[00:11] anyone know why times new roman isn't showing in librewriter? i have ttmscorefonts installed but none of the ms core fonts are displaying as usable [00:12] raevin: I know [00:12] MaximLevitsky: this wouldn't be an issue if i didn't need it for school, lol [00:12] raevin: thats because ubuntu has totaly fucked-up fontconfig setting [00:13] Honestly I didn't know how to fix it [00:13] MaximLevitsky: is there a way to fix it?? [00:13] I just removed the offending fonts [00:13] i don't even know what's offending it tho o.o [00:13] raevin: its hard to fix really [00:14] me nether, I had that issue with PDFs [00:14] and about o.o, really install ms office [00:14] I had so much issues with O.O that I decided its not worth the pain [00:14] but i got away from that, so i thought T_T lol [00:15] i've found libre to be different in some aspects but i understand [00:15] i might install office then [00:15] in fact if the O.O were to be nuked, vaporized and relicensed under a draconic license Linux would benifit [00:16] MaximLevitsky: you really hate openoffice, don't you? [00:16] raevin: Yep [00:17] The point with O.O is that is not just bug ridden, but is mess of the code so nobody touches it [00:17] raevin: you have to do a "sudo fc-cache" after installing fonts [00:17] ppq: thanks, i'll try that [00:17] ppq: any reason as to why? [00:17] And yet its very hard competetior to other office suites cause it has lot of features that others has to cactch to [00:18] ppq: that won't help [00:18] if that doesn't help, try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig" [00:18] I fought with that once all day [00:18] fonconfig just insists to pick wrong fonts [00:19] ppq: running fc-cache didn't do anything, trying dpkg now [00:19] raevin: you have to restart x or update the font cache manually after installing fonts. i don't know why it is like that.. [00:19] I rather use small but bug free office suite that officilly says it has NO doc support that use buggy as hell office suite like O.O [00:19] raevin: you have to restart openoffice/libreoffice, as well [00:19] It really sets Linux back [00:20] Linux developer should really pick the time proven strategy, focus one one thing and do that well [00:20] i've restarted X many times tho since i installed mscorefonts, and it still hasn't done anything :/ not even dpkg-reconfigure [00:20] ppq: i've also restarted libreoffice after each command [00:21] And rather improve Ofice support in wine [00:21] office 07 and 10 work just fine for me in wine MaximLevitsky [00:21] Like iPad doesn't have office [00:21] Yet peoples buy it... [00:21] raevin: good to know [00:22] MaximLevitsky: going to assume that wasn't a smartass response... [00:22] raevin: sure [00:22] strange.. libreoffice works for me. so does ttf-mscorefonts-installer [00:23] ppq: is there a way to reinstall ttf? maybe it got corrupt some how [00:23] ppq: what says 'fc-match "Times"' [00:23] fc-match "Times" [00:23] and [00:23] fc-match "Symbol" [00:23] give me a minute, i have to boot my ubuntu machine [00:24] Especially harmfull was that Nimbus N9 font I remember [00:24] MaximLevitsky: that's what times shows for me [00:24] raevin: then nuke it [00:25] MaximLevitsky: not exactly sure i can fit a 10-ton (if not more) weapon inside of a sata hard drive... [00:25] raevin: :-) [00:26] I moved /usr/share/fonts/type1/gsfonts to /usr/share/fonts/type1/.zrem/gsfonts [00:26] Thats a bit barbaric, but works fine [00:27] its comes from gs-fonts package and its not removeable [00:27] also I removed 'ttf-symbol-repalcement' [00:27] that thing has just wrong symbols [00:27] even without ms fonts other symbols fonts that kick it are better [00:28] fixed it a lot easier than doing that [00:28] uninstall/reinstall mscorefonts [00:28] <3 [00:28] raevin: dunno, I tried that [00:28] MaximLevitsky: worked for me :D now to uninstall officeshit [00:29] raevin: and what about fc-match "Times" [00:29] still n021003l.pfb: "Nimbus Roman No9 L" "Regular" [00:30] So, its still there to bite you, but anyway, it its works for you, its fine [00:30] MaximLevitsky: eh, if the teacher bitches i'll tell her it shows times new roman for me [00:32] raevin: and about Office beeing shit, I won't disagree with you, its just better to use it and focus on better OS that to give users false sense of hope that eventually user reliazes that O.O isn't Office but very buggy program [00:33] I'm trying to search for part of an attachment file name in KMail. anyone know how to do that? [00:33] yuriy: could try Edit->Find Messages [00:34] attachments show in the body of the e-mail so if you search the complete message it might work [00:36] raevin: oh wow that works. too simple and obvious. i was tring to search in headers.. thanks [00:36] yuriy: no problem :D glad i could help you [00:42] has anyone tried any ubuntu on UEFI board? === WayneBlackmon is now known as BlackPheonix [00:48] I'm trying to build the dependencies for koffice, but when I run 'sudo apt-get build-dep koffice' I get the error 'E: Unable to find a source package for koffice' [00:51] Linkmaster: System Settings -> Software Management -> Settings -> Edit Origins -> [X] Source Code [00:51] that was the first thing I checked for [00:51] (technical comment: you need to add deb-src lines that match the existing deb lines for any repositories from which you want to pull source packages) [00:51] (and then run apt-get update) === outlander is now known as Guest88579 [02:04] how do I make sure indexing is off? [02:05] cypha: assuming we mean the same indexing, System Settings -> Desktop Search -> uncheck both boxes on "Basic Settings" tab [02:06] thanks. my kubuntu is going slow as shit with desktop effects off. and apparently indexing is off too. [02:06] any ideas? [02:07] or else what do you think the fastest linux is on X? [03:00] what's the fastest linux using X? === okami is now known as Guest94841 === Guest94841 is now known as raevin [05:09] ？ [05:09] :o? [05:12] 无聊啊 [05:14] !cn [05:14] 如欲獲得中文的協助，請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw [05:14] whoa [05:15] hmmm [05:15] it might be a setup [05:15] rww, he left [05:15] hmmm [05:16] he still can be traced [05:16] or she [05:16] ah [05:17] hi this may be OT. how do you compile a kernel on a machine when linux doesnt run on it? [05:19] back [05:20] hi this may be OT. how do you compile a kernel on a machine when linux doesnt run on it? [05:20] goodtime, ok === steven is now known as steven_ [05:22] snarkster, i think ##kernel or ##linux is a better place for your question [05:22] thank you [05:54] in kate, how to i make a line collapsable? [06:58] i've searched through the bug tracking tools, but didn't found any solution or hint someone is lokking for it [06:58] i changed to KDEPIM 4.7 and now my dual core is working most of the time on 100% [06:58] virtuoso-t is taking most of it [07:03] same thing to me, though I dont know why [07:04] its just CPU, none of my super swap I set up [07:07] yes, it seems like many users have these issues [07:08] i'm wondering if the devs didn't had it or if it is just a las call patch just before tagging and packaging [07:08] liek this the notebook is very unusable [07:09] even with a completly new user and just one mailaccount his happens === fishwithapipe is now known as f|shy [07:52] janmalte: turn off the indexing ^^ [07:55] janmalte: or you could try and wait for it to finish indexing everything :) not sure if its buggy or just taking its time [08:04] Hi all [08:05] since I upg yesterday to KDE 4.7 amaroK can't stream anymore ;-( [08:12] since I upg yesterday to KDE 4.7 kmail can't move messages anymore :-( [08:24] Hi everyone! I installed Kdepim from the ppa, however launching Kmail 2 displays a "KMail encountered a fatal error and will terminate now. [08:24] The error was: [08:24] Failed to fetch the resource collection" dialog. Is that a known issue, or should I file a bug? [08:25] ...oh, the kmail windows is responsive, until I click ok at the dialog, then it terminates. [08:25] simplygades: first try it on a new user... if it works for them then its a config error [08:26] James147: thanks, I'll try and report. [08:27] I fear for installing kdepim2. The current kmail is actually able to read messages. I wonder what will break. According to many users, many things will break and kmail2 is not stable yet. [08:29] kmail2 is working fine for me I must say.. [08:30] James147: Its not nepomuk, its kmail2 and akonadi i think [08:31] janmalte: virtuoso-t is the file indexer (and nepomuk is more then just the indexer) [08:31] ok, so i will try it [08:32] Do I have to launch User management as superuser to let me modify the accounts? what's the command pls? [08:32] just diasableing strigi? or how to disable the indexer? [08:32] simplygades: dont think you need to [08:32] Buttons are grayed-out.. [08:32] simplygades: if i remember it now prompts for a password when you try to save changes [08:33] simplygades: hmm... then kdesudo kcmshell4 kcm_useraccount [08:33] * James147 notes that kcmshell4 --list will list all the modules it can open :) [08:34] James147: thanks a lot! [08:43] James147: I found this blog entry http://blogs.kde.org/node/4457 and it seems like it helped. thanks for your hint so i changed my search subjects === millun_ is now known as millun === james is now known as Guest59305 [08:58] Hello [08:59] here who says realties in Russian? [09:01] James147: Just one last update, this solved it just for one of my accounts, the new created one, the other, old one, has still 100%cpu load [09:04] janmalte: possibally a issue with your configs as well then [09:04] (or its still indexing files on your old user) [09:08] /join #ubuntu-ru [09:11] James147: I created new user, the dialog didn't appear, added my imap mail account, then Kmail crashed on opening the first unread message. [09:13] and I've got an "akonadi_agent_launcher crashed with SIGSEGV in typeinfo name for KStandardDirs()" too. [09:14] tried again and seems to work now [09:23] hello [09:23] are there any macbook users for kubuntu [09:23] ? [09:23] i got macbook pro 8.1 few weeks back , i realized there is good guide on ubuntu for it (wiki) [09:23] but i feel kubuntu should have one as well [09:23] wow i would have never tryed that [09:24] like synaptiks already provides most of multitouch functions in kubuntu [09:24] ubuntu would work better [09:24] so i am thinking of writing a small guide [09:24] i mean [09:24] it will be inspired by ubuntu wiki of course and its forums [09:24] kubuntu's desktop needs more ram than ubuntu [09:25] but since i will be trying it on kubuntu , the results might be more accurate [09:25] well the only thing is, how many macbook pro 8.1 users are there in first place [09:26] plus you can just install ubuntu and still get the kde desktop for it [09:26] then you can chose what you want to boot with [09:26] s/boot/login/ [09:29] Who: in synaptic you can apply kdefull [09:29] hi all, does anybody know how I can get the latest version of Amarok (V.2.4.3)? [09:30] apt-get install amarok === Bodia__ is now known as Bodia [09:31] libro: dont think its been packaged for kubuntu yet... it was only just released :S [09:32] libro: http://www.kubuntu.org/news << it will be announced there if/when it is packaged though its likly to end up in backports ppa (like kde 4.7) [09:33] libro: it's on the experimental ppa I think but not foor production machines. If you're just testing though it's ok [09:34] libro: that's what I'm running now [09:34] simplygades: its probally not in there yet... and if it is it would be best to wait for it to be placed somewhere else [09:34] heh [09:35] James147: I warned libro : ). But my version is 2.4.3 I can't think of elsewhere to have gotten it. [09:36] simplygades: then it will probally be in a more stable repo soon if there are no problems with it :) === Oscar_ is now known as Guest80070 [09:36] James147: so it needs to be tested [09:37] goodtime: I would hope so... it was only released today :) [09:37] and thats why foss is the best [09:38] (or according to the time stamp on the article in one hour :p...) [09:38] * James147 wonders what timezone it was released in [09:38] James147: It updated yesterday (Build date Aug 1) so far seems fine, but I'm still testing it. By the way Kmail is really fast when it works [09:39] or not... my clock seems to be wrong :P [09:39] (and my date) [09:39] :D [09:39] it happens [09:40] * James147 blames windows... his time has never been accurate since he installed it) [09:40] mine too! I should have died 3 years ago! :P [09:40] omg [09:40] of course [09:41] hey if its still running ok then by all meens run it [09:43] prob soon linux might have a virus but its for sure for windows [09:44] goodtime: ^^ linux already have viruses... they just dont tend to live long [09:45] oic ok i thought so i just wasnt sure because i just heard about it [09:45] goodtime: they tend to get patched quickly... which is why you should start uptodate [09:45] stay^^ [09:45] ah i see [09:45] makes sence [09:46] James147: xD i don't upgrade [09:46] well if its lts dristro your good [09:46] LTS [09:47] Peace-: even security updates? [09:47] some how i dont think so James147 [09:49] well i gotta go i guess [09:49] peace === Bodia_ is now known as Bodia === jutta is now known as Fanfare [10:19] Q:i added module atl1c to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ath-pci.conf but it still gets loaded after reboot? Kubuntu natty [10:26] I suppose it's the wrong blacklist file, try blacklist.conf, Fanfare [10:27] Incarus6: shouldnt they all be read and used...? moving line to blacklist.conf... [10:28] Fanfare, I'm not sure if that makes a difference but things should allways be in the correct blacklist file [10:29] Fanfare, but "sudo modprobe -r atl1c" is working correctly? [10:31] Incarus6: reasons: the atl1c module is the driver for the atheros lan adapter and that freezes system when not connected or gets disconnected... so i thought ath-pci might be the right place. [10:31] sudo rmmod atl1c works fine [10:32] Incarus6: i dont need a depmod run after editing blacklist files right? [10:33] Fanfare, I don't think so. What is the difference between atl1c and atl1e? [10:34] Incarus6: eth0 was created by atl1c here atl1e was not loaded. [10:35] What version of Kubuntu are you using? [10:35] kubuntu natty [10:35] 06:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications AR8152 v2.0 Fast Ethernet (rev c1) [10:36] atl1c 0000:06:00.0: atl1c: eth0 NIC Link is Up<100 Mbps Full Duplex> from dmesg [10:38] rebooting now... === jutta is now known as Fanfare [10:42] still loading atl1c :-( [10:43] fanfare, after replacing my MB I had problems with 8152 too. I follwed this tread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9449490 (i'm still on Lucid.) [10:46] the thing is i wnat to get rid of atl1c :-) it freezes system when not connected... this machine will most likely be online via wlan... [10:48] why don't just create an autostartscript with the content "sudo rmmod -f atl1c"? [10:48] * Incarus6 will be right back === jutta is now known as Fanfare [10:57] ok, so i placed rmmod atl1c in /etc/rc.local couse blacklist atl1c in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf didn't prevent loading... [10:57] seems to work fine now... [10:59] thx for your help Incarus6 & camino [11:17] Yes! [11:17] * Incarus6 is downloading Nivida's driver 280.13 [11:19] 64bit driver was available yesterday [11:19] * szal waits for Roberto Ferramosca to package it [11:20] szal, but the official site of nvidia returns 404 ;) http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=2462436&postcount=5 [11:21] Incarus6: not for 64bit [11:21] szal, I also get a 404 error for http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-280.13-driver.html [11:22] Incarus6: no problem here, downloading as we speak [11:23] Hi. Probably easy question. sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk tells me sun-java6-jdk could not be found. What do I need to do to make it found? I guess the repository from which this is installed is deactivated, but I don't konw how to activate it. [11:24] !java | cher [11:24] cher: To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://tinyurl.com/2ffg7cc - For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases. [11:24] szal, Iszal, inetresting, are you using the US server? [11:24] *interesting [11:25] Incarus6: no idea what server that was, I used your link [11:25] http://www.abload.de/img/20110802_firefox-dlman6od3.png <- this for proof [11:26] nice connection speed. I used the direct link, it's working for me too. But the driver info site for 280.13 is 404 for me ;) [11:27] So in case of Kubuntu 11.04, I guess I have to do s/lucid/natty/, so that it would be sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ natty partner" right? (At least it seems to work) [11:28] cher: no, read the factoid again [11:29] cher: ah, my bad, yes, it's partner [11:29] cher: no need to add it though, it's there already, you just need to enable it [11:32] Well, then possibly I've two entries for that now, one enabled and one disabled. Now let's see what's faster right now, OpenJDK or SUN JDK. [11:33] Oh, SUN JDK is significantly faster. [11:33] cher, I prefer Sun too [11:35] A benchmark for which OpenJDK takes 62 seconds, SUN JDK takes 51 seconds. === ocs is now known as faLUCE [11:36] doesn't sound like that much of a difference to me [11:37] no pkg for Sun Java 7 yet, as far as it looks [11:39] Well, it's more than 10% for something which I run multiple times a day, so for me it makes a difference. Saves a few minutes every day. [11:41] szal: Thank you for helpinh me getting SUN JDK running on my kubuntu! [11:49] Is there a kind of per-user-wrapper of alternatives? I.e. what if user X wants java to be openjdk and user Y wants java to be sunjdk? [11:52] cher, as browserplugin? [11:53] Na just from the command line, i.e. for Ant etc.. I know one could simply put the desired JDK's bin directory prior to the other directories in PATH, but this approach might not work for all software that has alternatives. [11:55] hey folks [11:55] hey BluesKaj [11:55] cher, just install both [11:55] hey yofel , Incarus6 [11:56] Incarus6: you'll still only have one of them in your path [11:56] BluesKaj: hi [11:56] hi GirlyGirl [11:57] Incarus6: I did, but update-alternatives works on a per-system-basis, not on a per-user-basis. Or maybe there is a way to get update-alternatives to create a per-user-wrapper in ~/bin or so which I don't know of, that's what I want to find out. === andrei_c is now known as andrei_comandatu [11:57] cher: not really, alternatives are done on a dpkg basis, so system level only currently [11:58] you could write a script that does it on user level though I guess [11:58] Okay, then I'll have to deal with changing PATH. No problem with that, afaik all software I'm interested in works fine with that. [11:58] after all it's just switching symlinks [11:58] Yep. [11:58] cher, why don't you use the specific full path of sun and open-thing java? [11:59] Incarus6: because I don't invoke java myself. Ant invokes java for me. I can't use the full path without tampering with Ant. [12:00] cher, you can place a script in /usr/bin instead of the java script, which regocnizes the user who is logged in and starts the correct java version [12:01] BluesKaj, Nvidias 280.13 direct download link is now working for me ;) [12:02] Incarus6: Yes I could, and then I have to take care that update-alternatives and apt-get upgrade don't mess with it. So in theory this definitely is an option, but I think I'm not yet experienced enough with debian / ubuntu / kubuntu to do this reliably. === s is now known as Guest22577 [12:03] be right back, testing the new driver [12:04] Incarus6, glad to hear it ...which nvidia card, again ? [12:04] BluesKaj, I'm using GT 220, but it's a general driver for several cards [12:05] Incarus6: why are you installing it by hand again? ^^ [12:06] yofel, because I'm not dependent from extra-ppas and can allways use the latest beta driver [12:08] Incarus6, the 270.41.06 still working well here , an entry level pci card 8400gs ..it's very good as an HD movie renderer. [12:09] BluesKaj, if I would want to use old, stable software I would use Debian [12:10] Incarus6, I tried the nvidia recommended driver for my card and it was seriously broken ...dunno why it's in the rec'd list [12:10] BluesKaj: you don't have problems resizing windows w/ the 270? I had, so I went for the 275 [12:11] BluesKaj: the 270 should be the recommended driver for that card [12:11] * yofel goes installing 280.13 from x-updates [12:12] not the default kubuntu rec'd driver...no i have no windows resizibgf probs ...using dvi to hdmi to a panasonic 42 plasma tv [12:12] BluesKaj: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/761575 [12:12] Ubuntu bug 761575 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "X-server hangs while starting some GTK programs" [Undecided,Confirmed] [12:12] BluesKaj: see comment #4 [12:13] bug 760632 is funnier [12:13] Launchpad bug 760632 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "Resizing Konsole crashes the whole system" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/760632 [12:13] err I am using the default recommended driver..din't mean confuse anyone.... I mean i tried the nvidia driver from their site and it broke X [12:13] yofel: then one should be a duplicate of the other, I noticed it w/ Konsole too [12:14] I have the Konsole issue too [12:15] GirlyGirl: using a newer driver helps; I use the 275 from LffL PPA (280 should be available there soon) [12:15] LffL? [12:15] and 280 is already in x-updates [12:15] yofel: https://launchpad.net/~ferramroberto/+archive/nvidia [12:16] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates/ [12:16] I know, I just used the driver from nvidia.com, problem is I have to reinstall every kernel update but I don't mind [12:16] bah, doesn't install right :/ [12:18] yofel: haven't heard of that yet, nice to know :) [12:18] yofel: how doesn't it? [12:18] Setting up nvidia-current (280.13-0ubuntu1~natty~xup1) ... [12:18] update-alternatives: error: alternative link /usr/share/man/man1/nvidia-xconfig.1.gz is already managed by x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf. [12:18] :DD [12:19] I'm trying to install the natty driver on oneiric though, so that might have something to do with it :P [12:19] heheh [12:19] nobody uploaded it to the archive yet :/ [12:19] I dislike 64bit [12:19] Incarus6: why that? [12:19] szal, I have a few freezing probs , but it's due to my kde 4.7 stability IMO [12:20] yofel, the 275 ? [12:20] no, this was 280, I'm already running 275 [12:20] the 280 for Oneiric, I guess [12:21] szal, nope, that one from nvidia.com [12:21] szal, several reasons speak against it - one main reason is the compatibility of 64bit in GNU/linux [12:21] Incarus6: compatibility with what? [12:23] I can't experiment with this pc for a while...wife wanted to watch a movie when X broke after an oneiric update an wasn't happy that she had to wait for 40 mins for me to reinstall natty :) [12:23] !oneiric [12:23] Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) will be the fifteenth release of Ubuntu. Codename announcement here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/?p=646 Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1 [12:24] Incarus6: don't be so nazi ;) [12:24] * BluesKaj sticks with natty for the next coupole of months [12:24] I am sorry that I am German. :D [12:25] * szal is German too ^^ [12:25] as am I, but stay polite anyway ;) [12:26] szal, mehrere sachen sprechen gegen x64, zum beispiel wieviel pakete in den repos vorhanden sind oder wie buggy der flash player ist etc. But know lets talk English. :D [12:26] * szal can't complain about 64bit Flash player & didn't miss anything yet, even proprietary software most of the time is available for 64bit natively [12:28] of course if you use 32bit Flash player on 64bit, you're bound for headaches ^^ === |GuS| is now known as [GuS] [12:30] Remind me to installl 280.13 in a couple of minutes [12:34] I havent had any issues with flash 64bit either [12:37] is the floodbot for long posts, spamming or both? [12:38] All of the aboev. [12:38] It doesn't do typos though, obviously. [12:38] hehe [12:38] * BluesKaj is curious about the 280 driver .. Incarus6 are you running kde 4.7 ? [12:38] so what should i do with this long question? [12:39] BluesKaj, yes, and I'm going to test it now. But I wont come back after that because I have to go ;) cya, szal and yofel [12:40] * szal is installing the 280 just now (KDE 4.6.5 still) [12:40] its long but it could have a simple answer, that's why i'm holding off on the forums as of yet [12:41] yofel: same conflict, different message in Natty -> update-alternatives: warning: forcing reinstallation of alternative /usr/lib/nvidia-current/ld.so.conf because link group gl_conf is broken [12:42] bah, poke in #ubuntu-x [12:42] Hey guys. Hopefully this issue is small enough to handle on IRC. Anyway, I have a small network problem. If I logoff/restart x due to a freeze or glitch, and log back in, I can't connect to the internet. There's just a dot representing the Network Manager. Whenever I try to click on a network to connect, nothing happens and I have to restart to get back functionality. Is there a simple... [12:42] ...solution for this? [12:42] their fault ^^ [12:42] huh [12:42] guess it worked [12:42] anyway there it is. [12:43] oh and sorry about the timing, yofel [12:43] rectec794613: that was only 1 line, floodbot triggers at 3 lines in rapid succ. [12:43] oh [12:43] lol that guy said all of the aboev [12:44] * BluesKaj curses network manager [12:44] if your post is *too* long it'll be split over multiple lines [12:44] restarting now, bb (hopefully ;)) [12:44] cool [12:44] depending on your IRC client, that is [12:44] rectec794613, wifi or ethernet [12:44] wifi [12:45] i've got the dreaded realtek rt2860 [12:45] or is it rt2800 [12:45] anyway i had to blacklist some drivers [12:45] to get it to work right === Kalidarn is now known as zz_Kalidarn [12:46] * BluesKaj thinks rectec794613 should be thankful wifi works at all ...my rt2870 is hoplessly non supported === zz_Kalidarn is now known as Kalidarn [12:46] that sucks [12:46] which is funny since the rt2860 is pretty well supported... [12:47] ~works, usually [12:47] yeah if freezing ur whole pc is part of that support [12:47] hm, no. I have it in my eeePC 1000H and it usually works [12:47] but I'm on oneiric there right now [12:47] so yeah, had problems from the start. us poor, poor realtek users [12:47] the 2800 has to be blacklisted on most other ralinks [12:47] seems to work as it's supposed to, everything's smooth :) [12:48] ok but whats the deal with my problem? [12:48] dont remember? [12:49] :_ [12:49] ok [12:49] hm [12:49] my problem is: if i try to relog into the pc, i cant connect to a network [12:49] basically [12:50] nah, I've seen that occasionally, you could try to reload the kernel module 'sudo modprobe -r rt2800pci && sudo modprobe rt2800pci' [12:51] that might work [12:51] lately with kernel 3.0 which I'm running the driver works mostly fine [12:51] restarting the drivers right? [12:51] rectec794613: that would be restarting the driver, right [12:52] well im looking forward to kernel 3.0 [12:52] or is it 3.0.1 or 3.1 now? === sayakb_away is now known as sayakb [12:52] uh, not sure, the ubuntu kernel got renamed to 3.0.0 in oneiric due to script issues, but linus wants to keep 3.X [12:53] I got a few questions, if anyone thinks they can help. Regarding Grub and a few other things. [12:53] yeah i don't blame him [12:53] the old version scheme is a bit confusing [12:53] go ahead Dragaan [12:54] ok, well I installed ubuntu the other day for the first time. I did the easy win7 installation [12:54] wubi? [12:55] yea. I loaded it onto my D: drive (c: is boot for windows) [12:55] that went smoothly, but I decided to uninstall and try out open SuSE [12:55] I booted from the .iso I downloaded (burned to CD) [12:55] and installed it on the D drive [12:56] oh, first let me say that when I installed ubuntu with wubi, it didn't use grub [12:56] yeah [12:56] it used the windows one [12:56] ok, so when i installed open suse, it put in grub [12:57] i decided i liked kubuntu best, so i deleted the opensuse partition [12:57] formatted [12:57] then installed kubuntu again [12:57] the installation went okay, but now i have grub AND the windows OS selector [12:57] and in my kubuntu system options, it says grub is disabled [12:57] Who needs grub... ;-) [12:57] but it's still there. with 4 options (2 kubuntus and 2 safemode kubuntus) [12:58]