[00:00] <leafcutter9000> D3814N: Could be an issue with it starting, I suggest checking the logs
[00:00] <th0r> D3814N: start gnome-panel and when you log out make sure you save the session.
[00:00] <D3814N> ok thanks leafcutter9000 and th0r
[00:00] <Lataria> my ubuntu don't start properly I'm in other PC but i've managed to start command line whi net protocols
[00:00] <Lataria> can i connect to internet?
[00:01] <Lataria> 10.04
[00:01] <Viking667> meh. I'm not having much luck with IRC servers today.
[00:01] <Tech-1> Does this have to be added to apparmor ? --- processes are unconfined but have a profile defined.   /sbin/dhclient (1052)
[00:04] <gamingdroid> what is the proper way to change the user/group of apache? when I look inside the conf file there is some kind of script...???
[00:04] <leafcutter9000> Tech-1: If you restart the process, it will be protected by apparmor
[00:04] <Tech-1> ah, ic , ok..thanks
[00:04] <leafcutter9000> Tech-1: The process was probably started before apparmor loaded
[00:05] <Tech-1> ya, it was
[00:05] <Tech-1> on boot
[00:05] <Tech-1> i see how it works now..thanks
[00:05] <Lataria> Infernet:  no encunetra la sap o no esta instalada es lo primero que sale
[00:05] <Lataria> después se apaga si quiero arrancar normal
[00:06] <Lataria> sorry
[00:07] <leafcutter9000> gamingdroid: You want to change the user which starts the apache program? Or the user who owns the web files apache serves?
[00:07] <gamingdroid> I want to change the user that apache spawns as, currently it is www-data
[00:08] <gamingdroid> leafcutter9000: ^^^
[00:09] <leafcutter9000> gamingdroid: You can specify the user/group in your httpd.conf, and run apache as root. It will switch to the user you specify
[00:09] <leafcutter9000> Not sure why you'd need to run as a different user though
[00:09] <bizby> I need help with grub after installing windows. I ran grub-install from a livecd, but when I boot up it just gives me a grub command prompt... update-grub gives me an error
[00:11] <gamingdroid> leafcutter9000: There is a comment in the apache2.conf file suggesting thisL "# These need to be set in /etc/apache2/envvars" When I go into that file it is some kind of script?
[00:12] <Ibyss> How can I browse in another partition, via, terminal?
[00:12] <dr_willis> env vars = bash enviroment variables.. im guessing
[00:12] <leafcutter9000> gamingdroid: I'd presume an additional config file. I've only setup apache on Red Hat
[00:12] <Ibyss> I want to look in sda3
[00:12] <dr_willis> Ibyss:  cd to its mounted location
[00:12] <edbian> Ibyss: Mount that partition (it may already be) than go to that folder.
[00:12] <dr_willis> !mount
[00:13] <bizby> sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt
[00:14] <Intel_iX> how do you share public keys with "passwords and encryption"?
[00:15] <torsion> vlc n00b here. How do I use the get_length command? I have an mp4 file here, what magic command do I type to get its length?
[00:15] <Viking667> why do you need that length?
[00:16] <ratkinson> I have a small script i need to autostart when ubuntu 11.04 starts. where do i add it to make it start when ubuntu starts?
[00:16] <ZeZu> why does apt tell me packages are held back and i need to do a dist-upgrade to get them?   I thought dist-upgrade was meant to move to the next release?   ie:  when unstable is moved to stable ...
[00:16] <ASKidwai> how do i make qBittorrent start on boot?
[00:16] <edbian> ZeZu: do-release-upgrade is used to move from one release to the next.  Not sure what dist-upgrade is for anymore...
[00:16] <ZeZu> ratkinson, you can add it to the startup scripts depending on how you would like it run ( IE: which runlevel, and if you need it restarted if its quit )
[00:17] <zeppelin101> how can i find out what's the max supported (custom resolution) for my graphics adapter? It's intel integrated gfx in my aspire 5741-5763
[00:17] <ZeZu> edbian, ok thanks,  I am sane though,  thats what it used to be for?
[00:17] <dr_willis> edbian:  i finf dist-upgrade pulls in a 'more intensive' upgrade. often kernels and drivers
[00:17] <Viking667> ZeZu: you did try :apt-get upgrade: first?
[00:17] <ZeZu> I was thinking that they were being held back because of incompatibilities w/ binary drivers,  but was surprised to see dist-upgrade lets me
[00:17] <frozenpacket> Anyone know anything about Roll back?
[00:17] <ratkinson> ZeZu: where are the startup scripts located?
[00:18] <ZeZu> Viking667, of course, thats what said they were held bakc
[00:18] <edbian> ZeZu: According to the man page it is a more intense upgrade (I just use sudo aptitude safe-upgrade)
[00:18] <ZeZu> ratkinson,  look at docs for initd
[00:18] <ASKidwai> how do i make qBittorrent start on boot?
[00:19] <ratkinson> ZeZu on the ubuntu forums?
[00:19] <edbian> ASKidwai: add it to system -> preferences -> startup
[00:19] <Jordan_U> ZeZu: dist-upgrade is used when to update certain packages other packages must be installed or removed (rather than just updated). This normall means that something is somewhat broken if you're not using a development release (also common if you use poorly managed ppas)
[00:19] <ASKidwai> edbian, where is the executable binary?
[00:19] <ZeZu> Jordan_U, thanks
[00:19] <edbian> ASKidwai: what program is it?
[00:19] <frozenpacket> so does anybody know anything about Ubuntu or is everyone pretty much lurking just asking
[00:20] <ASKidwai> qBittorent
[00:20] <ParadigmUltra> Is there a way to edit lyrics in Banshee?
[00:20] <Viking667> frozenpacket: I know some stuff but not a lot.
[00:20] <ASKidwai> installed from Ubuntu software center
[00:20] <ZeZu> ratkinson, i'm sure the ubuntu forums might find it too,  i just use google personally
[00:20] <edbian> ASKidwai: somewhere in /usr/bin
[00:20] <edbian> ASKidwai: assuming it was installed from the package manager
[00:20] <ASKidwai> edbian, installed from Ubuntu software center
[00:20] <mcurran> Anyone know the fix when you cannot connect to unsecured wireless networks?
[00:21] <th0r> mcurran: install a wifi card?
[00:21] <aeon-ltd> ParadigmUltra: depends how they handle them, if say they cache them they should have a dotfolder with all of the ones you have downloaded
[00:21] <Artificial_24> I keep getting a build error -> http://pastebin.com/xhWjbM0f
[00:21] <Artificial_24> Anyone know if the program was badly downloaded or am I missing something..
[00:22] <mcurran> I have an installed wireless card, works fine.  I use wicd and or dhclient, but I can only connect to encrypted networks.  If i try to connect to an unsecured AP, I cannot connect.
[00:22] <edbian> ASKidwai: then it's in /usr/bin.  However ubuntu automatically looks in certain locations (including /usr/bin) when you give a command.  So likely you can just guess the name in the terminal and that will be enough to run the program.  /usr/bin has a LOT of stuff in it.
[00:22] <ASKidwai> edbian, thank you :D
[00:22] <edbian> ASKidwai: The ubuntu software center is a graphical front-end to the package manager apt
[00:22] <edbian> ASKidwai: sure
[00:22] <ASKidwai> :D
[00:23] <ParadigmUltra> aeon-ltd: I used iTunes to write all my lyrics into the mp3 file, and they all display in Banshee, but I can't see how to add more manually
[00:23] <Troy^> ok so when i plug my headphones in i can still hear the sound over my laptop speakers. so how do i prevent the laptop speakers from staying on when headphones plugged in?
[00:23] <Viking667> Artificial_24: check lengths of the original tarball
[00:23] <ParadigmUltra> Troy^: I had that problem in 9.10, I fixed by upgrading to 11.4
[00:23] <frozenpacket> edbian: Do you know anything about Graphics cards?
[00:24] <ASKidwai> Troy^, did you plug it in the headphone port or mic port?
[00:24] <Viking667> the other thing to try would be extracting by using the shell, instead of a GUI. That'll sometimes turn up whether the package was broken.
[00:24] <edbian> frozenpacket: yep.  ati or nvidia?
[00:24] <ratkinson> ZeZu, if i add my script to the end of /etc/init.d/x11-common will it screw anything up?
[00:24] <Troy^> no the speaker port
[00:24] <edbian> ratkinson: The correct place would be /etc/rc.local
[00:24] <frozenpacket> edbian: i know what i have to do but i tried it and doesn't work
[00:24] <ratkinson> oh ok
[00:24] <ratkinson> thanks!
[00:24] <frozenpacket> edbian: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4
[00:24] <Drone4four> ok, what does it say?
[00:24] <Troy^> well im using a self installed alsa driver due to laptop subwoofer not working with standard driver
[00:25] <th0r> mcurran: usually the other way around. What errors do you get when it fails. Have you checked dmesg after trying? Or better yet, start a 'tail -f /var/log/messages' before attempting so you can see errors in real time
[00:25] <Drone4four> damn, wrong channel
[00:25] <Drone4four> nvm
[00:25] <Viking667> Right. I'll go see if I can prod something into life. I'll disappea.
[00:25] <frozenpacket> roll back or something like that but i can't edit my /etc/apt/sources.list: file
[00:25] <edbian> frozenpacket: what is your question?
[00:25] <ParadigmUltra> I'm so mad that I can't play my iTunes music that I bought!  Now I have to go aquire another copy without restrictions.
[00:25] <edbian> frozenpacket: how are you trying to edit it? gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  ?
[00:26] <ParadigmUltra> I'm buying from amazon from now on
[00:26] <Troy^> uh oh now i have no sound
[00:26] <edbian> ParadigmUltra: DRM stinks
[00:26] <frozenpacket> edbian: what its not working when i do Sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel-2.4
[00:26] <mcurran> I get this, which is basically a non-authentication/timeout I believe:  No DHCPOFFERS received.
[00:26] <mcurran> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
[00:26] <ASKidwai>  /usr needs root but I write some stuff for a site that that requires me to download and upload stuff and the download manager needs access to /usr
[00:26] <th0r> mcurran: right, looks like a dhcp issue
[00:27] <ASKidwai> my question is, is there anyway to give it access
[00:27] <qin> ASKidwai: site? You mean www?
[00:27] <ASKidwai> qin, yes
[00:27] <edbian> frozenpacket: One thing at a time.  Were you able to edit /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[00:27] <Artificial_24> Can someone give me the link that was offered earlier regarding the realtek wifi drivers?
[00:27] <ratkinson> edbian: when i edit rc.local it says by default this script does nothing. How would i go about enabling it?
[00:27] <qin> ASKidwai: Anywhere you want.
[00:27] <frozenpacket> edbian
[00:27] <frozenpacket> edbian: no i wasn't
[00:27] <dewey42> which loadkeys should I use for spanish keyboard?
[00:27] <frozenpacket> edbian: it won't let me edit anything in that file
[00:28] <ZeZu> ratkinson, sorry bit busy here,  take a look in:  /etc/init.d/README
[00:28] <ratkinson> ok
[00:28] <ratkinson> thanks
[00:28] <ZeZu> it gives a few notes and some links
[00:28] <Artificial_24> i believe it was spoken of earlier by Th0r, he pasted ubuntu forums url, if anyone can give it to me again I'd appricate it.
[00:28] <ZeZu> basically you don't need to edit any of htem
[00:28] <edbian> ratkinson: It runs by default.  It just doesn't do anything.
[00:28] <ZeZu>  you just add another script in the appropriate place that does nothing other than startup your app and tell what to do if it needs to be restart .... mostly for services
[00:28] <Frankyo> Im gonna give up
[00:28] <edbian> frozenpacket: answer my question then.  How did you edit it?  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:29] <ASKidwai> qin, the download only does stuff in /usr
[00:29] <ZeZu> Frankyo, giving up is your own issue :)  .... what is your issue anyhow ?
[00:29] <ASKidwai> qin, I can't control where it does that
[00:29] <Frankyo> i been trying for days to get Belkin f7d2101 to work with ubuntu 10.04
[00:29] <frozenpacket> edbain: i wasn't able to edit it...
[00:29] <ZeZu> Frankyo,  I don't have one of those, sorry .... what is it?  usb wifi ?
[00:29] <frozenpacket> edbain: i open the file i can read it in notepad but i can't edit it
[00:29] <Frankyo> usb wifi
[00:30] <mcurran> NO th0r, It's not a dhcp issue, even though it looks like it.  I cannot connect to the unsecured AP's, while they connect fine in windows.  This is the same result for any unsecured network using either wicd-client, nm, or dhclient, and I'm not the only one.  Cannot find a solution yet online.
[00:30] <edbian> frozenpacket: Are you using windows to edit this file?  How are you using notepad?
[00:30] <Frankyo> i did the procedures of this forum  --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9759011
[00:30] <ZeZu> Frankyo, you use iwconfig ?
[00:30] <Frankyo> zezu: no i did not
[00:30] <Frankyo> i did lsusb
[00:31] <robin0800> Artificial_24, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604101
[00:31] <frozenpacket> edbian: sorry text editor
[00:31] <ZeZu> Frankyo,  ok lsusb just lists usb devices plugged in,  .... i mean if you got that firmware file in link you posted etc ...
[00:31] <ZeZu> then is it being loaded and used ?
[00:31] <Frankyo> when i do lsusb i see the device   bus 001 Device 004: ID 050D:2103 Belkin componets
[00:31] <edbian> frozenpacket: Use this: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   after you edit / save the file and sudo apt-get update the package will appear.
[00:31] <ZeZu> ok so do a lsmod and see if your driver is loaded
[00:31] <Frankyo> i see the device but its not working, i can't connect to the internet and the light on the usb belkin does not turn on
[00:32] <Artificial_24> robin0800: thanks
[00:32] <ZeZu> ok but is the driver loaded ?
[00:32] <ASKidwai> qin, the download manager only uses stuff in /usr
[00:32] <ZeZu> if not, then thats not surprising
[00:32] <ZeZu> lsmod should list r8192s_usb
[00:32] <ZeZu> if not then try:  sudo modprobe r8192s_usb
[00:34] <mcurran> for using realtek 8192 usb, download the newest driver directly from realtek's website.  You will need to know the specific chip 8192CU, 8192SE, etc.
[00:34] <ParadigmUltra> So there is no way to edit the Lyrics metadata of mp3s in banshee?
[00:34] <mcurran> then modprobe -l <driver>
[00:34] <Artificial_24> Viking667: Its the exact same size as it is on the ftp.
[00:35] <Viking667> hm. is there any md5sum data?
[00:35] <Viking667> ... though personally, from what you posted, I suspect a missing/changed header file.
[00:35] <Frankyo> Zezu: http://pastebin.com/xRdauhcM
[00:36] <Viking667> Anyway, I'm heading off to do some testing.
[00:37] <odie5533> Where should I install programs I compile from source?
[00:37] <edbian> odie5533: /usr/local/bin or ~/bi
[00:37] <edbian> n
[00:37] <edbian> odie5533: ~/bin if only your user is going to use it
[00:38] <odie5533> What is /usr/bin/ for?
[00:38] <edbian> odie5533: /usr/bin is for binaries installed by the package manager
[00:38] <edbian> odie5533: /usr/local/bin is for things you've manually installed that everybody can use.
[00:38] <odie5533> how does it differ from /bin?
[00:39] <edbian> odie5533: /bin is stuff that is core to the system and cannot / should not be removed.
[00:39] <Frankyo> Zezu: Fatal: Module 8192s_usb not found
[00:39] <edbian> odie5533: Things like cd go in /bin
[00:39] <odie5533> oh. thank you.
[00:39] <edbian> odie5533: sure :)
[00:39] <witeshark> still not able to boot 11.04
[00:40] <Frankyo> can i pm you please?
[00:40] <witeshark> the repair MBR steps appeared to work but it still won't boot
[00:40] <edbian> witeshark: What happens when you try to boot?
[00:40] <Frankyo> mcurran and zezu  can i pm you please
[00:41] <Cerrdor> how do I open a .jar file in Ubuntu?
[00:41] <Frozenpacket> Okay did that whats next?
[00:41] <witeshark> edbian: the error seen here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1432486
[00:41] <mcurran> sure
[00:41] <Cerrdor> do I need to open it in terminal or browse to the file
[00:41] <Cainus> hey all...  I'm currently piping a command to /bin/true to get it to give a 0 exit code everytime... is there a way to get it to give a 0 exit code if it's 0 or 2 (but not 1)?
[00:41] <edbian> witeshark: reading...
[00:42] <edbian> witeshark: you did what jeff anthony said in the second post?
[00:43] <witeshark> edbian: not yet - i did all this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[00:43] <odie5533> What does the 'source' program do? It has no man page.
[00:43] <zeppelin101> any here use a kvm switch (or output to monitor from laptop using a vga cable)? for some reason, the picture i get on the monitor is quite lacking in brightness/color, and this is something which does not match the laptop's or the monitor's settings
[00:44] <edbian> witeshark: What happens right now when you boot?  (did any of these steps change anything?)
[00:44] <unomi> is it just me that finds it really annoying and silly that: Alt+rightdrag doesn't resize. When you get a 'New Mail notification', you can't actually click on the popup to read it ( and it has no info on the email ( title, sender *anything* ). When you are in the file navigator - you can't seem to choose to open a terminal window in a given folder?
[00:44] <Cerrdor> how do I open a .jar file in Ubuntu?
[00:45] <Zelda> hello. is there an app that will help with the system management. LIke throttling down cpu and brightness etc?
[00:45] <witeshark> edbian: no change - get exactly what's seen in the first post from UBF
[00:45] <edbian> Cerrdor: .jar files are compressed (zip I believe).  Open it with file-roller
[00:45] <zeppelin101> zelda: you can surely adjust brightness with 'monitor' applet. just search for it
[00:45] <robin0800> unomi, think theirs a nautilus add on for that
[00:45] <edbian> witeshark: Then a mistake was made.  I can help walk you through it.  I have fixed this issue before.  Are you in Ubuntu right now??
[00:46] <witeshark> i'm running off my live CD
[00:46] <Cerrdor> edbian, archiver?
[00:46] <Loshki> odie5533: source is a shell builtin, search 'man bash
[00:46] <Zelda> @zeppelin I know that. Is there an app to throttle down the cpu mine is always running and the fans are getting to hot for the notebook to be sitting here.
[00:46] <edbian> Cerrdor: sure
[00:46] <edbian> witeshark: Did you mount the ubuntu partition in /mnt  ?
[00:47] <Cerrdor> just says it not able to open it
[00:47] <edbian> Cerrdor: Then I'm not sure
[00:47] <Pici> Cainus: I'm sure you probably could do something fancy with || and && to do that, but I'd need to be more awake than I am right now to tell you how.  Have you tried asking in #bash ?
[00:48] <edbian> Cerrdor: extract JAR files using the jar command that comes with a JDK
[00:48] <witeshark> edbian: i just followed the steps in the link i posted -- i did get the 'installation finished - no errors reported' message - but no reboot
[00:48] <odie5533> Loshki: Thanks. I did help source and that helped :)
[00:48] <witeshark> edbian:  should we pm?
[00:48] <edbian> witeshark: if you want to PM I am up for it
[00:49] <Zelda> anyone?
[00:49] <odie5533> Every program I look for wants me to build it from source and recommends that over using the repos. Isn't the whole point of having repos so I don't have to build everything from source?
[00:49] <Cainus> Pici: trying now :)
[00:49] <Cainus> thanks
[00:49] <odie5533> When should I ever build a program from source when it's available in a repo somewhere?
[00:50] <edbian> odie5533: yes, ignore that advice.  If it's in the repos use the repos unless YOU want some feature that is not in the version in the repos
[00:50] <edbian> odie5533: If the version in the repo has a bug or is missing a feature.
[00:50] <edbian> odie5533: ALWAYS install from the repos first.
[00:50] <Pici> Also remember:
[00:50] <Pici> !latest
[00:51] <Unbuntu_N0oB> Can anyone tell me how to create a directory easily ? I mkdired but when I try to create a subdirectory in it ... I get a 'permission denied' error
[00:52] <edbian> Unbuntu_N0oB: If you want to create a dir not in your home folder use sudo mkdir
[00:53] <odie5533> Pici: oh, wow. I didn't realize they only update for security problems between releases.
[00:53] <Unbuntu_N0oB> edbian:  I did but .... lemme explain more in details: I am creating this dir so that I can install a virtualBox in it .... But when i run VirtualBox, I then get the permission error .... So basically, I want a directory that can be used by an application ..... and have the right permissions
[00:54] <edbian> Unbuntu_N0oB: put the directory in your home folder (don't use sudo)
[00:54] <Unbuntu_N0oB> I tried but VirtualBox crashed because my home is encrypted ...
[00:55] <edbian> Unbuntu_N0oB: Then sudo mkdir /some/where/else/  and then sudo chown you:you /some/where/else/
[00:56] <zeppelin101> is it dangerous to use xrandr to set a non-standard resolution for my laptop? (e.g. native is 1366x768 and i wanna set it to 1680x1050)?
[01:01] <fluvvell> zeppelin101, if your card and monitor support it, 1680x1050 is not a problem
[01:01] <zeppelin101> fluvvell: 1680x1050 is monitor's native, but i have no idea if my laptop's [intel] integrated graphics chipset supports it
[01:02] <zeppelin101> it's certainly not one of the resolutions listed for LVDS1 when i run 'xrandr'
[01:03] <fluvvell> zeppelin101, the laptop monitor might not support it, but when you plug in the monitor it may be available in xrandr
[01:04] <fluvvell> thats what happens on my HP laptop.
[01:04] <zeppelin101> fluvvell: it might or might not support it, but i'm not sure if i should just run 'xrandr --output LDVS1 --mode 1680x1050'. Is that dangerous (forcing a non-standard resolution on the intel adapter)?
[01:05] <M4d3L> hi. anyone is using last version of cacti on ubuntu?
[01:05] <tyler_d> I have the nvidia drivers installed through the supported repositories; however I do not have 3d support. Hep me please?
[01:05] <fluvvell> zeppelin101, can you test it from the desktop with System->Preferences->Monitors?  That uses xrandr AFAIK
[01:05] <ikonia> M4d3L: which version ?
[01:06] <M4d3L> ikonia: 0.8.7g
[01:06] <ikonia> !info cacti
[01:06] <ikonia> M4d3L: that's the one currently in the reop
[01:06] <ikonia> repo
[01:06] <Cerrdor> anyone familiar with curl?
[01:07] <M4d3L> hum... it install the version 0.8.7e when I try to install it
[01:07] <M4d3L> on 10.04
[01:07] <Unbuntu_N0oB> edbian:  thanks a lot man ! It works !!!
[01:07] <ikonia> M4d3L: ahhh, that makes sense, 10.04 is older
[01:07] <M4d3L> can I upgrade to newer? on my server
[01:07] <ratkinson> alright, ive been trying and trying to get this to work and i cant figure it out. All i want to id is launch chromium-browser -- kiosk 10 seconds after boot... how do i do that (dont need anything special, dont care if it reopens after its been closed just want it to launch after booting into ubuntu)
[01:08] <ratkinson> id = do
[01:08] <ikonia> M4d3L: not through the package manager
[01:08] <ikonia> M4d3L: is there a problem with the version in 10.04
[01:08] <dr_willis> ratkinson:  you could make a custome x session for that.
[01:08] <M4d3L> dha
[01:09] <Northernen> '
[01:09] <bkerensa> Anyone know why images uploaded by Shotwell are not editable on FB?
[01:09] <dr_willis> ratkinson:  there may be some koisk howtos out for chromiom or some extenstions also
[01:10] <edbian> Unbuntu_N0oB: sure
[01:10] <ratkinson> dr_willis: i have penmount touchscreen drivers loading in my current (default) session will it effect that?
[01:10] <unomi> I swear that new mail popup is TAUNTING ME
[01:10] <M4d3L> ikonia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades is not good?
[01:10] <ratkinson> dr_willis: if i run chromium-browser --kiosk in a terminal it does exactly what i want it to do
[01:11] <ikonia> M4d3L: that's an upgrade of the whole OS
[01:11] <dr_willis> ratkinson:  depends on how they are getting loaded.  you can make a .xinitrc to run exactly what you tell it to
[01:11] <M4d3L> yeah. it what I mean
[01:11] <M4d3L> upgrade to 10.10?
[01:11] <ikonia> M4d3L: personally, I wouldn't as you'll lose LTS support
[01:11] <dr_willis> or copy and edit the gnome.desktop gdm file
[01:11] <ikonia> M4d3L: is there a reason you want to upgrade cacti ?
[01:12] <M4d3L> to use plugin in fact
[01:12] <ratkinson> dr_willis: all i want to run after ubuntu 11.04 loads is bash sleep 30; "chromium-browser --kiosk"
[01:12] <ikonia> M4d3L: which plugin ?
[01:12] <M4d3L> I have updated it. to last version manually. data is fetch but graph stay empty : http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/graphimagephp.png/
[01:13] <dr_willis> ratkinson:  you mean after x starts.. you can make a custome x session to do that
[01:13] <ikonia> M4d3L: what have you updated manually ?
[01:13] <M4d3L> cacti
[01:13] <ratkinson> dr_willis: i cnt just add it to a script that already runs in the current x?
[01:13] <M4d3L> from 0.8.7e to g
[01:13] <ikonia> M4d3L: that's a very bad idea, ubuntu's layout and plugin layout is custom, it's non-standard
[01:13] <ikonia> M4d3L: why did you update it from e to g ?
[01:13] <ratkinson> i guess i dont fully understand what a x session is tbh
[01:13] <M4d3L> to have last version lol
[01:14] <ikonia> M4d3L: then you have made a pointless mess of your system
[01:14] <dr_willis> ratkinson:  you want just the browser? or a normal desktop.and the browser..
[01:14] <ratkinson> yup
[01:14] <ikonia> M4d3L: if there is no reason to update and you've done it blindly with no understanding of the changes ubuntu makes, you will have broke it
[01:14] <ratkinson> well
[01:14] <ratkinson> dr_willis: normal desktop and the browser
[01:15] <M4d3L> I just updated php file.
[01:15] <M4d3L> its not supose to break. :(
[01:15] <ikonia> M4d3L: it is
[01:15] <M4d3L> I have pay attention to config setup
[01:15] <ikonia> M4d3L: as I said, ubuntu lays out a lot of things different,
[01:15] <dr_willis> ratkinson:  so use the autorun dir. and make a simple 2 line script.
[01:15] <ratkinson> dr_willis: can i add a bash command to the end of and currently running scripts?
[01:15] <M4d3L> so its better to install cacti wihout package?
[01:15] <ikonia> M4d3L: no, it's better to use the package manager
[01:15] <M4d3L> standalone
[01:16] <dr_willis> ratkinson: you are using gnome?
[01:16] <GTAXL> Anyone know how I can log out of ubuntu when it only shows desktop background?
[01:16] <M4d3L> but we stay with bug more longer?
[01:16] <ikonia> M4d3L: you have just told me there is no reason for you to upgrade, so why waste your time and break support
[01:16] <ikonia> M4d3L: what bug ?
[01:16] <ratkinson> dr_willis: ok :) wheres the auto run dir? I'm using a fresh clean install of ubuntu 11.04
[01:16] <M4d3L> all bug cacti have fix
[01:16] <ikonia> M4d3L: do any of them effect you ?
[01:16] <ratkinson> dr_willis: so yes i am using gnome
[01:16] <dr_willis> !autorun
[01:16] <ikonia> M4d3L: and not all version updates are bug fixes, some change functionality
[01:16] <dr_willis> !startup
[01:17] <dr_willis>  .config/atuorun i think
[01:17] <ratkinson> !boot
[01:17] <dr_willis> its not running at boot.. its at user login
[01:18] <ratkinson> ok
[01:19] <dr_willis>   .config/autostart   not run
[01:20] <ParadigmUltra> Well, I found that i can edit the lyrics using Rhytmbox :-/
[01:20] <ratkinson> dr_willis: how would i get to the .config/autostart location from terminal
[01:20] <ratkinson> dr_willis: i tried cd /.config
[01:21] <ratkinson> im sorry for being such a noob
[01:21] <dr_willis> ratkinson:  via cd command.. you may want to spend an hr learning shell basics
[01:21] <dr_willis> cd .config
[01:22] <dr_willis>   / means the root of the filesystem...
[01:22] <ratkinson> ah
[01:22] <dr_willis> bash / filesystem basics
[01:23] <ratkinson> dr_willis: so once im in .config/autostart/ i can just create a .sh file in there and make it exe?
[01:23] <dr_willis>   /home/username/.vonfig/autostart
[01:24] <dr_willis> yes.. make a script file.
[01:25] <dr_willis> 3 lines.. #!/bin/bash     sleep  20       yourcommand
[01:25] <Troy^> #!/usr/bin/env bash
[01:27] <ratkinson> bash -c "sleep 30; chromium-browser --kiosk" wont work? that works from terminal as intended
[01:28] <Troy^> have you chmod u+rx your script that you created
[01:28] <dr_willis> why so complex rat...
[01:29] <ratkinson> I chmod +x chromium.sh
[01:29] <dr_willis> script is allready running in bash.
[01:29] <ratkinson> need the u+rx as well
[01:30] <dr_willis> try it and see i guess. i dont see why you need the u rx
[01:30] <Troy^> no you dont
[01:31] <Troy^> but you dont need the bash command
[01:31] <dr_willis> the 3 lines i gave are a rather standard template script for doing the stuff like this
[01:33] <GTAXL> Anyone know how I can log out of ubuntu when it only shows desktop background?
[01:34] <coz_> GTAXL,   ctrl+alt+F1  log in   sudo  restart gdm
[01:35] <maheanuu> #redeclipse
[01:35] <pooltable> how to i look at my print jobs?
[01:36] <GTAXL> kk. :)
[01:37] <somsip> pooltable: http://localhost:631 if you use CUPS
[01:38] <dr_willis> lpq command  - old school way pooltable
[01:38] <juan_> hello
[01:39] <pooltable> ok i want to reprint a page i print eary in the day ?
[01:40] <GTAXL> Anyway to get rid of the grey bar at the top and bottom and make it match the theme? but without using unity, which is disabled
[01:40] <coz_> GTAXL,  to get rid of the bottom panel ,, right click   "delete panel"
[01:40] <WG1337> Hi! Is it possible to update my autoconf version from 2.50 to 2.67 in Ubuntu Lucid?
[01:40] <GTAXL> No, I wanna keep it. Just change it from grey to match the theme
[01:41] <coz_> GTAXL,  to get rid of the top panel,,well.. I have seen several   posts about this. but in all honestly I like my top panel so I never really tried any of them
[01:41] <coz_> GTAXL,  ah I see
[01:41] <coz_> GTAXL,   you mean to match the wallpaper?
[01:42] <GTAXL> no. The top and bottom bar are grey. Looks yuckie. And it doesn't match the theme set.
[01:42] <coz_> GTAXL, can you take a screenshot of the desktop and upload to picpaste.com   let me see what you mean
[01:42] <nickchow> 用蓝牙也可以啊
[01:42] <GTAXL> ok. I'll try
[01:42] <coz_> GTAXL,  just hit the printscreen button for that
[01:42] <GTAXL> ik
[01:44] <chucklarge> hey guys, i just got a 3tb drive.  formatted it ext4 and it shows up as 2tb, any ideas?  http://pastebin.com/uEEd3Mxu
[01:44] <GTAXL> http://picpaste.com/ubuntu-tDdF8TSO.JPG
[01:44] <chucklarge> if i don't partition as sdd1 and sdd instead, i get the 3tb
[01:44] <ikonia> chucklarge: you put a dos based partition table on it
[01:44] <chucklarge> ikonia: uhh really?
[01:45] <chucklarge> heh
[01:45] <preecher> when installing another distro on a partition how do i do it so i get a choice of which one i boot into?-when i install kubuntu on my empty partition i get a choice of booting into kubuntu on the that partition or ubuntu on the partition its on--but if i install something else when i reboot i only get the newly installed distro & ubuntu isnt listed
[01:45] <coz_> GTAXL, oh ok ,, that looks like the default gnome theme
[01:45] <ikonia> chucklarge: they are limited to 2TB
[01:45] <GTAXL> I want it to look like the old Ubuntu
[01:45] <coz_> GTAXL,  go into system/preferences/appearance,,  hit the customize button and change the theme to see if it changes
[01:45] <chucklarge> ikonia:  ok, thought i was doing ext4
[01:45] <frawst> What is the best program to use to boot up a windows program through?
[01:45] <ikonia> chucklarge: ext4 is a file system, not a partition table
[01:45] <GTAXL> It don't change
[01:45] <ikonia> chucklarge: ext4 is correct, but you have used an MS dos based partition table
[01:46] <ikonia> chucklarge: you need to use a GPT partition table
[01:46] <chucklarge> ikonia: ok, that makes sense, uh,
[01:46] <chucklarge> ikonia: headless box
[01:46] <coz_> GTAXL,  let me check something,, I know this has happened to some hold on
[01:46] <ikonia> chucklarge: what has that got to do with it?
[01:46] <chucklarge> oh, i thought it was some gui, sorry
[01:47] <frawst> Help Please : What program is the easiest to boot up a windows program through ubuntu? Is it possible to convert a desktop workspace into my Win7 enviro or something of the like?
[01:47] <ikonia> frawst: no
[01:47] <ikonia> !wine > frawst
[01:47] <ikonia> !appdb > frawst
[01:47] <chucklarge> ikonia: thanks i'll check it out
[01:47] <th0r> frawst: wine can run some windows programs, and I have windows7 installed in virtualbox but it does run rather slow
[01:47] <frawst> ubottu : Thanks very much
[01:48] <frawst> th0r : Thanks for the asst.
[01:48] <coz_> GTAXL,  out of curiosity,, which video card do yo u have there?
[01:48] <frawst> << Linux noob
[01:48] <coz_> GTAXL,   open a terminal      lspci | grep -i vga
[01:48] <GTAXL> It's a Virtual Box machine
[01:48] <coz_> GTAXL, ah  ok thats  probably why  hold on
[01:49] <GTAXL> I have a ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650
[01:50] <coz_> GTAXL,   read through this,,,  maybe it may help http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=41127
[01:51] <Galindar> hello all. I have been having the "out of range" monitor error since installing 11.04. I installed the startup-manager and the new driver from Aditional Drivers option. I then set the startup-manager to a setting that seems to be out of range for my monitor(1600x1200) although i was using 1920x1080. how do i change the settings in startup-manager so i can see my screen again?
[01:52] <dr_willis> Galindar:  just the bootmenu had the issue . desktop.works ?
[01:52] <zeppelin101_> is it possible to force a different aspect ratio onto your display adapter? (in my case it's intel integrated graphics)
[01:53] <WG1337> How to update autoconf to 2.67? ubuntu doesn't alow to go further then 2.65
[01:54] <Galindar> dr_willis: previous to me changing the settings in startup-manager yes. now desktop will not work when i hit enter at the first "out of range" error. it goes into a second "out of range" error upon the desktop loading. and i can not get to the grub. it gives same error.
[01:55] <dr_willis> Galindar:  i dont trust startup manager.. ;)  for the grub part. edit the /etc/default/grub and set it up to use a low res text menu screen. ( uncomment 1 line i think)
[01:55] <Galindar> i have been trying to burn a new ubuntu dvd but my InfraRecorder seems to act like it's burning but burn nothing to the dvd. I installed a brand new dvdrw i had laying around and same error still..
[01:55] <dr_willis> Galindar:  as for the x issue... not sure
[01:55] <player> Hi guys, I am having a ton of trouble installing ubuntu. For example, Ubuntu is not detecting the new partition I created. Also, it keeps giving me the error "No root file system is defined. Please correct this from the partitioning menu."
[01:56] <Galindar> how do i edit grub when i can not see anything at any point other than "out of range"? lol i feel like pulling my hair out..
[01:57] <zeppelin101_> galindar: i dont think you're meant to edit grub by hand nowadays. i suggest you use an app like 'startup manager'
[01:58] <ratkinson> dr_willis: got it! thanks a lot man!
[01:58] <Explodingpiglets> test
[01:58] <Galindar> zeppelin101_: i used the startup-manager and set monitor to 1600x1200 but my monitor does not recognize it. when desktop loads i recieve the "out of range" error once again ;c(
[01:59] <M4d3L> ikonia: I just installed cacti standalone last version and it work like a charm now :)
[01:59] <zeppelin101_> Galindar: i'm actually working on resolution problems myself :/
[01:59] <ikonia> M4d3L: well done, it won't be supported here
[02:00] <Galindar> is there an option to set startup-manager to defaults?
[02:00] <M4d3L> I know. I was just asked if someone have updated it to last version using ubuntu package.
[02:00] <witeshark> 11.04 grub problems... anyone know the answer?
[02:00] <JoseP> witeshark: 11.04 screwed up my server
[02:00] <Galindar> i was using 1920x1080 in 10.10 with no problem. i just assumed my monitor recognized 1600x1200 but it doesnt and now im at a loss of what to do since i get no visuals of any kind. i can boot desktop from the first "out of range" error by hitting enter, but since monitor does not recognize 1600x1200 i get a second "out of range" when desktop loads.. ;c(
[02:00] <dr_willis> ratkinson:  all this time for a  3 line script? ;)
[02:01] <mcurran> what tools should one use for messing with usb wireless cards in ubuntu?  should it show up under ifconfig if the module is loaded properly?
[02:01] <edbian> wireshark can't install grub to /dev/sda  He mounted his root in /mnt and we ran sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda  but dd if=/dev/sda of=/
[02:01] <zeppelin101_> Galindar: no idea how to force it default, but .. you should always make backups of files like that!
[02:01] <mcurran> I'm trying to designate wlan1 to my belkin f7d1101v1/8192su/8712u module.
[02:01] <edbian> wireshark can't install grub to /dev/sda  He mounted his root in /mnt and we ran sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda  but dd if=/dev/sda of=~/mbr   and then file ~/mbr does not show 'GRand Unified Bootloader' for some reason. Help?  Ideas?
[02:01] <mcurran> can't get it to load up
[02:01] <ratkinson> dr_willis: i know wheres the start > programs > startup folder for ubuntu :)
[02:01] <dr_willis> Galindar:  live cd, and chroot in. edit grub configs first. then reboot to text mode and fix x
[02:02] <mcurran> different for each desktop, gnome, kde, unity, etc
[02:02] <mcurran> usually, /home/<username>/.config/autostart
[02:02] <pooltable> is there a way to print a page i print about 5 hours a go?
[02:02] <edbian> witeshark: you here?
[02:02] <witeshark> edyup
[02:02] <edbian> witeshark *** can't install grub to /dev/sda  He mounted his root in /mnt and we ran sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda  but dd if=/dev/sda of=~/mbr   and then file ~/mbr does not show 'GRand Unified Bootloader' for some reason. Help?  Ideas?
[02:02] <witeshark> edbian: yup
[02:02] <dr_willis> actually kde and gnome and lxde all use .confit/autostart now
[02:02] <edbian> witeshark: :)
[02:02] <mcurran> anyone help with wireless?
[02:03] <dr_willis> bbl
[02:03] <Galindar> dr_willis: any suggestions on a working iso burning software? InfraRecorder just seems to pretend it's burning something when in reality it's doing nothing..
[02:03] <Galindar> free'
[02:04] <Galindar> ty for the help dr_willis. once i get a dvd burnt i'll try what you suggested.
[02:05] <K-Rich> Hey all
[02:06] <edbian> witeshark: Strange problem btw.  I'm thinking perhaps the partitions on the drive are a bit confused.  CAn you open gparted?
[02:07] <witeshark> edbian: i can try
[02:08] <witeshark> rebooting live cd now
[02:08] <firmevato> lots of lucas's in here right now
[02:08] <edbian> witeshark: k
[02:09] <witeshark> edbian: is it worth it to try to burn an 11.04 or 10.10 cd on the other computer?
[02:10] <edbian> witeshark: I don't think that's the problem but if you wanna try it I'm up for it.  Did you run gparted?
[02:10] <Polah> Does medibuntu contain Bluray codecs?
[02:10] <witeshark> live cd still booting
[02:10] <witeshark> syntax?
[02:11] <edbian> witeshark: gparted is in system -> admin -> gparted
[02:11] <syntaxx> i have 4 monitor setup using ubuntu 10.04 but i am having problem it makes my system slow and sometimes hangs.. im running a nvidia quadro nvs 295 video card. any idea?
[02:12] <Galindar> woot burnt dvd.. be back in a few
[02:12] <zeppelin101_> hey is it possible to 'reset' the wired network settings? i was messing with spoofing mac addresses and disabling network connections, and now, only the wifi works
[02:12] <witeshark> edbian: okay it's opne
[02:13] <edbian> witeshark: What does it think about things?  Any immediate errors about the sectors / partitions / mbr being messed up?
[02:13] <lucas_> ¿alguno que hable español?
[02:13] <edbian> witeshark: Do any of the partitions in the list on the bottom half have warning !'s or orange triangles or red circles?
[02:13] <rww> !es | lucas_
[02:13] <lucas_> ok gracias
[02:13] <witeshark> edbian: all looks good
[02:14] <edbian> witeshark: mmm, strange
[02:14] <K-Rich> funny, after dealing with my computer getting sluggish with flash in firefox, i said screw it and tried chrome and their flash linked across the system, and nvidia 173 driver, smooth as silk now even full screen
[02:14] <K-Rich> geforce 7300 go
[02:14] <syntaxx> i have 4 monitor setup using ubuntu 10.04 but i am having problem it makes my system slow and sometimes hangs.. im running a nvidia quadro nvs 295 video card. any idea?
[02:15] <lucas_> help whit videos
[02:15] <lucas_> when i play video
[02:16] <lucas_> whit mplayer
[02:16] <lucas_> Ubuntu 11.10 restart
[02:16] <edbian> witeshark *** can't install grub to /dev/sda  He mounted his root in /mnt and we ran sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda  but dd if=/dev/sda of=~/mbr   and then file ~/mbr does not show 'GRand Unified Bootloader' for some reason. Help?  Ideas?
[02:16] <lucas_> edbian
[02:17] <lucas_> do you install grub4dos?
[02:18] <nufced> is there a way to set defualt geometry and postion in terminal profiles?
[02:19] <zeppelin101_> nufced: you can set the default size of the terminal in the profile settings for terminal
[02:19] <lucas_> MARK SHUTTLEWORK IS ONLINE!!!
[02:20] <Fishscene> Greetings. I'm trying to log into Ubuntu 11.04. When I log in, the screen drops to a terminal saying something with the lines "spurious respons..." and dumps me back to the login screen. What should I do to diagnose/resolve this?
[02:20] <ikonia> lucas_: please don't
[02:20] <zeppelin101_> ikonia: what i was going to say..
[02:20] <ikonia> !topic > lucas_
[02:20] <zeppelin101_> lucas_: tone it down...
[02:20] <ikonia> !guidelines > lucas_
[02:21] <nufced> zepplin101: would that be in the custom command field?
[02:21] <witeshark> edbian: should we run update-grub after the install?
[02:21] <Fishscene> wait. nvm.
[02:22] <zeppelin101_> nufced: go to EDIT->Profile Preferences and check 'use custom default terminal size' box
[02:22] <zeppelin101_> (edit submenu when terminal is the active window)
[02:22] <lucas_> bot
[02:23] <ikonia> lucas_: ?
[02:23] <lucas_> que pasa ikonia
[02:23] <lucas_> ¿some problem?
[02:23] <ikonia> lucas_: what language do you speak ?
[02:23] <lucas_> I can help
[02:23] <lucas_> i speack spanish
[02:23] <ikonia> !es | lucas_
[02:24] <Infernet> jajaja
[02:24] <lucas_> infernet
[02:24] <Infernet> lucas_: entra aca #ubuntu-es
[02:24] <lucas_> como andas?
[02:24] <Infernet> bien
[02:26] <witeshark> edbian: i think i'll try what's here http://aaron-kelley.net/blog/2011/04/grub-prompt-after-upgrade-to-ubuntu-11-04/
[02:27] <nufced> zepplin101: im not seeing a option box relating to the terminal size
[02:28] <zeppelin101_> nufced: do you have ubuntu 11.04?
[02:28] <singingBird> zeppelin101_, i have ubuntu 11
[02:28] <nufced> zepplin101: using 10.04, sorry i shoulda mentioned that
[02:29] <singingBird> is it your fresh install?
[02:29] <nit-wit> witeshark, did you guys run the bootscript/
[02:29] <Fishscene> Does anyone know how to diagnose logon issues? AKA checking logs in realtime to see what is happening when a user logs in?
[02:29] <zeppelin101_> nufced: ok, so that's why its different for us. I'm guessing you can just right click on the top of the terminal window and maybe see what options are available
[02:29] <witeshark> nit-wit: which one?
[02:30] <nufced> well i dont have any options in my preference screen, i figured maybe there was some sorta script i could run to alter it
[02:30] <nit-wit> witeshark, http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/  if you like run it with a live cd or from a linux setup, and pastebin it
[02:31] <edbian> nit-wit: we did not
[02:31] <zeppelin101_> nufced: I really don't know how it is in 10.04, but i'm sure it's easy to find (you're just overlooking it somehow)
[02:31] <edbian> witeshark: update-grub only works from the actual system, not from a liveCD unless you chroot (and some other junk).
[02:31] <nit-wit> edbian, I just logged on at the end of your guy's work so I was just checking. ;)
[02:31] <edbian> witeshark: the problem is the install-grub isn't writing the MBR
[02:31] <edbian> nit-wit: sure :)
[02:31] <zeppelin101_> anyone know how to.. 'fix' eth0?
[02:32] <edbian> nit-wit: witeshark can't install grub to /dev/sda  He mounted his root in /mnt and we ran sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda  but dd if=/dev/sda of=~/mbr   and then file ~/mbr does not show 'GRand Unified Bootloader' for some reason. Help?  Ideas?
[02:32] <nufced> i tried running a "--geomtery=" script, but i wasnt havin any luck
[02:32] <zeppelin101_> it stopped working for me.. as a consequence i can only use wifi at the moment. I just always get a disconnected message
[02:32] <uRock> anyone ever noticed how you can torrent at the speed of the ISP, but sharing files from one Ubuntu machine to another refuses go more than 1.5MB/s?
[02:33] <nit-wit> edbian, could be a mixed grub=grub-legacy and grub2 hard to tell, the script will tell us a lot, so my default is to run the script.
[02:33] <edbian> nit-wit: sounds like you know more than I do :)
[02:33] <lwp> Hello, I'm using wubi with win 7. It worked fine for a while but now it goes to the grub> command line when I try to start Ubuntu. If I choose Windows it starts just fine.
[02:34] <edbian> uRock: You're limited by the read / write of the hdd
[02:34] <edbian> uRock: among other things, torrent is reading from multiple hdds at the same time so it is faster
[02:34] <nit-wit> edbian, I wouldn't say that per-say but I rather not guess, in boot problems. ;)
[02:34] <edbian> nit-wit: awesome
[02:35] <nit-wit> witeshark, if you lke run the script, and pastebin it.
[02:35] <uRock> edbian, I would think they could read faster, since the do both faster when copying to and from USBs
[02:35] <Fishscene> Does anyone know how to diagnose logon issues? AKA checking logs in realtime to see what is happening when a user logs in?
[02:35] <nit-wit> lwp, you need to reload the MS bootloader to the mbr do you have a recovery or installdisc?
[02:36] <edbian> uRock: hdds are much slower than usb drives.  usb drives are equivalent to solid state hdds.
[02:36] <edbian> uRock: especially for reading random files
[02:37] <uRock> never noticed. I'll test the HDDs with Disk Utility when the current transfer is done. Thanks edbian
[02:38] <nit-wit> lwp, actually your allright as far s the MS boot there is a wubi megathread at the Ubuntu forums are you familiar with it?
[02:38] <edbian> uRock: Sure, I think there are some other things to consider for bittorrent but indeed. bt is very very fast.
[02:39] <dumbo88> edbian usb3 stats seem impressive
[02:39] <lwp> nit-wit, no I'm not, just getting started with Ubuntu
[02:39] <witeshark> nit-wit: the linux comouter is not on line - running live cd
[02:39] <edbian> dumbo88: I haven't really look into that.  usb3 has been talked about for like 5 years now
[02:40] <dumbo88> gotta check support before getting a new laptop, huh? :-)
[02:41] <nit-wit> witeshark, can you get the script and transfer it to it run it and transfer it back to what your talking to us with and pastebin it. Otherwise we are flailing around basically, beyond a full purge and reinstall of grub.
[02:41] <nit-wit> witeshark, are you stillchrooted in?
[02:42] <witeshark> i'm at the 11.04 failed boot prompt
[02:43] <nit-wit> witeshark, your choice really if you boot a live cd and chroot in we can purge all of grub, and reinstall it if you like, I'm not real familiar with chrooting I just load this with the live cd or use supergrub2 to get in myself.
[02:45] <nit-wit> witeshark, I didn't see all you have tried did you guys just try reloading grub without the chroot to begin with from a Natty live cd.
[02:45] <witeshark> i don't have a natty live cd
[02:45] <witeshark> i upgrade from update manager
[02:46] <edbian> nit-wit: we mounted his root partiton (with grub on it in /mnt)
[02:46] <dumbo88> Can a wubi install move NTFS "immoveable" sections?
[02:46] <edbian> nit-wit: then we installed grub (sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda)
[02:46] <nit-wit> edbian, thaks. ;)
[02:46] <edbian> Then we used dd to check the mbr (dd if=/dev/sda of=~/mbr bs=512 count=1)
[02:47] <edbian> nit-wit: and file ~/mbr doesn't have 'GRand Unified Bootloader' in it, just some nonsense about sectors and stuff.  He can tell you in more detail.  The file ~/mbr is probably still there on his machine.
[02:47] <nit-wit> edbian, thanks for that info. ;)
[02:47] <edbian> nit-wit: witeshark I'm not sure he remembers / understands completely ;)
[02:48] <witeshark> this is my second MBR - Grub fix mission
[02:48] <edbian> hahahah
[02:48] <edbian> :)
[02:48] <kholerabbi> does anyone know how I can get the Ubuntu Monospace font?
[02:49] <witeshark> edbian: why cant i get something going here? http://aaron-kelley.net/blog/2011/04/grub-prompt-after-upgrade-to-ubuntu-11-04/
[02:49] <edbian> witeshark: I don't know exactly.
[02:49] <nit-wit> witeshark, so I have given you several options, the bootscript is best it will tell us exactly whats in the mbr and everywhere elae.
[02:49] <nit-wit> *elase
[02:49] <nit-wit> *else
[02:49] <edbian> *elease
[02:49] <lwp> nit-wit: in the forums but can't find the wubi=specific megathread, can you give me a url?
[02:50] <edbian> *esle
[02:50] <nit-wit> lwp, hold on
[02:50] <witeshark> nit-wit: the affected computer has no internet
[02:50] <nit-wit> lwp, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1639198
[02:50] <witeshark> edbian: what values for x,y and z work in that link?
[02:51] <edbian> witeshark: What link?
[02:51] <nit-wit> witeshark, right and I made a suggestion did you see it?
[02:51] <witeshark> nit-wit: yes
[02:51] <edbian> witeshark: oh, the one you just gave me!!  reading...
[02:51] <witeshark> edbian: ok
[02:51] <nit-wit> witeshark, can you get creative and get the script posted, really otherwise we are wasting our time here.
[02:52] <edbian> witeshark: for you X = 0, Y = 2 and Z = 3
[02:52] <witeshark> edbian: ok thanks
[02:52] <nit-wit> witeshark, you don't fix your car with a rag but a wrench the bootscipt is the wrench.
[02:53] <edbian> witeshark: sure, are you at that prompt
[02:53] <nit-wit> just a analogy to get this across.
[02:54] <nit-wit> edbian, get him in and purge grub grub-common grub-pc and reinstall the last twoo commands
[02:54] <JoeR1> I got an error on an autogen and it seems to indicate that I need to install GTK but I can't figure out the right file name for apt-get
[02:54] <nit-wit> common and pc
[02:54] <edbian> nit-wit: he's using a live CD to install grub.  Do you mean grub on the target system?
[02:54] <witeshark> edbian: almost - error unknown filesystem
[02:55] <edbian> witeshark: what gave that error?
[02:55] <nit-wit> edbian, yes without the script i would purge it all and reinstall grub2
[02:55] <AHMEDELKING> I`m Using a NeW LoKaa sCrIpT
[02:55] <witeshark> the grub prompt after those commands
[02:55] <JoeR1> Any suggestions?
[02:56] <edbian> nit-wit: How do you suggest we boot?
[02:56] <edbian> witeshark: with my values for the variables?
[02:56] <witeshark> edbian: yes
[02:56] <Fishscene> When I log in, I'm immediately dumped back to the login screen. I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 Desktop edition. Does anyone know what to do?
[02:56] <edbian> witeshark: Do you know if these are ext3 or ext4 partitions?
[02:56] <nit-wit> edbian, here is a link that is more explanatory of the options. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581099
[02:57] <edbian> nit-wit: Besides, what difference does the packages make on the target system?  The live CD won't even write to /dev/sda  !!
[02:57] <witeshark> edbian: AFAIK ext3
[02:57] <lwp> nit-wit: Thanks. I'm beginning to think it might be best to scrape wubi and do a true dual-boot install. To get my machine back to where it was, all I need to do is uninstall wubi, is that correct?
[02:57] <edbian> witeshark: Agreed, this is what version?
[02:57] <nit-wit> lwp, yes it is in add remone or uninstall in W7 in the admin account
[02:57] <HHH> I`m Using a NeW LoKaa sCrIpT
[02:58] <witeshark> edbian:  version?
[02:58] <nit-wit> edbian, I think you are dealing with user error to be honest.
[02:58] <edbian> witeshark: of ubuntu, what version of ubuntu is the install
[02:58] <lwp> nit-wit: thanks, I appreciate your help. Have a good evening.
[02:59] <edbian> nit-wit: perhaps...
[02:59] <witeshark> nit-wit: all this started after 11.04 upgrade from update manager
[02:59] <HHH> F
[02:59] <HHH> F
[02:59] <HHH> F
[02:59] <edbian> witeshark: a-ha!  very telling
[02:59] <FloodBot1> HHH: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:59] <nit-wit> edbian, not yours, a cognizant person would figure out how to get that script posted.
[02:59] <witeshark> nit-wit: all i did was wait and try to reboot after download
[02:59] <edbian> nit-wit: I'm starting to agree that this is a grub vs grub2 issue
[02:59] <witeshark> nit-wit: the affected computer HAS no internet
[03:00] <witeshark> i posted that already
[03:00] <nit-wit> witeshark, the script and generated file from it are like 5 MB
[03:00] <nit-wit> witeshark, use a thumb or cd to transfer them.
[03:01] <edbian> I have to go unfortunately
[03:01] <Squirrel> Hello
[03:01] <witeshark> i'm typing here on a seperate computer
[03:01] <nit-wit> edbian, se yah . ;)
[03:01] <edbian> nit-wit: witeshark good luck!
[03:01] <JoeR1> what command should I use to install GTK 2.0? is it canonical?
[03:01] <nit-wit> witeshark, the other computer is with you there though correcty/
[03:02] <Guest20385> exit
[03:02] <Derpadong> Ive got a question. If youve got swap on another hard drive, could you switch out the hard drive and make a new swap?
[03:02] <JoeR1> what command should I use to install GTK 2.0? is it canonical?
[03:02] <witeshark> nit-wit: well the linux with the issue doesnt have that app on it
[03:02] <nit-wit> Derpadong, yes
[03:03] <Derpadong> nit-wit, its been awhile
[03:03] <Derpadong> Lol
[03:03] <Derpadong> Since we talked
[03:03] <Derpadong> I asked that question cause Im going to take my harddrive Im using atm for swap and put it back in its original area
[03:03] <nit-wit> witeshark, I have given you no app, but a script to download then a command in the terminal, you would take the generated text file from that and post it.
[03:04] <nit-wit> Derpadong, no doubt you can have a swap anywhere just set the fstab
[03:04] <Steve___> Hi, I've a ubuntu where ssh is limited by IP addresses. Unfortunately sometimes I need to access it while I'm on some dynamic IP. Is there a way to remotely authorize/maintain my dynamic ip in IPTABLES?
[03:04] <witeshark> nit-wit: so i download to a mac burn it to cd and it will work on the linux pc?
[03:04] <Derpadong> Thanks for the help nit-wit
[03:04] <Derpadong> Ill be back in a bit lol
[03:05] <JoeR1> what apt-get name should I use to install GTK 2.0?
[03:06] <JoeR1> is anyone helpful out there right now?
[03:07] <nit-wit> witeshark, your asking to mucj=h here we can't completely hold your hand some things you have to figure out. At least I can't this has gone past my patience level, sorry. ;(
[03:07] <fission6> where should i install not package mainted installations too? is there a recommendation? i am going to install komodo IDE and not sure where is best
[03:07] <mcurran> anyone know the benefits of increasing txpower to your wireless card?
[03:07] <Steve___> Alternatively is there a way to limit SSH connections by IP for non public/private key connections and accept all IPs with keys?
[03:08] <witeshark> nit-wit: you don't seem to get that i can't download sourceforge to the linux box - it's on live cd only
[03:08] <fission6> any folder recs?
[03:09] <nit-wit> witeshark, I get the hole scenario, don't worry, do this get a Natty cd and follow this link. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581099
[03:09] <nit-wit> witeshark, if you want to chroot in, you can use any ubuntu live cd.
[03:10] <Fishscene> Does anyone know how to resolve a login issue? I type username/password, and I'm dumped back to the login screen. I can not log in. Using Ubuntu 11.04
[03:11] <fission6> i feel this is a simple question
[03:11] <witeshark> nit-wit: i have 9.10 live cd
[03:12] <seclm193> hello everyone
[03:12] <Fishscene> Hi
[03:12] <nit-wit> witeshark, I will say this once not having a natty cd is bad protocol, if you did you would have been fixed ling ago., the9'10 may work but I will do no more than give that link.
[03:12] <mknarr> Hi
[03:13] <nit-wit> witeshark, the 9.10 is only good for chrooting in.
[03:13] <witeshark> nit-wit: should i burn an 11.04 to the mac and boot off that?
[03:13] <ubuntunoob> !v4l
[03:13] <fission6> what path do you gusy tend to install downloaded installation too?
[03:13] <ubuntunoob> !video4linux
[03:13] <ubuntunoob> anyone here know anything about video4linux ?
[03:13] <ubuntunoob> I have a HP webcam 101 and nothing seems to get it to work
[03:14] <ubuntunoob> using Ubuntu 10.04 lts
[03:14] <mknarr> do u have the webcam drivers installed ?
[03:14] <nit-wit> witeshark, post a thre.ad at the ubuntu forums
[03:14] <mknarr> if they were not allready installed
[03:14] <ubuntunoob> mknarr, not sure which drivers are they ?
[03:14] <witeshark> nit-wit: i have post in an existing thread
[03:14] <faint545> is there a way to restore a clonezilla backup image from inside ubuntu? without having to boot to clonezilla?
[03:15] <ubuntunoob> there is nothing in my "hardware drivers" program.. mknarr
[03:15] <seclm193> if the wubi installation has an error, does that mean theres a problem with the cd burn/
[03:15] <seclm193> ?
[03:15] <nit-wit> witeshark, never do that start your own the people who help, don't like piggybacking .
[03:15] <witeshark> nit-wit: okay
[03:15] <todd_> anyone know why navigation panel on top of screen is missing?
[03:16] <mknarr> ubuntunoob,  look up the model of your laptop and try and find the driver from the manufactures suport site they should have linux versions
[03:16] <nit-wit> seclm193, could mean anything when and where is the error?
[03:16] <nit-wit> seclm193, and what is the error
[03:16] <seclm193> nit-wit, inside windows 7 64bit, tried to install and it said Permission access error
[03:16] <ubuntunoob> ty mknarr
[03:16] <LinuxMan> does anybody know of any good games you can get in ubuntu?
[03:16] <mknarr> ubuntunoob,  np
[03:16] <nit-wit> witeshark, they will get you fixed I used to be on that forum specializing in this area.
[03:17] <nit-wit> seclm193, have you checked the md5sum?
[03:17] <witeshark> nit-wit: ima go ahead and burn a cd on the mac - i have so many
[03:18] <seclm193> nit-wit, i did.  it came out fine.  i'm having so much trouble with ubuntu and this laptop
[03:18] <mknarr> LinuxMan, you can get pretty much any game working in linux using WINE, the question is dose it workj well?
[03:18] <nit-wit> witeshark, cool burn the natty I will be here for awhile we can try a straight from the live cd reload of grub if you like.
[03:18] <nit-wit> seclm193, have you tried to just boot the disc?
[03:19] <jo-erlend> it seems to me that the volume has been dramatically lowered lately. Even if I run the master volume up to 150% with all other volume controls to max, it's very low. Can this be software, or what?
[03:19] <jo-erlend> I've never experienced anything like this ever before.
[03:19] <nit-wit> seclm193, are you doing this from the admin account?
[03:19] <todd_> can someone help me with problem?
[03:19] <jo-erlend> todd_impossible to tell unless you ask a question.
[03:20] <seclm193> nit-wit, because after something, my ubuntu install just starts freezing while loading xorg, so i decided a wubi install so i can see whats going on better
[03:20] <e-frame> LinuxMan: angry birds & angry birds rio works with wine ^_^
[03:20] <nit-wit> todd_, are you in the unity or classic desktop?
[03:20] <seclm193> nit-wit, i only have one account
[03:20] <todd_> nit, don't know
[03:21] <nit-wit> seclm193, so as I read you installed Ubuntu once but it froze at X basically is this correct?
[03:21] <nit-wit> seclm193, a dual bot not wubi install.
[03:21] <nit-wit> *boot
[03:21] <jo-erlend> todd_you you have a panel at the bottom of your screen?
[03:22] <seclm193> nit-wit, correct
[03:22] <seclm193> nit-wit, so i'm trying a wubi so i can try to find what is the problem.
[03:22] <witeshark> nit-wit: okay the download is near done
[03:22] <nit-wit> seclm193, do you know the graphic card on the computer?
[03:22] <todd_> nit, no bottom and no top
[03:22] <seclm193> nit-wit, radeon hd 6250
[03:22] <nit-wit> todd_, did you undertand my question?
[03:22] <jo-erlend> todd_, have you logged out and back in?
[03:23] <todd_> jo, yet multiple times
[03:23] <nit-wit> seclm193, that is a older card did you try any low graphic boot ins, the key word here is nomodeset?
[03:23] <todd_> yes
[03:23] <jo-erlend> todd_, do you use normal Ubuntu?
[03:23] <nit-wit> todd_, you didn't tell me which dektop it is.
[03:23] <nit-wit> *desktop
[03:24] <todd_> it used to work file until installed 10
[03:24] <nit-wit> todd_, ?
[03:24] <seclm193> nit-wit, brb
[03:25] <nit-wit> witeshark, cool boot up the natty I will give you some commands.
[03:25] <todd_> my keyboard has many blank keys
[03:25] <theadmin> nit-wit: I suppose what todd_ means is that her/his Ubuntu setup used to work fine until an upgrade to 10.x
[03:25] <nit-wit> witeshark, when its downloaded and burned of course
[03:25] <nit-wit> theadmin, I think your right. ;)
[03:25] <todd_> theadmin, correct
[03:26] <jo-erlend> todd_, installed ten what? If you're talking about a version of Ubuntu, there is always two versions a year, so ten doesn't mean much, except it was released in 2010.
[03:26] <nit-wit> todd_, can you tell us which dektop you not seeing, if you don't know it's not a big deal we afre just trying to communicate.
[03:26] <todd_> 10.10
[03:27] <nit-wit> todd_, this was a upgrade .
[03:27] <todd_> I can Alt-F1 but only get a partial menu
[03:28] <todd_> yes, it was forced on me
[03:28] <maheanuu__> I just downloaded and installed 11.04 for my grandson...   How do you find anything there????  I cannot find anything like the old style..   dunno about the new stuff, don't really make sense so far
[03:28] <jo-erlend> todd_, can you please press alt+f2. That will bring up a dialog. Enter "gnome-terminal". In the window that appears, enter "metacity --replace". See if that helps?
[03:28] <nit-wit> todd_, so you have upgraded, and never seen the regular desktop?
[03:29] <theadmin> todd_: If you want to log in to Gnome rather than Unity, select 'Ubuntu Classic' at the login screen in the session menu.
[03:29] <jo-erlend> maheanuu, on the left side, you have a launcher. One of the tiles is called Applications. If you right-click it, then you get a category of programs. You can display that list of categories in the dash as well, if you click in the upper-left corner.
[03:29] <Fishscene> If I log on to Ubuntu and it fails, where can I see the error logged?
[03:30] <nit-wit> maheanuu, the applications button is in the left panel litle box with the + in it.
[03:30] <Fishscene> or where is the error logged to?
[03:30] <LinuxMan> Why isn't minecraft.jar opening?
[03:30] <Fishscene> LinuxMan: Make sure you are using the Sun Java interpreter.
[03:30] <jo-erlend> maheanuu, you can press super (the one with windows icon) to bring it up and you can type a part of the name, if you want to.
[03:30] <todd_> after the upgrade, i lost my old desktop
[03:30] <LinuxMan> im using java runtime
[03:31] <maheanuu__> Ok, so far the eye candy is superb, I just have been using 10.10 on my machine and didn't realize that they were like night and day
[03:31] <Fishscene> From Sun Microsystems?
[03:31] <nit-wit> todd_, can you hit crtl-alt-t and get a teraminal.
[03:31] <Fishscene> LinuxMan: Check out the Linux instructions here: http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
[03:32] <jo-erlend> maheanuu, the new user interface is very much faster to work with. Try holding down super. The launcher appears and you see numbers over them. If you hold super and press one of those numbers, you will switch to that application if it's running or launch it if it isn't.
[03:33] <maheanuu__> Ok, and is there a noob manual for us handicapped old farts?
[03:33] <todd_> did metacity --replace. screen flashed a few time then nothing happened
[03:33] <jo-erlend> maheanuu, also, it remembers which files and applications you use most frequently and makes them easier to find. That's going to improve radically in the near future.
[03:33] <jo-erlend> maheanuu, yes, on http://help.ubuntu.com :)
[03:33] <maheanuu__> jo-erlend that wuz fer U
[03:33] <prezident> can any one tell me how to update my ubuntu kernel which is(2.6.35-28-generic-pae) every time i tried to upgrade it freezes my dell xps at start up is there a real fix for this problem?
[03:33] <Fishscene> Does any one of the 1400 people here have any idea how to diagnose and possibly resolve a login problem?
[03:34] <JoeR1> what login problem?
[03:34] <nit-wit> prezident, which ubuntu distro is that?
[03:34] <Barzogh> Fishscene: a password problem?
[03:34] <seclm193> nit-wit, i'm back.  ubuntu will boot in failsafex, but it seems to me that it's a problem with the device drivers
[03:34] <jo-erlend> Fishscene, can't you try to ask and see?
[03:34] <nb0qlk> http://www.gentoo.org/images/gwn/20050606_kloeri.jpg - PLEASE STOP ME BEFORE I MOLEST AGAIN. TEENAGERS AND YOUNG BOYS BEWARE! CONVICTED SEX OFFENDER Bryan 闷捤艙stergaard IS ON THE LOOSE AND HE'S AN ADMIN ON THIS NETWORK. PLEASE JOIN #COMMENT_ON_STAFF NOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THIS MAN, OR IF HE HAS SOLICITED YOU FOR ANAL SEX. WE ARE COMPILING TESTIMONY FOR A CLASS ACTION SUIT AGAINST FREENODE FOR GIVING THIS SICK INDIVIDUAL A PLACE TO RECRUIT SEX SLAVES.    nb0
[03:34] <nb0qlk> http://www.gentoo.org/images/gwn/20050606_kloeri.jpg - PLEASE STOP ME BEFORE I MOLEST AGAIN. TEENAGERS AND YOUNG BOYS BEWARE! CONVICTED SEX OFFENDER Bryan 闷捤艙stergaard IS ON THE LOOSE AND HE'S AN ADMIN ON THIS NETWORK. PLEASE JOIN #COMMENT_ON_STAFF NOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THIS MAN, OR IF HE HAS SOLICITED YOU FOR ANAL SEX. WE ARE COMPILING TESTIMONY FOR A CLASS ACTION SUIT AGAINST FREENODE FOR GIVING THIS SICK INDIVIDUAL A PLACE TO RECRUIT SEX SLAVES.    ama
[03:34] <Fishscene> JoeR1: When I log in, it drops to a full-screen terminal saying something about "spurious error" and then drops me immediately back to the login screen.
[03:34] <oihjem> http://www.gentoo.org/images/gwn/20050606_kloeri.jpg - PLEASE STOP ME BEFORE I MOLEST AGAIN. TEENAGERS AND YOUNG BOYS BEWARE! CONVICTED SEX OFFENDER Bryan 闷捤艙stergaard IS ON THE LOOSE AND HE'S AN ADMIN ON THIS NETWORK. PLEASE JOIN #COMMENT_ON_STAFF NOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THIS MAN, OR IF HE HAS SOLICITED YOU FOR ANAL SEX. WE ARE COMPILING TESTIMONY FOR A CLASS ACTION SUIT AGAINST FREENODE FOR GIVING THIS SICK INDIVIDUAL A PLACE TO RECRUIT SEX SLAVES.    oi
[03:35] <nit-wit> seclm193, failsafe is low graphics, I believe are you at the deaktop?
[03:35] <Fishscene> jo-erlend: I've been asking for the past 1.25 hours :P
[03:35] <nit-wit> *desktop
[03:35] <seclm193> nit-wit, well. i had ubuntu as the dominent system, so i'm on a fesh windows install now
[03:36] <nit-wit> seclm193, this is a wubi install right, and you got somewhere with thef ?ailsafe
[03:36] <nit-wit> *the failsafe?
[03:37] <JoeR1> So again I ask who feels like helping me with my configure issue?
[03:37] <faint545> does anyone know how to fix a partclone crc error?
[03:37] <seclm193> nit-wit, well, i got tired of having to go into the restore kernel and choose low-graphic mode.
[03:37] <Fishscene> JoeR1: What was the issue again?
[03:37] <jo-erlend> Fishscene, try to provide a little more information? "Fails" is a very poor description.
[03:38] <JoeR1> No package 'alsa' found
[03:38] <JoeR1> which is odd since I have about a billion freaking asla packages installed
[03:38] <jo-erlend> Fishscene, if it's because of invalid credentials or similar, then /var/log/auth.log might be helpful.
[03:38] <Fishscene> When I log in,the screen goes black to a full-screen terminal saying something about "spurious error" and then drops me immediately back to the login screen.
[03:38] <Fishscene> Let me grab that output
[03:39] <nit-wit> seclm193, you have to until you get the driver for the graphic card installed, my question is can you or have you gotten to the desktop with the failsafe or the nomodeset in the kernel line at the grub menu?   please be careful not to go tanmgental here .
[03:39] <nit-wit> *tangential
[03:39] <prezident> does anyone know how to fix that problem ?
[03:39] <Fishscene> jo-erland: http://pastebin.com/7SLM0uAY
[03:39] <jo-erlend> Fishscene, ok. Is this only for one user or does it happen with all users?
[03:39] <Fishscene> The username/password are correct.
[03:40] <nit-wit> prezident, I asked you a question did you miss it?
[03:40] <seclm193> nit-wit, nomodeset?
[03:40] <Fishscene> jo-erlend: all users. (there's only 2)
[03:40] <prezident> no i answered you Ubuntu 11.04
[03:40] <jo-erlend> Fishscene, are you using 11.04 and if so, have you tried using the classical ubuntu with no effects?
[03:41] <nit-wit> seclm193, nomodeset is a lowgraphics command added to the kernel line at the grub menu.
[03:41] <prezident> nit-wit ubuntu 11.04
[03:41] <nit-wit> seclm193, can you get to the dektop at all ?
[03:41] <faint545> can someone help me? i need to recover a partclone back up really badly but it keeps giving me a crc error... no errors occured when i was doing the backup
[03:41] <jo-erlend> Fishscene, it sounds like the login is fine but that there is something wrong with the window system.
[03:41] <Fishscene> jo-erlend: I'm using Ubuntu 11.04. I have 2 session choices "Default" and "Failsafe xterm". Both yield the same result
[03:41] <seclm193> nit-wit, in failsafe mode i found that i cannot set the resolution to what the monitor can do
[03:42] <tester_tomas> !edgy
[03:42] <tester_tomas> !eol
[03:42] <nit-wit> seclm193, that is because you need a driver for the card get to the desktop with the failsafe and run a update.
[03:42] <nit-wit> prezident, was thos a upgrade?
[03:43] <Fishscene> I'm trying to find the logfile that is storing the logs I'm seeing on the screen when it drops me to a terminal window. Something about "spurious response". Is there a way to search ALL the log files for that phrase?
[03:43] <jo-erlend> Fishscene, try asking on askubuntu.com. I haven't heard of anything like that before.
[03:43] <biglinux> g
[03:43] <Fishscene> ok. Thanks
[03:43] <nit-wit> prezident, that kernel is from like karmic and for more then 4 gigs ram.
[03:43] <witeshark> nit-wit: cd burning now
[03:43] <nit-wit> witeshark, cool
[03:43] <robin0800> Fishscene, you should have unity and classic options as well
[03:43] <prezident> and i have 4-gigs
[03:43] <seclm193> nit-wit, let me add this.  I found that i had trouble with this problem after installing virtualboxose.  can this be related?
[03:44] <Fishscene> robin0800: I'm unsure as this is on a PXE client. So those might not be in the ltsp image.
[03:44] <nit-wit> seclm193, well hard to say did yo9u install dkms?
[03:44] <chocolates> 11.04 good yet??
[03:44] <nit-wit> okay
[03:44] <prezident> nit-wit i have 4 gigs i don't think i should be stuck on this kernel 2.6.35-28-generic-pae
[03:44] <Fishscene> 11.04 = the best Ubuntu yet!
[03:44] <robin0800> Fishscene, is this a new install?
[03:45] <seclm193> nit-wit, what is dkms?
[03:45] <yokobr666> hi guys
[03:45] <nit-wit> prezident, did you upgrade to natty, when you do the pae kernels I doubt automatically upgrade to the next set.
[03:45] <Fishscene> robin0800: Not really. Although I've tried uninstalling/re-installing ltsp as well as rebuilding the image several times.
[03:45] <Ibyss> I did a fresh ubuntu (server) natty install remotely, how do I fix this? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=HVxxnLt1
[03:46] <robin0800> Fishscene, can you do ctl+alt+f1
[03:46] <todd_> how to filter this list?
[03:46] <nit-wit> seclm193, dkms is what allows kenerl updates that don't make you reinstall the guest extras for Vbox amongst a few other thngs
[03:46] <prezident> nit-wit i have ubuntu 11.04(natty) and then i upgrade the kernel but when i log in it freezes..
[03:46] <Fishscene> robin0800: Yes.
[03:46] <Ibyss> Lol @ nit-wit.
[03:46] <Fishscene> I'm seeing those Spurious responses...
[03:46] <witeshark> nit-wit: i suppose i may as well install from the CD after  verifying by booting
[03:47] <seclm193> nit-wit, all i did was open the software center, search for virtualbox, and install
[03:47] <Fishscene> There seems to be a new entry every few seconds
[03:47] <robin0800> Fishscene, can you log in and have internet connection
[03:47] <prezident>  nit-wit i have ubuntu 11.04(natty) and when i upgraded the kernel and try to log in it freezes at start up
[03:47] <nit-wit> seclm193, you always want to install dkms with Vbox.
[03:47] <Fishscene> I can not log in. It says login incorrect.. I'm perplexed
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[03:48] <Fishscene> robin0800: It seems I am unable to log in- despite the fact that I'm typing in my username/password correctly. It says the login is incorrect.
[03:48] <seclm193> nit-wit, so that could be the cause of why it kept freezing after i installed vbox?
[03:48] <Ibyss> O_________________O Wow
[03:49] <nit-wit> prezident, all I noticed is that the kernel is or seems to be an older on, but I'm  not familiar with the pae's.
[03:49] <nit-wit> seclm193, doubt it.
[03:50] <nit-wit> seclm193, I hate to just guess here.
[03:50] <robin0800> Fishscene, if you reboot and hold shift you should get the grub menu if you do choose recovery
[03:50] <prezident> nit-wit i think generic-pae is kernels that work with 4gigs or more i just can't figure out why and update kernel can't boot
[03:50] <seclm193> nit-wit, man.  i really wish i could find the problem.  i love linux compared to windows
[03:50] <todd_> i guess my only solution is to reinstall
[03:50] <Fishscene> robin0800: I'm going to try rebuilding my ltsp image. I'll try what you asked after it finishes building.
[03:51] <witeshark> nit-wit: burn complete
[03:51] <nit-wit> prezident, sometime they don't the one before does right?
[03:51] <prezident> no the one i am running is a much older one
[03:51] <nit-wit> witeshark, you just going to install?
[03:51] <appi_uppi> Hi, I'm getting "ssh: connect to host srinivasakp.dyndns-web.com port 22: Connection timed out"
[03:51] <appi_uppi> how could i fix that
[03:52] <witeshark> nit-wit: after it boots okay, why mess around for days when i can just install?
[03:52] <nit-wit> prezident, to be honest kernels and there problems are out of my pay range, I'm not much help there.
[03:52] <nit-wit> witeshark, thats my motto. ;)
[03:52] <witeshark> :)
[03:53] <prezident> lol cool thanks nit-wit what do you work with in ubuntu ?
[03:53] <nit-wit> witeshark, I install and clone, that it is easy to just reload it if needed.
[03:53] <Ibyss> Does anyone get locale errors with ubuntu server, natty by any chance?
[03:53] <witeshark> nit-wit: neat :)
[03:53] <nit-wit> prezident, not sure I understand?
[03:53] <prezident> nit-wit i was asking you what do you do?
[03:54] <seclm193> nit-wit, if i do a fresh ubuntu install, what would you suggest i do with the graphic driver?
[03:54] <nit-wit> prezident, where?
[03:54] <theadmin> prezident: Most people here are not a part of Ubuntu team, and are just volunteers.
[03:54] <theadmin> nit-wit: she/he was wondering whether you work for Canonical afaiu
[03:55] <nit-wit> theadmin, I see I was invited to apply for membership but was  not really interested.
[03:55] <theadmin> nit-wit: Neat.
[03:55] <nit-wit> seclm193, it seems like a graphic card problem, just a guess on my part.
[03:56] <nit-wit> theadmin, I started on open source 4 years ago dapper was the name and never looked back I like it.
[03:56] <todd_> who is Ubuntu team?
[03:57] <theadmin> nit-wit: Well, I'm not a fan of Ubuntu myself
[03:57] <theadmin> todd_: You can google "Canonical". They are never here, I think.
[03:57] <nit-wit> theadmin, it has its up and downs lately i was using W7, and a slew of other open source.
[03:57] <Lasers> !ubuntu | todd_
[03:57] <seclm193> nit-wit, i was thinking the same problem, just not sure if the new kernel has something to do with it.
[03:58] <Lasers> todd_: You see? We're the team! (large community) :)
[03:58] <theadmin> nit-wit: Mind if I pm?
[03:58] <nit-wit> seclm193, were you able to boot the live cd staraight to the desktop
[03:58] <nit-wit> theadmin, no problem
[03:59] <robin0800> seclm193, there is no options to install any extra drives during an install as far as I know
[03:59] <shane2peru1> ok, where does FF5 now put flash videos?  used to be in /tmp, now they aren't there
[03:59] <todd_> i have been trying to get my panels back with no luck
[04:00] <Lasers> !resetpanels | todd_
[04:00] <seclm193> nit-wit, i can.
[04:00] <seclm193> robin0800, yourcorrect.
[04:01] <seclm193> nit-wit, also note that when it freezes, i cannot do anything. i cannot even move the mouse
[04:02] <nit-wit> seclm193, when you install sometimes the graphic drivers don't load, so you get in with a lowgrphic boot to get them.
[04:02] <Phibs> anyone know of an IpV6 enabled copy of ubuntu-security?
[04:02] <robin0800> seclm193, so in answer to your question is there is nothing you can do with the graphic driver
[04:02] <seclm193> nit-wit, but i can use the system for a couple of days before it starts freezing
[04:06] <seclm193> robin0800, it just happens suddenly.  i use the install for a couple of days, then freeze when xorg loads
[04:06] <S4nD3r> how solve it ? Valid eCryptfs headers not found in file header region or xattr region
[04:06] <witeshark> nit-wit: it offers to install alongside the corrupt 11.04 or over write - deleting nearly everything... what would you do? i have my home folder rsynced
[04:07] <robin0800> seclm193, thats from a fresh install?
[04:08] <rabbit1> no virtualbox for 9.10 ?
[04:09] <nit-wit> witeshark, if you have home backed up I would overwrite it and just put back your, docs, video,music,, but not resyncit back.
[04:10] <rabbit1> guys, help ... no virtualbox for 9.10 ?
[04:10] <Lasers> !9.10
[04:10] <JoeR1> I need help with libgtkhtml2-dev
[04:11] <witeshark> nit-wit: sounds like a plan much cleaner than picking around like last year's Thanksgiving dinner scraps over the next few months
[04:11] <buzzomatic> Hi guys. I've just been handled a new Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS server which I'm supposed to setup as a web server, but for some reason I can't install any software. Whenever I use apt, I get errors like this: http://pastie.org/2307268
[04:12] <nit-wit> witeshark, cool.
[04:12] <buzzomatic> Can anyone give me a clue as to what might be wrong?
[04:12] <JoeR1> I need help with a failed install of libgtkhtml2-dev
[04:15] <seclm193> robin0800, well, fresh install and updated.  i always try to keep everything updated.
[04:16] <cordoval> anyone is a master of xpath selectors here?
[04:16] <seclm193> robin0800, you think an update couldv'e broken something
[04:16] <cordoval> I need to find out if this https://github.com/Behat/Mink/blob/master/src/Behat/Mink/Selector/NamedSelector.php#L25
[04:16] <cordoval> will match a field with disabled="disabled"
[04:16] <cordoval> or how to modify the line 25 above to make it match a disabled="disabled"?
[04:16] <FloodBot1> cordoval: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:17] <robin0800> seclm193, 2 days seems like a timer thing something that happens every 48hrs?
[04:17] <rafaelpolanco> good evening
[04:18] <rafaelpolanco> somebody try to use magicjack in ubunto without VB
[04:18] <seclm193> robin0800, like i told nit-wit, i did install virtualbox from ubuntu software center before it happened.
[04:18] <Joeman1> buzzomatic,  only reference I found to your error is in this forum post. Last post looks like a fix. Hope this helps! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1774502
[04:18] <dr_willis> rafaelpolanco:  it wont work in wine last i looked
[04:19] <dr_willis> !appdb | rafaelpolanco
[04:19] <rafaelpolanco> no because that use some drivers
[04:19] <JayPro> how can you tell if you have hardware-based raid or firmware/driver-based raid??
[04:19] <rafaelpolanco> ok thanks
[04:19] <JayPro> ...motherboard, that is
[04:19] <buzzomatic> Joeman1: thanks, will have a look
[04:20] <robin0800> seclm193, clearly updates and application additions can break the system but in a random way not on a regular basis
[04:21] <seclm193>  robin0800, it is sort of random.  it just takes a few days.  on one install it did it the same day i installed it
[04:21] <Guest20971> where should i go for general help with ubuntu, for relative noobs?
[04:21] <vuth> hey sergio
[04:22] <todd_> had to reboot
[04:22] <dr_willis> Guest20971:  depends on the help you can allways start here
[04:22] <todd_> keyboard stopped working after the command type at terminal
[04:22] <dibyam> hello, i have unbuntu 10.10 installed on my lenovo z569 laptop..i am not able to hear any sound when i connect my headfones..can anybody ples help
[04:22] <vuth> sergio was i in the wrong room for help questions?
[04:23] <rabbit1> got installed 10.04, it created a ubuntu live CD on harddisk, how do i remove it from the boot ?
[04:24] <dr_willis>  rabbit1  how did you install it?
[04:25] <robin0800> seclm193, virtualbox does steal some of the computer resources so if your computer only just runs ubuntu this addition could break it
[04:25] <Guest20971> dr_willis: ok, i'm trying to do this install thing from the guide here: http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/08/howto-completely-transparent-shell-on.html
[04:26] <seclm193> robin0800, so running virtualbox in ubuntu is not really the best way?
[04:26] <todd_> the command ubotto gave removed my title bars and killed my keyboard
[04:26] <Guest20971> dr_willis: i followed the directions until the end, when it directs you to open a new terminal under the new user
[04:26] <rabbit1> dr_willis: First install XP on 50 GB NTFS, then inserted a CD done from .iso, but it wasn't booting from CD, so it gave me an option to create a virtual disk (may be) then install, not i get 2 boot option and when i select Win XP i get 2 more boot option 1. XP and 2. ubuntu (live CD) one..... now how do i remove this?
[04:26] <dibyam> no sound being played when i connect headfones
[04:26] <knoppix> hello
[04:26] <nigma> yo
[04:26] <dr_willis> Guest20971:  shall i point out that guide is 4 yrs old.  and may be really outdated
[04:26] <nigma> hehe
[04:26] <nigma> yeah
[04:27] <robin0800> seclm193, its ok as long as you have the resources to run it
[04:27] <Guest20971> it's mirrored on ubuntu's forums
[04:27] <nigma> type /help
[04:27] <dr_willis> its still old...
[04:27] <rabbit1> dr_willis: First install XP on 50 GB NTFS, then inserted a CD done from .iso, but it wasn't booting from CD, so it gave me an option to create a virtual disk (may be) then install, now i get 2 boot option and when i select Win XP i get 2 more boot option 1. XP and 2. ubuntu (live CD) one..... now how do i remove this?
[04:27] <seclm193> robin0800, running laptop with AMD C-50 processor, 6 gigs ram, and a Radeon HD 6250
[04:28] <Guest20971> dr_willis: ok, what do i do then?
[04:28] <seclm193> was running windows 7 32bit in virtualbox
[04:28] <dr_willis> Guest20971:  you never said what was not working that i saw..
[04:28] <kush> man, harrison ford is losing it on conan
[04:29] <Guest20971> dr_willis: oh sorry. the problem is that when i started a new gnome-terminal under the new user, it opened a new window but it didn't have any of the characteristics from compiz
[04:29] <yokobr666> plz, guys, how do i redo apache configs?
[04:29] <dr_willis> Guest20971:  you may want to select a better nick also. /nick pickanick
[04:30] <dibyam> how to enable headfones i ubuntu 10.10?
[04:30] <seclm193> robin0800, let me add that i had the same problem with linux mint 11
[04:30] <vuth> i am from mint 11
[04:31] <lukeccby> ahoy
[04:31] <fasttab> dr_willis: it occurred to me that restarting compiz might be the answer, so i did 'compiz --replace' and that crashed my desktop
[04:31] <fasttab> dr_willis: i managed to log out and back in, and everything's back to default
[04:31] <dr_willis> fasttab:  so your end goal is á transparent terminal?
[04:31] <fasttab> dr_willis: oui
[04:31] <vuth> what are u guys using for managing your softwares on ubuntu 11?
[04:32] <fasttab> dr_willis: also general learning to navigate ubuntu...
[04:32] <dr_willis> fasttab:  compiz can set transparancy on a per window basis
[04:32] <dr_willis> !ccsm
[04:33] <fasttab> ubottu: i have ccsm installed
[04:33] <vuth> bots dont have a soul
[04:33] <dr_willis>  theres some plugin you set where you use the wheel to change s windows transparancy on the fly.
[04:34] <robin0800> !soul
[04:35] <fasttab> dr_willis: ok, clarification. my end goal is not to have a transparent terminal, it's more to make my background an unkillable terminal
[04:35] <dr_willis> fasttab:  that guide seems straight forward. im nit sure what you meanby a new user
[04:35] <rabbit1> dr_willis: u there?
[04:36] <cappicard> jeez... freenode's ipv6 servers are flaky
[04:36] <dr_willis> rabbit1:  yes.
[04:36] <fasttab> dr_willis: a new terminal profile
[04:36] <rabbit1> dr_willis: read my previous msg?
[04:37] <fasttab> dr_willis: at the end of the guide it says open a new terminal window with the profile as the new terminal profile. i do that, but it doesn't open following the rules i've created with ccsm
[04:38] <rabbit1> dr_willis: you got a solution for this friend... ?
[04:38] <dr_willis> fasttab:  you make a new profile. then use it.. could be simthing has changed in gnome or compiz over the years theguide been out.
[04:39] <Mintal> hiya
[04:40] <dr_willis> rabbit1:  ive never seen a feature on a ubuntu cd to do a livecd install to the hd. wubi can do an install inside windiws but its not a livecd setuo
[04:40] <todd_> holy crap, my panels just appeared!
[04:40] <fasttab> dr_willis: right, i have made a new profile and open a terminal window under the new profile. it has the settings i've set in the terminal profile, but not the settings i've set in ccs
[04:40] <fasttab> m
[04:40] <dr_willis> fasttab:  i cant try the guide right now. so cant verify if it can work or not
[04:41] <fasttab> dr_willis: can you direct me to other help?
[04:41] <dr_willis> fasttab:  ive found the ccsm window rules plugin to be flakey in the past
[04:41] <dr_willis> theres #compiz
[04:42] <fasttab> dr_willis: ok, thanks. quick question, should i need to restart compiz for the changes to take effect? if i do have to restart, it requires a bunch more work because i have to figure out why it's crashing
[04:43] <dr_willis> no restart should be needed.
[04:43] <dr_willis> i bet thw title is wrong. ir getting changed somwhow
[04:44] <fasttab> ?
[04:46] <uRock> Does anyone have an example on how to use the split command how to break up an ISO into 2GB chunks?
[04:49] <eycel> "/usr/bin/split"
[04:50] <theadmin> uRock: split -b 2G file.iso
[04:50] <dr_willis> fasttab:  my terminals can change their titles depending o the app running in them. that would most likely break that trans setup.
[04:51] <uRock> thanks theadmin, will it ask what file name to create or do it automatically?
[04:51] <dr_willis> fasttab:  use some pulldown terminal app like guake. much easier then a root window terminal
[04:51] <theadmin> uRock: It will create files automatically, will call them "xaa", "xab", etc.
[04:52] <fasttab> dr_willis: thanks, but there's an option under terminal profile that says keep the original title and i have that set
[04:52] <fasttab> dr_willis: i don't know what guake is?
[04:52] <uRock> cool thanx theadmin
[04:57] <dr_willis> !info guake
[04:58] <rabbit1> dr_willis: yeah, right. it's not a livecd. wubi only, but now how can i remove that boot option ?
[04:59] <dr_willis> rabbit1:  uninstall the wubi installed  ubutu setup
[04:59] <rabbit1> dr_willis: ok, thank you
[04:59] <dr_willis> i dont use wubi at all. it should remove then entry when it gets uninstalled
[05:00] <dr_willis> wubi is icky. ;)
[05:02] <witeshark> dr_willis: so you're back
[05:02] <dr_willis> im in and out all day.
[05:03] <dr_willis> may have to leave aat any time
[05:05] <ck_> ck
[05:05] <ck_> #wordtracker
[05:05] <witeshark> dr_willis: well i fixed with a new install by CD iso
[05:05] <lapaga> it is not that important but thought I would ask...when watching an avi or such in parole or vlc the sound sort of disappears after a while unless I change it in the top panel thingy (xubuntu 11.04).
[05:06] <dr_willis> 'sort of' as in mutes? chage what in what thinggie? ;)
[05:07] <dr_willis> vlc works for me with no issues in my huge video collection.
[05:07] <Blade20> i love descriptive questions
[05:07] <lapaga> dr_willis: yes to mute and thinggie is the indicator  on the top panel
[05:08] <dr_willis> play 20 questions to get to the real question
[05:08] <Blade20> thinggie is the technical term i see
[05:08] <dr_willis> so sound is auto muteing after some set time? always the same time?
[05:08] <nit-wit> dr_willis, welcome to the matrix. ;)
[05:08] <Pingu> hello
[05:09] <faint545> is anyone familiar with clonezilla?
[05:09] <Pingu> I need some quick help with Samba on Lucid
[05:09] <nit-wit> faint545, somewhat
[05:09] <dr_willis> !ask
[05:10] <faint545> nit-wit, would u happen to know if its possible to skip CRC errors ?
[05:10] <Blade20> Pingu, what do you need to do with samba
[05:10] <dr_willis> more playing 20 questions to get to the real question
[05:10] <lapaga> dr_willis: no it is not a set time but it does always happen and by the way to others it was stated exactly as it happens ..just not positive what the sound indicator  icon to change the volume is called
[05:11] <dr_willis> lapaga:  'volume applet' i guess. ;)
[05:12] <Blade20> lapaga, if you click on it ... that would open it ... then you could tell what it is... try to right click... it should have a name
[05:13] <dr_willis> sound volume changine durig a movie. seems odd. also vlc would not chage the system volume. it has its own volume settings
[05:13] <Blade20> dr_willis, it could be a problem with the movie it's self...
[05:14] <Pingu> OK: I have installed Samba on Lucid Desktop. I have a hard disk mounted as vfat set to 0777 and gid 46 (plugdev). no matter what I do, the share shows up as read-only at the WinXP client machines. I tried using the gnome-settings-samba and editing the samba.conf. The used to be on a Win2K domain and now I have moved the to a WorkGroup with the same name.
[05:14] <lapaga> Blade20: right click does not give me a name or I would have mentioned it...I am guessing that it is either alsa or pulseaudio settings
[05:14] <dr_willis> Blade20:  it was said it does not happen at the same place. and it affects all movies..
[05:15] <nit-wit> faint545, whats the actual error.
[05:15] <lapaga> it is just going along with no problems and then all of a sudden there is no sound until I change the slider on the indicator and then it is back to being fine
[05:16] <lion42> I've been having issues with vlc audio as well, something which hasn't happened with earlier versions of ubuntu and persumably earlier versions of vlc
[05:16] <lion42> I just switched to a different player.
[05:16] <Blade20> Pingu, from the sounds of it you have made a few changes that may conflict ... if using the GUI delete all the settings you have ans start again ... work in small steps... using the GUI you really do not have many options ... just change one at a time to get the affect you are looking for
[05:16] <faint545> nit-wit, "read CRC error: No such file or directory, please check your image file."
[05:17] <faint545> nit-wit, that error was actually from PARTCLONE when I tried to restore the image
[05:18] <faint545> nit-wit, CloneZilla just gave me a CRC error.
[05:18] <Blade20> dr_willis, i understand that but i do not know of anything that could be doing that .... not software anyway... other than maybe a conflict of 2 programs running at the same time... controlling the same thing... not even sure if that could be it...
[05:18] <lapaga> dr_willis: Blade20 : like I said it is no big deal just curious as to why it happens and if there was some simple way to correct it
[05:18] <snarkster> how do you compile a kernel on a machine that wont run linux
[05:18] <nit-wit> faint545, are you sure the source is mounting?
[05:19] <Blade20> lapaga, are you running Jack.... and if you are have you made any changes to Jack...
[05:19] <faint545> nit-wit, what do u mean?
[05:19] <Pingu> Blade20: can you please be more specific? I have no problem with the CLI. Can you tell me what to write in the file for the share?
[05:19] <lapaga> Blade20: no idea what jack is:)
[05:20] <snarkster> hi this may be OT. how do you compile a kernel on a machine when linux doesnt run on it?
[05:20] <theadmin> snarkster: Cygwin, maybe, but I don't suggest you.
[05:20] <theadmin> snarkster: Or maybe a virtual machine with Linux
[05:20] <snarkster> um
[05:21] <nit-wit> faint545, when you use clonezilla you have it read the backup, it may be showing it, to choose it but not reading it, I have seen this when the partition I am installing back to is smaller then the origib=nal saved, for one example.
[05:21] <wols_> you will need a crosscompiler. cygwin isn't suitable for that (unless you create your toolchain for cygwin)
[05:21] <snarkster> i have a c3 processor.. linux fails to run
[05:21] <wols_> but a VM is easier
[05:21] <Blade20> Pingu, samba has a GUI that you can install that makes life easy ...
[05:21] <lapaga> snarkster: are you trying to get something to work so that is why you think you have to compile the kernel?
[05:21] <snarkster> ubuntu locks up when i try to boot it
[05:21] <snarkster> it wont even boot from live cd
[05:21] <wols_> snarkster: certain distros will fail since they need a newer CPU. possibly ubuntu among them. compiling a new kernel won't help there
[05:22] <Blade20> lapaga, Jack audio... a fun mess to play with... and to tell the truth i dont mess with it... cuz i dont know Jack lol
[05:22] <wols_> snarkster: try debian
[05:22] <wols_> or a distro made for older PCs like DSL or puppy
[05:22] <lapaga> Blade20: :) well I would put myself in that catagory
[05:23] <faint545> nit-wit, the disk i am restoring to is the same size as i started out with.
[05:23] <snarkster> right well that wont help me very much since Im trying to make a machine to run hulu desktop for my back bedroom tv
[05:23] <Blade20> wols_, arch is a light weight distro also if i understand it correctly
[05:24] <Blade20> lapaga, that is about the only one that i can think of that would change volume like that... what file format are the movies you are finding this problem with... and is it only movies?
[05:24] <nit-wit> faint545, really you might try the #clonezilla channel for expert help I can only really guess.
[05:24] <faint545> nit-wit, that channel is like a desert..
[05:25] <nit-wit> faint545, 8 users I guess so.
[05:25] <lapaga> Blade20: they are avi...wmv...mpg...etc
[05:25] <faint545> nit-wit, yeah and no one will answer my question
[05:25] <Blade20> lapaga, and no matter the file format you are still having this problem?
[05:26] <city2008> hello every here
[05:26] <dr_willis> sounds almost like a screensaver or aome tool kicking i
[05:26] <dr_willis> in
[05:26] <Mintal> hiyall
[05:26] <Blade20> lapaga, have you tried a different player such as Gnome Mplayer
[05:26] <lapaga> Blade20: yes...it is running fine...sound stops...I change the indicator volume all the way up and then back down and it works fine
[05:26] <Pingu> thanks
[05:27] <Blade20> dr_willis, may have a good point there lapaga have you tried to change your screen saver settings ...
[05:27] <Mintal> so you have been able to trick 1 million users into using ubuntu ?
[05:27] <lapaga> Blade20: dr_willis : screensaver is turned off
[05:28] <Blade20> lapaga, how about power management ?
[05:28] <lapaga> Blade20: that is turned off too
[05:28] <JoeR1> is anyone awake to offer help?
[05:28] <Blade20> lapaga, have you tried out other players...
[05:29] <Blade20> JoeR1, no
[05:29] <JoeR1> haha, obviously
[05:29] <nit-wit> faint545, one of the things I do with clonezilla image is I make them on one HD then I have a backup of that HD and that has worked if the first clone balks the second works not sure why though.
[05:29] <Blade20> JoeR1, lol
[05:29] <dr_willis> or other window manager/desktops
[05:29] <lapaga> Blade20: no have only tried vlc and parole
[05:29] <JoeR1> I have been having trouble with installing libgtkhtml2-dev
[05:29] <Blade20> lapaga, give Gnome MPlayer a try...
[05:29] <JoeR1> I hate mplayer
[05:29] <lapaga> Blade20: is that a cli?
[05:30] <faint545> nit-wit, have u had any issues with using the default settings in clonezilla when backing up a NTFS partition?
[05:30] <wols_> lapaga: it has the word "gnome" in it...
[05:30] <lapaga> wols_: true:)
[05:30] <ror> hi, since my last update, ubuntu has turned... ugly. It's hard to explain: borders are different mostly I think
[05:30] <JoeR1> I need with installing libgtkhtml2-dev
[05:30] <wols_> ror: no worries. we call that "Unity" ;)
[05:31] <JoeR1> I need help* with installing libgtkhtml2-dev
[05:31] <ror> wols_, no, I'm running classic
[05:31] <ror> this is just since the last update in the last week or so, it's baffling really
[05:31] <wols_> JoeR1: you need more help with writing english and to ask properly for help on irc me thinks...
[05:31] <lapaga> is it called mplayer or gnome-mplayer?
[05:31] <wols_> !info gnome-mplayer
[05:31] <ror> fonts seem different too; the fonts seem better but the borders and menus seem really ugly, and some icons have changed
[05:32] <wols_> lapaga: alternatively: smplayer
[05:32] <JoeR1> oh yeah me be stupid wols, I'm sorry that it is 12:31 here and I am tired but please do feel free to denigrate people for typos in the future because that is an effective way to make them feel welcome.
[05:32] <ror> Everything looks more "linuxy" though, it's like I've been transported back to my slackware days :O
[05:33] <Blade20> JoeR1, relax he was just poking fun... hard to get that across in text ...
[05:33] <wols_> JoeR1: less whine, more constructive ask for help.... You _still_ haven't told us what your problem is, if you go on like this I doubt you ever get it solved. but feel free
[05:34] <Blade20> JoeR1, wols_  is really a great one to ask for help...
[05:34] <wols_> ror: anti aliasing maybe? borders are a windowmanager thing (or theme) only
[05:34] <Blade20> ror, do you have compiz installed ...
[05:34] <TA5K> ror:  how about a screenshot?
[05:34] <ror> Blade20, yes; I can't see anything obviously missing from ccsm though
[05:35] <wols_> Blade20: ubuntu classic should be metacity, no?
[05:35] <JoeR1> thats wonderful, I don't know how else to explain it - libgtkhtml2-dev will not install, it does not appear to be recognized by apt-get
[05:35] <dr_willis> !info libgtkhtml2
[05:35] <Blade20> wols_, yes but still falls under the compiz fusion as far as i know
[05:35] <lapaga> wols_: Blade20 : dr_willis well will give it a try...think I am filling my Xubuntu install with a bunch of Ubuntu things but oh well
[05:35] <TA5K> joe75: maybe purge your last installed ppa?
[05:36] <JoeR1> can I get numbers instead of names, I don't follow the ignorant animal naming system
[05:36] <wols_> lapaga: use smplayer. that's very lightweight. no gnome, at most gtk
[05:36] <dr_willis> !find libgtkhtml
[05:36] <Blade20> JoeR1, it is not an official pkg anymore
[05:36] <dr_willis> numbers are just date of release i the version
[05:37] <JoeR1> and I take it libgtkhtml 3 and some change that I found in the package manager is not compatible?
[05:37] <Blade20> JoeR1, can you go into a bit more detail on what you need it for?
[05:37] <TA5K> any UI designers here?
[05:37] <JoeR1> gyachi
[05:37] <Mintal> no
[05:37] <TA5K> sad
[05:37] <bazhang> TA5K, whats the question
[05:37] <ror> http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6135/6001056558_2ce201e40d_o.png
[05:37] <GirlyGirl> TA5K: yes
[05:37] <r3x> nick gr33n_c0d3
[05:37] <bazhang> JoeR1, there are ppa for gyache
[05:37] <Blade20> Mintal, ... sigh
[05:38] <Mintal> Blade20:
[05:38] <TA5K> bazhang: I just want to know how easy it is to join the team and if there is any need?
[05:38] <JoeR1> bazhang, the ppa for gyachi did not work
[05:38] <JoeR1> Xubuntu rejected it
[05:38] <Mintal> why did you adress me?
[05:38] <wols_> JoeR1: rejected how?
[05:38] <iszak> I've got a server running 10.10 right, and for some reason I have high load averages, upon inspecting top only md0_resync and md0_raid1 have noticable CPU loads with ~10% for the first and ~4% for the later. Any suggestions?
[05:38] <JoeR1> it said it was invalid
[05:38] <bazhang> JoeR1, exact error messages please
[05:39] <dr_willis> !info gyachi
[05:39] <TA5K> and btw is the UI in the next release also tested against dark skins and light fonts?
[05:39] <JoeR1> no, I'm am not using the ppa because i have spent two hours resolving dependencies and I intent to see it through
[05:39] <wols_> dr_willis: a 2007 yahoo client. very doubtful if it even works with yahoo.com
[05:39] <Blade20> JoeR1, the more detail you can give the more affective people can be in helping fix the problem
[05:39] <JoeR1> the ppa failed I moved on
[05:39] <bazhang> TA5K, next version discussing in #ubuntu+1 please
[05:40] <wols_> JoeR1: that gtkhtml lib does not exist anymore. it's an EX-lib. unless you want to manually downgrade your whole gnome installation, it's not gonna happen
[05:40] <TA5K> bazhang: oh we have a special channel for that? oki, I'll go there, thank ,)
[05:40] <JoeR1> and the version 3 in the repositories is not backwards compatible?
[05:41] <dr_willis> some apps can require specific versions yes.
[05:42] <sw0rdfish> how to check what my friend is doing? I gave him ssh access to do something for me in my vps?
[05:42] <Herakles> Hello, how do i restore the default Desktop (or default theme) in Ubuntu 11.04 ?
[05:42] <dr_willis> major version #'s changes are often incompat.
[05:42] <Blade20> JoeR1, is that the only program... why can you not use another that does the same thing....
[05:43] <Herakles> a Command like #pkill gnome-panel would be nice... ( using Unity-Desktop)
[05:43] <JoeR1> gyachi is the only one I ave read about that supports yahoo voice
[05:43] <Blade20> Herakles, are you wanting to get away from unity?
[05:43] <dr_willis> Herakles:  unity --reset
[05:43] <Herakles> no..
[05:43] <dr_willis> Herakles:  unity --reset-icons
[05:44] <Herakles> hmm... sound good , Mr dr_willis.... moment please
[05:44] <dr_willis> compiz has its own reset command
[05:44] <str8> compiz sucks, fvwm-crystal all the way
[05:44] <dr_willis> see webupd8 blog site for where i got them from..
[05:44] <Blade20> i did not know compiz even worked with unity... lol
[05:45] <dr_willis> unity is the panel/shell... compiz is thw wm
[05:45] <goodtime> yes it does
[05:45] <Blade20> i want to check out Gnome 3 but im a chicken
[05:45] <Blade20> lol
[05:46] <Mintal> Blade20: ?
[05:46] <Blade20> Mintal, ??
[05:47] <theadmin> Blade20: Gnome3 isn't worth a try, honestly, nonsensical and buggy
[05:48] <ror> hmm, updating again and restarting again seemed to fix my appearance issues
[05:48] <ror> thanks anyway guys :)
[05:48] <Blade20> theadmin, see i guess it's not such a bad thing to be a chicken then right? lol
[05:48] <Blade20> ror,  glad it worked out :)
[05:48] <theadmin> Blade20: lol.
[05:48] <goodtime> yah
[05:48] <theadmin> bazhang: Wow, taking much bans off today
[05:48] <goodtime> lol
[05:49]  * goodtime is listening to KMFDM [ Adios ] - 10. Bereit [Audacious]
[05:49] <rww> goodtime: we don't care
[05:49] <bazhang> goodtime, turn that off
[05:49] <goodtime> im so high
[05:49] <str8> anyone ever get /dev/tcp working on ubuntu?
[05:49] <Blade20> wow
[05:49] <iszak> what does "pcnt" stand for in the "perf top" command?
[05:49] <bazhang> !ot > goodtime
[05:49] <goodtime> rww: ok
[05:50]  * theadmin thinks that reading IRC guidelines is the first thing to do when you join here, no? goodtime 
[05:50] <goodtime> ty ubottu
[05:50] <str8> is that a negatory
[05:50] <goodtime> peace out
[05:50] <goodtime> ok
[05:50] <goodtime> sorry
[05:50] <str8> anyone?
[05:51] <Blade20> str8, give it time... if anyone can answer they will...
[05:51] <dr_willis> Herakles:  tell the channel the whole issue.
[05:51] <wols_> dr_willis: easy: "Hera is mean to me!" :)
[05:52] <wols_> well, Juno, but that's the same thing/woman
[05:52] <supercom32> Is Ext4 safer to use overall than Ext3 for data loss now? Or is ext3 still better?
[05:52] <bittin`> http://data.fuskbugg.se/skalman02/4e378ce538d77_2011-08-02-073603_1280x960_scrot.png
[05:53] <theadmin> supercom32: ext4 is safe.
[05:53] <theadmin> bittin`: Wrong channel.
[05:53] <Herakles> I changed background in nautilus and it came to happen that other Systemcomponents have been affected, such like the upper Panel (incl. the Indicater-applets)
[05:53] <MrSalt> I just changed my home partition to btrfs.  I'm hoping it's a stable as I think I've been reading.
[05:54] <Herakles> but i like the Unity-Desktop...
[05:54] <supercom32> theadmin: So there is absolutly no reason to use ext3 anymore for really any reason?
[05:54] <theadmin> supercom32: Old kernel/bootloader support.
[05:54] <dr_willis> i have a nas or 2 that cant do ext4
[05:54] <wols_> supercom32: compatibility. ext3 exists longer and other products/OSes support it better
[05:55] <wols_> e.g stuff like partition imagers, resizers, MS windows, etc
[05:55] <Herakles> the upper Panel is now in a kind of old school-theme.. doesn´t looks nice ....
[05:55] <supercom32> But in terms of data loss due to unforseen hardware/software/power issues ext4 has more safe-guards than ext3 right?
[05:56] <str8> its harder to recover
[05:56] <str8> /dev/tcp anyone?
[05:57] <wols_> supercom32: only safeguard I can see is the Journal checksumming, while the delayed allocation seems to increase risk of data loss. see thw wikipedia page for ext4
[05:57] <sancas> what can i use for record my screen?
[05:58] <bazhang> !screencast | sancas
[05:58] <sancas> thanks
[05:58] <supercom32> wols_: Thats my worry. Is the risk of apps not using fsync worse or better than gaining journal checksumming? :P
[05:59] <wols_> supercom32: imho it's a wash. main reason for ext4 is improved performance which is negligible too actually. hardware has a much bigger impact on speeds
[05:59] <Tom^> and ext4 has discard for ssd's
[06:00] <Tom^> aka trim
[06:00] <wols_> Tom^: that's a very good reason for ext4, yes
[06:00] <supercom32> wols_: So for data reliability (Yes, I know have 2 backups), ext3 > ext4 since there is no question regarding poorly writen apps?
[06:01] <Kartagis> hi
[06:01] <Tom^> tbh speaking about data loss with ext4 is a bit overkill
[06:01] <m1h0> gi
[06:01] <m1h0> *hi
[06:01] <wols_> supercom32: the fact that all kinds of repair and imaging tools support ext3 a lot better is more important than any new features imho.the poorly written apps or the checksumming are bot irrelevant compared to that. if you want to be safe, you always got to be conservative
[06:02] <Tom^> you will rather see hard drive failure then data loss where a ext3 would have saved you
[06:02] <MrSalt> Isn't more redundency and checksumming to reason for btrfs?
[06:02] <Tom^> does btrfs have fsck yet?
[06:03] <supercom32> wols_: Thats a really good point.
[06:03] <MrSalt> A basic one, yes
[06:04] <sancas> how can i connect to wireless with wpa secure
[06:05] <MrSalt> Tom^: Looking for the reference, but not finding it.  It's within the last month or so.
[06:05] <supercom32> Ok, thanks everyone! I think Ext3 is the way to go for me. I won't worry about fsync or checksuming since those seem to be rather neglegible.
[06:05] <supercom32> Software support seems to be the only big issue.
[06:05] <Tom^> MrSalt ok
[06:06] <Herakles> How do i disable the GUI by a Keyboard-Keybinding ?
[06:06] <wols_> sancas: usually via network-manager. but there are other ways too. first you have to make sure your wlan card actually works tho
[06:06] <wols_> !wifi | sancas
[06:06] <theadmin> Herakles: You can restart X with Alt+Prtsc+K, or go to a TTY with Ctrl+Alt+F2.
[06:06] <MrSalt> Tom^: I've been reading other forums and they were big on btrfs for reliability.  I've got backups, but still.  It's a big addition to kernel 3.0
[06:07] <Blade20> wols_, what is the wrapper that lets you use windows drivers for wireless?
[06:07] <wols_> MrSalt: Tom^ is right, before they have a more than just basic fsck and have some experience in the real world, their reliability is zero or even negative
[06:07] <wols_> Blade20: ndiswrapper. don't use it. the chances that you actually need it is very very very small
[06:08] <sancas> thanks
[06:08] <wols_> Blade20: wlan support has improved over the years
[06:08] <Blade20> wols_, ahh ok... thank you :)
[06:08] <MrSalt> wols_: Understood.  I'm giving it a spin anyway.  :)
[06:09] <rabbit1> unable to get full screen in virtualbox, any suggestion?
[06:09] <wols_> MrSalt: that's fine. trying it out is great, only way to get the real world experience, both for you and the FS programmers. but my point still stands :)
[06:09] <kcm1700> My wheel mouse is scrolling horizontally. Is it a feature ? how to use it?
[06:10] <kcm1700> I wanna switch between horizontal/vertical wheel scrolling
[06:10] <kcm1700> any help? what keyword should I google for?
[06:11] <highline> hello ppl
[06:11] <wols_> kcm1700: do you have a mouse whiceh can do both or have a normal wheel mouse, with normal scroll wheel and what this single wheel to do both?
[06:12] <kcm1700> I think normal scroll wheel. single wheel between two buttons.
[06:13] <wols_> kcm1700: newer mice have a wheel you can press left or right and it works for scrolling vertically
[06:14] <zykes-> wols_: i can paste you that xorg.log file that you requested, sorry for the delay (regarding nvidia issues on a lenovo t510 with nvidia gm3100 card that's not working)
[06:15] <wols_> zykes-: you can, but right now I gotta go for a drive for and hour or two. and yout T510 should (usually) work fine. even with hybrid graphics
[06:15] <kcm1700> it's an old ordinary mouse. hmm that method doesn't seem to work well with my case. thx for your care.
[06:16] <zykes-> wols_: oh ?
[06:16] <wols_> zykes-: paste it. there are more people than me here who can help
[06:16] <wols_> if you still want it solved that is
[06:17] <zykes-> yeah i want
[06:17] <kcm1700> Actually the wheel was working as a vertical scroller at startup. After some time on linux, it works as a horizontal scroller.
[06:18] <kcm1700> I think I accidently turned on horizontal scrolling feature(?), is it nothing to do with linux? I didn't see this behaviour on windows.
[06:19] <zykes-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/656912/
[06:24] <zykes-> anyone able to take a look ?
[06:26] <ck_> 3
[06:27] <zykes-> dunno why i get no screen found :/
[06:28] <ck_> has anyone used wordtracker, tried to take the data into openOffice?
[06:29] <Herakles> I rebooted manually, and now the Display is completly restored..., thank you dr_willis....
[06:29] <Blade20> zykes-, looking now
[06:31] <kcm1700> ah... it wasn't linux thing.
[06:31] <kcm1700> it was virtualbox bug. sorry.
[06:32] <Blade20> zykes-, i use ATI so i do not know  for sure what the command is for nvidia ... for ati the command is sudo aticonfig --initial -f    for one monitor...
[06:32] <zykes-> i have done that Blade20, nvidia-settings
[06:32] <zykes-> should i post the config ?
[06:32] <mark__> I have a youtube video stuck on my screen, anyone know how to fix that?
[06:32] <Blade20> zykes-, how many monitors are you running?
[06:33] <zykes-> 2 Blade20 that are connected
[06:33] <mark__> ...
[06:33] <zykes-> but i've tried with just the laptop as well
[06:34] <args[0]> Hi, if i install vsftpd (ftp) on my ubuntu, will it automatically run always after i restart?
[06:34] <Blade20> zykes-,  again not sure what the settings are for nvidia but with my ati what i had to do was remove the xorg.conf file and start a new one with aticonfig --initial and use the command line to set up for dual monitors... once you find the right command it will work
[06:35] <Blade20> zykes-,  have you tried nvidia-settings --help in terminal
[06:38] <zykes-> Blade20: yes but says nothing about something like "dual monitors" or similar
[06:38] <Tom^> zykes- you shouldnt need to make any explicit nvidia-settings command
[06:39] <Tom^> just temporarly mv the old xorg.conf away launch nvidia-settings and it creates a new xorg.conf then setup dual monitors under "X Server Display Configuration"
[06:39] <zykes-> Tom^: sorry nvidia-xconfig
[06:40] <zykes-> Tom^: i can't get nvidia-settings either to budge, "The control display is undefined"
[06:43] <share> if I hibernate computer Ubuntu will use swap partition right
[06:44] <Shadow11> greetings
[06:44] <share> ei
[06:44] <Shadow11> question regarding running from usb stick
[06:45] <Shadow11> I started up successfully, close down and started up on anther computer..and it asked me for login....   dont know what is supposed to go in there. did not create new account first.
[06:45] <Shadow11> any ideas?
[06:45] <^Pilgrim^> hello
[06:46] <^Pilgrim^> i have a question
[06:46] <Shadow11> hello ^Pilgrim^
[06:46] <mintux> how to fix grub in new version of ubuntu
[06:46] <share> Shadow11: did u install persistent usb or live usb
[06:46] <mintux> grub command doesn't work for me
[06:46] <bazhang> !grub2 | mintux have a read
[06:46] <Shadow11> persistent I believe.   gave it 4gig space to save settings.
[06:47] <DETERMINOLOGY> Bout to flash roms..Steel or viper?
[06:47] <^Pilgrim^> question: how can I network a number of linux machines so that all the users can login to a central user/pwd database with their home folders in the server?
[06:47] <DETERMINOLOGY> opps
[06:47] <Shadow11> used the linked program to install iso image onto 32gb flash drive.
[06:48] <Shadow11> gave it 4gb storage space to save settings
[06:48] <Shadow11> booted up twice on two seperate machines..when I shut down on second and started again..was asking for auto login or other.  tried auto but it rejected the option
[06:49] <Shadow11> Pilgrim I would guess an ldap server would do that..but have not setup on linux before..perhaps someone else on list can help there
[06:50] <Shadow11> all the machines would need to be configured for ldap server locaiton and login requiremetnts.
[06:50] <Shadow11> and be able to reach it on network of course
[06:51] <Shadow11> anyone had dealings with autologin/other showing up on usb boot stick?
[06:51] <Kartagis> !gnome3
[06:51] <bsmith093> how do i set a command to go off 15 secs from now
[06:52] <Kartagis> bsmith093: sleep 15;command
[06:52] <bsmith093> ah duh thanks
[06:52] <Kartagis> np
[06:53] <Shadow11> any comments on boot options showing up when there was none require before?
[06:53] <weside> Man, I was just looking on http://gnome3.org/ and watching the videos, yeah I think I like Gnome 3 better then Unity, lol.
[06:54] <rww> GNOME 3 is a desktop environment. Unity is a shell for GNOME 2 and 3. Perhaps you mean GNOME Shell, which is another (more official) shell.
[06:54] <weside> Yah you know what I mean.
[06:55] <thauriswulfa> HELP: Need help to install synaptics-dkms_1.1.0_all.deb in xubuntu to enable multitouch in touchpad.
[06:57] <zykes-> Tom^: any other hints?
[06:58] <Tom^> zykes- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[06:58] <Tom^> test follow that
[06:59] <Tom^> i dont have ubuntu myself but give it a shot
[07:02] <thauriswulfa> can anybody help me enabling touchpad scrollbars?
[07:05] <share> is there any problem if I use a username with only letter
[07:05] <share> im not running a server..
[07:05] <kylemcgill> For Gnome three support, would here or #gnome be the right place, my issue is after a clean installation of Ubuntu 11.04 off a live cd, i add the repo, update, dist-upgrade, install gnome-shell my ubuntu installation wont boot ><
[07:05] <share> !username
[07:06] <cvloc13> hey everyone, im having a bit of trouble with learning C that i believe has to do with my distro
[07:07] <cvloc13> im trying to compile some source using gc.h and have already apt-get libgc-dev but when i compile with gcc i get an error of file not found for gc.h
[07:07] <kylemcgill> have you got build-essentials?
[07:07] <kylemcgill> cvloc13: ^^
[07:07] <cvloc13> i believe so
[07:07] <rww> it's named build-essential
[07:08] <cvloc13> yup already have
[07:10] <GeorgeJ> cvloc13: What does `find /usr/include/ -name rdma` yield?
[07:12] <cvloc13> /usr/include/rdma
[07:13] <GeorgeJ> ah sorry
[07:13] <greekk> hello
[07:13] <GeorgeJ> find /usr/include/ -name gc.h is what I ment, or dpkg -L libgc-dev as you were suggested
[07:13] <GeorgeJ> It should show you the path to gc.h(if installed)
[07:14] <GeorgeJ> It should be somewhere in /usr/include. If its in /usr/include/gc/gc.h you could simply #include <gc/gc.h>
[07:15] <theadmin> Or to use the full path you do #include '/usr/include/gc/gc.h'
[07:15] <cvloc13> ok ill try the gc/gc.h
[07:15] <cvloc13> ah ok thanks that worked :P
[07:16] <carl-eric> hi - my natty /boot partition is shot. How do I recreate a boot partition and install a grub with swap being on a random-key encrypted partition and / being on a password-encrypted partition?
[07:17] <quiescens> as in, you have the above setup. but you are now missing your /boot ?
[07:18] <carl-eric> quiescens, exactly
[07:18] <researcher123> where can I obtain software for morphing in ubuntu
[07:18] <carl-eric> quiescens, upon re-booting from a live CD, it would not recognize the partition that was supposed to be /boot
[07:18] <quiescens> you would most likely want to find a way to mount your encrypted partition
[07:19] <carl-eric> quiescens, i managed to do that from the live cd
[07:19] <researcher123> is there a forum for Morphing?
[07:19] <Hittwice> hello
[07:19] <quiescens> why doesn't it recognize /boot ?
[07:19] <Hittwice> i need help
[07:19] <carl-eric> quiescens, I have no idea
[07:19] <quiescens> errors? or doesn't appear at all?
[07:19] <quiescens> is it on the same drive as the rest?
[07:20] <quiescens> it doesn't recognize the partition exists? or it simply can't mount it?
[07:20] <carl-eric> quiescens, all one drive in the laptop. all other partitions work fine, the formerly-/boot partition is there, but it doesn't recognize the filesystem
[07:20] <Hittwice> I need help
[07:20] <Hittwice> The latest update remove GNOME!
[07:20] <quiescens> carl-eric: so if you've tried to fix it and have had no success, and have no backup, you can probably format the partition and remake your /boot
[07:20] <Hittwice> Now Im running on unity
[07:21] <Hittwice> can anyone tell me how to get back Gnome?!
[07:21] <vuth> hi hittwice
[07:21] <iceroot> !classic | Hittwice
[07:21] <Hittwice> tried installing via apt-get, but couldnt
[07:21] <carl-eric> quiescens, that's what I'm thinking ;-) My problem is: How do I a) get the proper files back on /boot, and b) how do I get grub to work with the encrypted partitions
[07:21] <vuth> http://technologytales.com/2011/06/03/adding-gnome-3-to-linux-mint-11/
[07:21] <Hittwice> when i login theres no GNome classic
[07:21] <vuth> go to that hittwice
[07:22] <iceroot> Hittwice: output of "dpkg -l | grep ubuntu-desktop" please
[07:22] <Hittwice> Only Ubuntu and Recovery console
[07:22] <TA5K> Hittwice: have you checked your update history in synaptics eg?
[07:22] <iceroot> Hittwice: you are on 11.04?
[07:22] <Hittwice> yes
[07:23] <TA5K> Hittwice: and selected the right one oin the login screen?
[07:23] <Hittwice> no response from command "dpkg -l | grep ubuntu-desktop"
[07:23] <Hittwice> balnk response
[07:23] <vuth> omg this kid just pissed on my lawn!!! got damn BUNGHOLE
[07:23] <quiescens> carl-eric: if you have managed to boot a livecd, first step is mount your / somewhere
[07:23] <theadmin> vuth: Wrong channel.
[07:23] <kamidi> Hittwice: are you sure you didn't upgrade to 11.10 (oneiric)? i think gnome classic is already removed from it
[07:23] <vuth> opppz sorry wrong chat window
[07:23] <carl-eric> quiescens, got that
[07:23] <Hittwice> no i didnt
[07:23] <vuth> sorry admin
[07:23] <carl-eric>  / seems to be in order
[07:24] <kamidi> Hittwice: ok just checking.. weird
[07:24] <Hittwice> Ubuntu 11.04
[07:24] <Hittwice> i checked the synaptic, gnome packages are missing
[07:24] <Hittwice> all of them!
[07:25] <quiescens> carl-eric: where? anyway, you will want to bind your /dev /proc /sys into that tree so that you can use chroot
[07:25] <iceroot> Hittwice: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:25] <Hittwice> could not be installed
[07:25] <Hittwice> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation:  The following packages have unmet dependencies:  ubuntu-desktop : Depends: evince but it is not going to be installed                   Recommen
[07:26] <iceroot> Hittwice: please paste the output of "cat /etc/issue" and "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[07:26] <carl-eric> quiescens, one moment, doing that
[07:26] <iceroot> !paste | Hittwice
[07:26] <brylie> ubottu, language
[07:26] <iceroot> Hittwice: also the output of "apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop"
[07:27] <Hittwice> http://paste.ubuntu.com/656951/
[07:27] <Hittwice> the output
[07:28] <carl-eric> quiescens, got /dev /proc /sys bound in the mounted /
[07:28] <theadmin> Hamsters.
[07:29] <Hittwice> http://paste.ubuntu.com/656953/
[07:29] <Hittwice> another one
[07:29] <Hittwice> hello?
[07:30] <quiescens> carl-eric: so you need to do mount -o bind /dev /wherever/dev
[07:30] <quiescens> carl-eric: and again for /proc and /sys
[07:30] <carl-eric> quiescens, I did that
[07:32] <quiescens> and then you should be able to chroot to your old /
[07:32] <Hittwice> anyone?
[07:32] <quiescens> and from there, hopefully apt-get reinstall your kernel image, and then update-grub
[07:33] <quiescens> carl-eric: mount your new /boot too of course
[07:33] <carl-eric> quiescens, do I mount /boot before the chroot into the to-be-chrooted tree, or do i mount it to /boot, once I'm in chroot?
[07:34] <tsinfo> Hi, any squirrelmail chat plugin
[07:34] <quiescens> carl-eric: probably easiest to mount it before you chroot
[07:35] <share> lol
[07:35] <share> Natty install detects Windows 7 as Vista
[07:36] <Hittwice> hello anyone that can help me?
[07:36] <share> !anyone
[07:36] <quiescens> carl-eric: you will probably need to grub-install (your new /boot device) too
[07:36] <Hittwice> Apparently everyone is leaving my problems without any note
[07:37] <nbest>    Hi.  A software instalation instruction says to :"Then add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list file:"  Plz where can i find the sources list file?
[07:37] <nbest>  i'm very new to ubuntu.
[07:37] <Hittwice> they leave my problems unattended
[07:37] <Hittwice> I asked earlier and there is a response
[07:37] <carl-eric> quiescens, i'm installing the linux image now - what are the exact commands i need for grub?
[07:38] <kamidi> Hittwice: I'm not expert about those kind of things but everything seems to be ok (i think), except that ubuntu-desktop package is not installed (and apparently cannot be installed due to broken dependancies)
[07:38] <carl-eric> quiescens, there is also a windows partition on that drive (which is the bootable one)
[07:38] <Hittwice> finally some response
[07:38] <ThinkT510> nbest: what are you trying to install?
[07:38] <nbest> tor
[07:38] <ThinkT510> !find tor
[07:38] <quiescens> carl-eric: (possibly sudo, depending on whether you are already root) grub-install (your new /boot device)
[07:39] <theadmin> !info tor | ThinkT510
[07:39] <Hittwice> well i assume ubuntu wont have that kind or problems
[07:39] <quiescens> carl-eric: (possibly sudo, depending on whether you are already root) update-grub
[07:39] <kamidi> Hittwice: No, i don't think so
[07:39] <ThinkT510> nbest: there you go, it is in the repo
[07:39] <Hittwice> something is not allowing me to install gnome
[07:39] <ThinkT510> nbest: sudo apt-get install tor
[07:39] <carl-eric> quiescens, so first grub-install, then update-grub
[07:39] <quiescens> carl-eric: should be
[07:40] <dr_willis> tor finally made it back into the repos eh.
[07:40] <carl-eric> quiescens, do I point it at the new /boot or the bootable windows partition?
[07:40] <carl-eric> quiescens, or at /dev/sda itself?
[07:40] <nbest>  think they said not to use the ubuntu universe because they are less reliable then from the official site
[07:40] <quiescens> carl-eric: actually, I don't know if your boot loader is intact, and is just missing the files in /boot
[07:40] <Hittwice> Must be Unity hating GNOME to the point it removes and doesn't allow me to install it back
[07:40] <piercedwater> irc.what.cd 6667
[07:40] <quiescens> one moment
[07:40] <ThinkT510> nbest: when installing software you should always look in the package manager first (don't just randomly download it off the internet)
[07:40] <kamidi> Hittwice: have you tried 'sudo apt-get install -f' to fix dependencies?
[07:41] <quiescens> carl-eric: you may be able to get away with just the update-grub
[07:41] <carl-eric> quiescens, i'm not sure about that either. I think the best bet would be to just reinstall grub too
[07:41] <Hittwice> yes
[07:41] <Hittwice> and they ask me to use apt-get remove
[07:41] <Hittwice> which i dont want to
[07:41] <quiescens> carl-eric: okay, well where you do grub-install to depends on your setup
[07:42] <starlite>  how can I display command line (shell) output as a popup or a webpage in ubuntu ?
[07:42] <kamidi> Hittwice: What is it going to remove when you do it?
[07:42] <quiescens> carl-eric: did you previously have the grub bootloader, give you an option of linux and windows
[07:42] <carl-eric> quiescens, yes i did
[07:42] <quiescens> or did you have the windows loader, giving you the option
[07:42] <Hittwice> !paste  gir1.2-json-1.0 libseed0 gir1.2-gstreamer-0.10 gir1.2-clutter-1.0   xulrunner-2.0-mozjs libclutter-1.0-0 gnome-js-common libclutter-1.0-common
[07:42] <carl-eric> quiescens, i had grub coming up on boot
[07:42] <quiescens> carl-eric: in that case, you probably want to grub-install to the drive (/dev/sda or /dev/hda or whichever)
[07:43] <nbest>   think .. sorry, maybe i misunderstood the instructions.  They said "Do not use the packages in Ubuntu's universe. In the past they have not reliably been updated. That means you could be missing stability and security fixes."
[07:43] <Hittwice> http://paste.ubuntu.com/656966/
[07:43] <carl-eric> quiescens, thanks, I'm going to try and boot that machine now :)
[07:44] <Hittwice> the packages that is going to remove
[07:44] <ThinkT510> nbest: if that is what it says on the tor site, feel free to do what you want (don't expect it to be easy to maintain though if you install it any other way)
[07:45] <tsinfo> Hi, Has anyone installed a plugin for internet chat?
[07:45] <nbest>  well i will try to follow their instructions exactly.  Could anyone tell me where to find the source list file so i can start?
[07:45] <quiescens> carl-eric: so apt-get reinstall (linux-image-(version)) ; update-grub ; and grub-install /dev/sda (or /dev/hda or whichever)
[07:45] <ThinkT510> nbest: you just posted where it is
[07:46] <Hittwice> hello?
[07:46] <ThinkT510> nbest: "Then add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list file:"
[07:47] <nbest>  right, i thought that's what you meant, i was just getting that to ask.. but i dont' understand what that line means
[07:47] <carl-eric> quiescens, we're half-way there :-) It booted grub, asked for the luks password, and managed to mount sda10_crypt
[07:47] <kamidi> Hittwice: I'm sorry I can't help you :( I hope here are someone who can.
[07:47] <nbest>   oh wait i think i see
[07:47] <carl-eric> quiescens, now I'm at a busybox initramfs prompt though
[07:47] <nbest>  it's a directory structure
[07:47] <Hittwice> ....................
[07:47] <nbest>   duh lol
[07:47] <sunit>  how can I display command line (shell) output as a popup or a webpage
[07:47] <ThinkT510> nbest: you aren't familiar with the directory structure of linux?
[07:47] <Hittwice> What the.......
[07:47] <nbest>   nope, like 2nd day using linux here :P
[07:48] <Hittwice> any other channels that i can get help?
[07:48] <nbest>   i'll do my best to muddle through though :)
[07:48] <kamidi> Hittwice: And be patient ;-)
[07:48] <ThinkT510> nbest: wow, and you chose to install tor? bit ambiteous
[07:48] <nbest>   lol ikr
[07:49] <kamidi> Hittwice: I don't know. I suppose this is the channel. You can also try ##club-ubuntu, there seems to be very competent people :)
[07:49] <nbest>  but my windoz broke and i'm part of some tor communities that i just have to get back to :P
[07:49] <quiescens> carl-eric: okay, get back to your livecd for now
[07:49] <kyi> damn it jim
[07:50] <nirvikar> hello
[07:50] <kyi> n e one use ubuntu on a ppc?
[07:51] <theadmin> sunit: Weird question really, you can get it to a text file like this: command > file.txt
[07:51] <nirvikar> need help with myth tv and usb capture device
[07:51] <theadmin> sunit: There is no way for a command output to produce sensible HTML.
[07:51] <carl-eric> quiescens, ok, i'm there. mounting my / again
[07:51] <theadmin> sunit: Well, unless it's some very specific command.
[07:51] <quiescens> carl-eric: i would have gotten you to check the contents of your /boot and / for me before you rebooted really
[07:51] <carl-eric> quiescens, duh. my bad, sorry.
[07:51] <aldo3> @
[07:52] <aldo3> w4
[07:52] <carl-eric> quiescens, ok, I'm there
[07:52] <quiescens> carl-eric: so for your /boot, you should probably have a grub directory, plus files starting with: abi, initrd, vmlinuz
[07:52] <nirvikar> hey help with mythbuntu and usb capture device
[07:53] <theadmin> !repeat | nirvikar
[07:53] <sunit> theadmin: ok. But is there any option to dispaly the shell output as a popup ?
[07:53] <theadmin> sunit: Hm... Let me see
[07:53] <theadmin> sunit: command | xmessage -file -
[07:54] <nirvikar> thx guys
[07:54] <carl-eric> quiescens, I have abi, config-, initrd.img-, System.map-, vmcoreinfo-, vmlinuz-, all ending with 2.6.38.10-generic
[07:54] <nirvikar> searching at the same time
[07:54] <quiescens> carl-eric: grub directory?
[07:54] <carl-eric> quiescens, and grub/ containing quite a lot
[07:54] <quiescens> carl-eric: okay
[07:54] <nirvikar> so no way to im me here i will have to wait and watch the screen?
[07:55] <ThinkT510> nirvikar: it should highlight you if your nick is spoken
[07:55] <quiescens> carl-eric: grub.cfg in the grub directory?
[07:55] <kyi> look at the mythtv docs. it's beens a while since I used mythtv but chances are some else has encountered your problem b4
[07:55] <sergei_> hello guys, is there a bundle for popular firefox plugins ?
[07:55] <Noor_egy> hello i'm using usb mudem Huawei k3770 and my ubuntu11.04 dont see it and cant conect to internet , could anyone help me
[07:56] <sunit> theadmin: thanks
[07:56] <carl-eric> quiescens, yes
[07:56] <theadmin> sergei_: Nope
[07:56] <kyi> can you capture n e thing with that usb device?
[07:56] <quiescens> carl-eric: do a (sudo) blkid
[07:56] <quiescens> carl-eric: keep track of which is your /
[07:56] <nirvikar> thx
[07:57] <Noor_egy> hello i'm using usb mudem Huawei k3770 and my ubuntu11.04 dont see it and cant conect to internet , could anyone help me
[07:57] <kyi> suce as 'cat  video? > test.mpg'
[07:57] <carl-eric> quiescens, got it - it's /dev/mapper/udisks-luks-<some-uuid>: UUID=<other!-uuid>
[07:58] <Viking667> really weird question...
[07:58] <Viking667> How would I go about reinstalling all (yes, that means ALL) my installed packages?
[07:58] <irreverant> So as an old man I have a question, is it true that apple computers running a ssd boot up after 20 and 30 seconds? much faster supposedly than a ubuntu is this true?
[07:58] <quiescens> carl-eric: now have a look at your grub.cfg and make sure that the UUID for your / is listed for the search (stuff) --set=root lines
[07:58] <Viking667> I seem to have some damage here.
[07:59] <Viking667> nothing's coming up as broken, but quite a few packages were showing a LOT of files not there...
[07:59] <Viking667> i.e. mplayer ended up with just the /etc files...
[07:59] <theadmin> Viking667: apt-get --reinstall install $(dpkg -l)
[07:59] <Viking667> yet when I reinstalled mplayer, they all come back.
[07:59] <Noor_egy> hello i'm using usb mudem Huawei k3770 and my ubuntu11.04 dont see it and cant conect to internet , could anyone help me
[07:59] <Viking667> theadmin: hm. Is that going to take out my existing running programs?
[08:00] <irreverant> than a ubuntu or windows computer, basically the argument is that it's a better setup than any nix setup or windows setup anyone could have? can anyone comment on this?
[08:00] <Viking667> theadmin: and incidentally, dpkg -l  dumps status on ALL packages
[08:00] <carl-eric> quiescens, it appears that the UUID in the search line is the one for my /boot!
[08:00] <ThinkT510> irreverant: that isn't reallt a support question; perhaps you can ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:00] <kyi> dude ssd just read faster, plust that sounds like a troll ??
[08:01] <quiescens> carl-eric: the search lines that have --set=root should have the uuid for your /
[08:01] <theadmin> Viking667: Oh yes
[08:01] <Hittwice> UNITY SUCKS!
[08:01] <quiescens> carl-eric: annd, i have to get going, sorry, best of luck ):
[08:01] <carl-eric> quiescens, can I just edit that file?
[08:01] <theadmin> Viking667: This should work better: apt-get --reinstall install $(dpkg --get-selections)
[08:01] <carl-eric> quiescens, thanks a lot!
[08:01] <Viking667> yuh. Thought something looked fishy
[08:01] <theadmin> Viking667: I suggest you do this from single-user (recovery) mode
[08:01] <ThinkT510> Hittwice: feel free to use an alternative desktop environment
[08:01] <quiescens> carl-eric: you can probably just edit it for now
[08:01] <irreverant> well sort of it is; only because i'm trying to identify it it is true; how could i optimize my nix to load faster.
[08:02] <quiescens> carl-eric: when you get your system running properly, you'll want to make sure that update-grub keeps the correct uuid
[08:02] <ThinkT510> irreverant: are you running ubuntu?
[08:02] <quiescens> carl-eric: in all likelihood, update-grub is getting it wrong because you're booting from a livecd
[08:02] <Viking667> theadmin: yeah. and the output from dpkg looks like:  packagename    install     or  packagename  deinstall
[08:02] <Hittwice> and it doesnt work cause unity kicked em!
[08:02] <Hittwice> like Gnome
[08:02] <Viking667> does apt have the capability to tell the difference?
[08:02] <irreverant> Yes i'm running ubuntu.
[08:02] <theadmin> Viking667: Did you try it with --get-selections?
[08:03] <Viking667> that's what gave me that output
[08:03] <irreverant> ThinkT510
[08:03] <Viking667> i.e. sample line:    ant-optional-gcj                                deinstall
[08:03] <theadmin> Viking667: Oh... Damn, I really am not familiar with dpkg. Here's how I'd do it on my system: pacman -S $(pacman -Q)
[08:03] <sunit> theadmin:only pop up window is generated. How can I display the shell output in that pop up ?
[08:03] <Viking667> theadmin: ugh.
[08:03] <theadmin> Viking667: But that ain't gonna be helpful
[08:04] <Viking667> no. I don't think I've ever seen pacman outside of whatever distro that appears on.
[08:04] <Viking667> Slackware?
[08:04] <ThinkT510> irreverant: you could run your own benchmarks to see if one runs faster than the other
[08:04] <carl-eric> quiescens, ok, I think I'll find my way from here. Thanks a lot!!
[08:04] <mrmist> .
[08:05] <ThinkT510> Viking667: pacman is on archlinux
[08:05] <theadmin> Viking667: Arch
[08:05] <Viking667> ahhh. Knew I'd seen it, knew I'd never used it.
[08:07] <theadmin> Anyone, how to list ALL installed packages?
[08:07] <theadmin> Come on, it can't be hard
[08:07] <ThinkT510> !clone | theadmin
[08:07] <Viking667> theadmin: the line you gave was pretty close, but I'd need to filter some stuff out.
[08:07] <Viking667> !automate
[08:08] <theadmin> Viking667: There, use that, just without the "!?automatic" bit
[08:08] <Viking667> why not the automatic?
[08:08] <theadmin> Viking667: I think ! means "not"
[08:08] <theadmin> Viking667: Not sure tho
[08:08] <Viking667> theadmin: and, what the heck are you doing in #Ubuntu if you don't use it?
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[08:08] <theadmin> Viking667: I'm bored
[08:09] <Viking667> sigh.
[08:10] <ThinkT510> Viking667: you can still answer support questions if you are using different distros (knowledge can pass over, just need to be aware of the differences)
[08:10] <Viking667> mrm.
[08:11] <NoReflex> hello! I borked the permissions on my system. I was able to get most of them fixed but there are a few things that don't work. For example in xsession-errors I have (gnome-settings-daemon:2434): WARNING **: Connection failed, reconnecting; the shutdown / restart buttons won't work. If I click on them it just logs out. I'm using Lucid
[08:12] <NoReflex> apart from that it seems to work fine
[08:13] <theadmin> NoReflex: Related to dbus no doubt
[08:13] <theadmin> NoReflex: Can't help more than that
[08:13] <NoReflex> I could try an upgrade to the new version - but I don't know if that will fix permissions or just hang on installing
[08:14] <theadmin> NoReflex: You should try reinstalling packages related to your problem.
[08:14] <Viking667> gawd. mention three letters, and I've inadvertedly started world war four...
[08:14] <Viking667> s/world/distro
[08:14] <wmcinnis> anyone have problems after they install the nvidia drivers then do the plymouth fix that the nivida drivers dont work anymore
[08:15] <vuth> is there a difference between using the terminal and update manager to update ur system?
[08:15] <vuth> like in terminal using the sudo --apt update etc. commands
[08:15] <ThinkT510> vuth: the end result would be the same
[08:16] <iceroot> vuth: yes but normally you dont see the difference
[08:16] <KrisDouglas> vuth, there are some subtle differences on how updates are handled, but for everyday use they are both the same
[08:16] <iceroot> vuth: both are using dpkg
[08:16] <iceroot> vuth: but they handle dependencies and the solution of conflicts different
[08:16] <vuth> okay but i just notice most of u guys use the commands in terminal
[08:17] <KrisDouglas> vuth, It can be faster or just a preferred choice some times. Easier to explain to a new user as well, I think.
[08:17] <ThinkT510> vuth: it is quicker than describing what to click
[08:17] <vuth> lol
[08:17] <vuth> thnx again
[08:20] <sundar_> hi all
[08:20] <stephenh> hi, is there a way to make logrotate and syslog-ng play nicely?  this is the output i'm getting daily: http://goo.gl/3wpVo
[08:21] <vuth> anyone have a windows phone?
[08:21] <sundar_> i am not sure if i am on the right channel to ask this question. I am on an embedded arm board running linux. I would like to open a virtual console on ctrl+alt+f1. any idea how i can achieve this?
[08:22] <ThinkT510> sundar_: what linux are you running?
[08:22] <GSF1200S_> stephenh, thats strange- im running Arch and using both syslog-ng and logrotate without issues
[08:22] <sundar_> its a custom compiled kernel with a filesystem from the vendor
[08:22] <stephenh> GSF1200S_: there's a few people posting about it but couldn't see a fix
[08:23] <stephenh> only happening on our lucid servers
[08:23] <sundar_> ThinkT510: ^above
[08:23] <ThinkT510> sundar_: then we can't help you, maybe there is an arm-linux channel
[08:23] <sundar_> ThinkT510: Thanks I'll check out the right channel then
[08:24] <ThinkT510> !arm | sundar_
[08:24] <stephenh> mm :\
[08:24] <Boots> so does anyone know how to get itunes working?
[08:25] <sundar_> ThinkT510: Ok I'll check out at ubuntu-arm then :)
[08:25] <sunit> theadmin: what shall i do ?
[08:25] <ThinkT510> Boots: maybe you could ask in #winehq
[08:25] <GSF1200S_> Boots: use virtualbox with a windows client and itunes- it doesnt work under wine and apple doesnt care if linux users can access there stuff
[08:25] <ThinkT510> !appdb | Boots
[08:26] <GSF1200S_> stephenh, odd.. I dont have a lucid setup so I cant help you their- I have Arch and Natty (11.04)
[08:26] <GSF1200S_> there*
[08:26] <vuth> does anyone here sync their smartphone (android or windows) calendar, contacts, etc. over linux ?
[08:26] <Boots> thanks sorry i was checking it out
[08:26] <stephenh> bother.
[08:27] <jussi> vuth: I just use the google sync via gmail.
[08:27] <jussi> !anyone | vuth
[08:27] <stephenh> hoped someone had encountered it and fixed it :)
[08:28] <Boots> another question, im in a different chat room using firefox and when i go to post something it takes forever to show up in the chat. Whats wrong?
[08:29] <unfuquitable> hey
[08:29] <unfuquitable> so this is ubuntu, not linux mint?
[08:29] <ThinkT510> thats right
[08:29] <iceroot> unfuquitable: korrekt
[08:30] <Viking667> sigh
[08:30] <stephenh> idd.
[08:30] <iceroot> !mint | unfuquitable
[08:30] <unfuquitable> well guess i have both installed...
[08:30] <unfuquitable> i know. just checking my installations, sorry
[08:31] <vuth> jussi do u have an android phone?
[08:32] <jussi> vuth: yes
[08:32] <vuth> off topic but just cruiois
[08:32] <vuth> kewl thnx
[08:32] <luite> I saw some instruction about ndiswrapper to get the wireless running on a sandy bridge macbook pro. is that still the best way, or is there a native driver now?
[08:32] <jussi> vuth: you may want to join #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[08:32] <vuth> i shall
[08:32] <Viking667> faugh...
[08:38]  * ThinkT510 thinks he heard a pin drop
[08:38] <Viking667> OUCH!!! That was my TOE you dropped that on!
[08:38] <Viking667> Next time you drop a marble rolling pin, try it on your head.
[08:39] <anli_> Did I just join this channel?
[08:39] <ThinkT510> yes, you are here now
[08:39] <anli_> I did not ask if I am here now
[08:40] <ThinkT510> ok, you joined about 5 mins ago
[08:40] <anli_> hm, interesting
[08:40] <anli_> I hibernated my ubuntu over the night
[08:40] <anli_> nickserv however does not require me to authenticate now in the morning
[08:44] <nbest>  /join #tor
[08:45] <Viking667> nbest: no thanks.
[08:49] <bullgard4_> Banshee 2.0.0 > Track Editor > Sorting: What is the effect if I make an entry in the  "Sort Track Title:" field?
[08:59] <deni> hi guys....does anyone have a thinkpad and uses tp_smapi?
[09:00] <deni> i'm having trouble with it for some weird reason
[09:00] <ThinkT510> deni: i have a thinkpad but can't say i've used that
[09:02] <deni> ThinkT510: i try to set the start_charge_thresh and stop_charge_thresh and i echo one value in the file but when i cat it i get another value
[09:02] <deni> something very weird is going on
[09:02] <cliffton> any one availible to help a complete noob?
[09:03] <ThinkT510> cliffton: i'll give it a try
[09:03] <cliffton> I am on a netbook (eee pc 1005ha(b)
[09:03] <ThinkT510> deni: is that to do with the battery?
[09:03] <cliffton> and some windows and programs seem to trail off screen, i am currently at the highest resouloution
[09:04] <ThinkT510> cliffton: what is the resolution?
[09:04] <cliffton> they fit right on the horizontal plane but verticly some windows go below the screen
[09:04] <cliffton> 1200x600
[09:04] <cliffton> is what i have set at
[09:04] <ThinkT510> cliffton: ahh, that is problematic
[09:05] <cliffton> sorry 1024x600
[09:05] <ThinkT510> cliffton: which apps show below?
[09:05] <deni> ThinkT510: yes
[09:05] <llutz_> cliffton: some apps are simply just broken, they cannot handle low resolutions (evolution etc.pp)
[09:05] <cliffton> if i click view terminal on a dialog window it goes below screen, also i have tried a couple games out that go off screen
[09:05] <ThinkT510> deni: guessed as much, sorry, i keep mine plugged in all the time
[09:06] <ThinkT510> cliffton: like llutz_ said, it is the app designers fault
[09:06] <dheeraj> has issues with compiz in Ubuntu 11.04
[09:06] <dheeraj> can somebody help
[09:07] <ThinkT510> cliffton: they just aren't suited to small screens
[09:07] <cliffton> oh gotcha, any tips for optimization using a netbook? I am running xbuntu 10.4 so far i have every thing stock
[09:07] <decepticon> help! i cant uninstall vidalia :(
[09:07] <decepticon> in ubuntu 11.04
[09:08] <ThinkT510> !info vidalia
[09:08] <decepticon> !info vidalia
[09:08] <ThinkT510> decepticon: what happens when you sudo apt-get remove vidalia?
[09:08] <deni> ThinkT510: tnx, anyway
[09:09] <ThinkT510> deni: no worries :) (glad you came along, it was getting too quiet)
[09:09] <deni> i also keep mine plugged in all the time...that's why i'm trying to preserve the battery
[09:09] <deni> cause i don't wan't to plug it out all the time
[09:10] <nbest>  hi, how could i change a file that's supposed to be read only?
[09:10] <llutz_> deni: but THAT really would preserve the batter
[09:10] <llutz_> y
[09:10] <nbest>  it's the source list file
[09:10] <llutz_> nbest: use sudo/gksu
[09:10] <nbest>   i need to change it as per instalation instructions... k, thanks
[09:11] <ThinkT510> nbest: gksudo gedit /path/to/file
[09:11] <cliffton> hey thanks guys!!!
[09:11] <nbest>   oh i see,  :)
[09:11] <nbest>  i'll do that ty
[09:12] <dheeraj> configuring wall in compiz has messed up the system.. even can't get to terminal ..any help is appreciatd
[09:12] <bullgard4_> Banshee 2.0.0 > Track Editor > Sorting: What is the effect if I make an entry in the  "Sort Track Title:" field?
[09:12] <ThinkT510> nbest: be careful when editing anything with sudo
[09:12] <nbest>  i will think510, i understand that's like the administrator access
[09:13] <ThinkT510> nbest: you're doing good on your 2nd day
[09:13] <ThinkT510> nbest: keep it up :)
[09:14] <nbest>   lol, idk i was trying to figure that last question out since i asked u the previous one
[09:14] <bullgard4_> deni: Iam using two Thinkpads. I do not use tp_smapi. Another driver is fulfilling its functionality very well. In Ubuntu one does not need tp_smapi for all what I know.
[09:14] <nbest>  seems like at each step i need to ask
[09:15] <llutz_> !manual | nbest maybe reading this will help
[09:15] <nbest>   bookmarked llutz  :)
[09:16] <nbest>    i'm not going to read a whole manual before i try this but, yea i deff want to start learning
[09:16] <nbest>   i was going to look for tutoria on youtube maybe
[09:18] <llutz_> nbest: learning to use linux-systems means reading, reading, reading :)
[09:19] <ThinkT510> nbest: if you need to practice you could install in a vm and have some fun getting to grips with what does what
[09:20] <flexibeast> Hi all. Just installed Natty, applied all system updates, but can't get the ssh server to start; getting something similar the respawn-and-terminate issue described at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/openssh/+bug/687535
[09:20] <loxs> folks, I decided to try btrfs for my new installation of ubuntu. Now apt-get is something like 5 to 10 times slower. Wtf? Is this normal?
[09:20] <nbest>  llutz , yes reading is good i try to do as much as i can with my limited ADD :P
[09:21] <flexibeast> loxs: It wouldn't surprise me, given that, to the best of my knowledge, btrfs is still under heavy development.
[09:21] <ThinkT510> loxs: btrfs isn't stable yet
[09:21] <nbest>   ThinkT510  that's an interesting idea, kind of catch 22 though heheh cuz  i don't have a windows machine working now,.. so i'd need to set up a ubuntu vm in ubuntu
[09:22] <ThinkT510> nbest: it is easy enough to install virtualbox via the package manager
[09:22] <ThinkT510> nbest: from there on it is pretty self explainitory
[09:23] <lethalduck> We've been having a small issue with shutdown on our EeePC 1215b's (2 of them) running natty. The S/W appears to shutdown cleanly, but the hardware doesn't power off. http://paste.ubuntu.com/657025/
[09:23] <nbest>  oh, i didn't think it would be as easy as that, but if it is that's something worth trying i guess
[09:24] <ThinkT510> !package | nbest
[09:24] <OmegaForte> Great.
[09:25] <OmegaForte> X is no longer saving window positions. Anyone got insight on this?
[09:25] <nbest>  oh, i'll give that website a try then i couldn't find anything on the software centre
[09:25] <ThinkT510> nbest: i find it easier to use synaptic (i don't like the ubuntu software centre ui)
[09:25] <ThinkT510> !synaptic | nbest
[09:26] <OmegaForte> Oh you have got to be kidding me... Disreguard my previous question. Emerald incompatibility is causing it.
[09:26] <OmegaForte> ThinkT510, Hey man, random. Do you know if anyone is maintaining emerald until Jockey comes out?
[09:27] <vuth> anyone have higher driver for nvideo graphics card other than 270.41.06
[09:27] <nbest>  yea  i think i was in that one  system/administration/synaptic package manager
[09:27] <ThinkT510> OmegaForte: no idea sorry, i thought emerald has been dead for a while
[09:27] <nbest>   i tried both the software centre and that one
[09:27] <nbest>  but let me try the website
[09:27] <OmegaForte> ThinkT510, Any idea when Jockey will succeed it? I'm tired of patching bugs.
[09:28] <vuth> my screen resolution just doesnt look as good as i think it should on the big screen
[09:28] <OmegaForte> vuth, GPU/Screen please.
[09:28] <lethalduck> Any ideas?
[09:28] <vuth> tried to update the driver but it keeps saying Downloading/Installing for lon glong
[09:28] <ThinkT510> OmegaForte: until now i've never heard of jockey; so you'd probably know more than me
[09:28] <vuth> hang on omega
[09:28] <bullgard4_> lethalduck: This is a common error. Look it up in Launchpad.
[09:29] <vuth> 9600GT 1680x1050
[09:29] <OmegaForte> vuth, you trying for Xinerama?
[09:29] <lethalduck> bullgard4: ah
[09:29] <vuth> xinerama = 2 same display?
[09:30] <OmegaForte> vuth, No, Xinerama is two displays that act physically like one.
[09:30] <vuth> well right now i just have vga to my 42 inch
[09:30] <vuth> so no 2 displays
[09:31] <Da^Ms7> Experience, lcdproc Vs. LCD4linux? What should I choose?
[09:31] <vuth> like when i had vista everything just look crsp and sharper
[09:31] <vuth> so is there a way for me to find out what latest driver for my video card is that is compatiable for linux
[09:31] <OmegaForte> vuth, Okay. that's because Microslaw's filtering isn't in place. I know of no way to emulate it; as I use monitors.
[09:32] <Diavolettoxte> ciao a tutti
[09:32] <ThinkT510> !it | Diavolettoxte
[09:32] <vuth> ohhh i see
[09:33] <vuth> np...not big problem just thought maybe i couldnt install the latest geforce video drivers
[09:33] <OmegaForte> vuth, But if you use emerald...Or are willing to compile emerald, I guess I'm the only one maintaining it.
[09:33] <OmegaForte> vuth, We're using the latest. 240.41
[09:35] <vuth> im kind of a noob let me find out what emerald is
[09:35] <bullgard4_> Banshee 2.0.0 > Track Editor > Sorting: What is the effect if I make an entry in the  "Sort Track Title:" field?
[09:36] <OmegaForte> vuth, It's lime compiz, but a load prettier and easier to customize with little to no dependency on Metacity.
[09:36] <nbest> ThinkT510,  hmmm, having searched http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/ , every possible sub category, i can't find it on there so..... back to messing with the source list file for me :P
[09:36] <vuth> its a theme?
[09:36] <OmegaForte> vuth, No, it's a bit more of that.
[09:37] <OmegaForte> vuth, It's a themer.
[09:38] <vuth> do u have a website with direction for to install emerald..i might install it down the road
[09:39] <OmegaForte> vuth, Well it's abandoned. I think I'm the only one offering support for it. Jockey is coming soon.
[09:39] <vuth> lol
[09:39] <vuth> why abandoned
[09:39] <vuth> ohh
[09:39] <vuth> nevermind u answered it
[09:40] <Lasers> vuth: That's because TVs shouldn't be treated as monitors. On your 42" TV, the resolution is probably stretched a bit so it's not crispy. Good for movies, sure.
[09:41] <zykes-> wols_: you back ?
[09:43] <ThinkT510> nbest: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/virtualbox-ose-dkms
[09:44] <nbest>  oh, no i meant i couldn't find any tor packages on there
[09:44] <ThinkT510> nbest: and this one: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/virtualbox-ose
[09:45] <ThinkT510> nbest: oh, tor isn't available for lucid
[09:45] <nbest>  thanks, i'll make notes of those.   I think i'm gonna try on my real system though for now because, it's a fresh install, if worst comes to worst, i could just get it reinstalled
[09:45] <OmegaForte> nbest, What are you looking for? I missed some stuff.
[09:45] <nbest>   tor browswer bundle
[09:46] <OmegaForte> nbest, You got a source list? I could build it for you, if you want.
[09:46] <nbest>  ThinkT510 , just said it's not available for lucid?? arghh O.o
[09:46] <ThinkT510> OmegaForte: he is running lucid
[09:46] <OmegaForte> ThinkT510, Wow, Talk about way back to the past.
[09:46] <ThinkT510> !lucid
[09:46] <nbest>  umm source list? , like the source list file?
[09:46] <OmegaForte> nbest, Yeah.
[09:47] <nbest>  i should upgrade my version maybe?
[09:47] <nbest>  should i do that first?
[09:47] <TrevGamingRIg> Get paid via paypal or gift cards to watch videos, offers, surveys, submit emails ect. http://t.co/ivZVyhf , have any questions just ask me :)
[09:47] <OmegaForte> nbest, Yeah, because 11.04 isn't bad.
[09:47] <OmegaForte> Can we get a ban on this trevgaming adbot?
[09:47] <ThinkT510> nbest: what desktop environment do you use? gnome?
[09:47] <vuth> kewl TrevGamingrig
[09:47] <theadmin> !ops | trevgamingrig is spamming
[09:47] <nbest>  k, then perhaps i should do that, especially if it's not available on lucid
[09:48] <OmegaForte> vuth, It's an adbot. Don't mess with it.
[09:48] <nbest>  ThinkT510 , let me check , that should be on system ..
[09:48] <vuth> oh
[09:48] <vuth> thought he was just bragging
[09:48] <nbest>  yea gnome 2.30.2
[09:49] <ThinkT510> nbest: ok, 11.04 uses unity, if you don't like it you can switch to gnome again on 11.04
[09:49] <DeezeNuts> anyone else having a hard time getting gnome 3 working
[09:49] <ThinkT510> nbest: just thought i'd warn you
[09:49] <OmegaForte> DeezeNuts, While your name is inappropirate, I will help you.
[09:49] <nbest>  oh, thanks, i dont' think it will matter since i'm new to this one too
[09:49] <DeezeNuts> that's not my problem, I was just asking
[09:49] <ThinkT510> !gnome3 | DeezeNuts
[09:49] <madbomber_> i use ubuntu classic
[09:50] <DeezeNuts> reason i came here is because i made a live USB for natty
[09:50] <DeezeNuts> and its not installing
[09:50] <DeezeNuts> running a memtest atm
[09:50] <asdrad> Hey guy's! What's up?
[09:50] <OmegaForte> ThinkT510, If that guy still needs help, let me know when he changes his name.
[09:51] <DeezeNuts> Thanks for that info ThinkT510
[09:51] <ThinkT510> DeezeNuts: no worries, gnome 3 should be supported in the next release (11.10)
[09:53] <vuth> how long did it take to learn all the commands in terminal..do u know them off by hear
[09:53] <vuth> *heart
[09:53] <ThinkT510> !terminal | vuth
[09:54] <OmegaForte> God I wished grep worked in IRC.
[09:55] <theadmin> vuth: People know most commands by heart, yes.
[09:55] <theadmin> vuth: People like me, for instance, can't leave without the terminal.
[09:55] <theadmin> vuth: live*
[09:56] <vuth> can i mess up the os by typing in wrong commands...im getting differnt directions from differnet websites
[09:56] <ThinkT510> vuth: you need to know what you are doing, sudo is potentially dangerous
[09:58] <vuth> sh someFileYouWant.run  i never heard anyone use that one b4
[09:58] <vuth> sh command
[09:58] <ThinkT510> vuth: in a terminal type man sh
[09:59] <OmegaForte> ThinkT510, Ugh, that just gave me a flashback.
[09:59] <vuth> bingo
[10:00] <ThinkT510> vuth: man is your friend (press q to quit a manpage)
[10:00] <Angablade> Hey, I was wondering how I would go by running a copy of my favorate webbrowser; Internet Explorer; in Unubtu 11.04. Any Ideas?
[10:01] <ThinkT510> Angablade: run it in a windows vm
[10:01] <Duckfd> playonlinux have ie 6  for u
[10:01] <OmegaForte> You guys realize he was trolling right..
[10:01] <OmegaForte> IE is no one's favorite browser.
[10:02] <Duckfd> hehe
[10:02] <Angablade> Thanks for the information tho.
[10:02] <Duckfd> Fixed his problem even when he did troll
[10:02] <OmegaForte> Haha
[10:02] <Duckfd> =)
[10:03] <Angablade> Thank you guys for all the help. I promise not to do that again. I was just having fun.
[10:03] <vuth> wait
[10:03] <vuth> IE not that bad
[10:03] <OmegaForte> vuth, You are now trolling.
[10:03] <OmegaForte> vuth, IE is the worst everything that ever.
[10:03] <vuth> end
[10:04] <Angablade> You do realize that you could exploit ie in 3 seconds flat with basic javascript...
[10:04] <vuth> lol
[10:05] <Duckfd> fools that don't use noscript is taking a risk
[10:05] <sunit> How can we use shell (command ) output as input ?
[10:05] <Angablade> Internet explorer does not have it.
[10:05] <Angablade> Pipe?
[10:05] <iceroot> sunit: #bash
[10:05] <Duckfd> low iq and no protecton. bad mix : P
[10:06] <sunit> iceroot: ok
[10:07] <theadmin> sunit: Use the pipe.
[10:07] <theadmin> sunit: |
[10:08] <theadmin> sunit: Also, man mkfifo
[10:08] <Angablade> You know.. I dont even have ubuntu installed right now. For the longest time I did. Just formatted for windows 7 when it came out. Time to install it again I say. Dual boot from flash man..
[10:08] <lethalduck> bullgard4: Doesn't appear to be a definitive fix. The same symptoms have been ongoing for quite a few years, by the look of it.
[10:08] <sunit> theadmin: ok
[10:08] <bullgard4_> lethalduck: Are you sure that you mean me?
[10:09] <lethalduck> Yeah bullgard4_
[10:10] <Angablade> Well actually it would be ' || ' to pipe. But I guess that might with I think..
[10:10] <lethalduck> Adding "rmmod snd_hda_intel" to the end of /etc/default/halt works for some.
[10:10] <sunit> theadmin: can you give me an example
[10:10] <lethalduck> I tried it twice and so far so good.
[10:10] <ne2k> on upgrading from maverick to natty, my four serial port card has gone from ttyS[0-3] to ttyS[4-7], which is strange, as ttyS[0-3] are now non-existent. or at least, they don't seem to correspond to anything!
[10:11] <theadmin> sunit: ls | grep 'lol'
[10:11] <lethalduck> bullgard4_ re: the launchpad shutdown bug
[10:11] <theadmin> sunit: Would send the output of ls to grep, which would then search for "lol" in it.
[10:11] <ne2k> theadmin: more specifically, it will print out lines containing "lol"
[10:12] <Angablade> I inspace. Night Guys
[10:12] <theadmin> ne2k: I know.
[10:12] <sunit> theadmin: I am trying
[10:12] <theadmin> ne2k: I'm explaining the basic concept
[10:16] <giany> hello
[10:16] <giany> if I use apt-add-repository it adds two lines in the sources.list file ..one with deb and one with deb-src..what can I do to skip the deb-src line?
[10:16] <ne2k> theadmin: I don't think "it prints out lines containing 'lol'" is any more basic than "it searches for 'lol'", but it is more accurate, and it is more helpful
[10:17] <steveccc> why dont the latest updates to software reach older versions of ubuntu - ie why doesnt firefox 5 appear as an update in 10.04 - why do you have to add a mozilla repo and install from there
[10:17] <rdistorted> giany: comment out in sources.list
[10:17] <ThinkT510> !backports | steveccc
[10:17] <giany> rdistorted: i have some automate tools that install some apps..i cannot manually edit that line :)
[10:17] <ne2k> giany: do you mean how can you stop it being added in the first place, or how can you get rid of it later? why does it matter to you?
[10:18] <theadmin> ne2k: I'm showing how to use a pipe, not how to use grep.
[10:18] <giany> ne2k: stop being added in the first place
[10:18] <ne2k> giany: what exact command did you run, and what did it add?
[10:19] <giany> ne2k: add-apt-repository 'deb http://downloads-distro.mongodb.org/repo/ubuntu-upstart dist 10gen'
[10:19] <giany> it adds two lines
[10:19] <giany> and because of the deb-src when running apt-get update it fails
[10:19] <ne2k> giany: that's very odd, seeing as it isn't even a source repo!
[10:21] <dr_willis> you could just make a script thad adds the line you want
[10:21] <giany> dr_willis: well..seems thats what   i have to do.
[10:21] <dr_willis> that site may not have the deb-src setup right
[10:22] <Fanfare> Q:i added module atl1c to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ath-pci.conf but it still gets loaded after reboot? Kubuntu natty
[10:22] <dr_willis> or write a script to commet out all deb-src lines
[10:22] <thrillERboy> Hi, I'm trying to Install ubuntu under Wubi, it stops loading ubuntu when rebooting into ubuntu for install, Error: saned disabled; edit etc/default/saned
[10:23] <thrillERboy> Please Help :)
[10:23] <ne2k> giany: it appears that apt-add-repository just blindly calls softwareproperties.add_source_from_line, so you'd have to look upstream at that
[10:23] <ne2k> giany: either that or just do it yourself
[10:24] <ne2k> giany: you can make it even easier by just creating files in sources.list.d, rather than editing an existing file
[10:25] <dr_willis> i agree with ne2k   dont touch sources.list
[10:26] <Fanfare> thrillERboy: i don't know wubi, but saned is not systemcritical so just remove it... i don't think its the reason though...
[10:27] <keroro> how can i install nvidia driver from livecd?
[10:27] <dr_willis> keroro:  and use on the live cd system?
[10:27] <keroro> before first run
[10:27] <keroro> no
[10:28] <keroro> just before first run of ubuntu
[10:28] <dr_willis> you eed to remaster your own live cd then
[10:28] <keroro> how?
[10:28] <ThinkT510> keroro: can't you boot in and install the restricted driver then reboot?
[10:28] <Guest24253> Any news on power conservation on laptops.. kernel fixes.. heard some issues in kernel after 2.6.38
[10:28] <dr_willis> !remaster
[10:29] <keroro> ThinkT510, yes i can but i want to do in this way :S
[10:29] <sunit> theadmin: actually I am trying to store the  return value/output of a command in a variable. How can I do that ?
[10:30] <thrillERboy> Thanks Fanfare
[10:30] <Duckfd> sunit, write to and from dev/null  ?
[10:31] <dr_willis> the return value is set to some special bash var. just save it tome other varaible
[10:32] <dr_willis> i forget the var name. i dont bash much these days
[10:32] <ranjan> Hi all, how to enable internet in android emulator when in a proxied environement?
[10:32] <Guest24253> sunit: var=`ls -la`; echo $var
[10:33] <sunit> Duckfd: I am trying to generate a pop up window containing ouput of the shell
[10:33] <sunit> Guest24253: ok
[10:34] <theadmin> sunit: export var=$(COMMAND)
[10:34] <theadmin> sunit: Then, you can access the variable contents by using $var
[10:34] <dr_willis> foo=$(command)  is more readable.
[10:35] <Morgz> anyone got hint to perform a command via ssh on current user session for remote?
[10:35] <theadmin> dr_willis: I think it's best to use export just to be safe
[10:35] <dr_willis> Morgz:  clarify what you need.
[10:36] <Morgz> sorry - I can ssh -X and have vlc play video on local/audio on remote, but i want to run video/audio on remote only.
[10:36] <crshbndct> hey every one
[10:36] <head_victim> crshbndct: dd is a much lower level direct copy, rsync is an incremental backup solution
[10:37] <dr_willis> Morgz:  vlc has cli commands and telnet interface to allow remote contorll of it
[10:37] <dr_willis> Morgz:  and a web interface i think
[10:37] <Morgz> dr_willis - didn't have much luck guessing at the cli, I'll look up telnet/web int - cheers
[10:37] <ne2k> Morgz: to run video on remote, you need to have the X authority right. the vlc cli might be the best thing
[10:37] <dr_willis> vlc --help or its docs...
[10:37] <crshbndct> okay... my thing is that i am trying to use a dvd .iso image to boot from. (its actually a win7 iso but thats neither here nor there)
[10:37] <head_victim> crshbndct: so it really depends on what you want to do. If I wanted to clone a disk for an upgrade I'd probably use dd. If I wanted to backup my home directory using a cron job regularly I'd use rsync.
[10:38] <dr_willis> my android had a ice vlc remote app
[10:38] <dr_willis> nice remote for vlc
[10:38] <theadmin> Heh, does everyone here own an android or what? xD
[10:38] <crshbndct> i tried dd if=/path/to/win7.iso of=/dev/sdb1 and it sort of worked, but i cant boot from it
[10:38] <nemon82> hi... anyone knows how I can turn off keyboard backlights for permanent
[10:39] <theadmin> crshbndct: You need "... of=/dev/sdb"
[10:39] <crshbndct> theadmin: i own an android
[10:39] <theadmin> crshbndct: You dd to a drive, not to a partition... Also I'm not sure Windows can boot from USB
[10:39] <Incarus6> nemon82, using MacBook?
[10:40] <sunit> theadmin: Can you please tell me the steps I should follow ?
[10:40] <crshbndct> okay... but i have two partitions on sdb.. sdb1 is the one i want to boot from, and sdb2 is where i eventually want to install to
[10:40] <nemon82> nope asus laptop... Superkey + f3 or f4 adjust the lights.. but i dont know how to close it permanent for every startup
[10:40] <theadmin> sunit: To do what?
[10:40] <theadmin> crshbndct: Then you can't do this.
[10:40] <theadmin> crshbndct: GRUB2 can boot ISOs. Read up on that.
[10:41] <crshbndct> i mounted the iso image and just copied the files to the sdb1, and it booted from that but i got the 80070570 error so i thought maybe dd could do it for me
[10:41] <Morgz> dr_willis - if I ssh into remote machine and execute a process which uses X, it either ports through to the local (when using -X) or (in this case anyway) it has problems grabbing a display. Can I redirect output to a the currently logged in user?
[10:41] <sunit> to generate the pop up containing output of the shell /
[10:42] <theadmin> sunit: I told you before, it's as simple as "command | xmessage -file -"
[10:42] <theadmin> sunit: And don't forget the - at the end.
[10:43] <dr_willis> Morgz: the x credentials need to be set right. nit x forwarding
[10:43] <sunit> theadmin: yes I know that. but how to use the output of shell as argument ?
[10:43] <sunit> the steps
[10:44] <theadmin> sunit: You make no sense. This should be enough.
[10:44] <dr_willis> Morgz:  xhost + localhost. and export display
[10:44] <Morgz> dr_willis - cheers, I'll look up x credentials.
[10:44] <vuth> theadmin why did u ask about android ?
[10:44] <theadmin> vuth: lol nothing, it's just I own one, dr_willis seems to own one...
[10:44] <Nisstyre> yes
[10:45] <dr_willis> so does my wife..
[10:45] <vuth> oh ok...well it is very popular we had a discusion about this...symbian used to be number 1 but not anymore..android will be taking number 1
[10:45] <sunit> theadmin: Probably I am unable to clear my problem
[10:45] <theadmin> vuth: Yeah.
[10:47] <sunit> when i am giving  "command | xmessage -file -" it only generate a pop up. I am trying to use output of shell in this pop up as notice
[10:47] <jrib> sunit: did you check the syntax for xmessage?
[10:48] <sunit> jrib: yes
[10:48] <theadmin> jrib: That syntax appears to be correct
[10:48] <jrib> sunit: what did it do that you didn't expect?
[10:48] <theadmin> dr_willis: Nice... *sighs*
[10:49] <jrib> sunit: for example "echo foo | xmessage -file -" works fine here
[10:49] <s0mequestions> hello! i've been looking for many hours on how to install the ubuntu server cd on an old pc without keyboard and display, but with network access/dhcp. what i want to achieve is simple: i want to use the normal installer via ssh from another computer. yet i have found no way on how to do it. how is it done, please?
[10:49] <jrib> !install | s0mequestions
[10:49] <jrib> s0mequestions: check there though I don't know if it answers your question
[10:50] <sunit> jrib: no, its working fine
[10:50] <jrib> sunit: so what is your question?
[10:50] <sunit> jrib: but i am trying to use output of shell in this message box as a notice. How can i do that ?
[10:51] <jrib> sunit: what do you mean by "output of shell"?  Give an example.
[10:51] <theadmin> sunit: Are you looking for "notify-send"?
[10:54] <Dougie187> Ok, so apparently there is some bug that makes gnome sessions load up slow. And panel applets are "not found" and docky's docklets don't load up properly. I was curious if anyone knows how to fix it?
[10:54] <Kingsy> how can I install silverlight on ubuntu for FF 5 >
[10:54] <Kingsy> ?*
[10:54] <sunit> jrib: Am I clear to you ?
[10:54] <jrib> Kingsy: install moonlight
[10:55] <Dougie187> just to help, it's this bug
[10:55] <sunit> jrib: for example when I  give  identify -test.jpg , its gives information regarding an image . I am trying to use this output in a message box
[10:55] <Dougie187> https://bugs.launchpad.net/docky/+bug/779752
[10:55] <jrib> sunit: no, I'm not sure what you want.  Is the issue with HOW the message is displayed or WHAT the message being displayed is?=
[10:55] <Kingsy> jrib: I tried on this site. http://go-mono.com/moonlight/ <-- but it says its cant install cos its not compatible with FF 5
[10:56] <jrib> sunit: try this: xmessage $(identify test.jpg)
[10:57] <vaev> hello. how would I best approach installing a single package and its dependencies from oneiric (package that doesn't exist in natty, python3-gobject)?
[10:57] <sunit> jrib: ok , i am trying
[10:57] <Kingsy> jrib: any ideas?
[10:57] <theadmin> jrib: "identify"?
[10:57] <jrib> theadmin: he gave that as an example
[10:57] <ThinkT510> vaev: thats not supported here
[10:57] <theadmin> jrib: Ah, okay
[10:58] <theadmin> !oneric | vaev
[10:58] <sunit> theadmin: identify is the command use by imagemagick -
[10:58] <vaev> ThinkT510, thank you for the info (I'm new to these channels here)
[10:58] <theadmin> sunit: Ah, I see... To identify file formats tho you can very well use "file"
[10:58] <ThinkT510> vaev: no worries :)
[10:59] <Morgz> dr_willis - got xhost going. you also mention export display??
[10:59] <sunit> jrib: imagemagick is image conversion utility
[10:59] <jrib> sunit: ok
[11:00] <nbest>   ThinkT510 , i've been thinking about switching to 11.04 but since there was no tor for lucid , and 11.04 is still quite new are you sure there is a tor for that version?
[11:00] <jrib> Kingsy: click on Download and try the nightly
[11:00] <theadmin> nbest: Compile it from source.
[11:00] <ThinkT510> nbest: yes
[11:00] <theadmin> nbest: That should never cause any problems ;)
[11:00] <ThinkT510> !info tor | nbest
[11:01] <Kingsy> jrib: nightly gives me a Server not found
[11:01] <ThinkT510> theadmin: he has been using linux for 2 days
[11:01] <theadmin> ThinkT510: Ah... Good point lol
[11:01] <nbest>  hahah , right , but i see that it is there
[11:01] <jrib> Kingsy: contact the moonlight community
[11:01] <nbest>  so yea might as well upgrade now i guess
[11:02] <Fanfare> i placed "rmmod atl1c" in /etc/rc.local couse "blacklist atl1c" in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf didn't prevent loading...
[11:02] <Fanfare> atl1c did freeze system when not connected or got disconnected...
[11:02] <nbest>  and it should be easier to install if it's on official repository , so will do
[11:03] <nbest>  i guess i'll see u guys after i upgrade
[11:03] <abhishekb> i dont have net at home is there any way i can install software in office n then install the iso at home
[11:03] <nbest> *crosses fingers*
[11:03] <jrib> sunit: either syntax:  identify test.jpg | xmessage -file -    OR    xmessage $(identify test.jpg)      seems to work fine here.  Does that do what you want?
[11:03] <ThinkT510> nbest: it would probably be better to install afresh (especially if you got nothing to keep from your 2 day install)
[11:04] <nbest>  oh, where is a guide to do that?
[11:04] <ThinkT510> !install | nbest
[11:05] <nbest>  right yea, i'll see about that
[11:05] <nbest>  thanks again, sorry for nooby questions
[11:05] <ThinkT510> nbest: download 11.04 and install like normal (formatting the old install)
[11:05] <ThinkT510> nbest: no worries :)
[11:06] <Kingsy> jrib: cant you install nightly with the repos?
[11:06] <jrib> Kingsy: apt-cache search moonlight
[11:07] <rabbit1> i am unable to find "Add Printer" in 10.10 ? how do i install in a network
[11:09] <theadmin> Ah she/he left
[11:12] <rabbit1> any help to install printer in 10.10 ? unable to find "Add Printer" in the Administrator tab
[11:12] <theadmin> I think CUPS has a web interface, rabbit1
[11:12] <theadmin> !cups | rabbit1
[11:15] <rabbit1> theadmin: i am installing CUPS, thank you
[11:15] <szal> theadmin, rabbit1: http://localhost:631/
[11:18] <theadmin> szal: Thanks. Odd port, as usual.
[11:18] <rabbit1> szal: i got that in my laptop, but not in the server desktop, so printer will be connected to that desktop (server
[11:18] <rabbit1> )
[11:18] <rabbit1> szal: thank you, added on the desktop as well
[11:19] <Cedara> I have a question regarding Unity
[11:19] <iceroot> !ask | Cedara
[11:19] <Incarus6> For everyone interested in Nvidias proprietary driver 280.13 (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=2462436&postcount=5 returns 404), direct link is working: http://www.nvidia.com/content/DriverDownload-March2009/confirmation.php?url=/XFree86/Linux-x86/280.13/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-280.13.run&lang=us&type=Other
[11:20] <theadmin> Incarus6: No need to spam the channel ; nobody asked for such a link.
[11:21] <Cedara> The date and user id in the upper bar in unity is very dark, so that you can't see it when you are not clicking onto it, same goes for a few programmes where I end up not seeing the main menue bar. Is there any way to adjust the upper panel in transparency?
[11:21] <giany> how can i see the version of a packet that is available on a repo?
[11:21] <iceroot> giany: apt-cache policy packagename
[11:21] <iceroot> giany: but run sudo apt-get update  first
[11:22] <creel> sorry, you know where can i see the drivers i have already installed on my machine ?
[11:24] <livingdaylight> hi
[11:25] <livingdaylight> Can someone help me recover my home partition?
[11:25] <semi_afk> !info testdisk
[11:25] <theadmin> livingdaylight: testdisk may be able to, if you mean the partition got in some way damaged, or formatted.
[11:25] <livingdaylight> I am able to log into Ubuntu but screen is only the wallpaper without being able to access any files folders or applications. panel is gone, unity bar is gone
[11:26] <vaev> creel: do you mean by drivers: 1) kernel modules in general 2) 3rd party things like nvidia or ati drivers ?
[11:26] <livingdaylight> theadmin: i suppose that is what is looking likely to have happened and what I mean to do
[11:26] <theadmin> creel, ls -R /usr/lib/modules
[11:26] <creel> yeah sorry i need to know my wi-fi card driver
[11:26] <Lasers> livingdaylight: The good question? What were you doing when that happened?
[11:26] <livingdaylight> theadmin: can you tell me more about testdisc?
[11:27] <creel> thx theadmin
[11:27] <Incarus6> creel, try lsmod
[11:27] <theadmin> livingdaylight: Well, you should look here: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[11:28] <Incarus6> livingdaylight, are you sure that issue is related with your partition?
[11:28] <livingdaylight> thank you theadmin . I am on laptop now running windows. If I burn windows version to disc it will work on Ubuntu Desktop?
[11:29] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: it sounds like you need to reset the unity desktop
[11:29] <theadmin> livingdaylight: Obviously not, you should download the Linux version
[11:29] <livingdaylight> Lasers: FireFox seems to have triggered it. Recently began using Gwibber as a twitter client, Hitting on links triggered launching FF which I don't otherwise usually use (chome user). System froze under FF
[11:29] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: have you tried using a livecd to check if you can mount the partition first
[11:29] <Incarus6> livingdaylight, try to start Ubuntu Classic before playing around with testdisk
[11:29] <Incarus6> !classic | livingdaylight
[11:30] <Incarus6> ThinkT510, obviously not a partition issue, GDM is working properly - just Unity isn't
[11:30] <livingdaylight> Incarus6: tried that already. Same issue, although less flickering of Desktop than Unity and icons on Desktop are stable, Otherwise all is the same in respect to being able to access files or applications
[11:31] <vaev> creel: did you find what you were looking for?
[11:31] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: then you don't need to use testdisk
[11:31] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: did not try that. Using live disc I can mount the partition and access folders?
[11:31] <AdvoWork> any idea where name server information would be held on an ubuntu server?
[11:31] <Incarus6> livingdaylight, can you access files the non-graphical way (ctrl+alt+F1)?
[11:31] <theadmin> AdvoWork: /etc/resolv.conf
[11:31] <theadmin> AdvoWork: Just like usual.
[11:32] <Lasers> livingdaylight: Yeah. Use LiveDisc to access the partitions and make backups. That would be the best choice.
[11:32] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: sure, but it sounds as if unity is just messed up (use a proper destop environment)
[11:32] <creel> mmm, i found a list of drivers but i can't recognize the one i need :/
[11:32] <Incarus6> creel, please paste "lsmod"
[11:33] <creel> Incarus6, http://pastebin.com/XsTtRyFD
[11:33] <livingdaylight> Incarus ctl+alt+F1 has truned my screen black. Command line and endelsss scrolling of numbers with e.d_request : I/0 error, dev sda, sector ******numbers****
[11:33] <AdvoWork> theadmin, that shows nameserver IP  but i mean, what about ns1.domain.co.uk for example?
[11:34] <Lasers> livingdaylight: Your hard drive *could* be dying.
[11:34] <_ruben> livingdaylight: better go out and buy a new hdd then
[11:34] <penquite> Hi all, I am interested to know whether most people using 11.04 use unity or have changed to an alternativ, is there some existing poll on this subject?
[11:34] <theadmin> AdvoWork: Um, you probably need to look up the hostname for that ip...
[11:34] <livingdaylight> just need to recover what was on that hard disc
[11:34] <theadmin> penquite: I use Xfce, it feels like Gnome2. Try it.
[11:34] <ne2k> penquite: unity confused me massively, so I use "classic"
[11:34] <Incarus6> creel, its cfg80211, mac80211, ath9k, ath9k_hw snd ath9k_common . make sure you don't use the 80211 driver and the ath9k driver at the same time
[11:34] <vaev> creel: most common modules for wifi that I've seen are rtl8192*, ath5k, ath9k .. if you find some of those in your lsmod it might be your wifi
[11:35] <livingdaylight> how do I stop the screen, simply reboot?
[11:35] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: ah, now you do need to backup your stuff and get a new drive
[11:35] <creel> ok vaev Incarus6 , thx you very much
[11:35] <ne2k> livingdaylight: if you can boot from a live disk and plug in a second hard disk to copy stuff to, that would be a good idea
[11:36] <ThinkT510> penquite: xfce is my preferred desktop environment (i use xubuntu)
[11:36] <Incarus6> creel, use "lsmod | ath9k"
[11:36] <Incarus6> creel, sry, wrong syntax, use "lsmod | grep ath9k"
[11:37] <theadmin> Incarus6: "wl" is also one of common wi-fi drivers.
[11:37] <creel> Incarus6, yep, thx :)
[11:38] <ozdemir> hello
[11:38] <penquite> Thanks all, I might have a look at Xfce
[11:39] <livingdaylight> theadmin: if hd is dying that disc won't fix the partitions now, will it
[11:39] <livingdaylight> ?
[11:39] <walt> My xubuntu install seems to have broken over the night. I don't get it. The only thing I remember doing yesterday before shutting it off was to install macchanger. GDM is stuck in a loop of trying to log in, showing a black screen with some text for half a second, then back to GDM. Has anyone experienced this?
[11:39] <walt> Xubuntu 10.10
[11:40] <ThinkT510> penquite: just so you know, gnome2 will be replaced with gnome3 in 11.10 (incase that influences your desktop environment choice)
[11:40] <walt> I read about some others having similar problems, and removing .ICEauthority and .Xauthority fixed it. But that did nothing for me
[11:43] <dantu> hi
[11:43] <ozdemir> hi
[11:44] <theadmin> livingdaylight: Obviously not.
[11:44] <dantu> I am new to this , where can I find android help??
[11:44] <theadmin> walt: Probably it just can't start Xfce... There can be a lot of reasons for that.
[11:44] <theadmin> dantu: #android
[11:45] <dantu> #android
[11:45] <dr_willis>  irc basics. :) /join #channelname
[11:45] <dantu> n command is the same ?? join #channelname
[11:45] <dantu> join #android
[11:45] <theadmin> dantu: Type this : /join #android
[11:46] <dantu> : /join #android
[11:46] <walt> theadmin: I have several window managers. None work
[11:46] <walt> theadmin: I usually run xubuntu. I can
[11:46] <walt> theadmin: sorry, Xmonad
[11:46] <theadmin> dantu: Without a colon before it
[11:46] <Cedara> Just a heads-up: I solved my own question by accident - I had to change to ambiance theme to get what I wanted.
[11:46] <dantu> done
[11:46] <dantu> Am I on android now?
[11:46] <walt> theadmin: I can't even get into recovery console. Login in from another tty works though
[11:47] <GirlyGirl> dantu: no
[11:47] <livingdaylight> guys, I've booted up live cd (ubuntu 10.10) but can't access my home folder as i dont' have permission. Can someone tell me how i get the permission so I can transfer files to safety?
[11:47] <dr_willis> walt,  get to console, login, do 'sudo service gdm stop'  then try 'startx' and look for error messages
[11:47] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  use the root account to access them.
[11:47] <dantu> then how? I typed /join #android
[11:47] <theadmin> walt: Okay, that's odd.
[11:47] <theadmin> GirlyGirl: Welcome back!
[11:48] <Slydder1> hey all
[11:48] <GirlyGirl> dantu: whic irc client are you using
[11:48] <ThinkT510> dantu: what irc client are you using?
[11:48] <dr_willis> dantu,  time to check the docs for your irc client.  /join #channelname  NO space befor the /
[11:48] <dantu> XChat 2.8.6
[11:48] <dantu> A multiplatform IRC Client
[11:48] <dantu> Linux 2.6.32-32-generic [i686/1.60GHz/SMP]
[11:48] <dantu> Charset: UTF-8 Renderer: Pango
[11:48] <dantu> Compiled: Apr 24 2010
[11:48] <FloodBot1> dantu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:48] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: root account? could you say more please?
[11:48] <dr_willis> dantu,  theres the menus server -> join channel
[11:48] <ThinkT510> dantu: there is a channel list to your left
[11:49] <dantu> okie
[11:49] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  from a terminal.  use sudo, and/or 'sudo -i' as needed to have full access to you rinstalled system
[11:49] <dr_willis> !sudo
[11:49] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: using terminal how do I get to running Nautilus as root?
[11:50] <theadmin> dr_willis: You should use "| nickname" with factoids to avoid general confusion as to where they are directed.
[11:50] <dr_willis> !gksudo
[11:50] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: gksudo nautilus
[11:50] <dr_willis> theadmin,  im so used to using my phone where i dont even have a | character. :) at home now..
[11:50] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510 | dr_willis thx
[11:50] <theadmin> dr_willis: Can't be that you don't HAVE one... Android, right?
[11:50] <dr_willis> the >< keys dont work on my android either..
[11:51] <dr_willis> the key dosent work on my  bluetoth keyboard for some odd reason.  < > | { } and a few otehrs dont work. or dont exist.
[11:51] <theadmin> dr_willis: You should hit the "SYM" key on your Android phone to find |, < and >
[11:51] <theadmin> dr_willis: As well as some others
[11:52] <dr_willis> theadmin,   its a bluetooth keyboard i am using. Not the onscreen keyboard.
[11:52] <theadmin> dr_willis: That's if you use Swype... Oh.
[11:52] <theadmin> dr_willis: Sorry, didn't notice
[11:52] <dr_willis> the mousepad works on the BT keyboard also on the phone theadmin  which is sort of amuseing. :)
[11:52] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: gksudo nautilus doesn't work from live cd
[11:52] <walt> dr_willis: thanks. That helped me fix it. It was because my HDD was 100% full it seems. I must have had a download running yesterday
[11:52] <walt> interesting
[11:53] <dr_willis> walt,  how big is the HD?
[11:53] <walt> dr_willis: 160gb
[11:53] <theadmin> dr_willis: Well, Swype lets me type almost as fast as a regular QWERTY keyboard so why bother to get a bluetooth keyboard? Expensive, I bet.
[11:53] <walt> dr_willis: but it was at 90% yesterday morning.
[11:53] <dr_willis> theadmin,  $20
[11:53] <walt> dr_willis: and I was moving files around and copying and stuff yesterday
[11:53] <walt> it all wortks now though
[11:53] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: sorry, never tried it from a livecd
[11:53] <walt> thanks for helping me debug
[11:54] <dr_willis> theadmin,  its the size of my phone. with a little touchpad. and a laser pointer built in.   Need to try it on ubuntu someday.
[11:54] <theadmin> dr_willis: The size of your phone? Hm, smallish then...
[11:54] <theadmin> dr_willis: Unless your phone is in some way similar to an iPad
[11:55] <BluesKaj> hey folks
[11:55] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: regarding root. I'm accessing (read - recovering - ) my home partition from a live cd. Do you know how I get root permission from a live cd to access my hd?
[11:56] <theadmin> livingdaylight: su
[11:56] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  gksudo nautilus should work..  i just use the sudo command as needed on the command line. I NEVER run nautilus as root.
[11:56] <theadmin> livingdaylight: Err, "sudo -i", whatever
[11:56] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  this isent an encrypted home is it?
[11:57] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: no, it isn't. just a dying hd of which I'm attemtpting to recover precious files using live cd
[11:57] <theadmin> dr_willis: Hint: "gksu" is shorter to type than "gksudo", yet on Ubuntu they do the same thing.
[11:57] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  mount the filesystem, cd to the directory, sudo cp whatever /media/wherveryouarebackingupto
[11:57] <dr_willis> theadmin,  but then people get trained to think its 'su' they are using  not sudo. :) so i avoid gksu ussage.
[11:58] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: mounting the file system is what I'm trying to figure out how to do? how?
[11:58] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  accessit from the file manager. and it should auto mount.
[11:58] <stevethepirate> 12:26  stevethepirate: 09:16  stevethepirate: Hi, my AAC's (M4A's) are not working, I've grabbed the gstreamer plugins (bad/good/ugly) to no avail.
[11:58] <stevethepirate> 12:26  stevethepirate: 09:18  stevethepirate: "Your GStreamer installation is missing a plugin".
[11:58] <stevethepirate> [in clementine ^^]
[11:58] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  or use the mount command  'sudo mount /dev/sdXX  /mnt'  or whever you want to mount it to.
[11:58] <livingdaylight> theadmin: when I sudo -i, Yes, I become root, but in Nautilus instead of my username after home I see UBUNTU and none of my files
[11:59] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: it is mounting from the file manager but not as root
[11:59] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  you still need to go to the Mounted drive you want to access not your "home" which is the live-users home
[11:59] <theadmin> livingdaylight: That's not the right partiton, look for something like "500GB filesystem" in the left menu
[11:59] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: ah
[12:00] <livingdaylight> theadmin: yes, that is what I did before running root, when it was inaccessible. Now as root I don't see my 500gb disc on the left
[12:01] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: df -h
[12:01] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: that will tell you what is mounted where
[12:01] <theadmin> ThinkT510: The better way is "mount"
[12:02] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: there is nothing in my mnt folder
[12:02] <ThinkT510> theadmin: df -h looks cleaner to me
[12:03] <theadmin> ThinkT510: df is for disk usage.
[12:03] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  that was an example IF you used the mount command. the File manager will mount things to /media/ like it does on a normal install
[12:03] <rabbit1> installed CUPS, printed a document, but now http://localhost:631/admin says "Unable to Connect" all other localhost is working. help please
[12:03] <connelly> so I had some btrfs problems and had to upgrade the kernel to 3.0.0, then I had to reinstall the ATI drivers for my video card(s) and now I get a nasty kernel panic at boot: http://pastebin.com/UMg3jr8Z - anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this or who to talk to? thanks
[12:03] <TITANO> hi all. I am novice to ubuntu and dont understand why i need to install applications. when I build one, why i cannot simple run its main executable file? what does the installation process do exactly?
[12:03] <ThinkT510> theadmin: if the partition is already mounted it will appear there
[12:04] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: noting in media either. Are you saying I have to physically mount it to one of these folders before being able to read it?
[12:04] <dr_willis> TITANO,  if you compile them right.. you can just 'run' them.
[12:04] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  when you click on the disk on the left side.. it mounts  to /media/SOMENAME
[12:04] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  IF the disk is really dieing. it may showup/vanish/or just fail to mount.
[12:04] <OmegaForte> dr_willis, It mounts to it's volume name or UUID
[12:04] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: I can see my folders no problem when I am not root in my file manager, no need for df-h its when I am root that I cannto access my hd
[12:04] <theadmin> !packages | TITANO
[12:05] <dr_willis> TITANO,  its worked for me. if you staticaly compile stuff. but theres always the extra libs that may be the issue.
[12:05] <theadmin> Oh by the way, someone update the !packages factoid to mention the Ubuntu Software Center.
[12:05] <TITANO> thanks for your explanations, but this doesnt answer my questions yet
[12:05] <dr_willis> bbl - gotta go to the garden.
[12:06] <TITANO> if i build a simple QT or GTK+ application, then I go into the folder that contains it, i cannot actually run it
[12:06] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: df -h was just to show you where the partition is mounted so you know where to go when in the root terminal
[12:06] <TITANO> while it works from the 'debug' menu of ajunta or qtcreator
[12:07] <rabbit1> installed CUPS, printed a document, but now http://localhost:631/admin says "Unable to Connect" all other localhost is working. any help ?
[12:07] <TITANO> let me try building and running a simple c file
[12:07] <theadmin> TITANO: Make sure it's marked as executable.
[12:07] <rabbit1> theadmin: CUPS installed, now localhost:163 is not working :(
[12:08] <rabbit1> theadmin: sorry its "localhost:631" is not working
[12:08] <theadmin> rabbit1: Try "sudo service cups start", I suppose.
[12:08] <rabbit1> theadmin: the job is already running
[12:08] <theadmin> rabbit1: Odd...
[12:08] <rabbit1> theadmin: yeap odd
[12:09] <theadmin> rabbit1: Maybe try rebooting the system (if it's not some critically important server, like google.com)... idk
[12:11] <rabbit1> theadmin: what next dude...? very confusing, restarted the system as well
[12:11] <livingdaylight> I don't understand why wen I launch Nautilus I can see my 500gb hd and two other hd's 160gb and 80gb respectively but when I go into Nautilus as root they disappear?
[12:11] <theadmin> rabbit1: Well I'm out of ideas.
[12:11] <theadmin> livingdaylight: GVFS doesn't run as root.
[12:11] <TITANO> doesnt work
[12:11] <livingdaylight> GVFS ?
[12:12] <TITANO> i have created a simple hello world program, built it with gcc
[12:12] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: they are there, look under /media
[12:12] <theadmin> livingdaylight: The thing responsible for Nautilus disk management.
[12:12] <TITANO> and the checked that the file "test.o" were in the folder and executable
[12:12] <dasith> hey
[12:12] <dasith> ppl
[12:13] <jrib> TITANO: please use one line to describe your issue (don't use the enter key to break it up)
[12:13] <rabbit1> theadmin: what if i remove and install cups again ?
[12:13] <Muelli> rabbit1: well. do smth like "ps aux | grep -i cups" to check whether CUPS is indeed running.
[12:13] <livingdaylight> They are not under media ThinkT510, please...
[12:13] <TITANO> and when tried to run it, i got "test.o: command not found" - sorry for the multiline, wont do it again
[12:13] <jrib> TITANO: ./test.o
[12:13] <dasith> hw do u update Nvidia drivers in ubuntu
[12:13] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: what is the output of mount?
[12:14] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: mount what?
[12:14] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: just: mount
[12:14] <rabbit1> Muelli: what should be output of it?
[12:14] <vaev> how does the ubuntu package system work in this case: natty repository has package x version y but another source has package x version y+1.. how does ubuntu (apt) determine which one to use/install?
[12:15] <rabbit1> Muelli: its showing some numbers
[12:15] <theadmin> TITANO, . is usually not in $PATH, so yes, you have to do ./test.o
[12:15] <vaev> how about if it's a distribution default package that should not be overwritten by a newer version? (like gnome2 to gnome3 I assume)
[12:15] <Muelli> rabbit1: you should see at least one line, identifying the process. Paste it somewhere.
[12:15] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: unfortunately, live cd doesn't have irc client, otherwise I could paste you the output. It looks like a lot of garbled information to me though,
[12:15] <rabbit1> Muelli: yes it is
[12:16] <Muelli> rabbit1: next, I'd do a "sudo netstat -tulpen" and search for the CUPS process. It should have openend a listening TCP socket.
[12:16] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: put it on pastebin and give the link here
[12:16] <jrib> vaev: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html read about how version numbers are compared.  Unless you have some sort of apt rule setup, the greater version will be chose
[12:16] <vaev> jrib: thanks. will have a read
[12:16] <rabbit1> Muelli:  netstat-tulpen command not found ...
[12:17] <bastidrazor> rabbit1: you missed the space
[12:17] <Muelli> rabbit1: just reread what I've written
[12:17] <rabbit1> Muelli: sorry, yeah right
[12:18] <jrib> TITANO: when you type a COMMAND in your shell, it searches the contents of your $PATH (echo $PATH to check it out).  Since, as theadmin pointed out, '.' is not in the default $PATH, your shell can't find test.o
[12:18] <rabbit1> Muelli: no, its not
[12:18] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: http://pastebin.com/BSTOUp3B
[12:18] <rabbit1> Muelli: it's not listening....
[12:18] <dr_willis> TITANO,  http://www.linuxheadquarters.com/howto/basic/path.shtml
[12:19] <Muelli> rabbit1: that's weird then. Paste the output somewhere.
[12:19] <TITANO> can you see other's notice? i didnt know
[12:19] <connelly> so I had some btrfs problems and had to upgrade the kernel to 3.0.0, then I had to reinstall the ATI drivers for my video card(s) and now I get a nasty kernel panic at boot: http://pastebin.com/UMg3jr8Z - anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this or who to talk to? thanks
[12:19] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: i can't see it, unknown paste id
[12:19] <Pici> TITANO: No, notices are private. Best to just tell the channel that you understand, that way we all know to stop helping.
[12:19] <Muelli> connelly: I'd remove the module.
[12:19] <rabbit1> Muelli: ok, it usually should be in "127.0.0.1:631 " I don't find this at all in the list
[12:20] <theadmin> TITANO: Notices are bad ideas, either /query or just tell inside the channel
[12:21] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510 maybe it was a 'zero' instead of an 'O' ? http://pastebin.com/BST0Up3B
[12:21] <ThinkT510> connelly: that isn't really supported here
[12:21] <Muelli> rabbit1: that's weird then. Paste the output somewhere.
[12:21] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: thanks
[12:21] <dr_willis> connelly,  if you really must have the 3.0 kernel - you may want to try the next release its in alpha testing right now.  so watch out.
[12:21] <juliohm> Hi, can you here me?
[12:21] <TITANO> ok, thanks - i misunderstood the colors of this chat client then. it must highlight the lines with my nick in it
[12:22] <thrillERboy> Hi, I have installed ubuntu under wine, I get Error when booting into ubuntu, it fails saying "saned disabled: edit etc/default/saned" How do I clear that? I faced the same problem with install screen, but when I booted under ACPI workaround mode, it worked. How Do I fix this? Thanks.
[12:22] <juliohm> Hi, can you hear* me?
[12:22] <dr_willis> TITANO,  yep. thats common feature for irc clients
[12:22] <dr_willis> juliohm,  we see you. :)
[12:22] <juliohm> thank you dr_willis :)
[12:22] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: /dev/sdc1 and /dev/sdd1 are both mounted under media
[12:22] <rabbit1> Muelli: http://pastebin.com/f142tE7w
[12:22] <TITANO> eh, the irc client i was using before, from the 80's, didnt :D
[12:22] <rabbit1> Muelli: printer_cups is the name
[12:23] <juliohm> Someone could give me an advice about Gnome 3? I'm really divided in install Arch+Gnome3 or Ubuntu+Unity, what do you recommend and why?
[12:23] <Muelli> rabbit1: and can you paste the ps aux?
[12:23] <dr_willis> I seem to recall ircII that i used in the 80's did.. but i also rember IRCing from a greenbar printing terminal.
[12:23] <dr_willis> or was it just 'IRC I' back then. :) heh.  been so long.
[12:23] <Muelli> juliohm: you can use GNOME3 on Ubuntu :-)
[12:23] <dr_willis> juliohm,  next release of ubuntu will hve gnome3 as an option.
[12:24] <rabbit1> Muelli: "ligature 5003 0.0 0.0 8952 888 pts/0 S+ 17:44 0:00 grep --color=auto -i cups"
[12:24] <rabbit1> Muelli: "cups" is in red color
[12:24] <OmegaForte> dr_willis, God I hope not. I have enough issues with emerald now..
[12:24] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: I can access both my 80 and 160 gb partitions which are more like external hd's for backing up. What I can't access is my actual ubuntu install with my home
[12:24] <Muelli> rabbit1: so it's not running.
[12:24] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: do you know what disk it is on?
[12:24] <Muelli> rabbit1: do smth like "sudo service cups restart" and pastebin us the output
[12:25] <juliohm> dr_willis, i know, but for now, do you recommend Gnome 3? It's a good experience?
[12:25] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: I think it would be /dev/sda ?
[12:25] <tyler_d1> how do you get 3d support to work with a dual intel/nvidia card (laptop). I have installed hte new drivers and tried "switchable and descrete" however no matter what setting the xorg.conf does not load properly with an error relating to not being able to find the screen?
[12:25] <TITANO> I'm happy, things seem more rational now
[12:25] <rabbit1> Muelli: i did that before, but had to ctrl C it cos taking lot of time with no output
[12:25] <aetas> livingdaylight, whats the problem?
[12:25] <G0R> juliohm: I currently run Arch with Gnome 3 and I'm still undecided.  If Gnome improves I will stay with it, if not....
[12:25] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: launch gparted to find out exactly which partition it is
[12:26] <Muelli> rabbit1: yeah, that's not supposed to be. So do it but don't press Ctrl+C.
[12:26] <nyankipz> i need more space on my windows parition. How successful is taking space from an ubuntu parition and adding it to a windows one. IE what are the odds of dataloss?
[12:26] <tyler_d1> as well I note that nvidia-xconfig is not found :(
[12:26] <rabbit1> Muelli: I am still waiting ....... no result, since your last suggestion
[12:26] <OmegaForte> nyankipz, Extent is a fully journalized partition. It's fine. Just leave atleast 20% freespace.
[12:26] <Muelli> rabbit1: so what does it read? Pastebin us the actual output that you've gotten so far.
[12:26] <OmegaForte> s/partition/filetable
[12:26] <ThinkT510> aetas: he is trying to backup his install from a livecd because his disk is dying
[12:27] <juliohm> G0R, good to hear from a user already. :)
[12:27] <Benkinooby> !off-topic
[12:27] <nyankipz> awesome thanks Omega force
[12:27] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: Nautilus would identify my hd's by teh gb size, but as root in nautilus one is 60241F167ADECD08 and that is empty? the other one is A3EB-B775 and that I can see read and access in Nautilus without root priviledges
[12:27] <aetas> ThinkT510, ah, ok
[12:27] <juliohm> G0R, could i talk in pvt with you?
[12:28] <G0R> juliohm: sure, not sure how much help i can be though
[12:28] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: it would  be nice if live cd's came with both gparted and an irc client, but they don't
[12:28] <rabbit1> Muelli: no luck still.....................
[12:28] <Muelli> rabbit1: so what does it read? Pastebin us the actual output that you've gotten so far.
[12:28] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: what livecd are you using?
[12:29] <aetas> livingdaylight, so install one
[12:29] <dr_willis> Hmm. theres an IRC client on the live cd.. and i thought gparted was on it.. or you can just apt-get install it..
[12:29] <rabbit1> Muelli: its says noting......
[12:29] <theadmin> dr_willis: GParted is on the livecd
[12:29] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: 10.10
[12:29] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: xchat and gparted are both on them
[12:29] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  you may want to check out the actual 'gparted' live cd also. It boots faster then the ubuntu live cd. smaller download also. and some extra tools for disk   manipulation
[12:30] <rabbit1> Muelli: gtg . thanks a lot for the help, let me check out tomorrow. got some work now. Also will try removing and getting it back and check. What you suggest?
[12:30] <Muelli> sure rabbit1. It won't do any harm
[12:30] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: good, I will look at that. I am snookered for now. I can't figure out how to access my ubuntu install home files using ubuntu live cd
[12:31] <MaximumResults> Hi
[12:31] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: where?
[12:31] <ThinkT510> dr_willis: i find partedmagic better
[12:31] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: have you looked?
[12:31] <MaximumResults> I'm trying to get my sound working. My microphone isn't working. When I run the "Sound Recorder"  Nothing records.
[12:32] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: yes
[12:32] <thrillERboy> Hi, I have installed ubuntu under wine, I get Error when booting into ubuntu, it fails saying "saned disabled: edit etc/default/saned" How do I clear that? I faced the same problem with install screen, but when I booted under ACPI workaround mode, it worked. How Do I fix this? Thanks. I cannot login to ubuntu, but I have live cd with me. Please help.
[12:32] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: type xchat from a terminal
[12:32] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: why do yoiu say xchat and gparted are on 10.10 live cd?
[12:32] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: because they are
[12:32] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: it might be the lighter xchat-gnome
[12:33] <GirlyGirl> thrillERboy: How can you install Ubuntu unser wine??
[12:33] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  it may be time to learn some bash basics I guess..  its not really that complex.
[12:33] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: they are not on my version of Ubuntu 10.10 live cd
[12:33] <aetas> GirlyGirl, he can't, he probably means wubi
[12:33] <thrillERboy> GirlyGirl: Sorry, my bad, under wubi.
[12:33] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: are you certain you are using the 10.10 cd?
[12:33] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: tell me.
[12:34] <thrillERboy> Hi, I have installed ubuntu under wubi, I get Error when booting into ubuntu, it fails saying "saned disabled: edit etc/default/saned" How do I clear that? I faced the same problem with install screen, but when I booted under ACPI workaround mode, it worked. How Do I fix this? Thanks. I cannot login to ubuntu, but I have live cd with me. Please help.
[12:34] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  wheres the home dir mounted to?
[12:34] <thrillERboy> hey aetas older wubi crash was permanenet, I lost those disk files.
[12:35] <aetas> blah
[12:35] <ThinkT510> dr_willis: it isn't: here is his mount output: http://pastebin.com/BST0Up3B
[12:35] <thrillERboy> This time, I've setup backup ;) aetas
[12:35] <ThinkT510> dr_willis: he says his install is on sda
[12:35] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: I've not mounted the home directory anywhere. It doesn't appear to show up when I do df- h as ThinkT510 has shown you
[12:36] <rizzuh> Why do Synaptic and Software Center insist on me installing either Chormium or Firefox? I can't get rid of browsers I don't use.
[12:36] <aetas> thrillERboy, heh good :)
[12:36] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: actually that was the output for mount not df -h
[12:37] <ThinkT510> dr_willis: i'm trying to get him to launch gparted but he insists it doesn't exist on the 10.10 livecd (i know it does)
[12:37] <aetas> thrillERboy, what video card out of curiosity?
[12:38] <thrillERboy> aetas: ATI
[12:38] <thrillERboy> I have ATI on the one I'm chatting from as well, this works without any problem aetas
[12:38] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: when I do df- h I can see my 500 gb ubuntu insallation hd. It is mounted on /media/973d5869-cd6e-46c3-8cc6-84c05801b0a3
[12:39] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: are you looking at ubuntu 10.10 live now as we speak?
[12:39] <thrillERboy> How do I boot into Ubuntu with ACPI workaround mode
[12:39] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  so it is at /media/973dxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx then?
[12:40] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: that is what df- h is saying
[12:40] <aetas> thrillERboy, so how'd you install it if you can't get it to boot?
[12:40] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: no but i have used it myself and i know it has gparted
[12:40] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  so if you 'cd /media/973<hit the tab key to fill in the name'  you should be in the directory
[12:41] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: http://pastebin.com/MnjkdGdp
[12:41] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: I'm doing this as root, right? and then?
[12:42] <aetas> thrillERboy, don't suppose its a laptop is it?
[12:42] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: I'd love it if you would check 10.10 live cd now. You'll find it is not there
[12:42] <thrillERboy> aetas: When I ran wubi and restarted and booted into ubuntu to complete the installation, it didn't work as well, but when loading there was an option to select different boot modes, which I activated by pressing Esc. Then under that Normal and Safe graphics mode did not work, but When I chose ACPI work around mode, it worked.
[12:43] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  bash basics..  the 'ls' command lists files.. run ls.. do you see some dirs?
[12:43] <thrillERboy> its HP lapto aetas
[12:43] <thrillERboy> HP laptop
[12:43] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: yup, I see home in blue
[12:44] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  so cd into that dir.... 'cd home'
[12:44] <rizzuh> Why do Synaptic and Software Center insist on me installing either Chormium or Firefox? I can't get rid of browsers I don't use.
[12:44] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  then cd into your users named dir. whatever that is..
[12:44] <thrillERboy> I think, If I figureout a way to boot using ACPI work around mode, then I can login to UBUNTU without issues.
[12:44] <duga> rizzuh: try from command line: apt-get or dpkg
[12:44] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: yup I got the idea and did that already and I am now in my home/username/folders
[12:45] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: if i could just copy them somewhere safe now? :s
[12:45] <aetas> thrillERboy, have you tried booting with acpi=off?
[12:45] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  now you use  the cp command to whaver you want..
[12:45] <thrillERboy> Going to Recovery mode also makes it hang. same problem saned disabled.
[12:45] <thrillERboy> :(
[12:45] <thrillERboy> how to do it aetas ? I haven't tried it? I think it will work, but how should I do it?
[12:45]  * thrillERboy runs to google
[12:46] <aetas> thrillERboy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Main%20Start%20Page%20Options
[12:47] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: if the other backup hd on my computer mounted as /media/A3EB-B775 would I then just for e.g. cp /Documents /media/A3EB-B775 ?
[12:47] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  should i point out that UbuntuOne now gives you 5GB of storage :)
[12:47] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  somthing like that.. but you will want to use the 'recursive' option for cp.
[12:47] <dr_willis>  -R, -r, --recursive          copy directories recursively
[12:48] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: that's nice to know, although I'm dealing iin mega gb storage here :s. So, you're saving my bacon here
[12:48] <rizzuh> duga: that works, but it doesn
[12:48] <rizzuh> duga: doen't answer why those tools insist on install another browser.
[12:48] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,   you can buy more space. :) 5gb is big enough for my imporntant stuff.
[12:49] <Guest30065> could someone explain how hibernation works?
[12:49] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: re recursive option is that in case there are other directories inside, for e.g. Documents folder that would otherwise not get copied over using the simple 'cp' command?
[12:49] <Guest30065> I noticd when I close my lit, it hibernates
[12:50] <ThinkT510> Guest30065: you can change that in the power settings
[12:50] <jnsl_> Could a broken battery with only 20% cause in overheating when the laptop is plugged in ?
[12:50] <Guest30065> but how does it work?
[12:50] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: so, cp -r Documents /media/A3EB-B775 ?
[12:51] <ThinkT510> Guest30065: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibernation_(computing)
[12:51] <vaev> Guest30065: your computer state is stored in hard disk. to be read and resumed when you restart your computer
[12:52] <livingdaylight> not sure what the 'recursive' option does ?
[12:52] <Guest30065> and where does this particular flavor of hibernation store the data?
[12:52] <dr_willis>  -R, -r, --recursive          copy directories recursively   (and files of course)
[12:52] <dr_willis> ie: copys everything
[12:53] <livingdaylight> everything opposed to? only some of it?
[12:53] <dr_willis> try it and see...
[12:53] <ThinkT510> Guest30065: usually your swap partition (or a swap file)
[12:53] <dr_willis> if you got any sub dirs livingdaylight  normal cp wont get them
[12:53] <Guest30065> does that imply that swap needs to be at least ram size plus a little more?
[12:53] <ThinkT510> Guest30065: yes
[12:54] <livingdaylight> dr_willis try what? the example I showed you? : cp -r Documents /media/A3EB-B775
[12:54] <TA5K> wow they sold more linux games than Mac?! http://www.humblebundle.com/
[12:54] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: what is teh difference between the small 'r' and the big 'R' that confuses me
[12:54] <Pici> !ot | TA5K
[12:55] <Guest30065> ok, what part of the kernel tells the laptop to do the hibernation?
[12:55] <GOMI> i got this exclamation mark in my corner screen it says "update information is outdated"  but when i click on it and search he founds NOTHING ??
[12:55] <Guest30065> and, if userland is also involved, what userland programs
[12:55] <GOMI> its second time now i got that
[12:55] <theadmin> livingdaylight: No difference.
[12:56] <livingdaylight> theadmin: cool
[12:56] <theadmin> livingdaylight: Well not in this command anyway
[12:56] <theadmin> livingdaylight: Sometimes there is.
[12:56] <borisddd> hi all :) i experience problems with evolution , from few days it's almost unusable , does anyone know how to fix
[12:57] <dr_willis> http://ubuntugeek.tradepub.com/free/w_mach02/       bash 'book' in pdf format livingdaylight
[12:57] <livingdaylight> theadmin: doh ><
[12:58]  * theadmin uses zsh instead of bash, and finds it fine.
[12:59] <dr_willis> 'fish' an interesting shell to try out sometime also
[12:59] <banished> Hi, in Skype my webcam just shows a black image, but everywhere else (e.g. cheese) it works fine.
[12:59] <theadmin> banished: Blame Skype, this isn't an Ubuntu issue. We can't help you.
[12:59] <ThinkT510> banished: skype is closed source so we can't help
[13:00] <rileyp> how can I downgrade a repo
[13:00] <banished> I thought this would be some known issue that could be fixed somehow…
[13:00] <ThinkT510> rileyp: sounds dangerous
[13:00] <rileyp> I want to use the jya mythtv repo not the fixes repo
[13:00] <Guest30065> you'd need control over that repo
[13:01] <rileyp> I have removed teh mythbuntu repo and mythfrontend and added teh jya repo
[13:01] <Guest30065> probably you edit your sources.list
[13:01] <dr_willis> rileyp,  you can change repos to whatver one you want.. but the term 'downgrade a repo' seems.. incorrect.
[13:02] <dr_willis> remove apps from the problem repo. add a new repo. install the apps.
[13:02] <theadmin> banished: We don't support Microsoft products at all... You know
[13:02] <Guest30065> yeah, I understood "downgrade a repo" to mean something you weren['t asking about
[13:02] <greyfiend> hey I'm having periodic mouse freezing on 11.04 studio, mouse doesn't move but I can still use the keyboard, freeze lasts about 5 secs and happens every few minutes, any suggestions? is there a log file i should look at?
[13:03] <rileyp> well i just want to use the jya mythtv repo and not fixes
[13:03] <Pici> theadmin: skype is in the partner repositories
[13:03] <theadmin> Pici: Oh... Sorry then
[13:03] <dr_willis> for now. :)
[13:03] <rileyp> I have added the jya repo and key and
[13:03] <rileyp> removedth other
[13:03] <Pici> !enter
[13:09] <greyfiend> anyone know where to find a log file that might show mouse errors?
[13:10] <theadmin> greyfiend: I think that'd be the Xorg log, after all that's pretty much the only thing using a mouse.
[13:11] <theadmin> greyfiend: I'm just shooting the sky here tho
[13:12] <greyfiend> theadmin: thanks i'll check that out
[13:13] <greyfiend> dmesg shows: 'TouchPad at isa0060/serio4/input0 lost sync at byte 1' could this be realated to mouse freezes?
[13:14] <theadmin> greyfiend: Common sense tells me that it could.
[13:14] <JediMaster> hi all, I've just installed natty on to my new netbook, samsung nc210, everything is working great apart from the display backlight dimming, if I use the keyboard shortcut to change the brightness the ubuntu onscreen bar comes up and it goes up and down but the screen itself doesn't change brightness, any ideas on a fix?
[13:15] <greyfiend> theadmin: I came to the same conclusion
[13:18] <thrillERboy> Hi, I've added flag noacpi noapic nolapic break=init flags to boot menu and pressed ctrl+x to boot, still I can't boot into Login screen or desktop. cc: aetas
[13:19] <thrillERboy> Boot flags can be added without hyphens right? I mean without "-" s
[13:20] <theadmin> thrillERboy: They should be added without hyphens.
[13:20] <theadmin> thrillERboy: You can try booting into a very recovery mode by adding "init=/bin/bash"
[13:22] <vaev> greyfiend: do you by chance use a ps2 mouse in the computer in question and have do you by chance touch the touchpad while moving the mouse at the same time when the error occurs?
[13:23] <greyfiend> vaev: no, error occurs with and without an external mouse plugged in.
[13:24] <thrillERboy> I think, I'm doing something wrong, when boot selection menu appears, I press e and enter edit boot options mode, then I add those flags at the end, and then I press ctrl+x to boot, still it behaves same :(
[13:24] <vaev> greyfiend: sounds like a misbehaving touchpad or a bug in the driver then.. you might want to check out http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/376 too if it's of help
[13:24] <ionite> Hi guys.  Would 10.4 be more stable than 11.04?
[13:24] <thrillERboy> theadmin: with init=/bin/bash also behaves same :(
[13:24] <ThinkT510> ionite: it is supported longer
[13:24] <greyfiend> vaev: thanks i'll do that
[13:24] <dr_willis> thrillERboy,  you are not putting options after the last -- (if it exists) are you?
[13:25] <ionite> ThinkT510: what do u mean?
[13:25] <ThinkT510> !lts | ionite
[13:25] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: so far so good! a bit of Bash and bob's my uncle, lol
[13:25] <ionite> ThinkT510: what do u mean support 3 years?
[13:26] <ThinkT510> ionite: recieves updates
[13:26] <ionite> ThinkT510: i feel my current 11.04 is alittle laggy & slow andbuggy on my old system. is it my system or the OS itself?
[13:26] <theadmin> thrillERboy: init=/bin/bash should give you a recovery shell.
[13:26] <Vustom> Can someone help me out with a problem I'm having using a Proxy on my Ubuntu PC? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1816509
[13:26] <theadmin> thrillERboy: Operate from it.
[13:26] <b0ot> When you do a copy and it fails because you have a symbolic link... does the copy stop at that point or does it just not do the symbolic link and then continue copying files [used cp -r]
[13:26] <ionite> ThinkT510: overall i think 11.04 is gd but how why is it laggy & buggy?
[13:26] <theadmin> thrillERboy: If you need read-write filesystem access, do "mount -o remount,rw /"
[13:27] <ThinkT510> ionite: unity is fairly new, i don't use it and stick with xfce
[13:27] <ionite> ThinkT510: banshee player is quite buggy. so 10.4 will be less buggy & faster?
[13:28] <ThinkT510> ionite: faster? i'm not sure about, but the lts releases are designed to be more stable
[13:28] <dr_willis>         linux   /vmlinuz-3.0.0-7-generic root=UUID=f9be3626-21a2-4f40-ab50-f133ee41d13c ro init=/bin/bash      would be close to what he neds theadmin ?
[13:28] <ionite> ThinkT510: so ure using 10.4?
[13:29] <ThinkT510> ionite: xubuntu 11.04
[13:29] <ionite> ThinkT510: after all the updates till now, when i switch from window to window or tab to tab there are seconds delay.
[13:29] <ThinkT510> ionite: i don't like unity or gnome
[13:29] <dr_willis> ThinkT510,  if you want 'lighter/faster' but less features = try lubuntu./
[13:29] <ionite> what's xubuntu?
[13:29] <dr_willis> xubuntu = ubuntu + xfce
[13:29] <ThinkT510> !xubuntu | ionite
[13:30] <mnieper___> Does anyone know by chance where gdm selects the "unity" profile of compiz when I ask for a unity session?
[13:30] <ionite> ThinkT510: it's for low specs comp. so hope it'll work out for my low specs comp.
[13:30] <mnieper___> Due to some error here, the Standard profile (which does not include the unity plugin) is always loaded regardless of session.
[13:30] <ThinkT510> dr_willis: i've tried lxde, its not half bad but just doesn't seem as uniform as xfce
[13:30] <dr_willis> mnieper___,  gdm gets the desktop sessionf from various 'foo.desktop' files with the commands to run
[13:30] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: using -R option will the system skip over any pre-existing files or directories of the same name?
[13:31] <dr_willis>  livingdaylight  never noticed.. try it and see.
[13:31] <mnieper___> @dr_willis: Thanks... can you point me at the directory of the .desktop files?
[13:31] <dr_willis> make a dir with 3 files. try it.
[13:31] <dr_willis> mnieper___,  'locate gnome.desktop' finds them at -  /usr/share/xsessions/gnome.desktop
[13:32] <dr_willis> mnieper___,  there may be other dirs it looks in
[13:33] <ionite> ThinkT510: xubuntu and ubuntu what's the diff?
[13:34] <mina2> my usb 3g modem doesnt work
[13:34] <theadmin> mina2: You need usb_modeswitch for those to work.
[13:34] <mina2> it has macos drivers can i install them in ubuntu
[13:34] <mnieper___> Found "gnome.desktop" (and thanks for pointing out 'locate'!). There it simply says to start gnome-session with the session=ubuntu parameter. I guess this means /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions/ubuntu.session.
[13:34] <mnieper___> In that file, however, no compiz profile is loaded.
[13:35] <theadmin> mina2: No.
[13:35] <ionite> hey guys! what's the diff between Ubuntu & Xbuntu?
[13:35] <theadmin> ionite: Xubuntu uses XFCE.
[13:35] <ThinkT510> ionite: ubuntu uses unity xubuntu uses xfce
[13:35] <theadmin> ionite: Ubuntu uses Gnome/Unity.
[13:35] <Ludite> would this be the appropriate forum to post an rsync ssh question ??
[13:35] <theadmin> Ludite: Possibly, if it runs on Ubuntu.
[13:36] <Ludite> it does,
[13:36] <theadmin> Ludite: Then go ahead.
[13:36] <ionite> ThinkT510: so it's like just the appearance is different only?
[13:37] <ionite> theadmin: gnome and xfce what's the diff?
[13:37] <ThinkT510> ionite: just the desktop environment is different
[13:37] <theadmin> ionite: ...
[13:37] <DarKMode> guys
[13:37] <Ludite> I have an NSLU2 running lenny 5.0 i use rsync via ssh to backup my home directory to it.  I  have been using passwordless ssh successfully to backup to the server but i managed to break the process. now when the scripot executes its asking for a password and i'm not sure how to fixz this.
[13:37] <bazhang> Ludite, #debian for that
[13:37] <DarKMode> i have some problem setting /etc/network/interfaces
[13:38] <livingdaylight> how do I copy a particular file over instead of an entire directory?
[13:38] <ThinkT510> ionite: you can install whatever you like in both (they use the same repos)
[13:38] <DarKMode> to auto connect
[13:38] <ionite> ThinkT510: i'm using ubuntu now. maybe it's my comp it's quite laggy. would XFCE change that?
[13:38] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  check 'man cp' theres dozaens of options
[13:38] <theadmin> livingdaylight: Huh? cp /path/to/source /path/to/target
[13:38] <mina2> theadmin: usb_modeswitch? ty searching for it
[13:38] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  overwrite may be the default.
[13:38] <thrillERboy> thanks theadmin dr_willis I still have the prob, gotta run.. have to catch a train. Will come later, thanks a ton :)
[13:38] <livingdaylight> I'm getting error messages when I simply use 'cp' command
[13:38] <dr_willis> cp -i foo bar   may ask..
[13:39] <ThinkT510> ionite: i can't say for sure, what i can say is that unitu is new (and likely more buggy) xfce has been stable for years
[13:39] <livingdaylight> cp: omitting directory 'Feldenkreis/'
[13:39] <ThinkT510> unity
[13:39] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  you are using the -R option?
[13:39] <theadmin> livingdaylight: To copy directories, use cp -R
[13:39] <ionite> ThinkT510: alright. change! btw, how i can run EXE files in xfce? install wine?
[13:39] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: tried with and without 'R
[13:39] <ThinkT510> ionite: yes in wine or a windows vm
[13:40] <ThinkT510> ionite: but it is better to find linux alternatives
[13:40] <ionite> ThinkT510: what do u mean linux alternatives?
[13:40] <ionite> ThinkT510: so i d/l the 11.04 LTS?
[13:41] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: sorry, losing my mind.
[13:41] <ThinkT510> ionite: 10.04 is lts, 11.04 is not lts
[13:41] <DarKMode> auto lo
[13:41] <DarKMode> iface lo inet loopback
[13:41] <DarKMode> auto wlan0
[13:41] <DarKMode> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[13:41] <DarKMode> wireless-essid "Corcoll"
[13:41] <DarKMode> wireless-key s:CCARACAS2011
[13:41] <FloodBot1> DarKMode: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:41] <ionite> ThinkT510: so 11.04 xfce is it buggy? does it uses banshee?
[13:42]  * Guest30065 thinks floodbot1 has a loose clock hand
[13:42] <ThinkT510> ionite: you can install banshee if you want, but it isn't installed by default
[13:42] <ThinkT510> ionite: i've used xfce for years, its very stable for me
[13:42] <ionite> ThinkT510: what's the default player in xfce? would it have any probs with nomodeset in ubuntu?
[13:43] <ThinkT510> ionite: you can install things from the repo, i prefer vlc and audacious
[13:44] <ThinkT510> ionite: i think gmusicbrowser is the default (i've never used it though)
[13:44] <ionite> ThinkT510: alright i'm switching to XFCE. GNOME/UNITY is gd but too buggy or slow for my lousy comp.
[13:44] <Guest30065> oic, my client took away the nick on all but the first line
[13:44] <dr_willis>       ionite  nomdeset is at a lower level of the OS then Xfce, or lxde, or gnome.
[13:45] <dr_willis> ionite,  lxde/lubuntu is the lightest, then xfce/xubuntu , then gnome/unity/kde are the big daddies.
[13:45] <ionite> dr_willis: so as long as it's ubuntu based i'll face nomodeset prob?
[13:45] <dr_willis> ionite,   i found in 11.10 i did not have to mess with nomodeset for my nvidia cards. :)
[13:45] <ThinkT510> ionite: depends on your graphics card
[13:45] <dr_willis> ionite,  ive no idea what your nomodeset problem is.
[13:46] <ionite> dr_willis: it's solved finally. but i guess my p4 can't run unity properly. as it's quite laggy. i'm gonna switch. but i've got no idea which 1 should i swtich
[13:46] <ThinkT510> ionite: lxde is very light and snappy
[13:46] <dr_willis> ionite,  you can install them all to a single machine and just pick what to use at the gdm login
[13:46] <GirlyGirl> ionite: perhaps kde, it is developed to adapt as per system
[13:47] <ionite> dr_willis: really?
[13:47] <ThinkT510> GirlyGirl: kde4 wouldn't run smoothly on a system that struggles with unity
[13:47] <dr_willis> ionite,  of course...
[13:47] <schnuffle> KDE is way to heavy for an old PC
[13:47] <GirlyGirl> ionite: I would say LXDE is a bit too light for p4, more like for older celerons
[13:47] <ionite> GirlyGirl: kde what's it?
[13:47] <dr_willis> I use lxde + awn or some other fancy docs
[13:47] <dr_willis> !kde
[13:48] <coz_> ionite,   what ghz  is your P4?
[13:48] <ionite> dr_willis: so means i'll have several desktop environment but simply based on the same system files?
[13:48] <dr_willis> ionite,  you got it. they are just a layer above the system.
[13:48] <ionite> coz_: 3.0
[13:48] <coz_> ionite,   ok that should be fine,, I am running a 2.8  on this system...
[13:49] <ionite> dr_willis: coz_ GirlyGirl ThinkT510 there are so many desktop environments. how do i know which one is the most suitable for me?
[13:49] <schnuffle> ionite: The problem is not the CPU power it's more the graphics that pose a problem
[13:49] <coz_> ionite,   open a terminal and paste this command      lspci | grep -i vga
[13:49] <ThinkT510> ionite: i can only say try them and see
[13:49] <schnuffle> ionite: best is to try them :)
[13:50] <ThinkT510> ionite: i ended up liking xfce best
[13:50] <guesy> my Ubuntu Machine has a tomcat server running. I am not able to access this tomcat server from an other machine on the network. can someone please help
[13:50] <ionite> coz_: GirlyGirl : ThinkT510 : dr_willis : I just want something that's not buggy like my current GNOME/UNITY ubuntu, it's snappy and run a exe file.
[13:50] <GirlyGirl> ionite: see my pm
[13:51] <coz_> ionite,   I am sure its been suggested that you could just log into the classic session
[13:51] <schnuffle> ionite: I've a old P4 runing Unity without a problem. But I had to buy a 40 euro graphic card
[13:51] <dr_willis> ionite,  start installing and try them out.
[13:51] <ThinkT510> ionite: runninng exe's has nothing to do with the desktop environment
[13:51] <diwic> argh!
[13:51] <ThinkT510> ionite: you can install wine on any desktop environment
[13:51] <dr_willis> ionite,  we are not even mentioning the dozens+ of other window managers that exist out there.
[13:52] <coz_> ionite,  out of curiosity,, open a terminal     type or copy paste this command      lspci | grep -i vga
[13:52] <dr_willis> You could roll your own 'desltop' if you wanted to.
[13:52] <dr_willis> desktop :)
[13:52] <ionite> coz_: 00:06.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5500] (rev a1) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]
[13:52] <schnuffle> ionite: If you want to check them out just get a 8GB usb stick and create a multi boot env with YUMI. So you can run all different Desktop Env without installing
[13:52] <GirlyGirl> ionite: see my pm
[13:52] <coz_> ionite,  ok the fx5500  is most likely what is giving you issues
[13:53] <ionite> coz_:  dr_willis GirlyGirl  ThinkT510 schnuffle: i've only got a 256MB graphics. so any recommendations?
[13:53] <b0ot> Can I change from lxde to gnome with ubuntu 10.04
[13:53] <ThinkT510> !pm GirlyGirl
[13:53] <dr_willis> ionite,  start installing.. try them...
[13:53] <coz_> ionite,    you could log into classic, or as already suggested ,  install xubuntu-desktop and log into that
[13:53] <ThinkT510> !pm | GirlyGirl
[13:53] <dr_willis> b0ot,  you can install lubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop both at the same time..
[13:53] <ionite> coz_: yes u still rem the fx5500!!! amazing.
[13:53] <schnuffle> b0ot: Yes just install ubuntu-desktop
[13:54] <coz_> ionite,   I have one  sitting around here somewhere :)
[13:54] <b0ot> schnuffle, after I install it how do I switch to it?
[13:54] <dr_willis> b0ot,  at the login screen. theres a menu
[13:54] <livingdaylight> my keyboard doesn't have the backslash key!
[13:54] <schnuffle> b0ot: At the login screen you can choose which to run
[13:54] <ionite> coz_:  i was so frustrated with my FX5500. anyways, now i'm frustrated with the buggy banshee in UNITY and the delay even browsing from tab to tab.
[13:55] <coz_> b0ot,    log off,,, clcik to enter your password,,,  just below on the panel is the sessions menu ,, c hoose from there then put in password and hit en ter
[13:55] <Daghdha> Hello. I run Vboxie on ubuntu. Are there any better virtual machines to run in ubuntu?
[13:55] <bazhang> Daghdha, vbox?
[13:55] <Daghdha> I'mmoderately happy with vboxie. (The ubuntu machine is the HOST btw :)
[13:55] <schnuffle> Daghdha: Better for what purpose
[13:55] <coz_> ionite,  well yes an fx card may not be able to handle Unity's  interface well
[13:55] <ThinkT510> Daghdha: you could try qemu
[13:56] <b0ot> coz_ schnuffle ... how do I install ubuntu-desktop in lxde?
[13:56] <coz_> ionite,  since compiz is running that,, you may have to disable some of the plugins in compiz  to get to a "decent" working environment
[13:56] <Daghdha> Running window
[13:56] <coz_> b0ot,    open a terminal     sudo apt-get install ubunt-desktop
[13:56] <Daghdha> qemu huh.. /me googles
[13:56] <schnuffle> b0ot: open terminal window and enter: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[13:56] <geegeegee> Anyone know of a guide to upgrade to the newest Ubuntu from 10.04?
[13:56] <ThinkT510> !info qemu | Daghdha
[13:57] <coz_> !upgrade
[13:57] <ionite> dr_willis:  schnuffle  schnuffle  GirlyGirl ThinkT510 coz_ : but i only have a 512MB Ram, 256MB FX5500 graphics.  and i need something that doesn't lag like now in UNITY even browsing from window to window and a easy to use environment for a programming idoit like me! i know nuts about SUO apt-get etc etc, it's giving me headaches.  Sorry =X
[13:57] <schnuffle> Daghdha: For me better means OpenVZ or KVM
[13:57] <b0ot> coz_, schnuffle it doesn't appear that this system has apt-get... is that possible?
[13:57] <Daghdha> Hmm
[13:57] <schnuffle> ionite: The lag doesn't come from missing memory it comes from missing 3D support
[13:57] <coz_> ionite,   you could also install unity2d and switch to that,, it will look nearly the same
[13:58] <coz_> b0ot,  are you on ubuntu?
[13:58] <Daghdha> from a quick read i'll stick with VBoxie
[13:58] <rly> Can someone recommend a good time zone display application which shows Europe and the USA?
[13:58] <ThinkT510> !xubuntu | ionite
[13:58] <schnuffle> b0ot: Hmm sure you 're running ubuntu?
[13:58] <coz_> b0ot,     sudo  apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[13:58] <b0ot> coz_, yes... it actually worked... it just didn't tab complete which made me think it wasn't installed
[13:58] <quem> any gnome-phone-manager users? :)
[13:58] <quem> love that convenient shit...
[13:58] <b0ot> apt-get wouldn't tab complete
[13:58] <coz_> b0ot,  ah understood
[13:58] <Daghdha> Was looking for something far superior to justtify the hassle of a switch over. Thanks guys!
[14:00] <bullgard4_> Banshee 2.0.0 > Track Editor > Sorting: What is the effect if I make an entry in the "Sort Track Title:" field?
[14:00] <guesy> ThinkT510: my Ubuntu Machine has a tomcat server running. I am not able to access this tomcat server from an other machine on the network. can you please help me out
[14:00] <ionite> alrighty.  Thanks for all ur helpful inputs!
[14:00] <ThinkT510> guesy: sorry, i have no experience with tomcat; there is a #ubuntu-server channel too
[14:01] <ionite> alrighty.  Thanks for all ur helpful inputs!
[14:01] <schnuffle> guesy: paste following command output: sudo iptables -L      and netstat -tulpen
[14:04] <guesy> schnuffle:    please check your IM
[14:05] <schnuffle> on which port is tomcat runing 8005?
[14:05] <guesy> 8080
[14:07] <guesy> schnuffle: No.. Its on port 8080
[14:07] <schnuffle> guesy: Hmm you have a lot of rules but the first one is Accepting everything. Is that just for debugging purposes?
[14:08] <guesy> schnuffle: this machine runnig tomcat is the development environment... so yeah.. Debugging also.
[14:09] <livingdaylight> I know how to cd forward in a directory; how to cd backwards without starting right at the beginning again?
[14:09] <coz_> livingdaylight,    cd ..
[14:09] <scirvir> Any one know how to open a ole file. I accidently deleted a odt file and I recovered some ole files using foremost.
[14:09] <livingdaylight> coz_: cd.. command not found
[14:10] <coz_> livingdaylight,  put 2  dots  after cd  ,,  so    cd  space  ..
[14:10] <schnuffle> guesy: Okay so apparenlty tomcat is listening on all ip's IPv6 is enabled and the firwall accepts everything, So it has to be something in the tomcat config that prevents you from connecting to tomcat from the network
[14:10] <livingdaylight> coz_: ok, space before making two dots, thanks
[14:10] <coz_> livingdaylight,  yep
[14:10] <m1d4s> i have no nm and bluetooth manager icon at default (the applet is working) how can i fix it (oneiric)?
[14:10] <coz_> livingdaylight,  that should take you back one directory
[14:11] <m1d4s> at ma panel *
[14:11] <guesy> Please excuse me if I am asking dumb questions. But, do you have any idea, to what it is in tomcat ?
[14:11] <ThinkT510> !11.10 | m1d4s
[14:11] <schnuffle> guesy: I'm just checking
[14:11] <greyfiend> vaev: thanks for your help, the random mouse freezes on 11.04 studio on a thinkpad l520 were solved using this line: echo "options psmouse proto=imps"|sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf; sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sudo modprobe psmouse
[14:11] <guesy> schnuffle: Please excuse me if I am asking dumb questions. But, do you have any idea, to what it is in tomcat ?
[14:11] <coz_> livingdaylight,  also if you just type  cd  it should take you directoy to the home directory
[14:12] <livingdaylight> coz_: cd takes me right to the beginning which in this live cd situation is root:ubuntu
[14:12] <coz_> livingdaylight,  ah ok
[14:13] <vaev> greyfiend: awesome :)
[14:13] <dr_willis> command line basics  livingdaylight   http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/cli.html
[14:13] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: thx
[14:15] <ruby_on_tails> how do i turn on oobase ?
[14:15] <ruby_on_tails> i want to import a ms access db
[14:17] <loled> Hi all. Does anyone have the video card or ATI Radeon HD5xxx or HD6xxx?
[14:17] <schnuffle> guesy: tomcat has a server.xml. Open it and search for <Connector port="8080" and change it to <Connector address="0.0.0.0" port="8080" restart tomcat and try it
[14:19] <ruby_on_tails> anyone knows how can i open an mls file in ubuntu ?
[14:19] <kpettit> what is a mls file?
[14:22] <wongpk> Anyone with Acer Aspire 4930 model?
[14:22] <gamingdroid> Does every user have to have a homde dir?
[14:23] <schnuffle> gamingdroid: no, nut without home no login is possible
[14:23] <schnuffle> *but
[14:23] <bullgard4_> ruby_on_tails: To turn on means here that you first will have to install the associated DEB program package.
[14:23] <AdvoWork> i know my php files use sendmail. any ideas where my sendmail config is on ubuntu? on centos its /etc/mail/sendmail.mc but i cant find anything on my ubuntu server?
[14:23] <ruby_on_tails> bullgard4_: how can i do that ?
[14:23] <ruby_on_tails> i dont know whats the associated deb program package for jet db/mls dbs
[14:23] <bullgard4_> ruby_on_tails: You can use the Synaptic program for this purpose.
[14:24] <scirvir> gamingdroid, no they do not.
[14:24] <schnuffle> AdvoWork: Ubuntu uses Postfix which has a sendmail wrapper so config is under /etc/postfix
[14:24] <schnuffle> AdvoWork: Opps not sure about that maybe it's even still exim
[14:24] <gamingdroid> So without a home dir, the user cannot login which is fine. Do I just leave it blank? I'm setting up a user for apache.
[14:25] <bullgard4_> ruby_on_tails: Please install openoffice.org-base.
[14:25] <schnuffle> gamingdroid: here's the line for the normal apache user: apache:x:48:48:Apache:/var/www:/sbin/nologin
[14:26] <ruby_on_tails> bullgard4i have oobase
[14:26] <ruby_on_tails> i just installed mdb utility
[14:26] <bullgard4_> ruby_on_tails: So what problem is left?
[14:26] <gamingdroid> schnuffle: is it valid to leave the /var/www as blank in that line? like will anything get screwed up?
[14:26] <scirvir> gamingdroid, doesn't apache use the www-data user?
[14:27] <helly^> I'm using VNC to get a GUI on my ubuntu box. On the top bar at the right, I've got 3 red symbols. An arrow , 9 and an A
[14:27] <helly^> Never seen it before, what is it?
[14:27] <schnuffle> gamingdroid: No, you can do it but why not set it?
[14:27] <schnuffle> scirvir: the line was from a centos server, just an example
[14:27] <gamingdroid> schnuffle: for some other stuff I don't want a home dir, or I should set it to a invalid dir
[14:27] <ThinkT510> helly^: 9 is likely numlock and A is likely capslock
[14:28] <ruby_on_tails> bullgard4_: i have oobase and just installed mdb utility
[14:28] <ruby_on_tails> still the mls file wont open
[14:28] <ruby_on_tails> it says jet utility misisn
[14:28] <Hrushikesh> short cuts are not working on ubuntu 10.10
[14:28] <schnuffle> gamingdroid: that's okay
[14:28] <ThinkT510> helly^: the arrow might be scroll-lock
[14:28] <bullgard4_> ruby_on_tails: I do not know any mls file.
[14:28] <ruby_on_tails> standard jet db and then numerous pages with ###
[14:28] <ruby_on_tails> hmm
[14:28] <helly^> Ok, thanks for explaining! :-)
[14:28] <ThinkT510> np
[14:29] <schnuffle> gamingdroid: but you have to take care that you don't use a login shell when you run scripts with that user
[14:30] <schnuffle> gamingdroid: example for you : nobody:x:65534:65534:nobody:/nonexistent:/bin/sh
[14:30] <loled> >Does anyone have the video card or ATI Radeon HD5xxx or HD6xxx?
[14:30] <loled> Probably no.
[14:31] <gamingdroid> schnuffle: why is having a login shell bad?
[14:31] <szal> !anyone | loled
[14:32] <schnuffle> gamingdroid: because a login shell reads its configuration from ~/.profile, ~/.bashrc ..... and when it doesn't exist it fails
[14:32] <daniele> s
[14:32] <gamingdroid> schnuffle: good point! :D
[14:32] <schnuffle> gamingdroid: so it's not bad but will fail :)
[14:33] <szymon_> Hola
[14:33] <schnuffle> szymon_: !sp
[14:33] <szymon_> no PL
[14:33] <szal> !pl | szymon_
[14:34] <schnuffle> szal: thanx
[14:34] <szymon_> ok I am from Poland
[14:35] <guesy> schnuffle: Sorry for the late reply. I did try adding the addres attribute, but it still behaves the same way !
[14:35] <szymon_> Have anybody speak in this forum?
[14:35] <GirlyGirl> szymon_: This is not a forrum its an irc channel
[14:36] <GirlyGirl> szymon_: Ubuntuforums.org for the forum
[14:36] <szymon_> what is the difrance?
[14:36] <iridium> time of response maybe?
[14:37] <schnuffle> guesy: Okay so what I would do is first flush you iptables to make sure that is not in your way, then check the configuration files in /etc/tomcat6, maybe /etc/default/tomcat6. I've no tomcat6 running on ubuntu so I'm not sure how the config is done there
[14:37] <schnuffle> guesy: Do you have selinux or appamor running? Turn it off or to permissive mode
[14:38] <schnuffle> !ask | szymon_
[14:39] <abhishekb> hi i installed ubuntu 11.04 on vm i don t see unity bar
[14:39] <abhishekb> what am i missing ?
[14:39] <berkes> previously the (slow) ubuntu help -reader would allow me to read manpages. The 11.04 one does not seem to offer that. How can I read manpages in unity/11.04 other then "man foo in the terminal"?
[14:40] <mouse> classic
[14:40] <Pici> abhishekb: 11.04 falls back to gnome 2.3 for non-accelerated desktops, you'll need to install unity2d for the unity experience on a vm.
[14:40] <roberto> ciao a tutti
[14:40] <enrique> d
[14:41] <iamanente> What should the size of my /boot partition be on Xubuntu 11.04 x86_64?
[14:41] <abhishekb> so if have 1gb ram core2 duo i ll not be able to use unity :(
[14:41] <schnuffle> abhishekb: the graphics are the problem not the CPU powedr or RAM
[14:41] <Pici> abhishekb: Thats not what I said.  You said you were running it in a virtual machine, VMs don't ually provide accelerated (3d) graphics
[14:42] <abhishekb> ok a gpu is a must
[14:42] <ThinkT510> iamanente: do you need a seperate /boot?
[14:42] <szal> Pici, abhishekb: VirtualBox 4.1 does
[14:42] <iamanente> ThinkT510: Not really, no.
[14:42] <ThinkT510> iamanente: 100mb should be fine
[14:42] <enrique> I hpw wic oubu
[14:42] <abhishekb> actually i was trying on vm then i m gonna replace my windows
[14:42] <iamanente> Cool
[14:42] <Pici> abhishekb: Best thing to do would be to try the LiveCD.
[14:43] <abhishekb> how to get one
[14:43] <szal> !getubuntu
[14:43] <roberto_> ciao a tutti
[14:43] <Pici> abhishekb: The desktop install CD is a live CD, just boot off of it and use the 'Try ubuntu' selection.
[14:43] <ThinkT510> abhishekb: download it
[14:43] <Pici> !it | roberto_
[14:44] <xendras> installed a software gtick  http://www.antcom.de/gtick/  but whenever i execute it gives an error  http://paste.kde.org/105217/
[14:44] <abhishekb> can i replace my window with ubuntu 11.04
[14:44] <xendras> please help me
[14:44] <iamanente> Another thing. When I set the size of a partition in the installer to e.g. 100 or 1000 it says that it's 98 or 998. If I set it to e.g. 107 or 1007 it says 107 or 1007. Why is that?
[14:45] <Pici> xendras: Are you using the version of gtick that is in the repositories?
[14:45] <roberto_> come si fà a scaricare musica qualcuno può dirmelo
[14:45] <ThinkT510> !find gtick
[14:45] <LloydUK> Hello one and all. Is anyone familiar with Ubuntu One? I have windows and the android app but photo's won't sync.
[14:45] <xendras> Pici: i installed it through ubuntu software centre
[14:45] <ThinkT510> !info gtick
[14:46] <sDark> hi
[14:47] <Guest87735> How do you make it so I can see all my files on my C: drive?
[14:48] <ThinkT510> !mount | Guest87735
[14:51] <LloydUK> Hi - is anyone familiar with the Ubuntu One client for windows?
[14:52] <LloydUK> Or even the difference between "My Synced Folders" and "Folders" in the Ubuntu One web page?
[14:55] <chocolates> I left ubuntu upgrading overnight.
[14:56] <chocolates> When I wake up, my screen was locked.
[14:56] <ThinkT510> chocolates: you can change that in the power management settings
[14:56] <fasttab> hi, i'm running ubuntu 11.04 classic, and when i log in it doesn't show the top or bottom bars
[14:56] <chocolates> And the packages are going to take "1 day 13 hours to install"
[14:56] <ThinkT510> !resetpanels | fasttab
[14:57] <chocolates> Is there any way I can refresh?
[14:58] <fasttab> ThinkT510: what?
[14:58] <Incarus6> chocolates, you could cancel the upgrade and finish the upgrade manually with "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[14:58] <schnuffle> fasttab: read the hint from ubottu
[14:58] <fasttab> schnuffle: i did, says gnome-panel no process found
[14:59] <chocolates> fasttab: How do I cancel it?
[14:59] <chocolates> This is an upgrade to 11.04 from 10.10
[14:59] <fasttab> chocolates: haha sorry man i don't know
[14:59] <tbearden> need some assistance w/ upstart in single user mode if someone can help
[14:59] <Incarus6> chcolotes, you meant Incarus6. Upgrading from terminal?
[15:00] <schnuffle> chocolates: How did you start the upgrade console or updatemanager?
[15:00] <daftykins> with ubuntu 10.10, is there a way to enable auto login from an SSH session instead of graphically within gnome?
[15:00] <chocolates> Updatemanager
[15:00] <schnuffle> chocolates: open a terminal get the PID from the updatemanager process and kill it
[15:00] <fasttab> ThinkT510: "!resetpanels" gives "bash: !resetpanels: event not found"
[15:01] <th0r> daftykins: auto login would kind of defeat the purpose of ssh
[15:01] <schnuffle> !resetpanel
[15:01] <ThinkT510> fasttab: gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[15:01] <tbearden> help, plz! adding script to '/etc/rc1.d', then when going to 'init 1' the script won't run
[15:01] <daftykins> th0r: trust me there's a reason, just want to know whether it's possible :>
[15:01] <schnuffle> fasttab: so you should do: gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[15:01] <chocolates> schnuffle: I have no idea how to do that. Also, what if something gets corrupted? :s
[15:01] <edbian> tbearden: is the script executable?
[15:01] <fasttab> '][oppp []
[15:02] <fasttab> sorry
[15:02] <fasttab> ThinkT510: I did that already, as per the bot. It gives "gnome-panel" no process found
[15:02] <fasttab> schnuffle: I did that already, as per the bot. It gives "gnome-panel" no process found
[15:03] <tbearden> @edbian, file permissions of script, 'lrwxrwxrwx'
[15:03] <tbearden> so that should do it
[15:03] <schnuffle> chocolates: as long as you don't reboot you can clean up, to get the PID: ps aux | grep update should show you the processes, to kill a process: kill -9 <PID>
[15:03] <Incarus6> chocolates, "sudo dpkg --configure -a" will install the remaining packages
[15:03] <th0r> daftykins: it is possible using rsa keys
[15:03] <edbian> tbearden: What is the script called?
[15:03] <szal> tbearden: that's not the script, that's a link to the script
[15:04] <edbian> tbearden: is szal right? (same thought occured to me)
[15:04] <schnuffle> fasttab: what hapens when you logout and login again?
[15:04] <subz3r0> Hi there, im trying to get a beamer of a friend to work. Used the Nvidia drivers and turned on twinview. Problem is that e.g Firefox wont run in fullscreen on the beamer. Firefox wont fit on the screen when we maximize it. Maybe anyone could have a look on his xorg.conf?  http://pastebin.com/pyFYKY0E
[15:04] <fasttab> schnuffle: hang on
[15:04] <fasttab> schnuffle: how do i do that from terminal
[15:05] <chocolates> schnuffle: Is it ok to use system monitor?
[15:05] <tbearden> @szal: permissions of actual script in '/etc/init.d/'
[15:05] <tbearden> lrwxrwxrwx
[15:05] <tbearden> wait
[15:06] <tbearden> @szal: -rwxr-xr-x
[15:06] <tbearden> set wrong one
[15:06] <tbearden> last time
[15:06] <tbearden> but -rwxr-xr-x is correct
[15:06] <asher^> hello. i was wondering if there was a way to specify certain external ips to use based on user/software
[15:06] <edbian> tbearden: What is the file in /etc/rc1.d called?
[15:06] <Guest30065> how did ubuntu get hbernation right out-of-the-box? my debian doesn't do that, what information do I need to duplicate it?
[15:07] <tbearden> @edbian:  file name is 'disk_sync_init1.sh', it's an 'rsync' script
[15:07] <edbian> tbearden: the file needs to be of the same form as the other files in /etc/rc1.d/  SXYscriptname
[15:09] <schnuffle> fasttab: isn't there a logout command, otherwise do a sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[15:09] <schnuffle> chocolates: System monitor for what?
[15:09] <tbearden> edbian: the link name in '/etc/rc1.d' is 'S98disk_sync_init1.sh'
[15:09] <jrib> Guest30065: i don't have a solid answer but my suggestion would be to 1) check for differences in pm-utils and 2) read the ubuntu wiki on hibernation as that may point you in the right direction to look
[15:09] <Narc> Hello everyone. How do I unmount a partition mounted at boot via fstab as a user ? Thanks
[15:10] <edbian> tbearden: Does the script ask for passwords and stuff? (since it's rsync ?)
[15:10] <schnuffle> Narc: sudo umount /mountpoint
[15:10] <jrib> Narc: can the user use sudo?
[15:10] <fasttab> schnuffle: ok, it looks like gnome-panel doesn't start automatically when i log in
[15:10] <chocolates> schnuffle: To kill the processes?
[15:11] <tbearden> edbian:  whenever i go to 'init 1', i get a prompt for the root password just to log back in under single user mod
[15:11] <Narc> schnuffle, jrib: Yes I can use sudo, but I was thinking about a more convenient way. I tried the "user" option in fstab to no avail.
[15:11] <schnuffle> chocolates: Yes if it can do it of course. But you'll need root permissions to do it. Don't know if the System monitor will ask for it
[15:11] <tbearden> edbian: but no prompt to run the script itself
[15:11] <jrib> Narc: I'd try "users"
[15:11] <WallyJ> Hello all... I am trying to install Ubuntu from a USB stick. It freezes during installation on the colorful screen with the circular cursor. Ideas?
[15:12] <edbian> tbearden: Those scripts won't be able to ask for passwords and such.  So if your script needs to interact with the user in any way it isn't going to work as a startup script
[15:12] <Vustom> I'm having trouble setting up a connection to my Proxy server, it's not the server as it works fine when I'm on Windows, if someone could help me fix this I would really appreciate it. Thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1816509
[15:12] <Narc> jrib:  I'll try that, thanks
[15:12] <tbearden> edbian: it doesn't need to interact w/ any user
[15:13] <edbian> tbearden: You just admitted that it needs to ask for a password.
[15:13] <Narc> jrib:  It works, thanks again.
[15:13] <jrib> Narc: no problem
[15:13] <jrib> Narc: and your system boots very fast -_-
[15:13] <drhead> Will there be a dist upgrade tool that you don't have to babysit in the future, because I hate waking up to find the dist upgrade tool stopped halfway because of a dialog appearing.
[15:13] <fasttab> i'll start over. gnome-panel doesn't start automatically when i log in, does anyone know how to fix it? it should be easy, but i'm not experienced...
[15:14] <Narc> jrib:  Haha, no, I just modified fstab and ran mount -a
[15:14] <jrib> Narc: ah :D
[15:14] <tbearden> edbian:  the script doesn't need a password at all
[15:14] <schnuffle> fasttab: have a look http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1604044.html
[15:14] <tbearden> edbian: when i enter single user mode, i have to enter root password in order to get a command prompt again
[15:15] <tbearden> edbian: but the script should be able to run whether i'm logged in with a command prompt or not
[15:15] <edbian> tbearden: sure, that's normal part of single user mode and does not have anything do to with the script.  Can you put something in the file like echo 'some test' >> /path/to/someFile.txt    so we can see that it's running very easily.
[15:15] <edbian> tbearden: It will run before you log in.
[15:16] <tbearden> edbian: i have this at the very beginning of the script, 'touch /disksync-begin'
[15:16] <tbearden> edbian: and it doesn't work
[15:17] <tbearden> edbian: that's the first line of code and that file never gets 'touch'ed
[15:17] <deinspanjer> Hey guys, I'm running 10.04.  I tried to change the display settings to rotate the screen and the monitor went into power save.  I expected that it would prompt me if I wanted to keep the change and automatically revert after a few seconds, but I guess Ubuntu doesn't do that.
[15:18] <deinspanjer> I would really appreciate some help reverting just that one change without doing a full reconfigure of xorg because I don't want to risk messing up the drivers and such.
[15:18] <schnuffle> tbearden: take care that you env is set correctly and don't rely on having the same env as a normal user. F.e. set the PATH variable in your  script. As example look a the scripts in /etc/cron.d
[15:18] <edbian> tbearden: If the link is SXYscriptName and the script it points to is executable then the script should run.  I'm not sure what else might be causing the problem.  Can you run the script manually?  /etc/rc1.d/S99scriptName.sh    ?
[15:18] <deinspanjer> I can shift over to tty1 and log in via console mode without a probme.
[15:18] <G0R> tbearden: you're trying to touch a directory
[15:18] <fasttab> schnuffle: thanks, that worked
[15:18] <Halabund> After my last hard drive crash I tried installing different versions of Ubuntu on my machine several times (about 3 times in a year), but every version that uses grub2 fails to boot with an "out of disk" (not disk space) error.  I get a grub recovery console, after which I keep rebooting from the CD (10 minutes) to google for solutions and rebooting again to find out that they don't work. ...
[15:18] <schnuffle> fasttab: fine
[15:18] <Halabund> ...Does anyone know this issue?  Is it fixed in 11.04?  Is it possible to install 11.04 with grub 1 (not grub 2)?  I need Linux for certain things in my work, but I don't want to waste 2 days again just to find out I simply can't get it installed.
[15:19] <maalac> my network adapter is not working whenever i boot up on battery mode? any ideas how can fix this. Using Ubuntu 10.10
[15:19] <edbian> Halabund: Why do you need grub1 instead of grub2 ? (grub1 cannot boot ext4 partitions I think)
[15:20] <Halabund> edbian, as I said no version of ubuntu using grub2 has ever successfully booted on this computer.  I don't need grub1, just a system that boots.
[15:20] <WallyJ> Ok...So, if I choose to run Ubuntu from my USB stick, it shows the desktop for a brief second, then shows a black screen, then a login screen. If I use "ubuntu" for username and a blank pw, it shows the black screen again, then back to the login screen... looping login screen. Help please
[15:21] <tbearden> edbian:  yes, i can run the file manually, i can either call it directly by it's file name in 'init.d' or by the link name under 'rc1.d'
[15:21] <schnuffle> Vustom: HAve you tried FireFox and set the socks5 proxy?
[15:22] <edbian> Halabund: Well if you install ubuntu 11.04 it's going to put grub2 on there.  I'm sure of any way to get grub1 on an ubuntu 11.04 system.
[15:22] <edbian> tbearden: I'm not sure then :(  Try the env var path
[15:22] <edbian> Halabund: I'm not* sure...
[15:22] <schnuffle> Vustom: And did you run the proy script as normal user?
[15:22] <Halabund> OK, so people don't read through long questions here.
[15:23] <Vustom> schnuffle: Nope, but I'd rather not use Firefox though, but I did use it yesterday for something else while being connected to the proxy and the improvement in speed went up and there was no connection drops.. so many it's the system's proxy that has the problem?
[15:23] <Halabund> Short question: has anyone ever successfully fixed an "out of disk" error on boot?
[15:23] <Incarus6> edbian, this seems to be a known bug to me, see bug 621434 and bug 44730
[15:23] <maalac> my network adapter is not working whenever i boot up on battery mode? any ideas how can fix this. Using Ubuntu 10.10
[15:23] <Vustom> schnuffle: Normal use, just double-clicked.
[15:23] <Vustom> user*
[15:23] <edbian> Incarus6: tell Halabund
[15:23] <Incarus6> edbian, nevermind, I mean 477430
[15:23] <WallyJ> @Halabund. I put up a short one, and that didn't get an answer either. So I thought maybe it needed more explanation
[15:23] <tbearden> schnuffle:  what do u mean by 'env'?  i don't fully understand what u mean by the path variable
[15:23] <Incarus6> edbian, sry, I mean Halabund.
[15:23] <edbian> tbearden: echo $PATH       ;)
[15:24] <Halabund> sorry, didn't see that message!
[15:24] <edbian> Incarus6: no worries :)
[15:24] <schnuffle> tbearden: type env and you will see what I mean
[15:24] <Incarus6> Halabund, it seems to be a known bug to me, see bug 621434 and bug 477430
[15:25] <tbearden> G0R:  when i manually run the script, it does touch the file/directory, actually, i don't think it's a directory, under the permissions, shows this, '-rw-r--r--' .  there's no 'd' before the permissions.
[15:25] <schnuffle> Vustom: chrome doesn't uses the global configuration. Make sure that you select manual proxy config and that you empty any fields but the Socks-Host
[15:26] <stealz> does anyone know if there is a way to make exceptions in trans-inactive?
[15:26] <Vustom> schnuffle: That's how I already have it.
[15:26] <schnuffle> Vustom: Per default HTTP-Proxy is set with localhost for http
[15:26] <Vustom> schnuffle: Huh?
[15:26] <Vustom> schnuffle: You've lost me. :p
[15:27] <Arabus> Hi all, I am running Ubuntu 10.04 and want to change the regional formats using the gnome-language-selector. When I do this and switch from english to german the menu goes graz for a millisecond then switches back to english. anyone have a guess or hint for me?
[15:27] <G0R> tbearden: if you have it as /foo, it's going to think foo is a directory.  If you have it as /home/me/foo, it will think it is a file.  I just mention it as it seems you have an issue with it
[15:28] <schnuffle> Vustom: Okay, when you go to the connection settings you can choose the manual proxy config option, Then you can set  proxy adresses for HTTP,SSL,FTP and SOCKS-Host. Make sure that the HTTP-Proxy field is empty
[15:28] <Fustigation> Hi. Can someone look at this please: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1816725
[15:29] <jbwiv> guys, after adding my user to a new group, how can I get that group setting to take effect without logging out/back in from Unity?
[15:29] <tbearden> edbian: at the beginning of the script, i have '#! /bin/sh'.  is that what u mean?
[15:29] <Vustom> schnuffle: All are empty besides Socks host: which has localhost then 42280 for the Port:
[15:29] <kamidi> that seems to be another ntfs partition, not partition where windows is installed
[15:30] <Fustigation> I installed Ubuntu with the installer though?
[15:30] <Fustigation> I've got both Windows and Ubuntu
[15:30] <earthling> G0R: seriously what did u say  to tbearden ?
[15:31] <schnuffle> Vustom: Hmm, can test it right now, I'm only sure it worked for me in Firefox
[15:31] <G0R> earthling: he seemed to be confused between referencing a file and a directory - sorry to not be clear
[15:31] <tbearden> i'm not a linux guru, i'm having a little trouble wrapping my head around the concept of 'PATH'
[15:31] <earthling> G0R: were u talking about how touch command works ?
[15:31] <edbian> tbearden: That is correct, you  need that.  Open a shell, type echo $PATH    that is the path variable.
[15:31] <G0R> earthling: no, i was not
[15:32] <earthling> G0R: ohhh.. my mistake then.. sorry...
[15:32] <Vustom> schnuffle: I hope I can get this fixed, I dread using Ubuntu now because I can't use my Proxy. D:
[15:32] <Fustigation> Nobody can help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1816725
[15:32] <schnuffle> tbearden: PATH gives the system all the pathes where to look for executables, so if you have PATH=/bin:/usr/bin and you call myprog it will look in those two locations for it
[15:32] <cntb> can I recover MBR after windows xp install https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows with a pendrive install ?
[15:32] <G0R> earthling: np :)
[15:32] <tbearden> edbian: when i type '#PATH', i get 'PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games'
[15:33] <cntb> pici ?
[15:33] <dr_willis> cntb,  you shoudl be able to
[15:33] <schnuffle> Fustigation: what means same drive? same harddisk but different partition?
[15:33] <tbearden> schnuffle: ty, i'll keep that in mind
[15:33] <Pici> cntb: sorry, I'm busy.
[15:33] <Fustigation> Yeah it's on same HD.
[15:33] <edbian> tbearden: Yes, someone suggested you make sure it's correct.  Perhaps you should read about what the $PATH variable does.   http://www.codecoffee.com/tipsforlinux/articles/030.html
[15:33] <schnuffle> Fustigation: but on a different partition?
[15:34] <Fustigation> I believe so
[15:34] <schnuffle> Fustigation: and I can't see your picture as I don't have a login to the forum
[15:34] <Fustigation> Give me a second I'll upload it.
[15:35] <Fustigation> http://i.imgur.com/wWhQp.png
[15:36] <qbert_> how can I bind "Windows-Left" , to move my current window to my left monitor ?  Readme's ?
[15:36] <schnuffle> Fustigation: Open a terminal and paste the outpput of  sudo fdisk -l and mount
[15:36] <cntb> dr_willis, which download from http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/ should I forcefully use alternate or desktop install can help me
[15:37] <tbearden> edbian: i'm not understanding why the script will run when i manually execute it but not automatically via 'rc1.d' when in single user mode
[15:37] <dr_willis> cntb,  in theory either one can. since both can get to the console/command line. BUt you prob. want the Desktop version so you can use the GUI and follow the guides based on you having the gui version
[15:37] <Fustigation> schnuffle: So type in sudo fdisk -l? It won't let me type "and mount" after it.
[15:38] <dr_willis> !runlevel
[15:38] <schnuffle> tbearden: have you tried to use all commands with the full path, e.g. /sur/bin/ls instead of ls?
[15:38] <Brentonator> I'm not sure where to start this discussion, but what OS would I want to run a red5 media server with ffmpeg and apache?
[15:38] <schnuffle> Fustigation: first just type fdisk -l
[15:38] <dr_willis> tbearden,  you could try making it a upstart script in /etc/init and forget about the rc1.d type dirs/scripts
[15:38] <schnuffle> Fustigation: then type mount
[15:38] <cntb> !usbinstall
[15:38] <earthling> Fustigation : Please first refer some tutorial about installing linux alongside windows and try understanding what a drive and a partition mean. your current status ? your windows has gone for a toss i think
[15:38] <Fustigation> schnuffleDisk /dev/sda: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes
[15:38] <Fustigation> 240 heads, 63 sectors/track, 32301 cylinders
[15:38] <Fustigation> Units = cylinders of 15120 * 512 = 7741440 bytes
[15:38] <Fustigation> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[15:38] <Fustigation> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[15:38] <FloodBot1> Fustigation: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:38] <Fustigation> Disk identifier: 0x83108310
[15:38] <Fustigation>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[15:39] <cntb> !usbdrive
[15:39] <schnuffle> !pastebin | Fustigation
[15:39] <jereanon> After doing the most recent upgrade to 11.04, my laptop doesn't complete booting to gnome anymore. I can switch to a different TTY and run startx to run gnome fine, but I would like it to complete booting. Any insight on what to look at to fix this?
[15:39] <tbearden> i also tried adding it directly to upstart, via '/etc/event.d' but that didn't work
[15:39] <terry> join france24-rfi boA25frun
[15:40] <Rigorm0rtis> Hello guys. When I archive a sparse file with tar (using the S option), tar seems to archive the sparse file as I would expect. However,  when I extract the tar archive the sparse file is 0 bytes.  This happens with both tar x and tar xS. Am I doing something wrong here?
[15:40] <tbearden> dr_willis:  i also tried adding it directly to upstart, via '/etc/event.d' but that didn't work
[15:40] <frank_> hi all
[15:40] <dr_willis> tbearden,  ive never used event.d  i just make simple things in /etc/init/
[15:40] <cntb> dr_willis, trying to ask ubottu for preparing pendrive  usbdrive what keyword for this_
[15:40] <cntb> !usb
[15:41] <frank_> i was trying Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libgtk2.0-cil (>= 2.12.10)install inssider in ubuntu but i have this error :
[15:41] <dr_willis> cntb,  use a tool from the pendrivelinux site. or the usb-creator tool from the ubuntu site.
[15:41] <frank_> any idea
[15:41] <cntb> ty dr_willis
[15:41] <tbearden> schnuffle:  i never use the full path of a command, only the command itself, such as 'ls -lh /' or 'uptime' or 'df -h', etc...
[15:42] <schnuffle> tbearden:  So you never nearly lost your head twiggling cron jobs :). Try it
[15:42] <dr_willis> tbearden,  for init and cron jobs you often need to use the full path to the command.
[15:44] <K4k> How can I find the /dev/[something] device for my audio input device? I know the device works but I kdenlive is requesting the /dev/[something] name which I don't know.
[15:44] <tbearden> dr_willis: the commands in the script are, touch, echo, mount, rsync, umount, shutdown
[15:44] <tbearden> dr_willis: so i should include the full path for these?
[15:44] <dr_willis> tbearden,  or make sure the script sets a good sane PATH at the start.. that would be the best way.
[15:45] <schnuffle> tbearden: so get the path with which touch, which echo, ..... and set the full path in your script
[15:45] <dr_willis> tbearden,  then have the init/cron job call the FULL path to the script.
[15:45] <schnuffle> tbearden: look, dr_willis and me give you an advice. Why not just try it?
[15:46] <Herakles> Is it okay if i am a single user; and uptime shows 3 users ? (1 bash terminal is open )
[15:46] <hroi> hi...
[15:46] <tbearden> schnuffle: working on it now, will update shortly, ty!
[15:46] <hroi> I just installed vnc4server package on my ubuntu server.
[15:46] <jrib> hroi: yeah, try 'w' instead of 'users'
[15:46] <jrib> oops
[15:46] <jrib> Herakles: yeah, try 'w' instead of 'users'
[15:46] <edbian> Herakles: They are probably just your terminal windows.  Take a look with who
[15:47] <hroi> for some reason this vncserver doesnt run as it should, out of the box.
[15:47] <Herakles> jrib, w shows also 3 users....
[15:47] <jrib> Herakles: yes, but see the WHAT column
[15:48] <Herakles> jrib, ?
[15:48] <jrib> Herakles: in 'w', you will see a WHAT column
[15:48] <YankDownUnder> Ghosts on the computer, OH MY! ;)
[15:48] <hroi> int the .vnc folder in xstartup file... it concludes by runnig x-window-manager &
[15:48] <hroi> this should allow me to have floating windows.
[15:49] <hroi> but I get no window controls, and no window decorations.
[15:49] <Herakles> jrib, WHAT is showing "gnome-session" and "w"
[15:49] <jrib> hroi: what does x-window-manager point to?
[15:49] <hroi> I think im missing the basic X11 window managers.
[15:49] <hroi> jrib: checking
[15:50] <Arabus> Hi all, I am running Ubuntu 10.04 and want to change the regional formats using the gnome-language-selector. When I do this and switch from english to german the menu goes gray for a millisecond then switches back to english. Anyone have a guess or hint for me?
[15:50] <jrib> Herakles: well presumably there are 3 things?  But anyway taht's why multiple users show up.  It's normal
[15:50] <dr_willis> hroi,  that 'x-window-manager' is normally set by the 'alternatives' system. You could set it to whtever you want like 'openbox' or fluxbox
[15:50] <exxtreme>  hroi, i just installed the lxde application suite for my vnc server.  Works fine.
[15:50] <hroi> jrib: it points to nothing... ubuntu tells me it is contained in this and that such and such packages.
[15:50] <jrib> hroi: install a window manager :D
[15:50] <dr_willis> hroi,  in xstartup for gnome, you would want 'gnome-session' , not sure what it would be for lxde.
[15:51] <tbearden> dr_willis: one last question, is there a standard way of finding path of an executable?
[15:51] <dli> tbearden, which which
[15:51] <dr_willis> tbearden,  the which command.
[15:51] <hroi> jrib: dr_willis: thanks... so I just need to install some window manager package
[15:51] <dr_willis> hroi,  odd that x-window-manager is not set to somthing.. but some vnc setups are a little weird
[15:52] <hroi> jrib: dr_willis:  I kinda like those old ones... really basic and lightweight right?
[15:52] <jrib> hroi: yeah, it will probably become what x-window-manager points to automatically, but if not, use update-alternatives (in my case x-window-manager points to xmonad and I never set that)
[15:52] <tbearden> k, just found it, ty!
[15:52] <hroi> dr_willis: well... i didnt install a desktop
[15:52] <gulzar> I want xcompmgr,conky,docky to autostart when logged in. How to do it?
[15:52] <jrib> hroi: try fluxbox
[15:52] <hroi> dr_willis: this vnc4server assumes I have a desktop or some window manager
[15:52] <tbearden> i kno i prolly sound like an idiot for not understanding PATH... but this just helped me a lot i think!
[15:53] <dr_willis> hroi,  thats would  be a issue then. :)
[15:53] <iLogic> suspend and hibernate crashes ubuntu 11.04 (blinking caps) all the time.. any clues on what might be happening?
[15:53] <jonesy> how do I do the equivalent of 'chkconfig <svcname> off' in ubuntu 11.04?
[15:53] <th0r> gulzar: start those programs and when you log out remember to save the session
[15:53] <hroi> jrib: ok fluxbox why not.
[15:53] <dr_willis> x-window-mnager is a link to -->   /usr/bin/x-window-manager -> /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager
[15:53] <hroi> jrib: just want something ultralight and stable
[15:53] <dr_willis> hroi,  thhen that is a link to my actual 'default' window manager.
[15:54] <gulzar> th0r: no not like this. I want it the proper way...like adding some kind of entry etc.
[15:54] <jrib> hroi: fluxbox is pretty light while still being pretty straightforward imo.  But there are tons of light window managers in the repositories
[15:54] <dr_willis> hroi,  lightest full desktop is lxde/lubuntu - if you want to roll your own. you can use any of a dozen+ window managers
[15:54] <hwilde> my sound has broken again why do you people keep mesesing with it
[15:55] <hroi> dr_willis:  checked /usr/bin and /etc/alternatives... not window manager.
[15:55] <gulzar> I want xcompmgr,conky,docky to autostart when logged in. And they should start in same order. How to do it?
[15:55] <hwilde> makes me want to never update again
[15:55] <th0r> hwilde: I didn't do anything to it
[15:55] <dli> hwilde, pulseaudio?
[15:55] <hwilde> I can see it playing on the other thing in pavucontrol
[15:55] <dr_willis> gulzar,  make a script that runs them exactly how you want. put it in .config/autostart
[15:55] <hwilde> but it is no longer coming out of my headphones
[15:55] <hwilde> I didn't reboot, I didn't plug or unplug anything, must be updates changing stuff
[15:55] <jrib> hwilde: does pavucontrol show "dummy output"?
[15:56] <hroi> flwm that rings a bell... isnt that this old solaris looking window manager.
[15:56] <dr_willis> !info flvwm
[15:56] <hwilde> pavucontrol shows two outputs,  HDMI and Analog
[15:56] <jrib> -l maybe
[15:56] <dr_willis> hroi,  thats an old one. :)
[15:56] <hwilde> I can see the volume bar on the HDMI thing bouncing around corresponding with the audio I am playing
[15:56] <hroi> !info flwm
[15:56] <jrib> oh
[15:56] <gulzar> dr_willis: script??? Sorry, I can't. I don't know
[15:56] <jrib> never heard of that :P
[15:56] <dli> hroi, icewm ?
[15:56] <iridium> hwilde, my psychic powers broke it
[15:57] <dr_willis> gulzar,  time tolearn then i guess.. just the commands you want to run, in order. with & at the end of each command..
[15:57] <jrib> hroi: just install half a dozen and try them all imo
[15:57] <Nilzie> Could anyone explain to a noob what the major differences between Unity and Gnome 3 is?
[15:57] <hroi> !info fluxbox
[15:57] <sidao> hi all,
[15:57] <gulzar> dr_willis: I think I saw something like this.....I will try
[15:57] <dr_willis> gulzar,  ie; (3 line example) -->   #!/bin/bash   command1 &     sleep 10             *3 seperate lines)
[15:57] <hroi> jrib: fluxbox 4.7 MB.... but flwm is 165 kB.
[15:58] <hroi> thats what I call lightweight :)
[15:58] <dr_willis> hroi,  flwm is also  the kind of thing you recompile to change settings.. :)
[15:58] <dr_willis> !info jwm
[15:58] <dr_willis> jwm at least has a tray  and a few other basics.
[15:58] <Offlein1> Is it possible to copy an installed package from one Ubuntu system to run "portably" on another, if it has the required libraries?
[15:59] <dli> Offlein1, you mean configure files?
[15:59] <gulzar> dr_willis: I think I can do this....I saw some examples.. OK time to learn something new. Thank You!
[15:59] <bipolar> I'm trying to install virtualbox packages (from virtualbox.org) as part of a preseeded install. The only thing I can't figure out is how to get the kernel modules built for the installed kernel rather then the installer's kernel. Right now after the install is done, and the pc reboots, I still need to run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup. This is because the installed kernel is newer then the installers kernel. Has anyone run into anything similar to this?
[15:59] <hwilde> ah I clicked enough drop downs eventually it switched devices.  it would be nice if this would stop changing now.
[15:59] <jereanon> After doing the most recent upgrade to 11.04, my laptop doesn't complete booting to gnome anymore. I can switch to a different TTY and run startx to run gnome fine, but I would like it to complete booting. Any insight on what to look at to fix this?
[16:00] <Offlein1> dli: I'm not 100% sure -- but I have the PDFTK package on my local machine, and my web server host cannot install it (as I need them to) so they have suggested I try moving the package from my local machine into a directory on the server.
[16:00] <Offlein1> The guy's English was totally unclear in the email he sent, however.
[16:00] <ThinkT510> Nilzie: the quickest way to find out is try them and see
[16:00] <jpds> bipolar: Use DKMS?
[16:01] <jpds> !info virtualbox-ose-dkms | bipolar
[16:01] <Pirx-Danford> cheers I have a symbios logic 53c1030 raid controller and am looking if there is some out of the box ubuntu solution to check the raid status, anyone able to give me a hint? so far it seems I have to get the raidman thing from ibm running, which I would rather like not to do
[16:01] <hroi> dr_willis: jrib:  what will be my default windowman?  the last one I installed perhaps?
[16:02] <jrib> hroi: probably, but use update-alternatives to change
[16:02] <dr_willis> hroi,  thats how it would work from the 'alternatives' systems point of view
[16:03] <schnuffle> Offlein1: it's possible but chances are hich that you mess up, if you don't know really good what you're doing
[16:04] <hroi> !wm2
[16:04] <hroi> !info wm2
[16:04] <tal> f
[16:04] <schnuffle> Offlein1: what system is your web server running under. Maybe there's a repository that gives you the functionality from PDFTK
[16:04] <Offlein1> schnuffle: Thanks for reply - I don't have sudo so I can't do too much damage, I assume. Any idea where I can find the actual files I'd need to copy? I know where the binary is (/usr/bin/pdftk) but that's not super useful.
[16:04] <hroi> !info twm
[16:05] <tim167> hi, i want gnome, and ditch Unity, it sucks, help!
[16:05] <dr_willis> !classic | tim167
[16:05] <Offlein1> schnuffle: It's Ubuntu Hardy -- but that's not the issue sadly. It's hosted as part of a cloud image by our high-performance webhost that they are not able  to just install things to. I guess.
[16:06] <ikonia> tim167: tht's not really possible as a long term solution
[16:06] <schnuffle> Offlein1: To see what libs the binary is linked against use: ldd /usr/bin/pdftk. So you don't have any opportunity to gain root rights on the web server?
[16:06] <dr_willis> tim167,  classic gnome will be gone in the 11.10 release.
[16:06] <tim167> dr_willis: there is NO such thing as a selection box at the bottom of my login screen!
[16:06] <dr_willis> tim167,  gdm has one. kdm has one. lightdm has one.. what are you using?
[16:07] <tim167> where is the "session box"?
[16:07] <tim167> dr_willis: ubuntu 11.04
[16:07] <arooni-mobile> i'd like to index files in a few different folders so i can quickly find them ... i.e. typing a few characters of the filenames and it will autocomplete and find it.  i'm running 11.04
[16:07] <Offlein1> schnuffle I can't gain it, but if something needs to be done to like.. configure something root-needed, I can possibly get them to do that. But installing/removing packages is out.
[16:07] <schnuffle> Offlein1: if all the libs are on the web server you can try to copy it somewhere to the webserver
[16:07] <tbearden> dr_willis: just added this line to the top of my script 'PATH=/user/bin:/sbin:/bin'
[16:07] <dr_willis> enter yoru users name. then a box/menu appears somewhere near the bottom i belive. AFTER you enter the users name
[16:07] <tim167> dr_willis: Unity, by default I suppose
[16:07] <tbearden> dr_willis:  script still not working when executed by 'rc1.d'
[16:07] <Offlein1> schnuffle: I'll try the ldd thing, and could I presumably put them in the same directory as the binary and it may find them?
[16:07] <dr_willis> tim167,  Unity is the 'desktop session' Your Login manager is GDM/KDM/LXDM/LightDM or somting similer...
[16:07] <tim167> dr_willis: no it doesn't, i tried 10 times
[16:08] <schnuffle> tbearden: should be PATH=/usr/bin:/bin not users
[16:08] <tbearden> lulz
[16:08] <Pirx-Danford> tim167, are you looking at the bottom of the login window or the bottom of the screen? its all down at the bottom of the screen
[16:08] <schnuffle> Offlein1: the system knows where to find the libs
[16:08] <tim167> dr_willis: i don't know which login manager, the default one, i just installed an hour ago
[16:08] <tbearden> guess i'm so frustrated i'm missing really stupid stuff now
[16:09] <tim167> Pirx-Danford: at the bottom of the LOGIN window
[16:09] <schnuffle> Offlein1: otherwise LD_LIBRARY_PATH can be set to hint where to find the libs
[16:09] <dr_willis> tim167,  if you are using ubuntu, then youa re using GDM, and there is some sort of session menu on the gdm screen after you enter/select the users name.
[16:09] <evox> ???/
[16:09] <tim167> dr_willis: third time: no there is NOT, no way to select session!
[16:10] <Ryan__> tim167, The default display manager in Ubuntu is GDM, unless you mean the desktop to load.
[16:10] <ThinkT510> tim167: there is, log out, select your username then pick the session at the bottom
[16:10] <Ryan__> Kubuntu's default DM is KDM
[16:10] <tim167> Ryan__: it's Unity here, ubuntu 11.04
[16:10] <Pirx-Danford> tim167, look at the bottom of the screen - down down down! ;)
[16:10] <Ryan__> Oh
[16:10] <drhead> Help me, I did a distribution upgrade and it failed near the end of installing and now in he update manager I can't attempt to upgrade again
[16:10] <ejo> In order to get the choice of window managers to show up at the bottom of the login screen (on 11.04) you have to RIGHT CLICK your login name
[16:10] <tim167> ThinkT510: no there is not, shal i take a picture to proove?
[16:10] <ejo> It won't be there unless you right clicked
[16:10] <schnuffle> tbearden: I guess everybody has already had such situations. So don't bother. The more you're frustrated the more the satifaction will be when you made it :)
[16:10] <ejo> tim167 ^
[16:10] <edbian> drhead: sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:11] <ThinkT510> tim167: yes please
[16:11] <Offlein1> schnuffle: So I copied the binary, ran it, and the first error says it can't find libgcj. But I believe the server has libgcj, so if I set the environment variable "LD_LIBRARY_PATH" to the directory that libgcj is in, it should potentially work?
[16:11] <tim167> ok I log out once again, damn this is frustrating, i hate Unity, BAD decision Canonical!
[16:11] <wang__> test
[16:11] <hroi> !info lxde
[16:11] <Ryan__> edbian, if you want to upgrade the release of Ubuntu, the command line is: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:11] <drhead> edbian: No new release found.  Should
[16:12] <edbian> Ryan__: There is a tool do-release-upgrade    that upgrades from one version to the next
[16:12] <wang__> Is somebody in?
[16:12] <edbian> drhead: Then I think you're fine :)
[16:12] <Ryan__> Oh.
[16:12] <faint545> does anyone know how to mount a raw disk image?
[16:12] <drhead> I try turning it off and on again?
[16:12] <schnuffle> Ryan__: only if you have changed the sources.list already
[16:12] <tim167> oh by the way, this is also gone: power icon > System Settings > login screen, where is it!?
[16:12] <wang__> ha
[16:12] <hroi> !info xfce
[16:12] <tim167> mystery meat navigation
[16:12] <Dori922> !info mom
[16:12] <netking> !info wget
[16:13] <Pici> !msgthebot | hroi everyone
[16:13] <ThinkT510> !info xfce4 | hroi
[16:13] <juliohm> There is some problem in burn the iso image into a DVD instead of a CD?
[16:13] <Pirx-Danford> what is a factoid? oO
[16:13] <Pici> juliohm: none
[16:13] <netking> !info scrot
[16:13] <juliohm> thank you Pici ;-)
[16:13] <dr_willis> juli0w,  ive heard it works.. ive heard it dont work... :)
[16:13] <Pici> netking: stop playing with the bot.
[16:14] <dr_willis> juliohm, ,  ive heard it works.. ive heard it dont work... :)  so try and see - i always use flash drives these days
[16:14] <ejo> tim167: if you can't find any other way to log out, close all programs then press Ctrl-Alt-T to get a terminal window; then at the prompt give the command: sudo restart gdm
[16:14] <Ryan__> edbian, there is an easy way to find if you are using the current release and if not, upgrade. Here's how: First, open up a run dialog, and type in it: update-manager -d   Then, you will see the "Upgrade" button next to "New Ubuntu release is available!
[16:14] <schnuffle> Pirx-Danford: a macro that helps to display info like !anyone or !info .....
[16:15] <Ryan__> I am not sure how to use do-release-upgrade
[16:15] <wang__> It likes some robots in
[16:16] <felix_klow> hi, does ubuntu 11.04 support intels turbo cpu?
[16:16] <earthling> one question to the mods .. ;-) . Is there any update on what ubuntu is doing about the power regression problem in linux kernel .. any patches or do we need to wait for patches from linus ?
[16:16] <szal> felix_klow: define 'intels turbo cpu'
[16:17] <edbian> drhead: cat /etc/issue/
[16:17] <edbian> drhead: cat /etc/issue
[16:17] <felix_klow> ok, i mean intel i7 cpu's
[16:17] <BuenGenio> hi
[16:18] <ThinkT510> felix_klow: yes i7 is supported
[16:18] <netking> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qj8p-PEwbI
[16:18] <felix_klow> ThinkT510, ok, tnx
[16:18] <BuenGenio> why do I keep seeing this line in my dmesg? [ 8995.255240] EXT4-fs (sda5): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro,commit=0  (sometimes commit is 600)
[16:18] <BuenGenio> sda5 is /
[16:18] <Myrtti> earthling: the 'mods' here are only to make the channel run smoothly, don't necessarily know about kernel plans
[16:18] <szal> netking: please don't post arbitrary links in here
[16:18] <dr_willis> BuenGenio,  i notice that every so often also.
[16:19] <dr_willis> earthling,  kernel 3.x is in the works. :) ive heard it helps a lot of those issues.. but if the fix's get ported back. will take time to tell..
[16:20] <BuenGenio> any major changes we'll be able to notice in userland with 3.0 ?
[16:20] <BuenGenio> I believe it's in going to be in 11.10 also
[16:21] <earthling> Myrtti, dr_willis , ohh.. patience is the mantra then .... :-)
[16:22] <lulznerd> hello
[16:23] <drhead> Ok, it worked. I noticed compositing is off and I can't find how to turn it back on.  Where did that get moved to ._.
[16:27] <drhead> This is awfully quiet for a room of over 1500 people
[16:28] <iridium> they are all beholders
[16:28] <iridium> watching you
[16:28] <schnuffle> drhead: I'm watching you
[16:28] <chaddy> I'm most likely detached
[16:29] <quiescens> They are all figments of your imagination, don't listen to them
[16:30] <bombshellz> Hello, I'm currently on Ubuntu 11.04 and I'm not sure why it's giving me so much pain... I downloaded VirtualBox from the website and attempting to configure a second Host-only adapter
[16:31] <bombshellz> Unfortunately I ran into a problem where there're no other options to select under Attached To, Name
[16:31] <ThinkT510> bombshellz: why didn't you install virtualbox from the repo?
[16:32] <bombshellz> I'm always accustom to installing VirtualBox from the site.... Usually installing repo sometimes is too old or it doesn't work properly
[16:33] <betasoft> try to use qemu
[16:33] <Pirx-Danford> bombshellz: sometimes setting up the extensions for virtualbox helps with certain features
[16:34] <drhead> Okay, tried compiz --replace to get compositing, and now I have unity's dock with over 9000 items on it, and it froze up in a way that I can still use my mouse.  What now?
[16:34] <drhead> Ctrl alt backspace time?
[16:35] <Pirx-Danford> bombshellz: at http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads there is also a download for the extensions, try to set them up properly
[16:36] <bombshellz> Pirx-Danford: This is prior to launching a VM... I need a second adapter created otherwise the Guest OS won't detect it ... Even if the Extensions work properly
[16:36] <drhead> Ctrl alt backspace isn't working...
[16:36] <buckiller> way to resize windows by dragging them with middle mouse button, snap to predefined grid
[16:37] <drhead> Please tell me we still have some way of resetting the x server
[16:37] <pea_brain> Hi all
[16:37] <dli> drhead, to kill X?
[16:37] <betasoft> hey
[16:37] <drhead> Yes, like ctrl alt backspace does
[16:37] <Toph2> i have lost the  'min', 'max' and 'x' on the upper right corner of all my applications,, Any ideas on how to restore those?
[16:38] <dli> drhead, sudo pkill -9 Xorg
[16:38] <drhead> Restarting it, taking you back to the login screen
[16:38] <ThinkT510> bombshellz: extensions are different to guest additions
[16:38] <drhead> One problem, it is frozen
[16:38] <dli> drhead, if you are running gdm, etc., try: screen sudo service gdm restart
[16:38] <neurochrome> hey folks, is it perfectly normal to see failed ssh login attempts on a regular basis?
[16:38] <bombshellz> ThinkT510: Ok
[16:38] <neurochrome> *in my logs
[16:38] <dli> drhead, ctl-atl-f1 ?
[16:39] <dli> drhead, or ssh login
[16:40] <drhead> Ok, it says I am currently logged in
[16:40] <drhead> I didn't just start two xservers did I?
[16:40] <tbearden> dr_willis:  I updated the script for my script, first line of code is 'PATH=/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin'
[16:41] <potatoe> r
[16:41] <tbearden> dr_willis: script will run manually, but not from '/etc/rc1.d' when in single user mode
[16:42] <Dulcin> dulcin
[16:42] <drhead> Okay, I am back in. How do I use compiz without Unity?
[16:42] <Gunz4MiPPle> is there a limit on # of indicator applets that will autostart
[16:42] <dli> drhead, shutdown gdm, kill leftover X
[16:42] <Gunz4MiPPle> i seem to recall the number 7
[16:42] <schnuffle> tbearden: first line should be #! /bin/sh
[16:43] <drhead> dli: I actually just checked, there appears to be only one X
[16:43] <neurochrome> schnuffle, can you have a space? #!/bin/bash
[16:43] <tbearden> schnuffle:  still having trouble w/ my script when in 'single user mode'.  script will run manually, but won't run automatically from '/etc/rc1.d'
[16:43] <schnuffle> neurochrome: yes
[16:43] <neurochrome> schnuffle, YLSNED
[16:43] <tbearden> schnuffle; yes, that is the first line
[16:44] <tbearden> schnuffle; then i have several comments indicated by '#', then the first uncommented line is 'PATH=/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin'
[16:45] <schnuffle> tbearden: is your script placed in /etc/init.d and has a symlink to /etc/rc1.d?
[16:46] <schnuffle> tbearden: the script should be called  (S|K)[0-9][0-9].*
[16:46] <schnuffle> tbearden: I mean the symlink in /etc/rc1.d S for start K for kill
[16:47] <tbearden> schnuffle: yes, '/etc/init.d/disk_sync_init1.sh' & '/etc/rc1.d/S98disk_sync_init1.sh -> ../init.d/disk_sync_init1.sh'
[16:48] <h4lfl1ng> hello all, im having trouble exporting an env. var for my root account..
[16:49] <drhead> Okay, clearly compiz is broken.
[16:49] <drhead> Could it be my video drivers?
[16:49] <drhead> Says it is activated but not in use.
[16:50] <h4lfl1ng> When i do export, and then check with env..it's been changed. But as soon as i change user and do sudo env..it's gone
[16:50] <schnuffle> tbearden: You should place it before S90single and S30killprocs, so call it S10disksync
[16:51] <tbearden> schnuffle:  really?  how come?  just curious
[16:52] <Polah> If I do mtime +1 that should remove files two days old? 0 would be today, 1 would be yesterday so +1 is files created before yesterday, correct?
[16:52] <schnuffle> tbearden: If I look into S30killprocs, it kills all processes and S90single already switches to single user moe. I guess you want to sync some disks before that happens
[16:52] <drhead> How can I test my video drivers?
[16:53] <hroi> hi,
[16:53] <savid> Is there a way to tell how long my computer has been "awake"?  Not uptime, but time since it came out of suspended mode.
[16:53] <schnuffle> Polah: +1 means 2 days and older
[16:53] <hroi> how do I change the name of my ubuntu installation?... in the terminal there appears my username @ some name I didnt decide
[16:53] <Polah> schnuffle: So if I ran it now it would remove files created before this time on the 31st?
[16:54] <drhead> I hope the channel operators know that there is a channel mode that will get rid of all the join/part spam
[16:55] <schnuffle> Polah: -mtime n, File's  data was last modified n*24 hours ago
[16:55] <Polah> schnuffle: Ah, okay thanks
[16:55] <rdesfo> hello
[16:56] <schnuffle> Polah: see man find, you get al the options and their meaning
[16:56] <rdesfo> does ubuntu have anything like SUSE Studio?
[16:56] <shellbeginner> Hi everybody
[16:56] <geegeegee> What is the newest version? 11.04?
[16:56] <schnuffle> hroi: that's your hostname that comes from DHCP or that is set in /etc/hosts
[16:57] <sidney> Hi! Has anyone solved a BusyBox error "(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" during installation of natty narwhal?
[16:57] <ThinkT510> !11.04 | geegeegee
[16:57] <shellbeginner> There is a shell script I want to launch every time ubuntu starts. Problem: It never returns and run permanently the whole session. How do I do?
[16:57] <szal> geegeegee: yes
[16:58] <szal> rdesfo: not that I know of
[16:58] <hwilde> shellbeginner,   put an & sign at the end and it will go into the background
[16:58] <schnuffle> shellbeginner: use /etc/rc.local to launch it an d see hwildes comment
[16:58] <rdesfo> szal: that's to bad... thanks for the reply :)
[16:59] <shellbeginner> isn't there any alternative other that using that stupid '&' character?
[17:00] <schnuffle> shellbeginner: maybe you should reroute stdout and stderr like: yourscript.sh  1> /var/log/myscript.log 2> /var/log/myscript.err &
[17:01] <thejam_> Anyone else having a few problems with dual monitors and weird window behaviour in 11.04?
[17:01] <schnuffle> shellbeginner: you can use screen but I don't know what's the problem with &. Scripts are made to do jobs not to look nice
[17:02] <shellbeginner> schnuffle: what about the prompt?
[17:02] <schnuffle> shellbeginner: you can use daemontools, but I guess it you will call it stupid as well :)
[17:02] <schnuffle> shellbeginner: which prompt?
[17:03] <shellbeginner> I wrote a shell script that does nothing but "read -p "press any key" and launched it with the &
[17:03] <shellbeginner> and it didn't go to background
[17:03] <shellbeginner> it asked for the prompt inside the current shell
[17:04] <ciaranm> i've got a cd-drive-less netbook with an existing windows install. there's 100G of unpartitioned space. can wubi install onto that with a proper ext3 filesystem, or do i need to go the livecd route?
[17:04] <tbearden> schnuffle: i don't fully understand 'upstart' and those other processes, 'S30killprocs', and 'S90single', but moving my process to 'S10disksync' worked
[17:04] <schnuffle> shellbeginner: did you added a exit 0 after launching your background script?
[17:05] <shellbeginner> no
[17:05] <tbearden> schnuffle: it worked, but i don't understand why
[17:06] <yellowhead> anyone with an idea of where i can find the network programmers irc on freenode, or can i simply ask here?
[17:06] <_ProGammer> hey
[17:06] <_ProGammer> my keyboard numlock is working like mouse ?!!
[17:06] <_ProGammer> how can i cancel this ?
[17:06] <Pici> _ProGammer: shift or alt numlock, I forget.  Its some modifier key combination.
[17:07] <Pici> yellowhead: ##networking or perhaps the channel for whatever language you're programming in.
[17:07] <Pici> !alis | yellowhead
[17:07] <_ProGammer> Pici: it works thanks
[17:07] <_ProGammer> shift
[17:08] <yellowhead> Pici thanks
[17:09] <schnuffle> tbearden: Okay, so I try a small explanation. The scripts in /etc/init.d are sysv init scripts so nothing to with upstart. Upstart reads them for compability reasons. The number gives the oder in which the scripts are executed. All the K scripts are launched in order before moving to the next level and all S script are executed in order to start something. So you want to sync disks maybe even over network so you 
[17:10] <anli_> Its time to check why this computer hangs all the time
[17:10] <anli_> The graphics freezes
[17:10] <schnuffle> tbearden: As I don't know your script I can only guess what was the problem
[17:12] <drhead> How do I get unity to work without instacrashing?
[17:13] <Polah> drhead: By asking questions that aren't vague and providing details on why it is crashing, i.e. error messages or things that display faultily
[17:14] <tbearden> schnuffle:  thank u for ur help!
[17:14] <anli_> if the graphics freezes on this computer, will the output from dmesg change?
[17:14] <anli_> Isnt dmesg only startup messages?
[17:14] <drhead> Polah: I don't get any error message
[17:14] <Polah> drhead: Can you successfully get into GNOME?
[17:14] <drhead> I type compiz --replace, I see a dock that obviously has a million things in it, and it freezes
[17:15] <drhead> Yes, I can login to metacity
[17:16] <dli> drhead, can you try gnome3?
[17:16] <drhead> What is hat
[17:16] <Polah> drhead: That's not GNOME. On the login screen select "Ubuntu Classic" and try that, and try "Ubuntu Classic (No Effects)" if that fails
[17:16] <drhead> that*
[17:16] <Polah> dli: GNOME3 is unsupported.
[17:16] <dli> drhead, of all compiz, I only need the scale plugin to switch window, and scale is in gnome3
[17:16] <darkc0de>  #ubuntu
[17:16] <Pici> darkc0de: Thats here.
[17:16] <faint545> i have this disk image -- http://pastebin.com/Fd4dT2TR
[17:17] <faint545> how would i mount this?
[17:17] <faint545> i need to access data on this image.
[17:17] <gulzar> I took configuration files of CONKY from net. http://pastebin.com/gF8NHrki. It works fine except that the network area is not working. It shows two boxes with labels but no bar and no info. All other things like CPU usage,RAM usage etc. works fine. I am connected with my cellphone (2G). What change is required?
[17:17] <drhead> Yes, ubuntu (classic mode) works
[17:17] <ChessTeach> i just got a new laptop and I am trying to get it up and running. I installed awesome, and now for some reason the terminal is unable to connect to the internet, firefox can fine, but not the terminal
[17:17] <anli_> If I switch from compiz to metacity, is it less probable that my computer will freeze?
[17:18] <ChessTeach> i get this error 'ping: unknown host www.google.com'
[17:18] <dli> ChessTeach, have a look at /etc/resolv.conf
[17:18] <gulzar> drhead: seems like unity crash is universal. I shifted to LXDE with Docky.
[17:18] <shellbeginner> Ok I think I will use the '&' since there is nothin better
[17:18] <gulzar> drhead: can try ubuntu classic.
[17:18] <gulzar> drhead: wait for 11.10 for gnome3
[17:18] <shellbeginner> but if a script was to ask for prompt it would fail
[17:18] <ChessTeach> dli: its empty, just one commented line
[17:18] <drhead> So for now compiz is unusable?
[17:19] <Polah> ChessTeach: Try ping 8.8.8.8
[17:19] <stealz> can anyone tell me how to minimize a window using xdotool or wmctrl or any other method?
[17:19] <ChessTeach> Polah: network is unreachable
[17:19] <stealz> except clicking the minimize icon =)
[17:20] <ChessTeach> oh wait, maybe i don't have internet at all, i just noticed that firefox was loading a cached page
[17:20] <hroi> schnuffle: I changed the name in /etc/host   and restarted... I still get that old name, probably originally assigned by dhcp during install.
[17:20] <gulzar> drhead: not exactly. The bug is in Unity so you cannot use compiz.... in other way yes it is
[17:20] <stealz> Lol Chess, you are on IRC Arent you? I doubt I speak from your cache ;)
[17:20] <Polah> ChessTeach: That would explain why it can't reach IPs which needn't be resolved
[17:21] <drhead> gulzar: And what is this lxde?
[17:21] <gulzar> I took configuration files of CONKY from net. http://pastebin.com/gF8NHrki. It works fine except that the network area is not working. It shows two boxes with labels but no bar and no info. All other things like CPU usage,RAM usage etc. works fine. I am connected with my cellphone (2G). What change is required?
[17:21] <stealz> oh sorry just saw its on your laptop
[17:21] <ChessTeach> Polah: yeah that is definatly the problem. let me play with this for a second, thanks alot
[17:22] <Polah> stealz, ChessTeach: That's a good point actually. IRC typically continues to work when DNS servers go down but if you can't even ping via ICMP then that's very strange.
[17:22] <gulzar> drhead: just like you have gnome similarly LXDE is another environment but very light on resources. You have other desktops also like KDE
[17:22] <hroi> anyone know where to set the name of my ubuntu machine?   somebody suggested /etc/hosts... but this did nothing.
[17:22] <ChessTeach> Polah: cool everything is working now, stupid cache
[17:22] <drhead> I'll stick with what I have
[17:22] <hroi> im annoyed with my shell prompt being titled  username @ some rubbish name.
[17:22] <chocolates> How do I add sources to ubuntu 11.04 using the software center?
[17:23] <drhead> Wait a second, is there a way that I can uninstall unity so I can use compiz?
[17:23] <deven_> my minimize, maximize, close button gone... how to restore them?
[17:23] <gulzar> drhead: can install from USC. search for LXDE. It will show metapackage(12mb). Install and use. It looks very dull as compared to gnome but it hardly takes 5 min to configure it to make it much better than Unity.
[17:23] <thejam_> chocolates: Edit > software sources?
[17:23] <maco> deven_: are you using 11.04? they might be in the top bar if you move your mouse up there (they should appear)
[17:23] <stealz> can anyone tell me how to minimize a window using xdotool or wmctrl or any other method in a sh script? The window title is 'Quake Terminal'
[17:24] <chocolates> thejam_: Where does it say edit?
[17:24] <drhead> Has anyone had success getting compiz to work by uninstalling unity?
[17:24] <justyn> #python
[17:24] <chocolates> Nvm
[17:24] <deven_> yes i m using 11.04 , they were on top of every window, but now its not having minimize, maximise close button? how to resotore it.
[17:25] <gulzar> drhead: there?
[17:25] <KingXerXes> yes
[17:25] <thejam_> Isn't there an option in compiz/ubuntu-tweak that allows you to move/edit them?
[17:25] <Pici> drhead: you can use compiz just fine by selecting an alternate desktop environment at login time.
[17:25] <Pici> !classic | drhead
[17:25] <edbian> !controls
[17:25] <edbian> thejam_: ^^^
[17:25] <gulzar> chocolates: use synaptic
[17:25] <drhead> So in classic mode compiz WILL run?
[17:26] <Pici> drhead: Yes.
[17:26] <bombshellz> It appears in my case regarding VirtualBox, vboxnet0 is not created for Host-Only Adapter to work
[17:26] <Pici> drhead: or at least it should.
[17:26] <Polah> hroi: You set the name during installation. Open a terminal and do: sudo hostname "<hostname you want>"
[17:27] <deven_> help me plz, i m using 11.04 , they were on top of every window, but now its not having minimize, maximise close button? how to resotore it.
[17:27] <thejam_> I didn't even realise compiz didn't run in Unity?
[17:27] <edbian> thejam_: unity requires compiz to run
[17:27] <thejam_> *facepalm*
[17:27] <gulzar> drhead: i tried various combinations like - XFCE+compiz, Unity+compiz, gnomeclassic+compiz, LXDE+compiz but all of them failed
[17:27] <thejam_> Is it obvious that I've not been using linux for long?
[17:28] <DeezeNuts> My right click button isnt working in ubuntu :)
[17:28] <DeezeNuts> ):
[17:28] <gulzar> deven_: you started compiz???
[17:28] <deven_> yes
[17:28] <justyn> thejam: I have been on it for literally 4 hours only xD
[17:29] <deven_> after that it made my top bar go close minimize maxmise gone gulzar yes i messed something there it seems
[17:29] <thejam_> I've been experimenting and reading as much as possible for the last few weeks, but there's still the 'out of my league' barrier every so often haha. I've completely switched from windows though <3
[17:29] <gulzar> drhead: unity cannot run without compiz....but enabling more effects makes it crash
[17:29] <drhead> Pici: It did not work.
[17:30] <gulzar> 	
[17:30] <gulzar> deven_: then don't use it....by the way what exactly you did?
[17:30] <justyn> thejam_: Nice, I am planning on picking up a lappy and stripping it naked and putting linux onto it and using as my dedicated linux system. But I also want a macbook for school and a bamboo wacom tablet, n2m I have no money ahaha
[17:30] <gulzar> 	
[17:30] <gulzar> drhead: then it will not
[17:31] <Pici> drhead: I haven't read the entire backlog, but perhaps if you explained exactly how its not working we could be of help.
[17:32] <thejam_> Well this is my laptop running Ubuntu 11.04, I did mess with a few others but I've confined them to virtualbox for testing. I have a partition for windows...I just haven't needed to install windows yet, haha. I'm rebuilding my desktop to try and run as a a server, it's just deciding which distro to use. Sell kidneys? I reckon you could get a fair bit for the pair...
[17:32] <drhead> Pici: I run compiz --replace and it crashes
[17:32] <Pici> drhead: Do you get an error?
[17:32] <sundar> hi all.
[17:32] <gulzar> drhead: try unity --reset
[17:33] <drhead> If it'll help I can try to run it in a terminal
[17:33] <sundar> i have problems installing ubuntu natty narwhal on my mac book pro
[17:33] <drhead> Oh, and it is more of a freeze than a crash
[17:33] <gulzar> drhead: try it. It will reset unity to default.
[17:33] <sundar> could someone please help
[17:33] <gulzar> drhead: unity cannot run without compiz. So if unity is running then compiz is also. Install ccsm then configure settings. no need of compiz --replace
[17:34] <drhead> gulzar: Same, froze
[17:34] <gulzar> drhead: it should not. How much video memory you have?
[17:35] <drhead> Should i try the last command in a terminal?
[17:35] <antlong> anyone know the name of the sort that is applied with ls -v
[17:35] <wink_> if i have 2 versions of the same package installed, how do i switch between the active one?  i have the postgresql-client installed (8.4 and 9.0) and all the /usr/bin symlinks point to the 8.4 version, i'd like them to point to 9.0.  is this something i have to do by hand?
[17:35] <drhead> gulzar: I really don't know. If it helps, I have a geforce go 7300 and I have run compiz before
[17:36] <gulzar> drhead: try unity --reset in terminal
[17:36] <sundar> hi. help installing natty on mac book pro!
[17:36] <anli_> Which graphics card is the least problematic card to run linux on?
[17:36] <Pici> antlong: The manpage says: -v     natural sort of (version) numbers within text
[17:36] <anli_> I want to find out that
[17:36] <antlong> Pici theres a real name for it
[17:36] <justyn> thejam_: ahahaha nooo I have a job xD, getting paid thursday enough to either get a laptop or a bamboo tablet, MAYBE both, but also have to consider a mac book is over 1.4K when I throw on all the accessories and taxes that I want and need. IDK I may settle with Ubuntu for school use for a couple months, it isn't that bad.
[17:36] <dli> anli_, not so new intel/radeon
[17:37] <drhead> I tried unity in a terminal, I got a lot of gdk-warning
[17:37] <antlong> Pici ls -v does a numerical sort though, 1, 2, 3, 100 instead of 1, 100, 2, 3
[17:37] <justyn> thejam_: Rather I should say it works just fine, but I really want better battery life
[17:37] <drhead> I also got a critical
[17:37] <gulzar> drhead: if this is the matter then 11.04 is the main prob
[17:37] <thejam_> Oh, one of the sexy top-end tablets? I have a £50 basic tablet that I never use. +1 for impulse buying.
[17:37] <faint545> can someone help me out? i cant get this image to mount -- http://pastebin.com/UuVeqnaJ
[17:37] <drhead> I will try typing it if autocorrect doesn't mangle it.
[17:37] <sundar> anyone could help installing natty on macbook pro?
[17:38] <gulzar> drhead: I am also unable to use it in this release. In previous releases and other distros compiz works fine
[17:38] <thejam_> And that's a big payday if you are going to get all of that, what the hell do you do?! Bloody students eh..
[17:38] <antlong> sundar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1VezJENet8
[17:38] <shellbeginner> Ok then here is a new problem: I launch this command in an other script shell: "./myscript.sh  1> /var/log/myscript.log 2> /var/log/myscript.err &" and it works well, but prints "[: 26: Illegal number: Stopping in Background[fail]" every time
[17:38] <wink_> if i have 2 versions of the same package installed, how do i switch between the active one?  i have the postgresql-client installed (8.4 and 9.0) and all the /usr/bin symlinks point to the 8.4 version, i'd like them to point to 9.0.  is this something i have to do by hand?
[17:39] <shellbeginner> I think this is because the '&' doesnt return 0
[17:39] <drhead> bamf_application_get_desktop_file: assertion '?MF_IS_APPLICATION (application)' failed
[17:39] <shellbeginner> but that is annoying, what should I do to hide this?
[17:40] <sundar> antlong, thanks for the response. I am on a weak internet connection right now. my broadband is out of service. ill have a look at it later. do you have a link?
[17:40] <drhead> The ? is a character that was hidden behind the dock
[17:40] <antlong> sundar i just sent you a link
[17:40] <Bluetegu> Hi there. My t420 doesn't come back from sleep. It doesn't always happen, seems to happen only when I leave it sleeping for a long while. Any way to fix this? Thanks.
[17:41] <sundar> antlong, youtube could choke my connection :)
[17:41] <sundar> antlong, i have cd image for 64bit for mac
[17:42] <gulzar> I took configuration files of CONKY from net. http://pastebin.com/gF8NHrki. It works fine except that the network area is not working. It shows two boxes with labels but no bar and no info. All other things like CPU usage,RAM usage etc. works fine. I am connected with my cellphone (2G). What change is required?
[17:42] <preecher> if i have my harddrive divided into 2 partitions & wish to install another distro on my empty partition what do i do to keep the other distro from being my only choice at boot
[17:42] <glisstech> my natty system running in ubuntu classic is having some weird issue running built in utilities like users-admin and the Ubuntu Software Center
[17:42] <sundar> antlong, when i boot it, seems to load the kernel but it displays a message it couldnt load the live image
[17:42] <drhead> Ah, here is a possible problem!
[17:42] <glebihan> shellbeginner, do you get the same error if you run the command without the & ?
[17:42] <shellbeginner> good grief
[17:43] <shellbeginner> that s not the & then
[17:43] <blackcatnekonegr> what is the command you use to reinstall ubuntu from terminal mode using the online packages?
[17:43] <glebihan> shellbeginner, it must be an error inside the script you're trying to run
[17:43] <glebihan> shellbeginner, could you pastebin that file ?
[17:43] <glisstech> I found this error in the auth.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/657362/
[17:44] <vuth> hi
[17:44] <vuth> is this the help channel
[17:44] <drhead> A tually
[17:44] <drhead> Actually*
[17:44] <glebihan> vuth, yes it is
[17:45] <drhead> I will take a picture of my screen (doubt screenshot will work) and link to it
[17:45] <wink_> if i have 2 versions of the same package installed, how do i switch between the active one?  i have the postgresql-client installed (8.4 and 9.0) and all the /usr/bin symlinks point to the 8.4 version, i'd like them to point to 9.0.  is this something i have to do by hand?
[17:45] <sundar> someone please help installing natty on macbook pro
[17:45] <shellbeginner> glebihan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/657364/
[17:46] <shellbeginner> this is a home made script
[17:46] <vuth> baisic questions...all software for linux mint and ubuntu is compatible correct?
[17:46] <blackcatnekonegr> what is the command you use to reinstall ubuntu from terminal mode using the online packages? Cause my dvd drive breaks cds after a few uses, so is that or to try to make a usb installer, something I have no clue of how to do in linux
[17:46] <vuth> unbuntu, mint, kubutnu, etc..all can work on all OS?
[17:46] <wink_> ugh.
[17:46] <edbian> vuth: I think so.  What are you getting at?
[17:46] <Myrtti> vuth: huh?
[17:46] <shellbeginner> vuth: except for the licences, since mint doesn't really care about theses
[17:47] <vuth> well im on sypnatic
[17:47] <vuth> package manager and for example to install xchat
[17:47] <Myrtti> vuth: installing stuff from other distros isnt supported, for a start.
[17:47] <drhead> Is 'drawable is not a native x11 window' enough to cause problems?
[17:48] <preetam> unable to install any package after upgrading to ubuntu 11.04. system gives error message like "dpkg: error processing openchangeproxy (--configure):
[17:48] <sundar> is there a channel for ubuntu mac?
[17:48] <preetam>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured".
[17:48] <vuth> i typed in xchat and like 6 came up. and
[17:48] <glebihan> shellbeginner, I think the error is in the RUN_Server2Stop.sh file
[17:48] <glisstech> anyone?
[17:49] <vuth> so u recommend using ubuntu software manager only
[17:49] <steelbox> bonsoir
[17:49] <madrid> ola
[17:49] <vuth> first of all ididnt see that..since im used to mint.. and ubuntu software looks much much easier to use  :D
[17:50] <steelbox> à tout hasard, y a-t-il des experts cuda ici ?
[17:50] <glebihan> !fr | steelbox
[17:50] <steelbox> cuda experts here?
[17:50] <since96> hello to you guys
[17:50] <Myrtti> vuth: if you are using ubuntu, you shouldnt have any mint specific tools in the first place
[17:51] <vuth> sypnatics came with ubuntu
[17:51] <since96> i'm installing xubuntu, cool os !
[17:51] <vuth> so i might as well uninstall it?
[17:51] <steelbox> CUDA experts here plz?
[17:52] <since96> previousely, i was under Windows ME x)
[17:52] <bluezone> pfft
[17:52] <Myrtti> vuth: then what are you talking about mint? you dont need to uninstall synaptic
[17:52] <bluezone> since96, what an upgrade! lol
[17:52] <since96> joint #ubuntu-fr
[17:52] <since96> join #ubuntu-fr
[17:53] <shellbeginner> Thank you but I have errors for both
[17:53] <since96> damn!
[17:53] <drhead> Someone look at this: pastebin.com/8WxRBzD5
[17:53] <th0r> since96: /join
[17:53] <BuenGenio> is Enlightenment's Entrance available as a DM in 11.04?
[17:53] <since96> thank you =)
[17:53] <drhead> Last two lines are me killing Xorg
[17:53] <glebihan> shellbeginner, could you pastebin the RUN_Server2Stop.sh file ? (and the other one if you want to)
[17:53] <dr-willis> BuenGenio:  may be ppas for it
[17:53] <stealz> can anyone reccomend a mouse gesture software for ubuntu 10.04
[17:54] <BuenGenio> thanks
[17:54] <vuth> nevermind
[17:54] <vuth> myrtti nevermind
[17:54] <dr-willis> buw
[17:54] <stealz> dr-willis: you're refering to me?
[17:55] <shellbeginner> those two scripts are scripts from the software
[17:55] <shellbeginner> I didn't make them
[17:55] <shellbeginner> They call java commands on a JBoss server
[17:55] <dr-willis> stealz:  huh? dont think so
[17:55] <since96> what is "grub" ?
[17:55] <shellbeginner> I can pastebin them, but don't really know how this might help$
[17:55] <thanius> Hi there, I recently got a 16 gb micro SDHC card which I'm trying to repartitionate for Android. The thing is, after repartitioning and formatting, the second (and swap) partitions appear as unknown filesystems after removing/inserting card. Is there something to SDHC cards or is mine just dodgy? How come only the second++ partitions gets lost?
[17:56] <stealz> ok, nevermind =)
[17:56] <drhead> Could not stat() file ~/.compiz-1/plugins/lib<insertcompizpluginnamehere>.so
[17:56] <glebihan> shellbeginner, well since the error occurs in those scripts, it might help
[17:56] <drhead> Are .so files important?
[17:56] <ernest_> http://pastebin.com/dLw6UFwx
[17:56] <stealz> since96: grub is the boot manager that comes with ubuntu. actually  - grub-2 is
[17:56] <glebihan> drhead, yes
[17:56] <edbian> drhead: extremely
[17:56] <since96> ok, thanks stealz
[17:57] <drhead> then there's my damn problem
[17:57] <stealz> since96: it is the menu that lets you select which system to boot into, and maybe select windows if you are running dualboot
[17:57] <dr-willis> thanius:  id say ask in #android
[17:57] <stealz> or whatever other OS you're running with
[17:57] <drhead> How do I get em back?
[17:57] <Guest80803> hello
[17:57] <thanius> Well, the problem is in ubuntu
[17:57] <thanius> and windows
[17:57] <Guest80803> using IRC for the first time
[17:57] <thanius> I'm not partitioning in Android
[17:57] <Nilzie> thanius: put the card into your android phone and you can format it from there
[17:57] <glisstech> My administration tools...specifically the gui Users and Groups, and Ubuntu Software Center are not working properly
[17:57] <thanius> Nilzie: I could try, I guess I'll have to install ext2 driver...
[17:58] <kitche> drhead: depends on what you deleted but they are hard to get back if you deleted something very important like libc.so.*
[17:58] <glisstech> they open and run, but I can't make any changes, install software, manage user accounts, etc...
[17:58] <drhead> I did not delete them
[17:58] <mneptok> thanius: just use FAT32
[17:58] <edbian> glisstech: How are you opening them??
[17:58] <glebihan> glisstech, how are you launching them ?
[17:58] <drhead> I think they are somewhere like in /usr
[17:58] <edbian> glebihan: I beat you! :P
[17:58] <shellbeginner> ok the start script is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/657370/ and the stop script is there: http://paste.ubuntu.com/657369/ But when I launch them by myself there are no errors, except that they are suspensive. start never returns and stop takes a moment
[17:58] <glebihan> glebihan, yep :)
[17:58] <Guest80803> edbian:I open it through eclipse
[17:59] <thanius> mneptok: It doesn't format the second partition with FAT32, it uses ext.
[17:59] <glisstech> i have tried from the gui, and using sudo users-admin, and gksudo users-admin
[17:59] <picasso> hello. i'm looking to set up a second sshd process on my ubuntu server that listens on a specific IP and port. how can i achieve this?
[17:59] <picasso> copy sshd config and copy the init script?
[17:59] <blackcatnekonegr> any linux tool to create usb flash installer from an iso image?
[17:59] <kitche> drhead: well .so files are all over the place /lib /usr/lib you pretty much need to know where the .so files belong to know where to move them if you moved them to a different folder
[17:59] <edbian> Guest80803: I wasn't talking to you?
[17:59] <edbian> glisstech: mmm, strange.
[17:59] <Guest80803> Hello. I am trying to combine my unused hard drive space with already existing C drive
[18:00] <Guest80803> how can I do it
[18:00] <edbian> glisstech: Can you be more specific?  What are you trying to change that won't change?
[18:00] <drhead> Didn't move em either
[18:00] <glisstech> blackcatnekonegr: yes, follow the instructions here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[18:00] <ThinkT510> !unetbootin | blackcatnekonegr
[18:00] <edbian> Guest80803: boot a liveCD and use gparted
[18:00] <drhead> I doubt they were in the right place to begin with
[18:00] <glisstech> I am trying to give a second user administrative permissions
[18:00] <Guest80803> edbian: is gparted available in the software center?
[18:01] <mneptok> thanius: "it?"
[18:01] <edbian> Guest80803: Yes, it's installed on a liveCD by default
[18:01] <since96> is there google chrome under xubuntu ?
[18:01] <kitche> drhead: well then you need to figure out what you did since the .so files are placed exactly where they are suppose to be
[18:01] <ThinkT510> since96: yes, xubuntu shares the same repos as ubuntu
[18:02] <ThinkT510> since96: sorry, there is chromium-browser but not chrome
[18:02] <me-1> hi...its me or ubuntu with unity is looking very similar to Mac OS X
[18:02] <Guest80803> why is my name shown as guest  and not the one I have kept
[18:02] <stealz> since96: you can probably install it
[18:02] <drhead> kitche: I found them where they should be, I'll copy em all to .compiz-1
[18:02] <ThinkT510> !info chromium-browser | since96
[18:02] <bluezone> me-1, yes, that's why it sucks :)
[18:02] <glisstech> edbian: I originally had some issues with wine and somehow messed up my wife's user profile in trying to fix it
[18:02] <stealz> since96: with sudo apt-get install chrome
[18:02] <me2resh> bluezone lol
[18:03] <since96> ok thakyou
[18:03] <edbian> glisstech: Did you edit the sudoer's file?
[18:03] <faint545> when i run "gedit somefile" in terminal, how do i get it so that it runs in the background so the terminal isnt occupied after i run the command?
[18:03] <stealz> but I dont know what the default is, its probably firefox
[18:03] <fission6> i changed my host name but now i keep getting issues trying to resolve it, any idea? i do sudo hostname mybrandnewname and get can not resolve hostname
[18:03] <petsounds> drhead: Just wondering, what video card u have?
[18:03] <stealz> I am running ubuntu myself
[18:03] <edbian> glisstech: That is, do these guis work if you log in as yourself and run them??
[18:03] <glisstech> edbian: no sir
[18:03] <picasso> anyone? trying to create a second sshd with different config. where do i do this?
[18:03] <dr-willis> faint545:   gedit &
[18:03] <glebihan> shellbeginner, I think the problem might come from redirecting the standard output
[18:03] <edbian> fission6: Fix it in /etc/resolv.conf
[18:03] <Guest80803> Why is my name shown as Guest?
[18:03] <DeezeNuts> because you didnt set a nickname
[18:04] <fission6> ed1703, how?
[18:04] <stealz> Guest80803: are you using a web client?
[18:04] <glisstech> edbian: They run, but I can't make any changes
[18:04] <kitche> Guest80803: because you didn't identify most likely
[18:04] <Pici> Guest80803: Because someone else owns the nick you wanted.
[18:04] <edbian> fission6: sorry, I meant, fix it in /etc/hosts
[18:04] <stealz> Guest80803: type /nick yourname
[18:04] <glebihan> shellbeginner, could you try removing the "1> /var/log/adempiere_start.log"
[18:04] <fission6> what do you mean by fix it?
[18:04] <dr-willis> faint545:  see bash job controll guides for details :(
[18:04] <glisstech> edbian: i see a failed authentication message when I try to change anything
[18:04] <edbian> glisstech: You have two users.  If you log in as your user do they work?  If you log in as your wife do they work?
[18:04] <Pici> Guest80803: If you need help with IRC stuff, please ask in #freenode
[18:04] <dr-willis> ;)
[18:04] <edbian> glisstech: I think one or both of you is not a sudoer
[18:04] <exxtreme> Guest80803...set up an account in your messenger's preferences and save it. Then you can login with that nic automatically each time.
[18:04] <vf-1j> Greetings all, my seamonkey application keeps crashing. Here is the terminal output when it occurs: http://pastebin.com/8C6Bv1xL
[18:04] <glisstech> edbian: but dont get prompted for my password
[18:04] <edbian> fission6: take a look at the file, it will be obvious.  If not ask me again :)
[18:05] <edbian> glisstech: are you going to answer my question or not
[18:05] <edbian> ?
[18:05] <shellbeginner> I can do that, but that script logs a lot of stuff and my shell will nearly explode
[18:05] <Pici> picasso: That sounds good to me.  Make sure that the init script uses the right arguments to use a custom conf file.
[18:05] <fission6> edbian,  i see this line 127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost
[18:05] <glisstech> edbian: I am running this under my account, hers is not administrative account, I was trying to change her account type to admin when I discovered this
[18:05] <edbian> fission6: that is fine, do you see your old hostname in there at all?
[18:05] <edbian> glisstech: Did you edit the sudoers file by hand?
[18:06] <fission6> no but i dont know what my oldhostname would be?
[18:06] <edbian> glisstech: are you online?  Can you pastebin /etc/sudoers for me?  (paste.ubuntu.com)
[18:06] <glisstech> edbian: no sir
[18:06] <fission6> i never set it, its a new linode instance
[18:06] <edbian> fission6: You said you changed your hostname right?  Do you not remember it?
[18:06] <glebihan> shellbeginner, it's just a test to know whether the problem comes from there
[18:06] <glisstech> edbian: yes...just a sec
[18:06] <edbian> glisstech: waiting... :)
[18:06] <fission6> well i did, but i dont think it "stuck", either way i dont see it in the /hosts file
[18:07] <edbian> fission6: can you pastebin your /etc/hosts file for me to see?  paste.ubuntu.com
[18:07] <shellbeginner> ok
[18:07] <glisstech> edbian: I dont see any information in the file
[18:08] <glisstech> edbian: what should I use to open it? I tried kate
[18:08] <n1k_h0lm3s> whats the shortcut for refresh in ubuntu
[18:08] <edbian> glisstech: you made a typo then     /etc/sudoers
[18:08] <kissima> Hi
[18:08] <edbian> glisstech: If it truely is empty you have big problem.
[18:08] <kissima> Is someone speak French here???
[18:08] <kitche> !fr > kissima
[18:08] <bluezone> kissima, #ubuntu-fr
[18:09] <bluezone> so close to beating you xD
[18:09] <glisstech> edbian: I am able to use sudo from terminal with my account
[18:09] <vf-1j> Greetings all, my seamonkey application keeps crashing. Here is the terminal output when it occurs: http://pastebin.com/8C6Bv1xL
[18:09] <GirlyGirl_> genii-around: Maybe it was stupid on a carpet
[18:09] <glisstech> edbian: any idea how to fix it?
[18:09] <EgyParadox> !ar
[18:09] <Pici> GirlyGirl_: psst, wrong channel.
[18:09] <GirlyGirl_> Sorry that was meant for #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:09] <edbian> glisstech: Is it working correctly?  what is in the file?
[18:10] <edbian> glisstech: gksudo gedit /etc/sudoers
[18:10] <n1k_h0lm3s> What is the short cut for refresh in ubuntu?
[18:10] <edbian> glisstech: If you can sudo the file is likely not blank
[18:11] <glisstech> edbian: here ya go...http://paste.ubuntu.com/657378/
[18:12] <edbian> glisstech: run groups  at the cli  are you in the admin group  ?
[18:12] <shellbeginner> it still fails
[18:12] <shellbeginner> without the redirection
[18:13] <glisstech> edbian: yes, and i used sudo usermod -G admin username to add hers to the admin group, but cannot sudo as her user
[18:13] <shellbeginner> it immediately prints the error, and then the lot of stuff it usually logs
[18:13] <glebihan> shellbeginner, ok I might have an idea, let me run a few tests
[18:13] <kitche> glisstech: by chance did you log out and log back in as her user?
[18:13] <vf-1j> Greetings all, my seamonkey application keeps crashing. Here is the terminal output when it occurs: http://pastebin.com/8C6Bv1xL
[18:13] <edbian> glisstech: You have to log out and log in for group and user changes to take effect :)
[18:14] <glisstech> kitche: yes, and have rebooted several times as well
[18:14] <shellbeginner> last thing: without the redirect and without the '&' there is no problem
[18:14] <drhead> Could somebody who happens to have a working copy of unity start it with --verbose and give me a log so I have something to compare it to?
[18:14] <shomon> hi, my ubuntu 10.10 boots up to a black screen with a mouse pointer in the middle. you can't reach terminals with ctrl alt f keys, itls completely frozen. I just booted in with grub, but how do I diagnose from here how to get it booting again?
[18:14] <shellbeginner> so it seems the '&' is somehow linked to the error
[18:15] <vf-1j> What does 'buffer overflow' mean?
[18:15] <bkerensa> shomon: Hmm
[18:15] <drhead> When my unity freezes the last line is Setting Update "fullscreen_visual_bell"
[18:16] <edbian> vf-1j: It means a buffer that has so much stuff in it that stuff gets lost cause the buffer is not large enough to hold it all
[18:16] <glebihan> shellbeginner, yes the problem comes from the "&" and the usage of "log_action_end_msg"
[18:16] <dr-willis>  vf-1j  fitting more bits in your allocated bytes then it can hold.
[18:16] <shomon> I can see hd0...
[18:16] <glebihan> shellbeginner, replace "log_action_end_msg "Starting in Background" by "log_action_end_msg 0"
[18:16] <Guest19760> Hello! I've got a question relating hardware: Today I assembled a new computer but the only component showing some action when pressing the ON-button is the power supply. It makes one clicking sound and that's it. First I thought that the power supply is to weak (Be quiet! Dark Power Pro 650 W)  so I activated the Overclocking Key, which should help. Which it didn't. So I temporarily removed the graphics card (Zotac GeForce GTX 570) tempo
[18:16] <Guest19760> rarily. No effect. What could be the reason for this?
[18:16] <vf-1j> edbian, This is attributed to my Seamonkey application
[18:16] <bkerensa> shomon: Have you tried alt-sysrq-k?
[18:17] <shellbeginner> it it is only that, I will use a basic echo instead
[18:17] <glisstech> edbian, kitche: I am going to reboot and try again real quick just to be sure
[18:17] <vf-1j> dr-willis, This is attributed to my seamonkey application when ever I launch it http://pastebin.com/8C6Bv1xL
[18:17] <glebihan> shellbeginner, you can do that too
[18:17] <edbian> vf-1j: Seamonkey is a browser?
[18:17] <edbian> glisstech: k
[18:17] <shellbeginner> I used the log console because I adapted a script I found somewhere on the doc
[18:17] <vf-1j> edbian, Correct
[18:18] <shellbeginner> ah sorry I didn't see your suggestion
[18:18] <shellbeginner> I will try it
[18:18] <bkerensa> shomon: You could also hold shift during boot and edit grub so its not quiet
[18:18] <vf-1j> Does anyone know how to repair an application when "buffer overflow detected" occurs?
[18:18] <bkerensa> shomon: Just remove "quiet splash" and replace with "text"
[18:18] <dr-willis> vf-1j:  file a bug report.
[18:18] <glebihan> edbian, seamonkey is a fork from mozilla
[18:18] <edbian> vf-1j: I don't know what buffer it is referring to (or what buffers there are).  Usually buffers are used to accept packets on the network card.  If too many packets are recieved (before they can be processed) the buffer will overflow with packets and they'll be lost.  This is what happens in a DDOS attack
[18:19] <edbian> glebihan: i see
[18:19] <Pici> shellbeginner: by the way, you might find #bash helpful as well, even just for watching other questions it is very informative.
[18:19] <shomon> thanks bkerensa
[18:19] <dr-willis> vf-1j:  hard for a nonprogramer to even debug
[18:19] <shellbeginner> thank you very much for your suggestion and you help
[18:19] <glebihan> shellbeginner, you're welcome
[18:19] <shomon> I'm just in grub now, but I have no idea wheree to switch to text
[18:20] <vf-1j> dr-willis, this happens with a lot of Ubuntu programs it seems
[18:20] <bergeron> Hello! can someone give me a hand? A friend installed ubuntu for another friend of mine, but spelled his name wrong. Is there a simple way of changing your full name (ie in 'My Info')?
[18:20] <shellbeginner> I asked in this channel because I am trying to make it a service ubuntu, but it appears my error wasn't in relation with ubuntu
[18:20] <shomon> I did come and ask a couple of days ago, and they said to boot into the console...
[18:20] <shellbeginner> thanks for the hing
[18:20] <dr-willis> vf-1j: ive rarely seen the issue.
[18:20] <shellbeginner> *hint
[18:20] <bkerensa> shomon: There are some help with this on forums want me to send you the link?
[18:21] <vf-1j> dr-willis, So far it occurred with Gimp, Seamonkey, and one other application
[18:21] <shomon> where do I go to remove uiet splash bkerensa?
[18:22] <dr-willis> vf-1j:  yoi may want to be running some memtest on your system
[18:22] <bkerensa> shomon: http://bit.ly/q3w711 <-- there are quite a few ubuntuforum threads with some tricks and solutions
[18:22] <vf-1j> dr-willis, I have four gigs o ram
[18:22] <vf-1j> dr-willis, It is very likely a software issue
[18:22] <bkerensa> shomon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[18:22] <shomon> thanks bkerensa! will try that
[18:22] <dr-willis> vf-1j:  very likely bad ram also
[18:22] <vf-1j> dr-willis, Are you a betting man?
[18:23] <vf-1j> this is easy money]
[18:23] <bergeron> eheehee, it's in users and groups. How... logical.
[18:23] <dr-willis> see what memtest says. you want to aegue or troubleshoot..
[18:23] <Pinguincsc> hello
[18:23] <vf-1j> dr-willis, No, seriously it is not a hardware issue, I am very rigorous about that
[18:23] <dr-willis> whatever then
[18:23] <edbian> vf-1j: It is definitely a software issue.  Buffers exist only in software
[18:24] <Pinguincsc> I want to buld a linux box to serve as a mail and file server
[18:24] <edbian> vf-1j: Have you done a memtest recently?  If not then you can't claim you're rigorous about checking hardware
[18:24] <vf-1j> edbian, thanks, I think a solution is to build from source and launch the application manuallyu
[18:24] <vf-1j> edbian, Yes I do regularly
[18:24] <drhead> Think I found the culprit
[18:25] <edbian> vf-1j: Are you overclocking?
[18:25] <drhead> Unity-window-decorator
[18:25] <vf-1j> edbian, No
[18:25] <edbian> vf-1j: You want to compile every program that is doing this from source?
[18:25] <drhead> Tried compiz and the last message before it froze was that!
[18:25] <Pinguincsc> The mail part should replace MS Exchange 5.5, so I need a way to import all mailboxes and address boks
[18:25] <BrianMBI> Where do I acquire 10.04LTS Server netboot files?
[18:26] <BrianMBI> I have a server I need to image with no DVD
[18:26] <joru> Hi, i'm trying to learn how to use "quickly". Running "quickly design" results in nothing at all. ideas? location of log-files?
[18:26] <vf-1j> edbian, Seamonkey is a modest browser application, however I store a lot of e-mails. As for compiling from source, it seems to be the only way to get the program I need to work. Alternately, I can just use another distro. For instance, this issue never occurs in Slackware
[18:26] <nmvictor> Do i have to set permissions on my usb hubs to have my java application traverse through them , if how do I set the permissions on my usb ports in ubuntu?
[18:26] <edbian> vf-1j: Sounds like you have the answers to your own questions.
[18:27] <OsakaFoo> hi, just got all the way though to "configure package manager" and for some reason it decided to disconnect the usb which it was installing to. Is there any way to continue the install?
[18:27] <nyankipz> how do I wipe unity from the face of known existance?
[18:27] <nyankipz> perhaps even unknown or potential existance?
[18:27] <vf-1j> edbian, No, the buffer memory thing is still an issue I have not resolved with Ubuntu\
[18:27] <Pinguincsc> any suggestions?
[18:28] <joru> i am following this tutorial: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Quickly
[18:28] <raven> how to enumerate files with x+2?
[18:28] <edbian> vf-1j: I have no idea what is causing the problem.  I can only suggest test to start doing that are very generic like changing the kernel
[18:28] <vf-1j> edbian, There is an idea
[18:28] <edbian> vf-1j: perhaps it's a good one
[18:28] <Pici> raven: What do you mean?
[18:29] <edbian> joru: What are you confused about?  Have you run quickly tutorial ubuntu-application
[18:29] <raven> Pici, 001.ext 003.ext 005.ext ....
[18:29] <thehodge> afternoon all, I'm running 10.4 and having a bit of trouble, whenever I run cron status (or cron start) I get status: Unable to connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory , google has really not been helpful in this search
[18:29] <vf-1j> edbian, It sounds about right
[18:29] <edbian> vf-1j: good luck
[18:29] <vf-1j> edbian, Thanks for your help]
[18:30] <edbian> vf-1j: sure
[18:30] <BrianMBI> Where do I acquire 10.04LTS Server netboot files?
[18:30] <joru> edbian: I am following the tutorial yes
[18:30] <edbian> joru: What are you confused about?
[18:30] <Pici> raven: You could either use a loop in bash, or use 'find' restricted to the current directory and with a regex for odd numbers.  I'm sure there are a bunch of other ways to do it too.
[18:31] <joru> edbian: in the Getting started section i am told to execute "quickly design" but this does not give me a glad interface designer window
[18:31] <joru> edbian: the call just returns
[18:32] <edbian> joru: I think you have to do quickly create ubuntu-application foo  and cd to foo first
[18:32] <shomon> ok I'm sorry but I went on a page to do with the blank screen with cursor of death in ububtu 10.10, and it looks like a different thing to what I'm getting
[18:32] <joru> edbian: yes, have done
[18:32] <edbian> joru: do all the other commands work?
[18:32] <joru> edbian: i've followed it from the start :/
[18:32] <joru> edbian: yes
[18:33] <shomon> they can reboot, or press enter or wait, nothing works on mine, and now I can't even get into grub
[18:33] <edbian> joru: I think it's starting and crashing very quickly  can you do quickly -v design or quickly -vv design  ?
[18:34] <joru> edbian: quickly -v/-vv design is not a command
[18:34] <shomon> it just boots straight into the crash screen. I couldn't press e to edit and get text, not sure I understand...
[18:34] <joru> edbian: quickly design -v/-vv returns right away
[18:34] <edbian> joru: darn (trying to get verbose)
[18:34] <edbian> joru: I think the program is running and crashing immediately
[18:35] <Narc> Hey everyone. I'm running into a weird problem with two Ubuntu boxes, running 11.04. We're unable to send files to each other, with empathy, over Jabber. We both forwarded ports 5222, 8010 and 8080 to no avail. Any advice anyone? Thanks.
[18:35] <joru> edbian: i'm going to restarts since i've rotated some passwords/keyrings
[18:35] <edbian> joru: ok
[18:35] <shomon> how doi get grub to show me a screen with all kernels memory tests etc again?
[18:35] <edbian> shomon: press shift during boot
[18:35] <nmvictor> is usbfs supported in ubuntu linux?
[18:36] <joru> edbian: got a question about the key when i ran quicly create and i think I failed
[18:36] <joru> edbian: brb
[18:37] <shomon> edbian I pressed shift during boot, it goes to a prompt, I can type for about a second, and thenblank screen with a mouse pointer
[18:37] <edbian> shomon: Is ubuntu not booting correctly?
[18:38] <Twexcom-NP> Hello.
[18:38] <shomon> no, I came and explained here a while ago, and was told to boot into grub, now nothing I do seems to avoid the frozen black screen
[18:38] <vf-1j> Hahahahahahahaha http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14370878
[18:38] <Pici> !pt | vf-1j
[18:38] <Pici> !ot | vf-1j
[18:39] <edbian> shomon: Have you tried nomodeset kernel option at the grub menu?
[18:40] <shomon> yay, I got into grub this time. should I switch uiet splah with text first, edbian?
[18:40] <Twexcom-NP> What is the location of the proxy configuration file in Ubuntu 10.04?
[18:41] <edbian> shomon: take quiet and splash out.  add in nomodeset boot.  This post explains in greater detail:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[18:41] <burgua> hi all! I'm using 10.10 but have some strange situation. I cannot remove bluetooth icon from tray (
[18:41] <nmvictor> Where is Universal serial Bus mapped to, I cant find it in /proc/bus/, I only see /proc/bus/pci/ and /proc/bus/input/. Where can I find what used to be /proc/bus/usb?
[18:41] <edbian> shomon: You're doing How to temporarily set kernel boot options on an installed OS (not wubi)
[18:41] <shomon> ok thanks! on a mobile so brb..
[18:42] <juboba> how can I configure RaLink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe on Ubuntu 10.04
[18:42] <juboba> ?
[18:42] <juboba> how can I configure RaLink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe on Ubuntu 10.04?
[18:42] <bolshevik> right click on the bluetooth icon and remove it
[18:42] <bolshevik> how hard can it be?
[18:43] <edbian> shomon: sure
[18:43] <burgua> bolshevik:  comrade bolshevik, it will remove entire indicator widget
[18:44] <burgua> bolshevik:  and unchecking in preferences of bluetooth has no effect
[18:45] <betasoft> i coudn't uninstall xpdf, remind me the command line please
[18:45] <Twexcom-NP> I want to set my Ubuntu 10.04 livecd to a particular proxy configuration so that I won't have  to keep changing that setting every time it starts. Help?
[18:45] <daanish> What's the easiest way to install Adobe Air on an amd64 system?
[18:46] <joru> edbian: no luck on quickly design
[18:46] <EgyParadox> juboba:http://www.halibutdepot.org/how_to_build_rt3090_for_ubuntu_lucid/
[18:46] <edbian> joru: man quickly
[18:47] <daanish> What's the easiest way to install Adobe Air on an amd64 system?
[18:48] <thejam_> anyone know of a method of syncing/managing my iphone 4 on 11.04? So far all of the programs using libimobile can only read to it :|
[18:48] <juboba> thanks EgyParadox
[18:48] <Eiriksvinr> Hello, I'm wondering how to automatically bypass the "Try Ubuntu" or "Install Ubuntu" installer on a Ubuntu Live USB? Is there a way to just boot Ubuntu without having to wait through all of that?
[18:49] <Murphant> \join #mathematica
[18:49] <ThinkT510> !usb | Eiriksvinr
[18:49] <shomon> hi again, I tried nomodeset, and I still got a blank screen, can I use grub to maybe edit some X11 config?
[18:50] <nmvictor> Got it, usbfs could be replaced by sysfs, not sure. But /proc/bus/usb is now accessible as /dev/bus/usb. If anyone cares to know that.
[18:50] <shomon> I put it on its own line in the grub editor, and replaced quiet splash with text
[18:50] <miceiken> Hello.
[18:51] <miceiken> Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2) - I am gettng this error, any easy fix?
[18:51] <daanish> thejam_ look at this: http://fuckyeahubuntu.tumblr.com/post/6373470104/some-simple-steps-to-ensure-ipod-iphone-sync
[18:51] <edbian> shomon: nomodeset needs to go on the same line that quiet and splash were on.  (the same line as text).  The link I gave explaines this in detail
[18:51] <BluesKaj> odd, because that command worked great previously..suddenly it's trying copy my whole home directory instead of a folder in the directory
[18:51] <jfcaron> What packages are recommended to get good Unicode font coverage?  I'd ideally like to have a font for every BMP codepoint.
[18:52] <shomon> miceiken, you could try "sudo ufw add mysql" I think
[18:52] <BluesKaj> oops
[18:52] <nmvictor> shomon: whats ur problem with the blank screen, sounds familiar
[18:52] <miceiken> add isnt a accepted argument for ufw shomon
[18:52] <shomon> ah sorry then I didn't read it properly
[18:52] <lesnik_> hi
[18:52] <claviusmond> I havent tried to change my appereance preferences at all, but somehow they have changed: now I dont see white text over black background, but the other way round, and the minimize close icons are back to top right, not top left, what is going on?
[18:52] <BluesKaj> getting some strange behaviour with scp -r copying a folder to another linux machine on our network ...it's copying the whole /home/user directory rather than /home/user/folder
[18:52] <nimbiotics> hello all, Is there any program that would allow me to manipulate and ISO file? eg; I need to delete a folder within the iso file. Can this be done? I tried acetoneiso,  but it does not allow me to delete folders. TIA!
[18:52] <claviusmond> and how do i revert?
[18:53] <daanish> What's the easiest way to install Adobe Air on an amd64 system?
[18:54] <edbian> nimbiotics: you can mount (and then edit?) the iso
[18:54] <thehodge> okay it turns out i was being an idiot and fixed my last question with a simple apt get
[18:54] <shomon> nmvictor I have this acer laptop, which had windows until it crashed and I couldn't get in again, so I'm trying to figure out what is broken
[18:54] <thehodge> however I still cannot get this cronjob running at all...
[18:54] <kitche> daanish: most likely from adobe website
[18:54] <shomon> it keeps crashing even with linux on it
[18:54] <miceiken> Anyone?
[18:54] <miceiken> Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2) - I am gettng this error, any easy fix?
[18:54] <joru> edbian: quickly --verbose design returns /bin/sh: glade-3: not found
[18:54] <drhead> ubuntu-desktop is just a package marked with tons of dependencies and doesn't contain anything important, right?
[18:55] <joru> edbian: only got glade here
[18:55] <kitche> miceiken: is the mysql server started?
[18:55] <shomon> yes miceiken you need to open that port
[18:55] <edbian> joru: you have glad installed?
[18:55] <miceiken> kitche yes
[18:55] <edbian> glade*
[18:55] <joru> edbian: yes i can run it standalone
[18:55] <daanish> kitche: not really - they don't have a 64bit .deb yet
[18:55] <edbian> joru: is it version 3?
[18:55] <wildc4rd> evenin all
[18:55] <miceiken> shomon, wtf, the server is running just fine this is when a gameserver is trying to connect to my server
[18:56] <Escherial> hey, is there any way to prevent other apps from stealing focus when they launch? it's kind of annoying at first
[18:56] <kitche> daanish: and what's your point you can still install it it's multilib you would need to look into
[18:56] <edbian> joru: PM me?
[18:56] <lesnik_> I was using ubuntu 10.04 for about one year on my desktop. I don't know why but i decided to install 11.04 32 bit. After that suspend to ram not working anymore. Could you give me some advice where can I find cause of this? Which log should I check?
[18:56] <earthling> miceiken, look up my.cnf in /etc folder it will tell where the log file is.... in the log file u can see what the actual error is
[18:56] <joru> k
[18:56] <astraljava> drhead: You can always check the package's files with `dpkg -L <package>`, so you don't have to guess. :)
[18:56] <daanish> kitche - I was hoping there'd be a ppa with a 64bit deb somewhere
[18:56] <daanish> kitche - there used to be, it isn't working anymore
[18:57] <kitche> daanish: from what I seen Adobe doesn't even have a 64bit out at all for any operating system
[18:57] <lucian> hello. i'm on maverick ARM, using unity-2d. i have a problem, maximised windows still have a title bar, with window controls too. so i get two sets of button tontrols
[18:57] <Escherial> actually, have to go, but thank you to whoever was contemplating an answer :3
[18:57] <nimbiotics> hello all, Is there any program that would allow me to manipulate and ISO file? eg; I need to delete a folder within the iso file. Can this be done? I tried acetoneiso,  but it does not allow me to delete folders. TIA!
[18:57] <miceiken> earthling, there are no errors since yesterday
[18:57] <miceiken> and they are totally irrelevant to this
[18:57] <daanish> kitche - yes, but people have made 64 bit debs themselves.. it doesn't matter anyway I recompiled it myself using it myself. Thanks anyway
[18:58] <earthling> miceiken, what about disk space usage df -h
[18:58] <lesnik_> nimbiotics: try to use mc
[18:58] <miceiken> ive got plenty of space
[18:58] <drhead> How do I find out what package a file belongs to?
[18:59] <polygon-pusher> hello everyone
[18:59] <nimbiotics> lesnik_: what is mc?
[18:59] <thejam> Also, I didn't see your reply daanish, I'll check it now, thanks.
[18:59] <polygon-pusher> I have a video card problem I was hoping someone could help me out with
[18:59] <daanish> thejam you're welcome
[18:59] <daanish> thejam hope it helps
[18:59] <polygon-pusher> I installed cuda but after I words I could only get the terminal.
[18:59] <OmegaForte> polygon-pusher, What's the issue?
[18:59] <earthling> miceiken, so the file /var/log/mysql.err empty ? bummer ...
[19:00] <lesnik_> nimbiotics: midnight commander
[19:00] <mobidyc_> oin #ubuntu-fr
[19:00] <polygon-pusher> I have since removed my xorg.conf to get back into the UI
[19:00] <nimbiotics> lesnik_: THX
[19:00] <polygon-pusher> sorry not removed but renamed
[19:00] <OmegaForte> polygon-pusher, So do you need a new xorg.conf file?
[19:00] <polygon-pusher> I think so
[19:00] <polygon-pusher> maybe a reconfig
[19:00] <miceiken> earthling, yes. where is the mysql.sock supposed to be?
[19:00] <miceiken> by default config
 I already have it on a USB, but I am having trouble skipping the Installer, is there a way to bypass the installer?
[19:01] <polygon-pusher> not sure how to start that
[19:01] <wols> Eiriksvinr: alternate installer, that one's not a live cd
[19:01] <earthling> miceiken, dude it clearly says ... /tmp/mysql.sock
[19:01] <ThinkT510> Eiriksvinr: it sounds to me you want a persistant install (not a liveusb install)
[19:01] <ThinkT510> !usb | Eiriksvinr
[19:01] <OmegaForte> polygon-pusher, Easy enough. Reboot into recovery mode, boot failsafe graphics, select reconfigure X, choose default x config.
[19:01] <miceiken> earthling, yes and clearly that isnt the default place for it to be
[19:02] <miceiken> since its not there
[19:02] <polygon-pusher> thank you
[19:02] <ThinkT510> Eiriksvinr: see the last link there?
[19:02] <kitche> miceiken: that is the default place for it to be you have to figure out why mysql is not making the .sock
[19:02] <Eiriksvinr> yeah, I see it
[19:02] <miceiken> ln -s /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock /tmp/mysql.sock
[19:02] <miceiken> that fixed it
[19:02] <Eiriksvinr> I'm checking into it now
[19:02] <earthling> miceiken, what is the command u use to connect to mysql ?
[19:02] <miceiken> thanks for nothing :)
[19:02] <Eiriksvinr> thanks
[19:03] <earthling> pffff........
[19:04] <Unknown_Frequenc> Hi everyone. I'm kinda new to Linux and played around with some "chmod, adduser, addgroup and chown" in a folder called "test" I created in my home folder. Suddently I got got error "username is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported."
[19:04] <Unknown_Frequenc> Any idea what could have caused this?
[19:04] <astraljava> drhead: dpkg -S <file> will list packages that provide a file.
[19:05] <edbian> Unknown_Frequenc: adduser and addgroup are not restricted to a folder and do not take effect until a restart ;)
[19:05] <Unknown_Frequenc> but how could I have unset my sudo rights?
[19:06] <edbian> Unknown_Frequenc: by removing yourself from the admin group, editing the sudoers file, or switching users entirely
[19:06] <wols> Unknown_Frequenc: no. run sudo again. sudo rights are managed by /etc/sudoers
[19:06] <Unknown_Frequenc> ahh.. I guess I messed with the user groups
[19:06] <Unknown_Frequenc> i know.. I managed to fix it again by rebooting in safe mode and visudo
[19:06] <edbian> Unknown_Frequenc: :)  Make sure you're in the admin group
[19:07] <Unknown_Frequenc> how do I do that? I just changed /etc/sudoer and added my username agaIN
[19:07] <Unknown_Frequenc> that's enough right?
[19:07] <Eiriksvinr> Ok, I'm looking into the best option for being a stand alone mobile Ubuntu and the Startup Disk creator option seems to be the best, does it save all of my settings, and can it be used on any computer (so long as its compatible)?
[19:08] <mobidyc_>  #ubuntu-fr
[19:08] <edbian> Unknown_Frequenc: In ubuntu instead of having individual users in the sudoers file they have an admin group.  Anyone in the admin group can sudo.  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-linux-add-user-to-group/
[19:08] <rizzuh_laptop> How do I set the notifications delay? I think they stay visible for way too long and they block a very imporant section of my IDE.
[19:08] <Unknown_Frequenc> oki, i'll read that. thanks man!
[19:09] <ThinkT510> Eiriksvinr: it will boot on any pc that can boot from usb (and is set to do so in the bios)
[19:09] <Unknown_Frequenc> last question. how can I see which group i'm part of?'
[19:09] <ThinkT510> id
[19:09] <maujhsn> WHILE TRYING TO BOOT INTO UBUNTU FROM THE WINDOWS BOOT MANAGER
[19:09] <maujhsn> THE UBUNTU SCREEN MESSAGE READS AS FOLLOWS:
[19:09] <maujhsn> "AN ERROR HAS OCCURRED WHILE MOUNTING
[19:09] <FloodBot1> maujhsn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:09] <Eiriksvinr> ThinkT510: right, thats what I'm looking for
[19:10] <edbian> Unknown_Frequenc: groups
[19:10] <edbian> Unknown_Frequenc: just run 'groups' at the cli
[19:10] <lyff> Help (sorry for my english) I've installed ubuntu on my vista on a partition of 20go, but when i boot my pc i can find boot choice
[19:10] <appi_uppi> hi need help in configuriong dyndns
[19:10] <Unknown_Frequenc> oki. Thanks again
[19:10] <edbian> Unknown_Frequenc: sure
[19:10] <lyff> *i can't find boot choice
[19:10] <wmp> hello, i want to install ubutnu alternate on VirtualBox, but ubuntu say to me that havent kernel to my machine
[19:10] <appi_uppi> followed the steps provided in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DynamicDNS
[19:10] <Eiriksvinr> ThinkT510: its easy to hit f2 or esc or whatever and change the boot options temporarily, or even perm, but I just needed to know that
[19:10] <Unknown_Frequenc> and I just add myself to 'admin' group
[19:11] <seclm193> How is everything today?
[19:11] <ThinkT510> Eiriksvinr: good stuff :) enjoy your persistant install
[19:12] <edbian> Unknown_Frequenc: you have to reboot (or log out and back in) for group / user changes to take effect
[19:12] <Eiriksvinr> ThinkT510: my only problem is, when I drop my USB into my home PC I can't access the files I download and I have to sync my Firefox all the time
[19:12] <edbian> Unknown_Frequenc: yes, add yourself to admin and you should be able to sudo (as long as %admin is in /etc/sudoers)
[19:13] <Eiriksvinr> I have to boot my USB, transfer files, restart, then transfer them again
[19:13] <ThinkT510> Eiriksvinr: you should be able to access whatever you download
[19:13] <Narc> Hello everyone. I'm trying to transfer files between two 11.04 boxes with empathy over XMPP (Jabber) to no avail. Any advice please ? Thanks a lot.
[19:13] <Eiriksvinr> Ok, so the new persistant USB will fix that?
[19:14] <joo__> Does anyone have a solution for getting multidisplay easily working without using gnome and kde?
[19:14] <seclm193> Obamaisjesus, don't like the nick
[19:14] <joo__> And without being a xorg-config-guru ?
[19:14] <Unknown_Frequenc> it is. When I do "groups" in cli i get two groups. "test" & "workgroup" (which I created) When I do "useradd -G username admin" it says "useradd: user 'unknown' already exists"
[19:14] <dr_willis> joo__:  for my nvidia cards and twinview. it works with most every window manager out there..
[19:14] <seclm193> Is kde known to work better with radeon cards?
[19:14] <joo__> ok, sadly i use ati... i know nvidia has a tool that writes xorg.conf
[19:15] <EgyParadox> wmp: try sudo modprobe vboxdrv
[19:15] <wmp> EgyParadox: emmm, but i wnat to install ubuntu alternate on guest system on virtualbox
[19:15] <dr_willis> joo__:  ati used to have a similer tool. but its been years..  the xorg.conf for nvidia just  has like one line in it  Twinview "on"  so its not too complex.
[19:15] <wmp> EgyParadox: host is windows7
[19:15] <ThinkT510> Eiriksvinr: yes, the persistant install is practically the same as a harddisk install
[19:16] <Eiriksvinr> ThinkT510: this is going to be great, I'll just dump all the language packages, and junk I don't need, clean it up so It's as small as I can get it... then run from there
[19:16] <alaing> how do i copy all files/folders from one directory to another from the command line
[19:16] <dr_willis> joo__:  an issuc could be if you are using the fglrx drivers. or the open sourced ati drivers i imagine. The Open driver may not have all the features.
[19:16] <dr_willis> alaing:  cp -R foo bar
[19:16] <edbian> alaing: cp -R /path/to/source/* /path/to/dest/
[19:17] <alaing> thanks dr_willis and edbian
[19:17] <edbian> sure
[19:17] <seclm193> Dr_willis, you familiar with reassertion drivers?
[19:17] <appi_uppi> hi please help me in configuring dyndns on ubuntu
[19:17] <dr_willis> seclm193:  never heard of them.
[19:17] <lyff> I go to boot menu but there is only Vista, but i know i have ubuntu because in windows 20go have disepear on my DD
[19:17] <seclm193> Radeon I mean
[19:17] <dr_willis> appi_uppi:  many routers these days have built in dyndns servers.
[19:17] <dr_willis> seclm193:  i dont use ati unless i cant help it. :)
[19:17] <Eiriksvinr> I wonder if it would work well on an 8gb+ usb, cause I can just get like a 32gb and that would be perfect
[19:17] <EgyParadox> wmp: the installation didnt complete successfully?
[19:18] <wmp> EgyParadox: yes
[19:18] <joo__> dr_willis, actually none of the drivers really work for my imac24 - for an example i can't play video, - but multi display works fine... however I don't have the config skills to use anything else than gnome or kde where I can set it up with gui, but where it only sticks for theese environments.
[19:18] <dr_willis> joo__:  you are refering to a PPC imac?
[19:18] <seclm193> Dr_willis, its a laptop and can't help it.
[19:18] <appi_uppi> dr_willis, i'm trying to follow the steps given here root@srinivasa-laptop:/home/srinivasa# sudo /etc/init.d/ddclient status
[19:18] <appi_uppi> Status of Dynamic DNS service update utility: ddclient is running.
[19:18] <appi_uppi> root@srinivasa-laptop:/home/srinivasa# ps -aef | grep sshd
[19:18] <appi_uppi> root       582     1  0 Aug02 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd -D
[19:18] <appi_uppi> root      5311  4105  0 00:34 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto sshd
[19:18] <FloodBot1> appi_uppi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:18] <joo__> dr_willis, no it is intel
[19:18] <Eiriksvinr> I have a 500gb USB Desktop HDD will it work on that?
[19:18] <ThinkT510> Eiriksvinr: should work fine (my harddisk installs are always under 10gb)
[19:18] <appi_uppi> that was mistake
[19:19] <dr_willis> joo__:  ok. :) i sold my ppc imac the other week.. it ran linux.. poorly.
[19:19] <appi_uppi> dr_willis, sorry for that paste, i have followed the steps given in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DynamicDNS
[19:19] <Eiriksvinr> It's small and portable, but great amount of space
[19:19] <appi_uppi> dr_willis, looks like some problem with dyndns setup
[19:19] <EgyParadox> wmp| !md5
[19:20] <EgyParadox> !md5 | wmp
[19:20] <wmp> EgyParadox: in windows7? :)
[19:20] <wmp> O
[19:20] <alaing> how do I delete a folder and all files from the command line?
[19:20] <joo__> alaing, rm -r folder
[19:20] <edbian> alaing: rm -r /path/to/folder    be careful, there is not trash or undo
[19:20] <edbian> alaing: rmdir for an empty folder
[19:20] <dr_willis> alaing:   You really may want to go spend some time reading some command line basics guides.. :)
[19:20] <dr_willis> !terminal
[19:21] <alaing> thanks guys
[19:21] <Eiriksvinr> I have a 500gb USB Desktop HDD will it work on that as a persistant drive?
[19:21] <alaing> dr_willis: i'll work through that tutorial
[19:22] <RafaelRistovski> hello
[19:22] <OmegaForte> RafaelRistovski, Hellote.
[19:22] <RafaelRistovski> Can I somehow install ubuntu on external HDD?
[19:22] <RafaelRistovski> hi
[19:22] <OmegaForte> RafaelRistovski, Yeah. Just set it as the install point.
[19:22] <edbian> RafaelRistovski: sure, why not?
[19:23] <Eiriksvinr> I'm trying to install Ubuntu onto mine as a Persistant USB drive, since it is USB, and yet its a 500gb USB HDD, will it work on that?
[19:24] <edbian> Eiriksvinr: Just install it to the external hdd the normal way you'd install it to an internal hdd.
[19:24] <edbian> Eiriksvinr: telling Ubuntu it's a persistent USB is not going to help.
[19:25] <Eiriksvinr> will it be mobile like my USB?
[19:25] <RafaelRistovski> how much space does Ubuntu need in order to install?
[19:25] <Narc> Hello everyone. I'm trying to transfer files between two 11.04 PC with empathy over XMPP (Jabber) to no avail. The file transfer just hangs, not doing anything. We both forwarded our 5222, 8080 and 8010 TCP ports. Any advice please, it's driving me nuts. ? Thanks a lot.
[19:25] <Eiriksvinr> 2gb, but you can slim it down
[19:25] <wmp> EgyParadox: md5 sum is good
[19:25] <edbian> Eiriksvinr: yes
[19:25] <edbian> RafaelRistovski: about 2 or 3 Gb
[19:25] <ThinkT510> RafaelRistovski: depends what you are going to install on it
[19:26] <RafaelRistovski> So I can install it on an USB stick?
[19:26] <ThinkT510> sure
[19:26] <edbian> RafaelRistovski: yeah
[19:26] <RafaelRistovski> WOW
[19:26] <RafaelRistovski> thats really COOL!
[19:26] <ThinkT510> !usb | RafaelRistovski
[19:26] <edbian> RafaelRistovski: Yeah it's awesome
[19:26] <jerryg> hi
[19:26] <Eiriksvinr> good, going to it, thanks for the info guys... #Ubuntu is the best place for Live support!!! yay!!
[19:26] <sasquatch7> Anyone know how to send text messages via a modem in linux?
[19:26] <jerryg> both sudoedit and visudo won't open /etc/sudoers http://codepad.org/pyXeD5Uc
[19:27] <Pici> jerryg: can you use sudo at all?
[19:27] <claviusmond> GEDIT, I need to save a file with gedit but in a predetermined encoding, ISO western something, how do I do that?
[19:28] <naptastic> Is it just me or are the Maverick repositories completely screwed up right now?
[19:28] <ThinkT510> jerryg: its not sudo visudo, its just visudo
[19:29] <naptastic> All I'm trying to do is install libboost-dev-all and it spews a list of dependencies that can't be met.  I've tried forcing versions to what they're supposed to be, to no avail.
[19:30] <EgyParadox> wmp:Did you try to install it on your PC? (not virtual machine)
[19:31] <wmp> EgyParadox: yes, work
[19:32] <EgyParadox> then it might be a virtualbox issue sadly I can't help you try #vbox
[19:33] <wmp> EgyParadox: other distribuction work
[19:34] <jerryg> ThinkT510: jerryg@blackhawk:~$ visudo
[19:34] <jerryg> visudo: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[19:34] <ThinkT510> jerryg: have you edited it previously?
[19:35] <jerryg> ThinkT510: yes. with sudoedit. but I think it saved to /tmp
[19:35] <ThinkT510> jerryg: and what exactly did you edit?
[19:36] <jerryg> ThinkT510: I just added a -->  jerryg = (root) NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/dmidecode
[19:36] <jerryg> which may have a syntax error.  how do I edit /etc/sudoers  ?
[19:36] <ylmfos> hihi
[19:37] <ThinkT510> jerryg: can i pm you?
[19:37] <jerryg> ThinkT510: please do.
[19:38] <ocp> hello, can somebody help me out with this bash, im not sure whats wrong, http://pastebin.com/6WyaU0wE
[19:38] <ocp> it keeps telling me Usage: find [-H] [-L] [-P] [-Olevel] [-D help|tree|search|stat|rates|opt|exec] [path...] [expression]
[19:38] <ocp> ./refresh.sh: line 17: -exec: command not found
[19:39] <GwarTheTrolle> Hi guys. I am using xmodmap to remap my "back" key on my mouse to middle click. is there a way I can also map my "forward" key to middle click?
[19:43] <sasquatch7> Anyone setup or know much about email to sms?
[19:45] <caaakeeey> hey, whats the best ami to use on amazon?
[19:47] <Pici> ocp: I'm not sure how lines 8 and 9 are working properly, but you could also change that mess of -names into a proper -regex
[19:47] <ocp> what is regex ?
[19:47] <ocp> sorry im new
[19:47] <AviMarcus> Hey folks. Where does empathy keep it's logs and settings? I just migrated from 10.04 to 11.04 on a fresh install.. trying to not redo as many settings as possible.
[19:48] <ThinkT510> AviMarcus: my guess would be ~/.empathy
[19:48] <AviMarcus> mine too, but it doesn't exist
[19:49] <Pici> ocp: regular expression. something like: find /var/www/downloads -regextype posix-egrep -regex '.*\.(rmvb|wmv|ogg|ogv|mpg|mpeg)$' -exec mv "{}" /var/www/garbage/ \;
[19:49] <AviMarcus> .config/empathy has some stuff there, but not the logs or login credentials
[19:49] <Pici> ocp: The folks in #bash might have a better way of doing it too, but thats what I would recommend.
[19:49] <ocp> thanks ill try that
[19:50] <claviusmond> OPENOFFICE, i have a 7000 page doc, I need to select only the lines starting with "1", can that be done?
[19:50] <ocp> Pici it says find: missing argument to `-exec'
[19:51] <AviMarcus> claviusmond, within open office? if you save it as a regular text of a sort, you can easily grep it
[19:51] <appi_uppi> hi need help http://pastebin.com/wNZ1Xrhy
[19:51] <Pici> ocp: Make sure that you put the \; at the end
[19:51] <GwarTheTrolle> Hi guys. I am using xmodmap to remap my "back" key on my mouse to middle click. is there a way I can also map my "forward" key to middle click as well?
[19:51] <immortalz> dr_willis: Here ? We talked about a computer that i ram ram tests on and they passed a few days ago. Its still acting weird. If i turn the computer on the first time i get no theme for the panel and top bars of the windows and the mouse moves seriously skiddish and slow so i have to reboot and then suddenly the mouse moves fine but the theme is still not working. What can the problem be ?..
[19:51] <claviusmond> AviMarcus, grep? does that come in the default installation?
[19:52] <bill> hello
[19:52] <AviMarcus> It's a command line tool, claviusmond
[19:52] <bill> just checking x-chat
[19:52] <claviusmond> a, lol
[19:52] <bill> is there a better program for ubuntu? i mean for irc
[19:52] <immortalz> dr_willis: "run ram tests on/.."
[19:52] <AviMarcus> e.g. "grep ^1 filename" I think would work
[19:52] <AviMarcus> bill, I settled on x-chat..
[19:52] <polygon-pusher> is there an app that I can change what I see in grub to set which boot options I have?
[19:53] <AviMarcus> it let me separate the windows I wanted to..
[19:53] <exxtreme> bill..pidgin
[19:54] <immortalz> Hmm, its actually "ran ramtests on" but anyhoot :)
[19:57] <immortalz> AviMarcus: Xchat always rocked.
[19:58] <wernerdev> Hey everyone, any change Netatalk 2.2 final will find it's way into the original Natty repo?
[19:58] <wernerdev> Or is it just not going to happen?
[19:58] <wernerdev> *chance
[19:59] <Celerooon> hi
[19:59] <Celerooon> i have very big problem with wifi
[19:59] <Celerooon> on windows, slackware and debian wifi works fine
[19:59] <ThinkT510> !backports | wernerdev
[20:00] <Celerooon> but on ubuntu, wifi is very slow
[20:00] <AviMarcus> immortalz, kinda. I recompiled it to show the #channel at the start of the titlebar info
[20:00] <immortalz> wernerdev: Cool, the old apple chat program. Ssh and talk works on apple too right ?
[20:00] <wernerdev> Yeh I know about backports and launchpad.net but I was wondering if it gets put into the official repo also?
[20:01] <wernerdev> immortalz: It's not a chat program...
[20:01] <immortalz> AviMarcus: Sometimes its very handy to be able to do some patchings etc. One beauty of the ways of open source :)
[20:01] <immortalz> wernerdev: Oh, whats it for ... checking with google...
[20:02] <Celerooon> ah, my wifi device is atheros
[20:02] <wernerdev> immortalz: It enables Linux to connect with Macs using AFP protocol.
[20:02] <hoopjumping> Hi, I got an NTFS hard drive in a windows machine, suffered a crash. I was hoping to backup files from it, but I'm unable to mount it in ubuntu as the MFT is corrupt. Can I fix it from within linux? I don't have a windows boot cd
[20:03] <stealz> I installed a custon Icon theme on Ubuntu 10.04 and it replaced the firefox icon with the IE icon. Can anyone help me revert this change?
[20:03] <stealz> Installing a different icon set didnt fix it obviously
[20:04] <Celerooon> someone can help me? :(
[20:04] <immortalz> wernerdev: Saw it, sounds nice. Do kernel devs (packagers etc) have to sync their patchings or is it like a userland implementation ?
[20:04] <hoopjumping> when I try to open the drive, it says "mount exited code 18, failed to load $MFT"
[20:05] <hoopjumping> then failed to mount /dev/sdd1 no such file or directory
[20:05] <immortalz> wernerdev: nfs kernel patches and userland tools. Something similar ?
[20:05] <wernerdev> immortalz: Don't know about that.
[20:06] <wernerdev> ThinkT510: It's not in Backports... I am just asking if someone knows how Ubuntu handles new Stable updates...
[20:06] <ThinkT510> !latest | wernerdev
[20:07] <immortalz> wernerdev: I can imagine that its of interrest to kernelmongers to know this if they want to add nettalk... modules etc so it wont slow down kernel releases due to future incompatibilities and so on.
[20:07] <Pici> wernerdev: 2.2~beta4-1 is in Oneiric, you could see about getting it backported I suppose.
[20:09] <immortalz> wernerdev: Backporting is often just a matter of recompiling it. The kernel interface doesnt change very often so that could be a nice way of atleast testing it and later perhaps release packages for it.
[20:09] <wernerdev> Pici: I know, it was also on PPA. But 2.2 Final got released some days ago. And I was wondering now that 2.2 is Final (no unstable beta) if it might be put into the stable official repo. But I guess the answer is no...
[20:09] <Pici> wernerdev: If anything it would land in -backports, or if this was a security fix, in -updates.
[20:10] <marriedman624> I am a super noob with linux/ubuntu but, can anyone point me to a tutorial on how to get an Atheros AR5001 wireless card to work on Natty Narwhal (11.04)?
[20:10] <Celerooon> marriedman624 i have the same problem
[20:10] <wernerdev> Pici: I guess it won't count as a security update. Since it goes from 1.x to 2.x
[20:10] <immortalz> wernerdev: I say yes, if it works as ok as the current packages. The latest is often the greatest, but in some cases there are a few mismatches to be found.
[20:10] <marriedman624> I've tried madwifi (not sure if I did it right) and ndiswrapper but neither has worked
[20:11] <Trashi> hi guys. if my pc wakes up after standby, network is disabled but the network manager sais its enabled. but i cant see any wireless networks or s.th. like that. after a reboot all works fine. does anybody know that problem?
[20:11] <wernerdev> Pici: My bad: 2.1 to 2.2. New release, no security update...
[20:11] <immortalz> wernerdev: Works good if you compile and install it yourself ?
[20:11] <Pici> wernerdev: It depends what was changed, sometimes version numbers get changed arbitraraly.
[20:12] <marriedman624> can i update/install current madwifi driver from terminal? If so, what is the syntax to accomplish this?
[20:12] <immortalz> Pici: Lol, do they ?
[20:12] <wernerdev> immortalz: Tried compiling the 2.2b4 but didn't succeed. Gave up because it was on PPA already. Might try 2.2 Final again in a VM.
[20:12] <Pici> immortalz: Its up to the developers what they want to do.
[20:12] <immortalz> wernerdev: Do that.
[20:13] <Celerooon> marriedman624 I don't know :(
[20:13] <wernerdev> Pici: Well this update is important since it enables compatibility with the latest OS X (10.7).
[20:13] <immortalz> Pici: Developers never just change version numbers without reason. They are always very thurough by nature.
[20:13] <AviMarcus> OK so I found where empathy stores it's stuff and copied it and that didn't work..
[20:14] <lortech> has anyone had sucsess with zoneminder install on ubuntu?
[20:14] <AviMarcus> ah. gnome-keyring.
[20:14] <Pici> wernerdev: You don't need to convince me, Have you looked at the SRU and backport information from ubottu?
[20:14] <wernerdev> Pici: Yes I did, but no luck.
[20:15] <wernerdev> Pici, immortalz: But I guess the bottom line is, there is no time path for final releases getting officially released. Just a matter of waiting or compile it myself...
[20:16] <marriedman624> Celerooon: Just a quick google search turned this up.........not sure if it still relevant  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros#KurianAlternative
[20:16] <marriedman624> I can't test right now cause I am at work
[20:16] <marriedman624> are you able to test that method right now?
[20:17] <immortalz> wernerdev: If you cant compile it although you have googled and given it your very very best shot then contact the developers and ask about it. Give them the exact error output from the compile and they will know what you need to do.
[20:17] <jvgeli> help. installed Fedora but didnt install Grub as I wanted to use Grub of Ubuntu. Now I am in Ubunu how do I get Grub to see Fedora, update-grub doesnt seem to work.
[20:18] <Celerooon> marriedman624 no, me too
[20:18] <maalac1> jvgeli: boot to rescue disk
[20:18] <Celerooon> I am at work
[20:18] <maalac1> jvgeli: chroot /mnt/sysimage
[20:18] <maalac1> grub-install
[20:18] <hoymkot> hello
[20:18] <immortalz> wernerdev: They should really speed up the QA and packaging process but its summertime so im sure theyll fix it as soon as they get back. Since its not a security issue..
[20:18] <hoymkot> helo
[20:19] <wernerdev> !sru
[20:19] <jvgeli> maalac1: is there any other way? while i am in Ubuntu?
[20:20] <immortalz> hoymkot: HELO: This is sendmail version 0.0.1 how may i serve your request :)
[20:20] <wernerdev> Ok thanks!
[20:20] <immortalz> Np
[20:20] <jtannenbaum> I'm on 10.04 and apt-get keeps telling me to update linux headers and stuff but I'm too afraid to update or upgrade to any higher version of Ubuntu without a clean install.. what should I do (besides a clean install)?
[20:21] <dr_willis> jtannenbaum:  thats not  updateing to  the next release.. just a newer kernel.
[20:21] <jtannenbaum> either way doing either of those things has often broken/messed up my install in the past
[20:22] <immortalz> jtannenbaum: Yep, shouldnt be a problem.
[20:22] <jtannenbaum> it's either compiz that goes or the wireless internet
[20:22] <dr_willis> jtannenbaum:  thats why they keep the older kernels in the grub menu...
[20:22] <jtannenbaum> true
[20:22] <dr_willis> jtannenbaum:  do what you want.. if you decided not to.. well.. thats that.
[20:22] <jtannenbaum> why can't something unuseful break like the screen magnifier
[20:22] <immortalz> jtannenbaum: Should it fail then reboot using the kernel that worked before ;)
[20:23] <dr_willis> ive rarely had update issues breaking things in the past..  now Upgrading to the next release.. that can be an issue.. :)
[20:23] <jtannenbaum> also, melt keeps appearing on my update list but I can never update it
[20:24] <xemacs4321> i am having hwclock issues, when i reboot clock is not reset to local time , how to fix ?
[20:24] <Pokit> I recently updated (i think there was a kernel update), and now when I try to boot into ubuntu (11.04), the screen goes black and it just sits there... If i hit ctrl+alt+delete, it shows the shell and then restarts.
[20:24] <immortalz> dr_willis: yep, i think the new scrollbars sucks. Luckily they can be reverted to the old style (As the developers intended:)
[20:25] <dr_willis> immortalz:  new scrollbars have their pros and cons. Im used to them. because they work about the same as they do on my android phone
[20:25] <dr_willis> I can think of bigger issues then scrollbars
[20:25] <OmegaForte> Yeah, like no jockey yet.
[20:26] <ishido_> How can I run Ubuntu on very slow computer?
[20:26] <immortalz> dr_willis: I think they are horrible. I can however see their use on a small screen, such as a cellphone.
[20:26] <dr_willis> ishido_:  Huh? Install it and run it..
[20:26] <dr_willis> ishido_:  lubuntu is good for low end machines.
[20:27] <claviusmond> with GREP, can I export the product back to libreoffice calc and rewrite it exactly where it was before?
[20:27] <astraljava> jtannenbaum: Why can't you update melt? Can you give us an example?
[20:28] <astraljava> Pokit: If it shows you VT when rebooting, you _should_ be able to switch into one with Alt+F[1-6], which in turn should give you a login prompt. Can you try that?
[20:28] <Pokit> astraljava: didn't even think of trying that.... lol.  I'll do that, thanks.
[20:29]  * brewster loiters
[20:29] <astraljava> Pokit: Sorry, Ctrl+Alt+F[1-6]
[20:29] <Pokit> ok
[20:31] <comfortsuites> my ISP requires that when I open my browser window I have to click and accept the Agreement before i am allowed access. how do i get around this
[20:31] <comfortsuites> whats the command to the the IP address of this comp
[20:32] <comfortsuites> *to see
[20:32] <immortalz> 24.229.48.163
[20:32] <comfortsuites> immortalz that is my ip?
[20:32] <Msh100> comfortsuites, public or private?
[20:33] <comfortsuites> public
[20:33] <Msh100> Then yes, what immortalz said most likely
[20:33] <comfortsuites> how do i get around clicking accept after periods of inactivity in my web browser?
[20:33] <immortalz> http://www.ip-adress.com/whois/24.229.48.163 :)
[20:33] <rusef> Get a decent isp.
[20:33] <immortalz> Yeah, that looks baad :)
[20:34] <rusef> 'Quakertown' is a pretty awesome name for a town though.
[20:34] <immortalz> Baad to the bone, NanaNaHah... Bababba Baad :)
[20:35] <immortalz> MAC spoofing is also fun
[20:35] <jvgeli> help. installed Fedora 15 but didnt install Grub as I wanted to use Grub of Ubuntu Natty. Now I am in Ubuntu how do I get Grub to see Fedora, update-grub doesnt seem to work.
[20:35] <astraljava> comfortsuites: I don't think you can. Their servers require this, and your connection runs through them, so I don't think there's anything you can do.
[20:37] <ck_> quit
[20:37] <ck_> exit
[20:38] <ck_> #quit
[20:38] <immortalz> jvgeli: Documentation is good. Have an old copy of grub.conf ? then toss the latest boot entry into the new grub.conf and if that doesnt work then modify the hd(x,x) parameter until it does.
[20:38] <wernerdev> immortalz: Just a quick one, just compiled Netatalk 2.2 without errors. Any tutorials on how to create a package from it?
[20:40] <immortalz> wernerdev: Debian has good info on how to do this. I just make software so youll have to package it yourself. If you hang around, and you can verify that it works ok, then im sure the people here are interrested.
[20:40] <designbybeck> Has anyone tried to run Shutter (screen capture tool) in Ubuntu 11.04?
[20:41] <designbybeck> I get this: :~$ shutter
[20:41] <designbybeck> WARNING: Net::DBus::GLib is missing --> Ubuntu One support will be disabled!
[20:41] <wernerdev> immortalz: Well point is that I don't want to put all the Build dependencies on my server. Thats why I want to build and make a DEB file from it on my VM.
[20:43] <wernerdev> immortalz: I read something about dh-make, is that the right way to search? Or is there an easier way?
[20:43] <Viaken> Does anyone know of a way to create a beep on click? I'm working with a touchscreen and it'd be nice to get some feedback when a touch is recognized.
[20:43] <witeshark> has anyone solved wireless not working in 11.04?
[20:44] <immortalz> wernerdev: I see, although the space that would take up would be very nominal. Perhaps an increased security risk if you have users with shells on the boxes, but otherwise perfectly ok on both aspects. Linux and Apple people have almost always been friends so that should not be a problem to get this new release into testing and rolled out etc.
[20:45] <immortalz> wernerdev: I think you unpack the source of the previous nettalk package, change the source and the build files (spec files or whatever) and then build a new package.
[20:45] <wernerdev> immortalz: Well I just like to keep everything clean :). Because using ./compile and make doesn't install it. So that also still needs to happen. As you understand, except compiling I never installed a compiled package...
[20:46] <immortalz> wernerdev: Once you have achieved a clean build you can show packagers how you did it by supplying the specifications for it.
[20:47] <wernerdev> immortalz: So there is no easy way of testing it myself?
[20:47] <xemacs4321> when my system reboot hwclock is not reset to local time what file do i chagne to fix this ? (sorry 2nd try for this)
[20:48] <wernerdev> immortalz: Or is sudo check install enough?
[20:48] <wernerdev> immortalz: sudo checkinstall
[20:48] <immortalz> wernerdev: ./configure (Insert path and other parameters here such as --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/xyz etc) "make" ... "make install" to install the program. Or is this an install that deviates some from the GNU way (m4 macros etc) ?
[20:49] <manager> hi
[20:49] <immortalz> wernerdev: I think checkinstall needs another parameter to also make a .deb package
[20:49] <immortalz> wernerdev: Thats how i would have made it anyhow.
[20:49] <manager> join #tamanku
[20:50] <immortalz> manager: tuttifrutti ? :)
[20:50] <wernerdev> immortalz: Ok, well I can try it in VM first. But creating a DEB package is a lot more complicated then just running one command I understand.
[20:51] <immortalz> wernerdev: No, not really. The packages are created in large clusters of computers.
[20:52] <shomon> hi, I just followed a tutorial on grub linked here earlier, and I've gone from a frozen blank screen to a frozen login screen.. a definite improvement
[20:52] <Reaper> lol if you say so
[20:52] <shomon> I can now use all the function keys for terminals, alt sysrq keys etc
[20:52] <rushfan54> my sound stopped working after a reboot.  i looked in the sound settings and tried every sound device that was listed.  i also looked in alsamixer to check the sound levels.  all the levels are looking correct.  im completely lost.
[20:53] <shomon> but how can I find out what is wrong or if x is to blame?
[20:53] <wernerdev> immortalz: Well thanks for your information. I will try and find some more information on Google.
[20:54] <astraljava> wernerdev: You can certainly test the application by running `sudo checkinstall` in the directory where you built it with `./configure && make`, but that won't do as an official .deb package that you have in the archives.
[20:54] <Tetsuo55> Hi
[20:54] <immortalz> wernerdev: A good call, i know youll be able to fix it.
[20:54] <Tetsuo55> is there any way to verify the system files are ok like windows's SFC command?
[20:55] <breezer> yay home in time after my bellringing, well at least for people to be here and the music going.. I missed the live podcast though didn't I? usually started/starts 8.30ish
[20:55] <robotti^> Hello
[20:55] <robotti^> I have problem
[20:55] <breezer> hi
[20:55] <wernerdev> astraljava: I know, but I want to compile it on my VM, and then install the compiled package on my server. There is no easy way for that I understand.
[20:55] <robotti^> I removed Ubuntu by formatting harddrive and then installing Windows 7, and now computer cannot boot
[20:55] <robotti^> there is grub error message
[20:56] <robotti^> error: unknown filesystem. grub rescue>
[20:56] <robotti^> nobody?
[20:57] <shomon> no clue robotti sorry
[20:57] <robotti^> shomon: how to remove that grub from mbr?
[20:57] <OmegaForte> robotti^, Best I can say is force boot windows (by selecting the drive it's on as the boot device) and get a program called partition magic.
[20:58] <OmegaForte> robotti^, Or, reinstall linux, remove it but don't mess with grub.
[20:58] <Alexia_Death> robotti^: Do you have several hard-drives?
[20:58] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: two
[20:58] <robotti^> and windows on primary
[20:58] <robotti^> linux was too
[20:59] <Alexia_Death> robotti^: Then try swaping boot order from bios.
[20:59] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: it is first
[20:59] <shomon> you could get hiren's boot cd, it should have partiton magic, and 100 other things
[20:59] <andylockran> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/technology-14370878
[20:59] <Reaper> is mint another version of gnome?
[20:59] <robotti^> shomon: can it remove grub from mbr?
[20:59] <andylockran> anyone else see that?  ^^
[20:59] <Reaper> i did
[20:59] <Alexia_Death> robotti^: swap them anyway just for test. Windows should have overwritten the boot sector during install.
[20:59] <xangua> !mint | Reaper
[21:00] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: it loads from windows disk
[21:00] <Alexia_Death> robotti^: Sometimes however it may write its boot on a wrong drive.
[21:00] <robotti^> that grub
[21:00] <Reaper> well the reason I ask is if ubuntu is based on gnome, i was wondering if mint is based off of ubuntu (which is based off of gnome)
[21:01] <Reaper> any of that make sence?
[21:01] <astraljava> wernerdev: Why would you think it won't work?
[21:01] <OmegaForte> Reaper, Gnome is a user interface, homes. Ubuntu is based on Debian.
[21:01] <Alexia_Death> robotti^: yes, Im aware. But try swaping them anyway.
[21:01] <immortalz> Reaper: Lol, gnome is just the desktop (the graphical stuff you see).
[21:01] <OmegaForte> Reaper, And to the point; just about everything that runs in debian will run in ubuntu. That's why I'm here.
[21:01] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: now I just do it
[21:02] <astraljava> wernerdev: Sure, checkinstall might not specify the proper dependencies for the package, but since you have had to figure them out during the compile-phase, you should know what to install so that it will work on the other machine.
[21:02] <Reaper> oh wow lol
[21:02] <breezer> reaper, but mint is a ubuntu-like (and based) version of ubuntu, entirely supported by them not canonical
[21:02] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: blinnking cursor
[21:02] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: nothing else
[21:02] <Alexia_Death> Reaper: Gnome is a Desktop environment. just a set of programs.
[21:02] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: now what?
[21:03] <breezer> though did I hear (or confused with other distro?) that mint will use debian as base now/next release instead of ubuntu? I might be very wrong there
[21:03] <Alexia_Death> robotti^: do you have a CD for windows install?
[21:03] <wernerdev> astraljava: Yes but checkinstall installs it on the VM. I want an easy way to copy the compiled program to my working server without compiling it on the server itself.
[21:03] <astraljava> wernerdev: The only thing that would prevent the package from getting installed on the server, is that it's 32-bit, while the VM is 64-bit. And you can even get around that by creating a 32-bit chroot on the VM, and checkinstalling the package there.
[21:03] <breezer> you have shared data drives between them dont you werderdev?
[21:03] <breezer> I mean wernerdev
[21:04] <astraljava> wernerdev: No, checkinstall creates a .deb, it won't install it. You will still have to install the resulting .deb with dpkg.
[21:04] <OmegaForte> breezer, Ubuntu is debian. There's no hiding it. It uses .deb lackages. Biggest give away.
[21:04] <breezer> You can mount the same drives within vm..
[21:04] <Bernhard> Any dutch people ?????
[21:04] <astraljava> !nl | Bernhard
[21:04] <Alexia_Death> robotti^: Switch i back and follow this: http://www.ehow.com/how_4836283_repair-mbr-windows.html
[21:04] <breezer> OmegaForte, they're not the same thing; one uses the other, and takes a large portion of its stuff, but they are not quite the same thing.
[21:04] <wernerdev> breezer: I could do that yes.
[21:05] <wernerdev> astraljava: Really? Then that's what I am going to try now :P
[21:05] <OmegaForte> breezer, They're closer than any other debian clone. And if you're gonna split hairs, let's go ahead and metion OSX.
[21:05] <breezer> easy to copy it; program from one to another will install if it uses same/compatible versions of libraries between vm and real server. will be easier to run with a deb to install (and maybe your "make" has a target it can build that creates a debian package to make that easy)
[21:05] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: I removed secondery hd
[21:06] <immortalz> OmegaForte: Its more complex then that.
[21:06] <OmegaForte> immortalz, It's splitting hairs.
[21:06] <Alexia_Death> robotti^: did that help?
[21:06] <immortalz> OmegaForte: Its a wiggums :)
[21:06] <breezer> OmegaForte, lets NOT mention osx... u trolling? :)
[21:06] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: I am now trying to install Windows /
[21:06] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: no help
[21:07] <OmegaForte> breezer, Oh yeah man. I'm trolling so hard I'm bringing up a lightly modified darwin build that Apple is selling.
[21:07] <Alexia_Death> robotti^: If you dont have windows installed before then install it.
[21:07] <OmegaForte> breezer, Splitting hairs. Osx - Darwin - Debian.
[21:07] <immortalz> Trolls
[21:07] <Reaper> lost lol
[21:07] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: I already installed it and it does not worked, so I removed mbr and partitions.
[21:07] <Alexia_Death> robotti^: If you already have it, then the guie above is for you.
[21:07] <breezer> just thought osx was slightly irrelevant to current discussion, they're all unix/linux-ish but we're talking ubuntu/debian
[21:08] <robotti^> and there is that grub error still
[21:08] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: I removed partitions and mbr
[21:08] <robotti^> and still it does not work.
[21:09] <Alexia_Death> robotti^: I dont think anything on windows parform removes the mbr.
[21:09] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: I used ubuntu
[21:09] <Alexia_Death> robotti^: MBR is where partitios are described.
[21:09] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: and dd
[21:09] <Alexia_Death> aah
[21:09] <MozZo> is there any package with a friendly interface for mysql in UbUntu!?
[21:10] <axcel> hi
[21:10] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: what is wrong?
[21:10] <Alexia_Death> robotti^: You removed the other drive and zerroed the one yoou have in there with dd and you STILL see grub?
[21:10] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: yes
[21:11] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: error: unknown filesystem. grub rescue>
[21:11] <Alexia_Death> robotti^: Got any USB memory sticks plugged in.
[21:11] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: no
[21:12] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: now I am installing Windows 7 from usb stick.
[21:12] <astraljava> MozZo: None of them are exactly hostile. Wanna try mysql-admin?
[21:12] <Alexia_Death> robotti^: Did the path you zeroed end with a number or a letter?
[21:12] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: but that error occur without usb sticks.
[21:13] <MozZo> astraljava: what is mysql-admin? can I add and remove users there? it has got in interface?
[21:13] <Alexia_Death> robotti^: dd on /dev/sda1 does not touch mbr. dd on /dev/sda does.
[21:13] <glisstech> i am having an issue with the users-admin on my natty box
[21:13] <wernerdev> astraljava: Of course, something went wrong :P ****  Installation failed. Aborting package creation.
[21:13] <astraljava> !info mysql-admin > MozZo
[21:14] <glisstech> when I try to t/s by starting from sudo users-admin I get this error
[21:14] <wernerdev> astraljava: make[4]: *** [install-uamsLTLIBRARIES] Error 1
[21:14] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: I just do it sda without 1
[21:14] <glisstech> Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0.
[21:14] <wernerdev> astraljava: And 4 more of those errors.
[21:14] <plustwo23> My keyboard doesn't have a "Super" key, so Unity is hard to navigate. Anyone know of a substitute keyboard sequence for "Super" key?
[21:14] <astraljava> Meh. MozZo: I dunno, I don't use it. It's just one of the things that showed up with `apt-cache search mysql gui`, I'm sure you can do a similar query in a package manager of your choice.
[21:15] <Alexia_Death> robotti^: while your other drive was disconneced already?
[21:15] <astraljava> wernerdev: Would be better if you could pastebin the whole output of the command.
[21:15] <glisstech> plustwo23: does your keyboard have a key with the windows logo on it?
[21:15] <plustwo23> glisstech, no. It is older than Windows
[21:16] <MozZo> astraljava: such a nice idea dude! i'm gonna install it..let give it a try >>> apt-get install mysql-admin
[21:16] <astraljava> wernerdev: Alternatively, if it's not a big tarball, give me a link to the sources.
[21:16] <OmegaForte> plustwo23, Don't tell me...Is it a dvorak keyboard?
[21:16] <astraljava> MozZo: No prob, just go ahead and try. It won't hurt, and if you don't like it, there are plenty of others.
[21:17] <plustwo23> OmegaForte, it is an IBM from 1993
[21:17] <wernerdev> astraljava: http://pastebin.com/h2VLu1fT
[21:17] <OmegaForte> plustwo23, Aww, a qwerty eh?
[21:17] <claviusmond> AviMarcus?
[21:17] <AviMarcus> Hello
[21:17] <plustwo23> yes
[21:17] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: yes
[21:18] <claviusmond> AviMarcus, ok, I found the correct grep command to use, problem: there are like 23000 output lines, and my terminal will only show like 400, how do I copy extract or export the output?
[21:18] <AviMarcus> I thought your file was only 7000 lines?
[21:18] <goddard> is there an ardunio channel?
[21:18]  * plustwo23 is NOT going to get a Windows keyboard for his Linux desktop!
[21:18] <AviMarcus> anyway, quick way, add: "> results.txt" to the end
[21:18] <mman> why when I start copying from a linux server over smb to ubuntu it starts really fast lets says 20-15mb/s and then it drops to max 5mb/s ??
[21:18] <Alexia_Death> robotti^: Then Id check your computer for any cd-s or memory cards it may be trying to start form, because that drive cant have grub left.
[21:19] <AviMarcus> that will pipe the output and overwrite results.txt with the results
[21:19] <AviMarcus> got it claviusmond ?
[21:19] <enyawix> xorg.conf?
[21:20] <claviusmond> AviMarcus, inpout file was 7000 pages, like 400,000 lines
[21:20] <enyawix> mouse scroll is not working and no way to fix
[21:20] <Pinguincsc> how do I find out what is the device of my backup tape?
[21:20] <glisstech> anyone have any suggestions?
[21:20] <AviMarcus> oh 7k pages :) well, enjoy. This kind of stuff is why I love frequent command line access. I use yakuake for always available pop-down terminats
[21:20] <OmegaForte> glisstech, What'd you need?
[21:20] <Pinguincsc> I want to run mt -f /dev/xxx rewind
[21:21] <enyawix> Pinguincsc: dmesg | more
[21:22] <glisstech> OmegaForte: i am having an issue with the users-admin on my natty box
[21:22] <OmegaForte> glisstech, Okay, what happen?
[21:22] <glisstech> OmegaForte: when I try to t/s by starting from sudo users-admin I get this error
[21:22] <tebeen__> hello all
[21:22] <glisstech> OmegaForte: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0.
[21:22] <mman> why when I start copying from a linux server over smb to ubuntu it starts really fast lets says 20-15mb/s and then it drops to max 5mb/s ??
[21:22] <claviusmond> AviMarcus, worked, but thats just the 1st part: after editing the selected lines I MUST paste them back to EXACTLY their previous positions, can that be done?
[21:23] <AviMarcus> haha
[21:23] <tebeen__> i have a problem
[21:23] <OmegaForte> glisstech, It's saying that the device it's looking for into space.
[21:23] <tebeen__> with wimax usb modem
[21:23] <tebeen__> i cant find any driver for it
[21:23] <AviMarcus> claviusmond, are you doing a "regular expression edit"? e.g. everything starting with 1, replace the word "hi" with "hello" ?
[21:23] <OmegaForte> glisstech, Err, wait. It's saying the x session 0 is missing?
[21:23] <glisstech> OmegaForte: how do I fix it? Is there a text file I can edit to remove some reference?
[21:24] <OmegaForte> glisstech, Have you been editing sudoers?
[21:24] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: or drive is broken?
[21:24] <tebeen__> guyssss plssssss help
[21:24] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: is there any possibility for that?
[21:24] <glisstech> OmegaForte: No...but I did somehow mess up the permissions to my wife's user profile
[21:24] <OmegaForte> glisstech, Well, which files have you been editing?
[21:24] <glisstech> OmegaForte: and deleted it with userdel
[21:25] <claviusmond> AviMarcus, not quite: its a flightgear airport file, I have extracted all the airport name lines, I have to change the capitalization and rewrite them back onto the original apt.dat file
[21:25] <astraljava> wernerdev: Right, hard to tell from just that. google isn't really being helpful either. Can I ask, where are you wanting to install netatalk?
[21:25] <tebeen__> wimax usb modem is not working on ubuntu ?
[21:25] <astraljava> wernerdev: Also, where did you get the source?
[21:25] <tebeen__> what should i do
[21:25] <glisstech> OmegaForte: It wouldn't log in properly and I found this article...http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/
[21:26] <AviMarcus> yikes. claviusmond is the capitalization something you can do programatically? first character always capital and rest not?
[21:26] <glisstech> OmegaForte: and then learned a valuable lesson about rm -rf when I had to reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[21:26] <OmegaForte> glisstech, Did you look at how old that is? Posted: February 14, 2007
 wimax usb modem is not working on ubuntu ?
 wimax usb modem is not working on ubuntu ?
[21:26] <wernerdev> astraljava: I want to install it on a 64bit Natty Server. Source is available from: http://netatalk.sourceforge.net/
 wimax usb modem is not working on ubuntu ?
[21:26] <goddard> empathy has a lot of little issues
[21:26] <FloodBot1> tebeen__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:27] <claviusmond> AviMarcus, ALL the name must be in caps, like LOS ANGELES
[21:27] <glisstech> OmegaForte: This started after reinstalling ubuntu-desktop
[21:27] <AviMarcus> OK. claviusmond that's all you need to do?
[21:27] <OmegaForte> glisstech, Hmm. Did you actually trash the partition and make a clean one?
[21:27] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: I just installed windows and it just start reinstalling it again.
[21:27] <astraljava> wernerdev: Is the one in the repo outdated?
[21:27] <glisstech> OmegaForte: No...everything else works, just not the users-admin or software center
[21:28] <goddard> why does empathy grow larger when i type a large message?
[21:28] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: because it cannot detect microsoft  boot loader
[21:28] <claviusmond> AviMarcus, im sorry, but i gotta go, ill create a new thread in the forums, but pasting back shouldnt be that difficult, after all the only changes will be the caps
[21:28] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: there is that grub
[21:28] <wernerdev> astraljava: Yes, that is 2.1.x which does not support OS X 10.7 (Lion)
[21:28] <glisstech> OmegaForte: and the software center runs if i gksudo software-center
[21:28] <astraljava> wernerdev: Looks to be. Okay, let me have a look.
[21:28] <claviusmond> AviMarcus, thanks anyway
[21:28] <OmegaForte> glisstech, Probably due to outdated references seeing a newer local file. I'd say "If nothing of value is to be lost, fdisk."
[21:28] <glisstech> OmegaForte: but users-admin just hangs all greyed out
[21:29] <OmegaForte> glisstech, Probably because it couldn't write a clean one due to permissions.
[21:29] <OmegaForte> glisstech, extent permissions are global. Anything that works with extent still has to follow it's rules.
[21:29] <faint545> how do you send a clonezilla image with multiple partitions into one image for mounting?
[21:29] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: this grub sucks a lot.
[21:30] <glisstech> OmegaForte: hmmm...so chmod 755 on that dir and then reinstalling the ubuntu-desktop again wouldn't be worth a shot?
[21:30] <OmegaForte> glisstech, I'd back up what I could and just sack the partition and start over
[21:30] <Janine> Hello, can anyone help me getting my mousewheel to work? Ubuntu 11.04
[21:31] <OmegaForte> glisstech, Because seriously, if this is happening like this; I'd do it clean to prevent future errors.
[21:31] <glisstech> OmegaForte: that's a bummer...I don't want to do that until I figure out how to create a live disk with all my tweaks
[21:31] <enyawix> now that xorg is auto config how do i add   " Option "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5" " to my mouse?
[21:32] <Janine> enyawix:  are you trying to fix the mousewheel?
[21:32] <OmegaForte> glisstech, Well then I can't help you.
[21:32] <enyawix> Janine:  yes
[21:32] <Janine> OmegaForte:  Hello, can you help me fix my mousewheel? it doesnt work
[21:32] <enyawix> that was the old way
[21:32] <glisstech> OmegaForte: Thanks for the advice...I do appreciate it
[21:32] <Janine> enyawix:  so how do we fix it?
[21:32] <Janine> enyawix: I have the same problem
[21:32] <OmegaForte> Janine, Yeah I can cast Repair Mouse on it for you. I can't help you unless you tell me why it stopped working, or what happened when it stopped working.
[21:33] <Janine> OmegaForte:  It never worked. I plugged in my nano receiver and everything works execpt up and down scroll, horizontal works and so does back and forward
[21:33] <enyawix> OmegaForte:  it "NEVER" worked
[21:33] <enyawix> that help?
[21:34] <enyawix>  OmegaForte: do i have to create a xorg.conf to fix this?
[21:35] <OmegaForte> enyawix, To fix what...
[21:35] <Onepamopa> anyone have sun-java7-jre (x64) .deb package ?
[21:35] <ags1> ciao
[21:35] <Janine> OmegaForte:  We are trying to get our mousewheels to work!
[21:35] <OmegaForte> Onepamopa, Why do you want sun? Openjava is fine too.
[21:36] <enyawix> yes We are trying to get our mouse wheels to work!
[21:36] <OmegaForte> Janine, Okay, I'm only going to help one of you at a time.
[21:36] <Onepamopa> OmegaForte I prefer sun
[21:36] <enyawix> thank you Janine:
[21:36] <Onepamopa> OmegaForte so, is there such package?
[21:36] <OmegaForte> Onepamopa, Take a number.
[21:36] <Janine> OmegaForte:  I asked first so help me first
[21:36] <iridium> Sun? Actually java is Oracle...
[21:36] <OmegaForte> Janine, Are the drivers installed and supported.
[21:37] <Onepamopa> iridium yeah..
[21:37] <Onepamopa> btw, any way of "installing" it from .tar.gz ?
[21:37] <Janine> hmm. I just plugged in the mouse receiver so I dont think so. Where do I see if they are installed and supported?
[21:37] <Onepamopa> I've tryed 10 000 variants, no luck
[21:37] <OmegaForte> Onepamopa, by extracting it and make make install.
[21:37] <vuth>  /msg NickServ identify deeznuts
[21:37] <Janine> OmegaForte: hmm. I just plugged in the mouse receiver so I dont think so. Where do I see if they are installed and supported?
[21:37] <Onepamopa> OmegaForte there's no Makefile or configure
[21:37] <Onepamopa> its just jre+jdk bin folders, some docs etc
[21:38] <OmegaForte> Janine, okay. Google.ca, google the device.
[21:38] <OmegaForte> Onepamopa, Well, okay then I'll look for you.
[21:38] <Onepamopa> OmegaForte no need to look, I searched everywhere ...
[21:38] <Onepamopa> it's.......
[21:38] <pingveno> I'm putting together a backport of Ubuntu 10.10's python2.7 package to 10.04. I'm currently comparing python2.6's debian/ to python2.7's debian/. Should I change DEB_HOST_ARCH (10.10's 2.7) to DEB_BUILD_ARCH (10.04's 2.7)?
[21:39] <wernerdev> astraljava: I tested it using "make install" and the program works fine... So it's something with "checkinstall" which messes up.
[21:39] <pingveno> That last "2.7" should be "2.6"
[21:39] <OmegaForte> Onepamopa, Everywere? Oh I doubt you've looked everywhere. Wow, I'm good.
[21:39] <MozZo> how can i select a databate in mysql and then insert something inside it? (i'm in ubuntu 11.4)
[21:39] <Onepamopa> OmegaForte well, google knows all, so if google cant find it ....
[21:39] <OmegaForte> Onepamopa, http://pastebin.com/RaVrP17n
[21:39] <OmegaForte> Whose the man? I am.
[21:40] <Janine> OmegaForte:  http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&biw=934&bih=633&q=logitech+vx+nano+linux&btnG=Search&oq=logitech+vx+nano+linux&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=0l0l0l18012l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0
[21:40] <Onepamopa> OmegaForte b136 = 12 months ago
[21:40] <enyawix> MozZo: install myphpadmin
[21:40] <Onepamopa> current (official last) is b147
[21:40] <Onepamopa> released like a week ago
[21:40] <OmegaForte> Janine, Okay, nevermind. I'll do it for you.
[21:40] <wernerdev> astraljava: Toilet, be right back.
[21:40] <astraljava> wernerdev: Probably, it's not perfect. I can't even get it to compile, despite configure not complaining about anything crucial. Have at it, my hands are up in the air. :)
[21:41] <OmegaForte> Janine, http://wiki.eeeuser.com/configure_logitech_vx_nano?s=nano looks to solve your problem.
[21:41] <MozZo> enyawix: i counln't find it.. how can i install it in terminal?
[21:42] <Janine> OmegaForte:  It says it only fixes horizontal, not vertical
[21:42] <enyawix> MozZo: do you have apache on that box?
[21:43] <OmegaForte> Janine, Well, I'd debug it for you, but I don't have the mouse. Typically, you can mess with x.conf a bit before it herps. Try doing some 4 5 switching to see if you can get it to work.
[21:43] <MozZo> enyawix: nope! :(
[21:43] <enyawix> wow mysql is hard by hand
[21:43] <MozZo> enyawix: should i first have to install apache2?
[21:44] <Janine> OmegaForte:  Can you tell me how to do that 4 5 switching?
[21:45] <enyawix>  MozZo: yes phpmyadmin runs in apache as a CMS
[21:45] <OmegaForte> Janine, I am not user friendly. Give me a tick and I'll do all the work for you.
[21:45] <astraljava> wernerdev: Heh, just the one file I am looking for, INSTALL, is missing. Yeah, I give up. Hopefully you get it to work somehow.
[21:46] <OmegaForte> Janine, Add this to the bottom of input device for your mouse . Option       "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
[21:46] <dina_> hello
[21:46] <dina_> I need help to install real player in ubuntu
[21:46] <OmegaForte> dina_, No you don't. Trust me.
[21:46] <OmegaForte> dina_, type sudo apt-get vlc
[21:46] <dina_> wondering if any body here ever had it installed
[21:46] <Janine> OmegaForte:  How do I edit that input device file?
[21:46] <wernerdev> astraljava: You have the same error?
[21:47] <OmegaForte> Janine, http://linux.die.net/man/5/xorg.conf
[21:47] <dina_> : Invalid operation vlc
[21:47] <Janine> OmegaForte:  this is insane. That much to fix a bloody mouse wheel
[21:47] <dina_> i really have a problem installing it
[21:47] <Janine> OmegaForte:  Id rather buy a new mouse, then
[21:48] <Onepamopa> OmegaForte: Class not found: javac1.7
[21:48] <dina_> i followed the step is in every help
[21:48] <dina_> found
[21:48] <OmegaForte> Janine, You're likely going to have to do this again.
[21:48] <dina_> does any one have it on installed?
[21:48] <OmegaForte> Janine, So you might as well do it now. And, it'll make you smarter too!
[21:48] <dina_> Realplayer?
[21:48] <edbian> Does remote desktop have a log??
[21:48] <OmegaForte> dina_, You do not need realplayer. You need vlc.
[21:48] <edbian> realplayer  hahahahah
[21:48] <guntbert> dina_: there was an omission: use sudo apt-get install vlc
[21:48] <dina_> i need realplayer because I was able to save videos from youtube
[21:49] <OmegaForte> I know right.
[21:49] <Janine> OmegaForte: can you do the editing if I send you the file?
[21:49] <OmegaForte> dina_, You do not need realplayer for the firth time.
[21:49] <dina_> wondering with vlc i can do this too
[21:49] <edbian> dina_: You should use firefox plugins to do that.
[21:49] <AviMarcus> dina_, "ant" something is a firefox plugin
[21:49] <OmegaForte> Janine, Sure. I'll do it. <Meniachal laugh>
[21:49] <dina_> ok
[21:49] <AviMarcus> it works quite awesomely for downloading any kind of flash video
[21:49] <OmegaForte> Janine, Just dcc it to me.
[21:49] <AviMarcus> and I usually use keepvid for saving youtube stuff anyway
[21:49] <OmegaForte> I use youtubedroid or jdownloader.
[21:50] <OmegaForte> Jdownloader is awesome.
[21:50] <MozZo> enyawix: but i just create and database in mysql from ubuntu's terminal but wondering how can I select that and then add some tables into it? do u know that?
[21:50] <OmegaForte> Janine, You need to learn how to do this stuff if you're going to run linux.
[21:50] <wernerdev> astraljava: You are not going to believe me. I just removed the whole source and uncompressed it from the archive again. "./configure" and "make". And now "checkinstall" just worked perfectly...
[21:50] <MozZo> *create a database
[21:50] <OmegaForte> wernerdev, That happens sometimes dude. It's like that 1d100 "Annoy the user" chance.
[21:51] <wernerdev> OmegaForte: Hehe must be. Well I'm glad it worked now...
[21:51] <enyawix> MozZo: ok i will plost my list of basic commands
[21:51] <Janine> OmegaForte: Im only using linux on my laptop and all I do is browse the web. I have a stationary with windows. How do I find that magic file?
[21:51] <ra-b-bit> does anyone know why bash dosn't open when i put the "bash" command into the terminal?
[21:51] <enyawix> MozZo: can i msg you the commands?
[21:51] <astraljava> wernerdev: No problems in believing. It's just like that, sometimes. Well, hopefully it will install on the server too. :)
[21:52] <OmegaForte> wernerdev, When I was patching emerald to get a little better Uwxvga support, it failed four times in a row with 0.
[21:52] <MozZo> enyawix: yup why not!
[21:52] <OmegaForte> Janine, That manpage tells you where the file is.
[21:52] <astraljava> wernerdev: And no, it failed on compiling ldap support.
[21:52] <Janine> OmegaForte:  the extremely long file path?
[21:52] <guntbert> ra-b-bit: what happens instead?
[21:53] <OmegaForte> Janine, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:53] <ra-b-bit> nothing
[21:53] <ra-b-bit> just
[21:53] <wernerdev> astraljava: Ah ok. Well thanks a lot for trying for me. Really appreciate it!
[21:53] <dualcore> how does irc and net splits work?
[21:53] <ra-b-bit> returns another $
[21:53] <wernerdev> astraljava: And thanks for all your information.
[21:53] <astraljava> wernerdev: Just glad you got it working, that's all. :)
[21:53] <OmegaForte> dualcore, A netsplit is when the server thinks you've been on enough and wants you to take a break
[21:54] <ra-b-bit> guntbert: really wierd since its installed...
[21:54] <guntbert> ra-b-bit: after typing bash press <ctrl>d, you will see exit, that means you opened bash and closed it again, bash is the default shell
[21:54] <Janine> OmegaForte:  there are no file named that in that folder. It's not hidden either
[21:54] <OmegaForte> Are you even running Ubuntu?
[21:54] <ra-b-bit> ooo
[21:55] <astraljava> ra-b-bit: That's exactly what's supposed to be happening. You're already running bash, when you instantiate another bash instance. That's all.
[21:55] <guntbert> ra-b-bit: :)
[21:55] <ldr> Janine in many case an xorg.conf file is not neede today you have to edit the files in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d instead
[21:55] <ra-b-bit> ohhh
[21:55] <OmegaForte> I just edit xorg.conf because I'mma baws.
[21:55] <Janine> OmegaForte:  did you see what ldr wrote?
[21:55] <OmegaForte> Janine, Yeah, I saw it. And I also said why I use that one.
[21:55] <astraljava> OmegaForte: You can still do that, but in some (most?) cases it's not even necessary at all.
[21:56] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: I installed new HD on computer.
[21:56] <OmegaForte> astraljava, That's what I do, and that's how I does it.
[21:56] <ra-b-bit> astraljava, guntbert: thanks :D
[21:56] <astraljava> OmegaForte: By all means. :D
[21:56] <ldr> Janine which file to edit their depends on your mouse
[21:56] <OmegaForte> astraljava, And it saves me time typing in pathnames when I BREAK EVERYTHING.
[21:56] <guntbert> ra-b-bit: you're welcome :-)
[21:56] <astraljava> OmegaForte: Gotcha on that.
[21:56] <Janine> ldr: how do I find the right file?
[21:57] <OmegaForte> astraljava, Which I did quite a bit fighting emerald.
[21:57] <ra-b-bit> guntbert, how to start scripting then from terminal?
[21:57] <ldr> Janine in most files you file a matchproduct or matchdevicepath entry
[21:58] <ldr> Janine whats the type of mouse you are using?
[21:58] <guntbert> ra-b-bit: did you see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal ?
[21:58] <DependiGroup> is anyone familiar with winne?
[21:58] <astraljava> ra-b-bit: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[21:58] <Janine> ldr: Logitech VX Nano
[21:58] <OmegaForte> Hahaha...Buffaloberry.
[21:59] <enyawix>   ldr:   cat: /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d: No such file or directory
[21:59] <freax> Hi all.. I have a doubt on networking in Ubuntu
[22:00] <OmegaForte> freax, One doubt? There are many. Does ubuntu really know where my socks are?
[22:00] <ra-b-bit> astraljava, guntbert thanks sorry for the newb questions i just started :P thanks for the mans
[22:00] <astraljava> freax: Ubuntu networks excellently. What's your problem, then?
[22:00] <ldr> enyawix maybe its not their on some ubuntu versions
[22:00] <ldr> enyawix or even somewhere else
[22:00] <astraljava> ra-b-bit: No probs, get on board, it's fun up here.
[22:00] <ldr> Janine sec
[22:00] <guntbert> ra-b-bit: no problem :) we all started somewhere and you are doing the best thing to learn :-))
[22:00] <jvgeli> found out the hard way that Fedora's Grub legacy does not play well with Natty's Grub2.
[22:00]  * OmegaForte is still waiting for /dcc's.
[22:02] <Anon1234> Hi, I've got trouble when playing games in fullscreen. The touchpad seems to be too sensitive, compared to when playing in a window
[22:02] <Janine> ldr: ok
[22:02] <OmegaForte> Anon1234, It's because your xorg conf is matching by pixels to travel, not percent of screen.
[22:02] <Anon1234> OmegaForte: Oh. And how do I fix that?
[22:03] <ldr> Janine i try to send you a file if you just put it in that directory it could already work
[22:03] <OmegaForte> Anon1234, By editing /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[22:03] <Janine> ldr: ok
[22:03] <krazykrivda> what does the 's' denot in "-rwsrwsrwx" for a files permissions (from ls =l)
[22:03] <Anon1234> OmegaForte: I have no experience with xorg really, what settings would I change?
[22:03] <OmegaForte> sorry astraljava, Hit enter by mistake.
[22:03] <ldr> Janine can you revceive dcc transfers?
[22:03] <astraljava> OmegaForte: No prob, it was a lame joke anyway. :)
[22:04] <AceKing> Does anyone know how I can share a single folder on my PC over the internet?
[22:04] <ldr> Janine i already try to send you the fcile
[22:04] <OmegaForte> Anon1234, Open a terminal, and type "man xorg"
[22:04] <Janine> use upload.com
[22:04] <Anon1234> OmegaForte: I've got no xorg.conf
[22:04] <Janine> ldr:  use upload.com?
[22:04] <ldr> okay
[22:04] <OmegaForte> Anon1234, You don't have this file "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[22:04] <Anon1234> No
[22:05] <OmegaForte> Anon1234, Then how are you in a desktop mode?
[22:05] <OmegaForte> Anon1234, What build are you running?
[22:05] <Anon1234> OmegaForte: natty
[22:05] <ldr> Janine do i have to register their? then its to mcuh effot one sec i find another way
[22:05] <OmegaForte> Anon1234, ATI?
[22:05] <Anon1234> OmegaForte: no, intel
[22:05] <Janine> ldr:  i dont think you need to register
[22:05] <OmegaForte> Anon1234, Don't know anything about how intel writes it's xorg conf. Sorry homes.
[22:06] <astraljava> Anon1234: OmegaForte: Really, it's not needed in most cases. The system detects on-the-fly most of the settings required.
[22:06] <OmegaForte> astraljava, He wants to switch from pixels to move, to percent of screen.
[22:06] <Anon1234> astraljava: that clears my worries :D
[22:06] <OmegaForte> astraljava, Only way I know how to do that is through YAST or xorg.
[22:06] <Anon1234> OmegaForte: But that happens only in fullscreen for some reason
[22:06] <Pici> ldr: If its just a textfile you can use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[22:06] <Anon1234> Is that typical?
[22:07] <Meldanion> hello all, iam in the partition system of Linux, and there's an option to create an EFI partition, what does that mean exactly?
[22:07] <OmegaForte> Anon1234, Is it a lower resolution than your desktop?
[22:07] <cmanns> So what should I download to do PXE boot install?
[22:07] <Anon1234> OmegaForte: No, it's exactly same
[22:07] <cmanns> This jetbook wont boot from usb, cdroms broken...
[22:07] <astraljava> Anon1234: OmegaForte: I have no idea how to do that, but if it's done in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, you can always create it yourself.
[22:07] <OmegaForte> Meldanion, EFI , Extensible  Firmware Interface, is for macs and junk.
[22:07] <OmegaForte> Anon1234, Okay, then it's the game's settings. If it were a lower resolution, I'd go with changing the travel type.
[22:07] <OmegaForte> Anon1234, Check the game's settings.
[22:08] <Anon1234> OmegaForte: But it happens no matter what game it is
[22:08] <OmegaForte> Anon1234, Then you broke it. I don't know.
[22:08] <Anon1234> OmegaForte: oh well. I didn't chane anything
[22:08] <ldr> Pici thx i uploaded it on a server i own Janine you see the query?
[22:08] <Meldanion> OmegaForte i have a Macbook and i formatted all to put ubuntu. My question is if its possible to have EFI and grub at the same time?
[22:08] <Anon1234> OmegaForte: but at least I know more or less what to look for now
[22:08] <Janine> ldr:  yea thanks
[22:08] <OmegaForte> Anon1234, That doesnt' actually mean you messed with it...It just means something's wrong and I can't fix it from space.
[22:09] <Meldanion> or only Grub in a Macbook?
[22:09] <OmegaForte> Meldanion, Yeah, you need to use an EFI layer.
[22:09] <ldr> Janine just put it in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ it should resolve your mousewheel problems right away
[22:09] <Anon1234> OmegaForte: Well, thanks anyway. I know what to look for now. I think it was like this as soon as I installed natty
[22:09] <ldr> Janine you need to restart the xserver though
[22:10] <Meldanion> Sorry, EFI layer?
[22:10] <OmegaForte> Meldanion, You know how it said EFI? You need that for macs. Mac's don't use normal bioses. They use EFI, which is a HAL layer before the Operating System. A waste of time; if you ask me..
[22:11] <Janine> ldr:  im unable to copy it to that folder
[22:11] <astraljava> Anon1234: Has this got something to do with that? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7152711&postcount=14
[22:12] <ldr> Janine you have to be root of course so start cp with sudo
[22:12] <OmegaForte> And astraljava Just learned how to switch mouse travel modes!
[22:12] <astraljava> OmegaForte: Oh? Please do share.
[22:12] <Meldanion> so can i create an EFI partition too? Ext4, Swap and EFI? and one question more: size of Efi partition?
[22:13] <OmegaForte> astraljava, has gained 5 experience points! Setting wrap modes defines the space the mouse has to travel, not the pixel bias of the resolution!
[22:13] <OmegaForte> Something that's typically done automatically.
[22:13] <Anon1234> astraljava: Oh, that's not it. This is about the pointer being always visible
[22:13] <OmegaForte> But some things just derp, and require you to hold it's hand.
[22:13] <astraljava> Anon1234: Ahh... visible, but is it moving?
[22:13] <Anon1234> astraljava: It moves too fast here, but only with a touchpad. It ignores the sensitivity
[22:13] <Janine> ldr:  how do I do that
[22:14] <freax> Hi all..i have a doubt on networking in Ubuntu
[22:14] <ldr> Meldanion i always thought efi is a type of aprtition table not a type of partition
[22:14] <Anon1234> astraljava: Yes, but too fast. But when I use a mouse it works great!
[22:14] <freax> Can anyone tell how can I create a wireless network through terminal?
[22:14] <ldr> Janine type: sudo xp 50-logitech-xv.conf /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[22:14] <magpii> I am trying to install avidemux and i keep getting this message "Failed to fetch http://mirror.as29550.net/archive.ubuntu.com/pool/multiverse/a/avidemux/avidemux_2.5.4-0ubuntu6_i386.deb Hash Sum mismatch
[22:14] <OmegaForte> Okay. That proves it. It's bed time.
[22:14] <astraljava> Anon1234: Ahh... yes, touchpads are evil. I would just disable them altogether, if I had it my way.
[22:14] <ldr> Janine in a terminal
[22:14] <magpii> anyone help?
[22:14] <Meldanion> yeah ldr but iam in linux and ask me for the size of efi
[22:14] <ldr> Meldanion so size is nrmally the whole disk? isnt it?
[22:14] <OmegaForte> I'll catch you guys later. My brain is now dead.
[22:15] <Anon1234> astraljava: Unfortunately there's no space to use a mouse on a move. And when you're bored, games are the solution
[22:15] <astraljava> OmegaForte: You could have just spoken hebrew for all I know, but cool!
[22:15] <ldr> Meldanion okay didnt know its possible to have a msdos partition section and an EFI one on one disk
[22:15] <astraljava> Anon1234: There's always IRC, and specifically this channel? :D
[22:16] <Anon1234> astraljava: Ah, but I usually have no connection. Otherwise I would hang out here on the move
[22:16] <Janine> ldr:  it says: XP: Command not found
[22:16] <TheCyph3r> I'm trying to put an SD in my comp, but it's not mounting unless I restart w/ the card in...is there a command I can use to mount it?
[22:16] <ldr> oh sorry
[22:16] <lsv> is it normal if iwconfig shows wifi0 and wlan0 but I only have one wireless card?
[22:16] <ldr> Janine typing mistake cp instead of xp
[22:17] <TheCyph3r> I'm trying to put an SD in my comp, but it's not mounting unless I restart w/ the card in...is there a command I can use to mount it?
[22:17] <ldr> Janine you can get the whole command back by pressing the up arrow so you dont have to type it all again
[22:17] <astraljava> magpii: Sounds like the mirror is a little out of date. Hash sum mismatch means the result of the download won't match the hash sum taken of the file on the server.
[22:17] <dina_> thank you guys for your help really appreciate.
[22:17] <dina_> it
[22:17] <lsv> TheCyph3r: man mount
[22:17] <astraljava> magpii: Can you try some other mirror, perhaps?
[22:17] <magpii> astra< how can i resolve this issue?
[22:18] <magpii> ahh, no, there isnt any others listed
[22:18] <senshikaze> I bought beep last week, and am getting an error when trying to install it "Failed to download package files. Check your internet connection" I am on the computer with the error and my ubuntu pay page shows the payment went through.
[22:18] <dina_> it worked I am downloading my first movie :)
[22:18] <astraljava> magpii: Where are there no others listed?
[22:18] <Janine> ldr: cp: cannot stat `50-logitech-xv.conf': No such file or directory
[22:18] <astraljava> dina_: Hopefully fully in cooperation with the local laws, too. :)
[22:18] <magpii> this is where i am getting it from http://www.getdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/10.10/?q=avidemux
[22:19] <dina_> :)
[22:19] <ldr> Janine you have to run it from the directory where you downloded the file to
[22:19] <Rammstein1> Hello, is there any way to reset Ubuntu or possibly uninstall Gnome 3? I installed that to play around and it only conflicts with Ubuntu Unity.
[22:19] <ldr> where do you download it to?
[22:19] <dina_> where I am it should be no copy rights but thanks to microsoft we have copy rights and anti piracy etc
[22:19] <astraljava> magpii: Sorry, as far as I know, we won't support getdeb. Is there some reason you're using that, instead of the one in the official repo?
[22:20] <Janine> ldr:  the file is in my home folder, where do I put it?
[22:20] <wernerdev> astraljava: Now installed it, I can connect to it. But it didn't create any config files. I kept the old config files since I did not Purge the old Netatalk. Also the init.d script tells it to look at the default config file location, but somehow it does not load it.
[22:20] <stefano> ho un problema nel settare la mia rete wireless ... qualcuno può aiutarmi?
[22:20] <astraljava> dina_: Copyrights are not just for mega-corporations, but let's not get into that, it's way off-topic here.
[22:20] <magpii> its the only one i know of lol. fairly new to video editors on ubuntu, used to using cs4 on (cough) windows
[22:21] <siert> stefano: can you ask the question in english?
[22:21] <wernerdev> astraljava: Then I found something similar on Google, and tried runnin
[22:21] <th0r> !it
[22:21] <dina_> MS has started it and it has impacted everything else not only software.
[22:21] <wernerdev> astraljava: Then I found something similar on Google, and tried running "sudo netatalk-config". But don't know what options to put in.
[22:21] <dina_> it worked thanks again
[22:22] <senshikaze> dina_, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_copyright_law
[22:22] <astraljava> wernerdev: Probably just a small difference between versions. If you just move aside the old config, and restart the application, will it create a new config from a template? Then you can see what you had in the old config, and make the necessary changes for the new one.
[22:22] <freax> can anyone please tell how to create a wireless network through terminal?
[22:22] <magpii> can you give me a link to a good video editor package i can download please?
[22:22] <yagoo> freax, what do you mean?
[22:23] <yagoo> freax, you mean you want to setup a wireless AP server?
[22:23] <wernerdev> astraljava: Guess I'll leave it this for tonight. I will try that tomorrow. Had enough of it today :P
[22:23] <TheCyph3r> I'm trying to put an SD in my comp, but it's not mounting unless I restart w/ the card in, and "sudo mount -a" isn't working...is there a command I can use to mount it?
[22:23] <Rammstein1> Is there anyway to restore Ubuntu to state of when it first installed to give me a good distro to check out, please?
[22:23] <freax> yagoo, i mean a wlan type of network to play games etc..
[22:23] <siert> freax: `man wireless` explains the most import stuff/references
[22:23] <astraljava> magpii: I understand that it's the one you want to use, but why can't you use the one in the official repos? It's there, you know.
[22:23] <siert> freax: not through command line -> use network manager applet
[22:23] <astraljava> wernerdev: Sure, take a look at the documentation. That _should_ be covered there.
[22:23] <freax> siert : Yes i did but I didnt find any suitable commands for that
[22:24] <wernerdev> astraljava: Thanks again! Good night.
[22:24] <siert> freax: you need /etc/network/interfaces for permanent connections or iwconfig/iwpriv for manual stuff from the cli
[22:24] <yagoo> freax, an applet is a gui icon
[22:24] <astraljava> wernerdev: Have a good one!
[22:24] <TheCyph3r> I'm trying to put an SD in my comp, but it's not mounting unless I restart w/ the card in, and "sudo mount -a" isn't working...is there a command I can use to mount it?
[22:24] <magpii> ok, whats the one in the reps called?
[22:24] <freax> yagoo : Yes
[22:24] <Ynodde> Rammstein1:you can use virtualisation to check out new distros
[22:24] <astraljava> magpii: avidemux?
[22:25] <magpii> i can use any once i get one installed that i can play with
[22:25] <magpii> ok, gimme a sec to check
[22:25] <freax> yagoo, I know applet will be gui icon.. I wanted to know if there are any cli commands
[22:25] <wernerdev> astraljava: I uninstalled my DEB file and found out what goes wrong. "'/usr/local/etc/netatalk' not empty so not removed."
[22:26] <astraljava> magpii: It's just a helpful hint, _always_ check the repos first, before searching for apps outside.
[22:26] <siert> freax: iwlist scans network, iwconfig sets wireless stuff (iwconfig -h) and dhclient/ifconfig sets IP stuff onto the adapter
[22:26] <wernerdev> astraljava: For some reason it now installs in /usr/local/ :S
[22:26] <siert> freax: the manual pages of these commands refer to other wireless related commands aswell... dive into it :)
[22:26] <yagoo> freax, of course.. but you obviously don't know what an AP is.. so that's why you should research what you want.. (check wikipedia: wifi AP point)
[22:26] <freax> siert : Okay, I will look into that now..
[22:26] <astraljava> wernerdev: That's just that there's some cruft there, so it won't remove the directory. Might not affect your existing install in any way.
[22:26] <astraljava> wernerdev: That's what checkinstall does.
[22:27] <magpii> astraljava: thanks lol. I tried the ubuntu studio and couldnt get it running so went online to get another. didnt realize it was in the rep. thanks again
[22:27] <astraljava> wernerdev: You will have to specify a different target if you want it elsewhere, however, that's a perfectly viable target for it.
[22:27] <astraljava> magpii: No prob. :)
[22:27] <Janine_> ldr: it didnt work
[22:28] <wernerdev> astraljava: Ah so /usr/local/ is a default setting of checkinstall... So if I put the file there and change the init.d file it should work...
[22:28] <ldr> Janine did you restart the x server?
[22:28] <ldr> Janine and the mouse wheel still didnt work?
[22:28] <astraljava> wernerdev: I'd be surprised if you had to edit the init.d file in any way.
[22:28] <Janine_> ldr:  I did everything 100% as you told me and it gave no errors
[22:28] <Anon1234> I give up, no searches show results. How come that when I have a problem I'm the only one :D
[22:29] <yagoo> wernerdev, anything "local" is for non-distro stuff that "may" be used by third-party installers
[22:29] <freax> yagoo, u meant AP as access point.. I definitely know its function.. Wanted to check how I can create an adhoc type of network over wifi..
[22:29] <astraljava> wernerdev: Normally they won't specify absolute paths, just for the sake of having multiple binaries in the filesystem, and then it just becomes a matter of order in $PATH, or via alternatives.
[22:30] <yagoo> !adhoc
[22:30] <astraljava> Anon1234: Sorry, I really have no idea what to look for. Like I said, touchpads are evil. I hate mine, and never use it.
[22:30] <wernerdev> astraljava: The init.d file points to "/etc/netatalk" for config files. But apparently it is getting installed in "/usr/local/etc/netatalk". Maybe Netatalk supplies it's own init.d script?
[22:30] <yagoo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc
[22:30] <siert> freax: `iwconfig` will list your wireless devices, iwconfig <device> essid <ap> key <ap> etc. will bring up the wireless network, don't forget to put IP over it with ifconfig (static) or dhclient (dhcp), etc. ... it's quiet easy, but to be honest I use nm-apllet these days :P
[22:30] <Janine_> ldr: any ideas?
[22:31] <wernerdev> astraljava: Well at least I now know where the problem is. I will (try to) fix it tomorrow.
[22:31] <Anon1234> astraljava: I'm starting to too. I'll try to get help with a different problem
[22:31] <astraljava> wernerdev: The configs are also under /usr/local ?! That's... nuts. Oh well, you can always symlink to them from /etc/netatalk.
[22:32] <Anon1234> My login time seems to keep on getting longer. It takes about 10s now, compared to almost instant after install
[22:32] <ldr> Janine_ can you paste me the output of cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log in pastebin
[22:32] <wernerdev> astraljava: Yes they are. Good idea. Well I'm off for real now. Good night!
[22:32] <freax> siert : When i give iwconfig, its telling that no wireless extensions are there for l0 and eth0..does that mean that my wireless driver has to have these extensions?
[22:32] <ldr> Janine_ but i still try to figure out if the conf didnt work or if you werent able to restart you x server? did you log off cause you restartet the whole computer?
[22:33] <siert> anyone here experienced with landscape in a huge Ubuntu desktop business environment?
[22:33] <Janine_> ldr:  I can paste it in private chat
[22:33] <magpii> astraljava: sorry to bother you again. I just installed via synaptic package manager and I am getting the same error message as before
[22:33] <ldr> yes
[22:34] <siert> freax: lo is loopback, eth0 is the first ethernet device, etc. if there isn't any wireless adapter listed, check `lspci` and if the correct kernel module is loaded
[22:34] <siert> freax: does your adapter work within the graphical environment? if true -> it'll work on the shell aswell
[22:35] <ryan-c> how big is the full x86_64 repo?
[22:35] <siert> ryan-c: for all ubuntu distro's or a single one (which one?)
[22:35] <ryan-c> for all 11.04
[22:36] <ryan-c> with and without source would be nice to know.
[22:36] <AviMarcus> how does nautilus sort characters? I used to use a ! prefix in windows to force things to the top
[22:36] <freax> Yes its Broadcomm's and is working fine within the graphical env
[22:36] <AviMarcus> 0 works, but I want something before numbers, eve.
[22:36] <astraljava> magpii: If it's a long one, please pastebin it.
[22:36] <siert> ryan-c: I did a sync of 10.04 LTS last week and remember about 10-12GB, don't know the size exactly
[22:36] <Onepamopa> blah, when can we expect sun java7 x64 package @ repositories ?
[22:36] <Onepamopa> when debian makes it 1st, and ubuntu takes it ?
[22:37] <astraljava> Anon1234: No idea what could be going on. What have you recently installed? Maybe take a look at ~/.Xsession-errors. Some people have had problems with Ubuntu One syncs upon login.
[22:37] <freax> siert : How can I check whether the correct kernel module is loaded or not/
[22:37] <yagoo> Onepamopa, rsync you're talking about? what do you mean sync?
[22:38] <Onepamopa> yagoo rsync? read again ...
[22:38] <yagoo> freax, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[22:38] <ryan-c> Onepamopa: when oracle pull their head out of their arse.
[22:39] <ryan-c> oh wait that will never happen
[22:39] <Onepamopa> yeah, that part is true
[22:39] <yagoo> siert, that was for u
[22:39] <Onepamopa> ryan-c what I dont understand is why there are .rpm packages but no .bin or .deb .......
[22:39] <Anon1234> astraljava: Nothing really. Only switched the battery indicator for something better. And .Xsession-errors seems to not have any errors during startup
[22:39] <ryan-c> siert: ~60GB should be plenty?
[22:39] <kids> hello, is this the support channel?
[22:39] <siert> freax: just check `lspci |grep -i network` and check if your card is listed @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported :) thx yagoo
[22:39] <Onepamopa> & why do they even provide .tar.gz when we cant fully use them
[22:40] <yagoo> kids, no.. it's a learning discussion channel.. we're volunteers
[22:40] <ryan-c> Onepamopa: because they don't care about anyone who isn't using their own distro or maybe RHEL.
[22:40] <magpii> astraljava: just removing ubuntu studio as i cant get it to work. once complete i will try re install the mux program and pastebin the error message
[22:40] <siert> ryan-c: for a single release/arch it will
[22:40] <kids> okay...yagoo thanks...I was trying to figure out how to launch the equivelant of the copmmand prompt screen in edubuntu
[22:40] <ryan-c> siert: w00t.
[22:40] <ryan-c> thanks
[22:40] <kids> any ideas?
[22:40] <astraljava> Anon1234: Sorry, I'm stumped. Good luck with that!
[22:41] <usr13> kids: Ctrl-Alt-F6
[22:41] <yagoo> kids, maybe ctl-alt-f1, or ctl-alt-f2... to get back to graphical.. it may be ctl-alt-f7
[22:41] <freax> siert : Yes dude, I already checked and its there.. "Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)"
[22:41] <kids> I am trying to install netextender and it says...Run the install script:
[22:41] <kids> 	cd netExtenderClient
[22:41] <BRASIL> manifesto of the Brazilian people (ministry of agriculture and hacked)
[22:41] <ryan-c> going to have extended periods of time without internet access in the next few weeks, would like to be able to get stuff done.
[22:41] <BRASIL> http://www.ceplac.gov.br/restrito/lerNoticia.asp?id=1798
[22:41] <BRASIL> manifesto of the Brazilian people (ministry of agriculture and hacked)
[22:41] <BRASIL> http://www.ceplac.gov.br/restrito/lerNoticia.asp?id=1798
[22:41] <Anon1234> astraljava: I will keep on trying. It seems some people have the same problem, but no solution anywhere
[22:41] <FloodBot1> BRASIL: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:41] <BRASIL> manifesto of the Brazilian people (ministry of agriculture and hacked)
[22:41] <BRASIL> http://www.ceplac.gov.br/restrito/lerNoticia.asp?id=1798
[22:41] <Onepamopa> ryan-c blah, that doesnt sound good
[22:41] <astraljava> magpii: As you wish, but the studio part shouldn't affect in it in any way.
[22:41] <usr13> kids: Open a terminal window
[22:41] <yagoo> !ops BRASIL
[22:41] <st47> >.>
[22:41] <kids> but I do not know where to type that or what app to use.
[22:41] <siert> ryan-c: get apt-mirror -> it will report the total size before downloading
[22:41] <ryan-c> siert: thanks
[22:41] <Onepamopa> ryan-c then, I hope apache-group sue them
[22:42] <Onepamopa> hard
[22:42] <usr13> kids: Open a terminal window and cd to the directory that the scirpt is in.
[22:42] <ryan-c> Onepamopa: My main reason for being pissed at them lately is ksplice.
[22:42] <Anon1234> Btw., does anybody have an idea about stability of oneiric?
[22:42] <yagoo> kids, you asked a qustion about command prompt.. you are not using the standard ubuntu like most of us.. this third party software has nothing to do with the ubuntu project
[22:42] <Anon1234> Is it usable on day-to-day basis?
[22:42] <FloodBot1> BRASIL: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:43] <st47> FloodBot1: is slow
[22:43] <magpii> astraljava: I know, i just hate having programs installed that are corrupted or wont work.
[22:43] <astraljava> Anon1234: No! It's still under development!
[22:43] <siert> ryan-c: another way is to check the packages.gz file..
[22:43] <ironfoot495> hello I'm running ubuntu 10.04 and I have a lag problem when I view movies or videos is there a cure for this problem?
[22:43] <astraljava> Anon1234: Unless you really, really, I MEAN REALLY know what you're doing, don't run it.
[22:43] <ryan-c> ::effort::
[22:43] <Anon1234> Anon1234: Well sometimes things are stable during development
[22:43] <siert> ryan-c: check pm
[22:43] <Anon1234> Whoops, I mean astraljava
[22:43] <ryan-c> ty
[22:44] <astraljava> Anon1234: I know, I run them all the time. But oneiric isn't, at this moment.
[22:44] <Anon1234> astraljava: I'll wait then
[22:44] <ironfoot495> I'm using firefox and have adobe flash but still it lags!!
[22:44] <th0r> ironfoot495: reducing the load on system resources might help. Turn off compiz and other graphic effects, stop any extra running processes, etc
[22:44] <yagoo> ironfoot495, often that was the case for me when i do not have the optimum video driver
[22:45] <edbian> ironfoot495: hahahah, that's what firefox and flash do!
[22:45] <ryan-c> I remember back in the late 90s I was in several IRC channels that banned *!*@*.br due to them having an excessively high tendency to be annoying. :'(
[22:45] <siert> ryan-c: ofcourse you'll need to do that for binaries/security&sources :P
[22:45] <ironfoot495> ok thanks!
[22:45] <astraljava> magpii: Most of the time, the apps themselves aren't corrupted. It's just something about your specific system. Please give us the pastebin entry containing the error, and we'll see whether we can fix it.
[22:45] <yagoo> ironfoot495, u have nvidia?
[22:45] <ironfoot495> oh is there away around firefox and flash.
[22:46] <ironfoot495> yes I have nvidia!
[22:46] <yagoo> !nvidia
[22:46] <astraljava> LostMyNAS: Sorry to hear that!
[22:47] <LostMyNAS> astraljava: yah, i'm not real happy right now..
[22:47] <bikcmp> hm.  I managed to move my bar contiaining all of the windows i have open to the top of my screen.
[22:47] <magpii> astraljava: i dont get an error with studio, i just cant find the start option for it in the system menu
[22:47] <bikcmp> how do i move it back to the bottom? i'm using ubuntu classic.
[22:47] <astraljava> magpii: Ahh... well, you can always do it yourself.
[22:47] <ironfoot495> ok turned off everything other than the movie and still lag???
[22:48] <ironfoot495> it's driving me nuts
[22:48] <edbian> ironfoot495: flash sucks in linux
[22:48] <siert> edbian: flash always sucks ;)
[22:48] <astraljava> ironfoot495: flash is evil
[22:48] <edbian> ironfoot495: Some sites are smoother than other for me, like youtube
[22:48] <CoJaBo> flash sucks anywhere
[22:48] <freax> yagoo , siert : In that ubuntu docs page I couldn't find LP-PHY version of Broadcomm.. I rmber that I installed it through the Broadcomm package that was available in the pool folder of the iso image following the dependencies of fakeroot, patch, dkms and this broadcomm module
[22:48] <ironfoot495> it sure does is there a work around?
[22:48] <forzan> adobe sucks at making flash in linux
[22:48] <yagoo> ironfoot495, doesn't matter what you do.. as long as you don't verify the video driver.. nothing will play smoothly..
[22:48] <edbian> ironfoot495: Don't know why.  For sites that are un bearable I play the flash video in vlc
[22:48] <hcvay> can someone help me figure out how to switch my open vpn connection to tunnel traffic on a different device (ex: ppp0, eth0, eth1, etc.)
[22:48] <Onepamopa> ryan-c btw, is there nvidia-optimus support in ubuntu ?
[22:48] <iridium> flash sucks in windows, linux and max
[22:49] <iridium> *mac
[22:49] <ironfoot495> vlc does seem to work for eother!!
[22:49] <freax> yagoo, siert : So theres no way to configure my adapter type ?
[22:49] <ironfoot495> does not
[22:49] <forzan> newsflash: also on android phones
[22:49] <hcvay> can someone help me figure out how to switch my open vpn connection to tunnel traffic on a different device (ex: ppp0, eth0, eth1, etc.)
[22:49] <yagoo> freax, what's the deviceid of your broadcom?
[22:49] <astraljava> magpii: I have it under Sound & Video, but on Studio, it might be under Audio Production or something, don't have my Studio box open at the moment.
[22:49] <freax> BCM4312
[22:50] <ryan-c> Onepamopa: I have no idea, I hate laptops.
[22:50] <edbian> freax: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[22:50] <freax> yagoo : BCM4312
[22:50] <siert> freax: `lspci -nnn|grep BCM4312`
[22:50] <yagoo> that isnt the deviceid.. but i can use that info
[22:50] <ironfoot495> I've tried all the google fixes but still I can't get it right.
[22:50] <hcvay> exit
[22:50] <ryan-c> hcvay: you can set a static route to the VPN server that uses a particular device's default gateway.
[22:50] <freax> edbian : can i know what that will install
[22:50] <edbian> siert: yagoo freax he needs the firmware: firmware-b43-installer   will install it.  I've seen this 1 million times before
[22:50] <ironfoot495> some movies play well like ztshare but movshare sucks.
[22:51] <hcvay> thanks ryan-c
[22:51] <edbian> freax: You can see what any package will install.  Look at properties -> files on the package in synaptic
[22:51] <siert> edbian: not quiet sure, the later versions don't use b43 anymore
[22:51] <ryan-c> hcvay: ip route add <server ip> via <desired gateway ip>
[22:51] <Ksg89_> I'm trying again with the BCM4312 driver - such a pain
[22:51] <ironfoot495> well thanks guys I had to ask!!!
[22:51] <ryan-c> hcvay: you'll need sudo.
[22:51] <edbian> siert: It uses b43.  I have one.  He might have the lppy version but I don't think so
[22:51] <hcvay> will do ryan-c
[22:51] <edbian> Ksg89_: Do you have a b43 card as well?
[22:51] <Ksg89_> Yup
[22:52] <edbian> Ksg89_: want help?  which card?
[22:52] <siert> edbian: it could be the STA driver aswell...
[22:52] <ryan-c> hcvay: openvpn allows pre/post exec scripts to run IIRC, I would write a small shell script to set up the route that is run by openvpn before it brings up the tunnel.
[22:52] <freax> siert : It gave the same line : Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01)
[22:52] <edbian> siert: alright, try to use the STA driver.  I'm telling you though it's the b43 driver for that card.
[22:52] <Ksg89_> I'm good for now, just installing a package over USB
[22:52] <edbian> Ksg89_: sure :)
[22:52] <siert> freax: see the comments of edbian; try the b43 driver
[22:52] <hcvay> gotcha.. thanks
[22:53] <siert> freax: you'll need the package firmware-b43-installer
[22:53] <edbian> freax: The driver is installed by default.  You need to install the firmware most likely.  sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[22:53] <yagoo> freax, well if you could of pastebin what you have been trying then it can help us what's going on..
[22:55] <freax> edbian : I tried installing b43 firmware and it returned the foll errors at last
[22:55] <tyler_d> how do you determine the "active" screen properties in x?
[22:55] <freax> Not supported low-power chip with PCI id 14e4:4315!
[22:55] <freax> Aborting.
[22:55] <freax> dpkg: error processing firmware-b43-installer (--configure):
[22:55] <freax>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[22:55] <freax> Errors were encountered while processing:
[22:55] <freax>  firmware-b43-installer
[22:55] <FloodBot1> freax: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:55] <edbian> freax: a-ha!  The low power lppy chip :)
[22:56] <yagoo> !pastebin
[22:56] <edbian> freax: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-lpphy-installer
[22:56] <edbian> freax: special firmware for your card
[22:57] <Tigerboy> did a fresh install of Natty and after rebooting grub fails saying "incompatible license"?
[23:01] <astraljava> Tigerboy: Never heard of such. Would from this http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10680611&postcount=87 on out help you in any way?
[23:01] <Tigerboy> astraljava: thank you very much will read this.
[23:02] <edbian> freax: did you get it working?
[23:03] <Tigerboy> no it has no solution..
[23:05] <astraljava> Tigerboy: So how is your setup, then? Is Ubuntu the sole OS on the machine?
[23:05] <Numn> im looking for a app for ftp anyone?
[23:05] <magpii> astraljava: sorry, my system froze, whats that program for showing messages again? is it codepad?
[23:05] <astraljava> Numn: Client or server?
[23:05] <Numn> client i think
[23:06] <pingveno> Numn: GUI or commandline?
[23:06] <Numn> gui :P
[23:06] <pingveno> I'm rather fond of Filezilla
[23:06] <astraljava> magpii: What messages? If you mean the avidemux error messages at start time, you can just start it again, when your system runs again.
[23:06] <pingveno> KDE's Dolphin is quite good
[23:07] <vshah> join #youtube
[23:07] <astraljava> Numn: menu Places > Connect to server..., select Public FTP ?
[23:07] <magpii> astraljava: system resumed un installing studio so will give it a go after its finnished
[23:08] <Numn> astraljava, i dont understand there not any places in ubuntu?
[23:08] <astraljava> magpii: Okay. Hope it won't get too finnished, thought, cause that'd be awful. (hint: I'm a finn)
[23:08] <Numn> i mean xubuntu :D
[23:08] <pingveno> ah
[23:08] <pingveno> That's a bit of a different story...
[23:09] <magpii> astraljava: lol, sorry, my i cannot smell property
[23:09] <astraljava> Numn: Ahh... well then, gftp-gtk (aside the filezilla which was already mentioned)
[23:09] <pingveno> Numn: I think Filezilla will be best, then. I think it only has a few dependencies instead of pulling in KDE/Gnome
[23:10] <edbian> pingveno: Numn There is a firefox plugin that depends on nothing but firefox
[23:10] <Numn> oki,thx for the advice. im sort of new to linux :)
[23:10] <astraljava> magpii: I'd suggest seeing a doc for the not-being-able-to-smell problem. A local witch will be able to help with the spelling issues.
[23:11] <magpii> rofl
[23:12] <magpii> astraljava: there is no cure for what I suffer from :)#
[23:12] <pingveno> Oh, I like gftp
[23:12] <pingveno> Not as good as Dolphin, though
[23:12] <Numn> astraljava, are they both in the ubuntu central?
[23:13] <DANYAL> how to install tcl8.6 On Ubuntu Full package
[23:13] <astraljava> Numn: I suppose, they're in the repos, but sometimes I can't seem to find everything in the ubuntu store.
[23:14] <astraljava> Numn: If you can't find them there, try Synaptics, or in terminal `sudo apt-get install filezilla` or `sudo apt-get install gftp-gtk`
[23:14] <aroman1> Hi, I'm at the livecd installer right now. How can I *not* install a bootloader?
[23:14] <Numn> oki thx astral
[23:14] <induz> join/##slacks
[23:14] <astraljava> Numn: No prob.
[23:14] <DANYAL> how to install tcl8.6 On Ubuntu Full package
[23:15] <phrostbite> I bought a vga cord for my laptop running ubuntu, the tv says no signal. What am I doing wrong?>
[23:15] <magpii> astraljava: is there anyway i can post a config file that would show the state of my system? like any broken packages or software?
[23:15] <szal> !repeat | DANYAL
[23:15] <edbian> phrostbite: open the monitor gui
[23:15] <phrostbite> Where is that?
[23:15] <DANYAL> ok sorry
[23:16] <Numn> astraljava, sometimes they are not up to date somtimes in the repos.. kind of sad :/
[23:16] <aroman1> Does anyone know if it's possible to specifically not install the bootloader when installing Ubuntu?
[23:16] <StevenR> DANYAL: must you have 8.6? 8.5 is available in the repositories for 11.04
[23:17] <DANYAL> StevenR Tell Me How To Install 8.5 Full package
[23:17] <edbian> aroman1: I think it is possible.  My guess, do a manual partition and keep your eyes open for the option.
[23:17] <astraljava> Numn: I'd imagine Ubuntu Software Store to use the same settings for repos as other package managers. So it shouldn't be that, but some other issues I haven't had time to look at yet.
[23:17] <StevenR> DANYAL: fire up synaptic, or use apt-get
[23:17] <aroman1> edbian: that's what I'm at right now
[23:18] <edbian> aroman1: hang on...
[23:18] <aroman1> it says "Device for boot loadeer installation"
[23:18] <astraljava> magpii: Not really, cause the issue could be very isolated. I'd really need to see the error message, that's all.
[23:18] <StevenR> DANYAL: you can just search in the search box for it in synaptic, then right click on the bits that you want and choose install, then apply, and your computer will got off, grab the packages, and do the install.
[23:18] <Tigerboy> Phrostbite: did you make sure the tv is "source" is vga or pc perhaps
[23:19] <zroysch> excuse me. why would sudo fdisk -l show only my system partitions?
[23:19] <Tigerboy> should be a source button
[23:19] <phrostbite> Yeah I got it. I had a brain fart and didn't turn it on in the monitor setting :)
[23:19] <DANYAL> ok StevenR Ty
[23:19] <StevenR> zroysch: what are you expecting it to show?
[23:19] <aroman1> zroysch: "system partitions"?
[23:19] <P`AWAY> I have a notebook core 2 duo and 4GB RAM, the best ubuntu version for me is 32 ou 64 bits ?
[23:20] <StevenR> P`AWAY: 64 bit
[23:20] <zroysch> StevenR: more than just /dev/sdc1 sdc2 sdc5
[23:20] <zroysch> StevenR: expecting to see all drives connected to the machine
[23:20] <induz> is there any software that can make my USB bootable for linux/ubuntu
[23:20] <StevenR> zroysch: why, what else do you have?
[23:20] <induz> I am having problem with USB to make it bootable
[23:20] <zroysch> StevenR: other drives.
[23:20] <edbian> aroman1: The alternate CD installer allows you to choose. The regular installer does not.
[23:20] <StevenR> zroysch: please be more precise
[23:20] <edbian> aroman1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=270124
[23:20] <aroman1> edbian: wow that blows so much
[23:20] <aroman1> haha I just found that thread as well
[23:20] <P`AWAY> StevenR i read about some problems with the flash player in the 64 bits version, this is true ?
[23:21] <vaev> hmm... is it the property of ncurses with irssi for example (an irc client) to change the behaviour of my mouse wheel scroll in a terminal window?
[23:21] <zroysch> StevenR: several 3.5" hard drives connected to the machine with a sata cable
[23:21] <zroysch> StevenR: one is brand new
[23:21] <aroman1> edbian: do they even have alternate ISOs for Oneiric yet?
[23:21] <astraljava> induz: Depends on how you prepared the USB (stick? external HDD?) Does the BIOS support booting from USB (whatever) in the first place?
[23:21] <zroysch> StevenR: one is currently part of my mdadm raid1
[23:21] <StevenR> zroysch: do they show up as devices in /dev ? do you see them detected in dmesg ?
[23:21] <edbian> aroman1: No idea.  Ask in #ubuntu+1
[23:22] <aroman1> edbian: will do. thanks for the help ;)
[23:22] <induz> as a Pendrive/stick
[23:22] <induz> does this command work C:\>RAWRITE bare.i a:
[23:22] <IrrationlArtist> induz: try UNetBootin
[23:22] <zroysch> StevenR: i see all of them except the brand new drive i jsut connected
[23:23] <phrostbite> Ok on a side note. How do I remove the box int he top left that says mirror screens
[23:23] <pingveno> win goto #debian
[23:23] <astraljava> induz: Are you trying to prepare the stick on windows side?
[23:24] <StevenR> zroysch: ok, so how is that connected? please be really really precise.
[23:24] <StevenR> P`AWAY: seems to work for me (flash installed from packages)
[23:25] <astraljava> P`AWAY: Flash works just fine (or as fine as it can) on the 64-bit machines as well.
[23:26] <P`AWAY> ok guys
[23:26] <P`AWAY> thanks
[23:27] <zroysch> StevenR: thanks in checking it i realized the drive wasnt getting much power
[23:27] <zroysch> dunno whats up with my computer power supply. i get an abnormal amount (imo) of drive failures
[23:27] <astraljava> induz: Cause if you are, try this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#From Windows
[23:28] <induz> i tried with UNEbootin but it fails
[23:28] <induz> the USB stick works well i MS windows
[23:29] <induz> how is this command :dd if=[image file name] of=/dev/fd0
[23:29] <MKDrag0n> i've a laptop with a nvidia geforce GO 7300, and after installing ubuntu, unity couldn work because there was no 3D.
[23:30] <phrostbite> I am using my tv for a monitor and in the top left it says mirror screens. How do I remove that?
[23:30] <astraljava> induz: Please, please be more specific. What are you trying to do, what did you do that now fails, and if you're using the stick under Windows properly, it cannot have been made as a proper installation/live USB stick.
[23:30] <MKDrag0n> Now, i've installed the proprietary nvidia driver and eventhough i have OPENGL working unity still doesnt work. any ideas?
[23:30] <MKDrag0n> thanks
[23:30] <astraljava> MKDrag0n: Did you try Additional Drivers, and see whether you have enabled the nVidia ones?
[23:31] <induz> astraljava, I tried to install an .iso linux on USB via UNEBootin but after instalation  nothing happens
[23:31] <astraljava> MKDrag0n: Sorry, I was too hasty.
[23:31] <MKDrag0n> astraljava: yes
[23:31] <induz> astraljava, the USB then was made bootbale with DISKPart in MSwwindow
[23:32] <magpii> astraljava: ok, finally. here is the link for the code I get when i try reapplying updates for avidemux http://codepad.org/ggWAhBmZ
[23:32] <astraljava> induz: Sounds like your system doesn't know it's supposed to boot from the USB stick, then. Try to look into the BIOS settings.
[23:32] <MKDrag0n> astraljava: it says the driver is activated but not currently in use
[23:32] <Dezine> Is there anyway to have the volume drop down show the application volume sliders? Like when you go to sound preferences?
[23:32] <vaev> to answer my own question, yes, mouse events like wheel scroll seem to propagate through the terminal to, say, ncurses and can be listened by the "active" program. now to figure out how to modify the behaviour..
[23:32] <phrostbite> I am using my tv for a monitor and in the top left it says mirror screens. How do I remove that?
[23:32] <MKDrag0n> astraljava: eventhough i can play OPENGL games with it.
[23:32] <astraljava> induz: It doesn't need to be touched by anything else after the UNETbootin (or however it is spelt)
[23:33] <magpii> astraljava: for some reason, that error is for iboffice lol
[23:33] <dabear> hi.
[23:33] <magpii> astraljava: lib*
[23:33] <dabear> I need to find out when the first version of gdebi was created
[23:33] <dabear> any idea how I do that?
[23:34] <induz> astraljava, I installed UNETBootin in my Ubuntu, then I am trying to install Mint on a USB stick
[23:35] <StevenR> zroysch: sounds like the 5V or 12V line isn't what it should be, or it can't supply the power you need
[23:35] <Janine> ldr: hello, please PM me
[23:36] <astraljava> magpii: That's got nothing to do with running avidemux. That's package management.
[23:37] <astraljava> induz: Okay, what's the Windows got to do with this? You're really making my head spin now.
[23:37] <astraljava> dabear: Look into gdebi's changelogs?
[23:38] <dabear> yep
[23:38] <induz> astraljava, ok here is my Q: I have installed UNEBootin in my Ubuntu...how can I make a live Bootable USB
[23:38] <induz> with Mint
[23:38] <dabear> seems 0.1 was released in dec 2005
[23:38] <magpii> astraljava: ok, i am completly removing avidemux and will send the link again with the errors shortly
[23:39] <induz> or any other small linux/ubuntu at my 1 gb USB
[23:39] <coz_> induz,   did austrumi not work for you?
[23:40] <astraljava> induz: Okay. You need to start the application, then specify the device on which you want the image to be installed, and of course the image that _is_ to be installed.
[23:40] <induz> hey coz
[23:40] <induz> I am stuill struglling with austrumi
[23:40] <coz_> induz,  well I cant do much support for austrumi in this channel let me see if there is a channel for it
[23:40] <induz> coz_, i have downlaode UNTBootin and .iso of austrumi
[23:41] <astraljava> induz: Ubuntu will fit on that space, as it's only around 700MB
[23:41] <induz> how can i make this USB a bootbale for linux
[23:41] <coz_> induz,  unetbootin will make it bootable
[23:41] <magpii> astraljava: ok, i uninstalled avidemux and just tried re installing and got this message http://codepad.org/D1OvGaMy
[23:41] <coz_> induz,  this is entirely dependent on your system being able to boot from usb however
[23:42] <magpii> astraljava: when I tried installing the other packages it brings up another error saying that other packages will NOT be installed
[23:42] <astraljava> magpii: Could you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list, please?
[23:42] <Janine> ldr: please pm me
[23:43] <induz> coz_, the system boots from a USB stick
[23:43] <coz_> induz,  ok as long as you know that for sure it should work,,
[23:43] <astraljava> Janine: [s]he is online, so should see your hilighting already. Please be patient.
[23:43] <Bsims> My most recent apt-get update wants to remove kdebase... WHY?
[23:44] <coz_> induz,  but as already mentioned, ubuntu should also work from that
[23:44] <astraljava> Bsims: apt-get update won't do that. What other command(s) are you trying to run?
[23:44] <induz> coz_, what this command is for :C:\>RAWRITE [image file name] [destination drive letter]:
[23:44] <coz_> induz,   where are you seeing that?
[23:44] <Bsims> astraljava: well its apt-get dist-update to get the ones held back
[23:44] <induz> on Linux forum
[23:44] <astraljava> induz: That's a Windows command, you won't need that when you can be using UNETbootin
[23:44] <tensorpudding> RAWRITE probably writes a file directly to disk
[23:45] <magpii> astraljava: ok, heres the apt sources list http://codepad.org/YeAIIiHH
[23:45] <induz> live 10.4 Ubuntu can hold in 1 gb USB
[23:45] <tensorpudding> it works in a way analogous to dd
[23:45] <coz_> induz,     http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/screenshots/Screenshot-UNetbootin.png
[23:46] <coz_> induz,  that is what unetbootin looks like at first start
[23:46] <induz> coz_, yes
[23:46] <coz_> induz,  all you need to do is first plugin the flash driver,, then open unetbootin
[23:46] <Bsims> astraljava: I'm assuming something like a slow to update mirror?
[23:46] <astraljava> Bsims: Can you pastebin `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`, please?
[23:46] <coz_> induz,   then,, where it says  "ISO"  to the right is a button with "..."  3 dots on it to locate the iso image
[23:47] <Bsims> !pastebin
[23:47] <astraljava> Bsims: Hard to tell without seeing the specifics.
[23:47] <coz_> induz,  below the usb drive is already  listed for use
[23:47] <induz> I selected diskImage and browse to my .iso file for austurumi and it installs something on the USB but when i try to boot the system nothing comes on
[23:47] <coz_> induz,  are you sure the system is set to boot from usb drive and not hard drive
[23:47] <coz_> induz,  the usb boot option has to be the first boot device in the bios
[23:48] <induz> coz_, yes
[23:48] <induz> how can i paste a picture/shot here
[23:48] <coz_> induz,   one thing could be a corrupted  iso image,, you may want to redownload whichever image it is,, if it is ubuntu,, then check the md5sum "before"  writing it onto the flash drive with unetbootin
[23:49] <cliffton> hey i downloaded some software from the software center (emulators) but i cant find them
[23:49] <coz_> induz,   go to picpaste.com
[23:49] <induz> <img src="http://i.imgur.com/GsgHA.png" alt="" title="Hosted by imgur.com" />
[23:49] <fowl> can someone help me with gnome2? I keep having to run metacity --replace because gnomes starting without a window manager
[23:49] <coz_> cliffton,  look under either applications / accessories... or  perhaps  Apllications/ games
[23:49] <astraljava> magpii: That can't be right. Please do `sudo apt-get install pastebinit;cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit`
[23:49] <induz> coz_, here http://i.imgur.com/GsgHA.png
[23:49] <coz_> fowl,  which version of ubuntu?
[23:49] <fowl> can someone help me with gnome2? I keep having to run metacity --replace because gnomes starting without a window manager, i tried fixing in gconf but it doesnt care, it always resets to gnome-wm
[23:50] <fowl> coz_: 11.04
[23:50] <lixxus> does switchable graphics work on ubuntu?
[23:50] <coz_> induz,  looks like the "destination" there is set for /tmp
[23:50] <coz_> fowl,  so you are on the classic view...yes?
[23:51] <coz_> fowl,  rather classic session ...yes?
[23:51] <fowl> yeah, no unity or gnome shell dont need that noise
[23:51] <coz_> fowl,  ok
[23:51] <astraljava> lixxus: I'd assume it defaults to the integrated driver. I at least had to go to BIOS and turn on discrete to get to the additional graphics card.
[23:51] <Bsims> astraljava: http://paste.ubuntu.com/657553/
[23:51] <coz_> fowl,  which video card  ? open a terminal    lspci | grep -i vga
[23:51] <magpii> astraljava: ok, pastebinit is installed, what next?
[23:51] <Bsims> the text at the bottom is my screen info
[23:51] <fowl> coz_: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GF106 [GeForce GTX 460M] (rev a1)
[23:52] <coz_> fowl,  ok and you already installed the nvidia driver and did a full reboot ..yes?
[23:52] <induz> coz_, what should i do after UnetBootin downlaod the .iso
[23:52] <fowl> coz_: yeah, the video card drivers are good
[23:52] <lixxus> i see
[23:52] <lixxus> but hp bios does not give that option of switching
[23:52] <coz_> induz,   well I am surprised it is even "downloading" anything,, it should just read it from the  Desktop if that is wher eyou downloaded it to
[23:52] <fowl> i think some setting is off since i uninstalled compiz
[23:52] <induz> how can i find /tmp folder in my system
[23:52] <coz_> fowl,  ok
[23:53] <fowl> induz: cd /tmp
[23:53] <coz_> induz,  what happens when that finises?
[23:53] <coz_> finishes
[23:53] <induz> coz nothis it asks me reboot
[23:53] <coz_> fowl,  oh!! you uninstalled compiz?
[23:53] <coz_> fowl,  why?
[23:53] <fowl> i dont want it
[23:53] <fowl> makes the screen blink
[23:53] <fowl> like once every couple of minutes
[23:53] <coz_> fowl,  I understand but it is a very small footprint = size  of application
[23:53] <induz> coz_, how can find where is my downlaod in /tmp folder
[23:54] <coz_> induz,    in terminal    cd /tmp
[23:54] <astraljava> Bsims: Did you enable recently new repositories? There's like tons of PPAs, and also backports. It's very likely that there's a dependency issue, and something causes kdebase to be obsoleted.
[23:54] <fowl> coz_: i took it out because i couldnt figure out how to make gnome NOT start with compiz as the window manager
[23:54] <coz_> induz,  or in terminal  gksudo nautilus  then maneauver to the tmp directory
[23:54] <astraljava> magpii: Did you check the whole command I gave you?
[23:54] <Bsims> astraljava: I'll disable them first and try it again but, nothing that I know of thats really new
[23:54] <coz_> fowl,  oh t hat's easy actually,, in 11.04  you also have classic ( no effects)  session where compiz doesnt startr
[23:54] <coz_> start
[23:55] <astraljava> Bsims: Okay, so then something that appeared in one of those causes the issue.
[23:55] <magpii> astraljava: i just copied and pasted the entir sudo apt get etc etc you posted in terminal and it installed it
[23:55] <coz_> fowl,   which compiz packages did you remove?
[23:55] <somethinginteres> hi everyone I'm in desperate need of help. I am trying to write my disertation on my new Toshiba NB550D netbook and Ubuntu seems to be running -very- slowly. Always trying to load something from the Hard Drive, at least the light is active. I'm running 11.04 x64 with the latest Ubuntu kernel
[23:56] <astraljava> Bsims: You could ask on #kubuntu, whether they have any idea of a recent change that would do that.
[23:56] <fowl> coz_: just "compiz"
[23:56] <faint545> is there a way i can give a disk a device name in FSTAB? for example i want a disk by the UUID of xxxx to have the device name /dev/sda1
[23:56] <coz_> induz,   also   you can open in terminal   gksudo nautiulus... then when that opens maneuver to the tmp directory,, however  I am not sure what it is doing in there
[23:56] <induz> coz_, http://i.imgur.com/QwLtY.png
[23:56] <astraljava> magpii: Okay, so did you see a link as the final result of running that command?
[23:56] <fowl> and i'd like to get rid of the extra gnome sessions i dont use in the session menu do you know where they are on disk?
[23:57] <coz_> induz,  are you pluggin in the usb flash driver  "before" opening unetbootin?
[23:57] <induz> coz_, yes
[23:57] <coz_> fowl,  so log off,, and change the session to   classic  ( no effects)   see if that fixes the issue
[23:58] <magpii> astraljava: sorry, was being a noob. here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/657557/
[23:58] <astraljava> faint545: Yes, the old naming style should still work.
[23:58] <astraljava> magpii: No problem, I should have been clearer about it.
[23:58] <fowl> ok ill give it a shot
[23:58] <coz_> induz,  that I have never had unetbootin do that  ,, are you sure your usb flash driver is plugged in before opening unetbootin and are you sure it is being recognized?
[23:59] <Bsims> astraljava: no one is there, though its interesting I went from 200 packages to upgrade to 29 by disabling all repos
[23:59] <magpii> astraljava: its cool, i have learned another ubuntu trick now lol
[23:59] <induz> coz_, yes
[23:59] <coz_> induz, .. this is odd then,, the only reason I could imagine unetbootin writing to /tmp is because it was not directed to write to the usb flash drive
[23:59] <Bsims> astraljava: LOL I miss the old days when it was all in one file called sources.list and was in plain text in one spot. (Insert Get Offa My Lawn, Here.)