=== medberry is now known as med_out === tremolux_ is now known as tremolux [15:59] o/ [15:59] hilo [15:59] o/ [15:59] who is running the meeting today? [16:00] \o [16:01] apw, Are yo usure? :) [16:01] pleasenotmepleasenotmepleasenotme [16:01] o\ [16:02] i guess its me [16:02] utlemming did it last week so I think its hallyn [16:02] #startmeeting [16:02] Meeting started at 11:02. The chair is zul. [16:02] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [16:02] he'll owe me [16:03] [TOPIC] Review ACTION points from previous meeting [16:03] New Topic: Review ACTION points from previous meeting [16:03] [ACTION] sommer and j1mc to look at doc presentation (continued x 2) [16:03] was that done? [16:03] i guess not carried forward [16:03] no [16:03] no don't carry it [16:03] sommer has stepped down.. and its been continued x 2 [16:03] ok not carried forward [16:03] somebody else needs to take that action [16:04] anyone want to volunteer? [16:04] we really need a tech writer i think [16:04] I think the action may be to put out a call for help w/ documentation. [16:04] I wonder if kim0 could help [16:04] SpamapS: want to do it? the call for help [16:05] Yeah I'll do it [16:05] I'm blocked on a contractor, atm [16:05] [ACTION] Spamaps call for help for documentation [16:05] ACTION received: Spamaps call for help for documentation [16:05] ok next is: [16:05] [ACTION] All: review new triage process at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase [16:05] ACTION received: All: review new triage process at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase [16:05] i need to do it still [16:05] anyone else read it? [16:06] if not it will be carried forward [16:06] Yes I've been using it [16:06] ok good SpamapS gets a cookie ;) [16:06] i've been trying to use it :) [16:06] and hallyn gets a biscuit [16:06] so moving on: [16:06] scooby snack! [16:07] [TOPIC] Oneiric Development [16:07] New Topic: Oneiric Development [16:07] well the archive is in a soft freeze and its pretty close to FFE [16:07] s/FFE/FF/g [16:07] anyone else want to mention anything [16:07] robbiew: ? [16:07] hm, i'd like to merge new libvirt still before ff [16:07] update work items!!!! [16:08] zul, xen seems still to be in depwait for ipxe [16:08] again?! [16:08] why? ipxe is packaged yes? [16:08] ill look at it today [16:08] it needs to be seeded [16:08] Or at least I did not see anyting built yet [16:08] ill take a look [16:08] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/canonical-server-oneiric-alpha-3.html [16:08] LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/canonical-server-oneiric-alpha-3.html [16:08] looking pretty bad [16:08] hyperair, ipxe was in universe still [16:08] errr [16:09] hallyn, [16:09] xen moved to main, so not getting built until ipxe is in main too [16:09] oh yeah i got a pandaboard booting on oneiric === evilserfus is now known as serfus [16:09] anything else? [16:10] ok moviing on.. [16:10] [TOPIC] Ubuntu Server Team Events [16:10] New Topic: Ubuntu Server Team Events [16:11] so next week the ubuntu server team and friends will be sprinting in two different places austin and london and the week after is linuxcon [16:11] anyone has any events they want to bring up? [16:11] if not we will move on [16:12] * SpamapS is done eventing for a while. :) [16:12] heh [16:12] ok so next [16:12] [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh/apw) [16:12] New Topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh/apw) [16:13] we already mentioned the new triaging instructions is there anything else you want to mention [16:13] if not ill move on to the next topic [16:14] [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) [16:14] New Topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) [16:14] zul: Ursinha is at QA sprint same week as LinuxCon [16:14] hi smb [16:14] Currently trying to debug the oneiric kernel not booting on xen hvm [16:14] yes, I am [16:14] OEM QA and Defect Analysts sprint [16:15] * smb wonders how apw made it into the qa team [16:16] smb: whats the xen hvm problem? [16:16] Anyway, I can reproduce it but the traces I got so far indicate that something between the 3.0 kernel and dom0 interacts badly. So I am trying to bisect where it started to go bad [16:16] zul, It hangs on boot [16:16] smb: oh...well that sucks [16:16] Only the 2.6.39+ kernels [16:17] did it work with 4.1? [16:17] but we can tlak about it outside the meeting [16:17] zul, It does not hang at the same place, but that seems to be moving [16:17] crappers...ill talk to you about it after [16:17] k [16:17] anything else? [16:18] not from me [16:18] any questions? [16:18] ... [16:18] [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (NCommander) [16:18] New Topic: Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (NCommander) [16:18] hi NCommander [16:18] so our preinstall pool code landed which allows our server images to be fullyinstalledwithoutnetworkon omap4 [16:18] andmy spacebar is having issues [16:19] what does that mean? [16:19] so basically,we're now properly shipping all the debs needed for server installs [16:19] the previous set of server images required an internet connection to complete installation [16:19] oh...good [16:19] yeah...very goof [16:19] good [16:20] lol [16:20] anything else? [16:20] Our netboot images are also almost fully working, and can currently be used unattended with some minor cavets [16:20] I'm running the release as part of the release team so I'll be less available for ARM related work this week [16:20] good now we can just get cobbler to work with it [16:20] yup [16:21] that's all [16:21] any other questions for Ncommander? [16:21] if not [16:21] [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions from the Ubuntu Community [16:21] New Topic: Weekly Updates & Questions from the Ubuntu Community [16:22] anyone want to bring something up? [16:22] if not im starving :) [16:22] one tiny thing [16:23] err.. never mind [16:23] ;) [16:23] ok... [16:23] [TOPIC] Open Discussion [16:23] New Topic: Open Discussion [16:24] last chance... [16:24] o/ [16:24] all of our reports are being placed where they should be: http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/ [16:25] sru reports are being updated every 20minutes and triage reports every 10 minutes [16:25] \o/ [16:25] sweet [16:25] also, I have some graphs for appreciation [16:25] http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/ubuntu-server-bugs-oneiric.html [16:25] LINK received: http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/ubuntu-server-bugs-oneiric.html [16:25] I'm working on them thou [16:25] thanks! [16:25] if you want specific data, let me know [16:25] :) [16:26] anyone else? [16:26] .. [16:26] thanks [16:26] #endmeeting [16:26] Meeting finished at 11:26. [16:34] nick/dlm [16:59] # [16:59] # lets "get 'er done"! [16:59] # [16:59] \o [16:59] \o/ [16:59] o/ [16:59] o/ [17:00] #startmeeting [17:00] Meeting started at 12:00. The chair is bjf. [17:00] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [17:00] ## [17:00] ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting. [17:00] ## [17:00] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting [17:00] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Oneiric [17:00] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting [17:00] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Oneiric [17:00] # Meeting Etiquette [17:00] # [17:00] # NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input. [17:00] # 'o/' indicates you have something you'd like to add (wait until you are recognized) [17:00] # [17:00] [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati) [17:00] New Topic: ARM Status (ppisati) [17:00] he's on vacation no? [17:00] ci [17:01] heh [17:01] [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (ogasawara) [17:01] New Topic: Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (ogasawara) [17:01] === Release Metrics === [17:01] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt [17:01] LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt [17:01] ==== oneiric nominated bugs ==== [17:01] * 29 linux kernel bugs (up 9) [17:01] ==== Ubuntu oneiric-alpha-3 bugs ==== [17:01] * 2 linux kernel bugs (up 2) [17:01] ==== -updates bugs ==== [17:01] * 0 oneiric linux kernel bugs (no change 0) [17:01] * 21 natty linux kernel bugs (down 1) [17:01] * 3 maverick linux kernel bugs (no change 0) [17:01] * 7 lucid linux kernel bugs (no change 0) [17:01] * 0 hardy linux kernel bugs (no change 0) [17:01] === Incoming Bugs === [17:01] * 75 oneiric bugs (up 10) [17:01] * 1466 natty bugs (up 41) [17:01] * 1089 maverick bugs (down 3) [17:01] * 933 lucid bugs (up 6) [17:01] * 32 hardy bugs (no change 0) [17:01] === Regressions === [17:01] ==== regression-update bugs ==== [17:01] * 0 oneiric bugs (no change 0) [17:01] * 12 natty bugs (no change 0) [17:01] * 41 maverick bugs (no change 0) [17:01] * 74 lucid bugs (no change 0) [17:01] * 0 hardy bugs (no change 0) [17:01] ==== regression-release bugs ==== [17:01] * 1 oneiric bugs (no change 0) [17:01] * 438 natty bugs (down 2) [17:02] * 241 maverick bugs (down 1) [17:02] * 211 lucid bugs (up 3) [17:02] * 2 hardy bugs (no change 0) [17:02] ==== regression-proposed bugs ==== [17:02] * 0 oneiric bugs (no change 0) [17:02] * 1 natty bugs (down 1) [17:02] * 1 maverick bugs (no change 0) [17:02] * 0 lucid bugs (no change 0) [17:02] * 0 hardy bugs (no change 0) [17:02] .. [17:02] [TOPIC] Blueprints: Oneiric Delta Review (ogasawara) [17:02] [LINK] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-kernel-o-ubuntu-delta-review [17:02] New Topic: Blueprints: Oneiric Delta Review (ogasawara) [17:02] LINK received: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-kernel-o-ubuntu-delta-review [17:02] ==other-kernel-o-ubuntu-delta-review (ogasawara)== [17:02] lag, rsalveti: you have work items to review your set of Ubuntu patches. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Specs/KernelOneiricUbuntuDeltaReview . Note, these are the only remaining work items for this blueprint. [17:02] .. [17:02] [TOPIC] Status: General Oneiric (ogasawara) [17:02] New Topic: Status: General Oneiric (ogasawara) [17:02] Last week we uploaded the 3.0.0-7.9 Ubuntu kernel. I do not anticipate any last minute uploads and expect this to be the kernel shipping with the Oneiric Alpha-3 release on Thurs. We're already queueing patches for the first upload following Alpha-3. [17:02] .. [17:03] [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (apw) [17:03] New Topic: Status: CVE's (apw) [17:03] === CVE Metrics === [17:03] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~apw/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt [17:03] LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~apw/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt [17:03] Currently open CVEs for each supported branch: [17:03] || Package || Open || [17:03] || || || [17:03] || linux Hardy || 7 || [17:03] || linux Lucid || 4 || [17:03] || linux Maverick || 4 || [17:03] || linux Natty || 5 || [17:03] || linux Oneiric || 2 || [17:03] || linux-ec2 Lucid || 4 || [17:03] || linux-fsl-imx51 Lucid || 4 || [17:03] || linux-mvl-dove Lucid || 4 || [17:03] || linux-mvl-dove Maverick || 4 || [17:03] || linux-ti-omap4 Maverick || 4 || [17:03] || linux-ti-omap4 Natty || 5 || [17:03] || linux-ti-omap4 Oneiric || 2 || [17:03] || linux-lts-backport-maverick Lucid || 4 || [17:03] || linux-lts-backport-natty Lucid || 5 || [17:03] .. [17:03] [TOPIC] Status: Stable Kernel Team (sconklin) [17:03] New Topic: Status: Stable Kernel Team (sconklin) [17:03] ||== Status of kernels == [17:03] || [17:03] || Kernel status for each series is as follows: [17:03] || [17:03] || * [[http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html|Detailed Information Here]] [17:04] || [17:04] ||=== Hardy === [17:04] || * [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/812360|Hardy Tracking Bug]] [17:04] || * Awaiting regression testign by QA [17:04] || [17:04] ||=== Lucid === [17:04] Ubuntu bug 812360 in linux (Ubuntu) "linux: 2.6.24-29.92 -proposed tracker" [Medium,In progress] [17:04] || * [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/818196|Lucid Tracking Bug]] [17:04] || * Awaiting certifcation and regression testing [17:04] || [17:04] ||=== Maverick === [17:04] Ubuntu bug 818196 in linux (Ubuntu Lucid) "linux: 2.6.32-33.72 -proposed tracker" [Medium,In progress] [17:04] || * [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/808934|Maverick Tracking Bug]] [17:04] || * Awaiting publishing [17:04] || [17:04] ||=== Natty === [17:04] Ubuntu bug 808934 in Kernel SRU Workflow "linux: 2.6.35-30.56 -proposed tracker" [Undecided,In progress] [17:04] || * [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/818175|Natty Tracking Bug]] [17:04] || * Awaiting regression testing [17:04] || [17:04] Ubuntu bug 818175 in linux (Ubuntu Natty) "linux: 2.6.38-11.48 -proposed tracker" [Medium,In progress] [17:04] .. [17:04] [TOPIC] Security & bugfix kernels - Natty/Maverick/Lucid/Hardy (sconklin) [17:04] New Topic: Security & bugfix kernels - Natty/Maverick/Lucid/Hardy (sconklin) [17:04] || [17:04] || Current Kernel versions are always available here: http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/versions.html [17:04] || [17:04] .. [17:04] [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions: Raise your hand to be recognized (o/) [17:04] New Topic: Open Discussion or Questions: Raise your hand to be recognized (o/) [17:04] o/ [17:05] bdmurray, go [17:05] Just wanted to remind you all about the kerneloops work I've done and take a peak at the reported oopses [17:05] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-datecreated&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_supervisor=&field.bug_commenter=&fi [17:06] so kernel warnings are no longer reported and the bugs get tagged kernel-driver- like bug 818161 which is tagged kernel-driver-i915 [17:06] Launchpad bug 818161 in linux (Ubuntu) "kernel BUG at /build/buildd/linux-3.0.0/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915_gem.c:2124! (dup-of: 814460)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/818161 [17:06] Launchpad bug 814460 in linux (Ubuntu) "kernel BUG at /build/buildd/linux-3.0.0/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915_gem.c:2132!" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/814460 [17:07] it seems to me like there could get an importance set automatically [17:07] additionally there seem to be some duplicates with the NETDEV WATCHDOG timeouts [17:07] are the watchdogs useful? and should they be autotagged using the (atl1c) information? [17:08] .. [17:08] bdmurray, sounds interesting, perhaps you could write up some pointers and email them out, as i suspect this will be a long topic [17:08] (to the kernel-team@ list) [17:08] those tags look useful so far on quick reading [17:08] .. [17:09] bdmurray, are these separate scripts or is this part of apport? [17:09] bjf the driver tagging is part of the linux source package hook (which is in apport) [17:10] bjf: the filtering out of WARNINGs is done in kerneloops itself [17:10] bdmurray, thanks [17:11] thanks everyone [17:11] #endmeeting [17:11] Meeting finished at 12:11. [17:11] thanks bjf [17:46] [6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~32 [17:46] 64 [17:48] gah [17:48] sorry! [17:49] so, that wasn't code? [17:50] that was my attempts at closing my terminal with Shift + enter + ~ [19:18] ogra_: reminder meeting in 40 mins [19:35] EMEA RMB meeing in ~25 minutes [19:43] stgraber meeting in ~20 mins [19:55] meeting in ~6mins [20:01] * stgraber waves [20:01] 'lo. [20:02] stgraber: hwdy [20:03] hi all [20:03] oo we have a peoples [20:03] Hi [20:03] o/ [20:03] hello [20:04] stgraber: can you chair ? [20:05] czajkowski: I'd rather not as I'm multi-tasking between ISO testing, fixing stuff and talking to people IRL [20:05] (sorry, it's alpha-3 + pre-FF rush) [20:06] ok [20:06] Yeh, we know! [20:06] #startmeeting [20:06] Meeting started at 15:06. The chair is czajkowski. [20:06] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [20:06] Aloha and welcome to todays EMEA meeting [20:06] stgraber: highvoltage drubin ogra_ are we all here [20:06] * drubin [20:07] * highvoltage is here [20:07] [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/EMEA [20:07] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/EMEA [20:07] is tonights agenda === med_out is now known as med === med is now known as medberry [20:07] so we'll work from the top down [20:08] is lcawte here? [20:08] ok moving on so [20:08] laoshi: you're up next [20:08] o/ [20:08] [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FlemmingChristensen [20:08] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FlemmingChristensen [20:09] laoshi: hi so care to tell us about yourself [20:09] laoshi: Could you please tell us a bit about yourself? [20:09] ok [20:10] as said on wiki I am moderator of the Danish Team Forum [20:10] translator [20:10] writer og tips and tricks [20:10] and working on a mentoring activity in Danish team [20:11] and have kept up propagating Ubuntu for the last 3 years [20:11] but please ask any questions [20:12] oh, and also LoCo contact for some 4 months [20:12] laoshi: if you could change any one thing in ubuntu, what would that be? === omerakram is now known as om26er [20:12] laoshi: What is your role within the Danish LoCo team? [20:13] great question! the one about change [20:13] it is going really fast since ab. 8.04, and we dont get many seriously troubling questions on forum [20:14] in the LoCo team I am also a member of the local council [20:14] and try to get news both ways [20:14] but as I have only been in that function for some 4 months I am still finding my way [20:15] I try to keep the LoCo alive! [20:15] laoshi: the danish team have had their issues, how do you go about getting people involved in the team [20:16] we try to develop personal relationships through irc, mail, forum, and IRL (especially in Aarhus and Cph) [20:16] and in the projects on mentoring and using lernid we reach wider out [20:17] laoshi: ok is there anything else you'd like to add ? [20:17] about membership I I see it as a kind of recognition of work already done. And taking on an obligation to keep up working to spread Ubuntu. [20:18] so it would be both an honour and an obligation [20:18] highvoltage: drubin iulian stgraber anything else [20:18] nope [20:18] No. [20:18] [vote] please vote on the membership of laoshi. [20:18] nope [20:18] Please vote on: please vote on the membership of laoshi.. [20:18] Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot [20:18] E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting [20:18] +0 [20:18] Abstention received from iulian. 0 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 0 [20:18] +1 [ long-term forum / loco team work ] [20:18] +1 received from highvoltage. 1 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 1 [20:19] Private +1 vote received. 2 for, 0 against, 1 have abstained. Count is now 2 [20:19] +0 [20:19] Abstention received from stgraber. 2 for, 0 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now 2 [20:19] +0 [20:19] Abstention received from czajkowski. 2 for, 0 against. 3 have abstained. Count is now 2 [20:19] (private votes won't be recorded) [20:19] highvoltage: why not ? [20:19] czajkowski: do we know who made the private vote? [20:19] czajkowski: Can we actually see who voted? [20:19] no [20:19] +0 [Lack of documented activities] [20:19] Abstention received from drubin. 2 for, 0 against. 4 have abstained. Count is now 2 [20:20] but this has never come up before in other meetings [20:20]