[00:34] <ojwb> ibeardslee: I can assure HP that I won't
[00:34] <ojwb> but I doubt I'd buy it at all
[00:37] <ojwb> snail: xxd is good for a quick peer from the command line
[00:37] <ojwb> or if it's mostly text with a few control characters: cat -vet
[00:38] <ojwb> which still has to be my favourite option combination
[01:26] <chilts> I never knew about those, but likely 'coz I've never needed them
[01:26] <ojwb> lucky you
[01:26] <chilts> it seems -e and -t imply -v (but that would screw up your option combination)
[01:26] <chilts> :)
[01:27] <ojwb> yes, it is slightly redundant
[01:28] <chilts> but definitely easier to remember
[05:28] <hads> ibeardslee: When was your birthday?
[12:06] <DoeNietWil> Hello Ubuntu user, I came to this irc to ask you a question. We are trying to release a new version of OpenTeacher, and because it is a tool that is very language specific I was wondering if any of you would like to take a couple of minutes and translate it. It really isn't that much work but it would help us a lot. https://translations.launchpad.net/openteacher
[13:18] <DoeNietWil> if you have questions about the project or the translation please go to http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=openteacher
[19:47] <snail> mōrena koutou
[19:49] <snail> DoeNietWil: can i suggest that when you SPAM you use a url that takes us to a page that actually says what the project does? because that url certainly doesn't!
[19:49] <DoeNietWil> it wasn't meant to be spam, more like asking for help
[19:50] <DoeNietWil> but if you want openteacher.org has good information about it
[19:52] <snail> DoeNietWil: are you involved in openteacher?
[19:52] <DoeNietWil> only helping them i'm not a dev myself
[19:53] <snail> DoeNietWil: does it support TEI / freedict?
[19:54] <ibeardslee> morning
[19:54] <DoeNietWil> it could easily if you file a blueprint
[19:55] <ibeardslee> hads: Monday last week
[19:55] <DoeNietWil> the devs are very open to the needs of people
[20:18] <snail> DoeNietWil: the devs have some interesting attitudes. i wish them luck.
[20:18] <DoeNietWil> you mean they are rude?
[20:20] <snail> DoeNietWil: in the geek world rudeness is unfortunately too common to count as interesting
[20:20] <DoeNietWil> i think they really don't mean to be rude, maybe because of the language gaps there is some sort of miscommunication?
[20:22] <DoeNietWil> I've experienced that they were infact very kind people to me, i first thought it was a dictionary but they later explained why it wasn't
[20:26] <DoeNietWil> snail could you explain me what went wrong?
[20:28] <snail> DoeNietWil: I'm not going to engage in he-said she-said, since that's unlikely to be constructive; i was a little surprised that you weren't in the channel though, given that you're promoting it.
[20:30] <DoeNietWil> from what i read from the logs it seems as if you miscommunicated
[20:34] <ajmitch> morning
[20:34] <DoeNietWil> i suggest you read it slowly and try to understand what they mean, i see no way that they have an intention to be rude to you
[20:34] <DoeNietWil> snail
[20:36] <snail> DoeNietWil: they weren't rude to me...
[20:37] <DoeNietWil> then what is this attitude you speak off?
[20:43] <snail> DoeNietWil: I think my last comment says all that needs be said
[20:46] <DoeNietWil> well, you could always make a blueprint, they have multiple devs and chances are others WILL see the importance
[20:50] <ajmitch> that was interesting
[20:51]  * ibeardslee is a fraction disappointed, was wondering if I would hear snail explode from here
[20:51] <ajmitch> it seems like we only got half the conversation though
[20:53] <snail> my best guess is that a handful of school kids working on a software project. their use case appears to be 'learn the numbers from 1 to 10 in any language.'
[20:53] <snail> the appear to have no idea how dictionaries or linguistics might relate to this
[20:54] <snail> or that it might have been done before
[20:55] <snail> in their favour, they were polite and helpful and not obviously Norwegian mass-murderers
[20:55] <snail> i shouldn't have said that
[21:12] <snail> I'm hoping that fairfax's current issues aren't related to anyone we know?
[21:13] <chilts> morning
[21:14] <ibeardslee> not that I am aware of
[21:16] <ajmitch> a bit embarassing for a newspaper
[21:28] <thumper> morning