[00:02] <claydoh_teleptha> /nick clay-telepathy
[00:02] <claydoh> lol
[00:32] <apachelogger> who wants to see something awesome?
[00:33] <apachelogger> and sekrit
[00:53] <claydoh> apachelogger: mememememe
[05:24] <ScottK> apachelogger: Dunno about the Kubuntu packageset and Main/Universe.
[05:24] <ScottK> debfx: I can sponsor it, but probably not until Monday.
[10:00] <mfraz74> I have upgraded Kubuntu 11.04 to KDE 4.7 but I can't seem to find a package that has the Oxygen themes in them.
[10:01] <yofel> oxygen is a theme, or do you mean the color schemes?
[10:02] <mfraz74> I mean the files at /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/oxygen that I was using for the login screen
[10:02] <mfraz74> used to be in kdebase-workspace-wallpapers
[10:04] <yofel> mfraz74: I think you're looking for kde-workspace-data-extras
[10:06] <mfraz74> yofel: thanks
[10:19] <mfraz74> Is anyone else getting an error box pop up when they use get hot new stuff
[10:19] <mfraz74> ?
[10:22] <yofel> mfraz74: where's that again?
[10:24] <mfraz74> eg if I go into system settings and application appearance and then icons > get new themes, I get an error box saying that i am about to log in to the site "api.opendesktop.org" with the username "mfraser", but the website does not require authentication.
[10:26] <yofel> hm, I vaguely remember hearing about that auth error, but was never able to reproduce it
[10:26] <yofel> currently I'm on oneiric, I'll try it later on natty
[10:27] <mfraz74> yofel: you need to have setup social desktop in account details first. I have tried it with just a username, but it doesn't like that
[10:27] <yofel> ah true, I don't have that
[10:30] <mfraz74> are you registered at opendesktop.org?
[10:32] <yofel> nope
[10:37] <mfraz74> yofel: could you do it to confirm the bug?
[10:37] <yofel> a tad busy currently, will do it later
[10:38] <mfraz74> ok
[12:09] <yofel> confirmed :/
[14:25] <ScottK> smokegen binaries accepted.
[14:30] <yofel> btw. I hacked an overview page together that shows if the branches have UNRELEASED stuff http://yofel.dyndns.org/kubuntu/bzrstat/ but I'm not as good as felix when it comes to web development ^^
[14:30] <yofel> refreshes ~hourly
[14:44] <ScottK> Please keep uploading
[14:45] <Quintasan> yofel: Feel like readin' my telepathy kde ppa blog entry? -> http://paste.kde.org/104113/
[14:45]  * Quintasan uploads gwenview 0ubuntu3
[14:45] <yofel> I'll do it in ~3mins
[14:48] <CIA-52> [gwenview] Michal Zajac * 20 * debian/changelog Releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu3
[14:51] <CIA-52> [kalzium] Michal Zajac * 11 * debian/changelog Releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu2
[14:52] <Quintasan> ScottK: Uploading stuff right now!
[14:52] <yofel> Quintasan: fine IMO, but if a plasma applet is the only way to use it then *buntu isn't quite right
[14:53] <CIA-52> [kde-baseapps] Michal Zajac * 186 * debian/changelog Releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu2
[14:53] <yofel> well ok, actually is
[14:55] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkdeedu] Philip Muškovac * 10 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu2
[14:56] <girlygirl___> Why is there alpha release for Kubuntu Oneric, for Ubuntu there is does this mean bug testing for Kubuntu cannot begin yet?
[14:57] <girlygirl___> edit: no alpha release for
[14:57] <Quintasan> girlygirl___: I believe we skipped one because we were doing 4.7 packaging but I'm not sure
[14:58] <yofel> iirc we had a1, a2 was skipped since we weren't done with 4.7
[14:58] <girlygirl___> Quintasan: So there will be future pre release builds
[14:58] <yofel> alpha3 is scheduled for thursday
[14:58] <girlygirl___> thanks
[14:58] <CIA-52> [kdeaccessibility] Michal Zajac * 113 * debian/changelog Releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu1
[14:59] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/parley] Philip Muškovac * 15 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu1
[14:59]  * Quintasan is heading to bed for a nap
[15:00] <ScottK> Quintasan: Great.
[15:02] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/klettres] Philip Muškovac * 8 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu1
[15:07] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kolourpaint] Philip Muškovac * 9 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu1
[15:09] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kross-interpreters] Philip Muškovac * 3 * debian/ (changelog control) releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu1
[15:14] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kruler] Philip Muškovac * 9 * debian/ (changelog control) releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu1
[15:22] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegames] Philip Muškovac * 131 * debian/ (changelog control) releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu2
[15:34] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kmplot] Philip Muškovac * 7 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu1
[16:44] <girlygirl___> Isn't the heading text on the channel supposed to read "Congratulations Yofel" and not Yoful
[16:44] <girlygirl___> [Kubuntu: Friendly Computing | 4.7.0 Packaging: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging | TODO: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/group/topic-oneiric-kubuntu.html | Congratulations yoful]
[17:01] <micahg> debfx: you forgot to revert the libjpeg62-dev change in gwenview
[17:16] <Quintasan> hmmm
[17:16] <Quintasan> yofel: ping
[17:17] <Quintasan> yofel: more like, how does one change topic?
[17:19] <girlygirl___> Isn't the heading text on the channel supposed to read "Congratulations Yofel" and not Yoful
[17:19] <girlygirl___> [Kubuntu: Friendly Computing | 4.7.0 Packaging: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging | TODO: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/group/topic-oneiric-kubuntu.html | Congratulations yoful]
[17:53] <nigelb> Quintasan: Easiest wway is "poke jussi"
[17:57] <bambee> evening
[17:58] <shadeslayer> nigelb: even easier is this
[17:58] <shadeslayer> ;)
[17:59] <shadeslayer> girlygirl___: fixed :)
[18:00] <girlygirl___> ok
[18:01] <seawolf> hi,on kde 4.7,kilpper have generate QR code?
[18:02] <shadeslayer> seawolf: it should
[18:02] <shadeslayer> huh, thats weird
[18:03] <bambee> yofel: congrats ! :D
[18:03] <shadeslayer> seawolf: possibly the required build dep was not added due to certain reasons
[18:05] <seawolf> a ok,thank,coming son :D
[18:11] <nigelb> shadeslayer: oh gah.
[18:11] <nigelb> didn't know topic was open
[18:15] <girlygirl___> Kde follows qt releases versions more or less, so when qt 5 is out in 2012 will kde also go to v 5, and will it be a re code like 4.0 was ?
[18:37] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: how does one get powers to change topics?
[18:38] <Quintasan> girlygirl___: no, there wont be v5 bump for KDE AFAIC
[18:38] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: the #kubuntu-devel topic is open :)
[18:38] <Quintasan> I see :S
[18:55] <jussi> Quintasan: what do you want changed? 
[18:56] <jussi> Quintasan: and what client are you using? 
[18:56] <Quintasan> jussi: Nothing now, it was yufel no yofel
[18:56] <Quintasan> jussi: Quassel
[18:56] <Quintasan> :/
[18:56] <jussi> hehe
[19:04] <yofel> re
[19:04] <yofel> bambee: thanks :)
[19:05] <jussi> sheytan: are you here now? 
[19:05] <yofel> Quintasan: iirc there will be a v5 bump for KDE, but no rewrite, just ABI cleanup
[19:08] <jussi> sheytan: Ill leave a message in any case. We need some merchandise designs for the stuff in the ubuntu shop, so if youve got time, could you knock up a couple (must comply with ubuntu brand guidelines). Id say a mug, tshirt/polo, jacket and maybe something else for starters? 
[19:08]  * jussi needs to go now, laters all
[19:08] <shadeslayer> valorie: could you ping me when you're free for a bit?
[19:27] <claydoh> yeah, don't forget to include a Kubuntu thong :)
[19:28] <claydoh> or, better yet a t-shirt in my size
[19:32] <eMyller> hi, fellows :)
[19:45] <eMyller> me @ identica: OMG !KDE, blur is working again on intel graphics card on SC 4.7! ￼ can anyone tell me what happened?
[19:45] <eMyller> can anyone confirm this?
[19:46] <eMyller> and it's not even slow
[19:50] <claydoh> eMyller: I have had blur working well on my intel for a bit now, at least natty. Maybe I have one of the less crappy gpu's :)
[19:50] <eMyller> claydoh: kde sc 4.7?
[19:50] <claydoh> yup
[19:50] <eMyller> it was completely broken on 4.6
[19:51] <eMyller> and now is smoother than i'd ever expect.
[19:51] <claydoh> not for mine, though pre-natty it wasn't working for me iirc
[19:51] <claydoh> 4.4/4.5 somewhere
[19:52] <eMyller> as far as i've read, blur wasn't going to be fixed for a long time
[19:52] <claydoh> but yeah, it is sooooooooo nice to have
[19:52] <eMyller> and i didn't even heard about it
[19:52] <eMyller> * since then
[19:54] <eMyller> am looking forward to try oxygen-transparent
[19:54] <valorie> shadeslayer: pong
[19:54] <eMyller> do you have an updated deb or could point me to it?
[19:55] <eMyller> found nothing on PPAs. :|
[19:55] <claydoh> eMyller: plasma theme?
[19:55] <eMyller> claydoh: nope; qt/kwin
[19:56] <eMyller> claydoh: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=127752
[19:58] <claydoh> eMyller: that stinks, usually a theme creator makes it downloadable via the Get Hot New Stuff thing so you can install it from system settings
[19:59] <eMyller> those are binaries, not just markup
[19:59] <claydoh> yeah, so they are lazy :)
[19:59] <claydoh> use the simple build script to do it for you
[19:59] <eMyller> claydoh: to not distribute deb packages?
[20:00] <claydoh> don't need deb packages for this, that a lot of work iirc for something like this
[20:00] <eMyller> claydoh: i could, but i'm just avoiding having to download dependences on this crappy connection of mine.
[20:00] <eMyller> claydoh: i guess you're not aware of what's it about :P
[20:04] <claydoh> I can read :) )usually), but I think binaries could easily be built so that anyone regardless of distro
[20:04] <claydoh> which I guess may happen once they begin regular versioning
[20:05] <eMyller> exactly
[20:05] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/ksaneplugin] Philip Muškovac * 15 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu1
[20:05] <eMyller> but i didn't see that getting into any official repo yet :\
[20:06] <claydoh> well create a ppa for it :)
[20:07] <eMyller> if i had sufficient knowledge about it today...
[20:07] <eMyller> eventually, maybe :)
[20:08] <claydoh> good learning experience (I am still learning - need to update my kmymoney ppa soon)
[20:08] <eMyller> yeah. as soon as i have time, i'll play with desktop dev for a while
[20:09] <eMyller> [am a python web developer and sysadmin]
[20:26] <sheytan> jussi: no time, sorry :(
[20:39] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kig] Philip Muškovac * 8 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu1
[20:49] <eMyller> claydoh: i just built oxygen-transparent
[20:49] <eMyller> TIS BEAUTIFUL, OMG
[20:53] <claydoh> hehe
[20:53] <claydoh> worth the effort, then :D
[20:56] <ejat> eMyller : u have at ya PPA  ?
[20:57] <eMyller> ejat: nope :|
[20:57] <eMyller> dunno how to package and upload it
[21:01] <ejat> owh .. u just build it at ya machine :)
[21:02] <eMyller> ejat: yep
[21:14]  * Quintasan wonders if commit message made it here
[21:15]  * Quintasan tries kwin-gles
[21:20] <yofel_> didn't
[21:20] <Quintasan> Well whatever
[21:20] <yofel> or I missed it too ^^
[21:20]  * Quintasan wonders if kwin-gles will work on his box
[21:21] <eMyller> am trying to upload oxygen-transparent to my newly created PPA
[21:21] <Quintasan> ffs
[21:21] <eMyller> could anyone gimme a quick guide?
[21:21] <Quintasan> dput *.changes file
[21:21] <Quintasan> ooop
[21:21] <Quintasan> dput ppa:username/ppa *.changes
[21:22] <eMyller> what's this file?
[21:22] <Quintasan> It should get generated when you do debuild -S
[21:22] <yofel> it's created by debuild -S
[21:22]  * eMyller is reading about them on apt-cache
[21:23] <Quintasan> eMyller: Or file a bug and assign me to it
[21:23] <Quintasan> if you really feels like packaging this is really needed
[21:23]  * Quintasan thought this crap is going to be merged upstream
[21:23] <yofel> IMO the author should rather fix his kde-look setup so it appears in the download theme dialog
[21:24] <Quintasan> yofel: This whole thing is an ugly library hack
[21:24] <yofel> ah ok, then not ofc :/
[21:24] <Quintasan> Since when we BUILD themes?
[21:25]  * yofel likes transparency but will stick to what the oxygen team provides
[21:27] <eMyller> Quintasan: ugly?
[21:27] <Quintasan> eMyller: How did you build it?
[21:27] <Quintasan> eMyller: As in, messing with libs
[21:27] <eMyller> Quintasan: just ran the pl script from the repo
[21:28] <Quintasan> eMyller: Oh I see, that's not how you generate packages for PPA
[21:28] <eMyller> yeah... i guess that's how i just build and install for myself.
[21:28]  * yofel hopes that doesn't override any files
[21:28] <eMyller> how then? :D
[21:28] <yofel> otherwise that'll be complicated
[21:28] <eMyller> yofel: no it's not anymore.
[21:28] <eMyller> i think.
[21:29] <Quintasan> I do not really think a theme should look like that
[21:29] <eMyller> back in months ago, it was replacing default Oxygen theme
[21:29] <Quintasan> eMyller: Did the author even bother talking to upstream?
[21:29] <yofel> Quintasan: on kde-look.org he says it's rejected upstream
[21:29] <yofel> eMyller: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete
[21:30] <Quintasan> Then it must have been doing some nasty things
[21:30] <yofel> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=127752
[21:30] <eMyller> check his words about it. http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=127752
[21:31] <yofel> eMyller: but if the install process requires running a perl script that (probably) won't be too easy to package..
[21:31] <eMyller> yofel: the pearl script basically clones, configures and builds the thing
[21:32] <eMyller> i took a glance on it, nothing complex seems to be done.
[21:32]  * yofel fetches the source
[21:33] <yofel> ah, seems to use cmake, much easier :)
[21:39] <valorie> that's pretty
[21:39] <valorie> I'd like to use that
[21:41]  * eMyller is halfway done with the ppa thing
[21:43] <Quintasan> yofel: Do not bother
[21:43] <Quintasan> I just packaged it :/
[21:44] <yofel> ^^
[21:44] <Quintasan> yofel: Will adding kubuntu-ppa/backports dependency to my ppa allow me to build packages against 4.7.0?
[21:45] <yofel> should
[21:45] <Quintasan> oh wait, lp doesnt support xz yet
[21:48] <yofel> Quintasan: it does
[21:48] <yofel> we just use it in neon :P
[21:48] <Quintasan> ...
[21:48] <Quintasan> okay
[21:48] <Quintasan> :D
[21:48] <Quintasan> http://paste.kde.org/104275
[21:48] <Quintasan> wtf
[21:48] <Quintasan> dput--
[21:49] <yofel> yay, lp gpg server broken again
[21:49] <yofel> well, should work anyway
[21:50] <Quintasan> yofel: Feeling like testin kwin-gles?
[21:50] <yofel> I'm on my eeePC, so sure, once I finished installing updates
[21:50] <Quintasan> eMyller: https://launchpad.net/~quintasan/+archive/ppa
[21:50] <Quintasan> plasma-theme-oxygen-transparent should be here soon
[21:51] <Quintasan> yofel: branch kde-workspace and build for natty :P
[21:51] <Quintasan> doublebuilding ftw!
[21:52] <yofel> ok, I'll call back tomorrow evening if it should finish by then :P
[21:52] <Quintasan> lol
[21:52] <Quintasan> -j16 FTW
[21:52] <yofel> this is an atom n270, faster than my arm VMs, but still: forget it
[21:53] <eMyller> Quintasan: may i delete the ppa i created for it?
[21:53] <yofel> eMyller: er, leave it
[21:53] <yofel> it'll leave a PPA zombie, since you can't completely remove them...
[21:53] <Quintasan> eMyller: You can, but you might want it at some point in future
[21:54] <Quintasan> make -j1
[21:54] <Quintasan> WTF
[21:54] <Quintasan> PBUILDER DIE IN FIRE
[21:54] <eMyller> anyways, i'd appreciate it if you threw your shell logs at me so i could see what was done in order to upload the thing.
[21:54] <ejat> Quintasan : c00l :) 
[21:55]  * yofel goes back to uploading stuff
[21:55] <Quintasan> eMyller: dget -xu https://launchpad.net/~quintasan/+archive/ppa/+files/plasma-theme-oxygen-transparent_0.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1.dsc
[21:55] <Quintasan> eMyller: See plasma-theme-oxygen-transparent-0.1/debian directory
[21:55] <Quintasan> the files inside
[21:55] <Quintasan> this is how packaging works
[21:55] <eMyller> [offtopic] http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lopdzbnTio1qzmowao1_500.jpg
[21:56] <Quintasan> WHY WON'T YOU USE -J16 PBUILDER?
[21:57] <eMyller> Quintasan: nice, thanks :)
[21:58] <Quintasan> eMyller: Then, if you went to plasma-theme-oxygen-transparent-0.1 and invoked debuild -S it would do some magic to generate .dsc .changes files and sign them with you gpg key
[21:59] <eMyller> so that i could upload it
[21:59] <eMyller> using dput
[21:59] <Quintasan> To a PPA, yes
[21:59] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kiten] Philip Muškovac * 14 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu1
[22:00] <Quintasan> I'm feeling like playin some TF2
[22:00] <eMyller> Quintasan: thanks :)
[22:00] <Quintasan> eMyller: http://www.debian.org/doc/devel-manuals#maint-guide
[22:01] <Quintasan> This is a good read to get introduced to packaging
[22:01] <Quintasan> and I mean, everything there
[22:02] <eMyller> cool
[22:02] <Quintasan> ejat, eMyller: package is building, should be ready in 10 min or so
[22:02] <eMyller> added to the readlist (got some tabs blinking already :P)
[22:02] <eMyller> ty :)
[22:03] <ejat> Quintasan .. thanks .. i can see it on launchpad .. 
[22:07] <Quintasan> Quasseldroid ftw
[22:08] <eMyller> using quasselcore too?
[22:08] <Quintasan> More like using yofels core
[22:08] <yofel> and package failed to build already ^^
[22:09] <Quintasan> yofel: theme?
[22:09] <yofel> yep
[22:09] <Quintasan> ...
[22:09] <Quintasan> derp
[22:09] <Quintasan> What's wrong?
[22:09] <yofel> dh_install: plasma-theme-oxygen-transparent missing files (usr/lib/*), aborting
[22:09] <Quintasan> hmm
[22:09] <yofel> used --with kde?
[22:09] <Quintasan> yes
[22:10] <Quintasan> It installs stuff automatically?
[22:10] <yofel> it odes
[22:10] <yofel> debian/plasma-theme-oxygen-transparent/usr/lib/liboxygentransparentstyleconfig.so.4
[22:10] <Quintasan> ...
[22:10] <Quintasan> Care to fix it and upload somewhere else?
[22:11] <yofel> lemme dget it
[22:12]  * Quintasan just started TF2 to own JT
[22:12] <Quintasan> hmm
[22:12] <Quintasan> JT is so dead
[22:12] <Quintasan> in TF
[22:12] <yofel> lol
[22:13] <eMyller> Quintasan: why did you call it "plasma-theme"?
[22:13] <Quintasan> since it's a plasma theme?
[22:14] <eMyller> is it? Oo
[22:14] <yofel> uh...
[22:14] <yofel> Quintasan: window decos?
[22:14] <eMyller> kwin/qt
[22:24] <ejat> now yofel wanna try to fix it ? 
[22:26] <yofel> what was up agani?
[22:26] <yofel> *again
[22:28] <ejat> i dc just now .. i mean .. the plasma theme oxygen transparent :)
[22:28]  * ejat lost the conversation .. 
[22:29] <yofel> ah, yeah, working on it
[22:29] <yofel> building on an Atom takes a while ^^
[22:29] <ejat> ok thanks :) .. 
[22:29] <ejat> u try at ya machine 1st b4 upload ?
[22:30] <ejat> :)
[22:30] <yofel> I first need to find what's wrong, either it's tricky or I'm too tired to miss the obvious
[22:31] <yofel> Y U BUILD -j1 dpkg-buildpackag? *-.-
[22:32] <ejat> owh ic :) .. tracing … 
[22:33] <ejat> it seem .. this year i havent update my packaging / doing any packaging yet :(
[22:33] <yofel> feel free to poke for work once 4.7.1 is tagged ;)
[22:34] <yofel> Quintasan: a) it's not just usr/lib/ stuff b) just junk  the install file
[22:34] <ejat> ouch … 
[22:36] <ejat> yofel : havent try much on packaging for kde .. just some apps that less dependencies .. maybe i need mentor if i want to join u ninja guys
[22:37] <yofel> ejat: now with the splits there is a lot of simple stuff, not too hard even for packaging beginners
[22:38] <yofel> your work gets reviewed anyway (unlike your personal packaging) ;)
[22:38] <ejat> ic .. 
[22:42] <ejat> splits ? 
[22:45] <yofel> ejat: kdeedu, kdegraphics and kdebindings source packages got split up into smaller pieces
[22:45] <yofel> has to do with the svn -> git move at kde
[22:45] <ejat> ic .. 
[22:47] <ejat> http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/MovetoGit
[22:49] <ejat> ok .. get the full pict .. thanks again .. 
[22:54] <yofel> ScottK: mind taking a look at smokeqt next? It's in source new and once that's in we can upload qtruby and perlqt
[23:08] <yofel> bah, kiten not in packageset :(
[23:10] <yofel> ah, it's in universe...
[23:13] <yofel> Quintasan: can you upload that?
[23:30] <yofel> eMyller: https://launchpad.net/~yofel/+archive/ppa/+packages together with other stuff, so make sure you only take oxygen-transparent