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[06:04] <xubuntu_novice-s> Hi, I have a question, but I couldn't find the right answer: I have ATI video card with VGA & DVI. Also i have two monitors: 1st connected to DVI, 2nd to VGA. What can I do to achieve dual screen working?
[06:12] <Wizard> hi
[06:13] <Wizard> xubuntu_novice-s, ping
[06:13] <Wizard> you have few options, if this is not nvidia you may use xrandr for managing screens
[06:14] <Wizard> open terminal and type xrandr to check if everyting is detected correctly
[06:14] <xubuntu_novice-s> yes, VGA-0 connected DVI-0 connected
[06:14] <Wizard> if it is you will find screen settings in menu → settings → settings manager → screen
[06:16] <Wizard> it is rather poor and does not have many options
[06:16] <Wizard> alternatively, you may install lxrandr from repo
[06:16] <xubuntu_novice-s> not the one i need
[06:16] <Wizard> it is small and should fit your needs
[06:17] <Wizard> no, lxrandr does not have these options too?
[06:17] <Wizard> strange
[06:17] <xubuntu_novice-s> i'll try to install it and try
[06:18] <xubuntu_novice-s> lxrandr can only set resolution, turn on-off and refresh rate
[06:19] <Wizard> and what do you need exactly?
[06:19] <xubuntu_novice-s> the same options as in settings manager
[06:19] <xubuntu_novice-s> i need to have different images on two monitors
[06:19] <xubuntu_novice-s> now i have the same
[06:19] <Wizard> hmm
[06:20] <Wizard> dammit :/
[06:20] <Wizard> this should be reported as a bug in launchpad, I think
[06:20] <Wizard> I'll do this later
[06:22] <Wizard> there are other tools for changing that, wait a second, I'm browsing repo :)
[06:22] <xubuntu_novice-s> ok, i'm waiting
[06:24] <Wizard> gnome-control-center package has gnome-display properties tool
[06:24] <Wizard> it may pull a bit of dependencies, but not much
[06:25] <Wizard> uh, gnome-display-properties is the name of this tool, sorry ;)
[06:26] <xubuntu_novice-s> hmm i searched repo too and found "arandr"
[06:26] <xubuntu_novice-s> when waiting for answer
[06:27] <xubuntu_novice-s> and now i have two different image on my lcd's
[06:27] <Wizard> lol
[06:27] <Wizard> pretty simple and ugly tool, but seems it has everything xrandr protocol can do
[06:28] <Wizard> so, you solved it by yourself
[06:28] <Wizard> do you have launchpad account?
[06:29] <xubuntu_novice-s> with little help from you (i haven't thought about searching in repo)
[06:29] <xubuntu_novice-s> so thanks for helping
[06:30] <xubuntu_novice-s> so have a nice day
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[12:05] <jnsl_> anyone know how to make cairo dock workspace switcher work?
[13:35] <jnsl_> how can i set alpha of indicator space on panel ? =)
[13:36] <Sysi> "alpha"?
[13:37] <Sysi> oh, transparency of indicator-applet you mean? I think it's a bit broken, goes only with "foreground" transparency
[13:49] <jnsl_> Ok =)
[15:30] <orngjce223> i
[15:31] <knome> you
[15:46] <jnsl_> is overlapping toolbars possible in xubuntu ?
[15:47] <charlie-tca> like one on top of the other?
[15:48] <charlie-tca> or should I say, it depends on the application
[15:48] <charlie-tca> toolbars are mostly controlled by each application, not by Xubuntu
[15:50] <jnsl_> Most applications in ubuntu, say firefox, have the toolbar integrated with the panel, can i do the same with xubuntu ?
[15:50] <jnsl_> global menus i think its called right ?
[15:51] <Sysi> try gnome2-globalmenu from webupd8 ppa
[15:52] <jnsl_> oki thanks
[15:52] <Sysi> it might have been built without xfce support, then you' need to compile yourself
[15:53] <jnsl_> Sysi i found this post: http://askubuntu.com/questions/11490/global-menu-applet-on-maverick/11591#11591, you reckon its still valid ?
[15:54] <Sysi> can't ope, using phone
[15:55] <Sysi> some version of that plugin is incompatible with xfce, see launchpas page about adding ppa
[16:06] <charlie-tca> anything is possible, with enough effort
[17:25] <Wizard> hi
[17:36] <Wizard> anybody arround?
[17:36] <Wizard> around*
[17:37] <charlie-tca> !anybody
[17:37] <ubottu> A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.
[17:37] <Besogon> huh... The only thing which upset me is unsupported UbuntuOne (not integrated into Thunat)
[17:37] <Besogon> thunar
[17:38] <charlie-tca> Dropbox works
[17:38] <Wizard> dropbox has shitty license
[17:38] <Wizard> !poll
[17:38] <ubottu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[17:39] <charlie-tca> Normally, I support Ubuntu, but when they refuse to support us before android and iphone and windows, I find that real hard to do.
[17:39] <charlie-tca> !language | Wizard
[17:39] <ubottu> Wizard: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[17:39] <Wizard> :<
[17:40] <Wizard> ok, what should I do to join translation team?
[17:40] <Wizard> are there any specific language tests or something?
[17:40] <Besogon> Still Xfce is the best alternative to gnome and Unity. LXDE is shit.
[17:40] <charlie-tca> um, not that I know of. But I do not know who to contact, either
[17:41] <charlie-tca> !language | Besogon
[17:41] <ubottu> Besogon: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[17:41] <Sysi> lxde is light, and all bad that comes with it
[17:41] <Wizard> :S
[17:41] <Sysi> nautilus works with xfce and ubuntuone with it?
[17:41] <charlie-tca> Wizard: maybe an email to David Plantella would get more info. He is in charge of translations at Canonical
[17:42] <charlie-tca> Nautilus has issues in Xubuntu. Since we don't run gnome-desktop, and nautilus really wants to control it, it doesn't always work
[17:42] <Besogon> sorry. I didn't think it wasn't polite because the word is so frequently was listened on TV that became ordinary for me
[17:43] <charlie-tca> Yeah, I know that feeling, too. Thanks for trying anyway
[17:43] <Sysi> many canonical guys don't care about anything non-gnome.. kubuntu guys would like ubuntuone too
[17:43] <Wizard> hmm
[17:44] <charlie-tca> Kubuntu has an ubuntu one interface
[17:44] <charlie-tca> But not because anyone connected to UbuntuOne helped them with it
[17:44] <charlie-tca> They are busy writing the windows and iphone interfaces instead
[17:45] <Wizard> yeah..
[17:45] <Wizard> I use git for such thing
[17:45] <Wizard> maybe it's lame, but works everywhere
[17:45] <pleia2> they've actually opened up ubuntu one dev stuff with apis: https://one.ubuntu.com/developer/
[17:45] <pleia2> so it should be easier moving forward to make non-gnome apps
[17:46] <charlie-tca> I really tried to make UbuntuOne work, and after three different times, went with dropbox. license may not be the best, but it does work.
[17:49] <Wizard> does ubuntu one have cli client?
[17:50] <Unit193> Terminal? Menu > Accessories > Terminal Emulator
[17:50] <Unit193> Wow...
[17:50] <Wizard> ee...
[17:51] <Unit193> Wizard: Yeah, I just read that again. There is a way to get it to work on "servers" (From Terminaal)
[17:52] <Wizard> too much effort
[17:52] <charlie-tca> yes, it does have a cli client.
[17:54] <Wizard> me goes afk
[17:54] <Wizard> see you later
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[19:25] <jnsl_> a commandline for disabling compiz in xubuntu ?
[19:31] <charlie-tca> compiz is not installed in Xubuntu
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[20:39] <Mandrew> hiya
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