[01:01] <cprofitt> mhall119: ping
[01:02] <cprofitt> cjohnston: ping
[01:53] <mhall119> cprofitt: pong
[01:54] <cprofitt> hey mhall119, looking for some advice on how to get started with django and potentially work up to being able to help you guys
[01:54] <mhall119> cprofitt: awesome, loco-directory or summit?
[01:54] <cprofitt> perhaps better to email you for the details...
[01:54] <cprofitt> either, both... just want to learn enough to help
[01:54] <cprofitt> been a goal I have put off for several years
[01:54] <mhall119> cprofitt: cool, loco-directory is pretty easy to get setup nowadays
[01:55] <mhall119> cprofitt: just bzr branch lp:loco-directory
[01:55] <mhall119> the INSTALL file has instructions, you may need to apt-get install a few packages, but then it's just a couple make commands
[01:55] <cprofitt> I know that stuff... but looking more what tools I should be using to just learn django
[01:56] <cprofitt> I assume I need to build a 'test server'... and not sure if I should just use Idle or some other tool for the code stuff
[01:56] <mhall119> http://djangoproject.org has great documentation and a 4-part tutorial that'll give you a good idea of how Django's pieces all work together
[01:56] <cprofitt> I am transitioning from .Net stuff and visual studio, but do not think I need an IDE.
[01:56] <mhall119> cprofitt: Django has a built-in server that's useful for development
[01:56] <cprofitt> cool... do you use a virtualbox server?
[01:57] <mhall119> nope, I use Gedit, others use vim, emacs, whatever
[01:57] <mhall119> nope
[01:57] <cprofitt> cool... I like SciTe
[01:57] <cprofitt> for a lot of stuff... but trying to learn vim
[01:57] <mhall119> the Makefile creates a python virtual environment that keeps the python dependencies for loco-directory out of your system packages
[01:58] <mhall119> once you get the code, run "sudo make depends" to isntall what few system packages it needs
[01:58]  * cprofitt nods
[01:58] <mhall119> then "make init" to setup the local environemtn
[01:58] <mhall119> then "make run" to run the test server
[01:59] <mhall119> "make depends" is just: apt-get install python2.6 python2.6-dev python-virtualenv libjs-jquery libjs-jquery-ui iso-codes gettext
[01:59] <cprofitt> k
[01:59] <mhall119> so, 3 commands to get setup
[01:59] <mhall119> 4 if you count bzr branch
[02:00] <mhall119>  /join #ubuntu-website too, we'll help you there and you can join in the conversations
[02:00] <cprofitt> I hope to get myself up to 'good enough' by UDS
[02:01] <cprofitt> and then spend some time with you guys there
[02:01] <mhall119> we're going to have a summit hackathon next global jam, there will be remote participation
[02:01] <mhall119> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-florida/1056/detail/
[02:02] <cprofitt> cool.
[02:08] <cprofitt> thanks for the tips
[02:11] <mhall119> no problem, we're happy whenever someone says they want to start helping
[02:15] <cprofitt> I can't promise anything yet as I will be teaching myself django for the next month or so...
[02:15] <cprofitt> but I will try
[02:50] <bkerensa> Hello :) Any Loco Team people around? I need some help
[02:52] <cprofitt> what can I help with
[02:59] <cprofitt> bkerensa: do you still need help?
[02:59] <bkerensa> Yeah
[03:00] <cprofitt> what with?
[03:01] <bkerensa> cprofitt: So basically our old loco lead is deployed and has been and I took the role and I'm trying to get our loco organized and I need access to the Loco events so I can add events but have no idea how to do this since we did not have a launchpad until recently (oddly we have a forum, mailing list and irc channel) any direction would be helpful :)
[03:01] <cprofitt> what is your loco?
[03:01] <bkerensa> cprofitt: We even hosted the Ubuntu both at OSCON 
[03:01] <bkerensa> Ubuntu Oregon (#ubuntu-us-or)
[03:02] <cprofitt> do you have a launchpad team or wiki page?
[03:03] <bkerensa> Yeah
[03:03] <cprofitt> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-oregon
[03:03] <bkerensa> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOregon
[03:03] <cprofitt> that one....
[03:04] <bkerensa> yeah thats our launchpad
[03:04] <cprofitt> ok
[03:04] <bkerensa> I just set it up two days ago even though we have been established awhile on all other levels
[03:04] <cprofitt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OregonTeam
[03:04] <cprofitt> that looks to be your wiki
[03:05] <cprofitt> is Paul the loco leader who is deployed?
[03:05] <bkerensa> Yeah thats it... Sorry I'm a bit tired I have been at OSCON :P
[03:05] <cprofitt> no problem
[03:05] <bkerensa> Nope... Thomas Mashos
[03:05] <cprofitt> ok
[03:05] <bkerensa> He is the deployed guy
[03:06] <bkerensa> and he handed it off to Mark Terranova who happened to move to California and due to the distance he couldnt be interim anymore so asked me to take over and we have been doing release parties and did OSCON... CLS and did stuff with Jono
[03:06] <cprofitt> Terranova?
[03:06] <bkerensa> Yep
[03:06] <cprofitt> alright
[03:07] <bkerensa> You know him?
[03:07] <bkerensa> :)
[03:07] <cprofitt> Yes
[03:07] <bkerensa> funny guy with his penguin suit
[03:08] <cprofitt> https://launchpad.net/~locoteams
[03:08] <cprofitt> go to that page
[03:08] <cprofitt> click "Add one of my teams"
[03:09] <bkerensa> ok :) I figured thats what I had to do but I thought we might have to be accepted first
[03:09] <cprofitt> add the Oregon team
[03:09] <cprofitt> then, yes, you will have to be approved
[03:10] <cprofitt> then I think your team will show up in loco.ubuntu.com
[03:10] <bkerensa> ok
[03:10] <bkerensa> cool
[03:10] <cprofitt> in the interim -- though it should not be long
[03:10] <bkerensa> I did that... So I will just get our members to join our launchpad team now... Kinda odd nobody had done this in the past :P
[03:10] <cprofitt> you could add some events to your wiki page and announce them on the forums
[03:11] <bkerensa> Yeah were doing that :)
[03:11] <bkerensa> thanks for the help... Were you at OSCON?
[03:11] <cprofitt> make sure you change the wiki link on the launchpad page
[03:11] <cprofitt> No, I am in NY
[03:11] <cprofitt> a little far for OSCON... though I would have loved to have attended
[03:12] <bkerensa> One other thing how would I get mailinglist switched over to me?
[03:12] <bkerensa> oh yeah!
[03:13] <cprofitt> 8the easiest way is to have the current admin give you the admin password
[03:13] <cprofitt> but if they have been deployed that is likely difficult
[03:13] <cprofitt> in that case you may need to talk to one of the loco council and let them know what is happening
[03:14] <cprofitt> it looks like Mark may have that password though
[03:14] <cprofitt> in which case he should be able to help you out
[03:15] <cprofitt> yeah -- Mark is listed as the owner of the list
[03:15] <cprofitt> he is still around I assume
[03:19] <bkerensa> Oh yeah :) I will just give him a call in the next few days I imagine he is driving home to California right now :P 
[03:19]  * cprofitt nods
[03:21] <cprofitt> I think Mark is a Fedora Ambassador... and works for ZaReason...
[03:21] <bkerensa> Yeah
[03:22] <bkerensa> Which is why he couldnt help with the Ubuntu Booth... He was at the Fedora Booth... We all hung out though and of course Jono is amazing
[03:22] <cprofitt> yes, Jono is amazing
[03:41] <cprofitt> night bkerensa 
[03:44] <thefinn93> hello all
[03:44] <thefinn93> we're trying to get the Ubuntu Oregon team up and running and I'm supposed to implement channel logging
[03:44] <thefinn93> I was directed here to ask how
[03:44] <thefinn93> anyone know?
[03:46] <thefinn93> oh nevermind, someone else did it
[07:39] <YoBoY> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrenchTeam/TeamReports/11/July team report for july
[08:49] <olive> thanks  YoBoY :)
[08:49] <YoBoY> you're welcome olive, next time you'll write it :)
[08:54] <olive> it could be Tarnefys...
[08:57] <olive> next time, we should have less than 3 things to write. So I can try
[08:58] <olive> s/thingss/events/
[10:05] <YoBoY> olive: don't say that, I can always organize last minute ubuntu hours :D
[10:07] <olive> I can copy-past that
[10:07] <olive> s/that/it/
[15:38] <bkerensa|ZzZz> paultag: Are you around?
[15:43] <paultag> bkerensa|ZzZz: hody doodie
[15:43] <bkerensa|ZzZz> paultag: Hi
[15:43] <paultag> bkerensa|ZzZz: I sent you an email, did you get it?
[15:43] <paultag> bkerensa: *
[15:43] <paultag> bkerensa: also -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto#Team_Naming_Standards
[15:44] <paultag> bkerensa: IRC: ubuntu-us-SS (ie; ubuntu-us-ut for Utah, ubuntu-us-ny for New York, etc)
[15:44] <bkerensa> paultag: All I got was the decline notice from launchpad... It said a url slug needed to be adjusted but as far as I can see we are following the standards set in the Howto
[15:44] <paultag> Oh shit, that's old for LP
[15:44] <bkerensa> ?
[15:44] <paultag> bkerensa: yeah, that page is out of date for LP. Should be ubuntu-us-state_code (or state full id if it's short enough)
[15:44] <paultag> bkerensa: because of things like georga, which is a state and a country
[15:44] <paultag> I'll fix that now
[15:44] <bkerensa> Our channel is #ubuntu-us-or
[15:45] <bkerensa> ?
[15:45] <paultag> bkerensa: that's fine
[15:45] <paultag> bkerensa: did you get my email?
[15:45] <bkerensa> nope
[15:45] <bkerensa> :P
[15:45] <bkerensa> just something about a url slug
[15:45] <paultag> bkerensa: http://pastebin.com/nVr3VVJc
[15:45] <bkerensa> I found it :) it went to spam for some reason
[15:46] <paultag> Righto
[15:46] <paultag> bkerensa: those standards are old, I've never bothered to really read them :)
[15:48] <bkerensa> paultag: So we need to change our channel name? I mean most other states even "accepted" locos have the same format we do and our channel has been around quite a long time... As for the e-mail thing for some reason launchpad wasn't allowing me to set contact e-mail Ill try again
[15:48] <paultag> bkerensa: no, launchpad name
[15:48] <bkerensa> oh ok
[15:48] <bkerensa> Ill fix that
[15:48] <paultag> bkerensa: yes, they do, but that's ex-post-facto :)
[15:48] <paultag> bkerensa: we don't want to be assholes to existing teams that are doing well :)
[15:49] <paultag> bkerensa: the IRC stuff is cool, just LP needs to move over, we're trying to have a bit more of a standard :)
[15:49] <bkerensa> yeah
[15:50] <bkerensa> paultag: So it wont let me set my e-mail for contact since its associated with my personal launchpad? Can I just put our Mailing list for contact?
[15:50] <paultag> bkerensa: I mean for your personal lp page
[15:50] <paultag> bkerensa: when I go to your page I can't see your email
[15:50] <bkerensa> oh
[15:51] <bkerensa> :)
[15:51] <paultag> bkerensa: :)
[15:51] <bkerensa> Yeah that was to prevent spam
[15:51] <bkerensa> :P
[15:51] <paultag> bkerensa: you have to be logged in to see it
[15:51] <paultag> :)
[15:53] <bkerensa> paultag: Ok e-mail is done and I updated the Launchpad slug for the Loco
[15:53] <paultag> bkerensa: :D
[15:53] <paultag> bkerensa: let me check it out, sec
[15:53] <paultag> bkerensa: looks flawless
[15:53] <paultag> bkerensa: let me add you, second
[15:54] <paultag> bkerensa: all set!
[15:54] <paultag> just approve it and it's all set :)
[15:54] <bkerensa> cool... now we can add events next year when OSCON comes again :P
[15:54] <paultag> bkerensa: totally! :)
[15:56] <bkerensa> paultag: I have a question so... There is another team on launchpad purporting to be the Oregon LoCo how should we approach that? It causes some confusion to people 
[15:56] <paultag> bkerensa: do you have a link?
[15:57] <paultag> bkerensa: ah, shit. Can you request to join locoteams again, launchpad's barfing as usual
[15:57] <bkerensa> I will have to find it again... One of our members came across it
[15:58] <bkerensa> paultag: Yep done
[15:58] <paultag> bkerensa: all set :)
[15:58] <paultag> bkerensa: you should show up on loco.ubuntu soon
[15:59] <bkerensa> paultag: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-oregon-loco
[15:59] <bkerensa> thats the other one
[15:59] <bkerensa> I tried contacting the owner but no response
[16:00] <paultag> bkerensa: Ah, looks like they're not a part of locoteams, or anything. You've got the namespace, and there's one member. You have right to the US Oregon namespace
[16:00] <bkerensa> k
[16:00] <paultag> bkerensa: Send them a mail and cc me, and loco-council@lists.ubuntu, and then we can follow up
[16:00] <bkerensa> will do
[16:00] <paultag> bkerensa: if they don't get back, I'll have it removed, if he does, then we can talk about moving it or him deleting it
[16:01] <bkerensa> paultag: Sounds good I will send it in a bit I gotta make some breakfast :) thanks for all the help
[16:01] <paultag> bkerensa: sure thing! Good morning :)
[16:05] <paultag> bkerensa: got the mail, ACK'd, cheers!
[16:42] <Ronnie> ping nigelb, on 17 juli, I had send a mail to trademarks@ but i have still no response. Should i wait for response a few days more or can i send a new mail?
[17:06] <nigelb> Ronnie: hm, the best person to talk to is AlanBell. He probably knows the Canonical folks who deal with it.
[17:07] <Ronnie> AlanBell: See my message above
[18:36] <cprofitt> bkerensa: did you issue get resolved with Oregon?
[19:01] <AlanBell> Ronnie: they are massively unresponsive, most times they seem to take no action. Don't worry about it, if they wanted to do something then you have done your bit.
[19:08] <paultag> cprofitt: yeah he did :)
[19:12] <bkerensa> cprofitt: Yeah... Sorry I just woke up from my third mini-nap :P
[19:13] <cprofitt> paultag: thanks bro
[19:13] <cprofitt> paultag: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-oregon-loco
[19:13] <cprofitt> there appears to be another LP team for it though
[19:14] <cprofitt> not sure how we should clean that up
[19:15] <paultag> cprofitt: yeah man
[19:16] <paultag> cprofitt: yeah saw that
[19:16] <paultag> cprofitt: we're dealing with it, email sent and we're working it out
[19:16] <cprofitt> k
[19:16] <paultag> cprofitt: if they don't ack, I'll have to see what we're going to do
[19:16] <cprofitt> always interesting, heh?
[19:16] <paultag> meh :)
[19:17]  * paultag gets back to work on syn