| jmburgess | is bughelper no longer in the repository? | 00:20 |
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| jmburgess | it seems lit it isn't | 00:26 |
| geofft | Hm. Can I not reopen a Fix Released bug? Should I just file a new one? | 03:03 |
| evfool | hggdh, mvo: about bug 199669 - it's triaged for both update-manager and update-notifier in Ubuntu, could you explain what needs to be done in update-manager? | 10:09 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 199669 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) (and 3 other projects) "Tray notification doesn't disappear when the Update Manager starts (heat: 2)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199669 | 10:09 |
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| mvo | evfool: its only a issue for poeple using the non auto-open mode (which is not the default on ubuntu anymore) | 10:17 |
| evfool | mvo: but what needs to be done in u-m to fix it? isn't it only an update-notifier bug? | 10:21 |
| mvo | evfool: u-m could send a dbus signal, but I guess all the u-n should do is what the bus and if u-m appears just hide, so you are right, nothing for update-manager to do here and its fine to close the task | 10:23 |
| evfool | mvo: thanks, setting it to invalid then | 10:24 |
| mvo | thanks! please include the note about the bus watching that u-n needs to do | 10:25 |
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| veger | hallo, anyone around to answer a couple of questions? | 13:50 |
| hggdh | veger: there is always someone around; it is better to just ask the questions, and whoever knows the answer will (eventually) answer them | 14:19 |
| veger | tried that yesterday (and fialed) ;) | 14:21 |
| veger | *failed | 14:21 |
| veger | I found an upstream report for bug 818775, stating that it has a wishlist importance. So could someone set the LP report to Wishlist importance as well? | 14:22 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 818775 in kdeutils (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Ark: adding a file to a folder get it in the 'root' of the archive (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/818775 | 14:22 |
| veger | Furthermore, I suppose I should set the status of the bug report to Triaged? | 14:23 |
| kamusin | veger, I have already done this for you ;) | 14:34 |
| veger | thanks | 14:34 |
| veger | as I'd like to learn: I had the correct ideas for setting it to wishlist due to the wishlist status of the upstream report? | 14:35 |
| paultag | veger: not in all cases, there might be some cases where something we see as critical ( a use case we have ), that upstream does not care about | 14:36 |
| paultag | veger: so if upstream only cares about, say, fedora, and we are having a critical issue because it interfaces with package X we use by default in Ubuntu that say fedora does not have, we might consider it critical, but upstream might consider it minor / wishlist | 14:37 |
| veger | So for such cases I'd need info on 'us'? :) | 14:37 |
| paultag | veger: that case is very very rare :) | 14:37 |
| paultag | veger: :) | 14:37 |
| veger | thanks for helping | 14:38 |
| paultag | sure sure | 14:38 |
| yofel | hm... | 14:38 |
| yofel | I'm closing this. We (the kubuntu team) don't track any upstream issues that aren't at least High/Critical on launchpad. We only end up with bug zombies for long fixed bugs | 14:39 |
| paultag | yofel: someone should write an lplib script to clear out upstream fixed bugs | 14:40 |
| paultag | yofel: it could be useful if someone wants to help and they cherry pick some low hanging fruit | 14:40 |
| paultag | not telling you that policy's out of line, I agree that happens, but I'm just shooting up an idea | 14:41 |
| veger | oh... so after sending a report upstream it can be closed...? (assuming it is a low importance bug) | 14:41 |
| paultag | veger: no, so after upstream closes, it will close the local bug too with a message | 14:41 |
| yofel | the script would be an idea, the cherry picking not really since we don't add patches unless it's really necessary | 14:41 |
| paultag | veger: yeah but even something like me subscribing to a bug | 14:41 |
| yofel | and then the bug would be at least High anyway | 14:42 |
| paultag | veger: it's be nice to get followup :) | 14:42 |
| paultag | not nitpicking or anything | 14:42 |
| yofel | veger: that's for kde packages, usually triaged is right | 14:42 |
| veger | yofel: well I kind of try to help out with kde packages... but I'll try to rember it is for kde only :) | 14:43 |
| yofel | feel free to poke in #kubuntu-devel for details, haven't triaged much myself lately :/ | 14:43 |
| veger | As I mentions I have multiple questions: bug 577560 is fixed upstream with a patch. I have updated the package and tried it. It works and solves the problem. Should I set the status to 'fix committed'? And should I do anything else to make sure the patch ends up in the kubuntu repositories? | 14:45 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 577560 in plasma-widget-networkmanagement (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "can't connect to WPA2 Entreprise using PEAP and MSCHAPv2 (affects: 7) (heat: 40)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/577560 | 14:45 |
| yofel | veger: that bug should be fix released, as the snapshot in oneiric (from the nm09 branch) was taken after the fix was committed. | 14:51 |
| yofel | as for natty and earlier the fix needs to follow the SRU procedure | 14:52 |
| veger | I try to find the nm09 branch, is it this onehttps://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/oneiric/plasma-widget-networkmanagement/oneiric ? | 14:55 |
| veger | I'll read up on the SRU procedures now... | 14:56 |
| yofel | veger: a) the nm09 branch won't work in Natty b) the SRU procedure requires minimal patches that fix the issue, so you can't just SRU a new snapshot | 14:59 |
| veger | yes, I read about the requirements for a SRU | 15:02 |
| veger | I'll set the bug to fix released and leave it (no updates for natty... :( ;) ) | 15:03 |
| yofel | I looked at that bug a few days ago actually, less than trivial SRU since the upstream patch doesn't apply on the natty package | 15:03 |
| veger | I tried yes, and I ended up with grabbing a snapshot | 15:04 |
| veger | Quite a lot of (academic) users have problems due to this bug | 15:05 |
| veger | for my personal understanding, were can I find the nm09 branch? So I can find it a next time in order to see whether a fix is provided or not? | 15:06 |
| yofel | veger: 'git clone git://anongit.kde.org/networkmanagement' -> 'git checkout nm09' or look at http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=networkmanagement.git&a=shortlog&h=refs/heads/nm09 | 15:09 |
| yofel | veger: for the upstream one, launchpad will have whatever we have in the archive | 15:12 |
| veger | yofel: thanks for the info! | 15:15 |
| veger | http://quickgit.kde.org/ will become my friend :) | 15:16 |
| veger | There are quite some related reports (mostly for different encryption types), but all due to the same problem supposedly. bug 507835 is such an example, but here there is a user asking whether it is possible to backport the change for natty. Should I tell him 'no'? | 15:23 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 507835 in plasma-widget-networkmanagement (Ubuntu) "Can't connect to WPA enterprise (LEAP) (affects: 3) (heat: 21)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/507835 | 15:23 |
| veger | I have replied on the mentioned bug, I think it is a good reply... :) | 15:39 |
| veger | in bug 660970, it is mentioned that the problem is fixed in 'the current release', so it is unknown how it was fixed (for me). As I rembember the bug should be closed as Invalid, right? | 15:41 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 660970 in evolution (Ubuntu) "Mark messages as read in current folder and subfolders doesn't work (affects: 2) (heat: 17)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/660970 | 15:41 |
| yofel | veger: why no? it's just that nobody did it yet | 15:43 |
| veger | yofel: Just to be sure I rembered correctly... | 15:46 |
| veger | and my last question (for now), bug 698035 tells that the --help output is incomeplete. I think it is just being short and that the use should read the manual pages for the complete help. How should I handle this? | 15:49 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 698035 in evolution (Ubuntu) "evolution --help talks unhelpfully about "the specified component" (affects: 1) (heat: 20)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/698035 | 15:49 |
| jmburgess | Is the bughelper package no longer in natty? | 16:51 |
| * yofel thinks we junked that a long time ago | 16:53 | |
| yofel | what do you want to use it for? | 16:53 |
| jmburgess | Oh I just saw it was good for finding duplicates and such | 16:54 |
| jmburgess | And then doing bug patterns | 16:54 |
| micahg | jmburgess: take a look at bughugger | 16:55 |
| yofel | well, the LP ui is usable these days, if you need a more usable search go to google and use 'site:bugs.launchpad.net <searchterm>' | 16:55 |
| RedSingularity | jibel: any idea what this is? : /tmp/update-manager-XRc3zk/DistUpgradeCache.py:729: DeprecationWarning: Attribute 'Essential' of the 'apt_pkg.Package' object is deprecated, use 'essential' instead. | 16:55 |
| jmburgess | Can launchpad search attachments as well? | 16:56 |
| jibel | RedSingularity, that's a deprecation warning :) | 16:56 |
| RedSingularity | jibel: I have seen that a few times. What does it mean exactly? | 16:56 |
| jibel | RedSingularity, it means that the code must be updated to the latest api. Is that on oneiric, it changed a while ago IIRC. | 17:00 |
| RedSingularity | jibel: looks like an upgrade from natty to oneiric. That code is at the bottom of the apt.log | 17:01 |
| RedSingularity | jibel: I was trying to track down the culprit package. Have a look at the log. bug 798512 | 17:06 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 798512 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Upgrading Kubuntu to version 11.04 error at the second process (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/798512 | 17:06 |
| RedSingularity | jibel: I had thought python-kde4 may have been it but that package seems fine.... | 17:10 |
| jmburges | Bug 565543 can be marked as triaged I think. Importance medium | 17:24 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 565543 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Alps touchpad detected as ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse(in VAIO E series) after the kernel upgrade (affects: 68) (dups: 1) (heat: 404)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/565543 | 17:24 |
| kamusin | eeebotu is gone hggdh :( | 20:25 |
| hggdh | kamusin: checking, thanks | 20:25 |
| kamusin | you are welcome ;) | 20:26 |
| hggdh | kamusin: recovered, thanks for the heads up | 20:28 |
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