| madnick | oh then we will need to fix a thing | 00:00 |
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| charlie-tca | I have to go eat first, I guess | 00:00 |
| madnick | yeah | 00:00 |
| madnick | Ill look up how to do this in the safest manner while you eat ;) | 00:00 |
| charlie-tca | okay, back again for a little while | 00:04 |
| charlie-tca | I don't suppose I can just replace xubuntu-logo folder? | 00:06 |
| madnick | charlie-tca: well | 00:06 |
| madnick | backup defualt.plymouth | 00:06 |
| madnick | then replace with: | 00:07 |
| madnick | http://pastebin.madnick.se/paste.php?id=4e334b3752245 | 00:07 |
| charlie-tca | okay, default plymouth is a link to a file in /etc/alternatives | 00:08 |
| madnick | okay | 00:09 |
| madnick | i think that does it :) | 00:09 |
| madnick | if you get that setup | 00:09 |
| madnick | I am very sorry if it did not work when you did that, its 3 in the morning, and I do not remember exactly what I did to get it working, I have that on my workstation saved however | 00:13 |
| charlie-tca | I am still working on it | 00:13 |
| madnick | okay | 00:13 |
| charlie-tca | I am a bit slow | 00:13 |
| madnick | I think it should work | 00:13 |
| charlie-tca | okay, got it | 00:14 |
| charlie-tca | Now you want to try, huh? | 00:15 |
| madnick | :D | 00:15 |
| charlie-tca | Any further instructions? (this machine will be rebooted | 00:15 |
| madnick | okay | 00:15 |
| charlie-tca | back in a minute or two, then | 00:15 |
| madnick | i was having instructions :\ | 00:15 |
| madnick | sudo update-initramfs -u | 00:16 |
| madnick | ok, now im a bit scared O_o | 00:19 |
| * madnick fears | 00:21 | |
| charlie-tca | heh | 00:21 |
| charlie-tca | wOw! | 00:21 |
| madnick | did it work? :D | 00:21 |
| charlie-tca | works well on shutdown | 00:21 |
| charlie-tca | fails on startup :( | 00:21 |
| charlie-tca | Might be the video card I have, though | 00:21 |
| madnick | :(( | 00:21 |
| madnick | did it say something? | 00:21 |
| charlie-tca | I am using the gallium driver for nvidia | 00:22 |
| madnick | oh | 00:22 |
| charlie-tca | nope, black screen with a dash cursor | 00:22 |
| madnick | Did you get the text version? | 00:22 |
| madnick | I mean, when you boot normally | 00:22 |
| charlie-tca | I will run it on the other three or four computers I have here tonight | 00:22 |
| charlie-tca | aw, shit | 00:23 |
| madnick | Okay, but knome might have alot of things to say about this also :P Graphically and position wise, so some things may still change | 00:23 |
| charlie-tca | yup, I normally get a text screen, and I do have "quiet splash" on the boot line | 00:24 |
| madnick | oh | 00:24 |
| madnick | okay | 00:24 |
| charlie-tca | but the shutdown screen is real impressive | 00:24 |
| madnick | i need to test this on a computer with cryptsetup | 00:24 |
| madnick | and fsck force too, so i will be working on that tomorrow | 00:25 |
| charlie-tca | I don't run encrypted on any of my machines, but I could do an encrytped install tomorrow | 00:25 |
| madnick | that be cool | 00:25 |
| charlie-tca | Okay, it is too late tonight for me to do that, but I have one ati machine, another nvidia machine with nouveau driver, and an intel machine | 00:26 |
| madnick | yeah same, i be heading to bed in 10 minutes :P | 00:26 |
| charlie-tca | so, we can try it on all of them | 00:26 |
| charlie-tca | okay, Thanks for working on that so much. It is really looking good. | 00:27 |
| madnick | thanks | 00:27 |
| charlie-tca | so, my other nvidia machine doesn't get a plymouth screen either. And that is before trying the new files. | 00:54 |
| charlie-tca | moving on, will have to run installs on the other two to test it, but I would not get shook up about these nvidia card machines not working with the new plymouth. | 00:55 |
| Unit193 | I may be able to do a VM (Yes, hardware is much better) | 01:00 |
| charlie-tca | vm won't work | 01:23 |
| charlie-tca | It always shows a text version instead of the graphic version | 01:23 |
| Unit193 | That's what happens half the time on hardware | 01:23 |
| charlie-tca | true | 01:23 |
| charlie-tca | If you can do it, by all means | 01:23 |
| Unit193 | Was never that bad with usplash :/ Worth it in Natty? | 01:24 |
| charlie-tca | Unit193: bans in any #ubuntu, #ubuntu-offtopic, #xubuntu, #kubuntu are discussed in -ops | 01:26 |
| Unit193 | charlie-tca: Thanks, I noticed because of the !ban factoid (IRC, making yourself look like an idiot everyday! :P ) | 01:26 |
| charlie-tca | Don't know if it will work in natty. If you have a vm that normally shows the plymouth screens instead of text, it should work | 01:26 |
| charlie-tca | A lot of them are habitual abusers | 01:27 |
| charlie-tca | I can't run these installs tonight. | 01:29 |
| charlie-tca | I will try tomorrow | 01:29 |
| charlie-tca | I am done tonight. Good night, and have a great weekend. | 01:30 |
| Unit193 | Alright. Have a good one, see you Monday? | 01:30 |
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| charlie-tca | login never adds the user to the screen now. we have two entries for logging in, Guest or Other. | 15:05 |
| charlie-tca | even after restarting, we only get those two entries. The user must hit Other, enter both user name and password. | 15:05 |
| charlie-tca | I don't get any plymouth splash screens herre in oneiric after installing. | 16:10 |
| charlie-tca | madnick: I don't even get splash screens without the changes | 16:10 |
| madnick | charlie-tca: you mean without loading my theme? | 16:10 |
| charlie-tca | We have something broken, maybe from all the bad syncs | 16:10 |
| madnick | ah | 16:10 |
| charlie-tca | madnick: yes, without your theme, I still don't get a splash screen | 16:11 |
| madnick | well, i tested on my laptop and my workstation | 16:11 |
| charlie-tca | and that is any video card | 16:11 |
| charlie-tca | You would think, with nvidia, ati, and intel video here, I would get at least one to work | 16:11 |
| madnick | okay, im gonna download the images of oneiric and try more | 16:12 |
| madnick | charlie-tca: it should look like this: http://www.madnick.se/~madnick/xubuntu | 16:12 |
| charlie-tca | Okay, at they are working today, as long as you login using Other and enter both username and password | 16:12 |
| madnick | okay | 16:13 |
| madnick | ill give a shot | 16:13 |
| charlie-tca | I see them on shutdown, I just get black screens on starting | 16:13 |
| madnick | i had that exact same problem | 16:14 |
| charlie-tca | nvidia is probably not working with the frame buffers again | 16:14 |
| charlie-tca | that is common for nvidia | 16:14 |
| madnick | im gonna try without any drivers | 16:15 |
| charlie-tca | okeydokey | 16:15 |
| charlie-tca | I also get splash screens at shutdown without your changes, just the one that says "xubuntu" | 16:16 |
| madnick | well, normally you should run update ram disk | 16:16 |
| madnick | 1 sec | 16:16 |
| madnick | Pasting 3 lines, I was gonna tell you yesterday but you left before I had the chance: | 16:17 |
| madnick | 02:15 -!- charlie-tca [~cjk@ubuntu/member/charlie-tca] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5; I seem to be leaving now ...] | 16:17 |
| madnick | 02:15 < madnick> i was having instructions :\ | 16:17 |
| madnick | 02:16 < madnick> sudo update-initramfs -u | 16:17 |
| madnick | But since you got it work without doing that, i did not mention it anymore | 16:17 |
| charlie-tca | Oh | 16:18 |
| charlie-tca | but it should still give me a splash screen before I make the changes? | 16:18 |
| charlie-tca | I don't get one here. I am getting the blank screen on booting | 16:18 |
| madnick | ah | 16:18 |
| madnick | Well, I'm gonna look deep into this and talk more to the plymouth devs | 16:19 |
| madnick | Plymouth is still not "ready for AS-IS" use, they say | 16:19 |
| charlie-tca | I wonder if we are missing that command for some reason | 16:20 |
| charlie-tca | Let me boot this ati machine again and see | 16:20 |
| madnick | :> | 16:20 |
| charlie-tca | Oh, goody. Lightdm doesn't even remember the session now | 16:21 |
| charlie-tca | Okay, rebooting. No changes made yet, still trying to see if I get any splash screen first | 16:22 |
| charlie-tca | well, nope | 16:22 |
| madnick | hm | 16:23 |
| charlie-tca | what a deal | 16:23 |
| charlie-tca | This is probably the roughest alpha releases since at least 6.06 | 16:24 |
| * charlie-tca has come across people that were able to upgrade all the way from 6.06 to Oneiric | 16:26 | |
| charlie-tca | They actually have had to reinstall oneiric now | 16:26 |
| madnick | ok, download complete, is the live session presistant on usb? | 16:28 |
| madnick | using usb creator | 16:28 |
| madnick | nvm that question :P | 16:29 |
| charlie-tca | heh | 16:30 |
| charlie-tca | good question | 16:30 |
| charlie-tca | Does it even work? | 16:30 |
| madnick | The image? Im not sure yet | 16:31 |
| madnick | need to format my usb drive | 16:31 |
| charlie-tca | changes made to the system with the ATI video card, let's see what it does | 16:39 |
| charlie-tca | hm, same as before I made the changes. Get a beautiful splash screen for shutting down, and a blank screen to startup | 16:40 |
| charlie-tca | It's official, I give up | 16:40 |
| madnick | it's odd, hm, im gonna try to get it working on boot, somehow | 16:41 |
| charlie-tca | um, live cd is different. I see the xubuntu splash when it boots | 16:43 |
| charlie-tca | to further make life difficult | 16:44 |
| madnick | :D | 16:44 |
| madnick | could be a driver issue then i suppose | 16:44 |
| charlie-tca | I guess I will eat lunch and then fix the leak in the swimming pool | 16:45 |
| charlie-tca | It doesn't make my head hurt as much | 16:45 |
| madnick | :) | 16:46 |
| charlie-tca | but, hey, at least you know I have all these systems to test on, right? | 16:47 |
| madnick | yep :D | 16:47 |
| madnick | what was the work around to get into the live cd? | 16:47 |
| madnick | set password myself? | 16:47 |
| madnick | okay i got in | 16:48 |
| charlie-tca | You can just go to session, Xubuntu, then click guest | 17:02 |
| madnick | problem is i need the password to change stuff | 17:04 |
| madnick | like connect to wifi :P | 17:04 |
| madnick | okay, got the ubuntu user | 17:05 |
| madnick | im good | 17:05 |
| madnick | I narrowed the problem down | 17:57 |
| madnick | Plymouth cannot read the files at boot | 17:57 |
| madnick | why? I have no idea :) | 17:57 |
| madnick | charlie-tca: success! :) http://www.madnick.se/~madnick/xubuntu.3gp :P | 19:20 |
| madnick | charlie-tca: success! :) http://www.madnick.se/~madnick/xubuntu/yay.3gp ... err, that is the correct URL | 19:21 |
| charlie-tca | um, that came up blank | 19:59 |
| charlie-tca | madnick: what do I need to do to make it work? | 20:02 |
| madnick | charlie-tca: restore default, do a: update-alternatives --install /lib/plymouth/themes/default.plymouth default.plymouth /lib/plymouth/themes/madnick/madnick.plymouth 100 | 20:16 |
| madnick | then run: update-alternatives --config default.plymouth, all this as root btw, then finally run update-initramfs -u -v | 20:16 |
| madnick | however, so far I had no luck forcing fsck | 20:19 |
| charlie-tca | you can force it to run in two boots using | 20:36 |
| charlie-tca | sudo tune2fs -c 2 /dev/sda1 | 20:36 |
| charlie-tca | if you change the 2 to 0 or 1, it fails for reasons I don't understand | 20:36 |
| madnick | charlie-tca: thanks, ill try that | 20:37 |
| madnick | What I found was "shutdown -rF -now" | 20:37 |
| charlie-tca | well, that's frustrating | 20:45 |
| charlie-tca | nothing | 20:45 |
| charlie-tca | still no splash screen with the ati card | 20:46 |
| madnick | :( | 20:46 |
| madnick | Ive got an ATI machine sat up soon, will try myself, but i think there is some options one can set to force a splasj | 20:47 |
| madnick | fsck working! :) now to try ATI :) | 21:09 |
| madnick | charlie-tca: confirmed working with HD4200 series driver | 21:26 |
| madnick | 8.851 | 21:27 |
| madnick | 61*, sorry, i will try nvidia next, then a friends ATI | 21:27 |
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