jrib, my env: http://paste.ubuntu.com/654512/
[13:58] <Nismo6921> my gui is gooey
[13:58] <ionite_> aetas: so i go to additional driver and click REMOVE?
[13:58] <gorakhargosh> nope. captainjackstraw didn't work.
[13:58] <th0r> safe: lxde is probably one of the lightest
[13:58] <jrib> sc30317: guess: setup LD_LIBRARY_PATH (and maybe ORACLE_HOME) the same way in your crontab
[13:59] <aetas> ionite_, yeah try that
[13:59] <Incarus6> safe, it isn't called GUI, it is called a desktop environment. There are many environments that doesn't slow down your server
[13:59] <safe> th0r: Okay, thanks. How can I make  it so you have to enter a command to start the GUI like in backtrack you have to do 'startx'
[13:59] <sc30317> jrib, thanks ill try that H/O
[13:59] <Nismo6921> Nvidia GTX470 hdmi out no sound on Ubuntu 10.10
[13:59] <wols> safe: disable your displaymanager
[13:59] <wols> Nismo6921: http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc
[14:00] <mankeletor_> how can I do to find files without this chars: [A-Za-z0-9\,\.\&\(\)\-] I'm trying to find files with invalid characters
[14:00] <Nismo6921> Wols: then tell me how I need to properly word my question so that it will be answered
[14:00] <ionite_> aetas: my banshee makes weird repeating noise whenever my comp lags.
[14:01] <Troy^> hmm
[14:01] <wols> Nismo6921: the article I linked tells you how to maximize your chances. but you obviously don't want to read it
[14:01] <aetas> ionite_, is this new or an old problem?
[14:01] <Incarus6> aetas, ionite_, we should enable nouveau again
[14:01] <Nismo6921> Wols: im reading it now
[14:01] <Troy^> im having some ubuntu classic(gnome 2) issues seems unstable like i'll get interface freezing :S
[14:01] <Incarus6> aetas, it's an old problem because it is related with the proprietary driver
[14:01] <wols> mankeletor_: how can the yhave invalid chars? if they do, how could they exist on the filesystem?
[14:02] <gorakhargosh> nevermind. i'll simply run ubuntu in a vm
[14:02] <ne2k> jrib: it seems there is a mismatch between the alsa driver version and the library and utilities versions
[14:02] <jrib> ne2k: that's weird
[14:02] <ne2k> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/166005
[14:02] <ionite_> Incarus6: how should i enable?
[14:02] <ionite_> aetas: it's a lagging problem? which causes these weird noises? how do i updated my sound card driver?
[14:04] <aetas> ionite_, one thing at a time...did you remove that driver?
[14:04] <Incarus6> ionite_, just to clarify that: have you downloaded the driver from nvidia.com or have you just enabled it in the additional driver dialog?
[14:04] <ionite_> Incarus6: i did both
[14:05] <ionite_> aetas: Incarus6 let me now restart BRB.
[14:05] <mankeletor_> wols, they are some special spanish characters that looks like this �... and the files was unpacked from a rar archive created in windows (charset ISO-8859-1 i guess)
[14:05] <Incarus6> aetas, I wondered if he really installed the nvidia.com driver because many newbies doesn't know how to do that, ionite_
[14:06] <Nismo6921> Im trying to enable sound with the use of Alas Mixer but it will not see my GTX470 card. The hdmi output is shown in the audio preferences but neither of which produce sound. I've read a few articles saying I need to discover which device is producing sound. But I do not know how to do this. Can someone please guide me in enabling my sound. Thank you.
[14:06] <ne2k> jrib: I'm trying the fix there
[14:08] <jkeats> how do i add a "lock" widget to the panel in kde?
[14:08] <tyler_d> what is the default display driver in ubuntu called please?
[14:08] <sc30317> jrib, that didn't help
[14:08] <aetas> Incarus6, no telling....I just installed nvidia-current instead of the ones off the website.  I dont see much of a point in installing those really
[14:09] <blkdg> hi, i am using ubuntu 10.10 86 bit and i installed LAMP using aptget for the individual packaged outlined here http://tech.mobiletod.com/how-to-install-lamp-serverapache-mysql-php-on-ubuntu-10-10/ My question is this. when i use aptget purge to remove the packages, it removes php and phpmyadmin and mysql. but apache2 is still running. i can see it from my browser.
[14:09] <jrib> sc30317: where is libsqlplus.so located?
[14:09] <blkdg> how do i remove apache2 if apt-get purge apache2 dosn't get rid of it?
[14:09] <Incarus6> aetas, Im allways installing the latest (beta and final) drivers from nvidia.com ;)
[14:09] <ionite> aetas: Incarus6  i'm back
[14:10] <aetas> Incarus6, do you run games?
[14:10] <Nismo6921> wols: i dont know what else to do bro i tried to compose my problem in a neater fashion and yet i still received no assistance
[14:10] <ionite> aetas: Incarus6  screen looks great & wonderful.
[14:10] <Incarus6> aetas, of course, and Windows 7 in VirtualBox
[14:10] <th0r> blkdg: did you install with apt-get or synaptic?
[14:10] <Incarus6> ionite, speed issue fixed?
[14:10] <blkdg> th0r apt-get.
[14:10] <aetas> Incarus6, makes a different...this is just my laptop
[14:11] <th0r> blkdg: then apt-get should remove it.
[14:11] <blkdg> th0r, i also did a full remove using synaptic.
[14:11] <th0r> blkdg: what makes you think it isn't uninstalled?
[14:11] <safe> th0r: Okay, I've installed lxde how do I activate it?
[14:11] <blkdg> th0r, i can get to 127.0.0.1
[14:11] <ionite> Incarus6: significantly though some applications are little slow
[14:12] <Incarus6> ionite, you are now using the open-source driver called "nouveau". It seems to be working better in your case because the nvidia proprietary driver got that speed and flat-panel issue. So you could wheter use the nouveau driver from now or use the nouveau driver 'til this was fixed
[14:12] <th0r> safe: at the login screen choose lxde from the Sessions menu. I don't use lxde so I am not sure, but from the command line you might try 'startlxde' ...
[14:12] <Nismo6921> ok then let me ask this is Ubuntu more compatible with an Optical Audio Output that is onboard than an HDMI that is on my video card?
[14:12] <ionite> Incarus6: so i guess i can't use the 3d unity then
[14:12] <sc30317> jrib, /usr/lib/oracle/xe/app/oracle/product/10.2.0/client/lib/libsqlplus.so
[14:12] <sc30317> /usr/lib/oracle/xe/app/oracle/product/10.2.0/server/lib/libsqlplus.so
[14:12] <sc30317> /usr/lib/oracle/11.2/client/lib/libsqlplus.so
[14:13] <ionite> Incarus6: how do i install the latest java plugin?
[14:13] <th0r> blkdg: did you stop apache before uninstalling?
[14:13] <blkdg> no
[14:13] <Incarus6> !java | ionite
[14:13] <llutz> blkdg: dpkg -l '*apache*'|grep ii
[14:14] <ionite> Incarus6: anyway to speed up ubuntu?
[14:14] <pdrm> \join #tehlug
[14:14] <ne2k> jrib: that has fixed it! amazing
[14:14] <jrib> ne2k: heh, good job
[14:14] <sc30317> jrib, this pastebin has my crontab, my script, and my env output: http://pastebin.com/5NPWrihA
[14:14] <blkdg> llutz, ii  apache2-mpm-prefork                       2.2.16-1ubuntu3.1                                 Apache HTTP Server - traditional non-threaded model
[14:15] <Incarus6> ionite, define "speed up". Are just some applications slow or the whole environment?
[14:15] <llutz> blkdg: sudo apt-get purge apache2-mpm-prefork
[14:15] <ionite> Incarus6: the whole environment
[14:15] <herbster> hey guys
[14:15] <ionite> Incarus6: and applications
[14:15] <blkdg> llutz, as well as the other four that showed up in the dpkg list?
[14:15] <llutz> blkdg: yes
[14:15] <herbster> anyone know what the situation is with maximum number of logical partitions on a linux drive?
[14:15] <herbster> i've got this 2TB drive here
[14:16] <Incarus6> ionite, can you paste "gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"?
[14:16] <herbster> if i use fdisk, the maximum number of partitions of equal size i can create is about 55
[14:16] <Nismo6921> im done i cant any response from anybody but annoyed moderators
[14:16] <herbster> if i use fdisk
[14:16] <herbster> err sfdisk
[14:16] <herbster> then i can create at least 100 logical partitions
[14:16] <ionite> Incarus6: i read the java link but i still don't get it. what do u  mean?
[14:16] <jrib> !support | Nismo6921
[14:16] <goodtime> lo herbster
[14:16] <herbster> but only the first 10 (i.e. /dev/sda5 through 15) show up in /dev
[14:16] <jrib> Nismo6921: if no one can help you here at the moment, try later or the alternatives ubottu gave above
[14:16] <Incarus6> Nismo6921, most people doesn't know the answer because they aren't using audio over hdmi, please be patient
[14:17] <Nismo6921> oh finally a response
[14:17] <herbster> nobody?
[14:17] <Nismo6921> thats all you had to say dude
[14:17] <jrib> sc30317: why is "capgemini" in your user's crontab?
[14:18] <tyler_d> what is the default display driver in ubuntu called please?
[14:18] <sc30317> jrib, user permissions
[14:18] <llutz> herkupus: its an old limitation to max 15 partitions on scsi-devices
[14:18] <Incarus6> ionite, install "sun-java6-plugin"
[14:18] <brianherman1> hello
[14:18] <jrib> sc30317: username isn't specified in a user's crontab
[14:18] <sc30317> jrib, just took it out; forgot I had put it in there
[14:18] <brianherman1> i am missing the thing that installs the restricted drivers
[14:18] <sc30317> just tried it a couple minutes ago
[14:18] <llutz> herkupus: no you, sry
[14:18] <blkdg> llutz, THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:19] <blkdg> th0r, looks like some pkgs were still lying around. thanks again.
[14:19] <jrib> sc30317: inside /home/capgemini/scripts/runsqlcommand.sh  have it spit out the value of LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[14:19] <goodtime> herbster:please wait a minute
[14:19] <ionite> Incarus6: command not found
[14:19] <sc30317> jrib, okay
[14:20] <herkupus> llutz: yeah, block-8-15 is sda15, block-8-16 is sdb
[14:20] <Incarus6> tyler_d, that depends on your graphic card. There isn't something like the ultimative default driver
[14:20] <ionite> Incarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/654522/
[14:20] <sc30317> jrib, fixed it :)
[14:20] <jrib> sc30317: eh?
[14:20] <sc30317> jrib, yea I just had to put those paths at the top of my cron job
[14:20] <jrib> sc30317: ok
[14:20] <goodtime> herbster: pm
[14:21] <tyler_d> Incarus6: I am running an nvidia gt330M ; alternately how would I figure out which driver(not the nvidia one) would be in use?
[14:21] <ionite> Incarus6: my sound card still got the repeating noise whenever my system is busy booting something.
[14:21] <blkdg> Nismo6921, what's the hdmi question? i just read back...
[14:21] <sc30317> jrib, thanks for your help; you're the man!
[14:21] <sc30317> (or woman)
[14:21] <jrib> ne2k: I guess I'll give that alsa script a try later to see if it finds anything interesting on my ubuntu
[14:21] <jrib> sc30317: no problem :D
[14:22] <Nismo6921> blkdg: I cant get any sound out of my GTX470
[14:22] <Bisu[Shield]> I am using wine's First startup wizard.  The wine paths are wine bin:/usr/bin/wine, wine server:/usr/bin/wineserver; wine loader: /usr/bin/wine; what is the path for wine libs?
[14:22] <sc30317> who am I kidding?  we are all men in here :D
[14:22] <krosh> is there a tool to monitor the ssh logs?
[14:22] <blkdg> Nismo6921, laptop or desktop
[14:22] <Nismo6921> desktop
[14:22] <Bisu[Shield]> am I invisible?
[14:23] <blkdg> forget the hdmi for a sec. do you get audio out of the 1/4 jack?
[14:23] <ionite> aetas: do u know how to solve the repeating noise @ banshee whenever my system is busy booting?
[14:23] <olzhas> hey guys
[14:23] <olzhas> any xorg synaptics developers are here?
[14:24] <ThinkT510> !wine | Bisu[Shield]
[14:24] <Incarus6> tyler_d, the default driver is nouveau. start jockey, if the priprietary driver isn't enabled you are using nouveau
[14:25] <ionite> Incarus6: did i paste correctly for u to see?
[14:26] <tyler_d> Incarus6: ok, so with nouveau installed, what is the "driver" reference in xorg.conf please?
[14:26] <Nismo6921> blkdg: do you need any additional information?
[14:26] <Incarus6> inoite, the previous issue seems to be fixed, I don't know why your computer is still slow
[14:26] <blkdg> Nismo6921, forget the hdmi for a sec. do you get audio out of the 1/4 jack?
[14:26] <Nismo6921> oh to be honest I have not tried
[14:27] <blkdg> there is no try ;)
[14:27] <Nismo6921> my only speakers are a 5.1 surround sound system
[14:27] <blkdg> use headphones
[14:27] <Nismo6921> I can hook them up via optical or hdmi
[14:27] <blkdg> whatever
[14:27] <Incarus6> tyler_d, reference? can you paste xorg.conf file?
[14:27] <Nismo6921> should I try optical hook up?
[14:27] <ionite> Incarus6: what about my sound card?
[14:27] <blkdg> try to get 1/4 inch jack to work. use headphones if you have too.
[14:27] <blkdg> to
[14:28] <Nismo6921> for testing purposes or all the time?
[14:28] <blkdg> Nismo6921, testing.
[14:28] <Nismo6921> cause Id rather not use headphones all the time
[14:28] <Incarus6> ionite, a good solution is allways to just not use something. can you try VLC instead of banshee?
[14:28] <blkdg> testing purposes
[14:28] <Nismo6921> unfortunately im not on the system currently with the issue nor am i near it
[14:29] <tyler_d> Incarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/654533/ <--- I only have the one created by nvidia-xconfig as I was trying to use the proprietary driver. I was forced to remove(not use) xorg.conf as a result of this in order to get a gui back
[14:29] <ionite> oh.. alright. i tot ubuntu preinstalled software are better. hehe
[14:30] <blkdg> ok, then. when you're near it, go to sound prefrences, then unplug any hdmi connections and plug only one thing into the soundcard, a simple speaker or a pair of headphones. trouble shoot from there.
[14:30] <ionite> Incarus6: last part. how do i import all my URLs to firefox?
[14:30] <Incarus6> tyler_d, it's the third driver calld nv, it's obsolete. what version of ubuntu are you currently using?
[14:30] <tyler_d> Incarus6: 11.04
[14:30] <blkdg> i can't help much more than that without you there.
[14:30] <Nismo6921> blkdg: are the most current updates able to handle hdmi output...i may have a bunch of updates that I have not yet installed
[14:30] <Incarus6> ionite, is that another question? and which URLS?
[14:31] <ionite> Incarus6: yep
[14:31] <ionite> Incarus6: i backed up all my bookmarks from windows using firefox
[14:32] <Xethron_> Hello
[14:32] <blkdg> Nismo6921, updates are free and easy with *buntu, so yeah, keep system up to date.
[14:32] <Incarus6> tyler_d, correct me if I'm wrong but "nv" doesn't exist in 11.04 anymore. Have you wrote that manually in the file or is it just an old file?
[14:32] <Nismo6921> blkdg: i mean the only other thing I can think of is try using the optical audio output from the motherboard that should be more compatible than the hdmi right?
[14:32] <Incarus6> ionite, how have you backed up them. with an addon or manually?
[14:32] <tyler_d> Incarus6: flying by the seat of my pants, I believe you are correct. what should that read please?
[14:33] <blkdg> Nismo6921, my hdmi audio works well, but occasionally i have to remember to force shut off the sound adaptor in my soundprefrences.
[14:33] <blkdg> Nismo6921, no. i think the opposite.
[14:33] <tyler_d> Incarus6: p.s. manually configured
[14:33] <Nismo6921> wait what?
[14:33] <Nismo6921> what sound adaptor
[14:33] <Nismo6921> maybe thats why mine does work
[14:33] <blkdg> Nismo6921, i think that hdmi sound support will come faster than digital audio out
[14:33] <Nismo6921> not*
[14:33] <Incarus6> tyler_d, why have you wrote "nv" in the file? Are you using old documentaries?
[14:34] <Nismo6921> what adaptor are you disabling
[14:34] <prezident> hello people im trying to back up my ubuntu 11.04 system, i looked on the internet and found rsync, simple backup and something with tar i want to use rsync because i can backup and restore can somebody show me how to properly use rsync to backup my whole system excluding the normal folders that nobody would back up
[14:34] <prezident> ?
[14:34] <blkdg> Nismo6921, internal audio analogue stereo out
[14:35] <Nismo6921> oh!!!
[14:35] <blkdg> i then turn on the hdmi one.
[14:35] <Nismo6921> i have to have that disabled?
[14:35] <ThinkT510> !rsync | prezident
[14:36] <blkdg> Nismo6921, IN MY CASE, i have to turn off the analogue out and turn on the hdmi out when i use hdmi cable
[14:36] <blkdg> i am using a rs780 azalia module / card
[14:36] <prezident> ubottu so whats the best way i can back up my system to my drive ?
[14:36] <prezident> lmao
[14:36] <Nismo6921> now that you mention that i think i read that somewhere that all other audio options have to be disabled before the hdmi works
[14:37] <Nismo6921> i dont why i didnt even think to try it ill do that when i get back home
[14:37] <Nismo6921> thanks blkdg!
[14:37] <blkdg> good luck
[14:38] <prezident> whats the best way to backup my ubuntu 11.04 to my drive
[14:38] <Incarus6> tyler_d, try to remove the xorg.conf file and start jockey and enable the proprietary driver, reboot and it should work
[14:38] <OerHeks> !backup
[14:38] <tyler_d> Incarus6: what is "jockey" please?
[14:39] <Incarus6> tyler_d, that additional-driver-dailog-thing
[14:39] <Incarus6> *dialog
[14:39] <blkdg> llutz, if i dig through dpkg again looking for mysql this time, and purge the mysql pkgs that i find, will that eliminate any mysql config files that are haunting my installation?
[14:39] <blkdg> Hey MarkShuttleworth !
[14:39] <blkdg> :)
[14:39] <llutz> blkdg: only systemwide config-files, not your personal
[14:40] <MarkShuttleworth> Hello
[14:41] <Incarus6> UK IP? no cloak? fake :D
[14:41] <stevethepirate> Hey, my graphics card is being picked up by lspci, but the drivers for it are not available (via restricted drivers section). Any help?
[14:41] <MarkShuttleworth> I don't wear a cloak, it's the downfall of superheros
[14:42] <tyler_d> Incarus6: apt-get install jockey?
[14:42] <Incarus6> tyler_d, no, jockey is preinstalled, it should be called "Additional Driver" in the menu (or similar)
[14:43] <tyler_d> Incarus6: sorry, which menu are you refering to ?
[14:43] <blkdg> do you mean cape?
[14:44] <blkdg> llutz, and i;m assuming that the personal ones are stored in /home in a hidden dir, right?
[14:44] <Incarus6> tyler_d, nevermind, just type "jockey-gtk" in terminal
[14:44] <llutz> blkdg: afaik its only ~/.my.cnf
[14:45] <blkdg> ok
[14:46] <ionite> Incarus6: how do install respositories?
[14:47] <Incarus6> ionite, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20Ubuntu%20Software%20Repositories
[14:48] <tyler_d> Incarus6: under driver, what does your machine have listed? ie. nv?
[14:49] <ThinkT510> tyler_d: nv is depreciated
[14:49] <stevethepirate> Hey, my graphics card is being picked up by lspci, but the drivers for it are not available (via restricted drivers section). Any help?
[14:49] <stevethepirate> ThinkT510: should I compile noveau from source?
[14:49] <tyler_d> ThinkT510: what should the "driver" say then please?
[14:50] <tyler_d> ThinkT510: for noveau?
[14:50] <ThinkT510> tyler_d: either nouveau or nvidia, depending on what you have installed
[14:50] <Incarus6> tyler_d, nv is dead. Usually "nvidia-current", its the priprietary driver
[14:50] <tyler_d> Incarus6: that. is fantastic, tyvm guys
[14:50] <ThinkT510> stevethepirate: why would you want to do that?
[14:50] <ionite> Incarus6: i tried /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:51] <ionite> Incarus6: but it says permission denied
[14:51] <sandyd> ionite: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:51] <Incarus6> ionite, try the graphical way which is mentioned in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20Ubuntu%20Software%20Repositories
[14:51] <nikitis> Question, does anyone know what program or script is used to auto detect your gateway when using a live cd?
[14:51] <stevethepirate> ThinkT510: I mean, I have a nvidia gfx card, but the drivers for it not getting picked up.
[14:52] <Incarus6> tyler_d you're welcome
[14:52] <Incarus6> stevethepirate, do you prefer the priprietary or the open-source driver?
[14:52] <stevethepirate> Incarus6: The one that'll be the best?
[14:52] <sandyd> stevethepirate: are you connected to the net? If your not, the propreity drivers don't show
[14:53] <stevethepirate> sandyd: I was on the net when I did the check
[14:53] <nikitis> Is there a ubuntu development channel?
[14:53] <Incarus6> stevethepirate, depends on your card and on your needs
[14:53] <stevethepirate> VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 1040 (rev a1)
[14:53] <stevethepirate> I'd just like decent support for average rendering processes.
[14:53] <b0ba> Can anybody help with latest GRUB2 update ?
[14:54] <stevethepirate> Most importantly, maybe a higher desktop resolution.
[14:54] <stevethepirate> (1024x768 :<)
[14:54] <Incarus6> stevethepirate, please paste lspci
[14:55] <stevethepirate> http://pastebin.com/bbvpCTws
[14:56] <Incarus6> stevethepirate, is your computer or your card new?
[14:56] <b0ba> how to enable debug mode in Grub2 console ?
[14:57] <nikitis> What is the ubuntu development irc channel?
[14:57] <stevethepirate> Incarus6: both.
[14:57] <DJones> nikitis: #ubuntu+1 for the unreleased version in testing etc
[14:57] <nikitis> DJones: thanks
[14:57] <Incarus6> stevethepirate, do you know which graphic card your computer is using?
[14:58] <blkdg> llutz, i looked for the file in dpkg's descritopns and got rid of purge mysql-common that did the trick. i can loginto phpmyadmin not (i reinstalled it as well) thanks again. llutz
[14:58] <damno> hi
[14:58] <blkdg> have a good weekend folks. i'm off to play with php !
[14:59] <cupcakeone> hey all
[14:59] <wols> stevethepirate: you will need the latest nvidia.com drivers most probably.
[14:59] <stevethepirate> Incarus6: one sec.
[14:59] <ThinkT510> !grub | b0ba
[14:59] <cupcakeone> if you take the bootable flag off from a partition during installation, do you loose the data on it?
[14:59] <wols> Incarus6: a gf119 which translates to a low end GF5xxM GT. a mobile chip
[15:00] <stevethepirate> Incarus6: N520GT
[15:00] <damno> previously vdos bufferd in FF or chrome would usually reside in /tmp which I would simply copy. but now there are no buffrd vdo files in /tmp :( neither for chrome nor FF . is something  wrong or may the browsers have changed the way they handle buffered vdos?
[15:01] <wols> stevethepirate: how do you know the restricted drivers don't work? any error messages? checked Xorg.0.log?
[15:01] <sandyd> damno: youtube changed it a while ago. use flashgot
[15:01] <ne2k> after upgrading to natty, gtk-window-decorator crashes with a segmentation fault whenever I click the top left "window operations" button on any window
[15:01] <stevethepirate> wols: They are not shown as offers to download
[15:01] <wols> stevethepirate: and which ubuntu version are you running?
[15:01] <stevethepirate> 11.04
[15:01] <damno> sandyd: flashgot in ubuntu??
[15:01] <Incarus6> stevethepirate, GT 520? try to install that driver: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-275.21-driver.html
[15:01] <sandyd> damno: flashgot firefox extension
[15:01] <prezident> what is the best way to back up your ubuntu system to a drive?
[15:02] <ThinkT510> !backup | prezident
[15:02] <sujian> j
[15:02] <ne2k> http://paste.ubuntu.com/654550/
[15:02] <prezident> thinkt510 are you a robot 2 ?
[15:02] <ThinkT510> prezident: nope
[15:02] <damno> sandyd: yeah.. bt none of the sites I used to save buffered vdos from are working :/
[15:03] <ne2k>  btw, the clock on paste.ubuntu.com is completely wrong
[15:03] <Incarus6> prezident, just ubotttu is a bot. please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[15:03] <damno> sandyd: and am a avid chrome user
[15:03] <prezident> thinkt510 ok im reading now
[15:04] <stevethepirate> Incarus6: I got the restricted drivers menu to work
[15:04] <Incarus6> stevethepirate, fixed?
[15:04] <stevethepirate> Incarus6: Which are recommended? Free or proprietary?
[15:04] <stevethepirate> Incarus6: it was an /etc/hosts error, I'd been working on stuff.
[15:04] <Incarus6> stevethepirate, I ALLWAYS recommend the proprietary nvidia driver
[15:05] <cupcakeone> does changing the bootable flag affect the data on the drive?
[15:05] <cupcakeone> im trying to install ubuntu and turn the bootable flag off
[15:05] <cupcakeone> from one of my drives
[15:05] <ne2k> cupcakeone: the bootable flag is in the partition table, which is on the drive, so yes
[15:05] <cupcakeone> shit
[15:06] <cupcakeone> :(
[15:06] <sandyd> damno: I don't think that theirs any flashgot for google chrome. yet. but flashgot still works in firefox. You should see the icon on the bottom-right hand side of firefox when you get to a video
[15:06] <ThinkT510> cupcakeone: why are you turning th bootable flag off?
[15:07] <cupcakeone> i have a couple hard drives, trying to install ubuntu on the second one
[15:08] <cupcakeone> but after install it keeps saying insert bootable media
[15:08] <Troy^> im using the propertiary amd driver for my mobile hd 5870
[15:08] <sandyd> cupcakeone: grub does not deal with bootflags
[15:08] <ThinkT510> cupcakeone: you can only have 1 bootable flag per mbr
[15:08] <sandyd> cupcakeone: it deals with mbr
[15:09] <cupcakeone> so its a bios problem?
[15:09] <dr_willis> or its trying to boot the wrong hd.
[15:09] <dr_willis> or grub is not on the MBR.
[15:09] <sandyd> cupcakeone: no, just reinstall grub manually to HD
[15:10] <cupcakeone> ive installed grub on /dev/sda
[15:10] <ruser> hi, i've got a weird problem on ubuntu i'm trying to start a game server binary but when i execute it, it complains no such file but the file is clearly there!    included direcotry listing, stat listing, uname, and file entry, with strace  http://paste.ubuntu.com/654557/
[15:10] <dr_willis> I dident think grub/linux used the bootable flag.. but ive never really noticed  to be sure.
[15:10] <wols> ruser: it usually means a shared library it needs isn't there
[15:10] <cupcakeone> which is the hard drive i want linux on
[15:10] <ne2k> ruser: "no such file" when the is clearly there usually means a missing shared library
[15:10] <wols> ruser: run "ldd <execuable>"
[15:10] <ThinkT510> cupcakeone: i have a few os's installed and windows is the one with a boot flag
[15:10] <sandyd> cupcakeone: is the bios set to boot from that HD though>
[15:11] <ruser> wols: ne2k:         not a dynamic executable
[15:11] <cupcakeone> yeah boot priority is set to that HD
[15:11] <Troy^> hah i love how easy it was to find my wireless printer on the network and it found a driver by itself, im impressed lol
[15:11] <wols> ruser: file <executable>
[15:11] <ruser> wols: already in pastebin
[15:11] <cupcakeone> its strange
[15:12] <dr_willis> Troy^:  mine did even better.. it found 5 printers and 5 drivers.. for my single printer. :)
[15:12] <wols> cupcakeone: what is the error message?
[15:12] <sandyd> cupcakeone: you chrooted to install right?
[15:12] <ruser> wols: paste.ubuntu.com/654557/
[15:12] <sandyd> cupcakeone: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Methods%20of%20Reinstalling
[15:13] <wols> ruser: line 27:  dynamically linked (uses shared libs),
[15:13] <cupcakeone> im installing from the server edition disk
[15:13] <ruser> wols: and yet ldd reports not a dynamic :)
[15:13] <cupcakeone> "Reboot and select proper boot device"
[15:13] <cupcakeone> thats the exact msg
[15:13] <sandyd> cupcakeone: you can still chroot into the install
[15:14] <sandyd> cupcakeone: you need to chroot into the server install from a livecd, and install grub from there
[15:14] <dr_willis> cupcakeone:  so the pc has how many hd's ? tried booting any of them?
[15:14] <cupcakeone> the pc has 5 hds
[15:14] <NotreDev> i performed sudo apt-get upgrade -y, but ran out of space on my disk. now that i've freed some space, i tried again, but it doesn't seem to believe there are any upgrades available. how can i make apt more aware of what packages are currently installed?
[15:14] <wols> ruser: strings <executable> |grep ".so"
[15:14] <wols> ruser: strings <executable> |grep lib
[15:14] <ravishekhar> hello everyone
[15:15] <wols> NotreDev: apt-get -f install
[15:15] <antlong> hello, whats the pre 11.x desktop window manager package name?
[15:15] <cupcakeone> so its a problem with MBR not grub?
[15:15] <ravishekhar> I m using 11.04 version
[15:15] <ruser> wols:  silly me i forgot to install ia32-libs
[15:15] <wols> antlong: gnome-desktop-environment ?
[15:15] <rww> antlong: the same as it is now, compiz
[15:15] <antlong> rww the actual gui?
[15:15] <wols> antlong: sorry, ubuntu-desktop-environment
[15:16] <antlong> ah, ty wols
[15:16] <NotreDev> wols: did nothing different (0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded)
[15:16] <rww> antlong: "the actual GUI" isn't the same as "window manager". Perhaps you're looking for "gnome-panel" or this:
[15:16] <wols> rww: wasn't it metacity like usual for gnome?
[15:16] <ravishekhar> But no .exe file run on this although I hav installed winehq
[15:16] <rww> !classic
[15:16] <rww> wols: nope, Ubuntu's used compiz for a while
[15:16] <antlong> yeah unity, thanks
[15:16] <wols> NotreDev: apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:16] <rww> wols: well, unless 3D acceleration doesn't work, then it's metacity
[15:17] <cdauth> hey there
[15:17] <adriano> ciao
[15:17] <antlong> unity-2d
[15:17] <adriano> nessuna di bari?
[15:17] <wols> ravishekhar: in a terminal, run "wine <exe file>"
[15:17] <wols> !it
[15:17] <sandyd> cupcakeone: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581099 The Chroot section should be enough to get your bootloader back.
[15:17] <ravishekhar> wols:thanks
[15:17] <anoob> do you have an Intel HD 3000 Graphics? I want to know if it works without extra configuration ... something like plug and play :)
[15:18] <cupcakeone> sandyd: thanks ill try that
[15:18] <cdauth> i need to install a recent version of apache on an old ubuntu 8.04 lts. what is the usual technique for this? look for a deb file on the internet? use a deb file from a newer ubuntu version? compile it myself?
[15:18] <rww> anoob: I have an HD 3450. It works fine.
[15:18] <NotreDev> well now i have (0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded)
[15:18] <wols> cdauth: backport. you get the _sources_ of the package you want to backport from a newer ubuntu version and build a package from that and install it via dpkg -i
[15:19] <wols> cdauth: using a newer package will simply destroy your 8.04 LTS
[15:19] <wols> cdauth: but in this case I strongly suggest an upgrade to 10.04 at least
[15:19] <ruser> wols: ne2k thanks guys,  the problem was i forgot to install ia32 libs
[15:19] <sandyd> cdauth: you will have to compile it yourself if there are no newer packages on the net
[15:20] <anoob> rww, what's fine? do you have to do any manual work to get it working?
[15:20] <rww> anoob: no
[15:20] <Troy^> empathy keeps giving me network errors hmm
[15:20] <anoob> can you play games with wine rww? which games?
[15:20] <ruser> cdauth: you could try palying around with pinning
[15:20] <dr_willis> anoob:  a great many games work with wine.  see the wine app database.
[15:20] <rww> anoob: The only 3D accelerated game I play is Minecraft. It works with the default driver, and works better with fglrx.
[15:20] <cdauth> okay, that’s enough information to start. thanks everyone ;-)
[15:21] <wols> ruser: no he could not. pinning is a great way to kill the install
[15:21] <wols> cdauth: please ignore ruser
[15:21] <delinquentme> how to run a continuous ping command .. every 5 second ?
[15:21] <dr_willis> delinquentme:  pint has options for that..
[15:21] <ruser> wols: please explain?
[15:21] <dr_willis> delinquentme:  or write a little script.
[15:21] <anoob> which driver is the default rww?
[15:22] <rww> anoob: it's called "radeon"
[15:22] <wols> ruser: pinning is 99% of the time a very very bad idea. and you never want to mix packages from different versions, which is what pinning would do in this case
[15:22] <anoob> rww, thank you very much
[15:22] <wols> delinquentme: man ping. look at the "-c" option
[15:22] <oCean> delinquentme: ping -c -i 5
[15:23] <delinquentme> yeah i was doing it right ... loosk like AWS blocks pings .. meh!
[15:23] <ruser> wols: fair enough. however the way i see it, if the package is super small with minimal dependencies, pinning works ok, as long as you are agnostic of what you are doing
[15:23] <wols> ruser: "agnostic of what you are doing" == "if you don't care what you are doing" fyi
[15:23] <anoob> rww, isn't radeon about ati cards?
[15:24] <oCean> delinquentme: actually   ping -c 20 -i 5  will give a sequence of 20 pings, with interval of 5 seconds
[15:24] <oCean> delinquentme: oh, didn't see your last post, nvm
[15:24] <wols> ruser: and apache is not small. a script which is available for architecture "all" is fine with pinning usually. a binary, especially like apache, is not
[15:24] <rww> anoob: oh, crap, you said Intel. Sorry, I read HD 3xxx and assumed ATI. Is Intel using that versioning now too?
[15:24] <ikonia> rww: only for sound
[15:24] <rww> :|
[15:24] <wols> ikonia: huh?
[15:24] <ruser> wols: point taken on apache.
[15:25] <ikonia> wols: are there now intel video cards with HD as the reference
[15:25] <ruser> wols: anyhow thanks for the troubleshooting :)
[15:25] <wols> ikonia: yes. since the GMA4500 HD
[15:25] <ikonia> ahhh that's not HD* that's *HD
[15:25] <wols> which was around 3 years ago. newer cards are named GMA HD for first gen core i, and HD200 HD 3000 for 2nd gen core i
[15:26] <wols> *HD 2000
[15:26] <ikonia> I still reference the GMA
[15:26] <wols> not in the latest ones. there it's called simply HD 3000
[15:26] <cba123> I've been trying different file index searchers, but tracker, beagle and google desktop don't seem to search everything I have.  Are there any alternatives?
[15:27] <anoob> no problem
[15:27] <ikonia> wols: certainly not seen them
[15:27] <anoob> no problem rww
[15:28] <wols> ikonia: intel marketing dept is very sorry to hear that. all those billions spent in vain :(
[15:28] <ikonia> wols: I am a hard sell
[15:29] <wols> that's why they packaged it into the cpu: so you have to buy it if you buy a cpu, no matter what. sly buggers these intel guys
[15:29] <ravishekhar> wols:I have installed oxforddictionary.exe using wine but it doesn't work properly.the same software run smoothly in windows.wat sud i do??
[15:30] <oCean> ravishekhar: #winehq for application help with wine
[15:30] <wols> ravishekhar: appdb.winehq.org  check if it runs properly in wine at all. and not every windows program does. what you can do is fix wine yourself by making it better
[15:30] <ravishekhar> wols:tanx
[15:30] <ravishekhar> ocean:tanx
[15:31] <ThinkT510> ravishekhar: if you want windows programs running flawlessly use a windows vm in virtualbox (with the exception of 3d apps)
[15:32] <ravishekhar> Think...:ok
[15:32] <ThinkT510> ravishekhar: most times though it is better to look for native alternatives
[15:35] <ravishekhar> when I install a new package,after installation a window opens ,showing operation failed. Wat is d prblm?
[15:35] <wols> ravishekhar: apt-get install <package>    then paste us the output
[15:35] <ravishekhar> wols:ok
[15:40] <p01son> try apt-get clean
[15:45] <krzysz00> Does anyone know how to do a permission-preserving backup to an ntfs filesystem with fsync?
[15:45] <krzysz00> *rsync
[15:45] <adubz> i accidently created a symbolic link to an existing directory /var/www/  how do i remove htis symbolic link
[15:45] <fabiobik> hi guys
[15:45] <ThinkT510> !rsync | krzysz00
[15:45] <fabiobik> can please test this page if works? http://gatinhamolhadinha.pt.vu/  here gives me an 404 error ...
[15:46] <fabiobik> im at my ubuntu server
[15:46] <tyler_d> what happened to Xorg's -scanpci command? anyone know where it is please?
[15:46] <dr_willis> theres an works here fabiobik
[15:47] <Infernet> work
[15:47] <fabiobik> ok
[15:47] <fabiobik> mayble its the cache
[15:47] <fabiobik> here
[15:47] <fabiobik> thanks
[15:47] <Infernet> nice index
[15:49] <b0ba> ubottu: GRUB2 doesn't detect software raid as md0. my server is bricked
[15:49] <wrtiii> Where's the best place to make a forum post for generic linux problems?
[15:50] <Pici> wrtiii: ##linux
[15:50] <tyler_d> linux.org
[15:50] <tyler_d> Pici: forum
[15:50] <Pici> tyler_d: Ask in ##linux then, as it clearly isn't on-topic for #ubuntu
[15:50] <AndreiT> hello
[15:51] <wols> tyler_d: what do you need this command for?
[15:51] <AndreiT> I have a file that is supposed to fix the perl-tk package from cpan, but it is a dpatch, how do i execute this?
[15:52] <b0ba> what channel is the best for grub2 questions ?
[15:52] <tyler_d> wols: trying to configure the xorg.conf with the BusID - found hte card using lspci | less however I don't know the correct formatting, ie. PCI:xxxx:xx:xx
[15:53] <tyler_d> wols: and supposedly Xorg -scanpci works for this
[15:53] <wols> tyler_d: lspci shows it to you too. and why do you need the BusID? do you have more than one card?
[15:53] <wols> why do you need a xorg.conf in the first place?
[15:54] <tyler_d> wols: yes, and no it gives it in formatting such as: 01:00.0 xorg expects formatting such as PCI:0000:00:00 does it not?
[15:54] <tyler_d> wols: p.s. the above 01:00.0 is directly from mine
[15:55] <wols> tyler_d: why do you need the bus id?
[15:58] <faint545> is there like a social ubuntu channel?
[15:58] <faint545> instead of a support channel?
[15:59] <hilikus> Can't this be both?
[15:59] <faint545> well i figured since it says it a support channel.
[15:59] <ThinkT510> !ot | faint545
[15:59] <hilikus> well there you have it
[16:01] <juemo> Hi pals !  My server do not respond to ARP requests.  Anyone got an idea ?
[16:01] <ikonia> juemo: it's not on the network then
[16:02] <juemo> ikonia: this is a LAN, connected by my hand
[16:02] <ikonia> juemo: so ?
[16:03] <ne2k> juemo: what makes you say that it doesn't respond to ARP requests?
[16:03] <juemo> ikonia: I checked with wireshark, sniffed all his interfaces, from itself and from other computers on the network
[16:04] <ne2k> juemo: it is possible to turn off ARP but unless you've done that deliberately it's extremely unlikely
[16:05] <ikonia> just do an arp -a on a device it's connected to
[16:05] <juemo> ne2k: I check with wireshark and I am pretty sure I haven't turned it off
[16:05] <girl> Hi, I have an Intel Gma 950  Graphic Card. My overall performance in natty seems worse than what it was in maverick. I tried xorg-edgers but there was no improvement . Any ideas?
[16:05] <ikonia> juemo: wireshark normally shows tcp
[16:06] <ikonia> juemo: just do an arp -a on something connected to it
[16:06] <ne2k> juemo: so, on the server, you see "ARP who has" broadcasts coming in for an IP that is assigned to the server on the interface that they are coming in on, but no reply going out?
[16:06] <ne2k> juemo: can you paste "ip addr" from the server?
[16:06] <ikonia> arp -a will show the arp
[16:07] <ne2k> ikonia: I think we're slightly more advanced than that
[16:07] <ikonia> why ?
[16:07] <ikonia> you don't need to be
[16:07] <girl> Can someone help me?
[16:07] <juemo>  ne2k: routeur ARPs with right ip, serveur nerver respond
[16:07] <ne2k> girl: just ask your question
[16:07] <sktn07> in 10.4 how to zoom desktop?
[16:07] <girl>  Hi, I have an Intel Gma 950  Graphic Card. My overall performance in natty seems worse than what it was in maverick. I tried xorg-edgers but there was no improvement . Any ideas?
[16:08] <ne2k> juemo: you see the arp who has going out of the router, right? do you see the arp who has coming in on the server?
[16:08] <juemo> arp -a, considering server's ip :? (192.168.1.10) à <incomplet> sur eth1
[16:08] <ne2k> juemo: what are you running that command on? a client? the router?
[16:08] <juemo> ne2k: yes, i sniffed the interfaces from the routeur and saw the requests
[16:08] <juemo> ne2k: a computer on the network
[16:09] <ne2k> juemo: but how abotu on the server? did you sniff on the server and see the arp who has coming in?
[16:09] <juemo> ne2k: yes,
[16:09] <ne2k> juemo: is the computer on the same subnet as the server and router? if so, why would it be going near the router?
[16:09] <girl> anyone?
[16:10] <sktn07> in 10.4 how to zoom desktop?
[16:10] <sktn07> windows + scroll not working
[16:11] <sktn07> please help
[16:11] <ne2k> sktn07: install compizconfig-settings-manager and then look in there to set up your keybindings
[16:11] <juemo> ne2k: this is a class c network.
[16:11] <ne2k> juemo: oh, not that again
[16:11] <wrtiii> What is the default root password on a ubuntu install
[16:11] <girl> sktn07: elaborate on that
[16:11] <juemo> ne2k: what do you mean ?
[16:11] <rww> !root | wrtiii
[16:12] <girl> wrtiii: See ubottu
[16:12] <sktn07> ne2k : commands to install that?
[16:12] <hilikus> girl:  what about your performance has changed since your upgrade?
[16:12] <girl> wrtiii: You can set a root password with "sudo su" then "passwd" in terminal
[16:12] <ne2k> sktn07: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager then look in system->preferences; accessibiliyt->zoom desktop
[16:13] <rww> !noroot | girl
[16:13] <wrtiii> that bs
[16:13] <robin> #openra
[16:13] <girl> hilikus: Yes using intel arkendale gma 950
[16:13] <wrtiii> thanks girl
[16:13] <ne2k> sktn07: there is "enhanced zoom desktop" too which is better, it hink
[16:13] <girl> wrtiii: No prblem
[16:14] <rww> wrtiii: setting a root password is both pointless and not supported by this channel. If you do it, please do not ask for help with it here.
[16:14] <reaper> whats the point of a root password?
[16:14] <sktn07> ne2k : terminalshows: could not find that package
[16:14] <ne2k> reaper: to be able to log in as root
[16:14] <natty-user> @wrtiii: i've got the same sort of ubuntu installation problem on a pc, still haven't managed to fix it.
[16:14] <Algorith> protection obviously...
[16:14] <maco> reaper: to allow the root user to login. but if you do that, then all your apps are running as root, making you nicely ownable
[16:14] <rww> ne2k: There is no point in doing that.
[16:14] <wrtiii> lol
[16:15] <wrtiii> why is everyone so afraid of root?
[16:15] <reaper> ahh so kind of like the admin?
[16:15] <ne2k> sktn07: do you have universe enabled?
[16:15] <girl> hilikus:Graphics performace in OK but slower than natty and some KDE effects make it really slow, they worked fine on maverick
[16:15] <hilikus> root = admin
[16:15] <juemo> This is a pretty simple class c network: router, laptop, server.  dhcp request from the server to the routeur are ok, but all other never pass through the mac resolution
[16:15] <reaper> got cha
[16:16] <maco> wrtiii: because running as admin all the time is how win95 got to be a hotbed of malware
[16:16] <rww> and 98, and ME, and XP...
[16:16] <sktn07> ne2k : probably not...how to check
[16:16] <ne2k> rww: do not tar XP with the same brush as ME!
[16:16] <reaper> I could see it being useful if you were the only 1 that uses the machine and wasnt online much
[16:16] <ne2k> rww: XP was a solid OS, particularly once it reached SP2, because it was NT-based. 95/98/ME were still DOS-based
[16:16] <hilikus> is this a linux channel or what?  How can people not know what root is?  :S
[16:16] <rww> ne2k: They share the issue of being easier to exploit if you're running as an administrative user, which they use by default.
[16:17] <wrtiii> how the hell are you supposed to efficiently preform administrative tasks without using root
[16:17] <Algorith> more like only if it never goes online and you always know exactly what you're doing
[16:17] <ne2k> hilikus: no, it's not a linux channel, it's a ubuntu channel.
[16:17] <rww> wrtiii: sudo, as you've been told
[16:17] <reaper> loltrue
[16:17] <hilikus> lol
[16:17] <reaper> er true
[16:17] <ne2k> rww: I guess XP home did, yes, I agree
[16:17] <rww> ne2k: true
[16:17] <wrtiii> I said efficiently rww
[16:17] <rww> wrtiii: and I said sudo
[16:17] <wrtiii> lol
[16:18] <qin> wrtiii: sudo -i, or extend sudo time
[16:18] <wrtiii> you've obviously never been getting shot @ while trying to work on a system, lol
[16:18] <hilikus> I just installed ubuntu on my netbook... mostly run openSuSE
[16:18] <Algorith> hopefully few people have
[16:18] <ne2k> juemo: can you try connecting computer directly to server with a crossover cable and see if ARP works then? (you'll need to set static addresses)
[16:19] <ne2k> juemo: this will narrow it does to any APs or switches as the source of the problem
[16:19] <ne2k> juemo: is the laptop connected to the network with wireless? how is the AP configured? could it have any restrictions on it?
[16:24] <xt3mp0r> which term from /proc/meminfo shows the actual free RAM? -/+ buffers/cache
[16:25] <daan4711> hi
[16:26] <Blackhold> hi, someone could sayme where I could find repos for ubuntu 9.04?
[16:26] <roasted> Is there a quick way to add 60 new users to Ubuntu?
[16:27] <roasted> I just need 60 test users. user1, user2 user, 3etc.
[16:27] <ikonia> roasted: script
[16:27] <roasted> ikonia, would it be possible to do the password thing in a script?
[16:27] <hilikus> xt3mp0r: memfree
[16:27] <ikonia> roasted: yup
[16:27] <roasted> ikonia, hm. can you give me an example of how this would work?
[16:27] <reaper> so in natty, how do I adjust things like time it takes for the screen saver and stuff?
[16:27] <roasted> ikonia, just 60 lines with sudo useradd user1 etc?
[16:28] <ikonia> roasted: while loop, 1 - 60 useradd user$ that sort of thing
[16:28] <roasted> ikonia, okay... I'm a little rusty in this area. I remember using that sort of command before...
[16:30] <joao> oaskeoas
[16:30] <xt3mp0r> hilikus: It doesn't show the actual free RAM. http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ you need to read this if you haven't yet.
[16:31] <plustax> Can someone help me out? I am trying to put win 7 back on my laptop. Right now I have just Ubuntu on it taking up the full disc but I dont know how to switch back
[16:32] <ikonia> plustax: just install windows over the top
[16:32] <ikonia> plustax: the guys in ##windows can help you with that
[16:32] <redmarv> hi all
[16:32] <plustax> ikonia thats it?
[16:32] <wols> plustax: boot from a live cd and resize your ubuntu partition so you make room for windows. then boot a windows CD and install it to that free space. last, reinstall grub
[16:32] <roasted> plustax, you want JUST windows?
[16:32] <roasted> plustax, no ubuntu?
[16:32] <redmarv> anyone have used ocrad or tesseract or gocr?
[16:32] <plustax> wols I want JUST windows
[16:32] <plustax> right
[16:32] <wols> plustax: then as ikonia said
[16:32] <roasted> plustax, yep, that's all you do
[16:33] <mang0> plustax: in that case just do a fresh windows install
[16:33] <roasted> plustax, just put windows CD in, format drive, install windows, good to go :)
[16:33] <mang0> if you don't want ubuntu
[16:33] <plustax> okay so its just a regular install then.
[16:33] <mang0> yeah
[16:33] <roasted> plustax, absolutely
[16:33] <mang0> plustax: you will lose all your data on your ubuntu.
[16:33] <mang0> be warned.
[16:33] <sktn07> in appearance preference > visual effect screen is not ok....see http://imagebin.org/165471
[16:33] <plustax> That's fine, I just backed everything up.
[16:33] <mang0> In that case go go go!
[16:33] <roasted> plustax, you typically format a drive when you install an operating system. formatting is wiping and preparing the drive. This thereby deletes ubuntu in the process.
[16:33] <mang0> :)
[16:33] <redmarv> plustax: or just find for a Fix MBR on your windows
[16:33] <plustax> No worries, I am still running Ubuntu on my desktop!
[16:33] <mang0> oh
[16:33] <mang0> good
[16:33] <mang0> :D
[16:33] <sktn07> please help with proper direction
[16:33] <roasted> redmarv, he doesn't have windows installed at all
[16:34] <roasted> redmarv, he just wants to ditch ubuntu entirely and install windows back
[16:34] <redmarv> ah, so, install windows :P
[16:34] <redmarv> however
[16:34] <roasted> :)
[16:34] <plustax> Well thanks guys.
[16:34] <roasted> plustax, we'll miss you! :P
[16:34] <redmarv> Someone knows ocrad or similar software?
[16:34] <plustax> So I dont have to reinstall some bootloader or something?
[16:34] <ikonia> plustax: no
[16:34] <mang0> plustax: no
[16:34] <roasted> plustax, no, installing Windows takes care of installing the Windows boot loader.
[16:34] <plustax> I dont know how to boot to the windows cd
[16:34] <mang0> Only if you're having ubuntu as well
[16:34] <roasted> plustax, do you have a dell?
[16:34] <wols> plustax: windows does this by default on its own
[16:34] <mang0> plustax: put the cd in. reboot
[16:34] <plustax> oh okay
[16:34] <plustax> cool
[16:34] <mang0> lol
[16:34] <reaper> is there a way to set lik screen saver time and stuff?
[16:34] <sktn07> i am using 10.4 version....in notebook atom processor
[16:34] <plustax> well Ill see you in a few!
[16:35] <roasted> plustax, good luck
[16:35] <mang0> gl
[16:35] <mang0> :)
[16:35] <sktn07> please  help
[16:35] <redmarv> guys? have you used ocrad or gocr or tesseract on ubuntu?
[16:35] <redmarv> I need advice...
[16:35] <redmarv> uhm I mean help
[16:35] <wols> redmarv: ask your real question
[16:36] <mang0> Right guys, I'm setting up a blog with blogger. I've found a theme that I like, but I need to edit it. I know basic HTML, but I'd quite like to edit it graphically as well as the raw code. Is there a program that I can edit it with? Like, with clicking and dragging, and also with re-writing code....
[16:36] <mang0> (for ubuntu, of course)
[16:36] <tyler_d> if anyone would please help me with a PCI bus address here are the details: http://paste.ubuntu.com/654610/
[16:36] <wols> tyler_d: I'm still waiting for an answer btw
[16:37] <redmarv> so, if I use one of those software with an image created with gimp (with some numbers) they recognize it very well, finding the right chars in it, but i I use an image from a cam (mobile phone camera) it doens't work...
[16:37] <tyler_d> wols: what was the question again please
[16:38] <wols> tyler_d: nvm. what drivers do you intend to use?
[16:38] <tyler_d> wols: I would like to use the proprietary nvidia drivers
[16:38] <wols> tyler_d: with optimus?
[16:39] <tyler_d> wols: sorry, what is optimus?
[16:39] <wols> tyler_d: if you use the proprietary nvidia drivers, run nvidia-xconfig (IIRC) and you're done
[16:39] <wols> tyler_d:no need for Bus ID
[16:39] <Eighteens> i just updated my ubuntu 10.04 lucid, and after reboot, my sound icon is muted, and WONT un-mute, and it shows no hardware installed, can somone help me
[16:40] <redmarv> wols: that was my real question :P
[16:40] <wols> redmarv: no it was not
[16:40] <tyler_d> wols: unfortunately no, as xorg grabs the first pci bus it finds the nvidia in this laptop is on a lower pci bus and therefor needs to be hard-coded
[16:40] <tyler_d> wols: I have attempted that, and many variations of that
[16:40] <wols> tyler_d: you put in "nvidia" into your xorg.conf and it will grab that
[16:41] <wols> tyler_d: and your Xorg.0.log clearly shows how the busid needs to look
[16:41] <tyler_d> wols: no it does not. maybe it is supposed to..
[16:41] <redmarv> wols: ehm,  wanted to know if there is a reason for this. Pics from camera don't work with gocr ocrad or similar software/
[16:41] <shinkamui> how do I start the installer in text mode on 10.10 and above
[16:41] <ikonia> shinkamui: you use the alternative CD for that
[16:41] <tyler_d> wols: that is how it was set the last time I booted, the star beside the bus from Xorg.0.log indicates the card it tried to load
[16:42] <wols> redmarv: "real question" was in response to "anyone use X" you asked. that is never the real question but a waste of time of others
[16:42] <shinkamui> ikonia, this isn't a standard ubuntu disk, whats the command line command tos tart the text installer normally
[16:42] <ikonia> shinkamui: sorry, we don't support non-standard ubuntu installers
[16:42] <wols> tyler_d: can you paste your xorg.conf and your Xorg.0.log output for it. I think you rather have a mux problem, since you have an Optimus enabled laptop
[16:42] <BluesKaj> shinkamui, alternate?
[16:43] <tyler_d> wols: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11098771#post11098771
[16:43] <tyler_d> wols: ty for your help btw
[16:43] <redmarv> wols: man I'm not using X, I'm working remote via ssh if you want to know, so, I asked only if anyone knows if there are some particular condition to have those software working well with pics from a camera. just this
[16:44] <redmarv> ah
[16:44] <pingveno> Is there any lovely, wonderful place to get python2.7 packages for Ubuntu versions 10.04 and 10.10?
[16:44] <wols> tyler_d: that's not what I asked for at all and I don't troubleshoot nvidia.run installers which break things all the time
[16:44] <redmarv> X was not x.org... btw I wrote down the real one later...
[16:44] <ikonia> pingveno: no
[16:45] <tyler_d> wols: ok, I will repost them to pastebin
[16:45] <pingveno> No extra backports area that someone has set up?
[16:45] <pingveno> set up Python 2.7*
[16:46] <tyler_d> wols: http://paste.ubuntu.com/654616/
[16:47] <Eighteens> what would cause ubuntu to not see my sound card after a year of having it working, after update, and reboot, no sound anymore
[16:47] <tyler_d> wols: to clarify as well, the only way I could get an xorg.conf file was to use the nvidia-xorg command, hence the comment at the top of xorg.conf
[16:48] <wols> tyler_d: that is the proper command for nvidia proprietary drivers
[16:48] <tyler_d> wols: ok.
[16:48] <Spikestuff> Is there a way to install Fedora Linux using Ubuntu, possibly by using apt-get or some other method?
[16:48] <ikonia> shinkamui: no
[16:49] <Troy^> Spikestuff: no, you need to install fedora similiar to the way you did ubuntu
[16:49] <ikonia> Spikestuff: no
[16:49] <TheTongue> Qemu / Virtual Box
[16:49] <wols> tyler_d: cat /sys/http://paste.ubuntu.com/654616/
[16:49] <ikonia> TheTongue: read what he asked
[16:49] <wols> tyler_d: cat /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch
[16:50] <Troy^> hmm i have 12,000 songs and banshee doesnt seem to really like it
[16:50] <Troy^> i cant seem to play songs in it because its always trying to download album cover art
[16:50] <Spikestuff> Actually ikonia, TheTongue is correct... it is possible to use VirtualBox and qemu to create a virtual image from Ubuntu and via a Live CD to bypass certain things that the Live CD requires, such as a RAM requirement...
[16:50] <ikonia> Spikestuff: sorry, no it's not
[16:50] <Spikestuff> ikonia: http://dcr226.co.uk/blog/?p=87
[16:50] <ikonia> Spikestuff: that is not installing fedora using ubuntu, that is using a virtual machine
[16:51] <Spikestuff> It's through Ubuntu if you're running the VM on Ubuntu. :>
[16:51] <Troy^> doh!
[16:51] <ikonia> Spikestuff: no, it's not
[16:51] <ikonia> Spikestuff: hence why you asked like using "apt-get" the answer is "no"
[16:51] <ikonia> Spikestuff: if you question is can you install Fedora in blank virtual machine, yes, you can
[16:51] <Spikestuff> I am off that subject now, I am just telling you that TheTongue is correct. :)
[16:52] <TheTongue> Thanks you Spikestuff :) , but I didn't read any other lines above what he said
[16:52] <ikonia> Spikestuff: and I'm telling you he's not, or your question was incorrect
[16:52] <Troy^> any suggestions for mp3 player? banshee doesnt like my huge library
[16:52] <Spikestuff> How can a question be incorrect? :o
[16:52] <ronqbc> i've weird behivour with ubuntu. the desktop is often appears and some windows get opened. then the window control is getting away. i don't like the classic system at all. what can i do? switch to win 7?
[16:52] <TheTongue> then use a chroot jail, but thats not 100% safe
[16:52] <ikonia> Spikestuff: you asked can you install fedora using ubuntu - no you cannot, ubuntu is a self contained operating system
[16:53] <wols> ikonia: isn't there something like debootstrap for fedora?
[16:53] <tyler_d> wols: unsure which file you would like.
[16:53] <ikonia> wols: totally, but it won't work with version 15
[16:53] <tyler_d> wols: acer-wmi  bdi  bluetooth  dri  extfrag  gpio  ips  kprobes  mce  pktcdvd  regulator  sched_features  tracing  usb  wakeup_sources  x86
[16:53] <wols> tyler_d: there is no file. there is some output, hopefully
[16:53] <mang0> How do I remove a PPA?
[16:53] <Tbruff13> can someone help me with a totem error i am just warning i am using debian
[16:53] <friendlyfire> can someone help me figure out how to mount an external drive to ubuntu 10.04 i am new to ubuntu and cannot figure it out. I am guessing it's not just plug and play and it doesn't just show up under "computer"
[16:54] <wols>  /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch  is a single file. if there, I want its content
[16:54] <wols> friendlyfire: it should be
[16:54] <vlt> friendlyfire: Usually it should.
[16:54] <friendlyfire> it should just show up?
[16:54] <Troy^> hmm my subwoofer on my asus g73jh laptop is not working
[16:54] <vlt> friendlyfire: Yes. Is it USB?
[16:54] <friendlyfire> i have one of those adapters that allows you to hook up an internal drive to a usb port
[16:54] <friendlyfire> but it doesn't just show up
[16:55] <TheTongue> whats a PPA ?
[16:55] <tyler_d> wols: stat: cannot stat `/sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch': No such file or directory
[16:55] <Troy^> anyone want to help and get my built-in subwoofer on my asus g73jh laptop to work? or know where i could start
[16:55] <friendlyfire> it is usb
[16:55] <vlt> friendlyfire: Can you open a terminal and type "lsusb" to list the devices recognised?
[16:55] <Autodidactite> Okay how go I force quit a GUI app in 11.04
[16:55] <Autodidactite> ?
[16:55] <Tbruff13> the error happens when ever i try to use the youtube plugin in totem i get the error gstreamer general library error
[16:55] <shishir> how to make pendrive bootable ?
[16:55] <HeatHawk[R5]> ubuntu on usb3 seems to fuck up uuid stuff so it wont boot, whats the solution for that? hard code the root= to a device id?
[16:55] <friendlyfire> ok i typed lsusb
[16:56] <vlt> shishir: By installing GRUB on it, for example.
[16:56] <friendlyfire> i see my logitech wireless thing for my mouse
[16:56] <vlt> friendlyfire: Is your USB/HD adapter listed?
[16:56] <friendlyfire> i don't see it
[16:56] <friendlyfire> should it say "western digital"
[16:56] <Tbruff13> this is the technical error i get swf @ 0x24ba590] Compressed SWF format not supported
[16:56] <Tbruff13> ** Message: Error: GStreamer encountered a general supporting library error.
[16:56] <Tbruff13> gstffmpegdemux.c(1243): gst_ffmpegdemux_open (): /GstPlayBin2:play/GstURIDecodeBin:uridecodebin0/GstDecodeBin2:decodebin20/ffdemux_swf:ffdemux_swf0:
[16:56] <Tbruff13> Input/output error
[16:56] <hilikus> Autodidactite:  in terminal type "top".. you should see the acting up program... get the PID and then type kill *PID*
[16:56] <vlt> friendlyfire: Depends on the device.
[16:57] <friendlyfire> well i only have 4 usb ports
[16:57] <shishir> vlt i want to install one more OS (windows)thats why i want to make it bootable please tell me the whole process
[16:57] <vlt> friendlyfire: type "dmesg" please to see a list of system messages from the kernel.
[16:57] <friendlyfire> i have linux foundation  2.0 root hub
[16:57] <vlt> friendlyfire: Then have a look at the last 20 lines or so
[16:58] <vlt> friendlyfire: Does something happen with "usb", "ehci", "ohci" or similar?
[16:58] <friendlyfire> it says attached scsi disk
[16:58] <vlt> friendlyfire: Type "blkid" to list all block devices with file systems on it.
[16:58] <tyler_d> wols: did I miss something there?
[16:59] <friendlyfire> it says usb-storage: device found at 3
[16:59] <friendlyfire> i typed blkid
[16:59] <shishir>  i want to install one more OS (windows)thats why i want to make pemdrive bootable please tell me the whole process
[16:59] <vlt> shishir: Where do you want to install anothe OS?
[16:59] <vlt> !repeat | shishir
[17:00] <Eighteens> i get a message cant find alsamixer, this was after todays update, no sound, thanks ubuntu... gota love it
[17:00] <shishir> vlt in my computer
[17:00] <shishir> vlt i want to operating systems
[17:00] <vlt> shishir: So, why do you think you need a bootable USB drive then?
[17:01] <shishir> vlt i dont have cd/dvd rom
[17:01] <wols> tyler_d:sudo mount -t debugfs none /sys/kernel/debug/   then check for the switch file again please
[17:01] <vlt> shishir: Can you please elaborate?
[17:01] <tyler_d> wols: mount: none already mounted or /sys/kernel/debug/ busy
[17:01] <tyler_d> mount: according to mtab, none is already mounted on /sys/kernel/debug
[17:02] <antlong> how do you switch from the newer unity to the classic one?
[17:02] <antlong> im over vnc, so i cant do it from the login screen
[17:02] <wols> tyler_d: then it should be there :(
[17:02] <dr3mro> gnome 3 vs unity memory usage who have any idea ??
[17:02] <shishir> vlt i dont have cd rom drive thats why i can't install it with CD/DVD therefore i want to install through USB
[17:02] <dr3mro> which is lighter unity or gnome 3
[17:02] <Mark[Ping]> ok can someone help me please.
[17:03] <vlt> shishir: I'm not sure whether another OS will let itself install from a USB drive.
[17:03] <tyler_d> wols: soooo....
[17:03] <Mark[Ping]> Linux fails so badly... Why wont it let me click allow on adobe flash player settings
[17:03] <lulu> luisal
[17:04] <wols> tyler_d: I have a similar setup like yours: internal intel graphics and a amd 3470m. and that vgaswitcheroo file decides which ones ir run when loading X
[17:04] <shishir> vlt then how i can install new OS please tell me
[17:04] <lulu> hello everyone
[17:04] <lulu> need some help
[17:04] <lulu> got some probs with the wifi
[17:04] <tyler_d> wols: CONFIG_VGA_SWITCHEROO=y
[17:04] <wols> tyler_d: can you paste the output of ls /sys/kernel/debug and the output of cat /etc/fstab  please?
[17:05] <hilikus> shishir, maybe this will help; http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[17:05] <wols> tyler_d: that's a kernel parameter. needed for the debug file above to work but there is more needed :)
[17:06] <tyler_d> wols: pretty sure if the dir doesn't exist you have to touch it no?
[17:06] <ronqbc> i've weird behivour with ubuntu. the desktop is often appears and some windows get opened. then the window control is getting away. i don't like the classic system at all. what can i do? switch to win 7?
[17:06] <wols> tyler_d: no
[17:06] <wols> tyler_d: kinda pointless to touch stuff in /sys... it's not a real filesystem you know
[17:07] <Mark[Ping]> wols. Linux fails so badly... Why wont it let me click allow on adobe flash player settings
[17:07] <vlt> shishir: For installing another OS you need to make some room for it. You can use tools like cfdisk, parted or gparted to resize your current and create new partitions for a new OS. Then follow the install manual of your OS.
[17:07] <tyler_d> wols: http://paste.ubuntu.com/654624/
[17:07] <hilikus> shishir you can always go the VM route....
[17:07] <pingveno> Mark[Ping]: synaptic is your friend
[17:07] <wols> Mark[Ping]: ask adobe. it's their POS software
[17:07] <tyler_d> wols: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[17:07] <MrNthDegree> Mark[Ping], that isn't the fault of Linux, Flash sucks in general
[17:08] <shishir> vlt i have available room for new OS
[17:08] <Mark[Ping]> Well for some odd reason... Adobe always lets me click allow in any other os.
[17:08] <Mark[Ping]> Windows, OSX.
[17:08] <Mark[Ping]> But when i try ubuntu all i get is erros and problems.
[17:08] <Mark[Ping]> errors*
[17:08] <Timvde> gnome-power-manager is using 102MB RAM atm. I guess it's not meant to do that? (Ubuntu 10.10)
[17:09] <wols> tyler_d: have you tried what's described on that page?
[17:09] <tyler_d> wols: not yet, your helping me and I didn't want to throw a wrench in it. however thought it note-worthy and possibly worth a try
[17:09] <wols> tyler_d:also, google for your laptop model and "Linux"
[17:09] <wols> tyler_d: it is worth a try and you should try it
[17:10] <tyler_d> wols: probably comes back with explicit lang in google
[17:10] <tyler_d> wols: :p
[17:10] <wols> tyler_d: but /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch is not there  as you said
[17:10] <wols> you have enabled KMS?
[17:10] <wols> tyler_d: very much possible. you have an acer after all... :P
[17:11] <wols> tyler_d: btw, why do you want the nvidia drivers?
[17:11] <tyler_d> wols: wouldn't surprise me; work just got it for me **shrugs** -- I don't really care what driver is specified, the important thing to me is that its utilizing the right video card, and its not
[17:12] <chocolates> how do i get steam to work on 10.10?
[17:12] <wols> tyler_d: I suggest you set it to "discrete" in BIOS and check the Xorg.0.log. you can always install irssi in text mode and come here to get help debugging the problem too
[17:13] <wols> tyler_d: what do you need the nvidia card for? the intel is fine for most stuff, no? no 3D but a lot less battery usage
[17:13] <tyler_d> wols: I will give that another try, I did try it before with poor results however. and no x-loading either
[17:13] <wols> chocolates: install wine, run it in wine.
[17:13] <reaper> steam.. did't even think thatwas possible
[17:13] <wols> tyler_d: it doesn't matter if X loads then. just save you Xorg.0.log when it doens#t run so we can look at it :)
[17:13] <tyler_d> wols: as of right now even the default won't load with unity :( and it did before all this garbage started
[17:14] <wols> tyler_d: you installed nvidia proprietary drivers therefore killing your mesa. and you installed it via nvidia.com drivers which is stupid to do
[17:15] <tyler_d> wols: not overtly impressed at this point. you would think an app that builds from source would have its bits and bobs together
[17:15] <chocolates> Does anybody know how to get steam working on ubuntu?
[17:16] <hilikus> chocolates...like previously said, use wine... it works perfectly.
[17:16] <chocolates> hilikus: It says connecting to (myaccounthere)... And then nothing happens
[17:16] <chocolates> ._.
[17:17] <tyler_d> wols: so no the question is how do I blow away the .run garbage
[17:17] <Troy^> how does one change the read only setting of a conf file (/etc/pulse/daemon.conf
[17:18] <dr3mro> is there any other kernel derived from linux kernel that can be used instead of the generic kernel of ubuntu to boost more speed ???
[17:18] <chocolates> What is the wine channel???
[17:19] <hilikus> check the wine db website, they have lots of info on troubleshooting, most likely your issue is already listed and resolved.
[17:19] <Troy^> i need to help to edit a config file it is read only i even used this command but it seems like im still not able to edit it sudo chmod u+w /etc/pulse/daemon.conf
[17:20] <chocolates> hilikus: Do you know the name of the IRC channel? :x
[17:20] <__sorin__> Hi. What's the terminal sequence for the META key similar to ^[ for ESCAPE?
[17:20] <hilikus> sorry, no I don't
[17:20] <reaper> you could use mint for more speed
[17:20] <tyler_d> __sorin__: ctrl-d?
[17:20] <reaper> nvm dumb answer lol
[17:20] <tyler_d> __sorin__: or in ssh its ~
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: gksudo gedit /etc/pulse/daemon.conf
[17:21] <newb> Is there a way to strenthen the reciever of the wifi in ubuntu?
[17:21] <lulu> sorry again
[17:21] <__sorin__> tyler_d: ctrl-d, as in kill my shell? Very funny… not.
[17:21] <lulu> may i ask someone's help
[17:22] <lulu> wifi is no more recognized
[17:22] <hilikus> lulu: just ask
[17:22] <Troy^> ActionParsnip: ty
[17:22] <lulu> from my pc
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> Lulu: just ask :-)
[17:22] <tyler_d> __sorin__: wsan't trying to be funny sorry, what exactly are you trying to do?
[17:22] <lulu> can't fix the problem
[17:23] <lulu> since i distupgraded
[17:23] <__sorin__> tyler_d: Setup key bindings. So, I need to know the escape sequence for the meta key, aka ALT, or option on Mac.
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> Lulu: if you explain the issue on one line we may be able to hell
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> Help
[17:23] <hilikus> lulu: in the terminal, what is the results of the command ip addr show ??
[17:23] <antlong> what is this? http://d.pr/nFM0
[17:23] <hilikus> do you see wlan listed?
[17:23] <lulu> it seems like it doen't recognize the pw
[17:24] <lulu> but the pw it's fine
[17:24] <lulu> found many threads
[17:24] <lulu> on line
[17:24] <lulu> about this
[17:24] <lulu> it seems it's a prob that came with 11.04
[17:24] <Xpistos> Hi everyone. I was hoping someone could help me with a problem. I am trying to update my wife's Natty desktop but when I do I get several error messages that look like - W: Failed to fetch http://us.sudo/dists/wget/universe/i18n/Index  No Hash entry in Release file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.sudo_dists_wget_universe_i18n_Index
[17:25] <Xpistos> not sure what is wrong. I am in the CLI and it using sudo apt-get update
[17:25] <tyler_d> __sorin__: sorry, not a clue :(
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> antlong: my guess is scoll/caps/numlock indicator
[17:25] <ikonia> Xpistos: thats an external repo that's nothing to do with ubuntu
[17:26] <__sorin__> tyler_d: I noticed when you suggest CTRL+D.
[17:26] <ikonia> Xpistos: it also appears to not be an valid fully qualified domain
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> Lulu: why are you hitting enter after every 3 words?
[17:26] <tyler_d> __sorin__: ssh escape sequence is ~ .... thats as far as I go :P
[17:27] <juemo> ne2k: excuse me for the long wait.  I am connect to the server with static adress on another interface.  No wireless connexion are enabled.
[17:27] <tyler_d> __sorin__: sorry, not true, screen escape sequence is ctrl+a, esc
[17:27] <Nebula> Hey everyone, is there any way to upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 11.04?
[17:27] <ikonia> !upgrade | Nebula
[17:27] <Xpistos> ikonia: what about this - Get:27 http://us.sudo wget/universe TranslationIndex
[17:27] <Xpistos> Err http://us.sudo wget/http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/$(lsb_release i386 Packages
[17:27] <Xpistos>   Undetermined Error
[17:27] <Xpistos> Sorry
[17:27] <lulu> sory, bad habit
[17:27] <lulu> sorry*
[17:27] <wols> tyler_d: reinstall mesa for starters
[17:28] <Nebula> ikonia, does that really work for LTS to a normal version?
[17:28] <ikonia> Xpistos: first one is not a valid fully qualified domain, second is a repository that's nothing to do with #ubuntu,
[17:28] <wols> tyler_d: and later if you want to, reinstall nvidia drivers. this time from the ubuntu repos
[17:28] <ikonia> Nebula: have you read the url ?
[17:28] <tyler_d> wols: what package is mesa specifically :(
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> Lulu: indeed, i did say use one line. You didn't even explain your issue
[17:28] <Nebula> ikonia, im opening them now.... but i did a google on it before i came in here :D
[17:28] <wayne> ok this is my first time on here
[17:28] <wols> tyler_d: dpkg -l |grep mesa. reinstall them all
[17:28] <ikonia> Nebula: how about reading the URL then
[17:29] <Troy^> there got my built-in subwoofer on laptop to work
[17:29] <Nebula> ikonia, yeah im on it :P
[17:29] <lulu> don't know how to explain when i click on the icon to connect it takes forever
[17:29] <lulu> and it doen't connect
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> Lulu: all we currently know is there is a password involved and you took all those lines.
[17:30] <lulu> asking again and again the pw (that o enter right)
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> Lulu: so its a WIRELESS issue?
[17:30] <lulu> it's not the pw
[17:30] <wayne> alright, I am running Ubuntu 10.10 on my fujitsu lifebook t 4215 and my battery life indicator says six hours but it really is only about 2 hrs what is wrong?
[17:30] <lulu> it's a wireless issue
[17:30] <lulu> YES
[17:30] <lulu> as i wrote
[17:30] <lulu> first line
[17:30] <FloodBot1> lulu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:30] <gizmobay> How can I allow a user to run this command without sudo? sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[17:30] <lulu> of those many line
[17:30] <hilikus> lulu: are other computers able to connect to the wireless?
[17:30] <lulu> yes
[17:31] <tyler_d> wols: dpkg -l |grep mesa | awk '{ print $2}' | xargs apt-get install --reinstall
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> Lulu: then why not say that? Why was that not part of your details?
[17:31] <ikonia> gizmobay: you don't you give them sudo access to that command
[17:31] <gizmobay> You mean add them to the sudo'ers file
[17:31] <gizmobay> the command that is?
[17:31] <ikonia> gizmobay: I mean create a sudo rule for them , that will only allow them to run that command
[17:32] <Nebula> yeah, got it, thanks ikonia.... and /facedesk for me since it was just a setting that needed change... :P
[17:32] <tyler_d> wols: tyvm for your help. I'm going to bounce this and see how she goes
[17:32] <wayne> can someone help me with my problem please
[17:32] <ikonia> gizmobay: that option will be set in the /etc/sudoers file using the command visudo
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> Xpistos: i recommend you remove the ppa you added so it is smooth then readd it properly
[17:33] <gizmobay> ikonia: this still means I need to use the command sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[17:33] <gizmobay> I can't have sudo
[17:33] <Xpistos> I havent' added a ppa in the last 6 months that I know of
[17:33] <fVckingmania> alguien que me pueda ayudar con un parche en el kernel!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????????
[17:33] <ikonia> gizmobay: why ?
[17:33] <ikonia> Xpistos: no-one said you have
[17:34] <UbuntuFan> guys, how can I enable desktop icons on Ubuntu Netbook Remix?
[17:34] <Xpistos> ActionParsnip: Xpistos: i recommend you remove the ppa you added so it is smooth then readd it properly
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Xpistos: looks like you tried to add the medibuntu repo but either botched the command or pasted the command in sources.list which is incorrect
[17:34] <fVckingmania> hi I need help with my kernel!!
[17:34] <Technicus> Is it possible to install glibc?
[17:35] <vlt> !dedatils | fVckingmania
[17:35] <ikonia> fVckingmania: then ask a question
[17:35] <ikonia> Technicus: it'e already installed, it's the most important library on your system
[17:35] <shoenig> Technicus, i would certainly hope so
[17:35]  * vlt fail
[17:35] <Xpistos> ActionParsnip: This started happening on monday and I add medibuntu to her computer when I installed it in April
[17:35] <UbuntuFan> googles not helping, the alt-f2 doesnt work to open the run window
[17:35] <fVckingmania> can any one tell me how too list all patch charged to my kernel??
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntufan: there is no netbook remix these days
[17:35] <gizmobay> ikonia: My problem is I need the comand to restart my wifi since it goes down. I have a script and cron to check. The problem is without a network sudo doesn't work as it says host not found.
[17:35] <ikonia> fVckingmania: you can't, it's a precompiled binary
[17:36] <ikonia> gizmobay: then your machine is setup incorrectly
[17:36] <UbuntuFan> so you wont help?
[17:36] <Technicus> ikonia: How do I check to see that it is insatlled?
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> Xpistos: back out the change you made
[17:36] <ikonia> Technicus: does your ubuntu machine boot
[17:36] <vlt> fVckingmania: You can install linux-source packages and read ;-)
[17:36] <ikonia> gizmobay: what version (exactly) of ubuntu are you using
[17:36] <gizmobay> 10.04
[17:37] <ikonia> gizmobay: please paste your /etc/hosts file
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntufan: do you have a desktop with a top bar and icons down the left?
[17:37] <Xpistos> ActionParsnip: I didn't make any changes
[17:37] <fVckingmania> ikonia, I compile the kernel 2.6.39.3 and I add a patch, how can I know if it's charged??
[17:37] <ikonia> fVckingmania: if you're compiling kernels, you should know what you're doing, we don't support your custom kernels in this channel
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> Xpistos: you must have, medibuntu is not a default repo
[17:38] <Tigerboy> anyone mind giving me the ifconfig and route commands to get networking working in recovery mode...or if there is a better way.
[17:38] <Technicus> ikonia: From what I am learning Ubuntu uses eglibc which is a fork of glibc: [ http://www.eglibc.org/faq ].  I don't totally understand what it is though.
[17:38] <juemo> Hi pals !  My server do not respond to ARP requests.  Anyone got an idea ?  Details here : http://paste.ubuntu.com/654640/
[17:38] <newb> can you increase the wifi recieve strength in a laptop?
[17:38] <gizmobay> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/g4nQJvNe
[17:38] <ubuntuuseronlyju> yeah i have the icons down the right side
[17:38] <ikonia> Technicus: correct, but it is your libc library, so it's installed if your machine boots
[17:38] <Xpistos> ActionParsnip: I have not added anything new on this computer since I installed it in April except gprename
[17:38] <Xpistos> and that was 2 weeks ago
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Tigerboy: sudo dhclient eth0    assuming you use wired connection
[17:39] <gardnan> ok, as a poll, how many people are currently using a GUI/Desktop Environment?
[17:39] <ikonia> gizmobay: please show me the ouptut of the command "hostname"
[17:39] <ikonia> gardnan: please don't take polls in here
[17:39] <gardnan> oh sorry
[17:39] <fVckingmania> ikonia, any idea?
[17:39] <ikonia> fVckingmania: totally, and I've just told you that we do not support your custom kernels in here
[17:39] <tapple> is there a way to install ubuntu packages in your home directory without root access? I need to install trickle on a research cluster running ubuntu x64
[17:39] <ikonia> tapple: not using the package manager
[17:39] <gizmobay> john-desktop
[17:40] <Technicus> Technicus: Well . . . ok, thanks :)
[17:40] <noc> seen madara`
[17:40] <tapple> ikonia: didn't think so. thanks
[17:40] <ikonia> gizmobay: ok, so what happens if you try to use sudo
[17:40] <ikonia> noc: the bot does not have a seen function
[17:40] <noc> !seen madara`
[17:40] <tapple> how do I tell which versions of gcc are installed? I need gcc3 to compile the package from source
[17:40] <gizmobay> with network, it works, without i get a host not found
[17:40] <ikonia> tapple: gcc -v
[17:40] <rullie> hi, is there a place where I can find prebuilt debs of like.. everything?
[17:41] <rullie> synaptics is giving me dwm 5.7, but i want 5.9
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> Xpistos: you must have. You can use software centre to remove it, or if you can pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list   we may see the issue
[17:41] <ikonia> gizmobay: that shouldn't be the case as yout hostname is mapped to 127.0.0.1 which is localhost
[17:41] <gizmobay> *unable to resolve host I mean
[17:41] <fVckingmania> ikonia, I didn't customize the kernel I just add a patch!!
[17:41] <Tigerboy> rullie: getdeb.net
[17:41] <Technicus> ikonia: Is it possible to switch the system from eglibc to glibc?
[17:41] <ikonia> fVckingmania: that is a custom kernel then
[17:41] <tapple> that only shows the default gcc version
[17:41] <ikonia> Technicus: that is not something you want to do, switching libc versions in any way shape or form is not advised
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | rullie
[17:41] <fVckingmania> ikonia, yes you're rigth
[17:41] <ikonia> tapple: then look in the package manager for other versions installed
[17:41] <tapple> I thought linux systems usually had several gcc versions installed
[17:42] <chocolates> Does mono work on ubuntu?
[17:42] <Technicus> ikonia: How come that is the case?
[17:42] <ikonia> tapple: no, they do not
[17:42] <PatrickC> i just installed chromium
[17:42] <PatrickC> but i dont know where to find it
[17:42] <PatrickC> how do i launch it?
[17:42] <ikonia> Technicus: because it's a core library that everything is built against, changing it will stop things working
[17:42] <Technicus> ikonia: Ok then.
[17:42] <Tigerboy> tapple: yes but there is a default gcc usually the gcc which the kernel was built with..
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> PatrickC: press ALT+F2 and run: chromium-browser
[17:43] <tapple> hmm. well, my gentoo system had 4 gcc versions installed
[17:43] <ikonia> tapple: because you installed 4 versions
[17:43] <rullie> Tigerboy, ubottu they failed
[17:43] <ikonia> chocolates: yes
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> Tapple: its a different distro.
[17:43] <Tigerboy> rullie: failed what?\
[17:44] <PatrickC> ActionParsnip, thanks!
[17:44] <Tigerboy> any distro can have multiple gcc's on it
[17:44] <rullie> Tigerboy: they don't have dwm
[17:44] <Tigerboy> rullie: I bet they have it somewhere
[17:44] <tapple> ok. thanks
[17:44] <Tigerboy> rullie: you can always try to find the source and compile it on your system
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> ParkerR: welcome to a better browser ;-)
[17:45] <rullie> Tigerboy: yeah, don't have X11
[17:46] <rullie> X11 libs
[17:47] <Tigerboy> rullie: you have to install all the libs needed by the source code.
[17:47] <Tigerboy> it will tell you what is missing
[17:48] <Tigerboy> it took me a while to compile bzflag's latest version
[17:48] <Xpistos> http://pastebin.com/ceMLUM0a
[17:48] <lulu> ok, sorry agan...i'll be brief: got a prob with the wifi, it seems the pw is wrong even if i checked it was right; this doen't happen with other computers. I read some threads and it seems it's a prob that came with the upgrade to 11.04
[17:49] <ikonia> Xpistos: line 15
[17:49] <lulu> solutions posted in the threads don't fix my problem
[17:49] <lulu> can anybody help me?
[17:50] <mynameisdeleted> is there a live ubuntu-netbook-arm image available from cd?
[17:50] <linuxguy101> http://newsworldwide.wordpress.com/2011/07/29/house-committee-approves-bill-mandating-that-internet-companies-spy-on-their-users/
[17:50] <ikonia> linuxguy101: why are you posting that inhere ?
[17:50] <Xpistos> ikonia: what is wrong with line 15
[17:50] <ThinkT510> !arm | mynameisdeleted
[17:50] <ikonia> Xpistos: remove it, it's nonsense
[17:50] <Xpistos> isn't line 15 medibuntu?
[17:50] <ikonia> Xpistos: it's garbled nonsense
[17:52] <f3bruary> I cannot send files from phone (nokia e71) to ubuntu via bluetooth. output of syslog, http://pastebin.com/7LYQEW42
[17:52] <f3bruary> I can send them from ubuntu to phone successfully
[17:53] <Xpistos> Still getting errors - http://pastebin.com/9Z2ctEWk
[17:56] <py9371> lc987\
[17:56] <ikonia> Xpistos: remove files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[17:57] <DDANTAS> please - help
[17:57] <anakin_n> DDANTAS, with ? :)
[17:57] <tapple> how do I tell what files the package trickle installed?
[17:57] <wols> tapple: dpkg -L <package>
[17:57] <ikonia> tapple: how did you install it
[17:58] <tapple> aptitude
[17:58] <DDANTAS> isdb t
[17:58] <ikonia> tapple: check out wols advice
[17:59] <anakin_n> DDANTAS, isdb ? an tv standard ?
[18:00] <StepNjump_> Hi guys, yesterday I received an update from Ubuntu that caused my system to load up only in low graphics mode. I know there is no such thing as a system restore in Ubuntu. How could I possibly automatically repair the damage that this update caused?
[18:00] <mang0> I'm trying to get artisteer to work with wine. it's supposed to, but apparatnly I need to do some terminal stuff. I need to do the command "sh winetricks" but when I try it says: Can't open winetricks" why is this?
[18:00] <Xpistos> I deleted the files in it ran update and they are the sources.list.d folder is gone now
[18:00] <maccam94> is there a way to prevent fsck from running from grub?
[18:00] <ikonia> StepNjump_: you need to figure out what has happened and fix it
[18:00] <Xpistos> is that ok?
[18:00] <spyzer> what is the easiest method with GUI which can try to reapir a hard disk
[18:00] <spyzer> ?
[18:00] <ikonia> Xpistos: fine
[18:01] <yawnie> hi guys
[18:01] <ikonia> spyzer: what's the problem with it ?
[18:01] <yawnie> anyone experienced issues booting ubuntu from usb flash drive on acer computers?
[18:01] <ikonia> mang0: #winehq for wine support
[18:01] <StepNjump_> actionparsnip, hi. could i ask you a question?
[18:01] <mang0> ah okay
[18:01] <spyzer> ikonia, some bad blocks are detected
[18:01] <ikonia> yawnie: why don't you just ask the real question
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> yawnie: many times
[18:01] <ikonia> spyzer: look at the badblocks program
[18:01] <dscorzoni> yawnie, how did you create de usb flash drive with ubuntu?
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> StepNjump_: wassup?
[18:02] <yawnie> i didnt, im on windows atm, trying to make bootable flash disk using unetbootin
[18:02] <dscorzoni> yawnie, I had problems with unetbootin... try to use the program recommended in the Ubuntu Download page...
[18:02] <spyzer> ikonia, but badblocks only checks the bad blocks who can try to repair those?
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> yawnie: did you md5 test the iso you downloaded?
[18:03] <yawnie> oh, md5 sounds like a good idea
[18:03] <yawnie> dscorzoni: ill also try your hint, thankies
[18:03] <ikonia> spyzer: read the docs on badblocks it can try to resolve the issue
[18:03] <spyzer> ok
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> !hashes | yawnie
[18:03] <dscorzoni> yawnie, you're welcome...
[18:04] <yawnie> ActionParsnip: thankies
[18:04] <Fjorgynn> how do I have dual monitors in xubuntu?
[18:04] <Fjorgynn> it says only "mirror"
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> Fjorgynn: which video chip do you have?
[18:05] <StepNjump_> Hi actionparsnip. You might be the only one that might help me here.... Listen, yesterday after I downloaded the latest automatic updates from ubuntu, my computer lost it`s audio and when I attempted to shut down, it wouldn`t even shut down normally. Maybe it was still installing. I don`t know. So I went to the terminal and performed a shutdown -r now and even THEN, it wouldn`t shutdown properly. When I rebooted, I got a message e
[18:05] <Fjorgynn> ActionParsnip: nvidia
[18:05] <Fjorgynn> nvidia gforce GT 330M
[18:05] <mynameisdeleted> foudn a happy root image to try
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Fjorgynn: did you install nvidia-current ?
[18:06] <Fjorgynn> nah, not yet
[18:06] <Fjorgynn> only tried in live cd so far
[18:06] <StepNjump_> actionparsnip it wouldn`t allow me to boot up in high graphics mode. I have a feeling it`s more than my graphics video driver the problem but I could be wrong. I am running a Acer netbook with on-board Intel video card
[18:06] <Xpistos> ikonia: That appears to have done the trick thank you
[18:06] <ikonia> Xpistos: no problem
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> StepNjump_: try: killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*    wait a little while then try a sound app like play an mp3 etc
[18:07] <StepNjump_> actionparsnip: I tried to boot up with previous version, tried a fsck, tried to blacklist the acer-wmi driver in blacklist.conf
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Xpistos: what was the magic bullet?
[18:08] <StepNjump_> actionparsnip yes but is this all caused by a sound driver?
[18:09] <Fjorgynn> :)
[18:09] <StepNjump_> actionparsnip that I won`t boot up?
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Fjorgynn: nvidia-current will give the driver you need. Restart X and it will be activated.
[18:10] <Fjorgynn> okay
[18:10] <Fjorgynn> so if I just plugin my second screen it will show up?
[18:10] <reaper> how do you get to the preferences on natty?
[18:10] <Fjorgynn> reaper: unity?
[18:11] <reaper> ubuntu
[18:11] <DDANTAS> I bought one Ez-TV ISDB t device and i don't how to install it.
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> StepNjump_: when you see the boot screen press Esc and you'll ser the boot messages
[18:11] <DDANTAS> i use the ubuntu 1.04
[18:11] <StepNjump_> actionparsnip: anything equivalent command for updating the intel video drivers like the nvidia?
[18:11] <reaper> I want to turn off the screen saver so it stops locking the screen.
[18:11] <wildc4rd> evenin all!
[18:11] <StepNjump_> Ok, let me try actionparsnip
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Fjorgynn: you can then run: nvidia-settings    and configure the display as you wish
[18:12] <Fjorgynn> :D
[18:13] <Fjorgynn> thanks!
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> DDANTAS: how does it connect to the system?
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Fjorgynn: nvidia loves Linux
[18:13] <Fjorgynn> :)
[18:14] <Reaper> Is there a way to adjust the screensaver on this?
[18:14] <StepNjump_> actionparsnip, I can`t wait for ubuntu to come up with an equivalent to sysrest
[18:14] <Fjorgynn> Reaper: in settings
[18:14] <Reaper> how do I get to the settings?
[18:14] <Fjorgynn> dunno :D
[18:14] <Fjorgynn> I am not using unity
[18:14] <Reaper> lol
[18:14] <Fjorgynn> xfce <3
[18:15] <Fjorgynn> but type "settings"
[18:15] <Fjorgynn> or something
[18:15] <Reaper> ahh im using natty
[18:15] <Reaper> 11.04
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> StepNjump_: not heard of sysrest
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> Reaper: there is Natty xubuntu.
[18:15] <DDANTAS> connected in my usb port
[18:16] <Reaper> what's that?
[18:16] <Travis-42> Unity/Ubuntu 11.04 is very very slow for things like moving windows and switching workspaces. I have a very fast computer and it has never been this slow before. Any ways to get this working better?
[18:16] <alucardromero-w> Travis-42, do you have the graphic drivers installed (Nvidia/ATI)?
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> DDANTAS: ok then run:  lsusb   one line will identify the device and you can use the 8 character hex id to find guides
[18:17] <Travis-42> alucardromero-w, yea
[18:17] <alucardromero-w> Which GPU do you have?
[18:17] <Travis-42> alucardromero-w, I have the nvidia drivers installed
[18:17] <alucardromero-w> Ah, okay... it's a bit laggy on my ATI-based workstation at work, I don't know why.
[18:17] <dury> hi there channel :)
[18:17] <Fjorgynn> Reaper: xfce is the main desktop envorinment in Xubuntu
[18:17] <Fjorgynn> that's the difference
[18:17] <Fjorgynn> and some programs
[18:17] <Fjorgynn> but it's the same system
[18:18] <alucardromero-w> Travis-42, sorry i couldn't help.
[18:18] <Reaper> yeah I have a mint versionof xfce
[18:18] <Reaper> *version of
[18:18] <dury> DVD RW SONY AD-5260S-0B SATA doesn't mount or doesn't appear in Natty
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Reaper: ubuntu is based on gnome. Xubuntu is based on xfce, so saying you use Natty doesn't tell us your desktop environment ;)
[18:18] <Reaper> ahh got cha
[18:18] <dury> Places or computer doesn't appear that device
[18:18] <Reaper> 1 sec ill check it out
[18:19] <Travis-42> it's a 9800gtx+. Not that fastest anymore, but seems like it should be fast enough to resize or move a window...
[18:19] <Fjorgynn> :)
[18:19] <dury> k3b doesn't detect
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> Dury: does it show in the output of: sudo lshw -C disk; sudo lshw -C drive
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> Reaper: if you click the power button in the top right you will se the settings there
[18:20] <dury> ActionParsnip: I have to check it out give me time please :)
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> Travis-42: i run a 6150 onboard and have no issues. Yours is way more powerful than minr
[18:21] <mokti_> Hey, I had a quick question
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> mokti_: ask away
[18:22] <mokti_> Does anyone know why there is no C Shell in ubuntu by default
[18:22] <Travis-42> ActionParsnip, yea... there's clearly some issue... frustrating how slow basic tasks have become since upgrading :-/
[18:22] <tiago> i get this issue when trying to ssh Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive).
[18:22] <tiago> any ideas what is causing this?
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> mokti_: do you mean use csh instead of bash?
[18:22] <Tigger__> hi
[18:23] <mokti_> yes, why isn't csh in ubuntu by default?
[18:23] <mokti_> or is it?
[18:23] <ikonia> mokti_: it's not a common shell any more , install tsch
[18:23] <mokti_> Is that the only reason it isn't included?
[18:23] <ikonia> mokti_: not common any more
[18:23] <al_nz1> I am trying to put a linux iso on USB with Unetbootin but getting a error loading kernel when trying to run from USB. Anyone know how to fix this?
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> Travis-42: uninstall the nvidia driver, reboot then install nvidia-current and you should be ok
[18:24] <daan4711> hi!
[18:24] <mokti_> al_nzl: is there a specific error that appears?
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> al_nz1: did you md5 test the iso you transferred?
[18:25] <Reaper> so I gues I have the gnome verson
[18:25] <al_nz1> Heya ActionParsnip: yes. i think its more a case of editing something in /casper to point to '/' ? instead of '/cdrom' ?
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Reaper: more than likely yes
[18:26] <Reaper> i do, just installed the benchmark
[18:26] <Reaper> so the power button should show the settings?
[18:27] <Reaper> yep i see it
[18:27] <Reaper> thanx
[18:27] <daan4711> Q: I'am not able to set my wlan0 to master mode (AP), is there an alternate driver to do this? I'm using a Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG.
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> al_nz1: I've seen folks add bootoptions to make it not look for a cd. I forget what it is but it will show up in websearches
[18:28] <StepNjump_> actionparsnip, I kept rebooting pressing esc but the text disappears to fast. Can`t do it. I have the journals though if it may help
[18:28] <abstrakt> how do I find my processor model number?
[18:28] <abstrakt> like whatever I can see in the windows System Information accessory
[18:28] <al_nz1> ActionParsnip: k ta
[18:28] <Fjorgynn> abstrakt: why?
[18:29] <StepNjump_> actionparsnip. I meant.. would be nice if ubuntu had something similar to system restore in win
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> StepNjump_: try the bootoption: nomodeset   may help
[18:29] <sweb> is ubuntu 11.04 solve theme problem? theme automatically change to basic gnome theme
[18:29] <abstrakt> Fjorgynn, need to know if I have VT-x or not
[18:29] <abstrakt> wondering why IO-APIC doesn't work in vbox
[18:29] <bastidrazor> abstrakt: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[18:29] <abstrakt> s/wondering/and wondering/
[18:29] <abstrakt> bastidrazor, thx
[18:30] <digitalspark> hey
[18:30] <girl_> How do I install Gnome 3 is there a PPA for it?
[18:30] <Fjorgynn> abstrakt: neer heard of VTx-x ;o
[18:30] <abstrakt> bastidrazor, sweet that works quite well, thanks :)
[18:30] <ikonia> girl_: strongly advise you not to do that
[18:30] <sweb> http://forums.virtualbox.org/download/file.php?id=4387&sid=0556f8f3b5e0ac7725c9658489259312 looks like this. the GPU was installed
[18:30] <bastidrazor> abstrakt: you're welcome.
[18:30] <girl_> ikonia: why?
[18:30] <xangua> girl_: yes, but is not recomended to add it
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> StepNjump_: i made my own. I usd partimage in livecd every now and again to backup my system partition
[18:30] <ikonia> girl_: because it's unstabloe and not supported
[18:30] <xangua> girl_: because it may breack your system
[18:31] <abstrakt> Fjorgynn, yeah, when you said "why", i figured it was probably above your head
[18:31] <girl_> girl: I don't mind I plan to run it on a test system for bug triage
[18:31] <ikonia> !gnome3 > girl_
[18:31] <ikonia> girl_: please don't ask for support with it or your system once it's installed
[18:31] <digitalspark> is it possible to use my external storage devices from virtual operating system??
[18:31] <ikonia> digitalspark: depends what virtualisation technology you're using
[18:32] <digitalspark> ikonia vbox from  oracle
[18:32] <ikonia> digitalspark: the open source version doesn't support it
[18:32] <tiago> I'm getting this message when trying to do ssh: Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive).
[18:32] <girl_> ikonia: of course not and I have no unity installed just kubuntu-desktop
[18:32] <tiago> anyone knows how to solve this?
[18:33] <girl_> ikonia: so it cannot break unity if it is not there!
[18:33] <ikonia> tiago: who runs the host your trying to connect to
[18:33] <StepNjump_> actionparsnip. thanks for your help but i spent all night trying to figure it out. today I am really busy so I will leave it on the shelves for now. Maybe one day I'll find the way
[18:33] <wols> digitalspark: yes it's possible with virtualbox 4.x however only at USB 1.1 speeds.
[18:34] <digitalspark> ikonia wht if i use virtual machine???
[18:34] <tiago> ikonia: the university
[18:34] <wols> ikonia: it does support it
[18:34] <ikonia> digitalspark: virtual machine is not a technology
[18:34] <ikonia> wols: the open source version supports USB connected devices now ?
[18:34] <zkam> did you all hear that Apple now has more cash on hand than the U.S. government?
[18:34] <ikonia> digitalspark: there you go, wols knows more,
[18:34] <wols> ikonia: since version 4. usb 1.1 only. no 2.0
[18:34] <ikonia> zkam: we don't care, it's offtopic
[18:34] <zkam> ikonia, she was just talking about Apple
[18:35] <ikonia> zkam: don't care - it's offtopic here
[18:35] <bert__> hallo
[18:35] <wols> ikonia: ther eis a "ext pack" at vbox.org tho which works on all OSes (don't ask me how) supposedly which enables usb 2.0 support
[18:35] <zkam> relax ikonia
[18:35] <girl_> Any guidelines for a .net vb.net and c# to transition development to linux. I don't mind learning new things.  I am interested in C++ and QT (QML) How long do you think it should take me to learn it. I have been devloping for years on Windows.
[18:35] <ikonia> zkam: I am, I'm just telling you to not poast that stuff
[18:35] <Guest62165> bye
[18:35] <ikonia> girl_: talk to mono developers
[18:35] <zkam> ikonia, I apologize... I apparently connected to the wrong room
[18:35] <zkam> I'll be off now
[18:36] <Fjorgynn> wtf windows 7 can only shrink my partition 12 GB
[18:36] <ikonia> Fjorgynn: control the language please.
[18:36] <al_nz1> ActionParsnip: k ta
[18:36] <girl_> ikonia: I am not very keen on mono because of gtk
[18:36] <Fjorgynn> ikonia: -.-
[18:36] <Fjorgynn> is windows 7 bad language?
[18:36] <ikonia> girl_: ok, so you still need to talk to them about porting options
[18:36] <ikonia> Fjorgynn: no, "wtf" is
[18:36] <Fjorgynn> nah
[18:37] <ikonia> Fjorgynn: sorry, I'm exaplining to you it IS unacceptable langauge
[18:37] <Fjorgynn> neger
[18:37] <wols> ikonia: is it sunday already or why are they all out of the woodwork today?
[18:37] <ikonia> wols: holidays
[18:38] <girl_> ikonia: I do not wish to port existing apps. But get started developing on Kubuntu
[18:39] <ikonia> girl_: ok, then start learning the langage KDE is based on
[18:40] <digitalspark> ikonia can u tell me some vbox technology open source that supports it??
[18:40] <girl_> ikonia: kde uses C++, qt4 and some python scripting, how long should it take me to be familiar with C++?
[18:40] <ikonia> girl_: depends on your abiliy, it's not really an ubuntu support issue
[18:40] <ikonia> digitalspark: check out wols advice
[18:41] <digitalspark> i did not get!!!!!
[18:41] <girl_> ikonia: Are you a developer?
[18:41] <troy1> im having a problem with lock ups like my clicks will become unresponsive but i can move the mouse arround and apps will continue to run but any input i can't change windows etc. the only way i seem to beable to get out of it is a manual forced shutdown.. im using gnome 2 ubuntu class environment. is there anyway to tell whats causing it?
[18:42] <Eighteens> ok after doing a update, the system rebooted, and no sound card detected, tried running alsamixer same thing, no sound card detected, but i had sound before reboot, using ubuntu 10.04, can anyone help please
[18:42] <ikonia> girl_: sometimes
[18:42] <bullgard4_> '!sound | Eighteens
[18:42] <bullgard4_> !sound | Eighteens
[18:43] <yawnie> so much for md5 checksum and trying the universal installer
[18:43] <yawnie> the acer just stucks on blank screen with blinking cursor
[18:45] <wols> girl_: do you know what a pointer is?
[18:46] <girl_> wols: yes
[18:46] <girl_> wols: Why???
[18:46] <wols> girl_: then you have a chance with C++ :)
[18:47] <mokti> yawnie: what happened?
[18:47] <girl_> wols: like in c#?
[18:47] <quiescens> a pointer is a little arrow~
[18:47] <girl_> wols: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointer_(computing)
[18:47] <ikonia> girl_: you may want to take this to a private message with wols
[18:47] <ikonia> girl_: this channels for ubuntu support only please.
[18:48] <yawnie> mokti: i am trying to install ubuntu via usb flash drive, but it won't boot... it ends up with black screen with blinking cursor
[18:48] <girl_> ikonia: ok
[18:48] <digitalspark> oh progamming classes
[18:48] <wols> yawnie: alternate installer?
[18:48] <Guest13826> hello
[18:48] <Eighteens> my computer only detects a dummy soundcard, i've tried looking at the forums, and i did have sound before update and reboot
[18:49] <yawnie> tried unetbootin, universal usb installer... i have acer 5742g with intel core i3-370 ... i have amd64 ubuntu iso
[18:49] <Guest13826> es mi pirimera ves utilizando linuz
[18:49] <wols> yawnie: it's not the installer which is the problem, it's ubuntu vs. your laptop
[18:49] <yawnie> wols: i guess so
[18:50] <wols> yawnie: use the alternate installer. and if that fails. disable kms and framebuffer
[18:50] <Guest13826> alguien que hable español para que me de indicaciones
[18:50] <wols> !es
[18:50] <Pici> !es | Guest13826
[18:51] <yawnie> wols: ok, i will give it a try, thanks
[18:51] <girl_> How can I improve performance of my Intel GMA 950 in natty... performance was better in maverick
[18:51] <girl_> I tried xorg-edgers but no improvement
[18:52] <ikonia> girl_: what xorg driver is it using ?
[18:52] <girl_> ikonia: the default in natty
[18:52] <ikonia> girl_: which is......
[18:53] <girl_> ikonia: I'm on windows right now
[18:53] <ikonia> girl_: ok, so come back on ubuntu
[18:53] <girl_> ikonia one moment please
[18:56] <yawnie> wols: is there any other way of downloading alternate installation than via torrent?
[18:57] <ikonia> yawnie: the main ubuntu.com website
[18:58] <yawnie> ikonia: ok, but it still leads to torrent links
[18:58] <ikonia> yawnie: didn't for me
[18:58] <yawnie> ikonia: alternate installer?
[18:59] <girl> xserver-xorg-video-intel	 2:2.15.0
[18:59] <Lasers> yawnie: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/release/
[18:59] <yawnie> oh, that.
[18:59] <girl> ikonia: xserver-xorg-video-intel	 2:2.15.0
[18:59] <Lasers> I think the link doesn't need two "releases" in it. :O
[19:00] <ikonia> girl: sorry, I wasn't clear. make sure xorg is loading the intel module
[19:00] <rabe_> evening
[19:01] <girl> ikonia: it is loading the intel module
[19:01] <Guest59980> hello, i'm looking for a way to change keyboard keys, for example my new laptop has (disgustingly) the function keys (f1-12) as the secondary keys they-ve been replaced by media keys, i'd like to change this, i'd also like to have it so the calculator key links to a different program and such
[19:01] <ikonia> girl: how do you know
[19:01] <Guest59980> do you know of a wiki page or what i should be searching for, i'm not sure what the name of this is
[19:01]  * afrodeity front 242 rocks
[19:01] <ikonia> afrodeity: please don't post random stuff in this channel
[19:01] <afrodeity> hello ikonia, just got back
[19:01] <girl> kwin starts producing output obout the driver in use intel i8 something
[19:02] <girl> ikonia: acceleration works but it is just not as good as maverick
[19:02] <ikonia> girl: ok, there are multiple ones, such as the i810 and the intel module, which one is it loading
[19:02] <ikonia> girl: ok, there are multiple ones, such as the i810 and the intel module, which one is it loading
[19:02] <girl> ikonia: one moment please
[19:02] <girl> ikonia: i915/i945
[19:03] <ikonia> girl: that's not a driver name
[19:03] <afrodeity> sorry wrong channel, thought i had joined ubuntu-za
[19:03] <girl> ikonia: steps to find your "driver" name
[19:03] <ikonia> girl: look in the xorg log file
[19:03] <ikonia> girl: are you using an xorg.conf file /
[19:03] <girl> ikonia ok
[19:04] <girl> ikonia: no ... preconfigured xorg device
[19:04] <Alec2> hello, i'm looking for a way to change keyboard keys, for example my new laptop has (disgustingly) the function keys (f1-12) as the secondary keys they-ve been replaced by media keys, i'd like to change this, i'd also like to have it so the calculator key links to a different program and such (repost)
[19:05] <john_doe> I have two lan's (different subnet masks) with my ubuntu server on both via seperate if's. It works great. Now, is it possible to let the ubuntu server be a bridge such that the machines on the different nets can reach each others?
[19:06] <rabe_> is it possible to integrate updates in a live-cd (or usb stick)?
[19:06] <ikonia> john_doe: yes, iptables can act as a router to allow that
[19:06] <ikonia> rabe_: not really no, not without a respin
[19:06] <Alec2> lol @ john_doe you have a VERY generic name :P
[19:06] <rabe_> respin being?
[19:06] <ikonia> rabe_: the respin of a CD
[19:07] <john_doe> ikonia: great thanks! I know that iptables is a big and complicated thing. Could you give me a couple of keywords for google?
[19:07] <rabe_> that would be no problem
[19:07] <drake01> Alec2, I have seen this in dell machines. If this is the case with u, it can be configured from bios settings. Look for function key behavior. Even if its not from dell, you may give it a try.
[19:07] <ikonia> john_doe: iptables router should bring up some examples
[19:07] <john_doe> Alec2: yes :-)
[19:07] <ikonia> rabe_: how do you know that would be no problem when you just asked what a respin was
[19:07] <Alec2> drake01, that said, what about re-assiging other keys?
[19:07] <john_doe> ikonia: thanks again
[19:08] <rabe_> ikonia, language barrier :)
[19:08] <ikonia> john_doe: be aware of #netfilter channel too, good guys in there, iptable specialists
[19:08] <ikonia> rabe_: ok
[19:08] <john_doe> ikonia: :-)
[19:08] <rabe_> is there documentation on that?=
[19:08] <Alec2> hello, i'm looking for a way to change keyboard keys, for example my new laptop has (disgustingly) the function keys (f1-12) as the secondary keys they-ve been replaced by media keys, i'd like to change this, i'd also like to have it so the calculator key links to a different program and such (repost) (more assigning keys to commands)
[19:08] <ikonia> rabe_: why ? you know how to do it, you just said it's not a problem
[19:09] <rabe_> i meant that i'd still want to do it, but not how to
[19:11] <jwa> I created a custom .desktop file for an application; and when I try to place it on my desktop I get: "There was an error getting information about "/". The specified location is not supported". Clickint the entry in the app menu works, tho. (file is here: http://scrp.at/_0 )
[19:12] <Alec2> please don't make me repost again :/
[19:13] <ikonia> Alec2: don't then
[19:13] <girl> alec2: See this in uf tutorials and tips http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79560
[19:14] <Alec2> thanks
[19:15] <troy1> im having a problem with lock ups like my clicks will become unresponsive but i can move the mouse arround and apps will continue to run but any input i can't change windows etc. the only way i seem to beable to get out of it is a manual forced shutdown.. im using gnome 2 ubuntu class environment. is there anyway to tell whats causing it?
[19:15] <girl> ikonia: sorry
[19:15] <natty-user> Hi, may I ask the difference between Kubuntu, Ubuntu and Xubuntu?
[19:15] <girl> ikonia: what was your last querry
[19:16] <ikonia> girl: forget it - sort yourself out
[19:16] <W43372> Can someone point me to a link for how to configure smb.conf in Natty?
[19:16] <girl> ikonia: thanks for your help
[19:16] <ikonia> !samba | W43372
[19:16] <troy1> natty-user: it is different packaged software, such as the window environments are different
[19:16] <natty-user> All I know is Kubuntu uses KDE, Ubuntu uses GNOME, and Xubuntu uses Xfce.
[19:17] <troy1> natty-user: thats right other then that there isnt much if at all a difference
[19:17] <W43372> ikonia, would one of those links have an example smb.conf and which options I need to tweak?
[19:17] <Benkinooby> natty-user, in short: the base system will be exactly the same... so you will have the same software... it will jsut look different
[19:17] <ikonia> W43372: have you read the links ?
[19:17] <W43372> I just opened them ikonia, so no...
[19:18] <W43372> ikonia, I stupidly forgot to back up my smb.conf before I reinstalled.
[19:18] <ikonia> W43372: ok - so do you not think it's a bit insulting to ask for help, get given it then ask for more help before even reading the links that someones taken time to type ?
[19:18] <ahammond> I have an older laptop running 10.10. I basically just need terminals on the X desktop. Gnome and KDE are both overkill. How can I get a super light-weight desktop please?
[19:18] <natty-user> :Beninooby: So its safe to assume that they're just different visual themes?
[19:18] <Benkinooby> natty-user, xubunut uses xfce, the samllest and fastest of those you are mentioning. kde is know for being very complete and having a lot of settings you can change. gnome is generally know for being minimal and less  bulky tha KDE.
[19:19] <ThinkT510> !mini | ahammond
[19:19] <Benkinooby> natty-user, they are a bit more than that...
[19:19] <Benkinooby> natty-user, the menus will be organized in a different way
[19:19] <troy1> lol
[19:19] <ahammond> ThinkT510: I'm thinking specifically about the desktop / window manager stuff. Is there an easy way to get one of the old-school ones installed?
[19:19] <Benkinooby> natty-user, but you can test it... all the interfaces are just programms, like any other progrma to
[19:19] <jwa> troy1: why is there no awesomebuntu? :P
[19:19] <Benkinooby> natty-user, you can easily install and uninstall them
[19:20] <ThinkT510> !lubuntu | ahammond
[19:20] <Benkinooby> natty-user, so you can turn a ubuntu in a full xubuntu or kubuntu and vice versa
[19:20] <ahammond> thanks, I'll check it out!
[19:20] <natty-user> I've been using Ubuntu on an old PC for two years. I was wondering if the alternatives, especially the Xubuntu/Xfce maybe a better option?
[19:20] <Troy^> jwa: yes
[19:20] <Benkinooby> natty-user, xfce is faster
[19:20] <Troy^> xfce is very light-weight
[19:21] <Benkinooby> natty-user, i use fluxbox.. it is one of the fastest... but very minimal
[19:21] <Troy^> very customizable as well
[19:21] <Troy^> but im a hardcore gnome 2 dan
[19:21] <Troy^> fan*
[19:21] <natty-user> Will the software work the same? btw, I never heard of fluxbox. I'll need to look into that.
[19:22] <Benkinooby> natty-user, fluxbox is not really for beginners... it makes a lot use of key short cuts
[19:22] <Benkinooby> natty-user, i barely use the mouse
[19:22] <Troy^> natty-user: it all works the same its just different window environment and sometime more configuration is needed in the lighterweight
[19:22] <Myrtti> natty-user: lubuntu is fairly light, I'm running it on a relatively old machine
[19:22] <ThinkT510> natty-user: xfce is gtk based, it works fantastic, my favourite de
[19:22] <Benkinooby> natty-user, maybe, if you are coming from gnome, xfce will be a good thing for you
[19:22] <abstrakt> how can I change the screen resolution on the console?
[19:22] <jwa> Troy^: I meant the Awesome window manager not xfce
[19:22] <abstrakt> is that a grub thing?
[19:23] <ahammond> uh, so TWM is pretty much dead?
[19:23] <natty-user> Thanks guys, I'll download Xubuntu and try it.
[19:23] <Toph2> benkevan,,, is fluxbox a window manager. ?
[19:23] <abstrakt> natty-user, try openbox as well
[19:23] <Troy^> jwa: never used it or heard of anybody using it
[19:23] <Benkinooby> natty-user, wait...do you ahve ubuntu installed?
[19:23] <abstrakt> natty-user, and also have a look at FVWM
[19:23] <jwa> Troy^: http://awesome.naquadah.org/
[19:24] <Benkinooby> natty-user, you can use gnome and xfce side by side and choose waht you like to use during log in
[19:24] <Troy^> natty-user: if you have ubuntu installed you can install xfce
[19:24] <abstrakt> natty-user, FVWM is basically wicked fast but requires lots of customization
[19:24] <Benkinooby> Toph2, yes, fluxbox is a window manager
[19:24] <Troy^> jwa: yea i'm looking at it now
[19:24] <Toph2> benkevan,,, ok,, thanks,, i hadn't heard of it either
[19:25] <adriano> one question: do you know if there is an italian channel to chat?
[19:25] <natty-user> How do I install them side by side, multiboot?
[19:25] <Benkinooby> Toph2, the cool thing of fluxbox is, that it can tab windows... so you can tab together independent windows... that's good for organzing your stuff if you have many windows open
[19:25] <oCean> !it | adriano
[19:25] <jwa> Troy^: I still need to try it out myself but I love the (non-)features :)
[19:25] <adriano> thanks a lot!
[19:26] <Troy^> natty-user: XFCE is in xubuntu but you can just install XFCE inside ubuntu its the samething
[19:26] <jwa> ./msg alis *ubuntu*
[19:26] <jwa> ^ woah
[19:26] <Toph2> benkevan,,, neat,, i'm just looking at some screenshots as well
[19:26] <Troy^> natty-user: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xubuntu
[19:27] <guntbert> abstrakt: have you seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer ?
[19:27] <Troy^> natty-user: or if you prefer graphically http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xfce but the installations are the same
[19:27] <natty-user> @Troy^, Thanks for the links
[19:28] <natty-user> @Benkinooby: Thanks
[19:28] <Benkinooby> natty-user, you are welcome...
[19:28] <Benkinooby> natty-user, again, all things can be installed side by side... you can have fluxbox, xfce, gnome, kde installed in the same time and then choose what to use when you log in
[19:29] <Benkinooby> natty-user, i did that when i was looking for my favourite interface...
[19:29] <Troy^> yea and im still a gnome 2 user :P
[19:29] <ahammond> is there a simple process for switching a stock ubuntu install to Lubuntu?
[19:30] <Benkinooby> natty-user, btw, if you are playing around... i REALLY, recommend you to have a look at gnome-do or kupfer
[19:30] <jwa> 'nother question: I modified xdg-open with this patch: http://bit.ly/oMjBM5 and as far as I can tell this should work, I setup an uri with xdg-mime and a proper *.desktop handler, but when I try 'xdg-open xdebug:///var/www/phpinfo.php' it says "Error showing url: The specified location is not supported"..
[19:30] <Benkinooby> natty-user, they are application starters and also index some of your most used files... gnome-do or kupfer make the use of menus obsolete and you will find your files very fast
[19:30] <Benkinooby> natty-user, there are youtube videos on how they work and what they can do
[19:31] <Troy^> never heard of gnome-do
[19:31] <natty-user> Benkinooby: I'll look into those too, its good to learn more about linux. I've learnt much today. Thanks again. I'll be back after re-logging in :)
[19:31] <Benkinooby> Troy^, i's made for ... tatatataaaaa... gnome... but can be used somewhere else too.... persnoally i prefer kupfer
[19:33] <abstrakt> guntbert, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer#Setting_different_framebuffer_resolutions_in_old_versions_of_GRUB doesn't help for new versions of grub tho does it?
[19:34] <dorgan> I have a tar file that is 174GB and I am trying to untar it however when it runs it only extract one 300 byte file
[19:34] <himcesjf> apt-get ugprade says - 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 142 not upgraded. How do I upgrade packages not upgrade?
[19:34] <alpha> When I open my pictures folder, it always keep asking me if I want to synchronize the folder with ubuntu one. How do I make it stop asking this? (Ubuntu 11.04)
[19:34] <himcesjf> upgraded*
[19:35] <guntbert> abstrakt: its just a matter of where you apply the changes, the kernel parameters keep the same, so edit /etc/default/grub like stated at the beginning of that chapter
[19:36] <davro> himcesjf: apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:37] <NoReGreT> i'm on lucid, and not able to sleep/wakeup, it always freezes with a black screen, any help ?
[19:38] <hilikus> NoReGreT: try getting an updated video driver.
[19:38] <NoReGreT> hilikus: my HP DV6 got a dual GPU AMD/INTEL
[19:38] <NoReGreT> and it is the latest AMD driver
[19:39] <oCean> himcesjf: did you run a sudo apt-get update before the apt-get upgrade command? Also, what version are you using?
[19:39] <oCean> !afk > ozior_away
[19:39] <fulluser> Hi
[19:39] <fulluser> I got my Ati rage 128 pro card to work
[19:39] <himcesjf> oCean: Yes. 11.04
[19:39] <hamnegga> my apt is all messed up.  If I issue an, "apt-get update", "apt get-upgrade", or anything.  It says, "Retreiving pacakage information (%0)" and stays at 0 percent, while my cpu processes go to about 80% and never resolves anything.  Anyone got any ideas
[19:39] <fulluser> How i can enable direct rendering
[19:40] <fulluser> and disable the mesa rasterizer
[19:41] <oCean> himcesjf: and the update command completes without any error?
[19:41] <hamnegga> anyone got any ideas?
[19:42]  * fulluser need help
[19:42] <hilikus> hamnegga:  possible repo's out of date, or incorrect.
[19:42] <aetas> hey guys, I removed the obnoxious overlay-scrollbar scrollbar but its still stayed active in some apps such as some of the scrollbars in Xchat as well as Eclipse (Java)...any ideas?
[19:42] <himcesjf> oCean: Yes
[19:42] <hamnegga> hello?
[19:43] <paddy_> unity does not show when i boot up anymore. my wallpaper is fine and a dropbox window opens and is usable. there is no panel or launcher. i have tried running 'unity' from commandline but it segfaults.
[19:45]  * fulluser is one step from getting fast gfx
[19:46] <oCean> himcesjf: and a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[19:46]  * fulluser NEEDS HELP
[19:46] <oCean> fulluser: please stop that
[19:46] <himcesjf> oCean: running
[19:47]  * ikonia is one step away from kicking fulluser from the channel for not asking a support question like a normal person
[19:48] <fulluser> I asked a question!
[19:48] <fulluser> and you ignored me
[19:49] <fulluser> here it goes again
[19:49] <ikonia> no, no-one knew the answer or was available to help
[19:49] <fulluser> How i can enable direct rendering
[19:49] <ikonia> fulluser: have you looked at that cards supported status in Ubuntu ?
[19:49] <Pici> fulluser: This channel is very busy, please ask your question all on one line so it doesn't get lost.
[19:49] <fulluser> And disable mesa software rasterizer
[19:50] <ikonia> fulluser: have you looked if the card is supported in Linux ?
[19:50] <fulluser> yes
[19:50] <Semitones> fulluser, a little context would help too
[19:50] <paddy_> unity does not show when i boot up anymore. my wallpaper is fine and a dropbox window opens and is usable. there is no panel or launcher. i have tried running 'unity' from commandline but it segfaults.
[19:50] <fulluser> there is a r128
[19:50] <ikonia> fulluser: is it supported ?
[19:50] <fulluser> yes
[19:50] <ikonia> fulluser: what drivers does it need ?
[19:50] <fulluser> r128
[19:50] <ikonia> fulluser: no, what drivers does it need
[19:51] <fulluser> r128 (Ati rage pro 128 ultra tf)
[19:51] <ikonia> fulluser: what drivers does it need to work in Linux
[19:51] <Cojage> how do i install gentoo
[19:51] <fulluser> And x loads the driver an all
[19:51] <ikonia> Cojage: ask in #gentoo
[19:51] <Cojage> j/k dont ban me
[19:51] <fulluser> they are named r128
[19:51] <ikonia> Cojage: please keep that sort of nosense out of the channel
[19:51] <ikonia> fulluser: ok - have you installed them ?
[19:51] <fulluser> yes
[19:51] <ikonia> fulluser: how did you install them ?
[19:51] <Figgis> Cojage, you here for support?
[19:51] <fulluser> and it works and i get full resolution
[19:52] <fulluser> they wher included
[19:52] <Cojage> figgis yes
[19:52] <fulluser> xorg-drivers-r128
[19:52] <Figgis> Cojage, and why aren't you reciving it?
[19:52] <wols> ikonia: xserver-xorg-video-r128
[19:52] <bane_> hello, I have a problem with ubuntu 11.04 x64 bit, when my computer is inactive, when display goes to sleep, when I reactivate it, I can't see GUI any more, only black screen and mouse pointer, I am running Unity, and I must restart my laptop, what to do?
[19:52] <ikonia> fulluser: so you used the software additional drivers tool to enable it
[19:52] <john_rambo> I am trying to generate a apparmor profile for the FF 5.0.1 .....http://pastebin.com/b11jxuL9   << But I find no profile is generated
[19:52] <Cojage> lol
[19:52] <wols> ikonia: it's part of xorg since years immemorial
[19:53] <girl__> Cojage: refer to Gentoo's documention. Note this is an Ubuntu Channel please do not use it for gentoo support
[19:53] <ikonia> girl__: he just said it was a joke
[19:53] <fulluser> no
[19:53] <paddy_> does anyone know of a reason why unity disappears?
[19:53] <fulluser> I edited the xorg.conf
[19:53] <paddy_> unity does not show when i boot up anymore. my wallpaper is fine and a dropbox window opens and is usable. there is no panel or launcher. i have tried running 'unity' from commandline but it segfaults.
[19:53] <ikonia> fulluser: ok, have you looked in the additional drivers tool to see if there is a better option
[19:53] <fulluser> yes
[19:53] <fulluser> there is no other option
[19:53] <ikonia> fulluser: really, it doesn't show any
[19:54] <fulluser> i edited the xorg.conf
[19:54] <fulluser> no
[19:54] <ThinkT510> ikonia: his card is from the 90's
[19:54] <ikonia> I'm a little surprised on that
[19:54] <Figgis> girl__, either you're an idiot or you don't realize that Cojage was trolling you.
[19:54] <ikonia> ThinkT510: we still have some older drivers in the list
[19:54] <fulluser> and it works fine , i get full resolution
[19:54] <ikonia> Figgis: that's uncalled for - please drop it
[19:54] <davro> paddy_: I had issues big time with "unity" it was the reason I rolled back to 10.10 LTS !
[19:54] <fulluser> but glx info
[19:54] <himcesjf> Thanks davro, oCean :)
[19:54] <himcesjf> oCean: dist-upgrade worked with no errors
[19:55] <fulluser> still show Software raserizer
[19:55] <j0_0> I plugged an external hdd into my laptop a day or so ago. yesterday I performed updates ubuntu notified me of and after rebooting the system many of my files and programs were missing. the computer also booted the external hdd as it had made a /usr directory on it. why would this happen?
[19:55] <ikonia> fulluser: does that xorg driver support acceleration ?
[19:55] <davro> himcesjf no problem buddy
[19:55] <ikonia> (I genuinly don't know, hence asking, it's not a loaded question)
[19:55] <oCean> himcesjf: nice. Probably some kernel upgrade in there
[19:55] <paddy_> davro: i am thinking of going suse
[19:55] <photon> hi. I am trying to delete lots of files with + signs in their file names. I tried this: rm *+*, but rm complains: rm: invalid option -- '+' Try `rm ./'-+ (705)'' to remove the file. what can I do about that?
[19:55] <fulluser> how i can know if it supports acceleration
[19:55] <fulluser> ?
[19:56] <kamidi> fulluser: should it be configured to use 'ati' driver? see: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+package/xserver-xorg-video-ati
[19:56] <ikonia> photon: \+
[19:56] <ikonia> kamidi: does that support such an old card ?
[19:56] <davro> paddy_: I am not sure i would go that far, personally I now stick to ubunt LTS releases or run debian, or linux mint !
[19:56] <fulluser>  Isnt ati a wrapper to the diferent drivers for ati card
[19:56] <fulluser> ?
[19:56] <kamidi> apparently r128 driver is wrapped into ati driver
[19:57] <kamidi> quote "This driver is actually a wrapper that loads one of the 'mach64', 'r128' or 'radeon' sub-drivers depending on the hardware.
[19:57] <abstrakt> guntbert, ok cool I will try that, thanks
[19:57] <ikonia> that's useful to know
[19:57] <paddy_> unity does not show when i boot up anymore. my wallpaper is fine and a dropbox window opens and is usable. there is no panel or launcher. i have tried running 'unity' from commandline but it segfaults.
[19:57] <BluesKaj> davro, let him try it ...he'll be back soon enough :)
[19:57] <abstrakt> paddy_, that's not a bug, it's a feature :P
[19:57] <abstrakt> feature of the new Unity OS
[19:58] <abstrakt> wahoo!
[19:58] <guntbert> abstrakt: you're welcome :-) (don't forget to run sudo update-grub after the edit) - btw you can try it without any changes to a grub file, just edit the kernel line in grub menu after booting
[19:58] <fulluser> How i can know if the driver support accelaration
[19:58] <photon> ikonia: that did not help. I think the problem is that the wildcard is being extended by the shell and the resulting file names are not quoted.
[19:58] <paddy_> abstrakt: i have used ubuntu for years now and i may switch to suse. i
[19:59] <fulluser> it should support 2d at leas
[19:59] <paddy_> unity does not show when i boot up anymore. my wallpaper is fine and a dropbox window opens and is usable. there is no panel or launcher. i have tried running 'unity' from commandline but it segfaults.
[19:59] <ikonia> photon: if the filename is test+name.file rm test\+name.file should work
[19:59] <JoshDreamland> Every time I install WINE, it associates sixty filetypes with Notepad and other stupid WINE programs. How do I undo that?
[19:59] <ikonia> photon: repeating the same question every 2 minutes will not help
[19:59] <ikonia> photon: please ask the question, wait a while to se if anyone knows, if they don't wait a while and ask later
[20:00] <hilikus> paddy_: try this: http://www.watchingthenet.com/restore-panels-in-ubuntu-back-to-their-default-settings.html
[20:00] <abstrakt> paddy_, nah, just switch back to classic on the GDM screen
[20:00] <abstrakt> paddy_, you don't have to use unity
[20:00] <photon> ikonia: you obviously didn't read the question. but I have an answer, don't worry.
[20:00] <ikonia> photon: sorry, that was for paddy
[20:00] <ikonia> photon: apologies
[20:00] <ikonia> photon: typo
[20:00] <photon> np
[20:00] <abstrakt> paddy_, you can use fluxbox fvwm or something if you want
[20:01] <zombiex> How do i increase the size of partition allocated to ubuntu...I have 500 GB hard drive and 50GB for ubuntu.
[20:01] <benkevan> Toph2: Yes.. fluxbox is a WM
[20:01] <abstrakt> guntbert, actually the thing is tho
[20:01] <D34X> hello ^^
[20:01] <Toph2> benkevan,,, yup,, i downloaded it,, haven't looked at it yet
[20:01] <abstrakt> guntbert, that link doesn't work for me, cuz where do I find the docs for /etc/default/grub
[20:02] <abstrakt> guntbert, it's not the same syntax
[20:02] <davro> abstrakt arrrh fluxbox, blackbox those bring back some happy debian memories!
[20:02] <D34X> ## Furries
[20:02] <D34X> kiuhnbfvuhvf
[20:02] <ikonia> D34X: please stop
[20:02] <fulluser> hey
[20:02] <fulluser> it seems like my driver is supported
[20:02] <fulluser> http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIRage128?highlight=%28CategoryHardware%29
[20:02] <fulluser> :)
[20:02] <abstrakt> guntbert, how do I add kernel parms on the grub boot screen?
[20:03] <abstrakt> guntbert, just... like, start typing?
[20:03] <fulluser> how i get my pc to use dri instead of mese
[20:03] <fulluser> mesa
[20:03] <wols> fulluser: wrong question
[20:03] <abstrakt> fulluser, sell your ATI and buy an nVidia :P
[20:03] <davro> abstrakt pfft
[20:03] <Guest26170> neet help =/
[20:04] <Guest26170> identify
[20:04] <guntbert> abstrakt: select on entry, press <e>  (for edit), move the cursor to the end of the kernel line, start typing, press <ctrl>x when you are done
[20:04] <Guest26170> #identify
[20:04] <Guest26170> wtf
[20:04] <fulluser> no money
[20:04] <ikonia> Guest26170: control the language
[20:04] <abstrakt> guntbert, good to know, thanks, e and C-x, got it
[20:04] <blackcatnekonegr> hello I have  gnome  2.32.0 and My lcd monitor just keeps turning off after a few minutes. Happens even in terminal mode
[20:04] <fulluser> i will end up with a RIVA
[20:04] <thegladiator>  Ubuntu
[20:04] <thegladiator> How to install Mac fonts
[20:05] <guntbert> abstrakt: grub tells you the needed/possible keys too, when in the editing session
[20:05] <ikonia> blackcatnekonegr: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[20:05] <blackcatnekonegr> 10.10
[20:05] <D34X> Anyone know some stuff on nubuntu 7.10?  I know, it's the U channel, not N, but there isn't an N channel and I need help .-.
[20:05] <ikonia> D34X: not supported here, sorry
[20:05] <mokti> Is there an ISO that comes with GNOME instead of UNITY?
[20:05] <ikonia> mokti: no
[20:05] <Zachaeous> Guys..
[20:06] <Zachaeous> What channel do I got to for support?
[20:06] <ikonia> Zachaeous: support with what ?
[20:06] <benkevan> Toph2: http://www.picpaste.com/yayscreenshot-7lowI46Z.png < my flux
[20:06] <D34X> mental?  health?
[20:06] <ikonia> D34X: last warning
[20:06] <Zachaeous> ikonia: support for my mic
[20:06] <abstrakt> guntbert, yeah ok cool I see that now, thanks
[20:06] <ikonia> Zachaeous: with what OS ?
[20:06] <jlgaddis> Hey guys, I'm asking this for a free who's currently without Internet access, so this is the only info I have.  Any help you could provide would be appreciated!
[20:06] <Zachaeous> Ubuntu
[20:06] <jlgaddis> "Any of my Ubuntu friends happen to know where network manager happens to hide its comfing? One of the kids disabled my laptop's wifi and now I can't bring it back up. Logs indicate that nm is changing it's state back to down with a link to a bug report but I can't get online to look at it."
[20:06] <ikonia> Zachaeous: ask here, someone will help if they can
[20:06] <guntbert> abstrakt: you're welcome :-)
[20:07] <cache_surplus> sheshh
[20:07] <Zachaeous> ok.. mic doesnt matter cuz its same problem with both my mics.. the input WORKS but the audio is all choppy and breaky... any suggestions anyone? OS: ubuntu
[20:08] <blackcatnekonegr> I have  gnome  2.32.0 and My lcd monitor just keeps turning off after a few minutes. Happens even in terminal mode. I use gnome 10.10
[20:08] <blackcatnekonegr> eh ubuntu 10.10
[20:09] <abstrakt> ok cool decent res on the console, but how do I save that?
[20:09] <dli> jlgaddis, while you didn't report any specific info(error messages, logs, etc.), try another network-manager, wicd, remove nm package, reboot
[20:09] <r000t_nb> I can't decrypt my home folder. I get a wall of errors on login and ecrypt-mount-private returns 'cannot examine encrypted directory'. I've been searching Google for the past hour and nothing has worked. I don't need anything in the folder, so how do I 'Blow up' and re-setup ecryptfs so I can start fresh?
[20:09] <abstrakt> guntbert, so now where do I put the vga=791 inside /etc/default/grub
[20:09] <blackcatnekonegr> ok I tried this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1222980
[20:10] <Zachaeous> Can someone help me with my mic please?
[20:10] <hilikus> jlgaddis:  try in term: ip link device wlan0 up
[20:10] <Zachaeous> anyone?
[20:11] <th0r> Zachaeous: crying might help, but stating the problem in a clear manner and waiting for someone who might know the answer will probably be easier
[20:11] <hilikus> opps sorry jlgaddis:  should be ip link set wlan0 up
[20:11] <hilikus> you may need to sudo that.
[20:11] <abstrakt> aight, nm
[20:11] <abstrakt> so
[20:12] <Zachaeous> th0r: Your ignorance offends me... scroll up... the problem is stated in a clear manner.
[20:12] <abstrakt> what window manager should I install on ubuntu, and will I require xdm/gdm/kdm? i forget
[20:12] <abstrakt> it's a virtual machine/server so I want it to be lightweight
[20:12] <wols> Zachaeous: your ignorance offends us too. not that we commented on it. until now
[20:12] <Zachaeous> wols: what ignorance did I display?
[20:12] <wols> abstrakt: usually the desktop oyu install installs one already. but you can install any other if you really want to
[20:12] <firmevato> i'm currently running ubuntu 10.04 but want to try some other flashdrive-bootable flavors of linux. Any suggestions?
[20:12] <jlgaddis> abstrakt: xfce or awesome are pretty lightweight and decent
[20:13] <wols> abstrakt: you don't need any DM either
[20:14] <Deithrian> Problem : I need an older version of Xine that supports vdpau, I have the deb files.The problem is that when i remove Xine it removes Kaffeine as well, when i install the old version of Xine with vdpau support i then need to install Kaffeine.But when i install Kaffeine the Software Manager Automatically updates Xine to the latest version which doesn't support vdpau.... Is there a way to prevent the software manager from updating libxine when i install
[20:14] <Deithrian> Kaffeine?
[20:14] <dli> abstrakt, try slim instead of gdm/kdm
[20:14] <Zachaeous> wols: I had a feeling you would ignore that question. Next time you try to speak in a condescending way, think before hand.
[20:14] <blackcatnekonegr> Back
[20:15] <th0r> Deithrian: it is called 'pinning' in synaptic if I remember correctly
[20:15] <wols> Zachaeous: you should think before you insult people you want help from. ever thought of that?
[20:15] <Deithrian> th0r: ok i will take a look thanks o-o
[20:15] <SCATTERSHOT> hey whats up
[20:15] <wols> Zachaeous: good luck. you will need it with your attitude
[20:15] <riboflavin> hello good torrent client for linux ??
[20:15] <Zachaeous> wols: Your ignorance offends me. I do not want help from the likes of you.
[20:15] <th0r> riboflavin: deluge or transmission
[20:16] <blackcatnekonegr> anyway, I have tried several metods for my lcd to not turn off , but then I had to decide I wanted the video driver to work, and then my lcd turns off and flash screws my display
[20:16] <Deithrian> th0r: thank you ^^ there is a "Lock version" which i think will do the trick :)
[20:16] <wols> blackcatnekonegr: disabled DPMS?
[20:16] <riboflavin> thx
[20:16] <dli> blackcatnekonegr, buggy display driver?
[20:17] <blackcatnekonegr> "(17:16:34) wols: blackcatnekonegr: disabled DPMS?" I unsitalled gnome energy program and even  the screensaver thing, the lcd still turns off
[20:17] <blackcatnekonegr> basicaly, it seems I have to find a way for my lcd to belive I am doing something, or it turn off on its own
[20:17] <dli> blackcatnekonegr, what about: xset s off
[20:18] <blackcatnekonegr> I think I will use pastebin, wait a minute
[20:18] <good_pie> When using ubuntu (libvirt/kvm) for virtualization in a multi-server arrangement with iSCSI/LVM shared storage, does anybody know if there's a good way to keep the same guest from starting on more than one node concurrently?
[20:18] <Reaper> So is it possible "alt tab" through programs you have running?
[20:18] <wols> blackcatnekonegr: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:jTIW5TIwZHAJ:ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D121061+disable+dpms+ubuntu&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=firefox-a&source=www.google.com  for example
[20:19] <th0r> Reaper: it is in xfce
[20:19] <Reaper> How about gnome?
[20:20] <oCean> good_pie: have you tried #kvm channel?
[20:20] <crazy2k> Any user of Shotwell + Picasa? I like having all my pictures in the same place ordered by date, and do tag them according to the trip or place. It seems Picasa organizes photos a bit different; you have to create albums. If I want to share all the pictures with a tag to Google+, I have to create an album with all those pictures and make it visible, right?
[20:21] <hilikus> reaper: alt-tab works
[20:21] <dli> blackcatnekonegr, also, try xset dpms force off
[20:21] <good_pie> oCean, not yet, that's my next stop
[20:21] <blackcatnekonegr> here is my problem http://pastebin.com/BYrQ4gCN and by the way I used goggle for 2 months and I hasent able to fix the problem.
[20:21] <Reaper> sorry, guess I should have tried before asking lol.. im an idiot today
[20:21] <Reaper> well more then usual I guess lol
[20:21] <oCean> good_pie: I understand what you want, but I have no answer :(
[20:23] <dli> blackcatnekonegr, pastebin: xset q
[20:24] <blackcatnekonegr> and sudo xset -dpms doesnt seem to do anything, nor does uninstalling  gnome power manager and screensaver stuff, the lcd monitor still turn off, must be built for windows system and there is a signal or something gnome/linux ubuntu does not sent to it.
[20:25] <blackcatnekonegr> here is my problem http://pastebin.com/BYrQ4gCN
[20:26] <good_pie> oCean, no problem, thanks for your response
[20:26] <dli> blackcatnekonegr, what about xset q
[20:27] <blackcatnekonegr> (17:26:44) dli: blackcatnekonegr, what about xset q --how I do that?
[20:27] <dli> blackcatnekonegr, run the command 'xset q' in terminal
[20:28] <blackcatnekonegr> ok I will sent you the pastebin in a minute
[20:29] <blackcatnekonegr> here, look at the end for the command results: http://pastebin.com/ALkvTe4b
[20:29] <dli> blackcatnekonegr, also, for sake of troubleshooting, remove the powermanager package you are running (gnome-powermanager)
[20:30] <r000t_nb> Is there a reason why 1GB in 584773 files takes longer to transfer than one 1GB file?
[20:30] <blackcatnekonegr> removing it doesnt do anything
[20:30] <r000t_nb> Between disks?
[20:30] <dli> blackcatnekonegr, so, DPMS is disabled
[20:30] <blackcatnekonegr> but I will if you want
[20:30] <julianrabe> hi
[20:30] <julianrabe> this is the fifth channel i hope i will get help on
[20:30] <wols> r000t_nb: yes. 584000 files have a LOT of metadata
[20:31] <frostschutz> r000t_nb: lots of overhead, lots of seeks
[20:31] <blackcatnekonegr> so, is there a lubuntu channel around?
[20:31] <r000t_nb> So it's the same as with HTTP transfer?
[20:31] <wols> !lubuntu
[20:31] <julianrabe> im trying to set up a .deb-repos, everything works, but the gpg-signing. am i right here?
[20:31] <dr_willis> blackcatnekonegr:  #lubuntu or here
[20:31] <blackcatnekonegr> ok
[20:31] <r000t_nb> Because Dropbox has a similar problem and I proposed that very small files are zipped into 10MB .tar files and sent that wat
[20:31] <frostschutz> r000t_nb: in http you'd have to make a separate request (and worst case even a new connection) for each file
[20:31] <blackcatnekonegr> cause I plan to install it in a netpc, but its not urgent
[20:32] <blackcatnekonegr> (17:29:49) dli: blackcatnekonegr, also, for sake of troubleshooting, remove the powermanager package you are running (gnome-powermanager)--program unistalled. now removing package
[20:33] <mang0> What's a trusty image host that's not going to go down? I need to use it as a header for my blog.
[20:33] <blackcatnekonegr> ehh, what are the packages names for gnome power manager in synaptic?
[20:33] <wols> mang0: 127.0.0.1
[20:34] <mang0> wols. Lol, but srsly.
[20:34] <r000t_nb> mang0, What's your blog host?
[20:34] <r000t_nb> mag0, Get a Dropbox account, and put the file in your Public folder
[20:34] <mang0> r000t_nb: oh
[20:34] <mang0> I've got dropbox
[20:34] <mang0> good idea
[20:34] <mang0> thanks
[20:34] <r000t_nb> yw
[20:34] <dli> blackcatnekonegr, gnome-power-manager
[20:34] <dr_willis> ubuntu one is handy :)
[20:35] <goodhumperdink> Quick Question: What version of Linux is Ubuntu 10.04.3 using?
[20:35] <blackcatnekonegr> (17:32:37) blackcatnekonegr: (17:29:49) dli: blackcatnekonegr, also, for sake of troubleshooting, remove the powermanager package you are running (gnome-powermanager)--program unistalled. now removing package--package removed
[20:35] <wols> goodhumperdink: packages.ubuntu.com is very knowledgeable about such things
[20:36] <POVaddct> goodhumperdink: 2.6.32
[20:36] <goodhumperdink> Thanks POVaddct :)
[20:36] <tck9> anyone here using apticron?
[20:36] <tck9> is it possible for it to report just security updates instead of all system updateS?
[20:36] <julianrabe> no idea of setting up .deb repositories?
[20:37] <blackcatnekonegr> So while I am at it, any text editor for linux that is good for writers? Cause I need a bit more than Openoffice or libreoffice, as my English just sucks
[20:37] <blackcatnekonegr> So, any more stuff I can do to focr my lcd minitor to be on until I turn it off?
[20:38] <wols> blackcatnekonegr: there are localizations for many many languages for *office...
[20:38] <SCATTERSHOT> hey anyone know any good links or anything to help me learn to customize my desktop
[20:38] <ikonia> !eyecandy | SCATTERSHOT
[20:38] <KWhat_Work> when installing a deb directly do you need to save the deb for installation as with rpm's ?
[20:38] <KWhat_Work> uninstllation *
[20:38] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, what gui do you use?
[20:38] <blackcatnekonegr> wols I need a text editor that helps to fix my awful english
[20:38] <mrdeb> KWhat_Work: yes or open
[20:38] <ikonia> KWhat_Work: you don't need to save the rpms to uninstall, you don't need to save the debs to uninstall
[20:38] <blackcatnekonegr> gnome  2.32.0
[20:38] <dli> blackcatnekonegr, remove all screensaver packages :(
[20:39] <SCATTERSHOT> k thnx
[20:39] <dli> blackcatnekonegr, I use lyx for typesetting, and vim for pure text
[20:39] <KWhat_Work> ikonia, mrdeb: thanks
[20:39] <SCATTERSHOT> i know i have to remove or do something with unity so where can i go to get like a wiki on it or something
[20:40] <blackcatnekonegr> I need a text editor with awesome grammar/spell checking
[20:40] <ThinkT510> !classic | SCATTERSHOT
[20:40] <coz_> blackcatnekonegr,  mm  focuswriter has an efficient spell checker,,  but y ou want just a text editor
[20:40] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, did you try system/prefernces/power management?
[20:41] <SCATTERSHOT> ok yeah i remember that much now that u mention it i seen on a youtube vid or something
[20:41] <blackcatnekonegr> ok, screensavers removed, any stuff you need me to pastebin to see if is fine now?
[20:41] <Gasseus> umm... I think I found a linux kernel memory corruption fault in the kernel version natty currently uses primarily. Where should I report it?
[20:41] <ThinkT510> !bug | Gasseus
[20:42] <blackcatnekonegr> (17:40:54) Benkinooby: blackcatnekonegr, did you try system/prefernces/power management?--that was the first thing I did, lcd monitor keep turing off, power manager removed
[20:43] <ThinkT510> blackcatnekonegr: you removed it? you're meant to change the settings
[20:43] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, do you have an other gui installed... just to see if it is gnome or the ubuntu system
[20:43] <blackcatnekonegr> someone here told me to remove it
[20:43] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, remove wahtß
[20:43] <Benkinooby> what?
[20:43] <fulluser> anyone can help me to enable DRI for my card
[20:43] <blackcatnekonegr> gnome power manager
[20:44] <coz_> !dri
[20:44] <dajxd> is it possible to make a bootable windows install in ubuntu with unetbootin?
[20:44] <predatore> Can anyone tell me why my KDE manager is gone after uninstalling compiz?
[20:44] <blackcatnekonegr> but even with "never" the lcd still turned off
[20:44] <fulluser> yes
[20:44] <fulluser> i mean that
[20:44] <blackcatnekonegr> so it is not a big deal
[20:44] <fulluser> it says on dri web site my card is supported
[20:45] <blackcatnekonegr> so, any stuff I should paste bin to check that my lcd wont turn off?
[20:45] <predatore> Is anyone available to help me with a quick UI problem?
[20:45] <sw0rdfish> hey guys....I have mysql server that probably got installed while installing lamp...and I can't access it
[20:46] <blackcatnekonegr> http://pastebin.com/bh5z6eM1
[20:47] <fulluser> but chacked the xorg logs and it says AIGLX: screen doesnt support DRI
[20:47] <thauriswulfa> HELP:touchpad scroll bar not working tried installing  synaptic dkms package but its not working
[20:47] <ThinkT510> predatore: what do you mean by kde manager? kdm or kwin?
[20:47] <fulluser> an the it loads the software rasterizer
[20:47] <ewook> sw0rdfish: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html
[20:47] <fulluser> how i can fix it , to get 3d acceleration
[20:48] <predatore> @ThinkT510 All I currently can see is the box the windows are in: I have no menu, no sidebar, no title bars to move windows with.. its all gone. Can't even use CTRL+ALT+T to open terminal =\
[20:48] <predatore> It happened after I uninstalled Compiz package.
[20:48] <ThinkT510> predatore: you need to launch kwin
[20:49] <ThinkT510> predatore: kwin --replace
[20:49] <predatore> How do I open terminal?
[20:49] <coz_> predatore, ctrlalt+t
[20:50] <coz_> predatore,   ctrl+alt+t
[20:50] <predatore> its not doing anything =\
[20:50] <fulluser> r> Hi
 How i can get Dri to wok my card
 it is supported
 but AIGLX fails and loads the software resterizer
[20:50] <FloodBot1> fulluser: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:50] <coz_> predatore,  are you on Unity?
[20:50] <coz_> predatore,  click the symbol in upper left corner,, type in terminal
[20:50] <predatore> I'm on a background with windows without title bars no menu and no side bar. there is nothing, only happened to get here by right clicking desktop and clicking help which opened web browser.
[20:51] <ThinkT510> coz_: he is in kde and just uninstalled compiz
[20:51] <coz_> oh!
[20:51] <predatore> Yeah... Thats right :) Now what.. lol
[20:51] <coz_> predatore, ` do you still have the kde menus?
[20:52] <predatore> Sorry, no I guess that is not accurate. I do not see any window management at all. Just the windows themselves.
[20:52] <predatore> No menu bar nothing...
[20:52] <coz_> predatore, what about alt+F2
[20:52] <BunnyFooFoo> does anyone know how to force a program to use a specific network interface?
[20:52] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, did you skim thourgh dmesg?
[20:53] <predatore> Alf F2 does nothing either.
[20:53] <arpad2> I'm having some broken dependencies , can smb help me with this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/654737/
[20:53] <blackcatnekonegr> (17:52:46) Benkinooby: blackcatnekonegr, did you skim thourgh dmesg?v--ehhh what?
[20:53] <predatore> I guess it was Unity that I was in after I uninstalled Compiz but after I restarted (because it wasn't acting right) it came back booted up with nothing...
[20:53] <coz_> predatore,  then I am definitly puzzled,, did you reboot already?
[20:53] <predatore> Yeah, 1st time.
[20:53]  * fulluser needs HELP , asked a question but got ignored
[20:53] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, open a terminal, type 'dmesg' an see if there is something about pwer saving or stuff like that
[20:53] <astraljava> fulluser: Have you tried Additional drivers in System | Administration?
[20:54] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, best thing is, if you let your monitor to get turned off automatically and then check dmesg
[20:54] <fulluser> MY driver is detected and loaded
[20:54] <blackcatnekonegr> mmm
[20:54] <fulluser> but software rendering is used
[20:54] <blackcatnekonegr> I DO NOT WANT MY MONITOR TO TURN OFF ON ITS OWN!
[20:54] <blackcatnekonegr> Sorry, I kind of snapped
[20:55] <Benkinooby> never mind
[20:55] <predatore> I guess i'll try to restart again :) Thanks for trying. I'll probably be back...lol
[20:55] <astraljava> fulluser: Okay, can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log, /etc/X11/xorg.conf (if any)?
[20:55] <fulluser> instead of dri - DRM
[20:55] <fulluser> ok
[20:55] <blackcatnekonegr> want the paste bin of the dmesg stuff?
[20:55] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, yes
[20:55] <predatore> maybe try to select a window management system on startup to see if its not completely gone or uselected or something, I'm not sure, dont' know too much about this stuff :)
[20:55] <astraljava> fulluser: And please, please, have patience. This is a busy channel, with not nearly enough helpers to help-needing ratio.
[20:55] <predatore> lol hard reset, no buttons =\
[20:56] <predatore> Help fulluser, he seems lost too
[20:56] <frankbro> Where should I look to get support for a touchscreen such as 2 finger scrolling, hold finger right click and virtual keyboard on text areas?
[20:57] <JohnnyFive> Hello, i'm having an issue with Natty. I installed it, and when it boots it goes to a black screen, no prompt. I can SSH into the box and run commands, but the actual box shows nothing. Originally it showed just a blinking cursor, so in SSH I tried "update-grub2" and now i'm at a completely blank screen. ANy thoughts?
[20:58] <ewook> JohnnyFive: if ssh is on, you're way passed grub.
[20:58] <felipe_Brz> What do I have to do to enable a user I've just created to run 'mkdir' and 'rm' even outside of his 'home' folder?
[20:58] <sw0rdfish> ewook, woops just saw that, ok thanks I will read it :D
[20:58] <ewook> JohnnyFive: sounds more like general gfx issues. tried altering terminal?
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> felipe_Brz: it needs to be a member of the admin group so it can use sudo
[20:58] <ewook> sw0rdfish: lol. just tried to scroll to see if you responded :p.
[20:58] <JohnnyFive> ewook, altering? as in switching to another terminal?
[20:58] <sw0rdfish> hehe :D
[20:59] <sw0rdfish> it says if you've never set a pass it should work let me try that
[20:59] <felipe_Brz> ActionParsnip:  admin group? Not 'sudo' group?
[20:59] <ewook> JohnnyFive: yes. alt+fX will do that for you.
[20:59] <JohnnyFive> ewook, duh. That worked. Weird. Any idea why it would just boot into a blank screen like that?
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> felipe_Brz: no, in ubuntu its the admin group
[20:59] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, did i miss the link?
[20:59] <ewook> JohnnyFive: sounds like X11 issues, and I'm no good with X11 :(
[20:59] <sw0rdfish> ewook, it says if you've never set a pass it should work let me try that
[20:59] <felipe_Brz> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[20:59] <sw0rdfish> ewook, ERROR 1045 (28000) after doing that ^^
[20:59] <ewook> sw0rdfish: oh.
[20:59] <JohnnyFive> ewook, yep, ok ty sir!
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> felipe_Brz: if you su to a user who can use sudo and run:  groups    you will see
[20:59] <ewook> sw0rdfish: *_* wow.
[20:59] <ewook> JohnnyFive: np!
[21:00] <blackcatnekonegr> http://pastebin.com/H6cSpa2q
[21:00] <blackcatnekonegr> there
[21:00] <sw0rdfish> so I guess I'll just "reset" a new password, the thing is I don't remember setting a password but maybe I once did....oh well who cares I'm just trying to make my very first php project :D
[21:00] <ewook> JohnnyFive: there's plenty of others more involved with X11 than me, so simply re-construct your question later on.
[21:00] <BunnyFooFoo> does anyone know how to force a program to use a specific network interface? e.g. force telnet to use eth1 instead of eth0
[21:00] <JohnnyFive> ewook, well you pointed me in the right direction, I think I know what's up now.
[21:00] <ministerdude> Any way to revert back to default? Now my whole computer isn't recognizing usb or my thumb drive
[21:00] <ewook> sw0rdfish: did you try to do a simple mysql -u root (while having a root shell) ?
[21:01] <blackcatnekonegr> (17:59:26) Benkinooby: blackcatnekonegr, did i miss the link? (18:00:06) blackcatnekonegr: http://pastebin.com/H6cSpa2q
[21:01] <ewook> JohnnyFive: great :)
[21:01] <blackcatnekonegr> it was just a lot of text
[21:01] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, got it... looking at it
[21:01] <ewook> sw0rdfish: and does it prompt you for a password?
[21:01] <felipe_Brz> ActionParsnip: The thing is that I'm using Filezilla, and I need to login as a user who can do these things I told you, but it can't be the root because Filezilla doesn't allow it.  I'm not sure whether the filezilla client will know it must type in 'sudo' every time it need to create a directoty or something like that
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> sw0rdfish: if you are resetting your SQL password you can use this: http://brainextender.blogspot.com/2008/08/reset-mysql-superuseradministratorroot.html
[21:02] <Predatore> Well that didn't work.
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> felipe_Brz: then you will need to change the file ownerships etc so that the user has the right amount of access
[21:02] <blackcatnekonegr> yeah
[21:03] <Predatore> I think I uninstalled the UI. Is there a command line at boot that will reinstall the UNITY thing?
[21:03] <blackcatnekonegr> just set that folder and everything in it to be owned by the user
[21:03] <ewook> Predatore: do a apt-search show ubuntu-desktop
[21:03] <Predatore> Because right now I cannot open anything that isn't already created for me by either right click or menu from a program.
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> Predatore: sudo apt-get install unity
[21:03] <fulluser> Ok
[21:03] <Predatore> I can't get to terminal
[21:03] <Predatore> Unless terminal is a file.
[21:04] <Predatore> ...
[21:04] <astraljava> Predatore: `sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop`, or kubuntu-desktop if you want KDE
[21:04] <ewook> Predatore: if it shows something, you could simply run apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[21:04] <blackcatnekonegr> use the terminal emulator
[21:04] <ewook> astraljava: thanks, forgot the --reinstall
[21:04] <felipe_Brz> ActionParsnip: thank you
[21:04]  * fulluser has posted th logs about the problem with the video card
[21:04] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, do you use experimental video drivers?
[21:04] <Predatore> Gahh I cant get to terminal. Shortcuts dont work. Dont know where else to look to start it
[21:04] <ewook> sw0rdfish: and the --reinstall goes for you too (aptitude --reinstall mysql)
[21:05] <astraljava> fulluser: Mind sharing the link here, please?
[21:05] <ewook> sw0rdfish: wish me luck, migrating my mysql now ;)
[21:05] <TameableExpert_> hey, anyone here familiar with RANCID?
[21:05] <blackcatnekonegr> "(18:04:28) Benkinooby: blackcatnekonegr, do you use experimental video drivers?" I use nvidia driver,  in linux its almost the same as that O_-
[21:05] <fulluser> Xorg.0.log : http://pastebin.com/m46Ly4ct
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> TameableExpert_: the band?
[21:06] <felipe_Brz> Predatore: that happened to me once. If you boot into recovery mode there's an option to start ubuntu with the most basic graphics, then you can reset unity I guess
[21:06] <blackcatnekonegr> that thing has just beenache after headache
[21:06] <astraljava> ewook: For aptitude, you won't need --, it's just `sudo aptitude reinstall <package>`
[21:06] <blackcatnekonegr> *headache
[21:06] <Predatore> How to boot into recovery mode?
[21:06] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, so you use the ones offered in the ubunut standard repos?
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> astraljava: aptitude isn't in a default installl nowadays
[21:06] <fulluser> astraljava http://pastebin.com/m46Ly4ct
[21:06] <TameableExpert_> ActionParsnip: No. Really Awesome Cisco confIg Differ
[21:06] <blackcatnekonegr> (18:06:20) Benkinooby: blackcatnekonegr, so you use the ones offered in the ubunut standard repos?---does this have to do with my lcd turning off?
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> Predatore: hold shift at boot, select recovery mode, select netroot
[21:06] <felipe_Brz> Predatore:  for me, I can choose between recovery mode and normal mode at boot time
[21:06] <ewook> astraljava: oh. not used to aptitude, thanks mate.
[21:06] <Predatore> thank you.
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> TameableExpert_: I see
[21:07] <TameableExpert_> It monitors network devices
[21:07] <Predatore> Thanks again
[21:07] <fulluser> http://pastebin.com/m46Ly4ct
[21:07] <sw0rdfish> ewook, ActionParsnip thanks guys....well forgive me I'm heating dinner so I couldn't respond faster
[21:07] <blackcatnekonegr> Cauyse every time I try anything with nvidia driver its just a pain in the ass. So I really dont want to mess with that, it already screwed flash.
[21:07] <niles|iPod> happy sysadminday!
[21:08] <niles|iPod> http://t.co/y9TbCqb
[21:08] <sw0rdfish> ewook, but yeah I only tried doing sudo mysql -u root
[21:08] <ministerdude> Ubuntu now not recognizing usb
[21:08] <sw0rdfish> ewook, should I su into sudo first
[21:08] <TameableExpert_> YAY! Sisadminday!
[21:08] <TameableExpert_> thats me!
[21:08] <ewook> sw0rdfish: it's 23:07 here, so dinner sounds late ;). sudo su is an easier solution
[21:08] <ewook> TameableExpert_: my condolances.
[21:08] <TameableExpert_> lols
[21:08] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, you don't need to repeat my question... just put my name to your answer so that it gets highlited for me... the point is: if you use the ones from the standard ubuntu repos they are well tested and don't have bugs. if you use some bleeding-edge software, dowloaded from a ppa or even compiled yourself, you are on your own, because it is not standard and therfore the source of errors could be everywhere
[21:08] <sw0rdfish> ewook, dude its 23:08 here too lol
[21:09] <sw0rdfish> ewook, I'm working out so I need my proteins can't skip dinner just cuz tis late :P
[21:09] <ewook> sw0rdfish: Italians... :p.
[21:09] <blackcatnekonegr> both type od drivers have screwed me
[21:09] <blackcatnekonegr> but again
[21:09] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, they might have bugs, but people might know about them if they come from the standard repo
[21:09] <blackcatnekonegr> does that have to do anything with my lcd turning off?¿
[21:10]  * fulluser needs help
[21:10] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, could be...
[21:10] <blackcatnekonegr> well
[21:10]  * fulluser problem logs : http://pastebin.com/m46Ly4ct
[21:10] <RenatoSilva> what's the shortcut for the command executor (like win's start > exec)?
[21:10] <astraljava> ActionParsnip: I know, but ewook referred to it. Just thought I'd lend a hand if someone used it.
[21:10] <ewook> fulluser: stop saying you need help, and post your question instead.
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> astraljava: thats cool. was just a friendly fyi ;)
[21:10] <blackcatnekonegr> NVIDIA Driver Version: 260.19.06
[21:10] <guntbert> ewook: sw0rdfish: if you *really* need a root shell use sudo -i to get it (not sudo su), and don't forget to leave it a soon as possible
[21:11] <Deithrian> Is there a libxine1 with vdpau support somewhere?
[21:11] <blackcatnekonegr> every time I try to change the NVIDIA Driver I get in a world of pain
[21:11] <astraljava> fulluser: Did you pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf somewhere?
[21:11] <fulluser> how i get direct rendering to work (Dri - DRM) instead of mesa software rasterizer
[21:11] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, why i am asking about the driver is because your dmesg log show a big amount of nvidia driver problems...
[21:11] <astraljava> ActionParsnip: No worries, totally understood. :)
[21:11] <fulluser> i missed it
[21:11] <fulluser> wait a sec
[21:11] <fulluser> sorry
[21:12] <astraljava> fulluser: Not a prob. Just that the log wasn't really helpful, need more info.
[21:12] <blackcatnekonegr> well, I have tried every driver ubuntu has and the one NVIDIA have,
[21:12] <ewook> guntbert: the -i simply gives you a false shell, and not really to be recommended in all cases.
[21:12] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, you said the monitor even turns off in console mode... please go to console mode and type "ps -A" and paste the output
[21:12] <blackcatnekonegr> if you know one that wonty crash my pc I would really be happy
[21:12] <sw0rdfish> ewook, ci mi amora
[21:12] <ewook> guntbert: sudo is not one of my favorite solutions..
[21:12] <guntbert> ewook: not true, it is the one where the environment is set in a sane way
[21:12] <ewook> sw0rdfish: haha :p.
[21:12] <blackcatnekonegr> I cant copy paste in terminal mode
[21:13] <ewook> guntbert: sudo isn't sane to begin with :p.
[21:13] <blackcatnekonegr> in the real terminal mode I mean
[21:13] <astraljava> blackcatnekonegr: You can `ps -A | pastebinit`, I presume. It should give you a link to the created entry.
[21:13] <ewook> blackcatnekonegr: add an > filename to the command, and you'll get the output into a file instead.
[21:14] <guntbert> ewook: thats not true either but we are getting off topic discussing "sanity-values" - so lets drop it :)
[21:14] <ewook> astraljava: oh, pastebinit? sweet :p.
[21:14] <ewook> guntbert: I hear ya ;)
[21:14] <sw0rdfish> oh crap I forgot my root passwd anyways
[21:14] <Benkinooby> pastebinit is the best! i even have a script to do that with images :D
[21:14] <RenatoSilva> alt+f2 is not calling run app, help please
[21:14] <riddler> What is the name of the screen or what is it called where it shows up when you turn on the computer before the GRUB2 screen?
[21:14] <astraljava> ewook: Stuck around the channel for a while, learnt cool new tricks. :) Way clever.
[21:14] <skiy1337> Would anyone like to try out my program?
[21:14] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, ok, for now, jsut do "ps -A" and paste it plz
[21:14] <ewook> astraljava: been away for awhile, so thanks for the new info - much appriciated!
[21:15] <blackcatnekonegr> anyway, if you are saying  NVIDIA Driver is the problem, anything I have tried with that thing just gave me more problems
[21:15] <RenatoSilva> my bottom-left button to minimize all windows disappeared out of nothing, help
[21:15] <astraljava> !ot | skiy1337
[21:15] <felipe_Brz> Is there a 'default' FTP Server software for Ubuntu?
[21:15] <ewook> felipe_Brz: in my time it was proftpd
[21:15] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, it was just a possibility... please paste the output of "ps -A"
[21:15] <astraljava> !ftpd > felipe_Brz
[21:15] <BunnyFooFoo> Benkinooby: tell him to use pastebin for ps -A
[21:16] <blackcatnekonegr> http://pastebin.com/4vtQzRuQ
[21:16] <guntbert> sw0rdfish: did you really set one? (it is never needed)
[21:16] <fulluser> http://pastebin.com/bPb98HzN
[21:16] <blackcatnekonegr> trust me, NVIDIA is just awful in linux
[21:16] <fulluser> Xorg.confg
[21:17] <fulluser> http://pastebin.com/bPb98HzN
[21:17] <fulluser> Xorg.cong
[21:17] <coz_> conf
[21:17] <sw0rdfish> guntbert, if you're refering to my mysql well I've never used it before
[21:17] <sw0rdfish> so well I didn't set a passwd
[21:17] <bakarat> i have a friend who has ubuntu and after installation he boots up, but the pc always hangs; if he presses the power button, it resumes booting, any clues what it can be?
[21:18] <abatoo> /w 7
[21:18] <astraljava> blackcatnekonegr: After trying to use ATi proprietary on linux, nVidia is bliss.
[21:18] <guntbert> sw0rdfish: no, I was referring to your statement 4 minutes ago (...forgot...)
[21:18] <sw0rdfish> oh guntbert yes I did set a root passwd before
[21:18] <blackcatnekonegr> ok
[21:19] <blackcatnekonegr> then how come
[21:19] <sw0rdfish> and I think I've forgotten it before too lol, and now it seems I even forgot how to reset it
[21:19] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, it seems your gnome power manager is not running... so it's not a gnome thing
[21:19] <blackcatnekonegr> everyone has problems with NVIDIA in linux?
[21:19] <sw0rdfish> I think, "passwd root" should reset it for me
[21:19] <guntbert> sw0rdfish: reboot into recovery mode, get a root shell
[21:20] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, btw, does your monitor (hardware) have some kind of power save function?
[21:20] <blackcatnekonegr> ok I will try to use driver 96, once my pc crashes. I will use safeboot and see you guys again
[21:20] <blackcatnekonegr> its a lcd
[21:20] <Utopiah> hi #ubuntu
[21:20] <ThinkT510> Benkinooby: he removed gnome power manager, thats why it isn't running
[21:20] <RenatoSilva> my bottom-left button to minimize all windows disappeared out of nothing, help
[21:20] <RenatoSilva> alt+f2 is not calling run app, help please
[21:20] <guntbert> sw0rdfish: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Re-disabling your root account
[21:20] <fulluser> @astraljava http://pastebin.com/bPb98HzN
[21:20] <blackcatnekonegr> a generic lcd
[21:20] <Benkinooby> ThinkT510, ok, thx
[21:21] <Utopiah> is there an utility that checks via the webbcam a user posture to make sure his back is well positionned?
[21:21] <blackcatnekonegr> unless I cheat it to think I am doing stuff it turns off
[21:21] <sw0rdfish> why thank you Gunirus
[21:21] <sw0rdfish> guntbert,
[21:21] <guntbert> sw0rdfish: you're welcome :-)
[21:21] <blackcatnekonegr> and if I could make it to not turn off just pessing a button in the lcd, I would have done it ages ago
[21:23] <astraljava> fulluser: Thanks. I did some research, and it seems this card really doesn't wanna work with direct rendering enabled. :( I'll keep reading, though.
[21:23] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, do you use a lpatop?
[21:23] <blackcatnekonegr> noooo I dont
[21:23] <blackcatnekonegr> the lcd is just damn generic!
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> why do people insist on messing with root accounts, its so frustrating :(
[21:24] <astraljava> blackcatnekonegr: Not everyone. I have used at least three different nVidia cards without any problems whatsoever on ubuntu.
[21:24] <blackcatnekonegr> its a "AOC" or something
[21:25] <blackcatnekonegr> ok gonna reset
[21:26] <Benkinooby> dude that <blackcatnekonegr> was in a bad mood
[21:27] <fulluser> ok
[21:27] <ThinkT510> Benkinooby: it doesn't help that he doesn't know what he is doing
[21:27] <fulluser> thanks astral java
[21:27] <blackcatnekonegr> okm I canged the video driver and things just got worse
[21:27] <fulluser> if you find something please let me know
[21:27] <blackcatnekonegr> I knew it was going to happen
[21:27] <blackcatnekonegr> happy now?
[21:28] <astraljava> blackcatnekonegr: I haven't followed your whole episode, what did you change to, and how is it worse now?
[21:29] <blackcatnekonegr>  NVIDIA linux driver 96
[21:29] <blackcatnekonegr> crashed my pc
[21:29] <astraljava> fulluser: Sure, just stick around a while, and if you won't hear anything from me, try http://askubuntu.com, http://ubuntuforums.org, and ask again in a few hours (just in case someone who knows about the issue appears.)
[21:29] <Benkinooby> astraljava, his monitor blanks out ever 5 min or so, without him wanting that... he tried to set the right settings in the power managemnt but didnt help. then he disabled the power manager... but still. even if he is in console mode it blanks
[21:29] <blackcatnekonegr> ubuntu running in low screen resolution now
[21:30] <blackcatnekonegr> as I said  NVIDIA  sucks on linux
[21:30] <coz_> o0
[21:30] <BluesKaj> blackcatnekonegr, depends which nvidia
[21:30] <blackcatnekonegr> now gonna try the other two "proved by ubuntu staff" drivers just you are happy
[21:30] <coz_> blackcatnekonegr,  that is all I use here  is nvidia
[21:30] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, open a terminal and type "jockey-gtk"
[21:30] <al_nz1> ActionParsnip: you there?
[21:30] <ThinkT510> blackcatnekonegr: that isn't my experience, nvidia has always been good for me
[21:31] <blackcatnekonegr> why botter? I still have other two drivers to try
[21:31] <ThinkT510> blackcatnekonegr: do you want help or not?
[21:31] <blackcatnekonegr> fineee
[21:31] <cosgroveb> what is the best way to trim down my ubuntu installation? i am running out of space on my 5GB disk
[21:32] <astraljava> blackcatnekonegr: Could this possibly help? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/how-to-disable-screen-blanking-in-x-175011/#post981129
[21:32] <ikonia> cosgroveb: remove packages
[21:32] <coz_> cosgroveb,  remove a few applications.. dont download videos,,, save spareingly
[21:32] <ThinkT510> cosgroveb: 5gb is a little restrictive
[21:32] <cosgroveb> ikonia: i've removed office, firefox, and a few others... not sure what else to remove
[21:32] <coz_> cosgroveb,  anything you want to save,, put onto external or cd
[21:32] <ikonia> cosgroveb: your data now
[21:32] <rww> cosgroveb: try sudo apt-get clean
[21:33] <ikonia> cosgroveb: an ubuntu install is about 2GB in size, so what ever is left is your data
[21:33] <Benkinooby> astraljava, hm... i don'T think... he said that even in console mode it blanks...and in console ther is no X running
[21:33] <cosgroveb> all my data is on external usb
[21:33] <bakarat> i have a friend who has ubuntu and after installation he boots up, but the pc always hangs; if he presses the power button, it resumes booting, any clues what it can be?
[21:33] <cosgroveb> rww: i will do a sudo apt-get clean
[21:33] <blackcatnekonegr> anyway. Still got two more drivers to try, to prove how well "Ubuntu staff tested  drivers" have worked for me
[21:34] <astraljava> Benkinooby: Yes, but is X still running even he's _in_ console?
[21:34] <ThinkT510> !attitude | blackcatnekonegr
[21:34] <blackcatnekonegr> sorry
[21:34] <blackcatnekonegr> but havent had this problem for months
[21:34] <cosgroveb> thanks for the sugestions
[21:34] <blackcatnekonegr> *have
[21:34] <nocilis> i was here a couple days ago and I was having an issue then, and it has not resolved: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/universe/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.170 80]
[21:34] <al_nz1> astraljava: hey man
[21:34] <sw0rdfish> ActionParsnip, ewook, if I use --skip-grant-tables ....it wont require authentication by users as long as mysqld is running right? so if I restart mysqld that should solve the problem then? :D
[21:34] <astraljava> al_nz1: Hi.
[21:34] <nocilis> i get that message upon running sudo apt-get update
[21:35] <tiago> i get this message whenever i try to ssh Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive) , any ideas why?
[21:35] <tiago> or how to solve this
[21:35] <al_nz1> astraljava: take a look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDM39Vo8Z0M when you get a chance
[21:35] <al_nz1> astraljava: my tutporial
[21:35] <blackcatnekonegr> you need to use an account with administrator privileges
[21:35] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, so are you trying that jockey thing?
[21:35] <blackcatnekonegr> yeah
[21:35] <astraljava> nocilis: Could be that the US mirror is down momentarily. Try switching to something else?
[21:35] <nocilis> any ideas anyone?
[21:35] <blackcatnekonegr> just saw the two drivers
[21:36] <nocilis> astraljava how?
[21:36] <blackcatnekonegr> the one I used before that works so so and the 95 that does not work
[21:36] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, ah ok... if you have allready tested those drivers never mind
[21:36] <astraljava> al_nz1: Alright, but in the meantime, use #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support issues.
[21:36] <blackcatnekonegr> I am installing a few more to try
[21:36] <al_nz1> astraljava: its a ubuntu based video!
[21:36] <blackcatnekonegr> and see what happens
[21:36] <blackcatnekonegr> *96
[21:37] <SCATTERSHOT> whoever sent me that list of links could u send it once more
[21:37] <blackcatnekonegr>  tiago, you need to use an account with administrator privileges
[21:37] <astraljava> nocilis: You can edit /etc/apt/sources.list, and switch some other country code instead of us., or just leave it out completely.
[21:37] <nocilis> i'll try that astraljava
[21:37] <tiago> blackcatnekonegr: my account was working, and now isn't
[21:37] <astraljava> al_nz1: I understand, but this is a support channel. That is off-topic here.
[21:37] <tiago> that means they remove privileges?
[21:37] <al_nz1> astraljava: i see
[21:37] <tiago> removed
[21:38] <blackcatnekonegr> well, try with "users and groups" check to see the rights your account has
[21:38] <tiago> blackcatnekonegr: how can i check that?
[21:38] <astraljava> al_nz1: But yeah, you could post a link on the forums to it, it should help some people. Thanks for contributing!
[21:38] <blackcatnekonegr> System / Admistracion/ users and groups
[21:39] <al_nz1> good idea - quite a tricky procedure - took me a while to work it out
[21:39] <sergio232> join ubuntu-es
[21:39] <tiago> blackcatnekonegr: this is in a server, if I don't have access to it
[21:39] <blackcatnekonegr> as a general rule, is a bad idea to use an adm account as default
[21:40] <tiago> how am i supposed to see that
[21:40] <blackcatnekonegr> ah ok
[21:40] <blackcatnekonegr> then try running as root
[21:40] <chilversc> is there an option for ncal to display in the same format as cal?
[21:40] <blackcatnekonegr> and try that command you wanted to do again
[21:40] <blackcatnekonegr> otherwise try to run another acount, an adm one
[21:40] <nocilis> astraljava which lines should I remove?
[21:41] <tiago> this is the only account associated with the server
[21:41] <blackcatnekonegr> well
[21:41] <astraljava> chilversc: -C ?
[21:41] <tiago> how can i reset all ssh related stuff?
[21:41] <chilversc> ah, thanks
[21:41] <blackcatnekonegr> try to reboot and run as root
[21:42] <chilversc> manpages.ubuntu must be out of date
[21:42] <astraljava> nocilis: Don't remove any lines, just remove the characters 'u', 's' and '.' in front of archive.ubuntu.com
[21:42] <monokrome> Hey. Does anyone know of decent software for managing an iPhone?
[21:42] <astraljava> chilversc: That was to be found on 11.04, what are you using?
[21:42] <milk> can i setup my sound so that input is also played as output at the same time?
[21:43] <jrib> milk: probably just unmute your microphone in alsamixer
[21:43] <Georges> hi
[21:43] <chilversc> astraljava: latest, but I was looking at http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/cal.1.html
[21:43] <astraljava> chilversc: Ahh... I used terminal.
[21:43] <Gino> hi
[21:43] <milk> jrib: mic is unmuted, not working
[21:43] <nocilis> astraljava on it
[21:44] <astraljava> chilversc: Yeah, that's for lucid. Might not be there, although might be that the pages are outdated, no idea about that service.
[21:44] <milk> i can record sound and play it back but not both at the same time
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> milk: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[21:44] <chilversc> astraljava: ah, didn't know lucid was a version name
[21:45] <chilversc> astraljava: so you can just click the version numbers at the top to change :)
[21:45] <chilversc> astraljava: have to say, the current selection could be made a little more obvious
[21:45] <blackcatnekonegr> back, I just havent found a driver that works well with my video card minus the 260 one, and I still get many bugs
[21:45] <astraljava> chilversc: Right, yeah. lucid is the nickname for 10.04. Current latest stable, 11.04, is called natty.
[21:45] <chilversc> yup, if 10.04 had a big highlight around it I'd have noticed right away
[21:46] <pompy_> After the upgrade to 11.04 my laptop does not have WLAN anymore. I found some forum posrt
[21:46] <pompy_> and did a sudo apt-get remove --purge bcmwl-kernel-source
[21:47] <pompy_> but that did not fix it.
[21:47] <blackcatnekonegr> anyway, now I am gonna let my lcd on and alone for a while and see if it turns off
[21:47] <pompy_> I don't have the WLAN symbol in th e
[21:47] <pompy_> panel
[21:47] <pompy_> Any idea?
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> pompy_: is it a broadcom 43xx ?
[21:47] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, good... report back if you have news
[21:47] <milk> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=51cf803b3a756cca986d304d36788719b9c100c8
[21:47] <blackcatnekonegr> ok
[21:47] <pompy_> ActionParsnip: I am not sure.
[21:48] <pompy_> I had the exact same problem with an identical laptop (Extensa 5220) and was able to fix it a few months ago.
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> pompy_: sudo lshw -C network    will say
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> milk: add: options snd-hda-intel model=thinkpad     to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf      reboot to test, may help
[21:50] <milk> ActionParsnip will try thanks
[21:51] <nocilis> astraljava it worked! thanks so much!
[21:51] <pompy_> ActionParsnip: I did that command. Now what info do you need?
[21:52] <astraljava> nocilis: Cool, you can check the US mirror later, if it used to be faster or anything.
[21:52] <Bigbucks> How do I remove the GRUB bootloader?
[21:52] <nocilis> astraljava nah, i just needed a couple packages
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> pompy_: what is the product line of the wireless device?
[21:52] <jamesrrkkjjssf> why would you want to remove GRUB
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> Bigbucks: install a different loader over the top of it
[21:53] <pompy_> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/dyy2dcU3
[21:53] <Bigbucks> Well, I want to use the Windows bootloader, because I am dualbooting, but I do not have a windows recovery dick.
[21:53] <Bigbucks> disk*
[21:54] <Bigbucks> I would actually like to set up EasyBCD as the menu to choose what you want to boot, rather than using GRUB
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> pompy_: BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN   so yes it is
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | pompy_
[21:55] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, hey, do you have a file /etc/console-tools/config ?
[21:55] <bl4ckcomb`> hi, when I install ubuntu server it picks /dev/sda for the MBR to use with grub-install, but I want it to use /dev/sdc. Is there a way to do this during the installation? I've tried the shell, but it doesn't recognize 'grub-install'
[21:55] <mang0> Good night all. :)
[21:55] <wildbat> Bigbucks: Windows Bootloader won't boot linux , you need grub ,lilo etc....
[21:56] <wols> bl4ckcomb`: have you checked the installation you just created for it?
[21:56] <Benkinooby> why do i need privilegs to get to that site ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=299065
[21:56] <Bigbucks> I want to get rid of the GRUB menu when I turn on my computer.
[21:56] <milk> ActionParsnip: tried, didnt work
[21:56] <bl4ckcomb`> wols, you mean the installation disk?
[21:56] <wols> bl4ckcomb`: no, I mean the install you just created
[21:57] <jamesrrkkjjssf> does anybody know where I can edit ubuntus services via terminal?
[21:57] <bl4ckcomb`> wols, where do I look for it?
[21:57] <wols> bl4ckcomb`: on your harddisk presumably?
[21:57] <riddler> !grub2
[21:57] <astraljava> Benkinooby: It's ancient, they've turned it read-only.
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> milk: try:  model=lenovo    instead
[21:57] <milk> ActionParsnip ok
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> milk: you just need the line which makes your sound work
[21:58] <Bigbucks> I didnt LOOSE GRUB, I WANT to loose GRUB
[21:58] <wildbat> Bigbucks: you can have windows boot loader to chainload grub then read up be4 you do that
[21:58] <bl4ckcomb`> wols, sorry, but 'install'... is that a file or what do I look for?
[21:58] <Benkinooby> astraljava, ok... i only want to read it : but if it is outdated, i don't want to see it anymore ... thx
[21:58] <wols> bl4ckcomb`: you just installed ubuntu. that is the installation of ubuntu you just created. and it has a grub-install file
[21:59] <Bigbucks> wildbat: How can I install GRUB on the Ubuntu partition, so I can just remove everything, without having grub or ubnutu on my harddrive
[22:00] <bl4ckcomb`> wols, ah ok, I'll check it (btw, I'm still in the installation process, where grub isn't installed yet, if that matters)
[22:00] <ch3m1c4l> hi everybody!
[22:00] <wols> bl4ckcomb`: then wait until it's finished
[22:00] <nit-wit> ch3m1c4l, howdeee
[22:01] <bl4ckcomb`> wols, it can't install grub on /dev/sda/
[22:01] <jamesrrkkjjssf> does anybody know where I can edit ubuntus services via terminal.
[22:01] <milk> ActionParsnip: no joy
[22:01] <ch3m1c4l> Does anyone know of a good irc network, or channel that is good to hang in for pentesters?
[22:01] <wildbat> Bigbucks: do you have two harddrive one for ubuntu one for win??
[22:01] <Bigbucks> wildbat: I have seperate partitions
[22:01] <wols> bl4ckcomb`: then just don't install it (might need the alternate installer possibly)
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> milk: ok delete the line and reboot, make sure the correct devices are set in sound options for both input and output
[22:02] <bl4ckcomb`> wols, ok, when I finish the installation without grub, how should I add it later? via a live cd?
[22:02] <milk> ActionParsnip: in the sound devices it only has one device option for each input and output
[22:02] <wildbat> Bigbucks: that's not a good idea but you can grub-install /dev/sdXY to install in partition
[22:03] <astraljava> jamesrrkkjjssf: You're gonna have to be more specific. What services, and edit in what way?
[22:03] <raluxgaza> So I am running ubuntu minimal with irssi, boy does it feel strange
[22:03] <Bigbucks> wildbat: Then what do I do to get rid of Ubuntu AND GRUB?
[22:03] <astraljava> raluxgaza: Join the club.
[22:04] <jamesrrkkjjssf> I want to add a arg to a service. I start it up with the service command
[22:04] <raluxgaza> astraljava: thanks
[22:04] <raluxgaza> I do have a problem I keep getting into "grub rescue" and I have to manually load. I have tried repiring but still no luck
[22:05] <milk> rebooting
[22:05] <wildbat> Bigbucks: you don't "get rid of it" you install windows' one so it overwritten the MBR so it boot with windows' one
[22:05] <cos_> Is there anyone free to help with a problem I've been having? It's driving me crazy.
[22:05] <astraljava> jamesrrkkjjssf: You're probably thinking of the ones in /etc/init.d/
[22:07] <cos_> It has to do with changing the chost of the computer
[22:07] <cos_> host*
[22:07] <Bigbucks> wildbat: Like I said before, I DONT have a windows recovery CD to do this with.
[22:07] <cos_> I'm pretty sure I screwed myself.
[22:07] <astraljava> raluxgaza: Don't really know that much about grub, so if you won't get help from here at this moment, I'd suggest reading through this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> milk: do you dual boot the system?
[22:09] <wildbat> Bigbucks: that OT. it is M$ afterall , you need one~ setup CD etc. or boot to windows and download fixmbr / bootsect. for more ask in ##windows
[22:09] <yawnie> ok, acer is an absolute enemy for ubuntu :/
[22:09] <astraljava> cos_: Always better to state the problem you're having. Then people can decide whether they _can_ help or not.
[22:09] <cos_> Thanks astra.
[22:10] <cos_> Ok so I'm dual booting with Windows 7. Everything was fine until I decided I needed to change my host name. I looked up how to do it and tried using a package called gnome-netwo
[22:10] <cos_> gnome-network-admin
[22:11] <cos_> and changed both my hostname and entry it the hosts file
[22:11] <cos_> I booted to a black screen witha  blinking cursor
[22:11] <cos_> i was able to boot to the recovery console, used startx, and changed the names back
[22:11] <cos_> even though it seemed to take several reboots for it to happen
[22:12] <yawnie> i too am booting to a black screen with blinking cursor... but when trying to boot ubuntu from usb flash disk
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | yawnie cos_
[22:13] <acerlinux> what's ubuntu rescue mix?
[22:13] <cos_> ok so Action I'm a bit confused by your message
[22:13] <yawnie> ActionParsnip: how do i get to that config, when i cannot get to ubuntu at all
[22:14] <cos_> ubottu I am familiar with that command but i dont know why it would apply to my problem
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> yawnie: you can set it in grub, you don't need to be in Ubuntu to set it, so the answer is: easily
[22:14] <cos_> oh
[22:15] <yawnie> ActionParsnip: i am sorry, i am not getting this. I get black screen at the moment i start computer and it decides to boot from usb
[22:15] <Success> two things: ((1) the ubuntu forums makes us log in now to see the forum posts, which is extremely annoying/bad )((2)how do you save panels configurations, like i have one setup rearranged to look like windows or mac, one normal, how do i save the configuration?)
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> yawnie: hold shift at boot
[22:15] <cos_> ActionParsnip: Would that still be a viable solution if I try booting to the recovery console and it freezes when it gets to the end?
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> cos_: I'd test ram if it's hanging there
[22:16] <cos_> crap i just got new ram put in! i had bad ram before.
[22:16] <cos_> the problems only started after changing the hostname
[22:16] <cos_> are you saying that the host name change has nothing to do with it?
[22:16] <bulle> In unity, the launcher has icons for apps i dont want there, i can rightclick on them and untick the "keep in launcher" option, and they dissapear, but next time i login, they are there again, how do i permanently remove them ?
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> cos_: then make sure the /etchosts and /etc/hostname  match exactly the hostname you set
[22:17] <cos_> they absolutely do
[22:17] <Success> yea?
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> cos_: the ram you adde could be bad
[22:18] <cos_> grrrr
[22:18] <wols> bl4ckcomb`: you already have a live CD. install before you reboot to you reboot your new ubuntu of course
[22:18] <blink> hi. I downloaded "Power Manager Inhibit Applet", the control is working, I mean the icon changes, but the system still goes to sleep after a certain time..
[22:18] <cos_> i have no problems booting to windows though
[22:18] <cos_> and using windows
[22:20] <TrentonDAdams> When I switch to a French multilingual keyboard, my right control key does not work the way I expect.  It is assigned to something call ISO_LEVEL5_blah
[22:20] <TrentonDAdams> How do I fix that?
[22:20] <bl4ckcomb`> wols, I've done install-grub /dev/sdc and it finished without problems. now I reboot and want to load the kernel, but the grub> prompt doesn't recognize root and kernel
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> cos_: I'd try the nomodeset boot option, may help. At least remove the quiet splash   boot options so you can watch the boot
[22:21] <cos_> ActionParsnip: ok, i will try it. last time i tried removing the quiet splash it was just stuck at the purple screen from grub.  you put a ! before nomodeset, but no one else has mentioned to do that. was that a typo?
[22:26] <WG1337> Hi! I have ubuntu x64 server, but one server plugin requires GLIBCXX_3.4.14, but gcc -v shows I have 4.4.3. What can I do?
[22:26] <jlgaddis> thanks for the assistance earlier guys
[22:27] <kingofswords> hi my windows burn doesnt work in animations/compiz....any ideas anyone?
[22:27] <ejo> argh... Xinerama is pretty bad on multiple monitors with some or all of them rotated :[
[22:27] <ejo> I get windows showing background through them unpredictably
[22:28] <ejo> and weird subpixel rendering issues (though that part is probably ATI's not-so-great fglrx video driver)
[22:30] <adzy> can anyone recommend a disk defrag or disk repair tool for ubuntu?
[22:30] <CLF1> can someone tell me how to diagnose this error: samba4: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[22:30] <fmauro> adzy: fsck
[22:31] <fmauro> adzy: what is your problem exactly?
[22:32] <astraljava> WG1337: Probably need ia32-libs ?
[22:32] <Protomega> So I was hoping to learn about Linux and I was told to get Ubuntu. What now?
[22:32] <bulle> adzy: defrag is very seldom usefull with the default ubuntu filesystem, ext4
[22:33] <moxbox> Where can I find my kernel header files? (Uubntu Maverick running 2.6.35-30)
[22:33] <adzy> my computer crashed and i think the drive has errors, i tried to install windows but it just freezes, but i got ubuntu working! but need windows too
[22:33] <moxbox> adzy: Try installing Virtualbox-ose if you have the RAM for it.
[22:33] <gwhip> i'm using 10.04 LTS ... is there a way to turn off all notification popup's?
[22:33] <astraljava> WG1337: Or just plain libstdc++6, are there some errors that you're seeing? Pastebin them, if yes.
[22:34] <fmauro> adzy: is your windows no longer listed in your grub entries?
[22:34] <moxbox> Where can I find my kernel header files? (Uubntu Maverick running 2.6.35-30)
[22:34] <astraljava> Protomega: Just use it for any tasks you want to do? If you stumble into problems, ask here, on http://ubuntuforums.org, or http://askubuntu.com
[22:35] <adzy> fmauro no i did a full format and re partitions
[22:35] <adzy> fmauro, no i did a full format and re partitions
[22:36] <fmauro> adzy: why don't you try to run smartmontools to see if your disk has errors
[22:36] <adzy> fmauro, and when i tried to install windows it just froze up, i was wondering if there was something i could run to scan drive for errors?
[22:36] <moxbox> Where can I find my kernel header files? (Uubntu Maverick running 2.6.35-30) I'm trying to install VMWare Server, and the perl installer script needs version.h
[22:36] <fmauro> adzy: wait. I'll get you a link
[22:36] <adzy> fmauro: ok ill try that
[22:37] <adzy> fmauro: thanks
[22:37] <astraljava> gwhip: Does this help? http://fooninja.net/2010/07/29/disable-notifications-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/
[22:37] <fmauro> adzy: http://blog.shadypixel.com/monitoring-hard-drive-health-on-linux-with-smartmontools/
[22:37] <adzy> fmauro, Cheers for that!
[22:38] <fmauro> adzy: don't mention it mate
[22:38] <gwhip> astraljava: thanks!
[22:40] <no-name-> is there a command you can use to prevent an application from locking your terminal
[22:40] <no-name-> e.g. gedit
[22:40] <no-name-> like if i want to open it from the shell without locking it
[22:40] <chordogg> put a space and an ampersand after the command
[22:40] <chordogg> like gedit &
[22:40] <no-name-> cool, thanks :)
[22:40] <chordogg> :)
[22:40] <moxbox> Where can I find my kernel header files? (Uubntu Maverick running 2.6.35-30) I'm trying to install VMWare Server, and the perl installer script needs version.h
[22:42] <chordogg> moxbox, you may need to download them. i think you can do something like sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` in the command prompt. i believe they usually go to /usr/src/
[22:43] <Dramaturg> Hey, I have an issue with my Ubuntu 11.04. It does not see a wifi network. It used to see and connect to it but all of a suddon it wont. I am using this wifi network ATM from another pc. Iwlist scan does not show the network. Where should I start looking? Thx
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> !find linux-header
[22:43] <astraljava> moxbox: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[22:44] <moxbox> thank you.
[22:45] <moxbox> wait, I can throw uname -r right into the apt command, or are you just shortening it?
[22:45] <astraljava> Dramaturg: You can start here, and ask here if you get stuck somewhere. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[22:46] <astraljava> moxbox: You need the backticks ` ` around it.
[22:46] <moxbox> linux-headers-2.6.35-30-generic is already the newest version.
[22:46] <moxbox> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[22:46] <moxbox> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.35-30-generic/include
[22:46] <moxbox> The directory of kernel headers (version @@VMWARE@@ UTS_RELEASE) does not match
[22:46] <moxbox> your running kernel (version 2.6.35-30-generic).  Even if the module were to
[22:46] <moxbox> compile successfully, it would not load into the running kernel.
[22:46] <FloodBot1> moxbox: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:46] <moxbox> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[22:47] <militant_> haven't run ubuntu in ages, just switched back over from arch.  where's proper sun java?  (and is there anything to do for minecraft other than just running the jar?)
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> militant_: enable partner repo
[22:48] <Dramaturg> astraljava: It's not like its not working - it just does not connect to a specific network. And that's not covered in the help you just send. (Which I read btw)
[22:48] <astraljava> militant_: partner repository (at least for a couple of releases now)
[22:48] <militant_> ok.  i'll find the spot to enable those.  thanks
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> militant_: there is a ppa which gets updated more frequently too
[22:49] <moxbox> The kernel headers are the newest version, and it says that my kernel isn't the running kernel, although uname -r says otherwise
[22:50] <astraljava> Dramaturg: Sorry, then. Try back later, if no-one knows now. I certainly don't know what to try next.
[22:50] <moxbox> "The directory of kernel headers (version @@VMWARE@@ UTS_RELEASE) does not match your running kernel (version 2.6.35-30-generic).  Even if the module were to compile successfully, it would not load into the running kernel."
[22:51] <moxbox> "uname -r" gives me 2.6.35-30-generic
[22:51] <militant_> ok, i enabled partners in software center but nothing new shows on a search or in the partners section
[22:52] <astraljava> militant_: Did you reload (or whatever it is you do in software center)?
[22:52] <chordogg> can we posts links here?
[22:52] <astraljava> militant_: Ie. the equivalent of `sudo apt-get update`
[22:52] <chordogg> moxbox, try this link: http://www.atlink.it/~conti/2007/12/19/vmware-uts_release/
[22:52] <meoblast001> hi
[22:52] <meoblast001> i'm having a bit of a problem
[22:52] <meoblast001> i tried to update from 10.10 to 11.04, and it failed... i lost all my software sources though
[22:53] <meoblast001> how could i reenable those, they seem to be deleted
[22:53] <moxbox> chordogg: you're the best!
[22:53] <chordogg> moxbox, did that work?
[22:53] <meoblast001> does anyone here run Kubuntu 10.10 who could give me the default repo lines?
[22:53] <moxbox> I'm trying it now
[22:53] <militant_> astraljava: i guess?  i just restarted software center and no results.  it shows openjdk and stuff but not straightup sun java 1.7.3 or whatever it is today
[22:54] <moxbox> I run Ubuntu 10.10. repo's the same.
[22:54] <Soothsayer> I'm dual booting windows 7 and ubuntu, (windows 7 is ntfs, ubuntu is on ext4)... When I'm on Ubuntu and  I transfer some files or edit some files in the NTFS drive and later come back to windows, those files / directories appear corrupt for some reason
[22:54] <Soothsayer> why is this happening?
[22:55] <minimec> meoblast001: You can recreate them yourself... http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[22:56] <moxbox> chordogg: Gives me a permission denied, even with sudo
[22:58] <meoblast001> minimec: thanks
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> meoblast001: boot to Natty CD and the upgrade will be an option
[22:59] <astraljava> militant_: I have no idea. Perhaps Software Center has a problem with that? Can you try on CLI: `sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre`
[22:59] <meoblast001> oh, strange
[22:59] <meoblast001> aparently i have everything activated
[22:59] <meoblast001> but they're all natty repos
[22:59] <meoblast001> something is really borked here
[22:59] <chordogg> hmm...not sure why that would be, unless maybe one of the directories didnt exist?
[22:59] <Dramaturg> How to reconfigure the network manager (like reinstall but without internet) dpkg-reconfigure -a network-manager or smith else?
[22:59] <chordogg> i'd try doing a google search for @@VMWARE@@ UTS_RELEASE, i'll bet someone else has had your problem before
[22:59] <militant_> astraljava: cool, it's running
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> meoblast001: try the server upgrade method
[23:00] <meoblast001> what's that?
[23:00] <moxbox> Google was my first check. I'm about to go to VMware themselves.
[23:01] <yawnie> holding shift while booting does nothing :/
[23:02] <astraljava> moxbox: Didn't check the first link given to you, is this similar? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10761345
[23:02] <militant_> oh and what's this about?  f5 doesn't refresh, it blanks webpages.  ^5 does refresh
[23:02] <chordogg> moxbox, maybe the version.h file doesnt have read permission? try sudo chmod 777 version.h when you cd to that directory
[23:04] <moxbox> says "utsrelease.h" doesn't exist
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> militant_: which browser?
[23:04] <moxbox> when i try cat utsrelease.h >> version.h
[23:04] <militant_> ActionParsnip: chromium
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> militant_: which version?
[23:05] <militant_> latest
[23:05] <meoblast001> oh yay
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> militant_: I can name 3 "latest"s
[23:05] <meoblast001> my package manager is broke
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> meoblast001: can you give the output of: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:05] <moxbox> militant: $ chromuim -v
[23:05] <moxbox> might be chromium-browser
[23:05] <meoblast001> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[23:06] <militant_> ActionParsnip: 12.0.742.112 (90304) Ubuntu 11.04
[23:07] <meoblast001> i need to replace my entire repo list
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> militant_: ok that's the stable release, there is also the unstable and the daily build
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> militant_: does the F5 refresh issue happen as all users?
[23:08] <militant_> i only have one user
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> militant_: make another to test then. Your OS can hold more than one local user
[23:08] <militant_> tbh i might remember it doing it in chrome and ie9 both in the 20 mins i ran windows after buying this machine today before installing ubuntu instead
[23:09] <moxbox> afk
[23:10] <militant_> ugh.  i do not like unity.  i'll be removing that soon.  it's a pain to find anything with this over-sensitive touchpad (not speed, just slightest brushes and taps)
[23:10] <astraljava> moxbox: That first link refers to a really old kernel version, did you try the newer instructions at ubuntuforums?
[23:10] <moxbox> militant: also, in gconf (i don't know where right off hand), you can disable tapping the touchpad for clicking
[23:11] <militant_> oh i prefer tapping.  but i know i can disable it while keyboard is in use, so palms won't cause accidents
[23:11] <rodhash> Hello guys, how can I see what module is in use for my USB wireless card??
[23:11] <Squall5668> Hello all, im trying to make a really restricted user in 11.04. I have removed most buttons etc from the drop downs (ubuntu classic ofc) and im trying to get rid of the System Settings in the top right indicator too. Any clue on how to do that?
[23:12] <moxbox> the ubuntuforum link dealt a), with natty, and b), with vmware 2, lol
[23:12] <rodhash> Anyone knows how to see what module is in use for a usb wireless card?
[23:13] <moxbox> my guess is that problem is the perl installer script doesn't have a clue what kernel i'm running
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> rodhash: sudo lshw -C network
[23:13] <moxbox> rodhash: lsmod | grep net
[23:13] <moxbox> acutally, that one is way better.
[23:13] <rodhash> ActionParsnip: I've tried "lsmod / lsub" but I didn't find
[23:13] <astraljava> moxbox: Oh okay, sorry. :)
[23:13] <moxbox> it's okay, no need to apologize
[23:15] <rodhash> ActionParsnip: Would be this one? driver=usb
[23:15] <rodhash> configuration: broadcast=yes driver=usb
[23:16] <moxbox> astraljava: uname -r tells me it's 2.6.35-30-generic, while the perl script says that the very same kernel *isn't* my running kernel.
[23:17] <rodhash> Anyonw knows how can I umount this usb wireless card? It's wlan1..
[23:18] <militant_> my god.  unity is worse than i ever thought.  i can't find anything.  how is it useful to have a massive cluster of 82 apps with no organization or anything
[23:18] <moxbox> although this page apears to be promising: http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-vmware-server-2-on-ubuntu-10.10-kernel-2.6.35-p2
[23:18] <rodhash> Anyonw knows how can I umount this usb wireless card? It's wlan1..
[23:18] <militant_> and that stupid sidebar won't pop up half the time, and duplicates the vanishing taskbar from windows i hate so much
[23:19] <itaylor57> !classic > militant_
[23:20] <RenatoSilva> anyone knows where's/how to get that app where you choose between alsa and others?
[23:20] <moxbox> militant: Log out, then when you select your username, choose "ubuntu classic", then enter your password, and log in.
[23:20] <Squall5668> Am i really the only one trying to make super restricted users? :/
[23:20] <militant_> cool.  i figured there was a revert.  thanks
[23:21] <astraljava> moxbox: utsrelease.h can be found under /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`/include/generated/ but it might still be that even if you fixed that, and the autoconf issue, not all the modules will necessarily build. The 1.x line of server is way outdated.
[23:21] <moxbox> RenatoSilva: System > Preferences > Main Menu, then under Preferences, check the box that says "Multimedia systems selector"
[23:21] <moxbox> Astraljava: thanks, I'll try v2
[23:21] <moxbox> brb, all
[23:22] <RenatoSilva> moxbox: THANKS!
[23:22] <RenatoSilva> moxbox: it's alsa anyway, the ubuntu alsa ppa didn't work bah
[23:22] <astraljava> Squall5668: Most likely not. Does that relate to some support issue?
[23:23] <Squall5668> Hello all, im trying to make a really restricted user in 11.04. I have removed most buttons etc from the drop downs (ubuntu classic ofc) and im trying to get rid of the System Settings in the top right indicator too. Any clue on how to do that?
[23:23] <Squall5668> i posted this a minute ago
[23:23] <Squall5668> i thought of a chroot jail, but that's quite easy to break out of
[23:23] <astraljava> Squall5668: Right, sorry. Must've missed it.
[23:23] <jo-erlend_> Squall5668, there are tools to do that, but if you say why you want to do it, it's probably easier to give you a good answer.
[23:24] <sw0rdfish> where is the mysql data directory
[23:24] <sw0rdfish> the default one
[23:24] <sw0rdfish> ewook, you still there :D
[23:24] <jo-erlend_> sw0rdfish, /var/lib/mysql or something?
[23:24] <Squall5668> jo-erlend, i just don't want the user to be able to change any setting at all, save from programs like firefox and libreoffice
[23:24] <coz_> Squall5668,  trying to think of a way to do this without actually uninstalling some indicators
[23:26] <jo-erlend_> sw0rdfish, you can use #Ubuntu-server for server-related questions btw.
[23:26] <coz_> Squall5668,  see if this helps    http://www.techotopia.com/index.php/Managing_Ubuntu_11.04_Users_and_Groups#Modifying_User_Account_Settings
[23:26] <fakingfantastic> how do you check the cron is on and running?
[23:26] <Fjorgynn> ...
[23:26] <Fjorgynn> how can I get 3d support?
[23:26] <Fjorgynn> nvidia
[23:26] <coz_> Fjorgynn,   did you install the nvidia driver?
[23:26] <th0r> fakingfantastic: if there is a cronjob running. crontab -l will show all scheduled jobs
[23:27] <jo-erlend_> Squall5668, hope you have good reasons for it.
[23:27] <Fjorgynn> coz_: yes
[23:27] <fakingfantastic> th0r: ok, so since my line shows up - that means it's gonna run?
[23:27] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  ok and did you reboot after installing the nvidia drivers?
[23:27] <Fjorgynn> yes
[23:27] <Fjorgynn> coz_: and when I try to start nvidia-settings it says I must write bla bla bal in terminal. Did that and NO. the X-server won't start
[23:27] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  ok   are you on    Unity or classic?
[23:27] <Fjorgynn> coz_: xfce
[23:28] <th0r> fakingfantastic: it means it will be executed. Whether it runs or not depends on how good the command is <smile>
[23:28] <fakingfantastic> th0r: touche, thanks
[23:28] <sw0rdfish> jo-erlend_, thanks you already got it right first time :D
[23:28] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  ok  what does it say "exactlY'  when you type  nvidia-settings  in the terminal?
[23:28] <Squall5668> coz_ that's just the regular settings. Thanks though
[23:28] <coz_> Squall5668,  sorry
[23:28] <Duckfd> How do I run a program like in ALT F2 from the terminal?
[23:28] <Fjorgynn> coz_: gets a popup
[23:29] <coz_> Fjorgynn,    and what does that say "exactly"
[23:29] <Squall5668> jo-erlend_ i told you the reason. I just don't want that idi... ahem... guy to mess anything up. Even his own settings
[23:29] <jo-erlend_> Squall5668, but if you explain the scenario, it really does become easier to provide better help.
[23:29] <th0r> Duckfd: any command that runs in Alt-F2 should also run if entered at the command prompt in the terminal
[23:29] <Fjorgynn> "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run 'nvidia-xconfig' as root) and restart the X server"
[23:29] <Fjorgynn> coz_:
[23:29] <coz_> Squall5668,  not sure off hand,, there has to be a simple solution for this
[23:29] <Fjorgynn> and when I did that the server won't start
[23:29] <Duckfd> thor   but with leaving a prompt
[23:30] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  ok first in terminal  type     jockey-gtk
[23:30] <jo-erlend_> Squall5668, why don't you make a panic button instead, so that he can just jump back to a time when everything was fine? It's easier to do, and a lot more user friendly.
[23:30] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  when that opens   see if in fact the nvidia_current dirver is activated
[23:30] <Fjorgynn> coz_: yes
[23:30] <Fjorgynn> This driver is activated but not used
[23:30] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  ok so it says it is indeed activated,,, ok in terminal type  sudo nvidia-xconfig
[23:31] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  then either restart x  or reboot
[23:31] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  out of curisity  in terminal   lspci | grep -i vga
[23:31] <coz_> curiosity
[23:31] <Fjorgynn> coz_: got Intel and nVidia
[23:31] <Squall5668> jo-erlend_ agh, you are really pushing my english skills... This box will be given to a guy and he will share it with others too. All of which have no idea of doing more than clicking the mouse button. All they need is probably the office suite. Maybe firefox too (not sure if they have even used the internet before) Yes that's the kind of people im talking about. So no, one more button is just
[23:31] <Squall5668> not a good idea
[23:32] <Fjorgynn> it says coz_
[23:32] <coz_> Fjorgynn,   I need to see the actual readout,, go to pastebin.com and paste it there,, post it and give me the link
[23:32] <Fjorgynn> coz_: http://pastebin.com/Q0j56hq7
[23:32] <Fjorgynn> there
[23:32] <coz_> Fjorgynn,   laptop ...yes?
[23:33] <Fjorgynn> yes
[23:33] <coz_> Fjorgynn,   ok the easiest and most reliable thing to do is to remove the nvidia driver and use the intel video
[23:33] <elz89> how do I make system info display when I ssh to a machine, some of my ubuntu servers do it, others not?
[23:33] <haruair> hello
[23:33] <jo-erlend_> Squall5668, making it so that alt+ctrl+f12 restores everything to how it was a half an hour ago is something you can do in an hour or so. Locking down all applications can be _really_ difficult. In any case, you should give each user their own account. That usually reduces problems dramatically since people tend to care less about systems they share.
[23:33] <coz_> Fjorgynn,   blacklisting and disabling the onboard intel may be a pain in the rear and I have not found an adequate way of doing that with dual video card systems
[23:33] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  unless you can disable the intel video in the bios
[23:34] <fakingfantastic> th0r: i set up this:   1 * * * * /usr/bin/touch /tmp/test    -- didn't work, ran the command manually, it did. Any idea?
[23:34] <Fjorgynn> coz_: but I want 3d?
[23:34] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  the intell video should give that also
[23:34] <Squall5668> Well, i guess the panic button will do. But if you could possibly link a guide for locking down everything, id be greatful. I have time anyways :)
[23:34] <Fjorgynn> :/
[23:34] <coz_> Fjorgynn,   if not then ,, I am not sure what to say ,, as I said,, check the bios to see if the intel onboard can be disabled,  if that's the case then reinstall the nvidia driver and all should be well
[23:35] <Squall5668> jo-erlend_ sorry forgot to type your name, check a little upwards :)
[23:35] <Fjorgynn> or just keep using Windows 7
[23:35] <jo-erlend_> Squall5668, let me put it another way. Avoiding all possible errors is extremely difficult. Making it possible to easily correct all possible errors is very easy.
[23:35] <th0r> fakingfantastic: /tmp is owned by root. Are you running the cron as root?
[23:35] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  let me check online for any references to dual video systems and disableing onboard intel ,, hold on
[23:35] <fakingfantastic> th0r: how do i know?
[23:35] <Squall5668> jo-erlend_ i still wish to see a guide. Is there one?
[23:36] <JohnnyFive> ok, I have a USB device (IR receiver) plugged in.. how can I figure out what /dev/ it was mapped to?
[23:36] <jo-erlend_> Squall5668, I actually tried to do that once. I spent a week, and I gave up. Some applications are almost impossible to lock down because of how they work. You can try Sabayon, for instance. It will lock down the main desktop. The panel and such.
[23:36] <th0r> fakingfantastic: each user has his/her own crontab. If you run crontab -l as <username> you only see the jobs that user has scheduled
[23:36] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  y ou might also check in ##hardware channel to see if they have suggestions
[23:36] <th0r> fakingfantastic: and I am not sure, there may be some problem running something like that as root
[23:36] <fakingfantastic> th0r: ahh ok yeah im doing crontab -e as root
[23:36] <fakingfantastic> ok good deal
[23:37] <Squall5668> jo-erlend_ thank you! Ill poke around that tool then
[23:37] <th0r> fakingfantastic: I have never tried to run a crontab as root....so not sure. I do know you cannot use ~ in crontab, you have to use the full path name (unless there is some ubuntu specific mod going on)
[23:37] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  I am finding nothing online about this
[23:38] <jo-erlend_> Squall5668, but if you value input, then my opinion is that what you are doing is wrong. I don't often say that. You should use backups instead. It's _much_ easier both for you and the users and you get lots of bonuses.
[23:38] <coz_> Fjorgynn,   check in both ##hardware and ##linux channels,, maybe someone there can help with t his,, make sure you say you want to use the onboard nvidia and not the intel
[23:38] <Squall5668> i have tried that and tested my patiance one too many times
[23:38] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  if you find a solution for this , please let me know
[23:38] <Fjorgynn> or just use Windows 7 and swear
[23:39] <elz89> how do I make system info display when I ssh to a machine, some of my ubuntu servers do it, others not?
[23:39] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  i wou ld hunt down a few people who may have a solution before consigning myself to that :)
[23:39] <Fjorgynn> nah
[23:39] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  its worth the effort honest
[23:39] <jo-erlend_> Squall5668, did you try automatic incremental backups and a keyboard shortcut to restore to the last backup? "Press alt+ctrl+f12 and everything will be back to normal, no matter what you do". Nothing is easier than that.
[23:40] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  as I said ,, check in the bios,, if both video cards are o nboard,, there should be a way of disabling one of them
[23:40] <induz> I have 1gb UFD and i want to install a flavor of LINUX/Ubuntu on it...so i can boot from the UFD...what u suggest
[23:40] <coz_> Inure,   "UFD" ?
[23:40] <induz> UFD is formatted in MSwindows as FAT32
[23:41] <induz> UFD= USB flash drive
[23:41] <coz_> ah
[23:41] <induz> PenDrive
[23:41] <induz> stick
[23:41] <Squall5668> jo-erlend_ no i haven't tried the one-button restore approach but a tool for backups. I guess im not too good with user-friendlyness. Anyways, ill take your input and rethink my approach :)
[23:41] <induz> thumb drive
[23:41] <coz_> induz,   I would think any of the ubuntu versions should work well
[23:41] <induz> but it is just Igb
[23:41] <induz> 1gb
[23:41] <coz_> induz,  hold on
[23:42] <elz89> induz: go with arch linux
[23:42] <Griffin11> induz that is sufficient
[23:42] <induz> so i want a small version with basics and networking support
[23:42] <jo-erlend_> Squall5668, that's wise. Because I can almost promise you that no matter how hard to try to make the system bullet proof, some user is going to find a way to do something wrong.
[23:42] <induz> arch linux??
[23:42] <Squall5668> don't i know :/
[23:42] <induz> any link
[23:43] <coz_> induz,   also austrumi  if you dont need much else
[23:43] <Griffin11> induz, oh i though you wanted to install -from- usb, nevermind
[23:43] <coz_> induz,   this works well from a flash drive   http://cyti.latgola.lv/ruuni/
[23:43] <induz> i want bootable so I donthave to
[23:44] <joaolucas_> Hello everbody
[23:44] <joaolucas_> How're you?
[23:45] <coz_> induz,  austrumi is based on slackware,, it will definitly fit onto that drive with most of what you need
[23:45] <NotreDev> i'm getting a permission error when trying to strace a file with sudo. anyone have suggestions for other ways to watch a file?
[23:45] <coz_> NotreDev,  mm try sudo -i
[23:45] <jo-erlend_> Squall5668, what I ended up doing, in order to really be sure everything worked, was to take an incremental backup of the users home every 30 minutes. The panic button would log out the user, restore to the latest backup and then log the user back in. It worked very well.
[23:46] <elz89> coz_: whats up with the screenshots on that site eh?
[23:46] <coz_> elz89,  not sure,, you cant see them?
[23:46] <fakingfantastic> th0r: so i just created a new account, did crontab -e, for 1 * * * * /usr/bin/touch /home/web/testing, did a crontab -l ... saw it there, but still not running
[23:46] <induz> coz_, any link
[23:46] <Squall5668> jo-erlend_ that'll be quite easy. Ill go with that for a while then, see how it woks
[23:46] <Squall5668> works*
[23:46] <elz89> coz_:  nope, firefox and safari no good
[23:46] <jo-erlend_> Squall5668, good luck :)
[23:46] <coz_> induz,      http://cyti.latgola.lv/ruuni/
[23:47] <Squall5668> jo-erlend_ thanks
[23:47] <coz_> elz89,  they are showing up in firefox here
[23:47] <th0r> fakingfantastic: not sure, but try putting the entire command inside 'single quotes'
[23:47] <coz_> elz89,  do you have flash installed?
[23:47] <elz89> I use 5.0.1 on OSX
[23:47] <mooee2> Hi there smart guys. Do somebody have a spare 5 minutes and a bit knowledge about connecting two routers? I'll really appreciate it
[23:47] <JohnnyFive> Wait. Nix that. If I plug in a USB device, and it doesn't attach to something in /dev/, how do I force it?
[23:48] <elz89> mount
[23:48] <coz_> mooee2,  i do not sorry,, however,,, if no one here, at this particular time has a solution,, you can also try the ##linux  channel
[23:48] <JohnnyFive> elz89, even if it's just a USB IR Receiver?
[23:48] <mooee2> coz_, thank you
[23:49] <coz_> mooee2,  no problem
[23:49] <elz89> JohnnyFive:  yes at boot
[23:49] <upgrdman> JohnnyFive, does dmesg give any clues as to why the ir rx isn't working?
[23:49] <induz> Austrumi its an ISO file...How can i run it on USBSTIck
[23:50] <JohnnyFive> upgrdman, looking
[23:50] <ewook> sw0rdfish: yes :p
[23:50] <induz> coz_, how can i make it to work on USB ..its downloading a ISO file
[23:51] <sw0rdfish> oh welcome back ewook
[23:51] <upgrdman> JohnnyFive, if you unplug it, plug it back in, wait maybe 10 seconds, then run dmesg it should have any pertinent notices at the end
[23:51] <ewook> thx :p
[23:51] <coz_> induz,  are you on linux or windows right now?
[23:51] <sw0rdfish> man I still can't reset my mysql password
[23:51] <JohnnyFive> upgrdman, ya was about to do that I think
[23:51] <ewook> induz: unetbootin
[23:51] <upgrdman> ok
[23:51] <coz_> induz,     http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[23:51] <sw0rdfish> I'm getting frustrated, ewook, can I reinstall it without aptitude (I don't have aptitude lol I don't like it because I remember it causing me trouble in another distro)
[23:51] <coz_> induz,   if you are on windows you can download the windows version there
[23:51] <induz> i am in Ubuntu
[23:52] <ewook> sw0rdfish: aptitude should be there by default *_*
[23:52] <sw0rdfish> ewook, man I still can't reset my mysql password
[23:52] <coz_> induz,   ok   sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[23:52] <th0r> fakingfantastic: a suggestion about cron. Put the cron lines in the file ~/cron.txt. Then if you schedule two or more cron jobs you don't have to keep reentering them. Edit the file, then load it in with crontab /home/user/cron.txt
[23:52] <ewook> sw0rdfish: did you try the reinstall part?
[23:52] <sw0rdfish> nope when I type it in terminal it says package aptitude found in...etc
[23:52] <sw0rdfish> unless there is a graphical interface which is already there?
[23:52] <fakingfantastic> th0r: i may do this, once i can get this way to work
[23:53] <sw0rdfish> ewook, ok how do i try the uninstall part I actually didn't
[23:53] <induz> unetbootin is loaded now coz_
[23:54] <induz> do I have to make the USBStick bootable first
[23:54] <ewook> sw0rdfish: you prolly could (I'm not sure about this) try to first do a apt-get remove mysql && apt-get purge and then do a apt-get install mysql
[23:54] <elz89> how do I make system info display when I ssh to a machine, some of my ubuntu servers do it, others not?
[23:54] <sw0rdfish> ewook, thats better than doing it with aptitude?
[23:54] <coz_> induz,  ok cool,, easy to deal with  ,, just locate the .iso  and   then click ok
[23:55] <coz_> induz,  if the flash drive is already attached that is
[23:55] <coz_> induz,   it will show up on the bottom left field as "USB Drive"
[23:55] <induz> USB stick is attached to the machine but it has some MS window file/folder
[23:55] <coz_> induz,    just above that and to the far right is a  button with   ...  on it  ,, click that ,,locate the iso and then click ok
[23:55] <johnnysix> upgrdman, does this tell you anything? http://pastebin.com/L25M6qHx I don't see any errors, but I don't get where it's attaching it?
[23:55] <coz_> induz,   also make sure the system is set to boot from usb
[23:56] <ewook> sw0rdfish: that's like doing the --reinstall with aptitue
[23:56] <ewook> sw0rdfish: first you remove the installation, then you purge it, and last you install it again
[23:56] <upgrdman> johnnysix, looks like its working
[23:56] <induz> coz_, I install the program but dont know where it is
[23:56] <upgrdman> johnnysix, you probably need to setup lirc or whatever program you want to use your remote with
[23:56] <sw0rdfish> yeah I just tried aptitude --reinstall mysql still displays the same message "package aptitude can be found in...etc"
[23:57] <sw0rdfish> ewook, ^^
[23:57] <coz_> induz,   under system tools
[23:57] <ewook> sw0rdfish: there was a person in here before that had a keen eye to how to you newer stuff tho *_*
[23:57] <coz_> induz,  or open a terminal and type   unetbootin
[23:57] <coz_> induz,   or alt + F2   and type  undetbootin
[23:57] <sw0rdfish> newer stuff?
[23:57] <ewook> sw0rdfish: well if aptitude is missing, there will of course be a message that it cannot be found. but your message is weird.
[23:57] <sw0rdfish> whatever man I'm just gonna do the apt-get commands you showed me
[23:58] <johnnysix> upgrdman, so how do I point to the device in a config file?
[23:58] <johnnysix> I thought USB devices were mounted somewhere in /dev/
[23:58] <elz89> sw0rdfish:  have you tried purging mysql?
[23:58] <slinzex> hi there! anybody knows how to easy download flash video buffered in chrome? /tmp solution not work .. :S
[23:58] <sw0rdfish> ewook, no
[23:59] <vlt> Hello. I'm using Ubuntu 11.04. How can I enter a character when I know its Unicode number? Is there an Alt+[?]+number combination?