[06:12] morning all of you on this cold sat morn [06:30] bbl [09:23] lo superfly drubin and others [09:23] Maaz, coffee on [09:23] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [09:27] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [09:28] Maaz, ty [09:28] Enjoy Kilos [09:47] Morning everyone. [09:50] lo Wolfeyes [09:50] no one here [09:52] That's ok, still working on this program prefferences [09:53] -f [09:53] Still seeing how to work that other o/s as well lol (Not saying the name...lol) [10:38] . [10:39] hi pateevee [10:39] hallo oom [10:39] :P [10:39] lol. wie is jy [10:39] :O [10:39] hoe meen oom? [10:40] lmga het ek jou vergeet of het jy n ander nick wat ek ken? [10:41] miskien [10:41] hehe [10:41] ek't gou irc vir my pa opgestel [10:41] sal sien of hy dit wel gaan gebruik [10:41] ah nuvolari [10:41] hy noem hierdie sy TV (teevee) [10:42] hehe [10:42] ja nee, ek weet ek is nie baie oorspronklik met nicks nie [10:42] se vir hom ek se dag oom [10:43] elvis left the building for a second [10:43] wb Wolfeyes [10:43] hehe [10:43] Kilos: so ek't ubuntu via wubi hier geinstalleer [10:44] eish [10:44] i understood that the lappy came with Win 7 home... but it has professional on [10:44] so I thought i'll keep it there :P [10:44] ek like daai wubi niks. ons het te veel gesukkel daarmee [10:44] hmm. why oom? [10:44] so far no problems [10:44] vra die wolf hoe ons gesukkel hey [10:45] except I did not find the windows filesystem where I expected it [10:46] win pro costs much more than home so you scored inna way [10:46] Kilos: exactly oom :P [10:46] but I don't know what I exactly score [10:46] it's pretty useless by default [10:46] but i still think they only good for the dustbin [10:46] in a way [10:46] did you get the cd with it [10:47] I uninstalled MS office, norton internet, and all other stuffs [10:48] dont leave it without a good antivirus [10:48] or firewall [10:48] Kilos: I installed avast! [10:48] yip thats one of the best if not the best [10:49] and doesnt slow the pc like amg i think it was called [10:49] maar ek leer hom ubuntu :P so hy moet probeer om ubuntu eerder te gebruik [10:49] ja ek stem leer hom mooi [10:49] het jy die cd saam gekry [10:50] ja oom, beide Win 7 Pro en die drywer cd vir die lappy [10:50] en ons kan hom altyd help van hier af [10:50] daai win 7 can jy verkoop ek dink [10:51] as ek dit reg het is win pro n paar duisend rande werd [10:52] as my pa regkom sal ek later vir hom net ubuntu opsit [10:52] nee oom, dis net vir verspreiding saam met die lappy [10:52] kom ons hoop [10:52] ek dink nie my pa gaan dit so lekker regkry nie :P [10:52] al is ons almal hier om te help [10:53] hy is nie 'n geek soos oom was nie [10:53] ja maar as jy n wettige cd het can jy dit op nog 2 pcs installeer [10:53] ai [10:56] ek probeer nou vir my pa oom se blog wys [10:56] dalk probeer hy ook blog :P [10:56] maar ek glo nie [10:56] lmga [10:58] * Wolfeyes scrolls up [10:59] pateevee, kry ook vir hom zonealarm firewall [11:00] hey pateevee [11:00] Lol @ elvis leaving. [11:00] lo Wolfeyes [11:01] brb [11:01] oom, ek't oom in my pa se google+ sirkel gesit [11:01] hy't nog nie baie mense nie :P [11:02] dankie pateevee ek sal gaan kuier wanneer die data groei [11:02] dis 100% oom [11:03] dit mag dalk lank neem vir my pa om te reply [11:03] met die hand wat sukkel en so [11:03] so hy en my ma skype maar net [11:03] np [11:03] oh ya ek vergeet van skype [11:04] maar dis duur op broadband [11:06] It does use a lot. But I think those new data contracts you showed me Kilos are pretty good. [11:06] The one's from Mtn. [11:09] yeah if you can spend time after midnight [11:09] ye, that's the one my parents have [11:09] otherwise its only 10g [11:10] im sure skyping will eat that in less than a month [11:10] If I remember correctly they spoke of off peak not midnight. [11:10] oh maybe [11:10] Off peak is 20h00 to 7h00 [11:10] ye, the only problem I have now is that they can't check the data usage without going to windows or putting the sim in a phone [11:10] bah [11:11] maybe they have a data usage monitor on a website? [11:11] Kilos: maybe you know oom? [11:11] lol i put sim in fone every night [11:11] Can't you load the mtn program in wine just to see the data usage? [11:11] there is a vodafone goodie pateevee [11:11] or that ^ [11:12] the only wine I like is the wine from the cape region :P [11:12] lol [11:13] Didn't you say you on win7 ? [11:13] pateevee, look at vodafone mobile connect i dunno if it will see data [11:13] In the new hardware there is a place on the tabs to check your balance if you loaded it in win. [11:13] or software... er [11:14] yes but he wants his dad to use ubuntu Wolfeyes [11:14] Wolfeyes: win 7 with dualboot/wubi ubuntu [11:14] ya :-/ [11:14] wait wait [11:14] there's that mobile thingy [11:14] I need to find it [11:14] but then you on mtn also so vodacom wouldn't work. [11:14] yeah i am hunting for the other one [11:14] there's a tool in synaptic [11:15] wammu or gammu [11:15] ? [11:15] ya! [11:15] that oom [11:15] thanks [11:15] Haven't heard of them. [11:16] only they cant see my saudi modem [11:16] sigh [11:16] there was another thing too but i forget its name now [11:17] there's a lot of new stuff for gsm devices [11:17] gsm-utils [11:17] and gnome-something too [11:17] gnome-phone-manager [11:18] geez, I almost removed a guy from my g+ circle today [11:18] telling me to use OpenOffice over LibreOffice [11:18] pffft [11:18] lol [11:18] supposedly something about file issues [11:20] lol [11:20] my dad is now uberconnected :P [11:20] g+, twitter, irc, googletalk [11:21] all in the blink of an eye [11:21] hee hee and no pidgin? [11:21] empathy [11:21] i prefer pidgin [11:21] moet net kyk of daar 'n autojoin is vir irc [11:22] ah, there we go [11:22] should be automagically connecting [11:23] pateevee, where does that gnome-phone-manager go and hide [11:24] weet nog nie oom [11:24] it just finished installing [11:24] will have a look now [11:25] ah in system tools [11:25] applications system tools [11:25] you might need to activate system tools [11:26] no thats for smsing [11:26] grrr [11:28] i cant find it [11:28] sigh [11:28] wammu freezing on me [11:28] oh my [11:31] mine wants to connect to a fone via bluetooth so i gave up because the modem got no bluetooth [11:32] ya, having problems too [11:33] it's working on my laptop though [11:36] maybe that gnome-phone-manager might see the modem. wammu wants bt connecting [11:36] grrr [11:37] giving up [11:37] :( [11:38] yeah maybe better to put sim in fone [11:39] that fone manager is in /usr/share but i dunno why it didnt give a shortcut somewhere [11:39] :( hehe [11:41] waso oom? [11:42] ek het die search opsie gebruik [11:43] en dis in filesystem [11:44] /usr/share/app-install/desktop [11:44] maar daar niks op desktop nie [11:44] eish [11:45] maar miskien wil dit ook net smse stuur [11:47] wat is irda pateevee [11:47] infra rooi oom [11:47] hoe is die modem gekonnekteer [11:47] eish [11:48] en at [11:49] at is ek nie seker nie [11:49] dis 'n protocol [11:49] het n ander ding hier ook [11:50] vir fone [11:50] gMobileMedia [11:50] maar dit soek hoe jy wil konnekt [11:51] hmm. ja nee, ek raak so bietjie verlore oom [11:51] ek dink dis oraait vir actual fone [11:51] ja ek dink nie hulle werk op 3g modems nie [11:52] en baie mense gebruik hulle deesdae [11:53] veral met lappies [11:55] sjoe ek dors nou al hierdie gesoekery [11:55] Maaz, coffee on [11:55] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [11:59] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [11:59] Maaz, ty fella [11:59] Who is your fella Kilos? [11:59] Maaz, ty [11:59] Enjoy Kilos [11:59] ok, gaan gou windoze toe om te check of als nog werk :P [12:00] o, en ek moet pidgin daar install [12:00] bbiab [12:00] lol [12:15] pidgin [12:15] hehe [12:16] pidgin is grand [12:16] kan dit launch met startup oom? [12:16] in windows [12:16] ja [12:16] startup apps ek dink [12:17] ja [12:17] vra Wolfeyes [12:17] Wolfeyes, ping [12:17] I'm here [12:17] Just reading quick [12:17] hy het dit al lank op win [12:17] geez, my dad has 7.3 GB bandwidth left [12:17] And I only realize it now :P [12:17] en debbie het dit ook [12:17] it expires on the 21st [12:18] wow [12:18] stuur bietjie [12:18] lol [12:18] You should be able to add it to start up programs [12:19] was a mission [12:19] geez [12:19] just trying to find it [12:19] Haven't used win7 to long [12:19] but... there's no way to tell it to connect co a channel [12:20] *to [12:20] yes there is [12:20] yes there is [12:20] snap [12:20] You owe me a coke [12:20] lol [12:21] pateevee, accounts [12:21] add [12:21] oh you mean to a channel here? [12:22] Kilos: ja oom [12:22] i use xchat for here [12:22] even works on windows [12:23] Maaz, google xchat for win7 [12:23] Kilos: "xchat.org • View topic - xchat and windows 7" http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?t=4842 :: "XChat: Multiplatform Chat Program" http://www.xchat.org/ :: "XChat: Multiplatform Chat Program" http://xchat.org/download/ :: "X-Chat 2 for Windows" http://www.silverex.org/ :: "Portable XChat-WDK for Windows 7 - An IRC chat program - Windows 7 ..." http://www.windows7download.com/win7-portable-xchat-wdk/patjqpxi.html :: "xchat Windows 7 [12:23] xchat is beter vir toppies [12:24] lol [12:25] pidgin lekker vir mxit,msn aim en so aan [12:26] 2mins just testing [12:28] hmm [12:28] Ok pateevee lets have a look and see [12:29] Xchat, Network list, [12:29] Click on freenode, [12:29] he is on pidgin Wolfeyes [12:29] then connect [12:29] Not xchat... [12:30] Ok hold on... [12:30] You could have done it with xchat too. [12:30] xchat aqua ftw! :) [12:30] (but thats os-x only) :( [12:30] strangely I cant stand normal xchat [12:32] bleh [12:32] 2mins [12:32] not going to struggle with xchat [12:32] lol [12:32] it's not like my dad is connected 24/7 [12:33] unlike us [12:33] do you want to use pidgin just for irc pateevee [12:37] * Symmetri1 sighs and wanders off to finish packing and then go to london [12:37] back from there I guess [12:37] lol === Symmetri1 is now known as Symmetria [12:37] heh, london tomorrow, amsterdam on wednesday [12:37] ghana on sunday [12:38] crazy [12:38] classic http://verydemotivational.memebase.com/2010/02/25/demotivational-posters-blitzkrieg/?from=recMap1 [12:38] eish [12:38] I like debtceilingcat! [12:38] http://debtceilingcat.tumblr.com/ [12:39] lol @ debt ceiling cat sees four treeeelllion dollars [15:42] Hi Maaz, do you have some advice for me please? Trying to update on my wife's Ubuntu 11.04, feedback says "it seems that the daemon died" [16:00] * nlsthzn waves [16:52] Hi nlsthzn [16:52] Hallo Oom Langjan :) [16:53] how are you doing? [16:55] Oh, I am OK... Got a nice long night shift to get passed but nothing really to complain about :)... how about things over there in ZA? [17:01] Fine thanks, just a long winter. Fortunately we are in a warm area [17:03] Yup. It has sounded like a tough one so far. Not something I miss (then again, the tough summer here more than makes up for it :/ ) [17:05] Have you any idea what to do when update mgr on Ubuntu 11.04 says "it seems like the daemon died"? [17:08] Langjan: Hmmm... no that is a new one for me... To update the package info an easy command to enter in a terminal is "sudo apt-get update" (without the quotation marks) ... Maybe try that and see if there is another error? [17:18] unable to locate package updates [17:18] update mgr says updates are downloaded but not installed [17:19] Sorry, the wife's calling me to dinner,hope you get thro you long shift ok [17:40] Langjan: next step after that one is to run "sudo apt-get upgrade" [17:46] Thanks nlsthzn, that has gotten it excited about something - running like the neighbor's kid's nose... [17:46] Langjan: haha... let us hope it is running in the right direction... [17:47] lol, looks like it knows where it's going [17:47] you can add the two command together... "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" ... this is all you ever need to keep your install up to date in any version of Ubuntu ;) [17:47] ok many thanks, that's good to know [17:48] Hi kilos [17:48] evening all of ya [17:48] hiya Langjan [17:48] hoe gaan dit daar [17:49] * nlsthzn is glad to have been of assistance [17:49] * nlsthzn waves @ Uncle Kilos [17:49] goed dankie, nlsthzn has just helped me get my wife's machine to do the updates you suggested to start with [17:50] good so she is happy too now [17:50] 120 Mb of them [17:50] don't know yet, will see what the icons etc look like when were done [17:51] yeah. lol i got 120m thaT I HAVE BLOCKED FROM UPDATING HERE [17:51] sorry for caps [17:51] Langjan: is there a problem with your interface on 11.04? [17:51] that's what John Smit said today [17:51] sorry for caps [17:51] * nlsthzn doesn't want to talk/think about rugby until the World Cup... :/ [17:52] lol [17:52] they played maar sleg [17:52] school team [17:53] * superfly forgets that not everyone in here is a geek [17:53] hee hee hee [17:53] agreed, don't know about interface but the icons and some sites, e-mails etc keep on going small and some on the desktop seem unable to adjust at all [17:53] you have also watched superfly [17:53] what is his "rugby" you speak of? [17:53] and at the time you said you enjoyed it [17:53] *this [17:54] First time ever that the 'boks have conceded 80 points in 2 consecutive matches.. [17:55] also first time ever they have a g.m..t for a coach [17:56] so you updating now Langjan [17:56] what did i give you wrong [17:57] hey nlsthzn [17:57] nlsthzn, there is a problem with icon size settings and settings on e-mails and websites that keep going small, almost infinitesmal [17:57] yes, updating now kilos [17:57] ok we see when its done [17:59] Interesting problem... Is this happening in Unity or Gnome-classic (or both)? [17:59] seems like its done, just doing some checks now [18:00] Gnome classic, how do I get to unity? But I want to get back to gnome [18:01] stay on gnome till pc is working fine [18:01] one step at a time [18:01] :) [18:02] ok, the sizes on thunderbird seem fine now (hooray) but the icons and eg the little circle that says wait i'm working are still very small [18:03] then go check those settings again in system appearance [18:04] other icons are the ones in the panel that indicate sound, power, mail, where do I set these in system appearance? [18:04] system preferences appearance fonts [18:05] are you there Langjan [18:05] I'm here but it is, inter alia, the icons next to the headings in preferences appearance [18:06] yes now go to fonts [18:07] in application font tick where it says 10 and go to 14 [18:07] ok but be patient please, I am working on 2 computers [18:07] ok [18:08] it is on 14, has been all the time [18:08] oh my goodness [18:08] and the others [18:08] aha [18:08] ahaha [18:08] lol [18:09] my system is on 11 and those icons are fine... [18:10] but they do not seem to be adjustable anywhere that I have been and I have been around. [18:10] i dont see system on maverick [18:10] application, document, desktop,window title and fixed width [18:11] are you still in those appearance settings [18:13] youve lost me now, application, document? [18:14] in system. appearance [18:14] fonts [18:14] there must be 4 or so steeings you can change [18:15] yes, none of those work on the icons in question [18:15] they are all on 14, and a bit too large but easy to rectify [18:15] oh are your panel icons tight size [18:16] and the applications one should change all your applications font sizes [18:16] only some of them, those that do not react to settings pixel changes [18:17] oh my then i am stuck [18:17] nlsthzn, help [18:17] join the club [18:17] lol [18:17] lmga [18:17] min4e changed all my applications font sizes [18:18] whats min4e? [18:18] typo [18:18] mine [18:18] typo? lost me again, onthou ek's oud [18:18] i look at eack key when typing and sometimes miss what i aiming at [18:19] typing errors [18:19] me too [18:19] lmaa [18:19] thats called typo's [18:19] tried a typing course but i'm too far gone [18:20] have you looked at you icons in the problem areas since updating [18:20] yeah me too, my fingers cant bend like that [18:20] yeeeess! no change [18:20] ok thats thunderbird and what else [18:21] nlsthzn, ping [18:21] only the ones that are adjustable have come right, tbird and browsing sites, let me check that one [18:21] alo... [18:22] neil his icons are right it settings now but tb is still small [18:22] you use tb hey? [18:22] I have read all that has been written but I am bit stumped... [18:22] Is the problem only in Thunderbird? [18:22] oh my [18:22] websites are alos fine now [18:22] also [18:22] he checking others now [18:22] yay [18:23] we getting somewhere [18:24] you did the reinstall thunderbird hey Langjan [18:24] no, the problem is in my panel and the same in my system prferences and admin items, the icons on the left of each item [18:25] the panel? [18:25] the little bar at the top of the screen [18:25]