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claydoh_teleptha/nick clay-telepathy00:02
claydohlol00:02
apacheloggerwho wants to see something awesome?00:32
apacheloggerand sekrit00:33
claydohapachelogger: mememememe00:53
ScottKapachelogger: Dunno about the Kubuntu packageset and Main/Universe.05:24
ScottKdebfx: I can sponsor it, but probably not until Monday.05:24
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mfraz74I have upgraded Kubuntu 11.04 to KDE 4.7 but I can't seem to find a package that has the Oxygen themes in them.10:00
yofeloxygen is a theme, or do you mean the color schemes?10:01
mfraz74I mean the files at /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/oxygen that I was using for the login screen10:02
mfraz74used to be in kdebase-workspace-wallpapers10:02
yofelmfraz74: I think you're looking for kde-workspace-data-extras10:04
mfraz74yofel: thanks10:06
mfraz74Is anyone else getting an error box pop up when they use get hot new stuff10:19
mfraz74?10:19
yofelmfraz74: where's that again?10:22
mfraz74eg if I go into system settings and application appearance and then icons > get new themes, I get an error box saying that i am about to log in to the site "api.opendesktop.org" with the username "mfraser", but the website does not require authentication.10:24
yofelhm, I vaguely remember hearing about that auth error, but was never able to reproduce it10:26
yofelcurrently I'm on oneiric, I'll try it later on natty10:26
mfraz74yofel: you need to have setup social desktop in account details first. I have tried it with just a username, but it doesn't like that10:27
yofelah true, I don't have that10:27
mfraz74are you registered at opendesktop.org?10:30
yofelnope10:32
mfraz74yofel: could you do it to confirm the bug?10:37
yofela tad busy currently, will do it later10:37
mfraz74ok10:38
yofelconfirmed :/12:09
ScottKsmokegen binaries accepted.14:25
yofelbtw. I hacked an overview page together that shows if the branches have UNRELEASED stuff http://yofel.dyndns.org/kubuntu/bzrstat/ but I'm not as good as felix when it comes to web development ^^14:30
yofelrefreshes ~hourly14:30
ScottKPlease keep uploading14:44
Quintasanyofel: Feel like readin' my telepathy kde ppa blog entry? -> http://paste.kde.org/104113/14:45
* Quintasan uploads gwenview 0ubuntu314:45
yofelI'll do it in ~3mins14:45
CIA-52[gwenview] Michal Zajac * 20 * debian/changelog Releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu314:48
CIA-52[kalzium] Michal Zajac * 11 * debian/changelog Releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu214:51
QuintasanScottK: Uploading stuff right now!14:52
yofelQuintasan: fine IMO, but if a plasma applet is the only way to use it then *buntu isn't quite right14:52
CIA-52[kde-baseapps] Michal Zajac * 186 * debian/changelog Releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu214:53
yofelwell ok, actually is14:53
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkdeedu] Philip Muškovac * 10 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu214:55
girlygirl___Why is there alpha release for Kubuntu Oneric, for Ubuntu there is does this mean bug testing for Kubuntu cannot begin yet?14:56
girlygirl___edit: no alpha release for14:57
Quintasangirlygirl___: I believe we skipped one because we were doing 4.7 packaging but I'm not sure14:57
yofeliirc we had a1, a2 was skipped since we weren't done with 4.714:58
girlygirl___Quintasan: So there will be future pre release builds14:58
yofelalpha3 is scheduled for thursday14:58
girlygirl___thanks14:58
CIA-52[kdeaccessibility] Michal Zajac * 113 * debian/changelog Releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu114:58
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/parley] Philip Muškovac * 15 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu114:59
* Quintasan is heading to bed for a nap14:59
ScottKQuintasan: Great.15:00
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/klettres] Philip Muškovac * 8 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu115:02
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kolourpaint] Philip Muškovac * 9 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu115:07
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kross-interpreters] Philip Muškovac * 3 * debian/ (changelog control) releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu115:09
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kruler] Philip Muškovac * 9 * debian/ (changelog control) releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu115:14
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegames] Philip Muškovac * 131 * debian/ (changelog control) releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu215:22
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kmplot] Philip Muškovac * 7 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu115:34
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girlygirl___Isn't the heading text on the channel supposed to read "Congratulations Yofel" and not Yoful16:44
girlygirl___[Kubuntu: Friendly Computing | 4.7.0 Packaging: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging | TODO: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/group/topic-oneiric-kubuntu.html | Congratulations yoful]16:44
micahgdebfx: you forgot to revert the libjpeg62-dev change in gwenview17:01
Quintasanhmmm17:16
Quintasanyofel: ping17:16
Quintasanyofel: more like, how does one change topic?17:17
girlygirl___Isn't the heading text on the channel supposed to read "Congratulations Yofel" and not Yoful17:19
girlygirl___[Kubuntu: Friendly Computing | 4.7.0 Packaging: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging | TODO: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/group/topic-oneiric-kubuntu.html | Congratulations yoful]17:19
nigelbQuintasan: Easiest wway is "poke jussi"17:53
bambeeevening17:57
shadeslayernigelb: even easier is this17:58
=== shadeslayer changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu: Friendly Computing | 4.7.0 Packaging: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging | TODO: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/group/topic-oneiric-kubuntu.html | Congratulations yofel
shadeslayer;)17:58
shadeslayergirlygirl___: fixed :)17:59
girlygirl___ok18:00
seawolfhi,on kde 4.7,kilpper have generate QR code?18:01
shadeslayerseawolf: it should18:02
shadeslayerhuh, thats weird18:02
bambeeyofel: congrats ! :D18:03
shadeslayerseawolf: possibly the required build dep was not added due to certain reasons18:03
seawolfa ok,thank,coming son :D18:05
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nigelbshadeslayer: oh gah.18:11
nigelbdidn't know topic was open18:11
girlygirl___Kde follows qt releases versions more or less, so when qt 5 is out in 2012 will kde also go to v 5, and will it be a re code like 4.0 was ?18:15
Quintasanshadeslayer: how does one get powers to change topics?18:37
Quintasangirlygirl___: no, there wont be v5 bump for KDE AFAIC18:38
shadeslayerQuintasan: the #kubuntu-devel topic is open :)18:38
QuintasanI see :S18:38
jussiQuintasan: what do you want changed? 18:55
jussiQuintasan: and what client are you using? 18:56
Quintasanjussi: Nothing now, it was yufel no yofel18:56
Quintasanjussi: Quassel18:56
=== Quintasan changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu: Friendly Computing | 4.7.0 Packaging: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging | TODO: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/group/topic-oneiric-kubuntu.html | Congratulations yofel
Quintasan:/18:56
jussihehe18:56
yofelre19:04
yofelbambee: thanks :)19:04
jussisheytan: are you here now? 19:05
yofelQuintasan: iirc there will be a v5 bump for KDE, but no rewrite, just ABI cleanup19:05
jussisheytan: Ill leave a message in any case. We need some merchandise designs for the stuff in the ubuntu shop, so if youve got time, could you knock up a couple (must comply with ubuntu brand guidelines). Id say a mug, tshirt/polo, jacket and maybe something else for starters? 19:08
* jussi needs to go now, laters all19:08
shadeslayervalorie: could you ping me when you're free for a bit?19:08
claydohyeah, don't forget to include a Kubuntu thong :)19:27
claydohor, better yet a t-shirt in my size19:28
eMyllerhi, fellows :)19:32
eMyllerme @ identica: OMG !KDE, blur is working again on intel graphics card on SC 4.7!  can anyone tell me what happened?19:45
eMyllercan anyone confirm this?19:45
eMyllerand it's not even slow19:46
claydoheMyller: I have had blur working well on my intel for a bit now, at least natty. Maybe I have one of the less crappy gpu's :)19:50
eMyllerclaydoh: kde sc 4.7?19:50
claydohyup19:50
eMyllerit was completely broken on 4.619:50
eMyllerand now is smoother than i'd ever expect.19:51
claydohnot for mine, though pre-natty it wasn't working for me iirc19:51
claydoh4.4/4.5 somewhere19:51
eMylleras far as i've read, blur wasn't going to be fixed for a long time19:52
claydohbut yeah, it is sooooooooo nice to have19:52
eMyllerand i didn't even heard about it19:52
eMyller* since then19:52
eMylleram looking forward to try oxygen-transparent19:54
valorieshadeslayer: pong19:54
eMyllerdo you have an updated deb or could point me to it?19:54
eMyllerfound nothing on PPAs. :|19:55
claydoheMyller: plasma theme?19:55
eMyllerclaydoh: nope; qt/kwin19:55
eMyllerclaydoh: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=12775219:56
claydoheMyller: that stinks, usually a theme creator makes it downloadable via the Get Hot New Stuff thing so you can install it from system settings19:58
eMyllerthose are binaries, not just markup19:59
claydohyeah, so they are lazy :)19:59
claydohuse the simple build script to do it for you19:59
eMyllerclaydoh: to not distribute deb packages?19:59
claydohdon't need deb packages for this, that a lot of work iirc for something like this20:00
eMyllerclaydoh: i could, but i'm just avoiding having to download dependences on this crappy connection of mine.20:00
eMyllerclaydoh: i guess you're not aware of what's it about :P20:00
claydohI can read :) )usually), but I think binaries could easily be built so that anyone regardless of distro20:04
claydohwhich I guess may happen once they begin regular versioning20:04
eMyllerexactly20:05
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/ksaneplugin] Philip Muškovac * 15 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu120:05
eMyllerbut i didn't see that getting into any official repo yet :\20:05
claydohwell create a ppa for it :)20:06
eMyllerif i had sufficient knowledge about it today...20:07
eMyllereventually, maybe :)20:07
claydohgood learning experience (I am still learning - need to update my kmymoney ppa soon)20:08
eMylleryeah. as soon as i have time, i'll play with desktop dev for a while20:08
eMyller[am a python web developer and sysadmin]20:09
sheytanjussi: no time, sorry :(20:26
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kig] Philip Muškovac * 8 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu120:39
eMyllerclaydoh: i just built oxygen-transparent20:49
eMyllerTIS BEAUTIFUL, OMG20:49
claydohhehe20:53
claydohworth the effort, then :D20:53
ejateMyller : u have at ya PPA  ?20:56
eMyllerejat: nope :|20:57
eMyllerdunno how to package and upload it20:57
ejatowh .. u just build it at ya machine :)21:01
eMyllerejat: yep21:02
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* Quintasan wonders if commit message made it here21:14
* Quintasan tries kwin-gles21:15
yofel_didn't21:20
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QuintasanWell whatever21:20
yofelor I missed it too ^^21:20
* Quintasan wonders if kwin-gles will work on his box21:20
eMylleram trying to upload oxygen-transparent to my newly created PPA21:21
Quintasanffs21:21
eMyllercould anyone gimme a quick guide?21:21
Quintasandput *.changes file21:21
Quintasanooop21:21
Quintasandput ppa:username/ppa *.changes21:21
eMyllerwhat's this file?21:22
QuintasanIt should get generated when you do debuild -S21:22
yofelit's created by debuild -S21:22
* eMyller is reading about them on apt-cache21:22
QuintasaneMyller: Or file a bug and assign me to it21:23
Quintasanif you really feels like packaging this is really needed21:23
* Quintasan thought this crap is going to be merged upstream21:23
yofelIMO the author should rather fix his kde-look setup so it appears in the download theme dialog21:23
Quintasanyofel: This whole thing is an ugly library hack21:24
yofelah ok, then not ofc :/21:24
QuintasanSince when we BUILD themes?21:24
* yofel likes transparency but will stick to what the oxygen team provides21:25
eMyllerQuintasan: ugly?21:27
QuintasaneMyller: How did you build it?21:27
QuintasaneMyller: As in, messing with libs21:27
eMyllerQuintasan: just ran the pl script from the repo21:27
QuintasaneMyller: Oh I see, that's not how you generate packages for PPA21:28
eMylleryeah... i guess that's how i just build and install for myself.21:28
* yofel hopes that doesn't override any files21:28
eMyllerhow then? :D21:28
yofelotherwise that'll be complicated21:28
eMylleryofel: no it's not anymore.21:28
eMylleri think.21:28
QuintasanI do not really think a theme should look like that21:29
eMyllerback in months ago, it was replacing default Oxygen theme21:29
QuintasaneMyller: Did the author even bother talking to upstream?21:29
yofelQuintasan: on kde-look.org he says it's rejected upstream21:29
yofeleMyller: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete21:29
QuintasanThen it must have been doing some nasty things21:30
yofelhttp://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=12775221:30
eMyllercheck his words about it. http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=12775221:30
yofeleMyller: but if the install process requires running a perl script that (probably) won't be too easy to package..21:31
eMylleryofel: the pearl script basically clones, configures and builds the thing21:31
eMylleri took a glance on it, nothing complex seems to be done.21:32
* yofel fetches the source21:32
yofelah, seems to use cmake, much easier :)21:33
valoriethat's pretty21:39
valorieI'd like to use that21:39
* eMyller is halfway done with the ppa thing21:41
Quintasanyofel: Do not bother21:43
QuintasanI just packaged it :/21:43
yofel^^21:44
Quintasanyofel: Will adding kubuntu-ppa/backports dependency to my ppa allow me to build packages against 4.7.0?21:44
yofelshould21:45
Quintasanoh wait, lp doesnt support xz yet21:45
yofelQuintasan: it does21:48
yofelwe just use it in neon :P21:48
Quintasan...21:48
Quintasanokay21:48
Quintasan:D21:48
Quintasanhttp://paste.kde.org/10427521:48
Quintasanwtf21:48
Quintasandput--21:48
yofelyay, lp gpg server broken again21:49
yofelwell, should work anyway21:49
Quintasanyofel: Feeling like testin kwin-gles?21:50
yofelI'm on my eeePC, so sure, once I finished installing updates21:50
QuintasaneMyller: https://launchpad.net/~quintasan/+archive/ppa21:50
Quintasanplasma-theme-oxygen-transparent should be here soon21:50
Quintasanyofel: branch kde-workspace and build for natty :P21:51
Quintasandoublebuilding ftw!21:51
yofelok, I'll call back tomorrow evening if it should finish by then :P21:52
Quintasanlol21:52
Quintasan-j16 FTW21:52
yofelthis is an atom n270, faster than my arm VMs, but still: forget it21:52
eMyllerQuintasan: may i delete the ppa i created for it?21:53
yofeleMyller: er, leave it21:53
yofelit'll leave a PPA zombie, since you can't completely remove them...21:53
QuintasaneMyller: You can, but you might want it at some point in future21:53
Quintasanmake -j121:54
QuintasanWTF21:54
QuintasanPBUILDER DIE IN FIRE21:54
eMylleranyways, i'd appreciate it if you threw your shell logs at me so i could see what was done in order to upload the thing.21:54
ejatQuintasan : c00l :) 21:54
* yofel goes back to uploading stuff21:55
QuintasaneMyller: dget -xu https://launchpad.net/~quintasan/+archive/ppa/+files/plasma-theme-oxygen-transparent_0.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1.dsc21:55
QuintasaneMyller: See plasma-theme-oxygen-transparent-0.1/debian directory21:55
Quintasanthe files inside21:55
Quintasanthis is how packaging works21:55
eMyller[offtopic] http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lopdzbnTio1qzmowao1_500.jpg21:55
QuintasanWHY WON'T YOU USE -J16 PBUILDER?21:56
eMyllerQuintasan: nice, thanks :)21:57
QuintasaneMyller: Then, if you went to plasma-theme-oxygen-transparent-0.1 and invoked debuild -S it would do some magic to generate .dsc .changes files and sign them with you gpg key21:58
eMyllerso that i could upload it21:59
eMyllerusing dput21:59
QuintasanTo a PPA, yes21:59
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kiten] Philip Muškovac * 14 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu121:59
QuintasanI'm feeling like playin some TF222:00
eMyllerQuintasan: thanks :)22:00
QuintasaneMyller: http://www.debian.org/doc/devel-manuals#maint-guide22:00
QuintasanThis is a good read to get introduced to packaging22:01
Quintasanand I mean, everything there22:01
eMyllercool22:02
Quintasanejat, eMyller: package is building, should be ready in 10 min or so22:02
eMylleradded to the readlist (got some tabs blinking already :P)22:02
eMyllerty :)22:02
ejatQuintasan .. thanks .. i can see it on launchpad .. 22:03
QuintasanQuasseldroid ftw22:07
eMyllerusing quasselcore too?22:08
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QuintasanMore like using yofels core22:08
yofeland package failed to build already ^^22:08
Quintasanyofel: theme?22:09
yofelyep22:09
Quintasan...22:09
Quintasanderp22:09
QuintasanWhat's wrong?22:09
yofeldh_install: plasma-theme-oxygen-transparent missing files (usr/lib/*), aborting22:09
Quintasanhmm22:09
yofelused --with kde?22:09
Quintasanyes22:09
QuintasanIt installs stuff automatically?22:10
yofelit odes22:10
yofeldebian/plasma-theme-oxygen-transparent/usr/lib/liboxygentransparentstyleconfig.so.422:10
Quintasan...22:10
QuintasanCare to fix it and upload somewhere else?22:10
yofellemme dget it22:11
* Quintasan just started TF2 to own JT22:12
Quintasanhmm22:12
QuintasanJT is so dead22:12
Quintasanin TF22:12
yofellol22:12
eMyllerQuintasan: why did you call it "plasma-theme"?22:13
Quintasansince it's a plasma theme?22:13
eMylleris it? Oo22:14
yofeluh...22:14
yofelQuintasan: window decos?22:14
eMyllerkwin/qt22:14
ejatnow yofel wanna try to fix it ? 22:24
yofelwhat was up agani?22:26
yofel*again22:26
ejati dc just now .. i mean .. the plasma theme oxygen transparent :)22:28
* ejat lost the conversation .. 22:28
yofelah, yeah, working on it22:29
yofelbuilding on an Atom takes a while ^^22:29
ejatok thanks :) .. 22:29
ejatu try at ya machine 1st b4 upload ?22:29
ejat:)22:30
yofelI first need to find what's wrong, either it's tricky or I'm too tired to miss the obvious22:30
yofelY U BUILD -j1 dpkg-buildpackag? *-.-22:31
ejatowh ic :) .. tracing … 22:32
ejatit seem .. this year i havent update my packaging / doing any packaging yet :(22:33
yofelfeel free to poke for work once 4.7.1 is tagged ;)22:33
yofelQuintasan: a) it's not just usr/lib/ stuff b) just junk  the install file22:34
ejatouch … 22:34
ejatyofel : havent try much on packaging for kde .. just some apps that less dependencies .. maybe i need mentor if i want to join u ninja guys22:36
yofelejat: now with the splits there is a lot of simple stuff, not too hard even for packaging beginners22:37
yofelyour work gets reviewed anyway (unlike your personal packaging) ;)22:38
ejatic .. 22:38
ejatsplits ? 22:42
yofelejat: kdeedu, kdegraphics and kdebindings source packages got split up into smaller pieces22:45
yofelhas to do with the svn -> git move at kde22:45
ejatic .. 22:45
ejathttp://techbase.kde.org/Projects/MovetoGit22:47
ejatok .. get the full pict .. thanks again .. 22:49
yofelScottK: mind taking a look at smokeqt next? It's in source new and once that's in we can upload qtruby and perlqt22:54
yofelbah, kiten not in packageset :(23:08
yofelah, it's in universe...23:10
yofelQuintasan: can you upload that?23:13
yofeleMyller: https://launchpad.net/~yofel/+archive/ppa/+packages together with other stuff, so make sure you only take oxygen-transparent23:30

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