[01:05] mhall119: cjohnston: How long does it take for a new locoteam to get on loco.ubuntu.com ? [01:06] does the manage script run on a cron? [01:16] paultag: yes [01:17] paultag: looks like it runs ever 20 minutes [01:38] mhall119: Ubuntu oregon was asking, they don't seem to be comming up :) [01:41] when were they added [01:42] cjohnston: yesterday [01:42] morning [01:42] a bit longer then 20 minutes [01:43] wonder if the script is failing [01:43] (I mean in a significany way, it's clearly already failing) [01:46] mhall119: / [01:46] ? [01:46] i know cranberry has been having issues [01:46] so maybe thats part of it [01:46] figured I'd ought to let ya'll know [01:57] I guess dominican republic too === ejat- is now known as ejat === ejat- is now known as ejat [06:38] good morning all [06:40] o/ [06:40] Morning! [07:37] morning [08:07] Morning all [08:09] you know, half this channels traffic is "morning" :D [08:09] lol :) [08:10] hehe [08:10] also hugs [08:10] but dholbach is on vacation :P [08:11] hehe :) [08:13] the rest is comments from jono, jcastro, kim0, and dholbach during their call :P [08:18] nigelb: nah, not "during", but organising said call [08:19] nigelb: and you realised you just pinged all those people... (although i do give you that 2 arent in the channel) [08:25] jussi: I do realize that :P [09:35] morning o/ [09:39] Daviey: o/ [11:09] off irc for nearly 4 days come back to some weird pings, as loco council cz laura and clearly my nick are all highlighted. [11:10] didn't know you watched for laura. [11:10] I often use it when I don't want to ping you, but refer to you. [11:10] nigelb: yup I don't "watch" for it, it's my name on other channels [11:10] czajkowski: I hope they were at least amusing :) [11:10] probably why it is on hilight :) [11:10] some come back to all weird pings [11:11] I get a lot of pings from people talking about chickens [11:11] or messages when you see this do this :) [11:11] lol [11:11] #ubuntu-offtopic talks about chickens a *lot* [11:11] I get some weird pings from people who use the word 'penny' [11:12] AlanBell: I shall henceforth use "Gallus gallus" instead of chicken :P [11:12] mainly in an "I am eating a yummy chicken sandwich" context [11:12] food :( [11:12] oops [11:12] s'ok [11:12] * nigelb kicks AlanBell :P [11:12] not starving yet [11:12] that'll be in another hour or 2 [11:13] AlanBell: did you get a chance to play with etherpad lite? [11:13] not really, it looked quite cool [11:14] If node.js can scale to UDS scale, then I'd prefer that instead of etherpad. [11:14] Its probably less memory. [11:14] I wonder if it works on popey's iPad. [11:14] well there is an etherpad instance that is already running, I don't think that is going to change in the short term [11:15] hm [11:20] is there some better integration that can be done with node.js around authentication/security? [11:21] working on iOS/Android would be a benefit certainly [11:21] I think node.js might be easier to hack on. At elast for me. [11:21] I'll poke. [11:22] there is an openid implementation. [11:29] AlanBell: We are currently looking at etherpad lite btw.. Haven't had a chance to compare db schema's to see if it can drop in tho [11:30] 12:29 -!- AlanBell [~alan@ubuntu/member/alanbell] has quit [OFFENDED] [11:30] Daviey: lol [11:30] Daviey: Need help? :) [11:30] I have etherpad running on my box [11:30] nigelb: crack on :) [11:30] should be trivial to install etherpad-life, and try with the old schema [11:30] Daviey: I suppose memory saved must be a good factory? ;) [11:30] nigelb: great! [11:31] *factor [11:31] nigelb: the memory saving is *significant* [11:31] i tried it in ec2 the other day [11:31] oooh, neat! [11:32] I suppose jussi can arrange for a few 100 people with nothing better to do to test :P [11:32] If it is drop-in, i'll swap out pad.daviey.com to be it. [11:32] \o/ [11:32] Although, the lack of private pad support is a tad upsetting. [11:32] well, we could do both. one for private and one for public \/me runs [11:33] nigelb: gimmie a url and I can test it on ipad :D [11:37] popey: sec [11:37] * nigelb notes bug 807784 meanwhile [11:37] Launchpad bug 807784 in principia "Formula needed: etherpad-lite" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/807784 [11:38] nigelb: it was that we tested in ec2 :) [11:38] Daviey: ah! [11:39] Daviey: that makes it quite easy to scale etherpad lite ;) [11:42] popey: https://pad.pitapoison.de/pad/p/popey [11:44] nigelb: "Cannot GET /pad/p/popey" [11:44] oh, https [11:44] sorry [11:44] yeah [11:45] wait, who's foobar? [11:46] me [11:46] nigelb: Please add openid support, kkthnx [11:46] ah [11:47] Daviey: I will take payment in cash, cheque, beer, vodka :P [11:48] nigelb: oh good.. i hope you find that :) [11:48] haha [11:49] Interesting. CLicking History disconnects me. Anyone else can reproduce that? [11:52] popey: so beter than etherpad, yes? :P [11:52] nigelb: yes, but redirects you to the history page [11:53] ok, so the disconnect button is poping up wrong;y confusing people [12:16] nigelb: yeah, looks good [12:20] nigelb: looks like the new safari supports both java and js etherpad [12:20] which it previously didnt [12:27] popey: nice! [12:27] its not great, but better than nothing [12:28] Yeah :) [13:12] kim0: I did 1.5 formulas! [13:13] 1.5 oO ? [13:14] btw, we should get ensemble formulates to work with vagrant. that'd rock. [13:15] what exactly does ensamble do? [13:16] I was under the impression it's just nonfree puppet http://www.puppetlabs.com/ [13:16] which is a shame [13:17] wait, non-free? [13:17] what? [13:17] I assumed if it was Canonical it's nonfree [13:17] kim0: one working one, one half way working [13:17] Ye of little faith. [13:17] nigelb: hey man. Their track-record is shit [13:17] nigelb: launchpad was nonfree for years [13:18] paultag: Are you trolling? [13:18] https://ensemble.ubuntu.com/ [13:18] Daviey: well you'd hardly have to ask, the answer would be the same both ways [13:18] kim0: the Alice IRC one pulls from a bunch of CPAN so it takes like 10 minutes to deploy, the other one is summit and yeah .... I kind of bit off more than I can chew [13:18] * nigelb links to https://launchpad.net/ensemble [13:18] jcastro: It is in the queue to get sync'd to oneiric [13:18] jcastro: woohoo [13:19] Daviey: nod, when that's in I'll update it [13:19] jcastro: bug 818479 [13:19] Launchpad bug 818479 in ubuntu "Sync alice 0.19-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/818479 [13:19] right now, it's not pretty, it has to install a bunch of stuff on a new server [13:19] ooh I better sub to that. [13:19] jcastro: You could use my shiny PPA? :) [13:19] paultag: it is free software for making stuff that runs on one server use lots of servers instead :) [13:19] paultag: no idea what is non free that relates to Ensemble, and no it's not just a puppet clone [13:19] what, in the formula? Is it going to be a maintained PPA or a test ppa [13:20] kim0: mkay [13:20] AlanBell: gotcha [13:20] jcastro: just test... once it's in the archive it's deprecated. [13:20] I never cared to look into it [13:20] * popey puts paultag back in his box [13:20] Daviey: ok I'll just wait [13:20] jcastro: imaptience++ [13:20] * paultag *muffled sounds of struggle* [13:20] poor paultag [13:20] jcastro: ohai, friendo. How's the heat? [13:21] fine with the AC on. :) [13:21] :P [13:21] jcastro: do you have a beachside view? ;) [13:21] heh no [13:21] fail! [13:22] Man, I need to go out and get blackout drunk [13:23] I'm working on migrating old PL/1 code [13:23] someone shoot me [13:23] what is PL/1? [13:23] nigelb: please don't ask [13:23] nigelb: language from 1960s [13:23] yes, it came before C [13:23] lol. [13:24] FAIL. ^ [13:24] it's a step up from COBOL or Fortran [14:03] paultag, jcastro: https://twitter.com/#!/emacs/status/97159561202511873 [14:04] hah [14:16] nigelb: haha, punks [14:17] nigelb: did you see the new slogan for Syn? [14:17] "Syn, the package manager with a better F/OSS record then GNU Emacs! [14:17] " [14:17] bwahaha [14:20] nigelb: I'm thinking of using the LOL rageface for the bootup screen [14:21] nigelb: http://www.ragemaker.net/images/Laughing/LOL.png that one [14:21] haha [14:44] kim0: can you check out the long presentation today? Just a once over to make sure it makes sense would be nice. [14:49] jcastro: sure .. [14:50] With 50% more matching slides! [14:54] <3 https://twitter.com/#!/jmsgroup/status/98030723952418816 [14:55] "it's like Windows 7... except it's good" [15:01] kim0, will be two mins, grabbing headset [15:01] same here :) [15:07] kim0, damn headset issues, brb rebooting [15:08] it's usually pulse issues [15:08] pulseaudio -k [15:08] bluetooth is broken for me .. believes its disabled, while it's enabled [15:09] also scrolling 'down' over the sound indicator 'raises' volume [15:09] random bugs come to mind :) [15:10] yeah [15:10] I've been on 2d this week alot [15:10] that's a 2d only thing? thought so [15:10] Is it? dunno, 3d has been broken all last week for me [15:10] same here .. compiz segfaults [15:11] something that's also annoying, I'm not getting the battery indicator for some reason [15:12] hah weird, I get the battery one on my desktop, which has no battery [15:12] is indicator-power installed? [15:12] jcastro: yep, 0.4-0ubuntu3 [15:13] * kim0 thinks dholbach must be skiing in Norway or something :) [15:14] apologies, nearly set, kim0 [15:14] G+? [15:14] works for me [15:15] kim0, invite sent [15:32] <-- hitting up lunch [15:36] lucky lunch! [16:04] :( -- http://twitter.com/#!/paultag/status/98061319281975296 [16:04] Looks like the BOS UGJ is out of luck [16:08] paultag: why do canonical people have to be there? [16:09] popey: the plan was to use the canonical building [16:09] popey: because we have no where to go [16:09] ah [16:09] bummer [16:09] bah [16:09] with so many great univ around, absolutely no place? [16:09] when is it? [16:09] must be somewhere you can go [16:09] nigelb: all the unis are debian-biased. I wanted to have an Ubuntu Upstream Jam (UUJ), but I don't have time to plan [16:10] it's labor day weekend here in the states, very hard to find a venue for free [16:10] Yeah, i'm sure we'll find anything [16:10] but ffs, it's canonical :( [16:10] they should have our backs on this one [16:10] they are people [16:10] I understand [16:10] people have lives too [16:10] I understand [16:10] (just like geeks dont) [16:10] but to say not a single person is interested is nuts [16:10] I'll have to agree with popey. [16:10] * popey shrugs [16:10] on a group of people that work on Ubuntu for work [16:10] what kind of office is Boston? [16:11] popey: it's nice. I've only been outside it [16:11] i.e. is it a support office, engineering, admin? [16:11] popey: ubuntu OEM IIRC [16:11] OEM I think/ [16:11] gah too slow [16:11] it's so silly, [16:12] for all the shit I give canonical, I would have thought this would have been the last thing they'd do [16:12] I mostly mock software and administration, never something like this [16:13] did you send them a mail? [16:14] jcastro: yeah, MT handed it [16:14] jcastro: he mailed back saying no [16:14] no it can't be hosted there or no no one can go? [16:14] Looks like paultag got out of bed on the grumpy side this morning. [16:14] jcastro: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ma/2011-August/003687.html [16:14] popey: yeah, I did :( [16:14] my back is killing me and I got no sleep, and I need some food, and my code's breaking [16:14] ah suck. [16:15] jcastro: so BOS won't have a GJ :( [16:15] did you try the MIT media lab? [16:15] jcastro: I could mail Mako but it's way late in the game righ tnow [16:15] I had a kickass idea too [16:15] oh well. next cycle [16:16] it's like a whole month away still! [16:16] paultag: You could always go for a cafe or bookstore (not as nice as some of those other places, but they work) [16:16] paultag: You really are not winning friends with this strategy. [16:16] nhandler: yeah, we'll have to do something, but this just bugs me in a nasty way [16:17] Daviey: At this point, after 3 years with Ubuntu membership, if someone wants to think less of me because of my distaste of Canonical's practices some of the times on some of the day, fine. I don't care. [16:17] I'm here because I help, not because I need friends [16:17] paultag: keep going with that. [16:17] it's a good bonus, but it's not my intent [16:18] easy everyone, let's not get too upset [16:18] we don't want popey removing the channel [16:18] SHUT IT DOWN! [16:19] haha [16:19] or bashing Canonical too much or the canonical-employee pop might shut us down. [16:19] *popey [16:24] haha....we need t-shirts now that say "SHUT IT DOWN!" ~ popey [16:25] akgraner: you're around! [16:25] and on the back a list of everything popey shuts down :-) [16:25] maco, yep [16:25] I can type now [16:25] Glad to see you back akgraner [16:26] thanks [16:27] I don't take walking or typing for granted anymore [16:27] akgraner! [16:27] zomg! [16:28] :-P [16:28] nigelb, how does tomorrow sound for hashing out mentoring stuffs [16:28] sounds great! [16:29] I'll keep my evening free :) [16:33] nigelb, thanks [16:37] paultag: if it is any consolation the London Canonical contingent don't let us use their offices and tend not to go to LoCo events [16:38] with exceptions, the jointly hosted Ubuntu in Business event did attract a few [16:40] barry's the only dc-area canonical employee i've met [16:40] there's apparently 3 or 4 of em [16:41] AlanBell: I'd argue that at least the last two release parties have had a higher concentration of Canonical employees [16:41] yes, release parties, but those are not loco events I am told [16:42] interesting.. who told you that?! [16:42] well given they are generally organised by canonical, that makes sense [16:45] AlanBell: it's fine, I'm past caring [16:47] Daviey: I couldn't possibly say [16:49] I can kinda understand people not wanting to come in on the weekend. [16:52] If I wasn't using Ubuntu or an over zealot (at times) community member I would be pissed if pete wanted to work on Ubuntu on the weekend instead of hanging out with me and the kids... [16:52] not everyone's married with kids [16:53] and apparently, no one botherd to ask around, from what mike sent back [16:53] I know that...:-) but was just giving my point of view on it [16:53] and some people *are* [16:53] some family friendly kids events are put on at weekends [16:53] AlanBell: yes, but we need *one* person to sit and make sure we don't steal stuff, really [16:53] but it's fine, I don't care [16:54] I'm dropping this [16:54] it's clear we can't do it, so to struggle is silly [16:54] :-( [16:54] * vish tickles paultag :) [16:54] vish: :) [16:54] paultag, you know we all <3 you anyway! [16:55] akgraner: aww, gee, thanks Amber :) [16:55] akgraner: I don't know, those guys in Boston are alright, but that Paul guy is a bit shady [16:55] * paultag plots in the corner [16:55] oh snap... [17:34] * czajkowski tickles paultag [17:34] czajkowski: vish beat you to that [17:34] paultag: popping in to say hi then going back to resting :) [17:35] felt like poking prodding stabbibg [17:35] you got a tickle [17:35] czajkowski: :) [17:35] czajkowski: the drugs are working, I see :) [17:35] paultag: not sure, sat woke up in no pain, yesterday evening some pain came down in the leg, and today a bit iffy [17:35] in theory am to give it 6 weeks to see if the disc will move back in. [17:35] czajkowski: you'll pull through, I know it :) [17:36] mhall119: any update on the testing ec2? [17:36] czajkowski: you got this! :) [17:36] getting 4 injections into spine. and sedated so they could move the disc in happned on friday [17:36] so fingers crossed [17:36] czajkowski: you'll pull through, you're too tough to let this beat you :) [17:36] indeed [17:36] paultag: please can we turn of mail notification on website [17:36] :/ [17:36] am having to deal with listadmin [17:37] czajkowski: let one through so I can see where it's from, then I'll take care of it [17:37] czajkowski: and you back to bed, missy [17:37] bugger [17:37] just delted it [17:37] ok [17:37] will do next time [17:37] czajkowski: I've been doing day-to-day for LC, no sweat. Take time off, you earned it :) [17:38] got a few pending things, all easy to take care of [17:38] will go through the bugs in a wee bit -n updated the ones last week with comments [17:38] czajkowski: it's OK. Get some sleep, we have 2 weeks until the next meeting [17:38] czajkowski: and I've got the short term stuff covered [17:42] ok === topyli_ is now known as topyli [18:00] jcastro, all set? [18:01] yep, just waiting for the invite [18:01] jcastro, one sec [18:02] jcastro, sent === daker is now known as daker_