[00:27] <jrwren> what is TDM?
[00:27] <jrwren> hate bash???? *gasp*
[00:27] <jrwren> I love bash
[00:27] <rick_h_> team death match?
[00:29] <jrwren> ah.
[00:42] <snap-l> brousch: Can you  write it in Python. Sheesh.
[00:42] <snap-l> Also, we're not cool.
[00:43] <snap-l> http://hardocp.com/article/2011/07/26/thermalright_hr02_macho_cpu_air_cooler_review <- What the fuck?
[00:43] <snap-l> I'd be worried that the CPU fan would warp the mobo at that height.
[00:46] <snap-l> https://twitter.com/#!/joindiaspora/statuses/98186624780873728
[00:46] <snap-l> Seriously?
[00:47] <rick_h_> :)
[00:47] <rick_h_> love that
[00:48] <snap-l> There's just no good way to read that
[00:49] <snap-l> either a) they weren't running with a slave, and don't know much about MySQL, or b) They have such a crappy server that it couldn't take the replication load, and nobody coded the site to be run in read-only mode.
[00:49] <Blazeix> I'm pretty ignorant of diaspora, but isn't it decentralized?
[00:49] <Blazeix> is this just the main node?
[00:49] <snap-l> Maybe there's a combo of things, but seriously, adding a slave should be transparent
[00:50] <rick_h_> wsan't there some thing that to get it to work you had to register your node with the main node?
[00:50] <snap-l> Blazeix: This is the main node, but I'm not sure what would cause the downtime.
[00:50] <snap-l> Unless they're doing an upgrade as well
[00:50] <rick_h_> come on, why isn't it put out over diaspora vs on twitter?
[00:50] <rick_h_> I mean, if you're using it, wouldn't you be likely following them there?
[00:50] <snap-l> *cough*
[00:50] <rick_h_> snap-l: heh, time to to 4 to 5 transition :P
[00:51] <rick_h_> and dammit, stop using mysql ugh
[00:51] <snap-l> Apparently it's up
[00:51] <snap-l> Maybe someone got some sense.
[00:52] <rick_h_> you should volunteer, I hear htey have $$ to get some good sys admin help
[00:53] <snap-l> Yeah, that would be a great gig
[00:53] <snap-l> I mean, if I fucked up, would both of their users notice?
[00:54] <snap-l> "Woah, need some overtime. Gotta put in a new 'MySQL Slave' server".
[00:55] <snap-l> I mean shit, we practically juggled some of our slave servers.
[00:56] <brousch> snap-l: you see the sysadmin at gnu job opening?
[00:56] <snap-l> Yes
[00:56] <snap-l> I'd have to move to take a paycut
[00:57] <snap-l> Fascinated that they're using Apache, though
[00:57] <brousch> but freedom!
[00:57] <snap-l> I would have thought that wouldn't jive with the FSF
[01:20] <jjesse> who needs money when you are living on freedom
[02:13] <jrwren> is there a GNU web server?
[02:13] <jrwren> they should write one in lisp.
[02:31] <TeamXlink> Does anyone know why this isn't working:
[02:31] <TeamXlink> http://pastebin.com/rQuDBgnV
[02:31] <TeamXlink> http://pastebin.com/qKg2zQVN
[02:31] <TeamXlink> the second file is the index.php
[02:31] <TeamXlink> the first file is the index.html
[02:32] <TeamXlink> Its supposed to log the visitors ip to the file called: myvisitors
[02:35] <_stink_> TeamXlink: a php file isn't included as a script in an HTML file like a javascript file is.
[02:35] <TeamXlink> Oh.
[02:36] <_stink_> what you need is to run this on an instance of a web server that can run php
[02:37] <_stink_> TeamXlink: this might say more about getting started: http://w3schools.com/php/default.asp
[02:37] <_stink_> but i'm afk for a bit.  if you don't get it, i'm sure i/someone can help tomorrow.
[03:52] <Blazeix> https://twitter.com/#!/humble/status/98077015328038912
[03:52] <Blazeix> "@humble: All Humble Indie Bundle #3 customers get a free copy of Steel Storm: Burning Retribution!  http://t.co/NcNDZka "
[11:41] <snap-l> Blazeix: Yeah, that's awesome. :)
[12:48] <snap-l> http://decafbad.net/2011/08/02/echochasm-libre/
[12:49] <Wolfger> morning
[12:53] <rick_h_> party
[13:00] <jrwren> quick poll: do you look at the contents of files in /lost+found or do you just delete tehm all?
[13:01] <snap-l> jrwren: it depends
[13:01] <snap-l> am I missing something or aren't I
[13:01] <rick_h_> delete
[13:02] <jrwren> sure, but that assumes you notice it missing. what if you delete adn notice it missing 5 yrs from now :)
[13:03] <jrwren> i ask because my cron.daily emails me and tells me to clean 'em up.
[13:03] <snap-l> Then you live and learn?
[13:03] <snap-l> I guess my question is why are you collecting so much in lost+found in the first place
[13:03] <jrwren> ha! or I learn the easy way and check first the first time.
[13:03] <snap-l> and is it taking up so much space that it's becoming a problem?
[13:04] <jrwren> these are files from 2008-08-07 to 2009-02-03   :)
[13:04] <jrwren> no, not taking any space.
[13:04] <jrwren> I just want to limit the output of my cron.daily, to hopefully nothing so that I don't get email.
[13:04] <jrwren> and I want to do it the right way :)
[13:04] <snap-l> Frankly, I'd leave them there, or do a quick file on them to see what they might be
[13:04] <snap-l> and stop shutting down your filesystem uncleanly. ;)
[13:04] <jrwren> I'm lessing each one, so far its been stuff I don't care about.
[13:04] <jrwren> i can't help it if there is a power outage.
[13:05] <snap-l> Journaled Filesystem
[13:05] <jrwren> I'm too cheap for UPS
[13:05] <jrwren> this is ext3, sheesh, that doesn't mean things don't go to l+f
[13:05] <snap-l> Right
[13:06] <jrwren> I had one of those seagate drives with teh bad firmware for a while. that lead to lots of instability
[13:06] <snap-l> jrwren: Which one? ;)
[13:06] <snap-l> Seagate made some real stinkers
[13:07] <jrwren> it was a 750G IIRC but it was the one that was really noticed in their popular 1.5TB drives
[13:07] <jrwren> at least it runs cool.
[13:07] <jrwren> I have this 500GB Maxtor that runs hot as fire.
[13:07] <snap-l> Ah, was thinking of the 1GB one that I had to RMA
[13:08] <snap-l> which was also being used on one of our servers at WSU
[13:08] <snap-l> summarilly, each one of them went to hell
[13:08] <jrwren> was it that firmware issue?
[13:08] <jrwren> oh wait... 1GB not 1TB :)
[13:08] <jrwren> that would have been a WHILE ago :)
[13:08] <snap-l> Yeah, it was
[13:08] <jrwren> only 15 yrs or so
[13:08] <jrwren> err.. i guess not quite 15 yrs
[13:09] <jrwren> anyone else here use testdrive ? or is it just me?
[13:09] <snap-l> What's testdrive?
[13:10] <jrwren> zsync's an current ubundu-dev iso and boots it with KVM for you.
[13:10] <jrwren> its very sweet, but the 11.10 installer stops recognizing KB input for me when it asks me to create the default user.
[13:11] <snap-l> "I like this Craig Maloney » Post Topic » A simple object lesson on what’s wrong with the music industry – dumping , enjoyed this one appreciate it for posting keep update Craig Maloney » Post Topic » A simple object lesson on what’s wrong with the music industry – dumping." - Spammers aren't even trying anymore. ;)
[13:54] <_stink_> i have bought all 3 humble bundles, and played about 15 minutes total of the games included.
[13:56] <greg-g> I played a bit of world of goo
[13:56] <greg-g> "and yet it moves" looks like it might be a contender
[13:58] <snap-l> Heh. :)
[13:58] <snap-l> If anything it's giving people more games to play than just Frozen bubble
[14:03] <Wolfger> world of goo was entertaining for a day, then I kind of forgot it existed
[14:04] <Wolfger> whenever anybody mentions it, I remember it fondly...
[14:04] <greg-g> :)
[14:04]  * Wolfger wonders if goo exists for Android phones
[14:06] <Wolfger> doesn't look like it
[14:26] <brousch> snap-l: Whats the difference between a drummer and a drum machine?
[14:26] <brousch> You only have to punch the information into a drum machine once.
[14:42] <snap-l> Har har
[14:42] <snap-l> brousch: So, did you listen to Libre?
[14:43] <brousch> no, i have the page up though
[14:43] <brousch> i just got back from the dentist. will it be more pleasant than that?
[14:43] <snap-l> Maybe.
[14:45] <greg-g> depends on what happened at the dentist's
[14:46] <brousch> snap-l:  sounds good
[14:46] <brousch> just a cleaning. still no cavities
[14:49] <snap-l> Thanks. :)
[14:50] <brousch> i'd like to hear crazy drumming when it thins out at about 49s
[14:50] <snap-l> I was trying to go for something like FLA's Millenium
[14:51] <snap-l> Didn't quite get there, though
[14:53] <brousch> the end doesn't quite fit with the rest of it
[14:53] <brousch> so i love everything but the middle and the end
[14:53] <snap-l> Thank you. ;)
[14:54] <snap-l> Unfortunately, I didn't know how to end it, so I decided to nuke it from orbit. ;)
[14:56] <brousch> endings are hard, let's go nuking
[14:56] <brousch> oh, that reminds me, pyohio is over, i wanted to check out scratch
[14:57] <brousch> http://scratch.mit.edu/
[15:18] <brousch> I'm so proud of myself. I was wondering "where can I get free sound files?" i found it myself without having to ask greg-g
[15:23] <jcastro> hah
[15:23] <jcastro> this is so rick: http://danielchoi.com/software/vitunes.html
[15:26] <binbrain> jcastro: how's FL?
[15:27] <rick_h_> jcastro: hah, saw that. But where will I run iTunse?
[15:27] <rick_h_> there's no place to run it on in my house
[15:29] <jcastro> binbrain: pretty awesome I must say
[15:29] <snap-l> I'll go get the duck tape
[15:43] <greg-g> brousch: you get the special cookie for today
[15:52] <brousch> http://www.freesound.org/
[15:58] <greg-g> cool coo
[15:58] <greg-g> l
[16:27] <rick_h_> ugh, I'm still pyohio dragging
[16:40] <Wolfger> binbrain: Ask jcastro again after the first hurricane hits his city :-D
[16:41] <Wolfger> Surprise, surprise. At the last minute, politicians vote to raise their own debt ceiling.
[16:41] <Wolfger> I think I called that a month ago.
[17:03] <Wolfger> Shh. He's here now, quit talking about him.
[17:03]  * Wolfger is glad nullspace doesn't read the archives...
[17:12] <snap-l> I know we've given up on meaningful names, but this is just ridiculous: http://oreilly.com/catalog/9781449306595/
[17:12] <snap-l> Learning SPARQL
[17:18] <Wolfger> It's new and... you know... sparkly
[17:18] <Wolfger> I think it's a pretty nifty name, myself.
[17:19] <Wolfger> far better than MySQL or Postgres
[17:20] <Wolfger> DB2. MSSQL.
[17:20] <Wolfger> Oracle is a decent name for a database.
[17:20] <rick_h_> and this is why we don't let Wolfger run our IT depts :P
[17:21] <Wolfger> LOL
[17:21] <Wolfger> No.
[17:21] <Wolfger> I don't buy software based on the name.
[17:21] <Wolfger> But I can appreciate good marketing when I see it.
[17:22] <Wolfger> Come on... if I made decisions base on names, do you think I ever would have tried Kubuntu (gesundheit)?
[17:23] <rick_h_> sure, I heard your favorite letter was K
[17:26] <brousch> yeah, right. you use kubuntu because you love choqok
[17:26] <nullspace> hmm, I really have no urge to go to ohio linux fest for the talks
[17:27] <rick_h_> nullspace: yea, been that way for years
[17:28] <nullspace> the drive sucks, and the beer tickets are all gone by the time I get there
[17:28] <nullspace> rick_h_: how was pyohio?
[17:28] <jrwren> but you go to socialize, right?
[17:28] <rick_h_> very cool, http://blog.mitechie.com/2011/08/01/pyohio-2011-another-year-another-great-time/
[17:28] <rick_h_> jrwren: I skipped one year
[17:28] <jrwren> i haven't been in 4 yrs or so. i really want to go this year.
[17:28] <Wolfger> socialize? Beer!
[17:29] <rick_h_> I'm going this year and I htink lococast is going to get an OSS table
[17:29] <nullspace> nah I'm going to derbyCon
[17:29] <rick_h_> setup some mics and try to hang out and such
[17:31] <jrwren> cool.
[17:38] <ptenhoopen> Last year at Ohio Linux Fest, there was no shortage of drink tickets.
[17:39] <ptenhoopen> They were handing them out 10-15 at a time towards the end.
[17:39] <ptenhoopen> nagios flipped the bill
[17:39] <rick_h_> nice
[17:40] <ptenhoopen> Maybe that should have been 'footed'.
[17:40] <ptenhoopen> IDK
[17:52] <brousch> snap-l: jono just tweeted your remix
[17:59] <snap-l> Yeah, I saw that
[17:59] <brousch> yougoboy
[18:15] <brousch> rick_h_: did i miss a vim open space at pyohio?
[18:17] <rick_h_> brousch: no, just a guy was looking for me and we ended up chatting vim
[18:17] <brousch> ah, ok
[18:17] <rick_h_> I guess he was in one of the vim open spaces I did at OLF/PyOhio in years past and wanted to chat
[18:58] <snap-l> So, 3pm
[18:58] <snap-l> Tuesday afternoon
[18:59] <snap-l> Believe the "make the world a better place" goal for today is coming just a tad shy of completion
[19:00] <brousch> but you released some music. that makes the world better
[19:00] <snap-l> yeah, it does.
[19:01] <snap-l> Just getting ready for tomorrow's big meeting
[19:01] <snap-l> well, tomorrow's "shouldn't be a big meeting, but thanks to my current boss who believes that the only way to show progress is to schedule a big meeting" meeting
[19:01] <brousch> your big travelling meeting?
[19:01] <snap-l> That I'm not traveling for, yes. ;)
[19:02] <snap-l> tomorrow will be interesting.
[19:02] <brousch> you're so important they're setting you up with a virtual presence?
[19:02] <snap-l> yeah, Netmeeting
[19:02] <snap-l> It's like almost being there
[19:03] <snap-l> And a conference call bridge
[19:03] <brousch> not one of those segway-mounted monitors?
[19:03] <snap-l> It'll be almost like you can hear me being sarcastic
[19:03] <snap-l> brousch: No, we're the phone company, not fucking iRobot. ;)
[19:03] <brousch> weak
[19:05] <snap-l> heh
[19:05] <snap-l> well, sorry to disappoint
[19:29] <snap-l> http://ohiolinux.org/node/67 <- Oh God.
[19:30] <brousch> he was keynote or closing at indiana linuxfest, maybe ptenhoopen has some insights into how awesome he was
[19:30] <jrwren> freetard keynote
[19:31] <ptenhoopen> He was OK.  Seemed a bit self-centered.
[19:31] <jrwren> Imma make a cheerful that says "MIT > GNU" and wave it around during his keynote
[19:32] <ptenhoopen> Seemed to be very knowledgeable regarding licensing, patents, etc.
[19:32] <waldo323_> who is planning on going to OLF this year?
[19:32] <snap-l> Oh, no doubt.
[19:33] <jrwren> hitler was knowledgeable.
[19:33] <ptenhoopen> LOL
[19:33] <jrwren> yes, i went there. :)
[19:33] <ptenhoopen> I know of 2 others besides myself who are planning on going.
[19:34] <snap-l> I just registered.
[19:36] <rick_h_> oh crap, now I'm not going
[19:38] <jrwren> i'm not either. because of the date :(
[20:12] <snap-l> http://www.defectivebydesign.org/nook <- sigh
[20:14] <snap-l> "Do you use Twitter? Let @nookBN know that you won't buy a Nook until they drop DRM. But please don't use Twitter on account of us."
[20:14] <snap-l> "Comment on news stories and reviews of the Nook to warn shoppers about its DRM."
[20:14] <brousch> so the nook is evil because it can read drm?
[20:14] <brousch> it can also read non-drm
[20:17] <snap-l> "Bring cans of spray-glue to your local B&N to and spray the devices down liberally. Then attach your cheek to them, symbolizing the stickiness of DRM"
[20:18] <brousch> ug
[20:19] <brousch> 3/4 of the books i read on my nook are sitting in my dropbox
[20:21] <TeamXlink> http://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/j4v6p/this_whole_discussion_is_amazing_top_comment_why/c29f4ny?context=1
[20:21] <TeamXlink> Title: "This whole discussion is amazing. Top comment: "Why are there moderators on an anarchism sub reddit?" "
[20:22] <TeamXlink> http://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/commenThat guys a genius
[20:30] <jrwren> is kindle ok?
[20:45] <snap-l> jrwren: No, any DRM is bad
[20:49] <jrwren> is ITMS ok now, since they dont' DRM the mp3 anymore?
[20:58] <snap-l> I really hate corporate IT sites
[20:58] <snap-l> "Important: In order to get started with Live Meeting, you need to first Register for a Live Meeting Account.  Then, get assistance on how to properly setup your user preferences."
[20:58] <snap-l> Of course, the words "Register ... Account" are bolded
[20:58] <snap-l> and don't link to a fucking thing.
[21:01] <snap-l> All I want to do is schedule a meeting
[21:16] <snap-l> god, what a pain in the ass
[21:17] <snap-l> reason I was having trouble was because of Firefox vs. IE
[21:17] <snap-l> because MS products don't crap out in explainable ways when they don't have IE
[21:27] <snap-l> Hey, vimmers, how would I change a list of names (lastname, firstname mi) to (firstname mi lastname)?
[21:29] <_stink_> if i were doing that, i'd do it with macros, which may not be the smartest way.
[21:29] <_stink_> record a macro for one line, go to the next line, end recording
[21:30] <_stink_> record a second macro doing the first macro for like 10 lines
[21:30] <_stink_> the run the second macro repeatedly
[21:30] <snap-l> hmm, that' sone way
[21:30] <_stink_> it's an unsatisfying way. :)
[21:30] <snap-l> looking for a %s/ ... /.. /g rule, though
[21:30] <_stink_> yeah
[21:31] <snap-l> I thought you could use $1, but that's not right.
[21:47] <snap-l> found it
[21:47] <snap-l> %s/\(.*\), \(.*\)/\2 \1/g
[22:05] <_stink_> dang.
[22:05]  * _stink_ notes
[22:43] <gamerchick02> hey everyone! I have a job interview Thursday.
[22:43]  * gamerchick02 does a happydance around her house
[22:44] <brousch> where at?
[22:45] <gamerchick02> MGA Testing.
[22:46] <gamerchick02> MGA Research. sorry
[22:46] <brousch> oooh, they have robots
[22:46] <gamerchick02>  hahaha!
[22:46] <gamerchick02> robots are awesome.
[22:46] <gamerchick02> it looks like sled testing and stuff
[22:47] <brousch> like snow sleds?
[22:47] <gamerchick02> crash sleds
[22:48] <gamerchick02> where they put car bits on it, crash it, and see how the dummy deforms the parts
[22:48] <brousch> fun
[22:48] <gamerchick02> usually for columns, i-shafts, wheels, etc
[22:49] <gamerchick02> i-shaft = intermediate shaft. please no shaft jokes
[22:49] <greg-g> none here
[22:49] <gamerchick02> :)
[22:50] <gamerchick02> i did a test at delphi with grease... yeah... i was describing it to my family: "so i had to grease the shaft and test the sliding force."
[22:50] <gamerchick02> yeah. *hands head in shame*
[22:53] <gamerchick02> no puns from the peanut gallery?
[22:57] <brousch> none necessary
[22:59] <gamerchick02> :)
[23:56] <snap-l> gamerchick02: Congratulations!
[23:57] <snap-l> Sounds like the stuff that was at Ford
[23:57] <gamerchick02> thanks. it's a testing place, and i have no idea what it's about.
[23:57] <snap-l> Means they'll do a lot of simulation
[23:57] <gamerchick02> i had a strange phone call, and it was like, boom, interview.
[23:57] <snap-l> Programs like Madymo, etc
[23:57] <snap-l> That's usually how that starts.
[23:57] <gamerchick02> no contact with them before the phone call "do you want an interview"
[23:58] <gamerchick02> uhm, YES!
[23:58] <gamerchick02> :)