| MarkDude | grantbow, I am headed to Scala | 01:05 |
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| grantbow | nice, me too | 01:06 |
| === DonkeyHotei is now known as sn9 | ||
| MarkDude | Hey there iheartubuntu | 01:51 |
| iheartubuntu | hey hey, whats new | 01:52 |
| MarkDude | I have happy plants- they survived my trip to Portland | 01:52 |
| iheartubuntu | wow! | 01:52 |
| MarkDude | Last 2 years they died during my absence | 01:52 |
| iheartubuntu | has it been cooler there? its been for the most part, nice and comfortable down here | 01:52 |
| MarkDude | Here too- I know it helped to not have 100+ | 01:53 |
| akk | The cape gooseberries (including the seedlings in pots) all did great while I was in LA. | 01:53 |
| MarkDude | Right on akk | 01:53 |
| iheartubuntu | my dad is nursing my gooseberry | 01:53 |
| MarkDude | Some of mine cut back on blooms | 01:53 |
| akk | 2 weeks away, and I was afraid they wouldn't have enough water to last, but they look very healthy. | 01:53 |
| MarkDude | They are super tough | 01:53 |
| iheartubuntu | ive leveled my garden | 01:53 |
| MarkDude | They can hold off flowering and wait til more water | 01:53 |
| akk | Also, two of my spider plants are actually putting out spiders! Great excitement. | 01:54 |
| sn9 | meeting night? | 01:55 |
| akk | sn9: Aw, you mean you want us to talk about ubuntu and not gardening? | 01:56 |
| sn9 | i have reduced relevance in a different category | 01:56 |
| MarkDude | Its not meeting time yet | 01:57 |
| sn9 | it's almost 8pm here | 01:57 |
| MarkDude | Your relevance is rife with discussion possibilities sn9 | 01:57 |
| MarkDude | ;D | 01:57 |
| MarkDude | 2 minutes and counting | 01:58 |
| grantbow | horse shoes and hand grenades? | 01:58 |
| MarkDude | Sitting next to Dangerous MFing grantbow at moment | 01:58 |
| pleia2 | hi everyone :) | 02:00 |
| pleia2 | #startmeeting | 02:00 |
| iheartubuntu | hiya lyz | 02:00 |
| pleia2 | Agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11July31 | 02:00 |
| jyo | hihi | 02:00 |
| pleia2 | who all is here for the meeting? | 02:00 |
| pleia2 | o/ | 02:00 |
| jyo | o/ | 02:00 |
| eps | with silver bells and cockle shells | 02:00 |
| pleia2 | oh no, MarkDude and grantbow sitting together irl for the meeting | 02:00 |
| akk | o/ | 02:00 |
| pleia2 | :) | 02:01 |
| grantbow | lol | 02:01 |
| pleia2 | ok, we'll jump right in then | 02:01 |
| pleia2 | (we'll do announcements at the end) | 02:01 |
| pleia2 | [TOPIC] Final review of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/ApprovalApplication2011 | 02:01 |
| pleia2 | we've reviewed this a few times at meetings and on the mailing list so I think we're ready to submit it, but I just wanted to double-check no one else had comments | 02:01 |
| rww | \o | 02:02 |
| philipballew | here! | 02:02 |
| akk | oh, good, some red people. xchat was showing everybody else who's here as light blue or green. | 02:02 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 02:02 |
| rww | pleia2: looks fine to me | 02:02 |
| rww | (and yes, I actually read it this time :P) | 02:03 |
| pleia2 | thanks rww :) | 02:03 |
| pleia2 | I'll add it to the council agenda and send a note to the list when the meeting is going to be | 02:03 |
| pleia2 | [TOPIC] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Picnix20 planning | 02:04 |
| eps | akk: I see dim people | 02:04 |
| pleia2 | we actually only have one more meeting before the end of august when this happens, but I'm not particularly worried - we've done this before :) | 02:04 |
| pleia2 | I'll nudge aaditya for our table number, but we pretty much just need to get our list-of-stuff to bring sorted and we'll be good for the picnic | 02:04 |
| grantbow | great | 02:05 |
| eps | I'm worried ... the last message I saw about the picnic was dated July 16 ... | 02:05 |
| grantbow | worry not :-) | 02:05 |
| eps | ... it said the reservation database was supposed to open two weeks ago now | 02:06 |
| eps | It hasn't happened. :-( | 02:06 |
| pleia2 | eps: aaditya is the organizer this year, might nudge him about it | 02:06 |
| eps | Their wiki looks like it hasn't been touched since March. | 02:06 |
| MarkDude | Are there cookies on list again? | 02:06 |
| * rww ponders pretending to be a mootbot to make pleia2 happy :P | 02:07 | |
| * MarkDude is cookie monster | 02:07 | |
| grantbow | eps: please talk to aditya with concerns. I would appreciate your effort on this temendously | 02:07 |
| eps | *I* am not the organizer. | 02:07 |
| pleia2 | MarkDude: heather said she'd make ubuntu cookies :) and I'm making android cookies! | 02:07 |
| grantbow | eps: aaditya is | 02:07 |
| pleia2 | eps: our table is set for the picnic, so there aren't really organizational concerns for the california team specifically | 02:08 |
| pleia2 | if you have personal questions about registration, aaditya is the one to talk to | 02:08 |
| eps | The concern is whether there's even going to be a picnic, since there has been *nothing* online ... not on their wiki, facebook, mailing list, anything as far as I can see. | 02:09 |
| pleia2 | there is | 02:09 |
| MarkDude | pleia2, fair enough- as long as cookies are represented | 02:09 |
| pleia2 | MarkDude :) | 02:09 |
| pleia2 | anyway, if anyone is bringing things they can add them to the wiki page (I also made a loco directory event, you can rsvp there if you want, I'll add the picnic rsvp to the site once it's active): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Picnix20 | 02:10 |
| pleia2 | [TOPIC] Announcements, comments, other topics | 02:10 |
| pleia2 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam is happening Sept 2-4, Labor day weekend | 02:11 |
| pleia2 | no one has anything planned yet, but if you want to plan something now is the time to start :) | 02:11 |
| pleia2 | (I'll be out of town) | 02:11 |
| philipballew | so cal will *probably have one | 02:12 |
| pleia2 | I suspect jono will have one in walnut creek | 02:12 |
| * philipballew needs to get his act together on it | 02:12 | |
| pleia2 | :) | 02:12 |
| * MarkDude will be down south for wedding then, and OLF for the next | 02:12 | |
| rww | I'll be in college starting craziness then, so count me out :( | 02:13 |
| pleia2 | oh, berkeleylug and partimus reserved a booth at solano stroll the OLF weekend (Sept 11th) so that's upcoming in september too | 02:13 |
| grantbow | I will be preparing for a trip but will attend. | 02:13 |
| MarkDude | Damn, that is fun, I dont want to miss the stroll | 02:13 |
| pleia2 | MarkDude: sorry :) I didn't realize it either until beth lynn pointed it out to me while we were planning the partimus bit | 02:14 |
| pleia2 | so many events, so little time | 02:14 |
| MarkDude | Speaking in Ohio then | 02:14 |
| grantbow | indeed | 02:14 |
| grantbow | more clones | 02:14 |
| philipballew | i will be to rww , but if its on a saturday or something no class in session | 02:14 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 02:14 |
| pleia2 | anyone else have announcements or other things? | 02:14 |
| rww | philipballew: gonna be my first semester there, so I'll be busy anyway :) | 02:15 |
| philipballew | oh nice :) good luck wherever it is rww | 02:15 |
| MarkDude | where is it rww? | 02:16 |
| pleia2 | ok, I think we'll wrap up the meeting then | 02:16 |
| pleia2 | going once..! | 02:16 |
| MarkDude | Wait | 02:17 |
| * MarkDude had his penguin suit disappear at OSCON | 02:17 | |
| pleia2 | oh dear | 02:17 |
| MarkDude | keep eye out for it | 02:17 |
| MarkDude | I know | 02:17 |
| MarkDude | I will email list- | 02:17 |
| pleia2 | ok | 02:17 |
| pleia2 | #endmeeting | 02:17 |
| pleia2 | thanks everyone | 02:17 |
| * philipballew will chase anyone down he sees in a penguin suit | 02:17 | |
| rww | MarkDude: How was the Fedora booth at OSCON? | 02:17 |
| MarkDude | ok thats all- its been a bit stressful | 02:17 |
| akk | Dang! I never got to see MarkDude wearing the suit. | 02:17 |
| grantbow | thanks pleia2 | 02:18 |
| * rww was chatting with someone else who went the other day | 02:18 | |
| MarkDude | it was great | 02:18 |
| MarkDude | as was Ubuntu's | 02:18 |
| MarkDude | they had full staff as well as Ryan Singer there | 02:18 |
| MarkDude | Oregon team will be official soon also | 02:18 |
| pleia2 | woohoo oregon | 02:19 |
| rww | MarkDude: nice | 02:20 |
| MarkDude | Is nice not to be acting lead anymore | 02:21 |
| rww | MarkDude: how on earth did you lose a penguin suit | 02:21 |
| MarkDude | was kinda wierd | 02:21 |
| MarkDude | rww they had no coatrack | 02:21 |
| eps | Were you wearing it at the time? Is there video? | 02:21 |
| MarkDude | so it was at entrance | 02:21 |
| MarkDude | there are video before | 02:21 |
| philipballew | pleia2 does anyone have a global jam planned for so cal? | 02:24 |
| pleia2 | philipballew: not currently | 02:25 |
| iheartubuntu | phil are you going to be down in socal with school again? | 02:26 |
| philipballew | well If noone has any plan for one, I can easily find a place to do one at. yeah iheartubuntu i leave here in a few weeks | 02:26 |
| iheartubuntu | if there is one in SD i could make the trip | 02:27 |
| philipballew | i was thinking on say a saturday, because we all have work during the week | 02:27 |
| iheartubuntu | or we could plan something a bit more north if nathan would be avail | 02:27 |
| philipballew | that would work. if nathan is down | 02:27 |
| iheartubuntu | im planning a new UbuntuOne to coincide with the claremont colleges starting up again.. right now its a ghost town | 02:28 |
| pleia2 | Ubuntu Hour? :) | 02:28 |
| iheartubuntu | ohh yah | 02:28 |
| iheartubuntu | :) | 02:29 |
| philipballew | im not sure the type of place that the global jam should be held at | 02:29 |
| philipballew | haha | 02:29 |
| pleia2 | philipballew: since people need to have computers and internet it has to be some place that's friendly to that sort of thing | 02:29 |
| iheartubuntu | i think nathan is working on a new ubuntu one :) | 02:29 |
| pleia2 | we do it at a pizzeria, but jdeslip knows the owners and are aware of frequent berkeleylug meetings | 02:29 |
| iheartubuntu | i'll stick with ubuntu hours | 02:29 |
| philipballew | but like how many people would you expect to show up? | 02:30 |
| pleia2 | 1 or 100 :) | 02:30 |
| pleia2 | depends on the venue, timing, area... | 02:30 |
| pleia2 | the biggest one I've hosted was about 30 people, was in an office building back in philly | 02:30 |
| iheartubuntu | ive been exploring downtown LA a bunch lately... seems like a ton of tech people around there... i think it might be an interesting experiment since a bunch of metro lines converge in downtown | 02:31 |
| pleia2 | the berkeleylug ones tend to be standard berkeleylug turnout, 5-12 people | 02:31 |
| pleia2 | if you don't have the space you can limit registration though | 02:31 |
| philipballew | haha, true, so a coffee shop I have help host the ubuntu hours there might be to small | 02:31 |
| pleia2 | depends on how friendly the coffee shop is to you taking up space with laptops and internet :) | 02:32 |
| philipballew | if i get there at a "non-meal" time and call ahead and say 10-20 people will be here and buying food, I dont see how they can turn that down | 02:33 |
| philipballew | unless nhaines has any global jam planes\ | 02:34 |
| pleia2 | jyo: are you editing the meeting agenda page? | 02:35 |
| philipballew | ill email darkwing and kevin and see what their ideas are | 02:36 |
| iheartubuntu | phil, please keep me informed of any updates | 02:37 |
| philipballew | iheartubuntu, emails sent. ill tweet you if i get anything probably | 02:41 |
| iheartubuntu | ok awesome thanks | 02:41 |
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| pleia2 | g 102 | 02:42 |
| pleia2 | oops | 02:42 |
| iheartubuntu | like a g102 | 02:46 |
| iheartubuntu | its better than a g6 | 02:46 |
| MarkDude | fly like that <<<< yep | 02:46 |
| philipballew | feelin so fly! | 02:46 |
| MarkDude | True. | 02:47 |
| jyo | pleia2: Nay. | 02:48 |
| iheartubuntu | wait til its friday | 02:49 |
| iheartubuntu | gotta have my cereal | 02:50 |
| philipballew | that represents american consumerism | 02:50 |
| philipballew | and the back seat is a metaphor for American forgen policy | 02:51 |
| iheartubuntu | cruisin so fast, i want time to fly (in my g6) | 02:51 |
| philipballew | maybe the ubuntu ca group needs to go see them in concert | 02:52 |
| philipballew | ...not Rebekkah black | 02:52 |
| philipballew | haha | 02:52 |
| philipballew | iheartubuntu, did you ever think about the game night thing? | 02:53 |
| iheartubuntu | i have a list of a bunch of games some place, but the overall feel of my list is pointing to first person shooter multiplayer | 02:54 |
| philipballew | urben terror is nice | 02:55 |
| philipballew | would somebody be running a server of the game someone picks? | 02:55 |
| iheartubuntu | i think an MMORPG or whatever its called like Regnum Online would be a lot of fun since we can all see each other and we can all be on the same team. there are no limits to amount of players, etc | 02:55 |
| philipballew | seemes like a good idea | 02:57 |
| iheartubuntu | how often should we do it? once a month? twice a month... for an hour or two after each meeting would be nice | 02:57 |
| philipballew | we could go against other distros! haha | 02:58 |
| philipballew | it could just always be on and whoever wants to play can play and we also have planned nights | 02:58 |
| iheartubuntu | ok, i'll clean up my list of games, and create a pro/con list for each game and have this ready for next team meeting here in two weeks | 02:59 |
| philipballew | ill back you up on it | 02:59 |
| iheartubuntu | for anyone running an Ubuntu Hour, i recommend posting to forums, mailing list, etc 3 or 4 days before. I notice more people when i do this | 03:00 |
| iheartubuntu | last pasadena UH was 8 people because of this. when i sent these notes out the day of the UH it was just 4 people | 03:01 |
| akk | Yeah, it's always kind of jarring to hear about an ubuntu hour happening in 3 hours that you never knew about before ... | 03:01 |
| iheartubuntu | ok PB | 03:01 |
| iheartubuntu | akk - yah this way people can plan for it better | 03:02 |
| philipballew | i think the mailing list can be limiting somewhat due to not many people being on it iheartubuntu | 03:02 |
| akk | The mailing list is the best way, for me -- if it's on twitter or facebook or something, I'll only see it if I happen to check in at the right time. | 03:02 |
| pleia2 | twitter has over 1000 followers, far more than any of our other resources | 03:02 |
| iheartubuntu | its just one method. scribble out 10-15 ideas how to promote a UH and implement 3-5 of them. | 03:02 |
| pleia2 | but anything we put in the loco directory is posted on twitter the day of | 03:03 |
| rww | except it's twitter, so 99% of them are spammers or people who don't actually check their account :P | 03:04 |
| pleia2 | maybe 10% | 03:04 |
| MarkDude | Happy reminder for MLs day- its starting now | 03:04 |
| pleia2 | lots of people are real :) | 03:04 |
| pleia2 | MarkDude: hah, yeah, I was like "it's august!?" | 03:05 |
| philipballew | what about facebook? how often is that updated? | 03:05 |
| rww | twitter user retention after a month is about 40% | 03:05 |
| pleia2 | rww: I was trying to balance your made up statistic with one of my own, in the other direction | 03:06 |
| MarkDude | Coreboot is in Denmark- so they are 1st for me | 03:06 |
| rww | pleia2: hehe | 03:06 |
| pleia2 | :D | 03:06 |
| rww | philipballew: aiui, the team Facebook, Twitter, and identi.ca are all updated identically often | 03:06 |
| pleia2 | yeah, it's automatically cross-posted | 03:06 |
| akk | Just remember, 78.6% of all statistics are made up. | 03:07 |
| MarkDude | akk lol | 03:07 |
| philipballew | twitter is the best social medium today imo | 03:07 |
| rww | word of mouth is the best social medium :P | 03:07 |
| MarkDude | lol | 03:07 |
| akk | I have no idea what % of twitter followers are bots/spammers; but even of the real people, not all of them will be monitoring at any given time. | 03:07 |
| akk | IRC is the best social medium. :) | 03:07 |
| philipballew | i get ubuntu ca tweets sent to my cell phone | 03:08 |
| rww | philipballew: nerd! | 03:08 |
| pleia2 | heheh | 03:08 |
| * rww used to get IRC highlights sent to his cellphone >.> | 03:08 | |
| akk | I see tweets if 1. I'm at the computer 2. I'm not busy working on stuff and 3. xchat hasn't forgotten its marker line again, so I can see where the new tweets start | 03:08 |
| philipballew | do we have a g+ account yet? | 03:11 |
| jyo | There's no org g+ accounts yet, right? | 03:11 |
| akk | I think that's right. | 03:12 |
| pleia2 | right | 03:12 |
| rww | Company g+ accounts are in closed don't-ask-us-we'll-ask-you trial. | 03:15 |
| rww | e.g. https://plus.google.com/114277687548103339609 | 03:15 |
| pleia2 | ah :) | 03:15 |
| jyo | I think I'm going to organize my circles by affilation and geographical locations. | 03:16 |
| philipballew | mine are all in following myself i think | 03:16 |
| philipballew | does anyone know how I can tell what a program is written in so I can know how to complie the tarball? | 03:31 |
| grantbow | try running strings on it | 03:33 |
| rww | philipballew: so you have some source code files and want to know what language it is? 'file' command. | 03:33 |
| philipballew | yeah. i downloaded the humblee inde bundle! and 2 of the games come in tar.bz | 03:34 |
| philipballew | *tar.gz | 03:36 |
| rww | so extract them and run the files inside? | 03:40 |
| iheartubuntu | usually inside is an installer file... like cogs.bin or whatever | 03:41 |
| philipballew | there is just a launcher to run the program | 03:42 |
| jyo | Is there a compile-it-yourself discount version? :) | 03:42 |
| philipballew | its really weird | 03:42 |
| philipballew | i ususlly only pay a penny to download them and pay more when i get them running. | 03:42 |
| philipballew | im thinking 10 dollars | 03:42 |
| iheartubuntu | i paid $15 for bundle #1, $15 for #2 and eeeeekkkk only $5 for #3. im trying to budget my mulah these days | 03:48 |
| philipballew | i didnt have any money for 1 therefor didnt get it and never found a url for it | 03:48 |
| philipballew | iheartubuntu, how did you install the tarballs for 3? | 03:49 |
| iheartubuntu | i have only had time for Cogs so far.. and it had an installer | 03:49 |
| iheartubuntu | these tar games though i have never figured out how to install... just run the game. | 03:50 |
| iheartubuntu | you could put the extracted tar in a games directory and then create a desktop or menu link | 03:50 |
| iheartubuntu | thats my lazy way :) | 03:50 |
| philipballew | the thing i dont understand is the tarballs dont have a way to make. check install like most tarballs | 03:51 |
| nhaines | The Ubuntu Font Family now has a compressed font available. (for a certain value of available.) | 18:24 |
| pleia2 | nice | 18:25 |
| nhaines | I'm not really sure what I'd use it for. :) But it's not bad. | 18:25 |
| * MarkDude plans to use it on a few Fedora items, want to see if anyone notices ;D | 18:28 | |
| pleia2 | lol | 18:33 |
| * negronjl is away: out to lunch | 18:33 | |
| pleia2 | negronjl: please don't use public away messages here | 18:33 |
| negronjl | pleia2: sorry...didn't know they'll get posted on _every_ channel. | 18:33 |
| * MarkDude is watering garden, but is monitoring :) | 18:34 | |
| pleia2 | it'll get you kicked from -meeting | 18:34 |
| pleia2 | and -classroom | 18:34 |
| pleia2 | so you should probably turn it off :) | 18:34 |
| negronjl | pleia2: will do | 18:34 |
| * MarkDude got heads up a while ago on changing nicks | 18:34 | |
| MarkDude | :) | 18:34 |
| MarkDude | Hmmm, every channel. | 18:35 |
| nhaines | I was hoping for hinted Ubuntu Monospace. :( Unhinted is beautiful in Ubuntu and in PuTTY on Windows it *almost* makes that a pleasant experience except Windows XP apparently uses the Windows 3.0 font renderer or something because it is *ugly*. :) | 18:35 |
| MarkDude | pleia2, is awesome. She is very helpful on cluing folks in | 18:35 |
| * MarkDude included ;) | 18:35 | |
| akk | There's always a need for better monospace fonts. Especially sans-serif ones. | 18:36 |
| * pleia2 nods | 18:36 | |
| akk | Especially if they have a wide selection of characters (accented, emdashes etc.) | 18:37 |
| akk | That's still a problem with a lot of the monospace fonts. | 18:37 |
| nhaines | Ubuntu Monospace is beautiful. The difference in Evolution was instant. | 18:40 |
| nhaines | Unfortunately, the font size is annoying. :) | 18:40 |
| akk | Fonts are so frustrating -- they render so differently on every screen and distro, so I have to go through a long selection process with every machine+distro. | 18:42 |
| akk | I wish I could just pick a font that looks nice and has an aspect ratio I like, and use that everywhere, maybe just changing the size slightly | 18:42 |
| akk | but with most fonts, changing the size drastically changes how it renders and what its aspect ratio is. | 18:43 |
| bkerensa | Hi All | 18:50 |
| bkerensa | :) | 18:50 |
| pleia2 | g'day bkerensa | 18:50 |
| * bkerensa used to be a Californian | 18:50 | |
| * bkerensa is now a Califoregonian | 18:50 | |
| akk | Close enough. :) | 18:52 |
| * bkerensa was born in the Sac | 18:59 | |
| bkerensa | :P | 18:59 |
| MarkDude | bkerensa, is now lead for Oregon | 18:59 |
| MarkDude | And also a badass | 18:59 |
| MarkDude | :) | 18:59 |
| pleia2 | oh good, I'm glad that got sorted :) | 19:00 |
| MarkDude | Yes, remote management is less than ideal at times | 19:01 |
| bkerensa | lol | 19:05 |
| bkerensa | Spotufy needs to fix their repo | 19:06 |
| bkerensa | =/ | 19:06 |
| bkerensa | Spotify even | 19:06 |
| bkerensa | pleia2: Your council? If so I wanna pick your brain sometime :) | 19:13 |
| bkerensa | :) | 20:18 |
| locodir-user | hey all | 21:33 |
| locodir-user | I dont know if im in the right place but I need some help with a shell script | 21:33 |
| locodir-user | any volunteers | 21:34 |
| philipballew | has anyone here ever installed ubuntu to a mac ever? | 23:16 |
| akk | I've seen the husband do it. Don't own a mac myself. | 23:17 |
| philipballew | friend gave me a mac to install it on akk it doesnt install the typical way as i keep getting an error when i boot from the cd saying unable to find a medium containing a live file system” error when installing | 23:19 |
| philipballew | which seemes odd myself | 23:20 |
| philipballew | ubuntu mac needs an irc haha | 23:21 |
| MarkDude | It depends on exact arch with it philipballew | 23:22 |
| * MarkDude has seen it done | 23:22 | |
| MarkDude | in a few ways- and am not talking about old PPC arch either | 23:23 |
| philipballew | MarkDude, well the laptop has 4 gigs ram so 64 bit seems the best way | 23:23 |
| * MarkDude does not know how to do it however | 23:23 | |
| philipballew | theres a mac wiki on ubuntu.com i looked at for a few minutes | 23:23 |
| pleia2 | I suspect MarkDude meant ppc vs x86 macs | 23:24 |
| pleia2 | but if it has 4G of ram it's not ppc | 23:24 |
| MarkDude | Well even with *86 - I have seen the tools vary | 23:25 |
| MarkDude | sexycatsin hats is expert on this | 23:25 |
| pleia2 | we installed ubuntu on a macbook at an ubuntu hour once, it wasn't a problem | 23:25 |
| pleia2 | but yeah, it uses that boot thing in the beginning which can be weird | 23:25 |
| philipballew | effi or something i think it said pleia2 . i guess i have to boot into osx and install that probably | 23:26 |
| pleia2 | I've only ever installed linux on old ppc macs | 23:27 |
| jyo | Is there some EFI funkiness with the install? | 23:28 |
| philipballew | me as well, done it 3 times this month. osx is way to locked down | 23:28 |
| philipballew | jyo, not sure. its different then pc instals haha | 23:28 |
| kdub_ | philipballew: i dunno if i can do a full day bug jam | 23:29 |
| kdub_ | maybe for a bit in the morning or something | 23:30 |
| kdub_ | that, and i need to coordinate schedules, see if i can even do that :P | 23:30 |
| philipballew | I would assume morning is best time for anything haha | 23:30 |
| philipballew | darkwing said he wants to do alot of that planning for it and get some people to come | 23:32 |
| kdub_ | yeah, life's been hectic over here the last few months | 23:33 |
| akk | I think on macs you have to press a key (c?) to boot from a live cd. | 23:34 |
| philipballew | sorry bout that kdub_ work stressful? | 23:34 |
| akk | There used to be severe EFI problems but supposedly those have been fixed with grub2. | 23:34 |
| philipballew | akk yeah, thats when i get the funky error. i might just try a different cd and see what i get with that | 23:34 |
| akk | (the one thing grub2 is better at than grub1 ...) | 23:34 |
| kdub_ | philipballew: nah, lots of other things though. plus its summer in SD, outside calls | 23:35 |
| philipballew | i hear this summer is nice weather | 23:36 |
| philipballew | akk is it always gonna be the slowest speed is best on burning? | 23:36 |
| philipballew | i always do 10x | 23:36 |
| akk | I always try to use the slowest speed -- I have really bad luck with burning. | 23:42 |
| akk | But mostly linux cd burning apps ignore anything you tell them about speed anyway, and do whatever they feel like doing. | 23:42 |
| philipballew | haha, k3b is what i use. its good for most things i need | 23:44 |
| akk | k3b definitely did that, ignored what I told it about speed | 23:47 |
| akk | back when I could use it -- now it has a hundred requirements I don't want to install, so I quit using it | 23:47 |
| philipballew | what do you use? akk | 23:52 |
| akk | honestly, I can't remember -- the last few times I burned CDs I used cdrecord, and before that, I think maybe I used the xfce one (xfburn?) | 23:53 |
| akk | but I have such terrible luck with CDs, I've pretty much stopped even trying to burn them. | 23:53 |
| akk | I used to do it maybe once a year, and I would discover that my CD drive had stopped working since the last time | 23:53 |
| akk | and I'd either buy a new cable or a new cd drive, and it would work, and I'd be good for another 6-12 months 'til the next time. | 23:54 |
| akk | And they don't last long anyway, and USB sticks are so much smaller to carry around. | 23:54 |
| philipballew | cd's are becoming out of date in some regard | 23:55 |
| kdub_ | cds are way out of date | 23:57 |
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