[00:00] <mikeIsNew> nsadmin2, I don't know, but it used to work for previous ubuntu versions
[00:00] <CoJaBo> sure
[00:00] <nsadmin2> "for" is the first word in a BASIC for/next loop
[00:00] <dsnyders> rww, what?  Are you saying that the ip address can change depending on who logs in?
[00:01] <rww> dsnyders: sure, if for example you're using wifi and the users configured different networks to associate with
[00:01] <mikeIsNew> ActionParsnip: don't know if everything was sent here but i do see a wireless network interface here
[00:02] <nsadmin2> mikeIsNew, oh, then it could be that the firmware and/or firmware loader got lost in the upgrade?
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> mikeIsNew: if you run:  dmesg | less     you can see the file it expects then see what provides it
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> mikeIsNew: I'd also run:  sudo apt-get install linux-firmware
[00:04] <mikeIsNew> ActionParsnip: linux-firmware is already installed
[00:04] <mikeIsNew> ActionParsnip: I don't really know what to make out of dmesg | less. What do I have to look for?
[00:05] <w30> dsnyders, I looked at the back of a terminal on a screen at the Mayo Clinic and I saw a list of about 75 network addresses, ha!
[00:05] <mikeIsNew> nsadmin2: I am afraid so. I already tried to install the windows wifi stuff through ndiswrapper, did not work either
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> mikeIsNew: the word firmware, anything about networks. Its very readable
[00:05] <w30> dsnyders, pick one
[00:05] <DeltaDrone> If I use Gparted in ubuntu to shrink an ntfs partition with data on it. will it do so in a way that preserves the data?
[00:06] <adzy> can anyone recommend a tool for burning avi to dvd ??? so i can play it in dvd player
[00:06] <adzy> ?
[00:06] <adzy> i know windows has converx to dvd
[00:06] <adzy> what about ubunt?
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> DeltaDrone: it should, be sure your backups are sufficiently recent in case of catastrophe
[00:06] <DeltaDrone> adzy, a lot of dvd players will play divx these days
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> adzy: devede
[00:06] <w30> DeltaDrone, it tells you if you go too small
[00:06] <adzy> ActionParsnip, thanks
[00:07] <adzy> DeltaDrone, thanks
[00:07] <DeltaDrone> w30, the data maybe written all over the hard drive
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> adzy: it makes a DVD ISO from videos and then you can burn it slowly
[00:07] <DeltaDrone> w30, it may need to actively move files on the disk
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> adzy: even lets you make a menu screen etc
[00:07] <w30> DeltaDrone, recommend to defrag Windows first
[00:08] <adzy> ActionParsnip, that sounds pretty good!
[00:08] <mikeIsNew> ActionParsnip: well I guess that's the problem [   48.379243] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file "b43/ucode5.fw" not found
[00:08] <DeltaDrone> hmm, then i have a different question, how safe is it to write to ntfs from ubuntu
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> mikeIsNew: perfect, use it to find guides
[00:09] <DeltaDrone> i heard that the 3rd gen ntfs was quite good
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | mikeIsNew
[00:09] <DeltaDrone> but not sure how you make sure it is in use
[00:09] <w30> DeltaDrone, its been safe for a while, there was problems writing across networks
[00:09] <yeats> DeltaDrone: advice: try using Windows built-in "shrink partition" function and see if that buys you enough space
[00:10] <yeats> (assuming Vista/Win7)
[00:10] <DeltaDrone> i'm using xp pro x64
[00:11] <DeltaDrone> yeats: I'm using xp pro x64, keep forgetting to put names at the front
[00:11] <rww> I think XP Pro has it also.
[00:11] <mikeIsNew> ubottu: thanks, I'm trying this right now. Rebooting, hope this works, Bye for now.
[00:13] <arooni-mobile> hi folks... is there a way to auto sign me into chat accounts on 11.04;  i have to do it manually on every restart
[00:13] <yeats> arooni-mobile: with Epiphany?
[00:14] <arooni-mobile> yeats, ya
[00:14] <yeats> arooni-mobile: you mean starting the program or configuring the accounts every time?
[00:14] <arooni-mobile> yeats, accts have been configured;  this is for signing in to a parituclar chat acct
[00:15] <rww> yeats: empathy, not epiphany ;)
[00:15]  * rww gets them mixed up too
[00:15] <yeats> rww: arg - thanks
[00:16] <felipe_Brz> My question is here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/55168/regarding-folder-synching-mapping   Thank you!
[00:16] <yeats> arooni-mobile: System -> Preferences -> Startup Programs (iirc) will let you add it there (if you mean you want empathy to start when you log in)
[00:16] <DeltaDrone> if i just do a standard "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/d" operation in the terminal, should this give me stable write access?
[00:16] <DeltaDrone> to ntfs?
[00:17] <DeltaDrone> or do i need some more complicated commands?
[00:17] <yeats> DeltaDrone: you might need 'sudo mount -t ntfs...'
[00:18] <DeltaDrone> it has mounted, but i don't know if it has done so in a stable writeable way
[00:18] <DeltaDrone> yeats, could you write out the whole command for me as i'm dense and affraid
[00:20] <yeats> DeltaDrone: I would try 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /mnt/d'
[00:20] <dsnyders> Okay, I deleted the Auto eth0 and moved the manual config data into eth0.
[00:20] <DeltaDrone> yeats, thanks
[00:20] <yeats> DeltaDrone: but no need for fear - your system will let you know if it's wrong ;-)
[00:20] <DeltaDrone> i just don't want to f up my file system
[00:21] <mikeIsNew> Hi I'm back, this time via WiFI!
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> DeltaDrone: just make sure backups are good and you have nothing to worry about
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> mikeIsNew: wtg :)
[00:21] <mikeIsNew> installing bcmwl-kernel-source did the trick
[00:23] <mikeIsNew> I'm just wondering why i had to install this myself, wireless used to work out of the box with previous ubuntu versions...
[00:24] <mikeIsNew> Anyways, thanks a lot for your effort, ActionParsnip, it's appreciated
[00:25] <adzy> !samba
[00:26] <mikeIsNew> oh while I'm at it. A friend of mine asked me yesterday what would be the most convenient way to mount a network share (samba) in  a linux fs
[00:26] <mikeIsNew> any ideas?
[00:26] <Ynodde_> mikeIsNew:smbmount ?
[00:27] <Ynodde_> mikeIsNew:in what way actually, form fstab ?
[00:27] <mikeIsNew> Ynodde_: hm.. I'
[00:28] <mikeIsNew> m n ot even sure about that
[00:28] <mikeIsNew> I  guess it would be mounted on demand
[00:28] <nsadmin2> mikeIsNew how do you mean "in a linux filesystem"?
[00:29] <Ynodde_> mikeIsNew: i usually just browse the windows network form linux for "on demand" mounts
[00:30] <Ynodde_> mikeIsNew:if i want a permamount i would add it to my /etc/fstab and give it a nice static place onder /mnt/sharename
[00:30] <dsnyders> Hi all!  How do you get ifconfig to display all the addresses on a multihomed interface?
[00:30] <rww> dsnyders: perhaps ifconfig -a
[00:31] <rww> oh wait no, that's all interfaces. hrm.
[00:31] <mikeIsNew> Ynodde_: Yeah, I usually browse through nautilus, but my friend asked how to actually mount a network share, and admittedly I didn't know a satisfying answer
[00:32] <Crash03> how to add my wlan driver i have it for ubuntu but dont know what to do with it
[00:32] <eoss> http://www.nydailynews.com/tech_guide/2011/07/29/2011-07-29_house_panel_approves_isp_snooping_bill_hr_1981.html
[00:32] <mikeIsNew> Ynodde_: I'm  not really following you with the fstab attempt, what would would you add there?
[00:32] <rww> !ot | eoss
[00:33] <Ynodde_> mikeIsNew:i will have to lookup exact command, since nautilus has such nice supprt i havent used it anymore ;-)
[00:33] <Crash03> any one tell what to do with my wlan driver to make it work please
[00:34] <mudcat> my pc won't boot up. fans turns on and then off while led in front stays lit. what's wrong?
[00:34] <mikeIsNew> Crash03: What exactly do you have? A binary executable?
[00:34] <Crash03> ya ita .bin file
[00:34] <mikeIsNew> Crash03: did you try to run it?
[00:35] <Gasseus> Umm... I can't get my microphone to work properly. Can someone help me?
[00:35] <Crash03> with what do i open it with
[00:35] <Syniq> 1
[00:35] <Syniq> 1
[00:35] <Syniq> grrrr
[00:35] <FloodBot1> Syniq: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:35] <Ynodde_> mikeIsNew:http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=2696 has a nice explanation to do it securely
[00:35] <mikeIsNew> Crash03: Start a terminal session; Go to the directory your executable is in, and run "./<filename>.bin
[00:36] <Syniq> Oh, right, because I'm deliberately missing the / key on purpose.
[00:36] <Crash03> ok
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> mikeIsNew: nautilus and pcmanfm can mount samba
[00:36] <Gasseus> Can someone help me with my microphone problems?
[00:37] <Syniq> Have I mentioned that I hate auto-response bots from the bottom of my heart?
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> Gasseus: what is the issue?
[00:37] <mikeIsNew> ActionParsnip: But nautilus "forgets" the mount as soon as I close it, right?
[00:37]  * rww feeds some cookies to FloodBot1 
[00:37] <Gasseus> ActionParsnip I'm trying to record from it, have tried everything I can, but the audio won't record.
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> mikeIsNew: add it as a bookmark, is is mounted til you unmount it or rebbot
[00:37]  * Syniq gives Big Brother a wide berth. TTFN.
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> Gasseus: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[00:38] <Ynodde_> mikeIsNew:Bookmarks are a nice solution for quick remounting
[00:38] <bluezone> Are the ubuntu devs planning on supporting python 3 in the near future (as default) instead of python 2?
[00:38] <Faustus2> some of my single-mouse-clicks are working like double-clicks. I think this is a registered bug, but is there a workaround? ubuntu 11.04
[00:39] <nsadmin2> bluezone, look at present debian unstable for clues; talk to the maint
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> Faustus2: is the system set to single click open in mouse prefs?
[00:39] <bluezone> Faustus2, my stupid 2 cents: have you tried unplugging/ repluggin? :)
[00:39] <Faustus2> bluezone: yup :)
[00:40] <bluezone> damn! lol
[00:40] <rww> bluezone: It's not happening for oneiric. Things like that are decided at UDS every six months, so 12.04 and above aren't decided yet.
[00:40] <Gasseus> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/655399/
[00:40] <Faustus2> ActionParsnip: mouse prefs? but only some single-clicks are working like double clikcs, and randomly :S
[00:40] <DeltaDrone> is there some reason why ubuntu doesn't seem to be able to play mp3s?
[00:40] <mikeIsNew2> ActionParsnip: Bookmarking is a great idea, i didn't even think of that
[00:40] <DeltaDrone> or download a plugin that would enable it to?
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> Gasseus: ok run: gedit /tmp/alsa-info.txt.XWZk3hzpog    pastebin the text please
[00:41] <mikeIsNew2> wth did i get kicked and can't reconnect?
[00:41] <bluezone> rww, ah, well i should probably learn python 3 then, it would be a strike a bad luck if they don't
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> Faustus2: is there a pattern> certain file types etc?
[00:41] <Gasseus> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/655400/
[00:41] <rww> mikeIsNew2: your connection to freenode hiccuped, by the look of it
[00:42] <Faustus2> DeltaDrone:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted* clementine
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> Faustus2: what make and model is the mouse? have you tried a different usb port?
[00:42] <mikeIsNew2> awesome
[00:42] <Faustus2> DeltaDrone: then use clementine to play mp3s
[00:42] <DeltaDrone> ah
[00:42] <Faustus2> ActionParsnip: tried different usb
[00:42] <DeltaDrone> Faustus2, i don't see it under applications
[00:42] <Faustus2> ActionParsnip: no pattern, is like this in all apps.
[00:42] <felipe_Brz> Could anybody answer me this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/55168/regarding-folder-synching-mapping
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> Gasseus: can you pastebin /etc/lsb-release    thanks
[00:43]  * rww bets natty
[00:43] <Faustus2> DeltaDrone: install it first
[00:43] <w30> Faustus2, have you  tried dfferent double click speeds
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> rww: the alsa script didn't pick it up, so we'll see ;)
[00:44] <Gasseus> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/655401
[00:44] <rww> ActionParsnip: kernel version :)
[00:44] <Gasseus> its natty
[00:44] <Faustus2> w30 yup
[00:44] <w30> Faustus2, speeds in the config settings not hand speed
[00:45] <Paddy_NI> Does anyone know how I can create a bootable Windows XP USB Flash/Pen disk from Ubuntu... I am using a netbook
[00:45] <Gasseus> Paddy_NI Not legally
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image
[00:45] <Faustus2> w30: yup system > prefs > mouse
[00:45] <Paddy_NI> OH?
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> Gasseus: why do you have 2.6.38-11 ?
[00:45] <qin> felipe_Brz: does symlinks do not work? inotify with rsync (either per user or as root)
[00:45] <Gasseus> ActionParsnip I use the upstream stuff
[00:45]  * rww bets -proposed
[00:45] <DeltaDrone> Faustus2, i'm running of the live cd
[00:46] <Paddy_NI> Gasseus:  You're joking man... :-(
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> rww: what is the support stance on proposed?
[00:46] <rww> ActionParsnip: approximately, "lol"
[00:46] <Gasseus> Paddy_NI Windows XP License
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> rww: nice
[00:46] <felipe_Brz> qin: I've never used either of those.. Do they solve my problem?
[00:47] <Faustus2> DeltaDrone: ahhh.. im not sure its possible then.. :(
[00:47] <Benkinooby> hi i want to use a compositing window manager. i read that kwin can be used standalone, but on log in i can not select it. any ideas?
[00:47] <Paddy_NI> Gasseus: Yeah several
[00:47] <Paddy_NI> Gasseus: All legit.. yes I am a Mug but I have to have them for my job
[00:48] <qin> felipe_Brz: Try "man ln" first, if this works, just add all users to ftp group and set right permissions.
[00:48] <Gasseus> Paddy_NI: Did you try ##Windows?
[00:48] <brandon> Hello, by any chance is anyone here a programmer that knows HTML and CSS?
[00:48] <Gasseus> brandon yeah why?
[00:48] <qin> brandon: /join #web
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> Gasseus: try adding: options snd-hda-intel model=asus position_fix=1 enable_msi=1   to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf    but BEFORE that, boot to the STABLE kernel. Does it work there?
[00:48] <rww> ActionParsnip: (I checked the -proposed versioning, btw. It is indeed -11)
[00:48] <felipe_Brz> qin: ok I will. thanks
[00:48] <EEMPHASISS> New: Where is a samba mount mounted when I have an encrypted home dir... it's not .gvfs where I expected id.
[00:49] <Gasseus> ActionParsnip Stable kernel causes kernel panic D:
[00:49] <Paddy_NI> Gasseus: It's going to be a redirect I already know.. catch 22 I am running Ubuntu only on this netbook and asking in a windows channel
[00:49] <EEMPHASISS> *it*
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> brandon: try a web dev channel for html questions
[00:49] <qin> felipe_Brz: Or, "man inotify" "man rsync", so you can run "live" synchrinisation between folders.
[00:49] <Gasseus> Paddy_NI Eh, they'd likely be able to help
[00:50] <brandon> Okay, thank you for pointing me in the right direction.
[00:50] <Gasseus> Paddy_NI Don't say you use ubuntu, use wine for whatever they say to do
[00:50] <tomgeorge> hello everyone
[00:50] <rww> brandon: (e.g. #html, #css, #web)
[00:50] <ejo> Where's the best place to ask about Xinerama problems?  Is there a channel just for ubuntu video display questions?
[00:50] <tomgeorge> any place where I can find help on computer vision?
[00:50] <rww> ejo: no, there isn't
[00:50] <ejo> rww: thank you... so right here then?
[00:50] <rww> ejo: indeed
[00:51] <tomgeorge> rww any place where I can find help on computer vision?
[00:51] <tomgeorge> Specifically face recognition?
[00:51] <rww> tomgeorge: no idea
[00:52] <Ariel_Calzada> hi i've installed 11.04 and when my laptop restart with gnome , the conky font-size is too big, if i restart conky the font size looks good any idea???
[00:52] <tomgeorge> that's bizzare
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> Ariel_Calzada: try adding a small sleep (delay) to the starting of conky
[00:53] <emmkai> i have a remote computer and a local computer, i want to get data from my remote computer
[00:53] <chalcedony> does anyone know if 11.04 will support nvidia GPU and Auzentech audio cards ?
[00:53] <ejo> rww: thanks.  So, 3 24" monitors rotated 90 degrees (portrait orientation) in Xinerama.  Same monitors are ultra sharp when horizontal (landscape).  When vertical, pixels on two of the three are jumpy, almost as if it were an analog connection (but all three are digital, DVI).  I need priorities for trying to track down the problem.  The monitors?  The video cards (HD Radeons)?  The driver?...
[00:53] <ejo> ...(ATI proprietary fglrx, somewhat suspect)?  Gnome Display Manager?
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> chalcedony: nvidia gpu work great
[00:53] <chalcedony> i can't find it with google but maybe i'm not looking in the right place
[00:54] <rww> chalcedony: 11.04 (as the name implies) came out in April. If you mean 11.10, try #ubuntu+1 ;)
[00:54] <chalcedony> ActionParsnip, thanks i thought so
[00:54] <k1rk> I have an odd question...
[00:54] <EEMPHASISS> when I have an encrypted home dir, where is a samba share mounted?...it's not .gvfs where I expected it.
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> emmkai: you can use openssh-server to give an SFTP service
[00:54] <chalcedony> ActionParsnip, do we need drivers for it?
[00:54] <ejo> For the record, the two monitors which are pixel-wiggly when vertical under Xinerama are Samsungs and the one that is stable is a Dell.  All 24" widescreens.
[00:54] <emmkai> ok, ActionParsnip, what if i dont have access to the router of my remote network ?
[00:55] <k1rk> The last few times I've setup mdadm software raid, I've done it using the Ubuntu setup utility.  I need to make a new RAID.  I went into Disk Utility and Gparted to try to format the drives, but I can't find that "Use as RAID" type of format option that existed in the setup process.  How do I "format drives for RAID" without that setup process?  If this makes a difference, they're 3TB drives so I have to use GUID partition table.
[00:55] <k1rk> Are the "raid partitions" just empty partitions?
[00:55] <k1rk> What filesystem can I make them?
[00:56] <k1rk> Right now I have totally empty unprepared drives from manufacturer.
[00:56] <EEMPHASISS> .gvfs is empty? where are shares mounted when I have an encrypted home dir?
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> chalcedony: nouveau drivers are in a default install, there is teh ability to install proprietary drivers if you desire
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> emmkai: then you are stuck, your router is doing it's job and keeping unwanteds out
[00:57] <args[0]> is ubuntu (32|64?) good for 128MB RAM VPS?
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> emmkai: use TAB to complete nicks ;)
[00:57] <Ynodde> chalcedony:ubuntu will actually ask you right after a fresh install (nvidia/amd)
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> args[0]: 32bit will be fine
[00:57] <bluezone> args[0], should be okay
[00:57] <ejo> To clarify, what I mean by "pixels are jumpy when these monitors are in portrait orientation": everything is stable when no action is taken.  But every time I open a new window or follow a web page link or open a new browser tab (etc).  It's as if the display recalculates sub-pixel smoothing of text and fails to make a final decision.  Some characters render out a little bit "pinched".  And...
[00:57] <ejo> ...it's not repeatable, load the same page twice and text renders a little different.  Or scroll and then scroll back, and the problem is temporarily fixed.
[00:58] <args[0]> bluezone: ActionParsnip : I heard that 32 will consume a minimum of 80% of 128
[00:58] <unreal-dude> how stable should the 11.04 minimal CD install be?
[00:58] <emmkai> ActionParsnip: wait, does it make any difference whether the remote computer is connected via ethernet cable or wireless ?
[00:58] <args[0]> bluezone: ActionParsnip : 64 is worse for sure
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> unreal-dude: as stable as a full install
[00:58] <bluezone> args[0], where did you hear that
[00:58] <ejo> This display problem is one of those things, I'm afraid, where I would have some recourse on Windows, but on Linux the answer so far is "well, support for pretty much all of that is experimental, so cross your fingers."
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> emmkai: none, it is still behind the router
[00:59] <args[0]> bluezone: a friend, he actually has this..
[00:59] <emmkai> but, can i access my router through the ethernet cable ?
[00:59] <emmkai> to configure it ?
[00:59] <unreal-dude> i just installed with minimal 11.04, install finished fine, it rebooted, it showed ubuntus startup animation, then stopped on flashing cursor, htop shows that nothing is trying to run now
[00:59] <EEMPHASISS> >>>Samba<<< shares don't mount to >>>.gvfs<<< when I have an encrypted home dir... where is it mounted? ?
[01:00] <w30> Paddy_NI, ubuntu has a starupdisk creator that uses your iso. Have you got a wndows iso?
[01:00] <bluezone> args[0], this is your system ram or your video card ramn
[01:00] <args[0]> bluezone: system ram, no GUI for that VPS.. all on CLI
[01:00] <RenatoSilva> there is people saying non-LTSes are just betas, how about it
[01:00] <unreal-dude> o, i should add, this in virtual box with 32bit
[01:01] <g2bl33t> i want to move all my .pdf files to a dir called ebooks
[01:01] <g2bl33t> how do i do that with the terminal?
[01:01] <k1rk> mv *.pdf /home/user/ebooks
[01:01] <wslayer> gnome is looking like crap, it won't even alt-tab!
[01:01] <unreal-dude> mv /path/to/thefiles/*.pdf /path/to/ebooks/
[01:01] <k1rk> Or that. ^
[01:01] <g2bl33t> why didnt mv *.pdf  > ebooks work?
[01:01] <k1rk> I assumed you were already cd'ed into the folder with the pdfs. lol
[01:02] <EEMPHASISS> g2bl33t, try: find . -name \*.pdf -exec cp (or mv) {} ebooks \;
[01:02] <g2bl33t> yes lol
[01:02] <k1rk> > isn't part of the syntax for the command...
[01:02] <unreal-dude> > is not for outputing what you normally see, not moving files
[01:02] <ejo> because you don't mv x > y
[01:02] <wslayer> how do I reinstall gnome?
[01:02] <bluezone> args[0], well if its cli you really shouldn't have a problem, : Ubuntu Server (CLI) Installation  300 MHz x86 processor  128 MiB of system memory (RAM)
[01:02] <unreal-dude> *err, -n-o-t-
[01:02] <args[0]> can I run rsync on a server to call 2 different servers to sync each others? thanks
[01:02] <MXIIA> does anyone know what programs would be able to turn a USB piano input into midi?
[01:02] <bluezone> args[0], its right on the dot requirements, more ram is better but it should work fine
[01:03] <args[0]> bluezone: yeah it is working fine with him even with the min usage of 80% of 128MB RAM, thanks for your input.
[01:04] <wslayer> how do I reinstall gnome and gdm?
[01:04] <ejo> So no one knows about this problem with portrait-oriented monitors having subpixel text rendering problems (only in portrait orientation) --
[01:04] <ejo> Or even where I should look first
[01:05] <MXIIA> does anyone know what programs would be able to turn a USB piano input into midi?
[01:05] <ejo> I'm just hoping for a suggestion on whether to first pursue the video card, the monitors, the driver, GDM, or what.
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> MXIIA: timidity maybe..
[01:05] <MXIIA> hmm.
[01:05] <EEMPHASISS> Shares are not mounted to .gvfs when I have a shared drive.  anyone know where are they?
[01:05] <args[0]> can I run rsync on a server to call 2 different servers to sync each others? thanks
[01:05] <bluezone> ejo, is your video card any good?
[01:06] <ejo> It's a pair of HD Radeon 4870s, and everything is fine on the system if I use landscape orientation.
[01:06] <ejo> no crossfire, just 2 cards so I have enough DVI outputs for 3 monitors
[01:06] <bluezone> hmmm
[01:07] <EEMPHASISS> Shares are not mounted in .gvfs when I have an *encrypted* *home* *dir*.  anyone know where they are mounted?
[01:07] <ejo> So I know the system is fine with handling the resolution etc.  It feels more like someone might not have set up the monitors' internal product info to properly report the right frequencies when vertical... or something.
[01:07] <bluezone> ejo,  did you just install ubuntu now?
[01:07] <qin> args[0]: Assuming server have ssh: rsync -avz /source/ -e ssh user@box:/path/ --exclude=something
[01:07] <ejo> bluezone, a month ago
[01:08] <ejo> but just changed over to this monitor configuration
[01:08] <args[0]> qin: but both servers should be able to see each others.. ok
[01:08] <unreal-dude> meh, going back to straight debian, not wanting to deal with this
[01:08] <bluezone> lmao
[01:09] <Paddy_NI> w30: Are you sure that the Startup disk creator will work with a microsoft OS..
[01:09] <qin> args[0]: Make sure to not sync dot files between servers
[01:09] <ejo> unreal-dude, I've had some trouble with the latest VirtualBox crashing on my 11.04 host.  So far I've only tried Win7 32-bit as the guest OS.
[01:09] <bluezone> ejo, i can't say for sure, i heard that ati cards aren't well supported on lunux but that still shouldn't be the issue, i think it's a bug
[01:09] <args[0]> qin: ins't that a default?
[01:09] <bluezone> linux*
[01:10] <ejo> bluezone: thanks for your thoughts.  I just wish I knew if it was more likely to be a bug in... Xinerama... GDM... ATI's proprietary driver... or what
[01:10] <dinesh_> Hello friends i am using ubuntu 11.04...in the panel  clock, shutdown icon's  are all gone suddenly i dont know what i did.. can anybody help to bring it back
[01:10] <qin> args[0]: Well, running rsync from ~ or / is bad idea.
[01:10] <bluezone> ejo, did you try not using proprietary drivers?
[01:10] <args[0]> qin: i agree
[01:10] <ejo> I pretty much have to use ATI's driver if I want all 3 of these monitors standing vertically next to each other sharing a desktop.  But their proprietary "fglrx" driver is one they just sort of adapted from their FireGL cards and isn't particularly well supported
[01:11] <args[0]> qin: servers will be syncing raw files only
[01:11] <bluezone> nvm then
[01:11] <ejo> bluezone: It looks like on standard drivers (non-proprietary) I can only run a 2-monitor desktop max.
[01:11] <qin> args[0]: raw files?
[01:11] <ejo> I could switch to a tiling window manager like XMonad and that eliminates the multi-monitor-desktop issue, but that's another story.
[01:11] <args[0]> qin: image files
[01:12] <qin> args[0]: Any file.
[01:12] <ejo> I have this sinking feeling my issue is with ATI's driver and there's no recourse there other than beg them to update it.  But it would be awesome if I could just find out (for example) that I only need to tweak a pixel timer parameter in a config file somewhere!
[01:13] <args[0]> qin: i will be syncing raw image files only, and will not sync from ~ or /
[01:13] <bluezone> ejo, my best guess is gnome have you tried uhh, if i remember correctly i think it's metacity --replace or something? give me a min
[01:13] <EEMPHASISS> Where are samba shares mounted when I have an encrypted home dir? it's not under .gvfs where I expected.
[01:13] <ejo> bluezone: ooh okay, will gladly try any suggestion
[01:14] <bluezone> ejo, ah they changed it, terrible, DOES anyone know the code to reload gnome?
[01:14] <alex--> EEMPHASISS: #samba
[01:14] <OmegaForte> Window manager?
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> bluezone: didn't know you could reload gnome
[01:14] <EEMPHASISS> alex: thanks... trying there...
[01:14] <OmegaForte> bluezone The Window Manager you mean?
[01:15] <qin> args[0]: rsync have some regex, but better to control it by path, so /my/folder/with/images is better than *.jpg (or whatever)
[01:15] <alex--> EEMPHASISS: i already asked there
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> bluezone: do you mean compiz / metacity...the window manager
[01:15] <bazhang> bluezone, choose classic , if thats what you mean
[01:15] <bluezone> Omega, ActionParsnip  nvm found it http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reload-the-gnome-or-kde-panels-without-restarting/
[01:15] <ejo> bluezone: I think I see what you're getting at... that would be great if simply reloading the display manager or window manager (now that my monitor configuration is as i want it) would fix this.
[01:15] <bazhang> !classic | bluezone
[01:15] <alex--> !unity
[01:15] <alex--> !gnome
[01:15] <bluezone> no no thats omg i'm getting spammed jesus lol
[01:15] <ejo> bluezone: Incidentally I am using classic Gnome.  This configuration crashes Linux under Unity.
[01:15] <Nisstyre> yes
[01:16] <args[0]> qin: sure, another question.. can rsync send/write to file a log and state whether sync was successful or not? (with some statistical data)
[01:16] <ejo> I mean, "crashes Ubuntu"... eh
[01:16] <alex--> !nas
[01:16] <OmegaForte> args[0], I don't know about stats, but it should be able to...Lemme hit the man.
[01:16] <alex--> !server
[01:17] <alex--> Is there some light-weight server system?
[01:17] <bazhang> alex--, /msg ubottu
[01:17] <OmegaForte> args[0], Try --stats
[01:17] <bluezone> ejo, well every time i have wierd problems like this i usually reinstall or do this http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reload-the-gnome-or-kde-panels-without-restarting/
[01:17] <Ynodde> alex--:server is lightweight, mostly due to the fact there is no gui software
[01:17] <ejo> bluezone: Thanks, I'll give that a look.
[01:17] <args[0]> OmegaForte: its okay, you dont have to.. i will take a look at that later on, just thought someone got the answer aleady
[01:17] <alex--> Ynodde: ok :)
[01:18] <OmegaForte> args[0], I'm not doing anything, waiting on a finish to set.
[01:18] <args[0]> OmegaForte: :-)
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> bluezone: so how does one reload gnome exactly?
[01:18] <bluezone> ActionParsnip, i was talking more about the panels: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reload-the-gnome-or-kde-panels-without-restarting/
[01:18] <OmegaForte> args[0], Yeah, that may do what you want.
[01:19] <ejo> bluezone: Oh.  Well all that is is restarting the window manager without having to reboot.  Since reboots don't solve my problem, that won't either.  But thank you!
[01:19] <owen1> ActionParsnip: done with memory test. all is good. is it possible that this laptop just incapable of ubuntu?
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> bluezone: ahh I see, you  should have said panels
[01:19] <OmegaForte> owen1,  What's it doing?
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> owen1: not really they all can do it
[01:19] <args[0]> OmegaForte: rsync + cronjobs = awesomeness
[01:19] <bluezone> ActionParsnip, sorry haven't been on ubuntu in awhile :P i'm very forgetful
[01:19] <owen1> OmegaForte: the CD just run but never stop running. even when i chose 'try without install' or install.
[01:19] <OmegaForte> args[0], Totally. I use rsync to manage backing up of a game server
[01:20] <Ynodde> owen1:probably a badly burnt cd
[01:20] <OmegaForte> owen1, So, what do you mean...You boot the disc, and it goes to load the image, and what? Just hangs?
[01:20] <owen1> OmegaForte: the screen just show the menu. and the cd is doing something.
[01:20] <args[0]> OmegaForte: Can large corporations rely on rsync?
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> bluezone: its cool
[01:20] <owen1> Ynodde: this cd works with other laptop i have
[01:20] <Ynodde> owen1:is installing from usb not a option? is also faster then form cd
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> owen1: you could try the alternate ISO, it installs in text mode
[01:21] <OmegaForte> owen1, Well, if it's acting a ponce, try cleaning the drive out
[01:21] <qin> args[0]: Sure: Just > your rsync command to data file, like: rsync [all stuff here...] >  `date +%Y%m%d` , and you have your "log" file.
[01:21] <Ynodde> owen1:hmmm, dirty drive?
[01:21] <bobweaver_> join #kde
[01:21] <OmegaForte> args[0], We're not corperate size, It's just a minecraft server.
[01:21] <args[0]> qin: awesome,thanks
[01:21] <owen1> Ynodde: from some reason, i can't boot from usb
[01:21] <owen1> OmegaForte: Ynodde how to 'clean' the drive
[01:22] <OmegaForte> owen1, What's the laptop.
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> owen1: CD head cleaners
[01:22] <speedrunnerG55> can someoe help me?
[01:22] <Ynodde> owen1: a q-tip and some alcohol, go oldskool
[01:22] <Ynodde> ^^
[01:22] <OmegaForte> speedrunnerG55, What do you need?
[01:22] <owen1> OmegaForte: sharp pc-mp30
[01:22] <args[0]> OmegaForte: oh okay
[01:22] <owen1> OmegaForte: Ynodde it behave the same with it's built-in cd rom and the usb one I just bought.
[01:23] <Ynodde> owen1:maybe there is some bios bug for your laptop?, is there a bios update available?
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> owen1: tried a USB install?
[01:23] <Ynodde> owen1:i also missed what brand laptop it is
[01:23] <OmegaForte> owen1, Okay, well, If the disk works in another computer, it may not be able to load a kernel mode driver without derping. Might be a hardware conflict.
[01:24] <owen1> ActionParsnip: from some reason the laptop does not boot from usb. i checked in bios the option that say - usb boot, but still not working.
[01:24] <qin> args[0]: Whatever you do, read man rsync, it is very smart tool, and easy to use for complex tasks.
[01:24] <OmegaForte> owen1, It might be defective
[01:24] <owen1> OmegaForte: should i try debian
[01:25] <owen1> ?
[01:25] <OmegaForte> owen1, You are using debian.
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> owen1: try the alternate CD
[01:25] <OmegaForte> owen1, Just a different build.
[01:25] <owen1> ActionParsnip: isn't alternate CD similar to debian?
[01:25] <args[0]> qin: thanks, i've already used it for syncs over local network, this time i want to set a cron on a remote server to call 2 VPSs and sync b/w them, i will read man pages.
[01:25] <owen1> what about wubi?
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> owen1: it uses text mode installer and gives a desktop OS
[01:26] <OmegaForte> owen1, No notes for it. I'd say go for it. Don't be afraid to try new stuff.
[01:28] <owen1> ok
[01:28] <speedrunnerG55> OmegaForte, i need hekllp with my dual monitors
[01:28] <OmegaForte> speedrunnerG55, Okay. GPU?
[01:29] <speedrunnerG55> i connected an lcd  and a crt monitor to my pc, via a nvidia gforce 6200, the lcd with a dvi cable and the crt with a vga cabble, i  tried to configure it with nvidia x server. drivers that donloaded automatically.
[01:29] <OmegaForte> speedrunnerG55, Okay. Uh..That's some age right there homie, but you'd need to go into X server Display in the program, and configure them there.
[01:30] <speedrunnerG55> age?
[01:30] <OmegaForte> speedrunnerG55, That's an old gpu.
[01:30] <speedrunnerG55> i know
[01:31] <speedrunnerG55> i needed something for agp
[01:31] <OmegaForte> speedrunnerG55, Anyway, just start the nvidia X configuration application, go to X Server Config, and define the monitors.
[01:32] <speedrunnerG55> OmegaForte, how do i di that?
[01:32] <OmegaForte> speedrunnerG55, System, Administration, nvidia X server configuration.
[01:34] <speedrunnerG55> i got thatere. then what
[01:34] <speedrunnerG55> there^
[01:34] <speedrunnerG55> thern what
[01:35] <predatore> Partial Update broke my UI. So: I need to get some help on stripping all compiz/metacity/unity components and starting from scratch.
[01:35] <OmegaForte_> speedrunnerG55, Define the displays. Click the one that's not activated, click ACTIVATE, then set it up, move it, and save it.
[01:35] <predatore> Partial update also took away my GUI boot options, can't boot into classic ubuntu anymore =\
[01:36] <Jose> JoseP
[01:36] <mattalexx> During an "apt-get install" download, where are the files downloded to?
[01:36] <JoseP> quick question
[01:36] <OmegaForte_> predatore, Okay, startx, then log out, and see if you can change it there.
[01:36] <JoseP> how do you reinstall a program?
[01:36] <OmegaForte_> JoseP, If it's gone, just apt-get packagename again.
[01:37] <JoseP> it's not gone
[01:37] <OmegaForte_> JoseP, okay, apt-get purge packagename
[01:37] <predatore> Ok thanks omega :) I'll give that a try.
[01:37] <JoseP> Ok thanks
[01:37] <OmegaForte_> JoseP, Then just reinstall it.
[01:38] <JoseP> I'm trying to remove CUPS because it's been very problemaic but this what what I get
[01:38] <JoseP> problematic*
[01:38] <JoseP> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:38] <JoseP>  cups
[01:38] <JoseP> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:38] <FloodBot1> JoseP: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:38] <OmegaForte_> JoseP, Why are you trying to remove CUPS!?
[01:38] <JoseP> o lawd
[01:38] <JoseP> so I can reinstall it later
[01:38] <JoseP> and
[01:38] <JoseP> I don't need it right now
[01:38] <OmegaForte_> JoseP, Oh, well okay, sudo apt-get purge cups
[01:38] <bazhang> JoseP, easy on the enter key, please
[01:39] <JoseP> that was the output
[01:39] <adminewb> ubuntu stock kernels are a royal pain wrt cpu clock & core voltage control: powernow-k8 is not modularized, nor the intel counterpart if that's what your system runs on; is it possible anyway to just customize a fid/vid table without rolling a whole custom kernel config for the purpose? using http://linux-phc.org/ for some guidance
[01:39] <JoseP> I got it, bazhang
[01:39] <JoseP> OmegaForte_ yea that didn't quite work
[01:39] <OmegaForte_> adminewb, I don't know, but you might wanna go ask over on the arch forums. If anyone would know, they would.
[01:40] <OmegaForte_> JoseP, What's it returning?
[01:41] <JoseP> It's returning:
[01:41] <adminewb> OmegaForte_, #ubuntu-i386 what you mean?
[01:42] <JoseP> Errors were encountered while processing: cups E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:42] <OmegaForte_> adminewb, if anyone would know a shortcut to kernel changes, it'd be the guys at Arch.
[01:42] <JoseP> ^ That's the output OmegaForte_
[01:42] <adminewb> OmegaForte_ as in Arch linux distro?
[01:42] <lfender> i know  this is a ubuntu room but is there annnny window 7 cell phone users i need help plz asap
[01:42] <JoseP> adminweb it is
[01:43] <OmegaForte_> adminewb, Yeah. A hardcore mode distro. Those guys are absolute pro's.
[01:43] <adminewb> ok thanks much
[01:43] <Troy^> im having a problem with gnome 2 im not sure what it is but it almost becomes completely unresponsive to my clicks acts strange.. i dont know how to explain it
[01:43] <bazhang> lfender, connected to ubuntu support in some way?
[01:43] <JoseP> I'm having a problem with Ubuntu 11
[01:43] <OmegaForte_> JoseP, Can you install any dummy packages, or anything else?
[01:43] <JoseP> if I don't fix it I'll shoot it lol
[01:43] <magic1> Hello
[01:43] <lfender> not realy
[01:43] <JoseP> uhh what should I install?
[01:43] <JoseP> something simple?
[01:44] <bazhang> lfender, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:44] <OmegaForte_> JoseP, How about something tiny, like skype.
[01:44] <JoseP> ok let me try
[01:44] <magic1> is spamming allowed here?
[01:44] <bazhang> magic1, no
[01:44] <JoseP> sudo apt-get install skype
[01:44] <OmegaForte_> magic1, Why would spamming be allowed anywhere..
[01:44] <JoseP> oops
[01:44] <magic1> lol
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: nano is smaller ;) and open source too :)
[01:45] <JoseP> nano is a text editor, right?
[01:45] <JoseP> I use it
[01:45] <rww> JoseP: yes
[01:45] <JoseP> yea I use it
[01:45] <magic1> does someone here look like enrique?
[01:45] <OmegaForte_> I prefer Vi.
[01:45] <JoseP> especially over SSH
[01:45] <JoseP> I heard there's also Pico
[01:45] <bazhang> magic1, stop please
[01:45] <magic1> stop what? D:
[01:45] <OmegaForte_> Pico's good...I'll stick to vi though.
[01:45] <rww> JoseP: nano is a Free Software clone of pico.
[01:46] <JoseP> I should try vi sometime
[01:46] <spid3rnet> hi i need a help i have install xterm window and i was writing a script using it but when i try to run tow xterm window at the same terminal the second 1 dont open so any help
[01:46] <bazhang> magic1, the nonsense chit chat
[01:46] <magic1> =(
[01:46] <magic1> ok
[01:46] <bazhang> !ot > magic1
[01:46] <magic1> ok i'm sorry
[01:46] <Starcraftmazter> is it possible to choose gnome when installing ubuntu 11.04?
[01:47] <Starcraftmazter> or well the default gnome shell
[01:47] <bazhang> Starcraftmazter, yes, choose classic
[01:47] <JoseP> ok OmegaForte_ this is interesting
[01:47] <OmegaForte_> JoseP, Just go to pastebin.com and give me a link.
[01:47] <Starcraftmazter> okies
[01:47] <JoseP> ok
[01:47] <bazhang> !classic | Starcraftmazter
[01:47] <spid3rnet> any help
[01:47] <OmegaForte_> spid3rnet, Do you need help?
[01:47] <spid3rnet> yaaaaaa
[01:48] <adzy> can anyone help me, when ever i leave my computer for about 1 hr and come back its just a black screen, with the caps lock key flashing and another light flashing
[01:48] <OmegaForte_> spid3rnet,  Okay, what's your problem?
[01:48] <OmegaForte> 'bout time.
[01:48] <spid3rnet> i have download the xterm window but i cant run xterm window at the same terminal
[01:48] <spid3rnet> tow xterm window at the same terminal
[01:48] <spid3rnet> *
[01:49] <JoseP> OmegaForte: http://pastebin.com/eQ7UdeXS
[01:49] <OmegaForte> spid3rnet, Okay, so you're using...What? Hang on a tick. I got you, I'mma try something to see if I can repeat it.
[01:49] <Troy^> would there be a reason im not able to get full bandwidth could it be a driver issue?
[01:50] <spid3rnet> so you can help me
[01:50] <JoseP> it gets stuck at those two last lines and that doesn't change for hours
[01:50] <OmegaForte> spid3rnet, I'm gonna try to replicate your issues.
[01:50] <spid3rnet> ok thanks
[01:50] <OmegaForte> JoseP,  Looks like you broke something. I can't tell what though.
[01:51] <JoseP> these problems started when I first installed cups
[01:51] <OmegaForte> spid3rnet, Uh, why are you using xterm instead of the default gnome terminal...
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: what is the output of:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade
[01:52] <spid3rnet> i need it on a script its like little pop up of /bin/bash so its look good for my script
[01:53] <OmegaForte> spid3rnet, What...? I don't even, what is this? Why don't you just use byobu? I think that's what you're going for...?
[01:53] <OmegaForte> spid3rnet, Are you trying to achieve a multiplexed terminal session?
[01:54] <spid3rnet> ya i now but xterm like i say its g00d for my scripts ok
[01:55] <FZombie> network-manager in gnome is flawed badly and lacks good features =(
[01:55] <spid3rnet> let be on the point what xterm does he help to run excute commad
[01:55] <spid3rnet> in a little /bin/bash window
[01:56] <FZombie> any better network manager for VPN? Like one that lets me select VPN only for giving applications access to the internet
[01:57] <seanmc98> dos anyone want to help me install heimdall on ubuntu 11.04 on 32 bit pc
[01:57] <tolpan> seanmc98 with wine?
[01:58] <spid3rnet> so any 1
[01:58] <spid3rnet> for help
[01:58] <seanmc98> no clue im a nooba dn installed ubuntu alongside windows with wubi
[01:59] <Ninjagamer> Hello.
[01:59] <tolpan> seanmc98 so....there is no problem.  I gues...
[02:00] <g2bl33t> Well, I made a script that opens up a new python document but I want it to open in python and not the text editor
[02:00] <owen1> i use alternate cd (rescue mode) to install ubuntu. here is the error i get: 'An error occured while mounting the device you entered for your root file system(/dev/sda1) on /target. please check the syslog for more information' any clues?
[02:00] <seanmc98> tolpan: what do you mean no problem. i dont have heimdall installed thats a problem
[02:01] <Ninjagamer> I've been having an issue in which I open a Libreoffice text document and it opens in another workspace. Anyone know how to stop this from happening? I want it to open in the same workspace that I am in.
[02:01] <tolpan> seanmc98: Do you have install wine? This is the first step! ;)
[02:02] <tolpan> seanmc98: sudo apt-get install wine
[02:04] <tolpan> seanmc98: Or, you can use synaptic.....
[02:05] <seanmc98> whats that
[02:06] <tolpan> seanmc98: http://www.nongnu.org/synaptic/
[02:06] <yanick_> hi, I have an .avi and a .srt file that I try to view in Totem; the .srt seems to get loaded as I see that "Subutitle #1" is loaded, but there are no subtitles shown during playback. I can't seem to find anyone else on Google with this problem, or some other issue regarding .srt not get loaded at all (was resolved), but this is not my case. Anyone would know the problem of this?
[02:06] <yanick_> or rather a solution to this?
[02:07] <owen1> i use alternate cd (rescue mode) to install ubuntu. here is the error i get: 'An error occured while mounting the device you entered for your root file system(/dev/sda1) on /target. please check the syslog for more information'.  is my laptop's harddrive is damaged?
[02:08] <OmegaForte> owen1, It might not be able to load the controller driver...
[02:08] <owen1> OmegaForte: ok. any suggestions?
[02:08] <nsadmin> I don't help here, but I'll just point out the message asked you to check the syslog
[02:09] <owen1> nsadmin: how do i do that?
[02:09] <OmegaForte> owen1, He's right.
[02:09] <adminewb> if one's using the same logins on different distros sharing /home file system, it seems too easy to run into config conflicts; is there a common answer to this difficulty?
[02:09] <bazhang> yanick_, try mplayer? put them in the same folder? have the same name for both?
[02:09] <yanick_> hmm... I just tried opening the .srt file and overwriting it (saving as utf-8). it works now... weird, gedit could open the file just fine
[02:09] <nsadmin> again, I don't help here
[02:09] <owen1> OmegaForte: where is the syslog? how do i get into terminal?
[02:10] <JoseP> sorry ActionParsnip I stepped away
[02:10] <OmegaForte> owen1,  Uh, the last time I used a boot terminal was 1998. Uh...It'll be in /dev/ramfs I think?
[02:10] <JoseP> let me get you that output asap
[02:10] <yanick_> bazhang, thanks. I don't install mplayer because it usually doesn't work for me... I don't know why... perhaps it doesn't like my video card (O_o)
[02:10] <owen1> OmegaForte: but how do i launch a terminal?
[02:11] <nsadmin> I got ubuntu installed, I told it to forget about the boot loader... still running debian, I'll see if I can get it booted
[02:11] <bazhang> yanick_, I'd try it in future, more support and better features, plays everything
[02:11] <OmegaForte> owen1, If you're using a gui mode, try CTRL-ALT-T, that may work. But I'd try running it in terminal mode.
[02:12] <yanick_> bazhang, I usually never have any problem with Totem..... besides, the problem was really (and most probably) caused by the .srt file saved as cp1251.....
[02:13] <raginkestrel> Does anyone know how to adjust the screen brightness in Xfce?
[02:14] <owen1> OmegaForte: it's textmode. ct+alt+t didn't do anything
[02:14] <OmegaForte> owen1, Then you're in terminal.
[02:15] <owen1> OmegaForte: but i see the install menua
[02:15] <owen1> menu
[02:15] <nit-wit> raginkestrel, usually the fn - arrow keys
[02:15] <JoseP> ActionParsnip, you still here?
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: sup
[02:16] <JoseP> ok I got that output for you
[02:16] <JoseP> I'm preparing a pastebin
[02:16] <OmegaForte> owen1, Well, I'm not familar with the new textmode installs. Like I said, last time I used a boot terminal was 1998.
[02:16] <raginkestrel> nit-wit, doesn't seem to work.
[02:16] <tomgeorge> are there any good MUD clients for GNOME?
[02:17] <nit-wit> raginkestrel, mine don't work on my external monitor with a netbook, but s=do with the netbook scree.
[02:17] <owen1> OmegaForte: np. thanks
[02:17] <tomgeorge> any good MUD clients for GNOME?
[02:17] <owen1> how to access the terminal in alternate install?
[02:17] <JoseP> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/Suppxqeb
[02:18] <vigilant> how can compiz be turned off? In xchat specially, when I drag a channel it shows this preview of the whole channel list, how can I Disable compiz plugins? I don't want them
[02:18] <raginkestrel> nit-wit, is there a settings application that can adjust the brightness?
[02:18] <OmegaForte> JoseP, sudo apt-get purge cups doesn't work, right?
[02:18] <nit-wit> vigilant, metacity --replace will kill it .
[02:18] <JoseP> OmegaForte let me try it again
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: sudo apt-get --reinstall install cups
[02:19] <nit-wit> vigilant, it you want compiz back compiz --replace
[02:19] <tolpan> seanmc98: Do you have install wine? Like i said?
[02:19] <nit-wit> *if
[02:19] <seanmc98> no
[02:19] <seanmc98> it wont finish
[02:20] <JoseP> OmegaForte it seems that what ActionParsnip told me to do is working
[02:20] <Ninjagamer> does anyone know how to fix the issue where opening a libreoffice doc opens up in another workspace? not the one you're in.
[02:20] <vigilant> nit-wit: When I did, metacity --replace, it wouldn't kill it, rather it would hang my screen, I had to ctrl + C out of it
[02:20] <JoseP> ...I take that back
[02:20] <vigilant> nit-wit: do I have to wait for it to kill it for sometime?
[02:20] <tolpan> I can't get the problem! Do you have any error massage?
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: failing that then jump into /var/cache/apt/archives and force install the cups deb
[02:20] <nit-wit> vigilant, hmm well thats about my only suggestion.
[02:20] <JoseP> ok ActionParsnip... What's the command for that?
[02:20] <vigilant> okies
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: sudo dpkg --force-all -i filename
[02:21] <Cerrdor> Anyone know how to get the guestaddons iso on my desktop in Ubuntu?
[02:21] <AgentGREEN> cer - using virtualbox
[02:22] <AgentGREEN> ?
[02:22] <nit-wit> Cerrdor, the addons for virtual box are run in the guest, which version are yoiu running.
[02:23] <JoseP> ActionParsnip: I'm assuming filename is cups
[02:23] <nit-wit> Cerrdor, is ubuntu the guest>
[02:23] <Cerrdor> yes
[02:24] <JoseP> k
[02:24] <nit-wit> Cerrdor, in the top panel is the guest additions just clck to mount then run the linux set.
[02:25] <JoseP> ok ActionParsnip
[02:25] <JoseP> another problem
[02:26] <JoseP> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/1228gBUn
[02:26] <ghostnik11> can anyone tell me what this means in grub language: set root='(/dev/sda,msdos1)'
[02:27] <OmegaForte> Wow. I was going to help him....
[02:27] <OmegaForte> But he just /part'd
[02:27] <nit-wit> Cerrdor, here is a link that can help you find them if needed. http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/virtualbox-guest-addons.html  a little older but the basic info is there.
[02:27] <Cerrdor> I have clicked the mount three times
[02:27] <Cerrdor> it doesnt mount
[02:28] <ghostnik11> can anyone tell me what this means in grub language: set root='(/dev/sda,msdos1)'
[02:28] <seclm193> I don't know why, but this is the fourth installation of Ubuntu and it all of a sudden just freezes at the login screen.
[02:28] <OmegaForte> ghostnik11, Grub language huh? I didn't know grub was it's own language. Anyway, that means the root folder is defined as that drive's partition, and that's the type.
[02:29] <JoseP> tbh with you guys, I'm not happy with Natty
[02:29] <OmegaForte> JoseP, It actually sounds like your install is damaged.
[02:29] <zakkaufman> Natty is fine, it's just headed in a new direction. Unlike any other distro out there.
[02:29] <JoseP> well it was an upgrade from ubuntu 10, and ever since I've been having problems
[02:29] <ghostnik11> okay so that would mean root folder is at hd(0,0) or hd(0,1)
[02:30] <seclm193> Anyone familiar with the amd C-50?
[02:30] <JoseP> I can't really afford to downgrade though, OmegaForte
[02:30] <zakkaufman> Upgrades are always riskier than fresh installations.
[02:30] <ghostnik11> OmegaForte: Okay so that would mean root folder is at hd(0,0) or hd(0,1)
[02:30] <OmegaForte> ghostnik11, set root='(/dev/sda,msdos) SDA is the first drive in the list.
[02:31] <JoseP> indeed they are
[02:31] <seclm193> I give up on ubuntu.  anyone know of what has the best driver support?
[02:32] <OmegaForte> seclm193, Why are you giving up?
[02:32] <bluezone> seclm193, best driver support? windows, if your a gamer you might as well use it
[02:32] <ghostnik11> OmegaForte: msdos? thats the part i don't get like I know its suppose to be like /dev/sda1
[02:32] <zakkaufman> Try Fedora for more bleeding-edge stuff.
[02:32] <bluezone> if ever you want to try it again you can use it with virtual box or vmware
[02:32] <zakkaufman> Ubuntu is the easiest, though.
[02:32] <nit-wit> ghostnik11, where did you get that set?
[02:32] <owen1> i use alternate cd (rescue mode) to install ubuntu. here is the error i get: 'An error occured while mounting the device you entered for your root file system(/dev/sda1) on /target. please check the syslog for more information'.  here is the last part of my syslog: http://pastebin.com/iAqPQRjG
[02:33] <Guest72042> does vmware come with blackbuntu?
[02:33] <OmegaForte> ghostnik11, Well, it's documented in a man somewhere. Might want to start there. I'd assume sda1 is 0 0, since it's the first partion.
[02:33] <owen1> i see: FATAL: Module ext2 not found.
[02:33] <bluezone> Guest14087, not sure what that is but probably not, itsall the iso and use it for the installation with vmware
[02:33] <owen1> and umount: can't umount /target: Invalid argument
[02:34] <ghostnik11> nit-wit: from grub.cfg, i have been trying to get back into my ubuntu partition for couple of days now as i installed a fedora 15 along side but it took over mbr and is using grub 1, Omegaforte
[02:34] <bluezone> someone actually called their os blackbuntu lol?
[02:34] <JoseP> yea I'm looking at it
[02:34] <nit-wit> ghostnik11, you still have a OS with grub2
[02:34] <Coder7> Guest72042: vmware has pretty strict licensing - usually it can't be distributed
[02:34] <JoseP> "Penetration Testing Distribution"
[02:34] <ghostnik11> Omegaforte: okay so its hd(0,0)
[02:34] <JoseP> I'm not going to try Fedora any time soon
[02:34] <OmegaForte> ghostnik11, I don't see why it wouldn't be.
[02:35] <Coder7> Guest72042: vmware wants folks to register and get it from them directly
[02:35] <JoseP> a friend of mine screwed up his entire killer setup because of that
[02:35] <bluezone> Coder7, he can use virtual box thought
[02:35] <ghostnik11> nit-wit: well yeah my ubuntu 11.04 is grub2 by default and my fedora is grub 1, but the problem is my grub one doesn't see ubuntu
[02:35] <Coder7> bluezone: yes, he can use vmware too, but neither come pre-installed
[02:35] <Guest72042> that was my next question
[02:36] <nit-wit> ghostnik11, make it easy boot a Natty cd and follow this link to put grub2 in the mbr with natty in control.  set root='(/dev/sda,msdos1)'
[02:36] <Coder7> I know both virtual box and vmware work fine within ubuntu
[02:36] <nit-wit> ghostnik11, sorry this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy%20LiveCD%20Files
[02:36] <JoseP> they do coder7
[02:37] <Guest72042> I already duel boot natty and windows, can I combined bbuntu with natty?
[02:37] <Coder7> JoseP: thanks for your agreement...
[02:37] <ghostnik11> nit-wit: thanks will do, and so that way ubuntu's grub will take over and see both operating systems?
[02:37] <Coder7> Guest72042: combine?
[02:38] <nit-wit> ghostnik11, it will if you haven't stuck grub legacy in natty while messing around, which is a easy fix.
[02:38] <JoseP> OmegaForte
[02:38] <Guest72042> so I have all the tools of blackbuntu in Ubuntu
[02:38] <JoseP> I'm force removing it
[02:38] <JoseP> it might work
[02:38] <witeshark> has anyone had incomplete updates from chromium?
[02:39] <agnesia1981> ada ang bisa ngajarri saya install nmap di ubuntu gak ya?saya coba pki command"sudo apt-get install nmap "kok gagal terus yah
[02:39] <ghostnik11> nit-wit: lets say grub legacy is stuck into natty will i be able to fix that?
[02:39] <OmegaForte> JoseP, Yeah, that'd work. Or just run a backup, and do a full install.
[02:39] <Coder7> Guest72042: sometimes you can add the repos for a seperate distribution and then add the packages
[02:39] <bazhang> !id | agnesia1981
[02:39] <ghostnik11> nit-wit: or a no go? for that one and i am royally screwed
[02:40] <JoseP> OmegaForte
[02:40] <Zeratul2k> Hi everyone!
[02:40] <Guest72042> repos? must I go through and add each tool?
[02:40] <nit-wit> ghostnik11, yes you will chroot in to natty and purge grub grub-pc grub-common the reinstall the last two.
[02:40] <JoseP> can I downgrade back to 10.10 doing a backup?
[02:40] <nit-wit> *then
[02:40] <bazhang> JoseP, no
[02:40] <OmegaForte> JoseP, there's your answer, faster than I could reply.
[02:40] <bazhang> JoseP, full reinstall
[02:40] <JoseP> damn
[02:40] <JoseP> I mean backup, full reinstall and what not
[02:40] <wslayer> KDE is not logging to my user
[02:41] <nit-wit> ghostnik11, that link the third option at the default is the chroot method.
[02:41] <JoseP> then load the files again
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: the file isn't called 'cups'   press TAB after you type cups and it will autocomplete
[02:41] <JoseP> would that work at all?
[02:41] <bazhang> wslayer, logging what
[02:41] <Coder7> Guest72042: hold on a second
[02:41] <JoseP> Okk thanks ActionParsnip
[02:41] <witeshark> i am thinking of going to 11.04, but i suppose i can't while update manager still has incomplete updates for GNOME and for chromium - is that right?
[02:41] <Zeratul2k> I have a little problem here, trying to solve it. There's this .jar file I need to run on different computers (on windows and ubuntu) that reads a file that's sitting on the same folder. The problem is, when i double click it in Ubuntu, the working directory seems to be the user's home directory, so the jar can't find the file and dies
[02:41] <bazhang> Zeratul2k, minecraft?
[02:42] <ghostnik11> nit-wit: okay thanks right now looking over steps for reinstalling and fixing grub2 with boot-repair, will do the third option as you say if i have put legacy grub on natty
[02:42] <Zeratul2k> any way i can specify the working directory WITHOUT having my user have to go into the command line?
[02:42] <Zeratul2k> nope, it's a password keeping app of sorts, with some xml files and other things
[02:42] <nit-wit> ghostnik11, if you just transfer the file using the link default be sure to use a natty cd, the chroot can be used with any ubuntu basically.
[02:42] <kingspider> hey any programmers out there delt with Boost and cmake
[02:43] <ghostnik11> nit-wit: looking for my natty cd right now
[02:43] <JoseP> ActionParsnip: these are the files I get when I press tab http://pastebin.com/yQfiCRQG
[02:43] <seclm193> OmegaForte, about to give up on linux on the laptop
[02:43] <JoseP> which one should I do?
[02:43] <OmegaForte> seclm193, Why? ATI integrated?
[02:43] <JoseP> seclm193: driver issue?
[02:43] <seclm193> not sure
[02:43] <wslayer> bazhang: i type my user and password and press enter but it doesn`t log
[02:43] <nit-wit> ghostnik11, sounds like you understand lots of people on the channel know this and help
[02:43] <kingspider> anyone for help with cmake and boost
[02:43] <OmegaForte> seclm193, Then why are you giving up
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: sudo dpkg --force-all -i cups_1.4.6-5ubuntu1.3_i386.deb; sudo apt-get -f install
[02:44] <JoseP> thanks
[02:44] <Coder7> Guest72042: you shouldn't have to add everything individually. If you know the repositories and there is a high-level dependency package, you can install that package and everything else will follow
[02:44] <kingspider> i cant get cmake to link or detect BOOST
[02:44] <seclm193> JoseP, after my fourth install.  the system will run great for a few days, then start freezing at login
[02:44] <Coder7> Guest72042: for example, there is an ubuntu-studio package that installs all of the video/audio editing stuff
[02:44] <seclm193> OmegaForte, after my fourth install.  the system will run great for a few days, then start freezing at login
[02:44] <JoseP> seclm193 what laptop are you using?
[02:45] <OmegaForte> seclm193, Okay, are you messing with root at all?
[02:45] <seclm193> JoseP, Acer Aspire 5250
[02:45] <JoseP> hmm
[02:45] <nit-wit> ghostnik11, have you ever used the bootscript?
[02:45] <JoseP> I'm not sure
[02:45] <seclm193> omegaforte, nope
[02:45] <ghostnik11> nit-wit: if you say so, but only understand b/c i have been reading on spear for like 4 to 5 days on ubuntu and fedora forums looking for way to solve dilemma
[02:45] <seclm193> omegaforte, just installed virtualbox
[02:45] <JoseP> I have an HP Pavilion and it has all of the imaginable driver issues ever
[02:45] <Zeratul2k> any idea on how to make it so that a jar's working directory is where it sits, instead of the home directory? Need to run it from a USB from different computers, so copying it to home directory is not an option. User is linux-illiterate so running it from command line is no option either.
[02:45] <ghostnik11> nit-wit: no i have never used bootscript?
[02:46] <OmegaForte> seclm193, So, what are you doing during that time between it working and it not?
[02:46] <kingspider> anyone use cmake and boost
[02:46] <Guest72042> ah, I see, what are repositories?
[02:46] <wslayer> how do I create a new user on the command line?
[02:46] <xangua> !anyone | wslayer
[02:46] <bazhang> !repo > Guest72042
[02:46] <seclm193> omegaforte, just working on a project in windows in virtualbox mainly.  haven't had any time to do much more
[02:47] <nit-wit> ghostnik11, if you want to run it and pastebin it I can tell you if you will need to chroot. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[02:47] <OmegaForte> seclm193, Why aren't you using the in-built virtualbox-ose?
[02:47] <wslayer> xangua: what? I asked a real question.
[02:47] <seclm193> josep: my processor is an amd c-50 and graphics is a radeon 6250
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: is it working through now?
[02:47] <JoseP> yea IDK
[02:47] <JoseP> ActionParsnip... Nope :(
[02:47] <Guest72042> I see, that's great thank you
[02:47] <seclm193> omegaforte: i did.  used the ubuntu software to install
[02:47] <xangua> wslayer: was for kingspider sorry eeeee;)e
[02:47] <Zeratul2k> so nobody knows how to set the working directory for a .jar?
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: what does the apt-get -f install     output?
[02:47] <OmegaForte> seclm193, Well, there's one problem, ATI.
[02:47] <JoseP> it gets stuck on the preparing to replace cups 1.4.4
[02:48] <nit-wit> ghostnik11, the script generates a text file pastebin the whole thing if you want to.
[02:48] <seclm193> omegaforte, well... kinda can't change that
[02:48] <wslayer> so how do I create a new user?
[02:48] <JoseP> ok so I hit ctrl + c and this is what I've gotten so far
[02:48] <ghostnik11> nit-wit: okay downloading it now
[02:48] <OmegaForte> seclm193, The ATI drivers are notorious for being wonky. Try booting in safe graphics mode.
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: you will need to use the force install til you get the packages square. This is one of the massive weaknesses of package based systems
[02:48] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto wslayer
[02:48] <seclm193> omegaforte,  didn't install any ati drivers the last go around
[02:49] <seclm193> omegaforte, one thing i can do is login in failsafex
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: I'd also advise you run:   sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get upgrade   so that the packages are redownloaded and don't mix with the old versions
[02:49] <JoseP> ok
[02:49] <OmegaForte> seclm193, well then it looks like the xorg config is referencing a bad driver, or is just generally bork'd. Rebuild the xconf and try then.
[02:49] <JoseP> ActionParsnip the Upgrade is freeing disk space
[02:50] <JoseP> I'll try the apt-get -f install after this is done
[02:50] <seclm193> omegaforte, i'm kinda still in the newbie stage.  how would i go about rebuiding the xconf?
[02:51] <OmegaForte> seclm193, You'd boot recovery, failsafe graphic mode, and look for an option that says "x config" in it, and choose "build new xorg config" or something similar. I havent' done it in awhile, so I lack the specifics.
[02:52] <seclm193> omegaforte, i did that and no go on the reboot.
[02:52] <seclm193> omegaforte, is there a way to remove the graphic driver and make sure the opensource is loaded/
[02:52] <Zeratul2k> is the working directory problem OpenJDK specific or does the Oracle version have that problem as well?
[02:52] <OmegaForte> seclm193, Well, I don't know anything else to try. Other than failsafe, jockey, remove the driver, and install the open driver..
[02:53] <seclm193> omegaforte, jockey/
[02:53] <seclm193> ?
[02:53] <OmegaForte> seclm193, That's how you install and remove licensed drivers, jockey.
[02:53] <nit-wit> Cerrdor, hows it going?
[02:54] <seclm193> omegaforte, is it installed by default.  i'm not sure how to install the opensource driver
[02:54] <ghostnik11> nit-wit: here's paste bin, your going to probably say what i have been attempting when u see the results in the paste bin http://paste.ubuntu.com/655445/
[02:54] <Cerrdor> got it
[02:54] <Cerrdor> it actually mounted under the system folder not the desktop
[02:54] <Cerrdor> so I felt tarted
[02:55] <OmegaForte> seclm193, Okay, jockey is installed by default, as it's a system dependant. and you'll have to FIND the drivers and install them. I can't help you that far.
[02:58] <Zeratul2k> well, guess i'll advice my user to go back to windows or something, then...
[02:59] <Zeratul2k> while i find how to set that working directory
[02:59] <seclm193> omegaforte, going to try something.  i'll brb
[02:59] <bonhoffer> if i ssh into my ubuntu server, can i scp back to the host?
[03:00] <witeshark> is anyone familiar with chromium browser and language packages not updating rightly (and some GNOME languages as well)?
[03:00] <czervik_> Hi, just installed 11.04 on a new gateway sx2803. It has the Intel G43 Express chipset. The screen resolution is off, I can't see the left or bottom of the screen. I have it connected to a samsung dlp via HDMI. There are only 3 settings when I run the monitor app and they are all off. Can someone point me in the right direction? I don't have a xorg.conf file
[03:00] <bonhoffer> i am with a shared isp -- i always push out (scp out)
[03:00] <bonhoffer> i have no idea what my local ip is and don't think my firewall will let me scp a file backwards
[03:00] <bonhoffer> but i remember with ftp that i could push back to the host shell
[03:00] <nit-wit> ghostnik11, you have it in natty but I think your okay to just try the default on that link, to just load from the cd, you haven't gotten in and run a grub update to infect the grub2 files the grub-legacy is just sitting ther a sfiles as of now. Worse case scenario, you will chroot in and run sudo apt-get purge grub grub-pc grub-common; and  then run sudo apt-get install grub-pc grub-common, when asked where grub goes to it will be sda ise the spac
[03:00] <nit-wit> e key to mark it and don't worry about the ask for adding more to the kernel just leave as is.
[03:01] <bonhoffer> otherwise -- i could try to put the file in a public location and download via http
[03:01] <Coder7> bonhoffer: you can use rsync
[03:01] <bonhoffer> Coder7: why rsync, but not scp?
[03:01] <bonhoffer> it seems rsync uses ssh right?
[03:01] <Coder7> bonhoffer: you probably could scp, I'm just more familiar with rsync
[03:02] <nit-wit> ghostnik11, I'm going out for dinner in a half hour so others can help if needed if I'm not here.
[03:02] <Coder7> bonhoffer: rsync <user>@<host>:/path/to/file ./
[03:02] <Coder7> bonhoffer: that will copy your remote file back to the current directory locally
[03:02] <bonhoffer> got it -- i just have a file on my web-server and i am on a laptop behind a firewall, that is the problem -- there is no user@host . . .
[03:02] <Coder7> bonhoffer: how do you ssh into the remote host now?
[03:02] <ghostnik11> nit-wit: cool, u enjoy your dinner and have a good night, i will get everything working again thanks to your instructions
[03:03] <bonhoffer> Coder7: oh -- i get it -- sorry, my bad -- i just log out of the web server . . .
[03:03] <bonhoffer> stupdity . . . sorry
[03:04] <bajah> hey guys need some help with crossover
[03:04] <nit-wit> ghostnik11, no problem you can hardly mess up grub since it can be purged and reloaded.
[03:04] <nit-wit> *grub2
[03:04] <bazhang> bajah, try a crossover channel
[03:04] <rift345> @find wicked
[03:04] <rift345> @find pink
[03:04] <JoseP> yo ActionParsnip
[03:04] <JoseP> I think that worked
[03:04] <bazhang> rift345, not that kind of network
[03:04] <bajah> @do u know of any bazhang
[03:04] <seclm193> omegaforte, just rebooted into failsafe.  opened jockey and i have not activated the proprietary drivers
[03:05] <bazhang> !alis | bajah
[03:05] <seclm193> omegaforte, should i activate
[03:05] <bajah> thanks alot
[03:06] <seclm193> how do you check to see which graphic driver you are using/
[03:07] <bazhang> seclm193, lspci in terminal
[03:07] <bazhang> whoops
[03:07] <bazhang> seclm193, scratch that
[03:07] <JoseP> ActionParsnip, you here?
[03:07] <bazhang> seclm193, try jockey-gtk
[03:07] <rww> seclm193: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log, look for lines that start with e.g. "[    16.585] (II) RADEON(0):" (I'm using radeon)
[03:08] <JoseP> OmegaForte
[03:08] <JoseP> I was able to install and uninstall skype
[03:10] <seclm193> rww, you have radeon.  let me ask you a question.  my problem: after a few days, my computer freezes at login, but i can still boot into failsafex
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: sup
[03:11] <seclm193> rww, it seems to have something to do with the xorg config file.  do i need to use the drivers that came with ubuntu? or activate the proprietary driver
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: all square?
[03:11] <rww> seclm193: Unity + my ATI card + radeon = a mess. I use KDE instead and everything's fine.
[03:11] <JoseP> I think so
[03:11] <JoseP> what should I try next?
[03:11] <JoseP> I really need to fix the GUI on this thing
[03:11] <rww> I didn't try Unity + fglrx, because fglrx annoys me.
[03:11] <seclm193> rww, i tried kde on this machine and it seems a little laggy
[03:15] <seclm193> rww, found it.  it seems that i'm missing an xorg.conf file, but i do have a xorg.conf.failsafe file
[03:15] <JoseP> ActionParsnip should I try to remove CUPS?
[03:15] <nsadmin> what's the address part for a ubuntu package mirror
[03:15] <share> hi
[03:16] <share> do I need gvfsd-http ?
[03:16] <nsadmin> right now I'm using file:/mnt
[03:16] <share> it's making connections to Canonical servers in UK
[03:17] <rww> nsadmin: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[03:17] <nsadmin> perfect
[03:17] <share> barbadine.canonical.com
[03:17] <share> that.
[03:17] <nsadmin> thanks, I'll edit it now
[03:18] <seclm193> how do i configure Xorg
[03:18] <wslayer> quit
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: could do, don't think it will remove
[03:29] <kingspider> anyone devs use BOOST
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> kingspider: try in the channel for the language you are using
[03:31] <JoseP> YES
[03:31] <JoseP> I saved the server
[03:32] <JoseP> I got the GUI to work by going in safe mode
[03:32] <JoseP> actually
[03:32] <JoseP> ActionParsnip and OmegaForte saved my server lol
[03:32] <ed-always-jan> hi
[03:33] <JoseP> Thanks OmegaForte and ActionParsnip
[03:33] <JoseP> you saved my server
[03:33] <JoseP> I would've had to go through the painful task of reinstalling
[03:35] <speedrunnerG55> it still dosent work
[03:35]  * speedrunnerG55 cries
[03:36]  * st47 wonders what it is that doesn't work, and what you hope crying will do to fix it
[03:36] <JoseP> st47
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: packages all sq1uare now?
[03:36] <JoseP> sometimes staring at it long enough help
[03:36] <JoseP> ActionParsnip, how could I confirm that?
[03:36] <st47> lol
[03:37] <JoseP> As far as I've gone, it works fine
[03:37] <speedrunnerG55> my dual monitors
[03:37] <speedrunnerG55> they dont work properly
[03:37]  * speedrunnerG55 sniffs
[03:37] <JoseP> even the GUI in recovery mode, but it works the way I want it to work
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: sudo apt-get -f install     should say 0 packages
[03:37] <JoseP> now I'm in good terms with 11 I guess
[03:37] <JoseP> ok let me try that
[03:39] <Senix> I'm trying to use Mumble for Ubuntu 10.10, but adding a new server and trying to connect to it makes it crash.
[03:39] <Senix> Does anyone, anyone at all, know a fix to this?
[03:39] <JoseP> O lord I haven't dealt with Mumble in a while
[03:39] <JoseP> I'm still using TeamSpeak
[03:40] <JoseP> ActionParsnip: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 47 not upgraded.
[03:43] <speedrunnerG55> how can i run .inf files?
[03:44] <st47> speedrunnerG55: You're probably confused
[03:44] <st47> where did you get the inf file
[03:44] <st47> ?
[03:44] <speedrunnerG55> a cd
[03:44] <st47> is it a driver?
[03:45] <speedrunnerG55> install
[03:46] <st47> an inf file is just a text configuration file that can either describe how to install a driver on windows, or do autorun
[03:46] <st47> I've never needed to use them for linux
[03:46] <speedrunnerG55> oh
[03:46] <SxLan3> yes....it's just for information...
[03:46] <speedrunnerG55> can you help me install unreal tournament 2004?
[03:47] <st47> get wine
[03:47] <speedrunnerG55> i have wine
[03:47] <st47> then just use wine to run the setup.exe or whatever on the CD
[03:47] <speedrunnerG55> but it says on the box it worked with linux
[03:48] <SxLan3> try OpenArena
[03:48] <SxLan3> is for FREE
[03:48] <st47> crap, that's a call
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: you are square, you can now run:  sudo apt-get -y upgrade
[03:48] <SxLan3> and u can fin it in the Ubuntu Center
[03:48] <speedrunnerG55> is open arena good?
[03:49] <SxLan3> not like HALO ....but yes....
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> speedrunnerG55: openarena runs linux native, no need for wine
[03:49] <speedrunnerG55> are there viacles?
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> speedrunnerG55: OpenArena v0.8.1 Win/Lin/Mac Unified Zip from htp://openarena.ws
[03:50] <SxLan3> yes ....that's better!....
[03:50] <SxLan3> do u use Ubuntu?
[03:50] <speedrunnerG55> are there viacles?
[03:50] <speedrunnerG55> yes
[03:50] <JoseP> what would that do, ActionParsnip?
[03:50] <SxLan3> cause u can fin it in the Ubuntu Center....
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: with what?
[03:51] <SxLan3> and Download automaticly....
[03:51] <speedrunnerG55> ARE THERE VIACLES?
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> !info openarena
[03:51] <JoseP> sudo apt-get -y upgrade
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> speedrunnerG55: what is a viacle?
[03:51] <speedrunnerG55> cars/tanks
[03:51] <speedrunnerG55> w/e
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: yes, that will upgrade you
[03:51] <witeshark> is there a way to clear or clean update manager 'partial update' issue on language packages?
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> speedrunnerG55: ohhh VEHICLES
[03:51] <speedrunnerG55> lol
[03:51] <SxLan3> haha
[03:51] <pangea> hi all
[03:52] <JoseP> ok
[03:52] <SxLan3> i don't play games a lot......but i played some times....and is nice.....
[03:52] <JoseP> now, ActionParsnip, I already ran sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:52] <JoseP> I'm running 11.04
[03:52] <JoseP> do I still have to run that? or should I?
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: cool then it's good to go
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: can't hurt, if its fully upgraded you wil be told :)
[03:53] <JoseP> ok I'll try that :D
[03:54] <alex220784> hello
[03:54] <dasschu> can anyone help with a   dual-boot install
[03:54] <pangea> anyone here know the ins and outs of setting up printers in ubuntu, specifically Dell printers
[03:55] <wildbat> dasschu: install WINDOWS ~ then ubuntu ~ done ~
[03:55] <dasschu> issue is I'm installing on a raid, the install dc's see it as 2 drives amd I tried wudi but that tells me it can't find the root.disk
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> pangea: if you run:  lsusb  you will see the 8 character hex ID which wuill help you find guides
[03:56] <progenitor> I installed the Ubuntu Minimal install disk and customized it to all my needs. I did all of this with a wires internet connection. I just want to know how to configure a wireless connection for my home and how to tether my android?
[03:56] <progenitor> wired*
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> pangea: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrintersDell
[03:56] <airtonix> progenitor: you're android needs to have the ability to connect to adhoc wifi points
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> pangea: usually those things are rebadged Lexmark printers
[03:57] <progenitor> @airtonix : yes it does... :) SE xperia X10 running stock Gingerbread ROM
[03:57] <airtonix> thether is stupid word anyway, like lag. it doesn't describe exactly what you mean
[03:57] <airtonix> tether*
[03:57] <dasschu> I've installed dial boot lots of tomes before but this is the first ti,e I'm trying yo install to a raid
[03:58] <progenitor> to tether my mobile broadband to my laptop... usb or wireless will do
[03:59] <airtonix> progenitor: just say, use my phone as a 3g wan connection
[03:59] <pangea> ActionParsnip: that's my problem it's not any of those models. It's a 2330dn on network with fixed ip
[03:59] <JoseP> it's all fixed now
[03:59] <JoseP> I'll try to work with Cups some other time
[03:59] <airtonix> progenitor: also, does your home have an operating system ?
[03:59] <JoseP> thanks ActionParsnip
[03:59] <progenitor> airtonix : yea exactly
[04:00] <JoseP> you deserve a freaking medal
[04:00] <JoseP> you and OmegaForte
[04:00] <pangea> ActionParsnip: it's painfully slow/unsuccessful printing pdf using the dell supplied ppd for my model. Especially changing orientation or pages per sheet - just doesn't work
[04:00] <JoseP> I'm gonna head out now
[04:00] <JoseP> Laters
[04:01] <rodd> Hi, I'm on ubuntu 11.04 and it crashes every time it builds the dependency tree (either when loading synaptic package manager, running apt-get, etc). Any idea of what may be causing this?
[04:01] <progenitor> airtonix : home, meaning my wireless router :)
[04:01] <witeshark> sigh.... well one last question... will the 11.04 upgrade explode with a chromium browser update, a GNOME and chromium language package in update manager limbo (partial update warning)?
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> pangea: is there a config for the network settings in the printer. I have an HP Deskjet 960c on a parralel wifi device and I had to set the print speed to slow to make it go fast
[04:03] <pangea> ActionParsnip: currently I'm using Generic PCL 5e Printer Foomatic/hpijs-pcl5e (recommended) driver which gives me reasonable pdf printing speed but none of the functions such as change orientation and page scaling
[04:03] <pangea> Actio
[04:04] <czervik_> posted details of my resolution prob here, would appreciate any help :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1815249
[04:04] <airtonix> progenitor: are you using a laptop, or a desktop computer? if a desktop computer then thedevice id of the wifi card which looks like 14e4:4315
[04:04] <airtonix> progenitor: you'll need to supply an id like that regardless though
[04:05] <pangea> ActionParsnip: yes there is a network menu on the printer, I can change things such as  PCL and PS switching on/off, NPA mode
[04:06] <dimas_> what is a good place to ask about website security?
[04:06] <progenitor> I am using a laptop. Acer 5742 with a broadcom wireless chip. usually when i had a full ubuntu install with open box as my session I had to type nm-applet and it would connect to the preconfigured wireless network. now I did install nm-applet but typing it does'nt give me any output
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> pangea: not sure then, are there bugs reported
[04:07] <pangea> ActionParsnip: not that I've been able to find, but then I'm reasonably new to ubuntu
[04:07] <hermes102-> Anyone know how to change apaches HTDOCs directory to a users home directory?
[04:07] <airtonix> progenitor: device id: lspci -nn
[04:08] <airtonix> hermes102-: sudo a2enmod userdir
[04:08] <hermes102-> Thanks :D
[04:08] <airtonix> hermes102-: then research that module on the apache2 documentation site
[04:08] <shalok> How do I enable root logins at the console?
[04:08] <st47> sudo passwd will allow you to set a root password
[04:09] <st47> you can also do sudo -i if you only need it once
[04:09] <rodd> christ
[04:09] <rodd> 4th time in a row that ubuntu crashes
[04:09] <alcidemar> how do i change xorg to xvesa on the xubuntu 11.04?
[04:09] <st47> that's a lot of x's
[04:10] <alcidemar> this pc are using now the xorg, but i want to change to xvesa
[04:10] <shalok> st47: Thanks. Is there anyway to let me create an empty password?
[04:11] <st47> for root
[04:11]  * st47 runs away and hides under a rock
[04:11] <rodd> for root's sakes
[04:12] <shalok> st47: For any user, including root.
[04:12] <SxLan3> hermes102: it's supposed to create that folder for save your publications...
[04:12] <st47> shalok: you really shouldn't do that
[04:12] <shalok> st47: Do you know how?
[04:12] <rww> !noroot | st47
[04:12] <SxLan3> why u want to change that?
[04:12] <st47> I'm looking
[04:14] <alcidemar> Please! how do i install the xvesa on xubuntu 11.04/
[04:15] <rodd> half moon forward, X, X, Circle
[04:15] <rodd> sorry, i have no clue
[04:16] <alcidemar> c'mon guys
[04:16] <alcidemar> nobody knows how do i change that shit?
[04:16] <bazhang> !helpme | alcidemar
[04:16] <bazhang> alcidemar, no cursing here
[04:16] <IdleOne> alcidemar: Please don't swear
[04:18] <al_nz1> cp from one machine to another (sshfs mounted source) keeps failing with no space left, yet df -h shows I have 36G left on /livemnt/boot ?
[04:20] <wildbat> al_nz1: the /boot partition over there don't have space may be
[04:20] <al_nz1> wildbat: I am copying to the machine I am on, and I have 36Gb free
[04:22] <wildbat> al_nz1: how about pastebin your cp line, mount, df
[04:23] <al_nz1> wildbat:  working on it!
[04:23] <shalok> st47: Apparently just remove _secure from nullok_secure in /etc/pam.d/common-auth.
[04:25] <rodd> cmon
[04:25] <rodd> this is annoying
[04:25] <rodd> I can't even load synaptic package manager anymore
[04:26] <rodd> first time it auto exit, second time crashes the system
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> rodd: what is the output of:  sudo apt-get update; lsb_release -a
[04:27] <perturbo> leave #ubuntu
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> rodd: use a pastebin to hold the output
[04:27] <al_nz1> wildbat: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/193/screenshotubk.png/
[04:28] <rodd> ActionParsnip,  lsb_release: error: No arguments are permitted
[04:28] <al_nz1> wildbat: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/585/screenshot1ws.png/
[04:28] <rodd> above that, a list of urls
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> rodd: ok then:   sudo apt-get update; cat /etc/lsb-release
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> rodd: yes, use http://pastie.org   to give the output please
[04:30] <rodd> http://pastie.org/2297323
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> rodd: ok good so far. If you run: sudo apt-get -y upgrade    is it smooth (no errors)
[04:33] <rodd> let me see
[04:33] <Flannel> ActionParsnip, rodd: please don't use -y
[04:33] <AkivaII> I beg your pardon, I am trying to get this radio stream loop working in ubuntu, after trying a few things, I want to see if I am the only one having problems
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: why, it's upgrade, not dist-upgrade
[04:34] <AkivaII> can anyone else try this link, and see if it will stream for you? http://www.schiffradio.com/f/loop
[04:34] <al_nz1> wildbat: any clues?
[04:34] <Flannel> ActionParsnip: Because assuming yes is always a bad thing, it's a bad habit to get into, and if it prompts you if you're sure once, is that really that much of an inconveniece?
[04:34] <wildbat> al_nz1: i don't see the cp line yet and that is not ubuntu ;p
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: I gues, just makes life smooth
[04:35] <Flannel> ActionParsnip: This channel is about doing things properly, not taking potentially dangerous shortcuts
[04:35] <fission6> how can i show what would be upgraded if i were to run sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:35] <Flannel> fission6: --simulate
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> AkivaII: do you have a plugin for browser to connect with your media player, like mozilla-mplayer
[04:36] <AkivaII> I had the totem plugin I believe that came by default, and then I tried the mozilla vlc one
[04:36] <fission6> thanks
[04:36] <AkivaII> ActionParsnip: but that seems to not even activate
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> AkivaII: hmm, maybe having both is causing the issue
[04:37] <AkivaII> ActionParsnip: I will check synaptic, brb
[04:38] <MathiasRXubuntu> Good day all!
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> rodd: how's it going?
[04:38] <MathiasRXubuntu> Quite well
[04:38] <MathiasRXubuntu> Quite well
[04:39] <rodd> was brushing my teeth
[04:39] <rodd> says i gotta restart
[04:39] <rodd> brb
[04:41] <AkivaII> ActionParsnip: I took out the totem plugin and left only the vlc, and the vlc mozilla plugin still won't load. The totem will load, but it gives me a generic error message
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> AkivaII: did you restart mozilla to load the new plugin set?
[04:42] <AkivaII> couldn't find the plugin in the ff addon's
[04:43] <AkivaII> then again, could also not find the totems, but let me give it another shot
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> AkivaII: if you go to:    about:plugins    do you see one listed
[04:44] <AkivaII> ActionParsnip: yah, vlc is there, but it is still not loading. maybe though, I will try mplayer :P
[04:45] <rodd> seems fine now ActionParsnip
[04:45] <rodd> thanks
[04:45] <rodd> hopefully it wont happen again
[04:45] <shalok> Is there a bug in aptitude or something? When I use 'aptitude --schedule-only markauto' it sets everything as auto (as expected), but if I then use the aptitude gui to install xfce4 it removes the auto flag from all packages that xfce4 depends on... wtf?
[04:46] <nsadmin> theres no gpm?
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> rodd: sweet :)
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> rodd: CLI fixes all
[04:46] <rodd> ActionParsnip, So, was it something messed up
[04:46] <rodd> in the packages' source list?
[04:46] <rodd> or something like that?
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> rodd: most likely, but the gui crashed trying to read it, so cli steps in (as always) to save the day
[04:47] <rodd> yeah, weird though is that it also crashed when I tried to install a package through CLI
[04:47] <rodd> well thanks anyway
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> rodd: always a pleasure
[04:49] <nsadmin> so, I'm having a coupla problems, lets just deal with one, X doesn't seem to start properly
[04:49] <shalok> Perhaps there is a better way to do this... How do I set all packages on my system as automatically installed except a handful that I have selected?
[04:50] <teknova> anyone here have any experience with writing xorg files?
[04:50] <bsmith093> is it possible to restrart x clean without logging out?
[04:50] <AkivaII> ActionParsnip: No luck. I have tried the Gstreamer, Xine, and VLC plugin for http://www.schiffradio.com/f/loop , and none of them work
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> teknova: some
[04:50] <nsadmin> I installed xorg once I could get access to the CD content properly, this is a laptop with a synaptics touchpad... which is also why I asked about gpm earlier
[04:50] <Nobgul> bsmith093: Yes there is but i can't remember the command
[04:50] <AkivaII> ActionParsnip: does it work for your system?
[04:51] <nsadmin> aptitude does that already, as long as you use it all the time (instead of apt-get)
[04:51] <almoxarife> shalok: easy enough with synaptic, select all, remove the wanted and then flag them
[04:51] <almoxarife> un-wanted-
[04:51] <teknova> when someone has a min i need some help dual sreening with xorg
[04:52] <almoxarife> aptitude is kubuntu?
[04:53] <nsadmin> teknova: you shouldn't wait until someone has time,,, just be specific and informative, and ask your questions
[04:53] <shalok> almoxarife: Trying it now. For some reason it takes ages...
[04:57] <shalok> almoxarife: aptitude is ncurses version of synaptic.
[04:57] <shalok> more or less
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> AkivaII: i'm at work on XP right now so can't test. sorry
[04:57] <nsadmin> I guess they both use libapt
[04:58] <AkivaII> ActionParsnip: thanks anyways.
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> AkivaII: np man
[05:00] <teknova> I have an ATI Radeon HD 4200 on-board GPU and a GeForce 8400 GS pci 16x both with vga output and need to know how to dula screen like in windows xp. I am running Xubuntu 11.04
[05:01] <teknova> ps i am a liunx newbie
[05:01] <nsadmin> is ubuntu with kde a whole separate dist?
[05:01] <predatore> I have an error
[05:01] <shalok> almoxarife: How can I see the 'auto installed' mark in the table view? Having to check the tick in the menu is annoying...
[05:02] <nsadmin> I shot the error into the air,,, where it fell I knew not where...
[05:02] <predatore> Its in recovery mode: (EE) Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exhist, 0)
[05:02] <predatore> that is after running xstart
[05:03] <teknova> can anyone help me with my problem?
[05:03] <nsadmin> it's probably in some separate package
[05:03] <Nobgul> !question | predatore
[05:03] <almoxarife> shalok: in filters perhaps?
[05:03] <predatore> Gah, Sorry. I'm so bad at this.
[05:03] <nsadmin> can I ask to ask to ask?
[05:04] <bullgard4_> shalok: "[06:57]	<shalok>	more or less" <--  Rather less.
[05:04] <teknova> I have an ATI Radeon HD 4200 on-board GPU and a GeForce 8400 GS pci 16x both with vga output and need to know how to dual screen like in windows xp. I am running Xubuntu 11.04
[05:04] <almoxarife> shalok: yeap, a custom filter is avail
[05:05] <predatore> Can anyone tell me how to fix xserver with this error after typing in Xstart in recovery: error is "(EE) Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exhist,0)
[05:05] <Nobgul> teknova: Have you checked google? i just did and i see the answer int he top 10
[05:06] <predatore> Followed by (EE) Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Razer BlackWidow Ultimate: Failed to initiate xinit: connection to x server was lost.
[05:06] <bullgard4_> predatore: You probably need to install an NVidia driver.
[05:06] <predatore> It was installed, This all happened right after I updated.
[05:07] <Nobgul> teknova: This is a little old but it should still work. http://vasir.net/blog/ubuntu/set-up-dual-monitors-with-ubuntu-804/
[05:07] <bullgard4_> !prefix | predatore
[05:08] <teknova> i will try that and get back to you
[05:08] <Nobgul> teknova: Ok.
[05:08] <teknova> but yes i scoured google
[05:08] <predatore> bullgard4: I have one installed already on it. I lost my ui. I can boot into it, but all I get is an app manager window and nothing else.
[05:10] <bullgard4_> predatore: The message "error is "(EE) Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exhist,0)" seems to imply that you need to install a NVidia driver anew.
[05:10] <predatore> Bullgard4: I will do so. Thank You.
[05:10] <predatore> bullgard4: how ... lol
[05:13] <teknova> this envyng program was written for hardy i use natty does that matter?
[05:13] <bullgard4_> predatore: Try '~$ sudo apt-get install nvidia-180-modaliaes'
[05:13] <predatore> Thank You
[05:14] <cypha> what's a good editor that can collapse blocks of code?
[05:15] <cypha> i was hoping gedit could, but guess not
[05:15] <Nobgul> teknova: As i said it is a bit dated but most programs should still work. I am sure there is a easier way to do it but i have such a large screen i do not need to use 2 so i am not sure
[05:15] <bullgard4_> cypha: Please tell me what it means to _collapse_ blocks of code.
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> cypha: i'd ask in the channel for the language you are coding in
[05:15] <teknova> ok
[05:16] <cypha> ActionParsnip: all purpose. like notepad++ for windows
[05:16] <cypha> i know vi can do it
[05:16] <Nobgul> bullgard4_: In programs such as eclipse ide etc you can colapse a block of code with the little +/- button
[05:16] <cypha> but I'm trying to avoid vi
[05:16] <cypha> cuz i hate the shortcuts
[05:16] <Darksmurf> nano ?
[05:16] <Darksmurf> nano/pico
[05:17] <st47> I don't think nano lets you collapse blocks of code
[05:17] <Nobgul> no it does not
[05:17] <cypha> Darksmurf: do they have normal (intuitive) keyboard shortcuts
[05:17] <Darksmurf> ah, I was thinking syntax highlighting
[05:17] <cypha> or are the shortcuts editable in a gui?
[05:17] <cypha> Darksmurf: i want that too
[05:17] <Nobgul> There is a plugin for nano that will do code hightlighting
[05:18] <Nobgul> with a slew of languages
[05:18] <Darksmurf> cypha they don't use the most common shortcuts, and I don't think they can be changed.
[05:18] <Darksmurf> and they are console apps
[05:18] <Darksmurf> example: CTRL+W for 'where', aka 'Find'
[05:18] <cypha> yeah, no console apps
[05:18] <cypha> cuz vi is good for that
[05:19] <cypha> it's just a bitch to setup vi
[05:21] <Nobgul> why not just use gedit though?
[05:21] <Nobgul> or Geany
[05:24] <teknova> why does everything in liunx have to be so damn difficult
[05:24] <Nobgul> teknova: It really is not that hard.
[05:25] <teknova> i cant get this package added to my software souces
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> teknova: it's not, you are just so used to Windows, anythng else is hard for you
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> teknova: what are you trying to add?
[05:27] <teknova> deb http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/ubuntu//pool/universe/e/envyng-core/envyng-core_1.1.1ubuntu17_all.deb hardy-updates main universe
[05:27] <teknova> say 404 not found but the website works
[05:27] <rww> ...
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> teknova: envy isn't needed and hardy desktop support is dead
[05:27] <rww> and that's now how package sources work.
[05:28] <TITANO> it tries to download something
[05:28] <teknova> i am adding it to the souces list
[05:28] <TITANO> so the resource is there
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> teknova: what is the output of:  lsb_release -d   please
[05:29] <centr0> wow? my java environment is twice as fast here than win7
[05:29] <teknova> Ubuntu 11.04
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> teknova: then why add a hardy repo to a natty OS?
[05:30] <teknova> i neeed envyng
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> centr0: ubuntu uses fewer resources by default so will free up ram for your apps to thrive
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> teknova: what for?
[05:30] <teknova> dual sreens
[05:31] <teknova> screens*
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> teknova: which video chip do you have?
[05:31] <teknova> I have an ATI Radeon HD 4200 on-board GPU and a GeForce 8400 GS pci 16x both with vga output and need to know how to dual screen like in windows xp. I am running Xubuntu 11.04
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> !dualhead
[05:32] <teknova> i know nither work with dissperate vid cards
[05:32] <KSHawkEye> Could anyone tell me how webhosts set up their linux to allow httpd to write to every user on the shared server with the file permissions being 755?
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> teknova: 1. mixing debs between releases isn't advised or supported 2. Envy isn't advised even if Hardy was still supported
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> teknova: they can, you may need to form an xorg.conf though
[05:33] <teknova> one time when i ran off the live cd i got the treminal in my second screen but only once and not in real time together
[05:33] <teknova> that was my origanl question
[05:33] <teknova> i was advised to use envy
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> !envy
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> !envyng
[05:34] <rww> we deleted it because it's not recommended or needed any more, iirc
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> wow its not even an ubottu factoid its that out of date
[05:34] <rww> !search envy
[05:34] <rww> yup. * = deleted
[05:34] <teknova> wel if anyone has any ideas im open to suggestions
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> cool
[05:35] <teknova> i belive this would be best solved with editing my xorg file but im lost as to ho to do it and im not a native programmer
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> teknova: you will need to hunt on the web for sample xorg.conf files you can use. You will need to run:  gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf    to get write access, there are many samples around. The file isn't overly complex and don't put sections in regarding keyboards and mice as these are working ok
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> teknova: i'm not a programmer either, yet I can search to find sample files to copy sections from and try
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> teknova: http://blog.vinceliu.com/2009/02/setting-dual-head-displays-with-radeon.html
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> teknova: has a sample xorg.conf   you can change the names and drivers used to suit your setup
[05:40] <teknova> thank you
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> teknova: each screen is made up of 1 video card and one monitor
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> teknova: then the server is made up of the 2 screens
[05:40] <st47> >.>
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> teknova: obviously that is using the same device for each video card but you will change that as your setup is not like that
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> teknova: as you can see. I (a non programmer) found that using the internet
[05:43] <teknova> well i was looking for things speciffly for 11.04
[05:43] <overfiend> I've messed up my graphics card drivers and now my pc can't display anything. Would anyone be able to help?
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> teknova: Xorg is Xorg dude don't get bogged down with versions too much
[05:44] <teknova> this is telling me to use binary drivers
[05:44] <teknova> i cant do that
[05:45] <teknova> because i cant install two binary drivers
[05:47] <teknova> can i?
[05:47] <teknova> can i install two binary drivers?
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> teknova: don't see why not
[05:49] <teknova> how would i go about it?
[05:50] <beanluc> Hi folks... I attached a drive to the Ultra ATA ribbon to try to copy stuff off it. But it doesn't appear in /dev so I can't mount it... Any ideas?
[05:50] <beanluc> it's jumpered as a slave so... I'm surprised
[05:51] <nsadmin> ok, I have ubuntu base and a few other packages installed, X is installed, not sure it's starting properly... how would I go about installing kde?
[05:52] <beanluc> nsadmin https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE
[05:53] <nsadmin> so the apt-get command has a greater number of chars than the url?
[05:53] <nsadmin> also, I don't have a browser installed
[05:54] <beanluc> nsadmin oh you just want to know what packages?
[05:54] <nsadmin> I suppose I could telnet
[05:54] <beanluc> nsadmin packages are called kde and kde-core
[05:55] <teknova> how do i nstall two binary video drivers
[05:55] <beanluc> nsadmin and you can get kubuntu-desktop too if you want the whole thing
[05:57] <ministerdude> sudo ? firefox update? new version?
[05:57] <st47> is there a question in there?
[05:57] <beanluc> LOL is that one question or three ministerdude
[05:57] <ministerdude> I need the whole command please :)
[05:58] <nsadmin> mmm, ok thank you
[05:58] <beanluc> ministerdude I'd just run firefox under su, then use the "update firefox" from the menu
[05:58] <beanluc> ministerdude you need CLI version for a reason?
[05:59] <beanluc> just asking
[05:59] <ministerdude> I just don't like the version I'm on. someone told me the newest is faster
[05:59] <centr0> chrome is faster..  but okay.
[05:59] <beanluc> ministerdude do it from the program's Help menu, don't do it from the command line
[06:00] <centr0> ^what he said.
[06:00] <rww> Ubuntu's firefox builds don't have Help menu updating enabled.
[06:00] <rww> !ff5
[06:00] <responce> hi, I just updated ubuntu from the downloadable image to the latest, however, my wireless card no longer works.
[06:00] <responce> any tips?
[06:00] <ministerdude> programs help? where
[06:00] <rcmaehl> is there a limit to how redundant of an ssh loop you can have?
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> Faster is he only way firefox can go
[06:02] <bombgame> ChanServ: should I even try on this IRC
[06:02] <rww> no.
[06:03] <ihsw> how do i update my rtorrent package
[06:03] <bombgame> rww: do you know what I am talking about
[06:03] <st47> ihsw: sudo apt-get install rww
[06:03] <st47> oops
[06:03] <st47> tabcomplete doesn't work like that
[06:03] <st47> ihsw: sudo apt-get install rtorrent
[06:04] <ihsw> curses, there's been no update recently
[06:04] <rww> !latest
[06:05] <ihsw> hmm, i'm tempted to compile it from source
[06:05] <beanluc> I need to get this Ultra ATA disk attached and mounted. It works fine with one disk, but an identical one never shows up in /dev so I can't mount it. Any ideas?
[06:05] <beanluc> I tested 2 disks to be sure it works
[06:05] <beanluc> but the stuff I need to copy is on the one that won't attach
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> ihsw: could try a ppa
[06:07] <ihsw> ActionParsnip: forgive me, what's a ppa?
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> !ppa
[06:08] <zagrev> anyone faced this problem? BIOS sees my 160GB seagate HD but the ubuntu live cd doesnt :/
[06:09] <zagrev> "fdisk -l" doesnt show it either
[06:10] <orwell> Tried sudo rm -rf /
[06:10] <orwell> ?
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> ihsw: http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/ says latest stable is 0.8.9 and Natty has 0.8.6
[06:10] <orwell> I'm kidding.
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> ihsw: what is so different in the new version...
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> orwell: don't kid like that please
[06:11] <girly_> orwell: that is dangeorus!!
[06:11] <teknova> what does that do?
[06:12] <beanluc> orwell you forgot the part where you tell 'em to man rm first
[06:12] <beanluc> teknova ^
[06:12] <girly_> teknova: delete the whole filesystem
[06:12] <teknova> lol
[06:12] <droidman101> boom, gone, goodbye
[06:13] <Lasers> teknova: "rm" = "remove"  -- Basically, it'll attempt to remove everything (with force).
[06:13] <rww> and fail, but still
[06:13] <Lasers> Yeah. Why are we even enforcing that factoid? o.O
[06:13] <teknova> yeah i got the rm it was the -rf option i was unfamilar with
[06:13] <Nobgul> recursive force
[06:14] <Nobgul> basically it wont ask anyquestions it just does
[06:14] <droidman101> -rf yes, kill it all
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> teknova: r == recursive  f == force
[06:14] <rww> teknova: -r means recursively delete subdirectories and files. -f means never prompt or warn
[06:14] <teknova> ahh ok
[06:14] <rww> Lasers: because this is a support channel, not a playground for trolls that don't know what they're doing
[06:14] <beanluc> and sudo means do it with extreme prejudice
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> ihsw: I found a ppa with 0.8.8    if that's any good to you....
[06:15] <beanluc> sudo show my drive in /dev so i can fkn mount it
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> beanluc: use:  sudo fdisk -l    and you'll see them
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> beanluc: sudo can't show you anything, it's not it's job to
[06:16] <beanluc> No.
[06:16] <beanluc> It's not mounted, I said.
[06:16] <Lasers> rww: Good point.
[06:16] <beanluc> fdisk -l only shows sda devices
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> beanluc: it doesn't need to be for fdisk to list it
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> beanluc: I know what you said
[06:16] <beanluc> well I ran it anyway and that's what I got
[06:16] <teknova> ok what could i do to install to binary drivers
[06:16] <beanluc> only sda, no sdb's
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> beanluc: yes then the system has detected 2 drives
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> oh
[06:17] <beanluc> no it hasn't
[06:17] <c0dege3k> hi, i just installed gnome 3 on 11.04 tonight, and i cannot for the life of me get the file manager to open. it shows up in the top bar for a bit, takes up some memory and then disappears. ideas?
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> beanluc: then sdb isn't detected
[06:17] <beanluc> exactly
[06:17] <beanluc> parsnip
[06:17] <beanluc> that's my whole proble m
[06:17] <rww> c0dege3k: GNOME 3 isn't supported on 11.04 officially or in here.
[06:17] <beanluc> that's what i'm asking aobut
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> beanluc: being detected and being mounted are very different
[06:17] <c0dege3k> rww: is there a channel that i can go to?
[06:17] <rww> c0dege3k: nope
[06:17] <beanluc> INOOOOOOOO
[06:17] <c0dege3k> k thanks
[06:17] <beanluc> lok sorry for shouting but scroll up
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> beanluc: is it a hard drive? or an SD card?
[06:18] <beanluc> Ultra ATA on the 2nd ribbon
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> beanluc: does it show in BIOS?
[06:18] <beanluc> an identical isk works doing this.
[06:18] <beanluc> computer is headless so I haven't bothered to drag it to where I can see BIOS
[06:19] <beanluc> anyway both these disks worked when i pulled em out another computer... but one of em can be detected and one of em can't
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> beanluc: its the first thing to check, also avoid using cable select and set it to a master or slave etc
[06:19] <beanluc> they're slaves
[06:19] <beanluc> jumpered as slaves
[06:19] <teknova> you know i had a similar problem the other day when playing around with ext2fsd
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> beanluc: if you have 2 slaves on the same controller it won't work
[06:19] <beanluc> NOOOOO
[06:19] <beanluc> they're not on there at tnhe same TIME
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> beanluc: well I DON'T know that do I
[06:20] <teknova> partion magic would detec my ext4 disks
[06:20] <beanluc> you've been here the whole time I have parsnip
[06:20] <bdi_> What is this package called which installs all the good codecs needed?
[06:20] <beanluc> I said it before
[06:20] <teknova> wouldnt*
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> beanluc: I'd make sure they are detected in BIOS first. Simply slinging them into a system and powering on without checking basic stuff like that isn't wise
[06:21] <teknova> i think he said bios detected it
[06:21] <beanluc> I guess I'll have to
[06:21] <beanluc> teknova bios detected the other disk
[06:21] <ActionParsnip> bdi_: unbuntu-restricted-extras
[06:21] <teknova> what? you didnt try that first?
[06:21] <beanluc> teknova i don't know what bios says about the one i WANT to connnect because it'
[06:21] <beanluc> the box is in the basement with no kvm
[06:21] <ActionParsnip> bdi_: if you use xubuntu or kubuntu  then change the package name accordingly :)
[06:22] <beanluc> just this terminal
[06:22] <teknova> oh
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> bdi_: also install vlc and gnome-mplayer (i assume gnome), you may also want to add the medibuntu repo and install w32codecs (i assume 32bit OS)
[06:22] <teknova> i would just use vlc
[06:23] <beanluc> anyway i was just hoping someone might have an idea whether there was anything to do BEFORE powering the m'er f'er down and carrying it up here where I can attach kvm
[06:23] <teknova> i dont care for gnome player
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> teknova: mplayer pulls in a tonne of goodness too
[06:23] <beanluc> vlc? that can get me a bios screen?
[06:23] <teknova> no resonding to a different person
[06:23] <beanluc> oh wait nevermind that wasn't for me
[06:23] <beanluc> k
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> beanluc: no, you will need an iLo or DRAC card to see bios remotely (or similar technology)
[06:23] <beanluc> i guess i was thinking you were talking about vNc... @me
[06:24] <teknova> even for a non gnome distro?
[06:24] <beanluc> ActionParsnip: yes
[06:24] <ActionParsnip> teknova: smplayer will run in kde just dandy
[06:24] <teknova> what about xcfe?
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> teknova: gnome-mplayer will work according to http://wiki.xfce.org/recommendedapps
[06:27] <bdi_> ActionParsnip, how do i add the medibuntu repo?
[06:28] <wolfric> Is there anyway of storing my passcode for encrypting and decrypting files somehow? at the moment i normally do gpg -c to encrypt a file and gpg file to decrypt but was hoping there was some sort of method of storing it when i put it in the first time
[06:28] <vostro> has anyone installed crunch for aircrack-ng
[06:28] <girly_> vostro: Years ago
[06:28] <wolfric> i'd rather not create just one large encrypted file that i mount or something and prefer to encrypt the files individually and the encryption algorithm doesn't matter
[06:29] <nsadmin> beanluc, are you still around? qu3estion, I tried to install "kde" but it's not found... do I need to add a source specific to kde and to natty?
[06:30] <vostro> what sort of things do u do now girly
[06:30] <Lasers> nsadmin: Okay. How did you attempt to install kde in first place?
[06:30] <nsadmin> aptitude install kde
[06:30] <girly_> vostro: What do you mean?
[06:30] <Lasers> !info kde | nsadmin
[06:31] <nsadmin> oh, ok... hmm. what does?
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> anyone know an ipad channel on freenode?
[06:31] <beanluc> nsadmin did you try kde-core
[06:31] <Lasers> nsadmin: It does not exist. Use "sudo aptitude search kde" to find a list of packages -- then go from there.
[06:31] <nsadmin> no not yet
[06:31] <vostro> girly i mean what things do u do with linux now if you were hacking wep/wpa years ago
[06:31] <nit-wit> nsadmin, kubuntu-desktop is the command
[06:32] <nsadmin> oh ok
[06:32] <vostro> girly so u can install crunch but u have  to play your games on windows
[06:32] <vostro> girly have u notheard of wine
[06:32] <vostro> girly u must have
[06:32] <girly_> vostro: I was trying it on my own connection not stealing
[06:33] <girly_> vostro: Yes but trust me its not the same
[06:33] <namoamitafo> Hi guys
[06:33] <vostro> girly i use wine i do my own trusting
[06:33] <girly_> vostro: This is a support channel why don't we discuss non-support related in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:33] <namoamitafo> when I click 'shutdown' on gnome, it only logs out, not shut down
[06:33] <vostro> just tell me male or female girly
[06:33] <nsadmin> wo! heated discussion!
[06:33] <namoamitafo> How to solve it?
[06:34] <beanluc> LOL vostro
[06:34] <vostro> well i needed suppurt with ubuntu and installing crunch
[06:34] <beanluc> it's the internet...
[06:34] <girly_> namoamitafo: do you use gdm
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> namoamitafo: other users are still logged on?
[06:34] <namoamitafo> girly_: yes
[06:34] <girly_> vostro: female why and please don't flirt here
[06:34] <namoamitafo> lotuspsychje: only I'm using pc
[06:34] <vostro> girly no flirting
[06:35] <namoamitafo> lotuspsychje: I should click shutdown in gdm to shut
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> namoamitafo:did you try sudo halt in terminal?
[06:35] <nsadmin> flirting is scary...
[06:35] <beanluc> that's not a florty screenname or anything...
[06:35] <girly_> vostro: like it should make a difference to you
[06:35] <bdi_> ActionParsnip, how do i add the medibuntu repo?
[06:35] <namoamitafo> lotuspsychje: oh, awful
[06:35] <ivs> vostro: I've always found jtr's generation rules to be more flexible than crunch
[06:35] <namoamitafo> lotuspsychje: sudo halt, I'll use root euid to shutdown==
[06:35] <girly_> beanluc: Wasn't intended to be just my character
[06:36] <nit-wit> bdi, http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/linux-distributions/linux-distributions4-ubuntu/1656-how-to-add-medibuntu-repository-in-ubuntu-via-terminal-and-gui
[06:36] <vostro> ivs and is this compatible with aircrack-ng
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> namoamitafo:did you check system logs for shutdown errors?
[06:37] <namoamitafo> lotuspsychje: where? /var/log/*?
[06:37] <nsadmin> vostro: tias
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> namoamitafo:yes
[06:37] <ivs> vostro: well yeah - you can generate wordlists and then just use those when you call aircrack-ng
[06:37] <beanluc> well bye... i gotta shut this thing down so i can put kvm on it
[06:37] <nit-wit> bdi_, http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/linux-distributions/linux-distributions4-ubuntu/1656-how-to-add-medibuntu-repository-in-ubuntu-via-terminal-and-gui
[06:38] <namoamitafo> lotuspsychje: It's a problem between gnome-power-manager and gdm, I think
[06:38] <ivs> vostro: but you might want to check out pyrit if that's what you're focused on
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> namoamitafo: found similar bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/xfce4-session/+bug/711571
[06:38] <teknova> can i activate two binary drivers with jockey?
[06:38] <nsadmin> brb
[06:39] <namoamitafo> lotuspsychje: oh, sorry for my bad english. I found a page describing my problem, but old: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=45771&start=0
[06:41] <no_face> could someone tell me the program name for installing proprietary drivers in ubuntu please?
[06:41] <no_face> ati drivers for instance
[06:41] <bdi_> nit-wit, thx :) and what are the win32 codecs called which are required to play wmv files?
[06:42] <girly_> no_face: restricted driver manager its installed by default
[06:42] <namoamitafo> lotuspsychje: is there any solution?
[06:42] <no_face> bdi ubuntu+restricted-extras
[06:42] <no_face> thanks girly_
[06:42] <teknova> can i activate two binary drivers with jockey?
[06:43] <no_face> i got minimal install girly
[06:43] <nit-wit> bdi_, w32 codecs I would look in synaptic.
[06:43] <girly_> no_face: You're Welcome
[06:43] <teknova> jockey-gtk to be pecific
[06:43] <teknova> secific*
[06:44] <teknova> specific*
[06:44] <Electroso> i have not tried this but i was wandering if you could run a virtual pc in a virtual pc on a pc?
[06:44] <teknova> lol
[06:44] <droidman101> itll run horribly
[06:44] <teknova> why?
[06:44] <no_face> girly_ could you find the actual name for me within the launcher... i don't see in repo's
[06:44] <droidman101> but im sure itll work
[06:44] <Electroso> just for the hell of it
[06:44] <girly_> no_face: 1 moment
[06:44] <teknova> lol
[06:45] <girly_> no_face: see this https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/hardware/C/restricted-manager.html
[06:46] <theadmin> Electroso: Technically possible.
[06:46] <theadmin> Electroso: A virtual PC thinks it's pretty real, so no restrictions apply there :D
[06:46] <Electroso> true true
[06:47] <Lasers> Electroso: How much RAM? :)
[06:47] <bdi_> when i try to play a video using vlc player i get this: No suitable decoder module:
[06:47] <bdi_> VLC does not support the audio or video format "MSS2". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this.
[06:47] <no_face> girly_ that is no help for me really
[06:47] <Electroso> i have 8 gig on the system
[06:47] <bdi_> i have also tried to installed restricted extras and w32codecs
[06:47] <bdi_> and played it with totem
[06:47] <Electroso> i figure 1.5 for eacxh
[06:47] <Lasers> Electroso: Go for it! (You must be bored!) :)
[06:47] <bdi_> it gives no image
[06:47] <theadmin> bdi_: Just read it, you can't fix that -- you have to wait for the new VLC version or upgrade yours if it ain't the latest
[06:47] <nit-wit> bdi_ install the restricted-extras for your desktop
[06:47] <bdi_> how can i then try to proceed?
[06:48] <theadmin> nit-wit: That's of no real help with VLC
[06:48] <bdi_> nit-wit, i have that
[06:48] <nit-wit> theadmin, if you say so.
[06:48] <bdi_> i dont care if its vlc or something else...
[06:49] <girly_> no_face: Why?
[06:49] <no_face> because i installed gnome manually
[06:50] <no_face> i have a low fat install =) girly_
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> namoamitafo:not sure sorry, you could also try remove logout applet from taskbar and retry adding it
[06:51] <Soulis77-SE> Hi all, My auth.log and syslog is after one week about 400 Mb big. Is this normal for a server without any trafic?
[06:51] <no_face> found it... sudo apt-get install restricted-manager
[06:52] <theadmin> Soulis77-SE: Do you have logrotate installed?
[06:52] <namoamitafo> lotuspsychje: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=48644
[06:52] <theadmin> Soulis77-SE: If no you just have to get that.
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> Soulis77-SE: depends on repeated msges?
[06:52] <teknova> can i activate two binary drivers with jockey?
[06:53] <namoamitafo> lotuspsychje: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=66425
[06:54] <Soulis77-SE> In my auth  most is cron jobs:  CRON[ ]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user www-data by (uid=0)   CRON[ ]: pam_unix(cron:session): session closed for user www-data CRON[ ]: pam_unix(cron:session): session closed for user smmsp
[06:55] <Soulis77-SE> theadmin: No I haven't logrotate. I will install and set that up.
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> Soulis77-SE: you could try tail -f /var/log/syslog.log to realtime view whats happening
[06:56] <bkerensa> Soulis77-SE: Yeah tail your log as lotuspsychje suggested and consider logrotate
[06:58] <Soulis77-SE> If I pastebin some of my syslog, can someone have a look and see if there is something not installed correctly or something to worrt about?
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> Soulis77-SE: i installed colortail and modified central logging conf to 1 logging file might be usefull for server too
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> Soulis77-SE: im sure someone could help with that on pastebin
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows an ipad support channel on freenode?
[07:02] <namoamitafo> What about lightdm in ubuntu?
[07:02] <Soulis77-SE> lotuspsychje: Thanks for the tip.
[07:02] <nsadmin> Soulis77-SE, you realize by asking that question you're asking someone to read every line...
[07:03] <admiralvorian> ok guys this one is really bothering me I hope someone here has experience with ACPI suspend
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> namoamitafo: i would try logging out/halt system tru terminal first to see if that works
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> !ask admiralvorian
[07:04] <nsadmin> take it in reverse... are you having one specific problem with one specific device that you think might be installed incorrectly?
[07:04] <admiralvorian> I can suspend my system fine, but when I resume I usually get a black, non-responsive screen. Sometimes I can get a password prompt, but it always declines my password, vibrates like I entered three wrong passwords then goes back to black
[07:04] <admiralvorian> !ask
[07:04] <namoamitafo> lotuspsychje: It said that muilt-user login is not real but the gdm thinks that is real.
[07:05] <admiralvorian> lotuspsychje I was just givin' yall a preface :D
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> :p
[07:05] <bidossessi> hi all
[07:05] <admiralvorian> I have tried a few things already and am at the end of my rope
[07:05] <admiralvorian> I'm running an asus UL50VT with a solid-state disk...I think it has something to do with my ssd because before I moved to this drive suspend worked fine
[07:05] <bidossessi> how can one revocer from this type of error. "unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists"
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> admiralvorian: you can doublecheck bios ACPI settings first, then mess some with gconf-editor
[07:06] <admiralvorian> lotuspsychje, what kind of stuff am i looking for in gconf editor
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> admiralvorian: energy settings
[07:07] <Guest50169> bidossessi: did you use sudo?
[07:08] <bidossessi> yes
[07:08] <admiralvorian> lotuspsychje, everything is fine with my acpi settings in the bios. I think the problem is ext4+ssd...it doesn't seem to mount the root filesystem properly
[07:08] <bidossessi> ok. i found out what was wrong
[07:08] <bdi_> what should i install on the server in order to be able to connct with gtkvncviewer?
[07:09] <wols_> bdi_: vino-server
[07:09] <wols_> bdi_: or any other vnc server. but why do you want to use vnc to connect to a server?
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> admiralvorian: i also have ssd on natty, no problems here, my guess would be other settings not an ssd error
[07:09] <bdi_> wols_, its a media server, so need graphic interface
[07:09] <bdi_> wols_, or a media box
[07:10] <wols_> bdi_: no you don't
[07:10] <admiralvorian> lotuspsychje, it worked properly, i changed to an ssd and imaged my system over, then got this error. I then formatted and installed fresh, same symptom.
[07:10] <bdi_> wols_, what do i then need?
[07:10] <wols_> a media server _serves_ media, it doesn't show it necessarily
[07:10] <wols_> bdi_: is X already installed and running on the server?
[07:10] <bdi_> wols_, you are misunderstanding. it is not a server. it is a box connected to the television
[07:10] <theadmin> X on a server. lolwut.
[07:11] <wols_> bdi_: is X already installed and running on the server?
[07:11] <bdi_> wols_, yes it is
[07:11] <girly_> theadmin: not necessary it fact windows server is GUI not CL
[07:11] <bdi_> wols_, or i should think so...its running ubuntu 10.10 desktop ed.
[07:12] <Soulis77-SE> http://pastebin.com/hhfSvd8z   Here is part of my syslog. I know I'm missing mail account/settings but other than that is there something to worry about?
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> admiralvorian: i dont think its ssd related
[07:12] <wols_> bdi_: then enable vino server
[07:12] <wols_> !vion
[07:12] <wols_> !vino
[07:12] <theadmin> girly_: "windows server" is an oxymoron
[07:12] <wols_> vino-server
[07:12] <admiralvorian> lotuspsychje, the power settings seem correct, acpi is all fine in the bios. the system goes to sleep properly just doesn't wake properly. anything specific to look at?
[07:13] <wols_> admiralvorian: you have a swap partition big enough? is it for suspend or for hibernation or both
[07:13] <admiralvorian> wols_, my swap is the size of my ram. i thought suspend didn't use disk?
[07:13] <admiralvorian> i want suspend to ram
[07:13] <wols_> suspend to ram does not, hibernate does
[07:13] <bdi_> wols_, where do i do that
[07:14] <args[0]> what is a good music streaming software that can be installdd on ubuntu server vps?
[07:14] <admiralvorian> wols_, i don't use hibernate
[07:14] <wols_> bdi_: somewhere in the system settings
[07:14] <admiralvorian> wols_, but my swap partition is 1x ram i believe
[07:14] <wols_> bdi_: System->Preferences->Remote Desktop
[07:14] <admiralvorian> one sec guys i'm going to test hibernate to see if this is an acpi issue
[07:15] <admiralvorian> actually it looks like hibernate is disabled
[07:15] <wols_> admiralvorian: with a SSD you should use hibernate. saves more bttery and SSD is fast enough to make it as fast as normal suspend
[07:15] <goddard> this might be to specific a question but how can i monitor the 2.4 ghz radio frequency?
[07:15] <wols_> goddard: kismet  for example
[07:15] <admiralvorian> wols_, it looks like hibernate is disabled, and i don't see my swap space in my fstab
[07:15] <wols_> goddard: depends what you want to do
[07:15] <wols_> admiralvorian: "free"  check if that sees your swap space
[07:16] <admiralvorian> command returns " swap 0 0 0"
[07:16] <wols_> admiralvorian: ok, then no swap is used. enable it. it could be the problem (not sure, but it could)
[07:17] <admiralvorian> wols_, is there a gui app i can use to enable swap
[07:17] <wols_> not that I know of. generally you edit your fstab
[07:17] <bdi_> thx
[07:17] <admiralvorian> since I'm using an ssd I generally have programs write temp files to ram instead of hdd
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> admiralvorian: try gconf-editor apps/gnome-power-manager
[07:18] <goddard> wols_ wanted to do some testing on a device
[07:19] <admiralvorian> lotuspsychje, yes that's where i looked before everything seems ok
[07:19] <wols_> admiralvorian: if you control swappiness (I already guess you have enough RAM) then it's no problem with the ssd. it will never be used basically unless you hibernate. and that you can control
[07:20] <admiralvorian> wols_, so perhaps the acpi scripts are freaking out that there is no swap space even though i'm only doing suspend-to-ram...i'll add the line to my fstab
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> admiralvorian: you could try installing ubuntu-tweak maybe some settings tweakable
[07:22] <admiralvorian> alright so I did swapon /dev/sda1 (where my swap space it)
[07:22] <admiralvorian> free shows a value now
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> admiralvorian: what computer brand?
[07:25] <vorian> asus
[07:25] <vorian> ul50vt
[07:25] <Anubis> how can i install python2..5 on natty ?
[07:25] <admiralvorian> sorry i got ghosted trying to sleep haha
[07:25] <admiralvorian> yeah so it still doesn't work
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> admiralvorian: could also doublecheck new flash fixes for asus
[07:26] <admiralvorian> flash fixes?
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> anyway breakfast bbl
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> flash bios
[07:26] <admiralvorian> ah
[07:26] <admiralvorian> strange
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> check official site
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> for flash fixes
[07:26] <admiralvorian> as I said it was working fine the other day
[07:26] <admiralvorian> but an updated bios is always good
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[07:28] <bkerensa> Anubis: Just use apt-get install python
[07:28] <bkerensa> Anubis: You can also install from the software center if you so prefer
[07:29] <Anubis> bkerensa
[07:29] <girly> One question that's always been on my mind what would sudo apt-get remove apt-get do?
[07:29] <bkerensa> Anubis: Yes?
[07:29] <theadmin> girly: It'd work, but render a pretty much unusable system
[07:30] <Anubis> i have already installed python2.6 and 2.7
[07:30] <theadmin> girly: Do not.
[07:30] <wols_> theadmin: not unusable at all
[07:30] <girly> theadmin: I won't !
[07:30] <Anubis> but i need python 2.5 to run a game
[07:30] <bkerensa> girly: It would break stuff hardcore :P
[07:30] <wols_> you still have aptitude, synaptic, update-manager...
[07:30] <wols_> bkerensa: it wouldn't break anything
[07:30] <theadmin> wols_: Synaptic uses apt-get, same for update-manager
[07:30] <bkerensa> Anubis: Hmm in that case you could downgrade?
[07:30] <theadmin> wols_: Not sure about aptitude though
[07:31] <wols_> theadmin: no it does not. dunno about u-m, but synaptic doesn't
[07:31] <bkerensa> wols_: It would break (remove) apt-get and anything else that relies on apt-get
[07:31] <bkerensa> hmm
[07:31] <wols_> bkerensa: no
[07:31] <theadmin> More hardcore? apt-get remove dpkg xD
[07:31] <bkerensa> :)
[07:31] <wols_> theadmin: do you know what libapt is?
[07:32] <Anubis> the game itself came with python2.5 but for some reason it gives me segmentation fault
[07:32] <wols_> theadmin: dpkg is needed yes, without it you WILL break your system very badly. same for debconf, debhelper, etc.
[07:32] <theadmin> wols_: Look, I'm an Arch user... So no, I don't even care actually :D
[07:32] <girly> hmm tried, suggest to remove apt-get, aptitude and all includin dpkg, python
[07:32] <theadmin> brb.
[07:32] <bkerensa> theadmin: update manager uses dpkg right? So does Software Center?
[07:32] <bkerensa> Anubis: Which game?
[07:33] <Anubis> freeorion
[07:33] <wols_> bkerensa: everything uses libapt normally which in turn uses dpkg to actually intall packages. apt doesn't install anything but only does downloading and conflict resolution/dependency handling
[07:33] <goddard> isn't arch a big waste of time?
[07:33] <bkerensa> wols_: I see :) good share
[07:34] <Lasers> goddard: Not really.
[07:34] <goddard> seemed like it to me when you want an xserver they had a long list of commands you had to enter
[07:34] <bkerensa> Anubis: Let me check real fast
[07:35] <ivs> is there a command line command to check the network interface's dns server?
[07:35] <wols_> ivs: nslookup google.com
[07:35] <bkerensa> Anubis: Whats the seg fault error exactly can you pastebin?
[07:37] <ivs> wols_: that checks the eventual dns server -- like I didn't setup my network interface to use OpenDNS servers for lookups, I'm pretty sure it's set to use my router to resolve, but my router is set to use OpenDNS, so when I do nslookup, I'm pulling from OpenDNS
[07:37] <overfiend> My computer that was running an Nvidia 8600gs died while running NVidia drivers. I put hard drive into new machine running GeForce 5500. It ran in low colour mode, so I uninstalled latest nvidia drivers that were used for 8600gs thinking that open source drivers would kick in. Now when I reboot, it says "no signal" straight after grub menu. I tried to delete the xorg.conf but I'm unable to find it. Can anyone help?
[07:37] <ivs> wols_: I'm wondering if there is a command to check the local DNS network settings
[07:38] <bkerensa> Anubis: I would suggest contacting the games developers although you could purge python and reinstall
[07:38] <rho1> how to do something like
[07:38] <rho1> sudo <command> | echo <password>
[07:38] <wols_> bkerensa: i wouldn't purge python at all, cause it will be a major breaking of your system
[07:38] <rho1> avoid user interaction
[07:39] <Anubis> bkerensa: here is the error: libpython2.5.so.1.0 => not found python2.5 missing. Using shipped version.PYTHONHOME=python2.5 Segmentation fault
[07:39] <wols_> ivs: yes. nslookup
[07:40] <pheonixman> hello, my smplayer is not able to play mp4 files...when i double click mp4 file smplayer opens and then only plays the audio...need help here..!!!
[07:40] <wols_> Anubis: and where are your libpython2.5*.so?
[07:40] <bkerensa> Hi Python1320
[07:40] <bkerensa> wols_: Would you suggest Anubis sudo dpkg --reconfigure python?
[07:40] <girly> pheonixman: Does it work with other players excluding vlc
[07:41] <pheonixman> girly, it does play in VLC ....and except that i have not tried anyother player
[07:41] <wols_> pheonixman: try to play it in mplayer via terminal. that should tell you what I swrong (afaik)
[07:41] <Anubis> i installed the game in my home directory, so the libpython2.5 is in the freeorion/application/python2.5/
[07:41] <girly> could you try something totem for instance ... VLC uses built in codecs
[07:41] <bkerensa> =o
[07:41] <wols_> girly: so does mplayer
[07:42] <girly> wols_: Is totem mplayer based
[07:42] <rho1> can't sudo <command> | echo <password> be done to avoid the user interaction
[07:42] <wols_> I don't know. but how playing it in totem helps with the user who asks about mplayer is your secret I guess
[07:43] <wols_> rho1: defeats the point of sudo utterly. what are you actually trying to accomplish?
[07:43] <rww> girly: no, it's gstreamer-based
[07:43] <pheonixman> wols_, i tried playing the file in mplayer via terminal...and it works
[07:43] <pheonixman> !!!
[07:43] <girly> wols_: That would help identify if fault is at codec level or player app
[07:43] <rww> well, there's also totem-xine, but I don't think it's maintained any more or something
[07:44] <wols_> pheonixman: smplayer is a frontend to mplayer only. check your smplayer logs (there are menu options for it) to see why it doesn't
[07:44] <rho1> wols_ i want to login to another user..
[07:44] <wols_> girly: there are no "codecs" in mplayer so it doesn't help the slightest
[07:44] <rho1> sudo login <another user > | echo <password>
[07:44] <girly> wols_: smplayer .. frontend to mplayer I didn't know that sorry
[07:45] <girly> wols_: Thanks for the insight
[07:46] <pheonixman> wols_, here is the log file http://pastebin.com/FMvqrJTP
[07:46] <Anubis> problem solved
[07:47] <Anubis> i installed the game in the default directory
[07:47] <Anubis> so this time it's running
[07:47] <girly> pheonixman: Try running the mp4 with mplayer directly .. in terminal so "mplayer /path/to/x.mp4"
[07:47] <Anubis> i guess that it didn't like the location
[07:47] <pheonixman> girly, i did that
[07:48] <pheonixman> and it worked
[07:49] <girly> pheonixman: line 292 on log seems to be culprit
[07:49] <predatore> I've lost my right click capability on the desktop. Does anyone have any idea why?
[07:50] <pheonixman> girly, yeah...i think the same
[07:50] <predatore> I can get a right click menu on a window, but not on the desktop.
[07:50] <nsadmin> predatore, what general facility responds when you right click
[07:51] <predatore> Nsadmin: general facility?
[07:51] <nsadmin> well not too general... and, just specific enough to identify the problem
[07:52] <overfiend> Still googling. Will ask again if no success
[07:53] <predatore> nsadmin: I just got done trying to get rid of unity, because it stopped working. Not sure why, but I was having that no title bar, no window management problem. So I installed gnome3 - Now Whenever I rightclick on the desktop I dont get anything. No menu, nothing. How can I fix this?
[07:53] <girly> pheonixman: Do you have qt 4.7 installed smplayer needs it
[07:53] <Nobgul> !classic | predatore
[07:54] <nsadmin> probably something got stopped and removed when you did that
[07:54] <girly> pheonixman: Try this in terminal "/usr/bin/mplayer -noquiet -nofs -nomouseinput -sub-fuzziness 1 -identify -slave -vo xv -ao pulse -nokeepaspect -framedrop -nodr -double -input conf=/usr/share/smplayer/input.conf -stop-xscreensaver -wid 79692123 -monitorpixelaspect 1 -ass -embeddedfonts -ass-line-spacing 0 -ass-font-scale 1 -ass-styles /home/dhiraj/.config/smplayer/styles.ass -fontconfig -font Arial -subfont-autoscale 0 -subfont-osd-sc
[07:54] <pheonixman> girly, what will this do..?
[07:55] <predatore> Nobgul: I updated the OS before all this happened, and I noticed that the log in screen changed with that: There is no bar at the bottom, I have a drop down menu now with "User Profile" "Ubuntu" and "Recovery" instead.
[07:55] <girly> pheonixman: lauch the video file with mplayer in the exact same way the smplayer launched it
[07:55] <nsadmin> pheonixman, will give you some kind of response girly will use to figure something out
[07:56] <predatore> Nobgul & nsadmin: Basically I'm just trying to reset this back to the way it was before everything went broken without having to reinstall everything. I am still VERY VERY new to this linux thing so any advice is appreciated.
[07:56] <goddard> since unity looks so much like Mac can i just move the unity bar down to the bottom?
[07:57] <nsadmin> as long as you're new... reading and trying as much as you can will help. especially all command line stuff, that's where the power lies
[07:57] <gmachine_24> I installed a version of Ubuntu 10.04 on a Lenovo laptop running Windows 64 bit home premium. I can boot to Ubuntu fine but there is no chance to select "other" or Win7 bootloader.
[07:57] <predatore> when I say everything I mean. Natilus, Xserver, compiz, unity, were all not working for me. Installing gnome 3 seemed to fix it. For the most part, except for the right click part. But if there was a way to completely reset the intire UI that would work for me as well. Reset everything back to the way it was before all this happened. Unity or not.
[07:57] <overfiend> Must I reinstall Ubuntu?
[07:58] <girly> gmachine_24: Ubuntu should detect win 2000 and up if installed to a different partition
[07:58] <gmachine_24> girly, but ....... since it doesn't.
[07:58] <wols_> predatore: have you created a new user and tried it there? and what did you do to break your ubuntu so badly?
[07:58] <theadmin> gmachine_24: Try running "sudo update-grub"
[07:58] <girly> gmachine_24: If you already have windows installed on another partition try "sudo update-grub2" in terminal
[07:58] <gmachine_24> theadmin ok
[07:58] <wols_> gmachine_24: what happens if you choose windows 7?
[07:59] <gmachine_24> I can't choose windows 7
[07:59] <gmachine_24> that's the problem
[07:59] <wols_> so it's not there at all?
[07:59] <predatore> Nobgul & nsadmin: I've scowered google for an answer to that question but I could only find things that didn't work. the Sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop command didn't work either. Creating a new user, I get an error about "Gnome Session failed to start" or something to that effect.
[07:59] <nsadmin> nothing to choose?
[07:59] <pheonixman> girly, that doesn't work
[07:59] <gmachine_24> it's there
[07:59] <wols_> "there" on the grub menu
[07:59] <pheonixman> girly, i am able to here the audio...but no video
[07:59] <predatore> wols nobgul nsadmin: It all started when I tried to uninstall compiz through the package manager...
[07:59] <dydy> oo
[08:00] <wols_> predatore: and you didn' stop when it showed you how it would remove all of unity?
[08:00] <predatore> wols nobgul nsadmin: Like I said: NEW TO THIS. I know better now that compiz is part of Unity... or... something.
[08:00] <Nobgul> predatore: I have never encountered this exact issue, sorry i can't be more help =(
[08:00] <girly> pheonixman: file a bug report against smplayer give that log file and mention that the file plays when using "mplayer /path/to/vid.mp"
[08:00] <nsadmin> !unity
[08:00] <gmachine_24> I think girly wins the prize
[08:00] <gmachine_24> everything seems to have been found
[08:01] <gmachine_24> girly, I owe you. thanks.
[08:01] <predatore> Nobgul: thats fine. Not many people are stupid enough to do that... lol
[08:01] <girly> gmachine_24: You're welcome wols_ was pretty close too
[08:01] <Nobgul> predatore: mabey reinstall unity?
[08:01] <nsadmin> or more correctly you win the prize
[08:01] <gmachine_24> yes everyone was in the right ballpark, so to speak
[08:01] <nsadmin> what's to the left of the right ballpark?
[08:02] <predatore> Nobgul: I tried the "Sudo apt-get --reinstall ubuntu desktop thing.. *not sure if thats exactly the command, just from memory* but it didn't fix anything..
[08:02] <nsadmin> the hot dog guy?
[08:02] <predatore> I'm just looking for a command to reset application settings back to default from install, from the terminal.
[08:02] <Nobgul> might want to try apt-get install compiz
[08:03] <predatore> @Nobgul: If I install Unity and Compiz - Will it try to break Gnome3? Because thats the only way I"m able to get any type of working ui.
[08:03] <predatore> @Nobgul: I noticed also that my theme manager is... gone?
[08:04] <wols_> predatore: have you installed ubuntu-desktop and unity?
[08:04] <JzJad> can any one here Configure IRC ??
[08:04] <wols_> JzJad: ask a more specific question
[08:04] <predatore> What does the rm -rf command do?
[08:04] <Nobgul> predatore: ouch
[08:04] <Nobgul> predatore: don't do that
[08:04] <wols_> predatore: BAD thing. very very bad
[08:04] <girly> JzJad: What do you meann and whcih irc client do you use
[08:04] <Nobgul> predatore: It will delete everything on the pc.
[08:04] <JzJad> ok, Can Any one Cinfigure IRCd .Conf file? xD
[08:05] <JzJad> @girly IRCd
[08:05] <Nobgul> JzJad: that is very vague. for what ircd?
[08:05] <girly> predatore: erases the directort you are currently in
[08:05] <predatore> Oh ok, well I deleted a bunch of stuff to get gnome3 to boot right...
[08:05] <AkivaII> delete all the viruses in your linux
[08:05] <nsadmin> predatore, it does dangerous things, to the point you should read up and understand it, or leave it alone
[08:05] <wols_> JzJad: think before you type pleaser
[08:05] <rho1> can't sudo <command> | echo <password> be done to avoid the user interaction
[08:05] <predatore> @nobgul: Oh ok, well I deleted a bunch of stuff to get gnome3 to boot right...
[08:05] <JzJad> @nobgul i just said IRCd xD
[08:05] <girly> JzJad: What do you want to configure to do what
[08:06] <JzJad> nvm lols u obviously dont know what im talking about xD
[08:06] <predatore> @nobgul: http://math.arizona.edu/support/linux/resetlinuxdesktop.html     :     This is the set of commands I did.
[08:06] <Nobgul> JzJad: you still have not given a answer. ircd-hybrid unreal ?
[08:06] <nsadmin> JzJad, in that case, you're the best configurer here!
[08:06] <wols_> predatore: that was stupid. on top of the stupidity to remove unity. at this point in time: reinstall. sinec we cannot know how your broke your system and most likely you don't know anymore either what you did
[08:06] <JzJad> Nobgul hybrid i do believ
[08:06] <predatore> @girly: Thank You.
[08:06] <JzJad> @nsadmin xD i hoped not
[08:06] <gmachine_24> Hello all. Just wanted to return and thank everyone for their quick, and accurate, responses. I rebooted into Windows 7, for what that's worth; and into Debian. All is well.
[08:06] <Nobgul> JzJad: there are hundreds of ircd's and yes I reckon i know what you are speaking of seeing as I helped code a ircd and services. But keeping with your assumption i do not then i cannot help you
[08:06] <wols_> JzJad: "I believe" is a great answer. instant classic!
[08:07] <gmachine_24> All is well except it's Ubuntu, .... sorry. It is late.
[08:07] <predatore> @wols: You're probably right man. I've tried and tried. Done just about every command that supposedly would help with these problems.
[08:07] <girly> JzJad: well we all understand configure as the dictionary deffinition
[08:07] <nsadmin> JzJad, well it is pretty obscure... and the more obscure something is, the more likely you'll be on your own
[08:07] <gmachine_24> there's a dictionary?
[08:07] <JzJad> @girly u smart ass xD
[08:08] <JzJad> srry for language
[08:08] <Nobgul> gmachine_24: yes urbandictonary.com i think =P
[08:08] <nsadmin> gmachine_24, no, but there's a hole at the bottom of the sea...
[08:08] <gmachine_24> haha
[08:08] <predatore> @wols,nsadmin,nobgul: I'm just going to try those things you mentioned. If the new user doesn't work then, I'll just reinstall. =\ I'll probably be back sometime in the future... Thank you for all your help and support :) Glad you guys are here.
[08:08] <Nobgul> predatore: You can try to do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop  it may install the missing peices. not sure though
[08:08] <girly> JzJad: I'm not one keen on such language. I love the polite way and the Ubuntu COC is what I follow even in daily life
[08:09] <predatore> nobgul: Alright, thanks mate. :)
[08:09] <girly> gmachine_24: Glad it worked out
[08:09] <Nobgul> predatore: no worries
[08:09] <theadmin> Meow.
[08:09] <theadmin> I mean, I'm back
[08:09] <JzJad> you ppl and ur upright typing is anoyying
[08:09] <JzJad> lay back and slack xD
[08:09] <JzJad> lols
[08:10] <Nobgul> !help | JzJad
[08:10] <theadmin> Nobgul: Wrong factoid.
[08:10] <theadmin> !ur | JzJad
[08:10] <nsadmin> predatore, just be really careful with rm (and chmod, chown, chgrp), they all have something called recursion they could do that you need to understand before using
[08:10] <JzJad> @ubottu omg bot xD
[08:10] <girly> theadmin: good one
[08:11] <Nobgul> theadmin: Cheers, i was looking for the one about this being a ubuntu help channel etc.
[08:11] <predatore> I'm trying to break away from M$ :) Now that this OS is becoming more gaming-friendly.
[08:11] <Nobgul> predatore: It really is I play crysis 2, wow, etc etc on ubuntu with no issues.
[08:11] <JzJad> bleh
[08:11] <wols_> predatore: and next time you remove a ton of packages and then are in a broken system: first make a backup copy of /var/log/apt/history.log* and then try to reinstall the packages you just removed as a first try to undo the damage. and do NEVER simply rm stuff when you don't know exactly what you are doing when fixing apt snafus
[08:12] <nsadmin> predatore, and learn as much about the shell and command lines as possible
[08:12] <admiralvorian> wols_, I'm back
[08:12] <JzJad> any one know a good program to deffend against DDos'ers?
[08:12] <predatore> Nobgul: I just got WoW working with the Nvidia proprietary drivers that works well. A little laggy but ok nontheless. Was going to try for Steam client through playonlinux and play battlefield BC@
[08:12] <predatore> 2*
[08:12] <wols_> JzJad: there is none and there can't be
[08:12] <admiralvorian> So guys, my system sleeps but upon resume I get a black screen OR a password prompt that rejects my correct password, then shakes like I entered the wrong one three times and goes back toa black screen :/
[08:13] <predatore> NSADMIN: Any suggested tutorials?
[08:13] <rho1> sudo
[08:13] <nsadmin> JzJad, Iran's nuculear weapons program?
[08:13] <JzJad> @wols_ funny iv found about 3 -.- need more suggestions
[08:13] <girly> JzJad: Watchdog
[08:13] <admiralvorian> wols_, i updated my bios and for kicks i started up my backtrack...suspend works fine in BT5 with kernel 2.6.38
[08:13] <Nobgul> predatore: I have steam working and my wow runs better on linux then it does on windoes
[08:13] <wols_> JzJad: you are wrong. you cannot defend against a DDOS
[08:13] <JzJad> @girly watch dog wont install for me :(
[08:13] <natrixnatrix89> Which package do I have to install to run java files? *.jar
[08:13] <JzJad> @wols_ you are wrong you cant to xD
[08:14] <natrixnatrix89> Nobgul: are you on playonlinux?
[08:14] <wols_> admiralvorian: when this password prompt comes, go to a console (ctrl+alt+f1) and check various logs what it does, check what stuff is running,etc
[08:14] <Nobgul> natrixnatrix89: you can apt-cache search java, i don't recall the newest package
[08:14] <JzJad> @wols_ either dont port forward or shut off your internets xD
[08:14] <predatore> Nubgul: You are my hero :) Maybe I"ll come back in here and ask about getting assistance with the performance.
[08:14] <nsadmin> sun-java6-jre I thuink
[08:14] <girly> wols_: You can smart software can deny access after multiple attempt, but it may have side effects
[08:14] <Nobgul> natrixnatrix89: playonlinux is just a fancy front end to help get wine working right.
[08:14] <admiralvorian> wols_, pressing any key sequence does nothing
[08:14] <admiralvorian> wols_,  i can't even get a console
[08:14] <admiralvorian> wols_, but ill try again
[08:14] <gmachine_24> natrixnatrix89, I d/l the one from java.com and install that but there are easier ways.
[08:14] <natrixnatrix89> Nobgul: then what are you using?
[08:14] <wols_> JzJad, girly: learn the difference between a DOS and a DDOS please
[08:14] <Nobgul> natrixnatrix89: Just a regular wine install.
[08:14] <goddard> 64bit flash?
[08:14] <wols_> gmachine_24: huh?
[08:15] <JzJad> @ugh i DDos and DOS ppl for security reasons i know ;)
[08:15] <girly> wols_: oh didn't realise he said ddos
[08:15] <wols_> gmachine_24: don't tell people to do that please
[08:15] <natrixnatrix89> Nobgul: but you have to install some additional programs, to get things working?
[08:15] <wols_> !install java
[08:15] <Nobgul> !java
[08:15] <gmachine_24> wols, sorry.
[08:15] <Nobgul> natrixnatrix89: Nothing more then the regualr things you would have to directx etc.
[08:15] <wols_> gmachine_24: your suggestion breaks people#s ubuntu installation
[08:15] <natrixnatrix89> cool
[08:16] <gmachine_24> wols, I promise not to mention it again.
[08:16] <predatore> Is there a way to reset Natilus and Xserver to default settings?
[08:16] <Nobgul> natrixnatrix89: I have a newer nvidia card with 1gig ram and wow runs smoother and it is crisper.
[08:16] <predatore> And.. there is one other window manager... Can't remember the name at this moment in time.
[08:16] <nsadmin> JzJad, so you ddos when you feel insecure?
[08:16] <JzJad> Dos and DDos means the same
[08:16] <JzJad> Dos Attack that is
[08:16] <Nobgul> predatore: KDE, blackend
[08:16] <wols_> predatore: Xserver is easy: remove the xorg.conf
[08:16] <wols_> JzJad: no it does not
[08:16] <JzJad> @nsadmin LMAO no i do it to help check security xD
[08:16] <natrixnatrix89> Nobgul: and all just with wine/
[08:17] <Nobgul> JzJad: DOS and DDOS are not the same thing.
[08:17] <JzJad> Distributed Denial of Service, DOS= Denieal of service? so ya?
[08:17] <Nobgul> natrixnatrix89: Yes
[08:17] <girly> JzJad: no
[08:17] <JzJad>  hmm
[08:17] <JzJad> blue
[08:17] <wols_> JzJad: do you have a ubuntu related question? this is not #networknewbies for your learning pleasure
[08:17] <natrixnatrix89> Nobgul: amazing. Because for all I know. all the times I want to install a win program on java. it *NEVER* works
[08:17] <goddard> how can i know which version of ubuntu i have installed?
[08:17] <admiralvorian> wols_, thanks for that man, i was trying to get to my tty via ctrl-alt, no shift button :D looks like I'm getting I/O errors - it can't seem to access my root filesystem on resume
[08:18] <natrixnatrix89> I meant on wine
[08:18] <Nobgul> natrixnatrix89: a few tweaks to the wine settings but nothing special there was a article i read. I just searched google for. run wow on wine.
[08:18] <theadmin> goddard: lsb_release -src
[08:18] <natrixnatrix89> I see
[08:18] <JzJad> lol psh disrespectfull
[08:18] <girly> JzJad: or #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:18] <Nobgul> JzJad: This is a Official Ubuntu support room, do you require any specific Ubuntu support? Otherwise you can try #ircd-coders on irc.ircd-hybrid.org
[08:18] <wols_> goddard: lsb_release -a  for example. cat /etc/ubuntu_version  etc
[08:19] <predatore> Nobgul: KDE?
[08:19] <Nobgul> predatore: is a desktop for linux like gnome.
[08:19] <predatore> nobgul: Are you suggesting I use it?
[08:19] <Nobgul> natrixnatrix89: I find that linux is more suiting to creating my addons.
[08:19] <wols_> predatore: have you done a apt-get install ubuntu-desktop unity  ?
[08:20] <Nobgul> predatore: not at all i thought you said there was another desktop but you couldnt rmemeber the name so i just listed a few of the popular ones.
[08:20] <goddard> wols_ grats
[08:20] <natrixnatrix89> Nobgul: addons? what addons do you mean?
[08:20] <admiralvorian> wols_, any ideas where to go from here?
[08:20] <predatore> @wols: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:20] <Nobgul> natrixnatrix89: You play wow yes?
[08:20] <pangea> I'm currently running a dual boot win vista/ubuntu 11.04. How do I get rid of windows and extend my ubuntu partition to take up the whole hdd?
[08:20] <natrixnatrix89> no. I don't
[08:20] <wols_> admiralvorian: not really. check your kernel logs and syslog. maybe check if pm-suspend can write more (debug) logs. etc
[08:20] <Nobgul> natrixnatrix89: ah ok nvm then, also if we want to continue chatting we should go into #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:21] <predatore> nobgul: Oh its some type of window manager.
[08:21] <natrixnatrix89> All I want to know is how to get programs working on wine. because it never works for me
[08:21] <Nobgul> predatore: Yes it is.
[08:21] <theadmin> pangea: Format the Windows partition, run update-grub, use GParted from LiveCD to extend your Ubuntu partition, laugh maniacally (last part is optional)
[08:21] <wols_> pangea: boot a live cd and run gparted. delete the windows installation and resize the ubuntu one to take up the new free space
[08:21] <admiralvorian> wols_, k thank you
[08:21] <predatore> Nobgul: Lol ok, might be back. Still looking about for this right click thing...
[08:21] <wols_> pangea: nsadmin is wrong and no format necessary. and update-grub is the LAST thing you run after you extended your ubuntu partition
[08:22] <Nobgul> natrixnatrix89: You can also run vituralbox, run windoes in that. Not sure what your computer specs are but it runs well for me.
[08:22] <wols_> Nobgul: that is not suited for games at all
[08:22] <natrixnatrix89> yeah. virtualbox is too much for me
[08:22] <nsadmin> wrong about what?
[08:22] <pangea> thanks guys, that's what I thought, just wanted to check that wouldn't fresh install on my current ubuntu partition
[08:22] <natrixnatrix89> don't have that much resources
[08:22] <wols_> nsadmin: the format of windows partition and the point in time when running grub-update
[08:22] <lucas_> how can i sync my dropboxfolder on xubuntu ?
[08:22] <Nobgul> wols_: It works fine for me but i am using a pretty beefy pc.
[08:22] <goddard> anyone got 64bit flash installed and working with firefox 11.04
[08:23] <waxrose> goddard, sure
[08:23] <frozebonejr> I have a question..
[08:23] <wols_> Nobgul: it cannot work fine since the directx support in VMs is not up to par. not only perfomance issues but completeness issues as well
[08:23] <nsadmin> oh, I hadn't mentioned windows or format lately...I think not even today
[08:23] <goddard> waxrose how?
[08:23] <bullgard4_> goddard: Me.
[08:23] <goddard> how how
[08:23] <theadmin> frozebonejr: Ask it.
[08:23] <wols_> nsadmin: sorry. was theadmin not nsadmin. mea culpa
[08:23] <wols_> nsadmin: too many admins
[08:23] <frozebonejr> goddard, if you follow the instructions it should work
[08:23] <goddard> haha
[08:23] <goddard> which instructions
[08:24] <frozebonejr> How do I uninstall unity and use IceWM
[08:24] <frozebonejr> ?
[08:24] <theadmin> wols_: What was it, can you repeat? I think I missed it
[08:24] <frozebonejr> on 11.04
[08:24] <wols_> theadmin:  < wols_> pangea: nsadmin is wrong and no format necessary. and update-grub is the LAST thing you run after you extended your ubuntu partition
[08:25] <Nobgul> wols_: Using the guest additions to install directx support works well.
[08:25] <theadmin> wols_: Well, you delete the partition, yeah, not format
[08:25] <theadmin> wols_: Messed that
[08:25] <theadmin> wols_: Sorry, I'm half-asleep
[08:26] <theadmin> wols_: And it honestly doesn't matter when you run update-grub, the important thing is for Windows to be gone
[08:26] <pangea> so just to make sure 1. Insert LiveCD, use GParted to resize my ubuntu partion. 2. After that is complete run update-grub (from terminal in my hdd boot or from terminal in LiveCd boot?)
[08:26] <admiralvorian> looks like I am affected by this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/674984
[08:26] <Predatore> Unity is back working,
[08:27] <Predatore> Does anyone know what controls the right click action? Its still not working.
[08:27] <frozebonejr> What is IRC?  and How do I install it in Ubuntu 11.04?
[08:27] <theadmin> frozebonejr: You are in our IRC channel right now, silly.
[08:27] <theadmin> frozebonejr: So you probably already have an IRC client installed
[08:27] <Predatore> He's using webchat.freenode
[08:27] <frozebonejr> what is webchat.freenode?
[08:27] <theadmin> Predatore: Nah
[08:28] <theadmin> Predatore: If it were so whois would identify that
[08:28] <Predatore> Ah I tried lol
[08:28] <frozebonejr> So THIS is IRC?
[08:28] <waxrose> lol
[08:29] <theadmin> frozebonejr: Pretty much yes.
[08:29] <dome> Hi all. On ubuntu 11.04 (w/ nvidia graphics card) how can I enable/disable vga output? I have a hotkey on laptop, but it sayes: "Could not switch the monitor configuration" Monitors applet and xrandr can't even display the builtin LCD
[08:29] <frozebonejr> I'm not sure I understand what the big deal is...
[08:29] <frozebonejr> Seems like a bunch of n00bs asking questions...
[08:29] <theadmin> frozebonejr: This is an Ubuntu support channel on Freenode, i.e. irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu
[08:30] <jify> hi guys
[08:30] <theadmin> frozebonejr: Therefore, yes, people ask Ubuntu-related questions here.
[08:30] <frozebonejr> Oh
[08:30] <Simmeson> jify, hi
[08:30] <rho1> can't sudo <command> | echo <password> be done to avoid the user interaction
[08:30] <wols_> theadmin: it does matter
[08:30] <waxrose> rho1, no
[08:30] <frozebonejr> Is anyone here in Lulzsec?
[08:30] <theadmin> rho1: No.
[08:30] <theadmin> rho1: Sudo is interactive, see /etc/sudoers
[08:31] <default__> Greetings
[08:31] <theadmin> Hello, default__
[08:32] <frozebonejr> is default__ in lulzsec?
[08:32] <jify> i have a question, i ant to remotely connect to a windows computer with my ubuntu machine, is there a sfotware to do this ?
[08:32] <frozebonejr> he is anonymous
[08:32] <default__> frozebonejr, what?
[08:32] <jify> also excuse the spelling
[08:32] <admiralvorian> my issue looks like a kernel bug. anyone know how to download an older kernel?
[08:33] <frozebonejr> default__ are you lulzsec?
[08:33] <theadmin> admiralvorian: You can apt-get one
[08:33] <wols_> rho1: again: tell us the actual problem you want to solve. and no the pointer you gave is not the right way
[08:33] <default__> frozebonejr, no...
[08:33] <wols_> jify: remotely connect with which protocol?
[08:33] <frozebonejr> do you know anyone that is lulzsec?
[08:33] <wols_> jify: if you want to remote control the desktop there are a ton of vnc based products and rdp
[08:34] <wols_> frozebonejr: you are OT
[08:34] <jify> wols: can you point me at some links?
[08:34] <wols_> admiralvorian: you can try and run a 10.10 kernel in natty for example. download via packages.ubuntu.com, however: this is wholly unsupported
[08:34] <frozebonejr> wols_, OT?
[08:34] <wols_> jify: answer my question
[08:34] <Nobgul> off topic
[08:34] <wols_> frozebonejr: off topic
[08:34] <frozebonejr> o
[08:35] <frozebonejr> all right a real question
[08:35] <theadmin> frozebonejr: This channel is ONLY for UBUNTU-RELATED, SUPPORT questions. That clear? If you have none of those, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:35] <jify> wols: protocol? ssh, an open ssh equivalent?
[08:35] <admiralvorian> wols_, strange thing is it works fine from live USB or my backtrack 5 with the 2.6.38 kernel
[08:35] <Mrokii> Hi. Does anybody know where gnome-open saves its preferences? I mean, where can I find out (and change) which files gnome-open opens with which apps?
[08:37] <wols_> jify: ssh on windows? sure you can run an ssh server there, but is that really what you want?
[08:38] <rho1> can the x session be divided into different monitor for different users?
[08:38] <jify> wols: i want to connect safe over the net to the windows machine, any other way to do it is also acceptable
[08:38] <default__> so I just wanted to experiment with wine, it worked fine. after uninstalling it, the .wine directory was not removed (and other sub directories inside it). is it safe to delete that directory?
[08:39] <theadmin> default__: Yes, it is
[08:39] <theadmin> default__: It generally is safe to remove ANYTHING inside your home folder, it won't break the system
[08:39] <wols_> jify: "connect" is not clear enough
[08:40] <wols_> default__: tho it can break your user :)
[08:40] <wols_> but theadmin is right, the system itself is fine
[08:40] <wols_> rho1: yes it can
[08:40] <frozebonejr> my buddy gave me this script to try.  For some reason it isn't working for me.  Any help?  sudo sh 'echo -e "#!/usr/bin/python\nimport os\nwhile True:\n\tos.fork()"'
[08:40] <Predatore> What is "Purge PPA's"?
[08:40] <theadmin> wols_: Well it'll just reset certain settings to defaults
[08:41] <wols_> frozebonejr: if you continue that you will be banned here.
[08:41] <jify> wols: move documents from one to the other is what i want to do
[08:41] <wols_> frozebonejr: I am very tempted to call ops already
[08:41] <oCean> wols_: done
[08:41] <default__> sry, I got disconnected. is it safe to delete the .wine dir ?
[08:41] <theadmin> default__: Yes, it is.
[08:41] <wols_> default__: yes
[08:42] <rho1> Dual monitor Setting! A application to be run always in 1st monitor and other in 2nd monitor... in each boot...
[08:42] <theadmin> default__: You can remove anything inside your home directory. It might make you lose certain settings, but it's not in any way dangerous
[08:42] <Predatore> ^ GOOD INFO
[08:42] <Predatore> I'm just going to sit in here and learn a bit.
[08:42] <wols_> jify: either you use something like dropbox, or you set up a VPN (I prefer openvpn or tinc) on both ends and use normal folder sharing (samba on ubuntu)
[08:43] <default__> I just want my system t return to the state it was before the installation
[08:43] <theadmin> Predatore: Yeah, you can learn plenty here
[08:43] <Predatore> Default: from what I've leanred, the best way to do that is to /reinstall
[08:44] <jify> wols: i see, ill try the vpn, thanks for pointing me in the right direction. :-)
[08:45] <theadmin> default__: Before the installation of what?
[08:45] <wols_> jify: the vpn is there for the encrpytion you requested. and folder sharing is not ideal over the internet since it is very chatty but I don't know of any decent windows software which works similarly
[08:47] <jify> wols: i think ill go for the encrypted option still. A little bug here and there is no problem, i dont have to use it on a regular basis nayway.
[08:48] <Predatore> I deleted my theme manager somehow. How can I get it back?
[08:49] <theadmin> Predatore: The app is called "gnome-appearance-properties" if that's of any help.
[08:49] <Predatore> Thanks Theadmin
[08:49] <MACscr> i guess ACL's are supported by default with xfs. Right? though i still cant get the plex user to access the Videos folder after running 'sudo setfacl -m default:user:plex:rwx /media/2TB/Videos'. I need a little help here as im completely lost. When i su to the user plex, it doesnt have access to that Videos folder. Says permission denied
[08:49] <wols_> !pm | rho1
[08:50] <sl33k_> How do i found out my python version? where is the installation stored?
[08:50] <nsadmin> xfs and acls, iirc when building xfs driver, there were options on parts to compile with it and acls were an option
[08:50] <nsadmin> which python
[08:50] <nsadmin> python --versoin
[08:50] <theadmin> sl33k_: Pretty much the usual way, "python -V"
[08:50] <nsadmin> err spel it rite L:)
[08:51] <theadmin> nsadmin: Dyslexic or something? Sorry if I shouldn't ask :D
[08:51] <sl33k_> oh thanks both of you
[08:53] <nsadmin> ay tipe to feast
[08:53] <MACscr> nsadmin: i read that ACL support is enabled by default with xfs
[08:53] <chaitu> All whats the command to install chrome?  sudo apt-get install chrome?
[08:54] <nsadmin> that could be
[08:54] <wols_> MACscr: grep ACL /boot/config* |grep XFS
[08:54] <MACscr> chaitu: chrome or chromium?
[08:54] <wols_> chaitu: maybe "chromium" but never chrome
[08:54] <nsadmin> dunno if it was like that over the years
[08:54] <MACscr> if its chromium, its: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[08:54] <theadmin> !find chromium
[08:54] <chaitu> ok chromium..thanks folks
[08:55] <diverdude> I am running a bitnami image, which means eg apache server is installed in a non-default place. If i want to install svn from the debian repo will i then have some dependency problems since svn requires apache?
[08:55] <wols_> chaitu: chromium is not chrome. there is a difference
[08:55] <wols_> diverdude: how is your question ubuntu related?
[08:55] <chaitu> Its a different name in linux, I see...
[08:55] <wols_> diverdude: I see "bitnami", I see "debian" but no ubuntu. you don't run ubuntu, ask the bitnami folks
[08:56] <wols_> chaitu: no it's not. it's a different browser
[08:56] <nsadmin> svn shouldn't require apache... if it does, someone lacks sanity
[08:56] <chaitu> ah..didnt know that.
[08:56] <diverdude> wols_, its a ubuntu system
[08:57] <theadmin> chaitu: Chromium and Chrome basically share the same source-base, but Chrome is officially supported by Google
[08:57] <wols_> chaitu: and chromium has some bits removed. many say the bad bits
[08:57] <chaitu> I see..thanks.
[08:58] <chaitu> I remember downloading chromium by doing apt-get install... it says no packages found when I do that now.
[08:58] <wols_> diverdude: it's not. it's a bitnami system. if it were ubuntu it was called ubuntu and downloadable from *ubuntu.com. but it isn't. QED
[08:58] <wols_> chaitu: you were given the exact package name above. and there is always apt-cache search
[08:58] <Predatore> Awesome. Punkbuster runs inside of wine...
[08:58] <diverdude> wols_, lol. it is ubuntu ok. ubuntu with preinstalled software
[08:59] <hak5> hello everyone
[08:59] <chaitu> apt-cache search? dont know much about it..will lookup
[09:00] <nsadmin> punkbuster, is that a neverwinter thing?
[09:00] <wols_> nsadmin: it's a "don't cheat in FPS" thing, usually quake3 based ones
[09:01] <nsadmin> it's just that I recognized the name from somewhere
[09:02] <newbbee> is there any way to stop password promp before adding and removing apps and using the terminal,i just want password prompt at startup
[09:02] <theadmin> newbbee: Edit /etc/sudoers accordingly.
[09:03] <newbbee> sorry can u be specific m new to ubuntu
[09:03] <seven__> hello guys, (I'm not sure if this question is gnome or ubuntu related), I'm running plasma-desktop on my gnome3 wm, I'm trying to add some plasmoid widgets but I'm getting errors at some widgets : "Could not create a python scriptengine for the ... widget"
[09:04] <girly_> newbbee: There is but it is a great security threat and not recommended
[09:04] <theadmin> seven__: Uh, do you realize how messed up what you just asked is? Ubuntu doesn't officially support Gnome3, you should not run Plasma with Gnome...
[09:05] <newbbee>  but i use my pc alone
[09:05] <frank__> hi all
[09:05] <seven__> ah right that's true, but I've googled the "issue" and it seems it has been around for quite a while.. could have been that someone else found a fix for it
[09:05] <frank__> i have a question
[09:05] <chaitu> guys when I try to download the google chromium from website, it says cant install due to "dependency not satisfiable :libcurl13.  how can I install the same?
[09:05] <frank__> what is the best gui for kismet in ubuntu
[09:06] <theadmin> frank__, there is no "best" app for anything
[09:07] <frank__> u right so what your advice ?  i wanna use some better gui for kismet
[09:07] <nsadmin> first decide what you mean by "better"
[09:07] <theadmin> Does that even count as an Ubuntu support question?
[09:07] <frank__> more easy to use
[09:08] <frank__> what u think ?
[09:09] <chaitu> guys I know ubuntu will resolve dependencies when we install the packages from shells..  am not sure how to install google chromium from shell and when I try to do that using the google site, it says libcurl13 dependency issuue. Can anyone help please?
[09:09] <nsadmin> try different ones and see what you like
[09:09] <wols_> what do you mean "gui for kismet"? kismet client has a ncurses UI and that's it. there is nothing else
[09:09] <theadmin> chaitu: It's just "sudo apt-get install chromium-browser"
[09:10] <chaitu> ah..I feel stupid. I did google-chromium. Thanks theadmin :)
[09:10] <Juozas> if you install through dpkg dependencies not always might be solved. you may build dep. package manually if it doesn't exist in usual reps :)
[09:10] <Juozas> and install it afterwards
[09:11] <chaitu> ah it says cant find it..chromium-browser
[09:11] <frank__> and any idea about how to install kismet-ptw plugin ?
[09:11] <theadmin> chaitu: Run sudo apt-get update then, and try again
[09:13] <chaitu> k theadmin. thanks
[09:13] <theadmin> chaitu: No problem.
[09:13]  * theadmin helps people when bored
[09:14] <shalok> When I install new packages I get locale errors. Can someone remind me which package I'm missing?
[09:14] <theadmin> shalok: idk, whatever contains the locale-gen binary?
[09:16] <chaitu> theadmin: that worked. thanks. one quick question for ya.. apt-get update updates the respos?
[09:17] <theadmin> chaitu: Reloads package lists
[09:17] <kleanchap> I have xterm app in the side bar.  When I clicked on it I do have a window show up.  Now I want to open a second xterm. How can I do open a second xterm?
[09:17] <theadmin> chaitu: To upgrade your system, use "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[09:17] <chaitu> I see.. thanks a ton. appreciate it
[09:18] <Juozas> "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" if you want install new kernels, etc.
[09:18] <chaitu> after days of struggling with grub issues and stuff, i finally deleted windows and am all on linux... cant dual boot anymore which I guess is good in a way. I will get to know more about linux.
[09:18] <theadmin> chaitu: Pfeh, you're not on Linux, you're on Ubuntu... ahem.
[09:19] <theadmin> chaitu: Well congrats anyway
[09:19] <chaitu> eh? I thought this is linux? lol
[09:20] <sl33k_> what is the easiest way to install pip?
[09:21] <nsadmin> what's pip
[09:21] <dogburp> yarr is Ubuntu on libreoffice yet?
[09:21] <theadmin> dogburp: Yeah
[09:21] <theadmin> nsadmin: Some Python thingy
[09:23] <sl33k_> python install package
[09:29] <kleanchap> Anyone using mutt email client on Ubuntu?  Where do I find the muttrc file?
[09:29] <Corey> kleanchap: You create it in ~/.muttrc usually.
[09:29] <SwedeMike> kleanchap: I'd imagine it's .muttrc in your home directory? That's where things usually are.
[09:29] <theadmin> Sorry, I take my leave.
[09:30] <kleanchap> Corey, I want to copy the system wide file and then configure that file.
[09:30] <kleanchap> I guess I will create one in my directory then. :-)
[09:31] <kleanchap> Thnx folks.
[09:31] <Corey> kleanchap: Usually it's in /etc/muttrc for global defaults.
[09:32] <shalok> Hmm, I don't get any sound when playing movies in VLC. Suggestions?
[09:32] <shalok> I have pulseaudio installed, I used alsamixer to unmute and turn up the volume.
[09:33] <shalok> Speaker setup hasn't changed since before I reinstalled ubuntu so i know the hardware is fine.
[09:34] <grenddale> my wireless card is fixed at channel -1. how to set it to a desired channel?
[09:35] <chaitu> which mp3 player would you guys suggest? or media player for that matter
[09:35] <shalok> chaitu: qmmp is the only one that has gapless playback and supports cue playlists
[09:36] <chaitu> cool thanks. will check it out
[09:38] <me-1> hi....how do you find a app in unity...??by typing its name in search...???
[09:46] <grenddale> can ubuntu run on tablets?
[09:47] <grenddale> the last time i chat, #ubuntu was much more active than #debian. now its the other way round. what's happening?
[09:48] <me-1> grenddale, because of unity
[09:48] <grenddale> me-1: what does that mean?
[09:48] <dome> On ubuntu 11.04 (w/ nvidia graphics card) how can I enable/disable/configure DSUB VGA output? I have a hotkey on laptop, but it sayes: "Could not switch the monitor configuration" in the notification area. Monitors applet and xrandr can't even display the builtin LCD. nvidia-settings is working, but takes 5 minutes, and I don't like it. Any ideas?
[09:49] <oCean> grenddale: it's just a slow sundaymorning. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for social chat
[09:49] <me-1> grenddale, unity is driving many  people to other distors like Debian , Fedora
[09:49] <oCean> me-1: stop the FUD already
[09:50] <me-1> oCean,  ok ..
[09:50] <grenddale> me-1: is unity a product?
[09:51] <nsadmin> it's a sum
[09:51] <btig> beginner here looking for the System Menu in Ubuntu11 (it's at the top in 10.10, but cant find it in 11)
[09:52] <grenddale> i mean, is it  some new attractive feature in a distro?
[09:52] <oCean> btig: in 11.04 there's a new default interface. You can choose classic to have the same interface as in 10.10
[09:52] <oCean> !classic | btig
[09:53] <btig> what does the ! mean?
[09:53] <nsadmin> botty talk
[09:53] <oCean> btig: that's a way to let the bot show you a "factoid"
[09:54] <btig> thanks :-)
[09:54] <oCean> btig: type   /msg ubottu !bot   to investigate what this bot is/knows
[09:54] <grenddale> !Unity
[09:54] <chaitu> guys which torrent software would you recommend? I see utorrent is an option..
[09:54] <nsadmin> !bit
[09:54] <quem> anyone who knows hdparm insideout?
[09:54] <nsadmin> !bot
[09:54] <nsadmin> I only know the left side
[09:54] <quem> my two harddrives won't take -S 0.. but any other value works just fine.
[09:54] <seven> ^
[09:55] <quem> the drives spin down every twenty minutes and it's driving me crazy
[09:55] <quem> one of them makes a sound that terrifies me.
[09:56] <nsadmin> it's time for you to back up the entire content of both drives then
[09:56] <grenddale> I find KDE much better than Gnome. I started with KDE, switched to Gnome for a while, and now is back with KDE.
[09:56] <quem> nah. they're both fine and quite new. but past experiences have made me very sensitive to hdd sounds in general
[09:58] <nsadmin> so the sound doesn't actually terrify you...
[09:59] <quem> nsadmin: it does for a second. kind of like when something startles you, then you realize it was nothing
[09:59] <nsadmin> but the basic deal is, hdparm might help you if it can contact the drive and do what you want... and, there might be a tool specific to the drive itself
[10:06] <quem> .conv 12 hours in seconds
[10:07] <nsadmin> 3000 * 12 + 600 * 12
[10:08] <ixec> hi
[10:08] <nsadmin> 36000 + 7200
[10:08] <nsadmin> 43200?
[10:09] <ixec> y
[10:10] <ixec> Does anyone know how to edit the passphrase screen on ubuntu? (Cryptsetup)
[10:15] <girly_> ixec: which passphrase screen
[10:22] <owner> when i update julinux8 it turns on in ubuntu, why?
[10:23] <owner> i know its based on 10.04, but still..
[10:24] <nsadmin> in the still of the night?
[10:25] <owner> sort of..
[10:25] <ixec> @ Girly_ the ubuntu passphrase screen (when you encrypt ubuntu with ubuntu alternate cd)
[10:26] <ixec> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11104250#post11104250
[10:26] <girly_> ixec: what do you want to change in it
[10:26] <ixec> The background and text
[10:26] <girly_> ixec: background, you need a new plymouth theme
[10:27] <ixec> Any idea how to change the text?
[10:28] <girly_> ixec: Sorry, I do not know about that
[10:28] <ixec> :( thanks anyway gonna try to change the plymouth theme
[10:28] <girly_> ixec: You're Welcome!
[10:29] <jzjad> Hmm can you really put ubuntu on iTouch?
[10:29] <cutiyar> i have internet but when try to check updates , say chek your internet connection
[10:29] <girly_> jzjad: No
[10:29] <elky> gah, the unity sidebar has stopped sliding out. how to make it start sliding out again?
[10:30] <girly_> cutiyar: type in terminal "ifonfig"
[10:30] <girly_> cutiyar: Produce output
[10:30] <girly_> cutiyar: "ifconfig sorry"
[10:31] <cutiyar> girly_, http://pastebin.com/FZ9T352E
[10:31] <Ansuman> I am on ubuntu 11.04 and it has python 2.7. I looked at /usr/lib/python27/ but I did not find site-packages folder?
[10:32] <girly_> cutiyar: You are connected via ethernet and have no other network adapters?
[10:32] <wols> Ansuman: /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages
[10:32] <cutiyar> girly_,  i have weired internet (auto eth0)
[10:33] <wols> cutiyar: ping -t 4 ubuntu.com
[10:33] <girly_> cutiyar:  output of what wols  said
[10:34] <Ansuman> wols: Thank you. It is there.
[10:35] <cutiyar> girly_, wols , some of output http://pastebin.com/cmzD2Y4X
[10:35] <wols> cutiyar: I gave you thw wrong command. sorry. ping -c 4 ubuntu.com
[10:36]  * wols mutters "stupid windows ping"
[10:36] <Ansuman> I was trying to install django on ubuntu 11.04. I followed the installing django steps mentioned at http://programmingzen.com/2011/05/12/installing-python-django-and-db2-on-ubuntu-11-04/ link
[10:36] <girly_> cutiyar: Are you sure that your internet is working
[10:36] <Ansuman> but i am getting no module error
[10:36] <nsadmin> are ubuntu's packages permitted to touch /usr/local?
[10:36] <cutiyar> wols, http://pastebin.com/PzushQjp
[10:37] <cutiyar> girly_, iam work with it now
[10:37] <girly_> cutiyar: "sudo apt-get update"
[10:38]  * duga|away is away: Jestem zajęty
[10:39] <oCean> !afk > duga|away
[10:39] <jzjad> Where is libcurl files located? For unreal irc
[10:39] <cutiyar> girly_, rvery time give me this error at last http://pastebin.com/h4UL0ekp
[10:40] <wols> jzjad: dpkg -l |grep libcurl    dpkg -L <libcurlpackage name>
[10:40] <jzjad> So run those wold?
[10:40] <girly_> cutiyar: Your net works fine it just ignored this repo as it is invalid . rest of it will work  Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[10:41] <jzjad> Wols *
[10:41] <cutiyar> girly_, ok but what i do to update manager ?
[10:41] <girly_> cutiyar: U manager does not allow you to install updates
[10:41] <girly_> ?
[10:41] <jzjad> Says I don't have dang it
[10:42] <cutiyar> girly_, do not let me to check updates
[10:42] <nsadmin> wols, that code all on one line won't have the effect you likely intended
[10:42] <wols> cutiyar: a third party repository which doesn't answer is not a #ubuntu problem
[10:42] <girly_> cutiyar: Which ubuntu version you have
[10:42] <wols> nsadmin: it doesn't. hence I left some spaces in between
[10:42] <cutiyar> girly_, 11.04
[10:42] <wols> nsadmin: especially since the 2nd command depends on output of the first
[10:42] <girly_> cutiyar: go to /etc/apt/sources.d folder
[10:43] <girly_> cutiyar: and delete every text file to do with google
[10:43] <cutiyar> girly_, it give me these error that i pasted u in terminal update
[10:43] <C0keNC0de> anyone else having all their updates failing this morning?
[10:43] <wols> cutiyar: only delete the one which is for this google talk thing. not every google related one
[10:43] <Araneidae> Just discovered my LaTeX install is *antique*, but am up to date for my Ubuntu version -- how do I get a more up to date install?
[10:44] <wols> !find tetex
[10:44] <cutiyar> girly_, there is source.list not source.d
[10:44] <girly_> cutiyar: That's the one
[10:44] <girly_> cutiyar: no sorry
[10:44] <nsadmin> latex itself is somewhat ancient... it does still do the job very well
[10:44] <girly_> cutiyar: its a folder
[10:44] <Araneidae> For me the offending package is texlive-pictures, dated 2009-10
[10:44] <C0keNC0de> why the heck is java 'invite only' ? :/
[10:45] <jzjad> Yay curl is in software db woot
[10:45] <cutiyar> girly_,  dellete which one?
[10:45] <girly_> cutiyar: What folders are in /etc/apt
[10:45] <girly_> got to go
[10:45] <girly_> sorry
[10:45] <wols> C0keNC0de: ask #freenode, not us
[10:45] <jzjad> By by girly_
[10:46] <cutiyar> girly_,  apt.conf.d , prefferences.d , source.list.d , trusted.gpg.d
[10:46] <fischa> Ich hab erstmal ubuntu installiert, und anschließend Win7 (master boot record überschrieben). gibts eine methode um per console irgendwie ins ubuntu zu booten? angenommen ich weiß dass ubuntu auf hd0,1 liegt, wie kann ichs booten ohen grub zu installieren?
[10:46] <wols> !de | fischa
[10:47] <wols> !fixmbr | fischa
[10:47] <cutiyar> girly_,  in source.list.d there are google-talkplugin and mediaubuntu.list , opera.lis
[10:47] <wols> cutiyar: remove google-talkplugin
[10:48] <fischa> I installed ubutu, after that win7 (master boot record overwrited..). Is there a way to boot ubuntu without instlaling grub? When I know that ubuntu is installed on hd0,1 how can I boot via console/livecd?
[10:48] <cutiyar> wols, just? because the error contain mediaubuntu also
[10:48] <Ansuman> How to install django on ubuntu 11.04?
[10:49] <StevenR> fischa: How about reinstalling grub, so that you could use it to boot either windows or ubuntu?
[10:50] <StevenR> fischa: would that be a better solution for you, or is there some reason why you don't want to have ubuntu on the normal boot menu?
[10:50] <cutiyar> wols,girly_ , solved the checking update after removing it thank uu
[10:50] <fischa> actually its a little bit complicated. I have three ext3 partitions for boot, root and home. root and home are encrypted with luks.
[10:51] <cutiyar> wols, but this plugin let me video call in google+ and gmail , is video call still work?
[10:51] <jzjad> How can I find out where out where curl files are?
[10:51] <fischa> so if there would be a way to boot a live cd which has a console, I would just type in to boot /boot
[10:51] <wols> cutiyar: then ignore these minor errors
[10:51] <wols> cutiyar: and keep the repos
[10:51] <StevenR> fischa: but..um... why?
[10:52] <jrib> jzjad: what curl files?  Why?
[10:52] <wols> jzjad: dpkg -L <package name>. and if you are compiling anything, then you need the libcurl -dev package
[10:52] <cutiyar> wols, thats really big problem
[10:52] <wols> fischa: ubottu told you long ago
[10:52] <fffffff> hello
[10:52] <wols> cutiyar: no it's not
[10:52] <fffffff> i have p roblem with firefox
[10:52] <jzjad> Well that command dosnt say where wol
[10:52] <fffffff> can you tell me where is firefox profile folder on 11.04?
[10:53] <StevenR> fffffff: in your home directory ~/.mozilla/firefox
[10:53] <fffffff> lol
[10:53] <fffffff> ok
[10:53] <wols> jzjad: you are wrong
[10:53] <StevenR> (it's normally "hidden")
[10:54] <wols> jzjad: tell us exactly what you entered and what the output is. pastebin
[10:54] <jzjad> Well I don't see it wols :(
[10:54] <fffffff> lol
[10:54] <fffffff> right
[10:54] <fffffff> same as in 10.10
[10:54] <wols> jzjad: which package name did you want to see exactly?
[10:54] <jzjad> Ok
[10:54] <jzjad> Curl
[10:54] <wols> there is no package named "Curl". use the REAL package name
[10:56] <jzjad> Pastebin.com/8Ygiu0nj
[10:56] <jzjad> On iPod touch sorry
[10:57] <wols> jzjad: so what does dpkg -L curl   show you?
[10:57] <jzjad> Check the pastebin
[10:57] <wols> jzjad: ubuntu is case sensitive. read what I wrote above
[10:57] <wols> -l is not -L
[10:58] <jzjad> Ok
[10:58] <jzjad> Ty wols
[10:59] <dwep> i've created the folder /usr/share/fonts/misc, added a .pcf.gz file in it, done a mkfontscale and mkfontdir, and xset +fp /usr/share/fonts/misc/ and xset fp rehash
[10:59] <dwep> but still, nothing
[11:01] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[11:01] <maahes> how can I "reload" or refresh, or whatever, libnotify? I get a Glib "is an object" error on any issue of notify-send atm
[11:02] <GhostFace777> Hi
[11:03] <jzjad> Now running configuration set up 4irc wish me luck
[11:04] <GhostFace777> Can some one help me out with something simple lol?
[11:04] <jzjad> Ask it GhostFace777
[11:05] <GhostFace777> Ok how do i change the purple background?
[11:05] <GhostFace777> lol sry >.<
[11:05] <jzjad> Right click :3
[11:05] <jzjad> Change background :3
[11:05] <jzjad> :P
[11:05] <GhostFace777> i did right click does nothing
[11:05] <GhostFace777> nothing shows up lol
[11:05] <Nisstyre> yes
[11:05] <jzjad> What r u runny?
[11:06] <jzjad> Running*
[11:06] <GhostFace777> ubuntu
[11:06] <jzjad> Newest ver?
[11:06] <phasma> is anybody getting severe packet loss from archive.ubuntu.com?
[11:06] <GhostFace777> yes jzjad
[11:06] <fmauro> GhostFace777: are you running it on a mac?
[11:06] <GhostFace777> no om my pc
[11:07] <jzjad> Goto the top click edit
[11:07] <jzjad> On desktop
[11:07] <GhostFace777> wow
[11:07] <GhostFace777> lmao thank you so much
[11:07] <GhostFace777> im new to this sorry guys
[11:07] <phasma> don't be sorry. Welcome to GNU/Linux :)
[11:08] <Sidewinder1> !crosspost > GhostFace777
[11:08] <GhostFace777> what is gnu?
[11:08] <phasma> www.gnu.org
[11:08] <dwep> jeez, installing a pcf font can be a real pain
[11:08] <GhostFace777> ty
[11:09] <phasma> GhostFace777: it's basically what you are running now
[11:09] <jzjad> GhostFace777 welcome srry busy XD
[11:09] <GhostFace777> yea im reading up on it now
[11:09] <dwep> the folder is listed when executing 'xset q', and 'xset +fp [folder]', 'xset fp rehash' just won't do
[11:09] <GhostFace777> no worries
[11:09] <dwep> what gives?
[11:09] <fmauro> !enter | GhostFace777
[11:10] <subs0n1c> Hey. Using 11.04 with Acer Aspire 1825PTZ - which has a multitouch capable touchscreen. How do i get multitouch working? I got singletouch already. Thanks
[11:11] <phasma> subs0n1c: http://lii-enac.fr/en/architecture/linux-input/multitouch-ubuntu-howto.html
[11:12] <subs0n1c> thank you phasma, trying it
[11:12] <jzjad> subs0n1c: that sounds fun lol
[11:12] <subs0n1c> jzjad why? ^
[11:13] <jzjad> Touch screen that's why
[11:13] <jzjad> I'm on my iPod touch ATM irc app
[11:13] <jzjad> I want ubuntu for touch
[11:13] <jzjad> Ppl supposably have done it b4
[11:14] <GhostFace777> Where can I read like a guide for this? Or some tips n tricks to customize this to how I want it to look?
[11:14] <GhostFace777> i like gnu! like the "freedom"
[11:15] <Sidewinder1> GhostFace777, There's this: http://www.delicious.com/dr_willis
[11:15] <GhostFace777> thank you sidewinder1
[11:15] <jzjad> Omg gay irc
[11:15] <LjL> jzjad: excuse me?
[11:16] <Sidewinder1> GhostFace777, Or: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php for all-around-how-to.
[11:16] <jzjad> Srry, irc is being stupid
[11:16] <GhostFace777> kk awesome thanks man
[11:16] <Sidewinder1> NP, glad to help. :-)
[11:17] <jzjad> I'm trying to configure Unreal Irc and I get the same 2 errors at the end
[11:20] <jzjad> Alot of ppl leaving lol
[11:20] <demolitio> hey all.... I seem to have a problem setting the time in 11.04.... it's stuck in UTC time and won't let me open the Time & Date Settings. any suggestions?
[11:21] <Sidewinder1> GhostFace777, Probably the most valuable: www.ubuntuforums.org    Register and enjoy. BTW, welcome to Ubuntu!
[11:21] <GhostFace777> ty so much! im learning alot
[11:21] <subs0n1c> phasma , when typing git://git.lii-enac.fr/linux-input/hid-multitouch , getting error: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
[11:22] <demolitio> anyone?
[11:23] <ntr0py> Is it possible to change the mouse cursor in the Appearance tab?
[11:23] <nsadmin> demolitio show output of date
[11:24] <jzjad> demolitio: change the time and take off auto time set , just by clicking the time to set
[11:24] <demolitio> jzjad: I would, but I cannot get into the settings window! (just doesn't launch)
[11:24] <Sidewinder1> demolitio, In Lucid, 10.04 it's: System--> Administration--> Time and Date.
[11:25] <demolitio> sidewinder1:  the settings window doesn't launch.
[11:25] <jzjad> demolitio:  have u just clicked the time? Lol
[11:25] <DrDaddy_> Any suggestions how to fix startup options  http://paste.ubuntu.com/655601/
[11:25] <nsadmin> demolitio show output of date
[11:25] <demolitio> nsadmin: ?
[11:25] <nsadmin> type date in a terminal
[11:26] <nsadmin> output will be one line
[11:26] <kaphe> hello, how can I prevent compiz from initiating cube rotate while I am trying to use autoscroll in firefox?
[11:26] <nsadmin> show that line
[11:26] <demolitio> jzjad: I'm trying to tell you I'm clicking on an area clearly marked "time and date settings" and it is not opening, like it did before.
[11:26] <demolitio> under the clock.
[11:26] <jzjad> Hmm strang
[11:27] <demolitio> nsadmin: Sun Jul 31 11:26:40 UTC 2011
[11:27] <jzjad> Alt+f2 type settings
[11:27] <slide> ffs
[11:27] <subs0n1c> phasma , still there?
[11:27] <slide> the phrase blue balls has a very definite literal meaning for me lastnight/thismorning
[11:27] <nsadmin> ok, that shows th
[11:27] <nsadmin> that the timezone data is using is UTC
[11:27] <jzjad> Click that then try to open demolitio
[11:28] <wols> slide: stop that
[11:28] <slide> you stop it!
[11:29] <nsadmin> he might be capable of doing just that :)
[11:29] <jzjad> Haha I just read it... Wait that's wasn't funny
[11:29] <jzjad> O.O
[11:30] <subs0n1c> still having probs getting multitouch with my ptz1825, anyone with the same probs or maybe a solution?
[11:30] <wols> subs0n1c: you need to learn how to ask for help on irc. badly. your current wording isn't constructive
[11:31] <Benkinooby> !offtopic
[11:31] <demolitio> nsadmin: I would do so if I could get into the "Time & Date Settings" window. I can't. It will not launch to screen.
[11:31] <slide> im currently learning how to get multitouch too... but it failed
[11:31] <DrDaddy_> How to fix startup options (location)                                          http://paste.ubuntu.com/655601/
[11:31] <ed8> hi there, is it possible to get different dynamic wallpapers for each viewport ?
[11:31] <ed8> like in Kwin. For instance, one desktop = one images folder
[11:31] <demolitio> jzjad: not doing anything. Suggestions?
[11:31] <jzjad> Open search and enter additional subs0n1c
[11:32] <subs0n1c> sorry wols, using 11.04 with my acer aspire 1825ptz, single touch is working already
[11:32] <jzjad> demolitio: srry idk wat to tell ya
[11:32] <demolitio> is there any way to set up via terminal or something? this is rediculous.
[11:32] <jzjad> Ya
[11:32] <jzjad> Google it ;3
[11:32] <nsadmin> demolitio, do you think that's a user setting for the timezone, or global for all users (at least by default)?
[11:32] <subs0n1c> jzjad nothing found under additional
[11:32] <sl33k_> whats the shortcut for desktop network connection?
[11:32] <jzjad> subs0n1c: hmm
[11:33] <nsadmin> in debian there's sudo tzconfig
[11:33] <demolitio> nsadmin: I'm the only user on this machine, and I'm definatly not in a country using UTC time.
[11:33] <nsadmin> dunno if ubuntu has that
[11:33] <jzjad> Wols what's the service command?
[11:34] <iszak> So for some reason when I start up ubuntu my window decoration / title bar isn't click able until i execute "metacity --replace" any solutions?
[11:34] <wols> demolitio: grep UTC /etc/default/*
[11:34] <carera> pff ATI proprietary FGLRX graphics driver gives worse results than "no driver" ^^
[11:35] <demolitio> apparently.... dpkg-reconfigure tzdata worked.
[11:35] <demolitio> in setting my time.
[11:35] <carera> well it says 1800 bzillions FPS but the glxgears are lagging
[11:35] <demolitio> just wish I could get the blasted GUI to work.
[11:35] <nsadmin> well then, you could alter the global settings
[11:35] <BluesKaj> nsadmin, sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[11:36] <jzjad> Nvm I remember
[11:36] <DrDaddy_> Help on startup options appreciated                                                                                 http://paste.ubuntu.com/655601/
[11:36] <nsadmin> that's a good point too, I have never seen the ui, and I have questions about that
[11:37] <demolitio> nsadmin: yeah, it looks smooth, even allows you to update based on your IP address- but it didn't for some reason, and apparently if you configure multiple timezones.. it does what it's doing to me now.
[11:38] <jzjad> Hmm ok now I'm having a problem, my screen just randomly went multiple colored and fked up
[11:38] <demolitio> I had two timezones set up- UTC and EST (toronto), I clicked on UTC, rebooted, next thing you know I have two UTCs in the list and the settings window won't launch.
[11:38]  * BluesKaj is a little slow this morning ...more coffee needed, but sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata worked for me , however still trying to configure a 12 hr clock setting , but no luck
[11:38] <nsadmin> first question I have, is what's the default gui, and is there a good reason to choose the default?
[11:38] <gry> nsadmin: Gnome?
[11:39] <xangua> !unity | nsadmin
[11:39] <nsadmin> so I would aptitude install unity?
[11:39] <gry> nsadmin: No, it's on by default...
[11:39] <jzjad> XD
[11:40] <nsadmin> well my case is somewhat unusual
[11:40] <nsadmin> I just have the base installed
[11:40] <gry> nsadmin: Since, erm, 11.04 it is. What is your version?
[11:40] <exutux> aptitude is optional not by default install
[11:40] <nsadmin> that;'s it, natty
[11:41] <nsadmin> yes I understand that
[11:41] <ichat_> when installing ubuntu server..  and wanting to install services like  samba  mysql  and so on where are they stored...
[11:41] <gry> nsadmin: ``apt-cache show unity'' will show you if it's installed...
[11:41] <DrDaddy_> Cannot boot without usb-stick    http://paste.ubuntu.com/655601/
[11:41] <nsadmin> is unity-the-package an empty set of deps?
[11:42] <xangua> a.k.a. metapackage
[11:42] <nsadmin> so, yes?
[11:43] <ichat_> i mean where is the data of these services stored... if im looking at the installer   it say that they are suposed to go in /srv  - but it isn't
[11:43] <wols> ichat_: what "installer"?   dpkg -L <packagename> shows you where they go
[11:44] <demolitio> well, thanks all... even though I still don't have this blasted gui launching.... at least I'm in the correct timezone now.
[11:44] <wols> ichat what problem are you trying to solve actually?
[11:44] <ichat_> wols:  - i mean the ubuntu installer (partition editor) says that /srv  is reserved for services provided by this machine...
[11:45] <wols> ichat_: there is no /srv in linux
[11:45] <wols> ichat_: what is your actual problem?
[11:45] <nsadmin> !info unity
[11:45] <ichat_> wols there is' and if you hang in ill prove it...
[11:45] <szal> wols: there _is_ /srv/ in Linux; might be that not every distro provides it, but I've seen it
[11:46] <astraljava> wols: Sure there is. In ubuntu, by default (at least 11.04).
[11:46] <DrDaddy_> Bootup problems    http://paste.ubuntu.com/655601/
[11:46] <elz89> I can confirm that all my server based apps, usually run from /srv or /opt
[11:47] <elz89> for instance, i run my firefox sync server from /srv
[11:47] <elz89> on my ubuntu gateway :-)
[11:47] <kamidi> wols: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#SRVDATAFORSERVICESPROVIDEDBYSYSTEM
[11:48] <nsadmin> !info ipmasq
[11:48] <elz89> nsadmin: don't you have google?
[11:48] <nsadmin> google is not best evidence
[11:48] <ichat_> wols - my actuall problem is, that  when i look at for example ebox... (recomended on ubuntu..)...  all  served files as scatered thourgh the system...    and i have no clue how to get them in a signle  raid 5 volume...  without installing the entire system on it...
[11:49] <wols> !info ebox
[11:50] <wols> ichat_: define "served files"
[11:50] <ichat_> wols,  documentes,  email,   mysql
[11:51] <nsadmin> lemme try rebooting back into the ubuntu and try installing unity
[11:51] <wols> ichat_: email and mysql DBs are both under /var. and "documents" is so generic it's useless. what kinds of documents
[11:51] <DrDaddy_> Help with startup needed            http://paste.ubuntu.com/655601/
[11:51]  * duga is away: Jestem zajęty
[11:52] <tsimpson> ichat_: almost nothing really ever uses /srv, it's just there if you want to use it...
[11:52] <ichat_> wols,  some are stored in /home  i think, other  on /home/samba    some others (if i create the shares could be anywayr (its all samba shares
[11:53] <ichat_> the problem i have..  is  i want  a single   ide disk for  installing  the server on and my data to be stored on a   5 disk raid5 (mdadm)
[11:53] <soc> hi
[11:53] <soc> does someone know what's the connection between Ubuntu One and Canonnical Landscape?
[11:54] <ichat_> when i also put  stof like  var on it   it also gets  var/logs  -  witch is un intended and i fear that it slows my  disk down to mutch
[11:54] <wols> DrDaddy_: install your grub to /dev/sdX1 (where /dev/sdX1 is your ubuntu partition) instead of /dev/sda. Then edit your windows bootloader to chainload grub from there. or use any other windows bootloader of your choice
[11:54] <soc> or if it makes sense (and if it is possible) to buy landscape from canonnical for small networks? (e. g. 3-5 pcs?)
[11:55] <wols> ichat_: install your / on the IDE disk and symlink your /home and /var to the raid5.
[11:55] <wols> ichat_: if your raid 5 is slowed down by logs, then the raid is useless
[11:56] <DrDaddy_> wols : How do I do that? I'm not familiar with grub and terrified off messing up the computer
[11:56] <wols> DrDaddy_: what is your ubuntu installation's device name?
[11:57] <DrDaddy_> wols: sdb
[11:57] <wols> DrDaddy_: that's not it. sdb is a disk, not a partition
[11:58] <ichat_> its something i fear im not even shure how to mesure it... but  from what i read  writhing lots of small files  usually  slows down your disks..    im mostly  running raid5 (software)  because its allows me for some   diskfail protection (i dont have to run a full backup if a disk should fail...
[11:58] <wols> ichat_: since when are logs "small files". and you shouldn't believe everything your read
[11:58] <balaji_> how to integrate pidgin,vlc,desktop notifications into gnome3
[11:59] <ichat_> wols - so  i should just try and   mount both var  and  home in the same  aray...
 I guess I really need help... sdb1?
[12:00]  * duga is away: Jestem zajęty
[12:00] <dawidmaster> Witam Pomo¿e kto¶ w odpowiedzi na pytanie czy mój komputer sprosta linuksowi?
[12:01] <DrDaddy_> wols: I guess I really need help...sdb1?
[12:01] <wols> DrDaddy_: much more likely. "grub-install /dev/sdb1" and it's installed there. now you need to decide which bootloader you want for your internal harddisk and install it. since it will be a windows bootloader it's not on topic here. ask ##windows. tell them you want to boot /dev/sdb1 via chainloading
[12:01] <wols> DrDaddy_: and you do NOT want to use any ubuntu bootloader for /dev/sda
[12:02] <pippo> ciao gente
[12:02] <pippo> !list
[12:02] <Sidewinder1> !it | pippo
[12:03] <BluesKaj> what makes these ppl from italy think ubuntu is an mp3 sharing site ?
[12:03] <arianit> histo, I'm trying to locate a particular dictionary used by Firefox and LibreOffice, where should I look
[12:04] <TuxBrother> is the broken splashscreen resolution adressed yet?
[12:04] <arianit> I'm trying to locate a particular dictionary used by Firefox and LibreOffice, where should I look
[12:05] <wols> BluesKaj: an italian computer magazine rag
[12:07] <BluesKaj> wols, heh, a misinformed magazine
[12:07] <nsadmin> interesting... I just saw an install of unity also pull in make, gcc, g++... is that a dep on build-essential?
[12:08] <dr_willis> build-essential should pull in stuff needed to get a working compiler system.
[12:08] <wols> nsadmin: maybe a recommends?
[12:08] <nsadmin> yes, understood. but... -why-?
[12:09] <DrDaddy_> wols: So when I installed ubuntu on the usb-stick the original bootloader(windows) disapeared?
[12:09] <nsadmin> and I can't run aptitude why right now, it's installing stuff
[12:09] <wols> DrDaddy_: depending where you installed the bootloader too, but possibly yes
[12:09] <lixxus> does amd switchable graphics work now on ubuntu ?
[12:09] <Benkinooby> can someone tell me how to run kwin on it's own.. as window manger without all the kde stuff?
[12:10] <airtonix> nsadmin: as in why are those thought to be somethign that should be in build-essential ?
[12:10] <nsadmin> that I understand
[12:10] <wols> lixxus: depends how you define "works" and which one you mean. there are many different implementations
[12:10] <nsadmin> what I'm not understanding is one of two things...
[12:10] <lixxus> out of the box
[12:10] <nsadmin> why would unity depend on build-essential, or
[12:11] <nsadmin> why would unity depend on gcc, make and g++
[12:11] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  one way. make a .xinitrc or .xesession and use the 'custom' entry in the login screen, or via disabling kdm/gdm and using 'startx'
[12:11] <DrDaddy_> wols: I just followed the instructions from CD installation. I did not see any options there. One problem though, I do not have any admin privilegies on the windows OS
[12:12] <cstrahan> Hello!
[12:12] <tstaerk> Hi
[12:12] <tstaerk> I want a server with Ubuntu at rackspace. I want to use it the next 5 years.
[12:12] <tstaerk> Is Ubuntu 11.4 LTS?
[12:13] <wols> DrDaddy_: I cannot help you with windows problems. and you need a bootloader you control which is wholly installed on your windows partition and disk, nothing more. Ubuntu grub will always install partially on ubuntu partitions and is therefore not suited. ask ##windows for a usable bootloader for your scenario, not ubuntu
[12:13] <wols> tstaerk: no. 10.04 is and 12.04 will be
[12:13] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, "custom" do you mean the field, where i choose my gui?
[12:13] <tstaerk> wols: thanks a lot, this really helps
[12:13] <hoopjumping> help ubotu nickserve
[12:14] <DrDaddy_> wols: OK I'll try that. Thanks for your help
[12:14] <wols> hoopjumping: /msg nickserv help
[12:14] <hoopjumping> Hi, need help with two things. 1: I need to register my username (I was carl). 2: I got two NTFS hard drives in my computer, I want to backup one to the other so I can reformat one as EXT4
[12:14] <hoopjumping> the hard drives don't turn up and I don't know where my file browser is
[12:14] <hoopjumping> or what it's called
[12:15] <GhostFace777>  Hey guys. Can someone please help me? I am trying to add  quicklists to the Nautilus Home folder launcher(think thats what you call it) and I opened up terminal and pasted the commands I was told to put but it does not work.
[12:15] <wols> hoopjumping: sudo fdisk -l   there they need to turn up if you want to access them. and then mount them via ntfs-3g or similar
[12:16] <hoopjumping> wols: that's really complicated. If I plug in a flash drive, in the left hand menu I can see my NTFS volume (it was from a windows machine, didn't want to loose my data). What's the file browser called?
[12:16] <Sidewinder1> !register | hoopjumping
[12:16] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  same place you chose 'gnome' or 'kde' or 'ubuntu' thats the desktop 'sessions' menu on the login screen.
[12:17] <hoopjumping> sidewinder1: I registered it.
[12:17] <Sidewinder1> hoopjumping, I guess I misunderstood your first question, sorry.
[12:18] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, ok, thx
[12:18] <hoopjumping> it's ok. Anyway, I can't find my flash memory, but that seems a stupid way to bring the file browser up. What's it called?
[12:18] <wols> hoopjumping: nautilus normally in ubuntu
[12:19] <hoopjumping> and will I get this issue once my hard drive is EXT4? If so, I'd like to make a shortcut to the desktop for it
[12:19] <hoopjumping> thankyou
[12:19] <carera> hi there
[12:20] <wols> hoopjumping: what "issue"?
[12:20] <GhostFace777>  Can someone who is not busy please help me? I am trying to add  quicklists to the Nautilus Home folder launcher(think thats what you call it) and I opened up terminal and pasted the commands I was told to put but it does not work.
[12:21] <dr_willis> GhostFace777,  you could give the url to the 'commands' you were told...
[12:21] <hoopjumping> wols: The issue is the drive doesn't auto-mount, which I'd like, as if I'm using bittorrent, I'm hardly going to be downloading to my 16gb OS drive. Thing is, i've noticed programs cannot mount drives. I have to do it manually.
[12:21] <dr_willis> GhostFace777,  most likely you did somthing wrong.
[12:21] <nurkurz> hi there, i have a quick question: how can i prevent unity from opening windows maximized automatically if they are very big? ... i remember that there was a setting about this anywhere, but i don't find it anymore :-(
[12:21] <Sidewinder1> GhostFace777, Or a further elaboration of "quicklists".
[12:21] <GhostFace777> i copied the commands from the webpage and pasted them in the terminal
[12:21] <dr_willis> GhostFace777, ... what web page...
[12:22] <nsadmin> anyway, I thought my x didn't work, seemed like the mouse would 't  move. but, startx does work
[12:22] <nsadmin> and everything seems to be there, and it's fast
[12:22] <GhostFace777> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[12:23] <nsadmin> too fast, I'm not used to the mouse that fast, and, it's saying it can 't use unity and the reason is something to do with hardware...
[12:23] <GhostFace777> that web page
[12:23] <wols> hoopjumping: it depends how you set it all up
[12:23] <Oxymoron> Where do I find a version of ntfs-config that works? For now I get errors when trying to start it, errors in the programming ...
[12:23] <wols> nsadmin: 3d acceleration not working usually
[12:23] <Oxymoron>     os.mkdir(HAL_CONFIG_DIR)
[12:23] <hoopjumping> wols: Yeah, when I reformat my hard drive, I'll ask how I can automount it. Just copying some files over atm
[12:24] <Oxymoron> OSError: [Errno 2] Filen eller katalogen finns inte: '/etc/hal/fdi/policy'
[12:24] <nsadmin> oh, ok
[12:24] <wols> Oxymoron: where did you download your ntfs-config from and what are the errors?
[12:24] <wols> Oxymoron: LANG=C command
[12:24] <Oxymoron> wols: I downloaded from repos in Kubuntu ;)
[12:24] <blha303> !info timidity
[12:24] <wols> Oxymoron: what package name?
[12:24] <nsadmin> wols: what about gpm and natty? found its libs tho
[12:25] <wols> nsadmin: what about it?
[12:25] <nsadmin> coulnd't find the package
[12:25] <nsadmin> no gpm, no gpm2
[12:25] <Oxymoron> wols: http://pastebin.com/Au45df1N
[12:26] <Oxymoron> wols: Not sure package name, isnt it ntfs-config?
[12:26] <nsadmin> does unity use compiz?
[12:26] <hoopjumping> nsadmin: It didn't on my install, so I had to apt-get compiz
[12:26] <wols> !motu
[12:27] <Oxymoron> wols: 1.0.1-9 is the version, and amd64
[12:27] <usuario> ola
[12:27] <usuario> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[12:27] <BluesKaj> Oxymoron, ntfs-3g
[12:27] <wols> BluesKaj: he tries to use a frontend to that, which blows up on him
[12:28] <nsadmin> hmm. so the reason  it's complaining has nothing to do with compiz
[12:28] <seven__> any idea how to run conky on a different screen? it's always taking my primary screen, but i want it on my second
[12:28] <Oxymoron> BluesKaj: How to AUTOMATICLY write to fstab like ntfs-config does? I want automount ntfs without manipulating fstab mysefl
[12:28] <carera> guys, i've got fresh ubuntu installation on my acer with ati HD5470, i installed ati driver, it appears to work, but it appears to work slower than without it... glxgears say 1800fps, but it's lagging like crazy
[12:29] <carera> fgl_glxgears are smooth, but moving windows is a bit laggy
[12:29] <hoopjumping> Oh hey, I may as well ask as I'm backing up: I have a HDMI out (nvidia ION graphics), but can't get any signal out. It was working with windows, so I know that bit works, just nvidia x server doesn't want to detect the telly I have the hdmi plugged into
[12:30] <Oxymoron> hoopjumping: I want answer on that too :)
[12:31] <hoopjumping> oxymoron: I was here last week, the guy said he'd get himself a HDMI graphics card so he could test it out as it's a common request for help
[12:31] <evilgen> Hallo kennst sich jemand mit Ylmf aus? Soll ein Ubuntu-System sein
[12:31] <Oxymoron> hoopjumping: I heard, not sure if you have same config but that hybrid hraphics not is supported yet in Linux but guys are working on it.
[12:32] <wols> !de | evilgen
[12:32] <Oxymoron> hoopjumping: I tried google and I have not found anyone be able to make it work.
[12:32] <evilgen> thx
[12:32] <wols> Oxymoron: my t400 hybrid graphics works reasnably well under linux
[12:32] <BluesKaj> Oxymoron, sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o force /dev/sdXX /mnt ,  will mount the partition for a session at least .
[12:32] <Sidewinder1> Oxymoron, Have you searched or asked in www.ubuntuforums.org?
[12:33] <wols> but the configuration needed is not yet in vanilla ubuntu
[12:33] <Oxymoron> wols: Mine works, but Linux only use the Intel built in chip. no the nvidia, wont switch at all.
[12:33] <hoopjumping> oxymoron: I dunno what hybrid graphics are. I have an Asus AT3ION-t Motherboard, it's got an intel atom cpu, and nvidia ion gpu under one small heatsink (doesn't get that hot). VGA works ok, but this is supposed to be my HTPC, thus needs the hdmi for those super duper high res+audio outputs.
[12:33] <Oxymoron> BluesKaj: I want automount, not force mount everytime :P
[12:33] <Oxymoron> Sidewinder1: Yes I searched there
[12:33] <wols> Oxymoron: that is not any value of "works" I am familiar with
[12:33] <Sidewinder1> :-(
[12:34] <Oxymoron> wols: I tried acpi_call, switcheroo and bumblebee, but nothing seems to work.
[12:34] <nsadmin> ok, here's my video, what's next for enabling 3d
[12:34] <nsadmin> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc M880G [Mobility Radeon HD 4200] [1002:9712]
[12:35] <BluesKaj> Oxymoron, there are lots og ntfs-3g mount /fstab tutorials ..but I don't understand why it's nort automounting ...perhaps a permissions problem ?
[12:35] <Oxymoron> hoopjumping: Thats harsch, must be get working. As It seems, either it works out of box or not at all :P
[12:35] <guillermo> hi
[12:35] <wols> nsadmin: ati/radeon. should be there by default and working
[12:35] <Oxymoron> BluesKaj: In my opinion, ubuntu kernel should automount all hdd by default, first time I installed it.
[12:35] <wols> hoopjumping: use the nvidia proprietary drivers
[12:35] <nsadmin> if not, what would I install
[12:35] <Oxymoron> BluesKaj: I should not need to manipulate fstab to make it automount.
[12:36] <wols> !fglrx > nsadmin
[12:36] <dr_willis> I always tell the installer where to Mount my windows partitions... there is the ntfs-config tool that can auto-add fstab entries i belive
[12:36] <hoopjumping> wols: Is that when you start up and it says restricted drivers available? I checked yes on the nvidia stuff
[12:36] <BluesKaj> Oxymoron, agreed , that's why I'm puzzled
[12:36] <Oxymoron> wols: When I enabled nvidia prop drivers, xserver wont work and my computer cannot boot, fatal error.
[12:36] <nsadmin> oh, fglrx? is that compiled in ubuntu? or do I do that?
[12:36] <Oxymoron> wols: Thats because my nvidia card does not seem to be found or something on bootup.
[12:37] <Oxymoron> wols: Linux kernel use my Intel chip by default on boot, hence the fail when Xserver is told to use nvidia drivers xD
[12:37] <wols> Oxymoron: yes. if you set your BIOS to "discrete" or such it will work but intel won't. shitty implementation. Optimus as implemented is utter crap
[12:37] <Oxymoron> BluesKaj: I can mount it myself, but I do not want that, it should just work.
[12:38] <nsadmin> this thing might need firmware... is that packaged?
[12:38] <wols> nsadmin: read what ubottu told you
[12:38] <Oxymoron> wols: LOL, yeah xD Do you know if someone is working on it? It is a shame graphics wont work, especially not HDMI.
[12:38] <nsadmin> still no browser yet
[12:39] <nsadmin> I'm in ubuntu, not my presently comfortable and complete debian :)
[12:39] <wols> there are some people working on it, but there might not be a good solution since the X architecture basically prevents on the fly switching apparently
[12:39] <wols> nsadmin: works mostly the same actually. and as a debian user you know how to check the bot (hint!)
[12:39] <wols> nsadmin: /msg ubottu fglrx
[12:40] <Oxymoron> wols: So basicly X and Linux kernel conflicts? :D
[12:40] <wols> Oxymoron: X
[12:40] <nsadmin> I saw it, it's a link, that;s why I said "I don't have a browser yet"
[12:40] <Oxymoron> wols: Maybe it is time to abandon X and program a new window handler :P
[12:40] <nsadmin> that plus no cut/paste is a bummer :P
[12:41] <wols> Oxymoron: already underway
[12:41] <BluesKaj> Oxymoron, check your nvidia-driver , it may not be installed the nouveau is the default , you may need to install the recommended driver in additional drivers
[12:41] <dr_willis> Oxymoron,  that would be 'wayland' i think as to the next alternative to X.
[12:41] <BluesKaj> Oxymoron, dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[12:41] <wols> nsadmin: you have lynx, links, elinks,...
[12:41] <Oxymoron> BluesKaj: Well I tried that already, does not work unfortunatly. I can enable the nvidia, but Xserver wont work with it because of something I do not know, fatal error on bootup.
[12:41] <wols> BluesKaj: driver alone won't help
[12:41] <Oxymoron> dr_willis: :)
[12:42] <nsadmin> pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
[12:42] <nsadmin> p
[12:42] <nsadmin> pp
[12:42] <nsadmin> pp
[12:42] <nsadmin> p
[12:42] <BluesKaj> Oxymoron, which nvidia card?
[12:42] <FloodBot1> nsadmin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:42] <oCean> nsadmin: stop that
[12:42] <Oxymoron> BluesKaj: One sec
[12:43] <wols> BluesKaj: you do know this is a Optimus setup?
[12:43] <Oxymoron> BluesKaj: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT218 [GeForce G210M] (rev a2)
[12:43] <wols> BluesKaj: the problem is NOT the nvidia chip but the way it accesses and shares the DVI out
[12:43] <Oxymoron> BluesKaj: It is though ALSO using 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[12:43] <wols> BluesKaj: and it's NOT the driver either
[12:43] <pooltable> KDE 4.7 how do i installed it and try it ?
[12:43] <linuxuz3r> edk 7.4
[12:43] <Oxymoron> pooltable: Visit kubuntu.org ;)
[12:44] <linuxuz3r> 7.4 edk
[12:44] <Oxymoron> pooltable: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.7
[12:45] <Oxymoron> I am just curious, latest thunderbolt, sandy bridge, bulldozer, new Intel chips etc, does they work on Linux? :P
[12:45] <Oxymoron> Ubuntu*
[12:45] <jim> argh. did I post garbage, a buncha ps?
[12:45] <wols> Oxymoron: yes
[12:45] <wols> jim: if you are nsadmin, then yes
[12:45] <Oxymoron> wols: Nice :) Just cruious if new things works or if it would be hopeless to buy a new computer in future :P
[12:45] <pooltable> thanks
[12:46] <jim> yeah, sorry
[12:48] <hoopjumping> wow, I'm getting a writing speed (to the drive I just formatted ext4) of 62.5mb/sec. It's going to copy 190gb quickly
[12:48] <amin`> hi guys I am using gentoo and I nedd halp with networkmanager . I overwrites nameservers and hostname each time i restart. how could it be happemimg in gentoo but there is nothing happens in ubuntu?
[12:49] <ThinkT510> amin`: ask gentoo
[12:49] <wols> amin`: you are in the wrong channel
[12:49] <hoopjumping> so, where is the hard drive controls so I can say "start when the system starts", as when using transmission It won't mount the hard drive automatically and then gives me torrent errors
[12:50] <dr_willis> hoopjumping,  i normally just add a fstab entry. or run ntfs-config for ntfs/vfat and it can add the,. but ntfs-config is often flakey.
[12:50] <amin`> I know guys. I want to know what happens in ubuntu with metwork manager does it write resolve.conf and nameservers eachtime you restart. If No how ubuntu configures it??
[12:51] <dr_willis> im not sure if psydm can add a entry/make it mount at boot up.
[12:51] <hoopjumping> dr_willis I've reformatted my drive to EXT4, will ntfs tools work with that?
[12:51] <dr_willis> hoopjumping,  make a fstab entry. and be SURE to chown/chmod the dir you want to write to -- to be owned by your user.
[12:51] <wols> amin`: yes it does
[12:51] <wols> amin`: by way of dhcp client usually
[12:51] <norbert_> hi all, when I use gparted to format a USB stick to ext4, for some reason 64.34 MB is already used after it has been formatted, but there are no files on the USB stick yet... any ideas how this is possible? does it have to do with the ext4 format, maybe?
[12:52] <wols> norbert_: metadata and the 5-10% of diskspace reserved for root
[12:52] <wols> plus the megabyte vs. mebibyte prefix bullshit
[12:52] <hoopjumping> dr_willis: I have no idea what you're talking about. Is there a program I can use, to right click on the drive, then click a checkbox to say automount on startup? Hopefully it'd have controls to spin the drive down after three minutes to
[12:52] <ThinkT510> !language | wols
[12:52] <norbert_> 5-10% is reserved for root?
[12:52] <norbert_> for user root?
[12:53] <ThinkT510> !fstab | hoopjumping
[12:54] <wols> norbert_: man tune2fs
[12:54] <dr_willis> hoopjumping,  theres not such feature thative ever seen.
[12:55] <dr_willis> hoopjumping,  theres mounting at BOOT TIME. then mounting when the user logs in and first accesses tghe disk.
[12:55] <encaitar> new to irc and ubuntu, is this an appropriate place to ask a ssh rsa setup question?
[12:55] <ThinkT510> encaitar: if you are in need of help, yes
[12:56] <norbert_> wols: thanks, the -m reserved-blocks-percentage seems to be what I was looking for
[12:56] <dr_willis> !fstab | hoopjumping
[12:56] <amin`> again sorry So can you tell me the offtopic channel or ask here
[12:56] <encaitar> ThinkT510, thank you, question to follow
[12:56] <hoopjumping> dr_willis, hmm. I dunno how to describe it. I am more familiar with windows, and under power options (found with the screensaver submenu) you could say when to turn hard drives off. There, mounting is not an issue, all hard drives mount on startup. But here I have to manually mount the drive
[12:56] <dr_willis> hoopjumping,  bottom line.. you want a hard drive filesystem to be mounted at bootup, befor a user even logs in.. you add an entry in the /etc/fstab file for it.
[12:56] <gnagno> hello all, I am having issues in upgrading my system.... I did an apt-get upgrade and it hanged at 2
[12:56] <upthedeise> leave
[12:56] <Sidewinder1> !ot | amin`
[12:57] <wols> gnagno: pastebin the output of your apt-get command
[12:57] <gnagno> hello all, I am having issues in upgrading my system.... I did an apt-get upgrade and it hanged at "Setting up libappindicator0.1-cil, installing 3 assemblies from libappindicator0.1-cil into mono"
[12:57] <gnagno> sorry wols the second message is the correct one
[12:58] <encaitar> Running Ubuntu 10.4, set up LAMP using guide on Linode (not using Linode, local box, just using their guide), can connect via putty from a Win 7 box on the same network using putty and WinSCP. Read the Linode guide on using secure RSA authentication, changing a few settings in the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file ...
[12:58] <hoopjumping> dr_willis: I'm not sure, I'm a bit confused. Basically, I want it so when I'm logged in, in addition to the ssd where my OS is, I want the other drive with my data on it to be mounted. I guess it'll just be easier to fire up nautilus and click on it.
[12:58] <dr_willis> hoopjumping,  its worth the 20 min it will take to learn how fstab works.
[12:58] <gnagno> my computer cannot pass the step "installing 3 assemblies from libappindicator0.1-cil into mono" but I don't want mono and would be glad to uninstall it, can I directly uninstall it ?
[12:59] <encaitar> changed AuthorizedKeysFile to point to location of public key generated from puttygen on Win7 box, and PasswordAuthentication set to no
[12:59] <dr_willis> hoopjumping,  your method is mounting  on first access by the file manager
[12:59] <dr_willis>  You will STILL need your ext4 filesystem to be properly owned by the user you want to have full access to ut
[12:59] <chaitu> Can someone please help me in having youtube working in chromium browser please? is this a flash issue?
[13:00] <wols> dr_willis: only for the / of the ext4 fs
[13:00] <chaitu> I just did sudo apt-get upgrade flash and it has finished it
[13:00] <encaitar> when connecting over winscp error message disconnected no supported authentication method found, am I missing a setting change?
[13:00] <dr_willis> wols,  subdirs can be owned by other users. :)
[13:00] <hoopjumping> dr_willis: Ehhh, I have a healthy disdain for the command line. I know, it's amazing, why bother with a GUI even? But I'm one of those people that likes to get my computer stuff done with a mouse, and uses the keyboard for naming things.
[13:00] <dr_willis> hoopjumping,  all i can say is... get over it.
[13:01] <hoopjumping> I'll read up on fstab.
[13:01] <dr_willis> !fstab
[13:01] <dr_willis> with computers and linux - it pays to lern the fundamentals..
[13:01] <WaltherFI> !offtopic
[13:01] <ThinkT510> hoopjumping: you can edit fstab through the gui
[13:02] <dr_willis> ive learned to not trust fstab  'gui' tools... :)
[13:02] <WaltherFI> sorry to say this guys, but the debate over GUI vs terminal is not about support
[13:02] <hoopjumping> thinkt510: What's the program called?
[13:02] <dr_willis> i mentioned 'psydm' earlier.
[13:02] <dr_willis> !info psydm
[13:02] <dr_willis> or was it pysdm ?
[13:03] <ThinkT510> hoopjumping: just launch an editor with gksudo
[13:03] <ThinkT510> hoopjumping: though i do find it miles easier simply using nano
[13:03]  * duga is away: Jestem zajęty
[13:04] <Soothsayer> why can't I ping any host with my default install of ubuntu?
[13:04] <dr_willis> bbl
[13:04] <alex--> Soothsayer: depends on what it returns as error
[13:05] <Soothsayer> alex--, well it resolves the host, but there's a 100% packet loss
[13:05] <Soothsayer> 1 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 0ms   <-- no matter what i ping
[13:06] <hoopjumping> this fstab stuff sounds far too complicated, when I have a method I know will work right now. Besides, I only want the drive on intermittently, so it doesn't make sense to mount it on login.
[13:06] <BrainBug> Soothsayer, probably your settings, try pinging 74.125.39.99 ; does that give response?
[13:06] <Soothsayer> BrainBug, nope, no response.
[13:07] <BrainBug> Soothsayer, wirless or cable?
[13:07] <Soothsayer> BrainBug, wireless
[13:07] <ThinkT510> hoopjumping: honestly, it is easy when you know how, you just need to want to know
[13:07] <BrainBug> Soothsayer, what kind ? wep/wpa(2)?
[13:07] <Soothsayer> BrainBug, maybe it's pinging through the wrong network card?
[13:07] <Soothsayer> hmm one sec
[13:07] <Soothsayer> BrainBug, WPA
[13:07] <Soothsayer> WPA - Personal - TKIP
[13:08] <BrainBug> Soothsayer, should work out of the box, but, what does ifconfig say for wlan0 or eth1 ?
[13:08] <dr_willis> hoopjumping,  you say its far too complex when you havent even tried.. if you dont need it mounted at BOOT TIME. then you can just let the file manager automount it on first access.. but rember you must access it - first. Your torrent clients wont auto mount it  - if they are writing to it.
[13:08] <Soothsayer> BrainBug, brb, urgent call, sorry
[13:08] <BrainBug> np
[13:09] <odie5533> I have a directory w/ root owner and a different group owns it and I'm a member of that group. If I create a file in the directory, it shows me as the owner and group of the file. Will other groups members be able to read/write files I've created in that directory as well as create/delete subdirectories, even though I'm the owner and group of them?
[13:10] <ThinkT510> !permissions | odie5533
[13:10] <satellit_> Sugar desktop works: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Ubuntu#Sugar_Desktop_0.88.1_on_Ubuntu_11.04  wish surf-115 was packaged for Ubuntu 11.04
[13:11] <alex--> Soothsayer: try to ping 127.0.0.1
[13:11] <odie5533> ThinkT510: It's a good page and I've read it, but it doesn't answer my question.
[13:12] <thauriswulfa> HELP:unable to install java http://paste.ubuntu.com/655643/ need help
[13:13] <h_> hi there, anyone with experience developing an appindicator in natty? or is there a specific irc channel for devs
[13:13] <h_> ?
[13:13] <fmauro> thauriswulfa: what command did you use?
[13:13] <thauriswulfa> fmauro: I installed from ubuntu software center
[13:14] <fmauro> thauriswulfa: try opening a console with Ctrl-Alt-T
[13:15] <thauriswulfa> fmauro:  but it seems to be installed in software center
[13:15] <fmauro> thauriswulfa: don't worry about it for now
[13:15] <thauriswulfa> fmauro: ok
[13:15] <fmauro> thauriswulfa: we don't have to clog up the channel for this. I'll pm you
[13:16] <fmauro> \query thauriswulfa
[13:16] <dr_willis> h_,  ive seen ones written in Python at the askubuntu.com listing. :)  if you want an example.
[13:16] <Thrawn> how do i add an icon for the unity launcher (ubuntu 11.04) for a program? i got a ? as the icon for eclipse in the launcher
[13:16] <dr_willis> Thrawn,  eclipse ive heard of as being a little 'weird' because of how its launched from a script  and other complexities.. (ive seen it asked about like 3 times a week in here)
[13:17] <h_> dr_willis, you mean answers there?
[13:17] <dr_willis> h_,  i just noticed many are at the site. and some were in python. i was going to get that one and examine the code to try to write my own.. someday. :) but never had the time
[13:17] <Thrawn> dr_willis: but the eclipse icon shows up when i click the ubuntu icon of the laucher and type eclipse there :P
[13:18] <dr_willis> Thrawn,  eclipse is weird.. all i can say. I dont use it. but ive seen it speficically asked about with that same issue here several times befor.
[13:18] <h_> dr_willis, well actually im trying to build mine, but i just wanted to know how to pick my own icon. >D
[13:18] <Thrawn> dr_willis: do you know in what folder the unity-launcher icons are stored?
[13:19] <BrainBug> thrawn, fllw this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToAddaLauncher it sais where all is stored
[13:19] <dr_willis> Thrawn,  no idea.  Unity is one of those 'idiot-proofed unti its unknownable voodoo' :)
[13:19] <dr_willis> bbl - off to the store
[13:19] <Thrawn> lol
[13:19] <Thrawn> thx brainbug
[13:19] <Thrawn> um brainbug thats not unity
[13:20] <BrainBug> thrawn, this one is :) was the default one there http://askubuntu.com/questions/13758/how-can-i-edit-create-new-launcher-items-in-unity-by-hand
[13:21] <Thrawn> thats better :D thanks brainbug!
[13:23] <Roo79> Hi all :) I've been trying to find out if there is an oneiric minimal install out yet? or if there is a way to do it. can anyone please help
[13:23] <wols> !oneiric
[13:25] <AceKing> Is there a way to boot into 11.04 live CD in classic mode?
[13:25] <alex-->  AceKing you mean gnome instead of unity?
[13:25] <AceKing> alex--, yes
[13:25] <rsv> on ubuntu 10.10 sound doesnt work on my acer laptop, how do i troubleshoot
[13:26] <WaltherFI> rsv: have you checked all the settings from the sound menu?
[13:26] <alex--> AceKing: log out, and then at the bottom of your screen you will see some buttons, there you can select classic mode. select it and login again
[13:26] <AceKing> I tried that, but it's asking for a password
[13:26] <WaltherFI> AceKing: the pass is empty
[13:26] <alex--> AceKing: just press enter
[13:26] <Sidewinder1> !sound | rsv
[13:27] <AceKing> WaltherFI, alex--, it keeps saying Authentication failure
[13:28] <alex--> AceKing: try username: ubuntu, password:
[13:28] <AceKing> alex--, OK
[13:30] <AceKing> alex--, It worked, but it signed in under Unity, even thought I clicked on Ubuntu Classic on the drop down menu
[13:30] <alex--> AceKing: try 'safe mode'
[13:31] <AceKing> alex--, ok
[13:31] <alex--> instead of classic
[13:32] <AceKing> alex--, Nope, still signing into Unity.. That's OK, I'll deal with it. I just needed to back up files before I re-installed on this laptop. I just hate Unity
[13:32] <alex--> strange
[13:33] <AceKing> alex--, thanks for your help!
[13:33] <alex--> AceKing: :)
[13:33] <skjoedt> Could someone assist me? I have trouble getting HDMI out working (no screen detection when plugging in HDMI). Works in win7. I have an ATI HD4670 and running catalyst 11.6
[13:40] <fmauro> join #linux
[13:46] <hoopjumping> Hi, back again. I did my backup, unmounted both hard drives. Now they are unmounted, is it safe for me to take the power and data cables out?
[13:47] <compdoc> not while its powered on
[13:47] <compdoc> are you trying not to shut off the system?
[13:47] <mark1> with SATA it should be fine
[13:47] <hoopjumping> No, just wanted to unplug the hard drive from another computer
[13:47] <hoopjumping> but I feared as much. Ah well, thanks. I'll have to shut down
[13:48] <compdoc> sata is capable of hot-plugging
[13:48] <hoopjumping> it's sata
[13:48] <hoopjumping> cool, I'll try it. Can't hurt as they are unmounted
[13:49] <compdoc> unplugging would be safer than plugging it in to a powered on system
[13:49] <compdoc> I always power off
[13:54] <asganafer> come vi sembra ubuntu 11.04??
[13:55] <IdleOne> !it | asganafer
[13:56] <pr0ton> what do you guys use to send mass emails?
[13:56] <pr0ton> basically i want to send emails to a couple of people i know
[13:56] <pr0ton> from my SMTP server, bu thunderbird doesnt support mass emailing
[13:56] <pr0ton> the issue is if i BCC everybody, then their name doesnt show
[13:56] <fmauro> !enter | pr0ton
[13:57] <Sidewinder1> pr0ton, So just CC them, not BCC.
[13:57] <fmauro> pr0ton: then just CC everybody. then their name will show.
[13:57] <pr0ton> fmauro, but it's a mass email, i dont want everybody to know who everybody else is
[13:57] <pr0ton> basically it's a mass mail, it's supposed to be sent to each person individually...
[13:58] <fmauro> pr0ton: but? you just said .. their name should show. not getting it
[13:58] <Sidewinder1> ?
[13:58] <pr0ton> pr0ton, if i send a BCC email, the to field is blank ... i just saw on gmail
[13:59] <desss> hi, I have connected 2nd monitor to Ubuntu but somehow I cannot manage it to work, could someone help me, maybe to run some tests to find out where the problem might be
[13:59] <fmauro> pr0ton: yes you have to put one (1) email address in TO: the others in BCC:
[14:00] <wols> desss: either use xrandr or nvidia-settings depending on which driver you use
[14:00] <pr0ton> fmauro, no
[14:00] <desss> in this current situation, Ubuntu runs on one monitor normally and prints a Ubuntu booting screen on another
[14:00] <pr0ton> you dont understand
[14:00] <pr0ton> http://awesomescreenshot.com/08chndy81
[14:00] <pr0ton> i want to mass email. so basically everybody who receives it will be in the To field somehow... the BCC thing was a hack, which didnt work
[14:00] <wols> pr0ton: then you want to use BCC
[14:00] <desss> wols: how to find out which should I need?
[14:00] <pr0ton> i mean, it worked in the sense the email was sent... but it doesnt show the Person's name in the To, it's blank
[14:01] <wols> no it' snot a hack. it's standard for Email
[14:01] <pr0ton> wols, see the email
[14:01] <fangpeishi> #ss
[14:01] <pr0ton> the link**
[14:01] <fangpeishi> what
[14:01] <wols> desss: which driver do you use?
[14:01] <pr0ton> http://awesomescreenshot.com/08chndy81
[14:01] <pr0ton> the to part is blank
[14:01] <desss> wols: to be honest I am not sure
[14:01] <fmauro> pr0ton: yes I see the issue. how about creating a group in gmail?
[14:01] <wols> pr0ton: then use a mailinlist manager
[14:02] <wols> desss: what videocard?
[14:02] <pr0ton> wols, is there any desktop client on ubuntu for that?
[14:02] <fangpeishi> ubuntu
[14:02] <fangpeishi> #ubuntu
[14:02] <wols> pr0ton: no. it's a mailinglist manager. it's server software. at most has a web interface
[14:02] <pr0ton> fmauro, i dont use a gmail account for sending an email... i'm just pulling emails from my django script, and sending an email for now
[14:02] <wols> !info mailman
[14:02] <airtonix> why does gedit still think my ssh connections in nautilus are mounted under ~/.gvfs ?
[14:02] <pr0ton> wols, is it CLI?
[14:03] <desss> wols: it is nVidia but I am not 100% sure about that
[14:04] <wols> desss: lspci -nn |grep VGA     glxinfo |grep -i render
[14:04] <desss> I got 2 video cards, one on the motherboard, one extern, since now I only used the extern one, Ubuntu installed some nVidia drivers for that if I remember well
[14:05] <wols> desss: there are two kinds of nvidia drivers possible. actually 4
[14:05] <wols> *3
[14:05] <hoopjumping> just wanted to report that the other hard drive was safely unplugged, so yes, you can unplug unmounted sata drives without ill effect
[14:05] <desss> wols: glxinfo does not exist
[14:05] <wols> desss: then I suggest you install it
[14:06] <desss> apt-get glxinfo?
[14:06] <desss> install
[14:06] <jame> npru
[14:06] <jame> hotmail
[14:07] <Sidewinder1> desss, Don't forget sudo.
[14:07] <jame> exit
[14:07] <desss> Sidewinder1: it cannot find glxinfo package
[14:07]  * airtonix rages
[14:07] <airtonix> why does nautilus not use gvfs anymore ?!?!?!?
[14:07] <airtonix> it breaks gedit
[14:08] <Sidewinder1> desss, I mostly use Synaptic for those type things...
[14:08] <dm04> hi all, in ubuntu 9.10, how do i open a terminal session and call my sh script at login? i googled for an hour now and tried a lot of things but i can't get it working. anyone?
[14:08] <desss> Sidewinder1: apt-cache search glxinfo
[14:09] <desss> mesa-utils - Miscellaneous Mesa GL utilities
[14:09] <wols> !autostart
[14:09] <desss> maybe I should install this?
[14:09] <Sidewinder1> !eol dm04
[14:09] <Sidewinder1> !eol | dm04
[14:10] <airtonix> why does nautilus not use gvfs anymore, i;m connected to a ssh server in nautilus................i see the files..............but ~/.gvfs is empty.!?!?!
[14:10] <dm04> thank you sidewinder1 and wols, i guess i will have to upgrade to newest distro then
[14:10] <Sidewinder1> NP
[14:13] <zatan> Hi, how can I change python version ? default version now is 2.6.6 I want to change in to 2.7.1+ symlink showing python -> /usr/bin/python2.7    but its not using 2.7 how can I change it ?
[14:13] <wols> zatan: you can't
[14:13] <zatan> wols what do you mean I CANT ?
[14:15] <wols> I mean if you do switch the symlinks, lots of bad things will happen and various software will break
[14:15] <benedict> hi, doing "ps -A | grep blue" shows me that i have bluetooth running. i removed every packages that is connectied to bloethooth in any way... still it's here! what did i forget?
[14:15] <wols> benedict: what program is running?
[14:15] <f3bruary> I cant send files via bluetooth to my ubuntu machine. But the other way around works fine.
[14:17] <zatan> wols, but I CAN , thank I changed by myself
[14:17] <benedict> wols: i don't get you... a process called bluetooth is running... don't knwo where it's coming from... as i said, i purged all blue* realted packages i can find... i don't know where this process is coming from...
[14:17] <TuxBrother> who has expierence with boot procedures?
[14:17] <makara> i've got a huawei e153 mobile broadband modem. on Natty i pop down the network icon and sometimes get the option 'Autoconnect usb0' sometimes 'Autoconnect Ethernet' sometimes nothing. What are these options about?
[14:18] <wols> benedict: paste the bluetooth line please
[14:18] <tjiggi_fo> TuxBrother, ask and find out
[14:18] <benedict> t@box:~$ ps -A | grep blue 696 ?        00:00:00 bluetooth
[14:18] <benedict> t@box:~$ ps -A | grep blue 696 ?        00:00:00 bluetooth wols
[14:19] <wols> benedict: use aux
[14:20] <desss> wols: I installed glxinfo
[14:20] <alex--> Which IRC channel is for help with Squeezebox server?
[14:21] <benedict> wols: plz join pastete
[14:21] <desss> also I found out a weird thing, when I log out from Ubuntu, my 2nd monitors blinks and a Ubuntu boot screen appears
[14:21] <wols> benedict: what is pastete?
[14:21] <desss> still I can not work with the 2nd monitor though
[14:21] <wols> desss: normal. X is restarted then
[14:21] <benedict> wols: jsut temporay so that i can paste the lines
[14:22] <desss> wols: but the 2nd monitor does not work, I cannot see it in the monitor setup
[14:22] <benedict> wols: don't wnat to spam the channel and do not know how to make private chat with irssi right now
[14:23] <wols> benedict: single line is not channel spam.
[14:23] <benedict> box:~$ ps -aux | grep blue
[14:23] <benedict> Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html
[14:23] <benedict> root       696  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S    15:57   0:00 [bluetooth]
[14:23] <wols> benedict: not a process but a kernel pseudeo process
[14:23] <Cerrdor> if there is no workspace in my panel where do I find it to add it?
[14:23] <wols> can't remove it unless you blacklist the bluetooth module in the kernel
[14:23] <benedict> wols: how do you know?
[14:24] <TuxBrother> someone having expierence installing windows after ubuntu, dualboot in a VHD?
[14:24] <wols> benedict: the brackets, no memory used, etc
[14:24] <wols> TuxBrother: why do you dualboot a VM?
[14:24] <benedict> wols: so anything i can do about it?
[14:24] <alex--> Who can help me with Squeezebox server?
[14:24] <TuxBrother> no
[14:24] <TuxBrother> I don't do that
[14:24] <wols> benedict: I just told you what you can do. but why do you want it gone?
[14:25] <benedict> wols: it's strange that it comes up in my process list, although everything connected to bluetooth is removed
[14:25] <TuxBrother> I want to keep it as clean as possible
[14:25] <wols> benedict: no it's not strange
[14:25] <tjiggi_fo> Cerrdor, rightclick the panel and then choose "Workspace Switcher"
[14:25] <wols> TuxBrother: a VHD is a format used for VM images
[14:26] <benedict> wols: i don'Ät use bluetooth... and got interested, after it was/is so difficult to remove...
[14:26] <wols> !pm | TuxBrother
[14:26] <benedict> wols: did i miss something? how can i remaove it?
[14:26] <wols> benedict: you can probably blacklist if you insist
[14:26] <Cerrdor> IM using nodezero, so which menu would I find it under?
[14:26] <girlygirl> Does anyone no how to physically boot a .img, .vhd or similar physically with grub2?
[14:26] <Cerrdor> right click has no workspace
[14:26] <wols> TuxBrother: stop spamming people in PM!
[14:26] <benedict> wols: hm ok... does it influence my system performance?
[14:26] <ikonia> girlygirl: you can't boot a vhd
[14:27] <desss> could anyone help me with dual monitors in Ubuntu, so far the other monitor acts like it is not even connected (it is plugged though) - to run some tests maybe?
[14:27] <wols> girlygirl: how will your OS inside the image file access the actual disk?
[14:27] <tjiggi_fo> Cerrdor, go ask in nodezero support forums
[14:27] <TuxBrother> wols: I don't spam
[14:27] <ecreeves> has anyone seen a problem in 11.04 where the login password and keyring password are identical but after logging in you are prompted multiple (i'm up to 3 now from 2 previously) times for the keyring password?
[14:27] <TuxBrother> wols: but if you don't want to help, I will go to another channel
[14:27] <girlygirl> ikonia: wols: like this http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/edge/ff944958
[14:28] <wols> 16:27 <TuxBrother> sorry, but in here you don't have the nubcakes    YOU are the "nubcake"
[14:28] <Cerrdor> so theres no way to do it through Ubuntu menus
[14:28] <ikonia> girlygirl: you can't boot a vhd
[14:28] <TuxBrother> Oh, I bet you are
[14:28] <oCean> TuxBrother: stop that
[14:28] <TuxBrother> better you'd stop that
[14:28] <oCean> TuxBrother: drop that discussion now, ok?
[14:28] <girlygirl> ikonia: wols : I managed with .iso ... under windows it is possible to boot a .vhd found on filesystem
[14:28] <ikonia> girlygirl: you can't boot a vhd
[14:29] <TuxBrother> oCean: I ain't your dog
[14:29] <girlygirl> ikonia: I have done it on windows and it works perfectly well
[14:29] <ikonia> girlygirl: you're not asking about windows,
[14:29] <girlygirl> ikonia: and I managed img before but forgot how
[14:30] <ikonia> girlygirl: I didn't say img - I said vhd
[14:30] <girlygirl> under linux I think it had some sort of other loader grub chainloaded into
[14:30] <wols> girlygirl: grub can do it on its own
[14:30] <benedict> wols: since ot seems like ths process is not doing anything (=reducing my avail. system ressource) i think i'll leave it--- i was merely worried that my system is f*ckd up in a way, because i still have ths process although i removed everything realated to it... thank you for your advice, help and patience
[14:30] <girlygirl> wols: Thanks could you explain how
[14:31] <oCean> benedict: mind your language here, please
[14:32] <benedict> oCean: ok, sry
[14:32] <oCean> thanks
[14:34] <n1x4> mornin
[14:34] <wols> girlygirl: e.g. http://paste.debian.net/124679/ but there are even some other ways. memdisk which is part of syslinux for example
[14:35] <girlygirl> wols: Would this work on grub2?
[14:35] <krux> http://www.vmlite.com/appliances/ubuntu-1104-readme.html
[14:36] <wols> yes
[14:36] <robertf> Hello
[14:36] <wols> krux: this ia a VHD for a VM. different thing
[14:36] <robertf> How to get a list who i'm subscribed to the mailing list (lists.ubuntu.com)
[14:37] <wols> robertf: if you could get this it would be a huge privacy breach
[14:40] <himcesjf> Is there any plan to continue to ship Ubuntu CD's?
[14:40] <alex--> who can help me out with squeezebox?
[14:40] <ikonia> !shipit > himcesjf
[14:41] <wols> alex--: ask your real question(s)
[14:41] <himcesjf> ikonia: I've seen that message myself before asking the question. Is there any plan to *continue*..
[14:41] <alex--> squeezebox says: music system not found, how to fix this?
[14:41] <wols> himcesjf: it's been stopped. there is no continuation, or it wouldn't have stopped
[14:42] <ikonia> himcesjf: ask canonical
[14:42] <soreau> alex--: Does your audio work?
[14:42] <alex--> soreau: of my server or my pc?
[14:42] <soreau> alex--: Well I assume squeezebox is a player..
[14:42] <CatFish> ya
[14:42] <soreau> !info sqeezebox
[14:42] <soreau> !info squeezebox
[14:42] <ikonia> soreau: it's a hardware device
[14:42] <soreau> hm
[14:42] <soreau> ikonia: Ah ok
[14:42] <alex--> ikonia: no?
[14:43] <alex--> sudo nano/etc/apt/sources.list       deb http://debian.slimdevices.com stable main                sudo apt-get install squeezeboxserver
[14:43] <anti_system> hey guys
[14:43] <alex--> ikonia: ^
[14:43] <ikonia> alex--: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squeezebox_(network_music_player)
[14:43] <ikonia> hence the confusion
[14:44] <alex--> ikonia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squeezebox_Server
[14:44] <alex--> ikonia: The software is designed for streaming music over a network, allowing users to play their music collections from virtually anywhere there is an Internet connection.
[14:44] <anti_system> i install edubuntu 11.04 with ltsp and when i try to login on thin client
[14:44] <anti_system> only say: reponse from server, restarting
[14:44] <ikonia> alex--: yes, I see what the software does,
[14:44] <soreau> alex--: We can't really support programs that are not included in ubuntu repos
[14:44] <tomasm-> hi, im trying to install phpize via 'apt-get install php5-dev', and i get an error saying linux-libc-dev could not be found (i get a 404 not found from security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/lucid-updates/main), any ideas whats wrong?
[14:44] <alex--> where can I get support then?
[14:45] <wols> tomasm-: where do you install this php5-dev from?
[14:45] <soreau> alex--: Try to find out if they have an irc channel
[14:45] <alex--> soreau: they have, but it's empty
[14:45] <ikonia> alex--: where did you get the software from ?
[14:45] <tomasm-> wols, i dunno, apt-get php5-dev .... apparently i needed to run apt-get update first, now its ok
[14:46] <alex--> ikonia: sudo nano/etc/apt/sources.list       deb http://debian.slimdevices.com stable main                sudo apt-get install squeezeboxserver
[14:46] <soreau> alex--: Are you sure you're on the right server?
[14:46] <alex--> freenode
[14:46] <wols> tomasm-: apt-cache policy <package> shows you were from something gets installed
[14:46] <Sidewinder1> alex--, Did you search/ask in www.ubuntuforums.org?
[14:46] <Soothsayer> BrainBug, you still here?
[14:47] <Soothsayer> why can't I ping any host or ip address?
[14:47] <alex--> soreau: http://squeezebox.rubyforge.org/                  The mailing list is squeezebox-users@rubyforge.org. The FreeNode IRC channel is #squeezebox.
[14:47] <wols> alex--: slimdevices.com is not a ubuntu repo. ask the slimdevices people about their software
[14:47] <alex--> Soothsayer: maybe your firewall
[14:47] <Soothsayer> alex--, i always get a 104 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 103028ms
[14:47] <Soothsayer> alex--, i haven't setup a firewall myself. Is there any by default?
[14:47] <Aleuck> Soothsayer: maybe you don't have true internet connection, maybe you have a proxy
[14:47] <soreau> alex--: Yep, it's empty alright. Maybe try a generic channel like ##linux
[14:48] <ikonia> alex--: I'm not %100 certain as the documentation isn't good, but that package appears to be built for debian
[14:48] <Soothsayer> Aleuck, I'm connected wireless to my router. All other laptops (windows) in my house can connect to it and ping any host.
[14:48] <alex--> ikonia: http://www.studiob.co.za/setupnas.html    and then scroll to Installing Squeezebox Server
[14:48] <n1x4> hola my children...lol hows it goin
[14:49] <alex--> n1x4: what's hola?
[14:49] <Sidewinder1> Hello.
[14:49] <benedict> alex--: spanish
[14:49] <ikonia> alex--: that's just someones website, that doesn't mean it's correct
[14:49] <alex--> ikonia: it works for him
[14:49] <alex--> benedict: why are you talking spanish in an english channel?
[14:49] <ikonia> alex--: I'll right a website that says it doesn't work for me, does that make it fact ?
[14:49] <n1x4> b/c i can mate
[14:49]  * Sidewinder1 Sighs..
[14:49] <alex--> ikonia: no, only if it works
[14:50] <n1x4> i do beleie the rest of that was in eng if imnot mistaken
[14:50] <ikonia> alex--: I'm just going by what I'm reading on the logictech site, which is the official site that provides it, which suggests it's for debian
[14:50] <jdear> is a how to, for makting a SAN of ubuntu /ISCSI basic avalibal?
[14:50] <Aleuck> Soothsayer: can you read and paste here the content of /etc/resolv.conf
[14:50] <Sidewinder1> n1x4, No worries...
[14:50] <Aleuck> Soothsayer: pastevin
[14:50] <IdleOne> !ot | n1x4
[14:50] <Aleuck> Soothsayer: s/pastevin/pastebin
[14:50] <Soothsayer> Aleuck, ok one sec
[14:51] <Soothsayer> Aleuck, here you go: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=EjR1Hbnn
[14:51] <n1x4> is there a networking chan anywhere?? got an issure using a wet54g bridge
[14:52] <IdleOne> n1x4: ##networking
[14:52] <n1x4> thnx
[14:52] <girlygirl____> any possibility of Office 2010 VISIO working in wine?
[14:52] <ikonia> girlygirl____: ask the wine chaps, ##winehq and check the app db
[14:52] <ikonia> !appdb > girlygirl____
[14:53] <girlygirl____> ikonia: thanks I will do that
[14:53] <Aleuck> Soothsayer: the resolv.conf seems to be ok, can you try the host comand instead of ping?
[14:53] <wh1zz0> Hi guys.. Imn on ubuntu 11.04 >> please what tool can I use to download flash videos from any website at all.
[14:53] <wh1zz0> ?
[14:54] <Soothsayer> Aleuck, works. I did a host google.com and it resolved it
[14:55] <WaltherFI> wh1zz0: i don't think downloading the content from flash videos is legit enough to be discussed at #ubuntu
[14:55] <wh1zz0> I'm a member of a certain site and the videos come up as a pop up, I would really love to save them for reference purpose.. Please any help would be appreciated. What tool can I get on ubuntu that will enable me achieve this?
[14:55] <seven__> :>
[14:55] <BluesKaj> !curl |wh1zz0
[14:56] <IdleOne> wh1zz0: try searching the firefox addon page for "video download helper"
[14:56] <wh1zz0> I use chrome
[14:56] <BluesKaj> !info curl |wh1zz0
[14:56] <wols> wh1zz0: flash?
[14:56] <IdleOne> wh1zz0: then check chromes addon page
[14:56] <wh1zz0> Yeah fash
[14:56] <diverdude> What should i install to get the entire compile environment with gcc and cc ?
[14:56] <theadmin> diverdude: build-essential
[14:56] <wols> wh1zz0: then check your /tmp when you watched it before you close the flash applet
[14:56] <wh1zz0> !info flash |wh1zz0
[14:57] <theadmin> wh1zz0: It's flashplugin-installer IIRC
[14:57] <Aleuck> Soothsayer: you are using dhcp or manual network configuration?
[14:57] <ikonia> wh1zz0: browsers have plugins for it
[14:57] <anti_system> how can i create users on server (edubuntu 11.04) to use on ltsp thin clients?
[14:57] <Soothsayer> Aleuck, manual address
[14:57] <wh1zz0> The ones I saw on that page can only download YouTube videos
[14:57] <ikonia> anti_system: what are your ltsp clients authenticating against
[14:57] <ikonia> wh1zz0: then that's the limitation
[14:57] <WaltherFI> !build-essentials | diverdude
[14:57] <anti_system> ikonia?
[14:58] <Soothsayer> Aleuck, since I want a static ip from my router.
[14:58] <WaltherFI> diverdude: build-essentials is the meta-package you'll want
[14:58] <Sidewinder1> wh1zz0, Have you tries "UnPlug", it's a FF add-on, but may work in chrome?
[14:58] <Sidewinder1> tried, even.
[14:58] <ikonia> anti_system: what are your ltsp clients authenticating their users again
[14:58] <diverdude> and zlib is just zlib?
[14:58] <Aleuck> Soothsayer: can you pastebin the content of /etc/network/interfaces ?
[14:59] <wh1zz0> Okie let me check
[14:59] <Soothsayer> Aleuck, just two lines. auto lo      +       iface lo inet loopback
[15:00] <Sora1995> So... all day I've been trying to get packages to install on 11.04, but I keep gettingn errors, such as this one http://pastebin.com/BbAcNgPg and this one http://pastebin.com/cinXks9K I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong
[15:00] <Aleuck> Soothsayer: ic.
[15:00] <Sanjib> lonely programmer wants to unmount root to search for a deleted file
[15:00] <anti_system> ikonia i use 1 thin client and create a teste user on the server side and when try to login on thin client the gdm says: reponse from server, restarting
[15:01] <Sanjib> any ideas
[15:01] <ikonia> anti_system: what authentication system is the ltsp client using for authenticate it's suers
[15:02] <Aleuck> Soothsayer: are you sure you have the correct gateway configured?
[15:02] <dr_willis> Sanjib,  i always use a live cd for such tasks.
[15:02] <Sanjib> but this is on aws
[15:02] <dr_willis> No idea what an 'aws' is
[15:03] <Sanjib> so i guess that us not an option
[15:03] <Sidewinder1> Sanjib, Do it from a LiveCD?
[15:03] <Sanjib> amazon web service
[15:03] <Sanjib> its a cloud system
[15:03] <Sidewinder1> !enter | San
[15:03] <dr_willis> Im not sure how 'officially' supported all these "AWS' and other virtual servbrt services are by this channel.   I do know.. I dont know diddly about them so cant offer any suggestions.
[15:04] <Soothsayer> Aleuck, hmm one sec
[15:04] <Aleuck> Soothsayer: don't know if I can help any further, you can try to ask for halp in #networking
[15:04] <Protomega> sudo apt-get install nmap
[15:04] <Protomega> is nmap the file path?
[15:04] <Sidewinder1> dr_willis, Beat ma ahain; I give up...Sooner or later I'll learn to type.
[15:04] <theadmin> Protomega: Package name
[15:04] <Sidewinder1> me, even.
[15:04] <synapse> If I do a dist upgrade, will it blow away my nvidia config for X like usual?
[15:05] <diverdude> I am trying to configure subversion but when i run configure script i get the error: configure: error: subversion requires zlib. How do i install this?
[15:05] <ikonia> synapse: shouldn't do
[15:05] <ikonia> synapse: back it up just in case
[15:05] <Protomega> The package name would be the file name of the .tar.gz?
[15:05] <dr_willis> synapse,  ive nver had it remove the xorg.conf, it should at least back it up. BUT if a upgrade installs the proper nvidia drivers.. is anotgher story.
[15:05] <synapse> k
[15:05] <theadmin> diverdude: How about installing SVN from repositories?
[15:05] <theadmin> !APT | Protomega
[15:05] <synapse> well, the upgrade installing the drivers is the problem probably
[15:05] <Soothsayer> Aleuck, see this, http://i.imgur.com/ySYxM.png
[15:05] <diverdude> theadmin, well i cant because i have a non-default installation of apache
[15:06] <Sanjib> will it be possible to add a new drive and do from there?
[15:06] <synapse> I've had it screw up xorg
[15:06] <theadmin> !find zlib
[15:06] <Soothsayer> Aleuck, 192.168.1.1 is my router
[15:06] <Protomega> Thank you theadmin :)
[15:06] <diverdude> theadmin, i am using an bitnami ubuntu image
[15:06] <Sora1995> So, anyone got a clue?
[15:06] <erus`> can i restore the old interface in ubuntu 11?
[15:06] <Aleuck> Soothsayer: can you ping 192.168.1.1 ?
[15:06] <dr_willis> !classic | erus`
[15:07] <diverdude> any1+?
[15:07] <erus`> super
[15:07] <dr_willis> erus`,  get used to unity.. classic will be removed in the next release.....
[15:07] <theadmin> dr_willis: Ouch.
[15:07] <ikonia> diverdude: why are you not using the apache install from ubuntu ?
[15:07] <dr_willis> with the various addons and tips from askubuntu and webupd8 - i got unity working decently well for me.
[15:07] <Aleuck> Soothsayer: check ipconfig on working windows to make sure the gateway is the same
[15:07] <theadmin> dr_willis: Sounds like time for everyone to switch to Xfce huh?
[15:08] <dr_willis> theadmin,  i perfer lubuntu for a 'old-skool' style desktop. :)
[15:08] <diverdude> ikonia, because the image comes with a preinstalled apache. its an bitnami image
[15:08] <Protomega> erus` But isn't Ubuntu completely customizable?
[15:08] <ikonia> diverdude: oh, so this isn't a proper ubuntu install ?
[15:08] <theadmin> dr_willis: Xfce just gives a GNOME2-like feeling
[15:08] <dr_willis> You can alwyas use somthin other then unity.. :)
[15:08] <Soothsayer> dr_willis, why, can't you put classic back easily?
[15:08] <dr_willis> Soothsayer,  no idea. i dont worry about it.. the old gnome is being taken out back and burried...
[15:08] <diverdude> ikonia, no it is a bitnami image hosted on amazon, but it is a ubuntu image
[15:08] <Soothsayer> Aleuck, yes it is. for sure. Even going to 192.168.1.1 takes me to the router panel.
[15:09] <ikonia> diverdude: it's modified I suggest using bitnami's support for that
[15:09] <Soothsayer> dr_willis, what about gnome3 getting better? i still have to try it.
[15:09] <dr_willis> Soothsayer,  i would guess that the 'classic' is a ctually unity just tweaked to LOOK like the old gnome. it is not 100% identical to the old gnome.
[15:09] <ikonia> diverdude: http://bitnami.org/faq
[15:09] <dr_willis> Soothsayer,  thats to be optional in 11.10
[15:09] <Aleuck> Soothsayer: are you sure you static ip is not in the dhcp range?
[15:09] <destinydriven> hey guys I just got an hp pavilion dvt7-6100 with switchable graphics: intel i915 and amd/ati radeon 6770. I'm having the same problem as this guy here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=122728
[15:10] <diverdude> ikonia, they have sucky support
[15:10] <wh1zz0> Unplus doesn't wor anymore
[15:10] <wh1zz0> doesnt work anymore
[15:10] <ikonia> diverdude: that's not our fault, we don't pickup the slack for these guys, it's their business
[15:10] <Soothsayer> Aleuck, well the starting ip address in the router panel for the DHCP is 192.168.1.100
[15:10] <Soothsayer> mine .25
[15:10] <Soothsayer> so i guess im not.
[15:11] <diverdude> ikonia, my question is not even bitnami related. its just "how do i install zlib on ubuntu"
[15:11] <ikonia> diverdude: it is - as it's a modified system,
[15:11] <ikonia> diverdude: we won't support it,
[15:11] <diverdude> omg
[15:11] <diverdude> that is just stupid
[15:11] <Soothsayer> Aleuck, the only thing pings successfully is my router's address / gateway 192.168.1.1
[15:11] <dr_willis> neat unity trick -> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/use-classic-menu-in-unity-classicmenu.html
[15:11] <theadmin> diverdude: That's Ubuntu.
[15:11] <ikonia> diverdude: you chose to use it
[15:11] <wols> diverdude: ask ##linux
[15:11] <theadmin> diverdude: We don't support derivatives, and I know it is stupid
[15:11] <anti_system> ikonia i'm using sshd/gdm to logon thinclient
[15:12] <destinydriven> I wanna know how to power off my radeon card so it doesn't drain my battery so quickly on 11.04
[15:12] <ikonia> anti_system: sorry, that's not the authentication system
[15:12] <ikonia> anti_system: where are you authenticating users
[15:12] <Aleuck> Soothsayer: the other pcs dont?
[15:12] <wh1zz0> wols: I just checked a video tutorial on youtube about checking /tmp folder but that method doesn't work anymore since flash updated. ...&& Sidewinder1 Just checked but it doesn't work anymore.
[15:12] <karmadragon> hey all
[15:12] <wols> destinydriven: so have you checked /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch ?
[15:13] <Sidewinder1> wh1zz0, :-(
[15:13] <wols> wh1zz0: damn!
[15:13] <reachingperfecti> wifi no detected on lenovo z570 ubuntu 11.04
[15:13] <anti_system> create on server && update image and sshkeys && and try to logon on client
[15:13] <anti_system> i only have 1
[15:13] <csdserver> hey all, i'm trying to figure out the safest way to uninstall ubuntu (i have two ubuntu filesystems on one drive) anyone know what is the best way to do this?
[15:13] <destinydriven> wols: no I haven't. I would need guidance before I go changing up stuff cuz I'm new to linux
[15:14] <wols> destinydriven: check if the file exists
[15:14] <destinydriven> wols: cool
[15:14] <anti_system> ikonia when i logon server user work
[15:14] <anti_system> not on clients
[15:14] <wh1zz0> ikonia: I didn't get the last message before I was banned on $ubuntu-offtopic.. The window closed errorneously, sorry but why was I banned?
[15:14] <ikonia> wh1zz0: please join #ubuntu-ops
[15:15] <wh1zz0> ikonia: Just did.. no response yet
[15:16] <dr_willis> csdserver,  totally depends on what your end goal is..  and what os's you want to keep
[15:16] <csdserver> well, i just need to concatenate filespace into this one install
[15:16] <wols> csdserver: you cannot "Uninstall" an OS. all you can do is overwrite it with something else
[15:17] <dm04> hi all, how do i open a terminal and a sh script when i log in on ubuntu 10.04.3, i tried googling and a few things but nothing works, help is appreciated.
[15:17] <dr_willis> csdserver,  one install of what?  use gparted and a live cd to delte/manage partitons is what i normally do.. but you will have to pay attention to your bootloaders.
[15:17] <Sidewinder1> crosspost > wh1zz0
[15:18] <dr_willis> !autorun
[15:18] <unomi> Hi - I am having an issue where when I open websites I get queried for my keyring password
[15:18] <dr_willis> dm04,  thers an Autostart directory you can copy .destop and executable scripts into..  thats how i often do it
[15:18] <unomi> This is somewhat unnerving tbh, anyone have a potential explanation?
[15:19] <csdserver> well this isn't my first go round on the 'uninstalling' part, yeah, that's the thing, last time I partitioned and reallocated space to one of my two ubuntu 11.04 filesystems my grub was completely lost.
[15:19] <dr_willis> :~/.config/autostart
[15:19] <theadmin> !fixgrub | csdserver
[15:19] <diverdude> ikonia, please stop banning people just because you have a personal grudge. that is no way to run a support forum!
[15:19] <dm04> dr_willis, thanks i will try that and let you know if it worked or not
[15:19] <IdleOne> unomi: your browser is asking the keyring if it has the password already saved for those websites. it is not the site itself
[15:19] <dr_willis> csdserver,  you can set up a little flash drive as a 'rescue' grub boot device :) which is a handy trick
[15:19] <theadmin> diverdude: This is NOT a forum, even.
[15:19] <theadmin> Oh, I'm late.
[15:20] <theadmin> ikonia: What actually happened anyway? I skipped the reason for the ban
[15:20] <Sidewinder1> theadmin, Yea, you missed the fun.
[15:20] <ikonia> theadmin: don't worry about it
[15:20] <csdserver> thats neat doc, i'll do that then.  do you have a link?
[15:20] <anti_system> ikonia when i try sshd  testuser@localhost it works
[15:20]  * Sidewinder1 Hides in the corner. :-)
[15:20] <theadmin> ikonia: Okay.
[15:20] <dr_willis> csdserver,  plug in flash drive run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc' select the flash drive... done. :)
[15:21] <dr_willis> csdserver,  good use for those litte bity old flash drives.. size dosent matter much.
[15:21] <csdserver> nice, pre-format of jump drive would be just unallocated ms-dos in gparted right?
[15:21] <dr_willis> csdserver,  be carefull oryou can install grub to hd's you may not want grub on.
[15:21] <dr_willis> grub is on the mbr. so the filesystem dont matter i belive.
[15:21] <destinydriven> wols: I get bash: cd: /sys/kernel/debug/: Permission denied
[15:22] <DrHalan> hey, when using the catalyst drivers the mouse sometimes gets "stuck" in the lower right corner of my screen. Doesn't happen with the open source driver though...
[15:22] <dr_willis> but this does NOT put the grub files on the flash.. it just puts grub on the mbr, the files still come from your normal install.
[15:22] <wols> destinydriven: sudo bash   then try again
[15:22] <theadmin> dr_willis: Well, the drive you install to does
[15:22] <destinydriven> wols: ahh thanks
[15:22] <wols> DrHalan: catalyst or fglrx from the ubuntu repos?
[15:22] <dr_willis> theadmin,  rght - it still gets the actual files from the install.. just the mbr is on the flash. so even a 128mb flash can work.
[15:23] <dm04> dr_willis: i already have a file there named startup.sh.desktop and that doesn't seem to work. it's set to Exec=sudo su /home/dm/Desktop/startup.sh is that correct or did i do anything wrong?
[15:23] <dr_willis> It would be a neat trick to put the /boot/ on a backup flash.. but keeping it updated may be harder.
[15:23] <DrHalan> wols flgrx from the repos and also flgrx from the x-updates ppa.. 3d acceleration works fine though :/
[15:23] <Guest80185> hi: how is the status of ati drivers on linux? Are there any major issues with ati cards on laptops? Would you reccomend any ati card on a laptop or nvidia is still the best option?
[15:23] <dr_willis> dm04,  i imagine 'exec=sudo su ' is totally wrong...
[15:23] <wols> dr_willis: easy. /boot/grub/ a symlink to whatever you want and you're done
[15:23] <dr_willis> dm04,  what is the script supposed t do..
[15:23] <csdserver> not until they make jump drives with wifi capability...
[15:23] <Guest80185> thank you in advance for answers
[15:23] <DrHalan> Guest80185: imo if you want to use open-source drivers ati is a better option now...
[15:24] <destinydriven> wols: file exists and contains 0:DIS: :Pwr:0000:01:00.0
[15:24] <destinydriven> 1:IGD:+:Pwr:0000:00:02.0
[15:24] <asganafer> ati drivers don't work very well in linux. I'he got a lot of problems
[15:24] <wols> destinydriven: then follow the howto you linked yourself
[15:24] <destinydriven> wols: I did
[15:24] <Guest80185> DrHalan: is it possible to watch hd movies with open drivers with ati?
[15:24] <wols> destinydriven: and then check power draw from battery again. should be lower now
[15:25] <destinydriven> the howto doesn't have a solution for #2
[15:25] <Guest80185> DrHalan: i mean, is it possible to exploit video acceleration features of videos with open-source ati drivers?
[15:25] <dm04> dr_willis: i already have a file there named startup.sh.desktop and that doesn't seem to work. it's set to Exec=sudo su /home/dm/Desktop/startup.sh is that correct or did i do anything wrong?
[15:25] <dr_willis> dm04,  i imagine 'exec=sudo su ' is totally wrong...
[15:26] <wols> destinydriven: write a xorg.conf file which explicitly uses the intel driver only
[15:26] <destinydriven> wols: how do I do that?
[15:26] <dm04> dr_willis: sorry i am not so good with ubuntu, what is the correct syntax?
[15:26] <dr_willis> dm04,  and its not clear on what you have 'where'....   You can just put the startup.sh IN the autorun directory.. no need for a foo.desktop that calls it.
[15:26] <wols> destinydriven: and blacklisting the radeon module should work fine too
[15:26] <destinydriven> wols: I'm not experienced in scripting
[15:26] <dr_willis> dm04,  what does the script do?
[15:26] <dm04> dr_willis: thanks, i'll try that
[15:27] <Guest80185> anyone with an ati card here?
[15:27] <dr_willis> lots of people have a large4 varity of ati cards...
[15:27] <unomi> IdleOne: that makes sense, that was my optimistic thought as well
[15:27] <dm04> dr_willis: well nothing at the moment really, just ifconfig stuff to test, once it's working i'm gonna use it with snort/iptables
[15:27] <dr_willis> dm04,  and i imagine it should be 'gksudo whatever.sh'
[15:27] <dr_willis> dm04,  for that stuff if it needs to be ran at boot time. You would want it in /etc/rc.local i imagine
[15:28] <DrHalan> Guest80185: no you cant use video acceleration yet. But it should be working by the end  of the summer
[15:28] <dr_willis> dm04, then it would run befor the user even logs in.
[15:28] <unomi> IdleOne: is there a way to get the 'keyring' popup to show which process / program asked for the keyring access?
[15:28] <unomi> When I looked in 'Details' it was decidedly lacking of any details
[15:28] <Guest80185> DrHalan: you mean with open drivers. What about closed source? Thanks
[15:28] <dm04> dr_willis: i only want it when the user logs in, but you say i can either do exec=gksudo whatever.sh or i can place the sh script in ~/.config/autostart ?
[15:29] <dr_willis> dm04,  yes.
[15:29] <dm04> dr_willis: great thanks, i will try that and let you know
[15:29] <dr_willis> dm04,  make sure its executable..
[15:29] <DrHalan> Guest80185: They should have support for video accleration but i'm not 100% sure though
[15:29] <unomi> Guest80185: ostensibly the closed source ones should 'perhaps' make accelerated video possible
[15:29] <dm04> dr_willis: yes, thanks for reminding me of that hehe :)
[15:29] <unomi> Guest80185: try to look through the phoronix site for details?
[15:30] <wols> destinydriven: http://paste.debian.net/124682/ should be enough
[15:30] <destinydriven> wols: thank you
[15:30] <prix> how can i put the touchpad tab in sistem->preferences-> mouse
[15:31] <destinydriven> wols: ok so where do I insert this code? In /vgaswitcheroo/switch?
[15:32] <Guest80185> unomi, DrHalan: Thanks. I have to buy a new laptop and i don't know if i can choose ati or i have to stick with nvidia as i've always done. Reading about the nvidia optimus problem with linux made me reconsider ati
[15:32] <Guest80185> sorry for my poor english
[15:33] <unomi> Guest80185: E350?
[15:33] <wols> destinydriven: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ if it exists
[15:33] <Guest80185> unomi: what?
[15:33] <gdoteof> I am on Ubuntu 9.10   -- I left my machine on for two weeks without using (it stays on all the time, but is usually used daily).  When I came back it had fallen into low graphics mode (or likely, reset).  Now it says the nvidia driver is not there.  if I mod probe it, it says 'nvidia module not found'
[15:33] <gdoteof> xconfig hasn't changed
[15:33] <dm04> dr_willis: that didn't seem to work, it doesn't require a restart, does it? i can paste the sh script if you want
[15:33] <Guest80185> unomi: E350?
[15:33] <gdoteof> and, all of the nvidia drivers are still installed
[15:33] <unomi> Guest80185: I am fighting a bit with an Asus 1215B with the AMD E-350 APU myself
[15:33] <gdoteof> (or at least, the nvidia packages)
[15:33] <wols> gdoteof: check if there is a nvidia.ko
[15:33] <gdoteof> which folder?
[15:34] <unomi> Guest80185: E350 is one of the AMD APUs for laptops
[15:34] <dury> hi there channel :)
[15:34] <wols> gdoteof: somewhere below /lib/modules
[15:34] <destinydriven> wols: thank u so much
[15:34] <wols> gdoteof: but not in /lib/modules
[15:34] <Guest80185> unomi: ok, i still have to get te laptop so i can choose. In case of problems i think i will stick with nvidia as usual
[15:35] <unomi> Guest80185: Just reread your question, I thought that you had one at the moment
[15:35] <maulana> am need, to turn on my desktop effect on ubuntu 11.04 how i do it ?????
[15:35] <xangua> gdoteof: pease use a suported version of ubuntu
[15:36] <gdoteof> xangua: sounds fair
[15:36] <dury> my question is .... I got 11.04 boot it in live... in the process of installation is it possible tochoose in which harddisk I want to to install?
[15:36] <wols> dury: of course it is. partition and its size are of course also choosable
[15:36] <dury> sorry to repear to :(
[15:36] <unomi> Guest80185: Well, I jumped on a new AMD / ATI E350 based laptop, it works quite well on ubuntu 11.04 both with the closed source and opensource drivers as far as I can tell
[15:36] <wols> maulana: what videocard and drivers?
[15:37] <dury> wols: all right.. see if I can do it :)
[15:37] <gdoteof> wols: http://pastebin.com/t4bDFDa8
[15:37] <Guest80185> unomi: so why did you write that you were fighting with the E350?
[15:37] <unomi> Guest80185: I will say though that I had some problems with running 720p movies in full screen on a 2048x1152 external screen
[15:38] <erus`> how do i install this http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/haskell-platform (a oneiric package) ?
[15:38] <xangua> !ubuntu+1| erus`
[15:38] <ThinkT510> erus`: you shouldn't
[15:38] <unomi> Guest80185: there is some noticable tearing, and with 'no-tear' / vsync it drops frames with VLC
[15:38] <erus`> ThinkT510: why not?
[15:38] <wols> gdoteof: I asked for a nvidia.ko and clearly there is none
[15:38] <Guest80185> unomi: what about hd movies at 720p without rescaling on an external screen?
[15:39] <maulana> please how i can to used desktop effect....
[15:39] <ThinkT510> erus`: oneric packages are for oneric
[15:39] <Guest80185> unomi: 2048x1152 means rescaling i guess...
[15:39] <maulana> am install ubuntuu 11.04 on my notebook lenovo g460 intel
[15:39] <unomi> Guest80185: high degree of movement gave me tearing
[15:40] <theadmin> !compiz | maulana
[15:40] <unomi> Guest80185: That said, it is a pretty new chipset, I don't doubt that it will be improved - it is flawless under windows
[15:40] <maulana> theadmin, am have do install compiz but desktop effect still not working.
[15:40] <unomi> Guest80185: also, when I tested I had compiz etc running
[15:40] <theadmin> maulana: You have to also install CCSM or a similar tool.
[15:40] <unomi> Guest80185: just a sec
[15:40] <Guest80185> unomi: you have tearing even with movies on the laptop screen, not the external one?
[15:40] <maulana> oke
[15:41] <unomi> Guest80185: for high quality ones, yes I did.
[15:41] <maulana> what the command for install ccsm on terminal theadmin
[15:41] <anti_system> Jul 31 16:37:53 X38-DS5 sshd[2420]: pam_unix(sshd:auth): authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= rhost=192.168.0.20  user=testuser
[15:41] <anti_system> Jul 31 16:37:55 X38-DS5 sshd[2420]: Failed password for testuser from 192.168.0.20 port 50956 ssh2
[15:41] <unomi> Guest80185: let me try again as I have turned compiz off
[15:41] <destinydriven> wols: I see xorg.conf but not xorg.conf.d. Should I create it?/
[15:41] <anti_system> this is auth.log when i try to login on ltsp thin client
[15:42] <Guest80185> unomi: ok, i will investigate the nvidia optimus problem. i'd like to know if this bumblebee thing works
[15:42] <gdoteof> wols: sorry.. it wasn't clear to me.  i was not sure if nvidiafb.ko was a derivative or something
[15:42] <wols> destinydriven: dunno if ubuntu has a xorg.conf.d/  and why do you have a xorg.conf in the first place? normally you shouldn't need one
[15:42] <dm04> dr_willis: are you still here?
[15:42] <anti_system> ikonia i think its a pam ou sshd config problem
[15:42] <destinydriven> wols: I didn't put that there
[15:43] <wols> destinydriven: you did. unless someone else uses your computer :)
[15:43] <dr_willis> dm04,  In and out all day
[15:43] <wols> destinydriven: make a backup. rm it and restart X to see if X still works. if it doesn't, restore the backup
[15:43] <ThinkT510> destinydriven: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[15:43] <wols> destinydriven: have you ever installed fglrx?
[15:43] <unomi> Guest80185: sure - I should say though that the system that I am on is just a slight step up from a netbook - a ~400$ 12incher
[15:43] <anti_system> someone can help me with ltsp+edubuntu/ubuntu logon problem on ltsp thin-client
[15:43] <dm04> dr_willis: i did all you said and it doesn't open a terminal, do you want to see my script or any configs?
[15:44] <xangua> wolplease stop helping an unsupported distro
[15:44] <xangua> wols:
[15:44] <unomi> Guest80185: but, yeah, unfortunately nvidia seems to support linux a bit better these days
[15:44] <destinydriven> wols: today is the first day I ever wrote/edited a script on this laptop
[15:44] <ThinkT510> destinydriven: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[15:44] <dr_willis> dm04,  start with somting simpiler.. try copying the gnome-terminal.desktop to  the autostart dir. see if that works. try a simple script that just launches gedit perhaps.
[15:44] <destinydriven> ThinkT510: 11.04
[15:44] <wols> xangua: how do you know it's unsupported?
[15:44] <Guest80185> unomi: as far as i can remember it has always been so. nvidia closed source drivers have always been better than ati's
[15:44] <dr_willis> dm04,  theres also some auto start config tool i belive
[15:44] <wols> xangua: which one's distro is unsupported?
[15:45] <destinydriven> wols: yes I tried to install fglrx earlier today. I had to uninstall it
[15:45] <heckman> I've asked i compiz, I'll ask here too. Upgraded from 10.10 -> 11.04.  When using Compiz to render in 'Ubuntu Classic' i cannot click and drag any windows.
[15:45] <theadmin> dm04: You can't use sudo in Gnome's autostart, really
[15:45] <heckman> Any thoughts?
[15:45] <wols> destinydriven: that's probably the reason
[15:45] <xangua> !eol  | wols gdoteof
[15:45] <destinydriven> wols: so I can safely remove the xorg.conf file?
[15:45] <dm04> theadmin: not the system autostart, but user autostart
[15:45] <unomi> Guest80185: nod, I am hoping that this will change in the near future though - AMD hired some more devs to work on the OpenSource side
[15:45] <wols> destinydriven: yes. check if its date is from today
[15:45] <dr_willis> dm04,  i mentioned needing 'gksudo' earier. :) instead of sudo
[15:45] <theadmin> dm04: Even worse.
[15:45] <ThinkT510> xangua: he says he is using 11.04
[15:45] <destinydriven> wols: ok
[15:46] <theadmin> dr_willis: gksu is a bad idea with autostart...
[15:46] <unomi> Guest80185: not much a consolation if you want flawless video out of the box 'nao' though
[15:46] <ThinkT510> xangua: sorry, misread
[15:46] <dr_willis> what hes was trying to add to autostart seemed like a bad idea  also... but  he seems to want to do it anyway.
[15:46] <wols> gdoteof: I'd upgrade to 10.04 LTS. that way you have some time of support in your future
[15:46] <Guest80185> unomi: i thinks i will get a laptop with an nvidia card, this bumbleebee thing seems to work
[15:46] <dm04> dr_willis: well what do you suggest me to do, if i want to run scripts that require sudo, when the user logs in?
[15:47] <theadmin> dr_willis: Yeah, plus "sudo su command" makes NO sense at all
[15:47] <wols> Guest80185: no it does not. optimus is implemented badly, very badly
[15:47] <gdoteof> wols: cool.  thanks
[15:47] <dm04> theadmin: i didn't say sudo su anywhere, if i did, it was a mistake
[15:47] <theadmin> dm04: Oh, sorry.
[15:47] <wols> Guest80185: some can work yes, but far from all
[15:47] <destinydriven> wols: yeah created date is today
[15:47] <unomi> Guest80185: Your call :)
[15:47] <wols> destinydriven: rm it with prejudice
[15:48] <Guest80185> wols: i will have to check the list of supported laptops on bumblebee site then
[15:48] <unomi> Guest80185: What I would do is take a usb stick with you and try it out at a shop
[15:48] <destinydriven> wols: ok great. Can I just rename it to something like xorg.conf.OLD?
[15:48] <unomi> Guest80185: then you can always buy it online later if that is what you want
[15:48] <dm04> theadmin: what should i do if i have to run services that has to run by root, when the user logs in?
[15:49] <theadmin> dm04: That makes no sense at all to do.
[15:49] <theadmin> dm04: You have to run those at system startup, see /etc/rc.d/ or... err, /etc/init, actually
[15:49] <wols> destinydriven: yes
[15:49] <wols> dm04: which services exactly?
[15:49] <destinydriven> wols: k thanks, gonna do that and restart. brb
[15:50] <dm04> theadmin: ok, what i want to run is snort IDS, system startup can work but the thing is, i want the user to see that there is no errors when snort IDS starts or anything
[15:50] <dr_willis> dm04,  use gksudo . but as theadmin  said. thats not great for use in auto starting stuff...
[15:51] <theadmin> dm04: Make it log it, like "snortids > /var/log/snortids.log" or something like that.
[15:51] <Guest80185> wols, unomi: by working i don't mean that the "automatic graphics switching" feature of nvidia optimus has to work. I will be satisfied if i can manage to switch the nvidia card on or off
[15:51] <Guest80185> wols, unomi: that features should be available i guess
[15:52] <dm04> theadmin: great idea, so at user startup, how do i open a gnome terminal and make it cat it?
[15:52] <unomi> Guest80185: nod, well, I don't know anything about that tbh - I wanted to get an APU for work / programming
[15:52] <dm04> user login*
[15:52] <theadmin> dm04: You do not.
[15:52] <maulana> brotha...
[15:52] <theadmin> dm04: You use that idea at system startup.
[15:52] <wols> Guest80185: it's a bit OT but: why do you need a discrete card in your laptop?
[15:52] <theadmin> dm04: And then the user reads the logs
[15:52] <Guest80185> wols: hd movies
[15:53] <maulana> am used idm on windows for download somefilee for fast and what the alternatif software on ubuntu 11.04 ?
[15:53] <wols> Guest80185: get an intel. the current ones are all fast enough by far. no need for a power hungry extra videocard
[15:53] <unomi> nod
[15:53] <dm04> theadmin: the thing is.. if i "cat logfile" on boot, it disappears so fast i dont get to see it
[15:53] <dm04> theadmin: so i wanted my ow nscript, to cat it, when the user logs in, in a terminal session
[15:53] <Guest80185> wols: will compiz work with intel cards?
[15:53] <unomi> and ION2 based board should rip through the movies due to good driver support
[15:53] <wols> yes
[15:53] <theadmin> dm04: Not on boot! You CREATE th logfile on boot, you cat it after user is logged in
[15:54] <unomi> s/and/an/
[15:54] <wols> Guest80185: that is the core 2 or core i intel chips. the atom ones not
[15:54] <unomi> Guest80185: as long as it is just movies and not games you are after
[15:54] <unomi> wols: really? I would have thought that ION2 would be more than enough for movies?
[15:54] <xt3mp0r> I'm not used to closing windows by clicking on "x" sign on the left side. In unity, is there any way i can move "x" sign to the right side? :/
[15:55] <dm04> theadmin: i must not have expressed myself clearly, the snort IDS can run at boot and output the log file. that's good. all that is covered now, but at login i just need a script to open, what's wrong with that?
[15:55] <unomi> they feature in a number of HTPC systems afaik
[15:55] <wols> unomi: buying atom+ion2 is stupid
[15:55] <wols> unomi: well, buying atom is stupid
[15:55] <unomi> wols: if what he wants is just movies..
[15:55] <theadmin> dm04: Ah, that makes perfect sense
[15:55] <erus`> i get this error when trying to install the standard package http://paste.ubuntu.com/655717/
[15:56] <theadmin> dm04: Just add something like "gedit /var/log/snortids.log" at user login
[15:56] <dr_willis> dm04,   tool to print out a log file - theres dozens of ways to do that
[15:56] <Guest80185> wols: so you are saying that if i buy any core i3 (for example) laptop with any intel card i'll be able to play hd movies (1080p) smoothly, right?
[15:56] <wols> unomi: at this point in time, Atom, any atom, is a waste of money. you bought the E350 for a reason
[15:56] <wols> Guest80185: yes
[15:56] <unomi> Guest80185: make an ubuntu usb stick and put a HD clip on it
[15:56] <Guest80185> wols: great
[15:57] <unomi> Guest80185: then go into a computer store and try it out
[15:57] <Guest80185> wols: that really makes the choice a lot easier
[15:57] <unomi> wols: I am not disagreeing - though as with anything - the right tools for the job
[15:57] <ThinkT510> erus`: what version of ubuntu are you using, and what version of the package are you trying to install?
[15:57] <wols> Guest80185: any AMD based laptop is fast enough too btw
[15:57] <fabianhjr_> Captainkrtek, hi, how are you?
[15:58] <dm04> theadmin: well, my problem before was that the terminal never appeared, i wanted to use cat, instead of a gui text editor. but i can try gedit and see if it works.
[15:58] <wols> erus`: apt-cache policy haskell-platform ghc6
[15:58] <unomi> wols, I cant get HD video to run without tearing on my E350
[15:58] <WWW-ACEHDEV-NET> VISIT
[15:58] <wols> unomi: which driver?
[15:58] <unomi> some of the A-series laptops perhaps - or perhaps I have configuration issues
[15:58] <theadmin> dm04: Oh, you might want this: gnome-terminal -e 'cat /var/log/snortids.log ; sleep 5'
[15:58] <th0r> unomi: heck, I can run it on my netbook atom.
[15:58] <th0r> But disagreeing with the experts just opens you up for personal attack
[15:58] <unomi> wols: started with the proprietary that comes with 11.04
[15:58] <WWW-ACEHDEV-NET> wols, how can i find my driver. ?
[15:58] <dm04> theadmin: ah thanks, i will just try that and let you know
[15:59] <Guest80185> wols: will the system offload the video deconding work on the intel graphic chip or will the processor do all the calculation?
[15:59] <unomi> th0r: yes, because the driver support is a bit better there, sadly
[15:59] <wols> Guest80185: depends on your video player
[15:59]  * WWW-ACEHDEV-NET how support desktop effect
[15:59] <erus`> ThinkT510: wols: http://paste.ubuntu.com/655719/
[15:59] <th0r> unomi: the secret is to not waste resources on unnecessary stuff. For one thing, turn off compiz!
[15:59] <Guest80185> wols: smplayer?
[15:59] <induz> I have 1 Gb USB Drive...what is the name of the OS Linux that i can install and boot from it
[15:59] <unomi> wols: the I tried to install the new one from the AMD site, 11.7 as I remember
[15:59] <bkerensa> For some reason boinc is still running in background weeks after I apt-get removed can someone tell me how to nuke it  for good?
[16:00] <unomi> th0r: I agree, I didn't remember to turn off compiz the first time around
[16:00] <fabianhjr_> Is it normal that ubiquity(Ubuntu installer) shows 1/8 of the total capacity?(2.9TB as 380 GiB)
[16:01] <theadmin> fabianhjr_: No, not at all!
[16:01] <theadmin> fabianhjr_: It's dangerous to install like that.
[16:01] <unomi> wols: How can I see which driver I am running at the moment?
[16:01] <wols> Guest80185: mplayer can use VA-API for intel and ati, and vdpau for nvidia
[16:01]  * WWW-ACEHDEV-NET VISIT WWW.ACEHDEV.NET FOR MORE INFO
[16:02] <fabianhjr_> theadmin, I cannot install at all. It is an external hdd, there is no data to loose, though it fails at the end installing the bootloader.
[16:02] <unomi> wols: lsmod -> drm                   184133  4 radeon,ttm,drm_kms_helper
[16:02] <theadmin> oCean: Thanks.
[16:02] <Renski> Anyone knowledgable with Libre Office calc ?
[16:02] <theadmin> Renski: Me, theoretically, why?
[16:02] <IdleOne> #libreoffice is
[16:03] <wols> unomi Guest80185 http://www.splitted-desktop.com/~gbeauchesne/mplayer-vaapi/
[16:03] <Omega> !ask Renski
[16:03] <wols> unomi: Xorg.0.log tells you
[16:03] <Omega> !ask | Renski
[16:03] <wols> unomi: either it runs radeon or fglrx
[16:03] <fabianhjr_> theadmin, I know it has to do with my drive having 4k sectors instead of 512, though Disk Utility shows the correct capacity.
[16:03] <induz> any version that can fit into 1gb USB
[16:04] <unomi> wols: from lsmod I would imagine that it runs radeon, I don't see any mention of fglrx in lsmod
[16:04] <Renski> theadmin: ive got a table, with the x and y axis have column and row names. I want to pull a value out of that table, based on the contents of two cells, which will match a row and a column. kind of like a vlookup and a hlookup at the same time. Is there a function to do this?
[16:04] <fabianhjr_> induz, Puppy Linux, 40 mb last time I checked.
[16:04] <carrion> I've installed Gnome3 but i seem to be missing part of the theme, it's usingg metacity or something for the window manager
[16:04] <carrion> any ideas what i'm missing
[16:04] <Guest80185> wols: so for example aCore™ i5-460M with hm55 chipset is perfectly capable of running compiz and of accelerating hd movies?
[16:05] <wols> Guest80185: yes
[16:05] <dli> unomi, fglrx won't load, if radeon detected
[16:05] <fabianhjr_> Guest80185, an i3 can also do HD and acceleration.
[16:05] <ThinkT510> carrion: gnome3 isn't supported here
[16:05] <fabianhjr_> (Only the Sandybridge model)
[16:05] <bkerensa> oh damn
[16:05] <induz> fabianhjr_, what version is good fast and easy to have the basic
[16:06] <carrion> ThinkT510, +1 ?
[16:06] <bkerensa> >.< apt-get just did something super wicked... It started removing all of my core packages (wifi driver, software center, everythings)
[16:06] <wols> bkerensa: so which package did you want to remove?
[16:06] <ThinkT510> carrion: what?
[16:06] <fabianhjr_> inudz, Puppy is the smallest distro I am aware of. Ubuntu there was a netbook edition, no longer.
[16:06] <theadmin> fabianhjr_: SliTaz.
[16:06] <girlygirl> bkerensa: apt-get ask you to confirm changes normally
[16:07] <xangua> !une | induz fabianhjr_
[16:07] <Guest80185> wols, fabianhjr_: thanks, great. now the problem is to find a laptop with only intel card. The majority has an nvidia or ati card...
[16:07] <Guest80185> at least in shopping malls here in italy
[16:07] <bkerensa> girlygirl: I know and it didnt confirm these changes at all.... Its like it some how went berzerk and decided to nuke me :P
[16:07] <fabianhjr_> xangua, I am aware of that, thereby the "no longer"
[16:08] <wols> Guest80185: wrong. the vast majority has intel only
[16:08] <girlygirl> bkerensa: What exactly were you doing when this happened
[16:08] <ThinkT510> fabianhjr_: there is also tinycore, but this is getting off-topic; you could try the ubuntu mini iso
[16:08] <koichirose> Hi, I'm trying to build the passenger apache module on a low memory box. I have approx 210mb free, but get 'virtual memory exhausted'. What are my options?
[16:08] <wols> Guest80185: around 60% I'd guess have only intel video
[16:08] <timepilot> is unity still the planned UI for all future ubuntu releases?
[16:08] <wols> koichirose: add swap
[16:08] <girlygirl> koichirose: swap or swapfile maybe
[16:08] <induz> i have downloaded and installed austurumi iso...hiow can I find where it is in my system in UNEBootIn
[16:08] <fabianhjr_> theadmin, after searching a bit I don't recognize SliTaz. :/
[16:08] <xangua> timepilot: yes
[16:09] <theadmin> fabianhjr_: It's the smallest usable distro, fits in 30mb.
[16:09] <koichirose> wols, girlygirl: I read I can't do it on an OpenVZ VPS?
[16:09] <wims> ubuntu and small / minimal doesnt really go hand in hand, you'd be better off with a distro designed for that purpose
[16:09] <wols> induz: downloaded how? with what browser?
[16:09] <bkerensa> girlygirl: apt-get remove devscripts ubuntu-dev-tools debhelper dh-make diff patch cdbs quilt gnupg      fakeroot lintian  pbuilder piuparts
[16:09] <wols> koichirose: you are right. can't do it there
[16:09] <induz> mozilla
[16:09] <args[0]> Hi, I have a VPS server running Ubuntu 10.04, I'm having some problems with PHP.. I did install it but doesnt run from var/www no idea why, hope someone can help. thanks
[16:09] <timepilot> oh well, ubuntu had a good run.  time to move on
[16:09] <wols> then go into your download manager there, right click on it and open the containing folder
[16:09] <Guest80185> wols: i don't know where you live but searching in the italian version of asus website and in the "mediaworld" online shopping site i can find a few ones
[16:09] <koichirose> wols, ok. no other options?
[16:09] <fabianhjr_> theadmin, oh great. I will keep it in mind. Smallest I knew was Puppy on 40mb. xD So you took 25% less space.
[16:10] <bkerensa> args[0]: #ubuntu-server handles that support
[16:10] <girlygirl> bkerensa: hmm try aptitude instead of apt-get
[16:10] <args[0]> thanks bkerensa !
[16:10] <wols> koichirose: no
[16:10] <Guest80185> wols: i will go anyway to a pc store by the way
[16:10] <bkerensa> girlygirl: Yeah gonna backup some stuff real fast and reboot and see if Ubuntu even boots :P
[16:11] <fabianhjr_> theadmin, I still don't know what to do about he ubiquity issue. Already filed a bug report with syslog and partman logs.
[16:11] <balvinder25> hello all, i need to sync my ipod shuffle in ubuntu 10.
[16:11] <balvinder25> 10.04*
[16:12] <theadmin> fabianhjr_: It's unlikely the Ubuntu team will bother to fix any bugs, all they do is making more of that
[16:12] <ikonia> !ipod | balvinder25
[16:12] <balvinder25> how do i get do it, currently its not getting detected..
[16:12] <fabianhjr_> Oh I see, so what do you suggest I do? Go with other distro?
[16:12] <theadmin> args[0]: C# programmer?
[16:12] <timepilot> thx to unity, mint has almost passed ubuntu on distrowatch
[16:12] <destinydriven> wols: so apparently using that code in xorg.conf.d caused a freeze. Removed xorg.conf.d and reboot and same thing happened. I was only able to boot normally when I restored the original xorg.conf. Which is weird cuz the first time I booted after removing it, everything started up fine
[16:12] <wols> destinydriven: so what driver are you currently using?
[16:12] <ThinkT510> timepilot: do you require any support?
[16:13] <induz> how can i search .iso files in my syatem
[16:13] <destinydriven> wols: I don't have a clue
[16:13] <Guest80185> wols: sorry to bother you again but can you link me a review testing the hd video performance of intel cards with linux? should i look for it in the phoronix website?
[16:13] <timepilot> well ... i either have to change the UI to something else (gnome3, etc) or change distros
[16:13] <destinydriven> wols: here is the result of my lspci | grep VGA
[16:13] <induz> how to use wild acrd like *
[16:13] <ThinkT510> timepilot: you could give xfce a try
[16:14] <induz> to search a file
[16:14] <args[0]> theadmin: yeah
[16:14] <fabianhjr_> induz, download them, there should not come any iso by default.
[16:14] <induz> I downloaded a iso linux but i dont know where it is
[16:14] <ThinkT510> !xubuntu | timepilot
[16:14] <args[0]> theadmin: should focus on open source from now on
[16:14] <Guest80185> wols: or maybe you just have a laptop with an intel card and you can just tell me about the performance with videos
[16:14] <fabianhjr_> ~/Downloads?
[16:14] <destinydriven> wols: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[16:14] <destinydriven> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 6740
[16:14] <m1chael> is this really as good as it sounds? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer
[16:14] <girlygirl> Guest80185: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel_corei3_2100&num=1
[16:14] <wols> destinydriven: glxinfo |grep render
[16:14] <dm04> theadmin: So I made a sh script and placed it in ~/.config/autostart with the syntax you provided and chmod +x'ed it. It reads a test file, not snort ids, haven't got that setup yet at system startup. However, when I login no terminal appears. My sh script contains first line "#!/bin/bash" and second line "gnome-terminal -e 'cat /home/dm/Desktop/a.log ; sleep 5'". What could be the issue?
[16:14] <timepilot> just frustrated ... unity (even if a good idea, don't think it was) was rushed out the door.
[16:15] <xangua> m1chael: i preffer a real install
[16:15] <zykotick9> induz, is it an .iso file?  if so you could try "find / -name *.iso 2>/dev/null"
[16:15] <ThinkT510> timepilot: i don't use unity and rather wouldn't but this is a support channel, if you came to just complain take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:16] <my_nick_is_lnger> m1chael: nor install is better
[16:16] <timepilot> fair enough
[16:16] <theadmin> dm04: odd, that should work
[16:16] <destinydriven> wols: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Sandybridge Mobile GEM 20100330 DEVELOPMENT
[16:16] <my_nick_is_lnger> m1chael: *normal
[16:16] <unomi> timepilot: when you login you can choose which WM to use - you don't have to use unity at all
[16:16] <dm04> theadmin: Are there any other methods to start scripts at user login?
[16:16] <theadmin> dm04: I'm not sure, sorry.
[16:16] <wols> destinydriven: very strange indeed
[16:17] <dm04> theadmin: ah okay, but thanks for your help and idea, it is much appreciated :)
[16:17] <args[0]> no one's answering me on #ubuntu-server, anyway.. suppose it is a local Ubuntu OS (not VPS) how can I get PHP to work? I installed LAMP server but cant get PHP files to run from /var/www thanks!
[16:17] <fabianhjr_> theadmin, what do you suggest I do to get Ubuntu installed? Switch distro and be happy?
[16:17] <timepilot> unomi:  i know but so much baggage, might as well use another distro or start w/minimal install.
[16:17] <destinydriven> wols: remember I followed that script in the link I sent earlier. Could that have something to do with it?
[16:17] <biggi_mat> args[0], simply run aptitude install php5
[16:17] <wols> args[0]: what happens if you try to open a http://site/index.php  file?
[16:17] <wols> destinydriven: no
[16:17] <julqui> tengo un problema con ubuntu
[16:17] <theadmin> !it | julqui
[16:17] <args[0]> wols: it shows as empty webpage, nothing to output...
[16:17] <wols> !es
[16:18] <fabianhjr_> theadmin, itr is spanish es
[16:18] <fabianhjr_> !es | julqui
[16:18] <args[0]> biggi_mat: even after installing LAMP? doesn't LAMP already have PHP included?
[16:18] <julqui> ok gracias
[16:18] <Guest80185> girlygirl: thanks but i can't see d video benchmarks in that review, i'm looking for a mobile processor by the way. The one you linked is a desktop one
[16:18] <wols> args[0]: how did you install "LAMP" exactly?
[16:18] <destinydriven> wols: to blacklist I have to use lsmod . . . something like that?
[16:18] <wols> !blacklist
[16:18] <destinydriven> modprobe?
[16:18] <girlygirl> Guest80185: well doesn't it depend on the exact gpu
[16:18] <biggi_mat> args[0], no, not really. I don't understand why someone would use LAMP anyway
[16:19] <args[0]> wols "sudo apt-get install lamp-server^"
[16:19] <wols> girlygirl: it's a sandybridge. that one has only one GPU (weill there are two but not in any meaningful way)
[16:19] <args[0]> biggi_mat: ok so what should I do?
[16:19] <wols> !info lamp-server
[16:19] <wols> args[0]: so what ubuntu doe you run exactly?
[16:19] <args[0]> biggi_mat: I need PHP/MySQL/Apache
[16:19] <args[0]> wols: ubuntu 10.04
[16:20] <args[0]> wols: server
[16:20] <biggi_mat> args[0], simply install them all?
[16:20] <biggi_mat> aptitude has every single one of those
[16:20] <wols> args[0]: apt-cache policy lamp-server
[16:20] <Infernet> hey all
[16:20] <Guest80185> girlygirl, wols: what drivers are needed for the intel graphic chips integrated in the processor (i3, i5 etc.). Will the one installed by ubuntu just work?
[16:21] <girlygirl> Guest80185: They work out of the box
[16:21] <wols> Guest80185: it will just work.
[16:21] <destinydriven> biggi_mat: google 'the perfect server ubuntu 11.04'  or whatever your version is. There are very detailed howto for setting up lamp
[16:21] <girlygirl> Guest80185: in package xserver-video-intel included by default
[16:21] <args[0]> wols: unable to locate pakage 0_0
[16:21] <biggi_mat> destinydriven, tell that to args :)
[16:21] <rkeiii> How can I install kernel 3.0 rc7 on ubuntu 11.04? Do I have to manually download the .deb archives?
[16:21] <destinydriven> yeah, that was meant for args[0]
[16:21] <args[0]> wols: does that mean it is not installed?
[16:21] <Guest80185> girlygirl, wols: Thanks. So all this frenzy about powerful graphic cards on laptops is about gaming, right?
[16:21] <rkeiii> or can i just add the kernel ppa and install form there or?
[16:22] <wols> args[0]: then what did you install. obviously your apt-get install lamp-server wasn't true
[16:22] <wols> !ppa | rkeiii
[16:22] <destinydriven> wols: what if I just add that code you pastied to xorg.conf?
[16:23] <girlygirl> Guest80185: Most new cards with working drivers will provide a similar experience on linux on windows no as win has more intensive games
[16:23] <args[0]> wols: ran the command again and got : "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded." so I guess it is already installed
[16:23] <rkeiii> wols: yes i found the kernel ppa
[16:23] <rkeiii> wols: should i be able to install 3.0 from that?
[16:23] <wols> args[0]: doesn't tell us what you actually installed.  run dpkg -l |grep php
[16:23] <ThinkT510> rkeiii: i would advise against it, can't you wait for 11.10?
[16:24] <destinydriven> ThinkT510: how soon will 11.10 be released? Its not even beta yet
[16:24] <rkeiii> ThinkT510: I just got a X220... and I want to run a 2560x1600 monitor over displayport.. afaik 3.0 fixes this
[16:24] <godlywhizken> yo yo yo
[16:24] <wols> destinydriven: it will be released in october, duh!
[16:24] <Guest80185> girlygirl: ok thanks. I'm interested in compiz and videos. I'll look for a review of a core i3, i5 processor and get a laptop with that.
[16:24] <godlywhizken> whats the command to add a user?
[16:24] <oscalation> can anyone give me any  information regarding external hdd. im looking to purchase an external usb hdd (the small ones) am im considering purchasing a laptop hdd with an enclosure over a manufactured external like .. seagate portable. Can anyone tell me if one of these methods is preferred over the other? Is it better to buy a name brand manufactored external hdd? Even though i cant take it apart and pull the drive out are they supposed to last
[16:24] <oscalation> longer?
[16:24] <zykotick9> destinydriven, ubuntu versions are the release date - so 11.10 = 2011, 10th month (October)
[16:24] <args[0]> wols: got this: http://pastebin.com/MmLXe7iv
[16:24] <wols> godlywhizken: adduser
[16:24] <destinydriven> wols: :) nice
[16:24] <AskWizard> Hi Everybody
[16:24] <godlywhizken> i didi apropas adduser but q/e
[16:24] <godlywhizken> oic... you have to be root to run command duh..
[16:24] <girlygirl> Guest80185: My gma 950 on intel atom seems to handle everything !
[16:25] <destinydriven> zykotick9: ahh, I wasn't aware of that. Thanks
[16:25] <Guest80185> girlygirl: even 1080p videos?
[16:25] <Guest80185> girlygirl: on youtube for example?
[16:25] <girlygirl> Guest80185: Yes I was stunned at that but it works, used to not work when I had a driver issue
[16:25] <dli> can I switch audio output without using pulseaudio?
[16:26] <Guest37909> anyone here use Lubuntu?
[16:26] <VampiR3> on atom with G-card OR without ?
[16:26] <monsterr> the Lubuntu IRC seems unresponsive
[16:26] <girlygirl> Guest80185: Though if doing too much at once it will slow down then just disable desktop effects and such
[16:26] <monsterr> Whenever I place a file in my documents folder it goes on the desktop too
[16:26] <dli> can I switch audio output (between analog and HDMI) without using pulseaudio?
[16:27] <guntbert> oscalation: that kind of question seems best asked in ##hardware
[16:28] <Guest80185> girlygirl: unbelievable. if hdvideos work with an atom (which i doubt :-)  but i'm not interested in atoms anyway) they should work properly on an i3 or i5!
[16:28] <preecher> when i plug in a usb flasf drive it places an icon on my desktop --is there a way i can have it to display in the top panel instead? ubuntu 11.04 unity
[16:28] <girlygirl> Guest80185: I assure you they do, but I my netbook as a twin cpu config two atoms
[16:28] <wols> args[0]: create this http://paste.debian.net/124686/ as a test.php file in /var/www and access it then with a browser. it should output stuff
[16:28] <potatoe> can anyone recommend a "how to upgrade from 8.04 to 10.04" in french for a non-technical user running Ubuntu ( gnome ) ?
[16:29] <wols> Guest80185: HD videos worked since the first core duo with X3100 just fine
[16:29] <fabianhjr_> potatoe, everything is automatic. Just like a normal upgrade.
[16:29] <wols> Guest80185: that was around 7 years ago or so
[16:29] <dm04> I'm having an issue with user login startup scripts, I made a simple sh script that runs "gnome-terminal -e 'cat /home/dm/Desktop/a.log ; sleep 5'" and I ran chmod +x on it. When I log in to my user account, no terminal appears or cat output. What could be the issue?
[16:29] <aauthor> Is it OK to ask lubuntu questions here?
[16:29] <wols> aauthor: just ask
[16:29] <godlywhizken> author, yes lubuntu only has a different front end
[16:30] <godlywhizken> the core is all the same, aauthor
[16:30] <ThinkT510> potatoe: have you asked in #ubuntu-fr
[16:30] <oscalation> guntbert, thanks
[16:30] <aauthor> OK, I just did a fresh install, and everything is working great except for the sound.  I've tried doing some googling, but I haven't had any joy yet.
[16:30] <Guest80185> girlygirl, woes: on my atom n270 hd videos won't play smoothly. but i don't expect that from a netbook
[16:30] <chris__> i have a question for someone
[16:31] <godlywhizken> aauthor, did you check to see if card was supported and if it needed a driver installed(proprietary)?
[16:31] <Guest80185> girlygirl, woes: by the way the important thing is that i do not need an ati or nvidia card to do what i i want to do! :-)
[16:31] <guntbert> !ask | chris__
[16:31] <girlygirl> Guest80185: works for me but desktop effects whould be off
[16:31] <monsterr> aauthor I've had this problem once I tried many things, I just did another fresh install and it worked.
[16:31] <wols> aauthor: what soundcard?
[16:32] <Stormx2> Hey - finally got around to installing 11.04 and theres some new kind of scrollbar in certain applications (pidgin etc) that's tiny and I can only use once I mouseover and wait for some slider to appear next to it. How can I get the old scrollbars back?
[16:32] <aauthor> godlywhizken, I did check for a propriety driver with no luck.  I'm using an acer aspire 5253.
[16:32] <FZombie> or motherboard model if its onboard
[16:32] <monsterr> oh and the soundcard might not be supported :P
[16:32] <aauthor> The sound was working with ubuntu earlier this week.
[16:32] <args[0]> wols: it works thanks, it was a stupid mistake... the file i was testing on was a .html file, lol
[16:32] <girlygirl> Stormx2: Find a different gtk theme and apply it
[16:33] <Stormx2> girlygirl, already have.
[16:33] <godlywhizken> aauthor, i suggest you do another fresh install like monsterr said... if it was working earlier
[16:33] <claviusmond> i need to copy several files from several folders into a single folder, problem is they are all named by a letter of the alphabet, but the content of each file is different. Is there any command I can use NOT to overwrite files that are named the same?
[16:33] <ThinkT510> Stormx2: do you have a mouse wheel?
[16:33] <Stormx2> ThinkT510, I do
[16:33] <chris__> i am a noob so bear with me. i installed a program to read and write ntfs, well when i rebooted it would boot it says it is stuck in read only and wont boot no further.
[16:33] <godlywhizken> chiris__, you probably have to change file permissions with chmod
[16:34] <ThinkT510> Stormx2: does that work, i would have thought you wouldn't need to hover over the scrollbar
[16:34] <wols> chris__: what program exactly?
[16:34] <girlygirl> chris__: Ubuntu can r/w ntfs volumes on its own
[16:34] <balvinder25> hello people i need some help with an ipod shuffle
[16:34] <ikonia> chris__: you shouldn't need to install anything
[16:34] <zeroflag> hello everyone
[16:34] <godlywhizken> i'm out of here... idk what i'm talking about lol
[16:34] <moln> hey guys is there any way to download wubi installer for ubuntu 10.10?
[16:34] <chris__> wols i think it was like ntfs 3g or somthing like that
[16:34] <balvinder25> i cannot see as its getting detected at all in ubuntu 10.04
[16:34] <aauthor> godlywhizken, ok I'll give it a try.
[16:34] <balvinder25> its not getting detected
[16:35] <moln> apparently on the official website, I can only download the newest version
[16:35] <mrsunshine> hmm
[16:35] <chris__> but i cant get in a gui all i have is command promt and im not that good at it
[16:35] <ikonia> chris__: did you install the ubuntu desktop version ?
[16:35] <zeroflag> how would I set up ubuntu to boot from usb (currently it's booted inside a vbox, intending to use it as a rescure-system) and share files from local hdds (ntfs formated)?
[16:35] <chris__> yes
[16:35] <ikonia> chris__: has the desktop every worked ?
[16:35] <monsterr> zeroflag use pen drive linux
[16:35] <girlygirl> chris__: what did you install exactly (which was not needed to r/w ntfs)
[16:35] <monsterr> www.pendrivelinux.com
[16:35] <mrsunshine> when playing movies in totem (and probably others) the overlay lays over everything all the time, making it impossible to multitask etc what can be wrong? :/ (using catalyst driver)
[16:35] <chris__> yes, i was using it tell i rebooted
[16:35] <monsterr> download a ISO
[16:35] <zeroflag> it's already on the usb-drive, I just need the samba/ntfs-setup
[16:36] <ikonia> chris__: what did you change that stopped it working ?
[16:36] <wols> ikonia: he has filesystem troubles. "read only" means / was remounted read only and then he was dumped to a console
[16:36] <ikonia> wols: ahhh, the missing part
[16:36] <moln> HEEELP I NEED WUUUBIII
[16:36] <moln> xD
[16:36] <monsterr> you need persistence
[16:36] <ikonia> moln: please don't do that
[16:36] <tyler_d> I have installed an older kernel to resolve sleep/suspend issues with s2disk, how do I add that option to grub2?
[16:36] <balvinder25> hello people i need some help with an ipod shuffle
[16:36] <balvinder25> its not getting detected
[16:36] <balvinder25> pls help
[16:36] <ikonia> moln: if you want help, ask a qestion and wait for a response
[16:37] <ikonia> !ipod | balvinder25
[16:37] <girlygirl> zeroflag: just select the usb drive when you install ubuntu be sure to select boot also on the usb disk
[16:37] <chris__> all i did was go into ntfs config and set /dev/sda1 checked to r/w  then i had to reboot for updateds
[16:37] <wols> balvinder25: have you checked your kernel log when you plug it in?
[16:37] <girlygirl> tyler_d: sudo update-initramfs
[16:37] <moln> ikonia: I asked a question
[16:37] <girlygirl> tyler_d: then sudo update-grub2
[16:37] <zeroflag> girlygirl: thanks, but it already boots from usb. I just need the ntfs/samba-setup. ;)
[16:37] <ikonia> moln: so now you wait for a response
[16:37] <moln> and 1475 people ignored it :(
[16:37] <balvinder25> how do i check it.. im new to this
[16:37] <wols> chris__: what program EXACTLY did you install? and from where?
[16:37] <moln> ikonia: yeah, but I don't think it's coming anymore
[16:37] <tyler_d> girlygirl: tyvm :) didn't realize it was that simple, I was looking for a menu.lst
[16:38] <IdleOne> moln: would you rather 1475 people all answer "we don't know" ?
[16:38] <chris__> ntfs 3g from tuxera
[16:38] <zeroflag> I want a samba/ntfs-setup that automatically mounts and shares all local drives (outside /)
[16:38] <wols> moln: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+10.10+download
[16:38] <ikonia> moln: so in that case shouting HELP does nothing but get you removed from the channel
[16:38] <girlygirl> tyler_d: You're welcome
[16:38] <tyler_d> girlygirl: I think that first one is missing a switch
[16:38] <girlygirl> zeroflag: is ntfs drive on network share?
[16:39] <zeroflag> girlygirl: no, it's local. I want to share it through samba.
[16:39] <claviusmond> if i hve several folder named the same, is there any wayI can add a number to differenciate?
[16:39] <moln> ikonia: oh ok I'm sorry…didn't mean to cause trouble or whatever
[16:39] <wols> claviusmond: mv foldername foldername2
[16:39] <girlygirl> zeroflag:  1 moment
[16:39] <wols> moln: have you seen my answer?
[16:40] <moln> wols: yes thanks but where can I find the wubi installer?
[16:40] <girlygirl> zeroflag: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/share-ubuntu-home-directories-using-samba/ and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1756575
[16:40] <claviusmond> wols, there are like 40 folders named the same, mv, if mv is move it will only rename one, wont it?
[16:40] <zeroflag> girlygirl: thank you. :)
[16:40] <balvinder25> ok wols i have the kernel log what do i need to look out for ?
[16:40] <moln> I'm just seeing like: desktop, server, netbook etc
[16:41] <girlygirl> moln: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer
[16:41] <moln> at least, in the first result
[16:41] <balvinder25> anything specific to ipod or something ?
[16:41] <girlygirl> zeroflag: You're Welcome
[16:41] <ikonia> balvinder25: did you read the links ubottu gave you ?
[16:41] <wols> moln: http://mirror2.hs-esslingen.de/releases.ubuntu.com//10.10/wubi.exe  (and any other ubuntu mirror would work too btw)
[16:41] <moln> girlygirl: I need to 10.10 version :)
[16:41] <chris__> this is the result i get "the device /dev/sda1 doesnt seem to have a valid ntfs
[16:42] <dm04> I'm having an issue with user login startup scripts, I made a simple sh script that runs "gnome-terminal -e 'cat /home/dm/Desktop/a.log ; sleep 5'" and I ran chmod +x on it and placed it in ~/.config/autostart of course. When I log in to my user account, no terminal appears or cat output. What could be the issue?
[16:42] <ikonia> chris__: remove that line from your /etc/fstab
[16:42] <chris__> how do i do that
[16:42] <ikonia> chris__: how did you put it in ?
[16:42] <wols> moln: and the bottom of the page from that downloadpage you got via my first link, there also is a wubi.exe.   Why don't you look anywhere but simply whine and complain?
[16:42] <chris__> i didnt put it in.
[16:42] <moln> wols: thank you so much man
[16:43] <ikonia> chris__: is your install a wubi install ?
[16:43] <chris__> yeah
[16:44] <Speedfx> Is there any way to use the alternate version of ubuntu with wubi?
[16:44] <claviusmond> what does rename 's/^/1_/' do?
[16:44] <ikonia> chris__: then I'm afraid I can't help you, as I don't support wubi
[16:44] <Alain_> Hello, I disabled everything in Compiz and now everything is screwed up. I saw a solution to default it, but I can't even open the terminal. Please help!
[16:45] <girlygirl> Alain_: Alt + F2 matacity --replace
[16:45] <girlygirl> edit metacity
[16:45] <tyler_d> girlygirl: btw, it is `update-initramfs -c -k <<kernel version>>(or all)` ty for the direction :)
[16:45] <Alain_> alt+d2 doesnt work. NOTHING works. I barely got into the browser
[16:46] <Alain_> alt+f2
[16:46] <claviusmond> is there a tool that does what rename 's/^/1_/' does, but not for files, but directories?
[16:46] <wols> claviusmond: directories are files too
[16:46] <zykotick9> wols, so are devices ;)
[16:46] <Alain_> girlygirl:  that doesnt work. I cant open the terminal either
[16:47] <qin> claviusmond: find . -type d ....
[16:47] <girlygirl> Alain_: using the mouse try creating a textfile
[16:47] <girlygirl> Alain_: Tell me if you manage that
[16:47] <Alain_> girlygirl:  I just created a new file.txt
[16:48] <Speedfx> Seems simply renaming the file doesnt work
[16:48] <OmegaForte> Wow, chanserv is broken.
[16:48] <girlygirl> Alain_: In the textfile (open it) and on line 1 type "metacity --replace" without quotes
[16:49] <OmegaForte> girlygirl, What, someone got an issue with their windowmanager?
[16:49] <Alain_> girlygirl:  done, what next?
[16:49] <girlygirl> Alain_:  save and close, then right click properties on the file
[16:50] <girlygirl> Alain_: first before properties rename file to text.sh
[16:50] <dr_willis> claviusmond,  find can do it with the proper optionbs/arguments..
[16:50] <girlygirl> Alain_: then in properties find an option to make file exectutable
[16:51] <Alain_> girlygirl:  done
[16:51] <girlygirl> Alain_:  http://ma65p.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/screenshot-jre-1_5_0_12-linux-i586-copybin-properties.png?w=364&h=444
[16:51] <claviusmond> rename 's/^/1_/' last seems not to work, but for i in *; do mv $i 1_$i; done did the thing
[16:51] <girlygirl> Alain_:  run the file by clicking
[16:52] <Alain_> girlygirl:  do I run it in terminal or what?
[16:52] <Guest80185> girlygirl, wols: I hope this guide is outdated because it seems that using vaapi hw acceleration with i3, i5 on linux is a mess http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?t=86581
[16:52] <girlygirl> Alain_: Just run it double click it
[16:52] <dr_willis> claviusmond,  i always cheat and just use 'qmv' and a text editor for bulk renaming.
[16:52] <Alain_> girlygirl:  yea, but it gives me a box with several options
[16:53] <induz> I have 1 gb USB stick i want to format is to make it bootable with Austurumi Linux
[16:53] <claviusmond> dr_willis, link? or more detalied explanation please
[16:53] <dr_willis> induz,   most of the iso-> pendrive tools will do that
[16:53] <girlygirl> what options?
[16:53] <Alain_> run in terminal, display or run
[16:53] <Alain_> girlygirl: run in terminal, display or run
[16:54] <girlygirl> Alain_:  run
[16:54] <dr_willis> claviusmond,  qmv is part of the renameutils package. with a lot of  specialized renameing tools  'man qmv' or how i normally call it -->      qmv -f do -e geany  *.txt             (for example)
[16:54] <induz> I have UNEbootin
[16:54] <me-1> hi...what is the price of latest Ubuntu version
[16:54] <dr_willis> induz,  it just needs to be a fat16 or fat32 filesystem then.
[16:54] <induz> but when I instll the OS, the USB fails to boot
[16:54] <Alain_> girlygirl:  ahh. now I can move my windows but I still dont have the taskbar or start menu
[16:54] <ThinkT510> me-1: free
[16:54] <OmegaForte> me-1, It's 199.99 in Kangaroo pelts and boomerangs.
[16:54] <makara> on 11.04: why would a dhclient timeout occur when trying to connect a to mobile broadband?
[16:54] <dr_willis> induz,  could be  a dozen issues.. none of which are really ubuntu related.. depeng on how its failing..
[16:55] <Alain_> girlygirl: terminal works now. Can I use the compiz default command?
[16:55] <girlygirl> Alain_: which version of ubuntu
[16:55] <desss> could anyone help me with dual monitors in Ubuntu, so far the other monitor acts like it is not even connected (it is plugged though) - to run some tests maybe?
[16:55] <OmegaForte> desss, Sure. Nvidia or ATI?
[16:55] <Alain_> girlygirl:  11.04 Will this solution work? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-tip-how-to-reset-compiz-settings-to-default-system-settings-from-command-line.html
[16:56] <girlygirl> Alain_: Try if it doesn;t work click the text file
[16:56] <desss> OmegaForte: nVidia as the extern one, Intel as the motherboard one
[16:56] <induz> how can i make that .iso to be on my USB drive
[16:56] <girlygirl> Alain_: let me have a look
[16:56] <girlygirl> Alain_: yes then run "compiz --replace"
[16:56] <girlygirl> Alain_: After the gide I mean
[16:57] <me-1> ThinkT510, free how...?? pirated
[16:57] <desss> OmegaForte: so far it kind of works weird, e.g. when I log out/in, the 2nd monitor "blinks" at least, normally it does not do anything, even though it is plugged
[16:57] <me-1> OmegaForte, what is that currency
[16:57] <OmegaForte> desss, Okay, you're using multi-gpu's that aren't the same. You're going to have to referr to a manpage to figure this one out.
[16:57] <OmegaForte> me-1, It's a gag. All linux is free.
[16:57] <girlygirl> Alain_: If taksbar is not there after that run "" well I don't know the command for unity I use KDE someone help me out here
[16:57] <ThinkT510> me-1: ubuntu is distrubuted under the gpl liscence
[16:58] <ThinkT510> !gpl | me-1
[16:58] <OmegaForte> Alain_, If you're having trouble with your window manager, tell me what it's doing.
[16:58] <Alain_> girlygirl: it didnt work. OmegaForte  I disabled everything in Compiz and now I dont have taskbar or start menu
[16:58] <me-1> OmegaForte, how can it be free ...its an OS
[16:58] <SexyBoBo> ok each time i boot ubuntu i have to fsck to boot it and it always has several errors. Drive is shot right?
[16:59] <Hamradio2008> My internet connection on my TV says my internet speed is 35 to 37 Mps is that good or bad???
[16:59] <OmegaForte> Alain_, did you disable compiz first?
[16:59] <desss> OmegaForte: what manpage should I read? Ubuntu installed some experimental nVidia drivers I think
[16:59] <jigg> hello guys. Im having some difficulties with gnome using laptop+monitor:
[16:59] <zykotick9> ThinkT510, saying "ubuntu" is distributed under GPL is an over-simplification, which isn't entirely true.  Much of ubuntu is GPL, but certainly not ALL of it.
[16:59] <jigg> after setting a different resolution on my monitor [1280x1024 vs 1920x1080] I end up with a desktop where my icons/panels arent proportionally aligned + a 'wallpaper on wallpaper' effect
[16:59] <Nobgul> !question | jigg
[16:59] <Alain_> OmegaForte:  I just unchecked everything in the visual effect compiz interface
[16:59] <jigg> pls have a look http://minus.com/mbe2Xw3
[16:59] <Omega> me-1: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/why-is-it-free
[16:59] <dr_willis> induz,  if unetbootin is not wirking. the Pendrivelinux web site has a dozen+ other tools to try. Be sure the md5sum for your iso is correct
[16:59] <OmegaForte> me-1,  It's free. That's how it is. Free like all software should be.
[16:59] <girlygirl> Alain_: run unity-shell
[17:00] <wols> me-1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Software   Ubuntu is Free software and you can get it legally for free all over the world. You only need to download it.
[17:00] <KPG_> Is it possible to set up a VPN using tinc on an Ubuntu machine and then ssh into it from another machine outside of the machine's local network?
[17:01] <Alain_> girlygirl:  now I cant open the terminal again
[17:01] <me-1> OmegaForte, its amazing but i wonder how Canonical generates revenue by making a free OS
[17:01] <girlygirl> Alain_:  run the textfile again
[17:01] <me-1> wols,  I will must download and install it
[17:01] <devatwork> Hey guys, i bought a new pc and am running ubuntu 11.04. Whenever i open an app, the hard drive kicks in full (Read), and then after a few seconds app opens. The hdd is 7200rpm sata6. Why is it so slow ?
[17:01] <girlygirl> me-1: #ubuntu-offtopic for such discussions
[17:01] <Alain_> girlygirl:  I did, but the unity-shell command did not work
[17:01] <milen8204> any ideas what means the massage: the file is possibly corrupt the file header checksum does not match the computed checksum
[17:02] <Alain_> girlygirl:  it said invalid command
[17:02] <me-1> girlygirl,  as you command miss
[17:02] <wols> devatwork: hdparm -tT /dev/sda
[17:02] <girlygirl> Alain_: let me get back on you for the command
[17:02] <Alain_> ok
[17:02] <Alain_> girlygirl:  ok thanks
[17:02] <wols> Alain_: ctrl+alt+t should open a terminal
[17:03] <devatwork> wols,
[17:03] <devatwork> Timing cached reads:   23520 MB in  2.00 seconds = 11775.74 MB/sec
[17:03] <devatwork>  Timing buffered disk reads: 350 MB in  3.01 seconds = 116.13 MB/sec
[17:03] <girlygirl> What is the command that launches unity shell, like plasma is plasma-desktop and gnome 3, gnome-shell
[17:03] <OmegaForte> Alain_, So, you didn't actually Disable compiz. Ctrl+alt+T, compiz --replace | ccsm | enable basics. sudo apt-get install fusion-icon, rightclick, reload window manager.
[17:03] <wols> girlygirl: if you run unity by default, check /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager (via ls -l)
[17:03] <SexyBoBo> ok each time i boot ubuntu i have to fsck to boot it and it always has several errors. Drive is shot right?
[17:03] <OmegaForte> SexyBoBo, What's it outputting?
[17:04] <girlygirl> wols: I do not
[17:04] <wols> SexyBoBo: do you access it outside of ubuntu? e.g via ext2 driver on windows?
[17:04] <devatwork> wols, so is my hdd the bottleneck ?
[17:04] <girlygirl> wols: want to know the command
[17:04] <SexyBoBo> been loading it trhough a slax bootable drive I can access it as long as i run fsck first
[17:04] <drake01> milen8204, Possibly the file could not be downloaded successfully. checksum is a way to associate a unique id to any file based on a good enough algorithm. The bottom line is: Its always good to download a file again if checksum of original does not match that of downloaded one.
[17:04] <desss> OmegaForte: could you help me with dual monitors, what manpage should I referr to?
[17:05] <ziikutv> How do I add widgets ?
[17:05] <girlygirl> Alain_: try running "unity"
[17:05] <OmegaForte> desss, I'm not sure, since you're using two adapters. Might wanna look here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1235034
[17:06] <ThinkT510> SexyBoBo: slax is practically dead why are you running it?
[17:06] <ziikutv> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/07/takeoff-launcher-adds-mac-launchpadslingshot-launcher-kde/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+%28OMG%21+Ubuntu%21%29&utm_content=FaceBook  How do I do this step "Takeoff can be added to your desktop via ‘Add Wigets > takeoff‘.
[17:06] <ziikutv> "
[17:06] <OmegaForte> ThinkT510, Slax is AWESOME!
[17:06] <desss> OmegaForte: thank you I will check that
[17:06] <SexyBoBo> had it on a thumbdrive and couldn't boot to ubuntu
[17:06] <ziikutv> OmegaForte: How do I do this step on ubuntu "Takeoff can be added to your desktop via ‘Add Wigets > takeoff‘."
[17:07] <dr_willis> ziikutv,  You could use gdesklets, or the google widgits, or opera and its widgits.. or check the package manager for other desktop widgits that i may have overlooked...
[17:07] <OmegaForte> ziikutv, You need a widget manager compatible with your Window manager. If you're using unity, I can't help you. KDE. gnome and Xfce, I can.
[17:07] <dr_willis> ziikutv,  sounds like its referng to 'kde' in your  add widgits> thing'
[17:07] <Alain_> girlygirl: I accidently had to reboot
[17:07] <ziikutv> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/07/takeoff-launcher-adds-mac-launchpadslingshot-launcher-kde/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+%28OMG%21+Ubuntu%21%29&utm_content=FaceBooe
[17:07] <ziikutv> dr_willis: so how do i do this? the link i posted
[17:07] <girlygirl> Alain_: Does it work now
[17:07] <dr_willis> ziikutv,  notice the 'kde' in the url. :) its for kde..
[17:07] <Taymon> I have a TAR archive in the form of a bunch of tar-chunk.<number> files. Can I open it in Archive Manager?
[17:07] <mandrake> I'm trying to upgrade an older ubuntu server running 8.10 to something more modern, but unfortunately the do-release-upgrade process isn't working for me.  I'd like some help, but am happy to take my query to another place if it's more appropriate.
[17:07] <ziikutv> so ubuntu is gnome?
[17:08] <dr_willis> ziikutv,  you could go use kde i guess.. its very nice.
[17:08] <Alain_> girlygirl:  no. I had to run the file again to move my windows
[17:08] <dr_willis> Kubuntu = kde. ubuntu = gnome
[17:08] <ThinkT510> !eol | mandrake
[17:08] <OmegaForte> ziikutv, Ubuntu used to run gnome, now it runs unity. Unity sucks.
[17:08] <ziikutv> so I cant install this?
[17:08] <ziikutv> i have ubuntu 11
[17:08] <dr_willis> ziikutv,  if you were using the KDE desktop.. you could
[17:08] <OmegaForte> ziikutv, You'll have to use gnome, or KDE.
[17:08] <ziikutv> how do i know wha tim using
[17:08] <dr_willis> ziikutv,  install the kubuntu-desktop package. about 400mb download.
[17:08] <girlygirl> Alain_: "sudo apt-get install fusion-icon"
[17:09] <ziikutv> hmm so currently im on unity?
[17:09] <dr_willis> ziikutv,  the login screen has a menu that you change desktops from..
[17:09] <dr_willis> !unity
[17:09] <mandrake> ThinkT510: yes, I've already tried this method, but it doesn't seem to actually retrieve the jaunty.tar.gz file properly.
[17:09] <ziikutv> hmm i like unity better
[17:09] <OmegaForte> ziikutv, Well just log out, select your user, look at the bottom of the screen, and choose Ubuntu classic in the user interface list.
[17:09] <ziikutv> i like the curent interface tho
[17:10] <OmegaForte> ziikutv,  Most people who run linux as their main OS tend to hate unity. It took away alot of the useability of the operating system. But to each their own I guess.
[17:10] <dr_willis> ziikutv,  then you find some other  widgits to play with i guess.
[17:10] <Alain_> girlygirl:  what next?
[17:10] <ziikutv> thanks
[17:10] <mandrake> ThinkT510: http://paste.ubuntu.com/655753/
[17:10] <OmegaForte> Alain_, So, you didn't actually Disable compiz. Ctrl+alt+T, compiz --replace | ccsm | enable basics. sudo apt-get install fusion-icon, rightclick, reload window manager.
[17:10] <dr_willis> the whole 'widgit/applets on the desktop'   thing seems to have been a passing fad. :)
[17:10] <OmegaForte> Repost
[17:10] <ThinkT510> mandrake: jauny is also eol, i think it may be easier for you to do a fresh install
[17:11] <girlygirl> Alain_: run fusion-icon
[17:11] <milen8204> drake01, Thanks but I tried to reinstall my OS and it crashes every time
[17:11] <mandrake> I'd prefer not if possible, I have quite a lot set up here.
[17:11] <milen8204> what should I do ?\
[17:11] <Alain_> girlygirl: OmegaForte: Where is the icon?
[17:11] <OmegaForte> Alain_, You have to run it from Alt-F2 or from Applications, system
[17:11] <girlygirl> Alain_: done?
[17:12] <girlygirl> Alain_: The icon is in the system tray (don't know what gnome calls it
[17:12] <drake01> milen8204, Did you download iso and burned it on usb or compactdisk and then installing or Did you get already prepared disk.
[17:12] <OmegaForte> girlygirl, It's called Notification Area.
[17:12] <girlygirl> Alain_: Like the xp taskbar part that gives balloon popups
[17:12] <Alain_> OmegaForte:  alt+f2 does not work. girlygirl: I dont have the system tray  :(
[17:12] <girlygirl> Alain_: Notification Area Thanks OmegaForte
[17:13] <OmegaForte> Alain_, Okay, Ctrl-alt-t
[17:13] <OmegaForte> Alain_, Just run it from there.
[17:13] <girlygirl> Alain_: Control + ALT + T
[17:13] <girlygirl> Alain_: terminal should show
[17:13] <Alain_> OmegaForte:  girlygirl: what do I write in the terminal?
[17:13] <OmegaForte> Alain_, Pick one of us. I'm getting confused.
[17:14] <girlygirl> fusion-icon
[17:14] <girlygirl> Alain_: fusion-icon
[17:14] <Taymon> Can anyone hear me? I think there might be something wrong with my client.
[17:14] <Alain_> girlygirl:  now 75% of my screen is grey, nothing else happened
[17:15] <OmegaForte> Taymon, No, kinda can't hear text homie.
[17:15] <tyler_d> I'm trying to upgrade using a ppa but using sudo add-apt-repositor then apt-get update does not show in the list? am I missing something?
[17:16] <icewaterman> is there still a gtk1 version for natty?
[17:16] <Alain_> girlygirl:  what do you think?
[17:16] <milen8204> drake01, How to burn the iso on USB
[17:16] <girlygirl> Alain_: I have a solution unistall compiz get back to default then instal compiz and set up
[17:17] <girlygirl> Alain_: actually OmegaForte 's suggestion
[17:17] <Alain_> girlygirl:  ok. How do we do this?
[17:17] <thefinn93> Tyler__, it's apt-add-repository not add-apt-repository
[17:17] <girlygirl> Alain_: restart in failsafe mode
[17:17] <girlygirl> Alain_: drop to root shell prompt
[17:18] <drake01> I think I didn't get your problem. Could u please rephrase the issue you are having?
[17:18] <drake01> milen8204,  I think I didn't get your problem. Could u please rephrase the issue you are having?
[17:18] <girlygirl> Alain_: done?
[17:19] <Grav> Sometimes flash videos on web are visible on all windows and desktop. Is there a way to fix it? I mean every black color displayed is turned into transparent and it's showing some flash video. Even if the video was closed.
[17:19] <tyler_d> thefinn93: either works
[17:19] <Alain_> girlygirl:  hmm. how do I get into failsafe mode and root shell prompt? :/
[17:19] <destinydriven> I need some clarification on this: here is a line from my /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch  0:DIS: :Pwr:0000:01:00.0
[17:19] <destinydriven>  . Does this mean that this card is still powered on?
[17:19] <tyler_d> thefinn93: however tried that as well and still doesn't show
[17:19] <milen8204> drake01,  I shut down my computer and in the morning it coulden`t start
[17:19] <girlygirl> Alain_: at grub select recovery mode
[17:19] <milen8204> and the massage : "the file is possibly corrupt the file header checksum does not match the computed checksum" appeared
[17:20] <Alain_> girlygirl: isnt it just as easy to reinstall ubuntu at this point?
[17:20] <ThinkT510> Grav: using nvidia?
[17:20] <girlygirl> Alain_:  no its a simple fix
[17:20] <Grav> ThinkT510: yes
[17:20] <root_____> hello
[17:20] <Alain_> girlygirl:  where do I find grub?
[17:20] <girlygirl> Alain_: or in terminal ctrl ALT + T
[17:21] <drake01> milen8204,  Ok, so how did you install ubuntu again? What did you use to install it?
[17:21] <ThinkT510> Grav: what version of ubuntu, what version of nvidia?
[17:21] <girlygirl> Alain_: type sudo apt-get purge compiz
[17:21] <girlygirl> Alain_: you follow me
[17:21] <milen8204> drake01, I didnt install it again I just tried but it crashes every time
[17:21] <Alain_> girlygirl:  now the grey screen cover the text file and I cant get into terminal :(
[17:22] <girlygirl> Alain_:  CTRL + ALT + T, then sudo apt-get purge compiz
[17:22] <Alain_> girlygirl:  terminal doesnt work
[17:22] <milen8204> I tried to install I had a disk and use the disk
[17:22] <girlygirl> Alain_: when you boot ubuntu do you see a place labeled Ubuntu Linux XX kernel
[17:22] <Grav> ThinkT510: Ubuntu 10.10 32bit,  Nvidia Driver verison 260.19.06
[17:23] <ThinkT510> Grav: any updates in the update manager?
[17:23] <Alain_> girlygirl: tell me how to make that file so I can access terminal?
[17:23] <ThinkT510> Grav: what version of flash too?
[17:24] <drake01> milen8204, ok when you try to install, it crashes with the message that file is corrupt and checksum does not match....  Another ques, what did you use while trying to install ubuntu again?
[17:25] <Alain_> why cant ubuntu make a highest performance setting. This is hell!
[17:25] <Grav> ThinkT510:  How do i check flash version?
[17:25] <Alain_> girlygirl:  what do I do now? Things are only worse now
[17:25] <io> !version | Grav
[17:25] <milen8204> drake01, CD whit Ubuntu
[17:25] <milen8204> 10.10 i think
[17:25] <ThinkT510> Grav: i suppose you could check the plugin in what browser you use
[17:26] <girlygirl> Alain_:  Reboot while pressing ESC. Then you will can an option Select ubuntu recovery mode, then select drop to root shell, the login, then type "apt-get purge compiz", then type "init 6" it will reboot, . everything should be fine, if it isn't run my textfile and it will work
[17:26] <alex--> I can't connect to my router, when it's connecting it says after some time: offline
[17:26] <Alain_> girlygirl:  i need to write that down. 2 sec
[17:27] <drake01> milen8204, It seems the some of cd's files are corrupt. So, If you have access to good enough internet, I would suggest you to download the ubuntu iso from ubuntu.com? If you don't then reply so again
[17:27] <bailey_> ok who r u
[17:28] <OmegaForte> bailey_, Who is what how?
[17:28] <alex--> I can't connect to my router, when it's connecting it says after some time: offline. How to fix this?
[17:28] <zykotick9> Grav, http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[17:28] <girlygirl> bailey_: WHat do you mean who are you
[17:28] <Alain_> girlygirl: ok. I will try thart
[17:28] <OmegaForte> alex--, Are you able to configure eth0?
[17:28] <alex--> OmegaForte: i dont know
[17:28] <Grav> ThinkT510, zykotick9:  Flash version 10,3,181,14  ?
[17:29] <bailey_> who r u people i just randomly click on this so who r u guys
[17:29] <bailey_> and what r we supose to do
[17:29] <OmegaForte> alex--, Okay. Left click on the network icon in your notification area, and see if you have any connections.
[17:29] <drake01> milen8204, You may try gettin another cd also, if you can.
[17:29] <rww> bailey_: #ubuntu is the technical support channel for Ubuntu Linux.
[17:29] <alex--> i see my network in the list OmegaForte
[17:29] <OmegaForte> bailey_, This is the Ubuntu help IRC channel. If you're here, and running ubuntu/Debian, we can help you.
[17:29] <rww> OmegaForte: no, Ubuntu. #debian is for Debian help.
[17:29] <ikonia> only ubuntu
[17:29] <ikonia> not ubuntu debian
[17:29] <OmegaForte> alex--, Okay, connect to it, (wifi I'm assuming) and configure the information.
[17:30] <ThinkT510> Grav: you made sure you're fully updated via the update manager?
[17:30] <OmegaForte> rww, I know enough raw debian to help with that too.
[17:30] <Grav> ThinkT510: There are updates for system too but i don't like them, they tend to break everything:/
[17:30] <rww> OmegaForte: feel free to do so in the correct channel, then :P
[17:30] <alex--> OmegaForte: when i connect the icon goes up and down up and down, and after some time it says: Disconnected
[17:30] <ThinkT510> Grav: what updates are listed?
[17:30] <ThinkT510> Grav: updates are designed to fix things
[17:31] <ThinkT510> Grav: can you see a flash or nvidia update in the update manager list?
[17:32] <Alain_> girlygirl:  that did not work. I did not get any options. it jsut booted
[17:32] <induz> I have a USB that is formated as  FAT type...I have an iso iamge of a linux How can i burn that ISO to the usb and make the linux bootbale
[17:32] <girlygirl> Alain_:  1 sec
[17:32] <Rafase282> hello
[17:32] <Grav> ThinkT510: So many time i have installed updates  to find next day that i can't login, something is not working, gnome is missing or some other crazy things. And it takes more and more space everytime. I'm using flashaid for firefox to update flash. Flash from updates never worked ok.
[17:32] <alex--> OmegaForte: now it's disconnected
[17:32] <girlygirl> What is the key to show grub prompt if it auto boots?
[17:32] <ikonia> induz: you do'nt want to try booting from fat, put a linux file system on it
[17:32] <ikonia> !install | induz
[17:33] <ThinkT510> Grav: then i can't help you
[17:33] <Alain_> girlygirl:  one more chance and I am reinstalling this non user friendly system
[17:33] <ikonia> induz: that link will explain how to make a boot USB
[17:33] <OmegaForte> alex--, Are the drivers installed?
[17:33] <Grav> ThinkT510: Np i understand. I just thought there could be some setting to change.
[17:33] <alex--> OmegaForte: it did work when I was at another location
[17:34] <girlygirl> Alain_:  Follow this then retry my steps http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/show-the-grub-menu-by-default-on-ubuntu/
[17:34] <ThinkT510> Grav: the only thing i can suggest is to update to the latest flash
[17:34] <milen8204> drake01,  and then ..?
[17:34] <Alain_> girlygirl:  fuck this. Im going to the xbox and reinstalling this crap when I get home
[17:34] <Technicus> Hello . . . I am trying to get an HP Mini 1000 to recognize the built in wireless device, but am having troubles with it.  I was working until today.  The operating system is Ubuntu 11.04.  What are the proper trouble shooting procedures for repairing this issue?
[17:35] <StevenR> Technicus: has it worked previously with 11.04 ?
[17:35] <faizul> hello, any ubuntu members here ?
[17:35] <OmegaForte> faizul, No, we're all monkies.
[17:35] <girlygirl> Alain_: Its a simple problem actually, reinstall have patience, you will soon get used to ubuntu, we are all like that at fist
[17:36] <girlygirl> Alain_: Please use proper language though
[17:36] <ThinkT510> girlygirl: he left, but yeah, he needed patience
[17:36] <faizul> hello
[17:36] <rww> faizul: best to just ask your question and see if anyone responds
[17:37] <faizul> any ubuntu members can help me regarding planet.ubuntu.com using bzr ?
[17:37] <Alain_> girlygirl:  one more chance. give me that link again
[17:37] <girlygirl> Alain_: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/show-the-grub-menu-by-default-on-ubuntu/
[17:37] <girlygirl> ThinkT510: lol tested my patience, a quality that I fortunatelty have
[17:37] <induz> I have UNEbootin
[17:37] <girlygirl> Alain_: please wait let me correct that
[17:37] <rww> faizul: have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PlanetUbuntu ?
[17:37] <induz> how can I use UNEbootin to make my usb bootable with .iso file
[17:38] <faizul> rww, yes. but now im outside, need someone to help me
[17:38] <drake01> milen8204, You mean after downloading? You may burn the iso obtained on a removable usb or cd by following explained on http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[17:38] <faizul> rww, im not using my machine right now
[17:38] <destinydriven> I have 11.04 installed on hp pavilion dv7t-6100 and I want to totally disable radeon card cuz its draining battery. I have tried suggestions here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1803056 but it seems nothing has changed. Can someone point me in the right direction?
[17:38] <ikonia> induz: read the link ubottu gave you
[17:38] <girlygirl> Alain_: same 1st instructions but shift instead of ESC sorry my mistake
[17:38] <rww> faizul: You need to be using the machine that has your ssh key on it to do this.
[17:38] <induz> why my usb is not getting recognized by UNEbootin
[17:38] <lcb> hi. someone who understands 'sane', please help me on this. i keep getting "Plustek OpticSlim M12" as my scanner when what i have is a "Iriscan Express 2".  in  /etc/sane.d/gtxx.conf i have: usb 0x07b3 0x045f // override "plustek-opticslim-m12" //  firmware "/usr/share/sane/gt68xx/cism216.fw"
[17:39] <Alain_> girlygirl:  ok. will try
[17:39] <faizul> rww, yes i know, that is why im asking somebody to help me using his ssh keys
[17:39] <Grav> Ubuntu is fine I like it more than W7 too, only if it didn't crash as often a W98 and could play flash videos without problems:P
[17:39] <OmegaForte> Grav, What do you mean, crash...
[17:40] <rww> faizul: oh, I see. PM me the name you want, a link to the hackergotchi you want, and the syndication URL
[17:40] <milen8204> drake01, I will try but i don't think that is the CD problem
[17:40] <ThinkT510> Grav: if you don't trust the updates how do you expect it to work?
[17:42] <Grav> I was using updates for 2 years, and everytime i had to pray there would be no new problems after restart. So I stopped updating it few months ago.
[17:44] <ThinkT510> Grav: and now here you are with new problems
[17:44] <drake01> milen8204, Try to search for other solutions then.
[17:44] <gridbag> What package is -lXmu in?
[17:44] <destinydriven> in /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch can I change 1:IGD:+:Pwr:0000:00:02.0 to 1:IGD:+:Off:0000:00:02.0 to disable my radeon card?
[17:45] <zykotick9> gridbag, that "-lXmu" looks like parameters, more then a program/package
[17:45] <ikonia> that is a compiler trying to link agtainst a library
[17:46] <zykotick9> gridbag, but "apt-cache search lxmu" does give lxde as a result
[17:46] <Alain_> girlygirl:  did not work
[17:46] <mooperd> hello, I cant get xforwarding to work : (etherape:6979): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[17:46] <Alain_> girlygirl:  I did everything as stated, it uninstalled but did not work
[17:46] <OmegaForte> Alain_, I think I'll be handling this from here. Tell me exactly what is happening now.
[17:46] <mooperd> x11 appears to be running
[17:46] <zykotick9> mooperd, are you using "ssh -X host"?
[17:46] <girlygirl> Alain_: now ctrl + ALT + T metacity --replace
[17:46] <Grav>  ThinkT510: I had this problem months ago, but it only happens once in few weeks. it's not that serious i can just restart.
[17:46] <mooperd> zykotick9: yes
[17:47] <zykotick9> mooperd, is X forwarding configured on your ssh server?  and are you connecting from a gnu/linux client?
[17:47] <kamidi> Grav: Aren't you even curious if lates updates could fix your problem? :)
[17:47] <DDoS> i'm still in the streets, still not lovin' police
[17:47] <Alain_> girlygirl:  it only got worse. Give OmegaForte  a chance
[17:47] <Alain_> OmegaForte:  help me
[17:48] <Grav> OmegaForte: It fills 2GB memory fast and then freezes or chrashes. It happenens always no matter if i use swap or not
[17:48] <girlygirl> OmegaForte: you're up . I guess
[17:48] <Alain_> OmegaForte:  I have no start menu and no taskbar
[17:48] <mooperd> zykotick9: connecting from OSX (It usually just works) and X forwarding is allowed in ssh_config
[17:48] <ThinkT510> Grav: if i didn't update i would still be having the problem you have with flash and nvidia
[17:48] <alex--> !webmin
[17:48] <OmegaForte> Alain_, How did you break X?
[17:48] <induz> should yhe USB be formatted as w95 FAT32
[17:48] <mooperd> zykotick9: usually, it just works
[17:48] <zykotick9> mooperd, sorry can't help then.  (you need Xorg installed on OSX though)
[17:49] <induz> its getting recognized on Ubuntu but not on UNEtbootin
[17:49] <mooperd> ya, I have Xorg
[17:49] <Alain_> OmegaForte:  I installed Compiz to deactivate all visual effects. I unchecked every box possible in the compiz interface and it left me with a desktop with no buttons or bars
[17:49] <OmegaForte> Alain_, Tell me what you were doing when all this started happening.
[17:49] <Grav> kamidi: No way. It never happened for you that updates would break something or stop you from login to system for a day?
[17:50] <dr_willis> Alain_,  you mean you installed 'ccsm'  to tweak compiz settings.. You aparently turned off the 'window decorator' plugin :)
[17:50] <kamidi> Grav: Only when i've been using "bleeding edge" ppas. And of course, that is to be expected sometimes
[17:50] <Alain_> dr_willis:  true. but how do I get everything back to default?
[17:51] <OmegaForte> Alain_, In compiz, some functions have to be on, so you have a loaded window manager. You need to apt-get install compiz-fusion ccsm compiz-fusion-plugins; and go back into ccsm and enable the following. Place Windows window Decorators Move windows resize windows and all of the image renders.
[17:51] <kamidi> if you use only stable ppas and don't install any other software, you should be fine in most cases. there aren't any guarantees though
[17:51] <girlygirl> Alain_: http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/
[17:51] <Gasseus> How do I get into the grub boot menu?
[17:51] <Grav> kamidi: I don't think this should be expected:)
[17:51] <girlygirl> Alain_: all settings will go but
[17:51] <induz> please help me...how can i make this usb as bootable...its formatted as w95 FAT 32
[17:52] <dr_willis> Alain_,  run 'metacity --replace' to get  a useable desktop for starters
[17:52] <kamidi> Grav: i mean if you're using some "bleeding edge" stuff, it is common that those might include updates which causes probelms
[17:52] <stephenmac7> Hello, I just got an Acer Aspire 5253-BZ602 (Uses AMD APU) and it seems that Ubuntu does not recognise the internal microphone.
[17:52] <girlygirl> induz: what do you want to boot on it
[17:52] <ikonia> induz: I have told you the issues
[17:52] <ikonia> induz: please read the link ubottu sent you, and don't use fat
[17:52] <induz> I used diskUtilities to format the USB
[17:52] <dr_willis> induz,  i doubt if the 'format' is the issue.. its how the tools are putting the ISO on the usb
[17:52] <induz> they told me to use FAT 32
[17:52] <ikonia> induz: who is they ?
[17:52] <girlygirl> induz: ubuntu live?
[17:52] <Alain_> ok, one at a time. OmegaForte  first
[17:52] <Alain_> OmegaForte:  I will try that
[17:52] <OmegaForte> Alain_, In compiz, some functions have to be on, so you have a loaded window manager. You need to apt-get install compiz-fusion ccsm compiz-fusion-plugins; and go back into ccsm and enable the following. Place Windows window Decorators Move windows resize windows and all of the image renders.
[17:53] <induz> yes I want to make a USB live
[17:53] <stephenmac7> So, it seems that lots of people have had issues with it
[17:53] <dr_willis> induz,  since it was not a Ubuntu ISO. YOu should  check that disrtos homepage. You may  be able to just 'dd' the iso to the flash drive to make a bootable flash.
[17:53] <ikonia> induz: who is they ?
[17:53] <argos-void> i have the iso image of ubuntu 64 bits version: i can write it to a pendrive with dd?
[17:53] <induz> on the forum
[17:53] <stephenmac7> In the Arch wiki it said that there were issues
[17:53] <dr_willis> argos-void,  no you can not.. dd does not work with ubuntu isos *yet*
[17:53] <ikonia> induz: what forum
[17:53] <induz> thsi forum
[17:53] <fmauro> hi all: has anyone tried installing ubuntu on the new sandy-bridge macbook-air models? I'm thinking about buying one, but only if it works smoothly (to some degree at least)
[17:53] <Grav> kamidi: right, those can cause problems.
[17:53] <stephenmac7> Also in the ubuntu wiki
[17:53] <argos-void> with arch worked *sigh*
[17:54] <dr_willis> argos-void,  use some of the tools from pendrivelinux, or the ubuntu live disk creator tool.
[17:54] <induz> I am new and learning so be patient
[17:54] <dr_willis> argos-void,  thats arch... not ubuntu.
[17:54] <Alain_> OmegaForte:  ok, the command worked. What now?
[17:54] <ikonia> induz: ok, so please use the link ubottu gave you
[17:54] <arch_is_awesome> So...
[17:54] <ikonia> induz: that has instructions on what to do
[17:54] <ikonia> !install > induz
[17:54] <ikonia> induz: ubottu has just re-pm'd you the link
[17:54] <arch_is_awesome> Anyone>
[17:54] <arch_is_awesome> *?
[17:54] <ikonia> arch_is_awesome: anyone what?
[17:54]  * argos-void thinks the same as arch_is_awesome 
[17:54] <arch_is_awesome> Know about the internal mic
[17:55] <arch_is_awesome> in the Acer Aspire line
[17:55] <arch_is_awesome> And why it is not recognized
[17:55] <OmegaForte> Alain_, Okay. Go into ccsm. Enable the following. Place windows, window decoration, ALL of the image render plugins, composite, gnome compatibility
[17:55] <zykotick9> arch_is_awesome, do you mean to be in #ubuntu?
[17:55] <induz> if u r just pointing me to the links from Ubuntu then what is the point of coming here and asking for help
[17:55] <rww> oh for pete's sake
[17:55] <arch_is_awesome> This isn't #ubuntu?
[17:56] <rww> zykotick9, ikonia: 17:52 < stephenmac7> Hello, I just got an Acer Aspire 5253-BZ602 (Uses AMD APU) and it seems that Ubuntu does not recognise the internal microphone.
[17:56] <argos-void> arch_is_awesome: yes
[17:56] <mrNotYou> arch_is_awesome: this is #ubuntu
[17:56] <rww> zykotick9, ikonia: then they nicked to arch_is_awesome.
[17:56] <desss> hi, can anyone help me to set up dual monitors in Ubuntu 11.04, I got these two video cards: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2582] (rev 04)
[17:56] <desss> 05:04.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro] [10de:002d] (rev 15)
[17:56] <ikonia> induz: because you are supposed to read them and follow the instructions, then if there is a problem ask for help
[17:56] <Alain_> OmegaForte:  Im getting picked up now. I dont have time. I dont have a usable desktop so I cant get into ccsm
[17:56] <Alain_> OmegaForte:  I have to go
[17:56] <Obfuscation> induz: because most people fail to google it first, which is far easier than sitting in IRC waiting for someone to have some time to help?
[17:56] <rww> zykotick9, ikonia: Note 1) the question being asked, 2) them specifically mentioning Ubuntu
[17:56] <ikonia> induz: people have written those instructions for you to use
[17:56] <ChesterX> hi, i got a western keybord (qwertz) and would like to write chinese caracters with it (basically write in ping yin and get automatically converted). What do I have to install/look for to enable it?
[17:56] <Alain_> OmegaForte:  I will just reinstall ubunti
[17:56] <OmegaForte> Alain_,  Yeah, that'll be faster
[17:56] <argos-void> ubuntu*
[17:56] <xangua> ChesterX: on keyboard preferences
[17:57] <induz> I googled and tried to make this USB with DISKPART yestaerday but it failed so i came here for suggestions
[17:57] <arch_is_awesome> So, no one has any information on it?
[17:57] <girlygirl> OmegaForte: So reinstall then wink:
[17:57] <ikonia> induz: you don't need to google, I have given you a link detialing how to do it
[17:57] <mrNotYou> Arch_is_awesome: Sorry, I just joined the channel. What exactly is your question?
[17:57] <ikonia> induz: read the link ubottu gave you, it has instructions
[17:57] <induz> if I can just read and follow the instaructions, i dont need a college and teacher I might as well just read a book
[17:58] <arch_is_awesome> mrNotYou: I'm having issues with the internal mic on my Acer Aspire 5253-BZ602
[17:58] <ikonia> induz: ok, then we are done here
[17:58] <project> is there any backtrack channels
[17:58] <arch_is_awesome> mrNotYou: It seems that Ubuntu has no idea it's even there
[17:58] <ctmjr> read a book, what a concept
[17:58] <ikonia> project: #backtrack-linux
[17:58] <rww> project: #backtrack-linux
[17:58] <Obfuscation> induz: isn't that what happens more time then not in school? you read the chapters assigned?
[17:58] <arch_is_awesome> What's backtrack based on?
[17:58] <rww> project: and to answer the inevitable next question:
[17:58] <fmauro> bump: ubuntu on new sandybridge macbook air. has anyone got this setup already?
[17:58] <rww> !register | project
[17:58] <ChesterX> xangua, thank you. I saw that the ping yin is installed by default. I am also looking for japanese caracters (katagana, hiragana, kanji). How can I add those?
[17:59] <induz> how u r taking me granted for not reading the links
[17:59] <ikonia> induz: because you said you hadn't
[17:59] <arch_is_awesome> Oh... ubuntu
[17:59] <ikonia> or suggested you hadn't
[17:59] <mrNotYou> arch_is_awesome: Okay, go to Applications -> Sound + Video > Recording Level monitor
[17:59] <induz> I am reading it and trying to learn the steps
[17:59] <ikonia> induz: ok - so read the links, if there is a step you're not clear about, please ask
[17:59] <mrNotYou> arch_is_awesome: Im currently on my mac so the titles of menus might not be exactly as I tell them to you but they're somewhat the same
[18:00] <induz> the link says to format using Gparted...now gparted is asking me many types i dont know about theose version of fomat
[18:00] <arch_is_awesome> mrNotYou: I'm on unity and for some reason cannot find it
[18:00] <ikonia> induz: ext4
[18:00] <arch_is_awesome> mrNotYou: I see it
[18:01] <destinydriven> can someone help with switching off radeon card on hp pavilion dv7t. It has intel i915 which I wanna use and radeon 6770 which I wanna turn of totally
[18:01] <arch_is_awesome> There is one: Internal Analog Audio
[18:01] <mrNotYou> arch_is_awesome: Okay. Try to speak into your mic. It probably wont show anythign happening though right? Cause you said it wouldnt recognise it. But try again just to make sure before we proceed
[18:01] <arch_is_awesome> mrNotYou: Nothing.
[18:01] <arch_is_awesome> It has no idea that I'm speaking
[18:02] <fmauro> right, next topic then: Are there any ubuntu sparkleshare users around?
[18:02] <mrNotYou> arch_is_awesome: Okay. Is your volume adjusted btw? Right-click on the volume icon in the notification area and select open Volume Control.
[18:02] <arch_is_awesome> fmauro: Isn't that still in alpha?
[18:02] <induz> it says error reading the file system
[18:03] <induz> error creating File system
[18:03] <fmauro> arch_is_awesome: it very well may be. altough it's working nicely so far. my question is regarding the nautilus integration
[18:03] <ikonia> induz: what does ?
[18:03] <ikonia> induz: please try to be specific
[18:03] <mrNotYou> arch_is_awesome: Once you're there, make sure that the microphone sliders near are near the top and that the small microphone icon does not have a red cross on it
[18:03] <induz> /dev/sdg1 is mounted  disk Utilities
[18:03] <arch_is_awesome> Incoming is 100%
[18:03] <ikonia> induz: unmount it then
[18:03] <arch_is_awesome> Outgoing is all the way to the Right
[18:03] <ikonia> induz: close that application and unmount it if needed
[18:04] <destinydriven> ping
[18:04] <mrNotYou> arch_is_awesome: Does the mic icon have a red cross on it?
[18:04] <induz> is unmount =eject
[18:04] <ikonia> induz: that should work
[18:04] <arch_is_awesome> I'm in sound preferences and I don't see a mic with a red cross
[18:04] <arch_is_awesome> Then again, if I mute it I don't see it either
[18:05] <arch_is_awesome> By the way, I'm on a machine that the menu, etc. Are in spanish.
[18:05] <mrNotYou> Okay. Lets try something else then.
[18:05] <arch_is_awesome> Okay.... isn't there that CLI application called alsa-something
[18:06] <mrNotYou> Yes, when I had a problem with my volume people told me about this application called something like also, I'm not exactly sure how to operate it though
[18:06] <mrNotYou> Let's try something else
[18:06] <arch_is_awesome> alsamixer
[18:06] <arch_is_awesome> Okay.
[18:06] <mrNotYou> In the volume control panel, go to Edit -> Preferences
[18:06] <mrNotYou> Did you find that?
[18:06] <girlygirl> I I compile the kernel myself enabling only what I need while configuring, would there be any perfomance benefit?
[18:07] <arch_is_awesome> Nope.
[18:07] <mrNotYou> What did you not find?
[18:07] <arch_is_awesome> I've got (in sound preferences) a bunch of tabs
[18:07] <arch_is_awesome> not edit menu
[18:07] <arch_is_awesome> *no
[18:07] <mrNotYou> Isn't the Volume Control panel different from the Sound Preferences one?
[18:07] <ikonia> girlygirl: no
[18:07] <th0r> girlygirl: you would see a small perf improvement. The big diff would be the size of the kernel
[18:08] <arch_is_awesome> I don't seem to have a volume control panel
[18:08] <ikonia> girlygirl: you'd have no performance benifit and you'd lose community support
[18:08] <th0r> ikonia: not into benchmarks? <smile>
[18:08] <mrNotYou> sorry, as I've already told you I'm currently on my mac and i'm trying to remember how the things are
[18:08] <arch_is_awesome> Are you on Ubuntu 11.04?
[18:08] <girlygirl> ikonia: th0r , thanks
[18:08] <ikonia> th0r: ha
[18:08] <mrNotYou> Yes
[18:09] <balvinder25> hello all, ubuntu 10.04 is unable to detect ipod shuffle
[18:09] <balvinder25> need help
[18:09] <ikonia> balvinder25: did you read the links ubottu has given you 4 times ?
[18:09] <alex--_> i cant get my brother dcp-115c printer working
[18:09] <alex--_> i cant get my brother dcp-115c printer working
[18:09] <balvinder25> i have already read "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone"
[18:09] <balvinder25> but this didnt resolve
[18:09] <asher^> hello. im having an issue with cronjobs. i have 3 set on different users across 2 machines. only one is working. they are all in the format 0 1 * * * /path/to/script.sh All of the scripts when run manually work fine. does anyone know what could be causing the issues, or if there is an error log for this somewhere?
[18:09] <ikonia> !ipod
[18:09] <arch_is_awesome> Okay then...
[18:10] <ikonia> balvinder25: read the others
[18:10] <mrNotYou> arch_is_awesome: Okay, I've googled something for you. About the alsamixer. Go in the console and type "alsamixer"
[18:10] <arch_is_awesome> Did already and got...
[18:10] <mrNotYou> Then make sure that the Mic option is high/max
[18:10] <balvinder25> chee thanks
[18:10] <arch_is_awesome> only one option
[18:10] <arch_is_awesome> S/PDIF
[18:11] <arch_is_awesome> No mic option
[18:11] <arch_is_awesome> S/PDIF was at '0'
[18:11] <mrNotYou> Only one option?
[18:11] <arch_is_awesome> Yup
[18:11] <mrNotYou> That can't be right
[18:11] <arch_is_awesome> But the speakers work...
[18:11] <mattalexx> I'm trying to use the gconftool-2 to set Gnome's font to "Sans 12" from a script. I'm following this: http://library.gnome.org/admin/system-admin-guide/stable/gconf-9.html.en
[18:11] <mrNotYou> What about the Master etc?
[18:11] <arch_is_awesome> Nope, none
[18:11] <mattalexx> Can someone please take a look at my command and error? http://pastebin.com/sLmnVavt
[18:13] <mrNotYou> That's strange. Maybe there's something wrong with your sound card. Unfortunately I'm not familiar with sound card configuration but we can try one more thing just to make sure we've exhausted our options
[18:13] <arch_is_awesome> I pushed F6 and got two options for the speakers to configure. I pushed the second (the internal speakers, not the HDMI)
[18:13] <mrNotYou> Go again in Sound Preferences and tell me the options it has
[18:13] <arch_is_awesome> I then got: 'Master', 'PCM', and 'Beep'
[18:13] <arch_is_awesome> Okay, I will.
[18:14] <rww> mattalexx: try prepending sudo to that command
[18:14] <rww> mattalexx: (sudo gconftool-2...)
[18:14] <arch_is_awesome> (I'm translating into english so it may not be perfectly the same)
[18:14] <arch_is_awesome> Sound Effects
[18:15] <arch_is_awesome> Hardware
[18:15] <arch_is_awesome> Entrance/Incoming
[18:15] <arch_is_awesome> Exit/Outgoing
[18:15] <arch_is_awesome> Applications
[18:15] <mrNotYou> Do you have 2 main tabs? Devices and Sounds?
[18:15] <arch_is_awesome> No, I have only those tabs
[18:16] <mrNotYou> Nothing about Devices?
[18:16] <arch_is_awesome> Hardware?
[18:16] <mrNotYou> Maybe it's that
[18:16] <project>  i am getting problems with opencv
[18:16] <mrNotYou> Yes, go on that and tell me what it says
[18:16] <project> how to configure opencv in ubuntu
[18:16] <arch_is_awesome> Internal Audio
[18:16] <mattalexx> rww, Hm, I did that and it worked. Thanks. But why would I need to become root to change my own settings?
[18:16] <arch_is_awesome> 1 Enterance/1 Exit
[18:17] <rww> mattalexx: that command doesn't change your own settings, it changes the systemwide settings
[18:17] <arch_is_awesome> Something Analog
[18:17] <arch_is_awesome> Duplex
[18:17] <mrNotYou> Does it say anything about maybe Sound Capture?
[18:17] <rww> mattalexx: (that's what the --config-source option does)
[18:17] <arch_is_awesome> That's incoming
[18:17] <arch_is_awesome> The tab:
[18:17] <Prejudice> Any able to help me fix a boot problem I have?
[18:17] <mattalexx> rww, Oh, I see.
[18:17] <mrNotYou> The incoming, does it allow you to choose something?
[18:17] <mrNotYou> Does it have an ALSA option?
[18:18] <arch_is_awesome> Only one option
[18:18] <arch_is_awesome> Internal Audio
[18:18] <mrNotYou> Oh
[18:18] <mrNotYou> Then I'm afraid I don't know any other ways to assist you, sorry
[18:18] <arch_is_awesome> One second...
[18:19] <mrNotYou> But I believe that there may be a problem with the way your sound card has been configured, perhaps you could re-configure it but unfortunately I don't know how to help you with that.
[18:19] <rww> arch_is_awesome: can you use the return key less, please? In #ubuntu, we try to keep things on fewer lines because the channel's busy :)
[18:19] <mattalexx> rww, What would be the version of that command to change just my settings?
[18:19] <arch_is_awesome> Okay then, rww. I have a screenshot of it: http://i.imgur.com/WHDzc.png
[18:19] <arch_is_awesome> (Sorry, it's in spanish)
[18:20] <rww> mattalexx: you ran that gconftool-2 command with sudo already, right?
[18:20] <Avinash_Sonawane>  First encounter with IRC. I am in great need of IRC commands and everything about IRC. Please help.
[18:21] <rww> mattalexx: (if so, you'll need to unset it first, hence me asking)
[18:21] <mrNotYou> arch_is_Awesome: i'm sorry I don't know what else I can suggest
[18:21] <djskidd> They say tonight, the Linux Penguin Fairy comes around
[18:21] <aaas> anyone ever get great speeds and resolution using vnc to control another comptuer (e.g. headless server)?
[18:21] <mattalexx> rww, Yes, I have.
[18:21] <mattalexx> rwn Found it: gconftool-2 --set /apps/nautilus/preferences/desktop_font --type string "Sans 8"
[18:21] <mrNotYou> Avinash_Sonawane: Although we'd like to help you tThis isn't really the place to find out more about IRC
[18:21] <arch_is_awesome> Avinash_Sonawane: This should help: http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html
[18:21] <unomi> erm.. how can I resize a window with alt+rightdrag ?
[18:22] <Rafase282> can anyone help me with some usb problem?
[18:22] <aaas> mattalexx: what kind of resolution?
[18:22] <djskidd> If you were good, you may find a new Ubuntu or Debian disc under your pillow
[18:22] <unomi> I just get the window menu
[18:22] <mrNotYou> Avinash_Sonawane: Perhaps you could ask in #freenode
[18:22] <Prejudice> Not able to boot back into Windows 7 after installing Natty, any help?
[18:22] <Rafase282> I get this message when trying to safetly remove one
[18:22] <djskidd> If not, he installs Red Hat on your computer
[18:22] <unomi> Prejudice: you were already helped.
[18:22] <rww> mattalexx: okays, two steps. step one: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --unset /desktop/gnome/interface/font_name
[18:22] <Rafase282> http://pastebin.com/33RV8qBc
[18:22] <Prejudice> unomi: I was?
[18:22] <Prejudice> o_O
[18:23] <unomi> Prejudice: if you can't boot into windows, sure ;)
[18:23] <drake01> Hey Guys, Please have a look at this blog-post of mine about ubuntu n comment: http://xperiencegnulinux.blogspot.com/2011/07/manage-ubuntu-without-active-internet.html
[18:23] <arch_is_awesome> So, it seems that the whole computer has no idea the actual microphone is there
[18:23]  * unomi ducks
[18:23] <rww> mattalexx: step two: gconftool-2 --set /desktop/gnome/interface/font_name name "Sans 12"
[18:23] <Prejudice> haha
[18:23] <Prejudice> >_>
[18:23] <rww> mattalexx: sorry, step two: gconftool-2 --set /desktop/gnome/interface/font_name "Sans 12"
[18:23] <arch_is_awesome> :(
[18:23] <girlygirl> Prejudice: in terminal "sudo apt-get update-grub2"
[18:23] <unomi> Prejudice: on a more serious note - did you ensure to install Natty side by side - it didn't wipe your disk?
[18:23] <rww> drake01: Please don't advvertise in here.
[18:23] <mrNotYou> I'm sorry, arch_is_awesome :(
[18:24] <rww> girlygirl: that's not a valid command, perhaps you mean sudo update-grub?
[18:24] <Prejudice> unomi: Yeah its still here, I have it mounted
[18:24] <arch_is_awesome> The thing is, I'm setting this up for someone else who wants to use video chat.
[18:24] <arch_is_awesome> According to the Arch wiki it's a kernel issue
[18:25] <OmegaForte> arch_is_awesome, Have you tried skype for video chat?
[18:25] <girlygirl> rww: no on ubuntu karmic and latter you need the two, else it makes as if it works but does not
[18:25] <Prejudice> girlygirl: update takes no arguments
[18:25] <arch_is_awesome> That's what I'm trying to get working.
[18:25] <rww> girlygirl: that's incorrect
[18:25] <arch_is_awesome> The sound recorder does not work
[18:25] <OmegaForte> arch_is_awesome, Driver not working?
[18:25] <george_> rww, wait what does sudo update-grub do?
[18:25] <girlygirl> Prejudice: exact commands "sudo update-grub2"
[18:26] <arch_is_awesome> OmegaForte: I don't have a driver, seems to be a Kernel issue
[18:26] <mattalexx> rww, I got an error until I added a type: gconftool-2 --set /desktop/gnome/interface/font_name --type string "Sans 12"
[18:26] <OmegaForte> arch_is_awesome, Acer I think it was?
[18:26] <rww> george_: updates the GRUB configuration for your system
[18:26] <ikonia> girlygirl: you do not need the two
[18:26] <girlygirl> rww: Oh I put apt by mistake got it
[18:26] <unomi> Prejudice: I am a grub / loader noob, but you may want to try to install StartUp-Manager and see if you can modify it there
[18:26] <rww> mattalexx: ah, yes. forgot about that
[18:26] <rww> girlygirl: Yup. But still, update-grub works fine regardless of GRUB version :)
[18:26] <george_> rww, updates as in the what? if you edit the config files, isn't it already updated?
[18:26] <arch_is_awesome> OmegaForte: Acer
[18:26] <OmegaForte> arch_is_awesome, What's the model number?
[18:26] <unomi> Prejudice: what happens when you boot btw? It just boots straight to ubuntu or the menu item doesnt work o?
[18:27] <girlygirl> ikonia: rww : i could have sworn it malfunctioned sometimes
[18:27] <arch_is_awesome> OmegaForte: AS-5253-BZ602
[18:27] <ikonia> girlygirl: it doesn't
[18:27] <arch_is_awesome> The one with the AMD APU
[18:27] <OmegaForte> arch_is_awesome, I like you already. The right number, the right time.
[18:27] <arch_is_awesome> OmegaForte: I was looking at the sticker :)
[18:27] <rww> george_: There are two sets of configuration files for GRUB2 in Ubuntu. One of them is the actual GRUB2 configuration, which is generated by scripts and shouldn't be edited because edits will be overwritten periodically. The other lives in /etc/default/grub and somewhere else I forget and configures the aforementioned scripts.
[18:28] <Prejudice> I ran "sudo update-grub" but it couldn't find /boot/grub/menu.lst so I had it autogenerate one
[18:28] <destinydriven> hey guys, is it safe to do something like this? http://paste.debian.net/124698/
[18:28] <ikonia> destinydriven: that's not a command
[18:28] <unomi> Prejudice: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1657134
[18:28] <girlygirl> Prejudice: check if it works on reboot, it should, if it doesn't then try the 2
[18:29] <drake01> rww, Just thot the post would be helpful to people beginning with ubuntu.
[18:29] <LABcrab> Hey people!  i am REALLY having difficulties with Ubuntu!  Wwhen i use an USB Internet stick, it works on one laptop but not the other!  Can someone help me fix this please?
[18:29] <ikonia> Prejudice: do not
[18:29] <Prejudice> unomi: When I boot, I get 5 options: Ubuntu, Ubuntu(recovery), memtest, memtest(recovery), Windows 7
[18:29] <destinydriven> ikonia: how do I really turn of the discrete radeon graphics card
[18:29] <Prejudice> when I choose windows 7, it just loops back to grub
[18:29] <rww> drake01: Regardless, #ubuntu is for asking and answering technical support questions only :)
[18:29] <ikonia> destinydriven: what are you actually suggesting you do (what command)
[18:29] <Cerrdor> Something is going wrong, I right click an exe and choose to open it in wine and there is a window on the task bar says opening and then it closes and the program never runs
[18:30] <OmegaForte> Cerrdor, You're gonna have to go to the wine support form/channel for that.
[18:30] <destinydriven> ikonia: I'm not sure but it seems that Pwr means to power on the card in that file. I'm guessing off will turn it off at boot
[18:30] <Cerrdor> yupp they all died
[18:30] <OmegaForte> arch_is_awesome, I think that's the realtek 8128 audio chipset?
[18:30] <ikonia> destinydriven: ok
[18:30] <ikonia> destinydriven: that seems a reasonable assumption
[18:30] <unomi> Prejudice: check /boot/grub/grub.cfg and check if it is pointing to the right partition?
[18:30] <george_> rww, hmm slightly confusing why /etc/default/grub can't just be manually edited and why sudo update-grub needs to be run, but whatever I never make any changes to grub
[18:30] <Rafase282> can someone help me with usb flash drive problems?
[18:30] <arch_is_awesome> So...
[18:31] <chewey> OK, I'm out of ideas: My fathers machine is affected by https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/636311 despite running a brand new Natty and havong applied the updates from the PPA that's supposed to help ( https://edge.launchpad.net/~raof/+archive/aubergine )
[18:31] <destinydriven> ikonia: I'd also like to know how to blacklist the radeon card
[18:31] <chewey> Any other ideas?
[18:31] <girlygirl> Prejudice: If you have  win7 disk, you can boot it and select start up repair in recovery options, then boot windows, install an app called easybcd then use it to add entry for ubuntu
[18:31] <brickwall> Now I am a brick wall! Okay... so OmegaForte, any ideas?
[18:31] <rww> george_: /etc/default/grub can be maunally edited. That's the configuration file for the scripts that generate the configuration files for GRUB2.
[18:31] <ikonia> Prejudice: do not do that
[18:31] <chewey> FTR, the bug is "left mouse button is ignored".
[18:31] <OmegaForte> brickwall, I'm gonna see if you need a rebuild for a new driver.
[18:31] <ikonia> Prejudice: please digregard what girlygirl is telling you
[18:31] <brickwall> Thank you ;)
[18:31] <Prejudice> k
[18:32] <ikonia> Prejudice: if it's booting in a loop, there is either a problem with the windows partition, or your grub menu is looking at the wrong partition
[18:32] <mattalexx> What's a command that will reload all gnome settings?
[18:32] <rww> george_: The workflow is roughly as follows: 1) You edit /etc/default/grub 2) You run sudo update-grub 3) update-grub reads /etc/default/grub and also does autodetection of the OSes on the computer and a bunch of other stuff, 4) update-grub writes the actual GRUB2 configuration in /boot/
[18:32] <girlygirl> ikonia: why?
[18:33] <george_> alright quick question: how do admins get windows to allow logging in with any user account on the network and how would I go about doing that on linux?
[18:33] <Prejudice> I havent touched the partition since I installed ubuntu, and I can see all the files from ubuntu, so Id guess its looking in the wrong place
[18:33] <brickwall> george_: I'm pretty sure they use LDAP, but I may be wrong
[18:33] <fabiobik> Hi guys can someone help me? my website was hacked... http://gatinhamolhadinha.pt.vu/  what can i do? call police?
[18:33] <ikonia> girlygirl: do you really think the action to fix a grub error is to remove it as a boot loader, put easyboot loader on to boot windows and boot grub via another boot loader ?
[18:33] <george_> rww, alright, so update-grub is essentially reading your edited configurations and generating special grub files?
[18:33] <ikonia> fabiobik: that's not something we can help you with, this is buuntu support
[18:33] <rww> george_: Active Directory on Windows. For Ubuntu, see LDAP and kerberos.
[18:33] <przemo_rex> Hi people. I'm about to build a server for ip routing and data storage. I need to ask you what is the cheapest cpu that can be used with ddr3 memory
[18:33] <bipin> mattalexx, i would suggest to backup .gconf & .gnome and logout and login back
[18:33] <rww> george_: pretty much
[18:33] <fabiobik> ikonia well its on ubuntu server
[18:34] <girlygirl> ikonia: for me yes research it grub can break windows update when on mbr, vista sp1 wouldn't install for people because of that
[18:34] <ikonia> fabiobik: doesn't matter, it's nothing to do with this channel
[18:34] <Rafase282> how can I make a copy of a usb flash drive to another of bigger size?
[18:34] <ikonia> girlygirl: you are talking utter nosense
[18:34] <george_> rww, alright thanks for the explanation
[18:34] <ikonia> girlygirl: grub cannot and does not break windows updates
[18:35] <OmegaForte> brickwall, The driver set isn't supported. I'm trying to find a specific chip id for your audio, maybe there's a known workaround.
[18:35] <girlygirl> ikonia: update for bootloader happens rarely http://apcmag.com/vista_sp1_wont_install_on_dualboot_systems_microsoft.htm
[18:35] <george_> I've run dual boot before, grub never affected windows updates
[18:35] <ikonia> girlygirl: that is nosnense
[18:35] <brickwall> OmegaForte: Thank you so much!
[18:35] <unomi> przemo_rex: most likely VIAs Nano
[18:35] <unomi> przemo_rex: but are you sure you are asking the right question?
[18:35] <OmegaForte> brickwall, Do you have windows on it? If you can, send me a CPUZ text dump on pastebin.
[18:35] <TimmyT1> how to use xmpp/jabber to login into yahoo?
[18:36] <girlygirl> ikonia: please don't say I talk utter nonsense just experience google vista sp1 grub you wil get tons of results like that , I experienced it myself
[18:36] <Prejudice> paste of bootinfoscript: http://pastebin.com/6u6YSLTx
[18:36] <ikonia> girlygirl: I'm aware of it, and it is utter nonsense as an issue, it is simple to apply the windows mbr to resolve the issue and re-apply grub
[18:36] <przemo_rex> unomi: more precise: cpu is supposed to be i386, how about the via?
[18:37] <unomi> przemo_rex: I do hope you mean x86?
[18:37] <przemo_rex> unomi: yeap
[18:37] <unomi> in that case, yes the Nano is a x86 chip
[18:38] <girlygirl> girlygirl: until the next update when you need your "workarround" not fix anyway lets just drop it
[18:38] <OmegaForte> girlygirl, Talking to yourself again, eh?
[18:38] <ikonia> girlygirl: no, as it's bad advice
[18:38] <przemo_rex> unomi: is it posible to buy it in store?
[18:38] <brickwall> OmegaForte: Nope, deleted it yesterday :P
[18:38] <ikonia> girlygirl: putting easy boot cd will put that on the MBR and the vista update will fail with that
[18:38] <unomi> przemo_rex: depends on the store.
[18:38] <ikonia> girlygirl: the guy isn't even using vista, so suggesting easybootcd on this reason is nonsense
[18:39] <unomi> przemo_rex: VIA has pretty much been sidelined in the consumer market
[18:39] <OmegaForte> brickwall, Okay.  Lemme test something. Do you have wine installed?
[18:39] <brickwall> No. Want me to install it?
[18:39] <OmegaForte> brickwall, No, not yet.
[18:39] <unomi> przemo_rex: on the other hand, they have a fairly large following in the mini-itx / embedded market
[18:39] <brickwall> OmegaForte: Okay then.
[18:39] <cryptodira> i have just upgraded 10.10 to current..... in the process, i no longer have the ability to resize windows from any edge/corner..... there is now a grab icon in the lower right corner, but only on some windows.... how can i revert to the pre update behaviour??
[18:40] <OmegaForte> cryptodira, Do you run compiz?
[18:40] <przemo_rex> unomi: I'm searching for the price, no luck so far
[18:40] <Prejudice> Going to try a reboot now, after running sudo update-grub
[18:40] <Prejudice> Ill report in in a bit
[18:40] <OmegaForte> brickwall, Okay, if I vanish, I broke it.
[18:40] <cryptodira> OmegaForte, yes, some aspects of it.
[18:40] <OmegaForte> cryptodira, You may need to rebuild the conf for it. Just reconfigure your setings in the manager.
[18:40] <brickwall> OmegaForte: Broke what?
[18:41] <joepa> how do I get windows to appear on an external display in natty/unity? I'm dragging the window to the side of screen0 where screen1 is supposed to start, and instead of appearing on screen1, the window goes into full screen mode on screen0
[18:41] <joepa> ideas?
[18:41] <cryptodira> OmegaForte, roger that, i will give it a try..... Thank You!
[18:41] <OmegaForte> brickwall, I'm seeing of CPUz runs in wine. It shouldn't, but it's an idea.
[18:42] <brickwall> Oh, I see.
[18:42] <OmegaForte> brickwall, Well, just like I thought, it doesn't work.
[18:42] <unomi> przemo_rex: http://www.nettopreview.com/2011/05/zotac-to-launch-tiny-via-nano-x2-powered-nettop/ - you could try to contact zotac
[18:42] <brickwall> Okay then.
[18:42] <dr_willis> joepa:  you can disable that feature of compiz to tile the window when drug to the side.
[18:42] <Vinicius> hellpo
[18:42] <unomi> przemo_rex: are you looking for a full box or just a mobo + cpu combo?
[18:42] <brickwall> OmegaForte: By the way, thanks for the awesome support :D
[18:42] <cstrahan> Has anyone had success installing GNU Smalltalk on Ubuntu (11.04)? I've compiled v3.2.4 from source, but `gst-browser' is nowhere to be found...
[18:43] <dr_willis> joepa:  multi monitor support in unity is a little on the flakey side.  I dont even have a 2nd monitor now to test it out.
[18:43] <OmegaForte> brickwall, Uh, dmesg | grep -i audio
[18:43] <OmegaForte> brickwall, Tell me what you see.
[18:43] <unomi> http://hothardware.com/News/Zotac-Introduces-Nano-X2Powered-MiniPC-At-Computex/
[18:43] <unomi> this actually looks pretty sexy
[18:43] <OmegaForte> brickwall, I'm probably the only gunsmith Pc tech.
[18:43] <wsagent> is there any networkmonitoring application for ubuntu ?
[18:43] <unomi> oh if only it had 2 ethernet slots
[18:44] <brickwall> OmegaForte: No results
[18:44] <wsagent> is there any networkmonitoring application for ubuntu ?
[18:44] <brickwall> Like I said earlier, it's like it's not there.
[18:44] <brickwall> wsagent: Yes, system monitor
[18:44] <unomi> wsagent: you need to be more specific about what you are looking for
[18:45] <przemo_rex> unomi: mobo + cpu. support for at least 4 sata's, up to 8GB DDR3, you think that nano would do
[18:45] <unomi> wsagent: there are tons of network monitoring apps for linux
[18:45] <brickwall> For incoming and outgoing speeds there is that.
[18:45] <unomi> przemo_rex: I don't see any reason why not.
[18:45] <o0o0> wsagent: nethogs
[18:45] <OmegaForte> brickwall, gimme three to figure something out.
[18:45] <wsagent> unomi can you name some of them
[18:46] <unomi> przemo_rex: again though, are you asking the right question? Why do you want ddr3 specifically?
[18:46] <brickwall> OmegaForte: Okay. I just wanted to say that it's as if the mic isn't there.
[18:46] <wsagent> thanks o0o0
[18:46] <george_> rww, ldap and kerberos allow logging into any linux account within a network?
[18:46] <brickwall> george_: Yes, they do.
[18:46] <o0o0> np
[18:46] <LABcrab> Hello everyone!  i am experiencing lots of frustrating difficulties with Ubuntu!  One laptop lets me use a 3G Modem with no problem.  However, the other won't!  i have to do everything - restart the laptop, unplug the stick, replug the stick, uncheck and recheck "Activate network", killall nm-applet, put the laptop to sleep, and still won't work except one time only!  Help please!
[18:47] <george_> brickwall, alright, I'll take a look, thanks.
[18:47] <brickwall> LDAP seems to be the better choice
[18:48] <OmegaForte> brickwall, Try dmesg | grep -i snd
[18:48] <george_> brickwall, yeah cause I've seen how companies I've worked at allow you to log into any account you want from any computer in the network and I always wondered how it was done
[18:48] <brickwall> Right LDAP is a network directory
[18:49] <Crash03> dad
[18:49] <brickwall> Then you can also use thin clients which is a completely different deal.
[18:49] <OmegaForte> brickwall, OH BABY! Here's what you need to do, brick. lspci -v | less, and look for antyhing that's missing.
[18:49] <Crash03> what is the best linux to use with rallink usb wlan?
[18:49] <wsagent> unomi can you name some of them
[18:49] <unomi> wsagent: netstat
[18:50] <unomi> jnettop
[18:50] <george_> brickwall, another question you may know, is there anyway to use the mail command to send mail within the network, because it doesn't seem to be able to send e-mails to accounts on gmail
[18:50] <Crash03> do you know the web site i could download from
[18:50] <unomi> wsagent: and any of the plethora of packet sniffing programs that are out there
[18:50] <Sivik> anyone use mangler here?
[18:50] <Crash03> im new
[18:50] <Sivik> It should be the repos but it is not there.
[18:50] <brickwall> Send mail from inside the network to outside the network?
[18:51] <LABcrab> Hello everyone!  i am experiencing lots of frustrating difficulties with Ubuntu!  One laptop lets me use a 3G Modem with no problem.  However, the other won't!  i have to do everything - restart the laptop, unplug the stick, replug the stick, uncheck and recheck "Activate network", killall nm-applet, put the laptop to sleep, and still won't work except one time only!  Help please!
[18:51] <unomi> LABcrab: are you putting the stick in the right way up?
[18:51] <unomi> LABcrab: what do you see in dmesg when you plug it in?
[18:51] <Crash03> im new to linux and have rallink wlan usb what linux should i use that has th support for it
[18:52] <LABcrab> unomi: Not sure.  Let me debug.
[18:52] <OmegaForte> brickwall, run this command. lspci -v | grep -i snd
[18:52] <brickwall> OmegaForte: I got an audio device made by ATI
[18:52] <george_> Crash03, most should have it, I remember using Backtrack with an ralink wireless usb adapter for wep cracking
[18:52] <OmegaForte> brickwall, I need to see the actual name, so type it all out for me.
[18:53] <Crash03> every one i have tried dont work
[18:53] <Crash03> i have ubuntu install but running win 7 for internet
[18:53] <brickwall> OmegaForte: eduardo@Aspire-5253:~$ lspci -v | grep -i snd Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
[18:54] <brickwall> I put that into one line... now for the other one...
[18:54] <Crash03> and i dont know how to ompile a driver
[18:54] <OmegaForte> brickwall, You're running the HDA chipset from Realtek, just like me. You shouldn't be having an issue....
[18:54] <brickwall> One second...
[18:54] <LABcrab> unomi: PM
[18:55] <Crash03> some one tell me how to get ralink wlan usb working in ubuntu polease
[18:55] <brickwall> It's giving me two audio devices in lspci
[18:55] <brickwall> Then again, one could be the HDMI
[18:56] <OmegaForte> brickwall,
[18:56] <OmegaForte> brickwall, Run this. wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[18:56] <unknownhost> Hi, i get indicator with ! in triangle, and i can't update the pc because it is writen that W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/iaz/ppa/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[18:56] <unknownhost> how to solve that problem?
[18:56] <george_> is it possible to send mail to another computer on your network?
[18:57] <girlygirl_> Crash03:  See this article http://www.eracc.com/content/how-use-ndiswrapper
[18:57] <Crash03> yes
[18:57] <Captainkrtek> anyone know of a high level python audio library (beside pyaudiere)
[18:57] <girlygirl_> Crash03: 32 bit ubuntu or 64 bit ubuntu?
[18:57] <Captainkrtek> just go generate simple tones
[18:57] <Captainkrtek> to*
[18:58] <brickwall> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=3455e05fb7f42c786c34fc67204f4cb5093d2fa9
[18:58] <OmegaForte> brickwall, It sees the port, but doesn't see a mic.
[18:59] <Crash03> do i do this all in terminal
[18:59] <brickwall> Right, there is a port for it.
[18:59] <brickwall> But there is also an internal mic at the top next to the webcam
[18:59] <OmegaForte> brickwall,  That's probably part of the webcam itself.
[18:59] <K350> I've the memory card for my camer in the computer. But it doesn't mount. How do I find the device name so I can mount it my self?
[18:59] <brickwall> It's a little tiny whole next to the camera
[19:00] <OmegaForte> K350, System, Administration, Disk untility
[19:00] <OmegaForte> brickwall,  Yeah, It's probably part of the webcam's PCB. Part of the webcam.
[19:01] <brickwall> So, how do I get it cranking?
[19:01] <OmegaForte> brickwall, Do you see two devices for mics in pulse-config?
[19:01] <brickwall> No, I don't.
[19:01] <cockintopussy> hi
[19:01] <OmegaForte> brickwall,  Then likely, if it's part of the webcam, the driver is missing things; or isn't installed right.
[19:01] <cockintopussy> i need help
[19:01] <goddard> in 11.04 how can i install 64 bit flash?
[19:01] <OmegaForte> Can we get rid of that guy?
[19:01] <rww> cockintopussy: Your nick is not acceptable for this channel. Change it, please.
[19:01] <Crash03> girlygirl where do i get the wrapper
[19:01] <brickwall> OmegaForte: I didn't install a driver
[19:02] <OmegaForte> brickwall, Well, THERE'S YOUR PROBLEM!
[19:02] <OmegaForte> brickwall, Haha...Check out Jockey-gtk to see if it's listed.
[19:02] <Ryuguns> This is freenode, right?
[19:02] <brickwall> Nope, it's not.
[19:02] <rww> Ryuguns: yes
[19:02] <Ryuguns> lol Thanks
[19:02] <Ryuguns> :)
[19:02] <girlygirl_> Crash03: the ini from the windows driver package
[19:03] <cockintopussy> hello i have got a problem
[19:03] <cockintopussy> with unity
[19:03] <Ryuguns> ...
[19:03] <cockintopussy> rww: why
[19:03] <dijonyummy> what brand/model laptops can run ubuntu (10.10) with the least problems? anyone happy with their setup and dont mind recommending?
[19:03] <s1m0ne> right now i am into serious problems. All my settings reset themselves to their defaults. i could figure it out already for nautilus, vlc, minesweeper, clementine, and more   how can this be?  how can the settings disappear??!!
[19:03] <girlygirl_> Crash03:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[19:04] <OmegaForte> Nice bot, rww.
[19:04] <OmegaForte> rww,  Which one are you using?
[19:04] <rww> OmegaForte: Not sure what you mean?
[19:04] <OmegaForte> rww, You using a script to do that then?
[19:05] <rww> OmegaForte: I use autobleh for setting bans quickly, if that's what you're asking
[19:05] <OmegaForte> rww, Ah. Alright.
[19:05] <DASBHGHUJGBVGDUB> hello
[19:05] <wh1zz0> Hello everyone, please how do I increase the size of memory of my already installed VirtualBox
[19:05] <wh1zz0> ?
[19:05] <DASBHGHUJGBVGDUB> i have a problem
[19:05] <DASBHGHUJGBVGDUB> with unity
[19:05] <wh1zz0> Is it possible?
[19:06] <DASBHGHUJGBVGDUB> hope you can help me i ask to launch a launcher
[19:06] <brickwall> OmegaForte: So, there's a driver? The camera works fine.
[19:06] <DASBHGHUJGBVGDUB> if i click it it maximises
[19:06] <DASBHGHUJGBVGDUB> e
[19:06] <DASBHGHUJGBVGDUB> xD
[19:06] <s1m0ne> Ubuntu 10.10 64-bit GNOME: right now i am into serious problems. All my settings reset themselves to their defaults. i could figure it out already for nautilus, vlc, minesweeper, clementine, and more   how can this be?  how can the settings disappear??!!
[19:06] <rww> !enter | DASBHGHUJGBVGDUB
[19:06] <OmegaForte> brickwall, Then there's a driver installed. I don't have the device so I can't do the testing I'd need to get the info for it. Sorry homie. Next thing I can sugguest is going into hardware and seeing what's listed.
[19:06] <DASBHGHUJGBVGDUB> sorry
[19:06] <DASBHGHUJGBVGDUB> sorry
[19:06] <OmegaForte> brickwall,  In sound prefs.
[19:06] <girlygirl_> rww: DASBHGHUJGBVGDUB matches the one OmegaForte was just discussing about
[19:06] <girlygirl_> by ip
[19:06] <rww> girlygirl_: I'm aware.
[19:07] <DASBHGHUJGBVGDUB> no i have a other problem
[19:07] <goddard> how can i install 64bit flash?
[19:07] <eoss> anyone ever done a PXE OS install before? need help....
[19:07] <OmegaForte> girlygirl_, what was I just talking about....?
[19:07] <DASBHGHUJGBVGDUB> do not tell rubbish girlygirl_
[19:07] <DASBHGHUJGBVGDUB> well i have got a problem with unity can you help m,e
[19:08] <goddard> eoss yeah i have
[19:08] <DoeNietWil> Hello, i´m wondering if you can centre the titles of applications in ubuntu 11.04
[19:08] <DASBHGHUJGBVGDUB> well i have got a problem with unity can you help me
[19:08] <OmegaForte> DASBHGHUJGBVGDUB, I don't know much about unity, but I'll help as I can.
[19:08] <Guest16914> Hi!  Can someone help me with writing a .desktop file to autorun at startup to reassign CapsLock as another Control button?
[19:08] <DASBHGHUJGBVGDUB> okay super
[19:09] <rww> Guest16914: which desktop environment are you using?
[19:09] <Guest16914> LXDE
[19:09] <DASBHGHUJGBVGDUB> first
[19:09] <DASBHGHUJGBVGDUB> i hate this shi*
[19:09] <ikonia> DASBHGHUJGBVGDUB: control your language
[19:09] <DASBHGHUJGBVGDUB> but if i maximise windows with desktop wall and compiz
[19:09] <DASBHGHUJGBVGDUB> they change their workspace
[19:09] <rww> Guest16914: ah, never mind, then. was wondering if it was KDE or GNOME as they have easier ways of doing that :|
[19:09] <fairuz> Change to ubuntu classic then
[19:09] <auronandace> !classic | DASBHGHUJGBVGDUB
[19:09] <OmegaForte> DASBHGHUJGBVGDUB, Right. Watch this. Log out, look down after you select your username, choose "Ubuntu classic" in the list.
[19:09] <OmegaForte> DASBHGHUJGBVGDUB, Right. Watch this. Log out, look down after you select your username, choose "Ubuntu classic" in the list.
[19:10] <Guest16914> Yeah, I wouldn't be writing one if it was KDE or GNOME.
[19:10] <Teltaria1> Hello.  A while back, I added a Gnome 3 repo and upgraded to Gnome 3 to try it out, but it didn't work so well, so I had to attempt to revert back to the standard installation.  But any attempt to 'apt-get install --reinstall gnome-desktop-environment' returns a bunch of things with Apt insists 'is not going to be installed'
[19:10] <Teltaria1> What's the standard approach to a problem like this?
[19:10] <rww> Teltaria1: ppa-purge
[19:10] <eoss> goddard: will you be around, im going to have questions..tryingt o work through this dhcp.conf file right now
[19:11] <auronandace> !gnome3 | Teltaria1
[19:11] <Teltaria1> rww: thank you
[19:11] <Teltaria1> ubottu: understood
[19:12] <eoss> :(
[19:12] <italoxp> Good afternoon, everybody.
[19:12] <mrsunshine> hmm, unity bar wont disapear sometimes when i do not hover over it, why ? :/
[19:12] <OmegaForte> mrsunshine, It's unity, that's why.
[19:12] <mrsunshine> heh :P
[19:12] <f3lipe_> Hey guys, how do I choose between ubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, or Edubuntu?
[19:13] <italoxp> First:do you need Edubuntu?
[19:13] <OmegaForte> God I'd hope not.
[19:13] <auronandace> f3lipe_: try them and decide what you prefer
[19:14] <f3lipe_> OmegaForte: that's what I'm asking, I'm not too sure what each of them is needed for you know?
[19:14] <italoxp> Edubuntu is a niche version of Ubuntu
[19:14] <italoxp> I guess you don't need, or you woldn't be asking ; )
[19:14] <italoxp> But between Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Kubuntu, it's personal choice
[19:14] <italoxp> Ubuntu uses GNOME, Xubuntu uses XFCE and Kubuntu uses KDE
[19:14] <italoxp> If you are more familiar with GNOME, use Ubuntu, and so on
[19:14] <FloodBot1> italoxp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:14] <italoxp> I lagged >.<
[19:14] <OmegaForte> f3lipe_, Well, ubuntu's easymode. I'd stick to it unless you want KDE, then you'd want kubuntu.
[19:14] <Teltaria1> auronandace: thanks
[19:14] <auronandace> f3lipe_: they simply use different desktop environments by default
[19:14] <f3lipe_> Perfect. Thank you guys for the help!
[19:14] <OmegaForte> f3lipe_, No Probalo.
[19:14] <italoxp> f3lipe_, if you don't know what you want, go for Ubuntu
[19:15] <auronandace> Teltaria1: no worries :)
[19:15] <italoxp> f3lipe_, the others are there for people who know what they want ;)
[19:15] <f3lipe_> Gotcha :)
[19:15] <f3lipe_> Now to continue trolling the forums to fix my nvidia driver problem :S
[19:15] <ikonia> please don't
[19:15] <OmegaForte> f3lipe_, You're having Nvidia issues?
[19:15] <italoxp> f3lipe_, we can help you here
[19:15] <OmegaForte> f3lipe_, I love fixing Nvidia Issues.
[19:15] <italoxp> f3lipe_, it's a support channel
fix my nvidia issue it is showing activated but not in use
[19:16] <eoss> goddard: ive got a dlink router, can i hook up my client and server to it and just let it hand out info or do i need to configure dhcp on the machine giving out the OS
[19:16] <f3lipe_> Ohh I didn't know that! That's awesome. I'm gonna reload Ubuntu real quick then ( i broke something) and I'll be right back :)
[19:16] <f3lipe_> Thanks guys!
[19:16] <OmegaForte> jiltdil, It's running fine. It's just lying. Jockey tends to lie.
i know it ..i only want to fix that line
 force jockey to tell the truth
[19:17] <jiltdil> :)
[19:18] <OmegaForte> jiltdil, Well, it's a known bug in 11.04
[19:18] <OmegaForte> jiltdil, Just prune it until it looks like zen, then huck it on the roof for a few hours. And you're done.
[19:18] <LABcrab> Hello!  How do i turn off the fake CD drive on my 3G stick and turn on the 3G modem?
[19:20] <pmoo> LABcrab: try to eject it: if it shows on /dev/sr0, try 'eject /dev/sr0'
[19:20]  * jiltdil jockey is also an underwear brand lolz hahahha...funny name
[19:20] <phill> how do I get my openvpn windows config file transferred into ubuntu/linux world?
[19:20] <LABcrab> pmoo: Now it works, but sometimes it does not, and i don't want to reboot it just yet, lest it breaks.
[19:21] <pmoo> LABcrab: yes, same here. Normally ubuntu ejects it automatically... but not always. So when I'm bored to wait, I just eject manually :)
[19:21] <jiltdil> LABcrab: use eject -r
[19:25] <LABcrab> pmoo jiltdil: Okay, so what you're saying is that eject -r will eject the USB virtual CD, and go to 3G modem?  What if there's a real CD drive in my laptop?  What do i type?
[19:25] <jiltdil> LABcrab: use eject -r for original cd/dvd
[19:26] <jiltdil> LABcrab: eject -r not for usb
[19:27] <guilhermeplatzec> how can i add sparkpea server here?
[19:28] <LABcrab> jiltdil: So what about a USB virtual CD tied to the stick?
[19:29] <pmoo> LABcrab: look at 'dmesg' next time your 3g stick will not show up. It may show you that the system is trying without success to mount the 3g key as cdrom (to read windoze installation)
[19:29] <tyler_d> Installing things from ppa will not work on my machine? help please?
[19:30] <girlygirl_> tyler_d: Why? what error comes up
[19:30] <robin0800> LABcrab, I think its usb modeset that splits the cd from the modem
[19:30] <dominicdinada> quick question, where in mysql is the settings to allow remote hosts to access the server.... i have a laptop and i had it set to the old laptop IP but since then my laptop ip has changed and i am unable to login
[19:30] <JoseP> ActionParsnip, you here?
[19:30] <Twilight-Sparkle> I'm finding ubuntu crashes a lot
[19:30] <tyler_d> girlygirl_: there is no error, the added source just does not show up after apt-get update
[19:30] <pmoo> LABcrab: in the dmesg log, there's the actual file name of the faulty cdrom drive.
[19:30] <Twilight-Sparkle> Any suggestions?
[19:31] <girlygirl_> tyler_d: Does this apply to different ppa's or just one
[19:31] <JoseP> I need help with an Ubuntu server
[19:31] <tyler_d> girlygirl_: no ppa's show up
[19:32] <JoseP> I have the GUI on it because I need it running a VM... I upgraded the server to Ubuntu 11.04 and had some issues. Those issues were fixed last night. The only problem I'm still facing is, the server is extremely slow
[19:32] <tyler_d> girlygirl_: if I find it and add it to sources.list then it works
[19:32] <OmegaForte> God my fame is catching up with me.
[19:32] <JoseP> anyone have any idea?
[19:32] <OmegaForte> JoseP, What's the issue now man?
[19:32] <tyler_d> JoseP: sorry, problem?
[19:32] <JoseP> it's too slow now
[19:32] <girlygirl_> tyler_d: add-apt-repository use that and check
[19:32] <eoss> dudes, i need help setting up my PXE netboot server, in dhcpd.conf now, what value am i putting in for option router <ip>
[19:33] <LABcrab> Thank you pmoo and robin0800!  i will remember these lines.
[19:33] <eoss> im just trying to connect the workstation to the server via an ethernet no router, can i omit?
[19:33] <dominicdinada> quick question, where in mysql is the settings to allow remote hosts to access the server.... i have a laptop and i had it set to the old laptop IP but since then my laptop ip has changed and i am unable to login
[19:33] <tyler_d> girlygirl_: that has been done... the command being add-apt-repository <<ppasource>>
[19:33] <whyz> hey. a friend managed to somehow disrupt an ongoing upgrade from ubuntu 10.04 to (i think) 11.04. now, do-release-upgrade fails.
[19:33] <JoseP> OmegaForte: It's slow... When you access via ssh it's not bad, but on the actual computer, it's slow
[19:33] <LABcrab> robin0800: What is the command line for modeset?
[19:34] <tyler_d> whyz: have you tried --fix-missing?
[19:34] <girlygirl_> tyler_d: yes
[19:34] <whyz> first error encounter is this: http://pastebin.com/J1esVgrf
[19:34] <whyz> after that, many more fail
[19:34] <tyler_d> girlygirl_: yes, that has been done, and afterwards an apt-get update; hwoever the applied ppa does not show?
[19:35] <phill> looking for help configuring vpn connection, have working windows config zip....
[19:35] <jqke> hi, anyone knows how to propose something to unity developers ?
[19:35] <whyz> tyler_d, i'll try fix-missing shortly, thanks
[19:35] <girlygirl_> tyler_d: what was the last mod you did before it stopped working
[19:35] <OmegaForte> JoseP, Like through VNC? May be the effects.
[19:36] <tyler_d> girlygirl_: I have installled bumblebee, however honestly I do not think it has ever worked; I tried to use it for bumblebee(non-suppported) as well now for the unreleased kernel
[19:36] <tyler_d> whyz: np
[19:36] <JoseP> OmegaForte, I barely use VNC. I have a monitor hooked up to it
[19:36] <robin0800> LABcrab, I don't know but when broadband modems first came out you had to install this  now I think its installed by default but has to recognize your dongle first
[19:37] <G000531> is there a command similair to ipconfig /all in windows that will list connection info so i can set up a static ip
[19:37] <tyler_d> OmegaForte: check out synergy, or X forwarding ;)
[19:37] <yeats> G000531: ifconfig -a
[19:37] <dominicdinada> quick question, where in mysql is the settings to allow remote hosts to access the server.... i have a laptop and i had it set to the old laptop IP but since then my laptop ip has changed and i am unable to login
[19:37] <OmegaForte> tyler_d, Why do I need to do that? I was asking him if he was using vnc.
[19:37] <yeats> dominicdinada: try /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[19:37] <JoseP> yea, I don't use VNC
[19:38] <f3lipe> Anyone know how to format a partition to NTFS (in order to install Windows on it)?
[19:38] <G000531> yeats: no dns ?
[19:38] <tyler_d> OmegaForte: didn't get background, just think they are better alternatives if the machine is right next to you with a monitor
[19:38] <ministerdude> software center - bluetooth. save to uninstal?
[19:38] <girlygirl_> tyler_d: go to /etc/apt folder
[19:38] <dominicdinada> yeats: thanks i will just rebooted the server ugh none of my remote computers can login gr
[19:38] <yeats> G000531: DNS is usually in /etc/resolv.conf
[19:39] <yeats> G000531: this is all assuming you're not using networkmanager
[19:39] <tyler_d> girlygirl_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/655821/
[19:39] <AIEmpire> When I use the command 'service --status-all' what does the output mean? In particular ? and - flags. Its just that I uninstalled some mail daemon, and its still showing up in the service list after a restart
[19:39] <wols> G000531: ifconfig -a  shows the connection info
[19:39] <lixxus> does anyone have hp dv6 switchable graphics working on ubuntu 11.04 ?
[19:39] <girlygirl_> tyler_d: cd sources.list.d/
[19:39] <tyler_d> G000531: or `ip a`
[19:39] <girlygirl_> tyler_d: the "ls" and give output
[19:40] <G000531> thanks everyone
[19:40] <tyler_d> girlygirl_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/655822/
[19:40] <mrdeb> why does a program you compile take less cpu tahn when you run it downloaded
[19:40] <girlygirl_> tyler_d: try sudo apt-get update and see if it shows an error
[19:41] <iceroot> mrdeb: because its build for your architecture instead of just i386 without optimizing for your cpu
[19:41] <iceroot> mrdeb: but normally you dont feel the difference
[19:41] <mrdeb> iceroot it is big difference, double cpu use
[19:42] <iceroot> mrdeb: no
[19:42] <mrdeb> yes
[19:42] <iceroot> mrdeb: if you compile it by yourself you dont enable threading with it
[19:42] <mrdeb> what
[19:42] <mrdeb> i am looking at cpu use and its half
[19:42] <mrdeb> so how do u explain that
[19:42] <iceroot> mrdeb: if there is no threading implementated you cant build it in by just compiling it
[19:43] <mrdeb> i dont understand
[19:43] <tyler_d> girlygirl_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/655825/
[19:43] <tyler_d> girlygirl_: no errors, alot of ign's though
[19:43] <iceroot> mrdeb: is it the exact same programversion like the binary from a deb-file?
[19:43] <mrdeb> no its from source tar
[19:43] <iceroot> mrdeb: reread it
[19:44] <JoseP> OmegaForte: do you have any idea on what's causing it?
[19:44] <girlygirl_> tyler_d: nothing wrong there strange problem, sorry no clue
[19:44] <rww> mrdeb: Go ask the developers. The impact on CPU usage by a particular program from different compiler options is not something we can really help with.
[19:44] <dominicdinada> WTF all my mysql settings are gone and it wont let me login on a headless server
[19:44] <dominicdinada> NOT COOL
[19:44] <ikonia> dominicdinada: control your language
[19:44] <tyler_d> girlygirl_: np, ty for trying
[19:45] <iceroot> dominicdinada: what does mysql-server has to do with a headless server?
[19:45] <dominicdinada> iceroot
[19:45] <iceroot> dominicdinada: what is the difference to a server with a gui?
[19:45] <OmegaForte> JoseP, I don't know what you're trying to do, or what services you're running. You'd have to tell me a buncha junk for me to get an idea of what's going on. Use a /msg
[19:45] <mrdeb> well i am just saying its good based on this one, so i am wondering if gentoo is also that more efficient if all aare done like this
[19:45] <girlygirl_> You're welcome
[19:45] <JoseP> ok
[19:45] <dominicdinada> iceroot: i have no access to it from any of the remote machines in my network anymore
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> dominicdinada: http://www.absolutelytech.com/2010/07/01/howto-reset-mysql-root-password-on-ubuntu-when-youve-forgotten-it/
[19:45] <dominicdinada> is what it has to do with it
[19:45] <iceroot> mrdeb: with gentoo you need 3 days to build everything
[19:45] <mrdeb> 3 days
[19:45] <mrdeb> why do you say that
[19:46] <rww> mrdeb: In general, there is a small enough difference that it's not worth the time spent compiling. There are a few exceptions to this. Apparently this is one of them.
[19:46] <iceroot> dominicdinada: what is "it" the shell or the mysql-server?
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: difference to a server with a GUI is used resources and lower security ;)
[19:46] <iceroot> mrdeb: build openoffice/libre-office and you see what i mean
[19:46] <tyler_d> anyone else care to take a stab at a ppa issue?
[19:46] <ikonia> tyler_d: what is the issue ?
[19:46] <B4RR13N705> hi, im having some issues with my sound... under text mode it all works, but if a start a graphical interface, I get nothing and "cannot open mixer" when I try to run alsamixer... However, It still works with SUDO
[19:46] <dominicdinada> ssh, Server
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> tyler_d: wassup?
[19:46] <guilhermeplatzec> finds.sparkpea.net 7000 = Finds server
[19:46] <mrdeb> does office 2010 starter run in wine
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> dominicdinada: I have a desktop I can SSH to...
[19:46] <dominicdinada> let me try the link ActionParsnip posted
[19:46] <ikonia> mrdeb: ask the guys in #winehq
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | mrdeb
[19:46] <ikonia> !appdb > mrdeb
[19:46] <mrdeb> ok
[19:47] <dominicdinada> long time no see ActionParsnip
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: to my knowledge, no
[19:47] <mrdeb> ok
[19:47] <iceroot> dominicdinada: so what you are talking about? mysql is not working? ssh is not working? tty-login is not working?
[19:48] <G00053> what port range is acceptable for ssh ?
[19:48] <ikonia> G00053: 22
[19:48] <LABcrab> Ciao!
[19:48] <yeats> G00053: you can define it in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[19:48] <iceroot> G00053: every port you configure in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[19:48] <wols> G00053: you can use any port you want. 22 is the usual port used
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> G00053: you can use any you want as long as they do not clash with others
[19:48] <dominicdinada> i can not get into mysql via phpmyadmin from any machine in my network.... i can not get into the command line mysql... and i didnt forget the pws.... it is like all my mysql settings are gone and i didnt do it
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> G00053: its good practice to change the port for security
[19:49] <phill> how to set up network config for a vpn connection, have the windows openvpn config zip file, but not sure how to translate to ubuntu...
[19:49] <iceroot> dominicdinada: but you have access to the shell?
[19:49] <ikonia> dominicdinada: what is the command line you are using
[19:49] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: no it's not
[19:49] <dominicdinada> ikonia: the link ActionParsnip posted
[19:49] <ikonia> dominicdinada: please show me the command you are using to connect to mysql from the command line
[19:49] <iceroot> ikonia: much less brute-force if not using port 22 (with password-auth)
[19:49] <yeats> dominicdinada: you'll probably want to describe what you changed
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: sure it is, if a service always runs on a standard port it's easier to target
[19:50] <rww> It's good practice to change the port to avoid getting logspam, but security though obscurity isn't :P
[19:50] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: no it's not, it's also breaks other services, such as cvs/svn/rsycn
[19:50] <pmoo> dominicdinada: what about 'dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.1'
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: those surely can be configured...
[19:50] <G00053> k well then is there a range of ports which i can pick one from thats generally not used by anything (so i know it won't clash)
[19:50] <AIEmpire> When I use the command 'service --status-all' what does the output mean? In particular ? and - flags. Its just that I uninstalled some mail daemon, and its still showing up in the service list after a restart
[19:50] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: there are other ways to secure a service than blindly changing ports
[19:50] <robin0800> f3lipe, disk utility or gparted
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: oh its not THE way, its just useful to do
[19:51] <ikonia> it's not useful
[19:51] <ikonia> it breaks things
[19:51] <iceroot> ikonia: why should it break things?
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: never had a single issue with it
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> !away > vDubG__Gone
[19:51] <rww> 1) set .ssh/config correctly, 2) done
[19:51] <magog_>  I need some help.  I need deb file for my program. I have sources of it. my distributive is  gentoo and i dom't know how to create deb packet on gentoo. Someone can create deb packet for me?
[19:51] <ikonia> iceroot: other services that depend on ssh will not work as it does not connect
[19:51] <iceroot> ikonia: change the port for the other programs/clients
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: the service should be able to adjust the port of the ssh service
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: exactly
[19:52] <ikonia> blindly telling people to change the ssh port without any reason or warnings about what it may break is unacceptable
[19:52] <yeats> !packaging | magog_
[19:52] <iceroot> magog_: download ubuntu/debian and build deb-files
[19:52] <dominicdinada> pmoo: i could it seems like webmin is still allowed to login to the setver and users look correct in there but i cant login via phpmyadmin it is set to 192.168.% for hosts
[19:52] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: do you know that for a fact ?
[19:52] <mattalexx> What font is being used here? Is it a popular one? I don't think it's built in: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-D4To-XOofzY/Tgo6E_xzF_I/AAAAAAAAANY/Hz-WOSXTnlU/s1600/Elegant+Gnome.png
[19:53] <magog_> I need this packages in short time and time to download and insatll distributive is very mode
[19:53] <phoque_uni> how do I filter the result of "ls" without distracting it if the filter isn't being fulfilled? (ls foo complains if foo doesn't exist)
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: well it'd be aq poor bit of kit if i couldn't. What if the app needed to conect to multiple SSH services behind a router, the oprt would need changing to connect to each
[19:53] <iceroot> magog_: you need a chroot-environment (debian/ubuntu) to build clean deb-files
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: it's not a fact but smart devs would appreciate that ffactor and allow it to be manipulated
[19:53] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: 1.) changing the port doesn't make it more secure, as it's simple to scan a box 2.) changing the port without re-configuring all other apps that use ssh will break applications 3.) no-other security will leave it just as open as running on port 22
[19:54] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: actually, most smart devs don't change the port, most smart sysadmins secure the service, without changing ports
[19:54]  * yeats sees the value of both SSH port approaches and has used each in different circumstances
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: if a scan hasn't being done then port 22 is a good assumption, so changing the port does kinda help
[19:54] <Teltaria1> ubottu: ppa-purge worked fantastically.  Thank you very much for your help.  It did exactly what I needed.
[19:54] <iceroot> ikonia: having less brute-force-/dictonary-attack is higher security
[19:54] <Teltaria1> oh... who was it that...
[19:54] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: it doesn't, pretty much all bots scan, as my log shows
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: you are right about 2 though but as I said the software connecting to it can simply be configured
[19:55] <iceroot> ikonia: because it lowering the change of guessing the password
[19:55] <ikonia> iceroot: that's why you scure ssh properly
[19:55] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: can it simpley be configured ? are you sure ?
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: who said its a bot, could just be me trying to ssh to a users IP..
[19:55] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: then you will scan the box
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: in the majority of cases, yes
[19:55] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: unless you are poor at cracking
[19:55] <iceroot> ikonia: i dont say port-change is the best way
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: what if I have no scanner and only an ssh client?
[19:55] <ikonia> iceroot: I fully agree, I find it stupid
[19:55] <iceroot> ikonia: but having much more readable logs is a good start
[19:55] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: then you would be a poor securty risk
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: I'm on a corp network as user, no admin acces to install apps
[19:56] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: then you are a poor security risk to anyone running an ssh service
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: sure but I could still get a login prompt and occasionally try logging in can't I
[19:56] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: you would be no risk
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: its a small risk, not no risk
[19:57] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: getting a login prompt is not a risk
[19:57] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: no, you are no risk
[19:57] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: what are the odds of you guessing a password even if it is 123456
[19:57] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: none
[19:57] <ctmjr> ok, so you agree to disagree on what port to use for ssh just secure the server and be done with it
[19:57] <ikonia> ctmjr: exactly
[19:58] <iceroot> ikonia: getting a login-prompt is a high risc if you have a local root-exploit
[19:58] <ikonia> iceroot: nope, not in ActionParsnip's example
[19:58] <iceroot> ikonia: it doesnt have to be a public exploit
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: no the password can be guessed, it may take a while but there is a teeny tiny risk, not zero
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> tyler_d: still got that PPA issue?
[19:59] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: so offsetting a 10000000000000000000000000 in 1 risk against blindly breaking applications, no, I don't think so, not when you can secure it properly
[19:59] <ikonia> changing the port is schoolboy poor systems adminsitration
[19:59] <yeats> heh - everybody backed away there ;-)
[19:59] <iceroot> ikonia: how to you get /var/log/auth.log clean?
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: its helpful, that's all i'm saying It doesn't absolutely secure the service but it can help by obscuring stuff
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: thats all
[20:00] <iceroot> ikonia: if there are 100000000 lines a ay with brute-force
[20:00] <ikonia> iceroot: you use other tools to secure it
[20:00] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: its not helpful
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: thats fine
[20:00] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: hence why I brough it up, it's poor systems admin that adds no value
[20:00] <iceroot> ikonia: but what about the not readable logs?
[20:00] <ikonia> iceroot: which ones ?
[20:00] <iceroot> ikonia: /var/log/auth.log
[20:01] <iceroot> ikonia: if you use pass-auth that log is full
[20:01] <ikonia> iceroot: you set up security porperly so its filled with value only
[20:01] <ikonia> iceroot: no, you can set security up properly
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: i'd disagree, which is fine
[20:01] <iceroot> ikonia: without pass-auth correct?
[20:01] <ikonia> iceroot: correct
[20:01] <ikonia> iceroot: or with password based auth
[20:02] <iceroot> ikonia: then rsyslogd is logging every login-try
[20:02] <ikonia> iceroot: you can setup logging however you want, and you can use applciations to control access which will stop the generic login attempts
[20:02] <iceroot> ikonia: and if you have a vserver you cant use iptables + failtoban
[20:02] <ikonia> iceroot: use you can
[20:03] <iceroot> ikonia: with some vserver
[20:03] <Flannel> ikonia: Look into denyhosts
[20:03] <Flannel> iceroot: ^^
[20:03] <ikonia> yes
[20:03] <iceroot> Flannel: that was killing my system....
[20:03] <Flannel> iceroot: Howso?
[20:03] <ikonia> iceroot: then you've not set it up correctly
[20:03] <iceroot> Flannel: i was baning ips which had 3 fails logins
[20:04] <iceroot> Flannel: unluckly i was also having 3 fail logins with my static ip
[20:04] <Flannel> iceroot: three consecutive failed logins, yes.  But you can tweak the numbers/etc if you'd like.
[20:04] <iceroot> Flannel: but yes its a matter of config
[20:04] <aig> hello
[20:05] <Flannel> iceroot: "with three failed logins" -- is this not a good thing?  What use-case are you thinking of?
[20:05] <iceroot> Flannel: also denyhosts is to slow
[20:05] <iceroot> Flannel: its reading /var/log/auth.log but not every second
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> hi aig
[20:05] <iceroot> Flannel: so if i start a bruteforce (maysbe with a botnet of many different ips) denyhosts is no help
[20:06] <iceroot> Flannel: also denyhost takes to long to check that a user has 1000 failed logins
[20:06] <iceroot> Flannel: if i am correct its a cron grepping auth.log
[20:06] <Flannel> iceroot: There are other methods to block slow brute force attempts.
[20:06] <Flannel> iceroot: So, first you're complaining that it blocks people too soon (after three), and now it takes too long?
[20:07] <Flannel> iceroot: Not to be rude, but it sounds like you're just looking for reasons not to use it.
[20:07] <iceroot> Flannel: slow == the time needing to see that someone is bruteforcing my system
[20:07] <iceroot> Flannel: i am just looking for reasons to say that changing the ssh-port is not a bad idea
[20:07] <iceroot> Flannel: also its not the perfect one but its not a bad idea like ikonia said
[20:07] <Flannel> iceroot: It's not a proper solution.  Security through obscurity isn't a real solution.
[20:08] <Flannel> iceroot: It may work most of the time, not all of the time.
[20:08] <Guest32378> Hi, I'm having a problem installing this game from this site ( http://www.newerth.com/?id=downloads&op=displayDownload&category=1&file=xr_setup-1.0rc3-cl_lin_prod.bin ) When I double click the bin, it says this: Could not create the archive:Archive type not supported. What do I do and how do I install it?  :-))
[20:09] <Flannel> iceroot: So if you only want to be secure most of the time, it sounds like setting up denyhosts is equally good.  It won't work if someone magically can log in 1000 times within a few seconds (if this is a genuine concern, there are ways to fix this), and won't work on slow-botnets
[20:09] <iceroot> Flannel: its making auth.log more readable so its a good idea for me
[20:09] <Redb3ard> how do I set VLC as the default player for all video files?
[20:09] <Prejudice> Anyone able to help me with this? All info in this thread:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1815574
[20:10] <OmegaForte> Redb3ard, System preferences, Preferred applications.
[20:10] <Flannel> iceroot: What do you mean?
[20:10] <iceroot> Flannel: every failed login goes to /var/log/auth.log
[20:10] <Guest20840> what's this now known as "guest" crap ?
[20:10] <Flannel> iceroot: Yes.
[20:10] <ikonia> iceroot: so change the logging
[20:10] <ikonia> iceroot: you can setup it to log as much or as little as you want
[20:10] <iceroot> ikonia: to what?
[20:10] <Flannel> iceroot: Or when you're viewing it, filter that out.
[20:10] <ikonia> iceroot: what ever you want
[20:11] <Prejudice> Guest20840: means someone has registered the nick, and put protection on it
[20:11] <Flannel> iceroot: If you use denyhosts, there will only be three "failed logins" per source, so that makes it easier to read too.
[20:11] <Guest20840> bah
[20:11] <iceroot> ikonia: yes tell me a good solution to filter out brute-force attacks but e.g. to see a normal user which just forget its password
[20:11] <Redb3ard> OmegaForte, but it doesn't show up in the drop down list.
[20:11] <Guest20840> Been so long since I used irc I cant remember how to change nick
[20:11] <Swagman> I remember that
[20:12] <Prejudice> ./nick nickname
[20:12] <Redb3ard> OmegaForte, it wants a special command to open VLC. i don't know the command
[20:12] <Swagman> yeah.. I rememberd
[20:12] <OmegaForte> Redb3ard, vlc is the name of the package
[20:12] <ikonia> iceroot: change the syslog log level for auth.log - add additional output for different event levels
[20:12] <Guest32378> ./nick nickname
[20:12] <Guest32378> ?
[20:12] <Cerrdor> pretty much
[20:12] <iceroot> ikonia: what is the difference between a brute-force failed login and a "normal" failed login? its only the number of attempts
[20:12] <Swagman> guest.. without the . in front of the slash
[20:12] <Prejudice> remove the . and change nickname to what you want
[20:13] <iceroot> ikonia: both with ssh for the user "foobar"
[20:13] <Swagman> ie: /nick Fred Bloggs
[20:13] <Redb3ard> OmegaForte, that's not working
[20:13] <Guest32378> Hi, I'm having a problem installing this game from this site ( http://www.newerth.com/?id=downloads&op=displayDownload&category=1&file=xr_setup-1.0rc3-cl_lin_prod.bin ) When I double click the bin, it says this: Could not create the archive:Archive type not supported. What do I do and how do I install it?
[20:13] <Ailan> OmegaForte: are you here?
[20:13] <Redb3ard> Anyone know how to set VLC as default player for all movies
[20:13] <OmegaForte> Ailan, I am always here.
[20:13] <OmegaForte> Redb3ard, Worked for me.
[20:14] <Ailan> OmegaForte: im home now, and I have installed Ubuntu again
[20:14] <Prejudice> Anyone able to help me with this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1815574
[20:14] <xangua> Redb3ard: right clic in the video, select vls as default
[20:14] <Flannel> iceroot: You could easily whip something up to only show you single login attempts.  But if someone forgets their password, aren't they going to try logging in with multiple passwords anyway?
[20:14] <Redb3ard> OmegaForte, yeah but i'd have to do that for each vido in my entire library
[20:14] <Flannel> "maybe I typed it wrong, maybe it's this other password instead,..etc"?
[20:14] <Guest32378> Redb3ard:System preferences, Preferred applications.
[20:14] <Ailan> OmegaForte:  Can you help me turn off as much eye candy as possible?
[20:14] <iceroot> Flannel: the same as a brute-force
[20:14] <OmegaForte> Redb3ard, No, you'd only have to do it per filetype.
[20:15] <Flannel> iceroot: What are you ultimately hoping to accomplish?  What started this whole discussion?
[20:15] <ikonia> iceroot: bruteforce are just login attempts
[20:15] <Swagman> sudo grub
[20:15] <Ailan> can anyone help me turn off as much eye candy as possible in Ubuntu 11.04 ?
[20:15] <OmegaForte> Ailan, Yeah, sure. System, preferences, appearance, and go to the fourth tab.
[20:15] <GBiancucci> Hi @ all
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> Prejudice: could boot to ubuntu and reinstall grub2 aswell as run:   sudo update-grub, may help
[20:15] <OmegaForte> Ailan, Just set it to basic.
[20:16] <iceroot> Flannel: to say that changing the ssh port is a good idea to see normally that a user forgot its password. a normal brute-force attack from a botnet is trying to bruteforce port 22
[20:16] <Ailan> OmegaForte:  Where do I find that? Ive been looking but where is it?
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> Ailan: run: ccsm    and turn off what you do not need
[20:16] <OmegaForte> ActionParsnip, It's a fresh install. CCSM isn't installed.
[20:16] <Redb3ard> OmegaForte, can you elaborate further because it's not as simple as prefered applications
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> Ailan: yuou may need to install compizconfig-settings-manager
[20:16] <Flannel> iceroot: Until a botnet figures out your new port, and then gets in.
[20:16] <GBiancucci> I'm under ubuntu 11.04 and I've and issue with pulseaudio and bluetooth, may I ask here?
[20:16] <iceroot> Flannel: a normal brute-force script is not scanning what ssh port i am on, its just looking if port 22 is open and then starts to bruteforce
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> OmegaForte: covered it dude :)
[20:16] <Flannel> iceroot: I've seen some attempts at non-22 ports, so they are out there.
[20:16] <iceroot> Flannel: yes i dont say its the perfect solution but changing the ssh port is not a bad solution
[20:17] <Ailan> OmegaForte:  where is what you are talking about? I cant find it
[20:17] <mrdeb> rww are you related to rnn
[20:17] <Guest32378> Hi, I'm having a problem installing this game from this site ( http://www.newerth.com/?id=downloads&op=displayDownload&category=1&file=xr_setup-1.0rc3-cl_lin_prod.bin ) I downloaded it and hen I double click the bin, it says this: Could not create the archive:Archive type not supported. What do I do and how do I install it?
[20:17] <ikonia> iceroot: it is
[20:17] <iceroot> Flannel: ikonia ikonia said its a bad solution because its breaking other clients
[20:17] <Ailan> ActionParsnip:  last time I used ccsm I fucked up my whole computer so I want a easy way
[20:17] <Prejudice> ActionParsnip: installing grub2 removes grub, is this right?
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Prejudice: no, just reinstall, not remove
[20:17] <xangua> !classic > Ailan
[20:17] <Flannel> iceroot: It certainly isn't a proper solution.  And some providers will not allow you to ssh into non-22 ports.
[20:17] <Prejudice> i did sudo apt-get install grub-pc
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Guest32378: mark the file as executable then run it in a terminal
[20:18] <OmegaForte> Redb3ard, What do you mean, elaborate more. If you want to set up a preferred application, you just have to tell it the name of the application it's running.
[20:18] <GBiancucci> I'm under ubuntu 11.04 and I've and issue with pulseaudio and bluetooth, may I ask here?
[20:18] <rockelle> does anyone know how to download itunes
[20:18] <Redb3ard> FOR THE RECORD: OmegaForte, is the man. Sorry, I was making it more complicated than it needed to be. thanks for your help
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> Ailan: you could log off and select Ubuntu Classic as the session as OmegaForte suggested
[20:18] <OmegaForte> GBiancucci, Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask it home-skillet.
[20:18] <iceroot> Flannel: provider on server-side?
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> Prejudice: sudo apt-get --reinstall install grub-pc; sudo update-grub
[20:19] <Ailan> ActionParsnip: is ubuntu classic less user friendly?
[20:19] <Flannel> iceroot: The internet provider for the person logging in (clientside)
[20:19] <Guest32378> 	
[20:19] <Guest32378> ActionParsnip, Ok I have marked it, how do I run it in the terminal?
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> rockelle: it may run in some versions of wine, check the appdb
[20:19] <OmegaForte> Ailan, It's gnome 2.3, It's very functional.
[20:19] <rockelle> ActionParsnip: ty
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> Guest32378: its just a command like any other now, change directory to the folder you downloaded then run:  ./filename   and it will launch
[20:19] <JoseP> Alian: http://i.windowsforums.org/pics/0c8f2281b5f68ba9f52e67620e93848f.jpg Ubuntu Classic
[20:19] <Ailan> OmegaForte:  is it a way to turn off all eye candy in !Unity?
[20:20] <Prejudice> ActionParsnip: xxxx@xxxx-MS-7599:~$ sudo apt-get --reinstall grub-pc
[20:20] <Prejudice> E: Invalid operation grub-pc
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> Ailan: its the same gnome version as in the unity desktop, it just makes it look like maverick
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> Prejudice: look at the command I gave, then look at the one you ran...
[20:20] <OmegaForte> Ailan, I don't know anything about unity, because it was designed for netbooks and people who are scared of linux.
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> Prejudice: if you copy and paste, you'll have fewer issues
[20:21] <Prejudice> ActionParsnip: I tried that, and it gave the same response, but ran the sudo update-grub
[20:21] <Ailan> How do I turn off all eye candy in Unity?
[20:21] <OmegaForte> Ailan, What eye candy?!
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> OmegaForte: why is unity any less scary than the old skool gnome desktop?
[20:21] <iceroot> Flannel: ikonia i accept your arguments but for me i will always change the ssh-port on my public machines
[20:21] <Guest32378> ActionParsnip: Sorry I'm lost. . . . I have only move onto ubuntu 2 weeks ago..... What is the command. :-))
[20:21] <Redb3ard> Ailan, logg out and log back in in classic deskop
[20:21] <Ailan> OmegaForte:  all the effects and animations
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> Guest32378: where is the file located and what is the file name (case sensitive)
[20:21] <OmegaForte> ActionParsnip, It's because it doesn't scare people away. People look at gnome and go like "MAN IT IS A MAC I AM MAD"
[20:21] <JoseP> Ailan use Compiz
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> Ailan: ccsm is used to manage the efects
[20:22] <GBiancucci> when i execute: pacmd list-sources , pulseaudio doesn't reacognize any bluez_sources or bluez_sink...but my bluetooth adapter works well with natty
[20:22] <mrjbar> has anyone had a problem with there macbook overheating with 11.04?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> OmegaForte: never heard that before
[20:22] <Redb3ard> Ailan, yeah, system, prefs, main menu, add the compiz manager to your prefs pane and us that
[20:22] <iceroot> Flannel: ikonia because for me 1. the logs are more readable and i dont want to configure rsyslog 2. i feel a little bit more save 3. i dont have problems on client-stuff scp -P, rsync over ssh -p and so on
[20:22] <Ailan> ok, I will see if I find a guide
[20:22] <Guest32378> It's in my downloads and its called: xr_setup-1.0rc3-cl_lin_prod.bin
[20:22] <OmegaForte> ActionParsnip, I've heard it too often.
[20:22] <GBiancucci> I really don't know how to have listed bluez_sources device
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> OmegaForte: mac OS also has the dock on the bottom, maybe they had their ubuntu screen on the side
[20:22] <xangua> Ailan: do you want to use unity or classic desktop¿ if it's unity with no efects you may be interested on untu-2d
[20:22] <impuls3> b /quit
[20:23] <Ailan> Redb3ard: can you explain closer? I cant find none of those
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> OmegaForte: and considering a TONNE of folks install dcky and such, its kinda the same difference...
[20:23] <JoseP> ActionParsnip
[20:23] <JoseP> I'm one of them haha
[20:23] <JoseP> this is my desktop
[20:23] <OmegaForte> ActionParsnip, I know man. I use RocketDock in windows...
[20:23] <JoseP> http://postimage.org/image/16c8s3gis/
[20:23] <GBiancucci> My problem is that I wanna to make a loopback audio from my bluetooth adapter to my pc (mic & speaker) but pacmd command doesn't recognize any bluez sources
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> OmegaForte: omg your windows looks like mac!
[20:24] <JoseP> I prefer the dock
[20:24] <Ailan> ok. I will take a look at classic.
[20:24] <OmegaForte> ActionParsnip, Sure does!
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> OmegaForte: so why is unity for people who are scared of linux..
[20:25] <OmegaForte> ActionParsnip, Because it acts like a computer in easy-mode.
[20:25] <JoseP> honestly, I don't like Unity
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> OmegaForte: its just a diffent UI. Making the OS easier to use is surely a good thing?
[20:25] <OmegaForte> ActionParsnip, I don't call unity a window manager..
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> OmegaForte: its not a WM
[20:26] <Guest32378> ActionParsnip: It's in my downloads folder and its called: xr_setup-1.0rc3-cl_lin_prod.bin
[20:26] <OmegaForte> ActionParsnip, I meant UI. Hands full.
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> Guest32378: chmod +x ~/Downloads/xr_setup-1.0rc3-cl_lin_prod.bin; ~/Downloads/xr_setup-1.0rc3-cl_lin_prod.bin      will run it
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> OmegaForte: its a user interface to launching apps and such, pretty accurate if you ask me
[20:27] <axl_> hi
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> Guest32378: if it needs admin access, run:  sudo  ~/Downloads/xr_setup-1.0rc3-cl_lin_prod.bin
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> hi axl_
[20:28] <Nobgul>  is mangler no longer in the repos?
[20:28] <iceroot> Nobgul: have a look at apt-cache search or packages.ubuntu.com
[20:29] <xsthr> hi all
[20:29] <Swagman> G'day
[20:29] <Nobgul> iceroot: yer its not comming up with a search
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> !info mangler
[20:29] <GBiancucci> no-one can help me?
[20:29] <Hellscoffe> Hello o/
[20:31] <Swagman> Yay Jenson Button
[20:31] <induz> my usb is bootable and I have .iso file...I am using UNEnetbin to burn the .iso on USB... how can I set kernal
[20:32] <Swagman> set the kernel ?
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> induz: the kernel will be the one in the ISO. There is only one..
[20:32] <mattalexx> What font is being used here? Is it a popular one? I don't think it's built in: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-D4To-XOofzY/Tgo6E_xzF_I/AAAAAAAAANY/Hz-WOSXTnlU/s1600/Elegant+Gnome.png
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> mattalexx: looks like the ubuntu font to me
[20:33] <Hellscoffe> [2]
[20:33] <Nobgul> iceroot: thanks for the help but don't worry i installed mangler on my ipad
[20:34] <petsounds> mattalexx: ttf-droid
[20:35] <induz> i was suggested to use Austrumi slackware linux on my usb but I am unable to boot on it from the usb ...what is other Linux i ca run on 1 gb USB
[20:35] <induz>  how is Linux mint
[20:35] <ikonia> induz: that's not an ubuntu issue
[20:35] <JoseP> I use it on my laptop
[20:35] <ikonia> !topic | induz
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> induz: xpud, puppy will run well :)
[20:35] <mattalexx> petsounds, Thanks!
[20:35] <induz> where should i go to get some help
[20:35] <Swagman> induz.. How powerful is your laptop ?
[20:35] <Hellscoffe> u can use slax
[20:35] <ikonia> induz: try ##linux or the distro channels you want to try
[20:36] <induz> its not laptop its dsktop
[20:36] <ikonia> guys - this is ubuntu support only
[20:36] <ikonia> induz: try ##linux
[20:36] <induz> #linux
[20:36] <ikonia> induz: (2 ##)
[20:36] <Swagman> mint is good
[20:36] <Swagman> as is debian
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> Nobgul: http://www.mangler.org/download/   there are debs there, use them at your own risk
[20:36] <ikonia> Swagman: please - I've just said this is offtopic for this channel
[20:36] <Swagman> as is Mandriva/gentoo/Arch
[20:36] <Swagman> ok
[20:37] <induz> ##linux
[20:37] <ikonia> induz: /join ##linux
[20:37] <Guest32378> ActionParsnip: Ok it's installed, Thanks for the help. . . . It really helped:-))
[20:37] <Nobgul> ActionParsnip: cheers byt the ipad solution works better. I don't have to have a headset on bothering me
[20:37] <redanthem> how can i get add_apt_repository in 11.04 server. have tried installing python-sofware-properties, doesn't like that either? thanks
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> Nobgul: I guess
[20:38] <xangua> redanthem: it's add-apt-repository
[20:38] <xangua> not _
[20:38] <redanthem> ya, sorry know that
[20:38] <redanthem> typed it wrong there
[20:39] <redanthem> did it right when i was actually trying
[20:40] <induz> thanks ikonia
[20:40] <ikonia> induz: you're still not in ##linux
[20:40] <ikonia> induz: but you're welcome
[20:40] <induz> is there any Ubuntu flavor that can fit into my 1 gb USB and make it live usb
[20:40] <ikonia> induz: all of them, they are approx 700 mb
[20:40] <xangua> lubuntu perhaps induz
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> induz: natty will
[20:41] <odie5533> What permission is require to move a directory to another name?
[20:41] <ikonia> odie5533: write permission of the target file system
[20:41] <xangua> ooh live usb, any ubuntu flavor
[20:41] <induz> I went to ## linux ikonia
[20:41] <ikonia> induz: you never joined
[20:41] <xangua> if you mean persist install, a little harder
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> induz: lubuntu will give a more responsive OS
[20:41] <induz> then where the heck i am
[20:41] <ikonia> induz: you're in #ubuntu
[20:42] <induz> ok
[20:42] <induz> I just want simple Ubuntu to run on my USB
[20:42] <induz> but its just 1 gb
[20:42] <ikonia> induz: any ubuntu distro will work
[20:42] <Hellscoffe> induz: run Slax
[20:43] <wujek_> what do U use to virtualize windows? I am insteressted in graphics acceleration
[20:43] <odie5533> If I have two folders, foo/bar, and I have write pmerission of foo, can I do anything I want with bar?
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> wujek_: virtualbox does it, games will run poorly
[20:43] <wujek_> as fat as i tested, vmware is the best choice
[20:44] <odie5533> wujek_: Wine for games, but it's not real virtualization obviously.
[20:44] <sw0rdfish> hey guys if I want a file in the init.d directory to be initiated on reboot I do: update-rc.d defaults my-init-script
[20:44] <sw0rdfish> ??
[20:44] <wujek_> on the other hand, linux virtual machines works better under virtualbox for me
[20:45] <engammalsko> How do I completly remove lamp-server with all settings?
[20:45] <Nobgul> apt-get remove lamp-server
[20:45] <engammalsko> No
[20:45] <dli> odie5533, no, first, you will need r and x of foo to access bar, then, it depends on permissions of bar
[20:45] <JoseP> sudo apt-get remove lamp-server
[20:45] <JoseP> oops
[20:45] <wujek_> ActionParsnip: I need to use graphic tools :)
[20:46] <wujek_> i don't play games.
[20:46] <wujek_> if I would, I'll buy xbox or ps :)
[20:47] <engammalsko> I can't uninstall it because I don't have java or something :S
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> wujek_: they can perform 3D stuff but it's not great. I would just dual boot for full speed
[20:47] <Nobgul> engammalsko: I think you can use the f flag to force it. sudo apt-get remove -f lamp-server , or something of that nature
[20:48] <wujek_> I have a dual boot, but is's a little uncomfortable :(
[20:48] <engammalsko> Nobgul: same, and it's server^ not server
[20:48] <exutux> engammalsko: sudo tasksel uncheck LAMP
[20:49] <nmvictor> I am trying to compile something but make is asking for java/lang/Class.h fil. Anybody with a copy of that file, i'll appreciate, I've googled the internet with no avail Please help
[20:49] <engammalsko> exutux: command not found
[20:49] <exutux> sudo tasksel
[20:49] <engammalsko> same
[20:50] <exutux> !info tasksel
[20:50] <exutux> engammalsko: install it
[20:51] <engammalsko> exutux: and then?
[20:51] <creel> does anyone know where can i find zlib library ?
[20:51] <engammalsko> I runned the command, uncheck lamp
[20:51] <alex--> engammalsko: then you can select tasks for installation on debian systems
[20:51] <exutux> engammalsko: sudo apt-get install tasksel
[20:51] <exutux> engammalsko: then sudo tasksel
[20:52] <engammalsko> exutux: I meant after that
[20:52] <engammalsko> oh nevermind
[20:52] <engammalsko> i used the taskels uncheck lamp command
[20:53] <engammalsko> exutux: Ehrm, how do I unistall? Ican only install from tasksel?
[20:53] <engammalsko> exutux: it's still checked
[20:54] <exutux> uncheck LAMP then
[20:54] <redanthem> anyone know why python-software-properties would say no installation candidate when i try to install it on 11.04 server
[20:54] <exutux> tab > OK
[20:54] <engammalsko> exutux: Yeah, with that command you said before?
[20:54] <exutux> engammalsko: from tasksel
[20:54] <engammalsko> exutux: How?
[20:55] <exutux> engammalsko: do you have installed tasksel?
[20:55] <engammalsko> exutux: yes
[20:55] <exutux> engammalsko: do you have run it? sudo tasksel?
[20:55] <engammalsko> exutux: yes
[20:55] <exutux> engammalsko: can you see LAMP voice checked?
[20:56] <engammalsko> exutux: no, but [*] LAMP
[20:56] <exutux> engammalsko: yes [*] <--- = cheched
[20:56] <lashun> Hello I have streaming problem after upgrading to oneiric alpha 2. any help
[20:57] <engammalsko> exutux: I know.... But I should uncheck it, right? :s
[20:57] <exutux> engammalsko: ok go upon it and press space bar for unslect it
[20:57] <engammalsko> lol---
[20:57] <glebihan> lashun, oneiric support is on #ubuntu+1
[20:57] <engammalsko> I tried with enter all the time haha
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> lashun: oneiric is supported in #ubuntu+1
[20:57] <lashun> ok thanks
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> lashun: not here, you are using Alpha software too, what did you expect...
[20:58] <exutux> engammalsko: [*] = Installed [] = not installed
[20:59] <engammalsko> exutux: Okay, now I try to install it again.
[20:59] <engammalsko> exutux: I don't think all the settings was removed...
[21:02] <induz> ok he/she has gone
[21:03] <engammalsko> Can someone just help me with lamp? I have reinstalled it but I need help with a few things.
[21:03] <induz> i am trying to install slackware version of Austurumi Linux on my USB
[21:04] <induz> I have downloaded the austurumi iso on my desktop
[21:04] <induz> I am using UNETbootin
[21:04] <induz> how to go about it
[21:04] <engammalsko> First of all, how do I use php on the server? I can use server based program langugaes.
[21:04] <induz> I tried but it fails to boot
[21:05] <hinogi> I need some help with wireless networks. Somehow all seems to get the -network DISABLED thing. I can up wlan devices and I can scan with iwlist but I cannot connect to any wlan
[21:05] <induz> maybe i m doing something wrong
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> induz: did you MD5 test the ISO
[21:05] <induz> MDS test??
[21:05] <archkdevm> !md5
[21:05] <induz> md5 what is that
[21:06] <Logan_> !md5 | induz
[21:06] <hinogi> the network manager also shows both as wireless disabled
[21:06] <induz> there is nothing
[21:06] <crackerjackz> i'm trying to set up vnc to run through an ssh tunnel, can anyone point me in the right direction?
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> induz: if you didn't MD5 test you have no way of knowing the data is good
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> !vnc | crackerjackz
[21:07] <induz> ActionParsnip, how can i do it
[21:07] <crackerjackz> ActionParsnip, ty
[21:07] <induz> Its hard to get this USB  make bootable
[21:08] <induz> i have been trying  since yestaerday
[21:08] <induz> I used Diskutility to make it bootable and formatted with NTFS
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> induz: use md5sum in ubuntu, you will need the hash of the image to compare
[21:08] <engammalsko> Okay I solved the php issue. Could someone please help me with mysql and phpmyadmin?
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> !away | blackdragon|afk
[21:12] <poppingkam> Hello
[21:14] <robin0800> induz, I think ntfs is part of your problem I would not expect usb creating programs can make it bootable can they?
[21:14] <Guest45374> ActionParsnip: Please could you give me that code again to run the .Bin - My computer went all funny and I had to restart.
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> Guest45374: if its already marked executable then run:   ~/Downlads/filenamehere
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> Guest45374: use tab to complete the name, if it needs admin access to install then prefix with sudo
[21:15] <phill> looking for help with network config of vpn
[21:17] <engammalsko> I know how to solve my problem
[21:17] <Guest45374> 	
[21:17] <Guest45374> ActionParsnip: It installed just fine with that command you gave me, I restarted by mistake, and it did not install completely. Would you mind repeating it again....
[21:17] <FloodBot1> Guest45374: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:17] <engammalsko> Please tell me how to reset all the configuration in phpmyadmin.
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> Guest45374: if its already marked executable then run: ~/Downlads/filenamehere
[21:18] <mongy> down lads :)
[21:20] <Guest45374> ActionParsnip: It's not working or I'm doing it wrong.
[21:21] <sandok45> irc.irc-hispano.org
[21:21] <vuth> hello
[21:23] <sandok45> libres.irc-hispano.org
[21:24] <vuth> im planning on getting ubunutu..the 64 bit version, does anyone use that one right now?
[21:24] <Guest45374> ActionParsnip: The .bin is in Downloads and its called:xr_setup-1.0rc3-cl_lin_prod.bin, How do I tell the terminal to run it?:
[21:24] <kingspider> ./
[21:25] <kingspider> to run bins its sudo ./path/to/file/blah.bin
[21:26] <goer> Is it possible to move/drag apps for one workspace to another?
[21:26] <goer> from
[21:26] <mongy> goer, use expo
[21:27] <goer> mongy: I mean, in the Workspace switcher
[21:27] <calwig> hi, I have a CD iso image, and I would like to burn it onto a DVD instead, since I have no CD-RW
[21:27] <calwig> can K3b do this?
[21:27] <vuth> she i install  the newest version of ubuntu or the Long Term Supported version?
[21:27] <dli> calwig, DVD-RW can burn CD
[21:27] <Monotoko> hey guys...maybe a bit OT...but I got a new router the other day (Belkin n150) and it works great, since my previous ISP supplied router (Sky Broadband UK) was rather crap...except every few hours...it will stop me using port 80 for 20 seconds or so...everything else will still work, pinging, IRC etc...can anyone help?
[21:27] <quem> imagine if robert de niro had been cast as han solo
[21:28] <quem> IMAGINE
[21:28] <BTC761> yay lotr http://www.livestream.com/sbeast
[21:28] <wildbat> vuth if you want STABLE stable ~ LTS ~ if you want new stuff lastest
[21:28] <dli> Monotoko, a workaround is to use a port like :8080
[21:28] <calwig> dli: I mean I have a file.iso (688MB) ISO and I only have a DVD-RW blank disk. I have no CD-RW at the moment, can I still burn it?
[21:29] <calwig> quem: whats the de niro talk about?`movie?
[21:29] <dli> calwig, yes, it should boot without problem
[21:29] <kingspider> calwig - i burn my .iso on dvds
[21:29] <Monotoko> dli...it's my outgoing connections..every website I try won't work...then it gives me "The connection has been reset"...I will reload and it will work
[21:29] <dli> calwig, as usual, remember to check 'verify data'
[21:30] <DanaG> Unity is really weird... every time I close the pidgin buddy list, it pops back up once, and then quits pidgin if I close it again.
[21:30] <DanaG> And that's even with a chat window open!
[21:30] <dli> Monotoko, weird, most routers don't block outgoing, double check your filters first
[21:30] <DanaG> How can I close just the buddy list, without quitting?
[21:30] <calwig> dli: kingspider with K3b? because it doesnt let me, do you use another package?
[21:30] <calwig> dli: kingspider I knew it was possible of course, just dont know how
[21:32] <dli> calwig, I use xfburn from xfce
[21:32] <SaEeDIRHA> hello guys , i am using ubuntu 11.04 , how can i activate remote desktop on GDM ? it guess ubuntu 11.04 uses genome 3
[21:32] <calwig> dli: will install it
[21:32] <calwig> kingspider: what package do you use?
[21:33] <kingspider> calwig: I use brasero
[21:33] <calwig> kingspider: ok thx
[21:33] <calwig> dli: thx
[21:35] <odie5533> Can I create a symbolic link to a file with root ownership and give the symbolic link user ownership and then edit the root file?
[21:36] <SaEeDIRHA> anyone could help ?
[21:37] <goer> Is it possible to move/drag apps from one workspace to another?
[21:37] <StevenR> goer: what desktop are you using?
[21:37] <goer> gnome
[21:38] <alex_under12> how do I get identified with services ?
[21:38] <goer> and compiz
[21:38] <StevenR> alex_under12: /msg nickserv help
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> SaEeDIRHA: natty uses gnome 2
[21:39] <StevenR> goer: which ubuntu release?
[21:39] <goer> latest
[21:39] <goer> 64bit
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> odie5533: the link will have the same access rights as the file you link to
[21:39] <StevenR> goer: natty narwhal? if so, classic or unity?
[21:39] <alex_under> thanks
[21:39] <goer> classic
[21:39] <StevenR> goer: right click on the title bar
[21:39] <SaEeDIRHA> ActionParsnip, tnx , how can i activate remote desktop on GDM ?
[21:40] <StevenR> goer: "Move to another workspace"
[21:40] <SaEeDIRHA> ActionParsnip, gdm.conf file doesnt exist on /etc/gdm/
[21:40] <odie5533> ActionParsnip: o
[21:40] <goer> yes, I know that. But the question is if I can DRAG apps form one workspace to another?
[21:40] <StevenR> goer: yes. at least, I can.
[21:40] <StevenR> goer: if the app is maximised, then it doesn't seem to work for me.
[21:41] <StevenR> (though I can do the rightclick-titlebar thing)
[21:41] <goer> ah, ok. that may explain it. thnx
[21:41] <OmegaForte> goer, Just have the application active, and hit Shift+Ctrl+Alt Arrow key
[21:41] <calwig> dli: worked sweet, good tip, thank you sir!
[21:41] <vuth> does ubuntu have the snap to screen section like win 7 or mint 11?
[21:41] <StevenR> OmegaForte: oo. good tip. Thanks :)
[21:41] <Autodidactite> Hi there all, is there anyway to fix the broken noise cancelling for the internal microphone in Ubuntu 11.04?
[21:42] <goer> OmegaForte: Pls read my question. Its all about dragging within workspaces
[21:42] <sterna> where is forward_method in ubuntu's amavis config?
[21:42] <DanaG> Soooooooo, how do you close pidgin buddy list without it quitting pidgin?
[21:42] <JoseP> just close the window
[21:42] <DanaG> With the classic desktop, it just goes to "noficiation area".
[21:43] <DanaG> No such luck with Unity -- it quits.
[21:43] <goer> Anyways, It would be good if this was possible.
[21:43] <JoseP> what goer?
[21:44] <goer> see my previous ?
[21:44] <JoseP> nope
[21:44] <goer> (dragging apps form one workspace to another)
[21:44] <JoseP> just drag it
[21:45] <JoseP> drag it either to the right or left
[21:45] <goer> JoseP: No, this does not work!
[21:45] <JoseP> it does for me
[21:46] <JoseP> there are some key combinations
[21:46] <th0r> goer: do you have it enabled so the workspace switches when the mouse moves off the edge? That has to be turned on in xfce to enable the drag feature
[21:46] <JoseP> you should find them by googling around a little
[21:47] <goer> No, you dont understand my question. I want to drag apps from one workspace to another by dragging. Not by key combos or anything.
[21:47] <goer> or moving mouse off the edge
[21:48] <StevenR> goer: doesn't seem to work here either. hmm.
[21:48] <goer> my point exactly. thnx
[21:48] <JoseP> make sure compiz is working
[21:49] <Troy^> how does one mount an .iso
[21:49] <goer> In windoze (in VB) I use Virtualdimension and in it you do this nicely.
[21:49] <goer> Would be good to be able to do it in gnome too :)
[21:50] <JoseP> ...you can
[21:50] <JoseP> I do it all the time
[21:50] <StevenR> Troy^: using a loop device
[21:50] <gliss_noob> So I have somehow jacked up my ability to login to the classic Ubuntu gui
[21:50] <goer> JoseP: Well, I h
[21:50] <StevenR> Troy^: there's a few howtos out there on the net, it's just a couple of commands.
[21:51] <goer> oops
[21:51] <gliss_noob> trying to fix my wife's login user
[21:51] <goer> JoseP: I hv compiz and all the bells&whistles turned on. Not sure what else to tweak to get workspace app dragging functioning then
[21:52] <dli> gliss_noob, login from console?
[21:53] <gliss_noob> I tried to reset her user permissions by "sudo chmod -R 755 /home/username
[21:53] <StevenR> gliss_noob: what actually happens when she tries to login?
[21:53] <Nobgul> When using wine where are the files physically located on the harddrive? I need to copy some files there but can't find the right path.
[21:54] <goer> Nobgul: /home/user/Wine
[21:54] <Polah> goer, Nobgul: ~/.wine, actually
[21:55] <gliss_noob> then I found this article...http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/ and tried to reset everything using  "sudo rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity" and now I cant login to any user account
[21:55] <Nobgul> cheers found it, now how do i get it to show in folder.
[21:55] <OmegaForte> Nobgul, Actually, it depends on where the files need to go. libraries and such are dependant on the build, 32 is /usr/lib/wine and 64 is usr/lib32/wine
[21:55] <frank> hi all im in now
[21:55] <OmegaForte> rm -rf..You actually did...rm -rf.
[21:55] <frank> i have a question
[21:56] <Nobgul> NEVER rm -rf anything.
[21:56] <OmegaForte> gliss_noob, Never, Ever do rm -rf.
[21:56] <Polah> Nobgul: In Nautilus, press Ctrl+H to show hidden files and folders.
[21:56] <frank> how can i install inssider in ubuntu
[21:56] <OmegaForte> Ugh...
[21:56] <Nobgul> Polah: thank you. And thank you to all who helped =)
[21:56] <ghostnik11> hi I wanted to know how I can find out my insmod for my fedora 15 os which is installed along side my ubuntu 11.04, currently my grub 2 is in control, but it can not find my fedora 15, i am trying to chain load
[21:56] <OmegaForte> gliss_noob, The only way to default something is to purge it.
[21:56] <StevenR> gliss_noob: what actually happens when she tries to login?
[21:56] <gliss_noob> @StevenR --> just hangs at splash screen... and now there is a gconf error -256 thing
[21:56] <saik> Am I in the right place for ubuntu SERVER support?
[21:57] <Polah> saik: If it's to do with Ubuntu then yes, we'll help you.
[21:57] <engammalsko> test
[21:57] <OmegaForte> engammalsko, You failed.
[21:57] <saik> Polah: trying to access a website on my server
[21:57] <Polah> Has anyone else that uses Mumble had issues with not hearing or being able to see anyone speak after closing out of the program while deafened?
[21:57] <StevenR> saik: there's also #ubuntu-server, but it's rather quiet over there right now.
[21:58] <Polah> saik: What's the actual problem you're having?
[21:58] <engammalsko> OmegaForte: Failed with what? When I typed "test"?
[21:58] <OmegaForte> engammalsko, It's a gag.
[21:58] <gliss_noob> i tried to uninstall/reinstall nautilus with apt which seemed to work just fine, but now there isnt even an error...just sits at splash screen until screen goes to power saver mode
[21:58] <slide> Is TrueCrypt the only way to get a Hidden Volume for plausable deniability purpose? or is there some way to set this up with the crypt ubuntu has?
[21:58] <saik> Polah: I'm trying to access 10.0.0.51 (web address locally) and the server is refuing my connection from my windows PC, but it pings just fine
[21:59] <StevenR> gliss_noob: ok. switch to a console (ctrl-alt-F2) and login. Can you login?
[21:59] <burgua> hi all!
[21:59] <saik> Polah: chrome says this: Error 102 (net::ERR_CONECTION_REFUSED): The server refused the connection.
[21:59] <burgua> how to rename eth1 to wlan0? (10.04)
[21:59] <StevenR> saik: sounds like apache isn't running
[21:59] <gliss_noob> yea...i have done most of this from a tty session
[21:59] <OmegaForte> slide, I hate to ask....Why do you need a hidden partition.
[21:59] <StevenR> gliss_noob: ok. is just one user account affected?
[21:59] <saik> StevenR: I'm 99% sure it is, but how would I make sure?
[22:00] <gliss_noob> nope...all user accounts
[22:00] <slide> OmegaForte, i dont really NEED one, but i want it heh
[22:00] <saik> StevenR: because if thats the case mysql probably isn't either
[22:00] <OmegaForte> slide, Okay, we're taking this to a PM.
[22:00] <Polah> burgua: Networks icon on the panel > Edit connections > Select eth1 > Edit and change connection name
[22:00] <StevenR> saik: on the server, ps aux|grep apache   (assuming you're using apache)
[22:00] <saik> yea, I am apache-tomcat
[22:01] <StevenR> saik: um. what do you want to serve from this webserver?
[22:01] <Polah> frank: Go here https://github.com/metageek-llc/inSSIDer-2-Cross-Platform/downloads and select the .deb package appropriate to you. amd64 for a 64-bit system, i386 for 32-bit
[22:01] <saik> StevenR: pivate server for a game
[22:01] <burgua> Polah: will it rename device name? o_0
[22:01] <saik> and there's several highlighs of apache
[22:02] <StevenR> saik: ok, so do you need tomcat?
[22:02] <Polah> burgua: What do you mean by device name?
[22:02] <saik> yes
[22:02] <StevenR> saik: sudo netstat -ntlp |grep java   (see any lines?)
[22:03] <burgua> Polah: my wlan card is identified as eth1. I want make it identified as wlan0
[22:03] <saik> StevenR: 4 of hem, all with the ports that should be ope. but some have n IP
[22:04] <brainproxy> I've got: Defaults  env_keep="PATH OTHER" in my sudoers but PATH is getting reset by sudo even though OTHER is not
[22:04] <Polah> burgua: No, that's the connection name.
[22:04] <brainproxy> as determined by something like `sudo sh -c printenv`
[22:04] <saik> StevenR: in fact, the ones thatdo have an IP are pointing tolocalhost..
[22:05] <gliss_noob> @StevenR --don;t know if you saw my response, but all of the user accounts are affected. there;s only two...just mine and hers
[22:05] <saik> StevenR: and what I'm runing has to be run from root, so no need for sudo
[22:05] <frank> i tried to install that but i have some error
[22:06] <StevenR> saik: can you pastebin the output?
[22:06] <cliffton> hey any one around? im brand new to this maybe some one can help me
[22:06] <DanaG> damnit, unity... stop killing pidgin when I close the buddy list!
[22:06] <rhizmoe> man, i think my 10.10 install is choking a little from having the cpu/mobo changed out from under it
[22:06] <saik> StevenR: I can't. 1 server, 2 it's local only
[22:06] <th0r> DanaG: have you turned off the system tray icon?
[22:06] <cliffton> im trying to install skype to xbuntu, is it possible??
[22:06] <DanaG> No, it's on, but doesn't appear.
[22:07] <saik> StevenR: it's runtrough VMware, its not meant to be online
[22:07] <cliffton> i get error: Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libqt4-dbus (>= 4.4.3)
[22:07] <StevenR> saik: well, it's gonna be kind of tough to help you, without knowing what the output is
[22:07] <DanaG> Here's what happens:  I open pidgin, it opens the buddy list and the chat window.
[22:07] <DanaG> I close the buddy list... it comes back.
[22:07] <DanaG> I close it again, and Pidgin quits.
[22:07] <burgua> Polah: no, it's alias for device defined with MAC_address. E.g. 00:19:b9:88:62:f7 >> eth0
[22:07] <saik> StevenR: the output lines for the java comand?
[22:07] <StevenR> saik: yup
[22:08] <frank> when i wanna install inssider  i get this error >>> Dependency is not satisfiable: libgtk2.0-cil (>= 2.12.10)
[22:08] <saik> StevenR: pm ok, I will copy each line by hnd
[22:08] <cliffton> hey could some one give me a hand, please,,,,
[22:08] <saik> ?
[22:08] <chrome_> My computer was interrupted during an update. Now I can't boot ubuntu. What should I do?
[22:08] <frank> any idea?
[22:08] <saik> !ask | cliffton
[22:08] <gliss_noob> If i reinstall ubuntu...what will that do to my existing data and applications?
[22:08] <StevenR> saik: just throw it in a pastebin, then everyone can see... if it's got only a 10.x address, it's not gonna be attackable :)
[22:09] <saik> true..
[22:09] <electronbeam> I need some help, I've encountered a strange issue in both mint and ubuntu that I think has something to do with nouveau or nvidia-utils. Boot hangs on this line: vgaarb: device changed decodes:PCI:0000:00:01.0,olddecodes=io+mem,decodes=none:owns=none... can anyone help me out?
[22:09] <cliffton> hi, im running, xbuntu, i got every thing working except skype, some one give me a hand ???
[22:09] <Polah> burgua: Each connection has the device it's using MAC address set for it. Just under where I told you to change the connection name is a field name "Device MAC address". Changing the connection name will not remove the MAC address there.
[22:09] <mattalexx> I'm running a deploy script over and over again, testing it. Everytime the script runs, the VM is reset. How can I make it so apt-get install doesn't have to redownload things over and over?
[22:10] <cliffton> :( no one can help me get skype running?
[22:10] <chrome_> how can I recover my system?
[22:10] <cliffton> sigh
[22:11] <burgua> Polah: yep. But I need to make my wlan card defined as wlan0 for all connections.
[22:11] <Polah> burgua: So you need to get the MAC address of your network card and set the Device MAC Address for each connection to that.
[22:12] <gliss_noob> anyone?
[22:12] <cliffton> im not gettig any help here
[22:12] <saik> StevenR: http://pastebin.com/0pt689cn
[22:12] <cliffton> some one help me get skype running on xbunutu???
[22:13] <Polah> cliffton: Ask and wait, don't be impatient. If nobody helps then probably nobody who's currently here can. You could try installing the dependency names through apt-get and then retry installing Skype
[22:13] <Polah> chrome_: Depends what you did to break it.
[22:13] <ghostnik11> when someone is posting some thing in ubuntu forums and they want to take something from terminal and post do I use the wrap in code option or somthing else?
[22:13] <saik> cliffton: just install it like windows..
[22:13] <Polah> gliss_noob: If you format the drive during install, your data will be lost. Back up the data you wish to keep before reinstalling Ubuntu.
[22:14] <gliss_noob> @Polah ... Can I just reinstall over the top of the existing installation?
[22:14] <ctmjr> !pastebin | ghostnik11,
[22:15] <Polah> gliss_noob: Probably if you don't format, but you might still lose data on the partition you're installing to. Someone might know better.
[22:15] <ghostnik11> ctmjr: i can use pastebin to post something into forums, do i have to wrap in a hyperlink?
[22:15] <saik> ghostnik11: you mean hyperlink to it?
[22:15] <StevenR> saik: try http://ip:8080
[22:15] <cliffton> thanks guys, guess i had to install some repositories first, it worked now
[22:15] <ctmjr> ghostnik11, not that i am aware of
[22:16] <Polah> ghostnik11: Just paste the code into your post on the forums. You could wrap it in code tags if you wish but it's not necessary.
[22:16] <gliss_noob> how do I mount the usb drive that doesn't seem to have mounted like it normally does? I actually wanted to back up all my data to it before I came here using rsync
[22:16] <saik> StevenR: lient orserver?
[22:16] <saik> StevenR: client or server?
[22:16] <Crash03> ok now if installed the nwrapper and used it to add my windows driver for my wlan now what?
[22:16] <ghostnik11> saik: yeah i am sending someone a question, polah okay won't do that then will just post it
[22:16] <StevenR> saik: server's IP, from the client
[22:16] <chrome_> Polah: my pc was interrupted during an update. Now when I boot it, it says "mountall: Disconnected from Plymouth"
[22:16] <Polah> saik: Are you trying to run  Apache here?
[22:17] <StevenR> saik: tomcat looks to be listenin on port 8080 (http) and 8443 (https) ... 8005 *might* be an admin port, but it's been a while since I managed tomcat
[22:17] <Polah> chrome_: I don't know about fixing that, someone else might. As far as I know a clean install from a LiveCD would be the easiest option
[22:17] <Crash03> where do i find the terminal in ubuntu 11.4
[22:17] <saik> StevenR: error 102
[22:17] <Polah> Crash03: Unity or Classic?
[22:17] <Crash03> note shur
[22:17] <Crash03> the live cd
[22:17] <StevenR> saik: mmm?
[22:18] <Polah> Crash03: That's Unity. Search for "Terminal" at the top left search bar, or just use Ctrl+Alt+T
[22:18] <saik> StevenR: servr ip, for the record is 10.0.0.51
[22:18] <Crash03> ty
[22:18] <saik> StevenR:  Error 102 (net::ERR_CONECTION_REFUSED): The server refused the connection.
[22:18] <StevenR> saik: for port 8080?
[22:18] <saik> StevenR: yes
[22:18] <chrome_> Polah: a clean install from a LiveCD, or from an ubuntu iso?
[22:18] <Crash03> i have installed the nwrapper then used it to add my windows driver for my wlan usb what next
[22:19] <StevenR> saik: actually, from that pastebin, looks kindof like tomcat is only listening on ipv6 addresses
[22:19] <o11o1oo1> hi folks, i am trying to install ubuntu 11.04 via the mini netboot install onto an intel 320 SSD. the install works fine (300mb boot, rest lvm encrypted), but once i try to boot the system, it just blacks out and there is no action on the harddrive (led is off) - any ideas?
[22:19] <Polah> chrome_: The ISO is what you use to create a LiveCD, you burn it.
[22:19] <saik> StevenR: how do I make it listen to ip4?
[22:19] <saik> ipv4*
[22:19] <StevenR> saik: alter the config.... /etc/tomcat5 ?
[22:19] <Guest17117> i sidegraded from ubuntu to kubuntu, now i cant boot normal anymore, what could i try besides a complete wipe?
[22:20] <Guest17117> right now i'm in recovery
[22:20] <Polah> 011o1oo1: There are hardware issues with the Intel 320 Series
[22:20] <Polah> Guest17117: What do you mean you can't boot normally? It fails to boot, or just shows a blank screen or what?
[22:20] <StevenR> saik: I'm not precisely sure, but now you know more why it's not working
[22:20] <RJvm_> 1
[22:20] <saik> StevenR: it's blank
[22:21] <saik> I that that's in another locaion (tomcat that is)
[22:21] <Guest17117> it freezes when saying "checking battery"
[22:21] <Crash03> can anyone help with my wlan driver usb
[22:21] <o11o1oo1> Polah: well i know about the issue of it showing only 8MB, but thats when you power it down in an improper way. but its reporting the right size and stuff
[22:21] <StevenR> saik: ok. well, you need to alter the config, whereever it is.
[22:21] <o11o1oo1> Polah: or are you refering to ubuntu vs. intel 320 issues?
[22:22] <Polah> o11o1oo1: Referring to the 8MB bug.
[22:22] <DanaG> i love Intel's description:
[22:22] <DanaG> Intel acknowledged "Customer Sightings".
[22:22] <DanaG> What, are customers now UFOs?
[22:23] <saik> StevenR: any idea HOw to edit it?
[22:24] <StevenR> saik: it's a text file, so your favourite text editor will do... Sorry, I just dunno where it's located, and I don't have access to the tomcat system I used to manage
[22:25] <StevenR> saik: locate server.xml
[22:25] <StevenR> That's probably a starting point.
[22:25] <chrome_> Polah: will I lose my data with a clean install?
[22:25] <alex--> How do I know if i need freenas or ubuntu server?
[22:26] <K350> What is the name of the Swedish locale in the repo?
[22:26] <ghostnik11> okay the forums have told me i text is too long I have to shorten it, since thats the case if I pastebin my codes that I want the person to look at from terminal, it doesn't matter how long the person has to reply to email b/4 that pastebin link gets destroyed
[22:26] <meganerd> alex--: it depends on what you want to do and how you want to do it.  Also since freenas is BSD based, there are hardware driver differences, so your hardware may not be supported by freenas
[22:27] <Guest17117> polah, i found some imput on this on here bit.ly/piXiuw
[22:27] <Guest17117> seems to fit since i got swichable graphics
[22:28] <alex--> meganerd: so you say: ubuntu ?
[22:29] <K350> what's the name of the english locale?
[22:29] <Polah> chrome_: Perhaps. Back up your important data beforehand
[22:30] <chrome_> ok
[22:30] <Toph2> anyone make constant use of Ubuntu One?
[22:30] <Polah> Guest17117: I don't know, I can't help you.
[22:30] <Python> Evening!
[22:30] <DanaG> alex--: I tried FreeNAS, and opted for ubuntu server with zfs.
[22:30] <DanaG> FreeNAS didn't do things such as checking for ECC errors.
[22:30] <meganerd> alex--: again it depends.  If you are very comfortable with Linux, or if you want greater flexability, then Ubuntu is the way to go.  If you are looking for a GUI managed appliance then freenas or Openfiler (a Linux based distro similar in nature to freenas) is the way to go.
[22:30] <DanaG> Or at least, gave no visible indication of doing that.
[22:31] <DanaG> And it's much nicer being able to use apt.
[22:31] <alex--> meganerd: maybe that's the problem, I want both
[22:31] <Guest17117> kk, i'll just reinstall.. ty
[22:31] <alex--> DanaG: ECC?
[22:31] <meganerd> alex--: If you are after zfs then OpenSolaris or FreeBSD are probably going to be your best bet.
[22:31] <Guest17117> exit
[22:31] <DanaG> yeah, I wish there were a FreeNAS UI on Ubuntu.
[22:31] <DanaG> I tried OpenIndiana... it was a royal pain to find anything!
[22:31] <DanaG> Such as deluge.
[22:31] <saik> StevenR: web.xml ?
[22:31] <DanaG> ECC -- error checking memeory.
[22:31] <alex--> DanaG: anyone want to help to port it?
[22:32] <meganerd> alex--: there is a web based management front end that you can install, webmin is what it is called IIRC.
[22:32] <DanaG> ebox... didn't do anything like what freenas does.
[22:32] <alex--> meganerd: not as simple as freenas
[22:32] <StevenR> saik: google sugests otherwise
[22:32] <meganerd> I have not used webmin in close to 10 years, so I have no idea what the state of is these days.  I know that it is still actively maintained, but beyond that I have no idea.  SSH all the way for me
[22:33] <StevenR> saik: sorry, I don't remember.
[22:33] <alex--> meganerd: I dont like SSH when it goes to maintaining a NAS system at home
[22:33] <meganerd> alex--: if you want simple, then give up on flexibility.
[22:33] <saik> StevenR: ok, foundserver.xml
[22:34] <saik> StevenR: (tat took awhile) what Am I looking for?
[22:34] <meganerd> alex--: then it sounds like you have answered your question :)
[22:34] <alex--> meganerd: what do you mean by flexibility?
[22:34] <alex--> meganerd: i want a gui, but a good one :)
[22:34] <matalo> hi, trying to install php5-sqlite but it depends on an older version of php5-common. Can I override this?
[22:35] <meganerd> alex--: I mean adding services.  My main server also runs apache, sabnzbd, and it does my torrenting.
[22:35] <meganerd> alex--: it also has all of my storage.
[22:36] <Krampus> Is there a common issue with SATA optical drives that'd explain why my CD-ripping program is taking forever?
[22:36] <Krampus> (it's not reading errors as far as i can tell)
[22:36] <Krampus> it's just... much slower than i'd expect.
[22:36] <alex--> meganerd: lets say my question in another way: I want a simple to use system, that haves network attached storage, backup server, synchronisation server, basic webserver, mysql server, torrent download server. And one that haves a low power consumption. What do you suggest then?
[22:37] <cyros> hey guys friend of my mine has a mailserver on Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope...SSH stopped working so he apt-get remove openssh-server but now when it tries an apt-get update and an apt-get install it is unable to connect to the repositories...Now i know the releas is not LTS, and they stop doing security updates but do they also cut out install software from apt-get also ?
[22:37] <meganerd> alex--: I don't know of anything that does all of that.  If you drop simple then Ubuntu fits the bill, it just might take a little work to get it all running
[22:38] <DanaG> meganerd: I have an HP Microserver.
[22:38] <StevenR> saik: I don't know (been too long since I worked with tomcat, and I don't have a reference system any more)
[22:38] <DanaG> Nice piece of hardware, for cheaper than I could build myself.
[22:38] <Flannel> cyros: After a release goes EOL for a few months, the repositories stop being mirrored and are moved, yes.
[22:38] <cyros> Flannel: thanks
[22:39] <cyros> Flannel so can you point them to an archived rep or do you have to update to the next LTS?
[22:39] <saik> StevenR: sad prt ofthis is I did it according to a video tutorial, to a T...
[22:39] <meganerd> DanaG: I have way more than 4 disks :)
[22:39] <Flannel> cyros: They are still available, for archival purposes, at old-releases.ubuntu.com, but this should be used as a stepping stone for upgrading... sounds like an LTS would be suitable :)
[22:39] <saik> StevenR: andhis workd jus fine, mine doesn't :@
[22:40] <cyros> Flannel: thanks
[22:40] <saik> StevenR: I'll se if he replies aytime son. thanks for trying
[22:41] <saik> StevenR: I'll see if he replies anytime soon. thanks for trying *
[22:41] <faustisch> how do I find the UUID of my ipod in Ubuntu?
[22:42] <mongy> !blkid > faustisch
[22:42] <Flannel> faustisch: `sudo blkid` will display UUIDs, I believe your ipod should be in there (provided it's connected, etc)
[22:42] <faustisch> mongy, Flannel, thank you guys, I was entering it w/o sudo
[22:43] <faustisch> "sudo blkid" does not see my ipad
[22:43] <faustisch> s/ipad/ipod/
[22:43] <OmegaForte> faustisch, I have some info relevant to this conversation.
[22:43] <faustisch> it is connected
[22:44] <faustisch> OmegaForte, please, will you share it with me?
[22:44] <faustisch> I have no windows at all neither in the office nor at home, let alone iTunes
[22:44] <Flannel> faustisch: Why are you trying to find the UUID? I don't know anywhere it's required
[22:45] <faustisch> Flannel, I've found a way to sync my brand new Ipod Touch with banshee
[22:45] <centr0> why would cp return cp: cannot create regular file `/home/me/apps/tomcat-1/webapps/uPortal/media/skins/universality/newskin/images/.svn/text-base/arrow_down.png.svn-base': Permission denied?
[22:45] <faustisch> Flannel, I've ssh-ed to the device and tampered with some xml files
[22:46] <Flannel> centr0: Permissions (write permission, wrong user, etc)
[22:46] <OmegaForte> faustisch, https://launchpad.net/~pmcenery/+archive/ppa
[22:46] <centr0> Flannel: im copying to my home dir. i believe i have full write perms for that, right?
[22:46] <meganerd> Flannel: faustisch I was not aware that you could connect an iphone or ipad to Linux.
[22:47] <OmegaForte> faustisch, That lets you us the ipod touch/phone/dringus for the linux.
[22:47] <meganerd> centr0: not necessarily.  You can change the permissions of a folder inside your home directory so that you do not have write (or any particular priv)
[22:47] <OmegaForte> faustisch, I use it for tethering.
[22:47] <faustisch> OmegaForte, thank you
[22:48] <faustisch> OmegaForte, love ya, you're the man!
[22:49] <OmegaForte> faustisch, Yeah, I've heard that three times today...
[22:49] <OmegaForte> faustisch, I don't get it though.
[22:49] <centr0> hmm  the svn dir default perms was: drwxr-xr-x 6 me me  4096 2011-07-30 21:43 .svn.   where svn is colored red.  any idea why?
[22:50] <meganerd> centr0: sounds like you need to change the permissions
[22:50] <DanaG> Say, how the heck do you enable multicast forwarding?
[22:52] <meganerd> DanaG: off the top of my head you need to enable forwarding (there is a sysctl way to do it), then you need some rules to forward the multicast traffic.  I am assuming that you want to forward to hosts behind a NAT?
[22:52] <gliss_noob> ok...so what I just realized, is that my Ubuntu Classic login option has disappeared
[22:52] <Flannel> centr0: "red" means compressed/archived, apparently.
[22:52] <gliss_noob> anyone have any idea how to fix it?
[22:52] <DanaG> What I'm trying to do is to get hosts on the other end of an ipsec+l2tp tunnel to see my upnp stuff.
[22:52] <DanaG> mediatomb is running on the microserver, which is also the vpn server.
[22:53] <DanaG> But hosts on the other end don't seem to see it.
[22:53] <DanaG> So, I don't necessarily need routing... I just need the multicast to go out ppp0.
[22:53] <DanaG> http://amailbox.org/mailarchive/git-commits-head/2009/1/30/4859574
[22:53] <DanaG> ah.
[22:54] <gliss_noob> I can login to the gui using Unity just fine...but I really dont like the interface and really want my Classic Gnome interface back
[22:54] <meganerd> DanaG: you already have routing, I have not messed with multicast very much.  Just lots of custom built routers for regular point to point traffic
[22:54] <Nobgul> wwwwwwwss
[22:55] <astraljava> gliss_noob: You can select the Ubuntu Classic in the login prompt (GDM greeter), from the session bar at the bottom of the screen.
[22:56] <DanaG> So maybe upnp doesn't like the 255.255.255.255 subnet mask on the l2tp.
[22:56] <meganerd> DanaG: that will only broadcast to a single host
[22:58] <meganerd> DanaG: you are masking everything except the IP of the originating IP
[22:58] <DanaG> Anyway, that's what ppp0 is giving.
[22:58] <DanaG> 255.255.255.255.
[22:58] <meganerd> DanaG: 255.255.255.0 masks everything but a /24 block
[22:58] <DanaG> It really ought to be doing 255.255.255.252!
[22:58] <DanaG> Or .254.
[22:59] <meganerd> DanaG: PPP means point to point protocol
[22:59] <centr0> thanks meganerd Flannel .  just recursively deleted all .svn dirs
[22:59] <tripelb> re theme controls: I choose for legibility. I chose "dust sand" so far so good. But the controls are all dots. I want normal BOX __ X  the alternatives in "appearance preferences are all dots. How can I get the kind I want? (thanks)
[22:59] <DanaG> Anyway, xl2tpd seems to be running pppd for the actual connection.
[22:59] <gliss_noob> @astraljava --Thats what I am saying...the ubuntu classic option is gone from there
[23:00] <astraljava> gliss_noob: Oh, then you must have removed something. Perhaps a simple `sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop` could bring it back?
[23:00] <DanaG> er, wait... I installed pimd, and now, like 30 minutes later, the upnp share appeared.
[23:01] <jzero8888> Hello, I am trying to copy a Directory with Sub-Directories to an external HD that contains most of the same files but has new files added. I know I want to copy recursively, but for some reason when I issue the command "sudo cp -R -r -v /mnt/dir1 /mnt/dir2" it creates a new folder and starts copying over everything into the new folder. What is going wrong? Or is there addition parameters needed?
[23:01] <q_> hello yal
[23:01] <mongy> jzero8888,  rsync
[23:01] <q_> whats up its q im using lubuntu 11.04
[23:01] <gliss_noob> I already uninstalled/reinstalled nautilus, which reinstalls gnome and I thought I saw the ubuntu-desktop in the list of packages
[23:01] <jzero8888> mongy: rsync eh? So forget about 'cp'?
[23:02] <meganerd> jzero8888: just use rsync, for example: "rsync -rvu --progress /mnt/dir1/ /mnt/dir2/"
[23:02] <mongy> jzero8888, rsync -av /mnt/dir1/ /mnt/dir2/
[23:03] <DanaG> --progress is helpful.
[23:03] <jzero8888> mongy: awsome thanks. meganerd thanks.
[23:03] <mongy> I guess
[23:03] <tyler_d> I just reconfigged my laptop with the new kernel and the standardized supported nvidia-current drivers, restarted and ensured tehy are active, however unity is not working. ??
[23:03] <tripelb> I installed alarm-clock. why does it say "previously deselected package"? When did I deselect it?
[23:03] <Hathadar> nect
[23:04] <gliss_noob> @astraljava --so I did it anyway, and it seems that it didn't reinstall along with Nautilus...since it will use an additional 14.5MB of space
[23:04] <faustisch> OmegaForte, this works like a charm and syncs with Banshee: http://marcansoft.com/blog/2011/01/syncing-music-in-new-idevices-with-linux/#comment-35370
[23:04] <faustisch> just synced my Jimi Hendrix collection
[23:05] <astraljava> gliss_noob: I have absolutely no idea what that is about. Nautilus is part of GNOME, which is part of ubuntu-desktop. Can you pastebin the output of that command, please?
[23:05] <jzero8888> mongy meganerd working perfectly, thanks!!
[23:05] <tripelb> I want a timer that takes a time-interval not a clock-time. I also want it to "ring off".  Please help.
[23:06] <gliss_noob> @astraljava -- which command?
[23:07] <astraljava> gliss_noob: The command I gave you, which I thought you ran, but was apparently misunderstanding.
[23:08] <MACscr> how can i enter single user mode so i can fix my user groups? Right now i have no sudo abilities because my root group somehow got removed when i added myself to another group
[23:08] <gliss_noob> sure...how do I pastebin it?
[23:09] <DasEi> !paste
[23:09] <DasEi> MACscr: when grubs start to load, press left shift, choose recoverymode
[23:10] <Flannel> MACscr: In the future, don't use usermod, use adduser, to add yourself to groups.
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> MACscr: hold shift at boot, select recovery mode then select root, you can then add yourself to the admin group
[23:13] <ejcweb> I've got a Ubuntu machine which I would like to use as a proxy, so that whereever I am in the world I can channel internet through it when I need to for specific sites. I think this might need VPN. Is this easy to achieve? Thanks!
[23:13] <krazykrivda> I am unable to mount my vfat partition rw.. i was using fstab: UUID=410B-6300 /mnt/FILES vfat user,auto,rw,exec,users 0 0.. this is no longer working.  what should i do?
[23:15] <tryggvib> quick question: if I run iwconfig and get eth1 and wifi0 configurations as result with the same configurations isn't there something wrong... shouldn't there just be either eth1 OR wifi0 (I'm fixing my wifi which isn't working)?
[23:15] <tripelb> this theme has 3 black dots for box--X -- I want the normal or at least different colored dots. Help please.
[23:16] <OmegaForte> grep - i trileb
[23:16] <OmegaForte> ER
[23:16] <OmegaForte> Dammit.
[23:16] <OmegaForte> I got it wrong, and used grep in irc.
[23:16] <OmegaForte> Ugh. I need to take five.
[23:16] <DasEi> krazykrivda: the blkkid looks too short to me , see : sudo blkid for that partition and check against fstab
[23:16] <Serraphyn> Is there away to install a vncserver from CLI on a ubuntu box that I don't have a monitor on? it has gnome and everythign running just need to know how to install a remote desktop package
[23:16] <krazykrivda> DasEi: it is mounted just fine.. but not with rw access
[23:17] <OmegaForte> krazykrivda, did you add rw to the mount args?
[23:17] <th0r> Serraphyn: sudo apt-get install vnc4server?
[23:17] <gliss_noob> @astralserver -- thanks...the reinstall of ubuntu-desktop actually fixed my issue
[23:17] <krazykrivda> user,auto,rw,...
[23:17] <gliss_noob> sorry @astraljava
[23:17] <astraljava> gliss_noob: Good, while I'm not a server, actually. :D
[23:17] <krazykrivda> OmegaForte: user,auto,rw,.. and so on. yeah it is there
[23:17] <DasEi> krazykrivda: is the mountdir owned to regular user ? (ls -la /mnt/FILES)
[23:17] <Serraphyn> th0r, configs and such I'm sure follow, not looking for the start of a project but the entire guide if one exists
[23:18] <th0r> Serraphyn: install it, then try vncserver :0 It has been a while, but I think that will do it
[23:18] <krazykrivda> DasEi: everythiugn comes back root root with that command
[23:18] <DasEi> oo
[23:18] <th0r> Serraphyn: should be able to get to it on port 5901 if I remember correctly, but might be 5900
[23:19] <krazykrivda> my fstab entry had been working up til recently.. id din't edit it so im' not sure what change i mde to efect it
[23:19] <DasEi> krazykrivda: sudo chown -R $USER /mnt/FILES
[23:19] <Serraphyn> th0r, no package found for vnc4server
[23:20] <wildbat> DasEi: it is vfat ~ you can't chown
[23:20] <Serraphyn> lol nvm, it worked, for some reason iddn't the first time
[23:20] <DasEi> wildbat: the mountdir on the host ?
[23:21] <krazykrivda> DasEi: yeah it is vfat.. that returned everything to be read only file system
[23:21] <wildbat> krazykrivda: can root write to it?
[23:22] <anygivenname> I found a solution for my fail2ban errors on a website & appreciate if anyone can help me understand what to do
[23:23] <krazykrivda> wildbat: no
[23:23] <Serraphyn> th0r, thanks, worked after all
[23:23] <anygivenname> http://www.fail2ban.org/wiki/index.php/Fail2ban_talk:Community_Portal
[23:23] <DasEi> krazykrivda: mount                  shows it as mounted ? df -h reveals enough disk-space ?
[23:24] <wildbat> krazykrivda: what ls -la /mnt/ give you ?
[23:24] <teknova> I have an ATI Radeon HD 4200 on-board GPU and a GeForce 8400 GS pci 16x both with vga output and need to know how to dual screen like in windows xp. I am running Xubuntu 11.04
[23:25] <DanaG> ARGH, stupid pidgin... keeps quitting every time I close the buddy list -- even with a freaking chat window open!
[23:25] <krazykrivda> DasEi: yes wildbat: http://paste.ubuntu.com/655928/
[23:25] <DanaG> And that's only under Unison, which won't let it create a notification-area icon.
[23:26] <eqyiel_> channel remove -ubuntuu
[23:26] <eqyiel_> lol
[23:26] <eqyiel_> *facepalm*
[23:26] <krazykrivda> wildbat: dasei: if you are still able to help please pm.. although I will not be here for 15-20 min.. thank you
[23:27] <anygivenname> anyone can help with fail2ban ?
[23:27] <teknova> how would i install two video drivers with jockey installed
[23:27] <teknova> ?
[23:27] <DasEi> krazykrivda: tried chown already ? should be owned by regualr user now
[23:27] <NaOH> i want to ssh into my home computer from the internet, but i cannot forward the ports on my router. is this possible?
[23:28] <Polah>  NaOH: No
[23:28] <tripelb> this theme has 3 black dots for box--X -- I want the normal or at least different colored dots. Help please. and they are --boxX in that order
[23:28] <NaOH> Polah: that's what i thought. thanks
[23:28] <wildbat> krazykrivda: feel free to ask in channel when you back then
[23:29] <goer> With giver I cannot transfer 4.3Gb video file. Does giver hv size limits then?
[23:30] <goer> Anyone using giver?
[23:31] <anygivenname> anyone can help with fail2ban ?
[23:31] <szal> !anyone | goer, anygivenname
[23:32] <goer> ? Ok, Does giver hv file size transfer limits?
[23:33] <th0r> goer: are you sure the destination drives support large files?
[23:33] <ghostnik11> for some reason when i run update-grub it doesn't find my fedora partition, and i checked to if os-prober was there and it is, so how come it cant find my fedora partition
[23:33] <goer> I use latest  versions on other desktop and my laptop
[23:34] <szal> goer: that doesn't answer the question
[23:34] <goer> th0r: how to check if they accept large files pls?
[23:35] <th0r> goer: the most notable offender is vfat drives. I think the ext file systems are all ok...don't know about the others
[23:35] <goer> I use ext4 and reiserfs for /home
[23:35] <syn-ack> Hey guys. I'm having an issue with my wifi kill switch. I have an HP G50 with an Atheros chipset in it. One of my kids turned the wifi off with the killswitch and now I can
[23:36] <syn-ack> 't get it to reactivate. I
[23:36] <syn-ack> ack
[23:36] <syn-ack> I'm hoping someone in here could help me get this thing relit...
[23:36] <wildbat> syn-ack: try "sudo rfkill unblock all"
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> wildbat: beat me to it
[23:37] <syn-ack> wildbat, already tried that. :/ No dice.
[23:38] <syn-ack> also tried removing the hp-wmi kernel mod
[23:38] <syn-ack> no dice either
[23:38] <goer> th0r: How to check if I can tarnsfer large files pls?
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> syn-ack: if you run:  sudo lshw -C network    you will see the module used, is that the hp-wmi   module?
[23:39] <Northernen> Where are codecs installed?
[23:39] <th0r> goer: I would just determine what the filesystem at the end is, and google to make sure there is no file size limit
[23:39] <goer> ok
[23:40] <robin0800> syn-ack, sometimes you have to hold the button down for a long time to get it to activate
[23:40] <amalgameate> hi, i can no longer log into ubuntu becuase i ran out of disk space.  i reach the login screen, but when i authenticate it goes to a black screen then shoots me back to the login screen.  is there a way to login to my disk to make space manually?
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> Northernen: I'd guess at /usr/lib
[23:40] <MACscr> can someone give me the output of: id theirusername? I need to see what groups are needed by a regular ubuntu user
[23:40] <vlad> Hi all. I'm trying connect to my server with Remmina and identity file. After double click on server Remmina says "SSH public key authentication failed: Public key file doesn't exist". Why? Identity file is not public key. What public key wants Remmina?
[23:41] <syn-ack> ActionParsnip, it's show ath5k but even removing that doesn't work
[23:41] <MACscr> i got my sudo access back, but i cant do somethings like format a usb thumbdrive
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> amalgameate: boot to root recovery mode and remove old kernels and/or libreoffice
[23:41] <syn-ack> robin0800, lemme try that, as well
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> syn-ack: you will need to reload it after you remove it ;)
[23:41] <syn-ack> ActionParsnip, duh. :P
[23:44] <MACscr> Flannel: i couldnt use useradd because the user already existed. At least thats the error i got
[23:44] <Flannel> MACscr: useradd username groupname adds (already existing) username to group groupname
[23:44] <Flannel> "useradd username groupname" adds (already existing) username to group groupname
[23:44] <MACscr> ah, ok
[23:44] <MACscr> i was using the -G flag
[23:45] <MACscr> that was mentioned in a tutorial
[23:45] <Flannel> MACscr: What you did was use usermod -G but you forgot the -a
[23:45] <Flannel> So you replaced your secondary groups, instead of adding to them.
[23:45] <fowl> where does one configure notifications for gnome
[23:45] <Flannel> MACscr: It's common enough that the simple "I somehow lost them" was enough to know exactly what you did :)  Which is why useradd is much easier/safer/etc
[23:46] <MACscr> Flannel: ah, that makes sense, just checked the man page
[23:46] <MACscr> Flannel: any idea what i need to do to fully recover from that? as mentioned, i cant for some reason format a disk when trying to use disk creator
[23:46] <MACscr> but i can run apt-get update using sudo
[23:46] <MACscr> so its at least not complaining about not having sudo access anymore
[23:47] <Flannel> MACscr: You need to add your user to the admin group, and then all the other user groups normally given to users.  If you have any other regular users on the system, you can get them there.  On 8.04, the user groups were this: adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip www-data video plugdev fuse lpadmin sambashare
[23:48] <Flannel> MACscr: er, sorry, www-data isn't default, and I don't even have samba on this machine, I have no idea why sambashare has a group!
[23:49] <MACscr> when i run: 'sudo useradd macscr admin', its giving me the help menu like i did it wrong
[23:49] <amalgameate> ActionParsnip: hi, so when itry to remove the old linux kernels i'm getting "unable to fill /var/lib/dpkg/updates/tmp.i with padding: No space lft on device"
[23:49] <momslinux> can someone help me i want to do a fresh install and preserve home directories, how do i do this?
[23:50] <Flannel> MACscr: one group at a time
[23:50] <Flannel> Oh wait
[23:50] <Flannel> MACscr: adduser, not useradd.
[23:50] <astraljava> Flannel: It's pretty confusing, why must there be so many tools that achieve the same thing?
[23:50] <Flannel> I got it right earlier, but wrong a minute ago
[23:51] <Flannel> astraljava: useradd/usermod/userdel are low level, adduser is higher level
[23:51] <astraljava> Flannel: Right, should have figured. Thanks!
[23:52] <amalgameate> ActionParsnip: ah ok got it, nvm thank you!
[23:55] <MACscr> ok, last question for a few minutes. If i bootup my system with a liveusb without persistent storage (im using a 1gb usb drive and its not giving me a persistent option), but anyway, for testing purposes, i should still be able to install things like boxee, etc. Just nothing will be retained. Right?
[23:58] <yeats> MACscr: right, as long as you have available memory
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> amalgameate: sweet, that's all we need :)
[23:58] <dimm0k> anyone know how to get pm-utils to set this to true?  Running hook /usr/lib64/pm-utils/power.d/disable_wol false:
[23:58] <dimm0k> or any of the other hooks for that matter?  everything gets passed false, but i want some to be true
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> momslinux: backup before, if you use a separate partition for /home then simply don't mark it for formatting but tell the installer to use the partition for /home