[00:00] <rabe_> the documentation is really good, when i think back to when i did that with win7..
[00:00] <rabe_> that was totally not worth the effort
[00:01] <stlsaint> HA! heck no, know matter how many vLites and kLites they come up with its just not worth it
[00:01] <stlsaint> winbuilder and all that crap
[00:01] <stlsaint> compared to downloading a pre-built iso, chrooting it and simply customizing :D
[00:01] <rabe_> oh god, winbuilder..
[00:01] <rabe_> that was the worst thing ever to debug
[00:02] <rabe_> and the log was quite useless
[00:02] <stlsaint> im forced to still use windows tools for random jobs
[00:02] <rabe_> i have to use photoshop a lot..
[00:03] <rabe_> but else, everything is here
[00:05] <rabe_> maybe i get photoshop to run in wine
[00:06] <stlsaint> rabe_: just setup a windows virtual machine and run from there
[00:07] <rabe_> yeah, but i need more ram
[00:07] <rabe_> raw images are a memory hog
[00:10] <truepurple> rabe_, How much ram do you have?
[00:10] <rabe_> 8GiB
[00:11] <rabe_> but i installed 32 bit by mistake
[00:11] <stlsaint> rabe_: ah, if you are able to run 64 you may want to go ahead and reinstall now before you get all setup and comfortable with your install,
[00:12] <stlsaint> you can always upgrade ram at a later point in time
[00:12] <stlsaint> brb
[00:12] <CLF1> charlie-tca:  found error trace by using -f flag and was able to google the error and someone had the solution...all is well
[00:12] <rabe_> clf1, gratz
[00:25] <rabe_> where can i change the window buttons to be on the right side?
[00:26] <nit-wit> rabe_, gconf-editor
[00:26] <rabe_> thanks
[00:27] <nit-wit> I think its app-metacity -general, I'm on W7 now going from memeory
[00:27] <nit-wit> memory
[01:41] <thewrath> hey all
[01:42] <Silent_Samurai> Heya.
[01:43] <stlsaint> thewrath: yo
[01:44] <thewrath> wats new stlsaint
[01:45] <thewrath> what do you know of psacct package
[01:46] <stlsaint> thewrath: i dont know nothing about it
[01:46] <stlsaint> nor is it in the repos
[01:47] <thewrath> it will probably be in the repos as acct
[01:47] <thewrath> psacct is the fedora repos version
[01:48] <stlsaint> aye yea it is under acct
[01:49] <thewrath> lol
[01:49] <thewrath> what i watn to do is to log all user activity
[01:49] <thewrath> especially when i get my honeypot set up
[01:49] <stlsaint> that seems to be like something that would work
[01:49] <stlsaint> might want to look into net-acct as well
[01:49] <stlsaint> and pmacct :D
[01:50] <thewrath> lol
[01:50] <stlsaint> time for bedtime
[01:50] <stlsaint> later folks
[01:52] <thewrath> ok
[01:52] <thewrath> ttyl
[02:28] <truepurple> I am having a weird problem with files being called "read only"
[02:28] <truepurple> Anyone here?
[02:28] <earthling_> did you try to change the file permissions?
[02:28] <truepurple> No
[02:29] <earthling_> you can right click, properties, permissions
[02:29] <earthling_> I think chmod does it in terminal
[02:30] <truepurple> Its a usb flash drive with some files saved on it. Suddenly I can not alter any of them, and when I copy off any files from it, I can't do anything to those files because "read only"
[02:30] <earthling_> right click on file
[02:30] <truepurple> the whole drive is like this
[02:31] <truepurple> ok, but how do I do this to the whole usb drive?
[02:31] <earthling_> probably have to do it with chmod in terminal
[02:32] <truepurple> I tried doing it by right clicking the drive, I got "Sorry, could not change the permissions of "4C61-1797": Error setting permissions: Read-only file system"
[02:32] <earthling_> !wiki chmod
[02:32] <ubot2> Factoid 'wiki chmod' not found
[02:32] <earthling_> !chmod
[02:32] <ubot2> An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[02:32] <earthling_> are you logged in as administrator?
[02:33] <truepurple> I dont think so, but I have never had trouble with this drive before
[02:34] <earthling_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[02:34] <earthling_> To change or edit files that are owned by root, sudo must be used
[02:35] <geirha> chmod won't help here, the filesystem is mounted read-only.
[02:35] <geirha> So is it fat32 or ntfs on that stick?
[02:36] <truepurple> fat I bet
[02:36] <truepurple> How do I change the mounting?
[02:36] <geirha> some memory sticks have a physical read-only switch. Make sure it's not that
[02:37] <truepurple> for filesystem type it says msdos, not sure if that means fat or not
[02:37] <truepurple> Its a generic usb drive for storage that I have used many times before
[02:37] <truepurple> and I see no switches on it
[02:41] <truepurple> I pulled it out and put it back in (twice, first time it wouldnt work at all) its working now
[02:42] <earthling_> maybe it is corrupted, you can run a chkdsk
[02:42] <earthling_> !chkdsk
[02:42] <ubot2> Factoid 'chkdsk' not found
[02:44] <earthling_> !fsck
[02:44] <ubot2> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[02:44] <nit-wit> truepurple, besides a chkdsk, always unmount the drive before removing.
[02:46] <thewrath> when would you consider a person attempting to create a DoS on your netework or atleast really trying to get in and not neccessilary a bot
[03:17] <truepurple> where do you look to mount a drive?
[03:18] <nit-wit> truepurple, in linux it is a right click and winodows should be a icon in the panel.
[03:18] <nit-wit> right click on the icon, or in the home menu.
[03:19] <nit-wit> truepurple, oh mount sorry in linux go to computer or use disk utility, sorry.
[03:20] <nit-wit> truepurple, you can mount wth a terminal as well I forget the command
[03:20] <truepurple> where are they?
[03:20] <nit-wit> truepurple, are you in Ubuntu
[03:20] <truepurple> it wont detect either of my usb flash drives,
[03:20] <truepurple> yes
[03:20] <truepurple> I think a restart would fix it, but I dont want to do that right now
[03:20] <nit-wit> look at disk utility truepurple
[03:20] <truepurple> where is it?
[03:21] <nit-wit> truepurple, use the left unity panel box with the + and type in disk utility.
[03:21] <truepurple> unity doesnt work for me
[03:21] <nit-wit> +=applications
[03:21] <nit-wit> truepurple, you in the classic
[03:22] <truepurple> I guess so, same graphics as before
[03:22] <truepurple> where in the applications menu?
[03:22] <nit-wit> truepurple, the computer is in the dropdown or disk utility in preference or admin.
[03:23] <nit-wit> I'm on W7 right now so my memory is a little faulty you will find it.
[03:24] <truepurple> Well I didnt find it in system>preferences Are you sure they havent changed the name?
[03:24] <nit-wit> truepurple, for? I gave you multiple places, open home and look in the left panel and see if they are there.
[03:25] <nit-wit> actually multiple apps to mount
[03:26] <truepurple> if I open home in nautilus, to the left of that are other directories
[03:27] <nit-wit> truepurple, yes do you see the usb devices.
[03:27] <truepurple> no
[03:27] <nit-wit> truepurple, do you have gparted installed
[03:27] <truepurple> I found "disk utility"
[03:27] <truepurple> yes
[03:28] <nit-wit> cool yah
[03:28] <nit-wit> disk utility does partitioning and mount and unmount do you see them there.
[03:28] <truepurple> I see some "host adapters"
[03:29] <truepurple> but not the usb drive
[03:29] <nit-wit> truepurple, it will show the size in the picture if you click on one.
[03:29] <truepurple> none of those have sizes
[03:30] <nit-wit> truepurple, if the usb is not shown it is okay to unplug and replug, your not mounted.
[03:30] <truepurple> I tried that, but they arent showing, isnt there a command to make it look for such things?
[03:31] <nit-wit> truepurple, what can happen is if you jerk the usb without unmounting you may break a writing session to it and have problems, quite similar to a read only...etc
[03:32] <truepurple> so your saying both my usb flash drives could be busted?
[03:32] <nit-wit> truepurple, do they show in windows?
[03:33] <truepurple> windows?
[03:33] <truepurple> oh the OS, I dont have that installed at the moment
[03:33] <nit-wit> truepurple, you have windows MS right>
[03:34] <truepurple> Do you need to unmount usb flash drives in windows too?
[03:34] <holstein> it literally cant hurt
[03:34] <nit-wit> truepurple, they will probably show in windows and can be reformatted, I wouldn't get caught up in them if you don't need to a MS look would be helpful.
[03:34] <nit-wit> holstein, how are you man.;)
[03:36] <holstein> nit-wit: im good :)
[03:36] <holstein> i see you are doing well?
[03:36] <nit-wit> truepurple, You always want to unmount the usb get writen to periodically, and interrupting this will cause problems like this.
[03:36] <nit-wit> holstein, yeah, just hanging for the summer wishing I had a tenor sax to go have some giant steps of fun.
[03:37] <nit-wit> just counting down till I get one hehe.
[03:38] <holstein> hehe
[03:38] <nit-wit> acti=ually I'm more modal but f you can play those modal is a cinch. ;)
[03:40] <nit-wit> truepurple, does this all make sense?
[03:43] <holstein> ive started unmounting drives in windows now too... seems wrong not to
[03:47] <nit-wit> holstein, I always do I have never had a problem but just follow that for safety, I rather do that then have to do clean up.
[03:48] <nit-wit> esay to jerk it out with something open from them as well, the unmount will balk then.
[03:51] <nit-wit> I have some what switched to W7, ubuntu crashes X, fedora takes forever to boot debian, and redhat based distros have the old gnome, I started on open source but I have gotten tired of fixing the latest distros on occasion, just a glitch I think with the desktops changing...etc
[03:52] <holstein> yeah, if you got tricky hardware, it can be challening
[03:52] <holstein> i had a via chip i was running xp on for a while
[03:52] <holstein> surprisingly, that machine came with SUSE on it
[03:52] <nit-wit> holstein, I have a acer netbook, but tend to tweak till it breaks.;)
[03:52] <holstein> the openchrome driver caught up finally, not with 3d though
[03:53] <nit-wit> is that for the chrome OS or browser
[03:53] <truepurple> Well I used neighbors computer, win7 detect the drives
[03:53] <holstein> neither... its the open via driver AFAIK
[03:53] <holstein> nothing to do with chrome OS/google
[03:54] <truepurple> So somehow ubuntu is messed up, I am pretty sure a restart would fix it, but how might I fix this without restarting?
[03:54] <nit-wit> Ah I was not sure of my wording as well.
[03:54] <holstein> truepurple: logout
[03:54] <holstein> ?
[03:55] <truepurple> holstein, there isnt another way?
[03:55] <holstein> im sure there is... whats wrong?
[03:56] <holstein> with linux, i tend to choose my battles... and sometimes i have time to really get in there and see whats up... usually i just restart
[03:56] <truepurple> Its not seeing my usb flash drives
[03:56] <truepurple> the lights on the drives tell me they are properly put in holstein
[03:56] <holstein> OH... did you say 'eject' ?
[03:57] <truepurple> I might have
[03:57] <holstein> i find after 'eject' i dont see it in sudo fdisk -l even
[03:57] <truepurple> So a reset is the only way?
[03:57] <holstein> for?
[03:57] <truepurple> to use the drives on ubuntu again
[03:58] <holstein> ive had some funky-ness go on with USB sticks that were dying... but usually i just plug it back in and get it working
[03:58] <truepurple> Well that isnt working
[03:58] <holstein> if you dont see it in sudo fdisk -l, i would try it in another machine
[03:58] <holstein> truepurple: what isnt?
[03:59] <truepurple> seeingg the usb flash drive
[03:59] <truepurple> drives
[03:59] <truepurple> and I did try them on another machine I told you
[03:59] <truepurple> the drives work, its ubuntu that is messed up
[03:59] <holstein> truepurple: pull it out... put i back in (mabye even on anther port) and open a terminal
[03:59] <holstein> run...
[03:59] <holstein> sudo fdisk -l
[03:59] <holstein> see if you see it there
[04:00] <holstein> truepurple: i dont think its messed up... if you've been pulling it out without unmounting, that could be the issue
[04:00] <truepurple> I see only what looks like my hdd
[04:00] <truepurple> ejecting is unmounting, isnt it?
[04:00] <holstein> truepurple: if i were you, i would try the stick in another box (again) while the machine is rebooting
[04:01] <holstein> truepurple: ejecting is more than unmounting AFAIK
[04:01] <holstein> its like unmounting, and removing it from the system
[04:01] <truepurple> So how do I add it back into the system?
[04:02] <holstein> well, the way i have done it in the past is by literally plugging in back in
[04:02] <holstein> im not sure whats up though... id have to be in front of it
[04:03] <truepurple> well I did pull it in and out, to the point where I worry about the contacts getting worn off or something
[04:03] <holstein> truepurple: right, so try it in another box, and while thats going on, reboot the linux box
[04:03] <holstein> then, you can test further
[04:05] <truepurple> holstein, I told you twice before that I did try them on another computer, and they work
[04:05] <holstein> truepurple: interesting
[04:05] <holstein> this'll be the third time i suggest doing it again ;)
[04:06] <truepurple> doing what again?
[04:06] <truepurple> trying to see if the usb flash drives work on another computer? What is the point of doing that more then once?
[04:08] <truepurple> holstein?
[04:08] <holstein> truepurple: yup
[04:08] <truepurple> What is the point of doing that more then once?
[04:08] <holstein> i would like for you to take the stick to another box *again* while that machine reboots
[04:09] <holstein> theres nothing else to do except email the manufacturer of the stick ;)
[04:09] <truepurple> you mean when the OS is shutting down or loading up?
[04:10] <holstein> truepurple: i mean, take the stick out, reboot
[04:10] <holstein> and while you are waiting, try the stick in another box
[04:10] <holstein> then, report...
[04:10] <truepurple> Why try the stick on another computer, a second time?
[04:10] <holstein> truepurple: do what you want...
[04:10] <truepurple> holstein, I am just asking what the purpose of that is
[04:11] <holstein> youve been pulling it in and out of that box though, and you dont know if that has affected it
[04:11] <holstein> truepurple: why now?
[04:11] <holstein> not*
[04:11] <holstein> you'll be waiting on the machine to reboot
[04:11] <holstein> how about, just because you are here asking for help, and its a suggestion that you can do, or not do
[04:11] <truepurple> because its already been done and its not going to tell me anything a second time
[04:11] <holstein> you dont *have* to
[04:12] <truepurple> I didnt say I did have to, I just asked you for a reason
[04:12] <holstein> i just feel like you could have borked the USB stick pulling it in and out and you'll know its still functional when you get back to the machine after its booted back up
[04:42] <truepurple> well I was looking for help fixing ubuntus problem without restarting, but I guess don't know
[05:32] <JackyAlcine> truepurple, does the stick have your Ubuntu installation on it?
[06:31] <truepurple> Making a start up disk on a usb flash, every 5 minutes or how ever long, it asks for my password again. How do I prevent this? Also, that it gets interrupted like this, might that case the installation to fail?
[06:36] <truepurple> oh and holstein, as expected a restart fixed the usb drive problem
[11:04] <rabe_> I've got troubles installing 11.04 from usb on an eeepc. live or persistance mode works fine..
[11:05] <rabe_> but after i select "install paralell to windows" it reboots to windows. (before the partition selector comes up) any ideas?
[11:08] <rabe_> however, i can select "something else" and then the partition manager comes up
[11:12] <truepurple> I don't know, but I have something slightly similar to your problem
[11:13] <truepurple> rabe_, When making a usb flash "live CD", how do you stop authentication from asking for your password every 5 minutes?
[11:16] <ikonia> rabe_: sounds like your grub config not correct
[11:16] <ikonia> rabe_: did you install using wubi or onto a seperate partition ?
[11:17] <Sidewinder1> ikonia, rabe_ is addressing that issue in #ubuntu (cross-post).
[11:17] <rabe_> ikonia,i just grabed the lastest 11.04 desktop.iso and converted it to usb stick.
[11:17] <ikonia> oh dear
[11:17] <ikonia> rabe_: better if you can keep it in one channel
[11:18] <rabe_> sry
[11:18] <ikonia> rabe_: try not to cross-post the same issue in multiple channels
[11:18] <ikonia> no problem at all
[11:18] <ikonia> rabe_: I'll pick it up with you in #ubuntu
[12:21] <s-fox> Hello.
[12:43] <thewrath> hey all
[12:43] <thewrath> anyone here?
[12:44] <Sidewinder1> Mornin'
[12:44] <thewrath> Mornin'
[12:44] <thewrath> i have a lot of people trying to connect to my system via ssh
[12:45] <thewrath> i have port forwarding on for me
[12:45] <thewrath> Is there anyway if i would capture the packets that i can see what they are trying to connect as?
[12:45] <thewrath> this deals with snort but i thought i would ask here first
[12:46] <Sidewinder1> thewrath, I know absolutely nothing about ssh; never needed to use/learn it, sorry. :-(
[12:48] <Sidewinder1> You may want to try #ubuntu; lotsa knowledgeable folks there.
[18:34] <thewrath> hey all
[19:00] <florian> how do i swich between unity and ubuntu classic?
[19:36] <florian> i'll ask in #ubuntu :)
[23:21] <bobweaver_> hi there I am using Kubuntu and am trying to make it so the obsidian coast color-theme is my default one so when I run something as root say dolphin the color scheme is obsidan coast I have replaced all files in /usr/share/kde4/apps/desktop-theme and there is no default file ?? there has to be a file that I can swap out right? Question is where is that file