[01:07] jrwren: Coolness. [01:07] jrwren: Coming to CHC on Wednesday? [02:09] probably not, but maybe i'll get away [02:10] when is mug? this week or next? [02:10] 2nd tues [02:10] so next week. cool. [02:19] hmm, what was that speaker rating site that was going around for a while? [02:23] Not sure. [11:43] i'm frickin tired. who has coffee for me? [11:53] no kidding....dragggggggging [11:58] I have coffee, but it'll be a bitch to ship [11:58] rick_h_ and snap-l: you both missed out on winning a book at lightning talks [11:58] Bah [11:58] Which books? [11:58] there was a tab;e full of them [11:58] Ah, so winner's choice? [11:58] righ [11:59] wow, my typing is not good today [11:59] seemed like everything from apress and no starch [12:00] Yeah, they seemed pretty well represented. [12:00] i picked PYthon for android using sl4a [12:01] http://www.apress.com/9781430235699 [12:01] brousch: hah, oh well [12:02] nice [12:02] brousch: Nice! [12:02] congrats [12:02] DIdn't know that book existed. [12:02] Will need a review. Expecially on Amazon, sice it isn't there. ;) [12:03] (any reviews, that is) [12:03] wow, weird [12:04] been out almost a month according to the apress page [12:04] Well, that too and I stopped getting their newsletter. [12:05] for a while they didn't have much in the way of Python coming out [12:05] and then they drop books like that, and the update to Foundations of Network Python Programming [12:12] i got home at midnight. i think the left side of my brain is still sleeping. that half of my head feels heavy [12:13] heh [12:20] * greg-g waves at all the PyOhio folks [12:21] Hey greg-g! Sorry we couldn't make your party last night [12:21] no worries, bad timing/weekend for you pythonistas === ptenhoopen__ is now known as ptenhoopen [12:29] greg-g: you're up early post-party [12:41] rick_h_: you're telling me [12:41] I about over slept. Was so tired that I set my alarm for 6:30pm. Woke up at 7:20 and rushed to go pay rent and get to the office by 8am [12:44] rick_h_: I liked your SQLAlchemy presentation. It was also fun trying to help out on the Bookie sprint even though we spent most of our time setting up! [12:44] ptenhoopen: awesome! Glad you liked the talk. [12:45] ptenhoopen: yea, but it was good. Even those that just set it up I think learned a little bit on some new things [12:45] not many people had done the virtualenv/bootstrap things and the fabric commands for helping to get things running [12:45] Exactly! [12:45] so hopefully it was useful for both me/them [12:45] It was. [12:45] as I learned I have some very weak points in my setup [12:45] and I've already started to redo some docs and update some of the scripts [12:46] I'll be happy to test them. [12:46] really appreciate everyone that helped with it. I still had fun :) [12:46] awesome, thanks [12:47] I need to finish the SQLAlchemy homework you gave us. It was too dang hot in that classroom for me to think! [12:47] ptenhoopen: yea no kidding [12:47] while it sucked to watch everyone leave, I couldn't blame anyone. [12:47] I didn't want to stay in there lol [12:48] 85 degrees and climbing [12:48] feel free to ping me on any of that. I still hope some people try it and help with some of the poor reputation points [12:48] Cool [13:26] reputation points? [13:26] rick_h_: speakerrate [13:26] http://speakerrate.com/ [13:29] rick_h_: Are you saying that some people didn't like that SQLAlchemy talk? [13:30] Or the reputation of SQLAlchemy? [13:31] the rep of sqlalchemy as a tool [13:31] because of all it can do, and the completeness, it's got a reputation as hard to get into, bloated, more than you need, etc [13:32] my goal was more to fight those initial pain points [13:32] jrwren: that's it [13:32] thanks [13:32] it is more than you need. every tool is. however the good tools don't let all the power get in the way of what you need it for [13:33] http://blog.mitechie.com/2011/08/01/pyohio-2011-another-year-another-great-time/ [13:33] my sumnmary [13:34] how the hell did you write a blog post already? [13:34] I got up, and started writing a post :) [13:34] he is rick_h_ [13:34] i'm still combing through my feeds/email [13:34] work will want a summary, so I'm doing it on day job time [13:34] ah, well I have a boy that gets up at 6:30 [13:34] prune your feeds/email. [13:34] and I did most of that catch up when I got home last night [13:50] Heh, I'm so far behind on feeds it's not even funny. [13:50] But I'll get back up to date ar some point. ;) [13:50] rick_h_: Awesome summary. [13:50] ty [13:51] I'll be blogging mine sometime this weekn [13:52] Right now, though, it is time to make a presentation for work. [13:52] Which is why I'm chatting on IRC. ;) [13:53] lol [13:59] declare feed bankruptcy. its easy. [14:03] Yeah, I will [14:10] Wow, the filenames generated by Ubuntu / GNOME's screenshot utility are actively Windows Hostile. ;) [14:12] aren't they just Screenshot1.png etc? [14:12] Not with Chrome handling the titme. [14:12] title, even [14:14] talk to your wife. i will not tityou [14:14] Not even a little twist? [14:15] nyet [14:18] *whimper* [14:19] * greg-g walks away slowly [14:22] greg-g: imagine what will happen here when you're no longer around to enforce manners ;) [14:23] * greg-g shudders [14:27] heh [14:35] Apparently I had a little glitch [14:39] Neato, I think I blew up my fonts. [14:39] Added Tahoma via the easy to use font installer, and now Impress / Writer won't start. [14:53] no one here happens to have a photo of me presenting anything, do they? [14:55] hey whats up [14:55] I need some help [14:55] plzz [14:55] hello there [14:55] please ask your question [14:56] greg-g: I thought I had a picture of you presenting at MUG, but I'm not finding it at the moment [14:56] yeah, weird [14:56] I can't find any either [14:57] I love when social sites (like the work social site) ask you to complete your user profile [14:57] as if the little bit that made me uncomfortable to enter in the first place wasn't enough [14:58] "sure, here's my twitter, where I use naughty words, and have strong opinions" [14:58] "And my blog, where I do more of the same in more than 140 characters" [14:58] :) [14:59] greg-g: Uploading the one photo I took from that meeting. [15:00] sweet! [15:00] also, that IRC webchat thing on the LoCoDir might get annoying, though that was the first one I saw [15:01] hey thats me again [15:01] noted. [15:02] snap-l: ooh, good find [15:02] greg-g: if you have video, you can cut out a single frame of you presenting [15:02] https://picasaweb.google.com/craigmaloney/UbuntuMUG [15:02] ok Im stucking in this 2 questions and I hope you guys help me [15:02] 1. Write a shell script that will give the user 5 chances to pick your favorite color. 2. Write a shell script that will continue to ask for words until the user types in quit. All of the words typed in should be stored in a file called words in the current directory. [15:03] <_stink_> is this for a class assignment? [15:03] locodir-user_: is this homework? [15:03] lol [15:03] yess [15:03] the instructor is beyond good so thats why im here !! [15:03] lol [15:04] greg-g: Got what you need? [15:04] the script [15:04] if you could [15:04] locodir-user_: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ [15:04] locodir-user_: That was directed at another user. [15:05] locodir-user_: In IRC, if you're directing conversation at a user, it's polite to use their name when doing so. :) [15:05] locodir-user_: so, going to say this as nicely as possible. The guys/gals here are great and helpful. But no one is going to write your script for you [15:05] snap-l: hah, I look funny, thanks :) [15:05] brousch: good point, lemme see if I have anything good. [15:05] if you have a specific question about some aspect, or want help with a script you're writing, you can paste what you have so far in http://paste.mitechie.com [15:06] and people are very helpful [15:06] greg-g: I don't think I look anything like my pictures. ;) [15:07] the ##csharp channel actually says NO HOMEWORK in the topic. we've never really need to spell it out here :) [15:07] well the problem is I havent done nothing yet because idk where to start , like i know I gotta use the if statment [15:08] wow, never programmed before eh? [15:08] locodir-user_: does your teacher have a time you can meet with them to get help? [15:08] locodir-user_: what class/school is this? [15:08] and shell is your first language? sounds fun. [15:08] <_stink_> yeah, gawd, shell as first language. [15:08] the instructor never done a hands on [15:08] in the class [15:08] right, but I'm going to guess that you've got a book, some lecture notes, "idk where to start" seems a bit of a stretch [15:09] I love shell. if you are a cmd person, its a great first lang [15:09] <_stink_> locodir-user_: i'd suggest looking for a bash scripting tutorial, and combine that with the link brousch gave above: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ [15:09] https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bash+tutorial [15:09] locodir-user_: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bash+tutorial :) [15:09] I dont have notes because all what he do just open the book and go through the chapters like its a history class [15:10] brousch: what would you use to cut the single frame? [15:11] greg-g: ffmpeg split to jpeg, lemme see if i can find it [15:11] anyways thank you guys for your time and I dont blame ya [15:12] be sure to check out those links, locodir-user_ :) [15:12] <_stink_> locodir-user_: learn about how to get user input; how to show the user output; how to use if statements, and how to use a for loop. [15:12] <_stink_> with that, you should be able to get something started [15:13] I'll try although my test is n 2 hrs [15:15] greg-g: actually it looks pretty easy in openshot [15:15] trim down the video to a few seconds, export video as image sequence [15:16] * greg-g nods [15:16] it's in Export video, Advanced tab, Advanced options [15:16] poor kid. [15:17] Yeah [15:32] And here's where I say "fuck presentations, it's a live demo" [15:37] snap-l: eh? [15:38] Fighting with powerpoint is not something I particularly care to do. ;) [15:39] So I am better using the time to figure out LiveMeeting instead. [15:39] Which, of course, is proving to be the proverbial needle in haystack [15:40] I swear, corporate web portals need to be abolished. [15:41] ug, impress gave me fits so i used S5 [15:41] pdfs for presentations are good if they support the media you need [15:42] Yes, but our lovely company has a standard template for how PowerPoint should be used. [15:42] PDFs + Impressive are the way to go [15:42] And sending out anything that looks like a collection of pages in a presentation format is likely to fall under the "PowerPoint" moniker. [15:43] though S5 looks cool [15:43] it should add CSS3 transitions :) [15:44] Blazeix: i came up with a couple of ideas for s5 improvements due to my presentation saturday [15:44] there are a ton of web-based presentation apps out there, I haven't had time to really look at them all. [15:49] using notes was hard. i had to alt-tab back and forth to advance the slide, scroll my notes [15:50] i was thinking of making the browser stretch across both monitors, then have a vertical divider you can position where you want it. slides on the projector side, notes on the screen side. then they'd advance together [15:51] brousch: I think as you do more presentations [15:51] you tend to get more into a story a slide and can recall/do it on the fly vs notes like that [15:51] the github founder wrote and s5 replacement/killer [15:52] rick_h_: i can't speak without a script. i am horrible [15:52] one of the pains of the html presentations are the ones that don't support working via the presentation remote [15:52] brousch: just use 2 browser windows and script their sync [15:52] where you need to use arrows vs click/etc [15:52] jrwren++ [15:53] jrwren: do you recall the name/link to that s5 competitor? My searches are coming up dry [15:55] i'll look [15:58] http://schacon.github.com/ wrote it [15:58] showoff [15:58] https://github.com/schacon/showoff [15:59] not really s5 since i see its a sinatra app [15:59] a whowha? [16:00] thanks [16:01] yw [16:06] there is some kind of weird disconnect between the title of this book and its description http://www.apress.com/9781430235699 [16:07] zomg https://code.google.com/p/ganeti/ [16:07] the title is Pro Python for android, the description is Pro Scripting, and includes oither languages [18:19] rick_h_: Did we need to come back from pyOhio? [18:19] I'm starting to think that was a mistake. ;) [18:24] snap-l: my python/android book is on amazon http://www.amazon.com/Android-Python-SL4A-Paul-Ferrill/dp/1430235691 [18:24] well, the book that i won, not my book [18:26] bah, but it has the wrong description, like the apress site [18:26] i submitted that bug to apress already [18:30] brousch: Yeah, I put it in my wishlist already. [18:50] rick_h_: I sense restraint in your description of my talk in your blog post. I'm sure I pushed at least 2 of your buttons [19:03] wtf, wsgi lite? [19:04] snap-l: wft. are you viewing my screen? [19:05] i just hit that article 1 minute ago [19:05] Get off of reddit. ;) [19:06] it was in my google reader feed, python planet i think [19:27] bah, wsgi lite was so last night [19:27] brousch: what buttons? Thought it was fine [19:27] :P [19:28] I think I'm mellowing in my old age [19:49] wsgi is already pretty lite isn't it? [20:02] jrwren: heh, you don't want to know [20:12] noted [20:13] what we missed because we went to pyohio: https://plus.google.com/photos/105030465637303791249/albums/5635519623583589521 [20:14] nah, that is just what rob saw. there was way cooler stuff than that at maker fair [20:15] although the bikes and the dragon were damned sweet. [20:15] you went? [20:15] yes [20:15] where's your giant photo gallery? [20:15] i didn't take any pics. [20:15] boo [20:15] well, I took one. [20:15] i was too busy seeing and doing than shooting photo [20:16] yeah, that happens at the best events [20:17] i took 1 photo at pyohio [20:17] automated head-mounted cameras should help with that issue [20:17] see any of those at makerfaire? [20:18] nope [20:19] hm [20:19] should be able to embed it in a hat [20:21] could just write an app and tape duct-tape an android phone to my head. snap pic, autoupload [20:22] heck, i have most of that code already written [20:49] brousch: It'd be handy to have a remote shutter switch. [20:50] hm [20:50] some sort of bluetooth thing [20:50] Yea, sure [20:50] That'd work [20:51] or you could get fancy and do some image recognition. when you hold up your middle finger where the cam can se it, it snaps a pic a second later [20:52] That'd generate some interesting photos I suspect. [22:46] any cool ppl n here would help me in my test [22:46] come on michiganders [22:48] i hate bash [22:48] can you write it in python? [22:53] too much for him to handle, brousch :) [23:52] There is a TDM 2v2 QuakeWorld Tourney being hosted, if anyone is interested in signing up. http://qwsta.info/