[00:10] gents has anyone seen leguin.acc.umu.se within a netstat on their rigs? I did netstat -a | grep 127.0.0.1 and that came up. [00:13] lickalott, why would we? [00:13] does a user need to be logged in on the server, for samba to be running? (i want to set samba to share /media/drive1, /media/drive2) [00:13] I'm suprised that worked at all [00:14] cause that means your rdns is broken that grep matched 127.0.0.1 on any line [00:14] km0201, nope [00:14] hmm [00:15] cuz freenas has irritated me for the last time, and i'm seriously considering putting ubuntu server on a flash drive, booting it and just using it as my file server. [00:16] i'm pretty familiar w/ Ubuntu, and i've successfully done what I want to do, in Vbox, but I done it w/ a GUI... not sure I know how to do it w/ a CLI. [00:16] i guess i'll practice doing it w/ ubuntu server in vbox now.. :) [00:17] patdk-lap, the other question i have though... i have two drives on my NAS/File Server... (one is a mirror of the other).. i'm pretty sure i can figure out how to mirror them, but i don't need to be logged in, for those drives to auto mount (i'll add them to fstab) right? [00:18] ya [00:18] ya... i don't need to log in, or ya.. i do... ? [00:19] heh? [00:19] for what? [00:19] do i need to log in, for the drives to automount [00:19] the only reason to ever log in, is to perform mantaince [00:19] well, i can ssh in and do maintenance right? (this will be headless) [00:19] ya [00:20] ok. [00:20] add drives to fstab [00:20] ok... [00:20] configure samba normally using smb.conf [00:20] its smb.conf i'm not sure how to configure. [00:21] not hard, mainly depends on what kind of security your going for [00:21] just basic stuff.. user login w/ a password.... i'm used to the easy way with Nautilus (right click, sharing options, ).. [00:21] never done it by CLI [00:21] with or without an AD server? [00:22] AD server? [00:22] guess without [00:22] i guess i'll say w/o, cuz i don't know what that is. [00:22] this is just a home file server, no outside access, etc. [00:22] storage, etc. [00:22] then your going have to build a user database for samba, and users on the system [00:22] that is the most annoying mode I find [00:23] what do you mean?.. using it as a file server is annoying? [00:23] using samba in user login mode [00:23] security=user [00:23] oh ok... yeah, i'd like to have a user log in though, why.. i dunno.. but i would likee that [00:24] i'll cross that bridge when i come to it. [00:24] the only point of it is if you want people to have different rights to different folders on a share [00:24] and i don't. [00:24] you're actually right, there's no real point to it, now that i think about it. [00:24] you want everyone to just have access to everything? [00:24] well "everyone" is really only 2-3 people. [00:25] doesn't matter how many everyone is [00:25] 2 adults, one teen, and there's nothing on there that is compromising... home movies, music, family pics, etc. [00:25] i think thats what i'll do, is just allow anyone to access it. [00:26] normally that is easy then [00:26] use security=share [00:26] and just use guest access on the shares [00:26] well, i'll cross that bridge when i come to it. [00:26] and everyone logs in as guest :) [00:26] hmm [00:26] ok. [00:26] well, i'll cross that bridge when i come to it. [00:27] right now, i'm perfecting my testing in Vbox (5gig install drive, 2x5gig virtual drives, basically my setup on a much smaller scale)... [00:28] call me anal, i hate rolling stuff out w/ testing, i made that mistake going from freenas 6-8 [01:16] I have been using ispcp, just done a format and installed 10.10. I done apt-cache search control | grep panel and found out that dtc is included in the apt-cache, how ever I can not find any help docs on this. could someone please point me in the right direction [01:17] lifeless: good point [01:18] lifeless: `~/.ensemble/$envname is probably a sane default.. [01:19] SpamapS: apt is bust in oneiric atm for debootstrapping :( [01:19] SpamapS: also, that mail I sent you with friction - did you convert it to bugs, or should I, or are they all known ? [01:20] lifeless: I believe serge and I fixed that last Tuesday [01:20] lifeless: I fixed getall to be more sane... [01:20] lifeless: the rest I don't recall.. let me look it back up [01:20] bug 816606 [01:20] Launchpad bug 816606 in apt "apt postinst failure if ubuntu-keyring not installed" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/816606 [01:20] is the apt thing [01:21] lifeless: yeah we worked around it by adding ubuntu-keyring as an explicit package to debootstrap [01:21] SpamapS: except ensemble-lxc doesn't seem to be nabbing it [01:22] tho I think I'll mark our bug, 817233, as a dupe of that one [01:22] lifeless: you have to rm -rf /var/cache/lxc/oneiric [01:22] sry patdk-lap got pulled away for a sec. [01:22] i have no idea what that host is. I saw "acc" and got a little worried. [01:24] SpamapS: trying [01:24] SpamapS: also, probably need to handle lxc containers already existing - e.g. ensemble-0 existing [01:25] bbiab, gotta run cat to vey [01:26] lifeless: right.. I have thought about changing to use a UUID. [01:27] SpamapS: or make it in /tmp ? :P [01:27] lifeless: hm.. it does just have to store a tiny state yaml and the formula zips [01:31] New bug: #817233 in lxc (main) "oneiric containers need ubuntu-keyring package (dup-of: 816606)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/817233 [01:33] patdk-lap, u still around? [01:33] anybody know a halfway decent samba tutorial? [01:40] !serverguide [01:40] The Ubuntu server guide may be found at http://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/ [01:40] KM0201: ^^ [01:41] SpamapS, thanks... [01:42] i actually found that via google.. but it's telling me to find "security=user" in smb.conf in the global section, and i don't see it. [01:42] nevermind [01:42] its not under global, its under authentication [01:43] If the documentation has a bug, you should report it [01:43] doc bugs are arguably the worst kind [01:44] yeah, they are... thats why i'm fed up w/ freenas [01:44] they are viral.. copying themselves into peoples' memories [01:44] my needs are minimal, and i don't know why i never considered just using Ubuntu server (i'm pretty famiiliar w/ the Ubuntu OS, but.. never ran a completley CLI system, so im testing it in Vbox right now... with a GUI..lol) [01:45] lifeless: btw, the last time I was messing with that branch.. I had problems with the oneiric bootup.. something was borking hard [01:46] KM0201: you can run a GUI on a server, but we don't recommend it -- and that applies to ANY server, not just Ubuntu Server. [01:47] twb, yeah, i know.. but.. i know my way around the various GUI's... so i'm setting it up w/ an LXDE front in Vbox now.. (total of 3 virtual drives, to simulate my NAS on a smaller scale)... once i've taken good notes on what i done in the GUI, etc.. I'll test it w/ the server ISO. [01:47] honestly, as long as i've been using Linux, i should be a lot more comfortable in CLI than I am.. i've been spoiled by GUI tools. [01:49] what is nmbd, by the way?.. never heard of that one [01:50] nmbd is part of samba [01:51] Probably stands for something like "netbios message bus daemon" [01:51] oh ok. [01:51] See, Windows' filesharing was devised before TCP/IP and DNS had won [01:51] So Windows has its own alternative to DNS: netbios [01:52] windows has its own alternative to everything [01:52] And until XP, if not later, you need to have this complete replacement for netbios around, and what nmbd does is translate between NetBIOS and DNS [01:52] Is that still true with Win 2008 ? [01:52] SMB2 is allegedly MUCH better, on par with NFSv4, but I haven't looked at it. [01:53] Delerium_: I believe DNS is the default as at Vista or 7, but I don't know if netbios needs to still be there in the background [01:53] Delerium_: ##windows probably knows [01:53] "nmbd, which provides the NetBIOS-to-IP-address name service. NetBIOS over TCP/IP requires some method for mapping NetBIOS computer names to the IP addresses of a TCP/IP network." [01:53] https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/nmbd [01:54] twb, Thanks, I was just curious ;) [01:54] https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Server_Message_Block#SMB2 [01:54] twb, didn't work with as a SysAdm on Windows for about 10 years... [01:54] Delerium_: I haven't even *used* Windows for about eight years [01:55] twb, Lucky you... I still support WAS on a couple of Windows boxes, but I don't support windows itself [01:56] twb, and I'm force to use a WinXP Laptop for "Windows Only" software... puke [01:56] I'm trying to setup a static ip on my server.. I'm curious on what a couple of the settings should be.. address is the IP address that I want it to set, subnet is the subnet of the network, what do I need to put into network, broadcast and gateway [01:57] On a trusted network, I would use DHCP for everything except the DHCP server itself. [01:57] (And instruct the DHCP server to assign fixed addresses to other servers.) [01:58] twb: I want to be able to ssh into the server not having to figure out what the ip address is [01:58] cjohnston: 11:57 (And instruct the DHCP server to assign fixed addresses to other servers.) [01:59] I'm not sure on my router how to do that [01:59] Well, if the router isn't running Ubuntu, you'd turn it off and have your server handle DHCP [01:59] (And DNS) [01:59] But if you want to go static, we can talk about that instead [02:00] twb: I have some stupid router provided by the provider.. its a modem/router in one that takes care of the TVs and everything.. I think I may have just figured it out tho.. 1 sec [02:03] what's a good tool to mirror a drive automatically. [02:03] dd [02:03] twb: I think I figured it out.. thanks [02:12] is there a SWAT alternative? (since it doesn't seem to be supported anymore) [02:12] An alternative to what? [02:13] Sorry, misread. IMO you should learn to manage samba from its config files. [02:14] ok, i figured that would be your position, cuz thats what the FAQ said..lol [02:14] i think i've about got it anyway, but it's all set up w/ a GUI front, so i'm gonna reboot, and set it up w/ server edition by my notes. [02:16] only thing i need to figure out is mirroring 1 drive to another. [02:18] back ina few.. [02:18] KM0201, One time deal? Or live mirror on 2 drives? [02:18] Delerium_, live mirror [02:18] i think i read about rsync [02:18] but thats the next thing i want to look ati. [02:19] KM0201, or use Software RAID 1 [02:19] can you hoold that htought?.. i'll be back in about 2min [02:19] check this out: http://advosys.ca/viewpoints/2007/04/setting-up-software-raid-in-ubuntu-server/ [02:19] oh, awesome. [02:19] Not sure how complete it is .. but looks pretty good at first sigh [02:19] sight... [02:19] well, i guarantee i will find errors..lol [02:20] KM0201, yeah ... Just found that this article date from 2007.. might be a bit old and maybe it has changes since then [02:20] If you want a live mirror you should be using either linux md RAID1, or a $500 raid card. [02:20] well, i'm definitely not using a $500 raid card [02:20] well, maybe "live raid".. isn't the exact word i was looking for. [02:21] maybe something that sync's once a day? [02:21] KM0201: if you want an archive of what the files were as at , you want something more like rsnapshot [02:21] hmm, ok.. well, hold that thought, i'll be back in 2min. [02:21] Which is the hard disk equivalent of rotating incremental tape archives. [02:28] so... rsnapshot? [02:31] It depends whether your goal is disaster recovery or archival [02:32] or live redundancy [02:32] Delerium_: I was folding that into DRP [02:33] twb, k ;) We often have our own wording depending of the infrastructes [02:33] er.. infrastructures [02:33] What I would do would be something like md RAID1 a pair of disks, then on it have /boot md0, LVM PV md1, LV root filesystem and LV rsnapshot filesystem. rsnapshot performs a nightly cp -al and rsync from the former two to the latter, you end up with incremental daily/weekly/monthly/yearly archives, and up to one disk can die. [02:34] To guard against *real* disasters (as oppose to SPOF of a HDD); I would probably also/instead have rsnapshot backing up to an offsite medium. [02:35] offsite or online backup is always good, incase of lightening strikes and other power issues [02:36] I was thinking more "building burns down" [02:36] twb: this is a simple file server man... lol, i just want a mirror of the drive in case of drive failure, i back up to a large USB drive once a week also, so.. [02:37] KM0201: well, that sounds more like RAID1 [02:37] twb: ok, how would i set that up? [02:37] ya, but power issues taking out all drives is more common than buildings, I would think [02:37] KM0201: you need to do it at install time [02:37] oh really? [02:37] hmmm, [02:37] ok. [02:37] (Technically you can probably do it post-facto, but it's a huge pain in the arse) [02:37] it's easiest at install time :) [02:37] Mainly because grub is such a bastard [02:38] gotcha, so when its asking all that install crazyness, choose a "raid" [02:38] i remember seeing that during the install process. [02:38] KM0201: when it asks you about HDD partitioning, you need to choose "manual" and set up the disks appropriately. [02:38] right. [02:38] i've done manual set up a lot. [02:38] Unfortunately there is no "Automatic - use RAID1 entire hard disks" choice [02:39] understood. [02:39] I should probably complain about that to the d-i maintainers -- surely 2×RAID1 and 3×RAID5 are common enough occurrences to automate [02:40] Speaking of HDD management, I didn't check lately, does ZFS makes its way to Linux!? [02:41] ZFS has the cuddle of death [02:41] Wait for BTRFS [02:42] hummm BTRFS is from Oracle, right? [02:42] Technically both zfs and btrfs are from oracle. [02:42] well, other than rsnapshot, i think i got all this figured out [02:42] KM0201: rsnapshot is not very complex; it basically just does a nightly cp -al, then rsync [02:43] twb: and i can schedule that? [02:43] i guss my final question is (and i'm pretty sure i know the answer..).. [02:44] should i install Ubuntu Server, onto a Thumb drive, the way I did freenas... or knock off about 10-15gigs of one of my drives, and put the OS there [02:46] rsnapshot is triggered by cron, so sure [02:46] i know squat about cron [02:46] Ubuntu will run off a USB key, though not very fast for writes [02:46] It makes e.g. "apt-get update" a pain in the arse [02:47] well, honestly, i dont plan on updating this, etc.. [02:47] i might even go through my router, and block the server from accessing the internet [02:47] I would probably allocate 256MB /boot, 2 to 8GiB / and (to begin with) 128GiB /srv for your data [02:47] ooh i'm not gonna do all that craziness [02:47] Assuming you're using LVM, you can expand the latter two as needed. [02:48] twb, LVM can't expend /boot ?! [02:48] (just wondering...) [02:48] Delerium_: not if it's not on LVM [02:49] twb, make sense [02:49] And IMO it is more dangerous than helpful to put /boot on LVM, particularly since it should have negligible growth -- 256MB is enough for (say) a dozen kernels. [02:49] twb, but can Linux boot on a LV ? [02:49] grub2 can boot from a RAID1 LVM /boot, at least, but it's flaky and fugly. [02:50] twb, thanks ... I was a SysAdmin in the past, but I now mostly support Middleware product... I'm just trying to catch up with all those lost years.. [02:53] ok, downloading the server ISO [02:53] A mini.iso will be faster, because it'll only download what you need [02:53] hmm, good point [02:54] twb: that doesnt seem to be working. i think i need to property setup static address.. i have the hdd right now in a machine that has a head, however the HDD will go to a headless machine when it starts working [02:54] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso [02:54] cjohnston: OK [02:54] cjohnston: so what do you need help with? [02:54] i'm gnna use 11.04 [02:54] KM0201: I recommend you deploy LTS in production [02:54] twb: naa. [02:55] Shrug. On your own head be it. [02:55] i'll deploy LTS when 12.04 comes out. [02:55] yeah, i won't hold you accountable.. :) [02:55] i've been testing all this in vbox on 11.04 [02:55] twb: I have auto etho \ iface eth0 inet static \ address 192.168.1.100 \ netmask 255.255.255.0 [02:55] you know what though [02:55] i think i'm gonna do a server install, cuz i'm gonna try to set up a raid i think [02:55] twb: I guess there are network broadcast and gateway tha im not sure about [02:56] cjohnston: one moment [02:56] cjohnston: I think you only need address, netmask and gateway [02:56] (gateway only if you want to be able to access other networks.) [02:56] what would I put in gateway? the address of the router? [02:57] yes [02:58] ok... let me switch the hdd to the other computer and see if itll work [03:00] cjohnston: you should check /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules first [03:00] cjohnston: make sure the MAC for (say) eth0 is right [03:00] o [03:01] Or just delete that file entriely, which shoudl result in eth0 being the iface on next boot === ejat- is now known as ejat [03:07] twb: if i install server in a Raid1, is there a way to verify it is working properly, and is being properly mirrored to the "second" drive? [03:08] KM0201: cat /proc/mdstat [03:09] http://paste.debian.net/124729/ shows a synced three-disk RAID1 array, md0 /boot, md1 LVM [03:09] When the drives are out of sync, there will be a progress bar instead and an ETA. [03:10] hmm, ok [03:10] thanks [03:11] Note that immediately after install they *will* be syncing; this is because it has to sync even the unused blocks, because the md layer can't tell which blocks are important [03:11] ok... [03:11] (an ATA TRIM-like syscall to md, or btrfs' built in RAID layer, would fix that.) [03:12] hmm, ok. [03:12] Also, write-intent bitmaps are off, so if you reboot the box before the sync finishes, it'll start over again from scratch. [03:12] well, i'm gonna try it in vbox first... i hope it works. [03:12] *bitmaps are off _by default* [03:12] ok, thats good info, thanks [03:13] i think i'm gonna like this a lot better than FreeNas. [03:13] should've done it a while ago, but Freenas 8 finally pushed me over the edge [03:14] twb: and when i set up samba, i only need to set setup samba to see Drive 1, right? (since the server will handle syncing the two drives "behind the scenes") [03:15] KM0201: md RAID will mean your system sees three drives -- the sda and sdb low-level drives, and the md0 RAID pseudo drive. [03:15] Only the md drives will be mounted. [03:15] Samba itself doesn't care about that, because it just deals with the VFS layer -- i.e. files and directories, not drives. [03:16] ok.. === ejat- is now known as ejat [03:36] twb: got time for a quick question? [03:36] !ask [03:36] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [03:39] i know, i know, i didn't know if you were still here.. [03:39] ok [03:39] i've got scsi3 /swap, / and /media/Disk [03:40] scsi4, is currently unformatted. [03:40] i want scsi4, to be th emirror. [03:40] so i go up to "configure software raid" [03:41] then create MD device [03:41] raid 1, which is mirror. [03:42] now, this is where i get confused, its asking for "active devices in the raid1 array"... [03:42] it's set to 2.. (which is minimum) [03:42] i guess if i choose 3, then it will mirror the entire drive.. right? [03:44] KM0201: what scsi drives do you have ? [03:44] i'm testing this in vbox. [03:45] KM0201: uh, the two nodes should be your two hard disks [03:45] Or two partitions, one on each disk [03:45] You will need to move any data on those disks elsewhere before you do the install [03:45] ok. [03:45] right, i understand that (the virtual disks are blank) [03:49] hmm === cerber0s is now known as cerberos [04:32] twb: i don't ned to set up swap space to be mirroed do i?.. i just set my ext 4 / to mirror, and that was it. (but both drives have a swap partition) [04:36] twb: it worked! (at least in vbox) [04:36] now i just gotta do it again, and take detailed notes [05:46] hey guys. i want a root shell. vps i think. where i can do anything with root acces. install apps. do anything. do i need vps hosting . thats what i see always. i thing its just for hosting websites with some additional acces..? so what do i need. and i want a cheap one. 15 dollars / mo ? [05:47] jane1: take a look at http://prgmr.com [05:49] greppy is it yours? [05:52] hi, does anyone know if I need udev (udevd) on a VPS? [05:52] janel: If you need root shell access a VPS will work... There are lots of providers Linode.com, MediaTemple.com, Prgmr.com, VPS.net the list is long :) [05:53] greppy is it yours? [05:53] defunct: I suggest you keep it... udevd handles events and such [05:53] I personally love Linode. [05:53] greppy ahem [05:53] rww: I second that although MediaTemple gave me thousands of dollars in free hosting at OSCON :P [05:54] Free VPS even :P [05:54] janel: Probably not his and he is likely idling [05:54] rww: Can I PM you? [05:54] bkerensa: hrmm. I was hoping I could free up some memory by removing it [05:54] bkerensa: about? [05:55] rww: #ubuntu-server contributions :) [05:55] I've only been in here for four hours, but sure, why not. [05:55] jane1: no, but I am a customer of theirs :) [05:55] defunct: I would not suggest it... It does use a bit of memory but likely you can make other optimizations to reduce memory usage [05:56] janel: Linode has the best benchmarks and likely the most economical pricing model (Google) [05:56] bkerensa: alright, thank you :) [05:56] greppy if ineed 512 or ram. it will be? [05:57] defunct: Is your VPS for web stuff? [05:57] jane1: they offer that as an option, yes. [05:57] greppy 4 dollars + 512/64? [05:57] k [05:58] defunct: I just have lighhttpd running on it, but mostly it's for irc and and a ts3 server [05:59] defunct: but still, only 100mb ram free atm (from 512) [05:59] whoops meant bkerensa :P [06:00] defunct: No MySQL? [06:00] bkerensa: not yet, no php or mysql [06:00] bkerensa: hrmm I can probably shut off getty [06:01] defunct: Well just make sure your swap is good so you dont thrash [06:02] defunct: 1gb swap should do... [06:06] I'll just leave it all for now, until swamp is actually getting used, so far it hasn't [06:07] syslog 439 0.0 0.2 34452 1476 ? Sl Jul30 0:00 rsyslogd -c4 [06:07] doesn't syslog use like less than half of that normally [06:49] hallyn: around ? [06:57] lifeless: still banging away on it? [06:58] SpamapS: put ensemble on hold till apt is fixed (because ensemble wants oneiric) [06:58] SpamapS: but I plan to nab mvo soon to talk about the apt-key postinst script call [06:58] SpamapS: right now I'm running into [06:58] lxc-start: Device or resource busy - failed to remove previous cgroup [06:58] on start [06:58] after a clean vm boot [06:59] using cgroup-bin? [06:59] it is present, yes. [07:00] I have yet to be successful w/ that installed [07:00] worked fine on natty. Will try removing it. [07:00] it kindof sucks though, to have a nice helper and have it be incompatible. [07:01] so the thing I was trying next was back to 'why does echo /dev/null | sudo lxc-start -n ,,, -d ' reset my sudo password ticket [07:01] which I'm hoping oneiric fixes. [07:01] :-P === smb` is now known as smb [07:37] morning [07:52] Hi all, I have an udev rule: ACTION=="add", SYSFS{model}=="RD1000", NAME="RD1000%n" Now, when I insert the first RD1000 (internal), it becomes /dev/RD10001, I then insert the second RD1000 (usb), and it becomes... /dev/RD10001, while I was presuming the %n would make it RD10002. What am I grossly overlooking? === jamespage1 is now known as jamespage [09:36] <_ruben> hmm, what takes care of displaying the motd on login via ssh? PrintMotd in /etc/ssh/sshd_config is set to "no", yet it is displayed on each *first* login, tho i'd like to show it on *all* logins [10:21] SpamapS: yeah, removed cgroup-bin, works. >< >< >< >< >< >< >< [10:23] <_johnny> perhabs your keyboard is broken [10:51] why centos is considered a better server than ubuntu? [10:53] <_ruben> ask the centos ppl [10:54] whats your choice in ranking [10:55] <_ruben> 1. ubuntu [10:55] <_ruben> [10:55] <_ruben> never used centos [11:02] hm [11:02] fedora ? [11:02] _ruben [11:02] debian [11:02] <_ruben> in the past i've used slackware/debian/suse (roughly in that order) [11:03] The question "why centos is considered a better server than ubuntu?" is essentially meaningless, since it fails to specify who is doing the considering [11:03] I doubt most of us would be on this channel if we upheld that opinion [11:04] <_ruben> exactly [11:12] any suggestions for a domain name that has music, education, videos, students , chating , bloging... video chats. text chats.. etc. multi purpose communication . ? [11:14] _ruben: I suspect many people really appreciate the lack of predictable release schedule, and a not having much confidence in the future stability. [11:14] === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [11:15] <_ruben> Daviey: agreed :) [11:15] buenos dias [11:17] Ursinha: Salem! [11:18] any suggestions for a domain name that has music, education, videos, students , chating , bloging... video chats. text chats.. etc. multi purpose communication . ? [11:18] jane1: no [11:19] (you don't need to keep asking, people will respond if they do... ) [11:19] 'no' is nice but it makes a negative sence [11:19] oh ok. [11:19] Although, it is pretty Off Topic for here. [11:23] ya.. only the website is in ubuntu hosting [11:33] apt-get update [11:35] * _ruben redirects Shaggy2's terminal [11:36] <_ruben> jane1: music-education-videos-students-chating-bloging-videochats-textchats-etc-mulit-purpose-communication.{org,net,com,...} === bazhang__ is now known as bazhang [11:54] i have a script which runs /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server. when running the script from roots crontab it fails to start. [12:02] <_ruben> trapmax_: quite likely an environment varaible thing, like lack of /sbin in the path [12:06] k, thanks. i'll look into that [12:07] trapmax_: You may want to make sure that the cron line is running at all, check /var/log/syslog for an entry. [12:10] Pici: i used "0 * * * * /path/to/my/script > /path/to/script/log", and got nfs output as log, so i know it ran, but errors were sent via email concerning the modprobe and start-stop-daemons. it would make sense that env vars are not set properly [12:12] trapmax_: Put 2>&1 at the end of that. That will ensure that anything that was sent to stderr will be redirected to stdout, which you've already directed to the logfile. [12:19] Pici [12:19] any suggestions for a domain name that has music, education, videos, students , chating , bloging... video chats. text chats.. etc. multi purpose communication . ? something that have hub or communications... gatway... [12:20] jane1: no. And I don't understand what that question has to do with Ubuntu either. [12:20] its offtopic [12:20] and thx [12:21] jane1: Try #ubuntu-offtopic then [12:21] no response [12:22] <_ruben> probably noone cares there either :) [12:22] ya [12:51] hi [12:51] Can someone help with krb5 and nfs4? [12:51] when i touch a file on the mount, it is owned by nobody, even when the user has his kerberos ticket and a ticket for the nfs-server principal [12:53] what is the ram and proccesor requirments for ubuntu server? [12:54] jane1, the base system will boot and run in 256 [12:54] after that, it really depends on what you're hoping to do with it. [12:55] gui . gnome or kde will run in 256 too ? [12:56] smoser ? [12:56] jane1, i dont really know. gnome or kde are not really ubuntu server. [12:56] i only have 256 of ram at a vps. need to run apache, mysql, and an ircd. will do ? [12:56] jane1, most certainly people do that. [12:57] jit wil run [12:57] ? [12:57] those people don't run cnn.com or slashdot.org [12:57] but it will run. [12:58] jane1: yes, it will run [12:58] if you expect high load, get a better server [12:59] jane1, i would suggest not running an X stack there though [12:59]