[00:00] <g2bl33t> which method is best for learning python? Python documentation or From novice to professional
[00:01] <g2bl33t> ?
[00:01] <JoseP> ActionParsnip, you here?
[00:01] <JoseP> gb2l33t: go on youtube, find the MIT channel and watch the lectures for course 6.00
[00:02] <JoseP> they teach Python
[00:02] <Medjai> lol i used MIT lectures for my Electromagnetic Fields 1 class
[00:02] <Medjai> they're good
[00:02] <momslinux> ActionParsnip: won't it overwrite the permissions when i create users?
[00:02] <JoseP> it's MIT lol
[00:03] <Medjai> haha yeah they have the money to hire great professors
[00:03] <fowl> where does one configure notifications for gnome
[00:03] <g2bl33t> I'd rather read tho can someone look through and tell me please
[00:04] <Kre10s> hello. I made an app that uses gtk to draw to the screen in fullscreen. can I set this app as the screensaver?
[00:05] <g2bl33t> ?
[00:06] <fowl> where does one configure notifications for gnome
[00:10] <ghostnik11> can anyone tell me if something is wrong with my sda 3 and sda 1 from my boot script info results: http://paste.ubuntu.com/655955/
[00:10] <shadows090> I was wondering if anyone could help with a strange networking problem. I can't ssh into my machine if I go through my external IP. I have a static IP on my server, ssh running on port 443, port 443 running to the static address, and I can ssh into my machine using my LAN IP. I have verified that port 443 is open with nmap (my external ip). I can also ping my server, and I can access the internet from my server. Any advice?
[00:11] <Hyperbyte> ghostnik11:  see manpages for 'smartctl' and 'hdparm', harddisk diagnostics/benchmark
[00:11] <th0r> shadows090: is there a router or firewall between the server and the net?
[00:12] <ghostnik11> hyperbyte: manpages? is that on ubuntu forums
[00:12] <rww> ghostnik11: "man smartctl" (for example) on the commandline, or http://manpages.ubuntu.com
[00:12] <Hyperbyte> ghostnik11:  type 'man <topic>' to view a manpage in a terminal, for example 'man smartctl', or use http://manpages.ubuntu.com/smartctl... 'man' is short for 'manual'
[00:12] <shadows090> th0r, yes. I've the ssh port (443) and verified that it is open with nmap. I'm having the same problem with port 80. My server runs a web site and ssh
[00:13] <th0r> shadows090: if there is a router or firewall, you will need to set up port forwarding from the external 443 to the internal 443. Another note, something in the back of my mind says 443 might be a bad choice
[00:14] <belbo_227> list /channels
[00:14]  * stilia-johny hi everybody
[00:14] <rww> th0r, shadows090: 443 is the port for HTTPS. If you have a router with a web interface, it wouldn't surprise me if it's getting confused and causing problems because of that.
[00:14] <shadows090> th0r, i've been using ssh on 443 on this same router for a few years. I have it forwarded from external 443 to internal 443, and haven't had a problem until the past few weeks. I use port 443 to get around firewalls, incase I Need to ssh from behind a different LAN
[00:15] <th0r> shadows090: right...443 is used for https
[00:15] <Hyperbyte> th0r, it's an excellent choice if you want to bypass proxy servers at work or school, but other than that it's a bad choice yes. ;-)
[00:15] <rww> ah, if it worked in the past, then nvm. *Shrugs8
[00:15] <th0r> shadows090: no problem, just mentioned it as it was nagging at me <smile>
[00:15] <th0r> shadows090: as I said...you might need to forward the port in the router
[00:16] <almoxarife> shadows090: you did something to create a firewall within the OS?
[00:16] <shadows090> th0r, rww I appreciate the concern. I have it port forwarded (port 80, and 443) to the static IP of the server. I've had this set up (same ip, same port for ssh) for at least a couple of years. I've tried rebooting the server, rebooting the router, reconfiguring the router from scratch, and still no dice
[00:17] <shadows090> almoxarife, yes it has a firewall, but it is just the default iptables rules (my server is debian)
[00:18] <almoxarife> shadows090: installed recent?
[00:18] <Northernen> What is the problem if ffplayer can open a video file, but smplayer can not?
[00:18] <sudokill> smplayer
[00:18] <bomba4ka> ghbtn ctv
[00:18] <bomba4ka> Приет сем
[00:18] <shadows090> almoxarife, fairly recent. a month ago maybe? I've also had some weird routing problems. I've had to flush ip route table main. I think it's something to do with hooking up a wireless AP through eth0. running iwconfig eth0 strangely says that eth0 is wireless...
[00:19] <shadows090> almoxarife, i have restarted networking and ensured that routing has fixed itself, but maybe that's related
[00:19] <almoxarife> shadows090: look at the most recent changes, and then work back from there
[00:20] <TeamColtra> Does anyone have an idea on how to put a dvdiso onto a usb stick (bootable)?
[00:20] <shadows090> almoxarife, changes from the ip route?
[00:20] <TeamColtra> I tried using usb-creator-gtk and it wouldn't accept the ISO, I also tried "portablelinux" and that said that the iso was "too large"
[00:21] <shadows090> almoxarife, and also, just to cover. I've also reset the known hosts, authorized keys, etc in ~/.ssh
[00:21] <almoxarife> shadows090: I would examine the iptables, insure they are what you want them to be
[00:21] <shadows090> almoxarife, thanks a lot. i've never messed with iptables much. do i just iptables -l? (that's a lower case L)
[00:21] <almoxarife> shadows090: -L
[00:22] <shadows090> almoxarife, thanks a ton
[00:22] <tripelb> this theme has 3 black dots for box--X -- I want the normal or at least different colored dots. Help please. and they are --boxX in that order
[00:22] <tripelb> I want a timer that takes a time-interval not a clock-time. I also want it to "ring off".  Please help.
[00:23] <tripelb> I installed alarm-clock. why does it say "previously deselected package"? When did I deselect it?
[00:23] <shadows090> almoxarife, i added it to http://pastebin.com/UA3B2bkZ it looks like it accepts everything...
[00:24] <shadows090> almoxarife, also, that was from the server, not the one I'm trying to ssh from
[00:25] <almoxarife> shadows090: "from" should not be the issue, unless there is a 'no out to 443' rule
[00:27] <almoxarife> shadows090: from the paste, I usually see three chains in a clean iptable, I thought?
[00:28] <shadows090> almoxarife, yeah. it seems to be a little empty, but that's all of it.  i checked netstat -n to make sure routing is correct. besides running some unknown process at port 34858, i haven't any clue what could be wrong
[00:28] <Fretta> how would I uninstall a package I installed from source
[00:28] <Fretta> ImageMagick?
[00:29] <itaylor57> Fretta, do a sudo make uninstall from the source
[00:29] <shadows090> almoxarife, my bad, i did miss the top line. it says chain input policy accept
[00:29] <Fretta> itaylor57 thanks will give that a shot
[00:29] <almoxarife> shadows090: cool'
[00:31] <shadows090> almoxarife, i think i'll try resetting the router again. i really haven't any other clue what it could be
[00:31] <almoxarife> shadows090: one thing that is not stopping you to get to the OS, the iptables, hardware?
[00:32] <almoxarife> shadows090: there is a channel called networking, I don't know how friendly or alive they are
[00:34] <shadows090> almoxarife, lol ok. thanks a lot man. i appreciate your help. i may try setting up an ssh server on here (default port) and seeing if i can ssh from my server to this machine using the outside IP. we'll see. i'm not even using my domain name (so DNS settings shouldn't be a problem). I'm going to reset my router, reconfigure for port forwarding, and I'll probably be back once I'm connected again. thanks!
[00:39] <elard> Buenas
[00:39] <elard> como estamos
[00:39] <palmice> no mames guey
[00:40] <calwig> hi, is there an app to make business cards in ubuntu?
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> calwig: libreoffice may
[00:40] <elard> quisiera hacer una consulta: ¿cada vez que intento conectar shotwell a facebook me aparece este mensaje "server redirect url contained no session description"?
[00:41] <induz>  why i am failing to make my USB a bootable with linux
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> calwig: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2009/06/11/printing-labels-and-business-cards-in-ubuntu/
[00:41] <induz> is there any commands to format my D: drive to make it bootable so that i can install mint
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> induz: MD5 test the ISO, be sure the USB device is healthy
[00:42] <induz> usb is healthy
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> induz: D: means nothing in Ubuntu
[00:42] <induz> how can i do MD5 test
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | induz
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> induz: are you using windows currently?
[00:43] <induz> no
[00:43] <induz> I used and tried on windows [MS] but
[00:43] <induz>  its too confusing for me
[00:43] <induz> please help
[00:43] <induz> dont send me links...I read from morning but failed
[00:44] <induz> I have this USB
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> induz: unetbootin is in the ubuntu repos, you can use it to wipe the USB partition, then transfer the verified ISO
[00:44] <induz> its formatted in MS windows as FAT32
[00:44] <induz> I have UNEBootin
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> induz: the formatting is moot, unetbootin should be used to wipe it
[00:45] <induz> I tried to download the live version of Mint but it fails too va UNEBootin
[00:45] <chrometiger> can you install gnomeshell ontop of 10.10 without breaking everything and easily go back ?
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> induz: did you test the ISO?
[00:46] <induz> no not yet
[00:46] <induz> I am reading to Test it
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> induz: then how did you know it was complete and consistent?
[00:47] <induz> I didt know
[00:47] <induz> Its in my desktop folder so i have CD
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> induz: then md5 test it and get the hash and compare
[00:47] <induz> how can i CD to my Home/Desktop directory
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> induz: if they match the image is good
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> induz: cd ~/Desktop
[00:48] <induz>  now I am on Desktop directory and my ISO is there
[00:49] <Soothsayer> Anyone facing file corruption while using ntfs drives in ubuntu?
[00:49] <Ycarene> Is there a version of ubuntu that defaults to using enlightenment as its' desktop environment?
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> Soothsayer: partition, not drive ;)
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> Ycarene: not an offiail one
[00:50] <Soothsayer> ActionParsnip, yup.
[00:50] <Ycarene> Ahh
[00:51] <induz> ActionParsnip, after running MD% command i get this 5341d0e3e692246c22ad7dd31c94c828  austrumi-1.8.5.iso
[00:51] <induz>   that means my iso is correct??
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> induz: grab the md5sum file for the ISOs and check
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> !info enlightenment
[00:53] <Soothsayer> I'm going to try out gnome 3 after all today. The mixed reviews have confused me.
[00:53] <Logan_> !gnome3 | Soothsayer
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> Ycarene: moonos seems to
[00:53] <induz> i  run MD5  susturmi.iso and get a line
[00:53] <Soothsayer> Logan what! but I can install KDE :-| damn. I was just going to use this - http://techhamlet.com/2011/05/how-to-install-gnome-3-on-ubuntu-11-04/
[00:54] <induz> ActionParsnip, How can i grab the file
[00:54] <Logan_> Soothsayer: Kubuntu is an official supported Ubuntu distribution; there aren't currently any stable distributions running Gnome 3.
[00:54] <induz> I ran the command on terminal with MD5 and my directory[desktop]
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> induz: from the site you downloaded it from. If you are still unsure ask in their support channel
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> Ycarene: http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2010/12/ten-linux-distros-that-use.html
[00:54] <Soothsayer> Logan_, ha damn. I don't use Unity though, only the Gnome Classic.
[00:54] <Logan_> Soothsayer: Same here.
[00:55] <Soothsayer> Logan_, so I can go ahead and try out Gnome 3 in this case?
[00:55] <Logan_> Soothsayer: Yes, but, as the automated message said, it is very experimental and unstable and could break your interface.  It is difficult to go back afterwards.
[00:56] <Soothsayer> Logan_, there's a chance it can break my existing interface (gnome classic?)?
[00:56] <lucusoid> hi everyone... Tried today to play on ScummVM but was impossible. Mouse resets position to the center of the screen. Running Natty 64 bit
[00:56] <Soothsayer> I guess I'll just wait for a month or two
[00:56] <itaylor57> Soothsayer, more than a chance, it most likely will require a reinstall to fix
[00:56] <Logan_> Soothsayer: I cannot guarantee that it will not do so.  Stick to the official ones, KDE, XFCE, and Gnome 2.
[00:57] <Soothsayer> itaylor57, damn.
[00:58] <Soothsayer> I don't like the official ones too much. I like some of the features in gnome3
[00:59] <Logan_> Soothsayer: Then you could try another distro, like Fedora or openSUSE.
[01:00] <Soothsayer> Logan_, that's painful. It took me a while to understand the ubuntu/debian layout, features and server management.
[01:00] <induz_> ActionParsnip, I am back sorry
[01:00] <induz_> It failed again
[01:00] <Logan_> Soothsayer: If you wait until Oneiric is stable, you'll be able to install the Gnome 3 shell from the repository.
[01:01] <Soothsayer> Logan_, what are the big features in Oneiric?
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> induz_: was the hash ok?
[01:02] <Logan_> Soothsayer: Honestly, I haven't been testing it.  You could ask someone in #ubuntu+1
[01:03] <induz_> there is no hash on ,iso file
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> induz_: if you websearch for the hash you generated, it should find pages
[01:04] <induz_>  Can I run UNetbootin and salect a Linux Mint LIVE can this be enough
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> induz_: possibly
[01:04] <bitcycle> Hey all.   I'm trying to list the available essid's with iwlist on the commandline... but its only listing the one that I"m connected to... Do I need to disconnect before it gives me a full list?
[01:05] <induz_> or I have to slect a version and then .iso too
[01:05] <shadows090> almoxarife, I wanted to let you know. I'm not sure what was causing it, but resetting the router worked. now I can access it again via external ip. i have no idea why, since I had it configured; but it works now
[01:05] <itaylor57> induz_, the has you listed earlier matches the iso hash sum
[01:05] <jbhewitt> hey guys im trying to install the Virtual kernel in ubuntu 10.04.  I'm using apt-get install linux-image-virtual - however i do not see a virtual kernel put into /boot
[01:05] <induz_>  how can match the Hash
[01:05] <induz_> i downloaded the .iso
[01:06] <almoxarife> shadows090: cool
[01:06] <itaylor57> induz_, http://download.polytechnic.edu.na/pub4/download.sourceforge.net/pub/sourceforge/a/project/au/austrumi/austrumi/austrumi-1.8.5/austrumi-1.8.5.md5
[01:06] <Logan_> induz_: The MD5 hash checks the intended structure of the file against what you downloaded.  It is only significant if the original website had an MD5 hash to compare your downloaded file's hash to.
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> induz_: if you search for the hash in a search engine, you should find results if it matches
[01:07] <shadows090> induz_, you can type "md5sum " followed by the full directory to the iso, and including the iso. ex: md5sum /home/$user/Downloads/thisIso.iso
[01:07] <induz_> I downloaded from here http://cyti.latgola.lv/ruuni/
[01:07] <itaylor57> induz_, you .iso md5 sum checks out , so you have a good download
[01:07] <Soothsayer> it's annoying me that I can't ping any host / ip in Ubuntu
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> induz_: its clearly too taxing for you and this is getting really boring: http://duckduckgo.com/?q=5341d0e3e692246c22ad7dd31c94c828+austrumi-1.8.5.iso
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> induz_: there is a hit, your file is fine
[01:08] <dli> Soothsayer, ping localhost
[01:08] <Soothsayer> dli, that works
[01:08] <Soothsayer> but any external host/ip, I always get a 100% packet loss.
[01:08] <dli> Soothsayer, ping your router
[01:08] <Soothsayer> dli, yes that pings too.
[01:08] <dli> Soothsayer, ping your DNS
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> induz_: your file is fine. I suggest you ask in the channel for your chosen distro
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> induz_: the OS is also based on BSD, not mint
[01:09] <Soothsayer> dli, my primary dns does not ping, the secondary does.
[01:09] <unomi> How can I change behavior to resize on alt+rightdrag ?
[01:09] <shadows090> Soothsayer, i normally ping 127.0.0.1. if that works (which it does), i ping my static ip address. if that does, i ping router, if that does, i ping a dns (i ping 8.8.8.8 since it's google's), and if that works i try pinging google.com. depending on which fails you can tell where the problem is
[01:10] <induz_> Ok now the .iso is fine but how can i burn it on my USB to make it bootabe;l
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> induz_: I suggest you ask in the austumi irc channel for support, your issue is not with ubuntu
[01:10] <dli> Soothsayer, that might be the cause
[01:10] <unomi> induz_: the simplest way is probably unetbootin
[01:10] <Soothsayer> shadows090, I use opendns. But it looks you can't ping it. 208.67.222.222
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> induz_: unetbootin may use it, theremay be an issue with the OS and unetbootin which will be given in the austrumi channel;
[01:10] <induz_> I am using UNetbootin
[01:10] <shadows090> Soothsayer, i am getting responses from that ip
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> induz_: yes, tahts why I gave the above
[01:11] <Soothsayer> shadows090, hmm.. im not
[01:11] <induz_> I dont mind another Linux Ubuntu that can fit into my 1gb USB
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> induz_: they all can, the ISO is 700Mb
[01:11] <Soothsayer> Here's my connection information: http://i.imgur.com/Bbu9W.png
[01:12] <Soothsayer> ok I can't even ping 8.8.8.8
[01:12] <induz_> this austrumi is 70 MB
[01:12] <induz_> sorry 92Mb
[01:12] <shadows090> Soothsayer, strange, i can ping both. and you *can* ping your secondary dns?
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> induz_: ok...?
[01:12] <Soothsayer> shadows090, yes. that's my ISP's DNS.
[01:13] <induz_> is there any documentaion for UNETBootin
[01:13] <shadows090> Soothsayer, strange. does it give any error message? or just no return pings?
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> Soothsayer: can you ping 192.168.1.1 ?
[01:13] <Soothsayer> I'm not using DHCP. I configured a static ip
[01:13] <Soothsayer> shadows090, no return pings. 71 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 70008ms
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> induz_: there will be on the unetbooting page, I thought the GUI was pretty self explanatory
[01:13] <Soothsayer> ActionParsnip, 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=1.41 ms
[01:13] <Soothsayer> it works fine
[01:13] <Cameron0x4d> I don't know where to ask this but, How do I highlight text thats in a PDF file, the same way I would with a real book?
[01:14] <induz_> I am downloading MInt now via UNETBootin...let see if that works
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> Soothsayer: Soothsayer then you can ping your default gateway, just not beyond. Is the web connection behind the router ok?
[01:14] <shadows090> ActionParsnip, he can ping *his* ISP's DNS, but not opendns or google's
[01:14] <induz_> Thanks a lot ActionParsnip ....hope it works
[01:15] <Soothsayer> ActionParsnip, well I'm connected to IRC, Gtalk and I can surf any website. So there's no issue with the internet.
[01:15] <Cameron0x4d> Soothsayer, whats your problem?
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> induz_: just so you are aware, mint isnt supported here
[01:15] <Soothsayer> Cameron0x4d, I can't ping any host/ip beyond my router's.
[01:15] <Cameron0x4d> how are you on isp?
[01:15] <Soothsayer> I can ping on my windows devices though.
[01:15] <Cameron0x4d> i mean IRC***
[01:15] <Soothsayer> Cameron0x4d, connected via my router.
[01:16] <induz_> I tried Ubuntu too
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> Soothsayer: if you use your ISPs DNS is it all ok?
[01:16] <Soothsayer> Cameron0x4d, oh, I'm on the same pc. The net works fine. It's just i can't ping
[01:16] <Soothsayer> ActionParsnip, hmm.. so I should remove the google dns and try?
[01:16] <Cameron0x4d> oh, tried to speed up your net, via going to googles dns?
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> Soothsayer: yes just change the DNS servers in network manager or /etc/resolv.conf
[01:17] <Soothsayer> Also, I'm connected through a wireless network card. If that makes a difference.
[01:17] <Soothsayer> ActionParsnip, ok trying it. I might get disconnected.
[01:17] <syn-ack> Thanks ActionParsnip. Took a lot of choring around to get this thing to work again. Finally had to purge nm, reinstall it then unblock everything with rfkill
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> Cameron0x4d: i'm fairly sure the ISP DNS will be faster than google's
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> syn-ack: yikes
[01:17] <seclm193> hello all
[01:17] <syn-ack> OpenDNS is much quicker than your ISP DNS
[01:17] <syn-ack> ActionParsnip, yeah, this thing locked up hard.
[01:18] <Cameron0x4d> ActionParsnip: oh i know, because its a widely known thing now, so everyone does it.
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> if you install and configure dnsmasq you can make DNS take 0ms
[01:18] <syn-ack> Couldnt even get it to come up with a live session
[01:18] <syn-ack> 'twas really odd
[01:18] <Cameron0x4d> What are you trying to ping?
[01:18] <Cameron0x4d> Soothsayer: can you repeat the entire question for me?
[01:18] <Soothsayer> Cameron0x4d, any website, say google or bing or ...
[01:19] <Cameron0x4d> but you can connect to google or bing?
[01:19] <Soothsayer> Cameron0x4d, I can't ping any ip / host from my computer but I can connect to them, yes.
[01:19] <Soothsayer> ActionParsnip, ok changed dns
[01:19] <Soothsayer> ActionParsnip, still no ping.
[01:19] <Soothsayer> now I just have my ISP's dns configured
[01:20] <syn-ack> Now, to figure out why Banshee isnt wanting to poll CDDA info
[01:20] <Cameron0x4d> Soothsayer: is this a new thing? did you just set up a new router or something?
[01:20] <Soothsayer> Cameron0x4d, nope, been happening since day 1 on Ubuntu.
[01:20] <Cameron0x4d> Soothsayer: ping 10.0.0.7
[01:20] <Soothsayer> Cameron0x4d, no reply.
[01:21] <Soothsayer> I'm going to try disabling static ip and use DHCP and try
[01:21] <Soothsayer> hold.
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> Soothsayer: http://pastie.org/2301479
[01:21] <Cameron0x4d> Soothsayer: lol i meant 127.0.0.1
[01:22] <Northernen> http://pastebin.com/dbHpZgAj - why is mplayer not working?
[01:22] <seclm193> omegaforte, how ya doing/
[01:23] <bacar> hey the world
[01:24] <MACscr_lappy> 10.4 live cd doesnt recongize my wireless. i found a workaround with modprobe's blacklist, but the tutorial recommends rebooting.  Is there something i can do instead for it to recongize the hardware?
[01:24] <freeminds> does anyone know why the tool "bitmap" doesn't work for me? I can't draw anything
[01:24] <MACscr_lappy> aka, instead of the reboot?
[01:24] <Soothsayer_> using dhcp doesn't help either
[01:24] <Soothsayer_>  ActionParsnip, doing a route.
[01:25] <Soothsayer_>  ActionParsnip, I get a - http://pastie.org/2301486
[01:25] <Soothsayer_>  there's a link-local in between
[01:25] <Soothsayer_>  ping test
[01:25] <FloodBot1> Soothsayer_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:25] <Soothsayer_> FloodBot1, I timed out so I pasted my own messages :P bot-apology.
[01:25] <Soothsayer_> Everyone disappeared?
[01:26] <Soothsayer_> ActionParsnip, am I muzzled?
[01:26] <aurilliance> I've installed matlab and can run it from a terminal, but when I try to run it from a launcher I see the splash screen, but the actual program does not open.
[01:28] <seclm193> omegaforte:  think i've got my driver issue working
[01:31] <Soothsayer> ActionParsnip, you here?
[01:31] <freeminds> does anyone know why the tool "bitmap" doesn't work for me? I can't draw anything
[01:31] <seclm193> Why does my cursor keep disappearing behind the active window/
[01:31] <seclm193> ?
[01:32] <itaylor57> KM0201, o/
[01:32] <KM0201> itaylor57, o/
[01:34] <Polah> Is there an ls option to display the number of files
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> Soothsayer: my network line in route has a metric of 0, yours is 2
[01:35] <Soothsayer> ActionParsnip, I wouldn't know what to make out of that.
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> Soothsayer: Soothsayer try making it 0, see if it helps
[01:38] <nouse> Polah: 'ls | nl' should do it
[01:39] <unomi> jesus this is frustrating.. how do I turn on window resize via alt+rightDrag?
[01:39] <Polah> nouse: Thank you very much
[01:39] <karen_> trying to use gnome-ppp I get this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/655998/ help?
[01:40] <odie5533> I ran an apt-get and it stalled, so I closed the console, but it's still running. so I tried to kill it in another console but the /usr/bin/dpkg thing won't die. How do I kill it since I can't get a lock to install anything else while it's running?
[01:40] <bcessa> hi, a couple of days ago I start getting this error message http://pastebin.com/f82tEQqS I already dpkg-reconfigure locales but still can't fix it, any ideas?
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | odie5533
[01:40] <karen_> odie5533: sudo kill -9 $(pidof apt)
[01:41] <odie5533> karen_: kill -9 didn't kill it.
[01:41] <karen_> o
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> odie5533: the comamnd I made ubootu give will fix it
[01:41] <odie5533> that command returns "dpkg: error: dpkg status database is locked by another process"
[01:42] <odie5533> process still shows in ps, and can't use apt-get.
[01:42] <seclm193> Anyone know how to keep my cursor from disappearing when not in use in active window/
[01:42] <seclm193> ?
[01:42] <odie5533> is there a kill -10 or something?
[01:43] <karen_> odie5533: if you were root and -9 did not work then reboot
[01:44] <odie5533> d'oh.
[01:44] <karen_> also
[01:44] <karen_> is the pid changing?
[01:44] <odie5533> nope
[01:44] <unomi> might want to try pkill, but apt shouldn't need it afaik
[01:44] <bcessa> anyone?
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> odie5533: kill -9 is the biggest hammer
[01:44] <karen_> it could be re-spawned by something else
[01:44]  * GNUdog is away: busy
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> odie5533: do you have software centre open etc?
[01:45] <odie5533> I don't know what software center is
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> odie5533: its the pretty interface folks use to install software
[01:45] <odie5533> oh, no.
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> odie5533: another app which should be closed is synaptic
[01:45] <odie5533> I've always used apt-get since like... way earlier years of ubuntu so I never stopped
[01:46] <karen_> bcessa: use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> odie5533: me too, new users will use the gui though
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> odie5533: does ubottu's command not work?
[01:47] <odie5533> ActionParsnip: It responded, "dpkg: error: dpkg status database is locked by another process"
[01:47] <bcessa> karen_ ok, this is the error message I'm getting http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/656005/
[01:47] <odie5533> ActionParsnip: so nope, didn't work.
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> odie5533: strange, that should clear that off. What is the output of:  ps -ef | grep dpkg
[01:49] <odie5533> heh, sorry, already rebooting
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> odie5533: probably easier ;)
[01:50] <odie5533> my 14 hour uptime! gone... :(
[01:50] <odie5533> lol
[01:51] <JoseP> ActionParsnip: you got a second?
[01:52] <seanmc98> can someone guide me on how to install a tar.gz on ubuntu 11.04 please
[01:52] <mjj09> Hello, can anyone help me debug my wireless connection problem?
[01:53] <karen_> bcessa: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime
[01:54] <epsilon--> Hello.
[01:54] <bcessa> time?
[01:55] <mrNotYou> Hello
[01:55] <mjj09> Hello
[01:55] <kermit> must gconfd eat 12% of my cpu constantly
[01:56] <karen_> seanmc98: read "man tar" and "man gzip" you have an archive like a zip, extract it then look inside
[01:56] <mjj09> Anyone good at debugging wireless problems? Connection was working fine, but a family member attempted to use Ndiswrapper and now the wireless card is not showing up.
[01:56] <seanmc98> karen_: what do you mean?
[01:56] <karen_> your tar.gz is like a .zip file
[01:57] <karen_> extract it using the GUI or CLI
[01:57] <seanmc98> if i double click it it opens with archive manager
[01:57] <karen_> that should do the trick
[01:57] <bcessa> thnx anyway
[01:59] <karen_> mjj09: likely you need to change the driver back to the original, not sure how though..
[01:59] <runicfox> mjj09, have you tried uninstalling ndiswrapper?
[01:59] <mjj09> the driver is showing in lspci, but it doesn't seem to be loading
[02:00] <mjj09> yes
[02:01] <runicfox> mjj09, have you tried ifdown and ifup?
[02:01] <mjj09> no
[02:02] <runicfox> if memory serves, you'll have to sudo it, but try sudo ifdown [interface] && sudo ifup [interface]
[02:02] <runicfox> where [interface] is the name of your networking device.
[02:02] <mjj09> runifox: sudo ifdown wloan0 ?
[02:02] <mjj09> wlan0*
[02:02] <runicfox> yep
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: sup
[02:03] <mjj09> runicfox:   ifdown: interface wlan0 not configured
[02:03] <JoseP> ok so the server is working fine and all until it goes idle. Then it's super slow. Once you enter your password and what not again, it's pretty decent
[02:03] <runicfox> mjj09, okay try sudo ifup wlan0
[02:04] <JoseP> that's what's going on ActionParsnip
[02:04] <mjj09> Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0.
[02:05] <runicfox> hmm...  what is the output of ifconfig -a?
[02:05] <runicfox> see if wlan0 shows up in the resulting output.
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> JoseP: no idea, try asking the channel like everyone else
[02:05] <mjj09> runicfox: no, it's not listed
[02:06] <JoseP> hmm ok
[02:06] <JoseP> also
[02:06] <JoseP> when trying to install 10.04 on another server, this is what I get
[02:06] <JoseP> http://postimage.org/image/24f79fax0/
[02:06] <dli> JoseP, could it be powersaver? or cpufreq?
[02:06] <Fezzler> What is the site that lists the audio capture cards compatible with Ubuntu?  I want to record my guitar.  Does the Edirol UA-25 work?
[02:06] <JoseP> I'm not sure dli
[02:07] <JoseP> what should I try to do first?
[02:07] <dli> JoseP, first, try to get some idea, how it runs slow
[02:07] <JoseP> I'm not sure though
[02:07] <JoseP> it only runs slow when it goes idle
[02:08] <dli> JoseP, how do you find that out?
[02:08] <JoseP> then when you enter the password and log back into the desktop, it works perfectly fine
[02:08] <JoseP> because it takes too long to respond
[02:08] <JoseP> even over SSH
[02:08] <witeshark> is thunderbird better at preventing bad code execution by default than evolution?
[02:08] <seanmc98> ?
[02:09] <seanmc98> karen_: PM/
[02:09] <dli> JoseP, it happens to ssh only, or have tested other stuff
[02:09] <JoseP> well ssh is the only way of me accessing it remotely
[02:09] <runicfox> mjj09, have you tried reinstalling the drivers for your wireless device?
[02:09] <JoseP> dli picture this
[02:09] <JoseP> you don't move your mouse for a while and the computer idles
[02:09] <mjj09> runicfox, how would I do that?
[02:09] <JoseP> when you start moving the mouse again, it takes a while for the password screen to come back
[02:10] <JoseP> then you enter your password, and log back in
[02:10] <runicfox> mjj09, do you know what kind of wireless card you have?
[02:10] <dli> JoseP, if you keep your ssh session open, does it ever slow down?
[02:10] <JoseP> after that, it all goes back to normal
[02:10] <JoseP> I don't think it will
[02:10] <JoseP> what I'm going to do, is put caffeine on it I guess
[02:10] <runicfox> you should be able to tell some basic information from the output of lspci
[02:10] <mjj09> runicfox, lspci lists: 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset 6 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 05)
[02:10] <dli> JoseP, it sounds like ssh login issue, rather than system
[02:10] <JoseP> well
[02:10] <JoseP> even if I don't use the ssh
[02:10] <JoseP> it's the actual computer
[02:11] <JoseP> get rid of ssh for a while
[02:11] <runicfox> mjj09, is that the only output from lspci?
[02:11] <JoseP> to go into the actual computer physically
[02:11] <JoseP> it still takes a while
[02:11] <mjj09> no, there are many lines
[02:11] <JoseP> I'm aware it's not an ssh issue
[02:11] <runicfox> can you pastebin the output for me to look at?
[02:11] <dli> JoseP, do you run screensaver?
[02:11] <JoseP> no it just goes black
[02:11] <JoseP> screensaver would take up a little more than I want to
[02:12] <dli> JoseP, I'm helping you on troubleshooting :(
[02:12] <JoseP> so should I put a screensaver?
[02:13] <dli> JoseP, does screen goes blank currently?
[02:13] <mjj09> runicfox, http://pastebin.com/tBFG3ZwV
[02:13] <Bianca20_03> servers
[02:13] <JoseP> if you let it sit long enough it'll go black
[02:13] <JoseP> I don't have a screensaver on it
[02:14] <dli> JoseP, if you want to test speed, you may simply run some cron job to measure speed by itself
[02:14] <JoseP> ok
[02:15] <JoseP> how would I do that?
[02:15] <dli> JoseP, disable power-manager powersaving, disable any cpufreq
[02:15] <MACscr_lappy> whats the default password for the live cd?
[02:16] <dli> MACscr_lappy, no, password, just press enter
[02:17] <JoseP> dli, the computer doesn't go to sleep... The display does
[02:17] <cmoixxx> user:ubuntu password:just press enter
[02:17] <JoseP> when the display goes to sleep then is when bad stuff starts happening
[02:17] <runicfox> mjj09, try getting the drivers off of this site: http://bit.ly/c9ERMD
[02:18] <dli> JoseP, disable all powersaving features, like hard drive to sleep
[02:18] <JoseP> yea that wasn't even on in the first place
[02:18] <runicfox> mjj09, you'll need to choose Wireless Networking in the first column, 'Intel Wifi Products' in the second, and then 'Intel Wifi Linkn 5300 and Intel Wifi Link 5100 Products' in the third.
[02:19] <runicfox> mjj09, then select the Linux operating system and grab the driver from there.
[02:20] <dli> JoseP, again, I suggest you to enable public key login for ssh, disable UseDNS for ssh, and try again to check ssh login speed
[02:20] <runicfox> or you could just grab: http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/iwlwifi/downloads/iwlwifi-5000-ucode-8.83.5.1-1.tgz
[02:20] <JoseP> dli it's not just ssh
[02:21] <JoseP> it's the actual machine
[02:21] <mjj09> runicfox, I'll download that link :)
[02:22] <runicfox> that archive has a Readme file in it that should help point you in the right direction.
[02:22] <mjj09> runicfox, finished downloading
[02:23] <ogopogo> how to run ubuntu from usb?
[02:23] <chaitu> ogopogo: you need to have the usb act as installer
[02:24] <infobit> ogopogo, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[02:24] <ogopogo> chaitu: do i need to partition my HDD
[02:24] <ogopogo> since i run win 7
[02:24] <chaitu> nope.
[02:24] <chaitu> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[02:25] <chaitu> ah infobit :)
[02:25] <infobit> ogopogo, fallow link and click show me in side http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[02:25] <heckman> Is there a way to get an Ubuntu LiveCD to boot with low-res graphics?
[02:26] <heckman> I'm trying to boot 10.10 and all I get is artifacted video on screen.
[02:26] <cconstantine_> #nodejs
[02:26] <mjj09> runicfox,
[02:26] <mjj09> grep \"^FIRMWARE_DIR\" /etc/hotplug/firmware.agent
[02:26] <mjj09> grep: /etc/hotplug/firmware.agent: No such file or directory
[02:26] <chaitu> heckman: click on advance options and see if you can choose noapic?
[02:26] <dli> heckman, try safe graphic mode: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[02:27] <heckman> ty, it's bugging me.  11.04 disc loads fine.
[02:27] <runicfox> mjj09, what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[02:27]  * heckman tries now
[02:27] <mjj09> runicfox, 11.04
[02:28] <ogopogo> is it possible to run ubuntu without mess my HDD, i want to try ubuntu
[02:28] <heckman> dli: that doesn't exist...
[02:28] <heckman> Ahahaha
[02:28] <JoseP> ogopogo: run a VM
[02:28] <chaitu> ogopogo: yes..it will ask you if you want to install or try ubuntu
[02:28] <infobit> ogopogo, DID YOU got it
[02:28] <ogopogo> not download yet
[02:29] <chaitu> ogopogo: download the iso and boot the cd. it will give you the options I specified
[02:29] <infobit> ogopogo, got the instructions
[02:29] <ogopogo> kk
[02:31] <runicfox> mjj09, does your wirless device display in the output of sudo lshw -C network?
[02:31] <mjj09> runicfox, PCI (sysfs)
[02:32] <mjj09> runicfox, *-network UNCLAIMED
[02:32] <mjj09>        description: Network controller
[02:32] <mjj09>        product: PRO/Wireless 5100 AGN [Shiloh] Network Connection
[02:32] <mjj09>        vendor: Intel Corporation
[02:32] <mjj09>        physical id: 0
[02:32] <Stormx2> Hi. For some reason I've got a blank terminal window that, when closed, re-launches itself saying "Welcome to orca, current desktop environment is classic gnome!" in a scary robot voice. How do I get rid of it?
[02:32] <runicfox> yep, it'll take a few seconds to get the output.
[02:32] <mjj09>        bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0
[02:32] <mjj09>        version: 00
[02:32] <FloodBot1> mjj09: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:33] <mouse> if i boot from a pen-drive a.k.a. (USB-ThumbDrive) does synaptic software center allow me to download onto the drive?
[02:33] <heckman> Why is 10.10 sucking.  Ugh
[02:34] <chaitu> mouse: Are you saying you are booting into installed ubuntu?
[02:34] <dli> mouse, you want to use the storage left on it, or you want to modify the live system
[02:34] <JoseP> heckman 11.04 is worse right now
[02:34] <heckman> JoseP: Can't boot the LiveCD for 10.10.  Can boot the 11.04 one.
[02:34] <ogopogo> 685MB
[02:34] <szal> mouse: the pkgs will download to wherever /var/cache/apt/ is located
[02:34] <JoseP> that sucks
[02:35] <mouse> no i want to download packages on the thumbdrive
[02:35] <heckman> For some reason it's pissed with my graphics.
[02:35] <runicfox> mjj09, okay, just for giggles have you tried sudo service networking restart?
[02:35] <szal> mouse: and if the above mentioned dir is not on the thumbdrive, you can still copy the pkgs there
[02:36] <mouse> szal i don't know that's what im asking?
[02:36] <mjj09> runicfox, before we started doing anything, yes I think so (sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart)
[02:37] <Ubuntu1104Sugar> mouse: only if the USB has persistence....
[02:37]  * Ubuntu1104Sugar otherwise it will load into memory
[02:37] <mjj09> runicfox, ran it again, didn't seem to change anything
[02:38] <TrentonAdams> is there any sort of tool to continually display an alpha transparency of an image over my desktop at all times?  Either that, or an application that displays the current language keyboard over my desktop at all times. :D
[02:38] <Ubuntu1104Sugar> use ubuntu startup disk creator and set persistence
[02:38] <mouse> kk  i'll try that sometime
[02:38] <heckman> All I want is flipping Ubuntu 10.10.  Seems to be impossible
[02:38] <Moral_> where is my password stored?
[02:38] <runicfox> can you pastebin the contents of /etc/network/interfaces for me?
[02:39] <runicfox> as well as the output from iwconfig?
[02:39] <szal> Moral_: most probably in /etc/passwd, but not in human-readable form
[02:39] <ldr> Moral_: /etc/shadow ;)
[02:39] <szal> ah, right, /etc/passwd is an executable
[02:39] <Phase> I'm having what I would consider to be a small issue with this bash script I'm writing, would anyone mind looking for me? http://sprunge.us/iacf
[02:40] <szal> nah, I'm talking sh**
[02:40] <Moral_> ldr, thanks
[02:40] <Moral_> what is this sha256 or salted md5?
[02:40] <mjj09> runicfox, http://pastebin.com/vBXf0smM
[02:40] <ldr> no /etc/password it consists of all infos besides passwort for user account
[02:41] <szal> ldr: right
[02:42] <runicfox> try adding  these two lines to /etc/network/interfaces:
[02:42] <runicfox> auto wlan0
[02:42] <runicfox> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[02:42] <runicfox> then restart the networking service.
[02:42] <ldr> Moral_: "$id$salt$encrypted", where "$id" is the hashing algorithm used (On linux, "$1$" stands for MD5, "$2$" is Blowfish, "$5$" is SHA-256 and "$6$" is SHA-512
[02:43] <Moral_> I got a $6$
[02:43] <Moral_> im fucked
[02:43] <Moral_> lol
[02:43] <Moral_> god damnit
[02:43] <FloodBot1> Moral_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:43] <szal> !language | Moral_
[02:43] <ldr> whats your problem moral_?
[02:43] <mjj09> runicfox, wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[02:43] <ldr> maybe their is another solution
[02:44] <Moral_> well I have my old laptop, and I forgot my password. and there are like 250 movies that I want to transfer to my current laptop
[02:44] <Moral_> the only other way is to root it
[02:44] <ldr> one easy way is:
[02:44] <runicfox> okay, back out that change and restart networking one more time.  that obviously didn't work.
[02:44] <runicfox> and unfortunately, i've got to go (my infant daughter is starting to wake up).
[02:44] <ldr> boot some kind of live cd
[02:44] <ldr> one sec i query you
[02:44] <Moral_> yeah, I have access to the partition, via windows 7
[02:44] <mjj09> tyvm for the help runic :)
[02:45] <Hellscoffe> i think it is useful if u do waht ldr is saying..boot some kind of ubuntu live cd and try to acess them
[02:45] <szal> Moral_: then where's the problem?
[02:45] <xrfang> I am using syslog4j, it seems that my ubuntu's rsyslogd does not receive udp log message from the java program. I wonder if udp logging is supported by rsyslogd or not?
[02:45] <Moral_> szal, I still want to use the computer without formatting it.
[02:47] <TrentonAdams> how do I re-assign my right control key to be the right control key?  I'm using a multilingual canadian keyboard, and that key doesn't do anything.
[02:48] <soreau> TrentonAdams: maybe xmodmap
[02:49]  * szal hasn't heard of left and right Ctrl keys doing different things yet
[02:49] <szal> Alt keys, yes, in most keyboard layouts right Alt = AltGr, calling 3rd key layer (or 4th, in combination w/ Shift)
[02:50] <jacob_> nhjn
[02:50] <jacob_> whats up
[02:50] <jacob_> leaving
[02:50] <jacob_> lkasjdfasjdf
[02:50] <jacob_> asdfkasjdf
[02:50] <jacob_> asf
[02:50] <jacob_> asf
[02:50] <FloodBot1> jacob_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:50] <Guest63667> f
[02:50] <szal> jacob_: please clean your keyboard outside the channel
[02:50] <Guest63667> asdf
[02:54] <cane99> hello
[02:54] <cane99> need help with how to configure email for a new domain with postfix
[02:55] <cane99> I would like to receive incoming emails from my domain on my home server
[02:55] <cane99> anyone still up-lol
[02:55] <szal> !patience | cane99
[02:55]  * wildbat is dead.
[02:57] <Boomboy> can someone please help me in figuring out how to have keyboard shortcuts in kubuntu? system settings ->keyboard shortcuts doesnt help
[02:58] <Projekt2> cane99,  try http://www.howtoforge.com/ lots of good stuff there
[02:58] <ph3arr3t> hi all, does someone have time to help me as both eth0 and wlan0 are not connecting online
[03:00] <ldr> TrentonAdams: can you try run xev and see which codes are produced when you press left and right control?
[03:03] <ldr> ph3arr3t did you need help?
[03:04] <lectularius> -->
[03:06] <qin> cane99: Do you have static ip from isp?
[03:08] <seclm193> is anyone hanving my problem.  during certain times, my mouse just disappearing until i move it again.  how do i disable this?
[03:08] <gamingdroid> Does anyone know what the version of modwsgi is in 11.04 and 10.04 LTS?
[03:09] <TrentonAdams> ldr: ISO_Level5_Shift for right control
[03:10] <qin> gamingdroid: http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/libapache2-mod-wsgi
[03:10] <tman_> how do you change openssh's default log file to something else. is it possible?
[03:10] <ldr> TrentonAdams: then try the following create a file in your home called .Xmodmap if their isnt one and write the following line in the file "add Control = Control_L ISO_Level5_Shift"  without the "" of course
[03:11] <ldr> TrentonAdams: then run xmodmap .Xmodmap and see if it has helped
[03:11] <seclm193> Anyone know how to fix this/
[03:11] <seclm193> ?
[03:11] <TrentonAdams> ldr: What are comments in that file?
[03:11] <TrentonAdams> ldr: I mean how to make them?
[03:11] <ldr> ! i think
[03:11] <gamingdroid> qin: thanks. Does this mean it is version 3.3: "Package: libapache2-mod-wsgi (3.3-2ubuntu2) "
[03:12] <qin> tman_: What do you want to log from ssh?
[03:12] <qin> gamingdroid: Apparently.
[03:12] <tman_> all the login attempts succesful or not
[03:12] <TrentonAdams> ldr: vim agrees, it changes color
[03:12] <ldr> TrentonAdams: good to hear :)
[03:12] <tman_> basicly what its logging now but in another file
[03:12] <qin> tman_: last and lastlog
[03:13] <TrentonAdams> ldr: X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
[03:13] <ldr> hmm strange
[03:13] <ldr> one sec
[03:13] <tman_> i don't know how to use those programs can you teach me?
[03:13] <sergio002> oi
[03:13] <ldr> TrentonAdams: you have all blanks and omitted the ""
[03:13] <ldr> ?
[03:14] <qin> tman_: Both come to Ubuntu preconfigured, just: last && lastlog in terminal
[03:14] <TrentonAdams> ldr: YES
[03:14] <tman_> alright but how do i tell it where to log
[03:14] <seclm193> is anyone hanving my problem.  during certain times, my mouse just disappearing until i move it again.  how do i disable this?
[03:14] <ldr> TrentonAdams: was their some .xmodmap file already?
[03:15] <rodhash> Hey guys.. I wanna try the xfce environment, so let me ask.. If I install that, will I loose my gnome environemnt & settings?
[03:15] <rodhash> Desktop / compiz / emerald / network manager will all be the same?
[03:15] <TrentonAdams> ldr: or, at least one space in between each thing that is.
[03:15] <ldr> TrentonAdams: yeah thats right
[03:15] <ldr> TrentonAdams: was their already a .Xmodmap file in your home?
[03:15] <TrentonAdams> ldr: made sure there was no .xmodmap, only .Xmodmap
[03:15] <qin> tman_: Do not get it, what is wrong with /var/log/...
[03:15] <TrentonAdams> ldr: yes, ported from my old system, but I removed the lines
[03:16] <ldr> onley "my line" remains?
[03:16] <ldr> can you paste your whole .xmodmap in pastebin
[03:16] <ldr> ?
[03:16] <tman_> just that i dont wanna have to go through it and find all my sshd logins i want just the logins in a seprate file.
[03:16] <Hellscoffe> can anyone please tell me why the GCC keeps giving me the warning that "warning: format '%s' expects type 'char *', but argument 2 has type 'char (*)[100]'"
[03:18] <ldr> TrentonAdams: normally xmodmap accepts a lot of crap so i am wondering what could produce this error message besides some syntax probs
[03:18] <qin> tman_: grep ssh /var/log/auth* > your_log_file
[03:18] <wildbat> Hellscoffe:  ##c or ##c++
[03:19] <TrentonAdams> ldr: http://pastebin.com/ue5cWABg
[03:19] <Hellscoffe> wildbat: ok ok, thanks
[03:19] <gamingdroid> Been trying to find a list of companies using Ubuntu Server as their web server, but unable to find it. Anyone know of a list?
[03:19] <ldr> TrentonAdams: and you run xmodmap .Xmodmap?
[03:19] <IdleOne> gamingdroid: perhaps email canonical, that is not really an Ubuntu support question
[03:19]  * heckman wishes he could get Ubuntu to boot
[03:20] <ldr> hmm
[03:20] <heckman> Starting to reall bother me.
[03:20] <TrentonAdams> ldr: yes, let me paste bin that
[03:20] <tman_> for some reason thats not working
[03:20] <TrentonAdams> http://pastebin.com/wuKYuT3s
[03:20] <TrentonAdams> ldr: ^^
[03:21] <ldr> TrentonAdams: lets query
[03:21] <Carmen> i cant dim mi laptop screen ligth,,is there a package that resolve that ?
[03:21] <tman_> never mind i was looking in the wrong place
[03:21] <tman_> thanks that works really good
[03:21] <qin> tman_: This: grep ssh /var/log/auth* | less
[03:22] <tman_> and i could make a cron job to run that every so often.
[03:24] <tman_> why is the wildcard in the command i understand what it means but why is it needed
[03:25] <Troy^> I am trying to run a script from nautilus but i would also like to run a gnome-terminal with the code inside of it to see the process of the code being run, how would one do this with nautilus
[03:25] <qin> tman_: cron, yes, but different command, ls /var/log to see how it is organized.
[03:26] <unomi> If, by chance, you installed i686 on a x86_64 capable system, is there a way to change over?
[03:26] <PsyCl0ne> Hi all. I was wondering if there was a way that I could connect to my ubuntu ssh server and then connect to a windows share that is on the same network as the ssh server. This will also be done from another network
[03:26] <tman_> one sec what i was really trying to do is make ssh log into a different file in the first place? to make it easier to go through
[03:26] <poi77> Hi -- I have my host connected to a switch, then I shutdown the port on the switch, should I expect the kernel to notice and display something different in ifconfig
[03:26] <unomi> PsyCl0ne: yes.
[03:27] <unomi> PsyCl0ne: there are potentially many ways, really
[03:27] <tman_> i know it can be done but im not sure how
[03:27] <SAChocobo> Hello, I am in desperate need of some help.
[03:27] <PsyCl0ne> unomi: Ill honestly start off with an apology just because Im really new to doing anything remotely and honestly Ive just recently gotten my ssh server up and running. But apart from that how would I go about doing this?
[03:28] <unomi> PsyCl0ne: a fairly simple way would be to mount the windows share as smbfs on the system that you are ssh'ing into, then it will simply appear as any other directory
[03:28] <qin> tman_: hm... moment.
[03:29] <unomi> PsyCl0ne: another way could be to let the computer you are ssh'ing into forward ports for the windows box
[03:29] <tman_> maybe im just being lazy cause thats really what i wanted to do
[03:29] <PsyCl0ne> unomi: I have ubuntu server as my ssh, the latest version I believe as well. So how would I add these shares to the server?
[03:30] <ldr> PsyCl0ne: in one sentence: mount -t cifs \\AdressoftheWindowsBox\Sharename <mountpoint>
[03:30] <unomi> PsyCl0ne: google says: http://forum.visionopen.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=5699
[03:31] <SAChocobo> I recently downloaded the "CompizConfig Settings Manager" from the Ubuntu Software Center, and after messing with it, my dock and top menubar no longer exist. How do I reset the compiz graphics settings (if possible)?
[03:31] <tman_> i need just the sshd login attempts to be logged into their own file how would i do that ive been racking my brain but i dont know how
[03:31] <unomi> PsyCl0ne: if that is complete gibberish to you, then go through this first: http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/mount-an-smbfs-in-ubuntu
[03:31] <PsyCl0ne> ldr, unomi: Thank you both :)
[03:32] <Troy^> I have created a script that pulls the filename of the file i use the script into the code as a variable. Now the code being run is prefered to be viewed and has somewhat user input that would be prefered to view in gnome-terminal. So how does one get the script to run nautilus and as well run the code in a new gnome-terminal in order to view the code
[03:32] <mecablaze> Is it possible to install a .deb file to my home directory?
[03:32] <unomi> PsyCl0ne: note that you might want to have an entry for it in fstab, that way it tries to mount it on every boot
[03:33] <Gaming4JC> Anyone know if I can run command that can tell if a program died and relaunch it about every 60mins?
[03:33] <unomi> PsyCl0ne: otherwise ofcourse, you could have a lil script that does it for you on demand
[03:33] <PsyCl0ne> unomi: fstab?
[03:33] <qin> tman_: look at example 2 in man inotifywait, you will run script to monitor auth.log and make live update.
[03:33] <Gaming4JC> I need it for a server. I think cronjob might work...
[03:33] <tman_> ok
[03:33] <tman_> one sec
[03:33] <unomi> PsyCl0ne: man fstab    and less /etc/fstab
[03:33] <Gaming4JC> it's a temp fix until we fix the bug causing the exe to die :P
[03:33] <shane> #
[03:33] <unomi> PsyCl0ne: basically it is a file which lists the filesystems to attempt to mount
[03:34] <ldr> tman_: i just read your problem what about configuring your syslog?
[03:34] <Gaming4JC> nvm I'm googling it
[03:34] <ldr> tman_: if you are using rsyslog(standard on ubuntu afaik) have a look at this http://www.kiwilight.com/etc/rsyslog.conf
[03:34] <tman_> alright
[03:34] <PsyCl0ne> unomi: ok thank you, Ill have to read the howtogeek site though. If I have any questions mind if I hit you up again?
[03:35] <unomi> ldr: any hints on switching a system over from i686 to _64?
[03:35] <ldr> tman_: their you should find some pretty good example how to log stuff in diffrent files depending on programm
[03:35] <unomi> PsyCl0ne: that is what we are here for
[03:35] <PsyCl0ne> :)
[03:35] <ldr> unomi: sorry no i am pretty new to this 64bit stuff
[03:35] <unomi> PsyCl0ne: don't take references to `man something` as anything but an affirmation that I believe you deserve to know where to get the full information ;)
[03:35] <qin> tman_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/656059/
[03:36] <SAChocobo> Erm... I can haz halp?
[03:36] <DangerOnTheRangr> Sure :)
[03:36] <Guest87172> I'd like to set up my desktop to run win7 on ssd/and a 500gb for storage, with another 500 for ubuntu
[03:37] <Guest87172> pretty simple, right? I imagine I just format the extra hdd
[03:37] <Guest87172> then install ubuntu over the top
[03:37] <SAChocobo> I recently downloaded the "CompizConfig Settings Manager" from the Ubuntu Software Center, and after messing with it, my dock and top menubar no longer exist. How do I reset the compiz graphics settings (if possible)?
[03:37] <ldr> tman_:if you have trouble using this tell me i really dont think messing around with cronjobs copying stuff out of log files is the best solution
[03:37] <DangerOnTheRangr> Guest87172: Make sure to install Windows first - Windows has a notorious record of erasing the MBR
[03:38] <adubz> how can i specify to look for just two interfaces ifconfig wlan or eth
[03:38] <adubz> and not show loopback
[03:39] <DangerOnTheRangr> SAChocobo:  gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz in a terminal should do the trick 		
[03:39] <unomi> SAChocobo: have a look in the compiz panel and see if you unticked "Ubuntu Unity Plugin"
[03:39] <SAChocobo> I tried that twice now...
[03:39] <zeppelin101> is it possible to unmap the 'super
[03:39] <tman_> ive never edited this before and i need help if you could
[03:39] <zeppelin101> key?
[03:39] <tman_> ?
[03:40] <qin> tman_: So for ssh this should work (you can this script to crontab with @boot): http://paste.ubuntu.com/656061/
[03:40] <zeppelin101> anyone know if it is possible to unmap the 'super' key (with Windows logo on it)?
[03:40] <qin> tman_: Sorry @reboot
[03:40] <unomi> SAChocobo: in the settings manager there is also a "Preferences" section
[03:40] <dli> zeppelin101, xmodmap?
[03:40] <zeppelin101> aha
[03:40] <zeppelin101> p
[03:41] <unomi> In there there is a "Reset to defaults" button
[03:41] <SAChocobo> I pressed it
[03:41] <goodtime>  does anybody know how to fstab a hdd
[03:41] <unomi> goodtime: in the face
[03:41] <Carmen> is there a package that help identify controllers on my pc,,i cant dim desktop
[03:41] <zeppelin101> actually all i dont want it to do is launch the window where i can type what app to launch
[03:41] <zeppelin101> i guess it's convenient for other purposes, though
[03:41] <unomi> or 3 inches left of the sternum
[03:41] <goodtime> the face?
[03:42] <goodtime> hahaha
[03:42] <KruyKaze> hi everyone , how do i add another HDD and have the system treat the 2 as one filesystem?
[03:42] <goodtime> ok
[03:42] <unomi> goodtime: have a look at `man fstab`
[03:43] <goodtime> ok
[03:43] <goodtime> ty unomi
[03:43] <Troy^> I am trying to run a script from nautilus but i would also like to run a gnome-terminal with the code inside of it to see the process of the code being run, how would one do this with nautilus
[03:43] <tman_> would the cron tab look like "@boot /home/tman/ssh_log.sh" ?
[03:43] <ldr> tman_: you see the query?
[03:43] <unomi> goodtime: it sometimes helps to have /etc/fstab open next to the man pages
[03:43] <qin> tman_: @reboot
[03:43] <unomi> goodtime: makes it easier to create a link
[03:43] <SAChocobo> OMG
[03:44] <PsyCl0ne> ldr: when you gave me this command "mount -t cifs \\AdressoftheWindowsBox\Sharename <mountpoint>" what exactly is the mount point?
[03:44] <tman_> so everytime i reboot it would pipe the auth.log into another file
[03:44] <OmegaForte> PsyCl0ne, The mount point is where you want the remote to link locally.
[03:44] <ldr> PsyCl0ne, whatever you want it to be
[03:44] <tman_> just greping the ssh logins
[03:44] <SAChocobo> unomi: You were right. It was the checkbox...
[03:44] <OmegaForte> PsyCl0ne, Like /home/remote_box?
[03:44] <ldr> PsyCl0ne, make some folder like mkdir /mnt/windows1
[03:44] <ldr> and use it
[03:45] <goodtime> hmmm
[03:45] <SAChocobo> omg, thank you soooooo much
[03:45] <ldr> tman_:you see the query i am wirting to you?
[03:45] <rahul> hi
[03:45] <cyanyde> hi
[03:45] <tman_> on pastebin
[03:46]  * SAChocobo gives unomi a brohug and runs off
[03:46] <PsyCl0ne> ldr: Oh thank you.
[03:46] <qin> tman_: Well, both. inotify trigger grep and pipe in case of modification auth.log, rest is simple, one more mistake, instead of > should be >>
[03:46] <PsyCl0ne> OmegaForte: Thank you as well :)
[03:46] <tman_> oh ok
[03:47] <K-Rich> y'all wanna see a cute pic of my kid?
[03:47] <rahul> hi
[03:47] <rahul> ubuntu user
[03:47] <K-Rich> http://imagebin.org/165859
[03:47] <rahul> hi k-rich
[03:47] <fowl> pedo
[03:47] <qin> tman_: You also want to add, "if then" to limit number of lines in your file, or do it manually from time to time.
[03:50] <tman_> im gonna reboot and see if i put it in right ok
[03:50] <Carmen> i cant dim my laptop creen
[03:50] <tman_> ill be back on in a few minutes
[03:50] <Carmen> is there a cotroller that help me resolve this
[03:50] <tman_> qin ill be back on in a few minutes
[03:51] <qin> tman_: Ok
[03:51] <wad> Hi folks. I'm trying to work with a netbook running ubuntu, and it's got a file in the home directory that is making me go nuts. Apparently it has something to do with gnome desktop. ls -ls shows it like this:
[03:51] <wad> d?????????  ? ?     ?           ?                ? .gvfs
[03:51] <ldr> Carmen: what does "cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness" say?
[03:51] <wad> Er, I meant "ls -la". Sorry.
[03:52] <wad> I can't delete the file, move it, or anything. It's making it bear to try to backup the filesystem.
[03:52] <qin> wad: How do you back up?
[03:53] <wad> qin: This computer's display is dead. So I connected to it on the network, and tried a "scp -r" from the home directory. This file killed that effort completely.
[03:53] <qin> wad: rsync have --exclude option
[03:53] <wad> I can try that.
[03:53] <PsyCl0ne> I made a directory on the ssh server /mnt/winmov, then I tried mounting the windows shares with the command "sudo mount -t cifs \\192.168.0.100\Movies /mnt/winmov" , but I get the error out put of http://pastebin.com/eQrFu2jz what did I do wrong?
[03:54] <lsv> would there be any explanation as to why my wireless card would disappear after rebooting?
[03:54] <theadmin> PsyCl0ne: Put the share name in single quotes.
[03:55] <theadmin> PsyCl0ne: i.e., mount -t cifs '\\192.168.0.100\Movies' /mnt/winmov
[03:55] <TrentonAdams> lsv: Did someone steal it?
[03:55] <PsyCl0ne> theadmin: I think I broke it my terminal has a > with a flashing cursor...
[03:55] <lsv> lol
[03:56] <TrentonAdams> lsv: hehe
[03:56] <theadmin> PsyCl0ne: Hit Ctrl+C
[03:56] <TrentonAdams> lsv: Sorry, just checking the obvious. lol
[03:56] <theadmin> PsyCl0ne: And try again
[03:56] <TrentonAdams> lsv: Seriously though, what do you mean by "dissappear"?
[03:56] <lsv> TrentonAdams: I'm pretty sure, the card is still there
[03:56] <theadmin> PsyCl0ne: Or actually you can try: mount -t cifs \\\\192.168.0.100\\Movies /mnt/winmov
[03:56] <PsyCl0ne> theadmin: it spat out the same error
[03:57] <lsv> the computer wont find it
[03:57] <TrentonAdams> lsv: "ifconfig -a" show anything?
[03:57] <theadmin> PsyCl0ne: \ is an escape character in bash you see
[03:57] <adubz> how would i specify with one command ifconfig wlan and eth
[03:57] <lsv> I turn off the computer, let me boot it up
[03:57] <PsyCl0ne> theadmin: same error with the command that you just gave me
[03:58] <ldr> hmm strange
[03:58] <lsv> TrentonAdams: It is back :D
[03:58] <Kijutsu> Is there any software available for Ubunutu to host a streaming video webcam?
[03:58] <theadmin> PsyCl0ne: Odd, I'm not sure cifs is the right filesystem type then
[03:58] <TrentonAdams> lsv: hmm, that is very odd.  Sounds almost like a driver bug or system bug of some sort.
[03:58] <lsv> the problem now is I need to make it work
[03:58] <qin> Kijutsu: vlc?
[03:58] <TrentonAdams> lsv: next time try restarting it in the connection applet
[03:58] <ldr> PsyCl0ne, y mistake you have to use // instead of \\
[03:59] <ldr> cifs is right btw
[03:59] <Kijutsu> qin: Long story short -- I'm looking to host a webcam strea m for others.
[03:59] <TrentonAdams> lsv: hopefully there won't be a next time though p)
[03:59] <lsv> TrentonAdams: I'm trying to set up the card, but I have no luck.
[03:59] <PsyCl0ne> theadmin: Well Im not sure what file system you could be looking for, the shares are on an NTFS partition
[03:59] <ldr> PsyCl0ne in windows you use \\ in linux you use // my mistake as i said
[03:59] <TrentonAdams> lsv: oh, why not?
[03:59] <theadmin> PsyCl0ne: Do how ldr said
[04:00] <lsv> TrentonAdams: I don't know, I get all sort of weird msg.
[04:00] <TrentonAdams> lsv: Hmm, probably can't help you there then.  I'm no expert on wirless cards in linux
[04:01] <lsv> TrentonAdams: Noooooooooooooooooooooooo!!  I mean, no problem, thanks :D
[04:01] <TrentonAdams> lsv: I was hoping it would just be a module not loading, which I could help you with. :P
[04:02] <theadmin> lsv: There's a cool guide on configuring wireless in Linux here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wireless_Setup (please ignore the Arch-specific bits, such as those refering to /etc/rc.conf or pacman)
[04:02] <theadmin> lsv: If that helps at all.
[04:02] <lsv> TrentonAdams: thanks.
[04:03] <dibblego> how do I change the text editor that .sh files open with?
[04:04] <theadmin> dibblego: You right-click them, go to Properties and choose the "Open With" tab.
[04:04] <dibblego> theadmin: will that setting persist?
[04:04] <theadmin> dibblego: Yes.
[04:04] <dibblego> great thanks
[04:04] <TheMoonMan> yo
[04:04] <TheMoonMan> hmm
[04:04] <theadmin> dibblego: No problems.
[04:05] <tman_> qin i tried it but it didnt pipe it out to that file. do you have to edit roots crontab?
[04:07] <lsv> theadmin: thanks, I'll give a look
[04:10] <tman_> qin still haven't gotten it to work
[04:11] <tman_> qin heres what i put in crontab @reboot /home/tman/scripts/ssh_log.sh thats where i put the script
[04:12] <gliss> so, I had to reinstall the ubuntu-desktop to fix a user issue on my natty install
[04:12] <TheMoonMan> test
[04:12] <gliss> and then deleted a problem user account with sudo userdel -rf username
[04:12] <zeppelin101> how can i obtain more information about a package? i tried apt-cache showpkg [pkg_name] but this wasn't very helpful
[04:13] <gliss> and now when i try to run users-admin its hoarked...cant add a user, or do anything
[04:13] <gliss> it never gives me the auth window, but I can see it flash with an authentication failed message of some sort
[04:14] <qin> tman_: Script in path, run script (no reboot) and try to connect to ssh to check it.
[04:15] <tman_> ok
[04:15] <ldr> some totally stupid question how do i copy and paste out of xchat?
[04:15] <tman_> can i connect on my local loopback
[04:15] <theadmin> ldr: I think the usual way
[04:15] <smegzor> Recently my graphics shuts down (black screens) a short time into playing any game that uses accelerated graphics.  I'm running 10.04 with official NVidia drivers and 2 monitors.  What can I try that might fix this?  When it happens, programs still run and I can hear the game, but I can't get a display at all and I can't remote in.  It seems to knock out ssh as well.
[04:15] <theadmin> ldr: Or you can always use mousepaste
[04:15] <ldr> theadmin: thanks i got it
[04:16] <wols> tman_: ssh listens on normally all interfaces, incl. loopback, so yes
[04:16] <tman_> turns out it cant find inotifywait
[04:16] <tman_> on my machine
[04:16] <tman_> qin is it in the inotify-tools package?
[04:17] <tman_> there it looks like it works ill log in
[04:17] <PsyCl0ne> Back, netbook crapped out.
[04:18] <qin> tman_: sudo apt-get install inotify-tools
[04:18] <mecablaze> Is there a way to install g++-multilib as non-root, i.e. to my home dir?
[04:18] <gliss> is there a way to reinstall the users-admin tool, or repair the system settings applications?
[04:18] <PsyCl0ne> Ok so I think Ive gotten the share mounted, but now how do I access it?
[04:18] <Gasseus> Umm... I'm trying to open an ssh tunnel, and it giving me an error "channel 3: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed"
[04:19] <ldr> PsyCl0ne: how to you want to access it? through ssh i thought this should be possible now
[04:20] <PsyCl0ne> Gasseus: I am also having this issue with my ssh server but it starts to spam various numbers instead of just 3
[04:20] <rww> Gasseus: is the port on your local machine under 1024? if so, you need to be root
[04:20] <rww> I think it's 1024 anyway. something around there.
[04:20] <Gasseus> The port on the local machine is 8080
[04:20] <rww> hrm.
[04:20] <Gasseus> "ssh -D 8080 10.0.0.134"
[04:20] <Gasseus> using KBA
[04:21] <PsyCl0ne> ldr: I dont know what you mean exactly, Im speaking to you through the ssh server and the shares still dont show up
[04:21] <Gasseus> PsyCl0ne what are you trying to do?
[04:21] <KSHawkEye> Does anyone know if there is a way to change the group of a file, without root access? chgrp seems to need root access
[04:22] <centr0> how do i turn off that LOUD computer beep when i shutdown?
[04:22] <PsyCl0ne> Gasseus: Access my win 7 shares through the ssh server
[04:22] <NikolaiKorvansky> I'm installing openSSH right now. I'll message if I get the same problems.
[04:22] <Gasseus> PsyCl0ne Umm.. do samba mount on the server then use SSHfs on the local machine?
[04:23] <PsyCl0ne> Gasseus: Im really new to all this so gonna have to google a ton of stuff lol
[04:23] <blade_> PsyCl0ne, samba has a gui that will make life so much easer for what your doing
[04:23] <Gasseus> blade_ He's on a server
[04:23] <blade_> Gasseus, ahh ok sorry
[04:24] <gliss> is there a way to reinstall the users-admin tool from the system settings control center?
[04:24] <Gasseus> Psycl0ne http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-network-file-systems-nfssamba-in-ubuntu.html
[04:24] <wols> PsyCl0ne: why would CIFS work over ssh?
[04:24] <Gasseus> and then you can mount via sshfs
[04:24] <PsyCl0ne> Gasseus: Ive just completed that
[04:24] <wols> PsyCl0ne: if you want to encrypt your connection, use a VPN
[04:24] <Gasseus> PsyCl0ne so you can access the files on your server?
[04:25] <PsyCl0ne> wols: I dont know what Im doing I know what I have and want
[04:25] <tman_> qin thank you very much for putting up with my rambling. sorry if i started to annoy you a little.
[04:25] <wols> it's your waste of time
[04:25] <PsyCl0ne> Gasseus: Actually Im connected to my ubuntu server that is my ssh tunnel and my win 7 shares are on the same network. Im actually doing this remotely
[04:25] <Gasseus> So...
[04:26] <Gasseus> Windows 7 shares are on same network as ubuntu server, and your on a different network?
[04:26] <PsyCl0ne> yup
[04:26] <Gasseus> Ook
[04:26] <PsyCl0ne> thats why im going through SSH
[04:26] <Gasseus> What you want to do is follow that guide I linked you on the server
[04:26] <PsyCl0ne> done
[04:26] <Gasseus> not on local machine, on server
[04:26] <PsyCl0ne> mhm
[04:26] <wols> PsyCl0ne: can you ping your windows host?
[04:27] <Gasseus> and then on your local machine, "sudo apt-get install sshfs"
[04:27] <PsyCl0ne> wols: through my server or from where I am currently?
[04:27] <wols> from where you are currently
[04:28] <wols> for CIFS you need a working connection to the CIFS server obviously
[04:28] <witeshark> What windows email malware can lock Evolution and the whole GUI during preview?
[04:28] <Gasseus> Psycl0ne Did you install sshfs?
[04:28] <qin> tman_: Cool, a bit busy, does it work?
[04:28] <gliss> anyone?
[04:29] <blade_> gliss, are you talking about the tab on the menu bar?
[04:29] <tman_> yeah at first it because i didnt have inotify-tools package installed
[04:29] <Exodeus> hey
[04:29] <PsyCl0ne> Gasseus: it was unable to find the packeet
[04:29] <PsyCl0ne> packet*\
[04:29] <wols> gliss: can you use sudo on the commandline or in a xterm?
[04:29] <PsyCl0ne> package** fml
[04:29] <tman_> after i installed it the script worked like a charm
[04:30] <wols> !info sshfs
[04:30] <tman_> so thank you very much
[04:30] <Gasseus> PsyCl0ne Its sshfs
[04:30] <qin> tman_: Well, should tell you that it is not shipped with system.
[04:30] <PsyCl0ne> yea got it now
[04:30] <wols> PsyCl0ne: then your ubuntu is misconfigured
[04:30] <tman_> i figured that out
[04:30] <tman_> lol
[04:31] <PsyCl0ne> wols: no no it was a typo
[04:31] <gliss> blade: If you open System Settings, from the Indicator Applet on the panel...there is a utility called 'Users and Groups'
[04:31] <Exodeus> anyone have problems updating from 10.10 to 11.04??
[04:31] <gliss> The application is somehow hoarked on my Ubuntu 11.04
[04:31] <PsyCl0ne> wols: ok so I actually dont know much about these windows file systems and such like you were trying to ask me above. I do have access to my ssh server and my shares are available to all
[04:32] <Gasseus> PsyCl0ne Once you're done with that, do "sudo sshfs username@host:/path/that/samba/share/is/mounted/on/server /path/to/mount/locally"
[04:32] <gliss> I can't do anything at all with a user in that utility
[04:32] <blade_> gliss, have you right clicked on the menu and tried to "edit menu" to see if you can find it?
[04:32] <wols> gliss: I asked you something
[04:32] <gliss> blade: its there, it just doesn't work right
[04:32] <blade_> gliss, it may just be hidden and need to be checked again... wols knows way more about 11.4 than i
[04:33] <gliss> wols: sorry, I missed it? what did you ask?
[04:34] <gliss> wols: when i try to start it using 'sudo users-admin' it opens, and just sits there greyed out
[04:35] <gliss> I can manage users in terminal using useradd and other commands, but not in the gui using the users-admin utility
[04:36] <theadmin> gliss: There should be a button saying "unlock", or looking like a key, or like a lock. Press it.
[04:36] <dr_willis> you may want to try  gksudo users-admin
[04:37] <gliss> theadmin: I don't see that button...I remember seeing it before...but its gone now
[04:37] <xerxeslins> hello. sorry my english. how i recover my password nickname? thank you
[04:37] <theadmin> xerxeslins: Try booting Ubuntu in single-user mode, and run "passwd your_username" there.
[04:38] <dr_willis> gliss:  the window is maxamized? button may be off screen
[04:38] <blade_> xerxeslins, do you need to recover both your user name and your password?
[04:38] <gliss> drwillis: It does the same thing as when I sudo users-admin...just hangs greyed out and I have to force quit to close it
[04:38] <gliss> and no...the window is not maximized
[04:39] <dr_willis> gliss:   odd. thats compiz's way of saying an app is not respondig.
[04:39] <blade_> dr_willis, is that different in 11.4 than in 10.10 as i have mine open and do not see the icon you and theadmin are talking about
[04:39] <xerxeslins> theamin and blade: thank you. sorry but my question is about nickname IRC. i dont know where request help
[04:39] <theadmin> xerxeslins: #freenode
[04:39] <xerxeslins> oh thanx!
[04:39] <xerxeslins> =)
[04:40] <gliss> so that utility is part of compiz? any idea how to maybe reinstall it?
[04:40] <blade_> dr_willis, would ubuntu tweeks help gliss on this?
[04:40] <gliss> I tried apt-get install reinstall users-settings...but says package not found
[04:40] <theadmin> gliss: No, that utility is not a part of compiz, compiz is the window manager. And by greying the window out it tells you that the app in this window hangs.
[04:41] <dr_willis> gliss:  its not part of compiz.  compiz greys out anythimg that  'dosenot respond'
[04:41] <froes> hi guys.... i am having a problem with ubuntu 10.10... i have edited something on visudo to ignore asking password that works perfectly if i run from tty2, but if insude gnome, it does not work. any ideas ????
[04:41] <PsyCl0ne> Gasseus: so Ive done what youve asked sudo sshfs robbie@sshserver:/mnt/winmov /mnt/winmov but then it spits out read: Connection reset by peer
[04:42] <gliss> dr_willis: This is the output in terminal after I force quit..."Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0."
[04:42] <Gasseus> PsyCl0ne The files are indeed actively mounted on your server?
[04:42] <PsyCl0ne> Gassues: would it make a difference if I were to be tunneling through the ssh server as we speak?
[04:42] <dr_willis> PsyCl0ne:  you dont need to do sshfs as root
[04:42] <PsyCl0ne> Gasseus: How can  i check ?
[04:42] <Gasseus> PsyCl0ne it shouldn't make a difference
[04:42] <Gasseus> To check "ls /mnt/winmov"
[04:43] <Gasseus> on server
[04:43] <AkivaII> sssssssssassssssddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
[04:43] <dr_willis> PsyCl0ne:  can you ssh to the server normally?
[04:43] <PsyCl0ne> Gassues: yea it comes up with a huge list of all the files
[04:43] <Gasseus> Psycl0ne Umm...
[04:43] <PsyCl0ne> dr_willis: I dont understand your question
[04:44] <Gasseus> PsyCl0ne The tunneling might have something to do with it
[04:44] <PsyCl0ne> ok one sec brb
[04:44] <Gasseus> PsyCl0ne Try making your ssh access restrictions to be 2 connections per user rather then 1
[04:45] <Roy__> Hello everyone, I'm having trouble with sftp in Grsync (and other proggies) the sftp connection to remote computer does not show up in Places, but the sftp connection can be seen in a normal Nautilus (Places) window, how can I enable this in Grsync?
[04:45] <PsyCl0ne> Gasseus: through sshd_config correct?
[04:46] <Viking667> 'llo. I'm having a fairly major problem - I've just installed fglrx-8.840, and now I don't have gdm, kdm, nor even xdm. And if I ask apt-get to install them, it tells me it'll have to remove fglrx and fglrx-amdcccle to do so, so it can install x11-utils and a few other things. What's going on here?
[04:46] <Gasseus> PsyCl0ne Honestly i don't know I've always used a perl script for configuration
[04:47] <ldr> PsyCl0ne: have a look at this file /etc/security/limits.conf
[04:48] <blade_> Viking667, try fglxrinfo in terminal
[04:48] <ldr> PsyCl0ne,  it normally limits the parallel connections
[04:49] <Viking667> can't, I'm not yet in X.
[04:51] <PsyCl0ne> ldr: in this file I do not see a max parallel connections option
[04:51] <PsyCl0ne> ldr: would you like a pastebin of it??
[04:51] <blade_> Viking667, you can run that from the command line before you get into x.... you may need to run "sudo aticonfig --initial -f"
[04:51] <Gasseus> its in the ssh conf
[04:52] <PsyCl0ne> Gassues: kk
[04:52] <blade_> Viking667, that will let ati set up your xorg.conf
[04:52] <Gasseus> max parallel connections or something
[04:52] <ldr> PsyCl0ne, no their normally is no limitation set
[04:52] <ldr> PsyCl0ne, maybe you just didnt have one
[04:52] <Gasseus> ldr the default limit is 3 connections per ip simultaneously
[04:52] <ldr> PsyCl0ne, you can in theory limit it through iptables too, but i dont think you did that either
[04:53] <Active_Mancano> Hello! I had a quick question. I just got a netbook, what would be the best linux version for it?
[04:53] <ldr> Gasseus, really then i never needed more, hard to imagine but could be
[04:53] <Gasseus> Active_Mancano I'm sure you can guess the answer to that question based on where you are
[04:54] <theadmin> Active_Mancano: We only support Ubuntu here, PM me if you want my help, cause I wouldn't mind
[04:54] <blade_> Active_Mancano, best bet is to get a few different live cd's and try them out before you install anything and see what fits for you best
[04:54] <zeppelin101> random question: if i build a package from source using 'make', then 'makefile' and delete the extracted dir from which i installed (and thus the original makefile), then removal of the program will need to be done manually, piece by piece?
[04:54] <theadmin> !checkinstall | zeppelin101
[04:55] <Viking667> anyhow, that gives me a xorg.conf, but I had one of those already. What I don't have is a gdm or kdm or even an Xdm.
[04:55] <zeppelin101> theadmin: very cool, thanks
[04:55] <Gasseus> Viking667 Are you online?
[04:56] <Viking667> that gave me four lines...
[04:56] <Viking667> (fglrxinfo)
[04:56] <blade_> Gasseus, please tell me that is rhetorical question
[04:56] <Viking667> Gasseus: uh, yeah, what do you mean by "online"?
[04:56] <Gasseus> Online on the machine you lack the *dm on
[04:56] <Gasseus> blade_ No, just misworded
[04:56] <PsyCl0ne> ldr: I cant find a limit on connection in that file either
[04:57] <blade_> Viking667, have you ran xrandr ? from terminal
[04:57] <Gasseus> Psycl0ne well somewhere is a limit and we can't do anything until its fixed... possibly isp
[04:57] <blade_> Viking667, what i am looking  for is the conflict....
[04:57] <Gasseus> if its ISP there's a solution
[04:57] <ldr> PsyCl0ne, then just put "*         hard    maxlogins       10" in the file limits.conf
[04:57] <Gasseus> albeit messy
[04:57] <ldr> PsyCl0ne, should raise the limit to 10
[04:58] <Viking667> give me a moment...
[04:58] <Gasseus> ldr if there's no config thing, then there's no limit on the machine, meaning its an ISP limit
[04:58] <ldr> PsyCl0ne, if Gasseus is right with his normally limit is 3
[04:58] <ldr> no Gasseus sais if their is no option its is 3 which could very well be the case
[04:58] <Viking667> I'll drop out of X (as it's currently started up as root) and fire it up as the user. I'll have to tweak something at this end though.
[04:58] <Gasseus> Psycl0ne There's a way to evade the ISP limit, should I dig it up for you?
[04:58] <Viking667> I'll be back in about a couple of minutes.
[04:59] <Gasseus> ldr but if there's no conf option there's no limit
[04:59] <PsyCl0ne> Gasseus: hmm if you can but Im not sure I have this limit
[04:59] <Gasseus> Psycl0ne Well nothing can go wrong, except a mediocre degradation in preformance
[05:00] <PsyCl0ne> ok how about this
[05:00] <ldr> Gasseus, i thought you wrote default limit is 3 okay
[05:00] <PsyCl0ne> just because Im so new at this is there a possibility that I have incorrectly setup my SSH server?
[05:00] <Gasseus> PsyCl0ne its "ssh -L 22:localhost:2222 username@host"
[05:00] <Gasseus> ldr well yes, but there's no coded limit in openssh
[05:00] <ldr> no thats true
[05:01] <Gasseus> er wait... hard coded default is -1, or infinite
[05:01] <ldr> ah thanks thats what i thought
[05:01] <ldr> so this ist not his problem
[05:01] <Gasseus> Psycl0ne "ssh -L 2222:localhost:22 user@host"
[05:02] <PsyCl0ne> Gasseus I actually use ssh -p 23566 robbie@sshserver -D 8080
[05:02] <Gasseus> psycl0ne but you need to have ssh go over an ssh tunnel to evade the isp limitation
[05:02] <PsyCl0ne> so we are gonna ssh tunnel an ssh tunnel?
[05:03] <Gasseus> Psycl0ne Yep
[05:03] <Gasseus> :D
[05:03] <Gasseus> First, you do "ssh 2222:localhost:22 username@host"
[05:03] <PsyCl0ne> is that on my laptop ?
[05:03] <Gasseus> then "ssh -D 8080 localhost -p 2222"
[05:03] <Gasseus> yes its on your laptop
[05:04] <Gasseus> make sure all other ssh connections are done before you start
[05:04] <Gasseus> then you do "sshfs -p 2222 user@127.0.0.1:/mnt/whatev /mnt/whatevlocally"
[05:04] <TonyWanis> Anyone nerd hosting?
[05:05] <Gasseus> nerd hosting? Whats nerding?
[05:05] <TonyWanis> *need
[05:05] <PsyCl0ne> Gasseus: ok just double checking so Im already tunneling and Ive got my "Network Proxy" setup as local host then I do what youre instructing me to do right now?
[05:05] <TonyWanis> Gasseus: you Need hosting
[05:05] <Gasseus> oh ok, maybe, what cost?
[05:05] <bazhang> !ot | TonyWanis
[05:05] <ldr> TonyWanis, i take one ssh account for free if you want to give me one ;)
[05:05] <bazhang> TonyWanis, no soliciting here
[05:06] <TonyWanis> Sorry
[05:06] <TonyWanis> Gasseus: Ill pm you
[05:07] <zambezi_> Hello, i am new to Ubuntu, i have installed an ssh server, and i want to set up users, any ideas how i can go about this, thanks in advance
[05:07] <Gasseus> zambezi_ set up users on the machine via adduser
[05:07] <ldr> oh so soliciting did work here okay: " i have this old lamp my grany used for reading and dont really need it anymore...."
[05:07] <blade_> hughes net has a daily download limit.... they make a monitor for windows but do not support Ubuntu has anyone heard of this and a possible solution to this problem?
[05:08] <ldr> zambezi_,  in short run adduser as root
[05:08] <PsyCl0ne> Gasseus: I got this ssh: Could not resolve hostname 2222:localhost:22: Name or service not known  with the first command you gave me
[05:08] <zambezi_> Thank you Gasseus, i am assuming that is a command, and would i also set up the password at the same time
[05:08] <Gasseus> Psycl0ne ok, switch the numbers around
[05:08] <zambezi_> ldr, sounds good, i will give that a shot, thank
[05:08] <ldr> zambezi_, adduser <username> it aks for the password then
[05:08] <ldr> and other stuff
[05:08] <Gasseus> zambezi_ make sure to set up key based auth
[05:09] <PsyCl0ne> Gasseus: same thing
[05:09] <Gasseus> Psycl0ne I'm too tired to think...
[05:09] <zambezi_> thank you, i will check my config files
[05:09] <PsyCl0ne> Gasseus: Its ok I understand kinda what youre trying to do but Im honestly confused as fuck
[05:09] <blade_> Gasseus, that's sad... if this is you tired... and you still have me lost... what does that say for me lol
[05:10] <Gasseus> it might be -R
[05:10] <bazhang> PsyCl0ne, no cursing
[05:10] <PsyCl0ne> sorry
[05:10] <Gasseus> blade_ that you don't know all the intricities of ssh?
[05:10] <blade_> Gasseus, lol and then some
[05:11] <Gasseus> blade_ I just know this stuff because I've had to evade at least a few school proxies in my time
[05:11] <blade_> Gasseus, i'm learning a bit though :)
[05:11] <Gasseus> thats always good
[05:11] <Gasseus> Psycl0ne you could just try putty
[05:11] <Troy^> what would be not allowing me to max my connection in linux?
[05:11] <Gasseus> Troy^ Bandwidth or count?
[05:12] <Troy^> bandwidth wise
[05:12] <Gasseus> if its bandwidth, the answer is lag
[05:12] <goddard> has anyone tried the sevenmachines/flash ?
[05:12] <Troy^> lag ? lol
[05:12] <Gasseus> yeah
[05:12] <Gasseus> long story short, but thats your answer
[05:12] <blade_> Troy^, do you use a router?
[05:13] <PsyCl0ne> ok guys quick question when I first open up a terminal to connect to my ssh server it all goes good then when I begin to browse, that terminal window starts acting up with errors like channel nn: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed. is that normal?
[05:13] <Troy^> yes but i have no problem in windows maxing my connection
[05:13] <alazare619> i need some help with keyboard shortcuts i want to reenable the alt tab and alt f4 and alt f2 functions and xfce doesnt have them by default whats the command i need to add for changing windows closing windows and run command
[05:13] <goddard> https://launchpad.net/~sevenmachines/+archive/flash
[05:13] <goddard> anyone used this?
[05:13] <Gasseus> PsyCl0ne Thats a bug in the latest version of openssh. Do ubuntu-bugs openssh on the local machine shell
[05:13] <alazare619> can someone go to system keyboards and copy the ones for alt f2 alt f4 and alt tab
[05:13] <blade_> Troy^, windows xp and up will hold back 20% of your bandwith for "windows use"
[05:13] <theadmin> alazare619: Xfce does all that... You sure you're not running some awkward window manager on top of Xfce?
[05:14] <Gasseus> blade_ He's asking about linux
[05:14] <blade_> Gasseus, i understand that but he is also telling me that he gets "all" of his bandwith on windows
[05:14] <alazare619> theadmin:  well to be honest im on pclinuxos but i know ubuntu has them by default
[05:14] <Gasseus> Troy^ TCP is set up so that if it detects congestion in any way (lag causes that to be detected), it will reduce the amount of throughput
[05:14] <Gasseus> blade_ Also, the 20% is a myth
[05:14] <theadmin> alazare619: We can't support that...
[05:14] <alazare619> theadmin: so i just need someone to copy the name of the commands for alt f2 alt f4 and alt tab
[05:15] <theadmin> alazare619: PM me, I'll be right back with those shortcuts :D
[05:15] <blade_> Gasseus, ahh ok... still learning :)
[05:15] <Troy^> hmm
[05:15] <Troy^> ? so how do i fix it
[05:15] <mcurran> Anyone here use pygooglevoice?
[05:15] <Gasseus> Troy^ Give your ISP some B&M
[05:16] <mcurran> Or have any hints on how I can fix my microphone?
[05:16] <Troy^> ok no its not my isp
[05:16] <frozenpacket> I just installed Ubuntu on my other Desktop its a HP D530U install worked but the graphics are messed up any one know what i could do to fix it?
[05:16] <Gasseus> Troy^ Its not your isp, your correct. Its lag from your isp that is mistaken as tcp congestion
[05:16] <mcurran> what's your graphics card or chipset frozenpacket?
[05:17] <frozenpacket> mcurran: its stalk had windows XP on it before that ran good but put Ubuntu on and the graphics are messed up
[05:17] <Gasseus> Troy^ Theres absolutely nothing you can do about it
[05:17] <Troy^> well it works fine in windows 7 very easy to max my bandwidth
[05:18] <Gasseus> Troy^ Please read the name of the channel, and tell me that again if you want to annoy me.
[05:18] <Gasseus> I gave you the answer to your problem, you need to accept facts for facts.
[05:18] <Troy^> annoy you? well could it possibly be a driver issue? im sure there is more possibilities
[05:18] <Gasseus> Its how the internet works. Get over it
[05:19] <Troy^> lol no
[05:19] <Nisstyre> yes
[05:19] <Troy^> im not getting near the speeds i should be
[05:19] <blade_> no matter your connection you will always have some lag... no matter the os too
[05:19] <Troy^> but its no problem in another OS
[05:19] <Troy^> ugh
[05:19] <frozenpacket> McPeter: AGP8X
[05:19] <Gasseus> If you want, go on google and search inurl:ietf.org intitle:"tcp slow start"
[05:19] <mcurran> frozenpacket:  I will need to know the graphics card make/model in order to provide any help.
[05:19] <Gasseus> Maybe you were having a good day while on windows
[05:19] <frozenpacket> mcurran: its AGP8X
[05:20] <mcurran> that's irrelevant (ati, nvidia, intel?)  run the following command in terminal and paste the output here:  "lspci | grep video"
[05:20] <Troy^> blade_, i understand that things such as lag exists
[05:20] <Gasseus> Troy^ I'm giving you homework. Look up and read up on "tcp slow start" and "tcp congestion avoidance"
[05:20] <Troy^> blade_, but im talking about big bandwidth capability differences
[05:21] <frozenpacket> it has intel
[05:21] <auk> Can someone give me a recommended settings for how I should format a harddrive, via, the "cfdisk /dev/sda" command? On a 2TB harddrive.
[05:21] <mcurran> actually type this "lspci | grep VGA
[05:21] <Gasseus> Troy^ The best you can do is try rebooting
[05:22] <Troy^> Gasseus, alright its just i've never seen anything like it before
[05:22] <Gasseus> Troy^ Then maybe you should turn bittorrent off and see if that helps you.
[05:23] <Gasseus> Seriously, there is NO way to FIX it but giving your ISP the B&M
[05:23] <Troy^> Gasseus, hmm but i can get so much faster speed same site different OS
[05:23] <Troy^> like 3x
[05:23] <mcurran> frozenpacket:  It seems there's a lot of other users having issues with your chipset and unity.  You should probably follow a ubuntu forum solution identified on the web.  Try searching for "ubuntu 865G solved" w/ google.
[05:23] <blade_> Troy^,  i have sat here for the last hour and read ... Gasseus knows what he is talking about ... i am humbled by what i have learned in the last hour
[05:23] <Gasseus> Troy^ I have one word for you
[05:23] <Gasseus> Troy^ Deal with it
[05:24] <Troy^> lol
[05:24] <Troy^> you're ridiculous
[05:24] <Semitones> gasseus stop giving antagonistic advice :/ -- if the question is why does OS 1 have better bandwith than OS 2, the answer is between the router and the computer probably
[05:24] <airtonix> can someone ban *!*@110.138.101.200 from freenode please
[05:25] <rww> airtonix: ask #freenode
[05:25] <Troy^> Semitones, and that is what im trying to find out if its a compatibility issue with WPA2 or a driver perhaps?
[05:25] <Gasseus> Semitones: The answer is how much other people who live near him are using bittorrent, not the connection to the router
[05:25] <Semitones> Gasseus, a simple test would be run a speedtest, reboot, run it again on OS 2.
[05:25] <Troy^> Gasseus, but im talking about this is all the time not at one given moment
[05:25] <blade_> Troy^,  are you on wireless?
[05:25] <Troy^> blade_, yes
[05:26] <curiousx> whois Troy^
[05:26] <Gasseus> Its called you take the ups with the downs in all your choices. There's nothing that will make linux better or windows worse, unless you put the time in and code the fix.
[05:26] <Semitones> that's him over there :p
[05:26] <curiousx> =P
[05:26] <blade_> Troy^, hold on... i will have to find it.... can not remember the program name... you can install windows drivers in ubuntu.... for wireless....
[05:26] <Troy^> hmm
[05:26] <Gasseus> blade_ Thats not necessary since 8.10
[05:27] <Semitones> blade_, you're thinkging of ndiswrapper, and it is often buggy
[05:27] <frozenpacket> mcurran: what was that command again?
[05:27] <blade_> Gasseus, Semitones yes that's the one.... and with 10.10 that is what i had to use....
[05:27] <blade_> worked for me... worth a try right?
[05:27] <Semitones> sometimes you have no recourse
[05:27] <blade_> Gasseus, or am i wrong?
[05:28] <Gasseus> blade_ If he's got the wireless working on linux, there's nothing that ndiswrapper can do better.
[05:28] <Semitones> you can try it, but windows drivers under ndiswrapper sometimes don't support things like multicast and wpa
[05:28] <blade_> ok
[05:28] <blade_> sorry
[05:28] <mcurran> frozenpacket:  The command was "lspci | grep VGA".  I think your chipset is 865G
[05:28] <Semitones> that's ok :p
[05:28] <mcurran> don't you know how to scroll back?
[05:28] <mcurran> :)
[05:28] <blade_> just brain storming ... Troy^ did not seam to like the input he was getting ...
[05:29] <Troy^> well wpa2 is working fine, but i have had back in the old days where using the wrong driver for a network card in windows slowed down connection speeds..
[05:29] <MIH1406> Hi, Why the flash(es) in websites are flutering
[05:29] <Gasseus> Troy^ There's only 4 linux wireless drivers in the ubuntu kernel. I'm sure it will select the right one.
[05:29] <Semitones> Troy^, you could do the test I mentioned above, and then change your wifi to no security temporarily and run it again
[05:29] <blade_> Troy^, is it a usb wireless?
[05:29] <auk> Can someone give me a recommended settings for how I should format a harddrive, via, the "cfdisk /dev/sda" command? On a 2TB harddrive.
[05:29] <frozenpacket> mcurran: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[05:29] <blade_> Troy^, or on board
[05:30] <Troy^> on board
[05:30] <mangru> exit
[05:30] <mangru> logout
[05:30] <Vintage> lol Romin: don't worry.  He wasnt telling you to exit or logout haha
[05:31] <blade_> Troy^, hmmm not sure then... if it was usb you could try lsusb ... and see what info it would give you on the card
[05:31] <blade_> Troy^,  maybe try lspci and see.... it may list on that one....
[05:32] <Troy^> 03:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[05:32] <HackNewton> Hello
[05:32] <frozenpacket> mcurran: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[05:33] <Gasseus> Troy^ The ath driver is fully compatible with wireless n and wpa2 encryption
[05:33] <Troy^> how do i know which driver it is using
[05:33] <Gasseus> Troy^ You're using ATH driver
[05:34] <Gasseus> its always either ath, broadcom, generic, or something else, which I can't remember the name of
[05:34] <blade_> Troy^,  try lspci in terminal and look for your wireless card...
[05:34] <KM0201> Troy^: are you having probs w/ that device?
[05:34] <Troy^> thats what i just did
[05:34] <Troy^> KM0201, no but im having bandwidth speed issues
[05:35] <Gasseus> Troy^ Let me ask you this: What are you doing that is so bandwidth stringent?
[05:35] <frozenpacket> mcurran: so is this one of those cards thats not compatible?
[05:35] <KM0201> hmm, didn't have tha tproblem, but i had a LOT of random disconnects (lke ever 2-3min)... switching to wicd, fixed my problem (why i don't know, but it did.. i've not disconnected in 3 days)
[05:35] <blade_> what is your max bandwidth Troy^
[05:35] <Gasseus> Troy^ And why can't you do it on your windows OS, because obviously it does "better"
[05:35] <Troy^> 16mbit which is approx about 1.6MB/s
[05:36] <mcurran> frozenpacket:  This looks like your best bet, here http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?ProductID=1044&DwnldID=8203&lang=eng
[05:36] <Troy^> Gasseus, thats not the point are not helpful or insightful
[05:36] <Troy^> you*
[05:36] <mcurran> first time I've seen a linux driver from intel, surprising...
[05:36] <Gasseus> Troy^ Well, your thinking illogically
[05:36] <Troy^> so are you lol
[05:37] <blade_> Troy^,  1.6 mbps  and what is your max on Ubuntu?
[05:37] <Vintage> 1.59
[05:37] <Troy^> umm 1/3 of that
[05:37] <Vintage> nah jk
[05:37] <Gasseus> Troy^ If your doing something that your impatiant with the bandwidth you get with linux, switch to windows, don't come complaining to us in here that "linux is worse, because i exhadderate how low of a speed I get on it."
[05:37] <blade_> Troy^, give me a number so i have something to work with here man
[05:38] <Troy^> Gasseus, obv there is some sort of hardware or software issue here not that this is faster then that
[05:38] <Gasseus> Troy^ How much stuff do you have running right now?
[05:38] <Troy^> very little
[05:38] <Gasseus> how many programs?
[05:38] <Troy^> and this is the only comp actually turned on to the router
[05:38] <Gasseus> How many tabs do you have open in your web browser?
[05:38] <Troy^> this and chrome
[05:38] <Vintage> Gasseus:  Why are you being so defensive. Unless I seriously am missing something, seems he wants to use linux over windows.  That's a good thing :)
[05:38] <Troy^> 2
[05:39] <Gasseus> Try wonderthrottle
[05:39] <blade_> Troy^,  what speed are you getting with Ubuntu... a number please
[05:40] <Gasseus> Vintage He's not accepting the facts of his situation
[05:40] <Troy^> blade_, like 500-700kilobytes/sec
[05:40] <Gasseus> probably a slow speedtest server
[05:40] <Vintage> Try.
[05:40] <Troy^> well i did the same server on windows
[05:40] <Vintage> Troy, try my test file.
[05:40] <Vintage> I pmed it
[05:40] <Troy^> and have done it multiple times
[05:40] <blade_> Troy^, what are your ping times from both tests...
[05:41] <Vintage> use the speed test file I sent you.  It's a gigabit line heavily underused and located in usa
[05:42] <HackNewton> When i plug my Pen Drive, and try to create folder or file in it, it says no permission for writing in this device, can anyone tell whats the problem
[05:42] <HackNewton> ?
[05:43] <Vintage> remount it with write permissions?
[05:43] <ubernerd> Haudy folks!
[05:43] <bazhang> ubernerd, hi
[05:43] <Vintage> does the device have a switch on it to prevent writing?
[05:43] <HackNewton> no luck with that also :(
[05:43] <HackNewton> Vintage, no
[05:43] <HackNewton> i can copy things in it
[05:44] <HackNewton> but cant create anything in it
[05:44] <Vintage> hmm interesting, dont have any information on why that is...
[05:44] <Troy^> Vintage, got 1.1MB/s on it
[05:44] <ubernerd> HackNewton is it a mac osx drive?
[05:44] <Vintage> Have you tried aria2c
[05:45] <Vintage> its a linux app that will let you open multiple connections to a host and download faster usually.
[05:45] <HackNewton> ubernerd, no its ScanDisk
[05:45] <ubernerd> Sandisk?
[05:45] <HackNewton> ubernerd, yes
[05:45]  * TonyWanis I WILL NEVER LIE AGAIN
[05:46] <ubernerd> HackNewton I can tell you why. Its formatted ExFat, which is a format not supported natively in linux
[05:46] <Troy^> Vintage, alright thanks
[05:46] <ubernerd> I don't know a solution to the issue
[05:46] <HackNewton> ubernerd, so what should i do it ? format it in NTFS ?
[05:46] <auk> For a machine with: 2TB harddrive space, and 16Gb of ram, what would be recommended for SWAP size?
[05:46] <ubernerd> HackNewton That'd be advisable I guess :D
[05:47] <ubernerd> auk 16 gb
[05:47] <blade_> ubernerd, i have a 1tb drive that is Fat32 and use it on linux.... or is that not the same?
[05:47] <auk> Okies, thanks ubernerd.
[05:47] <ubernerd> blade_ thats not the same fat32 is 1999, exfat is 2010
[05:47] <goddard> for some reason when i move my windows around the screen it is kind of glitchy
[05:47] <HackNewton> ubernerd, well i have bad experince converting FAT to NTFS drive for Pen Drive
[05:47] <blade_> ubernerd, ahh ok thank you
[05:47] <ubernerd> HackNewton Just back up all your data you should be fine
[05:48] <HackNewton> my old pen drive after format into NTFS refuses to link with windows
[05:48] <ubernerd> HackNewton Format it in Windows, select NTFS
[05:48] <blade_> HackNewton, just convert it to fat with the disk utility
[05:48] <blade_> HackNewton, or just do like ubernerd  said lol
[05:48] <ubernerd> HackNewton you can do so by going into my computer, right clicking the drive, and click format
[05:49] <ubernerd> make sure it says NTFS
[05:49] <HackNewton> blade_, i think that should try
[05:49] <HackNewton> give*
[05:49] <HackNewton> ubernerd, thanks i will try
[05:49] <ubernerd> Should work :D
[05:49] <ubernerd> HackNewton Make sure to back up data on it
[05:50] <blade_> HackNewton, if you cant find it on windows ... let me know i will show you how to find it
[05:50] <Vintage> not on the same drive of course.
[05:50] <HackNewton> ubernerd, backup is in my blood ;)
[05:50] <HackNewton> blade_, thanks will ask you
[05:50] <Vintage> hence why he owns a external drive hehe
[05:50] <goddard> i backup my backup's backup
[05:50] <MIH1406> Hi, Why the flash(es) in websites are flutering
[05:50] <Vintage> my backup server is in raid5
[05:50] <Vintage> lol
[05:51] <HackNewton> lol
[05:51] <jane1> hey guys. i want  a root shell. vps i think. where i can do anything with root acces. install apps. do anything.    do i need vps hosting . thats what i see always. i thing its just for hosting websites with some additional acces..?   so what do i need. and i want a cheap one. 15 dollars / mo ?
[05:51] <HackNewton> MIH1406, which browser you are using ?
[05:51] <ubernerd> my backup server is 20 drives in sets of 3 raid 1
[05:51] <ubernerd> Jane1 wrong channel
[05:51] <Vintage> a cheap vps will do
[05:51] <defunct> hi, does anyone know if I need udev (udevd) on a VPS?
[05:51] <MIH1406> HackNewton, firefox , opera and chromium
[05:51] <goddard> does nvidia have a problem with ubuntu?
[05:51] <ubernerd> defunct: #ubuntu-server
[05:52] <defunct> ubernerd: k, thanks
[05:52] <dr_willis> goddard:  mine dont
[05:52] <ubernerd> goddard only the newer chips
[05:52] <HackNewton> MIH1406, try to reinstall flash plug in
[05:52] <goddard> 460m?
[05:52] <ubernerd> I don't know ottmh
[05:52] <goddard> GTX460M
[05:52] <dr_willis> 360 m works here on my laptop
[05:53] <lucentx> is it possible to add subtitles to a video using pititv?
[05:53] <MIH1406> HackNewton, do you mean that there is not any known issues with flash player?
[05:53] <HackNewton> goddard, i dont think GTX460M will have any problem with UBUNTU
[05:53] <goddard> when i move my windows around it lags
[05:53] <HackNewton> MIH1406, no
[05:53] <goddard> and the screen some times flickers for a second
[05:53] <ubernerd> MIH1406 There's tons, but not what your talking about
[05:53] <HackNewton> MIH1406, its absolutely fine
[05:54] <ubernerd> MIH1406 Its probably the code behind the applet
[05:54] <dr_willis> flash is one issue after another.. and it always se3ms to vary ;)
[05:54] <Vustom> PuTTY is not accepting user@host as a Hostname on Linux/Ubuntu, I get this error message; Unable to open connection to user@host:Name or service not known, can anyone tell me how to fix this?
[05:54] <ubernerd> Vustom Don't use user@host, use host and it will ask for user
[05:54] <dr_willis> Vustom:  try by ip not hostname
[05:54] <goddard> why use putty on linux?
[05:54] <einseenai> guys, is power consumption fixed in post 2.6.38 kernels? or not yet?
[05:55] <ubernerd> goddard easier
[05:55] <goddard> really?
[05:55] <ubernerd> einseenai nope
[05:55] <ubernerd> einseenai there's a patch that's going to be in the next alpha upstream kernel, but that will wait for oneiric
[05:55] <HackNewton> einseenai, no but 3 promises that
[05:56] <Vustom> goddard: What else can I use..
[05:56] <goddard> shell
[05:56] <einseenai> ubernerd, oneiric will use 3.0, right?
[05:56] <goddard> and a shell script
[05:56] <ubernerd> einseenai yes
[05:56] <goddard> with a shortcut
[05:56] <einseenai> ubernerd, or 3.1
[05:56] <ubernerd> don't switch now tho
[05:56] <wslayer> how do I paste a command at tty?
[05:56] <einseenai> ubernerd, ok
[05:56] <Vustom> dr_ willis, ubernerd: I changed it to the IP and I don't get the error but nothing happens..
[05:56] <ubernerd> einseenai if 3.1 is available at release, 3.1
[05:57] <Vustom> The terminal does nothing, just sits there and doesn't ask for a password. :/
[05:57] <ubernerd> Vustom: Use HOST, not USER@HOST, Putty will ask for USER
[05:57] <einseenai> ubernerd, so patch will land in 3.0 or 3.1? it's upstream patch, right? or ubuntu only?
[05:57] <ubernerd> einseenai upstream and 3.0 maybe
[05:57] <Vustom> ubernerd, Thanks!
[05:57] <Vustom> ;D
[05:58] <ubernerd> they haven't started dev on 3.1 yet
[05:58] <HackNewton> einseenai, upstream
[05:58] <einseenai> thanks a lot, everybody.
[05:58] <ubernerd> actually, there's a patch in the proposed kernel
[05:58] <ciU_ciU> hy...
[05:59] <ubernerd> einseenai I hate to suggest it, but enable proposed repositories, there's a fix in them
[05:59] <john__> hello i was wondering if there was a way to get a program to read the file you dubble click on if it is set to open the program
[05:59] <bkerensa> ubernerd: Why would you hate to suggest enabling proposed? Proposed isnt so bad :)
[05:59] <einseenai> ubernerd, HackNewton, thx a lot.
[05:59] <ubernerd> bkerensa because it's prevented me from being able to get support in the past
[06:00] <john__> i want to make a script or somthing that would like mabe open a rom in somthing like mupen64plus just by dubble clicking on the roms
[06:01] <dr_willis> john__:  nautilus has a scripts menu feature you can use for special cases like that
[06:01] <john__> so when i dubble click the rom the script/program activated states the desired programe then the file to be used
[06:01] <bkerensa> ubernerd: :) I see... Well I have been using it on Natty and Maverick and never had a hiccup yet
[06:02] <wslayer> i ctrl+v'd a long command and i want to start it on tty. How do I paste this long command on tty?
[06:02] <ubernerd> bkerensa someone refused to help me because I had an upstream kernel
[06:02] <dr_willis> !proposed
[06:02] <Vustom> When pasting a password into PuTTY once you've opened a connection it doesn't work, it says Access Denied..
[06:02] <Vustom> But the password is correct, and it works fine on Windows.
[06:02] <ubernerd> Vustom it doesn't accept copy paste you need to type it by hand
[06:02] <dr_willis> wslayer:  from x to the console? paste into a text file.
[06:02] <Vustom> .......................
[06:02] <Vustom> It's a huge password. >.<
[06:02] <ubernerd> :D
[06:03] <ubernerd> I use huge passwords too
[06:03] <ubernerd> I just set up key based auth on my ssh
[06:03] <somsip> dr_willis: middle click doesn't work? I nalways use .ppk myself, but surely...
[06:03] <dr_willis> i try to use keys. ;)
[06:03] <ubernerd> dr_willis try?
[06:03] <dr_willis> somsip:  on console = not in x..
[06:03] <ubernerd> The only reason I use keys is that I can use a weak password with my key and still be ub3r secure
[06:04] <somsip> dr_willis: ok - fairynuff
[06:04] <dr_willis> ubernerd:  not figured it out on my adroid phone yet
[06:04] <ubernerd> dr_willis what app?
[06:04] <dr_willis> 'connectbot' for now.
[06:05] <ubernerd> give me a sec and I can help with KBA
[06:05] <wslayer> dr_willis: hm i'm complete noob. so I just paste in text file but how do I execute it?
[06:05] <djjonex> ./filename
[06:05] <dr_willis> i got a guide on how to do it. just not had time
[06:05] <muc> I have a problem after updating ubuntu grub got another entery and now i cant set defult system in startup maneger
[06:05] <muc> any sugestions
[06:05] <ubernerd> dr_willis oh ok
[06:05] <dr_willis> wslayer:   sh  ./thefile   is one way
[06:05] <ubernerd> DO IT NAO!!! :D
[06:06] <john__> i guess it maybe to complex then?
[06:06] <enav> yoyoyo
[06:06] <dr_willis> john__:  nautilus scripting is not to complex
[06:07] <dr_willis> theres tones of examples of them
[06:07] <ubernerd> dr_willis I love how connectbot is rated as "high maturity"
[06:07] <blade_> what is EnvyNG
[06:07] <wslayer> ok how do I completely stop GDM, X? And how do i bring them up?
[06:08] <dr_willis> blade_:  an obsolete tweaking tool/script
[06:08] <ndxtg> does anyone know how to downmix 5.1 AC3 to 2.0 Stereo in VLC? I get really low volume playing MKV file :(
[06:08] <enav> blade_: is a program to install the nvidia drivers
[06:08] <dr_willis> wslayer:  sudo service gdm stop
[06:08] <jzjad> What's the cmd create dir?
[06:08] <dr_willis> wslayer:  sudo service gdm start
[06:08] <blade_> dr_willis, enav  thank  you
[06:08] <GirlyGirl> CTRL + ALT + Backspace used to restart X in the past, it has stopped working with newer releases any ideas?
[06:09] <dr_willis> GirlyGirl:  its been disabled for a long time. ;)
[06:09] <dr_willis> !dontzap
[06:09] <enav> Ctrl + alt +F12
[06:09] <wslayer> dr_willis: thanks, and to stop X?
[06:09] <GirlyGirl> enav: Thank You!
[06:09] <jzjad> O:)
[06:09] <SwedeMike> wslayer: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start (and stop)
[06:09] <dr_willis> wslayer:  stoping gdm will stop x started by gdm
[06:10] <ubernerd> dr_willis besides the keygen process, I'm already done with making a keypair on connectbot
[06:10] <ubernerd> you just make excuses
[06:10] <wslayer> thank you
[06:11] <Vintage> How do you convince yourself to go to sleep when you dont want to do the things you have put off for a week already lol.
[06:13] <jason_> hi
[06:13] <jason_> I've got a question
[06:13] <ubernerd> Vintage Shoot a gun in the air (make sure there's no airplanes)
[06:14] <jason_> I want to view a file in binary and not hex ... anyone know of a flag for hexdump or another program I can use?
[06:14] <stephenmartyr> hi i dropped my computer/and then on the windows side of partition an error about cooling fan noy runni9g camne on,then on ubuntu studio studio side o partition under disk utility it said some bad sectors on disk,please help
[06:14] <MrNaz> when installing python and wxpython, which packages are needed?
[06:14] <ubernerd> wait... are RSA keys better or DSA keys?
synaptic or apt-get will tell u
[06:15] <nsadmin> I want to install a package on my ubuntu that contains the firmware that debian package firmware-linux-nonfree has, including for my radeon card in my newish laptop
[06:15] <nsadmin> what package is that?
[06:16] <airtonix> is there a plugin for banshee that lets me search for cover-art online?
[06:17] <ubernerd> airtonix ask in #gnome
[06:18] <MrNaz> stephenmartyr there are a pile of them, and it is not obvious which ones will be needed... e.g., is it wxgtk2.8 or wx2.8 ?
[06:18] <ubernerd> now to upload my new public key to my ssh server :D
[06:19] <nsadmin> ubernerd, do you have the password to the remote
[06:19] <ubernerd> nsadmin password to what remote?
[06:19] <stephenmartyr> go to documkentation pages?
[06:19] <nsadmin> "ssh server"
[06:19] <ubernerd> yeah I have the password to it, why wouldn't I?
[06:20] <ubernerd> I just discovered something...
[06:20] <ubernerd> my public key, as encoded in base64, has vulgarity in it
[06:20] <nsadmin> ok so it's convenient if you have two shells
[06:21] <ubernerd> nsadmin I don't understand what you're asking...
[06:21] <godlywhizken> hey what's a good cvs client?
[06:21] <nsadmin> I didn't ask anything yet
[06:21] <ubernerd> I just uploaded my phones public key to my server
[06:21] <grigori> im using ubuntu 11.04 how to add 'thinks' to desktop panel?
[06:21] <godlywhizken> grigori, drag and drop?
[06:22] <ubernerd> quote of the day
[06:22] <DETERMINOLOGY> How well does wubi work with ubuntu linux?
[06:22] <cryptodira_> my wireless is greyed out....the daemon log reports:  NetworkManager[1273]: <info> WiFi disabled by radio killswitch; disabled by state file, so, the question now becomes.... where is this state file located and is it correctable?   amd64/
[06:22] <godlywhizken> is 11.04 any good? i'
[06:22] <godlywhizken> i'm still on 10.04 and in love with it
[06:22] <GirlyGirl> DETERMINOLOGY: It works but install to partition is more recommended
[06:22] <ubernerd> DETERMINOLOGY: It works by having a disk image in the windows partition and booting off of it when you want ubuntu, and booting off of the ntfs image when you want windows
[06:22] <nsadmin> godlywhizken, for the good ones, drive 99 miles straight south, turn left, then drive 99 more miles, pull into the gas station, find the attendant and say "where the heck am I"
[06:23] <nsadmin> seriously... you have to decide which one is good by trying them out
[06:23] <godlywhizken> hmmm, nsadmin
 not to the side panel. i want to add the "force quit" application to the panel at the top of the desktop
[06:23] <ubernerd> godlywhizken IMO, 11.04 is only good if you install gnome3
[06:23] <DETERMINOLOGY> I wanna dual boot but whats the best way of going about it and whats the best way to del the ubuntu partition incase i dont want to dual boot any more
[06:23] <godlywhizken> ubernerd, that's exactly what i wanted to use gnome3
[06:24] <godlywhizken> I was actually going to try and install gnome3 on 10.04... but i've just been hella busy
[06:24] <ubernerd> DETERMINOLOGY There's plenty of guides on google
[06:24] <ubernerd> godlywhizken the only thing with installing gnome 3 is you need to remove gnome-games-extras first
[06:24] <godlywhizken> nsadmin, where you answering my question about good ubuntu version or cvs clients?
[06:24] <godlywhizken> oic
[06:25] <godlywhizken> i could just sudo apt-get remove gnome-games-extras; sudo apt-get install gnome3??
[06:25] <ubernerd> erm...
[06:25] <ubernerd> its gnome-shell
[06:25] <ubernerd> and you need the gnome3 ppa
[06:25] <djjonex> what are differences between gnome and unity
[06:25] <ubernerd> gnome is better
[06:25] <godlywhizken> djjonex... seriously
[06:25] <godlywhizken> unity is ffor the new lamers
[06:25] <ubernerd> well... prettier
[06:25] <djjonex> lol yea seriously
[06:25] <ubernerd> Gnome is a more... well developed software then unity
[06:25] <stephenmartyr> can anyone help me with "bad sectors" on my hard drive??
[06:26] <ubernerd> stephenmartyr use a magnet
[06:26] <djjonex> u got a problem with my question godlywhizken ?
[06:26] <godlywhizken> hmm for some reason i t hought unity was more a end user type of interface
[06:26] <godlywhizken> as in no use in really command line interface
[06:26] <godlywhizken> although same with gnome... but even more with unity
[06:26] <godlywhizken> dude anyone know any cvs clients?
[06:26] <ubernerd> gnome is a more well developed software set
[06:27] <ubernerd> godlywhizken I don't suppose apt-get install cvs got you anywhere did it
[06:27] <nsadmin> godlywhizken, so have you found something good yet?
[06:27] <godlywhizken> yeah i just like gnome better... it's funny i want to move to diff distro or even kubuntu
[06:27] <auk> Are there alternative commands I can use to download files? I'm messing with some weird set up that has no apt-get or wget.
[06:27] <stephenmartyr> ubernerd a magnet?
[06:27] <godlywhizken> but i think i just like gnome more...
[06:27] <ubernerd> stephenmartyr Basically, what you need to do is back up your data and reformat
[06:27] <dr_willis> auk curl  perhaps
[06:27] <stephenmartyr> noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[06:27] <auk> command not found.
[06:27] <djjonex> i like the bar on the left...if gnome has it then ill switch to gnome
[06:28] <godlywhizken> nsadmin, i was wondering what you were referring to... the cvs or ubuntu versions?
[06:28] <ubernerd> stephenmartyr be happy you can at least save the drive :D
[06:28] <stephenmartyr> it looks like the problem is on one side of the p[artition not the other
[06:28] <dr_willis> auk  what distro are you on thats mising these ?
[06:28] <stephenmartyr> can i just reformat that?
[06:28] <ubernerd> nope
[06:28] <ubernerd> full reformat
[06:28] <nsadmin> version of what?
[06:28] <blade_> djjonex, the bar on the left IS unity lol
[06:28] <djjonex> thats why im keeping unity
[06:28] <djjonex> lol
[06:29] <ubernerd> dr_willis there was one time that i had an ssh server that only had python on it
[06:29] <stephenmartyr> how can i save it?i have no dvd's to make boot cd but i do have recovery boots?
[06:29] <nsadmin> I want to install a package on my ubuntu that contains the firmware that debian package firmware-linux-nonfree has, including for my radeon card in my newish laptop
[06:29] <stephenmartyr> is that good?
[06:29] <nsadmin> which package is that?
[06:29] <ubernerd> stephenmartyr how old of a ubuntu disk do you have?
[06:29] <stephenmartyr> how do i do a full format
[06:29] <ubernerd> stephenmartyr with a disk
[06:29] <stephenmartyr> i use 10.o4ubuntustudio/windowsxp
[06:30] <stephenmartyr> a dvd or a cd
[06:30] <djjonex> I have Ubuntu 5.04
[06:30] <ubernerd> stephenmartyr do you have a disk for the ubuntu?
[06:30] <djjonex> lol
[06:30] <ubernerd> djjonex no trolling is necessary
[06:30] <stephenmartyr> no
[06:30] <jzjad> Omg djjonex  lol
[06:30] <nsadmin> just a sec, you need to slow down
[06:30] <djjonex> LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:30] <stephenmartyr> i have 11.04
[06:30] <stephenmartyr> on disk
[06:30] <godlywhizken> why does gnu have info pages and hate man pages?
[06:30] <ubernerd> stephenmartyr use that disk
[06:30] <ubernerd> backup your data first tho
[06:30] <auk> dr_willis: I just realized it's Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 \n \l
[06:30] <ubernerd> godlywhizken because gnu is gnu
[06:31] <stephenmartyr> 'ok should i do a partition still?and what are the recovery modes for?
[06:31] <godlywhizken> ubernerd, they just have to be different?
[06:31] <ubernerd> godlywhizken they just have to develop everything in house
[06:31] <stephenmartyr> hmm i can back it up on a cd right?
[06:31] <godlywhizken> i swear linux is just a bunch of subgroups with different opinions creating different things accomplishing the same things
[06:31] <ubernerd> stephenmartyr if your windows partition works, you can back it up onto that
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> nsadmin: the hardware driver app will install the driver for the video chip. Possibly also the wifi depending on the chip it uses
[06:31] <nsadmin> you're talking about formatting and backing up almost in the same breath
[06:31] <ubernerd> godlywhizken thats EXACTLY what it is
[06:32] <godlywhizken> i still love gnu though
[06:32] <ubernerd> but linux is just the kernel, linux OS is what your thinking of
[06:32] <godlywhizken> well linux/gnu
[06:32] <stephenmartyr> thats cuz i dont know the technical terms that well so im a tad confused
[06:32] <dr_willis> godlywhizken:  gnu is for more then linux also.. linux is just another subgroup...
[06:32] <godlywhizken> oh my... which sub group should i join or align myself with
[06:32] <godlywhizken> and fight to the death for!
[06:32] <ubernerd> godlywhizken fight to the death for minecraft
[06:33] <dr_willis> godlywhizken:  for team 'vi'
[06:33] <godlywhizken> haha
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> godlywhizken: different needs use different apps
[06:33] <godlywhizken> dr_willis, i actually really like vi
[06:33] <auk> godlywhizken: So true. -.-              Maybe use freebsd?
[06:33] <ubernerd> I prefer nano
[06:33] <godlywhizken> auk, i like freebsd too
[06:33] <dr_willis> cpm!
[06:33] <auk> Nano is better.
[06:33] <ubernerd> I'd like to use freebsd, but I've never figured out how to install it
[06:33] <cryptodira_> my wireless is greyed out....the daemon log reports:  NetworkManager[1273]: <info> WiFi disabled by radio killswitch; disabled by state file, so, the question now becomes.... where is this state file located and is it correctable?  10.10  amd64/
[06:33] <godlywhizken> right now... my 3 distros that i'm choosing from are ubuntu(which is tarted) slackware and freebsd
[06:33] <ubernerd> I wish there was a livecd installer
[06:33] <nsadmin> ActionParsnip, hmm, that would be good, solve two at once. I suppose I'll reboot into it and see what happens... btw, if I'm going to look at unity, what flavor of xdm do I use and what package is it in
[06:34] <ubernerd> godlywhizken freebsd isn't a distro its an os
[06:34] <nsadmin> and thanks for the reply
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> godlywhizken: its the same in every OS
[06:34] <godlywhizken> ubernerd, isn't a distro of unix?
[06:34] <ubernerd> godlywhizken no its a derivitive
[06:34] <godlywhizken> ubernerd, yes you are the 'uber' nerd :)
[06:34] <nsadmin> bsd does stand for berkeley standard DISTribution...
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> nsadmin: how do you mean "flavour of xdm"? xdm is xdm
[06:35] <ubernerd> nsadmin umm... no its berkeley schools distribution
[06:35] <crackerjackz> i thought bsd standed for berkley software distribution
[06:35] <crackerjackz> stood*
[06:35] <godlywhizken> lol... wow
[06:35] <godlywhizken> see you guys are all from different sub groups
[06:35] <ubernerd> lol
[06:35] <ubernerd> I'm just a video gamer
[06:35] <nsadmin> but there's other things that do xdmcp
[06:36] <nsadmin> gdm, kdm, wdm, foodm
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> godlywhizken: everyone is. Its the human condition
[06:36] <ubernerd> gdm is best :D
[06:36] <auk> I used to be a video gamer. Then yo uget annoyed that idiots put a virus on your computer, so you switch to linux to scare them away ._.
ok but under each kernel at the grub there is "ubuntu generic(recovery mode)under every generuc kernel
[06:36] <godlywhizken> :) yes it is
[06:36] <auk> Gdm, what the heck is that? O_O
[06:36] <wslayer> what is xdmcp?
ill leave you alone soon,just a few more questions
[06:36] <ubernerd> stephenmartyr recovery mode won't help you in this case
[06:37] <godlywhizken> isn't it the loader/login screen for gnome?
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> nsadmin: sure but those aren't flavours of xdm, gdm is its own ap
[06:37] <stephenmartyr> ok
[06:37] <stephenmartyr> so how do i erase everything?
[06:37] <ubernerd> i dunno
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> Lightdm rocks all my systems :-)
[06:37] <nsadmin> that's fine, we can use any semantics you want. which do you recommend for unity?
[06:37] <godlywhizken> gdm = gnome display manager -- a login screen
[06:38] <ubernerd> oh... which reminds me... i haven't made a commit to svn in like 2 or 3 weeks
[06:38] <wslayer> is xfce supported by Ubuntu?
[06:38] <ubernerd> wslayer Yes, thats why they call it xubuntu
you dont know how i reboot with a new saystem,then how do you know i need to?
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> nsadmin: its not semantics at all. Its a different application altogether. I'd use gdm as it's default but one doesn't have any advantages over the other
[06:39] <updated> sup
[06:39] <updated> whats the best way for me to view my network and check and make sure no one is hacking my wifi
[06:39] <ubernerd> stephenmartyr bad sectors are something that can only be coped with via a repartitioning
[06:39] <updated> ????
[06:39] <ubernerd> I said I dunno because I need sleep
[06:39] <godlywhizken> i'm not sure if it's supported directly by ubuntu but i think some guys took it and put xfce on it and called it xubuntu
[06:39] <nsadmin> semantics are best used to understand communication
[06:39] <updated> on ubuntu
[06:40] <ubernerd> updated: wireshark
[06:40] <nsadmin> and to take responsibility for communication so that the other person understands
[06:40] <wslayer> gnome is obviously supported by Ubuntu but I updated my kernel from update manager and it still uses the old kernel.
[06:40] <nmvictor> How dow I know the com port to which my USB modem maps to, any command to reveal that?/
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> updated: there is no single best method to achieve anything
[06:40] <updated> ubernerd:  im new to wireshark what exactly would i do?
[06:40] <nsadmin> but, ok. gdm it is
[06:40] <stephenmartyr> ok
[06:40] <ubernerd> you have to get it to listen in monitor mode, see if any ip addresses you can't explain are listed
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> nsadmin: xdm is an app, gdm is a different app. If you use terms incorrectly you will cause confusion
[06:41] <godlywhizken> i was planning on moving to backtrack and learning every program in that distro
[06:42] <godlywhizken> i just dled wireshark :D
[06:42] <nmvictor> Any way I could be able to send AT commands to my USB modem?
[06:42] <ubernerd> godlywhizken backtrack is really intended for hackers...
[06:42] <godlywhizken> i'm not a hacker!
[06:42] <ubernerd> nmvictor dial... up... modem?
[06:42] <nsadmin> technically they are all X clients that also talk xdmcp
[06:42] <ubernerd> godlywhizken don't worry, that's what I'll tell you about myself, but I'd be lieing if I did say I wasn't
[06:43] <nsadmin> godlywhizken, it's ok, you can be one if you practice a lot
[06:43] <wslayer> why hasn't my kernel updated? I installed it from update manager but my system still uses the 2.6.38.
[06:43] <godlywhizken> really?
[06:43] <ubernerd> godlywhizken if you want I can give you my contact info and help you become one
[06:43] <godlywhizken> :D
[06:43] <godrick> ubernerd help me become a hacker
[06:43] <godlywhizken> alright
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> godlywhizken: if you get good, you can be hired as a security tester
[06:43] <rww> !ot
[06:43] <ubernerd> godrick ok pm me
[06:44] <rww> !latest | wslayer
[06:44] <godlywhizken> ActionParsnip, that would be nice, very
[06:44] <rumpe1> wslayer, i guess you updated your kernel from 2.6.28-8 to 2.6.28-10...
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> Wslayer: what is the output of: lsb_release -d
[06:45] <nsadmin> godrick, you would need to gain experience in some programming language, especially in debugging and determining and solving problems
[06:45] <godrick> nsadmin i have some experience in python
[06:45] <ubernerd> eew... python
[06:45] <nmvictor> ubernerd: yea, a dial up modem
[06:45] <wslayer> rumpe1: it's 2.6.38-10  ActionParsnip Description:	Ubuntu 11.04
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> ubernerd: a LOT of your OS uses python.
[06:46] <godrick> ubernerd:  what language do u like....C?
[06:46] <rumpe1> wslayer, looks fine
[06:46] <ubernerd> godrick perl
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image
[06:46] <asdjaputra> !ot
[06:46] <godrick> ubernerd: whats wrong with pyhton?
[06:46] <ubernerd> godrick enforced formatting
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> Wslayer: you have the latest official kernel
[06:47] <nsadmin> cool, so then you need to cultivate curiousity as to how things work, and locate a python debugger to help you satisfy it
[06:47] <stephenmartyr> where c`an i get more detailed help on bad sectors on drive?
[06:48] <wslayer> ActionParsnip: hmm... I swear I saw something related to 2.6.39 on update-manager i thought it would update my kernel.
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> ubernerd: you use apps and other things coded in python just by using your OS (i assume desktop OS)
[06:48] <muc> anyone know how to solve dual boot problem after update. I have dual boot and now that there is old version in betven i cant defult load other OS. Startup maneger is not working as it should it dosent save or aplay change in defult boot order
[06:48] <godrick> nsadmin:  what language do u prefer?
[06:48] <ubernerd> ActionParsnip Yes, but I refuse to program in it
[06:49] <ubernerd> and I refuse to help others program in it
[06:49] <nsadmin> c, lisp, scheme, c++, tcl, perl, some asm, forth
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> Wslayer: the .29 kernel branch started in oneiric and it now uses kernel 3.0
[06:49] <nsadmin> I don't know python
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> ubernerd: sure but eww for something you use every day is a bit rich, don't yo think?
[06:50] <ubernerd> ActionParsnip Do you say eew for the people at the slaughterhouse that cut up your beef and remove the pooptube?
[06:50] <asdjaputra> !OT
[06:50] <asdjaputra> !ot
[06:51] <asdjaputra> !ot
[06:51] <asdjaputra> !ot
[06:51] <FloodBot1> asdjaputra: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> ubernerd: no i think its interesting
[06:51] <ubernerd> Whatever.
[06:51] <Gabu> good evening
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> Morning Gabu
[06:53] <ubernerd> Good evenmorn
[06:53] <planeteve> Good afternoon!
[06:53] <ubernerd> good saterdaynightlive
[06:53] <planeteve> :)
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> Good morning Vietnam!
[06:54] <asdjaputra> Good noon (?) Indonesia
[06:54] <nmvictor> So a whole ubuntu has no program to send AT commands to a modem
[06:54] <nsadmin> ActionParsnip, so how would I run this thing you mention that installs hardware drivers?
[06:54] <ubernerd> good 2 in the morning (minnesota)
[06:54] <nmvictor> what a shame?
[06:54] <planeteve> I see. It is morning in Vietnam
[06:54] <ubernerd> nmvictor what does at do?
[06:54] <goddard> i have a .so file where does it go?
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> Nsadmin: gksudo jockey-gtk
[06:55] <nsadmin> any way to do the equiv at the command line?
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> goddard: does its arch match your kernel's?
[06:55] <dr_willis> nmvictor:  you can do it with echo 'atdt'  To the right /dev/tty device
[06:55] <nmvictor> ubernerd: man at does not say  anything about sending commands to a modem
[06:56] <nsadmin> maybe you could use minicom, very useful, very convenient
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> nsadmin: not sure. I know how to do what it does for nvidia chips
[06:57] <goddard> ActionParsnip: not sure
[06:57] <nmvictor> dr_willis: so whats the program, atdt?
[06:57] <goddard> ActionParsnip:  it is the flash 64 bit beta i downloaded off their site
[06:57] <nsadmin> ok, thanks for the help/tips... I'll reboot into ubuntu in awhile
[06:58] <goddard> ActionParsnip:  i was going to attempt to manually install
[06:58] <dr_willis> nmvictor:  atdt is a old modem command as a example of an 'at' command
[06:58] <dr_willis> nmvictor:  its just a modem command string
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> goddard: run:  file /path/to/thing   obviously change the file to the actual file. Then run uname -m    i686 = 32bit   x86_64 = 64bit
[06:59] <nmvictor> any libraries I could use with Java's native interface to interact with my modem, I'd do with that
[06:59] <dr_willis> echo 'atdt 12345678' > /dev/modem
[07:00] <goddard> ActionParsnip:  how did you know that seems obscure
[07:00] <args[0]> what is a cool SSH welcome banner? I'm thinking of changing mine to something cool, but no idea to what ...
[07:00] <dr_willis> would dial my old old old modem
[07:01] <goddard> ActionParsnip:  thanks btw
[07:01] <nmvictor> The javax.comm api can communicate with serial and parallel ports on my computer. Is their a way i can get the serial port to which my USB port map onto?
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> goddard: if they are the same bitness, copy it to /usr/lib  if your OS is 64bit and the .so is 32 put it in /usr/lib32  if the .so is 64bit and you OS is 32bit it is of no use to you
[07:02] <sakti> q
[07:02] <sakti> quit
[07:02] <sakti> exit
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> goddard: know what?
[07:04] <goddard> ActionParsnip:  oh i see what you are saying
[07:04] <goddard> ActionParsnip: I've never attempted to manually install flash
[07:04] <Lexx> hi all
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> goddard: ahhhhh you should have said
[07:05] <goddard> ActionParsnip:  hah sorry thought i did
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> goddard: which browser do you use?
[07:06] <cultavix> good morning everyone
[07:06] <goddard> ActionParsnip:  Mozilla installed with 11.04
[07:07] <Lexx> I have some boxen that i want to configure to use static ips, that are using ubuntu natty standard, through the console. Now I have found this guide but in the comments they say that it doesnt work for the standard edition. Can anyone confirm or deny?
[07:07] <Lexx> http://www.jonathanmoeller.com/screed/?p=2961
[07:08] <Flannel> Lexx: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html#static-ip-addressing
[07:08] <Lexx> they are headless atm, and if it doesnt connect at startup it will be a few hours of work to get to them. Any suggestions?
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> goddard: firefox plugins can be stored in ~/.mozilla/plugins   for per user plugins
[07:09] <Lexx> apparently connections manager that is on the standard edition prevents that from working as it should
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> goddard: there is a folder to give it to all users but i don't know it. I haven't used firefox in years
[07:10] <goddard> ActionParsnip: really? what do you use
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> goddard: arora and in the last couple of years chromium daily build
[07:11] <goddard> ActionParsnip:  the nightly build of FF 64bit was pretty fast I haven't tried Arora
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> goddard: there are lots of browsers around people just have firefox blinkers on or think there are only 4 browsers. Try a few. You may find one you like
[07:13] <JoseP> there's Epiphany
[07:13] <JoseP> it's really simple
[07:14] <JoseP> ActionParsnip, is there an app that limits ram on a program?
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> Josep: not sure. What if it needs more ram than you allow it?
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> Josep: you can use nice to give it less cpu time
[07:16] <TimeDude> hi
[07:16] <TimeDude> does anyone mind if i put a spam bot here
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> TimeDude: very
[07:17] <TimeDude> ok
[07:17] <JoseP> ActionParsnip: I need to limit the RAM
[07:17] <TimeDude> only one person
[07:17] <TimeDude> ok
[07:17] <JoseP> if it needs more RAM than I allow it, then I donno \__(O.o)__/
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> TimeDude: I'm also very sure the ops would boot it too
[07:18] <GirlyGirl> TimeDude: as in catch spam or produce spam
[07:18] <TimeDude> a chatterbox
[07:18] <TimeDude> just don't say SPAM
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> TimeDude: if you join a non existing channel you will be the op and you can do as you please
[07:18] <TimeDude> thats the keyword for spam
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> Spam
[07:19] <JoseP> lol
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> SPAM
[07:19] <TimeDude> no its SPAM
[07:19] <JoseP> has anyone here ever been ddos'd?
[07:19] <JoseP> SPAM
[07:19] <TimeDude> and its not even here
[07:19] <JoseP> ok
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> Good, we  can all move on
[07:20] <TimeDude> its coming
[07:20] <JoseP> SPAM
[07:20] <BOT19981> SPAM
[07:20] <BOT19981> SPAM
[07:20] <BOT19981> SPAM
[07:20] <BOT19981> SPAM
[07:20] <BOT19981> SPAM
[07:20] <FloodBot1> BOT19981: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:20] <JoseP> o damn
[07:20] <TimeDude> idiot
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> !ops dumb bot
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> !ops
[07:21] <goddard> ?
[07:21] <TimeDude> he's coming again
[07:21] <JoseP> is that all that bot does?
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> goddard: watch :)
[07:21] <BOT19981> you used the letter 'a' in that message ActionParsnip
[07:21] <TimeDude> but this time don't say "SPAM"
[07:21] <JoseP> why does it have the S*P*A*M thing?
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> Thanks rww :)
[07:22] <TimeDude> oh
[07:22] <TimeDude> i put it there
[07:22] <rww> SPAM
[07:22] <JoseP> what for?
[07:22] <rww> aww
[07:22] <JoseP> lol rww
[07:22] <FloodBot1> TimeDude: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> Josep: rww has boots on
[07:23] <rww> stompy boots
[07:23] <JoseP> o
[07:23] <JoseP> lol
[07:23] <JoseP> o btw, rww do you have any idea on how to fix this? (let me get the pic)
[07:23] <rww> no
[07:24] <GirlyGirl> TimeDude: Please this is a support channel
[07:24] <JoseP> http://postimage.org/image/24f79fax0/
[07:24] <JayPro> 1st time setting up raid.. i have two 1TB harddrives in a raid 1 set up. if i install ubuntu on one of the harddrives, is the data automatically copied to the other harddrive? or should both drives show up as one drive in the ubuntu installation?
[07:25] <ldr> JayPro, normaly both devices show up as one device called md something afaik
[07:26] <JayPro> ahh okay.. soo.. i must have set up the raid 1 incorrectly then..
[07:26] <fmauro> JayPro: if you have a software raid setup, that is. if it's handled by your mainboard, then it should show as a regular drive
[07:26] <ldr> JayPro, but the other devices will still be their sda and adb
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> Josep: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[07:26] <JayPro> fmauro ... your saying it should show up as ONE drive, right
[07:26] <JayPro> ?
[07:27] <fmauro> yes
[07:27] <TaZeR> hi i like ubuntu
[07:27] <TaZeR> somtiems iwish i could make phyiscal lo3 5o i5
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> TaZeR: join the club :)
[07:28] <JayPro> ahh okay.. thanks ldr and fmauro!... sounds like i need to go thru the raid 1 set up again.
[07:28] <TaZeR> im drunk now i wanna o to tsleep adnd dream of ubutun
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> TaZeR: do you have a support question?
[07:29] <TaZeR> yes my breasts needs support
[07:29] <JoseP> no I didn't ActionParsnip
[07:29] <JoseP> how can I do that?
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> Josep: then the data you are using may be corrupted
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> !md5
[07:32] <JoseP> ActionParsnip, but two consecutive ISO's?
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> Josep: statistically its possible to download an infinite number of files and never get a good one
[07:33] <JoseP> hmm ok
[07:33] <JoseP> I'll do that tomorrow though
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> Josep: I've had the same message with a good image but its good to test
[07:35] <JoseP> ok
[07:35] <JoseP> yea, I'm just trying to get 10.04 on my second box here
[07:35] <JoseP> name it Ubuntu-server2
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> Josep: i tend to get it with the cd iso so i either use minimal or dvd
[07:36] <l33o> hi
[07:36] <JoseP> I think I got the DVD which is not really a good thing
[07:36] <nmvictor> qiit
[07:36] <stealz> anyone good with xorg conf can help me set up some metamodes on multimonitor (NVidia Card) ?
[07:36] <l33o> cant find anything about the kernel in 10.04.3 LTS -can anyone tell me please?
[07:36] <stealz> my problem is that my card shows up as two devices, but I only have one card
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image lucid
[07:37] <l33o> thank you ubottu
[07:39] <ldr> it their a list of commands this bright ubottu bot understands?
[07:39] <dr_willis> !bot
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> !ubottu | ldr
[07:39] <ldr> thx
[07:40] <dr_willis> yummy robot brainzs
[07:40] <stealz> Does anyone know how to get compiz to work with xinearama in 10.04? I've read abotu fake xinearama but couldnt find anything about it
[07:41] <dr_willis> stealz:  what video chipset?
[07:41] <stealz> Nvidia
[07:41] <stealz> GTX 580
[07:41] <dr_willis> nvidia uses twinview, compiz works with that for me
[07:41] <dr_willis> twinview=xinerama+moar
[07:41] <stealz> yes but I have some issues with twinview
[07:42] <dr_willis> unity has issues with multi monitor support also.
[07:42] <stealz> dr_willis namely fullscreen apps tend to spread across both screens, but they start on the 2nd screen
[07:42] <stealz> so I get half of a window on the right monitor
[07:42] <stealz> and the 2nd half disappears
[07:43] <dr_willis> so it may be more of a unity issue then twinviews fault.
[07:43] <stealz> I read that I could set up metamodes in xorg.conf but I dont know which device to pick
[07:43] <stealz> I run 10.04
[07:43] <stealz> so no unity
[07:43] <dr_willis> never had issues on normal gnome here with twinview
[07:44] <stealz> I have some games running across 2 screens, which I could fix for some, but some Flash videos still show that behaviour
[07:44] <dr_willis> compiz does have some plugins that can tweak window placement.
[07:44] <stealz> I tried that, with no effect
[07:45] <stealz> I'll play with it some more
[07:45] <dr_willis> only apps ive had tthat used both when fullscreening were apps that were programmed badly. ;)
[07:45] <stealz> well, its some flash vids, too
[07:45] <dr_willis> they all did that when i was usign xinerama only. with twinview most all worked[ some java apps didet do it right
[07:46] <stealz> while others work fine
[07:46] <stealz> for me with xinearama all worked fine, except compiz =)
[07:46] <luaa> hey can someone help me :(
[07:46] <blizzkid> Hi all, I have an udev rule: ACTION=="add", SYSFS{model}=="RD1000", NAME="RD1000%n" Now, when I insert the first RD1000 (internal), it becomes /dev/RD10001, I then insert the second RD1000 (usb), and it becomes... /dev/RD10001, while I was presuming the %n would make it RD10002. What am I grossly overlooking?
[07:46] <luaa> I am trying to configure hiawatha on my pc :(
[07:47] <stealz> I was gonna try setting the metamodes in xorg.conf but I dont know which device to pick as my card shows up as device 0 and 1, any ideas?
[07:47] <dr_willis> blizzkid:  %n is null for the first time. thus blank. perhaps
[07:48] <dr_willis> blizzkid:  then is 1 in 2nd case
[07:48] <blizzkid> dr_willis: nopes, only one RD1000 in /dev with 2 drives inserted, being RD10001
[07:48] <blizzkid> %n is 1 at first btw.
[07:48] <blizzkid> (cfr /dev/sde1)
[07:49] <fmauro> luaa: you are trying to configure a legendary Native American leader and founder of the Iroquois confederacy?
[07:50] <idefix> hi, changing my password doens't work, why is that? I get a please wait icon when I click on OK... :(
[07:50] <idefix> forever
[07:50] <stealz> can I pm you dr_willis
[07:50] <luaa> whats the difference?
[07:50] <fmauro> idefix: open a terminal and type passwd
[07:50] <bkerensa> idefix: have you tried passwd
[07:51] <melissawa> hi,
[07:51] <bkerensa> melissawade: hi
[07:52] <fmauro> luaa: what exactly is not working , please elaborate
[07:52] <bullgard4_> Why does Natty need a »NSPlugin Viewer«? I obtain a warning similar to http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=53036.
[07:53] <melissawade> test.
[07:53] <melissawade> can anybody see my message?
[07:53] <Flannel> melissawade: Nope.
[07:53] <melissawade> lol. great.
[07:53] <stealz> I can't see your message, either
[07:53] <bullgard4_> melissawade: No.
[07:53] <luaa> fmauro: I am trying to let it work with lua
[07:53] <melissawade> i wasnt able to send messages earlier.
[07:53] <bkerensa> bullgard4_: Should be for flash
[07:53] <melissawade> hold on, im reading the guidelines
[07:53] <luaa> and the manual is based on php/cgi
[07:54] <idefix> fmauro bkerensa thx!
[07:54] <fmauro> luaa: does it even have a lua backend?
[07:55] <bkerensa> idefix: No problem
[07:55] <luaa> dunno
[07:55] <fmauro> luaa: pls tell me exactly what you are trying to acheive, otherwise it is hard to help. maybe you could use another webserver
[07:56] <bullgard4_> bkerensa: Do you mean this? '~$ aptitude why nspluginwrapper; i flashplugin-installer depends on nspluginwrapper'
[07:56] <bkerensa> bullgard4_: Yes
[07:56] <luaa> I would like to use POST in Hiawatha
[07:56] <bullgard4_> bkerensa: Thank you very much for your help.
[07:57] <luaa> also to make a reverse proxy
[07:57] <bkerensa> bullgard4_: Not a problem
[07:57] <luaa> that's my goal
[07:57] <goddard> my ubuntu windows are kind of laggy
[07:58] <theadmin> goddard: Disable visual effects if any.
[07:58] <goddard> i have updated my nvidia drivers and they are still laggy
[07:58] <bkerensa> goddard: On Unity or Gnome?
[07:58] <bkerensa> goddard: What release of Ubuntu are you running?
[07:58] <KVIrcFive> ugh
[07:58] <goddard> they shouldn't be if i have a GTX460M right?
[07:59] <superdmp> Hi - I am trying out SpamAssassin, and this script here: http://advosys.ca/examples/filter-misc/sideline.sh has a line in it that I want to modify:
[07:59] <superdmp> 	$ANOMY/bin/sanitizer.pl $ANOMY_CONF < out.$$ 2>>$ANOMY_LOG | $SENDMAIL "$@"
[07:59] <goddard> bkerensa: running 11.04
[07:59] <goddard> bkerensa: Unity
[07:59] <KVIrcFive> had Ubuntu 11.04 32bit clean version, latest updates running on my pc, same version running from the live cd on laptop, worked fine.
[07:59] <GirlyGirl> I have this problem, I reconfigured fancontrol on my eeepc as the fan vas a bit too fast by default , now when I shut down or restart, just as the computer goes off or to bios, the fan maxes out its speed. Its really anoying when I restart as the in windows the fan keeps spinning at 4300 rpm
[07:59] <superdmp> I want to remove the references to ANOMY
[07:59] <bkerensa> goddard: Some nvidia hardware is still having issues with Unity
[07:59] <luaa> fmauro: so, do you know how to do this?
[07:59] <superdmp> but I am not sure of the way that syntax works
[07:59] <goddard> bkerensa:  apparently
[07:59] <fmauro> luaa: the developer himself sais he does not plan on implementing proxy functionality: http://www.hiawatha-webserver.org/forum/topic/280
[07:59] <KVIrcFive> Now did the 64 bit version and I can't seem to ping the pc from the laptop. :/ but I DO have internet
[08:00] <KVIrcFive> like wtf
[08:00] <bkerensa> goddard: Yeah... If you live in Portland you should bring it to a LoCo meet and we can have a look
[08:00] <goddard> bkerensa:  whats that?
[08:00] <GirlyGirl_> sorry session quit any ideas I mist?
[08:00] <GirlyGirl_> edit missed
[08:00] <bkerensa> goddard: Ubuntu Oregon LoCo (Local Community Team)
[08:01] <goddard> bkerensa:  is this like a business or something?
[08:01] <bkerensa> goddard: Nope... Regional Community Team for Ubuntu
[08:01] <goddard> hmm nifty
[08:01] <bkerensa> yep
[08:01] <theadmin> GirlyGirl_: Not really, ghost your old nickname by the way
[08:02] <goddard> bkerensa: sounds cool when is the next one?
[08:02] <bkerensa> goddard: see PM :)
[08:02] <goddard> bkerensa: and i live in Salem
[08:02] <GirlyGirl_> theadmin: my old nickname was not ghost
[08:02] <bkerensa> goddard: We do Salem too :)
[08:02] <theadmin> GirlyGirl_: I know, it was "GirlyGirl". Telling you to do "/msg nickserv ghost GirlyGirl <your password>"
[08:02] <theadmin> GirlyGirl_: So it doesn't hang here
[08:03] <GirlyGirl_> theadmin: I don't have a pass just free join
[08:03] <theadmin> GirlyGirl_: Ah okay
[08:03] <GirlyGirl_> theadmin: timed out
[08:05] <stealz> I am running dual monitors and have some flash issues: When going full screen, Flash Videos open on monitor A with resolution of Monitor B. Is there any way to have them use the appropriate resolution for the appropriate monitor
[08:05] <JoseP> ok I'm out. I'll be back tomorrow
[08:06] <theadmin> stealz: It's Flash, nothing you can do, it's buggy
[08:06] <theadmin> stealz: Wait for Adobe to fix it, unlikely though
[08:06] <stealz> :/
[08:07] <stealz> Anyone found a way to fix the leaving fullscreen, like the HEX hack for windows?
[08:08] <GirlyGirl_> ldr: No, and it was fine before I configured fancontrol and on windows (if I don't use Ubuntu first) the fan speed adjusts fine
[08:08] <TA5K> Hi, I'm trying to get my GLX libs back, but even reinstalling the packages don't show libGLXcore in /usr/libs/ What did I wrong?
[08:08] <Flannel> TA5K: What's the output of `dpkg -S /usr/libs/libGLXcore`
[08:09] <theadmin> Flannel: ain't it dpkg-query -S?
[08:09] <GirlyGirl_> TA5K: Produce out put for "pkg -S /usr/libs/libGLXcore"
[08:09] <GirlyGirl_> sorry dpkg
[08:09] <TA5K> GirlyGirl_: no path found matching pattern /usr/libs/libGLXcore.
[08:09] <Hyperbyte> GirlyGirl_, fancontrol has options to restore fan speed to 100% on exit
[08:10] <GirlyGirl_> Hyperbyte: So it can be changed from that how?
[08:10] <Hyperbyte> GirlyGirl_, it has that to make sure it doesn't leave the fan sitting at 10%.  I'd say deinstall fan control, and use the fan speed control from your BIOS, if you have any.
[08:10] <Flannel> theadmin: dpkg is sort of a catchall for a number of dpkg-* programs
[08:10] <Hyperbyte> GirlyGirl_, not sure how, I used fan control once, then removed it for exactly this reason. :-)
[08:10] <theadmin> Flannel: I think dpkg-query can search not-installed packages too though?
[08:10] <GirlyGirl_> Hyperbyte: No such think its a laptop bios
[08:11] <theadmin> Flannel: Actually no, that's stupid to think
[08:11] <Flannel> theadmin: That's apt-file
[08:11] <Flannel> theadmin: dpkg knows nothing about repositories :)
[08:11] <TA5K> Is there an howto for reinstalling the default video drivers in Ubuntu 11.04 (clean reinstall)?
[08:12] <Hyperbyte> GirlyGirl_, a laptop without fan control in the bios?  I'd check with your manufacturer to read the manual to make sure.  Probably you can enable some option to scale the processor down when you don't need it.  Performance vs. quiet.
[08:12] <theadmin> Flannel: I'm used to "pacman -So" and "pacman -Qo" :P
[08:12] <dr_willis> TA5K:  for what chipset
[08:12] <TA5K> dr_willis: I have a hybrid system INtel and NV
[08:12] <Mrokii> Hello. Does anybdoy know a good app that takes a written sentence and translates it into spoken language?
[08:12] <nfun> hello can anyone help me about ubuntu boot loader?
[08:12] <GirlyGirl_> Hyperbyte: Its a netbook ASUS 1005ha the bios is very limited doesn't even have thermal monitor etc though sensors exist
[08:12] <desss> hi, could anyone help me to setup dual monitors? my 2nd monitor is properly plugged inn but gnome-display-properties seems not to recognize it
[08:12] <TA5K> Dragnslcr: both available in lspci
[08:12] <iceroot> !grub2 | nfun
[08:13] <dr_willis> TA5K:  oh  one of thoooose  problenatic things
[08:13] <Hyperbyte> GirlyGirl_, like I said, check the manual of your laptop, contact your manufacturer, look through the options of Fan control.  This is definitely not an Ubuntu problem.
[08:13] <TA5K> dr_willis: yes, but it worked welll
[08:14] <nfun> I have dual boot with windows and it worked fine with start up manager after I updated system I can't put default
[08:14] <nfun> windows
[08:14] <TA5K> dr_willis: maybe I only need to revert the hole gfx driver thing (clean) ... than it should work
[08:14] <nfun> i searched about grab I am new user
[08:15] <nfun> but I can't fix it
[08:15] <nfun> grub*
[08:16] <ministerdude> FF 5 update. please someone tell me how to get it
[08:16] <theadmin> ministerdude: Welcome back, and only from Firefox PPAs
[08:17] <TA5K> hmm purging everything with gfx, xorg, nv and intel might be like reinstalling the hole system
[08:17] <ministerdude> Please help. hi olga :)
[08:17] <fschneid> !firefox | ministerdude
[08:19] <rumba> I've followed the instructions from this site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RcLocalHowto and in my /etc/init.d/local file I put date >>/a/file and echo $* >>/a/file but after a reboot all I see is one timestamp and the parameter "stop". Shouldn't my file be executed at startup? I see S80local in rc{2,3,4,5}.d so why doesn't my script execute at boot time?
[08:20] <dr_willis> rumba:  its /etc/rc.local you edit
[08:20] <TA5K> I don't get why additional driver don't writes the GLXcore
[08:21] <dr_willis> and be sure  commands are above the exit 0 line rumba
[08:21] <Hyperbyte> dr_willis, then I guess that wiki page needs fixing.
[08:22] <rumba> dr_willis: So I should create a file /etc/rc.local ?
[08:22] <dr_willis>  rumba  its allready there
[08:22] <Hyperbyte> rumba, it should already be there.  You're not an idiot by the way. ;-)
[08:22] <rumba> I'm sorry, I'm not very good at this... I'm trying to write a startup script to create a reverse SSH tunnel.
[08:23] <dr_willis> and the /etc/init.d/whatever file should of been a script i imagine. with a lot of stuff in it
[08:23] <TA5K> if I activated nvidia_current driver, there must be a driver libGLXcore* in /usr/lib/ I guess?!
[08:23] <dr_willis> you normally just edit /etc/rc.local and thats it
[08:24] <newb> what program do i use to rip a dvd to my hard drive?
[08:24] <rumba> dr_willis: Thanks. Hyperbyte: Why do you say that?
[08:24] <bullgard4_> newb: Sound juicer
[08:25] <dr_willis> rumba:  say what?  i dot even have a /rtc/init.d/local here
[08:25] <Hyperbyte> rumba, I misread. :(  Sorry.  I thought dr_willis said 'idiot', but he said 'edit'.  I thought it was a bit uncharacteristic for him, so me misreading makes a lot more sense.
[08:25] <Hyperbyte> Apologies all around.
[08:25] <newb> bullgard4, not music films
[08:25] <dr_willis> service scripts are in /etc/init and /etc/init.d
[08:26] <rumba> dr_willis: I followed the guide in the URL I posted. It said to create that file and call update-rc.d
[08:26] <bullgard4_> newb: Your message is too short to be comprehensible.
[08:26] <rumba> Hyperbyte: Now worries :)
[08:26] <newb> bullgard4, not a music ripper a film ripper
[08:26] <dr_willis> rumba:  guide is wrong i guess. or very old
[08:26] <dr_willis> rumba:  that would be to make a new service..
[08:27] <dr_willis> for simple commands.. add them to /etc/rc.local
[08:27] <rumba> rebootin'
[08:28] <TA5K> oki I purge the xserver-core
[08:28] <fmauro> rumba: if your just trying to log the startup date/time you could also use uptime. (end of blind suggestion)
[08:28] <fmauro> aww he quit.
[08:28] <dr_willis> bbl ;) gotta do some work
[08:29] <bullgard4_> newb: http://handbrake.fr/downloads.php
[08:30] <dyd> how to use the water effect on ubuntu? i just did it for mistake but dunno how to m ake it again
[08:30] <dyd> :D
[08:30] <theadmin> !ccsm | dyd
[08:30] <dyd> theadmin: i've already enabled it, i just want to know how to enable it
[08:30] <theadmin> dyd: ...wut
[08:30] <anygivenname> fail2ban is blocking my access....I found a link that fixes the same error I have on my log but I can't understand it......can someone help me ?
[08:30] <dyd> theadmin: i've already enabled it on compiz, i just want to know how to do it -:_D
[08:31] <theadmin> dyd: Ah. Well I dunno when that effect happens, sorry, not a fan of eyecandy myself
[08:31] <dyd> theadmin: ok google said ctrl+f9
[08:31] <newb> bullgard4, tks
[08:33] <Braid3r> hi all
[08:33] <bullgard4_> newb: "WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa"
[08:33] <Braid3r> I need some help with mounting microsd card
[08:34] <TA5K> Here we are ... GLX is back again
[08:34] <Braid3r> anyone have any ideas?
[08:34] <fmauro> Braid3r: what exactly is failing. please be more specific
[08:34] <Braid3r> your help would be appreciated
[08:34] <Braid3r> its failing to mount.
[08:34] <TA5K> purge and reinstall xserver-xorg-core to fix GLX probs ,)
[08:35] <anygivenname> fail2ban is blocking my access....I found a link that fixes the same error I have on my log but I can't understand it......can someone help me ?
[08:35] <fmauro> Braid3r: do you have some kind of integrated cardreader, or usb drive, or what is your setup exactly
[08:36] <Braid3r> fmauro, it is an intergrated  cardreader for an Acer travelmate 4230. I have googled a fairbit but with no luck
[08:37] <TA5K> btw is it possible to encrypt /home later without moving the files to another folder?
[08:37] <fmauro> Braid3r: okay, see if the card reader is listed when you type lsusb in a terminal
[08:38] <rumba> Well what do you know... It worked :D Thanks, dr_willis!
[08:38] <gurkee> I am just wondering how dangerous it is to give someone sudo rights for aptitude..any estimations on this issue?
[08:39] <Braid3r> fmauro, it does not list when using lsusb
[08:39] <TA5K> empathy chat doesn't connect on startup even if it's checked in prefs... any idea?
[08:39] <fmauro> Braid3r: okay, give me a minute, I think I have a laptop with a 5 in 1 card reader laying around somewhere. sec
[08:40] <newb> where would i get libdvdcss library
[08:40] <gurkee> Will someone be able to install malicious software with sudo rights for aptitude?
[08:40] <fmauro> Braid3r: is it okay if I pm you so we can sort this out?
[08:41] <Braid3r> fmauro, :cheers,
[08:41] <Braid3r> fmauro, :cheers, its all good
[08:42] <Geroz> Hi all. I have problem with PERL. Is here somebody which know some PERL ? thx
[08:42] <theadmin> Geroz: I do know Perl, if you mean the language.
[08:43] <theadmin> Geroz: However, if you mean the Paranoically Ecliptic Rubbish Lister, I do not.
[08:43] <shomon> hi, chromium browser has an illegal instruction. How do I deport it, I mean, fix it?
[08:43] <shomon> I just updated with apt-get today... ubuntu 10.10
[08:43] <idefix> I have received a message in my mailbox which has X-spam-status: Yes, how can that be?
[08:43] <GirlyGirl> shomon: send a bug report to google
[08:43] <shomon> it's already there GirlyGirl http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=9007 - I'm more interested in getting chromium running again in ubuntu though
[08:44] <Geroz> theadmin yes. I mean language. I installed svnnotify and when i run this program, get this mess:
[08:44] <Geroz> [Can't locate Net/SMTP_auth.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.1 ...
[08:44] <Geroz> Do you know how fix it?
[08:44] <HarryHirsch123> hi
[08:44] <llutz> Geroz: youwant libnet-smtpauth-perl
[08:44] <gurkee> In other words: will "intelligent guy" + "root privileges for aptitude" + "some time" be able to compromise the system?
[08:44] <HarryHirsch123> can somebody help me with my problem
[08:45] <DistroJockey> gurkee: Don't see why not
[08:45] <GirlyGirl> shomon: Then you must wait for a fix, if it runs from GUI what's the big deal
[08:45] <gurkee> DistroJockey, thanks
[08:45] <shomon> does it run from gui?
[08:45] <Geroz> llutz try it ...thx
[08:45] <shomon> it doesn't
[08:46] <acerz> hey. what do I do to boot ubuntu straight to the logon scree skipping the options/mode menu #newtolinux
[08:46] <Geroz> llutz Now is error "No SASL mechanism found"
[08:46] <idefix> seriously I have in the junk tab "check custom headers for junk" header X-Spam-Flag contains value YES and X-Spam-Level contains value *****, what's wrong why won't it kick the spam from my inbox?
[08:47] <desss> hi, could anyone help me to setup dual monitors? my 2nd monitor is properly plugged inn but gnome-display-properties seems not to recognize it
[08:47] <GirlyGirl> shomon: Even if it doesn't work at all wait for a fix or use http://www.google.com/chrome?platform=linux chrome not chromium
[08:47] <HarryHirsch123> can somebody help me
[08:47] <GirlyGirl> HarryHirsch123: what is the issue
[08:48] <llutz> Geroz: try installing libauthen-sasl-perl
[08:48] <shomon> thanks, I'll try that. I was trying to figure out if the latest package had a problem or if I could try reverting to a previous version
[08:48] <rumba> My machine ("local") is behind NAT and I want to access it from another one ("remote"). I've tried to follow this guide http://www.howtoforge.com/reverse-ssh-tunneling with no success. Doing "ssh -R 19999:127.0.0.1:22 user@remote" connects me to the remote machine via SSH, opens a shell on the remote and the port 19999, but I can't ssh to it. I've tried to "telnet 127.0.0.1 19999" to check if the port is open and it is, but it is close
[08:48] <share> howdy
[08:48] <idefix> do you guys want me having spam in my inbox or so? are you sabotaging me?
[08:48] <GirlyGirl> idefix: This is not an ubuntu issue
[08:48] <Geroz> llutz libauthen-sasl-perl is already the newest version.
[08:49] <GirlyGirl> idefix: maybe #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:49] <shomon> rumba you might get more help in other channels for that kind of thing. Maybe #security or something related to ssh
[08:49] <idefix> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:49] <rumba> shomon: Good idea. I'll try #linux first.
[08:49] <acerz> ubuntu boot? anyone?
[08:49] <HarryHirsch123> i have make a link on my desktop from my home folder.... after the update to 11.04 i dont want to have this link.... i delete the link with the gconf editor
[08:50] <HarryHirsch123> but all things in the folder are delete too
[08:51] <theadmin> HarryHirsch123: This makes close to no sense.
[08:51] <theadmin> HarryHirsch123: Probably the upgrade broke something.
[08:51] <ldr> acerzacerz what do you want disable the grub os select screen?
[08:52] <acerz> yes
[08:52] <ldr> acerz then just comment open /etc/default/grub
[08:52] <ldr> and comment timout out
[08:52] <ldr> comment hidden timeout with 1 or something in
[08:52] <ldr> and run update-grub
[08:52] <kill3rcam> i downloaded an emerald theme and found it was a .gz file of which i am unaware of how to extract can anyone help please?
[08:53] <ldr> or set timeout simply to 0 should work too
[08:53] <ldr> i mean GRUB_TIMEOUT=0
[08:53] <ldr> and the update-grub
[08:53] <HarryHirsch123> sry for my very bad english
[08:53] <acerz> ok
[08:53] <acerz> will try that asap
[08:53] <HarryHirsch123> is here a chat in german to?
[08:54] <ldr> yes
[08:54] <ldr> #ubuntu-de
[08:54] <acerz> I thought htere were keyboard shortcuts like the windows F8 to view the extra boot options wehn needed
[08:54] <HarryHirsch123> tnaks
[08:54] <HarryHirsch123> *thanks
[08:55] <ldr> acerz: yes it is its shift but the default beahvior is to show it anyway
[08:55] <idefix> I have tried another client but I'd like to keep on using this one
[08:55] <idefix> GirlyGirl ^
[08:55] <Rapp> hi everybody!
[08:55] <GirlyGirl> idefix: Sorry can't help with evo but did the same issue occur or not
[08:55] <jussi> idefix: did you have the issue in the other client?
[08:55] <shomon> GirlyGirl, I installed chrome but then did an apt-get install --reinstall and now chromium works... so I guess something had got mixed up somewhere...
[08:55] <Rapp> does the ubuntu live cd come with nvidia drivers included? i need a live cd with working 3D acceleration
[08:56] <TA5K> in which folder should I install propritary software, which is not installed by software center?
[08:56] <idefix> I tried Thunderbird but I think I still got spam, I'm not 100% sure though
[08:56] <shomon> thanks very much for your help though
[08:56] <ldr> Rapp, afaik no cause of law issues
[08:56] <GirlyGirl> shomon: dependency must be that was unpecifed while packaging chromium
[08:56] <jussi> TA5K: /opt is generally considered sane for "other" items
[08:56] <TA5K> jussi: oki, thnaks
[08:56] <idefix> jussi yes I still got spam using the other client
[08:57] <share> Ubuntu 10.04 or 11.04?
[08:57] <share> Unity sucks right
[08:57] <ldr> depends unity has its moments ;)
[08:57] <ldr> its definitly good for touchscreen use
[08:58] <share> ldr: I want to dualboot in laptop
[08:58] <share> ldr: it has windows 7 with no encryption.. and I want to install ubuntu with encryption
[08:58] <share> (i dont use the windows 7 but other ppl do)
[08:58] <idefix> jussi what could that mean? do I need some sort of upgrade of ubuntu?
[08:59] <ldr> okay this should be no problem with any ubuntu definitly unity has nothing to do with that
[08:59] <TA5K> share: install it on a flash drive?
[08:59] <share> TA5K: it's much slower
[08:59] <share> i use that right now
[08:59] <idefix> what could cause a malfunction of inbox-spammer on two different e-mail clients?
[08:59] <TA5K> encrypt /home is enough
[08:59] <share> TA5K: I want full encryption
[09:00] <nsadmin> sounds like fear to me
[09:00] <share> no, sounds privacy to me
[09:00] <share> i use config files outside /home
[09:00] <share> etc.
[09:00] <idefix> I'm sad
[09:01] <TA5K> link them to /home/.config :)
[09:01] <share> !ot | idefix
[09:01] <kill3rcam> downloaded a .gz file a am unaware of how to extract it any help would be appreciated. sorry for my newbishness
[09:01] <theadmin> kill3rcam: Is it a .tar.gz?
[09:01] <theadmin> kill3rcam: Or just a plain .gz?
[09:01] <GirlyGirl> kill3rcam: right click extract
[09:01] <kill3rcam> .gz
[09:01] <theadmin> kill3rcam: gzip -d file.gz
[09:02] <kill3rcam> thanks
[09:02] <nsadmin> how would I install the equiv of debian's firmware-linux-nonfree
[09:02] <theadmin> GirlyGirl: bleh, GUI extractors :D
[09:02] <TA5K> share: don't you want that someone watches the partition or is it because of tor surfing e.g
[09:02] <GirlyGirl> theadmin: well he did say he was new
[09:03] <share> TA5K: I lol @ tor
[09:03] <theadmin> GirlyGirl: A plain .gz is not something you see often these days though, hm?
[09:03] <share> TA5K: do some research about encryption in laptops and youll find the reasons
[09:04] <iceroot> theadmin: Packages.gz :)
[09:04] <GirlyGirl> theadmin: true mainly zip, rar, tar.gz
[09:04] <th0r> nsadmin: that file is pretty generic. If you can't find the ubuntu equivalent I think you could get away with using the debian package
[09:04] <kill3rcam> do i need to cd to the files directory before extracting?
[09:04] <TA5K> share: I guess, I missed the point that it's a laptop
[09:04] <share> k
[09:04] <Spikehead777> Hello everyone.
[09:05] <theadmin> kill3rcam: duh.
[09:05] <kill3rcam> :p
[09:05] <theadmin> GirlyGirl: Sorry, may I pm you?
[09:06] <Spikehead777> I'm having an issue with my Ubuntu partition. I got a USB551L 3G/4G device about a month ago, and I can't get it to connect to the Internet. I'm on my Windows partition at the moment.
[09:07] <share> nsadmin: and btw swap should also be encrypted :)
[09:07] <theadmin> Spikehead777: How is that related to the *partition*?
[09:07] <theadmin> Spikehead777: Either way, you are looking for usb_modeswitch.
[09:07] <share> bbl
[09:07] <Spikehead777> usb_modeswitch?
[09:08] <theadmin> Spikehead777: That's the thing which lets one connect to the Internet using USB devices
[09:08] <theadmin> Spikehead777: e.g. phones, 3g modems, ...
[09:08] <Spikehead777> I see.
[09:08] <nsadmin> I don't necessarily mind getting away with stuff... but, I'm wanting to try ubuntu. I installed it in kind of a weird way, that stopped at several points, and didn't allow for a full moreorless automated thing. I might throw it away and reinstall if I can figure how to get it to run to completion
[09:09] <nsadmin> share: you like the idea of being so slow you have to get out and push? :)
[09:09] <Spikehead777> Hmm... I didn't have to do anything before when I had my old USB727.
[09:10] <nsadmin> I guess one school of thought holds that's what cpu and ram is for
[09:11] <Spikehead777> I will say that using "partition" was a bad choice of words, though I wanted to make clear that I'm currently on the Internet with the same modem that I want to connect on Ubuntu with.
[09:11] <Spikehead777> So, I'll give that command a try and if it doesn't work, then I'll be back in about 10-15 minutes.
[09:12] <theadmin> Spikehead777: There is no command as such. Google around.
[09:12] <nsadmin> share, having said all that, certain applications need to keep data private, such as medical records and billing
[09:13] <theadmin> Spikehead777: Boot your Ubuntu install with VirtualBox if you want to work with Windows and Ubuntu at the same time, if that helps
[09:15] <Mraen> Hello there folks. I have a question, If i wanted to maybe help with some bite size bugs in ubuntu, what coding programming language should I learn?
[09:16] <theadmin> Mraen: C, C++, Python.
[09:16] <Lasers> !contribute | Mraen
[09:16] <nsadmin> Mraen: to start with, c, c++, sh, bash (yes, know the difference), perl, python
[09:17] <nsadmin> those are the languages used in the minimal possible install
[09:17] <Spikehead777> I'll give both of those a try.
[09:17] <GirlyGirl> theadmin: ok
[09:17] <nsadmin> what languages do you want to use/learn?
[09:18] <GirlyGirl> theadmin: yes you may, sorry was away
[09:18] <Mraen> Well, im trying to learn python right now.
[09:18] <nsadmin> good start
[09:18] <nsadmin> what do you know already?
[09:19] <Mraen> not much really just started yesterday.
[09:19] <nsadmin> oh, ok...
[09:19] <theadmin> Mraen: Python and Ruby are great for starters
[09:20] <nsadmin> so, you're starting on a path that's going to take you through abiliby to script, and increase that ability
[09:22] <Mraen> Yeah okey, Well thanks for your time folks! have a great day!
[09:22] <nsadmin> if you're just now starting,
[09:23] <nsadmin> maybe that's just as well... he'll find out himself how much effort/time it will take, and he wants to do it, so... just as well he left right at that point
[09:23] <planeteve> Hello
[09:23] <Lion-O> i have this logged error: Main -> Error opening /etc/bopm.pid: Permission denied i run bopm on ubuntu , what should i do?
[09:24] <nsadmin> first find out why the permission is denied
[09:24] <Geroz> Somebody know what is wrong ? Somebody know what is wrong ? No SASL mechanism found ...............................lib libauthen-sasl-perl is installed
[09:24] <Lion-O> ubuntu deny the access
[09:25] <nsadmin> Lion-O: why?
[09:25] <_ruben> pid files dont belong in /etc so bopm is misbehaving
[09:25] <Lion-O> I Don't Know :\
[09:25] <nsadmin> so then, the next thing to do is find out
[09:25] <Lion-O> should i move the location?
[09:26] <nsadmin> (just so you know, in the process of finding out why permission is denied, maybe you'll find out more about permissions)
[09:26] <Lion-O> i tried to search and look how to change permissions
[09:27] <nsadmin> that's good
[09:27] <Lion-O> there is only change use permissions
[09:27] <Lion-O> user*
[09:27] <Tom^> hai /b of linux irc channels
[09:27] <nsadmin> did you gain additional knowledge when you did that?
[09:28] <Lion-O> (nsadmin) no
[09:28] <Lion-O> i know that are alot of things that ubuntu need password for , how do i disable that?
[09:28] <nsadmin> that's a different question
[09:29] <Lion-O> no , thats what prevent my bopm from funning correctly
[09:29] <Lion-O> running*
[09:29] <nsadmin> I'm a debian user trying out ubuntu pretty much for first time, I heard you can do something with configuring sudo
[09:29] <jpds> Lion-O: check your configuration? Why is it putting a PID file in /etc ?
[09:30] <Lion-O> (jpds) i have an answer for that Q , ill go get it :)
[09:31] <DistroJockey> !sudo
[09:31] <nsadmin> oh, didn't notice that, good point
[09:31] <nsadmin> pid files are supposed to go in /var/run
[09:31] <Lion-O> (JGJones_) bopm.pid is for storing the process ID of the running BOPM
[09:31] <Lion-O> (jpds)
[09:32] <jpds> Lion-O: Yes, but it's going to the wrong place.
[09:32] <Lion-O> (jpds) (JGJones_) bopm.pid is for storing the process ID of the running BOPM
[09:32] <Lion-O> oh -.-
[09:32] <jpds> Lion-O: Check your /etc/bopm/bopm.conf file.
[09:32] <jpds> Or wherever your configuration file is.
[09:33] <Lion-O> my conf is on etc folder
[09:33] <Lion-O> what should i check?
[09:33] <nsadmin> this is also sounding like you're putting the binary executable on the machine by hand... and not installing a package of it
[09:34] <nsadmin> what's bopm do?
[09:34] <jpds> nsadmin: apt-cache show bopm
[09:34] <theadmin> !info bopm
[09:34] <Lion-O> i installed bopm.when i saw it have permission problems i brought "bopm.pid" because i thought it has a problem with creating the file
[09:34] <Lion-O> but that didn't work at all
[09:35] <nsadmin> jpds: do you think he's using the package of bopm?
[09:35] <Lion-O> i compiled it
[09:36] <nsadmin> oh, ok... anything wrong with the packaged one?
[09:36] <Lion-O> in the conf it says the location of the file is : "/etc/bopm.pid"
[09:36] <Lion-O> packeged one?
[09:36] <th0r> hehehe
[09:37] <Lion-O> i don't follow
[09:37] <nsadmin> hmm.
[09:37] <Lion-O> packeged is pre-compiled?
[09:37] <nsadmin> there should be a ubuntu package of it
[09:37] <Lion-O> of bopm?
[09:37] <nsadmin> and the config gets automatically written (yes) and it starts up
[09:38] <nsadmin> all as a resuolt of installing the package
[09:38] <Lion-O> tell me nsadmin...
[09:38] <Lion-O> how does it know what to put in the config?
[09:38] <Lion-O> ip port password
[09:38] <Lion-O> s
[09:39] <nsadmin> the person who packaged it makes decisions about that
[09:39] <Lion-O> so it wouldn't work for me unless i change it accordingly
[09:39] <Lion-O> (?)
[09:40] <nsadmin> well compiling it yourself should work once you adjust things
[09:40] <ThinkT510> !find bopm
[09:40] <th0r> Lion-O: do you know what this program does?
[09:40] <Lion-O> yes
[09:40] <Lion-O> i do
[09:41] <theadmin> !info bopm | ThinkT510
[09:41] <nsadmin> !find nsadmin
[09:41] <th0r> so much for installing nsadmin <smile>
[09:41] <Lion-O> no deal? :(
[09:41] <nsadmin> can't even find me
[09:41] <ThinkT510> theadmin: sorry, i should have directed that at Lion-O
[09:41] <theadmin> !botabuse | nsadmin
[09:42] <theadmin> ThinkT510: Oh oops
[09:42] <DistroJockey> !package | Lion-O  Most packages that require variables will give instructions on how to change those
[09:43]  * Lion-O is searching...
[09:45] <Lion-O> i found the package but i dont know how to dowmload it :\
[09:46] <Lion-O> download* -.-
[09:46] <nsadmin> Lion-O: you could pursue info about unix-style permissions... this would be the first day in a basic, beginning unix indroduction class, and is essential if you're going to deal with these things
[09:46] <nsadmin> and, you could try the padkaged version
[09:47] <DistroJockey> Lion-O: One way from a terminal is:  sudo apt-get install package-name
[09:48] <luaa> fmauro: I am now using lighttpd
[09:48] <Lion-O> sudo apt-get , what is sudo apt-get? nsadmin , where can i begin?
[09:48] <nsadmin> how would I open a terminal in the classic ubuntu gui?
[09:48] <Lion-O> Be Back Later
[09:48] <luaa> i got the problem I cant start any service in lighttpd
[09:49] <DistroJockey> nsadmin: Click Applications - Accessories - Terminal
[09:50] <nsadmin> DistroJockey: thanks for replying. that slot has only two items: help and time/date
[09:51] <DistroJockey> nsadmin: Not sure what you are looking at then. Can you provide a screenshot?
[09:54] <nsadmin> I don't think I have a screenshot app at this moment. this is a new install of ubuntu base that I added unity, xorg and a few other minor things to, that I added packages to
[09:54] <DistroJockey> nsadmin: ahh, yeah, looks like you have a very minimal install
[09:55] <DistroJockey> nsadmin: You could install  gnome-terminal  to add that menu entry
[09:55] <DarsVaeda> hi I could need some help configuring postfix...I got it all setup but when I try to testmail I get: "postdrop: warning: unable to look up public/pickup: No such file or directory"
[09:55] <nsadmin> I didn't actually intend to do things this way... and once I can figure out how to have it install completely in one shot, I nay replace and redo
[09:56] <th0r> nsadmin: used to be able to install ubuntu-desktop
[09:56] <nsadmin> ok, and to get it in the menu system, update-menus?
[09:56] <DistroJockey> nsadmin: Installing  ubuntu-desktop  should do all
[09:56] <DistroJockey> nsadmin: nope, it will be done for you
[09:56] <th0r> nsadmin: that meta-package installed a full gnome desktop system
[09:56] <nsadmin> ok, I'll start that
[09:57] <nsadmin> th0r: in 11.4?
[09:57] <DistroJockey> nsadmin: yep :)
[09:57] <nsadmin> ok,
[09:57] <th0r> nsadmin: I moved to debian after 10.04, that is why I said 'used to' <smile>
[09:58] <DistroJockey> th0r, nsadmin: I'm running Debian with Ubuntu 11.04 in a VM atm :)
[09:59] <nsadmin> it's downloading 540 pkgs
[09:59] <DistroJockey> nsadmin: sounds about right
[09:59] <th0r> DistroJockey: I usually have the same thing...just haven't gotten around to installing ubuntu yet
[09:59] <nsadmin> hmm, I have 4g in /usr, that enough?
[09:59] <Vustom> Has anyone used Turntable.fm before?
[09:59] <th0r> nsadmin: that should be plenty
[10:01] <DistroJockey> nsadmin: There are many options. There is also the  ubuntu-minimal  package
[10:01] <stevethepirate> Hi, I'm only getting output on 1 of my 2 screens.
[10:01] <fylefou> hello all!
[10:02] <nsadmin> I have about 16 g in about 201g of storage
[10:02] <fylefou> a question about service/multiservice/application system
[10:02] <nsadmin> I can expand everything but /
[10:02] <DistroJockey> nsadmin: plenty
[10:02] <fylefou> a first , it seem's very powerfull and the twistd very help full
[10:03] <nsadmin> on separate LVs are /home, /tmp. /var, /usr
[10:03] <th0r> nsadmin: how large is /
[10:03] <nsadmin> 1g
[10:03] <DistroJockey> eep
[10:03] <matus_> learning  python through Laby, somebody has time for tutorial - 'while loop' combination with 'def
[10:03] <DistroJockey> nsadmin: that won't work
[10:03] <nsadmin> and it's in a primary partition
[10:03] <th0r> nsadmin: that could be a problem. I have a debian install with just xfce and lxde, and use about 7G
[10:04] <fylefou> my question is , after inspect the source, it's seem's that startService don't return a deferred
[10:04] <nsadmin> in /?!
[10:04] <DistroJockey> nsadmin, th0r: need atleast 4GB (more is better)
[10:04] <DistroJockey> nsadmin: for / yeah
[10:04] <th0r> agreed....4GB minimumm
[10:04] <omar_> How to make the size of dah smaller in nity
[10:04] <fylefou> ooop s soory bad chanel ;)
[10:04] <nsadmin> remember /var and /usr are separate
[10:04] <omar_> *dash
[10:05] <nsadmin> and /tmp
[10:05] <omar_> Is it possible to make the size of dash smaller in Ubuntu Unity?
[10:05] <nsadmin> having said all that, I may throw this inst away and do it again
[10:05] <DistroJockey> nsadmin: most packages go outside /usr, usually in /sbin I think, which will be under / in your setup
[10:06] <shishir> i wnat  to make my pendrive bootable
[10:06] <nsadmin> right, and /lib I suppose
[10:06] <shishir> how can i do so ?
[10:06] <th0r> nsadmin: I would set aside 15GB or so for / and then the rest in /home
[10:06] <htpc> hi does anyone here use FreeNAS for there htpc server?
[10:06] <DistroJockey> nsadmin: yeah, /lib
[10:07] <DistroJockey> th0r, nsadmin: I concur
[10:07] <nsadmin> ubuntu shoudl be careful about that :)
[10:07] <Stormshadow> hi all - is there a quick fix regarding bootchart crashing in 10.04 with messages of the type  --- File "/usr/bin/bootchart", line 23, in <module>
[10:07] <Stormshadow>     sys.exit(main())
[10:07] <Stormshadow>  ---
[10:07] <DistroJockey> nsadmin: It does not do good atomatic partitioning on small drives I've found
[10:07] <DistroJockey> automatic^
[10:07] <nsadmin> should prefer /usr/lib, /usr/bin and /usr/sbin for most things, only very critical stuff like fdisk and partition repair stuff should go on /
[10:08] <nsadmin> well thats ok for me, this is 500g internal plus 2tb external
[10:08] <nsadmin> and the 201g is on the ext
[10:09] <shishir> i want to make my usb drive bootable  how can i do it from ubuntu plx help i am new at ubuntu
[10:09] <DistroJockey> nsadmin: Installing Ubuntu on an 8GB drive using the auto / and /home option fails for instance (with no errors)
[10:09] <nsadmin> I could put /boot on the 1g and put / in the volume group
[10:09] <DistroJockey> nsadmin: that's probably the better way to go
[10:10] <nsadmin> I pretty much guessed for this install
[10:10] <nsadmin> let's see how it's doing
[10:11] <DistroJockey> nsadmin: Pretty sure the reason your menus are mostly empty is because you ran out of space to install them
[10:11] <nsadmin> it's finished downloading the pkgs
[10:11] <nsadmin> no, that's not the reason
[10:11] <DistroJockey> nsadmin: the cached downloads will be in the /var partition, but no room in / to install them
[10:11] <nsadmin> this is a fairly special case
[10:12] <nsadmin> well let's see, it's done, so let's see where we;re at
[10:13] <nsadmin> so, / has about .73g, /var has 3.something
[10:14] <nsadmin> this is after downloading the packages and before installing them
[10:14] <DistroJockey> nsadmin: so far so good :)
[10:15] <nsadmin> I'll have it install them now
[10:15] <nsadmin> it's going
[10:17] <nsadmin> I guess it's going to check hardware at some point in the install?
[10:17] <desss> hi, could anyone help me to setup dual monitors? my 2nd monitor is properly plugged inn but gnome-display-properties seems not to recognize it
[10:17] <theadmin> desss: Does it show up if you run "xrandr" in terminal?
[10:18] <niklasfi> hi, my user does not show up on the logon screen. i guess this has to do with me changing the uid to 500 since i had that in fedora. is there a file i can add my name to?
[10:18] <DistroJockey> nsadmin: Don't think so
[10:18] <theadmin> niklasfi: I suggest you don't change your UIDs... But yeah, there should be some setup tool for GDM allowing to configure that.
[10:18] <desss> theadmin: how can I find out? it shows "*+" only at one monitor\
[10:19] <theadmin> niklasfi: iirc it was called "gdm2-setup"
[10:19] <desss> theadmin: Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1280 x 1024, maximum 4096 x 4096
[10:19] <desss> VGA2 connected 1280x1024+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 340mm x 270mm
[10:20] <theadmin> desss: Okay, so seriously only one screen found, hm
[10:20] <theadmin> desss: I dunno then xD Not really into hardware
[10:21] <desss> theadmin: well strange thing is hapenning: when i logout/login (restart X I guess), the 2nd screen "blinks" and an Ubuntu boot screen appears - it stays there till I turn the PC off, so somehow Ubuntu has to "see" the 2nd monitor
[10:22] <DistroJockey> desss: If you installed Nvidia or Ati drivers, there is usually a config utility under System - Preferences
[10:22] <desss> DistroJockey: there is no such utility, the next problem is that I use internal video card (Intel) and extern video card (nVidia) - both only have 1 VGA output, so I have to use both of them at the same time
[10:23] <somsip> quit
[10:23] <DistroJockey> desss: ahh, that makes things tricky
[10:24] <desss> DistroJockey: 2 monitors are working in Windows XP though (I tested in this very PC)
[10:24] <Mark-sketching> Hi! < Ubuntu 11.04 on a Lenovo X200 Tablet PC> I'm attempting to make shortcut keys for changing display brightness, so that I can change brightness while in tablet mode using a mini bluetooth keyboard. FN + HOME/END keys work, but I haven't been able to find the right command to bind the same function to other keys.
[10:25] <niklasfi> theadmin: the problem is that gdmsetup does not list my username
[10:26] <theadmin> niklasfi: Odd...
[10:26] <DistroJockey> desss: Not sure I can help much, but maybe this thread will give some ideas:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1387655
[10:26] <_rave> hi guys
[10:26] <niklasfi> theadmin: is there a group a user needs to be in in order to show up or something?
[10:27] <ldr> Mark-sketching, one second i got nearly the same laptop i will have a look into it
[10:27] <theadmin> niklasfi: I think it just shows UIDs with 1000 and above
[10:28] <niklasfi> theadmin: :(
[10:28] <airtonix> theadmin: there might be other factors
[10:28] <desss> theadmin: thank you very much, I will have a look at it
[10:29] <airtonix> niklasfi: theadmin: since this week after i installed natty, i created a user called "administrator" with the "users and groups" gui tool and changed it's uid to 999, it shows up on the login screen.
[10:29] <Mark-sketching> ldr:  cheers :)
[10:29] <DistroJockey> niklasfi: See point 5.5 at http://projects.gnome.org/gdm/docs/2.18/gdmsetupusage.html
[10:29] <niklasfi> there seems to be /etc/gdm/custom.conf: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/GDM if there is an Exclude directive, there certainly must be an Include as well
[10:31] <niklasfi> oops. now i know that if i restart gdm i get logged out :)
[10:31] <DistroJockey> :)
[10:35] <tryggvib> Can anybody explain to me the difference between /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf (and the other /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-*.conf)?
[10:35] <ldr> Mark-sketching, so: if you do setkeycodes 6b 224 and setkeycodes 66 225
[10:35] <ldr> Mark-sketching, you should be able to turn brightnes down with rotate and up with toolbox
[10:36] <Mark-sketching> ldr: ooh cheers, I'll try
[10:36] <Lasers> tryggvib: I'm guessing that blacklist is old and you should be using blacklist.conf instead.
[10:36] <ldr> Mark-sketching, http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Tablet_Hardware_Buttons here you can find you hexadecimal codes for diffrent buttons mapping to 225 always is brightness up to 224 is down
[10:37] <tryggvib> Lasers: thanks, so it's a legacy thing :)
[10:37] <nsadmin> done.
[10:37] <Mark-sketching> ldr: Right. Here goes :)
[10:38] <Lasers> tryggvib: Sure. New standards, I suppose. Also, the other *conf thing? It's just their own lines -- Makes it easy to read (and it looks nice). I think.
[10:38] <ldr> the same system you can use to map it to the buttons of your bluetooth keyboard as well
[10:38] <tryggvib> Lasers: ok, thanks
[10:38] <niklasfi> hey! it works. added "[greeter]\nInclude=username\n" to /etc/gdm/custom.conf
[10:38] <nsadmin> so, / has about .70g, /var still has 3.something
[10:39] <nsadmin> and /usr is using about 2g
[10:39] <theadmin> niklasfi: Glad you figured it out
[10:39] <theadmin> niklasfi: Just a suggestion, LXDM is easier to configure.
[10:40] <ChessTeach> is there a program that will take an arguement and display the arguement as a popup notification?
[10:40] <Fuchs> ChessTeach: notify-send
[10:40] <nsadmin> which is about what I expected...
[10:40] <Fuchs> takes two arguments, though
[10:40] <nsadmin> let's see what it does not
[10:40] <nsadmin> n ow
[10:40] <DistroJockey> niklasfi: Nice one :)
[10:40] <Mark-sketching> ldr: I know I'm being dumb here, but I get "$ setkeycodes 66 225
[10:40] <Mark-sketching> Couldn't get a file descriptor referring to the console" Am I missing something?
[10:41] <Guest13824> Mark-sketching: are you doing that in a tty?
[10:41] <Guest13824> guest.. what the..
[10:41] <ChessTeach> cool thanks Fuchs
[10:41] <DistroJockey> nsadmin: Looks good :)
[10:41] <Fuchs> no problem
[10:41] <Mark-sketching> Guest13824: in a terminal, yeah...
[10:41] <ldr> just do setkeycodes 66 225 in some terminal
[10:42] <ldr> should work
[10:42] <share> what's the preferable option to create space for ubuntu installation in a windows installation?
[10:42] <share> I have to resize windows partition right?
[10:42] <ldr> share, yes if you have no unpartitioned space left
[10:42] <ChessTeach> hmm that didn't work as expected, I want to redirect output to this program. notify send doesn't seem to be able to handle this
[10:42] <niklasfi> is there a way to make the notification a little more prominent?
[10:42] <jrib> Mark-sketching: not in a terminal... are you doing it in a tty?  (ctrl-alt-f1)
[10:43] <share> ldr: it's windows installation from factory it uses 1 partition for windows system and another for data.. no space left
[10:43] <ldr> share then oyu have to shrink one this can even the ubuntu installer
[10:43] <share> ldr: with gparted right
[10:43] <ChessTeach> anyone know a program that will take redirected output and display it as a notification?
[10:43] <DistroJockey> niklasfi: Which notification?
[10:43] <Mark-sketching> ldr: Ooh it's half working - it's just not quite the keys you mentioned
[10:43] <ldr> thats one way
[10:44] <ldr> oh okay
[10:44] <ldr> then i read the list wrong
[10:44] <theadmin> Mark-sketching: What exactly were you trying to do, again?
[10:44] <ldr> Mark-sketching, have a look in the list i sended you the link for
[10:44] <Mark-sketching> ldr: if it were the keys you mentioned that would be ideal, but it's actually come out as brightness + on the lock button, and I don't know where brightness- has gone to ;)
[10:44] <share> ldr: so first I make a backup of files in windows, then boot with livecd and resize with gparted?
[10:45] <Mark-sketching> theadmin: I'm attempting to bind brightness keys to the keys on the face of my Lenovo X200 tablet
[10:45] <ldr> hmm
[10:45] <Mark-sketching> theadmin: and ldr has very nearly sorted it out for me :)
[10:45] <ldr> Mark-sketching, sure you have a x200?
[10:45] <eni> yea
[10:45] <theadmin> Mark-sketching: Ah, I see.
[10:45] <Mark-sketching> ldr: hehe yeah. It's a UK model though
[10:45] <Mark-sketching> for what it's worth
[10:45] <niklasfi> DistroJockey: notify-send, which was just suggested... i would like to put something similar in my chronjobs file which reminds me to create a backup
[10:46] <eni> #linuxjambi
[10:46] <ldr> Mark-sketching, i think uk shpuldnt make a diffrence
[10:46] <ldr> did you opened the link i send to you?
[10:46] <Mark-sketching> ldr: can I use xev or something to find the right input?
[10:46] <ldr> xev no
[10:46] <ldr> i am trying to find the sae thing out right now
[10:47] <ldr> maybe someone here knows how to get scancodes for specific keys?
[10:47] <AdvoWork> hi there, whats up with: du -csh * --max-depth=1 /  im trying to find out disk usage, but with max-depth
[10:47] <DistroJockey> niklasfi: ohh. Sorry, no idea.
[10:47] <ldr> but you can just play around with the values in the link i send you maybe some other are the right buttons
[10:47] <ldr> i got the x201 and the scancodes are allright for me
[10:48] <ldr> Mark-sketching, i mean try something like setkeycodes e0 255,  or setkeycodes 12 255 and see where brightness up is
[10:48] <share> ldr: so I defrag windows first..
[10:48] <share> make backup files
[10:48] <share> and resize
[10:49] <Mark-sketching> ldr sudo setkeycodes 66 225 worked for the lock screen button
[10:50] <ldr> Mark-sketching, try something like setkeycodes e012 254 and see if the arrow button is then brihghtness down
[10:50] <ldr> i mean the butto with the clockwise arrow
[10:50] <jane1> ubuntu is debian?
[10:50] <ldr> jane1, no  but it uses debians packet management system
[10:51] <jane1> ldr why centos is considered a better server than ubuntu?
[10:52] <ldr> jane1, no idea maybe software more stable
[10:52] <ldr> jane1, debian is considered good cause the software is very well tested which means its relativly old of course
[10:52] <jane1> ldr whats your recomendation
[10:52] <jane1> for a server os.
[10:52] <ldr> jane1, if you dont want to got through the trouble of building your own linux use debian
[10:52] <jane1> ok
[10:53] <szal> jane1: what answer do you expect in #ubuntu? ;)
[10:53] <jane1> ldr szal  i mean amoungst ubuntu centos and fedora.      dont be ubuntu only coz you are in #ubuntu
[10:53] <ldr> Mark-sketching, how is it?
[10:53] <stephenthemartyr> can somone help me set up and reinstall
[10:54] <Mark-sketching> setkeycodes 6c 224 is the rotate key!
[10:54] <ldr> jane1, hey jane i recommended debian cause i dont think a server needs or should run the most recent packages
[10:54] <ldr> jane1, not ubuntu
[10:54] <szal> jane1: this is an Ubuntu support channel; comparison talk is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:54] <ldr> Mark-sketching, nice
[10:54] <jane1> ldr why not ubuntu. and which one then
[10:54] <ldr> Mark-sketching, sounds like x201 then try using the map of the x201 then
[10:54] <jane1> szal ok
[10:55] <Mark-sketching> ldr: the buttons aren't next to eachother, but short of knowing the codes for each key, I can live with that; both commands on the face of the tablet. Result! thanks.
[10:55] <ldr> jane1, use the debian stable release, why not ubuntu i already said ubuntu takes new software version way faster in the rpos than debian
[10:55] <ldr> Mark-sketching, i would still say try the x201 list and find the right buttons
[10:56] <ldr> Mark-sketching, which is 68 and 6c then
[10:56] <szal> ldr: you too, the *buntu-vs-whatever discussion in -offtopic, please
[10:56] <Mark-sketching> ldr: ok, will do. Thanks for your help :)
[10:56] <Mark-sketching> ldr: Is it possible to re-set the ones I changed before?
[10:56] <stephenthemartyr> i have a ubuntu help need?
[10:56] <ldr> szal, sorry didnt get your message
[10:56] <Mark-sketching> not actually knowing what or where they are...
[10:57] <AdvoWork> hi there, whats up with: du -csh * --max-depth=1 /  im trying to find out disk usage, but with max-depth
[10:57] <stephenthemartyr> i have ubuntustudio 10.04 and windows xp dual boot,how to i replace those?
[10:57] <jrib> AdvoWork: don't summarize?
[10:57] <ldr> Mark-sketching, i think a reboot should take care of this
[10:58] <ThinkT510> stephenthemartyr: replace in what way? wipe both off the harddrive?
[10:58] <ldr> Mark-sketching, which means you ave to run these commands every time you start your computer of course put it in something like rc.local
[10:58] <jrib> AdvoWork: and doesn't using * and / seem a bit strange to you?
[10:58] <ldr> Mark-sketching, so it runs everytime you boot the computer
[10:58] <Mark-sketching> ldr: aah right. Sudo gedit rc.local?
[10:59] <ldr> sudo gedit /etc/rc.local
[10:59] <theadmin> Mark-sketching: Don't run graphical apps with sudo.
[10:59] <iszak> So I have this ubuntu box that has a GUI, now all I have is SSH and I want to setup remote desktop via SSH so I can access the GUI, any guides?
[10:59] <theadmin> ldr: You too.
[10:59] <ThinkT510> !gksudo | Mark-sketching
[10:59] <ldr> theadmin, is right
[10:59] <wildbat> stephenthemartyr: just format and install ~ what you need?
[10:59] <jrib> AdvoWork: if you just want disk usage, use: df -h
[10:59] <Mark-sketching> theadmin: ThinkT510, aah thanks
[11:00] <jrib> !vnc | iszak
[11:00] <ldr> theadmin, i deinstalled sudo , nearly the first thing i did after installing ubuntu
[11:00] <Ristovski> hello If I use Live CD will something screw up?
[11:00] <ThinkT510> ldr: what? why?
[11:01] <Lasers> ldr: Just use aliases + turn off password using visudo.
[11:01] <Lasers> ldr: Or "sudo -i" and never log out.
[11:01] <theadmin> ldr: So you just use su?
[11:01] <ThinkT510> Ristovski: don't worry the livecd won't touch your harddrive unless you tell it to (by trying to install)
[11:01] <ldr> ldr, maybe just a matter of taste but i prefer su to normal root konsole
[11:02] <htpc> !FreeNX
[11:02] <Ristovski> ThinkT510 : can I install small version of ubuntu along with my Windows?
[11:02] <ThinkT510> Ristovski: sure
[11:02] <ThinkT510> !mini | Ristovski
[11:02] <Mark-sketching> ldr, so to sum up, if I make a file called rc.local and put the commands in there it'll run at startup?
[11:02] <Ristovski> wont it screw up?
[11:02] <ldr> Mark-sketching, no the file /etc/rc.local already exists
[11:03] <ThinkT510> Ristovski: why would it?
[11:03] <ldr> Mark-sketching, their you put the two commands in
[11:03] <ldr> rc.local runs intself at startup
[11:03] <DistroJockey> !wubi | Ristovski, ThinkT510
[11:03] <Ristovski> ThinkT50 : many ppl say that Linux and Windows dont like each other on same machine
[11:03] <Ristovski> thanks I dont like wubi
[11:03] <Ristovski> Its hard to uninstall¨
[11:03] <DistroJockey> np, me either
[11:03] <Mark-sketching> ldr: oh, so it does :)
[11:04] <ThinkT510> DistroJockey: i can't stand wubi and i wouldn't recommend it to others
[11:04] <wildbat> WUBI just suck ~
[11:04] <DistroJockey> ThinkT510: nods, just throwing it out there ;)
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> can a truecrypted folder be cracked/readed if you remove the pyshical harddrive?
[11:05] <ThinkT510> Ristovski: if you are nervous about it, you could always try installing in a vm (virtualbox)
[11:05] <Ristovski> ThinkT510 : ok So I download the iso burn it , put it in the cd rom , reboot and get in linux right? Now How do I connect to wifi?
[11:05] <ldr> Mark-sketching, you can use rc.local for a lot of stuff i use it for exmaple to rfkill bluetooth and wwan at every boot cause i didnt found a more elegant solution
[11:06] <subone> Running natty off usb drive boots to blank screen. Any help?
[11:06] <ThinkT510> Ristovski: there should be an applet (depending on what desktop environment you are in) that will let you choose the wireless network
[11:06] <Mark-sketching> ldr: I see, that is neat, thanks for the tip. I'm going to reboot and test.
[11:06] <glebihan> Mark-sketching, in order for the rc.local file to be executed, don't forget to make it executable
[11:06] <ldr> Mark-sketching, no need would be to write a upstart script for this stuff ;)
[11:07] <ldr> i mean neat would be....
[11:07] <ThinkT510> Ristovski: make sure to change the boot order in the bios so that it boots the cd before the harddrive too
[11:07] <Ristovski> I want to install in VM
[11:07] <Ristovski> Only if it is safe though
[11:07] <fmauro> lotuspsychje: no
[11:07] <ThinkT510> Ristovski: yeah, thats even easier
[11:07] <Ristovski> I dont wanna screw up my PC
[11:08] <Ristovski> ThinkT510 : Wont it lagg?
[11:08] <ThinkT510> Ristovski: installing it in a vm is perfectly safe
[11:08] <Ristovski> will it lagg?
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> fmauro: even when using the disk on external hd case or something?
[11:08] <Ristovski> Or like freeze?
[11:08] <ThinkT510> Ristovski: depends on your hardware and how you set up your vm
[11:08] <VxQe> Ristovski, not if your PC is modern.
[11:09] <Ristovski> well my PC specs are : 4gb RAm , Amd Athlon II m320 x64 , 500GB hdd
[11:09] <ThinkT510> Ristovski: that is plenty powerful enough
[11:09] <fmauro> lotuspsychje: if you created a truecrypt folder and secured it with a sufficiently secure password, haven't stored the password anywhere on the disk, it is virtually impossible to decrypt that folder. no matter where you open it
[11:10] <tryggvib> can anybody point me to a place where I can see why "lshw -C network" marks *-network:1 as DISABLED?
[11:10] <ThinkT510> Ristovski: you may need to check if the vm settings for your processor are activated in the bios though
[11:10] <Mark-sketching> ldr: in the file it says "# In order to enable or disable this script just change the execution bits" Do I need to change something to make it active?
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> fmauro: would the folder be visible on external hd case saying its content is unreadable?
[11:10] <Ristovski> I hate going in the BIOS
[11:10] <Ristovski> last time I was there I screwed my PC
[11:10] <DistroJockey> Ristovski: I give my Linux VM's 768MB of RAM and turn on 3D acceleration. They run fine on a 4GB RAM host.
[11:10] <DerekKey> Did you have a solution to mount USB disk secure with Windows 7 bitlocker partition?
[11:11] <DistroJockey> Ristovski: No need to go into BIOS
[11:11] <fmauro> lotuspsychje: it depends on how you created the truecrypt volume: did you make a partition, did you just create a truecrypt file?
[11:11] <ThinkT510> Ristovski: you might already have it activated anyway, but you won't be able to tell untill you run the vm
[11:11] <ldr> Mark-sketching, if you dont already yes
[11:11] <glebihan> Mark-sketching, as I told you, the file needs to be executable
[11:11] <ldr> Mark-sketching, make it executable chmod +x /etc/rc.local
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> fmauro: truecrypt partition
[11:12] <DistroJockey> Ristovski, ThinkT510: Ohh, yeah, those settings are nice :)
[11:12] <Mark-sketching> glebihan: Make it executable? Oo-er, it's not that by default? How?
[11:12] <ldr> Mark-sketching,  someone already metioned that so i thought you got it
[11:12] <jane1> any suggestions for a domain name that has music, education, videos, students , chating , bloging... video chats. text chats.. etc. multi purpose communication  .   ?
[11:12] <wildbat> DerekKey: BitLock is M$ properity technology ~ i doubt you will find linux version.
[11:12] <basncy> excuse me, where could i find the function which i used in Device Driver Programing like down_interruptible()?   As i know, if i want to get help of a function in application programing like select(), i just type "man select", then i could get the help.
[11:12] <Mark-sketching> ldr: glebihan aah thanks, great.
[11:12]  * Mark-sketching is a filthy newbie
[11:13] <DerekKey> I fount on net kernel module only for read-mode... :(
[11:13] <Ristovski> ok Ill do it
[11:13] <fmauro> lotuspsychje: I have never tried that, but my gut says that the OS would only see regular partitions until truecrypt is installed. (but I don't know for sure)
[11:14] <AdvoWork> jrib, how can i use max-depth then?
[11:14]  * jane1 ahem
[11:14] <ThinkT510> Ristovski: good, vms are great for practicing in :)
[11:14] <jrib> AdvoWork: du -h --max-depth=N DIRECTORY
[11:14] <subone> Ok now it is frozen at [    5.979275] Lite-On Technology Corp. USB Multimedia Keyboard] on usb-0000:00:02.0-4/input1   any help would be greatly appreciated
[11:14] <Ristovski> ok brb
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> fmauro: ok tnx for support mate, im already happy no known other software could break the encryption...
[11:15] <fmauro> lotuspsychje: np , glad to help
[11:15] <AdvoWork> jrib, thanks
I think so,there is a bad spot on the drive somewherte,and people on here kast night said to reinstall
[11:16] <boris> how to get work epson sx125 to scan , i can print but i cant scan
[11:17] <ThinkT510> stephenthemartyr: if it is a hardware fault a reinstall won't make a difference
[11:18] <stephenthemartyr> well i dont know what it is actuially
[11:18] <stephenthemartyr> but ive been having problems in ubuntustudio anyway
[11:18] <Strav> Hi. I'm trying to install linuxant hsf drivers but the .deb fails because of an error related to insserv (missing LSB tags and overrides). I have found the following bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/insserv/+bug/467000, and patched upstart-job accordingly but I still get the issue (on 11.04). Anyone knows about this bug on natty?
[11:18] <stephenthemartyr> cannot get jack working right with other stuff
[11:19] <Strav> (btw, compiling the driver manually also fails when it comes to hsf-config)
[11:20] <ThinkT510> stephenthemartyr: sorry, i'm not good at troubleshooting sound problems, perhaps somebody else here can help
[11:20] <Strav> ... a workaround would be appreciated too.
under disk utility it says disk has a few bad s3ectors under master boot record
[11:20] <tryggvib> with one wireless card, should I be seeing two interfaces (eth1 and wifi0)? Is that normal?
[11:21]  * Lion-O is back :)
[11:21] <stephenthemartyr> dont need troubleshooting,i need to replace my systems
[11:21] <ThinkT510> stephenthemartyr: yeah, it does sound like you need a new harddrive
no i dont think so
[11:22] <stephenthemartyr> its working right now
[11:22] <ThinkT510> stephenthemartyr: then you need to determine whether it is a hardware fault
[11:23] <stephenthemartyr> and unless your going to buy me one then positive positive pleasei
[11:23] <fedora_newb> Can anyone tell me how to change the channel while messing with aircrack on mac80211 driver? Keep getting mon0 is on channel -1, while it should be on 9.
[11:23] <stephenthemartyr> ok how?
[11:23] <szal> [12:57:30] <stephenthemartyr> i have ubuntustudio 10.04 and windows xp dual boot,how to i replace those? <- replace with what?
[11:23] <sbarcteam_> hi.
[11:24] <stephenthemartyr> tando studio
[11:24] <stephenthemartyr> tango
[11:24] <szal> whatever that is..
[11:24] <sbarcteam> hi.
[11:24] <stephenthemartyr> maybe windows again too
[11:24] <sbarcteam> I need to connect to a dozen sftp hosts several times a day.
[11:24] <fmauro> fedora_newb: i can help you
[11:24] <stephenthemartyr> look it up http://tangostudio.tuxfamily.org/en/tangostudio
[11:24] <sbarcteam> is there a graphical SFTP/SCP client with bookmarking ?
[11:25] <ldr> sbarcteam,  filezilla can do sftp afaik
[11:25] <jrib> sbarcteam: why not just use ~/.ssh/config to setup some nice, easy names for your hosts
[11:25] <fmauro> fedora_newb: this is a bug in compat-wireless. I have written a tutorial about how to patch it on my blog. http://www.admindojo.com/patching-fixed-channel-mon0-1-in-aircrack-ng-suite/
[11:25] <Strav> sbarcteam: and bookmarking
[11:25] <szal> stephenthemartyr: my guess is that that falls under 'derivative that is not supported here'
[11:25] <fedora_newb> Thanks fmaura. :)
[11:25] <ThinkT510> stephenthemartyr: if you want to replace it then i'm not sure why you've come to the #ubuntu channel
[11:25] <UbuntuGNULinux> sbarcteam: You can use nautilus
[11:26] <ldr> sbarcteam, yes it can do it jsut tested
[11:26] <stephenthemartyr> i dont know ok uh ubuntu stuidio again
[11:26] <jrib> sbarcteam: but to answer your question, you can use nautilus or gftp (not sure about bookmarking in gftp but my guess is yes)
[11:26] <stephenthemartyr> because its not working
[11:26] <stephenthemartyr> well
[11:26] <stephenthemartyr> the audio part
[11:27] <sbarcteam> jrib I want it to be able to remember passwords.
[11:27] <sbarcteam> ssh config does not (AFAIR) allow passwords.
[11:27] <ldr> sbarcteam, filezilla ...
[11:27] <jrib> sbarcteam: that's what ssh keys are for
[11:27] <sbarcteam> and if the passwords are remembered, I prefer it to be done with gnome keyring or some hash.
[11:27] <sbarcteam> jrib, for some reason our net admin don't allow ssh keys.
[11:29] <glebihan> sbarcteam, nautilus will user gnome keyring to save ssh passwords
[11:29] <harshada> http://dpaste.com/583482/ -- m getting pdftk error kindly advice...
[11:30] <jrib> sbarcteam: good luck with that then
[11:31] <fmauro> fedora_newb: the line offsets do no longer coincide with the ones in my tutorial but it should succeed patching anyhow.
[11:31] <sbarcteam> glebihan, I don't see I can group the sftp bookmarks into a folder. can you ?
[11:31] <stephenthemartyr> so how can i just reboot with a new ubuntu system?
[11:31] <stephenthemartyr> reinstall
[11:31] <stephenthemartyr> watevr u call it
[11:31] <sbarcteam> i.e. to have a folder-like for bookmarks named "dev servers", etc.
[11:31] <ThinkT510> !intall | stephenthemartyr
[11:32] <ThinkT510> !install | stephenthemartyr
[11:32] <szal> stephenthemartyr: 'reboot' and 'reinstall' are two totally different things
[11:32] <stephenthemartyr> nah i am getting such friendly advice from you guys
[11:32] <stephenthemartyr> i read all night still dont understand
[11:32] <harshada> http://dpaste.com/583482/ -- m getting pdftk error kindly advice...
[11:33] <szal> !repeat | harshada
[11:33] <stephenthemartyr> ok reinstall and make sure my hard drive isnt ruined
[11:33] <jrib> sbarcteam: you might check out "sshpass"
[11:35] <fmauro> harshada: can you provide the input files as well? this way I can see if it produces the error here as well
[11:35] <murlidhar> how can i auto mount partitions using a gui application ?
[11:36] <ThinkT510> murlidhar: best to add them to fstab
[11:36] <ThinkT510> !fstab | murlidhar
[11:36] <murlidhar> ThinkT510: isn't there an gui app to do it ?
[11:37] <ThinkT510> murlidhar: you can edit fstab with a text editor
[11:37] <ThinkT510> murlidhar: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:37] <murlidhar> ThinkT510: i was expecting a bit more :)
[11:38] <murlidhar> thnks though
[11:38] <ThinkT510> murlidhar: just make sure to know what you are doing by reading the documentation
[11:38] <PythonPup> exit
[11:38] <ThinkT510> murlidhar: no worries :)
[11:38] <OerHeks> ThinkT510, there is a graphical tool to edit fstab, called Pysdm
[11:39] <ThinkT510> OerHeks: i don't trust those types of tools
[11:40] <ThinkT510> !info pysdm
[11:40] <OerHeks> oh ? oke
[11:40] <ThinkT510> OerHeks: thanks for the info though
[11:44] <theadmin> I only trust one way to edit configs, the allmighty Vim.
[11:44] <MrPopinjay> I'm trying to make a java directory executable but every time I tick the box and click OK it just goes back to not being ticked. I also tried sudo chmod +x
[11:45] <MrPopinjay> What's going on here?
[11:45] <theadmin> MrPopinjay: Is it on a FAT/NTFS filesystem?
[11:45] <stephenthemartyr> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation thats very thorough but to someone like me its too much and I either dont know what I need nor do I have some things like usb thing
[11:45] <MrPopinjay> theadmin, Uh yes I think it might be. Is that a problem?
[11:45] <theadmin> MrPopinjay: Yes, it is, NTFS/FAT do not preserve UNIX permissions.
[11:46] <MrPopinjay> theadmin, Ok, thank you! :)
[11:46] <murlidhar> ThinkT510: how good is pysdm you think for automounting partitions ?
[11:47] <ThinkT510> murlidhar: never heard of it until today, but i wouldn't trust it
[11:47] <murlidhar> ThinkT510: well its in the official repos.
[11:47] <OerHeks> murlidhar, as good as the values you put into it, you still need a little knowledge of mounting.
[11:47] <ThinkT510> murlidhar: i'm more of a nano guy myself, very straightforward
[11:47] <G00053> this is the first rel stab I've taken at running linux, and things are going great. but i realize that as time goes by. i might be a bit dis-organized , have things in wrong places , have some stuff that could be deleted. any good reads ?
[11:48] <stephenthemartyr> ooh give him a bunch of links with a snotty attitude thatll bhelp
[11:48] <ThinkT510> murlidhar: there is nothing better than knowing what you are doing and an editor to do it in
[11:48] <ThinkT510> !attitude | stephenthemartyr
[11:48] <GodFather16> как взломать рамблер почтУ?
[11:48] <murlidhar> ThinkT510: :) yes but i don't want to mess my ubuntu setup
[11:48] <Pici> !ru | GodFather16
[11:48] <jelleruben> #ubuntu-nl
[11:49] <stephenthemartyr> just because you know how to do something and others dont does not p[ut u in some position asbove them
[11:49] <stephenthemartyr> but i do appreciate the help
[11:49] <stephenthemartyr> and the volunteers much
[11:50] <stephenthemartyr> i just dont learn well by myself and a bunch of text to read
[11:50] <ThinkT510> stephenthemartyr: if people are willing to learn how to do things instead of just following instructions then that is the best help you can give
[11:50] <GodFather16> how to hack em@il without brut?
[11:50]  * szal doesn't see stephenthemartyr's problem..  burn CD, pop in CD, install, have fun
[11:50] <theadmin> GodFather16: That's illegal, we can't support that.
[11:50] <stephenthemartyr> sometimes not all the time
[11:50] <bazhang> GodFather16, offtopic on this network
[11:50] <bazhang> GodFather16, dont ask again
[11:51] <stephenthemartyr> im a musician and a pretty damn good one,but i never l;earned computers im 31 and ive only had one of my own for like 2 years
[11:51] <stephenthemartyr> and i cant read all that text,its too much
[11:51] <stephenthemartyr> how bout checking my system make sure its not bropke
[11:51] <stephenthemartyr> got a link?
[11:52] <G00053> stephenthemartyr: http://www.apple.com
[11:52] <stephenthemartyr> im tryin the best i can im not lazy
[11:52] <bazhang> G00053, not helpful
[11:52] <ThinkT510> stephenthemartyr: like szal said: burn CD, pop in CD, install, have fun
[11:52] <stephenthemartyr> i dont care make fun,there is always thosw who have and those who dont,ive always been in latter,
[11:52] <dr_willis> was there a specific instalation issue?  I dident notice it mentioned.
[11:53] <stephenthemartyr> ok
[11:53] <Pici> On one line please.
[11:53] <dr_willis> guess it wasent much of an issue..
[11:54] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[11:54] <Stava> apt-get gives me "1 not fully installed or removed.", which is mysql-server. How can I completely remove mysql-server?
[11:55] <carandraug> Stava, aptitude purge mysql-server ?
[11:55] <jrib> Stava: you have no knowledge as to why it does this?
[11:55] <Stava> jrib, I interrupted the initial installation
[11:55] <jrib> Stava: pastebin what happens when you attempt to remove it
[11:56] <dr_willis> Stava:   the initial install of the mysql-server package you mean?
[11:56] <Stava> jrib, It tries to install mysql-server (from where i stopped it i assume), but then fails
[11:56] <harshada> fmauro, sorry i ll just send u d files
[11:56] <Stava> dr_willis, yes
[11:56] <jrib> Stava: please pastebin the full output (it's easier to refer to)
[11:56] <fedora_newb> fmauro, i followed your guide and still getting 'mon0 is on channel -1, but the AP uses channel 9'
[11:57] <Stava> jrib, dr_willis http://pastie.org/2303383
[11:57] <fmauro> fedora_newb: so the compilation and installation of the modules worked all without errors?
[11:58] <harshada> fmauro, did u received d files??
[11:58] <jrib> Stava: pastebin /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server*.postinst
[11:58] <fedora_newb> fmauro, that I know of
[11:58] <fmauro> harshada: no, you will have to post them somewhere for me to download. My client will not accept dcc
[11:59] <fedora_newb> should i go back through and try again?
[11:59] <fedora_newb> @famuro
[11:59] <harshada> fmauro, ok plz suggest me some sites..
[12:00] <mattia> ciao a tuti
[12:00] <obert> !it > mattia
[12:00] <pratz> mattia: what language is that ??
[12:01] <obert> pratz: .it
[12:01] <fmauro> fedora_newb: okay , yes I see the problem. it builds the modules for an older kernel. you have to adjust the file scripts/update-initramfs
[12:01] <obert> pratz: aka 'hello to all'
[12:01] <fedora_newb> Have no idea what you mean, fmauro?
[12:02] <fmauro> fedora_newb: find the line: KLIB=/lib/modules/2.6.31-wl/build and replace it with KLIB=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build
[12:02] <pratz> obert: it - italy ??
[12:02] <obert> pratz: sure
[12:02] <fmauro> fedora_newb: the file is in the compat_wireless folder you extracted, subfolder scripts
[12:02] <pratz> obert: you too aka
[12:02] <obert> pratz: me too aka??
[12:02] <pratz> obert: means hello to you
[12:03] <DistroJockey> can't even say hello here without being redirected it seems
[12:03] <obert> pratz: :)
[12:03] <fmauro> harshada: mediafire for example
[12:03] <obert> pratz: i was translating mattia's phrase :P
[12:04] <fedora_newb> fmauro, the line "KLIB=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build" is already there
[12:04] <fmauro> fedora_newb: can I pm you real quick?
[12:04] <fedora_newb> Sure.
[12:05] <Saik> hey all. I need some help in setting up apache andmysql, if anyone cn help with that
[12:06] <Pici> Saik: What part of the install/setup are you having difficulty with?
[12:06] <iceroot> Saik: just installing or special configuration-tasks?
[12:07] <harshada> fmauro, http://www.mediafire.com/?hlh9828f9aa4f9r
[12:07] <harshada> fmauro, http://www.mediafire.com/?5bcwkrpuyp2jdj6
[12:07] <harshada> pratz, http://www.mediafire.com/?5bcwkrpuyp2jdj6
[12:08] <harshada> pratz, http://www.mediafire.com/?hlh9828f9aa4f9r
[12:08] <fmauro> harshada: got 'em
[12:08] <theadmin> !enter | harshada
[12:10] <somethinginteres> Hi all, I have Japanese language support installed alongside English. Sometimes when I am typing the language swaps to Japanese
[12:10] <pratz> fmauro: hey i am harshada's friend , the pdftk is working fine on my machine , but not on her machine
[12:10] <fmauro> pratz harshada: I get the same error so far.
[12:10] <somethinginteres> I am wanting to work out how to change it back. There's no icon anywhere. Thanks
[12:10] <Saik> pici, iceroot : I cannot get it to allow a connection from my PC
[12:11] <fmauro> pratz harshada: so it's not just you harshada
[12:11] <Saik> pici, iceroot : someone told me I need to set up listens for 0.0.0.0  the machine's address is 10.0.0.51
[12:11] <ldr> somethinginteres, alt+alt or alt+shift lets you switch the layout on most systems
[12:12] <pratz> fmauro: harshada seems libgcj.so.11
[12:12] <ldr> somethinginteres, maybe that is what you accendentially doing when you are typing
[12:12] <pratz> fmauro: hey how do i check the version of libgcj on my machine ??
[12:12] <iceroot> Saik: who? mysql or apache?
[12:12] <somethinginteres> ldr: yeah, it probably is. thanks! I will try that next time it occurs.
[12:12] <iceroot> Saik: what is the ip of your server, with what ip you are trying to connect?
[12:12] <Saik> iceroot: both
[12:13] <Saik> iceroot: my server is on a VM, 10.0.0.51 and I'm trying to connect with the host machine
[12:13] <iceroot> Saik: can you ping the server?
[12:13] <somethinginteres> ldr: ok just tried it then. It did swap the language to Japanese but the same key combo wouldn't swap it back to English.
[12:13] <Saik> iceroot: the Ip on that pc is 192.168.129.1 ; yes, I can works fine
[12:13] <evanton> Is it possible to grab the sources of ubuntu one client and build it for further use on another Linux distribution? I'm trying to figure it out by browsing the official site without success
[12:14] <theadmin> evanton: Unfortunately not, it's only for Ubuntu.
[12:14] <theadmin> evanton: Try Dropbox.
[12:14] <bazhang> theadmin, thats not correct
[12:14] <iceroot> Saik: mysql cant connect by default from a remote-machine but apache can
[12:14] <bazhang> evanton, try #ubuntuone
[12:14] <evanton> theadmin: actually I've just got rid of dropbox and wuala and now I'm looking for alternatives :-)
[12:14] <theadmin> evanton: Ah.
[12:14] <Crash03> can some one tell me how to set my wlan usb adaptor to multicast please
[12:15] <Saik> iceroot: apache is refusing it too
[12:15] <theadmin> evanton: Spideroak?
[12:15] <iceroot> Saik: apache is up and running? can be reached from the server (lynx, w3m) but can not be reached from the host-system?
[12:15] <nsadmin> so I have run jockey-gtk (also note the existance of jockey-text) and it installed fglrx... after restartimg the machine, it no longer complained about the hardware not suitable for unity. then, it painted the background screen and... nothing
[12:15] <iceroot> Saik: apache is running on the ips which can be found in /etc/hosts
[12:15] <evanton> theadmin: it's even worse, I know a horror story about spideroak :)
[12:15] <pratz> fmauro: any clue dude
[12:15] <Saik> iceroot: restate the question please?
[12:15] <ldr> somethinginteres, hmm it should sec
[12:15] <pratz> ??
[12:15] <iceroot> Saik: if i am correct
[12:16] <Saik> iceroot: theyare set to 10.0.0.51
[12:16] <iceroot> Saik: can you reach the apache-server when sending a request from the server? e.g. with the cli browsers lynx and w3m
[12:16] <nsadmin> 10* is unroutable address
[12:17] <Saik> nsadmin: from lcalhost?
[12:17] <Crash03> can any one help me i dont know how to set my wlan to multicast may some one ofer advise please
[12:17] <Saik> iceroot: Error 102 (net::ERR_CONECTION_REFUSED): The server refused the connection.  <10.0.0.51 on my windows PC, which he VM ishosted on
[12:17] <ldr> somethinginteres, okay do the following go to system->preferences->kexyboard
[12:17] <ldr> somethinginteres, Layout Options
[12:17] <iceroot> nsadmin: why should 10.x.x.x be unroutable in a lan?
[12:17] <harshada> fmauro, any idea?
[12:17] <norro> hey guys. I try to do debugging of a running process on ubuntu natty using gdb. it always says "ptrace: operation not permitted". I already tried https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Roadmap/KernelHardening#ptrace_Protection but it doesn`t help. Any suggestions what to do?
[12:17] <ldr> somethinginteres, expand group shift lock behavior their you can define your own switch key or i think completly deactivate it
[12:18] <norro> the command I use is gdb --pid={PID}
[12:18] <jane1> Pici hi
[12:18] <Saik> iceroot: ca you give me a command?
[12:19] <iceroot> Saik: lynx localhost
[12:19] <iceroot> Saik: w3m localhost
[12:19] <iceroot> Saik: nmap -p 80 localhost
[12:19] <fmauro> harshada: the thing is, I get a NullPointerException concerning fdfread, yours is in NameFinder. they are not related. I'm gonna grab pdftk from source and see if it works there. are you sure these input parameters are correct?
[12:19] <Saik> iceroot: yes
[12:20] <Crash03> im new to ubuntu i neew help seting my multicasting on please
[12:20] <somethinginteres> ldr: OK I am in layout --> Options can't find "shift lock behaviour" group
[12:20] <ldr> one sec
[12:20] <somethinginteres> ldr: no problem
[12:20] <ldr> somethinginteres, Group shift?
[12:20] <nsadmin> if the server is on the same 10* net as the machine that's contacting it, that should work like any other, and, unless you make special arrangements on the edge device the server won't be available from outside on the wild n wooly net
[12:20] <Saik> iceroot: I fell really stupid asking this,but how do I exit w3m?
[12:20] <ldr> or something i didnt have the same system here actually
[12:21] <iceroot> Saik: q
[12:22] <Saik> iceroot: I don't have nmap installed
[12:22] <Crash03> hello may some one help me please
[12:22] <Saik> iceroot: is it on the server cd?
[12:22] <iceroot> Saik: no need. w3m was showing you the apache default site?
[12:22] <ldr> somethinginteres,  what desktop/ubuntu are you using?
[12:22] <iceroot> Saik: its in the repos
[12:22] <somethinginteres> ldr: Ubuntu 11.04 Unity 64 bit
[12:23] <Saik> iceroot: apache was showing me what SHOULD be 10.0.0.51/register  (the page that is set to index)
[12:23] <iceroot> Saik: fine
[12:23] <iceroot> Saik: can you run "nmap -p 80 server-address" from the hsot-system?
[12:23] <iceroot> Saik: you can install nmap with "sudo apt-get install nmap"
[12:23] <Saik> iceroot: sur, one sec
[12:23] <ldr> somethinginteres, maybe accesibility?
[12:24] <Crash03> can any one help me?
[12:24] <Polah> Crash03: Perhaps
[12:24] <Saik> iceroot: he host is windows
[12:24] <ldr> somethinginteres, got it choose your layout, and then lcik keyboard preferences
[12:24] <iceroot> Saik: .(
[12:24] <alex--> I want LAMP + FTP + Samba + Bittorent + a nice user interface + synchronisation + NAS features + some gameservers + synchronisation between some folders/files + backup-system. What do you suggest then, FreeNAS, Ubuntu or something else?
[12:24] <Crash03> polah im trying to set my multicasting for my wlan usb driver installed dev is showing
[12:25] <Saik> iceroot: it's a game server, game runs on windows
[12:25] <ldr> somethinginteres, then options and then their is a key to change layout option
[12:25] <iceroot> Saik: when you access the linux-system from the windows-system, is there something in /var/log/apache2/error.log or /var/log/apache2/access.log?
[12:25] <nsadmin> alex--: something you're very familiar with
[12:25] <jpds> dnp: The mini.iso is probably not want you want.
[12:25] <Saik> iceroot: lemme check
[12:25] <nsadmin> so that you can do the work necessary to get what you want
[12:26] <somethinginteres> ldr: hmm I just can't seem to find it. I'll see if I can do a screenshot
[12:26] <alex--> nsadmin: none of them
[12:26] <nsadmin> then something else
[12:26] <jpds> dnp: Download the server CD: http://gb.releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ and when it loads press 'F4' and select 'install minimum virtual environment'.
[12:26] <KrisDouglas> Ubuntu is a good start, freenas is almost entirely just used for sharing files
[12:27] <Saik> iceroot: I thinl those logs are stored elsewhere on my server, those are both "new file"
[12:27] <nsadmin> but if that's the case and you choose to use one of them, you'll have things to learn and read up on
[12:27] <go8765432> hello. can anybody help me wit znc  ? I have it runing on freeshell, but i can join to it with my client :( help me please
[12:27] <jpds> dnp: The mini.iso will probably install the full desktop environment.
[12:27] <iceroot> Saik: the server is ubuntu? and you are using apache2?
[12:27] <Dynetrax> I've got a question about using Lynx (Command line browser) in ubuntu 11.04 server can anyone tell me why when i try to download .rar files it renames them to rar.gz???
[12:28] <somethinginteres> ldr: found it selected Alt + Shift didn't seem to make a difference, I've exited the app and will try again
[12:28] <alex--> nsadmin: Which things of my list can Ubuntu do?
[12:28] <KrisDouglas> Dynetrax, Just a theory, but perhaps the server is providing content with gzip compression? I may be completely wrong, but that is a possibility, and lynx isnt detecting this
[12:28] <Crash03> you still with me pola
[12:29] <nsadmin> all of them
[12:29] <KrisDouglas> alex--, all of the above really.
[12:29] <nsadmin> but so can all of the others
[12:29] <norro> Hey guys. I try to debug a running process with gdb on ubuntu natty. It keeps telling me "ptrace: operation not permitted". I already tried to remove the kernel ptrace protection (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Roadmap/KernelHardening#ptrace_Protection) but it doesn`t work. Thanks in advance for any ideas or suggestions.
[12:29] <alex--> nsadmin: the others?
[12:29] <Dynetrax> KrisDouglas, the file is hosted on my ubuntu one account have you heard of any complications with certain filetypes on ubuntu ones free websapce?
[12:30] <Saik> iceroot: yes
[12:30] <nsadmin> all the other operating systems you mentioned can meet most of your requirements; the remainder you haven't specified exactly
[12:30] <Saik> iceroot: it came with a "setup.sh"
[12:30] <iceroot> Saik: wrong way to install software on debian-based systems like ubuntu
[12:30] <iceroot> !repo | Saik
[12:30] <Saik> iceroot: let me look around a littlebit, I have an idea where those logs are
[12:31] <iceroot> Saik: please dont download software from websites and run install-scripts. always use the repos (with apt-get install)
[12:31] <nsadmin> there's not a wrong way... but there are ways he can get support for and ways he can't
[12:31] <babu> how to connect remote database in mysql
[12:31] <go8765432> cam anybody help me winth znc &
[12:31] <Saik> iceroot: well.. yea.. bit ti was SUPPOSED to be noob-frendly lol
[12:31] <Polah> babu: Do you already have mysql-server set up and running?
[12:31] <iceroot> Saik: have a look at the links ubottu mentioned
[12:32] <Crash03> polah any ideas
[12:32] <babu> yes
[12:32] <Polah> Crash03: No, sorry.
[12:32] <Polah> babu: By remote you mean connecting from your computer to a MySQL server running on another system, yes?
[12:32] <Crash03> iceroot can you tell me how to set my wlan usb to multicast pls
[12:32] <babu> yes
[12:32] <Saik> iceroot: I founda bunch of logs in/opt/apache-tomcat-5.5.28/logs
[12:33] <pratz> fmauro: any success dude, even i am trying but no solution yet ??
[12:33] <iceroot> Saik: you know that tomcat is not apache2?
[12:33] <iceroot> Saik: what you do want? apache2 or tomcat?
[12:33] <nsadmin> if you choose to install things yourself, then (a) you get to answer all your own questions about it, and (b) there is a small chance that something you install that way could interfere/overwrite something that ubuntu packaging thinks it owns
[12:33] <nsadmin> (it doesn't own it, you do if you own the machine)
[12:34] <go8765432> how i can join my irc-client to my znc that running on freeshell...?
[12:34] <Saik> iceroot: I am going to assume tomcat then
[12:34] <Crash03> CAN ANY ONE PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO SET MY WLAN TO MULTICAST OR WHERE TO START MY SEARCH FOR INFO PLEASE
[12:34] <iceroot> Saik: ok
[12:34] <Saik> iceroot: I was told it was apache. sorry
[12:34] <th0r> Crash03: lose the caps
[12:34] <jpds> !caps | Crash03
[12:34] <iceroot> Saik: but please remove your tomcat installation and use apt-get to install tomcat
[12:34] <iceroot> Saik: its called "apache tomcat"
[12:35] <iceroot> Saik: which is different to "apache2 webserver"
[12:35] <Crash03> i didnt mean to im 600lbs i have big figers  and lok at keyboard
[12:35] <Saik> iceroot: I do not have internet access on that VM, just local stuff
[12:35] <iceroot> Saik: tomcat is for strange java-things and so on. apache2 is for normal websites with php and so on
[12:35] <nsadmin> if you're 600lbs you better get some exercise :P
[12:35] <evanton> !ban Crash03 trolling :>
[12:35] <TheBig0ne> need help about install ubuntu ... but I have some hardware problem
[12:35] <Saik> iceroot: this has lots of java things, I've been throgh the dirs
[12:35] <Crash03> whats trolling
[12:36] <TheBig0ne> first of all I was tyring to install windows and I have 3 partition disks
[12:36] <iceroot> Saik: have a look at apache.org about tomcat and apache2 and then make your choose what you need. i guess you dont need tomcat
[12:36] <TheBig0ne> after formating of the disks... the formating stop in 100%
[12:36] <TheBig0ne> then I restart my pc .. and now 2 of the disks are hidden
[12:36] <fmauro> pratz: still on it
[12:36] <ThinkT510> TheBig0ne: 3 partitions or 3 disks?
[12:36] <TheBig0ne> 3 disks
[12:36] <Saik> iceroot: everything is se up to use tomcat
[12:37] <Crash03> fuck you you fat natsy basterds im 75 lbs and im 16 kiss my asss you prick
[12:37] <TheBig0ne> so now there is only 1 disk with 1500 MB / MBR /
[12:37] <Crash03> s
[12:37] <pratz> fmauro: does the gcc version matter here ??
[12:37] <TheBig0ne> If I want to install Ubuntu.. how I can do it ?
[12:37] <Dynetrax> lol wow
[12:37] <ThinkT510> !install | TheBig0ne
[12:37] <theadmin> loool
[12:37] <krux> kidss
[12:37] <theadmin> That was hilarious just now
[12:37] <Dynetrax> that was interesting
[12:37] <TheBig0ne> ThinkT510 but How I`ll isntall it .. after there is no space for installing ?
[12:38] <raven> 10.04 + tb7300 digitize tablet: pen freezes every tap. different driver available?
[12:38] <Incarus6> Come on, know he doesn't know that he needs a multicast-capable router
[12:38] <fmauro> pratz: no but the version of the dependant libs
[12:38] <ThinkT510> TheBig0ne: you make space by partitioning
[12:38] <ThinkT510> !partition | TheBig0ne
[12:38] <Polah> babu: You can install mysql-client and use "mysql -h < host> -u <user> -p" and then enter your password when prompted to connect. However, I'm not sure if that's a secure connection so I'd recommend connecting via SSH and then doing "mysql -u <user> -p" on that machine. Unless someone can confirm whether or not it is secure.
[12:38] <TheBig0ne> th0r it is impossible .. there no free space for creating a new disk
[12:38] <TheBig0ne> ThinkT510*
[12:38] <theadmin> Hamsters.
[12:38] <pratz> fmauro: but how can we find what dependecy version is giving the error ??
[12:39] <ThinkT510> TheBig0ne: read the link ubottu gave you, you make space by repartitioning
[12:39] <Saik> iceroot: and all of those logs are empty
[12:40] <mujun> hi all
[12:40] <mujun> i have some troubles while using dynagen
[12:40] <mujun> while starting ,error :errors during loading of the topology file, please correct them
[12:40] <mujun> and waring:  Could not connect to dynamips server localhost
[12:40] <mujun> how should i do to solve the problem
[12:40] <TheBig0ne> ThinkT510: this information can`t help me ..
[12:40] <fmauro> pratz: no idea. I'll just compile it. gimme a sec.
[12:41] <ThinkT510> TheBig0ne: why?
[12:41] <TheBig0ne> I've explained why.. cuz first I was installing windows.. no there no space for installing whatever operation system
[12:41] <TheBig0ne> and in that information there is only general things which I know
[12:42] <ThinkT510> TheBig0ne: i don't think you understand what partitioning is, you need to understand
[12:42] <pratz> fmauro: i frist tried compiling with source, but got an error, i can not remember the error now. but then i used apt-get to isntall it and it is running successfully
[12:42] <aetas> if he runs out of space he can still use wubi
[12:42] <Incarus6> TheBigOne, you can use the remaining free space of the windows partition for a new linux partition
[12:42] <pratz> fmauro: might be a different case with your machine
[12:42] <nsadmin> TheBig0ne, so you can't install linux because you have no space for it?
[12:42] <TheBig0ne> Incarus6 but you don`t understand me. The only 1 disk which is now it is only with 1600 mb
[12:42] <TheBig0ne> nsadmin I had space before I was trying to reinstall windows
[12:42] <TheBig0ne> now 2 of the disks are hidden
[12:42] <fmauro> pratz: are you running 32 or 64 bit?
[12:43] <TheBig0ne> only 1 I can see.. and it isn`t all the space of my hd
[12:43] <pratz> fmauro: 32 bit
[12:43] <fmauro> harshada: and you? 32 or 64 bit?
[12:43] <harshada> fmauro, 32 bit
[12:44] <ldr> TheBig0ne, what about unhiding the partitions with parted or something? just a guess without really reading anything
[12:44] <fmauro> pratz harshada: so am I
[12:44] <Incarus6> TheBig0ne, you are in Windows currently and using the windows partition tool, correct?
[12:44] <pratz> fmauro: but i have 10.04 and harshada has 11.04  ubuntu
[12:44] <TheBig0ne> yes
[12:45] <TheBig0ne> it is correct... so many people told me to move into Ubuntu
[12:45] <bazhang> TheBig0ne, you're trying to install ubuntu ?
[12:45] <fmauro> pratz: 10.04 here, it's still compiling. I'll let you know when it's done
[12:45] <TheBig0ne> yes.
[12:45] <Incarus6> TheBigOne, Windows doesn't recognize linux partition - try to open the disk with a software which is more compatible
[12:45] <pratz> fmauro: k, dude
[12:46] <iceroot> Saik: please install tomcat from the repos instead of a setup.sh
[12:46] <Incarus6> bazhang, he is. I think he is trying to say that he was running out of space after he tried to install ubuntu and the built-in partiton software in windows doesn't show the linux partitions
[12:47] <Saik> iceroot: then I would have to resetup everything, from scratch, which I have NO CLUE how to do
[12:47] <Dynetrax> Thebigone look for a windows program called Ext2Read if you need to access linux partitions from a windows environment
[12:48] <Polah> Saik: That's why we're here (:
[12:48] <iceroot> Saik: and i dont have a clue about the configs which the setup.sh installation is generating
[12:48] <ubuntu_user> I have a question about wireless support in Ubuntu.
[12:48] <fmauro> pratz harshada__: okay the compiled pdftk produces yet another error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/656377/
[12:49] <Incarus6> TheBig0ne, have you allready installed ubuntu succesfull one time but you couldn't access it doring reboot?
[12:49] <BluesKaj> Dynetrax, does ext2read actually work ? Never had much luck with it.
[12:49] <Dynetrax> always works for me as long as i run as admin
[12:50] <dr_willis> BluesKaj,  ive had those tools work with mixxed success.. and often some data loss..  :)
[12:50] <Dynetrax> theres also Ext2fsd
[12:50] <Saik> iceroot: well,  have a idea of where it's being sent
[12:50] <iceroot> Saik: use a portscanner on windows and try to reach the tomcat port, if that is working, its a tomcat issue, its not its a network-issue
[12:50] <go8765432> can anybody help me to join my irc-client to my znc please ?
[12:50] <krux> he is long gone
[12:51] <pratz> fmauro: even i had similar kind of error, but when i tried with apt-get it was successfully installed
[12:51] <iceroot> go8765432: #your-irc-client +znc
[12:51] <Saik> iceroot: could I juat ping with a port?
[12:51] <iceroot> Saik: no
[12:51] <fmauro> I have both. I have the regular install and the compiled one, the regular install produces a NullPointerException and the compiled one a ClassCastException
[12:51] <BluesKaj> well, as admin , of course , but  no problems Dynetrax ...I would add a caveat to that recommendation next time as dr_willis noted.
[12:52] <nsadmin> ping is actually ICMP echo
[12:52] <dr_willis> go8765432,  you run znc and connect to the 'localhost' server at the port you defined in the znc config.
[12:52] <go8765432> iceroot, you say that i go to channel of my client or znc - right ?
[12:52] <raven> 10.04 + tb7300 digitize tablet: pen freezes every tap. different driver available?
[12:52] <fmauro> pratz: are you using the same files and parameters as I am?
[12:52] <nsadmin> ICMP doesn't have ports
[12:52] <ubuntu_user> I need help on getting the Netgear WNA1000 to work in Ubuntu 11.04
[12:52] <iceroot> go8765432: correct
[12:52] <Saik> iceroot: I know those pots (that I need) work, because this is a diferent variation of the same server I wasrunningearlier
[12:52] <iceroot> go8765432: doesnt sound like an ubuntu-issue
[12:52] <pratz> fmauro: what do you mean by files and parameters here ??
[12:53] <Cust0m> hi
[12:53] <Saik> iceroot: rather.. i's an updated version that hey wanted installed from scratch. (theholenot-upgradabe thing)
[12:53] <iceroot> Saik: so general you can access the system from "outside"?
[12:53] <Cust0m> ist jemand da der sich mit dem netzwerk auskennt ?
[12:53] <Pici> !de | Cust0m
[12:53] <iceroot> !de | Cust0m
[12:53] <dr_willis> go8765432,  the znc docs/faq often tell you how to configure specific clients.
[12:53] <Saik> iceroot: I can access the ports inwindes for sure
[12:53] <ubuntu_user> I can connect but I cannot download or access any webpages
[12:54] <go8765432> iceroot, ok. english not my native and so asked to make shure :)
[12:54] <iceroot> Saik: ok, then tomcat is not listening on the public-ip
[12:54] <iceroot> Saik: just on the lo-device as it seems
[12:54] <Saik> iceroot: rght, how do I fix that?
[12:54] <Saik> the server.xml?
[12:54] <iceroot> Saik:  i would suggest to have a look at #tomcat to setup tomcat to listen on eth0 instead of lo
[12:55] <go8765432> dr_willis, port that i show in config - whin i skan it - say that is close... so i cant join on this port...
[12:55] <dr_willis> go8765432,  hes saying see the #ZNC channel and/or your IRC clients support channel..  its always a good idea  to check their docs also.
[12:55] <dr_willis> go8765432,  you are connecting to localhost and some port# ?
[12:55] <Saik> iceroot: you mea ask in thechannel?
[12:55] <iceroot> Saik: correct
[12:56] <Saik> iceroot: will do
[12:56] <nsadmin> I'd also suggest reading the tomcat docs
[12:56] <babu> can't able to access mysql -h < host> -u <user> -p
[12:56] <dnp> jpds: please check #Ubuntu+1
[12:56] <jane1> what is the ram and proccesor requirments for ubuntu
[12:57] <dnp> jpds: i was able to set it with Natty mini.iso........mini.iso cmd line install + xorg + kde in a vm on vista
[12:57] <go8765432> dr_willis, not localhost. znc is on freeshell, so i conneck to freshell adress and port from znc config. and i shan on web-port-scanner znc port on free shell adress and it say that port is close...
[12:57] <bazhang> !requirements > jane1
[12:57] <dr_willis> go8765432,  then you need touse a port that the firewall is not blocking i guess. I only run znc on my local machine.
[12:57] <evanton> !requirements > evanton
[12:57] <nsadmin> I'd say 500mb ram and at least a 686
[12:58] <nsadmin> that's more for a server that doesn't have to do display
[12:59] <babu> can't able to access mysql -h < host> -u <user> -p
[12:59] <babu> wat to do
[12:59] <szal> babu: firstly, produce a meaningful error message
[12:59] <Saik> iceroot: I appriciate the help. this server just wants to be annoying to me lol
[13:00] <go8765432> dr_willis, how i can do this ?
[13:00] <Polah> babu: What's it giving you as an error?
[13:00] <babu> szal, when i typed mysql -h < host> -u <user> -p,it shows the error Can't connect to MySQL server on '172.24.100.129' (111)
[13:02] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, what's the purpose of running znc on your local machine ? I thought znc was meant to run as a server for irc clients on a network
[13:02] <Incarus6> babu, try --password[=password] instead of -p
[13:02] <go8765432> BluesKaj, :) i go the same at first :)
[13:03] <babu> Incarus6, same error
[13:03] <go8765432> *dp
[13:04] <krux> znc is a bouncer
[13:04] <go8765432> krux, so?
[13:04] <yashi-_> anyone here playing heroes of newerth?
[13:05] <BluesKaj> go8765432, is this for workstations ?
[13:05] <fmauro> pratz: the files are those from mediafire right? what exactly are you typing in terminal to run pdftk
[13:05] <krux> so he googles it up.. and find out what znc is and does...
[13:05] <go8765432> BluesKaj, freeshell :)
[13:06] <go8765432> BluesKaj, if i right udertand your question.... O_O
[13:07] <Incarus6> babu, seems to be a mysql server configuration issue (error code 111)
[13:07] <go8765432> *undestand
[13:07] <dr_willis> Silly IRC hung up on me.
[13:08] <yashi-_> anyone here using heroes of newerth with linux?
[13:08] <babu> Incarus6, but when i logonto remote sys using ssh, i can able to access,
[13:09] <dr_willis> yashi-_,  just saw it mentioned at --->>    DotA Clone ‘Heroes of Newerth’ Now Free To Play  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=18242
[13:09] <go8765432> BluesKaj, i asked right on your question ?
[13:09] <evanton> babu: your mysql daemon may be listening only locally
[13:10] <babu> evanton, how to change it
[13:10] <evanton> see how it's launched
[13:10] <allu2> anyone need help?
[13:10] <BluesKaj> go8765432, your answer is understood
[13:10] <iceroot> Saik: :)
[13:11] <amine> hi all
[13:11] <evanton> babu: the behavior of a daemon is controlled by boot scripts that launch it at startup and by its own config files
[13:11] <go8765432> BluesKaj, so whot i need to do now ?
[13:12] <Tipp_> hello. I got a intel gma945 chipset in my machine, but its clock is only 33Mhz. how can I increase it?
[13:12] <go8765432> *what
[13:12] <cownose> ngak
[13:12] <cownose> ok there it is
[13:13] <BluesKaj> go8765432, I have an idea how freeshell works , thanks
[13:13] <amine> waw nerds here
[13:13] <cownose> who?
[13:14] <amine> i'm a new user waht's the best documentation of ubuntu
[13:14] <yashi-_> anyone here using heroes of newerth with linux? ive got a scroll problem :/
[13:14] <cownose> i need someone who experiments with wifi mesh
[13:14] <bazhang> !manual > amine
[13:14] <go8765432> BluesKaj, thanks. try to asked in znc channel :)
[13:14] <bazhang> !wiki | amine
[13:15] <Incarus6> dr_willis, nice, an 500mb sh file
[13:15] <_raven> 10.04 + tb7300 digitize tablet: pen freezes every tap. different driver available?
[13:15] <Saik> iceroot: check your pms
[13:15] <cownose> hehehehe
[13:15] <iceroot> Saik: blocked for freenode
[13:16] <evanton> amine: would you accept an excentric answer to your question?
[13:16] <Saik> iceroot: figures.. lol
[13:16] <Saik> iceroot: notice work? lol
[13:16] <hx_> Hello, I've got an Asus P53E and I installed Ubuntu 11.04, the problem i have is that my touchpad is recognized as a "PS/2 Logitech Wheel Mouse" and therefore the multitouch functionality doesn't work. I found out that this is could be a bug in the Kernel, so I installed the newest one (3.0 rc7) but still the problem is the same.. Is there a patch for this issue?
[13:17] <WarOp> Having problem with Ubuntu 10.10, I have 10.10 & 8.10 Installed on one machine, the 8.10 system runs fine for days with no problems, 10.10 seems to freeze if left on overnight, but doesnt do it all the time, 10.10 has more services running like ssh server and things like that. so would it just be that with my old computer system then it's freezing, or is there a bug in 10.10 that needs a update
[13:17] <share> guise
[13:17] <dr_willis> Incarus6,  rather small for a game these days,,
[13:18] <Incarus6> dr_willis, yeah, because most games includes textures, music and things like that, but it is just one SH file :D
[13:18] <somethinginteres> is there something I can do to make swapping to a second instance or open window of a program easier? ATM on 11.04 Unity I have to click the icon and be present with an expose style overview of my workspaces/windows and select the one I'm after. Any way to make this more fluid?
[13:18] <yashi-_> anyone here using heroes of newerth with linux? ive got a scrolling problem :/
[13:18] <cownose> waaaaaaaaaaa
[13:19] <cownose> HON kewl
[13:19] <bazhang> cownose, stop that
[13:19] <cownose> ok
[13:19] <qin> Incarus6: head -n 200 your_bigge_sh file, also file file.sh may help
[13:20] <WarOp> So has anyone else had a problem with 10.10 freezing, or having screen go black and not being able to recover from it
[13:20] <Incarus6> qin, ehm, thank you. Download finished in 30 minutes ;)
[13:21] <dr_willis> yashi-_,  perhaps check their support forums and stuff?
[13:21] <qin> Incarus6: So run read, since it do not have impact on file or download.
[13:21] <qin> *head
[13:24] <Mario_Blatter> hello?
[13:24] <share> yes
[13:25] <Mario_Blatter> oh hi its first tim for me using IRC.
[13:25] <yashi-_> dr_willis: ya im trying to get an answer from them too ofc. but not much luck so far :/.I thought a few hon player are running around here
[13:25] <Incarus6> qin, seems to be some kind of binary file after line 19. It would be pointless to paste 400 lines of ""
[13:26] <wols> Mario_Blatter: my condolences. do you have a ubuntu related problem?
[13:28] <Mario_Blatter> sry no. I looking for a physic channal. I was on #physic. but nobody talked to me then I tryed here to ask some questions about IRC or is There a special channel for it?
[13:28] <bazhang> Mario_Blatter, #freenode
[13:28] <evanton> Mario_Blatter: probably you may try #help
[13:29] <evanton> if you use a free IRC client and have questions about the client, it may have its own channel here on freenode
[13:29] <Pici> ~/wii Mario_Blatter
[13:29] <Pici> oops
[13:29] <dr_willis> Mario_Blatter,  theres always -->  http://physics.stackexchange.com/
[13:30] <ghostnik11> hi, does anyone else have a problem with opening docx files in libre office and seeing some of the paragraphs discombobulated
[13:30] <Saik> iceroot: and it'squite as a curchmouse in there lol
[13:30] <ghostnik11> or is it just me
[13:30] <share> 20gb for full encrypted ubuntu is enough?
[13:30] <ThinkT510> ghostnik11: i wouldn't be suprised, docx is a closed standard
[13:31] <wols> !alis | Mario_Blatter
[13:31] <Mario_Blatter> ah ok thank you. then bb
[13:31] <ThinkT510> share: sure, thats plenty, unless you plan on installing big things like a few vms
[13:31] <share> oh yea ThinkT510 i forgot about that
[13:32] <share> im thinking of 250mb for uncrypted boot, 8gb root, left for home
[13:32] <share> unencrypted*
[13:32] <ThinkT510> sounds fine to me
[13:32] <share> and dunno about swap.. i have 4gb
[13:33] <share> what should I use
[13:33] <share> i dont use hibernate
[13:33] <pratz> fmauro: hey dude are you there ?? really sorry was away from my desk
[13:33] <ThinkT510> if you want to be able to hibernate/suspend it is recommended to have about 1.5 times size of ram
[13:33] <evanton> share: 8 GB root may be not enough if you install some big packages
[13:34] <evanton> some IDEs are reasonably big, some games as well
[13:34] <evanton> also big databases like dictionaries etc
[13:34] <ghostnik11> thinkt510: are you serious? thats some load of bull**** stupid *** microcrap is pulling, I am trying to use libre office which opens up the docx file but its discombobulated and paragraphs don't look like paragraphs should as there are spacing and line errors, and its b/c micro crap file format of docx isn't complying
[13:34] <wols> share: then I'd skip swap altogether. if you really need swap once in a while you can create a swapfile on the fly
[13:34] <share> evanton: im using 5gb right now
[13:35] <WarOp> Does anyone know how to edit /etc/apt/source.list to where it will ignore gpg key
[13:35] <WarOp> I found it once but cant remember how to do it
[13:35] <share> wols: what happens if I exceed 4gb of ram and dont have swap
[13:35] <share> freeze?
[13:36] <ThinkT510> ghostnik11: calm down, docx is incredibly difficult to implement, even microsoft isn't in compliance with it
[13:36] <ThinkT510> ghostnik11: if you can, stick to better document formats
[13:36] <share> evanton: no, I dont use that stuff only small programs and stuff
[13:36] <yashi-_> anyone here using heroes of newerth with linux? ive got a scrolling issue
[13:36] <fmauro> pratz: I am here.
[13:37] <sipior> wols: you want swap to hold unallocated memory reservations, else you will be wasting ram. sparing €0.10/GB hard drive space for €20/GB RAM is a false economy, to put it mildly.
[13:37] <share> sipior: im gonna use 1gb for swap
[13:37] <sw0rdfish> hey is there a way to limit directories to certain sizes?
[13:37] <Incarus6> yashi-_, wait 10 minutes ;)
[13:38] <sw0rdfish> like /home/sw0rdfish and /home/user2 EACH to be limit say to 100GB?
[13:38] <dr_willis> Incarus6,  it wouldent run for me on 11.10 :() heh.
[13:38] <wols> sipior: what is unallocated memory reservations? I know allocated and I know committed
[13:38] <dr_willis> but its my bed time. Night all.
[13:38] <share> bye
[13:39] <evanton> sw0rdfish: I know an ugly hack, but I wouldn't dare to seriously suggest it. filesystem inside a file container of given size, mount to certain directory
[13:39] <wols> share: OOM killer (out of memory killer) hits. basically the process trying to allocate more memory gets forcibly terminated
[13:40] <sipior> wols: memory allocations made by processes at initialisation. the reservation is typically quite a bit larger than what the process expects to allocate, and so you get sections of RAM which can't be recycled (they are still reserved), but aren't being used by the process that requested them.
[13:40] <sw0rdfish> hmmmm I see, its a openvz ubuntu 10.04 VPS....don't think it might work
[13:40] <share> wols: i'll just use 1gb just in case
[13:40] <sipior> wols: linux memory allocation is fairly aggressive :-)
[13:41] <wols> sipior: makes no sense. there is no need to put anything on disk (which means writing which is slow) when a page is not dirty
[13:41] <pratz> fmauro: do you know python ??
[13:41] <wols> sipior: and if you don't put it on disk then there is no need for the swap
[13:41] <ghostnik11> thinkt510: its not me, its a bunch of text files someone sent me for studying tips and practice exams for a exam i will be taking in september and i am just appalled that microsoft docx file standard is the reason why the text files come up the way they do, from what you say its not libre office's fault its microsofts fault, so libre office does its job and microsoft doesn't b/c they want to be difficult
[13:41] <sipior> wols: if you have swap, those reservations are swapped directly. there's no performance hit, because nothing is actually being written to disk. the reservations do need to exist.
[13:41] <gulzar> ?
[13:41] <share> how much space for boot?
[13:41] <evanton> sw0rdfish: basically, having hard limits like that gives you white hair as soon as you hit the limit. An alternative is just to watch for data growth, set some notification triggers so you could deal with the problem when it appears
[13:42] <pratz> fmauro: this is what i do in my code http://paste.ubuntu.com/656396/
[13:42] <sw0rdfish> nice
[13:42] <wols> sipior: basically, if I malloc 2GB then the kernel should do some bookeeping but shouldn't give me a single byte. only when I calloc 2GB (or otherwise wirte to my allocated pages), only then it should matter for the VM and swap
[13:42] <sw0rdfish> evanton, yeah a notification trigger sounds good
[13:42] <hendrickjoseph> Quelqun parle francais ici ?
[13:42] <share> 250mb for boot is enough?
[13:43] <sw0rdfish> hendrickjoseph, there probably is #ubuntu-fr (just guessing)
[13:43] <share> eh
[13:43] <share> uses a lot less
[13:43] <ThinkT510> ghostnik11: that way microsoft can "persuade" you to use a "proper" office suite that costs a lot, but this is getting offtopic
[13:43] <Pici> !fr | hendrickjoseph
[13:43] <evanton> sw0rdfish: if you manage hundreds of servers, prepare yourself to get tons of notifications. that's not good as well :-)
[13:43] <ThinkT510> ghostnik11: you can always try looking for a libreoffice channel
[13:43] <hendrickjoseph> think
[13:43] <sw0rdfish> evanton, I'm actually just trying to share my own vps with a friend
[13:43] <share> "If you are tight on disk space, you can go as low as 50 BM, but keep in mind that disk usage on /boot will grow with each upgrade." distro upgrade?
[13:43] <sw0rdfish> nothing else
[13:44] <lardman> Hi, I've just upgraded to Natty and seem to have some sort of Multi-arch dependency loop, any suggestions?: http://pastebin.com/P5bv0xdX
[13:44] <evanton> sw0rdfish: a RL friend? do you have physical access to your friend?
[13:44] <fmauro> pratz: yes I got it. but are we using the same files?. harshada__ provided some over mediafire . and i get exceptions using your syntax
[13:45] <sw0rdfish> evanton, lol, no does that matter? ....online friend
[13:46] <evanton> sw0rdfish: it matters just like physical access to computers matter a lot, as in "watch for the size yourself, if you hit the quota, I'll beat you with the n00b stick"
[13:46] <Incarus6> lardman, remove scratchbox-libs:i386 1.0.16
[13:46] <share> why do I need 200mb for /boot  if it only uses 21mb
[13:46] <sw0rdfish> evanton, hahaha....yeah nice one
[13:46] <lardman> Incarus6: how does one do that though?
[13:46] <sw0rdfish> oh well its not that much of a big deal
[13:46] <sw0rdfish> :)
[13:46] <evanton> sw0rdfish: see, you're trying to find a technical solution for a purely social issue :D
[13:47] <szal> share: why do you need a separate /boot partition anyway?
[13:47] <Incarus6> lardman, wait, it said it isn't installed. Have you tried to use the --force-all option together with dpkg -i?
[13:48] <lardman> Incarus6: I can certainly give that a go
[13:48] <Incarus6> lardman, the files /var/cache/apt/archives/scratchbox-libs_1.0.26_amd64.deb and /var/cache/apt/archives/scratchbox-core_1.0.26_amd64.deb
[13:48] <share> szal: because ill use encryption
[13:49] <share> zz
[13:49] <ghostnik11> ThinkT510: I already tried libre office channel, it was only me and channelserv there and went to #documentfoundation in freenode as i am there right now and voiced my question to see if there is a way to fix the issue, and also did two image bins and put in there channel but got no replys from searching on google just now it seems the problem is on microsoft end like you said so I will either have to just go into each file
[13:49] <ghostnik11> individually and edit them to make paragraphs look proper or use google docs view from my gmail, which i didn't want to do.  But i don't get it if it shows up in google docs view properly why doesn't it show up in libre office properly
[13:49] <silverarrow> hi
[13:49] <lardman> Incarus6: still no luck: http://pastebin.com/Vf7WCbK3
[13:49] <ghostnik11> here is an example how the paragraph structure comes up in a preview in google docs: http://imagebin.org/165917
[13:50] <ghostnik11> here is an example of how the same paragraph that i showed in the above image looks while in libre office: http://imagebin.org/165922
[13:50] <yashi-_> Incarus6: ? waiting for what?
[13:50] <silverarrow> does anyone know if lubuntu can get messed up with time, like having multiple browsers, using transmission file share, installing software, ...
[13:51] <ThinkT510> ghostnik11: hopefully you can persuade the person who gave you the files to use a different format in the future
[13:52] <Incarus6> yashi-_, until the download has finished
[13:52] <silverarrow> my computer have become a bit slow at responding on some online links, and have a tendency towards freezing
[13:52] <silverarrow> any idea what it might be?
[13:52] <silverarrow> I am Lyn Gordon really
[13:53] <szal> ghostnik11: fwiw, you haven't been in #libreoffice
[13:53] <Incarus6> yashi-_, can't get it running, sry. some kind of gtk error
[13:53] <silverarrow> I am Flash Gordon really
[13:53] <share> !ot | silverarrow
[13:53] <szal> ghostnik11: and that MS XML support leaves a lot to be desired is known, just avoid the format if you can
[13:53] <silverarrow> libre office can mess up the system?
[13:54] <silverarrow> I have libre office
[13:54] <evanton> silverarrow: from my experience slow response to online links usually means slow DNS servers (unless you have hardware issues)
[13:54]  * lardman wonders if his problem is the same as Launchpad bug #769241
[13:54] <ghostnik11> thinkt510: don't think thats going to happen as its a medical doctor and a teacher who works at a university in the city, and the fact that he is using docx means thats the university standard, i guess.  plus don't think its proper if i tell someone helping me that he needs to change, don't think i am at same level to tell him that, szal yeah i am in #documentfoundation and i asked the question and when to #libreoffice and i
[13:54] <ghostnik11> t was just me and channelserv and seen no one else must have been empathy problem then, will go back into room and see if people appear and ask question
[13:55] <silverarrow> evanton, no it is the computer I think because the troulbe is only some links, and it's like computer fails not notice this is acutally a link
[13:56] <sw0rdfish> evanton, the thing you suggest first had to do with quotas? right
[13:56] <evanton> sw0rdfish: the filesystem inside the container?
[13:56] <sw0rdfish> erm yes
[13:56] <ThinkT510> ghostnik11: shouldn't they give you a stufent license for ms office? (not that thats a perminant solution)
[13:57] <ghostnik11> szal: okay now people appear in my window that shows people in empathy are in #libreoffice
[13:57] <sipior> wols: sorry, had to see a man about a dog. here's a link which may be of interest: http://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/8208-all-about-linux-swap-space (the comment by "Tony" is of particular relevance).
[13:57] <ThinkT510> student
[13:57] <Ssn> the flashplugin from software center (65.3 MB to download, 213 MB when installed), is it the same from adobe's site(Adobe Flash Player version 10.3.181.34 Linux | 3.83 MB)?
[13:57] <evanton> sw0rdfish: actually, it's a way to avoid fiddling with quotas. You create a file of given size, fill it with zeros using dd, create a filesystem inside that file, using it as container, then mount that one to a given directory
[13:59] <silverarrow> so I should't worry too much about weird unresponsiveness?
[13:59] <Incarus6> Ssn, http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/flashplugin-installer
[14:00] <FrEaKmAn_> how to use grep for top command list to filter by user and by command?
[14:00] <ghostnik11> thinkt510: its not the university i went to as an undergrad, i actually graduated undergrad but am trying to pursue professional schooling, but i had a copy of microsoft office when a long time ago i was blinded like everyone else around me who only knows microsoft, but was awakened when a friend showed me ubuntu, i have never looked back as i have seen the truth and refuse to use microsoft products as it is not beneficial t
[14:00] <ghostnik11> o collectivity  humanity
[14:00] <maiconp> Hello everyone
[14:01] <sw0rdfish> whats the command to check dir size again
[14:01] <maiconp> I'm problem with my nautilus and xserver
[14:01] <wols> sipior: while I agree with the unpredictability of what gets killed by OOM, I don't follow his other argument: as he says: there is no real I/O taking place. hence I don't need it since it's not actually used. except in the (rare) happening of the overcommit which is actually needed
[14:01] <evanton> ghostnik11: if you need the data read-only, those office apps can print to pdf
[14:01] <sw0rdfish> du -h?
[14:01] <Ssn> Incarus6, thanks, so that will take 213mb when it's all installed right?
[14:01] <wols> sipior: ie I don#t have any negative results unless OOM actually hits
[14:01] <Pici> sw0rdfish: du -hs
[14:01] <evanton> sw0rdfish: simplest one is du, I also like ncdu
[14:02] <Incarus6> Ssn, normally not. Paste?
[14:02] <ThinkT510> ghostnik11: i see, still you could ask for the documents in an alternative format (i think somebody just suggested pdf)
[14:02] <sw0rdfish> thanks Pici & evanton
[14:02] <wols> sipior: the memory which is allocated and not used internally isn't simply kept free "in case I need it", it's still used as cache normally. as I said: all internal bookkeeping
[14:03] <maiconp> when I run nautilus smb://my_IP_Server appear an messange about haven't been connected
[14:03] <sipior> wols: his (the commenter's) point is that the VM subsystem *must* guarantee that the space exists, whether or not that's a good idea. writing those allocations to swap keeps them from wasting your ram. they can't be used for cache, because they are still tied up by the process that reserved them.
[14:04] <Ssn> Incarus6, well that's what the software center and synaptic told me...
[14:04] <yashi-_> Incarus6: aww 2bad..thx for trying :(
[14:05] <maiconp> why I don't use my nautilus ?
[14:05] <Incarus6> Ssn, maybe because of some dependencies, but usually it would take 184 kB installed
[14:05] <helpneeded> hey, i have a problem getting opengl to work with kubuntu, anyone can help me? I am using an ati hd4850 matrix card
[14:05] <maiconp> why can't use my nautilus
[14:05] <maiconp> ?
[14:05] <ghostnik11> thinkt510: i will try and hopefully the doctor won't get mad or anything but the thing with pdf is that its can't be edited so easy, but when it comes to presenting research papers I know pdf is the preferred standard b/c thats what I had to use when I was conducting research for summer internships
[14:06] <Incarus6> Ssn, try "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer". This command usually returns how much space something will take
[14:06] <UbuntuGNULinux> Does anyone know whether Gnome Shell will be available on the default CD for Ubuntu 11.10?
[14:06] <mneptok> ghostnik11: actually, in the hard sciences, TeX is the preferred markup for research papers.
[14:06] <wols> sipior: no. allocation is never commit. linux _always_ overcommits cause it's the sensible thing to do. with swap, the overcommit just happens later, that is all. but performance wise there is no difference. The kernel doesn't have to guarantee anything. if it would guarantee, there would be no OOM killer needed. but it's obviously there
[14:06] <ThinkT510> ghostnik11: he should at the very least be able to give the same doc to you in the older .doc format
[14:07] <ldr> UbuntuGNULinux GNOME Shell is now available in the official Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot repositories, along with most of the GNOME 3 applications (Gedit 3, Nautilus 3 Evolution and so on; some of them are available for quite some time - like Nautilus, while some were uploaded recently - like Gedit or Evolution)
[14:07] <UbuntuGNULinux> ldr: Will it be on the default live CD?
[14:07] <evanton> sw0rdfish: you can watch a directory size by monitoring write access to it with incron
[14:07] <ThinkT510> !11.10 | UbuntuGNULinux
[14:07] <Ssn> Incarus6, yes, I've tried it before, it'll download 66mb  worth of file, but after all installation is done, software center will say it takes only a couple hundred kb, that's why I feel weird
[14:08] <UbuntuGNULinux> ThinkT510: That doesn't help in the slightest...
[14:08] <ldr> UbuntuGNULinux i think their will be at least 2 live cds one will have it
[14:08] <Incarus6> Ssn, are you using a special mirror server for packages?
[14:08] <Verva> Hi can I get help in this IRC or is there a dedicated help IRC?
[14:08] <Pici> UbuntuGNULinux: Best to ask in #ubuntu+1
[14:08] <UbuntuGNULinux> ldr: Thanks
[14:08] <Pici> Ssn: Because its not a normal package, as the post-isntall script downloads a separate file from adobe's website.
[14:08] <ThinkT510> UbuntuGNULinux: the factoid is telling you to discuss it in #ubuntu+1
[14:08] <wols> sipior: the only stuff you could put into swap is the binaries' "dead ends". code that is never ever used or data that is never accessed. you can swap that out and make room for more useful cache. that's about it. but with big memory sizes, this is not really needed anymore since the amount is so small. at least in linux where we have proper systemwide shared libs, unlike windows...
[14:09] <Pici> Verva: This channel is for Ubuntu support. If you're just looking for a general support channel #freenode can help you find it.
[14:09] <UbuntuGNULinux> ThinkT510: I disagree
[14:09] <wols> sipior: and for the kernel to actually do that you ahve to do that andrew morton thing and set swappiness to 100%
[14:09] <Ssn> no, just a brand new install 11.04, should i paste the whole detail from synaptic?
[14:09] <maiconp> when I run nautilus smb://ip_server is appear a messenge error: the naultiulus can't handle smb
[14:10] <maiconp> someone help me?
[14:10] <ghostnik11> mneptok, okay thats for letting me know, if i decide to do any personal research on my own then i will use Tex, but don't understand why professors, doctors and other individuals don't just use odt or simple open source when it comes to there works, feel they can just tell student download libre office for free and use that, making everything one standard across all disciplinary, thinkt510: yeah i figured he and a lot of oth
[14:10] <ghostnik11> ers still used .doc as standard, as thats what i use when i have to send some one a text, i use .doc and not docx
[14:10] <sipior> wols: yes, i said that badly. the kernel makes no guarantees, and so having plentiful swap space is a way of ensuring *reliability* in the face of an unpredictable environment. that's why we need swap.
[14:10] <cdavis> Anyone have a spotify invite?
[14:10] <szal> UbuntuGNULinux: as long as Oneiric isn't released, all discussion related to it goes in #ubuntu+1.  Period.
[14:10] <Pici> maiconp: I think that method of connecting to servers i deprecated.  Use the Bookmarks or Places menu to connect to a server.
[14:10] <Pici> !ot | cdavis
[14:10] <sipior> wols: and as i said earlier, trading off cheap hard drive space for expansive ram is not very clever.
[14:11] <Ssn> Pici, so that still means flash will take 200+mb anyway right?
[14:11] <wols> sipior: I wouldn't say "need" :P  but these are the differences in approach I guess :)
[14:11] <Pici> Ssn: 200+mb seems exceptionally big.
[14:11] <UbuntuGNULinux> szal: That's not my experience, we'll have to agree to disagree
[14:11] <maiconp> where is the  bookmarks?
[14:12] <maiconp> or conection menu?
[14:12] <Incarus6> UbuntuGNULinux, Unity is the default desktop of Ubuntu. The next Ubuntu release will not ship gnome, I think Gubuntu will.
[14:12] <Ssn> Pici, that's why i feel weird, but I've tried twice before, it did download 60mb worth of something at least
[14:12] <wols> sipior: it all depends on workload. having seen how my systems never used swap, I just got pissed at all the wasted space and eliminated it. only times I had OOM killer hit was when e.g. my apache (or mysql) had some runaway memory leak. never in normal operation
[14:12] <Pici> Ssn: I have a fast connection, so it is possible it downloaded something larger than what I thought.
[14:13] <wols> sipior: if I did more java dev for example I might have kept swap around. those java IDEs are just hogs for memory
[14:14] <ghostnik11> mneptok: meant to say thanks not thats, sorry about that
[14:14] <Ssn> ia32-libs (version 20090808ubuntu13) will be installed
[14:14] <Ssn> lib32asound2 (version 1.0.24.1-0ubuntu5) will be installed
[14:14] <Ssn> lib32bz2-1.0 (version 1.0.5-6ubuntu1) will be installed
[14:14] <Ssn> lib32gcc1 (version 1:4.5.2-8ubuntu4) will be installed
[14:14] <Ssn> lib32ncurses5 (version 5.7+20101128-1) will be installed
[14:14] <Ssn> lib32ncursesw5 (version 5.7+20101128-1) will be installed
[14:14] <Ssn> lib32stdc++6 (version 4.5.2-8ubuntu4) will be installed
[14:14] <Ssn> lib32v4l-0 (version 0.8.3-1) will be installed
[14:14] <FloodBot1> Ssn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:14] <sipior> wols: i certainly won't argue there.
[14:14] <ThinkT510> ghostnik11: no worries :)
[14:14] <Pici> Ssn: Then it depends on a number of things that you didn't have installed yet, that is normal.
[14:15] <Ssn> sorry , I didn't know how to paste, it says "please don't flood"
[14:15] <lardman> do the multi-arch changes mask some packages in the package db?
[14:15] <ThinkT510> !paste | ssn
[14:16] <Pici> Ssn: "use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste"
[14:16] <Ssn> here is what synaptic says http://paste.ubuntu.com/656411/
[14:16] <Incarus6> Ssn, as Pici said, it is not unusual in your case. I suppose you are running 64bit
[14:17] <Verva> I'm trying to set up a server for minecraft and I'm trying to get an init script set up. I've got it in init.d and rc.d has been updated. the next thing i need to do is mound a ramdisk. I have no idea how to do this.
[14:17] <stevethepirate> Lol, my mysql root password is borked. I can't rest it using the traditional "--skip-grant-tables --skip-networking &", or by dpk-reconfiguring mysql-server5.0
[14:18] <Saik> !firewall
[14:18] <lardman> talking of the wonders of 64bit, I installed a 32bit package before upgrading to Natty, now I'm trying to install a newer 64bit version, and apt-get remove doesn't recognise the 32bit package as installed, but apt-get install complains that it is installed. Any ideas?
[14:18] <Ssn> oh, right, so it's the 32bit dependency that's taking up all the space, thanks all
[14:20] <Ssn> one more thing, flash does have a 64bit beta version now, will that one be better for a 64bit system or I just shouldn't bother
[14:21] <b0ot> I am trying to figure out what is the best way to capture my current running system so that I can quickly install it on computers of very similar or identical hardware. I have things like custom drivers that I have installed and my current method is a really long bash script.
[14:21] <b0ot> Any suggestions?
[14:21] <ikonia> b0ot: from from a cdrom, take a dd block by block image of the disk, restore that image to other systems if the hardware is the same
[14:21] <markamber> what would be the ubuntu channel for making a package, or can someone just pm me here, I have quite a few questions
[14:21] <markamber> well, maybe like 4
[14:22] <ikonia> markamber: #ubuntu-packaging
[14:22] <markamber> ikonia:  no kidding, thanks
[14:22] <GirlyGirl> b0ot: Or install ubiquity on the working system and use it to install to the hdd of other systems
[14:22] <Verva> So can anyone here help me mount a ramdisk?
[14:23] <Saik> iceroot: ya still payn attention?
[14:23] <b0ot> ikonia, dd has tons of issues with it, mainly when you try to put it on multiple drives the UIDS get messed up... and my comps don't have cdrom
[14:23] <briannon> Good morning
[14:23] <stevethepirate> Hi I need help resetting my MySQL password. I can't reset it using the traditional "--skip-grant-tables --skip-networking &", or by a dpk-reconfigure mysql-server5.1
[14:23] <ikonia> b0ot the uuid's will be identical if your disk is identical as you suggested in the question
[14:23] <ikonia> stevethepirate: try #mysql for the grant table approach
[14:24] <b0ot> ikonia, sorry I want to take my current system and be able to "install" it on other computers
[14:24] <stevethepirate> I've tried both ikonia
[14:24] <b0ot> with very similar or identical hardware
[14:24] <Guest18495> Hello ppl
[14:24] <dcg> b0ot: there is a package called (from memory) partimage that should be able to do what you want. it is filesystem aware and handles empty space and sparse files correctly
[14:24] <ikonia> b0ot: yes, and dd will allow that
[14:24] <Guest18495> Can any body help me
[14:24] <ikonia> b0ot: failing that you'll have to look at making kickstart profiles, but that will be a profile driven build rather than a replica
[14:24] <Guest18495> Install mac on
[14:25] <Guest18495> My system
[14:25] <Guest18495> Hii irraya
[14:25] <Incarus6> !ubuntu | Guest18495
[14:25] <b0ot> ikonia, I have used dd before and it just causes issues when using it for anything other than a backup of that exact drive
[14:25] <ikonia> Guest18495: you can only install mac OS on apple hardware, please see ##macosx
[14:25] <ikonia> b0ot: no it doesn't I've just pushed out a desktop to 10 idencial desktops last week
[14:25] <lardman> fwiw, one needs to tack :i386 onto the end of the package names that are apparently installed when you try to install something else, and not installed when you try to remove them
[14:26] <ikonia> !packaging > markamber
[14:26] <Guest18495> No ikonia
[14:26] <GirlyGirl> b0ot: See my pm
[14:26] <Guest18495> I wanna do something of hackintosh types
[14:26] <ikonia> Guest18495: that is not something we support here
[14:26] <markamber> thanks ikonia
[14:26] <UbuntuGNULinux> Guest18495: sudo apt-get install hackintosh
[14:27] <b0ot> ikonia, that works assuming you only have one copy on your system
[14:27] <ThinkT510> Guest18495: you are in the wrong channel then
[14:28] <ikonia> b0ot: if you have special requirements, please statement, as it's hard to give suggestions if you change the goalposts
[14:28] <Incarus6> ikonia, Mac OS is running on intel hardware since 10.4.4. We just don't support it here
[14:28] <dcg> GirlyGirl: how about sharing here, I for one am always interested in new was to do things like this
[14:28] <ikonia> Incarus6: no - it is licensed to apple hardware only,
[14:28] <Guest18495> Incarus6: can u help me install mac on my intel machine
[14:28] <dcg> b0ot: did you see my suggestion of partimage?
[14:28] <Incarus6> !ubuntu | Guest1849
[14:29] <GirlyGirl> dcg: Sorry
[14:29] <ikonia> Guest18495: do not ask again , it is not something we discuss in this channel
[14:29] <norro> I don`t wanna spam, so I ask just one more time (sorry): I try to debug a running process with gdb on ubuntu natty. It keeps telling me "ptrace: operation not permitted". I already tried to remove the kernel ptrace protection (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Roadmap/KernelHardening#ptrace_Protection) but it doesn`t work. Thanks in advance for any ideas or suggestions.
[14:29] <anadon> I updated 11.10, and the system hangs after it checks the battery state (says its ok).  I cannot access GRUB either to use a different kernel.  SUggestions how to fix?  Do I need to report this?
[14:29] <anadon> ubuntu+1 is dead-ish
[14:29] <ikonia> anadon: thats where support is, sorry
[14:29] <anadon> RAGE
[14:30] <b0ot> dcg, checking it out now. How does something like partimage or fsarchiver work with drivers that you have installed? Would I be able to make a backup of hardware A and drop that on hardware B if A and B had the same or very similar components?
[14:30] <GirlyGirl> Guest18495: Refer to apple support, assuming your "intel machine" is an intel mac
[14:30] <Incarus6> norro, this issue seems to be related with permissions, "sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/gdb" could fix it
[14:31] <tonussi> #join automata
[14:31] <m1d4s> i have a dual boot system (Zenwalk && Windows7) and i want to change my linux distro to xubuntu will ubuntu installation handle a simple switch ? i mean , don`t want to loose all of my data at zenwalk
[14:31] <w00> hi, is there a SAFE way of re-installing an Ubuntu 11.04 machine?
[14:31] <tonussi> \join
[14:31] <ikonia> m1d4s: if your data is seperate to teh zenwalk install, sure
[14:31] <abhinav_singh> there is a game called solo sudoku in ubuntu software center..how to get source code of it? i searched in net but no real success
[14:32] <log_null> its just me or someone else had troubles with init.d scripts in ubuntu?
[14:32] <xangua> abhinav_singh: enabled the source repository¿
[14:32] <dcg> b0ot: it will depend on the exact hardware issues, but in general ubuntu (well linux actually) can handle significant hardware variation WITHOUT any issues these days.
[14:32] <ThinkT510> !upstart | log_null
[14:32] <norro> Incarus6: I`ll try. Thanks for the hint
[14:32] <abhinav_singh> how xangua ...i dnt know it how do i get the source code
[14:33] <xangua> abhinav_singh: software centre-edit-sources
[14:33] <Incarus6> w00, define safe. I prefer the command "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a". This will reconfigure all packages but use it cautious
[14:33] <rumpe1> abhinav_singh, terminal: "apt-get source gnome-sudoku"  *guessing*
[14:33] <b0ot> dcg alright i'm going to start with fsarchiver and partimage and see how that works
[14:33] <b0ot> thanks
[14:33] <xangua> !source | abhinav_singh
[14:34] <m1d4s> ikonia: what about data (pic, codes, movies) at a specific location for example /user/m1d4s
[14:34] <m1d4s> will it stay ?
[14:34] <dcg> b0ot: no problem. partimage should do everything you need. I have used it many times in the past.
[14:34] <ikonia> m1d4s: if that is on a seperate partition as the OS, no problem
[14:34] <Saik> iceroot: ya there?
[14:35] <dcg> b0ot: just remember that it literally is cloneing the harddrive, so any "sensitive" data eg: "stored passwords" will be cloned too.
[14:35] <b0ot> dcg thanks
[14:36] <m1d4s> ikonia: its on the same partition don`t have it separately, thats what i`m asking about will it format the partition or just change all of system data and leave my personal data
[14:36] <norro> Incarus6: unfortunately that didn`t help. but thanks anyway
[14:36] <ikonia> m1d4s: back it up then
[14:36] <dcg> b0ot: one other thing. I would make sure that fstab uses UUID's instead of "/dev/sda" type references as different machines *may* assign drives differently
[14:36] <m1d4s> ikonia: to much work and don`t have space
[14:36] <Incarus6> norro, try as root "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope"
[14:36] <ikonia> m1d4s: then you can't do anything about it
[14:37] <w00> Incarus6, yeah my bad, forgot to mention it's remote so safe would mean not to get left out, beside the usual "don't hose my system" :)
[14:37] <m1d4s> ikonia: if it would be the same os then the files would stay ?
[14:38] <ikonia> m1d4s: no, as the file system would still get formatted
[14:38] <mmcji> howdee, got a weird issue.  i am connecting a external usb drive to backup a few files.  It is not showing the correct amount of space with df -h.  On my ubuntu laptop it is showing 110 of available space. On a windows laptop it shows the same thing, but on the linux server it is showing only 4.2GB of available space.  Is there a better command I should be using.  The external usb storage I am attaching is formated in fat32.
[14:38] <norro> Incarus6: I already tried, even setting this permanently (in the according conf file). sadly enough this doesn`t have any effect
[14:38] <dcg> m1d4s: in this day and age, a 2Terrabyt drive can be purchased for arround $100 australian. so really lack of space should only be an issue for a day or so.
[14:38] <Incarus6> norro, are you running debian?
[14:39] <Incarus6> w00, and why do you wan't to reinstall ubuntu?
[14:39] <Incarus6> *want
[14:39] <norro> Incarus6: ubuntu natty
[14:39] <Incarus6> norro, you want to upgrade?
[14:40] <soul> hola
[14:40] <soul> alguien por ahi
[14:40] <dcg> mmcji: that is very strange! could you please pastebin the result of "sudo sfdisk -l /dev/sdb". don't forget to read the manpage first to make sure I am not telling you do wreck your machine :)
[14:40] <dcg> mmcji: btw change /dev/sdb to the right device for your usb drive
[14:40] <mmcji> sdb1 actually
[14:41] <dcg> mmcji: no do not use the partition, just the device, sdb is the device, sdb1 is the partition
[14:41] <mmcji> o, i bet that is it
[14:41] <w00> Incarus6, compromised system, i just got access to it and would like to clean it up with as low downtime as possible
[14:42] <dcg> w00: for a compromised system, I would not COMPRIMISE.....do a clean reinstall, and manually inspect any files that you bring in from the old system
[14:42] <dcg> w00: anything else is *risky* at best
[14:43] <dcg> w00: while you have access dump any data to an external device, and also take down the network, physically if possible.
[14:44] <Saik> dcg: perhaps t would be cleanable with a change of passwords and such?
[14:44] <w00> dcg, that's the issue :) don't have physical access to it
[14:44] <Saik> w00: did you set a root password?
[14:44] <w00> Saik, not while there are running rootkits :)
[14:44] <soul_> hola
[14:44] <soul_> alguien por ahi
[14:44] <soul_> hola
[14:44] <w00> And god knows what else
[14:45] <Pici> !es | soul_
[14:45] <dcg> Saik: making the assumption that the breach was malicious, there is a VERY good chance that the evil one will have left something on the system to allow them to regain access after a password change etc.
[14:45] <soul_> oks
[14:45] <soul_> grax
[14:45] <dcg> could be as simple as setting up ssh keys, or a hidden "root" telnet session
[14:46] <dcg> heck a simple bash script can enable a terminal on a network port that is easy enough to overlook
[14:46] <Saik> dcg: but woldn't that allow you to notice  any outgoing connections?
[14:47] <mmcji> dcg:  http://pastebin.com/XsFFFR5p
[14:47] <sudipta> hi
[14:47] <norro> Incarus6: you mean upgrade to the upcoming version?
[14:47] <phill> help requested with setting up openvpn connection...
[14:47] <sudipta> how to set up LAN interface in ubuntu 11.04?
[14:48] <Incarus6> norro, nevermind, was confused for a second. It could be still some kind of security software like apparmor or selinux
[14:49] <Saik> w00: I'm no expert, just thowing out some ideas
[14:49] <dcg> mmcji: I think I know what is up....you need to empty the recycle bin on that device :) :) :)
[14:49] <mmcji> aww
[14:49] <mmcji> i will try that
[14:49] <Tipp_> hello. has anyone ran HoN on intel 945 with linux?
[14:50] <odie5533> How do I allow a user to use sudo from the terminal?
[14:50] <chrome_> is there any graeasemonkey script to open various blog pages into a single one?
[14:50] <odie5533> chrome_: yea it's some infinite pages plugin
[14:50] <ThinkT510> odie5533: your default user should  already be able to use sudo
[14:50] <odie5533> ThinkT510: Yes. But I want another too
[14:50] <dcg> Saik: no, there are ways to leave the connection dormant, until some other event occurs. so you would need to be monitoring constantly, and could miss a connection that only exists for a second or so. this brief connection could take you back to square one
[14:51] <odie5533> chrome_: autopager
[14:51] <ThinkT510> odie5533: you'd need to add that user to the wheel group
[14:51] <odie5533> chrome_: AutoPager @ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/autopager/
[14:51] <Saik> dcg: if all other ports are closed?
[14:51] <odie5533> ThinkT510: so would sudo adduser odie5533 wheel, work then?
[14:51] <chrome_> odie5533: that's not greasemonkey. but I'll check it out though
[14:52] <Pici> odie5533, ThinkT510: Ubuntu doesn't use a wheel group.  We use 'admin'
[14:52] <dcg> ThinkT510: odie5533: not sure about the "wheel" group but ubuntu uses the "sudo" group
[14:53] <ThinkT510> Pici: ahh, sorry, thats my arch knowledge kcking in
[14:53] <Incarus6> norro, or try running gdb as root?
[14:53] <odie5533> Pici: I saw group 'adm', but trying 'admin' did not work.
[14:53] <dcg> Saik: yes even if all ports are closed :(
[14:53] <Saik> dcg, w00: I'll just shut up now
[14:53] <Pici> odie5533: adm is for logfile stuff. Your user should be in the admin group. If not, then take a look at the contents of /etc/sudoers (use visudo)
[14:53] <norro> Incarus6: also fails :/ i try asking the gdb guys. but thanks again for your help
[14:54] <dcg> Pici: odie5533: no for just allowing a user to use sudo it is the "sudo" group. look at /etc/sudoers
[14:54] <odie5533> dch: Thanks, yeah, adding my user to group sudo was a bad idea xD
[14:54] <Incarus6> norro, I can't help you with that, I'm never using gdb. But for additional information see: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2010-June/030940.html https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/PolicyKitIntegration
[14:55] <Pici> dcg: No, not in Ubuntu by default. Its the 'admin' group.
[14:55] <ikonia> dcg: keep in mind that will give access to ALL(ALL)
[14:56] <dcg> Pici: if you look at the sudoers file the default is "sudo" admin will potentially allow other privlidges (based on file permissions etc)
[14:56] <Pici> dcg: I stand corrected.
[14:57] <dcg> ikonia: yes that is correct. by default anyone in group sudo will have full root access. for anyother level of restriction, you would need to setup a user based restriction in sudoers
[14:57] <ikonia> dcg: that's fine, just checking you knew it would be a wide sudo rule set
[14:57] <vendix> what are the alternatives beside kde, gnome, xfce for ubuntu?
[14:57] <Tipp_> lxde
[14:58] <ThinkT510> vendix: lxde and enlightenment and fluxbox
[14:58] <Incarus6> vendix, E17, icewm
[14:58] <evanton> most window managers are in repos, you'll have to compile some which are exotic
[14:58] <dcg> odie5533: please take note of what ikonia and myself have just said.
[14:58] <evanton> also, don't you forget that whole bunch of tiling window managers
[14:59] <dcg> odie5533: you need to add the user to the sudo group but likely will want to "restrict" their use of sudo by adding additional rules to /etc/sudoers
[14:59] <odie5533> dcg: I want it to have the same level as my own account
[14:59] <odie5533> It's for my brother. I trust him :)
[15:00] <dcg> odie5533: btw. don't forget to use visudo, or simliar to edit /etc/sudoers as a mistake using other methods can prevent sudo from working at all :(
[15:00] <dcg> odie5533: in that case all you need to do is add him to the sudo group.
[15:00] <odie5533> dcg: you mean the admin group?
[15:00] <odie5533> I used visudo, but did not make any edits since I did not want any different restrictions.
[15:01] <sudipta> how to set up LAN interface in ubuntu 11.04?
[15:01] <dcg> no, if you want him to have sudo access then add him to the sudo group. admin group has no effect on sudo. but can alter other things
[15:01] <dcg> odie5533: so maybe you would want to add him to admin and sudo.
[15:02] <amine> exit
[15:02] <odie5533> dcg: hmm, adding to admin seems to have done the trick though.
[15:02] <dcg> sudipta: it should be as simple as plug in the cable and it works. if not you may need to click on the detwork icon (near the clock. look for tooltips) and do some manual config
[15:03] <dcg> odie5533: that is strange. for a default sudo config admin should make no difference, unless there is something in the pam config that changes that?
[15:03] <sudipta> dcg::::about the manual configuration ,is there any manual available on net
[15:03] <sudipta> ?
[15:04] <odie5533> dcg: The user can use sudo being in the admin group.
[15:04] <dcg> odie5533: sorry, just reread the sudoers file, and currently the admin group is also configured to be the same as sudo group
[15:05] <odie5533> dcg: Adding a user to sudo would be a bad idea I think.
[15:05] <odie5533> like enabling the root account.
[15:05] <dcg> odie5533: I believe that this is a fairly recent addition, though I can't be to sure.
[15:06] <dcg> odie5533: actually no, it is only used (from what I can remember when I investigated some time ago) as a group for allowing a user to use sudo.
[15:06] <Sancas> i cant start my gdm :(
[15:07] <dcg> odie5533: conversely the admin group was used to allow various files to be accessed/modified as well as (currently) giving sudo access
[15:07] <Sancas> only update and i cant start
[15:07] <Sancas> im trying with previos kernel but i cant :(
[15:07] <Sancas> what can i do?
[15:07] <dcg> sudipta: I am not sure if there is any manual for 11.04 net config. but ubuntu.com would be  agood place to look.
[15:08] <dcg> sudipta: generally you should be able to muddle your way through if you have a basic knowledge of network setup. it is fairly straight forward
[15:09] <dcg> Sancas: what video card are you using, and what is coming up on your screen?
[15:09] <Sancas> im have ati hd radeon 5750
[15:09] <evanton> simplest way of net config is setting up ip/gateway, for proper internet access dns servers are also needed
[15:10] <Saik> anyone know how would I setup tomcat to listen on eth0 instead of lo  (tomcat version 5.5.28,  ubuntu 10.04 LTS3)
[15:10] <Sancas> and i have black screen :(
[15:10] <evanton> you get those things automagically over dhcp or configure them manually
[15:11] <dcg> Sancas: ok for ATI I am not the right person to help. sorry. hopefully someone has recent familiarity with ati.
[15:12] <phill> how to create a ca.pem file for openvpn given the windows openvpn config files?
[15:12] <Sancas> ok dcg :D
[15:16] <VEndiX> reinstalled ubuntu for 2 or 3 times, linux needs more development, than it is now
[15:17] <dcg> mmcji: did that solve your problem?
[15:17] <sterna> VEndiX: linux? :)
[15:17] <yalk> hello wrold
[15:17] <mmcji> no
[15:17] <yalk>  hiiiiiiiiiii
[15:18] <f3bruary> Can someone help me with a problem I'm having with bluetooth ?
[15:18] <yalk> i too wifi
[15:18] <VEndiX> sterna: yes
[15:19] <mmcji> but reformted in gparted.  working fine now.  I think windows 7 had created system restore points and the linux sever was seeing that
[15:21] <prathamb> is ther a good app for creating flow charts??
[15:22] <prathamb> is ther a good app for creating flow charts??
[15:23] <prathamb> guess not >_>
[15:23] <Polah> prathamb: Don't be impatient. LibreOffice's Draw can do flow charts.
[15:25] <tjiggi_fo> meh, children of today! Just lined up 4 homepage links for him and he leaves before I can post them
[15:26] <f3bruary> Can someone help me with a problem I'm having with bluetooth ?
[15:30] <cheek2cheek> hi, I'm new to ubuntu I just intalled it. I would like to install my printer HP Deskjet 5940. How should I do it? Help appreciated.
[15:31] <xangua>  cheek2cheekif it's supported , just conect it and start printing
[15:31] <xangua> !printer
[15:32] <zeyphr> cheek2cheek check if tiz avaliable here www.hplipopensource.com
[15:32] <prashant_123456> cheek2cheek, http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodNameId=445463&prodTypeId=18972&prodSeriesId=445462&swLang=8&taskId=135&swEnvOID=2020
[15:32] <prashant_123456> cheek2cheek, if u need linux drivers for ubuntu
[15:33] <phill> !vpn
[15:33] <cheek2cheek> The printer is connected to the pc by usb port... but when I try to print a document it says generic printer and when I press the print button nothing happens.
[15:34] <cheek2cheek> Does that mean I perhaps need drivers for it to install?
[15:34] <zeyphr> yea it does...
[15:35] <mousefad> Trying to install 11.04 on a machine with a "fakeraid" HDD, and it's failing at the grub install...
[15:35] <mousefad> first it defaulted to installing the boot loader in /dev/sda, which failed because the device is actually /dev/mapper/somecrazystuff
[15:35] <prashant_123456> cheek2cheek, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=184838 check this out
[15:36] <mousefad> then when I set that in the ubiquity partition page, it still failed.  :s
[15:36] <cheek2cheek> thanks prashant_123456
[15:36] <prashant_123456> cheek2cheek, u r welcome
[15:36] <dimmATwerk2> anyone happen to be somewhat versed in pm-utils?  trying to figure out how parameters get passed to hooks, specifically the true/false
[15:37] <dimmATwerk2> for some hooks suspend/hibernate is passing false...  and i want it to be true specifically upon resume
[15:38] <tru3fate> can anyone help im looking for a guide to setup the firewall on ubuntu 11.04
[15:38] <b0ot> How do I tell if my partitions are  LVM (Logical volume Manager) Logical-Volumes,
[15:39] <_raven> 10.04 + tb7300 digitize tablet: pen freezes every tap. different driver available?
[15:39] <mousefad> did anyone have success with fakeraid HDDs with 11.04?  The howto is not updated.
[15:41] <dimmATwerk2> been looking through the scripts for pm-utils, but no clue how true/false is passed to each hook...  help?
[15:41] <cheek2cheek> problem solved with my printer. thanks
[15:41] <aetas> b0ot, by their name is pretty easy...do "fdisk -l" and what are the partitions named?
[15:41] <ne2k> mousefad: fakeraid is pretty pointless. you might as well just use software raid.
[15:42] <evanton> tru3fate: this is a good starting point assuming you know general stuff about tcp/ip https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[15:43] <ne2k> mousefad: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[15:43] <mousefad> ne2k yes, I've read that already.  It is not updated
[15:43] <ne2k> mousefad: have you determined that you actually need fakeraid? why can't you just use software raid?
[15:44] <mousefad> ne2k problem is, I have a system which was set up with fakeraid before (several released ago), and I want to add a partition for a new install (so I can verify everything works before I nuke the old partition)
[15:44] <doner> 有人吗
[15:44] <mousefad> ne2k: the machine also has XP on it, and I cannot just scratch the whole thing and start again.
[15:44] <ne2k> mousefad: ok, fair enough. that is a good reason
[15:44] <mousefad> much as I would like to
[15:44] <mousefad> ;)
[15:45] <doner> hello ,everyone
[15:45] <mousefad> It's weird, the procedure seems to have stopped working since I did it before with jaunty
[15:46] <bukowski-> hi, can I ask tech questions here?
[15:46] <ne2k> bukowski-: !askask
[15:46] <ne2k> hmmm
[15:46] <ne2k> !ask > bukowski-
[15:46] <mousefad> I guess the installer was changed a lot but nobody bothered to check the fake raid stuff was still working
[15:46] <doner> I am a new comer.Could you tell me what are you talking about ?
[15:46] <mousefad> poor testing
[15:46] <mousefad> although I think these devices are anus
[15:46] <bukowski-> I have an acer with ubuntu and there is that feature in the mouse-prefs to freeze the trackpad while typing, which I like, but there is no way to set the duration.
[15:47] <bukowski-> that is -- I want my touchpad to freeze for longer
[15:47] <bukowski-> when I am typing.
[15:47] <ne2k> bukowski-: that's a cool feature! never heard of it
[15:47] <bukowski-> lol --- really?
[15:47] <bukowski-> most netbooks have it because your thumb tends to hit the trackpad when you type.
[15:48] <bukowski-> on account of tiny keyboard
[15:48] <ne2k> bukowski-: I always just turn off tap to click on notebooks
[15:48] <bukowski-> but I like tap-to-click
[15:48] <dimmATwerk2> anyone happen to be somewhat versed in pm-utils?  trying to figure out how parameters get passed to hooks, specifically the true/false
[15:48] <bukowski-> all I want is to set the freeze time to maybe 1 second instead of .5
[15:49] <dimmATwerk2> for some hooks suspend/hibernate is passing false...  and i want it to be true
[15:49] <dimmATwerk2> been looking through the scripts for pm-utils, but no clue how true/false is passed to each hook...  help?
[15:52] <newPup> anyone python?
[15:52] <dimmATwerk2> no one?
[15:52] <ModestKdr> how do I install  lamp stack on Ubuntu ?
[15:52] <ikonia> newPup: what sort of question is "anyone python"
[15:52] <ikonia> !lamp > ModestKdr
[15:53] <ne2k> dimmATwerk2: you might have better joy asking upstream
[15:53] <dimmATwerk2> ne2k: how do i do that?
[15:54] <ne2k> dimmATwerk2: the pm-utils project is here http://pm-utils.freedesktop.org/wiki/
[15:54] <newPup> meaning: does anyone use or program in python?
[15:54] <ikonia> newPup: why ?
[15:54] <dimmATwerk2> ne2k: do they have an irc channel?
[15:54] <ne2k> dimmATwerk2: I don't know. they've definitely got a mailing list, though
[15:54] <sipior> newPup: there's a #python here on freenode, as i recall. i'm sure they'd be happy to help.
[15:55] <ne2k> newPup: you'd better learn to actually ask questions using sentences, though
[15:55] <jj995> I'm trying to find the users using the most disk space on a server -- is there a quick command to do this?  e.g. like "du /*/* -s --block-size=1G | sort -g" except for sorting by user instead of file
[15:56] <VampiR3> hello there
[15:56] <VampiR3> any one free to help ?
[15:56] <newPup> I've read that ubu includes python by default, but was curious if it just had the interpreter, or what libraries it might have...
[15:56] <RA_drc> well hello
[15:56] <ne2k> jj995: that would be a useful tool. don't know if it exists, though
[15:56] <ne2k> !ask
[15:57] <ikonia> newPup: python is included by default with the standard base python libraries
[15:57] <ikonia> newPup: there are applications installed that have their own specific python based libaries
[15:57] <VampiR3> i want to past some files in my installed app directory but i can't find app directory
[15:58] <VampiR3> paste or extract
[15:58] <sipior> jj995: "du -sh /home" would likely give you what you want, sorted as you like.
[15:58] <sipior> jj995: you'll likely want to preface that with "sudo", of course.
[15:59] <VampiR3> ne2k:i want to past OR extract some files in my installed app directory but i can't find app directory
[15:59] <saliak> I've got an embedded system with a wireless and wired interface.  for some reason i can only ssh to the wireless interface when the wired interface is up (plugged in).  any idea why?
[15:59] <jj995> sipior: thanks, but unfortunately I'm not looking in home directories.  I'm looking to find which users are using the most space outside of home directories
[16:00] <asteve> what release is planned to use 3.0?
[16:00] <ikonia> asteve: none at this time
[16:00] <saliak> or if the interface is down (ifdown eth0), while unplugged
[16:01] <sipior> jj995: ah, i see the problem. if you have a quota system in place, you could consult that. otherwise, whip up a script which feeds off the output of a grepped file listing and does the sums.
[16:01] <ne2k> VampiR3: you can use dpkg -L to list the files in a package, or dpkg -S to find which package owns a certain file
[16:02] <newb> does anyone know an easy way to rip a dvd on ubuntu?
[16:02] <newb> I doesnt alow me to right click and copy
[16:05] <ne2k> jj995: you could use find with prinf %s and %u, and then parse with a quick perl script?
[16:05] <RA_drc> how can i search for a folder with a particular name?  should i use the find command?
[16:05] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[16:05] <Tetracomm> How do I get back the mixer icon in the notification area?
[16:06] <ne2k> RA_drc: find -type d -name <name>
[16:06] <eazyigz> Hello, can anybody tell me how I can set an external monitor (asus) in portrait mode orientation?
[16:06] <newPup> ikonia: thanks much.  Do you know if the standard base python libraries can make a window or popup?  Generate a graph?  Get/retrieve info from a website?
[16:06] <xangua> Tetracomm: add indicator to the panel
[16:06] <RA_drc> ne2k: why do i want to use -type d?
[16:07] <fabianhjr> Captainkrtek, you there? I finally got Linux working. Now I need to update my BIOS for EFI support.(Gigabyte released it for all their boards, yeah <3) Though, I am having issues accessing a LVM2.
[16:07] <ikonia> newPup: I suggest asking in #python
[16:07] <evanton> newPup: the last one is possible through urllib, but there are other http libraries, more complex
[16:08] <stevethepirate> http://pastebin.com/UuMNvkiR Having issues playing Clementine. I've grabbed a few of the packages various sites list, to no avail. Any ideas?
[16:08] <nbest>  evanton  .. like what
[16:08] <jj995> ne2k, thanks, I think I found something similar at http://linuxgazette.net/18/disk_hog.html that I will try
[16:08] <newb> does anyone know an easy way to rip a dvd on ubuntu?
[16:08] <Tetracomm> xangua: Indicator applet? Then what?
[16:08] <evanton> nbest: excuse me? do you want a list of python libraries that speak http?
[16:09] <nbest>   no i just meant an example is all
[16:09] <BluesKaj> !rip |newb
[16:09] <evanton> nbest: I still don't understand. what kind of example?
[16:09] <G0R> newb: dvd:rip
[16:09] <nbest>   oh , that's alright then nvm :) thanks anyway
[16:10] <awoodland> does "started networking" in an upstart job actually imply that the machine should have got a dhcplease, or just that it might be thinking about getting one soon?
[16:10] <BluesKaj> newb, or k9copy
[16:10] <evanton> nbest: just be more specific, there are chances I'll undestand your question
[16:10] <TonyWanis> Anyone need hosting?
[16:10] <newb> thanks people, I find dvd rip quite difficult to use
[16:11] <sipior> newb: have a look at handbrake.
[16:11] <xangua> TonyWanis: stop that , you were toldyesterday
[16:11] <BluesKaj> newb, make sure you have libdvdcss2 if you do a bit for bit copy like image or iso
[16:12] <RA_drc> if i want to find a folder within a folder (for example, a folder named bar within a folder named foo), should i use: find -whole foo/bar ?
[16:12] <oCean> TonyWanis: stop spamming please
[16:12] <newb> BluesKaj, is this file in threpository because i couldnt find it
[16:12] <xangua> Tetracomm: the sound indicator should appear, is not¿
[16:12] <ikonia> RA_drc: find /foo -name bar -print
[16:12] <TonyWanis> Im not spamming sp fuck off
[16:12] <TonyWanis> *so
[16:12] <newPup> ikonia: yup, I have it open in another tab and was thinking of doing that.  Again, thanks much!
[16:13] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | newb
[16:13] <ikonia> newPup:  you are not in the #python channel
[16:14] <newb> BluesKaj, tks
[16:14] <Tetracomm> xangua: I only see something about chat and something else. No sound.
[16:14] <xangua> Tetracomm: tath is the message indicator
[16:14] <prov> Well, I have a problem. I have a small Sony memory stick pro duo and when I plug it into the appropriate port diskutility assigns it to /dev/sdb but says "no media detected." When I try and format it diskutility says that the error was caused because no medium was found. gparted does not even show the drive. What happend?
[16:14] <xangua> !panels
[16:14] <xangua> Tetracomm: try to reset the panels
[16:15] <xangua> mmm that above still works for unity¿
[16:16] <newPup> evanton: thanks!
[16:17] <RA_drc> ikonia: i tried your command, it's not working for me.  would running find -wholename /contrib -name gumstix -print work better?
[16:17] <RA_drc> er
[16:17] <RA_drc> find -wholename /foo -name bar -print work better?
[16:17] <psichas> !Love
[16:17] <ikonia> RA_drc: no
[16:17] <ikonia> RA_drc: I've given you the correct command
[16:17] <newPup> ikonia: oops, looks like they dumped me into #python-unregistered since my nickname isn't registered.  that explains why the channel's totally quiet
[16:17] <RA_drc> ikonia: i tried running your command, and it found nothing
[16:17] <ikonia> RA_drc: then it's not there
[16:17] <deven_> i have installed ubuntu latest version alongside windows, i want search tool which can on the fly index my ntfs files also in linux so i can instantly find where is what?
[16:18] <evanton> newPup: yes, you need to be registered to get into #python, but it's worth it
[16:18] <ikonia> deven_: not going to happen
[16:18] <deven_> sad to hear that ikonia
[16:19] <RA_drc> ikonia: i tried it on a folder that is very much there, and it didn't show up
[16:19] <evanton> deven_: the really simple one is locate/slocate
[16:19] <ikonia> RA_drc: what is the name of the folder
[16:19] <sabre> loguin
[16:19] <sipior> deven_: i'm fairly certain tracker, et alia work just fine on ntfs volumes.
[16:19] <evanton> you need to have your ntfs filesystems mounted at least read-only and tell locate to index those
[16:20] <BlaDe^> Hi guys... I've setup git and i want to use authorized_keys to avoid logging in all the time
[16:20] <deven_> locate/slocate is name of software? i m new to ubuntu tell me plz
[16:20] <BlaDe^> I did ssh-keygen -t rsa
[16:20] <BlaDe^> then I took the ~/.ssh/ida_rsa.pub data and put it into ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on my server
[16:20] <deven_> et alia? is name of software?
[16:20] <BlaDe^> but it still prompts me for a password.. why?
[16:20] <evanton> deven_: it is a tool that looks for files. you do "updatedb" to index the files, then "locate" to search for stuff
[16:20] <ikonia> BlaDe^: because thats not how you setup ssh keys
[16:20] <ikonia> BlaDe^: that's 1 of many steps
[16:21] <Uchiha_Itachi> deven_:  there are coomands to find files
[16:21] <evanton> perhaps there are more modern/fancy alternatives
[16:21] <bipolar> I'm trying to install virtualbox packages (from virtualbox.org) as part of a preseeded install. The only thing I can't figure out is how to get the kernel modules built for the installed kernel rather then the installer's kernel. Right now after the install is done I still need to run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup. Has anyone run into anything similar to this?
[16:21] <deven_> ok thanks all i will see that now
[16:21] <ikonia> bipolar: pre-seeded install ?
[16:21] <Uchiha_Itachi> deven_: you can also use de command "find"
[16:21] <RA_drc> ikonia: they are called foo and bar - i made folders to test out the commands.  would it be a problem if the folder called foo wasn't in the same directory as the directory in which i ran the command?
[16:21] <bipolar> ikonia: yes.
[16:21] <ikonia> bipolar: what is a pre-seeded install ?
[16:21] <sipior> BlaDe^: try using "ssh-copy-id" to transfer the public key to your server.
[16:22] <evanton> Uchiha_Itachi: find actualy searches, I don't think it indexes anything. but it is good for finding stuff of course
[16:22] <bipolar> ikonia: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html
[16:22] <newPup> evanton: I have a dumb question: how do I register?  I went to freenode.net but the only regis* is for registering a group.
[16:22] <bastidrazor> BlaDe^: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/152  i've used this guide several times
[16:22] <sipior> BlaDe^: if it's still not working, try running ssh with the "-v" switch, and see if it prints any useful debugging information (you can keep adding more -v for greater verbosity)
[16:22] <ikonia> RA_drc: then you are using it wrong, it works fine
[16:22] <Uchiha_Itachi> evanton: yeap, it doesn't index files, but much easier to find files in my experience!
[16:22] <ikonia> RA_drc: if foo is in the dir bar, "find bar/ -name foo -print"
[16:23] <evanton> newPup: I think you can do it straight from the irc client
[16:23] <BlaDe^> thanks guys
[16:23] <ikonia> !register | newPup
[16:23] <ikonia> newPup: more info in the channel #freenode
[16:23] <deven_> ok uchiha thanks will try that too
[16:23] <evanton> newPup: try /nickserv help register or /quote nickserv help register and follow those guidelines
[16:24] <evanton> Uchiha_Itachi: it's not the best way if you search multiple times over the same big set of files, because it's slow
[16:25] <psichas> Easy like !2+2
[16:27] <Uchiha_Itachi> evanton: hahaha, you are right... it takes a little bit longer, but when you have 32gb RAM you stop carrying!!!
[16:27] <RA_drc> ikonia: i created a series of folders, so that the structure is like so:  test/foo/bar, and i ran "~$find /foo -name bar -print" and it is not finding those folders
[16:27] <S4nD3r> how to add envelop in panel
[16:27] <S4nD3r> it disapeared
[16:27] <S4nD3r> on my system
[16:28] <xangua> !panels | S4nD3r
[16:28] <xangua> i don't know if it still works for unity
[16:29] <S4nD3r> Not to reset
[16:29] <S4nD3r> just to add envelop
[16:29] <ratkinson> morning all!
[16:29] <Polah> S4nD3r, the envelope icon for email and suchlike?
[16:29] <ratkinson> Had a quick question about touchscreen calibration on ubuntu 11.04 cfresh install
[16:29] <S4nD3r> yes
[16:30] <Polah> S4nD3r: Right Click > Add to Panel > Notification Area
[16:30] <xangua> S4nD3r: add indicator stuff
[16:30] <trism> S4nD3r: is this in classic or unity? in classic, right click and add to panel Indicator Applet, otherwise make sure indicator-messages is installed
[16:30] <xangua> Polah: there is no notification area no more
[16:32] <trism> xangua: it is still there in natty, but unity hides most items in it by default
[16:32] <Polah> S4nD3r I meant indicator applet, not notification area.
[16:34] <_16BITBoy_> Hello ! Is anyone using e17 on ubuntu 11.04?
[16:37] <Guest52402> hello. I am running kubuntu 11.04-just installed it. I dual boot windows but my grub doesn't detect my windows partition when I run update-grub2. Any suggestions on how I could access windows?
[16:40] <gamingdroid> Any specific reasons why I should go 32bit instead of 64bit on Ubuntu Server 11.04 for a webserver?
[16:40] <Polah> gamingdroid: Application compatibility perhaps.
[16:41] <maco> gamingdroid: 32bit hardware?
[16:41] <gamingdroid> maco: I'm using linode.com and they offer 32 and 64 -bit.
[16:41] <Polah> gamingdroid: For a webserver just for that, i.e. Apache/MySQL/PHP there shouldn't be an issue with compabitility though
[16:41] <tktiddle> what happened to the "apt-add-repository" command?
[16:41] <gamingdroid> Polah: it's python/django + postgresql, etc
[16:42] <Uchiha_Itachi> tktiddle: add-repository
[16:42] <JeffJassky> Hey, guys. I'm new to server admin and I'm trying to figure out how to intentionally run out of memory as a test. Basically an induced memory leak or something.. but i'm not sure how to start. Hoping to get some suggestions in here.
[16:42] <maco> tktiddle: its not installed on servers by default, but other than that...i dont think anything happened to it
[16:42] <Pici> tktiddle: Nothing, but you need to have the python-software-properties pacakge installed.
[16:43] <gamingdroid> Does 64bit support more RAM?
[16:43] <maco> gamingdroid: yes
[16:43] <maco> gamingdroid: 32bit without PAE supports up to 4GB of RAM. with PAE, some huge number, and with 64bit an even huger number
[16:43] <dnivra> hello. I am running kubuntu 11.04-just installed it. I dual boot windows but my grub doesn't detect my windows partition when I run update-grub2. Any suggestions on how I could access windows?
[16:43] <maco> gamingdroid: though with PAE each process can still only use up to 4gb
[16:43] <gamingdroid> and my guess is most software is compiled to support 64bit... seems like 64bit is the way to go
[16:44] <Polah> maco, gamingdroid: 32-bit is ~3.2-4GB, PAE is 64GB, 64-bit is 16EB. What webserver are you using, gamingdroid?
[16:44] <Tom^> PAE is never an choiec
[16:44] <Tom^> and the one who thinks so is a moron
[16:44] <gamingdroid> planning on using both apache/modwsgi and nginx
[16:44] <ikonia> Tom^: tone it down
[16:44] <gamingdroid> Polah: ^^
[16:44] <Zol> Anyone know how I can create a new user for svn? Do I need to create a new user in ubuntu as well?
[16:44] <Tom^> http://blog.linuxolution.org/archives/117 for those even considering PAE
[16:44] <Polah> gamingdroidL: django is a webserver?
[16:45] <Tom^> read and go 64bit
[16:45] <Troy^> im having troubles with my wireless internet, if i have a torrent open it takes about 5 mins and then my wirless seems to stop, but still shows im connected to router,i have to reconnect to router to get internet back again. what could the problem be
[16:45] <gamingdroid> Polah: no, it is a web framework using python
[16:45] <S4nD3r> So
[16:45] <S4nD3r> Im back
[16:45] <Pici> gamingdroid: It will run fine on either architecture.
[16:45] <S4nD3r> Id like to add envelop at panel
[16:45] <Polah> gamingdroid: Yeah, so you need a web server to serve that. If you're using Python for coding and PostgreSQL for databasing
[16:45] <S4nD3r> Im running lucid 10.04(64 bits)
[16:46] <S4nD3r> gnome
[16:46] <Polah> S4nD3r: Add Indicator Applet to your panel
[16:46] <S4nD3r> Its added
[16:46] <Pici> !enter | S4nD3r
[16:46] <gamingdroid> Polah: I'm going to use both apache/modwsgi and nginx for webserving
[16:46] <Polah> S4nD3r: And it still doesn't show up?
[16:46] <GirlyGirl> 64 bit servers tend to have high memory demands sometimes
[16:46] <S4nD3r> oh
[16:46] <S4nD3r> Im wrong
[16:46] <S4nD3r> sorry
[16:46] <Polah> gamingdroid: nginx and Apache? Why would you use two webservers?
[16:46] <xangua> S4nD3r: reset the panel¿
[16:47] <gamingdroid> GirlyGirl: ohhh... I didn't know that. I only have 512MB RAM for now
[16:47] <S4nD3r> no no
[16:47] <S4nD3r> It was solved
[16:47] <gamingdroid> Polah: the reason is in django generally you run one server to handle all the dynamic stuff and another to handle static content.
[16:47] <Polah> GirlyGirl: Really?
[16:47] <gamingdroid> Polah: * webserver
[16:47] <Pici> GirlyGirl: I think we'd all like to see some documentation regarding your last comment.
[16:48] <evanton> Polah: yes, and 64 bit apps use more RAM
[16:48] <evanton> 64 bit pointers are longer, that adds some
[16:48] <Pici> gamingdroid: 64bits is the default architecture provided by Ubuntu for server installs. I've not seen any issues with small amounts of RAM causing issues.
[16:48] <gamingdroid> it seems reasonable, if each memory address takes up 64bit instead of 32bit it seems reasonable....
[16:48] <evanton> gamingdroid: exactly
[16:48] <Polah> gamingdroid: That seems strange. Could be beneficial, though
[16:48] <GirlyGirl> Polah: Well anything 64 has more requirements on ram, see win7 for exaple 32 bit asks 1 gig and 64 2 gig, on servers doing database work I have experienced much higher memory consumsion on 64 bit, but 64 bit also supports more ram
[16:48] <mediawork> hi
[16:49] <mediawork> anyone know of a command line utility for searching strings inside ms word documents?
[16:49] <Pici> GirlyGirl: Linux is not Windows
[16:49] <gamingdroid> Polah: it's because dynamic pages requires more heavy webserver processes, while static content is just a straight read from disk. sort of makes sense.
[16:49] <Troy^> im having troubles with my wireless internet, if i have a torrent open it takes about 5 mins and then my wirless seems to stop, but still shows im connected to router,i have to reconnect to router to get internet back again. what could the problem be
[16:49] <gnok> hello. can anyone see this message?
[16:50] <Pici> gamingdroid: Have you considered asking in #linode on OFTC?
[16:50] <Pici> gnok: yes
[16:50] <GirlyGirl> Pici: Linux too uses higher mem on 64 bit, the dbms servers I refered to were Ubuntu server
[16:50] <ikonia> gnok: sure
[16:50] <gnok> i'm on a slow internet connection so unsure if it's reaching the channel.
[16:50] <gamingdroid> Pici: I figured you guys are ubuntu specific, so no
[16:50] <Polah> gamingdroid: It would allow processing of dynamic and static content simultaneously from each process over multiple processing cores but you'd have to take into consideration communication between both processes.
[16:50] <gnok> Pici: ikonia thanks :).
[16:51] <Tom^> GirlyGirl PAE is never a choice for any sort of computer if you got 1gb of ram or more
[16:51] <Tom^> GirlyGirl http://blog.linuxolution.org/archives/117
[16:51] <gamingdroid> Polah: nope, no intercommunication necessary. it is asking for a completely independent resource alas index.php and then something.jpg
[16:51] <gamingdroid> Polah: or am I misunderstanding
[16:52] <sipior> Tom^: i don't believe GirlyGirl was suggesting it was.
[16:52] <Pici> Tom^: Not all computers can run 64 bits.
[16:52] <gamingdroid> Pici: not to question you, but out of curiosity where did you find out that 64-bit is standard for servers? it makes sense though.
[16:52] <gnok> I just installed ubuntu and grub doesn't detect windows. any suggestions on how I could boot into windows?
[16:52] <GirlyGirl> On 64 bit howerver processing speed is better, so go for 64 if you have enough ram
[16:52] <Tom^> Pici it costs about 100$ to get a dualcore  intel or amd with motherboard and ram that can handle it
[16:52] <Polah> gamingdroid: Of course there's communication between the two processes. The webserver sending the content, lets say Apache, would need to offload the dynamic parts for processing to nginx, then nginx would need to send the data back to Apache to be served to the client.
[16:53] <JayPro> first time setting up raid here... i have two 1TB sata harddrives installed. i went into the bios and selected RAID as the configuration. when i rebooted, i pressed control-s to take me to the raid utility. i set up both harddrives to say raid 1, copied over contents of disk 1 to disk 2 (which should have been nothing), then rebooted to ubuntu installation. however, i was expecting see 1 harddrive, but ubuntu sees two. how do i fix this?
[16:53] <Pici> gamingdroid: I'm just referring to what http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server/download offers
[16:53] <Polah> Tom^: But that doesn't mean every system owner has or will spend $100 to get the hardware required to run 64-bit.
[16:53] <Tom^> Polah but they have to get over 4gb ram?
[16:54] <Polah> Tom^: If they have <4GB then they might not. Anyone that has >4GB and has a 32-bit system I will agree is somewhat foolish.
[16:54] <evanton> mediawork: you could try antiword, but I don't know if it supports the newest doc formats
[16:54] <JayPro> anyone? hrmm...
[16:55] <gamingdroid> Polah: The way it works is the browser requests www.domain.com, apache responds with a dynamically generated html file. the browser parses it, request the images, css files (all those are static)... unless you are talking about when an incoming request, how do you know which webserver it goes to?
[16:56] <newPup> evanton: I'm all signed up now, thanks.  And thank the other user, I don't recall their name.
[16:57] <Polah> gamingdroid: A client will request say a login form that uses Python for it's backend. Apache can serve the CSS and HTML itself to generate the form, but when the client then fills it out and sends it off and you have a second webserver for handling dynamic content, Apache would receive the client's data, send it to nginx which would then process that data and compare it to the data in a database. If it's correct then nginx will say it's oka
[16:57] <Polah> y, generate a login token and suchlike, pass that back to Apache which will then send that back to the client
[16:58] <gnok> I just installed ubuntu and grub doesn't detect windows. any suggestions on how I could boot into windows?
[16:59] <Polah> gnok: Run grub-update
[16:59] <gamingdroid> Polah: when a request is for a login form, then the actual form page is generated by apache/modwsgi, but the css/images are requested (possibly through a different domain) are handled by nginx
[16:59] <REK_007> gnok, repair the windows bootloader using windows disk and then use easybcd to setup linux option. if thwat Polah said fails :)
[17:00] <share> guys
[17:00] <gamingdroid> Polah: when the credentials is sent, apache processes the request, a success webpage is then presented to the user, but the images and css is still served by nginx
[17:00] <gnok> Polah: I tried that-doesn't work.
[17:00] <share> after choosing correct keyboard layout the keyboard is still in english im using alternate .iso!
[17:00] <share> alternate install
[17:00] <gnok> REK_007: that would mean the windows bootloader will be used and not grub?
[17:00] <REK_007> gnok, yes.
[17:01] <Polah> gnok: You could try reinstalling GRUB entirely
[17:01] <share> Help.
[17:01] <REK_007> gnok, since grub 2 is easier to identify hence i specified that method . after you select linux on windows boot loader you will be directed to GRUB . you can choose to skip it by changing settings on ubuntu
[17:01] <Polah> share: The keyboard layout you choose when intalling Ubuntu is for the install, not the LiveCD.
[17:02] <gnok> Polah: the command to install grub is "grub-install /dev/sda" right? the partition shouldn't be specified right?
[17:03] <GirlyGirl> gnok: There are two ways, install grub to device or to partition
[17:03] <gnok> REK_007: the windows bootloader is an option but I'd still like to use grub :). is that possible?
[17:03] <alex--> !webmin
[17:03] <alex--> !virtualmin
[17:03] <Polah> gnok: grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/sdX, change /boot to whatever the directory you want the files to go to, it's /boot by default and set sdX to whatever device you want to install GRUB to.##
[17:03] <bukowski> is anyone using airfoil on ubuntu?
[17:03] <gnok> GirlyGirl: I though it's not recommended to install to a partition?
[17:04] <GirlyGirl> gnok: That is correct
[17:04] <GirlyGirl> gnok: Unless you have a special reason to do so of course
[17:04] <Bilz> help me please
[17:05] <comfortsuites> what's the command to restore the panels to their original default state?
[17:05] <gnok> GirlyGirl: under what circumstance would installing on a partition make sense?
[17:05] <Bilz> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16658950/Screenshot-1.png <- the open windows are all at the top of the desktop, rather than the bottom. how do i move it
[17:05] <Polah> !reset | comfortsuites
[17:05] <comfortsuites> and how do i prevent users from changing the panels ?
[17:05] <xangua> !panels | comfortsuites
[17:05] <xangua> lock them comfortsuites
[17:05] <Pici> !lockdown | comfortsuites some links of interest
[17:05] <GirlyGirl> gnok: on a computer that has efi instead of bios
[17:05] <xangua> via gconf editor or a tool called ubuntu tweak comfortsuites
[17:05] <REK_007> gnok, well then you need to add the windows option on grub on yourself
[17:06] <IdleOne> xangua: or by right clicking on them and selecting lock panel
[17:06] <IdleOne> no need for ubuntu tweak
[17:06] <Bilz> thanks xangua
[17:06] <xangua> ok
[17:06] <Bilz> worked a charm
[17:06] <gnok> Polah: I tried that command. It didn't work. The windows partition wasn't detected.
[17:07] <Bisu[Shield]> im running ubuntu 11 whenever I type make I get an error: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop., do i need to install anything to get make and make install to work?
[17:08] <evanton> Bisu[Shield]: make looks for a Makefile in current directory
[17:08] <xangua> Bisu[Shield]: extract the source and to to the source directory
[17:08] <glebihan> Bisu[Shield], you have to run the make command from the folder where you put the stuff you want to make
[17:08] <xangua> go to*
[17:08] <Uchiha_Itachi>  ./configure first most of the times
[17:09] <Bisu[Shield]> I am doing that
[17:09] <glebihan> Bisu[Shield], what are you trying to compile ?
[17:09] <Pici> Bisu[Shield]: You'll need to install the build-essential package first, and read the README and/or INSTALL files that the source comes with.
[17:09] <riddler> does anybody know where/how I can make AbiWord to view docx files? I tried searching for a plugin, even went to abiword website but all I see are the list of plugin available but not actually the d/l link. help.
[17:10] <xangua> riddler: better use ODF format ;)
[17:10] <S4nD3r> how discover my wireless card in my notebook?
[17:10] <xangua> MS office also supports ODF by the way
[17:11] <glebihan> riddler, quoted from abiword's website "Note that plugins are not shipped separately anymore, but are shipped in the main AbiWord installer that is available on our download page. Plugins can be selected during the installation of AbiWord."
[17:11] <gnok> REK_007: http://paste.ubuntu.com/656519/. Is this entry right?
[17:11] <Bisu[Shield]> ok cool, new question, i am running gnome 3 on ubuntu 11 is there a widget that I can use to link google todo tasks?  maybe someone that works with evolution?
[17:12] <Guest8178> Hi, is there a way to change file associations in GNOME 2.30 ?
[17:12] <Pici> Obama: Can you pick a nick and stick with it please? Preferably something that isn't going to upset people?
[17:12] <riddler> glebihan, well the thing is abiword comes pre-installed so ill just remove it and re-install using the abiword from their website ?
[17:12] <th0r> Guest8178: they are called mimetypes I believe. Check into how to change those
[17:12] <Troy^> im having very big issues with my wireless card AR9285 dropping connections
[17:13] <Obama> Pici: I am trying
[17:13] <GirlyGirl> Troy^: I have this exact card
[17:13] <riddler> xangua: i use of Word2007 on my desktop, ubuntu on my laptop as a backup when im not at home, so yeah
[17:13] <xangua> yeah what¿ o_O
[17:13] <gnok> http://paste.ubuntu.com/656519/. Could someone check and let me know if this entry for windows is correct? I can verify the UUID is right.
[17:13] <Guest8178> th0r, That's exactly what I did. I have edited /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache and done various .desktop file wizardry. It still doesn't work at all
[17:13] <Troy^> GirlyGirl, do you have any problems with it
[17:14] <xangua> Bisu[Shield]: try when gnome3 is supported ;)
[17:14] <GirlyGirl> Troy^: in my case it was a hardware issue, inside the notebook I connected a second antanae to solve this problem
[17:14] <anli_> Is it easy to fold an image inside a cylinder? I want to use that as a skybox
[17:14] <glebihan> riddler, I don't use Abiword but I would say that the plugins should also be already installed
[17:14] <anli_> There are a lot of images that are taken with panorama mode
[17:14] <Pici> anli_: Try #compiz
[17:14] <GirlyGirl> Troy^: there are two antanae slots labeled ant1 and ant2
[17:14] <Troy^> GirlyGirl, im sitting beside the router almost, depends what laptop you have
[17:14] <anli_> wow, its the wrong channel, I should try #blender instead
[17:14] <quackaduck> Troy^ and GirlyGirl: same here. connection drops from time to time, especially when downloading
[17:14] <th0r> Guest8178: well, that is the extent of my knowledge of gnome. In xfce I just change it in the file's properties
[17:15] <REK_007> gnok, seems right if you got the UID right :)
[17:15] <jnsl_> is there anyway to get unity appmenu for xubuntu ?
[17:15] <yanick> hi, simple question about cron; when executing the command "crontab <file>", is the file only needed to "copy" the tasks to the user cron tab? or is <file> (becomes) _the_ cron tab task file?
[17:15] <GirlyGirl> Troy^: Asus 1005ha but no it works fine and always perfect near the rooter, the ant2 was just to boost low signals
[17:15] <xangua> jnsl_: there is a global menu applet, it has an applet for gnome and xfce
[17:16] <GirlyGirl> quackaduck: You have the latest Ubuntu release
[17:16] <GirlyGirl> ?
[17:16] <jnsl_> xangu gnome2-globalmenu ?
[17:16] <jnsl_> xangua
[17:16] <Pici> yanick: I believe  it replaces the current crontab with the new file.
[17:16] <Troy^> GirlyGirl, im pretty sure its a driver issue
[17:16] <xangua> jnsl_: http://code.google.com/p/gnome2-globalmenu
[17:16] <tsimpson> yanick: the contents of 'file' is copped to the users cron file
[17:16] <GirlyGirl> Troy^: which version of ubuntu?
[17:17] <Pici> yanick: tsimpson said it better.
[17:17] <jnsl_> xangua there is no ppa for natty think
[17:17] <KPG> Would I have to port forward in order to access an Apache server running on Ubuntu from a computer outside a LAN?
[17:17] <lixxus> anyone got switchable graphics working on ubuntu ?
[17:17] <jnsl_> could i use a ppa for karmic on natty ?
[17:17] <gnok> REK_007: it doesn't work. said insufficient arguments. anyway I can't confirm now cos after doing the grub install, I can't boot into ubuntu either-grub doesn't get displayed either.
[17:17] <xangua> jnsl_: there is the source code
[17:18] <gnok> ahhh welll I think I'll just ask them to try repairing the windows bootloader. thanks a lot REK_007 Polah and GirlyGirl!
[17:18] <GirlyGirl> Troy^: Ah yes I remember I have a solution 1 moment
[17:18] <tsimpson> KPG: if the computer is behind a router, usually you will need to forward port 80 (TCP) to the internal IP of that computer running apache
[17:18] <Polah> KPG: You'd need to port forward to access the server if it's behind a router. Port forward on the router it's behind
[17:18] <REK_007> gnok, well you cna hit up the same later :) people who know it can help you . as far as my knowledge was there i helped :)
[17:19] <GirlyGirl> Troy^: Open Terminal create a new file Create a new file /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf with the command "sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf"
[17:19] <share> Polah: .. solution was easy I selected keymap (f3) and chose my keyboard. bye
[17:19] <GirlyGirl> Troy^: Tell me when done
[17:19] <S4nD3r> http://pastebin.com/427tin44 here is my lspci
[17:19] <KPG> Polah: If I installed apache, is port 80 automatically forwarded?
[17:19] <yanick> tsimpson, Pici, because I'm executing a script that parses some in memory data, create a temp file and execute "crontab <file>", then delete the temp file, but when I do a crontab -l again, there are no task, and I was wondering if the problem was within the script, or with the fact that I was deleting the temp file
[17:20] <ratkinson> i'm running ubuntu 11.04 on a touchscreen pc. I have the touchscreen drivers working but my x is y and y is x AND calibration is off a bit. Ive tried the xinput_calibrator but is makes the mouse jump all over the place. As it is now the mouse works without jumping around but like i said calibration is off. Basicly, I need to swap axes and calibrate without using xinput_calibrator. Any ideas?
[17:20] <Polah> KPG: No. You need to go into the router settings and set up port forwarding to forward requests on port 80 to the system running Apache.
[17:20] <wayne> hello everyone
[17:20] <icarus_> Hi I stripped down an ubuntu 10.04 iso and  i want to put it on the company server so that client pcs can just boot from it using pxe.. any ideas
[17:20] <ratkinson> hi wayne
[17:20] <GirlyGirl> Troy^: ...
[17:21] <wayne> how do i improve my battery life with ubuntu 10.10 i already have powertop and jupiter
[17:21] <Abhijit> icarus_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto
[17:22] <ratkinson> anyone know anything about touchscreens and ubuntu 11.04?
[17:22] <Troy^> see look i just got a disconnect
[17:22] <xangua> i like to touch screens :D
[17:22] <Abhijit> ratkinson, just askt the real question with detials
[17:22] <Pici> yanick: It shouldn't matter that you're deleting the tempfile.  I'd check the exit code from the crontab command after you run it, as well as making sure that you're checking the right users' crontabs.
[17:22] <ratkinson> i did...
[17:23] <ratkinson> i'm running ubuntu 11.04 on a touchscreen pc. I have the touchscreen drivers working but my x is y and y is x AND calibration is off a bit. Ive tried the xinput_calibrator but is makes the mouse jump all over the place. As it is now the mouse works without jumping around but like i said calibration is off. Basicly, I need to swap axes and calibrate without using xinput_calibrator. Any ideas?
[17:23] <log_null> What is the function of /etc/init directory/
[17:23] <icarus_> Abhijit, thanks
[17:23] <Pici> log_null: It contains scripts for upstart to use. You may want to look at http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[17:23] <Polah> log_null: Contains scripts for programs that are to be started on boot.
[17:23] <bukowski> anyone know how to play audio on airport-express from ubuntu?
[17:23] <jnsl_> xangua it says i need libgnome-menu >= 2.16.0 even though i have libgnome-menu2
[17:24] <log_null> Pici , Polah : Thanks
[17:24] <RA_drc> ratkinson: you can't rotate your pc 90 degrees?
[17:24] <yanick> Pici, yes, I can add some jobs via the console, and the script picks them up just fine. It's upon updating that it executes "crontab -r" prior, thus deleting everything, and then updating the temp file, etc. I'll investigate my sscript then
[17:24] <ratkinson> RA_drc: my x and y would still need to be swapped
[17:25] <share> someone care to explain me why we need eg 250mb for /boot ?
[17:25] <Tom^> share you wont need more then 100mb
[17:26] <share> Tom^: mine uses 21mb
[17:26] <Olotila> which raid controller is good for linux? 4 disks
[17:26] <Tom^> share im using 70mb with 3 custom kernels in there
[17:26] <Olotila> 100-300e
[17:26] <share> i'll use 100 tks
[17:26] <yanick> Pici, ok. I had to add an extra \n to after then last job (an extra empty line)
[17:27] <JoeR1> I need a command to help me find out the device name of a USB connected webcam and LS is NOT what I need
[17:28] <share> dammit. windows is using 3 primary partitions and i need 4th to primary so I cant setup LVM
[17:28] <Pici> JoeR1: You may be able to see it in dmesg right after you plug in the device
[17:28] <S4nD3r> Do you know how to install a wireless card Intel Centrino 6230 in notebook, running Ubuntu 10.04, kernel 2.6.32?
[17:28] <JoeR1> I am actually trying to find out the /dev listing but I don't think that was given when i plugged it in
[17:29] <S4nD3r> Just installing kernel 2.6.38 ????
[17:29] <gulzar> After messing with Debian, Knoppix, Unity2D, Xfce and Lxde I am back to Ubutnu...Now I want to install Lxde just as it is in Debian or better in Knoppix. I mean the proper one. How to do it?
[17:29] <Polah> share: I thiought only the partition that you install Windows on has to be primary. Data storage partitions could be logical.
[17:30] <GirlyGirl> S4nD3r: Update your kernel
[17:30] <ThinkT510> !lubuntu | gulzar
[17:30] <S4nD3r> how?
[17:31] <Pici> gulzar: You may want to take a look at the package descriptions for lxde and lxde-core, depending on what extra stuff you want.
[17:31] <GirlyGirl> S4nD3r: Connect an ethernet cable, then update using software center
[17:31] <krzys123> Hi I have random screen freezes on my desktop for few seconds. Then whole works but slower. My graphic card is Intel 82845G. What can I do?
[17:31] <nsadmin> what is the postgres situation in natty? are all versions officially supported by pg devs available?
[17:32] <nsadmin> incl 8.3
[17:32] <ikonia> !info postgres-sql
[17:32] <gulzar> Pici: I want Lubutu+Ubuntu. Ubuntu is there with Unity no interested in lxde. Its fast, but want to use Ubutnu softwares in it so upgrading from Ubuntu....
[17:32] <oCean> nsadmin: packages.ubuntu.com
[17:32] <gulzar> Pici: *so
[17:32] <GirlyGirl> gulzar: apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[17:33] <Pici> nsadmin: I don't see 8.3 in Natty, last release it was in was Hardy (8.04)
[17:33] <ikonia> !info postgresql-8.4| nsadmin
[17:33] <gulzar> GirlyGirl: expected something like that..... Ok :)
[17:33] <ikonia> how annoying, nsadmin it's 8.4
[17:33] <nsadmin> right now more interested in 8.3
[17:34] <nsadmin> can I just get the debianized source and build the packages?
[17:34] <ThinkT510> gulzar: whichever ubuntu you choose, they all use the same repositories
[17:34] <ikonia> nsadmin: out of interest why do you need 8.3 ?
[17:34] <nsadmin> because the app I'm running on a remote uses 8.3
[17:34] <ikonia> nsadmin: can it not use 8.4 ?
[17:35] <nsadmin> and I can't upgrade it yet
[17:35] <nsadmin> no
[17:35] <BentSpace> Evolution keeps crashing on me for the last few days. I'm on Ubuntu 11.04 and it's been working fine for a few months now.  I start up it checks for email, then when I go to click on some emails, it will sometimes open some of them, then it freezes and then closes itself.  I do have it checking 14 different email accounts.  Any ideas?
[17:35] <share> windows is using 3 primary partitions.. if i use the 4th than I can add logical partitions?
[17:35] <gulzar> ThinkT510: but wth slow internet (cell phone).. I want to keep the softwares of ubuntu just the desktop to be changed.
[17:35] <share> then*
[17:35] <Polah> BentSpace: Consider settingsit to not check all those inboxes and see if it functions
[17:35] <ikonia> share: i fyou make the 4th logical, yes, if you make the 4th primary, no
[17:35] <nsadmin> the later versions of the toolkit can, but I'm not prepared to do that upgrade, too much uncertainty and too much work and time
[17:35] <nsadmin> it's complicated :)
[17:35] <unkmar> linphonec on ubuntu 6.06 server.  Sometimes the audio works and other times it doesn't.  I haven't been able to figure out why.
[17:36] <gulzar> ThinkT510: I went for Lxde in Debian and Knoppix and it performs BEST so want the same environment
[17:36] <GirlyGirl> BentSpace: You could restore evolution to defaults then start fresh?
[17:36] <ikonia> nsadmin: that's fair enough, I was just looking at options for you
[17:36] <nsadmin> but it's no secret, if you have further interest, you can poke around openacs.org
[17:36] <share> ikonia: "Select “Primary”. Since we’re using LVM later, we’ll not run into the famous 64byte MBR partition problem."
[17:36] <ikonia> share: what ?
[17:37] <BentSpace> GirlyGirl: How do you do that?
[17:37] <share> ikonia: im install ubuntu with encryption, website says I need to make /boot partition primary
[17:37] <ThinkT510> gulzar: fair enough, i just thought having lubuntu would be more lightweight than having ubuntu + unity + lxde
[17:37] <ikonia> share: well, you have a problem then
[17:37] <share> windows uses 3 primary..
[17:37] <GirlyGirl> BentSpace: "sudo apt-purge evolution" then "sudo apt-get install evolution" You will lose all settings!
[17:38] <nsadmin> earlier version of that toolkit running wgbh.org and scorecard.org, more recent versions running greenpeace.org and berkleemusic.com
[17:38] <borillion_> hey guys Im seeing httpd  maxing my processor
[17:38] <JoeR1> ok I need to figure out what my webcam is listed as in the form of /dev/_______
[17:38] <ThinkT510> share: i guess at least one of those partitions is a factory restore partition
[17:38] <th0r> JoeR1: did you check dmesg after plugging in the webcam?
[17:38] <share> ThinkT510: there is a boot partition
[17:39] <nsadmin> anyway, thanks for your interest and your attention
[17:39] <JoeR1> yeh, I got nothing
[17:39] <JoeR1> let me try again real quick
[17:40] <ThinkT510> share: i only let windows have 1 partition, i also have a storage partition (but that is logical, not primary)
[17:40] <ratkinson> Does anyone know how to swap mouse axis on ubuntu 11.04 I've tried the swap axes option in edev config...
[17:40] <borillion_> JoeR1, you could also try ls /dev/v*
[17:40] <BentSpace> GirlyGirl: So I will need to setup all my 14 gmail accounts again?  Any way to speed that up?  Evolution doesn't make it so easy.  Much easier and faster on Thunderbird.
[17:40] <gulzar> ThinkT510: Sure. I have 1 GB of RAM with acceleration so no problem with Unity but I am interested in speed and ubuntu is installed on my external HDD for portability. I want Lxde so to use it on old PCs in College. But want to use Firefox Libreoffice and installing them on pure LXDE means lots of MBs which with my cell phone will take days to install so wanted to use LXDE. If problem persists them will PURGE unity. ;)
[17:40] <borillion_> see if anything shows there
[17:40] <nuzair> hi guys i m using xubuntu 10.10 but when i click on volume control it opens up mixer instead of letting me open up the volume
[17:40] <nsadmin> also...
[17:40] <JoeR1> Specifically I want the mic that is built into the webcam
[17:41] <GirlyGirl> I just tried unity today and the menu's are a bit strange; the text on the menu's especially the greyed out text is not really visible, is this normal or is my unity malfunctioning. Note unity wouldn't run at fist under Ubuntu unity session I had to run unity manually then it worked
[17:41] <share> ThinkT510: it came from factory
[17:41] <ThinkT510> gulzar: good to see you have a plan, hope it works for you
[17:41] <KNUBBIG> Hey, I got a problem with proftpd. I followed this guide: http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52760 to make it work with ISPConfig and now it lets me log in but instantly loggs me out again with a 421 error message, in the logs nothing can be seen but 'trying to chroot' and then 'session closed'. Any help?
[17:41] <tazztroy> hi
[17:41] <nsadmin> for the moment unity isn't working out for me; if I aptitude remove unity, will it take everything away if I also ran aptitude install ubuntu-desktop?
[17:42] <share> ThinkT510: there is a boot partition (primary), system partition (primary) and data partition (primary). why the hell they installed like this
[17:42] <ThinkT510> share: i run multiple OS's so the first thing i do is wipe everything and install windows afresh with just one partition (i hate the setups they give you out of the box)
[17:43] <share> ThinkT510: yeah I thought about that but because im not the only one to use the computer.. i didnt
[17:44] <nuzair> hi guys i m using xubuntu 10.10 but when i click on volume control it opens up mixer instead of letting me open up the volume
[17:44] <gulzar> ThinkT510: hope so. I make lots of plans like copying Arch from VB, installing Arch on pendrive, Using all envionments on Debian, and many more but This one should work.    Lets see what is the result. One more thing- In Knoppix Lxde+Compiz works like anything but here on Ubuntu it never....Not even on Debian +Lxde. with mint gnome some basic effects works. Why is it so?
[17:44] <th0r> nuzair: if you right click on the volume icon in the panel you can configure what will open on a left click
[17:45] <nuzair> left click command is xfce4-mixer
[17:45] <nuzair> do u know what i can change it to?
[17:46] <ThinkT510> gulzar: i'm more of an xfce guy, never been big on compiz so i couldn't tell you
[17:46] <share> ThinkT510: if I delete data partition and make it logical windows will recognize it right..
[17:46] <th0r> nuzair: I don't know of a 'volume
[17:46] <ThinkT510> share: yes, i have a logical ntfs partition and windows sees it fine
[17:46] <riddler> is it possible to install only libreoffice Word and not the bundle?
[17:46] <th0r> ' app....I have always used the mixer
[17:47] <phoenixsampras> help when i run "postgres createuser"  says, command not found, why??
[17:48] <gulzar> ThinkT510: Ok. then is it possible to have nice look for apps like office. earlier I was using Xubuntu but Libreoffice looked like Windows95. I mean something like as gnome apps on KDE.similarly Gnome apps on Xfce?
[17:48] <gulzar> riddler: yes.
[17:48] <oCean> phoenixsampras: is the command in your search PATH?
[17:48] <gulzar> riddler: choose only writer
[17:49] <oCean> phoenixsampras: err, evidently not. I meant, is /usr/lib/postgresql/8.4/bin in your search PATH?
[17:49] <gulzar> riddler: but it will install core also...means the install size will be big. But if you install other parts later the install size will be smallet then the first install as core part is also installed in first install
[17:50] <freeone3000> Okay. I've just installed my Broadcom STB internet drivers from System > Adminstration > Hardware Drivers. However, the networking icon in the top-right now says "Networking disabled". I've tried enabling pan0 with the same instructions as eth0, but no DHCPOFFER. What should I try next?
[17:50] <ThinkT510> gulzar: i see what you mean, it looks fine to me under my arch install though; prehaps it is a theme setting somewhere
[17:50] <phoenixsampras> oCean: well seems not, how to add it plz?
[17:50] <riddler> gulzar, thnx you
[17:50] <gulzar> ThinkT510: ok...
[17:50] <oCean> phoenixsampras: If you're not using 11.04, then check the actual path (may be 8.3). then run  export PATH=$PATH:/usr/lib/postgresql/8.4/bin
[17:51] <gulzar> riddler: anytime
[17:51] <phoenixsampras> oCean: Im on 11.04
[17:51] <gulzar> ThinkT510: Thank You!
[17:51] <oCean> phoenixsampras: ok, then the above line should work. To make it persistent, add that line to your ~/.bashrc
[17:51] <ThinkT510> gulzar: no worries :)
[17:51] <phoenixsampras> oCean: phoenixsampras@xman:/usr/lib/postgresql/8.4/bin$ ./postgres createuser postgres: invalid argument: "createuser"
[17:52] <oCean> phoenixsampras: right, I'm sorry - I don't know about the correct syntax for postgres.
[17:52] <freeone3000> phoenixsampras: "CREATE ROLE".
[17:52] <NCS_One> hi
[17:52] <NCS_One> how can I reload .inputrc?
[17:53] <oCean> NCS_One: source .inputrc or even . .inputrc
[17:53] <freeone3000> Actually, *should* it be pan0, or should it be eth1? I seem to have both.
[17:54] <NCS_One> oCean: thanks
[17:54] <ejo> Halp!!  I somehow ended up in a Ubuntu/Compiz/Unity session with no menu, thus no graphical/mouse way to log out.  I mean there is no icon at the top of the screen for settings, or anything.  I was only able to get here and ask this question by Alt-Ctrl-T to open a terminal, then running an IRC client.  Can anyone tell me how to get back to Gnome Classic after this mistake?
[17:54] <share> ThinkT510: so just to clarify me.. I need a free partition table in order to create a logical one?
[17:55] <ThinkT510> share: you can have 4 primary partitions, you need at least 1 free to create an extended partition into which you make logical partitions
[17:55] <BentSpace> Polah: I went in and set each account to not check for new mail and everything was fine till I went to open my emails, it let me read a couple and then it froze my whole computer for a few minutes and then closed when I click on the inbox of another account.
[17:56] <ejo> When I say "somehow" (sorry that was unclear) I mean I tried logging in on a regular Ubuntu session for a change, when normally I use Gnome Classic.  Unfortunately Compiz+Unity can't handle my vertically oriented monitors, so for that or some other reason now I'm stuck in Compiz/Unity with no icons for shutdown/logout/etc.
[17:57] <share> ThinkT510: I cannot create an extended partition if I am currently using all 4 primary partitions right
[17:57] <ThinkT510> share: correct
[17:57] <Polah> ThinkT510, share: Isn't there a limit of four primaries and an unlimited number of extended?
[17:57] <nsadmin> oh, this is the text one,,,
[17:58] <share> ThinkT510: http://joernfranz.net/2011/01/20/installing-ubuntu-10-10-with-full-disk-encryption/ im using this guide. it says I need a primary to make encrypted logical volumes but windows is using 3 primary :S
[17:58] <ThinkT510> Polah: well there is a limit to logical partitions but you are unlikely to reach it unless you have a uge disk
[17:58] <ThinkT510> huge
[17:58] <ejo> I think I may just need to sudo killall Xorg
[17:58] <share> ThinkT510: so I need to delete data partition (primary) and create it again as extended?
[17:59] <drag0nz> hey guys, when i type "ls la" it shows this "mediawiki.conf -> /etc/mediawiki/apache.conf" and its screwing with my apache2 configuration, how can i remove it?
[17:59] <bradj> Empathy is showing an empty drop-down box for account type when trying to add chat accounts, anyone seen this before?
[18:00] <nsadmin> there, that's a little better
[18:00] <drag0nz> anyone? this is kind of urgent
[18:00] <ThinkT510> share: you have 3 ntfs partitions? do you have any other ones?
[18:00] <NCS_One> how can I bind a key to esc?
[18:01] <share> ThinkT510: yeah 3 ntfs.. and I need to create one unencrypted for /boot as primary but then I cant make logical volumes
[18:01] <MarkShuttlewort> drag0nz: Delete the symbolic link mediawiki.conf. You can always re-add it
[18:01] <th0r> drag0nz: it is hard to determine from what you entered, but it looks like the mediawiki.conf is just a link to the apache.conf
[18:01] <Polah> share: You don't need a primary for /boot
[18:01] <share> Polah: u again.. lol yes I NEED in this case
[18:02] <ThinkT510> share: ahh, i see, can't you make an extended partition then put the boot partition in there?
[18:02] <share> ThinkT510: the tutorial says no
[18:02] <Polah> share: Why does it need to be primary? If it's for GRUB, it doesn't require a primary. Windows is the only system and bootloader that requires a primary because it's smart like that.
[18:02] <drag0nz> MarkShuttlewort, th0r, thing is i dont have mediawiki.conf anymore.
[18:02] <drag0nz> and now apache is refusing to start
[18:02] <splanquart_> hi all
[18:02] <share> Polah: Select “Primary”. Since we’re using LVM later, we’ll not run into the famous 64byte MBR partition problem.
[18:03] <ThinkT510> share: i've never tried setting up lvm or encrypted partitions so i can't help you with that
[18:03] <share> ThinkT510: exactly and the guy on the website says it needs to primary
[18:03] <th0r> drag0nz: if I were to guess, mediawiki reconfigured apache to look in /etc/mediawiki for the apache.conf file. You will probably have to find where that is defined and change it back
[18:03] <share> because of that problem
[18:03] <splanquart_> can i use debian-multimedia in my source.list or there is a better way to install ffmpeg 0.8.1 on ubuntu 11.04?
[18:05] <w3bcrawler> hey.. i installed pygame via synaptic.. can't use it in python.. it can't find the module.. anyone have any idea why?
[18:05] <th0r> splanquart_: I have seen warnings to be very careful using dmm with debian, and have personal experience to support that warning.
[18:05] <kvarley> Using Quickly how do I add the deb icon? So when the deb is opened in the Software Centre the icon appears?
[18:06] <share> ThinkT510: "How to Avoid 200MB Hidden System Partition From Been Created During Windows 7 Installation" means I dont need it? lol
[18:06] <Tigger__> hi
[18:06] <ThinkT510> share: windows need 1 ntfs partition, thats it and that is all i give it
[18:07] <share> ThinkT510: lol I know that.
[18:07] <share> ThinkT510: im saying it comes with 3.. the normal would be 2 or 1
[18:07] <b0ot> My keyboard isn't noticed until too late in the boot process to get into the bios.. anyway to fix that?
[18:07] <share> I am not sure if I need that /boot thing
[18:07] <KNUBBIG> It seems that pure-ftp does require a valid shell to allow logins, any idea how to prevent this?
[18:07] <ikonia> b0ot: that your hardware, as the bios is before the boot system
[18:07] <ThinkT510> share: if you get rid of it, you won't be able to do a factory reinstall (i never need that feature so i got rid of it)
[18:08] <splanquart_> th0r : You make me not recommend using dmm on ubuntu then?
[18:08] <ikonia> b0ot: if your system isn't seeing the keyboard before it boots, that's a problem with your hardware
[18:08] <b0ot> hmm
[18:08] <ThinkT510> share: if you have your own windows install disk i don't see the point of using up a primary partition for factory restore
[18:08] <share> ThinkT510: I did a hdd recovery
[18:08] <b0ot> ikonia, I can use the keyboard after it boots
[18:08] <ikonia> b0ot: so ?
[18:08] <b0ot> just not to hit "delete"
[18:09] <b0ot> in the boot process
[18:09] <ikonia> b0ot: your problem is before it boots, which is not an ubuntu issue
[18:09] <th0r> splanquart_: personally I would not use it in ubuntu. I don't think there is anything there that you cannot find in a legit ubuntu repo
[18:09] <share> ThinkT510: laptop didnt come with windows cd
[18:09] <b0ot> alright
[18:09] <b0ot> thanks
[18:09] <Gunni> ls: cannot access mount: Transport endpoint is not connected
[18:09] <Gunni> d????????? ? ?     ?        ?                ? mount
[18:09] <Gunni> what can i do?
[18:10] <ThinkT510> share: bottom line is, its up to you whether you get rid of the partition
[18:10] <ikonia> Gunni: is that a remote mount
[18:10] <share> ThinkT510: you are telling me I cant reinstall the windows I paid for because it didnt come with CD?
[18:11] <share> if I delete the boot partition
[18:11] <ThinkT510> share: thats why they put the factory partition there, you could call them and request a cd
[18:11] <ikonia> share: you need a windows CD to re-apply the windows bootloader
[18:11] <share> damn,
[18:11] <Gunni> yes ikonia, i just managed to fix it, sudo umount mount
[18:12] <KM0201> i thought there was a way to install a WIndows MBR, from an ubuntu live cd.
[18:12] <ldr> share yeah and you could have made the cd from the windows with some kind of tool which is always their ....
[18:12] <ikonia> KM0201: depends where it's gone
[18:12] <share> ldr: I did a recovery
[18:13] <ldr> okay shouldnt the recovery be able to do that
[18:13] <share> I think ill try
[18:13] <ldr> are you the guy with the x200?
[18:13] <KM0201> i thought a recovery would rewrite the MBR.
[18:13] <share> ldr: it's 3 dvds
[18:13] <ldr> oh okay
[18:13] <ikonia> KM0201: it's a file created by windows, how could an ubuntu tool write it if it's gone
[18:13] <share> but I think it's not windows lol
[18:13] <KM0201> ikonia: i know i read that somewhere.
[18:14] <ikonia> KM0201: if you have the windows bootloader, you can re-apply it using ubuntu, if it's gone, you can't
[18:14] <ikonia> KM0201: that said its much easier to use the windows recovery cd
[18:14] <js_> can i install restricted drivers via the command line?
[18:14] <js_> i get no sound on a new generation intel chipset
[18:15] <KM0201> ikonia: share http://www.arsgeek.com/2008/01/15/how-to-fix-your-windows-mbr-with-an-ubuntu-livecd/
[18:16] <NCS_One> how can I bind a key to esc?
[18:16] <ldr> js_ you can add the restricted repos and then install with any apt tool you like
[18:16] <ldr> NCS_One maybe xmodmap
[18:16] <KM0201> !info ms-sys
[18:16] <ikonia> KM0201: thats not the MS windows boot loader,
[18:16] <ldr> like synaptic or whatever
[18:16] <KM0201> hmm
[18:16] <KM0201> that seems to suggest differently.
[18:16] <needhelp1> can somone show me how to copy a file with cp on terminal? cp filename /Desktop   ?
[18:17] <MarkShuttlewort> needhelp1: man cp
[18:17] <ikonia> KM0201: it's not "the" windows boot loader
[18:17] <th0r> needhelp1: that should work
[18:17] <ldr> needhelp1 maybe more like cp file /home/<username>/Desktop
[18:17] <GirlyGirl> needhelp1: cp /path/filetocopy /path/pastelocation/file
[18:17] <NCS_One> ldr: on inputrc
[18:17] <th0r> ldr: right....missed that <smile>
[18:17] <KM0201> ikonia: it's a compatible one however, which will make your windows boot, then you can do a restore of the MBR>
[18:17] <ldr> needhelp1  i quite sure their is no folder /Desktop
[18:18] <needhelp1> MarkShuttlewort, th0r ldr GirlyGirl im having issues trying to find my direct file paths to use in the CLI to copy the files
[18:18] <ldr> needhelp1 cwd
[18:18] <twana> Hello everyone.
[18:18] <ldr> shows you where you are
[18:18] <twana> I need some help.
[18:18] <azathanai> I need some Grup2 help - just installed a clean 11.04, and used mbr on /dev/sda - however, it appears the bios and possible also the live CD are detecting that the mbr is actually on /dev/sdb
[18:18] <ThinkT510> needhelp1: ~/Desktop
[18:18] <th0r> needhelp1: pwd
[18:18] <ldr> oh sorry yes pwd of course
[18:18] <GirlyGirl> needhelp1: you use cd to chose a directory to navigate to and ls to list all files and folders in currst directory
[18:18] <needhelp1> ThinkT510, what does the tilda mean, the ~ ?
[18:19] <th0r> ldr: now we're even <smile>
[18:19] <ldr> :)
[18:19] <azathanai> In the past I've been able to fix this by getting into grub and doing a map /dev/sdb /dev/sda map /dev/sda /dev/sdb - any idea how I'd be able to do that with the 11.04 live CD and Grub2?
[18:19] <ThinkT510> needhelp1: your home directory: /home/username/
[18:19] <twana> How do I install minecraft.jar on Xubuntu?
[18:19] <needhelp1> ldr, you mean pwd ? print working directory?
[18:19] <ldr> yes
[18:19] <ikonia> KM0201: it does appear to be, although that package now appears to have gone
[18:19] <ldr> then you know where you are
[18:20] <ldr> if you wnat to know where the file is
[18:20] <nsadmin> how would I go about havng my synaptics touchpad's features activated?
[18:20] <ldr> locate filename can do the trick
[18:20] <ldr> nsadmin /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[18:20] <ldr> nsadmin is a good starting point
[18:20] <azathanai> I think the bios might be mounting the sata dvd rom as /dev/sda )-:
[18:20] <ldr> nsadmin ubuntu wiki even has a page about it
[18:21] <perlsyntax> My apt-get is brocken how to i fix it?
[18:21] <ThinkT510> !fixapt | perlsyntax
[18:22] <wildc4rd> evenin all
[18:22] <needhelp1> cp /home/user/Desktop/testfilecopy  .. instead of retyping the direct path whats my other option? to us the same paths? ldr ThinkT510 GirlyGirl
[18:22] <needhelp1> also, what does the tilda do ? ~
[18:22] <Cerrdor> whats the command to apply a proxy to the terminal?
[18:22] <ThinkT510> needhelp1: your home directory: /home/username/
[18:22] <GirlyGirl> needhelp1: you enter the path first with cd see "man cd"
[18:22] <KNUBBIG> It seems that pure-ftp does require a valid shell to allow logins, any idea how to prevent this?
[18:23] <needhelp1> GirlyGirl, right, im in the path, i know how to use cd ls pwd ect
[18:23] <ldr> needhelp1 what are you trying to achieve?
[18:23] <needhelp1> what does the pipe do? |
[18:23] <GirlyGirl> needhelp1: now cp file /path.to./destination
[18:23] <ThinkT510> !terminal | needhelp1
[18:24] <perlsyntax> i can't install anything in my apt-get.i still have the same prob.
[18:24] <ldr> needhelp1 | that pipe takes standard out from one command and pass it as standard input to another
[18:24] <Pici> !details | perlsyntax
[18:24] <needhelp1> ldr, GirlyGirl  instead of doing this cp ~/Desktop/testfiletocopy ~/Desktop/newfile   ... cant if shorten that command without typing the direct destination path ...
[18:25] <ldr> needhelp1 yes if you are in ~/Desktop
[18:25] <needhelp1> ldr, i am
[18:25] <ldr> jsut type cp testfile testfilecopy
[18:25] <needhelp1> ah nice, thanks i'll give that a try ldr
[18:25] <ldr> or cp testfiletocpy newfile
[18:25] <GirlyGirl> needhelp1: destination path if you don't type it it will assume current directory
[18:25] <needhelp1> thank you also GirlyGirl  and everyone else
[18:25] <GirlyGirl> needhelp1: You're Welcome
[18:26] <needhelp1> i take it there is no undo option
[18:26] <ldr> needhelp1 same is true for source but alway remeber things beginning with / are always an absolut path
[18:26] <GirlyGirl> needhelp1: no
[18:26] <ldr> needhelp1 like your /Desktop
[18:26] <needhelp1> ldr, shouldnt it be ~/Desktop
[18:26] <nsadmin> you mean cp file is equivalent to cp file .?
[18:27] <bogo> lolo
[18:27] <GirlyGirl> nsadmin: that would work from anywhere as ~ represents /home/yourusername
[18:27] <ldr> needhelp1 yes it should i jsut was traing to tell you whats was wrong with /Desktop
[18:27] <needhelp1> right yes, thanks for letting me know
[18:27] <ldr> needhelp1 maybe my english to bad
[18:27] <GirlyGirl> needhelp1: that would work from anywhere as ~ represents /home/yourusername
[18:28] <GirlyGirl> needhelp1: same like %windir% in windows
[18:28] <ldr> nsadmin admin no it always needs to arguments
[18:28] <ldr> nsadmin cp
[18:28] <unknown__> what is better lubuntu or fluxbox graphical interface?
[18:28] <ldr> nsadmin but you can use realtive pathes on both
[18:28] <ter0u> hi.. i want a mute a audio cd (from cd-rom sound)and i can found in alsamixer
[18:28] <GirlyGirl> needhelp1: Explorer your file system with a gui browser to under stand unix folder setup in filesystem
[18:29] <ldr> needhelp1 yes do what GirlyGirl sais :)
[18:29] <w3bcrawler> trying to uninstall python 2.7 .. E: python-gmenu: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 anyone know what i can do about that
[18:29] <preetam> i am unable to login to VPN after upgrading to ubuntu 11.04 the error message is :JRE not installed/Java is disabled". please help
[18:29] <ldr> needhelp1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard maybe this can help
[18:30] <needhelp1> ldr, GirlyGirl  when im at the end of a man file, how do i exit back to the CLI? the ctrl + D isnt working
[18:30] <ldr> needhelp1 press q
[18:30] <GirlyGirl> needhelp1: "q"
[18:30] <ldr> needhelp1 actually depends on your man reader setting but q should work
[18:30] <glebihan> w3bcrawler, why are you uninstalling python ? this may cause quite a lot of issues...
[18:30] <nsadmin> brb
[18:30] <ldr> needhelp1 in fact you can tell man which programm to use for opening the man pages
[18:30] <piyush> @ preetam, did u try upgrading JRE
[18:31] <w3bcrawler> i'm uninstalling 2.7.. the system depends on 2.6
[18:31] <ldr> needhelp1 so you can look at them with your favorite texteditor for example
[18:31] <w3bcrawler> and it's getting confused like fu ck
[18:31] <KNUBBIG> It seems that pure-ftp does require a valid shell to allow logins, any idea how to prevent this?
[18:31] <preetam> @piyush how to check JRE is installed or not. earlier it was working.
[18:31] <ldr> KNUBBIG if you find out let me know proftpd shows the same behavior here
[18:32] <go87651> тест
[18:32] <Eiriksvinr> hey guys, got a question for you... can I use the Live USB as a portable Ubuntu?
[18:32] <Eiriksvinr> I'm using it right now
[18:32] <needhelp1> ldr, to open a man page for cp in gedit, would i do  gksudo gedit man cp ?
[18:32] <ldr> no
[18:32] <Eiriksvinr> but I want to know if the programs I'm downloading will remain on the USB for future use?>
[18:33] <ldr> one second i look where its defined
[18:33] <ThinkT510> !usb | Eiriksvinr
[18:33] <w3bcrawler> Eirik: as far as I know they will
[18:33] <GirlyGirl> Eiriksvinr: Yes assuming each machine is compatible with ubuntu
[18:33] <piyush> java -version
[18:33] <ter0u> i want this in ubuntu... http://www.blindnero.com/pictures/cdaudio.gif... anybody ...!!!??
[18:33] <Cerrdor> whats the command to apply a proxy to the terminal?
[18:33] <ter0u> mute cd audio
[18:34] <needhelp1> GirlyGirl, using q to close, is this the same as in VIM or emacs ? not sure what man is using to view those man pages
[18:34] <KNUBBIG> ldr: for proftpd I could disable it, but I had to switch to pure-ftp
[18:34] <Cerrdor> q to exit out of man pages back to terminal
[18:34] <Cerrdor> whats the command to apply a proxy to the terminal?
[18:34] <ldr> KNUBBIG disabling didnt work here
[18:34] <GirlyGirl> needhelp1: I think so
[18:34] <KNUBBIG> ldr: you can just edit /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf and there set RequireValidShell no
[18:34] <Eiriksvinr> GirlyGirl thank you, because I don't use windows at all, and I am a Linux junky, using this Live USB is working great with every PC I have tried it on
[18:34] <justdifferent> Hello.. I'm new here.. i want to connect a Samsung Galaxy 3 to Ubuntu 10.04.. .. what is needed (on Phone/on Ubuntu)?
[18:34] <KNUBBIG> ldr: ant then /etc/init.d/proftpd restart
[18:34] <KNUBBIG> and*
[18:35] <w3bcrawler> just: it should just connect.. does the samsung galaxy use android?
[18:35] <ldr> KNUBBIG thx tried that didnt work
[18:35] <GirlyGirl> Eiriksvinr: You're Welcome
[18:35] <BentSpace> Does Evolution have some sort of achieving feature?
[18:35] <justdifferent> yes.. V2.2w3b
[18:35] <KNUBBIG> ldr: mh that's unnormal, that worked for me ... but now I'm stuck with that damn pure-ftp
[18:35] <Eiriksvinr> does anyone know the apt for flash?
[18:36] <needhelp1> ldr, how about ... man cp | gedit
[18:36] <Pici> Eiriksvinr: flashplugin-installer
[18:36] <piyush> @Cerrdor http_proxy=
[18:36] <ldr> needhelp1 you need to set the PAGER enviroment variable
[18:36] <needhelp1> ldr, not that i need to view it in gedit, just interested
[18:36] <ldr> it defines what program is used
[18:36] <justdifferent> W3B . .i try to sync with evolution.. Contacts, Kalenders.. etc..
[18:36] <Cerrdor> piyush, thanks thats what I thought
[18:36] <Eiriksvinr> so: apt-get flashplugin-installer
[18:36] <Cerrdor> anyway to check it?
[18:36] <ldr> needhelp1 and their is xman anyway btw
[18:37] <Pici> Eiriksvinr: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[18:37] <w3bcrawler> when i hook up my computer, i have to go to the menu in android (the pull-down menu where the time is) and select USB Connected, and from there it should ask you if you want to mount it or not.. after you mount it, ubuntu should recognize it and it should be there in your file manager
[18:37] <Eiriksvinr> Pici: apt-get flashplugin-installer
[18:37] <justdifferent> The Samsung is only connected as Card
[18:37] <ldr> KNUBBIG i found it unormal too maybe requiredvalidshell cancels out with chroot option? makes no sense i know but
[18:37] <Eiriksvinr> is that it?
[18:37] <Eiriksvinr> ooh, doh! I knew that!
[18:37] <KNUBBIG> ldr: nope, you can use that with chroot (I did so successfully)
[18:38] <w3bcrawler> i'm pretty sure it won't let you put stuff on the galaxy's internal memory.. it probably only lets you add stuff to the SD card
[18:38] <KNUBBIG> ldr: maybe you've got the mysql module enabled, too and there you've got another requirevalidshell?
[18:39] <justdifferent> w3b .. yes.. I can push something to the SD-Card.. but I want to connect as Phone.. not as SD-Card.. (or as both)
[18:39] <gamingdroid> is there a place that iptables will automatically pick up rules upon startup instead of messing around with the interface or using a network startup script?
[18:39] <ldr> KNUBBIG hmm i will have a look thanks for the hint
[18:39] <justdifferent> w3B in a forum some one say's .. it's possible I need KIES on the Samsung..
[18:40] <justdifferent> But waht do i also need.. on the Ubuntu-Side?
[18:40] <JayPro> sanity check.. when you go to install ubuntu with raid 1 already set up in the raid utility, ubuntu should only show one hard drive instead of 2, correct?
[18:41] <ldr> KNUBBIG you can always Deny Some Group in your ssh conf and put all ftp user in that group
[18:41] <ldr> KNUBBIG thats not what you wanted but thats what i do
[18:41] <JayPro> just wondering if i could install on one hard drive, but the motherboard will somehow know to copy the contents over...
[18:41] <ldr> KNUBBIG cause its a server and ssh is the only way to access it anyway
[18:41] <SCATTERSHOT> hey what up
[18:42] <wols> JayPro: what raid utility? if you can, you sure use normal linux software raid. not some fakeraid
[18:42] <SCATTERSHOT> anyone can help explain to me how to install my asus wireless card
[18:42] <w3bcrawler> hmm i'm really not sure man
[18:42] <KNUBBIG> ldr: thank you, that's a great idea
[18:42] <wols> JayPro: the motherboard never "knows" since it's no hardware raid
[18:42] <justdifferent> w3b.. thanks..
[18:43] <ldr> KNUBBIG you can do the same a little bit mor complicated in PAM so it works for local login shells too but as i seed no need here
[18:43] <w3bcrawler> any droid i've ever ran into , all you've had to do is select USB Connected from the drop-down notification menu on the droid
[18:43] <gulzar> I am getting this- http://pastebin.com/iJbpze76. but I want only basic LXDE with base utilities like lxteminal,leafpad,xarchiever etc. Nothing fancy and want to use Gnome apps on it. No chromium, no abiword etc. In USC LXDE metapackge (don't know the meaning of this) is only 12MB without software selection. So which way to go? I want nice Lxde like in Debian or better like in Knoppix.
[18:43] <w3bcrawler> and then the icon shows up on the desktop. what's the difference between 'connected as SD' and 'connected as phone
[18:43] <JayPro> wols: lol fake raid? hows that? there seems to be two different menus... the bios, where i specified raid, but no option to select 0 or 1. but upon reboot, i push control-s to go to raid utility.
[18:43] <KNUBBIG> ldr: that's true, no need for that ... oh but maybe a technician tries to login locally ;-) Thanks for your tip
[18:43] <Guest30065> JayPro you can have your installation spread out over many drives, and there are many ways and shapes it can be done in
[18:44] <justdifferent> w3B. what do you mean.. "You have an Menu Android"?
[18:44] <justdifferent> w3B in Ubuntu?
[18:44] <JayPro> Guest30065 ahh.. all i want is raid 1
[18:44] <ldr> KNUBBIG a technician locally has definitly no need for some ftp normal user shell i think ;)
[18:44] <w3bcrawler> no. the drop-down menu on your android.. where the time is.. you should be able to drag it down.. and in there it should say 'USB Connected'.. click on that, and then click 'Mount filesystem'
[18:44] <ldr> KNUBBIG but if you have a ftp server at home and do want your brother to use your computer
[18:45] <wols> JayPro: yes, fakeraid. google "fakeraid" and you will see
[18:45] <go87652> anybody know how with wmctrl run programm on top pozition ?
[18:45] <wols> JayPro: it's not real raid and basically is simply software which pretends it to be real raid
[18:45] <KNUBBIG> ldr: that's true :) I will just disable them in sshd_config. Thank you, I'd never have come to that idea :)
[18:45] <KNUBBIG> ldr: easy but very good and efficient, ty
[18:45] <wols> JayPro: in linux terms: dmraid versus mdraid
[18:45] <ldr> KNUBBIG you are welcome glad we could help each other
[18:45] <justdifferent> w3b yes.. that works..  i know this.  that is easy..  but I try to Sync automaticly with Evolution..
[18:46] <wols> JayPro: dmraid is fakeraid and should be avoided, unless you dualboot a windows raid. if you run a linux only system, use mdraid
[18:47] <gulzar> I am getting this- http://pastebin.com/iJbpze76. but I want only basic LXDE with base utilities like lxteminal,leafpad,xarchiever etc. Nothing fancy and want to use Gnome apps on it. No chromium, no abiword etc. In USC LXDE metapackge (don't know the meaning of this) is only 12MB without software selection. So which way to go? I want nice Lxde like in Debian or better like in Knoppix.
[18:47] <wols> !fakeraid > JayPro
[18:47] <alfplayer> dpkg question: is it normal that dpkg is overwriting files not owned by any package ? can I disable this ?
[18:47] <ldr> dmraid whats that creating a raid out of lvm partitons? ;)
[18:48] <wols> alfplayer: I thought it wouldn't overwrite them. if it does, one way is to put them into a "fake" packages. apt-cache show equivs
[18:48] <JayPro> ahhh... great info, wols! thanks!
[18:49] <wols> ldr: no, dmraid is a way to use fakeraid controllers like ICH10R
[18:49] <w3bcrawler> hmm maybe try syncevolution.org
[18:49] <wols> ldr: bascially ALL "raid" controllers on your typical desktop boards are fake raid
[18:49] <alfplayer> I thought it wouldn't too
[18:49] <justdifferent> w3b: ooh.. thanks.. i will try it.. many thanks..
[18:49] <w3bcrawler> it's basically a universal PIM converter
[18:50] <w3bcrawler> compatible with linux ;)
[18:50] <gulzar> is metapackage good?
[18:50] <royandre> Hey guys. I'm having issues with apache more than ubuntu tbh. can only access "localhost".. but not localhost/~user ... anyone care to help out anyways?
[18:50] <alfplayer> btw, tested with 10.04
[18:50] <sina> hi everybody! ;) I'm new here :D
[18:51] <justdifferent> w3b: ok.. i see... thank you.. .. now i'm try it
[18:51] <justdifferent> Cu
[18:51] <wols> gulzar: a metapackage is simply a list which draws in other packages
[18:52] <wols> !metapackage > gulzar
[18:52] <gulzar> wols:I am getting this- http://pastebin.com/iJbpze76. but I want only basic LXDE with base utilities like lxteminal,leafpad,xarchiever etc. Nothing fancy and want to use Gnome apps on it. No chromium, no abiword etc. In USC LXDE metapackge (don't know the meaning of this) is only 12MB without software selection. So which way to go? I want nice Lxde like in Debian or better like in Knoppix.
[18:52] <ThinkT510> gulzar: if you don't want everything lubuntu-desktop drags in then you would have to select what you want bit by bit
[18:52] <wols> !info lxde
[18:52] <b0ot> what do I need for lvdisplay?
[18:52] <w3bcrawler> anyone know if it's possible to make an ad hoc wireless network in ubuntu
[18:53] <gulzar> ThinkT510: so is metapackage from USC do the same thing?
[18:53] <wols> gulzar: I'd start with lxde instead of this desktop package. but you might miss various comfort functions
[18:53] <wols> b0ot: packages.ubuntu.com knows what package this is in
[18:53] <alfplayer> anyway, I'd like to disable it so it detects the conflict in case a file is installed by mistake
[18:53] <perlsyntax> Does anyone know where i can find a jde PPA?
[18:54] <ThinkT510> gulzar: try the lxde metapackage wols suggests
[18:54] <wols> perlsyntax: jde?
[18:54] <perlsyntax> yes for emacs
[18:54] <gulzar> wols: like? I am interested in LXDE with gnome apps so want to install this. If I can download entire distro then Mint is BEST( but i can't)
[18:54] <Guest30065> isn't there a list of ppas
[18:54] <Pici> b0ot: I'd guess the lvm2 package, but let me double check.
[18:54] <wols> gulzar: are you diskspace constrained?
[18:54] <Guest30065> what did you find on google
[18:54] <Pici> Guest30065: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[18:54] <Pici> perlsyntax: ^
[18:55] <perlsyntax> i think the jde for the ubuntu 11.04 is brocken package
[18:55] <perlsyntax> yes
[18:55] <wols> perlsyntax: what is a "jde"?
[18:55] <perlsyntax> it a java tool for emacs.
[18:55] <gulzar> wols: net problem. I am getting 4kB instead of 28kB from past 2 weeks
[18:55] <Guest30065> so it scoops coffee into a text editor?
[18:55] <perlsyntax> ?
[18:56] <frank_> hi all
[18:56] <perlsyntax> ?
[18:56] <gulzar> wols: so want to install LXDE like this. SO finally is metapackage good for comfort like in Knoppix or the terminal command with 82MB?
[18:56] <frank_> how can i install inssider in ubuntu ? any idea?
[18:57] <perlsyntax> So no one knows.
[18:57] <ThinkT510> frank_: insider?
[18:57] <Pici> perlsyntax: Did you try the link I suggested?
[18:57] <freeone3000> I'm looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessNetworking , but there's no Network Manager in System -> Adminstration. I've installed network-manager-gnome, still not there. Anyone got a link on how to do it without the GUI getting in the way?
[18:57] <perlsyntax> what link
[18:57] <Pici> perlsyntax: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[18:57] <frank_> no inssider
[18:57] <wols> frank_: untar it and run it. it will tell you when it lacks any libs
[18:58] <frank_> you can use it like kismet but its much better
[18:58] <perlsyntax> i try jde no luck
[18:58] <wols> ThinkT510: it's something that shows WLANs near you
[18:58] <Guest30065> perlsyntax, me, I'm probably going to install a java6 compiler and jre, and a tarball of eclipse
[18:58] <ThinkT510> wols: ahh, thanks
[18:58] <wols> frank_: not really :) easier to use use, but vastly inferior technically :)
[18:58] <GTAXL> How do I get swf files to work over apache?
[18:58] <gulzar> wols: so which option- meta or terminal?
[18:58] <Guest30065> in debian it's called sun-java6-jdk
[18:58] <wols> gulzar: what do you mean?
[18:59] <frank_> you mean kismet is better
[18:59] <frank_> ?
[18:59] <SkiOne> Hi, I am trying to figure out how to set a cron to run on the 3rd thursday of the month, would this do  it? 0 2 15-25 * 4 /usr/bin/sysupdate.sh >> /var/log/maint.log
[18:59] <wols> frank_: vastly. but harder to use, and not as good visualizing
[18:59] <ThinkT510> gulzar: sudo apt-get install lxde
[18:59] <gulzar> wols: I mean for LXDE like in Knoppix which way to install -metapackage (12MB) or teminal command(82MB)?
[19:00] <frank_> and i was tried to instal som plugin for auto wep crack but i couldnt
[19:00] <perlsyntax> i think a text editor is better.
[19:00] <wols> gulzar: you talk gibberish
[19:00] <squidie> Hi
[19:00] <Guest30065> ok
[19:01] <South_Tony_> Hi!
[19:01] <gulzar> wols: sorry. I am too frustrated with unity and then the low speed so like that. :) But seriously which way is best?
[19:01] <w3bcrawler> can you network an ubuntu box and a pc
[19:01] <ikonia> w3bcrawler: sure
[19:01] <South_Tony_> Is there any channel to get spanish help?
[19:01] <Pici> SkiOne: That should work, although the manpage for cron gives some weird suggestion using 'test'
[19:01] <go87651> anybody know how with wmctrl run programm on top pozition ?
[19:01] <w3bcrawler> ikonia, do you know if i need any particular software?
[19:01] <wols> gulzar: you've already beend told. and ther never is any "best" anyone on IRC could decide for you. YOU decide what's best for you
[19:01] <Pici> gulzar: What was wrong with the package suggestion that I gave you earlier?
[19:02] <ThinkT510> gulzar: sudo apt-get install lxde
[19:02] <ikonia> w3bcrawler: networking is built into both windows and ubuntu
[19:02] <alfplayer> South_Tony_: #Ubuntu-es
[19:02] <wols> w3bcrawler: a ubuntu installation is pretty much always a PC.
[19:02] <Mark_Morcom> Hi
[19:02] <South_Tony_> Thanks alfplayer  :)
[19:02] <w3bcrawler> hmm so if i connect two with a network cable between the two it should just work
[19:02] <freeone3000> w3bcrawler: Depends on what you mean by "network". If you mean Windows Printer and File Sharing, then yes, you need samba on the linux side.
[19:02] <SkiOne> Pici: thanks, man pages give me headaches. I usually use google but Iguess I am not sure if the 3rd thursday falls between the 15th and 25th of the month always
[19:02] <wols> w3bcrawler: no. you have to set up static IPs then
[19:02] <w3bcrawler> ubuntu -> windows
[19:03] <gulzar> Pici: its 82MB with chromium and abiword. I don't want extra apps . Just basic LXDE with required components and gnome apps.
[19:03] <ikonia> w3bcrawler: no, you have to configure them to be on the same network, and either use a switch/hub or cross-over cable
[19:03] <Eiriksvinr> this is working great, getting what i needed, and I'm out!
[19:03] <ikonia> w3bcrawler: there are some basic introductions to networking on the web
[19:03] <wols> ikonia: cross over cables are long outdated in the age of GbE
[19:03] <Pici> gulzar: lxde-core contains just LXDE. 'lxde' contains LXDE and some other LX programs.
[19:03] <w3bcrawler> damnit, that's exactly the problem, it's not a crossover
[19:03] <w3bcrawler>  /facepalm
[19:03] <ThinkT510> gulzar: sudo apt-get install lxde
[19:03] <wols> w3bcrawler: if both are gigabit ethernet, it doesn't matter
[19:03] <Pici> SkiOne: I *think* so, but I'm not 100% sure.
[19:04] <Mark_Morcom> I am having the following problem. I have installed LAMP on my Ubuntu 11.04. I’m totally new to Ubuntu but I would like to be able to save files from my IDE ststraighto var/www
[19:04] <wols> ThinkT510: I doubt he ever reads
[19:04] <ikonia> wols: I've got some broadcoms and intels that still need it
[19:04] <gulzar> ThinkT510: this is 12MB. Lets try this first.
[19:04] <juemo> Hey pals ! I need a hand finding the source of a arp mapping problem. My router keeps broadcasting arp request to map my server and he never respond. Got any ideas ?
[19:04] <Mark_Morcom> Permissions problems happen. I don't want to use Termanal. I want to just save files there
[19:05] <SkiOne> Pici: thanks, anyway you can think of for me to be sure? I am not sure of what search semantics I would use
[19:05] <wols> !permissions > Mark_Morcom
[19:05] <kjeldahl_> So it seems xorg-edgers update today really broke my oneiric kernel based natty installation. Anybody aware of any simple workarounds? Everything was honky dory until today... Yeah, I'm running a bastard system due to sandy bridge and recent atheros wifi chipsets not being supported in natty...
[19:05] <Guest30065> you're using lamp and you expect to not use terminal? damn dude lotsa luck with that
[19:05] <ThinkT510> kjeldahl_: #ubuntu+1
[19:06] <kjeldahl_> oh, thanks
[19:06] <Captainkrtek> Hello, having trouble with sound, I installed OSS for some python code I was writing. it worked and audio was fine for a bit. rebooted a few times, still fine. then all of a sudden it stops working and my audio configuration shows up as "Dummy Output", I can still see my soundcard in lshw though
[19:06] <go87651> anybody know how with wmctrl run programm on top pozition ?
[19:07] <Guest30065> Mark_Morcom, once the fantasy wears off, you'll be realizing you need -as much shell experience as possible-,
[19:07] <Captainkrtek> he is trying to use server without shell?
[19:07] <Captainkrtek> as Guest said, good luck
[19:07] <SkiOne> Pici: NVM I am doing the math by hand
[19:07] <Guest30065> a lamp server too
[19:08] <Mark_Morcom> Guest15308, I know, but editing files directly in the var/www folder would speed up my workflow
[19:08] <frank_> anyone knows how to install and use Kismet-PTW  plugin ?
[19:08] <ikonia> you can use a gui on the server without issue, that's the point of it
[19:08] <Captainkrtek> I'm a server admin for a few large sites, there is no such thing as a gui beyond tools like webmin
[19:08] <cpearson> .msg NickServ identify p!ssan1
[19:08] <cpearson> op
[19:08] <cpearson> s
[19:08] <cpearson> lolz
[19:08] <xangua> cpearson: good password ;)
[19:08] <ikonia> cpearson: ?
[19:08] <cpearson> lol
[19:08] <cpearson> always look at what you type
[19:08] <Mark_Morcom>  Ok, next question. Can I FTP to the var/www folder?
[19:09] <Captainkrtek> Mark_Morcom: yes...
[19:09] <ikonia> Mark_Morcom: sure, you just need to set the permissions up
[19:09] <go87651> anybody know how with wmctrl run programm on top pozition ?
[19:09] <Captainkrtek> configure vspftd/proftpd/whatever to make that your directory
[19:09] <w3bcrawler> i haven't done this in ages.. where do you change your ip in xfce
[19:09] <Captainkrtek> but as ikonia said, make sure it's secure, ive seen people move databases by placing them in /var/www -_-
[19:09] <frank_> if someone knows about it just pm me thanks
[19:10] <Mark_Morcom> Ok, will google that a bit. I
[19:10] <freeone3000> w3bcrawler: In /etc/network/interfaces
[19:10] <Captainkrtek> Mark_Morcom: I reccomend using scp or rsync, much better than ftp, also more secure
[19:10] <Mark_Morcom> Ok, thanks Captainkrtek
[19:10] <Guest30065> Mark_Morcom, right now I'm developing packages using something sort of like lamp, and my tendency is to use git to keep track of the source and the data model scripts. I typically ssh in, edit files, add/commit to git repo and possibly push to remote git repos
[19:10] <w3bcrawler> ty freeone3000
[19:10] <royandre> is there a way to edit a file from regular user that needs superuser to edit.. in gui
[19:11] <freeone3000> royandre: gksu or kdesudo, depending.
[19:11] <perlsyntax> I found out jde is brocken package how do i fix it?
[19:11] <freeone3000> royandre: Most are also fine with 'sudo yourtexteditor yourfile'.
[19:11] <royandre> i am trying to look at an error.log file.
[19:11] <Guest30065> royandre, many ways
[19:11] <Pici> perlsyntax: Look for or report a bug firstly, you might find your fix right there.
[19:11] <Captainkrtek> royandre: sudo gedit?
[19:11] <SkiOne> For the record the 3rd thursday falls between the 15th and 22nd of the month counting from the 1st starting on each day from Sun->Sat, then counting the number of days to the 1st thurs then adding 14
[19:12] <Guest30065> direct answer to the question you asked: yes
[19:12] <royandre> yeah that will work.. but thats just for textbased stuff right?
[19:12] <royandre> terminal
[19:12] <Guest30065> try it and see
[19:12] <perlsyntax> is there a deb file for jde?
[19:12] <royandre> hmm i thought i did already. Well, thanks guys. Appreciated
[19:12] <Guest30065> what's jde?
[19:12] <ThinkT510> !find jde
[19:12] <Captainkrtek> royandre: use a terminal, just use nano or something
[19:13] <szal> !info jde
[19:13] <Captainkrtek> royandre: or to use a gui, sudo gedit from a terminal, it'll launch it
[19:13] <Guest30065> so... yes
[19:13] <perlsyntax> ?
[19:13] <Polah> perlsyntax: Reinstall it
[19:13] <perlsyntax> how
[19:14] <Guest30065> perlsyntax, remember the question you asked... was a yes or no questoin... answer is yet
[19:14] <Guest30065> yes
[19:14] <squidie> Hi all
[19:14] <Wlodek> what is  the easier way to represent midi song in java program
[19:14] <Wlodek> hi
[19:14] <Pici> Wlodek: Please ask in ##java
[19:14] <go87651> anybody know how with wmctrl run programm on top pozition ?
[19:14] <perlsyntax> look like i going to get alot of help in here.
[19:15] <Wlodek> i can't join ##java
[19:15] <SkiOne> when scheduling crons, I know I can pipe stout to a log file by doing script.sh >> log, how do I also pipe the error out?
[19:15] <ThinkT510> !register | Wlodek
[19:15] <Wlodek> thx guys
[19:15] <oCean> SkiOne: /path/to/script >> /path/to/log 2>&1   (2 = STDERR)
[19:15] <perlsyntax> All i saying it a red box in my apt and i wantt o know how to FIX it..
[19:16] <Pici> perlsyntax: Calm down, we've been trying to provide help.
[19:16] <witeshark> can someone please help me fix corrupted kernel for 11.04 off my live CD?
[19:16] <GTAXL> I just maxed out the HDD for my Ubuntu in a VirtualBox. Anybody know how I can bump up the hdd size but not mess up the files?
[19:16] <wols> perlsyntax: you don't make it easy for us to help either. you haven't told us how it is broken for example
[19:17] <Pici> perlsyntax: If you want to use jde, it looks like you're going to have some issues as it appears that the packages in Ubuntu do not install properly now that we use emacs23, take a look at the bugs here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jde
[19:17] <Pici> perlsyntax: Perhaps they've been updated upstream to fix this.
[19:17] <SkiOne> oCean: so if I did script >>run.log 2>>error.log that would be correct? In that it would append each log accordingly?
[19:17] <wols> GTAXL: add another "harddisk" to your virtualbox
[19:17] <Mark_Morcom> Sorry, how would I find my ftp address my var/www. Would it be localhost? or would it be my IP. And what would my username and password be? My login info?
[19:17] <GTAXL> Yea, but I prefer just one cuz it's a server
[19:18] <oCean> SkiOne: yes, STDOUT to runlog, STDERR to error.log
[19:18] <royandre> sudo gedit worked out splendid.. allthough i had to superuser it from terminal.. apparantly my user is not allowed to do it. oh well.. worked out anyways. appreciated. Thanks guys
[19:18] <wols> Mark_Morcom: depends on the ftp client and how it is set up. can your php IDE use sftp? tho, if you log in under your user then it has your user's permissions. so if you normally can't write to /var/www then your ftp or sftp login can't either
[19:18] <SkiOne> thanks, I kind of knew it, but was unsure of the syntax
[19:18] <carandraug> hi! When I'm accessing another computer through ssh on nautilus, where is it mounted?
[19:19] <bigfatbird> hello. in libreoffice 3.3.2 which is in ubuntu natty are known security issues. see here for more http://forums.cnet.com/7726-6132_102-5153572.html what i wanted to know: did canonical fix the issue in 3.3.2 or do i have to update manually to the next 3.3.3 or 3.4.2?
[19:19] <Mark_Morcom> k, thanks ski_
[19:19] <Mark_Morcom> * SkiOne
[19:20] <wols> bigfatbird: check http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/
[19:20] <witeshark> can i get some help repairing grub config from a live cd?
[19:21] <szal> witeshark: define "repairing grub config"
[19:21] <witeshark> GNU GRUB version 1.97 beta 4
[19:21] <witeshark> [Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists possible device/flies completions]
[19:21] <witeshark> sh:grub>
[19:21] <FloodBot1> witeshark: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:22] <witeshark> i booted off the live cd, not sure where to go next
[19:22] <trism> bigfatbird: 3.3.3 is in proposed if you want to help test it
[19:22] <witeshark> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1432486
[19:22] <Pici> bigfatbird: Oddly, It doesn't look like it: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2011/CVE-2011-2685.html
[19:22] <witeshark> this thread lacks specifcs
[19:23] <Captainkrtek> I have OSS Sound installed and having some weird issues, I type ossinfo and it all looks good except "Version info: OSS 4.2 (b 2004/201101051743) (0x00040100) EXPIRED
[19:23] <Captainkrtek> then when I try to launch the audio config, it says, waiting for Sound System to respond
[19:23] <GirlyGirl> witeshark: chroot to your ubuntu partition, from live cd, then run sudo update-grub
[19:24] <witeshark> GirlyGirl: thanks - i don't dual boot
[19:24] <Pici> trism: ah, is it? I should have checked.
[19:24] <SkiOne> how do I re-show the topic?
[19:24] <Pici> SkiOne: /topic
[19:24] <bigfatbird> thanks, that was helpful. :) trism wols Pici
[19:24] <SkiOne> duh
[19:24] <SkiOne> thanks
[19:26] <Captainkrtek> anyone have an idea about OSS saying Expired?
[19:28] <wols> captainjackstraw: are you using OSS4? where did you get your OSS from?
[19:28] <wols> OSS was (is?) commercial software
[19:28] <wols> !info oss4
[19:28] <Captainkrtek> wols: installed from the repo
[19:28] <Captainkrtek> via aptitude
[19:28] <wols> then it shouldn't "expire". usually.
[19:28] <Captainkrtek> I just ran osstest and it runs fine
[19:28] <SkiOne> maybe multiverse?
[19:29] <Captainkrtek> like audio plays for the test
[19:29] <Captainkrtek> but the audio config says "waiting for sound system to respond"
[19:30] <go87651> anybody know how with wmctrl run programm on top pozition ?
[19:30] <Polah> go87651: That made very little sense.
[19:31] <w3bcrawler> i have two computers, both on wireless, side by side.. one is ubuntu, one is windows.. what would be the easiest way to move some files from my linux system to windows? i have them connected with a network cable and configured the ip's/subnets but nothing is working
[19:31] <Captainkrtek> OSStest does output sound
[19:32] <Captainkrtek> w3bcrawler: share one of the drives on the network
[19:32] <Ansuman> su root is asking password? When I am giving my login password i am having Authentication error
[19:32] <BluesKaj> !samba | w3bcrawler
[19:32] <Captainkrtek> Ansuman: what are you trying to do
[19:32] <Polah> ansuman: su will attempt to log into a shell as root, hence it wants the password of the root account (which doesn't exist). Prepend your regular commands with sudo and enter your password.
[19:33] <go87651> Polah: why you think so ?
[19:33] <Captainkrtek> go87651: it will ask for the superuser password when you try to use su
[19:33] <Ansuman> Captainkrtek: I am trying to use rrot user
[19:34] <Captainkrtek> Ansuman: don't just use the sudo command
[19:34] <Polah> go87651: What you said is fairly nonsensical. If English isn't your first language then there is other Ubuntu support channels in other languages.
[19:34] <Pici> Captainkrtek: The root account is locked in Ubuntu. You cannot su to root by default.
[19:34] <Captainkrtek> Pici: I know that...
[19:34] <Captainkrtek> I was suggesting he use sudo instead
[19:35] <Ansuman> Captainkretek: Thanks
[19:35] <Pici> Captainkrtek: Sorry, I misread then :)
[19:35] <Captainkrtek> no problem
[19:35] <Captainkrtek> Pici: know anything about OSS Sound?
[19:35] <Pici> Captainkrtek: Sorry, I don't :/
[19:35] <Polah> Pici: You can using sudo
[19:35] <Ansuman> Polah: Thanks
[19:35] <Captainkrtek> k
[19:35] <freeone3000> OSS? Shouldn't you just do oss-alsa-compat and work with alsa?
[19:35] <Captainkrtek> freeone3000: ooh thanks, i'll try that
[19:35] <Pici> Polah: sudo su is a hack.
[19:36] <Captainkrtek> freeone3000: when I run OSSTest it plays audio fine, but trying to open the Sound configuration tool, it says "waiting for sound system to respond"
[19:37] <go87651> Polah: in russian community anybody can answer me :( what i asked wrong? i need to start termonal on top position window... How I can dp this ?
[19:37] <go87651> *do
[19:37] <BentSpace> GirlyGirl:  Tried "sudo apt-purge evolution" and it said command not found
[19:37] <cmdbbq> i have an init boot error and the website advises me to boot into recovery from a  live cd and run fdisk, so i have two questions 1. can i run fdisk with a different live cd (eg. sysrescuedc or the like) and expect the same result? 2. how do i change the frequency of boot checks to avoid this failure in future?
[19:37] <freeone3000> Captainkrtek: Only one thing can play OSS at once. Is something else playing sound?
[19:38] <Captainkrtek> freeone3000: nope, just rebooted
[19:38] <Uchiha_Itachi> BentSpace: apt-get purge evolution
[19:38] <GirlyGirl> BentSpace: sorry apt-get --purge
[19:38] <Troy^> is 11.10 going to have gnome 3?
[19:38] <Polah> go87651: Ah, you want to be able to open a terminal using a button on the top panel? Applications Menu > Accessories  and then click and drag the Terminal entry to your top panel. Hopefully that's what you're trying to do
[19:38] <Polah> Troy^: Theoretically.
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: yes, Oneiric questions in #ubuntu+1 please
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> go87651: Polah: what about guake?
[19:40] <Captainkrtek> I have OSS Sound installed and having some weird issues, I type ossinfo and it all looks good except "Version info: OSS 4.2 (b 2004/201101051743) (0x00040100) EXPIRED
[19:40] <go87651> Polah: 1.I use openbox and tint2 panel :) 2. i nedd to run anyway (from menu or console) terminal and dont make then manually it on top position i need to run it on top .
[19:40] <witeshark> GirlyGirl: can you add detail to your suggestion?
[19:41] <witeshark> chroot does not seem to exist on my live cd
[19:41] <niez> hi, how can I make single sign on without kerberos/ldap? I have 3 desktops and 1 server in my lan, can I just copy/distribute passwd/shadow files?
[19:41] <go87651> ActionParsnip: no. i want to run gnome-terminat :( for myselve i use stjerm :)
[19:41] <GirlyGirl> witeshark: mount the partition of your install
[19:41] <iceroot> niez: for what services? only ssh?
[19:41] <GirlyGirl> "chroot /path/to/mounteddrive"
[19:42] <niez> iceroot,  only for login
[19:42] <Polah> go87651: Do you want something like this where it drops down http://guake.org/screenshots/1 or a button to start up gnome-terminal?
[19:42] <witeshark> GirlyGirl:  you mean mount the harddrive by name?
[19:42] <iceroot> niez: what login? ssh? gdm?
[19:43] <GirlyGirl> witeshark: first mount to a directory e.g /media/drive
[19:43] <GirlyGirl> witeshark: you know how to do that
[19:44] <witeshark> GirlyGirl: not in Ubuntu
[19:44] <niez> iceroot, gdm, I want to have one place where I can define users, and then every user should be able to log in into every desktop in my lan
[19:44] <BentSpace> GirlyGirl:  Uchiha_Itachi:  Thank you, worked.
[19:44] <Polah> witeshark: mount command
[19:44] <iceroot> niez: automaticly (kerberos) or only all with the same credentials/uid?
[19:45] <witeshark> GirlyGirl: okay i have the mount commandmanula
[19:45] <witeshark> manual
[19:45] <niez> iceroot, ?
[19:45] <wols> niez: you can
[19:45] <lloowen> Hello all. I've just borked up my ubuntu :( I know I could fix it with a live cd but I only have access to a windows 7 OS that won't let me install any programs such as a dvd burner that that could burn an iso imae. Any ideas how I could get my ubuntu working again?
[19:45] <GirlyGirl> witeshark: if you know the partition and device mount /dev/sdX" somewhere
[19:45] <iceroot> niez: do you only want to have the same password on every machine and the same users?
[19:45] <wols> niez: but that's very very crude
[19:45] <Dernyl> hi
[19:45] <Polah> lloowen: Broken your GRUB install by installing Windows?
[19:46] <iceroot> niez: and why not ldap/kerberos? its the perfect solution for your needs
[19:46] <Dernyl> how can i enable compiz visual effects please ?
[19:46] <go87651> Polah: thank you for screenshot :) i know how look like quake :) yes.. i need something like this but i want to pack my terminal in headline  and change it position on monitor and change it size :)
[19:46] <niez> iceroot, in other words, I want to define user 'niez' with password 'secret' on my server, and then I wanto to log in to desktop1 and desktop2 with this user/passwd
[19:46] <iceroot> niez: ldap
[19:47] <lloowen> Polah: No I messed up my xorg.conf file and now it won
[19:47] <lloowen> t start up
[19:47] <witeshark> GirlyGirl: sda and sda1 listed as 'don't exist'
[19:47] <niez> iceroot, configuration is VERY complicated: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SingleSignOn, I've stopped on configuring kerberos
[19:47] <Polah> go87651: That's all I know, I don't know about anything to change it's position that pops up the same way. Someone else might be able to help you
[19:48] <niez> iceroot, and I don't have 100 desktops, I have 3
[19:48] <cmdbbq> lloowen: can you switch to a terminal by pressing ctrl-alt-Fn#?
[19:48] <witeshark> GirlyGirl: do you mind going PM?
[19:48] <entr0pia> hi there
[19:48] <GirlyGirl> witeshark: you probably have wrong device see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=336279
[19:48] <Polah> lloowen: Try that, or you could boot into recovery console, or create a LiveUSB instead of a LiveCD
[19:48] <lloowen> cmdbbq: No that does not work either :(
[19:48] <Dernyl> how can i enable compiz visual effects please ?
[19:48] <entr0pia> good question
[19:49] <iceroot> niez: singlesignon is something different then managing users with ldap
[19:49] <Polah> Dernyl, install compizconfig-settings-manager
[19:49] <niez> iceroot, so I don't need to use kerberos?
[19:49] <entr0pia> instal by sudo?
[19:50] <lloowen> Polah: I'm using kubuntu, but how do I get to boot to the recovery console?
[19:50] <niez> iceroot, only ldap?
[19:50] <Dernyl> Polah: I already did it
[19:50] <iceroot> niez: you need kerberos if you want to login into one machine and then login into other machines without typing the password again
[19:50] <iceroot> niez: for managing users you only need ldap
[19:50] <Polah> lloowen: Hold shift while booting into GRUB and it'll give you an option like "Ubuntu 11.04 <kernel> Recovery Console"
[19:50] <BluesKaj> lloowen, hold down the shift key right after the bios scrn
[19:50] <Dernyl> but even if the checkbox is checked, the visual effect is disabled
[19:50] <Polah> lloowen: Well actually it'll give you a few options, one of which will be recovery console
[19:53] <lloowen> BluesKaj: Thanks that worked:)
[19:53] <lloowen> Polah: Thanks for your help
[19:54] <Dernyl> polah, do you have another trick ?
[19:55] <Polah> Dernyl: Could be that your graphics card doesn't support it. What environment are you logged into? Ubuntu Classic, Classic (No Effects), Unity or something else?
[19:55] <Dernyl> Polah: i log with ubuntu classic because i don't like unity, but those effects worked before
[19:56] <Polah> Dernyl: Sure it's not the No Effects one? I'm not sure, someone else might know
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> Dernyl: what video chip do you use?
[19:56] <witeshark> GirlyGirl: i mounted it through the GUI as 'filesystem'
[19:56] <Dernyl> polah: yes, i'm sure it isn't the No effects one
[19:56] <witeshark> how can i view as root?
[19:56] <GirlyGirl> witeshark: ok open terminal
[19:56] <robin0800> Dernyl, try compiz --replace
[19:57] <witeshark> GirlyGirl: open
[19:57] <faizul> hi rww
[19:57] <GirlyGirl> witeshark: type "sudo -i"
[19:57] <Dernyl> ActionParsnip: I don't know if it's what you mean, but my video card is GeForce GT540M
[19:57] <witeshark> done
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> Dernyl: yes thats the chip
[19:57] <GirlyGirl> witeshark: type "cd /media"
[19:58] <witeshark> done
[19:58] <GirlyGirl> witeshark: type "ls" and give me output
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> Dernyl: can you run:   sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | grep nvidia      pastebin the text so yuou can give it here
[19:58] <Dernyl> robin0800: I've already tried it, but after about 15 minutes it wasn't done yet...
[19:58] <witeshark> GirlyGirl: results in a long string
[19:59] <GirlyGirl> witeshark: I need that long string!
[19:59] <GirlyGirl> witeshark: paste.ubuntu.com
[19:59] <robin0800> Dernyl, what driver are you using?
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> robin0800: the pastebin will tell you that ;)
[20:00] <Dernyl> ActionParsnip: that's what i get : http://pastebin.com/Hh2QPMxM
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> Dernyl: oh god you have that Optimus nonsense don't you
[20:00] <GirlyGirl> witeshark: Got to paste.ubuntu.com and add the string there then link me here
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> Dernyl: that stuff is nothing but bother
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> Dernyl: I've heard bumblebee can help but it's not going to be a smooth ride in any way (until it gets DECENT linux support)
[20:02] <witeshark> GirlyGirl:  liked
[20:02] <GirlyGirl> witeshark: follow keystroke in terminal press "e" then press TAB then press enter
[20:03] <Dernyl> what is bumblebee ?
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> Dernyl: look it up, you'll see
[20:03] <GirlyGirl> witeshark: done?
[20:03] <Cerrdor> Dernyl, its a name brand tuna!
[20:03] <Cerrdor> :D
[20:04] <witeshark> GirlyGirl: just e + tab?
[20:04] <niez> iceroot, when I add a user to ldap server, home directory will be created automatically when the user first logs in or the admin should create home dirs?
[20:04] <GirlyGirl> witeshark: yes
[20:05] <GirlyGirl> witeshark: done
[20:05] <b0ot> Can you run fsarchiver somehow from the bootable ubuntu usb?
[20:05] <iceroot> niez: ldap is just a replacment for /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow
[20:06] <[snake]> My windows partition is trying to automatically mount at / and failing. how can I make it go to /media/dos
[20:06] <Dernyl> ActionParsnip: so i have to install bumblebee
[20:06] <Polah> [snake]: Edit your fstab file
[20:06] <GirlyGirl> witeshark: sorry then type "cd e936931-6c19-41c1-ab41-ab12bd593c8a"
[20:06] <iceroot> niez: when you create a user, ubuntu is calling a skel-script which is copying specific files. look at /etc/skel/
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> Dernyl: it may help. I've NEVER seen a single success story with dual video chips. Personally I am going to be avoiding it for the very foreseeable future
[20:07] <[snake]> thanks Polah bear
[20:07] <niez> iceroot, I see, home directory skeleton
[20:08] <iceroot> niez: correct, the content of that dir will be transferd to the new home
[20:08] <[snake]> not a polar bear? oh well :P
[20:09] <niez> iceroot, but when I add a user through ldap this skeleton would be copied to /home/user, what about other dektops in my lan?
[20:09] <niez> iceroot, I need to handle this manually?
[20:09] <phill> how to convert windows .crt openvpn file to ca.pem for linux
[20:09] <iceroot> niez: no, when you first logon to a new system, the system is reading ldap about the config and then running skel
[20:10] <iceroot> niez: the call of skel is not done by ldap, its done by pam
[20:10] <iceroot> niez: so remeber, ldap is just a replacement for /etc/password and so on, nothing more
[20:11] <niez> iceroot, co when I'm logging into desktop-01 my new home directory is created from /etc/skel on desktop-01, not from server's /etc/skel, am I right?
[20:11] <Juo> is this cron task correct if i want it to run every 2 hours?
[20:11] <Dernyl> ActionParsnip: ok, i've installed it
[20:11] <Juo> 0 */2 * * * /home/karl/leechr/leechr.py
[20:12] <iceroot> niez: correct
[20:12] <Juo> it doesn't seem to be working :s
[20:12] <iceroot> niez: its a local function
[20:13] <niez> iceroot, and what about mounting home directories from my server? how can I accomplish that?
[20:14] <niez> iceroot, kerberos/ldap can't do that, yes?
[20:14] <root_> ./oper
[20:15] <Dernyl> ActionParsnip: it asks me if i want to reconfigure it, what should I do ?
[20:15] <Pici> root_: What are you looking for?
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> Dernyl: never used it so you now know more than I
[20:15] <niez> iceroot, I need to mount whole /home from my file server? or is it possible to mount just logged in users home directories?
[20:15] <Pici> Juo: That should work. Take a look at /var/log/syslog to ensure that your job is running.  Also, remember that you need to have a newline at the end of your crontab.
[20:16] <Tim> Hello! I am wondering does anyone know a good guide to setup diskless ubuntu 11.04 images for pxe booting on an 11.04 server?
[20:16] <Juo> cheers Pici /var/log/syslog is exactly what i need to debug :)
[20:16] <robin0800> Dernyl, what does it want to reconfigure?
[20:16] <KPG> If a port is in the open state according to the command nmap localhost, does that mean that, that port is forwarded?
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> KPG: no, forwarding needs an extra bit to push the data to the desination SOCKET
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> sorry for caps
[20:18] <Dernyl> robin0800: when i ran "apt-get install bumblee", after a few moments, it asked me "do you want to reconfigure bumblebee?"
[20:18] <Dernyl> robin0800: so i said yes and chose the default configuration
[20:18] <KPG> ActionParsnip: Ok, so how does http work to allow you to connect to the internet without port 80 being forwarded?
[20:18] <iceroot> niez: you can mount it e.g. with nfs
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> KPG: if you use a router you will need to setup the port forward there
[20:19] <iceroot> niez: but with nfs you MUST use ldap. because nfs is not checking the uid
[20:19] <iceroot> niez: which will mess up the system if you have different uids for the same user
[20:20] <KPG> ActionParsnip" Ok, but could you possibly explain the difference in the way that http is able to connect to the internet without forwarding port 80?
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> KPG: the outgoing connections are allowed due to the router fetching the data for you, the incoming data was requested andso is allowed
[20:20] <niez> iceroot, so I need just to mount /home at boot time and it should just work, if uids are correct?
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> KPG: unrequested connections coming in will be blocked at the router unless you setup a port forwarding rule (Can also be called virtual server)
[20:21] <KPG> ActionParsnip: Ok. Does that mean that it would be impossible for someone to use port 80 to ssh into a computer without the port being forwarded?
[20:22] <w3bcrawler> will samba work for sharing files via wireless?
[20:22] <willmc_productio> hello anyone home?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> KPG: its not completely impossible but is VERY hard as the router will simply drop the connection as you have not allowed the data
[20:24] <willmc_productio> I do i connect my nas drive to ubuntu..
[20:24] <KPG> ActionParsnip: Ok. So, essentially it would be very difficult to make any sort of connection from one computer to a connection outside of a LAN without forwarding ports? Are there any other ways?
[20:24] <PerlStalker> Where does modern version of Ubuntu set the group ownership of inserted media?
[20:25] <PerlStalker> I'd like to be able to force the group to 'nogroup'
[20:25] <Dernyl> robin0800: i installed it but visuals effects still don't work
[20:26] <iceroot> niez: yes
[20:26] <iceroot> niez: but think of he case when the server is not reachable
[20:27] <bsmith093> whats the dev comman dto dump to tnhe terminal
[20:28] <niez> iceroot, whan pam can't authenticate through ldap it should try local passwd, yes?
[20:28] <willmc_productio> I have a nasgear network drive connected to my network..windows can see it. but ubuntu can not get a list from it..
[20:28] <iceroot> niez: yes
[20:28] <iceroot> niez: but i spoke about the case you cant mount your homes
[20:29] <niez> iceroot, so only solution I see for now is to create one local user on every desktop
[20:29] <niez> iceroot, a fallbacj user
[20:29] <iceroot> niez: yes, i am doing that on my ldap-based systems to, just for the case of problems
[20:30] <w3bcrawler> will samba work for sharing files via wireless?
[20:31] <niez> iceroot, if you are using this, can you say something about nfs vs sshfs?
[20:31] <iceroot> niez: i am only using nfs
[20:31] <iceroot> niez: sorry
[20:32] <niez> iceroot, and nfs works without problems?
[20:32] <iceroot> niez: if you handle the uid-problem its a great thing
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> KPG: yes, thats how routers act as a form of firewall
[20:33] <w3bcrawler>  icon
[20:33] <niez> iceroot, and what about speed? is it significant overhead?
[20:33] <evilbit> hi, with 11.04 installer (amd_64) is it possible to setup disk encryption at install time?
[20:33] <brylie> How can I send a file to an e-mail address from Bash?
[20:33] <KPG> ActionParsnip: Ok. Thank you for the help ActionParsnip! I appreciate it!
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> KPG: np man
[20:33] <iceroot> niez: i dont see any problems with the speed
[20:34] <iceroot> niez: 1gbit/s lan
[20:34] <iceroot> niez: but maybe if you are connected through wifi
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> evilbit: yes its an option
[20:34] <iceroot> niez: but of course a local home is always faster
[20:35] <niez> iceroot, thanks, so I'm going to install tomorrow ldap + nfs
[20:35] <niez> iceroot, it's look like this is what I need
[20:35] <temper> hi, was able to setup imagemagick, but there's no support for jpg, etc....
[20:36] <temper> looks like i'm missing delegate files or something like that for jpgs
[20:36] <iceroot> niez: great, its a very good solution and i hope you will like it
[20:36] <w3bcrawler> will samba work for sharing files via wireless?
[20:36] <iceroot> w3bcrawler: sure
[20:37] <w3bcrawler> ty <3
[20:42] <Guipi11> SAlut
[20:42] <BentSpace> GirlyGirl: I did the apt-get purge and then reinstalled with apt-get evolution, strangely all my email accounts were still there even after the purge.  Unfortunately the same freezing and crashing problem persists as well.
[20:42] <Guipi11> Hi
[20:42] <Guipi11> We speak english here ?
[20:42] <Anthony25> Salut
[20:43] <Anthony25> oui ça parle pas mal anglais sur ce canal ;)
[20:43] <Guipi11> Ok ...
[20:43] <Anthony25> tout dépend le soucis que tu as, je pourrai peut être t'aider
[20:44] <Loshki> !fr | Guipi11
[20:44] <Guipi11> Je n'ai pas de soucis en fait je viens juste d'installer Xchat et donc il faut que je regarde de plus près comment ça fonctionne
[20:44] <Anthony25> ok ^^
[20:44] <Guipi11>  /join #ubuntu-fr
[20:44] <Anthony25> en fait soit tu rejoins un canal manuellement
[20:45] <Anthony25> donc par cette commande là ou alors par interface graphique
[20:45] <lvh> Hi
[20:46] <designbybeck> anyone hooking up a Ubuntu Laptop with HDMI to a TV? ....mine kinda lags
[20:46] <lvh> How can I access gvfs mounts from the terminal? I mounted my other machine over sshfs, but when I cd into ~/.gvfs, I get "transport endpoint is not connected: .gvfs"
[20:46] <designbybeck> the response on the Laptop screeen is fast... and normal... but the mouse lags behind on the HDTV
[20:46] <w3bcrawler> so what is it exactly that i have to do with samba once it's installed to be able to network to my windows box?
[20:46] <w3bcrawler> i've tried both wired and wireless and it's not saying anything is connected
[20:48] <BluesKaj> w3bcrawler, did you set it up in nautlius network , samba shares ?
[20:49] <w3bcrawler> neither. i just installed it via apt and i'm not sure what to do next
[20:50] <BluesKaj> w3bcrawler, open nautilus , look for places/network , there should be an icon samba shares
[20:50] <squidie> Yo
[20:50] <squidie> Anyone have any good advice on ubuntu installation over windows 7 that hangs on installation?
[20:50] <allu2> how i can change the "color" scheme of tty* terminal?
[20:55] <debianuser1223> I want to install ubuntu server on a laptop via ssh ? as I have no screen and no external screen
[20:56] <wujek_> debianuser1223: not sure if it's possible
[20:56] <iceroot> debianuser1223: pxe
[20:56] <io> debianuser1223: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/OverSSH
[20:56] <io> nothing's impossible
[20:56] <wujek_> :)
[20:57] <w3bcrawler> BluesKaj; i'm getting an error when i try to connect, Unable to mount location: Failed to retrieve share list from server
[20:58] <w3bcrawler> and if i type findsmb it only shows my local computer :(
[20:58] <BluesKaj> w3bcrawler, make sure you have folders on windows shared
[20:58] <b0nghitter> my hdd is going bad, what's the best way to move my current ubuntu-server install to a 2nd hdd? recreate the partitions and copy th files? id rather not have to reinstall and reconfigure if i dont need to
[20:59] <duckxor> how do you change the screen resolution in 10.10?
[21:00] <b0nghitter> im assuming there are things i cant just copy over
[21:00] <BluesKaj> b0nghitter, use dd to copy the partition
[21:00] <iceroot> b0nghitter: dd if the new drive has the same size
[21:00] <BluesKaj> !dd | b0
[21:00] <BluesKaj> !info dd | b0nghitter
[21:01] <b0nghitter> moving to a 20GB hdd instead of the 100GB it's currently on
[21:01] <POVaddct> BluesKaj: dd is part of the coreutils package
[21:02] <BluesKaj> how much data , b0nghitter ?
[21:02] <io> !info coreutils | b0nghitter
[21:02] <b0nghitter> about 5GB in use atm
[21:03] <w3bcrawler> BluesKaj, yep.. sharing is enabled for the folder
[21:03] <b0nghitter> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/7QruWma7
[21:03] <duckxor> In the monitor preferences, my monitor's screen resolution (1440x900) does not show up as an option. How do I manually override this?
[21:04] <Trond--> http://classicalwebcast.com/europe.htm Is it a Firefox thing or Ubuntu when I can open files because they are not associated?
[21:05] <Trond--> can't*
[21:05] <w3bcrawler> i've been fucking with this for 2 days now
[21:05] <BluesKaj> w3bcrawler, in  nautlus network , is there an option/icon , "add network folder" ? .
[21:05] <OmegaForte> Language.
[21:05] <OmegaForte> We have kids that come in here
[21:06] <w3bcrawler> nope.. there's an open location.. or connect to server though
[21:08] <Juo> is there any good sys monitoring tools that run on HTTP? to check stuff like CPU temp etc?
[21:08] <astraljava> Hey guys, anyone know where window state information is stored for a GNOME2 / metacity session? My spotify window is maximized on a two-screen setup, and it won't unmaximize (by Alt+F5), nor will it change the size from the bottom right corner (as it is supposed to.) Where to look/what to do? Needless to say, my google-fu fails on me, and so does my grep-fu.
[21:09] <Polah> Juo: You could set up an SSH server and connect via SSH to run commands to check such stuff
[21:09] <BluesKaj> w3bcrawler, ok connect to server , it asks for IP . user and pw ..correct ?
[21:09] <Juo> Polah: yeah I'm using SSH, I just wanted a friendly GUI to check it without running commands
[21:10] <Juo> its ubuntu server 10.04
[21:10] <w3bcrawler> BluesKaj, correct.
[21:10] <w3bcrawler> among other things.
[21:10] <bashelina> how can i find out supported Fsb speed on the motherboard, some cli command ? anyone
[21:10] <astraljava> Juo: Not that you shouldn't ask here, but you might also get good answers on #ubuntu-server.
[21:10] <Polah> Juo: You could set up a cron to run every X minutes and write command output to a file in your web directory which you can then pull up in a web browser
[21:11] <BluesKaj> w3bcrawler, what else ?
[21:11] <Juo> I've just seen some GUI stuff mostly for networking that draws pretty graphs and stuff, just can't remember the name of the tool :(
[21:11] <w3bcrawler> service type.. and if i select windows share it asks me for a share name
[21:12] <astraljava> Juo: Also, here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Servers you can find a few monitoring tools for servers.
[21:12] <Polah> Juo: There's things like GNOME System Monitor which show graphs and suchlike, but they require GUI interfaces which are less than ideal if you're running a production server
[21:12] <Juo> yeah I have no monitor :P
[21:13] <Juo> sweet i found it http://oss.oetiker.ch/mrtg/
[21:15] <w3bcrawler> hahahah BluesKaj i think i got it working.
[21:16] <w3bcrawler> i tried smb4k (some network browser for kde) and it seems to have worked off the bat
[21:16] <w3bcrawler> keyword = seems.. brb :)
[21:18] <chenthu> guys do u know how to uninstall a particular usb driver?
[21:18] <w3bcrawler> great now it's telling me there's no address associated with the hostname.
[21:18] <POVaddct> chenthu: if it is part of the kernel-image package, you don't uninstall it. you blacklist it.
[21:19] <w3bcrawler> even though it clearly shows me the IP in smb4k
[21:20] <chenthu> POVaddct: not a part of kernel-image pack...its just my usb GSM modem that i use to tether internet from my android phone...it was working previojusly but now it is not so i wan to uninstall adn reinstall it
[21:20] <w3bcrawler> i'm starting to see why people use windows >.>
[21:21] <chenthu> POVaddct: so u now how?
[21:23] <POVaddct> chenthu: man 5 modprobe.conf
[21:23] <IdleOne> !blacklist
[21:23] <w3bcrawler> i can't access my windows share via linux or my linux share via windows
[21:24] <chenthu> POVaddct: it says man: command not found
[21:24] <BluesKaj> w3bcrawler, I use kde (kubuntu) and smb is all that's needed to connect to windows shares  fro my linux pc to wife's W7 pc , as long as the folders are shared and the proper username and pw are used ...the same should work in gnome
[21:24] <w3bcrawler> so you just installed smb and it just worked?
[21:25] <Hot2Trot> Right now I'm running 11.04 on a virtual machine on my mac, and the problem I'm having is that whenever I suspend the virtual machine, I will come back and if I have an sshfs mount going in a directory, when I try to ls the directory that contains the mount, it just hangs (ie just blank cursor).  Is there any sshfs -o thing I can do to cure this?
[21:25] <POVaddct> chenthu: read what ubottu said
[21:25] <BluesKaj> and used the "add network folder " option , w3
[21:26] <BluesKaj> w3bcrawler,^
[21:26] <BluesKaj> bbl... gotta setup the BBQ
[21:26] <w3bcrawler> the add network folder being in nautilus?
[21:27] <BluesKaj> dolphin=nautlius in kde, w3bcrawler
[21:27] <BluesKaj> unless someone else has time to help w3bcrawler ..?
[21:28] <BluesKaj> bbl
[21:28] <w3bcrawler> it's fine im gonna throw this fuckin piece of shit out the window
[21:28] <chenthu> POVaddct: i cant blacklist i havde to reinstall...if i black list it will just disable it
[21:28] <IdleOne> w3bcrawler: Please don't curse in this channel
[21:29] <Hot2Trot> w3bcrawler: is your problem involving samba? I may actually be able to help you, but I came in too late to see your question
[21:30] <POVaddct> chenthu: so why is disabling not enough?
[21:30] <w3bcrawler> yeah. trying to network ubuntu -> windows 7.. it's just not working out. i installed smb4k
[21:30] <w3bcrawler> i can see the other network but i keep getting errors over and over
[21:30] <ikonia> w3bcrawler: can the two machines see each other
[21:30] <w3bcrawler> yup
[21:30] <ikonia> w3bcrawler: eg: can you ping each other
[21:31] <w3bcrawler> ping, i'm not quite sure, but when i browse the network on either machine i can see the other
[21:31] <ikonia> w3bcrawler: what is the actual problem you are having ?
[21:31] <Hot2Trot> w3bcrawler: i'm not so hot at windows 7... but do you think your problem is configuration maybe?
[21:31] <Hot2Trot> w3bcrawler: ie smb.conf
[21:31] <Hot2Trot> w3bcrawler: therin lies all problems
[21:31] <w3bcrawler> Unable to Mount Location: unable to retrieve share list from server
[21:32] <chenthu> POVaddct: disabling makes it not work i want it to work by reindstalling the driver
[21:32] <POVaddct> chenthu: why should reinstalling the driver fix anything? this isn't windows
[21:32] <ikonia> w3bcrawler: ok - keep it simple try to make traffic 1 way
[21:32] <w3bcrawler> i can even see the folders that i'm sharing on my windows machine fr linux
[21:32] <Hot2Trot> w3bcrawler: are you logging in with an admin user? Should try that first make sure there aren't weird permissions things going on.  Check the permissions on the files you are sharing on samba
[21:32] <ikonia> w3bcrawler: eg: make the ubuntu machine mount the windows shares, not the windows machine map to ubuntu and the ubuntu machine map to the windows shares
[21:33] <POVaddct> chenthu: if the driver stopped working, it may be a regression introduced by a kernel update
[21:33] <ikonia> w3bcrawler: lets strip it back
[21:33] <w3bcrawler> i'm trying to move files from my linux box to windows so i can format
[21:33] <chenthu> POVaddct: cause previously it worked..so if i re install what ever changes it got made automatically it wil be reverted
[21:33] <ikonia> w3bcrawler: ok, so you have a share on the windows machine ?
[21:33] <w3bcrawler> yup
[21:34] <Hot2Trot> w3bcrawler: you have smb.conf setup correctly?
[21:34] <chenthu> POVaddct: no kernel update possible...as i have not updated anything including automatic upadte
[21:34] <ikonia> Hot2Trot: smb.conf is for the server, he's not using the server at this time
[21:34] <w3bcrawler> apparently not cuz it's not working lol :)
[21:34] <ikonia> w3bcrawler: what is the share name ?
[21:34] <Hot2Trot> ikonia: is the ubuntu box not the server?
[21:34] <ikonia> Hot2Trot: no, the windows machine is, he's trying to map windows shares onto his uubntu machine
[21:34] <Hot2Trot> ikonia: ahhhhhhhh
[21:35] <Hot2Trot> ikonia: it would be easy to make the ubuntu box a samba server and then just drag from windows 7 machine onto ubuntu machine
[21:35] <POVaddct> chenthu: okay. you cannot reinstall the driver separate, you must reinstall the package the driver belongs to. linux-image-<your_kernel_version>
[21:35] <ikonia> Hot2Trot: why is that easier ?
[21:35] <w3bcrawler> share name is W3BCRAWLER
[21:36] <Hot2Trot> ikonia: samba is straight forward? I'm not sure why the connection has to go one way and not the other
[21:36] <w3bcrawler> workgroup  = workgroup (creative, i know)
[21:36] <ikonia> w3bcrawler: what is the ip address of the windows machine ?
[21:36] <chenthu> POVaddct:  ok then thats what i am gonna do.. :)
[21:36] <ikonia> Hot2Trot: it doesn't have to go one way, however if the user is ew, making it simple with 1 way traffic is logical
[21:36] <Hot2Trot> w3bcrawler: let me get this straight, your end goal is to just get files off your windows 7 machine and ONTO an ubuntu mahine?
[21:36] <w3bcrawler> 10.0.0.2 / 255.255.255.248
[21:37] <POVaddct> w3bcrawler: if i had to move files bewtween windows and linux, i'd install openssh-server on the linux box and use winscp on the windows box
[21:37] <w3bcrawler> the other way around, hot2
[21:37] <Hot2Trot> POVaddct: ding!
[21:37] <edbian> Hot2Trot: w3bcrawler For a one time transfer scp or a jump drive is definitely easier
[21:37] <w3bcrawler> i have ~500gb of data to copy
[21:37] <phil_s_stein> Ubuntu 11.04 seems to be ignoring my _netdev option in /etc/fstab when trying to mount an NFS3 drive at boot up. Anyone have an idea why?
[21:37] <Hot2Trot> w3bcrawler: winscp will resume if something happens for any reason
[21:38] <POVaddct> w3bcrawler: so what? smb may be even slower, because it's a crappy protocol
[21:38] <Hot2Trot> w3bcrawler: 1. go to ubuntu machine and do sudo apt-get install ssh 2. go to windows machine and download and install winscp
[21:38] <w3bcrawler> i was referring to the flash drive
[21:38] <ikonia> Hot2Trot: thats what you need for someone who's new to ubuntu, more workin in the command line on the ubuntu machine and the linux machine
[21:38] <ikonia> Hot2Trot: the request to map 1 windows drive to allow him to drag and drop is not unreasonable
[21:38] <POVaddct> w3bcrawler: ah okay
[21:39] <Hot2Trot> just sudo apt-get install ssh is the only command
[21:39] <ikonia> Hot2Trot: no it's not
[21:39] <POVaddct> Hot2Trot: yeah, ssh is the metapackage
[21:39] <Hot2Trot> ikonia: then winscp will let you drag and rop
[21:39] <w3bcrawler> what is the 2 adfter the apt-get install ssh 2
[21:39] <POVaddct> Hot2Trot: ssh depends on openssh-client and openssh-server
[21:39] <ikonia> Hot2Trot: hows that going to deal with any files owned by other users ? eg: root
[21:40] <Hot2Trot> w3bcrawler: type this exactly in a prompt without the quotes "sudo apt-get install ssh"
[21:40] <ikonia> Hot2Trot: tell you waht, you help him as you seem to insist that a simple network share is not the way to go
[21:40] <w3bcrawler> ah k he put the 2 by mistake
[21:40] <Hot2Trot> ikonia: anyone who can barely use windows can use winscp, and anyone can type "sudo apt-get install ssh"
[21:40] <POVaddct> ikonia: smb share are a nightmare since win 7
[21:41] <Hot2Trot> now my question
[21:41] <ikonia> POVaddct: works fine here
[21:41] <Hot2Trot> Right now I'm running 11.04 on a virtual machine on my mac, and the problem I'm having is that whenever I suspend the virtual machine, I will come back and if I have an sshfs mount going in a directory, when I try to ls the directory that contains the mount, it just hangs (ie just blank cursor).  Is there any sshfs -o thing I can do to cure this?
[21:41] <ikonia> Hot2Trot: please help him before moving onto your question
[21:42] <Hot2Trot> ikonia: ok... I think he's doing his thing as we speak
[21:42] <w3bcrawler> yep i am
[21:42] <w3bcrawler> installing ssh / winscp
[21:43] <w3bcrawler> and openssh-server just for good measure
[21:43] <the_owl> hello how i can enable the wifi
[21:44] <the_owl> ?
[21:44] <letsbefrank> the_owl, specs? server or home?
[21:44] <POVaddct> ikonia: "works for me" does not help w3bcrawler
[21:44] <the_owl> home
[21:44] <ikonia> POVaddct: it does when I was helping him get it working
[21:44] <duga> the_owl: you shuld find networkManager applet
[21:44] <ikonia> POVaddct: in that I know how to get it working and was giving him the info to do so
[21:44] <ikonia> POVaddct: so it does help,
[21:44] <w3bcrawler> k! i've got ssh and winscp installed.. i assume i'll need my ip for my wireless?
[21:45] <duga> the_owl: when you click the picture of the applet, you will see all visible wifi networks
[21:45] <Hot2Trot> w3bcrawler: yes, something along the lines of 192.168.1.*** usually
[21:45] <letsbefrank> applet? I'm missing something.
[21:45] <the_owl> ok thank you
[21:45] <w3bcrawler> got it. put it in hostname for winscp? username/password same as my current account?
[21:46] <Hot2Trot> w3bcrawler: yes, put that ip in your hostname and same username/password you use to login to the computer
[21:46] <w3bcrawler> typed ipconfig like 10 times before i realized it was ifconfg >.>
[21:46] <w3bcrawler> k done. gonna start the ssh server next?
[21:47]  * BluesKaj is happy to see w3bcrawler decide to go with ssh ..hope winscp works on windows7
[21:47] <POVaddct> w3bcrawler: should be started when installing it
[21:47] <Hot2Trot> w3bcrawler: the server should already be going after you installed it
[21:47] <w3bcrawler> k let me give that a shot
[21:48] <meme> hi
[21:49] <w3bcrawler> Hot2Trot: +10 Internets to you, sir.
[21:49] <pooltable> help how do to go to my printer and reprint a page i print on today ?
[21:49] <Hot2Trot> w3bcrawler: thanks, let's hope the karma passes along
[21:50] <w3bcrawler> ;) good luck with your VM issue. many thanks! i'm usually around here so if you need anything (other than samba help cuz i'm screwed on that department) let me know :)
[21:50] <meme> i need something like dropbox but without having to have all files synced to my local machine  as its full
[21:50] <BluesKaj> w3bcrawler, din't realize you has installed smb4k , it's buggy
[21:50] <BluesKaj> er had
[21:52] <Hot2Trot> can anyone tell me how to turn off all the entering and leaving into the channel in irssi?
[21:52] <w3bcrawler> i actually had more progress with smb4k than anything else
[21:52] <POVaddct> Hot2Trot: /ignore -channels #ubuntu * joins parts quits
[21:52] <Hot2Trot> POVaddct: thank you
[21:52] <Hot2Trot> POVaddct: is that permanent
[21:52] <Intel_iX> can someone point to an explanation of passwords an encryptions keys and how to send public keys, which ones are private, how to tell, etc
[21:53] <BluesKaj> w3bcrawler, smb by itself works well , samba is just gui for it
[21:53] <POVaddct> Hot2Trot: if you want that permanent, do /save after that
[21:53] <Hot2Trot> POVaddct: thanks
[21:55] <Hot2Trot> POVaddct: still see people joining and leaving... am I missing something? was I supposed to put that command in some specific window?
[21:55] <POVaddct> Hot2Trot: hmm, maybe my irssi version is a bit older
[21:56] <bosunschair> Could someone recommend a suitably lightweight Remote Desktop / VNC server equivalent for use on lubuntu?
[21:56] <OmegaForte> The in-built one?
[21:57] <OmegaForte> Applications /Internet / Remote Desktop viewer.
[21:57] <POVaddct> Hot2Trot: i don't think the command is window specific
[21:57] <POVaddct> OmegaForte: lubuntu != ubuntu
[21:57] <POVaddct> bosunschair: you might try x11vnc
[21:57] <OmegaForte> POVaddct, Sorry, I didn't see the L. I've got a gun appart infront of me.
[21:58] <pooltable> help how do to go to my printer and reprint a page i print on today ?
[21:58] <ManuelCaveira> hey people, debian noob where, and I have a problem that I'm hoping that anyone on Ubuntu may help me. I installed my debian on a 250 GB and made the partitions according to this tutorial: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/02/17/how-to-dual-boot-debian-6-and-windows-7/  Now i was trying to install some packages and it seems my hard drive is already full. If i use 20 gb on home and 5 gb on root, what is the rest of the 250 gb used for?? Thank in
[21:58] <ManuelCaveira>  advance!
[21:58] <FloodBot1> ManuelCaveira: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:58] <bosunschair> I cannot find "the inbuilt" one.
[21:58] <gamingdroid> what is the point of the /etc/hosts file?
[21:59] <duga> ManuelCaveira: you should tidy your partitions with gparted enlarge the main partition
[21:59] <POVaddct> bosunschair: there is no built-in vnc server in lxde. try installing x11vnc, read the manpage and try it out.
[22:00] <joel135> x11vnc rocks
[22:00] <bosunschair> THank you POVaddct
[22:00] <joel135> gamingdroid: i think it specifies dns servers and blacklisted sites
[22:01] <dr_willis> gamingdroid,  maps hostname to ip#s
[22:01] <BentSpace> can't find the .evolution hidden folder in /home?
[22:01] <ManuelCaveira> duga, thanks in advance. I should enlarge the root partition? If i'm not mistaken, root is used for basically everything related with programs and home is only for my documents/midi files, etc correct? Considering my harddrive is 250 Gb, how much do you think each partition should have? Thanks!
[22:01] <gamingdroid> From what I could figure out, it is actually the file the system goes to first before resolving a domain name with the dns
[22:02] <pooltable> how to i look at my print jobs?
[22:02] <dr_willis> ManuelCaveira,  you dont have to have a seperate /home/  you prob. want at least 10gb for / if not more.. and the rest to /home.
[22:02] <duga> ManuelCaveira: You can also make more partitions f.e /home/, /usr /tmp
[22:02] <odn> hi all
[22:02] <dr_willis> gamingdroid,  theres an order the system uses.. correct.. hosts file is first
[22:03] <odn> http://pastebin.com/5kjeZjQq could smne help me ? i really don't understand why it doesn't work :'(:'(
[22:03] <m1h0> hi there any idea how to run vlc every day at 8 ?
[22:03] <m1h0> pm
[22:03] <POVaddct> actually it hostname resolving order depends on /etc/nsswitch.conf
[22:03] <duga> ManuelaCaveira: currently I have separete partitions for /home , /tmp and /
[22:04] <gamingdroid> joel135 & dr_willis: thanks!
[22:04] <calwig> exit
[22:04] <gamingdroid> stupid question (unrelated to ubuntu), but what is some common subdomains for issue/bug trackers?
[22:05] <ManuelCaveira> dr_willis, yes probably.. I just followed that tutorial that I mentioned earlier and now I just installed  texlive and my synaptic is saying my drive is full so I'm guessing I need to increase the \ partition.. Like I said, my hd is 250 gb, maybe 20 gb to root and the rest to home?
[22:07] <Ddorda_1> Hey guys, grub recognizes 3 Windows installations and i want it to find only 1 of them. what should i do?
[22:07] <Hot2Trot> Right now I'm running 11.04 on a virtual machine on my mac, and the problem I'm having is that whenever I suspend the virtual machine, I will come back and if I have an sshfs mount going in a directory, when I try to ls the directory that contains the mount, it just hangs (ie just blank cursor).  Is there any sshfs -o thing I can do to cure this?
[22:07] <joel135> ManuelCaveira: remember to reserve some free space for nothing, to help defragmenting
[22:07] <zhooravlik> hello, i'm from russia that's why sorry for my English. My trouble is next: after installation burg - the command "sudo apt-get update" get me error "404 page not found" and doesn't update my oackages. I think this appear after command "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:n-muench/burg". How can i fix it???
[22:08] <joel135> ManuelCaveira: so 25gb if you use 20
[22:09] <go87> anybody know what does tis key mean and how it use?
[22:09] <go87> gnome terminal --role=
[22:09] <robin0800> zhooravlik, think you need sudo update-burg
[22:10] <wildbat> zhooravlik: it mean the burg update link is broken ~ unless the server fix it, or you will have to just remove it in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[22:10] <joel135> go87: Set  the  role for the last-specified window; applies to only one window; can be specified once for each window you  create from the command line.
[22:10] <joel135> go87: according to manpages
[22:10] <zhooravlik> i'll try now
[22:11] <ManuelCaveira> joel135, ok, will leave 25 gb free space. Correct me if I'm wrong, but root is used for everything related with programs and home should only be for documents, media files and things like that correct?
[22:12] <joel135> ManuelCaveira: yes. (almost) everything that you don't need admin password for is in the home directory
[22:12] <gamingdroid> so to change the hostname, do I do it in /etc/hostname or /etc/hosts... I see both when googling?
[22:12] <zhooravlik> "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list.d" this doesn't exist and in "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" neither "burg" nor "launchpad".. how can i open full list of repositories?
[22:13] <Frozenpacket> I installed Ubuntu on my other Desktop and the Graphics are messed up i think i may need a driver only way i can see anything is if i turn the special effect off at login
[22:13] <joel135> ManuelCaveira: to change, I mean
[22:13] <r4__> if i want to set a specific CFLAG When installing a package...it seems like i can do something along the lines of "apt-get install slapd -o --enable-wrappers"...is that correct?
[22:14] <joel135> gamingdroid: this is my /etc/hosts: 192.168.1.64	joel-desktop	# Added by NetworkManager, auto-generated by ubuntu
[22:14] <go87> joel135, sorry :( english is not my native :( can you simply explain how to use this key? i need to run terminal or some other program on top position
[22:14] <CaptWho> i need to install the intel drivers for my Intel(r)915GM/915ML/915MS graphics controller.  the drivers are located at http://intellinuxgraphics.org/2011Q1.html, but i'm not totally sure which one to use.  does anyone have any experience with this?
[22:14] <OmegaForte> grep - i go87
[22:14] <OmegaForte> DAMMIT!
[22:14] <OmegaForte> Grep doesn't work in irc.
[22:15] <duga> ManuelCaveira: you should make it with gparted on live-cd and have backuped up all important data
[22:15] <duga> OmegaForte: grep in irc ;-) ?
[22:15] <Frozenpacket> I installed Ubuntu on my other Desktop and the Graphics are messed up i think i may need a driver only way i can see anything is if i turn the special effect off at login if anyone can help please PM me
[22:15] <OmegaForte> duga, Second time I did it without thinking.
[22:16] <go87> OmegaForte, what you try to do with me? O_O
[22:16] <zhooravlik> "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list.d" this doesn't exist and in "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" neither "burg" nor "launchpad".. how can i open full list of repositories? <please pm>
[22:16] <OmegaForte> go87, I tried to find what you were talking about.
[22:17] <ManuelCaveira> duga, joel135 thanks for the help. I will use gparted as soon as I get enough space to install it. Is it safe to use gparted running the program on debian? Not from boot, but running it from the X system?
[22:17] <fa2k> hi, i have installed ipsec-tools and racoon, and set up racoon.conf with a "remote xxxx" section, and restarted racoon, why doesn't it attempt to negotiate ipsec?
[22:18] <derek_> hey everyone
[22:18] <duga> ManuelCaveira: I think, that you cannot do it on running system
[22:18] <zhooravlik> how can i open full list of rep's?
[22:19] <joel135> ManuelCaveira: do it from a live gparted cd
[22:19] <duga> MaunelCaveira: you cannot unmount root filesystem. Try maybe from another systen, better from live-cd
[22:19] <Frozenpacket> Never mind i have to rollback
[22:19] <derek_> I have a Genius PenTablet, and the pen works great natively (as a pointer, not pressure sensitive), but the mouse part doesn't work.  How can I configure Wizardpen? the official ubuntu website makes no sense
[22:19] <duga> ManuelCaveira: and pack the most important data and backup it ;-)
[22:20] <CaptWho> i have ubuntu 10.10.  where can i go to look at the hardware drivers?
[22:20] <duga> ManuelCaveira: you never know what it will happen. but I can say it very seldom happens something bad
[22:20] <duga> CaptWho: in system menu/drivers propertiary
[22:21] <duga> CaptWho: maybe with upgrades
[22:21] <duga> CaptWho: which hardware ?
[22:22] <go87> OmegaForte, i talking about lunching some programms on top position
[22:22] <r4__> is it possible to use apt-get to download source and set a cflag before installing?
[22:23] <go87> OmegaForte, i want to this nor mannually but from terminal with command of lanch
[22:23] <ManuelCaveira> duga, thanks for the help, I don't have any relevant data, I installed yesterday and I'm just starting to put everything as I liked, only afterwards will I start to do proper work on it ;) do you happen to know a online tutorial to use gparted and resize partitions?
[22:26] <go87> OmegaForte, any ideas ?
[22:28] <artifical_24> Ubuntu isn't detecting my wireless card at all
[22:32] <Fleep> I just upgraded my php5-gd (the one that comes with Ubuntu) to the bundled version that PHP needs for several of it's image transformation libraries. I upgraded using the instructions here: http://www.howtoforge.com/recompiling-php5-with-bundled-support-for-gd-on-ubuntu . I'm running Ubuntu on an EC2 instance (Amazon Web Services). Out of nowhere, my upgrade "went away" about 20 hours ago and reverted to the earlier Ubuntu version. I'm go
[22:32] <Fleep> dig into any crons to see if it's doing any automatic update of software -- but does anybody have any idea where I could figure out this issue?
[22:32] <FloodBot1> Fleep: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:32] <Fleep> I didn't flood! T_T
[22:33] <smw> Fleep, ignore the FloodBot ;-)
[22:34] <FarPark> still having trouble deleting things. Maybe it has something to do with the Mega-Region situation
[22:35] <zerocrash> bonjour
[22:35] <FarPark> bonjour
[22:35] <Fleep> I think I found what I was looking for
[22:35] <zerocrash> fr
[22:36] <RaverWild> hi guys. when running debootstrap it start checking "component main on <repository>". problem is in synaptic i changed the repo and even rebooted. but debootstrap seems to use the old repo. so i want to change it. question is where...? help please?
[22:36] <Fleep> My Ubuntu build on EC2 (maybe this is common for all Ubuntu builds?) has a cron that does numerous apt tasks on a regular basis. I'm thinking it's updating PHP and Apt is shitting on my upgrade.
[22:37] <smw> !fr > zerocrash
[22:37] <go87> anybody know how to lunch some programm on top position ?
[22:38] <Fleep> go87: Not sure I understand
[22:39] <Frozenpacket> Does anyone know how to do this ?
[22:39] <Frozenpacket> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4
[22:40] <go87> Fleep, if you lanch for example nauttilus and want top omake it top - you click on it head and make it on top position. this i mean :) (sorry - english not my native)
[22:40] <go87> *sory
[22:43] <mattalexx> t that's supposed to switch the shell of the current user to zsh. How do I do that in a non-interactive way?
[22:43] <go87> anybody know about "top lunching?"
[22:43] <mattalexx> I'm writing a script that's supposed to switch the shell of the current user to zsh. How do I do that in a non-interactive way?
[22:44] <smw> mattalexx, why not just start zsh?
[22:44] <smw> go87, I do not understand your question
[22:45] <artifical_24> Would it matter if I installed the desktop version of ubuntu on a netbook?
[22:45] <go87> smw,  if you lanch for example nauttilus and want to make it top - you click on it head and make it on top position. this i mean :) (sorry - english not my native)
[22:45] <smw> artifical_24, I do not believe there is a separate netbook edition anymore
[22:45] <smw> artifical_24, you are supposed to usee the desktop one
[22:45] <go87> smw, but i want to lanch it top
[22:45] <exalt> hello, i want to reset my homefolder encryption password, as im giving my laptop to my mother, how can i do that ?
[22:46] <ratkinson> hello all, I need to launch chromium-browser --kiosk in ubuntu 11.04 10 seconds after ubuntu starts in order to allow the wireless to connect before the homepage is loaded. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[22:46] <kingspider> o/
[22:46] <exalt> \0
[22:46] <artifical_24> smw: Part of the issue is that I just installed ubuntu on my netbook and.. I noticed it wasn't even noticing my wireless device.
[22:46] <smw> go87, still don't understand... "always on top"?
[22:46] <smw> artifical_24, you may need to install restricted drivers
[22:47] <go87> smw, location - mean. like quake or tilda :)
[22:47] <artifical_24> smw: However I plugged it to a lan connection and its pulling updates right now
[22:47] <RaverWild> where is the list of dpkg repos held? /etc/apt/sources.list and where else? debootstrap seems to read it from another file
[22:47] <smw> start the additional drivers program
[22:47] <smw> go87, you want it at the top of the screen?
[22:47] <smw> go87, you want it in front of other windows?
[22:48] <go87> smw, if i right udrestand you- yes :)
[22:48] <smw> RaverWild, /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ has more sources. No idea where debootstrap gets it from
[22:48] <r4__> so ive downloaded a package via "apt-get source pkg
[22:48] <RaverWild> smw, thanks
[22:48] <r4__> err
[22:49] <r4__> so ive downloaded a package via "apt-get source pkg", ive made the modifications i want, now im not too sure how to install from a directory....do i need to use dpkg or something?
[22:49] <smw> r4__, you need to build the package and then install it with dpkg
[22:50] <artifical_24> smw: Where would I find the addictional drivers program.
[22:50] <r4__> smw: ok. thanks
[22:50] <go87> smw, any ideas?
[22:50] <smw> artifical_24, no idea how to navigate unity. I can tell you the command line way.
[22:50] <artifical_24> smw: Sure
[22:51] <smw> artifical_24, gksu jockey-gtk
[22:51] <artifical_24> smw:
[22:51] <smw> artifical_24, do that after updating package lists
[22:52] <Cerrdor> how do I remove an http proxy I did in the terminal its messing up my curl?
[22:52] <exalt> hello, i want to reset my homefolder encryption password, as im giving my laptop to my mother, how can i do that ?
[22:52] <Cerrdor> I used export http_proxy=
[22:52] <smw> Cerrdor, that should work
[22:52] <smw> Cerrdor, try unset http_proxy
[22:52] <Cerrdor> that will remove the proxy?
[22:52] <Cerrdor> ohhh
[22:52] <smw> Cerrdor, it should
[22:53] <robin0800> exalt, your not going to wipe it?
[22:54] <exalt> robin0800: no, shes not familiar in using computers but through the last serval months she got used to my settings
[22:55] <exalt> robin0800: besides, i got nothing to hide
[22:56] <willmc_productio> does anyone know how to use nasgear network drive with 11.4
[22:56] <go8765432> smw, any ideas about my question ? :)
[22:56] <smw> go8765432, nope
[22:57] <robin0800> exalt, I'm sure your right but why are you using encryption then
[22:58] <exalt> robin0800: not sure why i selected it back then
[22:58] <artifical_24> smw: another thing I did was lspci | grep Network
[22:58] <artifical_24> smw: And my wifi card STILL wont show up even after the update
[22:59] <smw> artifical_24, didn't show up in additional drivers? What about lshw -c network
[22:59] <smw> artifical_24, ifconfig -a?
[23:00] <sibok> Hi, does anyone knows how can i add reiser4 support to the kernel? Without compiling it, maybe an apt-get install something could do it?
[23:01] <ikonia> sibok: you can't
[23:01] <artifical_24> smw: Ever since I took it to geeksquad/bestbuy to have the monitor fixed, they shipped it off somewhere and replaced the monitor but took my hard drive out and replace it and gave me a system with no operating system and my wifi worked then(though I had windows then) but even after those two commands that you told me that I just entered I only see my ethernet hardware
[23:01] <sibok> ikonia: oks :)
[23:01] <mattalexx> Is there a way to output all changed gconf keys?
[23:02] <smw> artifical_24, maybe it is a bios setting to enable wifi? That happens some times
[23:02] <artifical_24> smw: Do you think they took my wireless card out and forgot to put it back in? Is that possible? (If it is I am going to surely **** them up) XD
[23:02] <artifical_24> smw: Checking
[23:04] <q0_0p> does anyone know if tmpfs can be larger than RAM?
[23:04] <artifical_24> smw: Checked. Nothing in the BIOS at all indicated anything much about the wireless except sometype of "Wake-on LAN"
[23:05] <smw> artifical_24, no idea than
[23:05] <smw> sorry
[23:05] <th0r> artifical_24: pastebin lspci
[23:06] <dr_willis> q0_0p: guess it could use swap space. but that seems weird
[23:06] <th0r> artifical_24: if you can't get online with the computer, do lspci -nn | grep Network and see if you can determine what card you have
[23:08] <freezway> i need 1 volunteer to join #freezway
[23:09] <artifical_24_> http://pastebin.com/UgsJpA3z
[23:09] <artifical_24_> smw: http://pastebin.com/UgsJpA3z
[23:10] <th0r> artifical_24_: the wifi card is there.....next to last line. Just need to find what module that card requires.
[23:12] <witeshark> can someone point me in the direction of the 11.04 grub.config location?
[23:12] <Ddorda_1> Hey guys, how do I enable the numpad on GDM? i tried the wiki page suggestions but they just don't work
[23:13] <witeshark> or post the file path?
[23:15] <th0r> artifical_24_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604101
[23:19] <artifical_24_> th0r: Funny you mentioned that.. cause that link retains to a Toshiba and this problems that I am having now retains to a toshiba nb505 netbook. lol
[23:21] <greyfiend> hey I'm getting periodic mouse freezes in ubuntu studio 11.04 on a thinkpad l520. Freezes happen every few minutes and lasy about 5 secs, the keyboard is still functional during the freeze and using an external mouse behaves the same, any help would be greatly appreciated.
[23:21] <dr_willis> !grub2 | witeshark
[23:22] <th0r> artifical_24_: that link refers to a location to download the necessary driver. You should do a 'locate rtl8188ce.ko' to see if the module is present. If not, download the source and compile it.
[23:23] <dr_willis> !find rtl8188ce.ko
[23:23] <witeshark> dr_willis: thanks -
[23:23] <th0r> dr_willis: thought the locate was worth a shot <smile>
[23:24] <dr_willis> dont look good. guides may be old also
[23:24] <dr_willis> !find rtl8188
[23:24] <rubenjr> does any know how i can resize my hard drive
[23:24] <dr_willis> could also be a digferent name
[23:25] <dr_willis> rubenjr:  resize partitions with gparted normally
[23:25] <rubenjr> dr_willis, im sorry im new to ubuntu imnot sure what gparted is
[23:26] <dr_willis> a tool to do what you asked
[23:26] <Delrayne> im trying to make a file an executable for WINE but everytime I mark the 'this file is an executable' it immediately unchecks itself...anyone got any ideas?
[23:26] <dr_willis> Delrayne:  use    wine  /path/to/file.exe
[23:26] <Delrayne> sorry the 'allow file for executing'
[23:26] <witeshark> dr_willis: how do i modify the instructions there if i do not dual boot? Ubuntu only
[23:26] <mattalexx> Is there a way to output all changed gconf keys?
[23:27] <dr_willis> you cant change modes on ntfsZ/ vfat filedystems
[23:27] <edbian> Delrayne: What happens if you do it in the term?
[23:27] <dr_willis> exeot at mount time
[23:27] <witeshark> i have grub 1.97
[23:27] <dr_willis> witeshark:  thats grub2
[23:28] <witeshark> dr_willis: how do i modify the instructions there if i do not dual boot? Ubuntu only
[23:28] <dr_willis> whit rhe cinfig files are the same
[23:28] <witeshark> okay
[23:28] <dr_willis>    / etc/default/grub
[23:28] <Delrayne> edbian: I don't know how to do in the terminal.
[23:29] <dr_willis>  see grub2 dics and forum threads
[23:29] <edbian> Delrayne: sudo chmod +x /path/to/file
[23:29] <dr_willis> Delrayne:  whst filesystem is the file on?
[23:30] <rubenjr> dr_willis, for omstance i have a 500gn hard drive and im doing half ubuntu and half windows 7,. is there any way to make the whole whole hard drive ubuntu without reinstalling it
[23:30] <exalt> hello, i want to reset my homefolder encryption password, as im giving my laptop to my mother, how can i do that ?
[23:30] <rubenjr> dr_willis, idc bout the windows partition
[23:30] <dr_willis> rubenjr:  use gparted resize.the linuz.partitiobs
[23:31] <dr_willis> rubenjr:  then you cant chmod the file
[23:31] <Delrayne> dr_willis: its on the windows side of my partition...as far as the filing system i don't recall what I did it as.
[23:31] <dr_willis> use   wine path/TO/file.exe
[23:31] <rubenjr> dr_willis, is there any way you could walk me through it
[23:31] <Viking667> 'llo all. I'm having a devil of a time trying to get 3D acceleration to work on my HD3450 with the ati driver. I seem to be missing these extensions:
[23:31] <Viking667>  GL_ARB_vertex_shader, GL_ARB_fragment_shader, GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc
[23:31] <dr_willis> rubenjr:  gparted has docs and guides.
[23:32] <dr_willis> i am on my phone.. so no i cant walk youe through it
[23:32] <Delrayne> dr_willis: tried that...wine: cannot fine 'path/to/file.exe
[23:32] <Viking667> And as far as I know, they're actually present in the Windows driver, but a game I'm trying to run under Linux (Cogs) says they're not there under Linux (Natty)
[23:32] <dr_willis> Delrayne:  use the a tual  path?
[23:32] <edbian> Delrayne: Replace /path/to/file.exe with the actual path
[23:32] <rubenjr> u have this program on your phone?
[23:32] <dr_willis> actual path..
[23:32] <Delrayne> edbian that sudo chmod didn't get me anywhere either.
[23:33] <dr_willis> rubenjr:  i irc from my android yes
[23:33] <Viking667> and I've also got something broken that I can't (yet) identify... to do with glxinfo not reading that r600_dri.so is in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/dri/  instead of /usr/lib/dri/
[23:33] <edbian> Delrayne: Well did you replace the path in that command as well?
[23:33] <witeshark> dr_willis: mount | tail -1 results in /dev/sda2 on /hd type vfat (rw)
[23:33] <Delrayne> edbian: sudo chmod +x OS/Documents\ and\ Settings/Dustin/Desktop/Silk\ Bot
[23:34] <_eddie_> i have accidentally set the default application for opening files with xdg-open to be deluge torrent client and i need to change it to nautilus. how can i do that?
[23:34] <StevenXL> Can someone recommend a light linux system that I can run inside windows 7. Sort of like Portable ubuntu, but more light-weight.
[23:34] <erpo> Hi. I'm trying to pair my wiimote with my Ubuntu 10.10 laptop, but it's not pairing. Each time I try it says "Setting up 'Nintendo RVL-CNT-01' failed".
[23:34] <StevenXL> Maybe a Damn Small Linux type of size.
[23:34] <dr_willis> you do not use chmod or chown on files on a ntfs/vfat filesystem.....
[23:34] <erpo> I'm using the bluetooth widget on the gnome panel, by the way.
[23:34] <edbian> Delrayne: Did it give you any error?  Try to run the file again with wine.  If it gives the same error please pastebin sudo ls OS/Documents\ and\ Settings/Dustin/Desktop/
[23:35] <improveupon> can anyone recommend a visual traceroute program?
[23:35] <StevenR> StevenXL: what about running Xubuntu (are you lookin for something to run in a VM ?)
[23:35] <edbian> StevenR: Puppy.  But this is offtopic
[23:35] <edbian> dr_willis: Is this vfat?
[23:35] <dr_willis> edbian:  he said it was his windows drive
[23:36] <edbian> dr_willis: Well windows drive does not necessarily mean vfat
[23:36] <edbian> dr_willis: It could be windows 7 with ntfs...
[23:36] <dr_willis> or ntfs...
[23:36] <_eddie_> ok i found it :D https://bugs.launchpad.net/exo/+bug/775640/comments/10
[23:36] <StevenXL> StevenR: Xbuntu has a Portable ubuntu port?
[23:36] <dr_willis> and you dont chmod ntfs either
[23:36] <dw-> StevenXL: Lubuntu rox
[23:36] <Delrayne> edbian, dr_willis: vista windows oz
[23:36] <Delrayne> os rather
[23:36] <Viking667> heh. Pretty likely it's NTFS
[23:37] <edbian> Delrayne: vfat or ntfs? What about my previous questions?
[23:37] <Delrayne> and the sudo ls gave me the same error as the sudo chmod
[23:37] <StevenR> StevenXL: what do you mean "portable port" ?
[23:37] <artifical_24_> th0r: I am getting an error when building -> http://pastebin.com/xhWjbM0f
[23:37] <Viking667> edbian: what was the exact problem again?
[23:37] <dr_willis> Delrayne: use the wine from command line. use tab key to complete names properly. caase is imporntat
[23:37] <edbian> Viking667: He can't execute some files with wine
[23:37] <Viking667> ah huh?
[23:37] <dr_willis> Delrayne:  chmod will NOT work
[23:37] <Delrayne> ok
[23:37] <Viking667> says it's not an executable program, right?
[23:38] <edbian> dr_willis: ??  It will if it's ntfs won't it?
[23:38] <edbian> Viking667: Ask him.
[23:38] <StevenXL> StevenR: http://lifehacker.com/5195999/portable-ubuntu-runs-ubuntu-inside-windows
[23:38] <Delrayne> yes its says that Viking667
[23:38] <dr_willis> edbian:  no..
[23:38] <Viking667> Hm. did you mount the drive noexec?
[23:38] <edbian> dr_willis: a-ha!  Can linux change ntfs file permissions at all then?
[23:38] <Viking667> s/drive/partition/
[23:38] <Delrayne> no idea...i'm fresh to linux
[23:38] <dr_willis> UNLESS you mount the ntfs/vfat with the nasty option to make everything executable
[23:38] <Viking667> edbian: it can, but only in certain ways.
[23:39] <dr_willis> edbian:  at MOUNT time.. for all files..
[23:39] <edbian> Viking667: He came here saying that he would check 'this file is executable' but it would uncheck itself
[23:39] <Viking667> Delrayne: so, what did you get when you typed "mount | grep ntfs"
[23:39] <edbian> dr_willis: a=-ha :)
[23:39] <artifical_24_> brb
[23:39] <Viking667> edbian: heh. Figures.
[23:39] <artifical_24> brb
[23:39] <StevenR> StevenXL: oh. well, there might be a lighter version for lubuntu or something
[23:39] <Delrayne> i got nothing from 'mount | grep ntfs'
[23:39] <dr_willis> so.. use  cd to where the exe is at and use wine whatever.exe    easyest way
[23:40] <Viking667> hm. Weird.
[23:40] <dr_willis> ntfs uses tfs3g and fuse. normally
[23:40] <Viking667> Did you happen to say if this was your primary Vista drive? (i.e. C:)
[23:40] <Viking667> or an external USB drive that Windows uses, a la D:?
[23:40] <Delrayne> well I'm trying to 'cd OS' that the mounted drive...and it says it doesn't exist
[23:41] <Viking667> Delrayne: check what you have in the top directory of that drive, for starters
[23:41] <Delrayne> its the HDD not a usb or external
[23:41] <Viking667> Delrayne: right.
[23:41] <dr_willis> Delrayne:  it may be /media/os
[23:41] <Kevlar1> I'm having problems starting ubuntu on my G2 android phone.
[23:41] <Viking667> what's in /hd   then?
[23:41] <Kevlar1> I have a post on xda detailing my problem
[23:42] <Fudge> hi, are there any roundrobin for countries for launchpad
[23:42] <edbian> Kevlar1: Ubuntu only runs on x86 is the phone x86?  How are you even booting ubuntu on this device to do an install in the first place?
[23:42] <Viking667> edbian: ha. THat wasn't what I first thought. My thought was: when the @#%% did Ubuntu get an ARM target?
[23:42] <Kevlar1> Gimme a sec, I'm going to hop on irc on my computer
[23:42] <edbian> Viking667: haha :)
[23:43] <edbian> Kevlar1: Ok
[23:43] <Viking667> Given that quite a few androids _seem_ to use ARM processors.
[23:43] <aatifh> Has anybody tried this? http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2833877
[23:43] <Delrayne> alright, I've finally made it to the file I want to run...
[23:43] <Delrayne> next command?
[23:43] <Viking667> yay.
[23:43] <mattalexx> Is there a way to tell for sure what gconf values are being changed when I use System > Pref > Appearence or other gui dialogs?
[23:43] <Viking667> Delrayne: what's its path?
[23:44] <Delrayne> /media/OS/Documents and Settings/Dustin/Desktop/Silk Bot$
[23:44] <Viking667> ... and what's its name?
[23:44] <Viking667> ugh. BOT. yuck.
[23:44] <Delrayne> mb-core.exe
[23:44] <Viking667> that's not a Vista drive...
[23:44] <Flash_Jordan> okay im here, heres the link to my xda post:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1197450
[23:44] <Viking667> ... at least, not originally.
[23:45] <Viking667> Did you try under /media/OS/Users/Dustin/Desktop/Silk Bot  ?
[23:45] <Viking667> Delrayne: those questions were at you, by the way.
[23:45] <Delrayne> i'm in the file...i just need the syntax to run it with wine.
[23:45] <Viking667> you're probably not in the right place.
[23:45] <Delrayne> sorry in the folder
[23:46] <dr_willis> wine foo.exe
[23:46] <dr_willis> not complex..
[23:46] <Viking667> Delrayne: please. Humour me. Check that last path I pointed you to.
[23:46] <Viking667> dr_willis: Vista went the Mac route, changed "\Documents and Settings" into "\Users"
[23:47] <Viking667> ... though I note they didn't try and create a \Volumes
[23:47] <Viking667> oh, and "Documents and Settings" got made into a junction.
[23:47] <Delrayne> alright i've got the program running in wine...went to the file using the path you defined with gui and it had permission issues too.
[23:48] <Viking667> Delrayne: well, gee. Are you SURE this drive runs Vista?
[23:48] <Flash_Jordan> Im sorry, but who was it that answered my question about 4 minutes ago? when i transferred from irc from my phone to computer i never looked at the username.... can i get a link to the irc logs?
[23:48] <Delrayne> Its got everything on it that I use in windows...
[23:48] <Viking667> Delrayne: which version of Windows though?
[23:48] <Delrayne> Vista.
[23:49] <Viking667> and, what does "mount | grep "OS" show?
[23:49] <Delrayne> without a doubt vista
[23:49] <nu7hatch> hey guys, any autotools users around?
[23:49]  * Viking667 runs screaming from the channel! Oh no!!!!
[23:49] <Delrayne> /dev/sda3 on /media/OS type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096,default_permissions)
[23:49] <Viking667> hm. That answers that question, at least.
[23:50] <Delrayne> i repartitioned the HDD before the install if that helps.
[23:50] <Viking667> Yeah. When you next get back to Windows, try going to "C:" in Explorer, then try going into "Documents and Settings"
[23:50] <Viking667> Explorer won't let you do so.
[23:50] <nu7hatch> can someone explain me why on  all envs (even on f* mac), autoreconf runs libtoolize by default, but on ubuntu no?
[23:50]  * Viking667 shrugs
[23:50] <nu7hatch> autotools have the same version across all envs
[23:50] <Delrayne> haha, haven't ran windows since the install...just had it there so far as a back up or last resort.
[23:51] <witeshark> dr_willis: i think it worked
[23:51] <Flash_Jordan> I have successfully installed ubuntu onto my G2 but once i restart my phone, i cant seem to get back into VNC
[23:52] <Flash_Jordan> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1197450
[23:52] <Viking667> Delrayne: heh. So, you haven't booted up Vista at all?
[23:52] <witeshark> can someone please refresh me on the save boot record command after rebooting?
[23:52] <Viking667> oooooo boy.
[23:52] <Delrayne> i did once to make sure it still worked. but not since.
[23:53] <Viking667> well, a bit of stuff got moved around. They dumped the whole "My Photos"/"My Videos"/... with simply "Photos", "Videos", but stuck junction points in...
[23:54] <Viking667> junction points are a bit like symlinks, but Explorer doesn't navigate them, so it errors and says you can't access "My Photos"... even though you could start up a command shell and CD into the junction point fine.
[23:55] <Viking667> I found that out the hard way, when I got my first taste of Vista.
[23:56] <Viking667> Still, there's one thing to be said for the reorganise. less spaces in a path name.
[23:57] <Viking667> anyhow, I'm going to dump off this IRC server and come back to another one.
[23:58] <D3814N> gnome-panel doesn't autolad at startup anymore, I deleted .conf .gconf .gnome2 and still no success. Can someone pls help me out?
[23:59] <leafcutter9000> D3814N: Add it to your startup applications