| snap-l | jrwren: Coolness. | 01:07 |
|---|---|---|
| snap-l | jrwren: Coming to CHC on Wednesday? | 01:07 |
| jrwren | probably not, but maybe i'll get away | 02:09 |
| jrwren | when is mug? this week or next? | 02:10 |
| rick_h_ | 2nd tues | 02:10 |
| jrwren | so next week. cool. | 02:10 |
| rick_h_ | hmm, what was that speaker rating site that was going around for a while? | 02:19 |
| snap-l | Not sure. | 02:23 |
| brousch | i'm frickin tired. who has coffee for me? | 11:43 |
| rick_h_ | no kidding....dragggggggging | 11:53 |
| snap-l | I have coffee, but it'll be a bitch to ship | 11:58 |
| brousch | rick_h_ and snap-l: you both missed out on winning a book at lightning talks | 11:58 |
| snap-l | Bah | 11:58 |
| snap-l | Which books? | 11:58 |
| brousch | there was a tab;e full of them | 11:58 |
| snap-l | Ah, so winner's choice? | 11:58 |
| brousch | righ | 11:58 |
| brousch | wow, my typing is not good today | 11:59 |
| brousch | seemed like everything from apress and no starch | 11:59 |
| snap-l | Yeah, they seemed pretty well represented. | 12:00 |
| brousch | i picked PYthon for android using sl4a | 12:00 |
| brousch | http://www.apress.com/9781430235699 | 12:01 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: hah, oh well | 12:01 |
| rick_h_ | nice | 12:02 |
| snap-l | brousch: Nice! | 12:02 |
| rick_h_ | congrats | 12:02 |
| snap-l | DIdn't know that book existed. | 12:02 |
| snap-l | Will need a review. Expecially on Amazon, sice it isn't there. ;) | 12:02 |
| snap-l | (any reviews, that is) | 12:03 |
| brousch | wow, weird | 12:03 |
| brousch | been out almost a month according to the apress page | 12:04 |
| snap-l | Well, that too and I stopped getting their newsletter. | 12:04 |
| snap-l | for a while they didn't have much in the way of Python coming out | 12:05 |
| snap-l | and then they drop books like that, and the update to Foundations of Network Python Programming | 12:05 |
| brousch | i got home at midnight. i think the left side of my brain is still sleeping. that half of my head feels heavy | 12:12 |
| snap-l | heh | 12:13 |
| * greg-g waves at all the PyOhio folks | 12:20 | |
| snap-l | Hey greg-g! Sorry we couldn't make your party last night | 12:21 |
| greg-g | no worries, bad timing/weekend for you pythonistas | 12:21 |
| === ptenhoopen__ is now known as ptenhoopen | ||
| rick_h_ | greg-g: you're up early post-party | 12:29 |
| greg-g | rick_h_: you're telling me | 12:41 |
| greg-g | I about over slept. Was so tired that I set my alarm for 6:30pm. Woke up at 7:20 and rushed to go pay rent and get to the office by 8am | 12:41 |
| ptenhoopen | rick_h_: I liked your SQLAlchemy presentation. It was also fun trying to help out on the Bookie sprint even though we spent most of our time setting up! | 12:44 |
| rick_h_ | ptenhoopen: awesome! Glad you liked the talk. | 12:44 |
| rick_h_ | ptenhoopen: yea, but it was good. Even those that just set it up I think learned a little bit on some new things | 12:45 |
| rick_h_ | not many people had done the virtualenv/bootstrap things and the fabric commands for helping to get things running | 12:45 |
| ptenhoopen | Exactly! | 12:45 |
| rick_h_ | so hopefully it was useful for both me/them | 12:45 |
| ptenhoopen | It was. | 12:45 |
| rick_h_ | as I learned I have some very weak points in my setup | 12:45 |
| rick_h_ | and I've already started to redo some docs and update some of the scripts | 12:45 |
| ptenhoopen | I'll be happy to test them. | 12:46 |
| rick_h_ | really appreciate everyone that helped with it. I still had fun :) | 12:46 |
| rick_h_ | awesome, thanks | 12:46 |
| ptenhoopen | I need to finish the SQLAlchemy homework you gave us. It was too dang hot in that classroom for me to think! | 12:47 |
| rick_h_ | ptenhoopen: yea no kidding | 12:47 |
| rick_h_ | while it sucked to watch everyone leave, I couldn't blame anyone. | 12:47 |
| rick_h_ | I didn't want to stay in there lol | 12:47 |
| ptenhoopen | 85 degrees and climbing | 12:48 |
| rick_h_ | feel free to ping me on any of that. I still hope some people try it and help with some of the poor reputation points | 12:48 |
| ptenhoopen | Cool | 12:48 |
| brousch | reputation points? | 13:26 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: speakerrate | 13:26 |
| jrwren | http://speakerrate.com/ | 13:26 |
| ptenhoopen | rick_h_: Are you saying that some people didn't like that SQLAlchemy talk? | 13:29 |
| ptenhoopen | Or the reputation of SQLAlchemy? | 13:30 |
| rick_h_ | the rep of sqlalchemy as a tool | 13:31 |
| rick_h_ | because of all it can do, and the completeness, it's got a reputation as hard to get into, bloated, more than you need, etc | 13:31 |
| rick_h_ | my goal was more to fight those initial pain points | 13:32 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: that's it | 13:32 |
| rick_h_ | thanks | 13:32 |
| brousch | it is more than you need. every tool is. however the good tools don't let all the power get in the way of what you need it for | 13:32 |
| rick_h_ | http://blog.mitechie.com/2011/08/01/pyohio-2011-another-year-another-great-time/ | 13:33 |
| rick_h_ | my sumnmary | 13:33 |
| brousch | how the hell did you write a blog post already? | 13:34 |
| rick_h_ | I got up, and started writing a post :) | 13:34 |
| jrwren | he is rick_h_ | 13:34 |
| brousch | i'm still combing through my feeds/email | 13:34 |
| rick_h_ | work will want a summary, so I'm doing it on day job time | 13:34 |
| rick_h_ | ah, well I have a boy that gets up at 6:30 | 13:34 |
| jrwren | prune your feeds/email. | 13:34 |
| rick_h_ | and I did most of that catch up when I got home last night | 13:34 |
| snap-l | Heh, I'm so far behind on feeds it's not even funny. | 13:50 |
| snap-l | But I'll get back up to date ar some point. ;) | 13:50 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Awesome summary. | 13:50 |
| rick_h_ | ty | 13:50 |
| snap-l | I'll be blogging mine sometime this weekn | 13:51 |
| snap-l | Right now, though, it is time to make a presentation for work. | 13:52 |
| snap-l | Which is why I'm chatting on IRC. ;) | 13:52 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 13:53 |
| jrwren | declare feed bankruptcy. its easy. | 13:59 |
| snap-l | Yeah, I will | 14:03 |
| snap-l | Wow, the filenames generated by Ubuntu / GNOME's screenshot utility are actively Windows Hostile. ;) | 14:10 |
| brousch | aren't they just Screenshot1.png etc? | 14:12 |
| snap-l | Not with Chrome handling the titme. | 14:12 |
| snap-l | title, even | 14:12 |
| brousch | talk to your wife. i will not tityou | 14:14 |
| snap-l | Not even a little twist? | 14:14 |
| brousch | nyet | 14:15 |
| snap-l | *whimper* | 14:18 |
| * greg-g walks away slowly | 14:19 | |
| brousch | greg-g: imagine what will happen here when you're no longer around to enforce manners ;) | 14:22 |
| * greg-g shudders | 14:23 | |
| snap-l | heh | 14:27 |
| snap-l | Apparently I had a little glitch | 14:35 |
| snap-l | Neato, I think I blew up my fonts. | 14:39 |
| snap-l | Added Tahoma via the easy to use font installer, and now Impress / Writer won't start. | 14:39 |
| greg-g | no one here happens to have a photo of me presenting anything, do they? | 14:53 |
| locodir-user_ | hey whats up | 14:55 |
| locodir-user_ | I need some help | 14:55 |
| locodir-user_ | plzz | 14:55 |
| greg-g | hello there | 14:55 |
| greg-g | please ask your question | 14:55 |
| snap-l | greg-g: I thought I had a picture of you presenting at MUG, but I'm not finding it at the moment | 14:56 |
| greg-g | yeah, weird | 14:56 |
| greg-g | I can't find any either | 14:56 |
| snap-l | I love when social sites (like the work social site) ask you to complete your user profile | 14:57 |
| snap-l | as if the little bit that made me uncomfortable to enter in the first place wasn't enough | 14:57 |
| snap-l | "sure, here's my twitter, where I use naughty words, and have strong opinions" | 14:58 |
| snap-l | "And my blog, where I do more of the same in more than 140 characters" | 14:58 |
| greg-g | :) | 14:58 |
| snap-l | greg-g: Uploading the one photo I took from that meeting. | 14:59 |
| greg-g | sweet! | 15:00 |
| greg-g | also, that IRC webchat thing on the LoCoDir might get annoying, though that was the first one I saw | 15:00 |
| locodir-user_ | hey thats me again | 15:01 |
| snap-l | noted. | 15:01 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: ooh, good find | 15:02 |
| brousch | greg-g: if you have video, you can cut out a single frame of you presenting | 15:02 |
| snap-l | https://picasaweb.google.com/craigmaloney/UbuntuMUG | 15:02 |
| locodir-user_ | ok Im stucking in this 2 questions and I hope you guys help me | 15:02 |
| locodir-user_ | 1. Write a shell script that will give the user 5 chances to pick your favorite color. 2. Write a shell script that will continue to ask for words until the user types in quit. All of the words typed in should be stored in a file called words in the current directory. | 15:02 |
| _stink_ | is this for a class assignment? | 15:03 |
| brousch | locodir-user_: is this homework? | 15:03 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 15:03 |
| locodir-user_ | yess | 15:03 |
| locodir-user_ | the instructor is beyond good so thats why im here !! | 15:03 |
| locodir-user_ | lol | 15:03 |
| snap-l | greg-g: Got what you need? | 15:04 |
| locodir-user_ | the script | 15:04 |
| locodir-user_ | if you could | 15:04 |
| brousch | locodir-user_: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ | 15:04 |
| snap-l | locodir-user_: That was directed at another user. | 15:04 |
| snap-l | locodir-user_: In IRC, if you're directing conversation at a user, it's polite to use their name when doing so. :) | 15:05 |
| rick_h_ | locodir-user_: so, going to say this as nicely as possible. The guys/gals here are great and helpful. But no one is going to write your script for you | 15:05 |
| greg-g | snap-l: hah, I look funny, thanks :) | 15:05 |
| greg-g | brousch: good point, lemme see if I have anything good. | 15:05 |
| rick_h_ | if you have a specific question about some aspect, or want help with a script you're writing, you can paste what you have so far in http://paste.mitechie.com | 15:05 |
| rick_h_ | and people are very helpful | 15:06 |
| snap-l | greg-g: I don't think I look anything like my pictures. ;) | 15:06 |
| jrwren | the ##csharp channel actually says NO HOMEWORK in the topic. we've never really need to spell it out here :) | 15:07 |
| locodir-user_ | well the problem is I havent done nothing yet because idk where to start , like i know I gotta use the if statment | 15:07 |
| jrwren | wow, never programmed before eh? | 15:08 |
| greg-g | locodir-user_: does your teacher have a time you can meet with them to get help? | 15:08 |
| rick_h_ | locodir-user_: what class/school is this? | 15:08 |
| jrwren | and shell is your first language? sounds fun. | 15:08 |
| _stink_ | yeah, gawd, shell as first language. | 15:08 |
| locodir-user_ | the instructor never done a hands on | 15:08 |
| locodir-user_ | in the class | 15:08 |
| rick_h_ | right, but I'm going to guess that you've got a book, some lecture notes, "idk where to start" seems a bit of a stretch | 15:08 |
| jrwren | I love shell. if you are a cmd person, its a great first lang | 15:09 |
| _stink_ | locodir-user_: i'd suggest looking for a bash scripting tutorial, and combine that with the link brousch gave above: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ | 15:09 |
| jrwren | https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bash+tutorial | 15:09 |
| jrwren | locodir-user_: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bash+tutorial :) | 15:09 |
| locodir-user_ | I dont have notes because all what he do just open the book and go through the chapters like its a history class | 15:09 |
| greg-g | brousch: what would you use to cut the single frame? | 15:10 |
| brousch | greg-g: ffmpeg split to jpeg, lemme see if i can find it | 15:11 |
| locodir-user_ | anyways thank you guys for your time and I dont blame ya | 15:11 |
| greg-g | be sure to check out those links, locodir-user_ :) | 15:12 |
| _stink_ | locodir-user_: learn about how to get user input; how to show the user output; how to use if statements, and how to use a for loop. | 15:12 |
| _stink_ | with that, you should be able to get something started | 15:12 |
| locodir-user_ | I'll try although my test is n 2 hrs | 15:13 |
| brousch | greg-g: actually it looks pretty easy in openshot | 15:15 |
| brousch | trim down the video to a few seconds, export video as image sequence | 15:15 |
| * greg-g nods | 15:16 | |
| brousch | it's in Export video, Advanced tab, Advanced options | 15:16 |
| jrwren | poor kid. | 15:16 |
| snap-l | Yeah | 15:17 |
| snap-l | And here's where I say "fuck presentations, it's a live demo" | 15:32 |
| brousch | snap-l: eh? | 15:37 |
| snap-l | Fighting with powerpoint is not something I particularly care to do. ;) | 15:38 |
| snap-l | So I am better using the time to figure out LiveMeeting instead. | 15:39 |
| snap-l | Which, of course, is proving to be the proverbial needle in haystack | 15:39 |
| snap-l | I swear, corporate web portals need to be abolished. | 15:40 |
| brousch | ug, impress gave me fits so i used S5 | 15:41 |
| brousch | pdfs for presentations are good if they support the media you need | 15:41 |
| snap-l | Yes, but our lovely company has a standard template for how PowerPoint should be used. | 15:42 |
| Blazeix | PDFs + Impressive are the way to go | 15:42 |
| snap-l | And sending out anything that looks like a collection of pages in a presentation format is likely to fall under the "PowerPoint" moniker. | 15:42 |
| Blazeix | though S5 looks cool | 15:43 |
| Blazeix | it should add CSS3 transitions :) | 15:43 |
| brousch | Blazeix: i came up with a couple of ideas for s5 improvements due to my presentation saturday | 15:44 |
| Blazeix | there are a ton of web-based presentation apps out there, I haven't had time to really look at them all. | 15:44 |
| brousch | using notes was hard. i had to alt-tab back and forth to advance the slide, scroll my notes | 15:49 |
| brousch | i was thinking of making the browser stretch across both monitors, then have a vertical divider you can position where you want it. slides on the projector side, notes on the screen side. then they'd advance together | 15:50 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: I think as you do more presentations | 15:51 |
| rick_h_ | you tend to get more into a story a slide and can recall/do it on the fly vs notes like that | 15:51 |
| jrwren | the github founder wrote and s5 replacement/killer | 15:51 |
| brousch | rick_h_: i can't speak without a script. i am horrible | 15:52 |
| rick_h_ | one of the pains of the html presentations are the ones that don't support working via the presentation remote | 15:52 |
| jrwren | brousch: just use 2 browser windows and script their sync | 15:52 |
| rick_h_ | where you need to use arrows vs click/etc | 15:52 |
| Blazeix | jrwren++ | 15:52 |
| Blazeix | jrwren: do you recall the name/link to that s5 competitor? My searches are coming up dry | 15:53 |
| jrwren | i'll look | 15:55 |
| jrwren | http://schacon.github.com/ wrote it | 15:58 |
| jrwren | showoff | 15:58 |
| jrwren | https://github.com/schacon/showoff | 15:58 |
| jrwren | not really s5 since i see its a sinatra app | 15:59 |
| brousch | a whowha? | 15:59 |
| Blazeix | thanks | 16:00 |
| jrwren | yw | 16:01 |
| brousch | there is some kind of weird disconnect between the title of this book and its description http://www.apress.com/9781430235699 | 16:06 |
| jrwren | zomg https://code.google.com/p/ganeti/ | 16:07 |
| brousch | the title is Pro Python for android, the description is Pro Scripting, and includes oither languages | 16:07 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Did we need to come back from pyOhio? | 18:19 |
| snap-l | I'm starting to think that was a mistake. ;) | 18:19 |
| brousch | snap-l: my python/android book is on amazon http://www.amazon.com/Android-Python-SL4A-Paul-Ferrill/dp/1430235691 | 18:24 |
| brousch | well, the book that i won, not my book | 18:24 |
| brousch | bah, but it has the wrong description, like the apress site | 18:26 |
| brousch | i submitted that bug to apress already | 18:26 |
| snap-l | brousch: Yeah, I put it in my wishlist already. | 18:30 |
| brousch | rick_h_: I sense restraint in your description of my talk in your blog post. I'm sure I pushed at least 2 of your buttons | 18:50 |
| snap-l | wtf, wsgi lite? | 19:03 |
| brousch | snap-l: wft. are you viewing my screen? | 19:04 |
| brousch | i just hit that article 1 minute ago | 19:05 |
| snap-l | Get off of reddit. ;) | 19:05 |
| brousch | it was in my google reader feed, python planet i think | 19:06 |
| rick_h_ | bah, wsgi lite was so last night | 19:27 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: what buttons? Thought it was fine | 19:27 |
| brousch | :P | 19:27 |
| rick_h_ | I think I'm mellowing in my old age | 19:28 |
| jrwren | wsgi is already pretty lite isn't it? | 19:49 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: heh, you don't want to know | 20:02 |
| jrwren | noted | 20:12 |
| brousch | what we missed because we went to pyohio: https://plus.google.com/photos/105030465637303791249/albums/5635519623583589521 | 20:13 |
| jrwren | nah, that is just what rob saw. there was way cooler stuff than that at maker fair | 20:14 |
| jrwren | although the bikes and the dragon were damned sweet. | 20:15 |
| brousch | you went? | 20:15 |
| jrwren | yes | 20:15 |
| brousch | where's your giant photo gallery? | 20:15 |
| jrwren | i didn't take any pics. | 20:15 |
| brousch | boo | 20:15 |
| jrwren | well, I took one. | 20:15 |
| jrwren | i was too busy seeing and doing than shooting photo | 20:15 |
| brousch | yeah, that happens at the best events | 20:16 |
| brousch | i took 1 photo at pyohio | 20:17 |
| brousch | automated head-mounted cameras should help with that issue | 20:17 |
| brousch | see any of those at makerfaire? | 20:17 |
| jrwren | nope | 20:18 |
| brousch | hm | 20:19 |
| brousch | should be able to embed it in a hat | 20:19 |
| brousch | could just write an app and tape duct-tape an android phone to my head. snap pic, autoupload | 20:21 |
| brousch | heck, i have most of that code already written | 20:22 |
| ptenhoopen | brousch: It'd be handy to have a remote shutter switch. | 20:49 |
| brousch | hm | 20:50 |
| brousch | some sort of bluetooth thing | 20:50 |
| ptenhoopen | Yea, sure | 20:50 |
| ptenhoopen | That'd work | 20:50 |
| brousch | or you could get fancy and do some image recognition. when you hold up your middle finger where the cam can se it, it snaps a pic a second later | 20:51 |
| ptenhoopen | That'd generate some interesting photos I suspect. | 20:52 |
| locodir-user | any cool ppl n here would help me in my test | 22:46 |
| locodir-user | come on michiganders | 22:46 |
| brousch | i hate bash | 22:48 |
| brousch | can you write it in python? | 22:48 |
| Blazeix | too much for him to handle, brousch :) | 22:53 |
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