| janimo | GrueMaster, ok, wifi works for me too now on panda/headless. network-manager was interfering with ifup, that's why it was behaving erratically | 07:30 |
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| siji | persia, hi | 10:52 |
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| siji | Hi All | 11:09 |
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| siji | t | 12:24 |
| siji | persia, | 13:11 |
| siji | u there? | 13:12 |
| siji | friends, am trying to make, autostart fro xbmc with ubuntu LXDE | 13:13 |
| siji | And it's starts working but keyboard and mouse is not working | 13:13 |
| siji | i have added xbmc entry at /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart | 13:14 |
| siji | So any idea why the mouse and keyboard is not working ? | 13:14 |
| rOxx | Hello, i have installed the natty image on my sd card and now i want to build a new kernel. i found the linux-headers in the folder /usr/src, but i need the linux-source too ? is this right ? someone can help me ? it is the first time that i build a kernel | 13:54 |
| siji | lot of things are missing ... | 13:58 |
| siji | you can build kernel from your host pc | 13:59 |
| siji | r0xx, which processor /board you are using ? | 14:01 |
| siji | why you want to build the kernel from source ? | 14:01 |
| rOxx | yes this is my idear, i want to download the files to my beagle, after that copy the files to my host pc, cross compile a new kernel and copy the uImage to the SD-Card. | 14:02 |
| rOxx | im using the beagleboard xm (rev. A) | 14:02 |
| rOxx | i want to build a new kernel, because i want to deactivate the kernel pinmux, i made the pin changes in the bootloader | 14:03 |
| ogra_ | ugh | 14:04 |
| ogra_ | in any case if you want to recompile the omap3 kernel, just do: apt-get source linux; sudo apt-get build-dep linux | 14:05 |
| ogra_ | omap3 is built from the linux package | 14:06 |
| rOxx | ogra: do you mean "sudo apt-get install linux-source" to get the sources ? | 14:08 |
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| rOxx | or can i build a new kernel with the "linux-headers-2.6.38-8-omap" and "linux-headers-2.6.38-8" ? | 14:15 |
| rOxx | i want to use the old config file to build the kernel and only change the OMAP multiplexing support there, because i made the pinmux changes in the bootloader | 14:24 |
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| rOxx | someone can help me with compiling a kernel for the beagleboard xm (rev.A) ? i only want to deactivate the OMAP multiplexing support, because i made this changes in the boot loader | 14:45 |
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| mahmoh | GrueMaster: bug 656410, if it's timer and not USB related I'm tending to think it's critical - needs a major push from where it is, what do you think? | 15:32 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 656410 in launchpad "connection not closed with time-out" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/656410 | 15:32 |
| GrueMaster | mahmoh: What??? That is a firefox/launchpad bug. | 15:36 |
| mahmoh | GrueMaster: let's try again ;) bug 709245 | 15:37 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 709245 in linux-ti-omap4 "panda: USB disk IO slow" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709245 | 15:37 |
| GrueMaster | mahmoh: By the nature of Arm, we cannot mark them as critical (yet). https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance "Critical: A bug which has a severe impact on a large portion of Ubuntu users." | 15:40 |
| mahmoh | GrueMaster: oh, good point | 15:41 |
| ogra_ | should be high (as it is) | 15:41 |
| mahmoh | GrueMaster: so is there a way to get more focus on this? I can't tell if it's actively being worked or not | 15:42 |
| ogra_ | critical would be rather arch independent ... i.e. "udev formats your / if it finds it ..." | 15:42 |
| GrueMaster | Yea, something like that may be bad. | 15:43 |
| ogra_ | its actively being researched since three releases | 15:43 |
| ogra_ | so dont expect quick solutions here ... it has been filed late though | 15:43 |
| GrueMaster | mahmoh: It may not be getting that much attention here, but It is getting a large amount of eyes looking at the issues from other groups (Android, Fedora, #pandaboard, etc). | 15:44 |
| GrueMaster | It appears to be more widespread than just Ubuntu on Omap4. | 15:45 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 15:45 |
| mahmoh | well, I'm guessing it's going to something that's going to hurt us soon if we don't find a fix, just want to ensure it has the right eyes on it like davidm or NCommander's | 15:45 |
| GrueMaster | mahmoh: It has top engineers at TI looking at it. And yes, davidm & NCommander are both monitoring it as well (but since neither are kernel developers...) | 15:47 |
| ogra_ | mahmoh, its a longstanding problem with the panda, dont worry | 15:48 |
| GrueMaster | The bug is filed. At this point, the best you and I can do is monitor the bug for additional changes, and document any new findings we may come across. | 15:48 |
| davidm | mahmoh, Andy Green from Linaro TI Landing team is well aware and we are escalating to TI this week | 15:48 |
| mahmoh | it's not just the panda and not just USB | 15:48 |
| davidm | But it is beginning to look like a hardware issue :-/ | 15:49 |
| davidm | it | 15:49 |
| mahmoh | davidm: thx | 15:49 |
| davidm | is is a chip used on Pandaboards and Beagleboards | 15:49 |
| ogra_ | mahmoh, what else is "it" beyond panda ? | 15:50 |
| ogra_ | did you see it on non-TI hardware ? | 15:50 |
| mahmoh | ^^^ | 15:50 |
| GrueMaster | ogra_: I have seen others mention the issue on the nVidia Tegra2 Dev platform. | 15:51 |
| GrueMaster | Not confirmed, but mentioned. | 15:52 |
| mahmoh | not yet but it's definitely omap, originally thought only to be USB, not more, concerned it may be ARM/Kernel related but have no idea | 15:52 |
| GrueMaster | It is believed to be an issue with the SMC USB hub. | 15:52 |
| ogra_ | intresting | 15:52 |
| ogra_ | i cant see any issues with the ac100 (that doesnt say anything about other tegras with other peripherials indeed) | 15:53 |
| lilstevie | I have good speed USB on the transformer | 15:53 |
| mahmoh | GrueMaster: does anyone here have this tegra dev platform to verify? | 15:53 |
| mahmoh | does anyone here have this tegra dev platform to verify? | 15:54 |
| jburkholder | janimo: thanks | 15:54 |
| GrueMaster | Not me. I have a different tegra dev board but haven't set it up for testing. | 15:54 |
| GrueMaster | But I doubt mine has this issue. | 15:54 |
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| mahmoh | GrueMaster: it might be interesting to double check if you had time, I don't think you do | 16:14 |
| GrueMaster | I don't this week. Release testing and last minute push to finish work items for A3. | 16:15 |
| ogra_ | well, who cares about dev boards anyway, as long as the production devices dont expose the issue ;) | 16:15 |
| ogra_ | (which they apparently dont, at least for two devices) | 16:15 |
| GrueMaster | ogra_: Not a whole lot of production systems with the necessary hardware to test. | 16:15 |
| ogra_ | there are tens of tegra based production devices out there ;( | 16:16 |
| ogra_ | err | 16:16 |
| ogra_ | ;) | 16:16 |
| GrueMaster | And how many of those have both USB & ethernet on the same hub device? | 16:16 |
| ogra_ | and for two we have verified it doesnt occur | 16:17 |
| ogra_ | ?? | 16:17 |
| ogra_ | did you read the recent comments on the bug ? | 16:17 |
| ogra_ | its very likely its not usb related at all | 16:17 |
| lilstevie | and tbh dev devices are not as important as making sure that consumer devices are fine | 16:18 |
| ogra_ | since also Sd cards are significantly slower than on other systems | 16:18 |
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| ogra_ | i would love to get a rooted playbook in my hands to actually test omap4 on a production device with our images :O | 16:19 |
| lilstevie | running from sd was hell slow on my class 2 card fir the transformer | 16:19 |
| ogra_ | but you dont get rooted playbooks anywhere | 16:19 |
| lilstevie | ogra_: do playbooks even have kernel source | 16:20 |
| ogra_ | lilstevie, but your class2 SD wont be faster on other HW either ;) | 16:20 |
| lilstevie | ogra_: very true | 16:20 |
| ogra_ | playbooks are omap4, they shouldnt be to far from the panda | 16:20 |
| lilstevie | ah | 16:20 |
| ogra_ | surely they arent identical | 16:20 |
| lilstevie | would be interesting on loading your own kernel | 16:21 |
| ogra_ | but i bet you could boot to a graphics-less system with the omap4 kernel | 16:21 |
| lilstevie | wonder how the QNX kernel loads | 16:21 |
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| rOxx | someone can help me with cross compiling a kernel for the beagleboard xm (rev.A) ? i only want to disablethe OMAP multiplexing support, because i made this changes in the boot loader | 17:22 |
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