[01:23] <pmatulis> jo-erlend_: someone told me the same today, the left pane cannot be removed apparently
[01:25] <jo-erlend_> pmatulis, hmm. I think I was able to remove it. What I was thinking of, is that the left pane goes up the the top of the window, but the left pane has a toolbar of sorts. And since that toolbar is dark and left left pane is white, it makes the left pane look awkward.
[01:25] <jo-erlend_> otherwise I really like it.
[01:28] <pmatulis> jo-erlend_: yes, it also looks awkward
[03:15] <sianhulo> peps, i've oneiric ocelot(64bits) i installed gnome-shell but it only shows de wallpaper(but i can launch programs by console)
[03:17] <sianhulo> lightdm shows me user definied,ubuntu, ubuntu 2d, GNOME classic, GNOMEclassic(without effects), GNOME and recovery console. both gnome classics looks like gnome 2.x with a few changes, unity still works
[03:27] <sianhulo> i'd forgotten, when i run "gnome-shell" or "mutter --replace" on console, it tells me "Violación de segmento (`core' generado)", in english that would be something like"segmentation fault(core dumped)"
[03:42] <sianhulo> well, at least someone who hasn't installed gnome shell could tell me which gnome 3 libraries comes with oneiric?
[03:56] <sianhulo> thanks anyway, i've got to go
[10:39] <lan3y> hi, downloaded the daily about 5 mins ago booted it up keeps asking for password for wifi and install?
[10:42] <lan3y> just me?
[10:45] <lan3y> pretty useless build today
[10:53] <lan3y> ok nevermind, found it here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1813927
[12:45] <coz_>   brb
[14:42] <soee> any oneiric users with KDe 4.7 here
[14:42] <soee> ?
[14:50]  * penguin42 really should upgrade his KDE machine
[15:12] <yofel> just missed him..
[15:56] <dgfger> where's appearance applet gone in oneiric?
[15:57] <dgfger> and language settings too
[16:05] <nperry> whatever you are looking for its either in gnome-control-center or gnome-tweak-tool
[16:23] <dgfger> why I don't have gnome-tweak-tool?
[16:26] <dgfger> it means I cannot change font without Inrernet connection??
[16:31] <dgfger> also gnome-tweak-tool pulls in 30mb of dependencies?
[16:41] <dr_willis> Hmm. It seems every so often my unity settings all get reset.
[16:42] <dr_willis> seems like twice now after updateing, unity user settings were reset.  that Ive noticed.
[16:48] <dgfger> also, why was calendar removed?
[16:49] <dr_willis> what calander? :) i never noticed one
[16:51] <dgfger> where you put events and alarms
[16:51] <dgfger> todos this stuff
[16:52] <dr_willis> most have never used it.. Only calander i ever look at is the one under the  clock at top right.
[16:52] <dr_willis> Would be nice if the OS could auto sync with my google calander like my phone does.. but ive only got perhaps  2 apointments a month.
[17:00] <Ian_Corne> dgfger: I think that is part of evolution
[17:00] <Ian_Corne> and since it's moving to thunderbird...
[17:01] <zniavre> hello im using gnome3.x with classic-session the nm-applet icon still missing, that is a regular situation at this point ?
[17:02] <zniavre> calendar is also "broken" it display empty window
[17:03] <zniavre> http://i.imgur.com/qkniA.png
[17:06] <dr_willis> zniavre,  with gnome-3 'broken' is commonplace..
[17:07] <dr_willis> I cant even get it to load up properly. Havent tried this week. :)
[17:07] <IdleOne> switch to Kubuntu
[17:07] <IdleOne> it is wonderful
[17:08] <dr_willis> I keep trying to use kde.. but it just annoyes me too much.
[17:08] <dr_willis> been using Lubuntu+awn lately.
[17:08] <bjsnider> you and most people
[17:09] <dgfger> no windows network support still
[17:09] <IdleOne> dr_willis: you have to give it a full 30 days.
[17:10] <IdleOne> I used to have a hard time with kde also until I gave it the full month trial it deserves
[17:10] <dr_willis> 30 day money back guarentee. :)
[17:10] <IdleOne> something like that :)
[17:11] <IdleOne> dr_willis: for me it was the muscle memory thing I had with gnome that kept me from testing kde for more then a few days.
[17:11] <IdleOne> I finally gave it a real shot and I love it
[17:12] <IdleOne> time for a reboot
[17:12] <dr_willis> I think they sould of went real 'bioshockish' with the names. :) Plasmids, and adam, and so on..   the whole 'plasma' thing.. reminds me of my college days donating to get pizza money.
[17:12] <dgfger> can someone explain why no most commonplace network support in august 2011??
[17:13] <dr_willis> dgfger,  i dont even know what that term means...
[17:13] <bjsnider> i think he's ryinbg to complain about samba
[17:14] <dr_willis> You mean the MS 'standard' that MS keeps changeing? :)
[17:14] <bjsnider> not sure what else he could mean by 'windows network'
[17:14] <dgfger> dr_willis, sure, 2001 was right yesterday
[17:15]  * dr_willis is still not exactly sure what we are talking about...
[17:16] <dgfger> i do not understand why 2011 ubuntu cannot connect to network while xp from 2001 can
[17:17] <bjsnider> oneiric is currently an alpha
[17:17] <bjsnider> the latest stable ubuntu version is natty
[17:18] <dr_willis> I have XP machines that cant detect my WIn7 box. but ubuntu does.. then win7 can see XP but not Ubuntu...
[17:18] <charlie-tca> dgfger: I have it!
[17:18] <dr_willis> then Win95 machines that see them all....
[17:18] <charlie-tca> it's because August 2011 is not even here yet!
[17:19] <bjsnider> dr_willis, xp can see windows 7 as long as they're both on the same workgroup and windows 7's network settings are configured correctly
[17:19] <dgfger> dr_willis, because no wins server
[17:20] <dr_willis> but i do recall  that win7 should work as a wins server if no others are on the network..   i alwo recall  trying to enable the wins server on the linux box.. but i just basically got the ip/sharenames  all memorized now. so i can just type them in directly
[17:20] <dr_willis> Havent fought with it lately. :)
[17:21] <dr_willis> I am STILL totally baffaled as to why under the   network:///  location i have 'windows network'  then my one "NAS" server.. is there along side it..
[17:22] <dr_willis> perhaps somthing to do with it being a nas.local type address.   $20 nas is seen by most everything on the network correctly. i should make it the wins server.
[17:23] <bjsnider> the workgroup and its contents are displayed side by side as quicklinks
[17:23] <dr_willis> right now the only thing appearing under the windows network/workgroup is my NAS server. and i have like 4 other machines on the lan.
[17:24] <bjsnider> they should be displayed there too if it works like it does here
[17:24] <dr_willis> findsmb shows 4  things.
[17:24] <dr_willis> but they are not there alongsde the NAS.
[17:24] <dr_willis> well One is a printer.. its showing 'No Workgroup' so thats logical its not there.
[17:24] <dr_willis> but the other 2 are..
[17:24] <dr_willis> 192.168.1.19    NAS           +[WORKGROUP] [Unix] [Samba 3.0.23c]
[17:24] <dr_willis> 192.168.1.112   COWBUNTU       [WORKGROUP] [Unix] [Samba 3.5.9]
[17:25] <dr_willis> smb filters out the local machine perhaps? that would explain no 'cowbuntu' there.
[17:25] <bjsnider> it can't differentiate
[17:26] <dgfger> hell I'm asked for password to connect but it's not accepted
[17:26] <bjsnider> it doesn't know if something's a printer, a workstation, or a nas
[17:27] <dr_willis> well the printer is (from findsmb)
[17:27] <dr_willis> 192.168.1.15    BRWC417FE009DB0 Unknown Workgroup
[17:27] <dr_willis> so im guessing its skipping that because of the Unknown/unset workgroup for it.
[17:27] <bjsnider> is it a brother?
[17:27] <dr_willis> Yes
[17:27] <dr_willis> Very nice printer. :) got it on sale.
[17:28] <bjsnider> it gave itself a stupid network name
[17:28] <bjsnider> let's make it human-readable for god's sake
[17:28] <dr_willis> 'My Printer'
[17:28] <dr_willis> :)
[17:29] <bjsnider> let me look up mine
[17:30] <bjsnider> epson8e71fb
[17:30] <bjsnider> is what it calls itself
[17:32] <penguin42> snappy
[17:34] <bjsnider> so if you've got two networked printers of the same manufacturer on the lan at the same time, how are you supposed to tell them apart?
[17:35] <dgfger> useless
[17:35] <dr_willis> the # is a serial # i belive thats on the tag on the printer.
[17:35] <dr_willis> or in the web interface.
[17:35] <dr_willis> and the printer has a 'print stats/specs/info' feature that shows that # i recall.
[17:38] <dr_willis> what if you got 200 networked printers.. :)
[17:39] <dr_willis> we must have 200 at our rather small factory.  its often a pain figureing out what one to print to thats righjt next to me.
[18:31] <your_nick_here> Is there a command I can use to create a new launcher?
[18:32] <trism> your_nick_here: if you have gnome-panel installed, you can use: gnome-desktop-item-edit filename.desktop;, the right-click, create launcher functionality was recently removed
[18:34] <your_nick_here> Is there a command I can use to create a new launcher?
[22:29] <BUGabundo> bRoas
[22:31] <alex_mayorga> what does the blue triangle over the "Ubuntu icon" means?
[22:35] <penguin42> you've got a little blue triangle?
[22:43] <bjsnider> BUGabundo, are you having any samba issues?
[22:44] <BUGabundo> not that I recall
[22:44] <BUGabundo> 11.04 is worse
[22:44] <BUGabundo> won't shutdown
[22:44] <BUGabundo> even with the workaround in the wiki
[22:44] <BUGabundo> I have 5 CIFS mount points on fstab and its ok
[22:44] <BUGabundo> I do get a warning/error of it being depreciated
[22:45] <bjsnider> some guy was in here earlier complaining about it
[22:45] <bjsnider> probably specific to his system
[22:45] <bjsnider> at least i think it was samba he was talking about
[22:45] <BUGabundo> I haven't done todays updates or rebooted in two days
[22:45] <bjsnider> he wasn't totally clear about it
[22:47] <alex_mayorga> penguin42: yup!
[22:48] <penguin42> alex_mayorga: Huh - I get a blue envelope which has a triangular top when there is a message waiting for me - but that's not over the Ubuntu logo
[22:48] <alex_mayorga> I see the little blue triangle on the top left of the screen from time to time, but I've yet to figure what it means
[22:48] <alex_mayorga> yeah! the blue envelope I've figured it out
[22:53] <penguin42> hmm I wonder what it's doing under your ubuntu logo
[23:02] <Daekdroom> I get that triangle too.,
[23:02] <Daekdroom> I suspect it happens when there's an application trying to draw attention.
[23:03] <Daekdroom> For example, it happens when Firefox is minimized but I open a link in it through Thunderbird.
[23:26] <penguin42> someone has obviously decided blue is notifications