[00:22] <ali1234> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-14305667?postId=109829019#comment_109829019
[00:22] <ali1234> fail
[00:28] <ali1234> i really want to reply to that post, but i don't have an account on the bbc comments and i can't be bothered to make one
[00:30] <hamitron> :)
[00:31]  * hamitron offers ali1234 a cup of tea to sit down and chill with
[00:48]  * penguin42 waits for his main machine to finish upgrading to oo
[00:48] <Jora> Hi brits
[00:52] <hamitron> penguin42: oo?
[00:52] <hamitron> hi Jora
[00:53] <penguin42> hamitron: Oneiric Ocelot
[00:53] <hamitron> :/
[01:07] <mattt> evening
[02:29] <Bomster> evening
[08:00] <MooDoo> morning all
[08:00] <_serial_> morning
[08:00] <MartijnVdS> hi
[08:10] <popey> Morning
[08:12] <MooDoo> morning popey
[08:20] <nperry> morning all o/
[08:23] <MooDoo> :)
[09:58] <brobostigon> good morning veryone.
[10:58] <scoundrel50a> test
[10:58] <scoundrel50a> so it is working.....its very quiet
[11:00] <MooDoo> it always is on a sunday
[11:00] <MooDoo> besides it's F1 day :D
[14:53] <mattt> me naps
[15:39] <MooDoo> >
[15:52] <brobostigon> o/
[15:57]  * penguin42 thinks most people are napping today
[15:57] <MooDoo> snooooooooor
[15:58] <penguin42> zzzzzz
[16:03] <shauno> meh.  I'm at work :/
[16:03]  * brobostigon is watching tv, with a beer.
[16:07] <MooDoo> me too shauno
[16:10] <brobostigon> :(
[16:11]  * brobostigon gets beer ready for shauno and MooDoo 
[17:17] <AlanBell> I have not been napping
[17:17] <AlanBell> I found a 750W reciprocating power saw in the garage that I forgot I owned
[17:18] <AlanBell> so I chopped most of my garden down
[17:19] <penguin42> is that good?
[17:19] <AlanBell> felt good doing it
[17:19] <AlanBell> big boys toys :)
[17:24] <bigcalm> Is it better to use PHP's Mail() or SMTP when both are useable?
[17:25] <StevenR> bigcalm: whatever you do, submit to localhost and have it relay
[17:25] <StevenR> (if it's PHP, have it spit the mail at localhost ... not sure what you mean by "or SMTP" ... does Mail() not do SMTP?)
[17:28] <bigcalm> I'm using Mail_Queue for the bulk sending of emails. You have to specify a driver, such as: mail, smtp, sendmail
[17:32] <StevenR> bigcalm: it doesn't sound like it would matter too much (unless the Mail() config in... I think php.ini...  is something that you don't want to use)
[17:34] <StevenR> (I'd still submit mail to localhost though, and let the local MTA handle forwarding it on)
[17:34] <daubers> lo
[17:37] <StevenR> high
[18:32] <Am|n> hi
[18:32] <Am|n> hru
[18:51] <popey> evening
[18:52] <brobostigon> evening popey
[19:12] <bottomface> hey you guys
[19:13] <bottomface> playdeb keeps giving me software not in my sources when i click install from the site
[19:14] <bottomface> I cant figure it out I've added the repository and everything.
[19:24] <daubers> lo
[20:45] <Datass> irc.geekshed.net
[21:04] <dogmatic69_> o/
[21:28] <vuth> hi UK
[21:32] <vuth> anyone know a lot about building PC?
[21:35] <StevenR> it depends what you want to know :)
[21:35] <Azelphur> vuth: yea
[21:35] <vuth> okok
[21:35] <vuth> k i have a HP SR5152NX desktop and it has a micro motherboard inside it but the case is a medium size according to the specs
[21:36] <vuth> can i use the case and buy a new motherboard maybe a medium size one
[21:37] <StevenR> vuth: probably. you should be able to measure the inside of the case, and look at the specs of the motherboard. Why do you need a larger motherboard?
[21:37] <Azelphur> vuth: motherboard size specifications arn't medium or small
[21:37] <Azelphur> they are ATX, or micro ATX
[21:37] <Azelphur> or both, there are a few other specs but they arn't widely used
[21:37] <Azelphur> make sure your case can take full size ATX motherboards and as StevenR says measure up.
[21:38] <Azelphur> all well and good being big enough, but if you don't have the ATX screw holes it's not gonna be fun unless your handy with a drill.
[21:38] <dogmatic69_> you can get a new case for 10 bucks if you check the internet for about 3 minutes
[21:38] <Azelphur> ^ that too
[21:39] <vuth> so there is only 2 types Azelphur?
[21:39] <Azelphur> vuth: there are other types, but the vast majority are ATX/Micro ATX
[21:40] <Azelphur> your gonna be hard pressed to find the other types
[21:40] <vuth> mATX = micro ATX right?
[21:40] <Azelphur> yea
[21:41] <vuth> are u running Ubuntu 64 bit right now?
[21:41] <Azelphur> yes
[21:42] <vuth> the latest version or the Long Term SUpport version 10
[21:42] <vuth> ?
[21:42] <Azelphur> latest
[21:42] <vuth> kewl...do u run many windows program?
[21:42] <vuth> or games...since theres not many good game that is linux native
[21:43] <Azelphur> some, I obviously avoid it when able
[21:43] <Azelphur> yes, mostly games.
[21:43] <Azelphur> I'm one of the few nutty Linux gamers
[21:43] <vuth> and u use wine for that right?
[21:43] <Azelphur> yep
[21:43] <dogmatic69_> minecraft works fine, what more do you need?
[21:44] <brobostigon> good night everyone, sleep well.
[21:44] <dogmatic69_> later brobostigon
[21:44] <brobostigon> dogmatic69_: good night.
[21:45] <dogmatic69_> anyone fly rc stuff by chance?
[21:47] <vuth> :P
[21:48] <vuth> does ubuntu have the snap to screen feature liek win 7?
[21:49] <vuth> like u drag the window to the top and it auto maximizes, to the right it max on the right side only, etc.?
[21:49] <dogmatic69_> yes
[21:49] <dogmatic69_> but only if it was big
[21:49] <dogmatic69_> from screen 1 -> 2 etc
[21:50] <vuth> remote control planes?
[21:51] <dogmatic69_> yip
[21:51] <dogmatic69_> and/or helicopter
[21:51] <vuth> no i dont...exxpensive hobby that is
[21:51] <dogmatic69_> only when you learning ;)
[21:51] <vuth> i sometimes build military models..tanks and fighters
[21:53] <vuth> im building a T-80BV right now
[21:58] <vuth> libreoffice and open office same thing right?
[22:14] <AlanBell> vuth: pretty much
[22:15] <AlanBell> LibreOffice is a fork, slightly different licensing situation and slightly different branding, nothing you are likely to notice
[22:36] <directhex> vuth: the picture i just found of a SR5152NX definitely does not appear to be full ATX
[22:38] <directhex> ultrabudget nforce 6150se board, by the look of it
[22:40] <directhex> power supply seems a funny shape, to my eye. which is bad for replacing the innards, since OEM power supplies tend to be useless
[22:42] <directhex> 550w? hm, could be worse, then
[22:48] <C-S-B> I've got the feeling that rsync is backing up hardlinks/softlinks and using up twice as much space... is that right?