| bazhang | cross-posting gone wild | 05:22 |
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| rww | so why is my connection so much slower in linux then windows 7 could it be a driver issue? or some setting? | 05:22 |
| bazhang | nice. we can override staff now! | 05:25 |
| ubottu | ActionParsnip called the ops in #ubuntu () | 07:20 |
| Myrtti | merh | 08:53 |
| Tm_T | meh! | 08:55 |
| * Tm_T huggles Myrtti with all the meh! | 08:56 | |
| jpds | < Tom^> hai /b of linux irc channels | 09:28 |
| jpds | Troll detected. | 09:28 |
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| Pici | what is stephenthemartyr going on about? | 11:53 |
| bazhang | "The Days Of Our Installs" | 11:53 |
| bazhang | the amount of cross-posting is frankly stunning | 12:24 |
| elky | welcome to the idea of telling people about irc without telling them basic etiquette at the same time | 12:27 |
| bazhang | is thebig0ne try ing to install ubuntu even? | 12:44 |
| Pici | ikonia: going to remove the ban? Or? | 14:27 |
| ikonia | dumb floodbots, sure | 14:28 |
| ikonia | GirlyGirl: thank you for joining | 14:32 |
| GirlyGirl | ikonia: anything wrong? | 14:33 |
| ikonia | GirlyGirl: yes, please stop offering advice/discussion on apple/macos in #ubuntu | 14:33 |
| ikonia | I asked for it to stop 4 times to different people and you brought it up again | 14:34 |
| GirlyGirl | I believe I just told the person to refer to apple-support not here | 14:34 |
| ikonia | GirlyGirl: they had already been told it was not ontopic for the channe and givn the correct chnnel | 14:35 |
| ikonia | he also made it clear he wanted to do hackintosh, so pushing apple support is not helpful | 14:35 |
| GirlyGirl | ikonia: Ok sorry I didn't really read all his messages | 14:35 |
| ikonia | but you did read my messages asking it to stop ? | 14:36 |
| GirlyGirl | No sorry | 14:36 |
| GirlyGirl | didn't see them | 14:36 |
| ikonia | ok, I'll remove the mute in #ubuntu, you'll need to part and rejoin in a minute | 14:37 |
| GirlyGirl | ok I'll be more careful from now on thanks | 14:37 |
| ikonia | GirlyGirl: if you leave #ubuntu and rejoin you should be ok to speak again | 14:37 |
| GirlyGirl | ok .. trust me I had no intention of offering any advice to circumvent EULA's | 14:38 |
| ikonia | GirlyGirl: well, as I said if you leave this channel, leave #ubuntu and rejoin #ubuntu you should be fine | 14:39 |
| GirlyGirl | ikonia: Thank you I did that | 14:40 |
| UbuntuGNULinux | I'm having problem with Operator abuse by ikonia, I was kicked and lost voice simply for one piece of bad advice | 14:40 |
| ikonia | GirlyGirl: clearly not as your still here | 14:40 |
| UbuntuGNULinux | This was without any prior warning | 14:40 |
| GirlyGirl | ok leaving here | 14:40 |
| Pici | Sure, give us a chance to respond. | 14:40 |
| ikonia | Pici: I'd already told him in pm | 14:41 |
| ikonia | Pici: he's just read it and realised he looked foolish and parted | 14:41 |
| Pici | Ah. | 14:42 |
| Pici | GirlyGirl: You still appear to be here. | 14:42 |
| rww | GirlyGirl: the opposite of /join is /part ;) | 14:43 |
| GirlyGirl_ | ikonia: Sorry my connection dropped so I'm waiting to time out | 14:43 |
| ikonia | errr..... you're typing | 14:43 |
| ikonia | it's not dropped/timing out while it's active | 14:43 |
| GirlyGirl_ | ikonia: the one without "_" | 14:44 |
| Pici | GirlyGirl_: you can part your active client. We can remove the other. | 14:44 |
| GirlyGirl_ | ok | 14:44 |
| ikonia | UbuntuGNULinux still going on at me in PM that he wont' progress this through the council even though I was wrong to kic him | 14:45 |
| ikonia | I'm going to ban him and he can take it up with the council | 14:45 |
| ikonia | he's fluent in the rules in 5 langauges | 14:46 |
| ikonia | so he claims, so should know them | 14:46 |
| Pici | eh? | 14:46 |
| ikonia | lecturing me that it was unacceptable to kick him | 14:46 |
| Pici | The appeals process is to come here first, not to the council. | 14:46 |
| ikonia | Pici: that's his decision | 14:46 |
| * Pici shrugs | 14:47 | |
| UbuntuGNULinux | I wish to raise a complaint (again) about ikonia | 14:47 |
| Pici | UbuntuGNULinux: Perhaps you'll stick around this time. | 14:47 |
| UbuntuGNULinux | I have been kicked for simply making a joke (without any warning) | 14:47 |
| UbuntuGNULinux | And then banned for disagreeing with his decision | 14:47 |
| UbuntuGNULinux | I left last time because I was let back in | 14:47 |
| UbuntuGNULinux | Seems very heavy handed to me | 14:47 |
| UbuntuGNULinux | I request that ikonia immediately has op status removed until this abuse of power is resolved | 14:48 |
| Pici | Thats not really how our appeals process works. | 14:49 |
| Pici | You can take a look at this document if you'd like: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/AppealProcess | 14:49 |
| UbuntuGNULinux | I've done step 2 already, I PM'd him and got no understanding | 14:49 |
| ikonia | no | 14:50 |
| Pici | Anyway, if an operator feels that a user who has broken our rules is not going to continue to abide by them in the future, then a ban is placed. | 14:50 |
| ikonia | you pm'd me and refused to accept that is unacceptable behaviour | 14:50 |
| UbuntuGNULinux | Disagreeing isn't allowed? | 14:50 |
| UbuntuGNULinux | You didn't give any warning as your own guide indicates you should | 14:50 |
| UbuntuGNULinux | You just instantly kicked me | 14:50 |
| ikonia | correct | 14:50 |
| ikonia | spoke to you in pm - and allowed you to rejoin | 14:50 |
| UbuntuGNULinux | You need to follow the guidelines yourself | 14:50 |
| UbuntuGNULinux | Yes, and then kicked me for conversation in the PM rather than anything I'd said in the channel itself | 14:51 |
| ikonia | you where miss-leading a user with bad advice, you where removed | 14:51 |
| ikonia | I explained the reasons and allowed you to rejoin | 14:51 |
| Pici | Unfortunately our hands are tied due to the measures that we employ to allow webchats on the channel. We can't mute in those cases. | 14:51 |
| UbuntuGNULinux | And why was I kicked the second time? | 14:51 |
| UbuntuGNULinux | I hadn't spoken again in #ubuntu | 14:51 |
| ikonia | UbuntuGNULinux: because you refuse to accept your behaviour was wrong and are trying to complain about getting kicked rather than just using #ubuntu and suggesting you won't take it to the council | 14:51 |
| ikonia | I suggest i you are unhappy with th behaviour I'll remute you - which I did and you can follow the appeals process | 14:52 |
| ikonia | at this point, I'll leave you to the procees | 14:52 |
| UbuntuGNULinux | So if you disagree with an OP you get kicked? I didn't disagree with the policy that users should be helpful, I disagreed with you not following the policy of a warning before taking action | 14:52 |
| UbuntuGNULinux | This is in your own document! | 14:53 |
| UbuntuGNULinux | Please reinstate me in the #ubuntu channel, I won't disagree with any more OPs | 14:53 |
| UbuntuGNULinux | Your document says "continued misbehaving after you have been advised to stop is disruptive" | 14:55 |
| UbuntuGNULinux | I did not see any advice | 14:55 |
| UbuntuGNULinux | Kicking is not advice | 14:56 |
| LjL | UbuntuGNULinux: kicking is a valid form of warning. in your case it automatically resulted in a ban, but that wasn't intended. | 15:00 |
| UbuntuGNULinux | I disagree, I have never been in a channel where kicking is a warning | 15:00 |
| UbuntuGNULinux | It's unfriendly to say the least | 15:00 |
| LjL | well it's not friendly to give bogus advice either | 15:01 |
| UbuntuGNULinux | Anyway, thanks for resolving the issue, I'm sure not all OPs are unfair like ikonia :) | 15:01 |
| LjL | who resolved anything? | 15:02 |
| ikonia | just more smart mouth from him | 15:02 |
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| ikonia | MarkShuttlewort $50 says will not end well | 18:01 |
| bombshellz | Hello | 21:04 |
| ikonia | hello | 21:05 |
| bombshellz | Apparently there's a ban placed on *bshellz.* and some how matches bombshellz.net | 21:05 |
| bombshellz | Bombshellz.net and Bshellz are two different entities and no way related | 21:05 |
| bombshellz | I was told to visit here to see if I can resolve the issue? | 21:06 |
| ikonia | well, I don't think there is a ban on bshellz anymore | 21:06 |
| ikonia | I will look though | 21:06 |
| mrmist | there is indeed | 21:06 |
| LjL | yes there is | 21:06 |
| LjL | i have no idea how it would impact bombshellz.net though | 21:06 |
| mrmist | it's *bshellz | 21:06 |
| bombshellz | I can't join the channel | 21:06 |
| ikonia | I thought we'd removed the bshellz one | 21:06 |
| bombshellz | It says, you're +b | 21:06 |
| mrmist | Ban against *!*@*bshellz.* matches bombshellz!bombshell@staff.bombshellz.net (Set by rww!~rww@ubuntu/member/rww) | 21:06 |
| mrmist | So accidentally covers their host | 21:07 |
| LjL | oh right | 21:07 |
| bombshellz | because | 21:07 |
| bombshellz | of the bshellz near the end | 21:07 |
| LjL | bombshellz: does your shell normally enforce identd? is it paid? | 21:07 |
| bombshellz | LjL: I'm the owner, we do have oidentd running and no it's not paid but we're very stringent of our users | 21:08 |
| LjL | bombshellz: i don't suppose you have a channel here on freenode where we could reach you in case of issues? is abuse at bombshellz dot net in place? | 21:08 |
| bombshellz | LjL: admin@bombshellz.net is fine... Our channel is on our own network ;) | 21:09 |
| LjL | bombshellz: ok i'll change the ban | 21:09 |
| ikonia | the webpage looks like it has good policies | 21:09 |
| bombshellz | LjL: I'm actually the person who is need of assistance ;) | 21:10 |
| LjL | bombshellz: you should be able to join now | 21:10 |
| bombshellz | Thanks, well I have to leave now ... I'll visit later on thanks | 21:11 |
| LjL | see you later | 21:11 |
| bombshellz | Thanks LjL and mrmist for your assistance in this matter ;) | 21:11 |
| emma | anyone here have ops in #ubuntu-uk? | 22:59 |
| ikonia | emma: what's up ? | 23:01 |
| emma | hi | 23:11 |
| emma | I had a bad connection a few days and I think I was banned for bouncing, can you reset that? | 23:12 |
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