[01:23] jo-erlend_: someone told me the same today, the left pane cannot be removed apparently [01:25] pmatulis, hmm. I think I was able to remove it. What I was thinking of, is that the left pane goes up the the top of the window, but the left pane has a toolbar of sorts. And since that toolbar is dark and left left pane is white, it makes the left pane look awkward. [01:25] otherwise I really like it. [01:28] jo-erlend_: yes, it also looks awkward [03:15] peps, i've oneiric ocelot(64bits) i installed gnome-shell but it only shows de wallpaper(but i can launch programs by console) [03:17] lightdm shows me user definied,ubuntu, ubuntu 2d, GNOME classic, GNOMEclassic(without effects), GNOME and recovery console. both gnome classics looks like gnome 2.x with a few changes, unity still works [03:27] i'd forgotten, when i run "gnome-shell" or "mutter --replace" on console, it tells me "Violación de segmento (`core' generado)", in english that would be something like"segmentation fault(core dumped)" [03:42] well, at least someone who hasn't installed gnome shell could tell me which gnome 3 libraries comes with oneiric? [03:56] thanks anyway, i've got to go === rww is now known as tardis === tardis is now known as rww === jo-erlend_ is now known as jo-erlend === yofel_ is now known as yofel [10:39] hi, downloaded the daily about 5 mins ago booted it up keeps asking for password for wifi and install? [10:42] just me? [10:45] pretty useless build today [10:53] ok nevermind, found it here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1813927 === vDubG__Gone is now known as vDubG [12:45] brb [14:42] any oneiric users with KDe 4.7 here [14:42] ? [14:50] * penguin42 really should upgrade his KDE machine [15:12] just missed him.. [15:56] where's appearance applet gone in oneiric? [15:57] and language settings too [16:05] whatever you are looking for its either in gnome-control-center or gnome-tweak-tool [16:23] why I don't have gnome-tweak-tool? [16:26] it means I cannot change font without Inrernet connection?? [16:31] also gnome-tweak-tool pulls in 30mb of dependencies? [16:41] Hmm. It seems every so often my unity settings all get reset. [16:42] seems like twice now after updateing, unity user settings were reset. that Ive noticed. [16:48] also, why was calendar removed? [16:49] what calander? :) i never noticed one [16:51] where you put events and alarms [16:51] todos this stuff [16:52] most have never used it.. Only calander i ever look at is the one under the clock at top right. [16:52] Would be nice if the OS could auto sync with my google calander like my phone does.. but ive only got perhaps 2 apointments a month. [17:00] dgfger: I think that is part of evolution [17:00] and since it's moving to thunderbird... [17:01] hello im using gnome3.x with classic-session the nm-applet icon still missing, that is a regular situation at this point ? [17:02] calendar is also "broken" it display empty window [17:03] http://i.imgur.com/qkniA.png [17:06] zniavre, with gnome-3 'broken' is commonplace.. [17:07] I cant even get it to load up properly. Havent tried this week. :) [17:07] switch to Kubuntu [17:07] it is wonderful [17:08] I keep trying to use kde.. but it just annoyes me too much. [17:08] been using Lubuntu+awn lately. [17:08] you and most people [17:09] no windows network support still [17:09] dr_willis: you have to give it a full 30 days. [17:10] I used to have a hard time with kde also until I gave it the full month trial it deserves [17:10] 30 day money back guarentee. :) [17:10] something like that :) [17:11] dr_willis: for me it was the muscle memory thing I had with gnome that kept me from testing kde for more then a few days. [17:11] I finally gave it a real shot and I love it [17:12] time for a reboot [17:12] I think they sould of went real 'bioshockish' with the names. :) Plasmids, and adam, and so on.. the whole 'plasma' thing.. reminds me of my college days donating to get pizza money. [17:12] can someone explain why no most commonplace network support in august 2011?? [17:13] dgfger, i dont even know what that term means... [17:13] i think he's ryinbg to complain about samba [17:14] You mean the MS 'standard' that MS keeps changeing? :) [17:14] not sure what else he could mean by 'windows network' [17:14] dr_willis, sure, 2001 was right yesterday [17:15] * dr_willis is still not exactly sure what we are talking about... [17:16] i do not understand why 2011 ubuntu cannot connect to network while xp from 2001 can [17:17] oneiric is currently an alpha [17:17] the latest stable ubuntu version is natty [17:18] I have XP machines that cant detect my WIn7 box. but ubuntu does.. then win7 can see XP but not Ubuntu... [17:18] dgfger: I have it! [17:18] then Win95 machines that see them all.... [17:18] it's because August 2011 is not even here yet! [17:19] dr_willis, xp can see windows 7 as long as they're both on the same workgroup and windows 7's network settings are configured correctly [17:19] dr_willis, because no wins server [17:20] but i do recall that win7 should work as a wins server if no others are on the network.. i alwo recall trying to enable the wins server on the linux box.. but i just basically got the ip/sharenames all memorized now. so i can just type them in directly [17:20] Havent fought with it lately. :) [17:21] I am STILL totally baffaled as to why under the network:/// location i have 'windows network' then my one "NAS" server.. is there along side it.. [17:22] perhaps somthing to do with it being a nas.local type address. $20 nas is seen by most everything on the network correctly. i should make it the wins server. [17:23] the workgroup and its contents are displayed side by side as quicklinks [17:23] right now the only thing appearing under the windows network/workgroup is my NAS server. and i have like 4 other machines on the lan. [17:24] they should be displayed there too if it works like it does here [17:24] findsmb shows 4 things. [17:24] but they are not there alongsde the NAS. [17:24] well One is a printer.. its showing 'No Workgroup' so thats logical its not there. [17:24] but the other 2 are.. [17:24] 192.168.1.19 NAS +[WORKGROUP] [Unix] [Samba 3.0.23c] [17:24] 192.168.1.112 COWBUNTU [WORKGROUP] [Unix] [Samba 3.5.9] [17:25] smb filters out the local machine perhaps? that would explain no 'cowbuntu' there. [17:25] it can't differentiate [17:26] hell I'm asked for password to connect but it's not accepted [17:26] it doesn't know if something's a printer, a workstation, or a nas [17:27] well the printer is (from findsmb) [17:27] 192.168.1.15 BRWC417FE009DB0 Unknown Workgroup [17:27] so im guessing its skipping that because of the Unknown/unset workgroup for it. [17:27] is it a brother? [17:27] Yes [17:27] Very nice printer. :) got it on sale. [17:28] it gave itself a stupid network name [17:28] let's make it human-readable for god's sake [17:28] 'My Printer' [17:28] :) [17:29] let me look up mine [17:30] epson8e71fb [17:30] is what it calls itself [17:32] snappy [17:34] so if you've got two networked printers of the same manufacturer on the lan at the same time, how are you supposed to tell them apart? [17:35] useless [17:35] the # is a serial # i belive thats on the tag on the printer. [17:35] or in the web interface. [17:35] and the printer has a 'print stats/specs/info' feature that shows that # i recall. [17:38] what if you got 200 networked printers.. :) [17:39] we must have 200 at our rather small factory. its often a pain figureing out what one to print to thats righjt next to me. === kancerman_ is now known as kancerman [18:31] Is there a command I can use to create a new launcher? [18:32] your_nick_here: if you have gnome-panel installed, you can use: gnome-desktop-item-edit filename.desktop;, the right-click, create launcher functionality was recently removed [18:34] Is there a command I can use to create a new launcher? === EyesIsMine is now known as Eyes|Sleeping === yofel_ is now known as yofel [22:29] bRoas [22:31] what does the blue triangle over the "Ubuntu icon" means? [22:35] you've got a little blue triangle? [22:43] BUGabundo, are you having any samba issues? [22:44] not that I recall [22:44] 11.04 is worse [22:44] won't shutdown [22:44] even with the workaround in the wiki [22:44] I have 5 CIFS mount points on fstab and its ok [22:44] I do get a warning/error of it being depreciated [22:45] some guy was in here earlier complaining about it [22:45] probably specific to his system [22:45] at least i think it was samba he was talking about [22:45] I haven't done todays updates or rebooted in two days [22:45] he wasn't totally clear about it [22:47] penguin42: yup! [22:48] alex_mayorga: Huh - I get a blue envelope which has a triangular top when there is a message waiting for me - but that's not over the Ubuntu logo [22:48] I see the little blue triangle on the top left of the screen from time to time, but I've yet to figure what it means [22:48] yeah! the blue envelope I've figured it out [22:53] hmm I wonder what it's doing under your ubuntu logo [23:02] I get that triangle too., [23:02] I suspect it happens when there's an application trying to draw attention. [23:03] For example, it happens when Firefox is minimized but I open a link in it through Thunderbird. [23:26] someone has obviously decided blue is notifications