| Noldorin_ | hi wgrant | 05:58 |
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| Noldorin_ | (if you're around) | 05:58 |
| wgrant | Noldorin_: Hi. | 06:42 |
| Noldorin_ | wgrant, was just going to ask: what is special about the Trunk series that bug tasks can be switched to it? | 06:59 |
| Noldorin_ | wgrant, Trunk is special as a name or something else? | 07:03 |
| wgrant | Noldorin_: It's not a special name. Just whichever series is set as the development focus. | 07:08 |
| Noldorin_ | wgrant, and there's only one development focus, correct | 07:10 |
| Noldorin_ | ? | 07:10 |
| wgrant | Noldorin_: Right. | 07:10 |
| Noldorin_ | ok... | 07:11 |
| Noldorin_ | wgrant, so to confirm: series bug tasks for bag ports, trunk bug tasks for nothing, and project bug tasks for all bugs? | 07:13 |
| Noldorin_ | ("won't fix" should undo the Trunk task...) | 07:13 |
| wgrant | Noldorin_: Pretty much, yep/. | 07:29 |
| Noldorin_ | wgrant, ah good. sorry, remind me how Trunk bugs are sometimes used.../ | 07:29 |
| wgrant | Noldorin_: Ubuntu uses them to track bugs of interest to a particular release. | 07:33 |
| Noldorin_ | wgrant, ah yes...but if they're for a particular release, surely they should be assigned a *release series* (rather than Trunk) task? | 07:43 |
| Noldorin_ | wgrant, Trunk seems inappropaite in that case | 07:49 |
| Noldorin_ | meh | 07:55 |
| Noldorin_ | wgrant, well i'm off now, but feel free to ping me when i'm back tomorrow :-) | 07:56 |
| wgrant | Noldorin_: Ubuntu doesn't have a trunk series. | 07:59 |
| wgrant | Noldorin_: The development focus is the development release. | 07:59 |
| Noldorin_ | wgrant, ohh ok | 08:01 |
| Noldorin_ | wgrant, so given that i *do* have a Trunk series it makes zero sense to target to Trunk then... | 08:01 |
| Noldorin_ | i think | 08:01 |
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| Laney | why did https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/oneiric-changes/2011-July/005553.html not get a changesfile? | 11:00 |
| wgrant | Laney: We don't have the Debian changes files. | 11:21 |
| Laney | wgrant: it was one of the new syncs? | 11:22 |
| wgrant | Laney: Yes. | 11:22 |
| wgrant | That's why the changelog is terrible. | 11:22 |
| Laney | ah, and previously AA syncs weren't announced to -changes | 11:23 |
| wgrant | Well, AA syncs had fake changes files. | 11:23 |
| wgrant | They were done pretty much identically to that script some MOTU use :) | 11:24 |
| Laney | yeah. I was just wondering if my UDD (as in Debian's UDD) data was going to regress because of this. | 11:24 |
| wgrant | But now these are done using native Soyuz package copies, from an import of the Debian archive. | 11:24 |
| wgrant | Hmm. | 11:24 |
| Laney | but if syncs were never in -changes, then it won't | 11:24 |
| wgrant | Autosyncs never were, right. | 11:25 |
| Laney | requestsyncs were? | 11:25 |
| wgrant | Yes. | 11:25 |
| Laney | hmm. | 11:25 |
| wgrant | You should probably use the API rather than -changes. | 11:25 |
| wgrant | APIs like getPublishedSources provide all publications, not just those that are announced :) | 11:26 |
| Laney | yeah, that would simplify matters. | 11:28 |
| wgrant | The other UDD already uses getPublishedSources for similar purposes. | 11:29 |
| Laney | I need to be able to get at least this data http://paste.debian.net/124665/ | 11:35 |
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| Noldorin | hi wgrant ... i think i lost connection yesterday. was just saying/confirming that "Status tracked in Trunk" is fairly useless as a bug task. | 19:16 |
| lifeless | Noldorin: it depends on the project whether thats particularly useful or not | 19:52 |
| lifeless | Noldorin: ubuntu (and some other projects) change their trunk every release, and status tracked in trunk means that the bugs stay linked to the old trunk when that change occurs | 19:53 |
| Noldorin | lifeless, but Trunk in their case is actually a release series right? | 19:59 |
| Noldorin | lifeless, in my case it's devel | 19:59 |
| lifeless | yes | 20:01 |
| Noldorin | lifeless, sorry, got disconnected there | 20:35 |
| Noldorin | did you respond? | 20:35 |
| lifeless | I did. | 20:35 |
| lifeless | I said 'yes' | 20:35 |
| Noldorin | lifeless, oh good. so i think i'm clear on things now | 20:36 |
| Noldorin | lifeless, by the way, will the ability to delete bug targets be coming at some point? :-) | 20:36 |
| lifeless | maybe | 20:36 |
| lifeless | (sorry I cannot be more definite yet) | 20:36 |
| Noldorin | that's ok | 20:37 |
| Noldorin | lifeless, at least it's under consideration | 20:37 |
| Noldorin | lifeless, for now, setting to "Won't Fix" does the job i believe. | 20:37 |
| Noldorin | lifeless, ? | 20:54 |
| lifeless | Noldorin: yes? | 21:03 |
| Noldorin | <Noldorin> lifeless, for now, setting to "Won't Fix" does the job i believe. | 21:03 |
| Noldorin | sorry, that was an (implicit) question :-) | 21:03 |
| lifeless | Noldorin: what job ? | 21:09 |
| Noldorin | lifeless, oh. it's an idiom in English. sorry, assumed you were a native speaker. | 21:10 |
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| lifeless | Noldorin: I am, but I'm not clear what you are asking. | 21:15 |
| Noldorin | lifeless, oh. setting a bug target to "won't fix" should restore the project itself as the bug target - correct? | 21:17 |
| lifeless | I don't know. Try it. | 21:17 |
| lifeless | Its a conjoined master, so I would expect it to change the project task as well. | 21:18 |
| Noldorin | ok | 21:18 |
| Noldorin | will do | 21:18 |
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| jo-erlend | I've started a Norwegian channel for Python developers and I'd like to create a little stronger organization than an IRC channel provides. I thought perhaps a Launchpad team would be the way to go. That way we can setup a mailinglist, add a bazaar branch for translating tutorials and such, right? It's not necessary to create a project as well? | 21:20 |
| lifeless | jo-erlend: you need a project if you want bugs|gettext translations|a dedicated branch namespace | 21:27 |
| lifeless | jo-erlend: if you don't need any of those, you don't need a project | 21:27 |
| Noldorin | lifeless, seems to work yes :-) | 21:31 |
| jo-erlend | lifeless, great. I'm registering a team. It asks me for the subscription policy and says an open team cannot have PPAs. This can be changed at a later time, yes? | 21:34 |
| lifeless | jo-erlend: the team can be made non-open later | 21:38 |
| Noldorin | lifeless, lastly, how can i view closed bugs in LP? | 21:39 |
| lifeless | do you mean find them ? | 21:39 |
| Noldorin | lifeless, view a list of them | 21:40 |
| lifeless | advanced byug search | 21:40 |
| Noldorin | thanks | 21:40 |
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| jo-erlend | why can't I set my own email address as the contact address for a team I've created? | 22:01 |
| maxb | I think because Launchpad expects email addresses to uniquely identify people, and it considers teams to be "people" too | 22:10 |
| lifeless | jo-erlend: the contact address identifies mail *from* people as well as *to* peple. | 22:21 |
| jo-erlend | lifeless, I don't understand what that means. | 22:24 |
| lifeless | jo-erlend: we cannot have the same email address twice in the system, or we cannot determine who to use for checking permissions, signatures etc when someone sends a mail to a bug/question/blueprint etc | 22:26 |
| jo-erlend | ah. | 22:30 |
| jo-erlend | so we have to setup a separate email account if we want one person to handle those kinds of notifications? | 22:31 |
| lifeless | this is about mail coming *into* launchpad | 22:32 |
| lifeless | normally you won't want a contact address on LP teams. | 22:32 |
| lifeless | what are you trying to achieve? | 22:32 |
| jo-erlend | how do I delete an active poll? I just wanted to test something sine I hadn't done it before, but I messed it up and now it won't go away! :) | 22:38 |
| jo-erlend | lifeless, nothing special, really. But if there is lots of routine launchpad technical stuff, then I want to handle that for the team so the mailinglist doesn't get spammed with uninteresting stuff for the other members. | 22:39 |
| lifeless | if the team is assigned to a task, then the members of the team are notified | 22:41 |
| lifeless | if the team has a new member requested etc, then the admins are notified | 22:42 |
| lifeless | it should all Just Work in a sane way. | 22:42 |
| lifeless | don't try to fine tune until you have some experience ;) | 22:42 |
| jo-erlend | lifeless, that's a good advise. :) | 22:44 |
| poolie | hi lifeless, all | 22:44 |
| lifeless | hi poolie | 22:45 |
| jo-erlend | lifeless, ok. So we have a team, and are now two members. We would like to have a place to track plans and ideas for how to grow the community. I thought that could be done using bugs and blueprints. Then it makes sense to create a project called python-no-community for instance and add the team to it? | 22:45 |
| lifeless | sure | 22:46 |
| lifeless | note that you probably want to make the team a bug supervisor, otherwise lp will mail the project owner on every bug change no matter what | 22:47 |
| jo-erlend | thanks. | 22:49 |
| jo-erlend | can I change the title for a project at a later time? | 22:49 |
| lifeless | yes | 22:50 |
| jo-erlend | is translations only meant for short strings in applications, or can it be used to translate manuals and such as well? | 23:10 |
| lifeless | its basically gettext | 23:12 |
| jo-erlend | lifeless, yes, but that doesn't really answer my question. | 23:20 |
| lifeless | well, gettext is designed for short strings | 23:21 |
| superm1 | hey launchpad guys, could you comment on this error that our automated build bot was spitting out on it's dput: http://paste.ubuntu.com/655933/ | 23:35 |
| superm1 | the file signing stuff hasn't changed at all, and it worked for the build right before that | 23:35 |
| lifeless | its probably our intermittent gpg bug | 23:36 |
| lifeless | the upload should have gone through | 23:36 |
| lifeless | bug 798957 | 23:36 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 798957 in Launchpad itself "Uploads are seemingly (but not actually) rejected" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/798957 | 23:36 |
| superm1 | yeah checking the PPA, the upload did go through, but the uploads that were supposed to happen after that didn't happen because of the non-zero exit on dpu | 23:37 |
| superm1 | ok | 23:37 |
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