[00:00] oh then we will need to fix a thing [00:00] I have to go eat first, I guess [00:00] yeah [00:00] Ill look up how to do this in the safest manner while you eat ;) [00:04] okay, back again for a little while [00:06] I don't suppose I can just replace xubuntu-logo folder? [00:06] charlie-tca: well [00:06] backup defualt.plymouth [00:07] then replace with: [00:07] http://pastebin.madnick.se/paste.php?id=4e334b3752245 [00:08] okay, default plymouth is a link to a file in /etc/alternatives [00:09] okay [00:09] i think that does it :) [00:09] if you get that setup [00:13] I am very sorry if it did not work when you did that, its 3 in the morning, and I do not remember exactly what I did to get it working, I have that on my workstation saved however [00:13] I am still working on it [00:13] okay [00:13] I am a bit slow [00:13] I think it should work [00:14] okay, got it [00:15] Now you want to try, huh? [00:15] :D [00:15] Any further instructions? (this machine will be rebooted [00:15] okay [00:15] back in a minute or two, then [00:15] i was having instructions :\ [00:16] sudo update-initramfs -u [00:19] ok, now im a bit scared O_o [00:21] * madnick fears [00:21] heh [00:21] wOw! [00:21] did it work? :D [00:21] works well on shutdown [00:21] fails on startup :( [00:21] Might be the video card I have, though [00:21] :(( [00:21] did it say something? [00:22] I am using the gallium driver for nvidia [00:22] oh [00:22] nope, black screen with a dash cursor [00:22] Did you get the text version? [00:22] I mean, when you boot normally [00:22] I will run it on the other three or four computers I have here tonight [00:23] aw, shit [00:23] Okay, but knome might have alot of things to say about this also :P Graphically and position wise, so some things may still change [00:24] yup, I normally get a text screen, and I do have "quiet splash" on the boot line [00:24] oh [00:24] okay [00:24] but the shutdown screen is real impressive [00:24] i need to test this on a computer with cryptsetup [00:25] and fsck force too, so i will be working on that tomorrow [00:25] I don't run encrypted on any of my machines, but I could do an encrytped install tomorrow [00:25] that be cool [00:26] Okay, it is too late tonight for me to do that, but I have one ati machine, another nvidia machine with nouveau driver, and an intel machine [00:26] yeah same, i be heading to bed in 10 minutes :P [00:26] so, we can try it on all of them [00:27] okay, Thanks for working on that so much. It is really looking good. [00:27] thanks [00:54] so, my other nvidia machine doesn't get a plymouth screen either. And that is before trying the new files. [00:55] moving on, will have to run installs on the other two to test it, but I would not get shook up about these nvidia card machines not working with the new plymouth. [01:00] I may be able to do a VM (Yes, hardware is much better) [01:23] vm won't work [01:23] It always shows a text version instead of the graphic version [01:23] That's what happens half the time on hardware [01:23] true [01:23] If you can do it, by all means [01:24] Was never that bad with usplash :/ Worth it in Natty? [01:26] Unit193: bans in any #ubuntu, #ubuntu-offtopic, #xubuntu, #kubuntu are discussed in -ops [01:26] charlie-tca: Thanks, I noticed because of the !ban factoid (IRC, making yourself look like an idiot everyday! :P ) [01:26] Don't know if it will work in natty. If you have a vm that normally shows the plymouth screens instead of text, it should work [01:27] A lot of them are habitual abusers [01:29] I can't run these installs tonight. [01:29] I will try tomorrow [01:30] I am done tonight. Good night, and have a great weekend. [01:30] Alright. Have a good one, see you Monday? === ChanServ changed the topic of #xubuntu-devel to: Xubuntu Development | Want to get involved? See: http://xubuntu.org/contribute | #xubuntu for support, #xubuntu-offtopic for general discussion | Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule | Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu | Xubuntu Community meeting 2011-07-31 | Oneiric images at http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/ [15:05] login never adds the user to the screen now. we have two entries for logging in, Guest or Other. [15:05] even after restarting, we only get those two entries. The user must hit Other, enter both user name and password. [16:10] I don't get any plymouth splash screens herre in oneiric after installing. [16:10] madnick: I don't even get splash screens without the changes [16:10] charlie-tca: you mean without loading my theme? [16:10] We have something broken, maybe from all the bad syncs [16:10] ah [16:11] madnick: yes, without your theme, I still don't get a splash screen [16:11] well, i tested on my laptop and my workstation [16:11] and that is any video card [16:11] You would think, with nvidia, ati, and intel video here, I would get at least one to work [16:12] okay, im gonna download the images of oneiric and try more [16:12] charlie-tca: it should look like this: http://www.madnick.se/~madnick/xubuntu [16:12] Okay, at they are working today, as long as you login using Other and enter both username and password [16:13] okay [16:13] ill give a shot [16:13] I see them on shutdown, I just get black screens on starting [16:14] i had that exact same problem [16:14] nvidia is probably not working with the frame buffers again [16:14] that is common for nvidia [16:15] im gonna try without any drivers [16:15] okeydokey [16:16] I also get splash screens at shutdown without your changes, just the one that says "xubuntu" [16:16] well, normally you should run update ram disk [16:16] 1 sec [16:17] Pasting 3 lines, I was gonna tell you yesterday but you left before I had the chance: [16:17] 02:15 -!- charlie-tca [~cjk@ubuntu/member/charlie-tca] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5; I seem to be leaving now ...] [16:17] 02:15 < madnick> i was having instructions :\ [16:17] 02:16 < madnick> sudo update-initramfs -u [16:17] But since you got it work without doing that, i did not mention it anymore [16:18] Oh [16:18] but it should still give me a splash screen before I make the changes? [16:18] I don't get one here. I am getting the blank screen on booting [16:18] ah [16:19] Well, I'm gonna look deep into this and talk more to the plymouth devs [16:19] Plymouth is still not "ready for AS-IS" use, they say [16:20] I wonder if we are missing that command for some reason [16:20] Let me boot this ati machine again and see [16:20] :> [16:21] Oh, goody. Lightdm doesn't even remember the session now [16:22] Okay, rebooting. No changes made yet, still trying to see if I get any splash screen first [16:22] well, nope [16:23] hm [16:23] what a deal [16:24] This is probably the roughest alpha releases since at least 6.06 [16:26] * charlie-tca has come across people that were able to upgrade all the way from 6.06 to Oneiric [16:26] They actually have had to reinstall oneiric now [16:28] ok, download complete, is the live session presistant on usb? [16:28] using usb creator [16:29] nvm that question :P [16:30] heh [16:30] good question [16:30] Does it even work? [16:31] The image? Im not sure yet [16:31] need to format my usb drive [16:39] changes made to the system with the ATI video card, let's see what it does [16:40] hm, same as before I made the changes. Get a beautiful splash screen for shutting down, and a blank screen to startup [16:40] It's official, I give up [16:41] it's odd, hm, im gonna try to get it working on boot, somehow [16:43] um, live cd is different. I see the xubuntu splash when it boots [16:44] to further make life difficult [16:44] :D [16:44] could be a driver issue then i suppose [16:45] I guess I will eat lunch and then fix the leak in the swimming pool [16:45] It doesn't make my head hurt as much [16:46] :) [16:47] but, hey, at least you know I have all these systems to test on, right? [16:47] yep :D [16:47] what was the work around to get into the live cd? [16:47] set password myself? [16:48] okay i got in [17:02] You can just go to session, Xubuntu, then click guest [17:04] problem is i need the password to change stuff [17:04] like connect to wifi :P [17:05] okay, got the ubuntu user [17:05] im good [17:57] I narrowed the problem down [17:57] Plymouth cannot read the files at boot [17:57] why? I have no idea :) [19:20] charlie-tca: success! :) http://www.madnick.se/~madnick/xubuntu.3gp :P [19:21] charlie-tca: success! :) http://www.madnick.se/~madnick/xubuntu/yay.3gp ... err, that is the correct URL [19:59] um, that came up blank [20:02] madnick: what do I need to do to make it work? [20:16] charlie-tca: restore default, do a: update-alternatives --install /lib/plymouth/themes/default.plymouth default.plymouth /lib/plymouth/themes/madnick/madnick.plymouth 100 [20:16] then run: update-alternatives --config default.plymouth, all this as root btw, then finally run update-initramfs -u -v [20:19] however, so far I had no luck forcing fsck [20:36] you can force it to run in two boots using [20:36] sudo tune2fs -c 2 /dev/sda1 [20:36] if you change the 2 to 0 or 1, it fails for reasons I don't understand [20:37] charlie-tca: thanks, ill try that [20:37] What I found was "shutdown -rF -now" [20:45] well, that's frustrating [20:45] nothing [20:46] still no splash screen with the ati card [20:46] :( [20:47] Ive got an ATI machine sat up soon, will try myself, but i think there is some options one can set to force a splasj [21:09] fsck working! :) now to try ATI :) [21:26] charlie-tca: confirmed working with HD4200 series driver [21:27] 8.851 [21:27] 61*, sorry, i will try nvidia next, then a friends ATI