[05:22] cross-posting gone wild [05:22] so why is my connection so much slower in linux then windows 7 could it be a driver issue? or some setting? [05:25] nice. we can override staff now! [07:20] ActionParsnip called the ops in #ubuntu () [08:53] merh [08:55] meh! [08:56] * Tm_T huggles Myrtti with all the meh! [09:28] < Tom^> hai /b of linux irc channels [09:28] Troll detected. === jrib is now known as Guest13824 === Guest13824 is now known as jrib === bazhang__ is now known as bazhang [11:53] what is stephenthemartyr going on about? [11:53] "The Days Of Our Installs" [12:24] the amount of cross-posting is frankly stunning [12:27] welcome to the idea of telling people about irc without telling them basic etiquette at the same time [12:44] is thebig0ne try ing to install ubuntu even? [14:27] ikonia: going to remove the ban? Or? [14:28] dumb floodbots, sure [14:32] GirlyGirl: thank you for joining [14:33] ikonia: anything wrong? [14:33] GirlyGirl: yes, please stop offering advice/discussion on apple/macos in #ubuntu [14:34] I asked for it to stop 4 times to different people and you brought it up again [14:34] I believe I just told the person to refer to apple-support not here [14:35] GirlyGirl: they had already been told it was not ontopic for the channe and givn the correct chnnel [14:35] he also made it clear he wanted to do hackintosh, so pushing apple support is not helpful [14:35] ikonia: Ok sorry I didn't really read all his messages [14:36] but you did read my messages asking it to stop ? [14:36] No sorry [14:36] didn't see them [14:37] ok, I'll remove the mute in #ubuntu, you'll need to part and rejoin in a minute [14:37] ok I'll be more careful from now on thanks [14:37] GirlyGirl: if you leave #ubuntu and rejoin you should be ok to speak again [14:38] ok .. trust me I had no intention of offering any advice to circumvent EULA's [14:39] GirlyGirl: well, as I said if you leave this channel, leave #ubuntu and rejoin #ubuntu you should be fine [14:40] ikonia: Thank you I did that [14:40] I'm having problem with Operator abuse by ikonia, I was kicked and lost voice simply for one piece of bad advice [14:40] GirlyGirl: clearly not as your still here [14:40] This was without any prior warning [14:40] ok leaving here [14:40] Sure, give us a chance to respond. [14:41] Pici: I'd already told him in pm [14:41] Pici: he's just read it and realised he looked foolish and parted [14:42] Ah. [14:42] GirlyGirl: You still appear to be here. [14:43] GirlyGirl: the opposite of /join is /part ;) [14:43] ikonia: Sorry my connection dropped so I'm waiting to time out [14:43] errr..... you're typing [14:43] it's not dropped/timing out while it's active [14:44] ikonia: the one without "_" [14:44] GirlyGirl_: you can part your active client. We can remove the other. [14:44] ok [14:45] UbuntuGNULinux still going on at me in PM that he wont' progress this through the council even though I was wrong to kic him [14:45] I'm going to ban him and he can take it up with the council [14:46] he's fluent in the rules in 5 langauges [14:46] so he claims, so should know them [14:46] eh? [14:46] lecturing me that it was unacceptable to kick him [14:46] The appeals process is to come here first, not to the council. [14:46] Pici: that's his decision [14:47] * Pici shrugs [14:47] I wish to raise a complaint (again) about ikonia [14:47] UbuntuGNULinux: Perhaps you'll stick around this time. [14:47] I have been kicked for simply making a joke (without any warning) [14:47] And then banned for disagreeing with his decision [14:47] I left last time because I was let back in [14:47] Seems very heavy handed to me [14:48] I request that ikonia immediately has op status removed until this abuse of power is resolved [14:49] Thats not really how our appeals process works. [14:49] You can take a look at this document if you'd like: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/AppealProcess [14:49] I've done step 2 already, I PM'd him and got no understanding [14:50] no [14:50] Anyway, if an operator feels that a user who has broken our rules is not going to continue to abide by them in the future, then a ban is placed. [14:50] you pm'd me and refused to accept that is unacceptable behaviour [14:50] Disagreeing isn't allowed? [14:50] You didn't give any warning as your own guide indicates you should [14:50] You just instantly kicked me [14:50] correct [14:50] spoke to you in pm - and allowed you to rejoin [14:50] You need to follow the guidelines yourself [14:51] Yes, and then kicked me for conversation in the PM rather than anything I'd said in the channel itself [14:51] you where miss-leading a user with bad advice, you where removed [14:51] I explained the reasons and allowed you to rejoin [14:51] Unfortunately our hands are tied due to the measures that we employ to allow webchats on the channel. We can't mute in those cases. [14:51] And why was I kicked the second time? [14:51] I hadn't spoken again in #ubuntu [14:51] UbuntuGNULinux: because you refuse to accept your behaviour was wrong and are trying to complain about getting kicked rather than just using #ubuntu and suggesting you won't take it to the council [14:52] I suggest i you are unhappy with th behaviour I'll remute you - which I did and you can follow the appeals process [14:52] at this point, I'll leave you to the procees [14:52] So if you disagree with an OP you get kicked? I didn't disagree with the policy that users should be helpful, I disagreed with you not following the policy of a warning before taking action [14:53] This is in your own document! [14:53] Please reinstate me in the #ubuntu channel, I won't disagree with any more OPs [14:55] Your document says "continued misbehaving after you have been advised to stop is disruptive" [14:55] I did not see any advice [14:56] Kicking is not advice [15:00] UbuntuGNULinux: kicking is a valid form of warning. in your case it automatically resulted in a ban, but that wasn't intended. [15:00] I disagree, I have never been in a channel where kicking is a warning [15:00] It's unfriendly to say the least [15:01] well it's not friendly to give bogus advice either [15:01] Anyway, thanks for resolving the issue, I'm sure not all OPs are unfair like ikonia :) [15:02] who resolved anything? [15:02] just more smart mouth from him === oCean_ is now known as oCean === topyli_ is now known as topyli [18:01] MarkShuttlewort $50 says will not end well [21:04] Hello [21:05] hello [21:05] Apparently there's a ban placed on *bshellz.* and some how matches bombshellz.net [21:05] Bombshellz.net and Bshellz are two different entities and no way related [21:06] I was told to visit here to see if I can resolve the issue? [21:06] well, I don't think there is a ban on bshellz anymore [21:06] I will look though [21:06] there is indeed [21:06] yes there is [21:06] i have no idea how it would impact bombshellz.net though [21:06] it's *bshellz [21:06] I can't join the channel [21:06] I thought we'd removed the bshellz one [21:06] It says, you're +b [21:06] Ban against *!*@*bshellz.* matches bombshellz!bombshell@staff.bombshellz.net (Set by rww!~rww@ubuntu/member/rww) [21:07] So accidentally covers their host [21:07] oh right [21:07] because [21:07] of the bshellz near the end [21:07] bombshellz: does your shell normally enforce identd? is it paid? [21:08] LjL: I'm the owner, we do have oidentd running and no it's not paid but we're very stringent of our users [21:08] bombshellz: i don't suppose you have a channel here on freenode where we could reach you in case of issues? is abuse at bombshellz dot net in place? [21:09] LjL: admin@bombshellz.net is fine... Our channel is on our own network ;) [21:09] bombshellz: ok i'll change the ban [21:09] the webpage looks like it has good policies [21:10] LjL: I'm actually the person who is need of assistance ;) [21:10] bombshellz: you should be able to join now [21:11] Thanks, well I have to leave now ... I'll visit later on thanks [21:11] see you later [21:11] Thanks LjL and mrmist for your assistance in this matter ;) [22:59] anyone here have ops in #ubuntu-uk? [23:01] emma: what's up ? [23:11] hi [23:12] I had a bad connection a few days and I think I was banned for bouncing, can you reset that?