| jmburgess | Bug 565543 can be marked as triaged I think. Importance medium | 11:25 |
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| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 565543 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Alps touchpad detected as ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse(in VAIO E series) after the kernel upgrade (affects: 68) (dups: 1) (heat: 404)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/565543 | 11:25 |
| micahg | jmburgess1: have you read the kernel triage procedures? | 11:41 |
| === om26er_ is now known as om26er | ||
| evfool | where should a bug for archive.ubuntu.com be reported? | 14:40 |
| Pici | What sort of bug? | 14:40 |
| xteejx | Hey guys, anoyone around? | 14:49 |
| evfool | Pici: a 404 not found for a link from changelogs.ubuntu.com | 14:52 |
| evfool | Pici : http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/dist-upgrader-all/current/DevelReleaseAnnouncement.html | 14:52 |
| micahg | evfool: there's usually a delay between the time something is uploaded and when it hits there | 14:52 |
| evfool | micahg: it's about a devel release announcement, so it's not that important | 14:53 |
| micahg | evfool: idk, maybe ask mvo | 14:54 |
| evfool | jibel: could you take a look at bug 775668, and check which solution you | 14:56 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 775668 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Release link on check-new-release-gtk dialog, points to the raw content of a wiki page (affects: 1) (heat: 39)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/775668 | 14:56 |
| evfool | jibel would prefer | 14:56 |
| htorque | hello everyone! should apport pop up for every .crash file in /var/crash? it doesn't for me. :( | 14:57 |
| xteejx | I know I should ask this in ubuntu+1, but no-one there,and besides this is my main room ;) BUT....I'm running Oneiric as an install. How do I get round the partial upgrade thing? I want to check all conflicts first though. HELP! | 15:01 |
| xteejx | Should I install aptitude? | 15:02 |
| === tremolux_ is now known as tremolux | ||
| hggdh | xteejx: run from the command-line, for example: apt-get dist-upgrade -- do *not* reply Y, but look at the resolution proposed | 15:02 |
| xteejx | hggdh: That's the one....stupid me :) | 15:03 |
| hggdh | or, if you want to play safe (no packages removed) run apt-get upgrade | 15:03 |
| xteejx | Cheers mate | 15:03 |
| hggdh | cheers | 15:03 |
| hggdh | htorque: apport will pop up if it is active, and if the crash (1) has not yet been processed; (2) has not reached the maximum reports | 15:04 |
| xteejx | hmmmm 127 upgrades, 110 new installs, 9 to remove; evince evolution-exchange indicator-me kdebase-runtime-data <<<WTF libbrasero-media libindicator3 plasma-scriptengine-declarative <again WTF python-gnomecanvas ubuntu-desktop ...... how does that sound? | 15:05 |
| mvo | jibel, evfool: I check #775668 out next | 15:05 |
| htorque | hggdh: ah, so it simply could have been reported tons of times already? great, thanks! | 15:05 |
| xteejx | I definitely don't see why ubuntu-desktop would be removed though.... | 15:06 |
| hggdh | htorque: reported from *your* machine | 15:06 |
| htorque | hggdh: oh, that's not the case then :( | 15:06 |
| hggdh | xteejx: if you do not use kde, no biggie ;-) | 15:06 |
| xteejx | htorque: If you're running a stable Ubuntu version, apport won't kick in unless you've changed a certain option...if you haven't done that, that'll be why it doesn't kick in | 15:07 |
| hggdh | xteejx: this means there are packages in flux, and some of them are requiring newer versions than what is currently available | 15:07 |
| xteejx | hggdh: So just go ahead with it and write down the ones removed and try installing them again at a later date? | 15:08 |
| htorque | hggdh: no, i'm on +1. for instance, i cleaned the /var/crash directory yesterday and today there are new .crash files (thing i definitely haven't reported) but apport didn't show up at all | 15:08 |
| htorque | *things | 15:08 |
| hggdh | htorque: open nautilus, and click on the crash reports if you want to report them | 15:08 |
| xteejx | are .crash files handled by apport? I think you have to do it manually | 15:09 |
| hggdh | xteejx: I would be very, *very* cautious... | 15:09 |
| xteejx | ahh ^^ | 15:09 |
| xteejx | hggdh: I think it may be the gtk3 transition | 15:09 |
| xteejx | I'll try it...we're in A3 now should have settled enough to be stable | 15:10 |
| hggdh | xteejx: usually when that happened with me I would either do a apt-get upgrade, or manually select the packages that could be upgraded sanely (or run update-manager) | 15:10 |
| hggdh | xteejx: caveat emptor. You have been warned ;-) | 15:10 |
| htorque | hggdh: i know how to report them, but if i don't know what caused them, they are not that useful. ;-) the apport pop-up i usually got with earlier +1 versions was a big help in determining a test case to reproduce the bug. | 15:10 |
| xteejx | hggdh: Same, but update-manager doesn't want to know, and I'm pretty much Natty.025 at the mo lol | 15:10 |
| xteejx | hggdh: no prob :P If I blow up my PC I'm coming to find you haha :D | 15:11 |
| hggdh | LOL | 15:11 |
| * hggdh has just returned to Natty... | 15:11 | |
| micahg | xteejx: Caribe Royal, Orlando, Oct 31 :) | 15:11 |
| xteejx | micahg: Lmao, trust you to be an instigator :D | 15:11 |
| xteejx | UDS I assume? | 15:12 |
| xteejx | I will go one one day....don't think I'd bring much to the table (if anything), but would be good to see how it goes | 15:12 |
| micahg | xteejx: yes :) | 15:13 |
| hggdh | xteejx: I am about 5'8'', around 180 pounds, blue eyes, wear a kippa | 15:13 |
| hggdh | :-> | 15:13 |
| xteejx | haha | 15:13 |
| micahg | lol | 15:13 |
| xteejx | Whats a kippa? A fish? | 15:13 |
| hggdh | oh boy... a skullcap | 15:14 |
| xteejx | head bandana thing? | 15:14 |
| * hggdh tries to visualise someone wearing a fish on the top of their head | 15:14 | |
| charlie-tca | no, a small brimmed floppy hat like thing | 15:15 |
| xteejx | Have you not seen american Dad? hehe | 15:15 |
| paultag | I love skullcaps | 15:15 |
| charlie-tca | easily recognized as the only person with that particular hat | 15:15 |
| xteejx | Now I'm thinking farmer type straw hats.... | 15:15 |
| paultag | charlie-tca: are you talking about a beanie? | 15:15 |
| charlie-tca | nope | 15:16 |
| hggdh | a.k.a. yarmulke. xteejx -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kippah | 15:16 |
| xteejx | Right so a guy with some hat I've never heard of...should be easy to spot :D | 15:16 |
| paultag | with the little brim on it? | 15:16 |
| charlie-tca | At least I have never seen a beanie with a brim | 15:16 |
| paultag | skullcaps don't have brims | 15:16 |
| xteejx | Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh | 15:16 |
| xteejx | hggdh: I get it now :) | 15:17 |
| charlie-tca | lol | 15:17 |
| charlie-tca | That doesn't look like the one I remember. | 15:17 |
| xteejx | I didn't know they had a particular name, I called them Jewish prayer hat things | 15:17 |
| xteejx | Please dont take offense btw!!! | 15:17 |
| paultag | charlie-tca: this is a beanie http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Teepe4zvlDM/TOlHSxRKSLI/AAAAAAAAAic/qCMkf685pYE/s400/1719-large1.jpg | 15:17 |
| paultag | charlie-tca: and this is a skullcap - http://www.tuques.com/images/skull_cap.jpg | 15:18 |
| xteejx | So why "skullcap" then? | 15:18 |
| paultag | last I checked :) | 15:18 |
| hggdh | no offense taken, xteejx | 15:18 |
| paultag | sorry for cruddy google pics, had to do a search | 15:18 |
| hggdh | xteejx: because it caps the skull? I really do not know, only in the US I heard it | 15:18 |
| * charlie-tca must be losing his mind. None of those look right | 15:19 | |
| paultag | charlie-tca: are you in the USA? | 15:19 |
| paultag | I forget | 15:19 |
| paultag | charlie-tca: long time no see, also :) | 15:19 |
| charlie-tca | yes, Idaho | 15:19 |
| paultag | oh, right right | 15:19 |
| hggdh | charlie-tca: no, you are not losing your mind. kippahs tend to be, ah, hand-made | 15:19 |
| hggdh | and many colours | 15:20 |
| hggdh | (depending on the wearer) | 15:20 |
| htorque | hggdh: good, my last question: do you think i should report a bug against apport? it is running but not popping up and windows on new crashes. | 15:20 |
| htorque | *any | 15:21 |
| hggdh | htorque: remove all current crashes, and force a new one | 15:22 |
| hggdh | htorque: after making sure apport is indeed active | 15:22 |
| htorque | that's what i did last night | 15:22 |
| htorque | 'sudo status apport' reports 'apport start/running' | 15:23 |
| hggdh | interesting | 15:25 |
| xteejx | Whew | 15:26 |
| hggdh | htorque: look at /etc/apport/blacklist.d, see what is in there (do not change blindly) | 15:26 |
| xteejx | VERY nearly lost the system there, but it's ok | 15:26 |
| hggdh | xteejx: you may only find out after logging out/in, or rebooting... | 15:27 |
| htorque | hggdh: nope, not in there (those were compiz, unity-2d-places, libunity(-misc? i forgot) crashes) | 15:27 |
| xteejx | hggdh: Have done, it seems relatively stable | 15:27 |
| hggdh | htorque: and you are running a full up-to-date oneiric? | 15:27 |
| htorque | yup | 15:28 |
| xteejx | hggdh: Would you mind copy and pasting my apt output line about 10 mins ago please? I forgot to take a note of it | 15:28 |
| hggdh | xteejx: 9 to remove; evince evolution-exchange indicator-me kdebase-runtime-data <<<WTF libbrasero-media libindicator3 plasma-scriptengine-declarative <again WTF python-gnomecanvas ubuntu-desktop | 15:28 |
| xteejx | hggdh: Brilliant! Thank you :) | 15:29 |
| xteejx | Can anyone go to UDS? Just wondered | 15:31 |
| micahg | xteejx: http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/07/15/ubuntu-developer-summit-sponsorship-now-open-2/ | 15:34 |
| xteejx | micahg: Oh cool | 15:35 |
| xteejx | I may need to renew my passport after all ;) | 15:36 |
| xteejx | linux in general, and Ubuntu in particular needs a rollercoaster simulator of some sort :( | 15:37 |
| htorque | hggdh: i found a way to trigger a compiz crash, apport didn't do anything (except collecting the data). am i good to go reporting this against apport? (sorry for repeatedly bugging you ;)) | 15:43 |
| hggdh | htorque: it should have driven apport, yes. But I am out of Oneiric right now, and do not know what goes with apport there | 15:44 |
| xteejx | I haven't had any problems with apport. In fact I had a crash about 10 minutes ago and apport caught and filed it correctly | 15:45 |
| xteejx | In Oneiric btw | 15:45 |
| htorque | xteejx: thanks, good to know | 15:49 |
| xteejx | hggdh: No prob :) | 15:52 |
| jmburgess | micahg: still there? Sry I had to step out. Yes I did read the kernel triage procedures and followed them. It has been tested on the latest as well as mainline and been forwarded upstream | 15:56 |
| micahg | jmburgess: k, just wanted to make sure you saw they have a different procedure | 15:58 |
| jmburgess | micahg: no problem. I understand its all very diff | 15:59 |
| om26er | seb128, Hi! | 17:03 |
| om26er | appmenu-gtk is not on the cd so gtk2 applications don't export their menus to the unity menubar e.g. shotwell | 17:04 |
| om26er | appmenu-gtk3 is installed though | 17:04 |
| seb128 | om26er, thanks | 17:05 |
| seb128 | hey ;-) | 17:05 |
| seb128 | I'm wondering why | 17:06 |
| seb128 | oh | 17:07 |
| om26er | something to do with the seed ? seb128 | 17:07 |
| seb128 | no, those are not seeded | 17:07 |
| om26er | aha so they go in through recommends i guess | 17:08 |
| seb128 | yes | 17:09 |
| seb128 | indicator-appmenu should recommend it | 17:09 |
| jmburgess | In the apport info is there a way to find out which packages are installed? | 17:12 |
| seb128 | jmburgess, only depends | 17:14 |
| seb128 | which are in the Dependencies textfile | 17:14 |
| hggdh | jmburgess: you will find the depends of the failing packages | 17:14 |
| hggdh | jmburgess: to find out all installed packages, run 'dpkg --get-selections' | 17:16 |
| jmburgess | Thanks guys | 17:18 |
| jmburgess | hggdh, I know about that. The reason I ask is because I was working on bug 818897 and he just mentioned when he unistalled virtualbox, suspend would work so this is a dup of bug 814323. Just making sure I didn't miss anything in the apport info | 17:19 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 818897 in linux (Ubuntu) "System doesn't suspend to RAM (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/818897 | 17:19 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 814323 in virtualbox (Ubuntu) "Virtualbox 4.1 (vboxdrv) Blocks Machine Suspend (affects: 8) (dups: 1) (heat: 52)" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/814323 | 17:19 |
| jmburgess | I should have checked procmodules for vboxdrv | 17:20 |
| cprofitt | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/776999 | 17:24 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 776999 in linux (Ubuntu) "[Lenovo W520] laptop freezes on ACPI-related actions (affects: 18) (dups: 1) (heat: 93)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 17:24 |
| cprofitt | would like to help move this from confirmed to triaged... but do not have a ton of experience with ACPI issues | 17:24 |
| bdmurray | pedro_: perhaps lightdm could use an apport package hook? | 17:46 |
| seb128 | it should probably copy what gdm is doing | 17:47 |
| seb128 | i.e adding the xorg config | 17:47 |
| seb128 | or logs | 17:47 |
| pedro_ | bdmurray, hello, yeah, will write one for it | 17:58 |
| pedro_ | based on the same gdm is doing | 17:59 |
| bdmurray | pedro_: cool | 18:03 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| bdmurray | Those Problem with MergeList apt bugs were when behind a proxy right? | 22:21 |
| bdmurray | Anybody remember the master bug? | 22:21 |
| bdmurray | answering my question its bug 346386 | 22:43 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 346386 in apt (Debian) (and 2 other projects) "[MASTER] Update fails with invalid package files with "Encountered a section with no Package: header" (affects: 234) (dups: 179) (heat: 1362)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/346386 | 22:44 |
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