jmburgessis bughelper no longer in the repository?00:20
jmburgessit seems lit it isn't00:26
geofftHm. Can I not reopen a Fix Released bug? Should I just file a new one?03:03
evfoolhggdh, mvo: about bug 199669 - it's triaged for both update-manager and update-notifier in Ubuntu, could you explain what needs to be done in update-manager?10:09
ubot4Launchpad bug 199669 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) (and 3 other projects) "Tray notification doesn't disappear when the Update Manager starts (heat: 2)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19966910:09
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mvoevfool: its only a issue for poeple using the non auto-open mode (which is not the default on ubuntu anymore)10:17
evfoolmvo: but what needs to be done in u-m to fix it? isn't it only an update-notifier bug?10:21
mvoevfool: u-m could send a dbus signal, but I guess all the u-n should do is what the bus and if u-m appears just hide, so you are right, nothing for update-manager to do here and its fine to close the task10:23
evfoolmvo: thanks, setting it to invalid then10:24
mvothanks! please include the note about the bus watching that u-n needs to do10:25
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vegerhallo, anyone around to answer a couple of questions?13:50
hggdhveger: there is always someone around; it is better to just ask the questions, and whoever knows the answer will (eventually) answer them14:19
vegertried that yesterday (and fialed) ;)14:21
vegerI found an upstream report for bug 818775, stating that it has a  wishlist importance. So could someone set the LP report to Wishlist importance as well?14:22
ubot4Launchpad bug 818775 in kdeutils (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Ark: adding a file to a folder get it in the 'root' of the archive (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81877514:22
vegerFurthermore, I suppose I should set the status of the bug report to Triaged?14:23
kamusinveger, I have already done this for you ;)14:34
vegeras I'd like to learn: I had the correct ideas for setting it to wishlist due to the wishlist status of the upstream report?14:35
paultagveger: not in all cases, there might be some cases where something we see as critical ( a use case we have ), that upstream does not care about14:36
paultagveger: so if upstream only cares about, say, fedora, and we are having a critical issue because it interfaces with package X we use by default in Ubuntu that say fedora does not have, we might consider it critical, but upstream might consider it minor / wishlist14:37
vegerSo for such cases I'd need info on 'us'? :)14:37
paultagveger: that case is very very rare :)14:37
paultagveger: :)14:37
vegerthanks for helping14:38
paultagsure sure14:38
yofelI'm closing this. We (the kubuntu team) don't track any upstream issues that aren't at least High/Critical on launchpad. We only end up with bug zombies for long fixed bugs14:39
paultagyofel: someone should write an lplib script to clear out upstream fixed bugs14:40
paultagyofel: it could be useful if someone wants to help and they cherry pick some low hanging fruit14:40
paultagnot telling you that policy's out of line, I agree that happens, but I'm just shooting up an idea14:41
vegeroh... so after sending a report upstream it can be closed...? (assuming it is a low importance bug)14:41
paultagveger: no, so after upstream closes, it will close the local bug too with a message14:41
yofelthe script would be an idea, the cherry picking not really since we don't add patches unless it's really necessary14:41
paultagveger: yeah but even something like me subscribing to a bug14:41
yofeland then the bug would be at least High anyway14:42
paultagveger: it's be nice to get followup :)14:42
paultagnot nitpicking or anything14:42
yofelveger: that's for kde packages, usually triaged is right14:42
vegeryofel: well I kind of try to help out with kde packages... but I'll try to rember it is for kde only :)14:43
yofelfeel free to poke in #kubuntu-devel for details, haven't triaged much myself lately :/14:43
vegerAs I mentions I have multiple questions: bug 577560 is fixed upstream with a patch. I have updated the package and tried it. It works and solves the problem. Should I set the status to 'fix committed'? And should I do anything else to make sure the patch ends up in the kubuntu repositories?14:45
ubot4Launchpad bug 577560 in plasma-widget-networkmanagement (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "can't connect to WPA2 Entreprise using PEAP and MSCHAPv2 (affects: 7) (heat: 40)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57756014:45
yofelveger: that bug should be fix released, as the snapshot in oneiric (from the nm09 branch) was taken after the fix was committed.14:51
yofelas for natty and earlier the fix needs to follow the SRU procedure14:52
vegerI try to find the nm09 branch, is it this onehttps://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/oneiric/plasma-widget-networkmanagement/oneiric ?14:55
vegerI'll read up on the SRU procedures now...14:56
yofelveger: a) the nm09 branch won't work in Natty b) the SRU procedure requires minimal patches that fix the issue, so you can't just SRU a new snapshot14:59
vegeryes, I read about the requirements for a SRU15:02
vegerI'll set the bug to fix released and leave it (no updates for natty... :( ;) )15:03
yofelI looked at that bug a few days ago actually, less than trivial SRU since the upstream patch doesn't apply on the natty package15:03
vegerI tried yes, and I ended up with grabbing a snapshot15:04
vegerQuite a lot of (academic) users have problems due to this bug15:05
vegerfor my personal understanding, were can I find the nm09 branch? So I can find it a next time in order to see whether a fix is provided or not?15:06
yofelveger: 'git clone git://anongit.kde.org/networkmanagement' -> 'git checkout nm09' or look at http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=networkmanagement.git&a=shortlog&h=refs/heads/nm0915:09
yofelveger: for the upstream one, launchpad will have whatever we have in the archive15:12
vegeryofel: thanks for the info!15:15
vegerhttp://quickgit.kde.org/ will become my friend :)15:16
vegerThere are quite some related reports (mostly for different encryption types), but all due to the same problem supposedly. bug 507835 is such an example, but here there is a user asking whether it is possible to backport the change for natty. Should I tell him 'no'?15:23
ubot4Launchpad bug 507835 in plasma-widget-networkmanagement (Ubuntu) "Can't connect to WPA enterprise (LEAP) (affects: 3) (heat: 21)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50783515:23
vegerI have replied on the mentioned bug, I think it is a good reply... :)15:39
vegerin bug 660970, it is mentioned that the problem is fixed in 'the current release', so it is unknown how it was fixed (for me). As I rembember the bug should be closed as Invalid, right?15:41
ubot4Launchpad bug 660970 in evolution (Ubuntu) "Mark messages as read in current folder and subfolders doesn't work (affects: 2) (heat: 17)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66097015:41
yofelveger: why no? it's just that nobody did it yet15:43
vegeryofel: Just to be sure I rembered correctly...15:46
vegerand my last question (for now), bug 698035 tells that the --help output is incomeplete. I think it is just being short and that the use should read the manual pages for the complete help. How should I handle this?15:49
ubot4Launchpad bug 698035 in evolution (Ubuntu) "evolution --help talks unhelpfully about "the specified component" (affects: 1) (heat: 20)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69803515:49
jmburgessIs the bughelper package no longer in natty?16:51
* yofel thinks we junked that a long time ago16:53
yofelwhat do you want to use it for?16:53
jmburgessOh I just saw it was good for finding duplicates and such16:54
jmburgessAnd then doing bug patterns16:54
micahgjmburgess: take a look at bughugger16:55
yofelwell, the LP ui is usable these days, if you need a more usable search go to google and use 'site:bugs.launchpad.net <searchterm>'16:55
RedSingularityjibel: any idea what this is?  :  /tmp/update-manager-XRc3zk/DistUpgradeCache.py:729: DeprecationWarning: Attribute 'Essential' of the 'apt_pkg.Package' object is deprecated, use 'essential' instead.16:55
jmburgessCan launchpad search attachments as well?16:56
jibelRedSingularity, that's a deprecation warning :)16:56
RedSingularityjibel: I have seen that a few times.  What does it mean exactly?16:56
jibelRedSingularity, it means that the code must be updated to the latest api. Is that on oneiric, it changed a while ago IIRC.17:00
RedSingularityjibel: looks like an upgrade from natty to oneiric.  That code is at the bottom of the apt.log17:01
RedSingularityjibel: I was trying to track down the culprit package.  Have a look at the log.  bug 79851217:06
ubot4Launchpad bug 798512 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Upgrading Kubuntu to version 11.04 error at the second process (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79851217:06
RedSingularityjibel: I had thought python-kde4 may have been it but that package seems fine....17:10
jmburgesBug 565543 can be marked as triaged I think. Importance medium17:24
ubot4Launchpad bug 565543 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Alps touchpad detected as ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse(in VAIO E series) after the kernel upgrade (affects: 68) (dups: 1) (heat: 404)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56554317:24
kamusineeebotu is gone hggdh :(20:25
hggdhkamusin: checking, thanks20:25
kamusinyou are welcome ;)20:26
hggdhkamusin: recovered, thanks for the heads up20:28
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