[12:18] <jibel> no desktop today and alternate fails to install : system-config-printer-common : Depends: python-packagekit but it is not installable
[12:18] <jibel> submitting a bug
[12:27] <jibel> bug 819267
[12:27] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 819267 in system-config-printer (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 1 other project) "Oneiric desktop image failed to build and alternate failed to install: system-config-printer-common : Depends: python-packagekit but it is not installable (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/819267
[14:11] <skaet> jibel,  ack.
[14:28] <superm1> hey can an archive admin please help look at mythbuntu-lightdm-theme in NEW?  It is intended for a3. thx
[14:34] <jibel> skaet, a fixed for 819267 has been uploaded. we'll wait for unity components to be uploaded, built and published and we can respin the images.
[14:35] <jibel> skaet, that's something like in 3 hours.
[14:37] <skaet> jibel,  thanks for the update,  I'm tempted to trigger a respin before unity,  so we have a set of images and can narrow down any failures incase there is something else lurking.
[14:37] <skaet> NCommander, slangasek, ^^,  FYI.
[14:38] <stgraber> skaet: if you do, can you wait for ltsp and ldm to publish so I can at least validate that LTSP indeed works again?
[14:40] <skaet> stgraber,  sure,  if they're uploaded already.   what's the ETA?
[14:40] <seb128> skaet, respins will not work until system-config-printer is not upload, built and published
[14:41] <seb128> skaet, so you need to wait at least an hour (or 2 if till doesn't catch the next publisher run with his upload)
[14:41] <jibel> skaet, ETA for s-c-p is 16:00UTC at best
[14:42] <skaet> seb128, jibel,  thanks.   Thought it was uploaded,  ok,  will start a fresh set when those pieces are in place
[14:45] <skaet> seb128, njpatel, who's uploading the newest drop of unity?   what's the outlook on that?
[14:46] <njpatel> skaet, me and just testing the stack now and releasing
[14:46] <seb128> skaet, njpatel is supposed to roll the tarballs, didrocks to do the packaging
[14:46] <didrocks> (as usual I would say :))
[14:46] <skaet> :)  ok   just checking.  :)
[14:46] <seb128> yeah, we have no impacting holidays in those teams atm ;-)
[14:47] <stgraber> skaet: they've been uploaded 30min ago, so should be published soon
[14:48] <skaet> didrocks, njpatel - can you let me know before the unity upload happens.   Want to make sure we've got the images building again before we add unity to the mix.
[14:48] <njpatel> sure
[14:49] <didrocks> skaet: will do
[14:49] <jibel> skaet, any news from gilir about lubuntu ? there is still no alternate and most recent desktop image is a week old.
[14:53] <skaet> jibel,  no haven't heard an update.
[14:53] <skaet> gilir,  how is lubuntu looking?   are we going for alternates this time around?
[17:00] <ScottK> skaet: Could we get a respin of the Kubuntu live images?  They failed today, but I think the reason is fixed now.
[17:02] <skaet> ScottK,  kicked off now
[17:04] <didrocks> skaet: so, I have libunity-misc, nux, unity… but this ask for a rebuild of unity-2d, which fails right now
[17:06] <NCommander> didrocks: unity-2d is FTBFS or?
[17:06] <didrocks> NCommander: it will with the new release of unity
[17:06] <didrocks> as it deps on unity right now
[17:06] <skaet> didrocks,  please hold off on upload until all the pieces build,  we're still waiting to get working images.
[17:06] <didrocks> checking
[17:06] <didrocks> skaet: when the images will finish their rebuild?
[17:07] <ScottK> skaet: Thanks.
[17:07] <skaet> didrocks, I'm not seeing some pieces, yet, so probably a couple of hours.
[17:08] <didrocks> skaet: please keep me updated, it's getting late there (I'm always starting really early) :)
[17:08] <skaet> didrocks, will do once you've got all the pieces ready,  we'll make a decision.
[17:09] <NCommander> skaet: I'm looking into the livefs failure now
[17:10] <skaet> NCommander, thanks!  see comments from jibel on the bug 819267
[17:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 819267 in system-config-printer (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 1 other project) "Oneiric desktop image failed to build and alternate failed to install: system-config-printer-common : Depends: python-packagekit but it is not installable (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/819267
[17:10] <NCommander> stgraber: both ldm and ltsp are now published, can you see if LTSP is fixed?
[17:13] <stgraber> NCommander: I know the package works on an installed system. I need an ISO build to confirm that the d-i plugin works too
[17:14] <NCommander> stgraber: your next in the queue while kubuntu comes up
[17:15] <skaet> jibel, ^^
[17:15] <didrocks> skaet: dx failed to sync their API…
[17:15] <didrocks> skaet: I'm fixing their work, once again…
[17:16] <skaet> didrocks,  ack :P
[17:22] <NCommander> stgraber: alternates are building, you should have them in a bit
[17:22] <stgraber> NCommander: ok, thanks
[17:25] <jibel> didrocks, how long will it take ?
[17:26] <didrocks> jibel: well, building a new unity right now after reverting a commit
[17:31] <jibel> skaet, NCommander , if next build includes system-config-printer (1.3.5+20110801-0ubuntu1) and we have no news from didrocks before 1800UTC we can respin alternate and desktop.
[17:33] <didrocks> do a respin anyway
[17:33] <didrocks> nux needs to be built and published for unity to be built
[17:33] <jibel> didrocks, ack.
[17:34] <didrocks> then, unity needs to be built and published before unity-2d can be built
[17:34] <didrocks> so it will take 3 hours
[17:34] <didrocks> at least
[17:35] <skaet>  jibel,  Ncommander has started started rebuild of alternates that will include the system-config-printer  (1.3.5+20110801-0ubuntu1)
[17:35] <skaet> live to follow as well.
[17:35] <NCommander> alternate rebuild complete, its just publishing now. I just kicked the live build
[17:35] <jibel> skaet, ok thanks
[17:38] <NCommander> stgraber: hot images, get your nice hot alternate images: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily/20110801.1/
[17:43] <slangasek> NCommander: should these be posted to the ISO tracker?  (And do you have access to post them there?)
[17:44] <NCommander> slangasek: I don't have access to the tracker, but at the moment, I think we're just trying ot make sure everything builds; we're not even in milestone freeze ATM
[17:44] <slangasek> fair enough
[17:48] <didrocks> NCommander: skaet: jibel: ok, all is fine now with the revert
[17:48] <didrocks> tell me when I can proceed the upload
[17:49] <skaet> NCommander, slangasek,  actually we announce soft freeze was supposed to be 1200 UTC today in last week's release meeting, but it probably should have been broadcast by u-d-a mail as well.
[17:49] <NCommander> didrocks: once this spin finishes, then unity shold be uploade
[17:49] <didrocks> NCommander: do you have an ETA? I would like to take some french air :)
[17:50] <didrocks> fresh*
[17:50] <skaet> :)
[17:51] <NCommander> didrocks: probably 30-40 minutes?
[17:51] <didrocks> NCommander: ok, enough time for me to run then
[18:22] <NCommander> didrocks: feel free to upload
[18:22] <NCommander> skaet: live images built
[18:25] <didrocks> NCommander: thanks, doing :)
[18:29] <skaet> ScottK,  kubuntu live images available as well.
[18:29] <ScottK> Just saw them.  They landed slightly oversized, so I'm going to see if I can fix that.
[18:30] <NCommander> skaet: just noticed that the ubuntu live images are oversized, taking a look at where they can take a diet
[18:30] <skaet> NCommander,  if you spot some low hanging fruit,  cool,  but they're pretty much expected to be oversized until beta.  lots of transitions going on.
[18:31] <NCommander> if they're expected to be oversize (and that's acceptable for A3), then that's foine
[18:31] <skaet> hiya gilir,  how are the lubuntu images - do you need a respin today as well?   Also, are we going to get alternates?
[18:32] <NCommander> skaet: the NBS list is scary
[18:32] <charlie-tca> Please don't break xubuntu images in all these fixes :)
[18:33]  * charlie-tca thinks "undersize and working, whew!"
[18:33] <skaet> NCommander - yeah,  inadvertent sync from Debian last week effect.
[18:34] <skaet> charlie-tca,  do you want me to post the current xubuntu daily images so the testing can start,  if these are working?
[18:34] <charlie-tca> I am checking to make sure first
[18:35] <skaet> charlie-tca, goodness.   Let me know what you want done.
[18:35] <skaet> ScottK,  similarily - if the Kubuntu ones, look reasonable,  I'll post.
[18:36] <gilir> skaet, yes, an update should be fine :) But I still don't know where to look at to see why lubuntu images are not updated since 25
[18:37] <NCommander> skaet: I'm attacking the uninstallability list at the mpment so we might have a chance at ARM images
[18:37] <skaet> slangasek,  can you help gilir ^^ ?
[18:38] <skaet> NCommander,  sounds good.
[18:38] <skaet> gilir,  ok,  I'll start of the builds and we'll see what happens.
[18:38] <gilir> skaet, thanks :)
[18:39] <ScottK> skaet: Is 700MB still considered oversize?
[18:39] <ScottK> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ says it is, but I thought we decided different.
[18:40] <skaet> ScottK, good question,  am not sure when the transition over was supposed to happen,  and the scripts are probably over due to be scrubbed.
[18:41] <ScottK> So I can consider 700MB OK for now?
[18:42] <skaet> ScottK,  ok by me, rest are showing up as oversized,  but I think its your call at this point until we get clarification from pitti.
[18:42] <NCommander> Sc	my understanding was still 700MiB
[18:42] <NCommander>  sorry, lap
[18:43]  * micahg thought it was 703.something
[18:43] <skaet> slangasek,  do you remember when we were supposed to go up to 703?  and what the preconditions were?
[18:43] <charlie-tca> skaet: we have a change to xubuntu-default-settings that went through to remove the Guest session from lightdm
[18:44] <micahg> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-o-great-cd-debate
[18:44] <charlie-tca> If we have to respin for anything, that should be in the respin, otherwise, I can just release note it
[18:45] <charlie-tca> Let's go ahead and put the images on the tracker as they are.
[18:45] <skaet> charlie-tca, will do.  we'll be respining a full set tonight to pick up the unity upload.
[18:45] <skaet> so you have some choice ;)
[18:46] <charlie-tca> That's pick up the change for me too then. No point running these
[18:46] <skaet> ok,  won't post then.
[18:46] <charlie-tca> Thank you
[18:46] <ScottK> skaet: Looks to me like slangasek investigated and 703.something is the actual limit.
[18:48] <skaet> ScottK,  hmm... trying to figure out why it still says: [vorlon] Further investigate feasibility of increasing CD limit to 703.125 MiB: TODO then.
[18:48] <ScottK> Agreed.
[18:48] <ScottK> Maybe he'll tell us.
[18:48]  * skaet nods
[18:50] <skaet> gilir,  slangasek,  lubuntu images appear to not be in the cron job - someone's edit last week must have have accidentally removed them.
[18:52] <slangasek> skaet, ScottK: I was still working on chasing down all possible reasons why we might want to stick with the lower limit; the trail is rather cold
[18:52] <slangasek> looking at lubuntu
[18:53] <ScottK> slangasek: So AFAYK, 703 is OK?
[18:54] <slangasek> skaet, gilir: I don't see lubuntu in the master crontab in bzr; what time of day was this scheduled for (or what time do we want it scheduled for)?
[18:54] <slangasek> ScottK: yes, AFAIK
[18:55] <ScottK> skaet: ^^^
[18:55] <skaet> slangasek, ScottK,  ack.
[18:55] <ScottK> skaet: I think we ought to go with 703 for Alpha 3 and see how it goes.
[18:58] <skaet> slangasek,  not sure when lubuntu was scheduled for by cjwatson originally.   go ahead and choose,  we'll adjust as needed after A3 is out.
[19:01] <skaet> slangasek, gilir,  have kicked off lubuntu daily-live build.
[19:08] <ScottK> skaet: Would you please do another Kubuntu live for i386 only in ~40 minutes (after the current publisher run finishes)?
[19:09] <NCommander> ScottK: I'll get it
[19:09] <slangasek> skaet: lubuntu builds added to the crontab
[19:10] <skaet> slangasek,  thank you.  :)
[19:10] <ScottK> NCommander: Thanks.  Actually I need amd64 too since amarok is out of date there.
[19:12] <gilir> skaet, slangasek, thanks :)
[19:33] <stgraber> I uploaded a new edubuntu-meta just now. It's not a requirement for alpha-3 (seeds haven't been changed, just a refresh) but if I wanted it uploaded so it might have a chance to get in anyway.
[19:41] <ScottK> We aren't actually frozen yet for Alpha 3, are we?
[19:41] <chrisccoulson> i was just about to ask the same question ;)
[19:44] <skaet> ScottK,  chriscoulson, Freeze was scheduled for 1200 UTC today,  however we haven't sent out announce yet.
[19:44] <ScottK> Why are we freezing early?
[19:45] <skaet> ScottK,  so much churn from the inadvertent debian import last week,  want to make sure we have a chance to get things fixed up again.
[19:46] <skaet> unity was also running late as well.
[19:46] <ScottK> That would mean the opposite of freezing to me.
[19:46] <ScottK> BTW, the python-dbus/python-qt4 fallout from the sync is fixed.
[19:47] <chrisccoulson> i guess now would be an inappropriate time to upload the latest firefox beta then ;)
[19:47] <skaet> Trying to ratchet down the rate of unexpected changes.
[19:47] <skaet> chrisccoulson, yes.
[19:47] <skaet> please hold off until after we get these images sorted.  ;0
[19:47] <skaet> :) even...
[19:48] <skaet> ScottK,  please go ahead and upload the python-dbus/python-qt4 fixes.  :)
[19:48] <ScottK> skaet: They are done and in the archive already.
[19:48] <skaet> ScottK,  great! :)
[19:54] <NCommander> ScottK: kubuntu respin kicked
[19:54] <ScottK> NCommander: Thanks.
[19:58] <stgraber> skaet, jibel: LTSP failed, quite likely due to transition to /run. Working on a fix now.
[19:58] <skaet> stgraber,  thanks!
[20:49] <skaet> ScottK,  kubuntu powerpc images failing to build.  Are you going to try for them this release?
[20:49] <skaet> s/release/milestone/
[20:58] <micahg> BTW, aisleriot is going to be broken in alpha3 (affects, Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu)
[20:58] <NCommander> first set of iso images are in the tracker
[21:02] <skaet> micahg, is there a bug number?
[21:02] <micahg> bug 813428
[21:02] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 813428 in ubuntu (and 1 other project) "[needs-packaging] aisleriot (affects: 1) (heat: 242)" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/813428
[21:03] <micahg> it used to be part of gnome-games
[21:03] <slangasek> huh, why is it a "broken" rather than "missing" then?
[21:04] <micahg> old binaries still exist :)
[21:04] <slangasek> ah
[21:10] <stgraber> skaet: uploaded the new ltsp. I did a quick test manually applying these changes and install worked here.
[21:10] <skaet> stgraber,  ok,  as soon as it publishes,  either myself or NCommander (depends who's around),  will kick off a rebuild to check.
[21:11] <stgraber> ok, thanks
[21:37] <superm1> skaet, i'll need to upload a new mythbuntu-meta yet once mythbuntu-lightdm-theme is out of NEW
[21:38] <superm1> and mythbuntu will need a respin after that
[21:38] <skaet> superm1,  ok,  just let me or NCommander know when its ready to spin.
[21:39] <superm1> ok, just waiting on an AA for now
[22:00] <micahg> NCommander: for future reference, you might want to update that first paragraph of the freeze e-mail to say something about seeded instead of main, the bottom of the e-mail already does
[22:46] <ScottK> skaet: Yes.  Still waiting for stuff to build (re powerpc)
[22:46] <ScottK> skaet: We're going to need to respin all the Kubuntu images for kdepim anyway.
[22:47] <skaet> ScottK,  ok, will mark them as for rebuild.   what is ETA on kdepim?
[22:47] <ScottK> skaet: Building now.
[22:57] <skaet> superm1,  kirkland will have a look at mytbuntu-lightdm-theme for us.
[23:14] <superm1> thanks kirkland
[23:14] <superm1> i'll get the meta uploaded shortly then
[23:15] <kirkland> superm1: np;  poke me again once the binaries are there too
[23:16] <superm1> kirkland, looks like they're there already :https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythbuntu-lightdm-theme/0.7/+build/2661334
[23:16]  * skaet -> dinner,  will check back later tonight.
[23:19] <kirkland> superm1: done!
[23:58] <ScottK> skaet: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/4:4.7.0-0ubuntu1 finished and through New is what we need.  I'll try and look in on it later tonight.