[04:40] kudus [04:43] any one knows how to cook some meth? [04:45] That's not the channel for this type of query. [04:46] Now, if you wanted to get JACK set up, I'm your gal, but I don't deal with amateur chemistry. [04:46] dont you mean *This is* [04:46] Heh. [04:46] Close enough, I think [04:47] whats is jack? [04:47] i just use rebirth [04:48] you know anymore like it? [04:48] JACK (allcaps) is a sound server, sends sound from one program to another. [04:49] Designed for high performance/low latency. [04:49] Not like pulseaudio or anything like /that/. This is the real thing. [04:49] so you do music? [04:51] Yeah [04:51] can i install jck on my sys puter and listen to what she is doing? [04:51] This is an ubuntu+music place [04:51] Uh [04:51] You'd need to hook up to a streaming server for that [04:51] My computer's not good enough to do that right now anyway. Maybe after I get back to a full-size desktop. [04:52] im using Opera [04:52] http://unite.opera.com/applications/ [04:54] http://unite.opera.com/application/322/ [05:02] hey u there m8? [05:04] do you wanna ear so random sonds ive made? [05:05] orngjce223: ? [05:05] omg he got bored [05:06] No, I'm reading. Long-form. [05:07] I like e-books, a hundred pages at a time or so. [05:08] joker [05:13] harry potter? [05:13] lol [05:14] have you read the latest [05:17] so do you wnat to listen to my music? [05:20] what are you doing here really? [05:33] there no other living soul in here [05:36] and they sai they have 1 million on ubuntu :P [05:36] 1 million clones [05:36] roflol [05:43] who are you? [05:43] Heh. You should talk to #ubuntu, there are more people there [05:43] another clone [05:43] but http://orngjce223.net/ [05:44] what is that ? [05:45] you gona get my ip and hack me? [05:48] Heh [05:48] Just my usual. My hosting is a friend of a friend, I have to ask if I want the logs. [05:50] so you the dude that makes them NFO viewers music? [05:51] No, I just do music because I have music in my head. [05:51] I'm autistic, it's kind of a thing. [05:51] sure [05:51] whatever [05:52] i myself am a police officer [05:54] i really hate this on line open society ... if people dont have to pay for stuff then there would be no robbers and i would be out of a job [05:55] im gald only loony like you release free stuff [05:55] heh. [05:56] im sure theres some law against it or there isnt there should be one [05:59] That's the beauty of it, though, isn't it? Read the GPL sometime. It twists your beautifully designed copyright law into a way that we can keep our culture free even with people like you around. [06:01] not in my country you dont [06:01] Where do you live? [06:02] some place you actually have to sell your music to live [06:02] See, that's what I don't get. [06:02] The dayjob/side hobby pattern is traditional. You don't have to sell your music to live, in fact you really shouldn't. [06:03] If you listen to pop these days? It sounds like cutting off your ears and putting them in a blender with a guitar and a drum. [06:03] what you are doing is taking out my competitive edge [06:03] Because apparently a certain ratio of pureed ears to guitar bits to drum skin makes music that sells, and there are "artists" chasing after that holy grail but I can't listen to it so I do my own. [06:05] My point is, making no money has no bearing on it. If you're that much of a musician it'll come out anyway. Maybe less well-produced, maybe you have to save up for guitar strings, but if it's good, you put it up and people will listen. [06:05] you should change to windows the music apps there sound much better [06:05] that whatever you are using [06:06] Here, I admit it: I don't much care for using Windows. It's a silly grudge, and not even useful, but I like using Linux because I /want/ to tinker with things and nudge command lines and get things working the way I want them exactly. [06:06] lol [06:07] I would rather use an incomplete DAW with no working undo button and only two export settings, knowing full well that I can just holler to the developers and they know who I am and that we're all working to make it available to more people. [06:07] undo button? [06:07] LMMS. [06:07] Look it up if you care. [06:08] It works, though, and I've been mistaken for someone with hundreds of dollars to throw at DAWs. [06:08] DAWs? [06:08] Digital audio workstations. [06:08] Music making programs, in essence. [06:09] the one i use is free [06:09] But the reason I use it is because I have music in my head, and I give it to other people that like listening to it. [06:10] If there is a true artist writing the music, it will show. If not, well, I don't miss people who aren't in it for the art. [06:10] http://www.rebirthmuseum.com/ [06:10] you sound like prick [06:11] i guess its part of your job discriptions [06:12] No, I want to make the world better. [06:12] theres even a version for the iphone but that one isnt free [06:14] TB303? There's a plugin for that, I tried using it but I prefer other sounds anyway. [06:15] http://office.0prime.operaunite.com/stream/# try this [06:16] is it working? [06:16] is it working? [06:16] is it working? [06:17] is it working? [06:17] I see it. [06:17] It's a streamripper program. [06:18] And its output, by the looks of it. [06:18] you dont make sence [06:19] On the contrary, I'm making perfect sense to /myself/. Please try to understand what I am saying. [06:20] is it working? [06:20] What I see, is someone who is taking down music that they could easily have bought on Amazon for ninety-nine cents with no DRM, or else email the artist and make an arrangement for the same, etc. [06:20] I'm listening to something else right now. [06:21] you are full of craapo [06:21] what amazon ? [06:21] what drm? [06:21] this is my musics you twat [06:21] Ah, okay. [06:22] I was going by README.TXT, you should probably take that down to avoid giving the wrong impression. [06:23] are you listning to any? [06:23] I'm listening to the new queue I was sent the other day, actually. [06:23] http://homestuckgaiden.bandcamp.com/ [06:24] ok dont listen to my music [06:25] fiji is the latest [06:26] Mm. [06:26] So [06:26] What point are you trying to make? [06:27] did you listen to any ? [06:27] I told you earlier, I am listening to something else. [06:27] It will not finish for at least another hour, judging by the timestamps. [06:28] lol [06:29] Excuse me, but what is your point trying to talk to me about this? [06:30] http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/710029/autistic-boy-labeled-cheater-by-microsoft-has-gamerscore-deleted/?page=3 [06:30] Your initial point was that of, apparently free culture is nonsense because then nobody will own anything and policemen will go out of business. [06:30] was that you? [06:30] No, actually. [06:30] Are you googling for "autism" in the news pile? I haven't shown up on any, I'll tell you that. [06:31] why wont you listen to my songs? [06:33] I am listening to someone else's, people that I know, remixing themes that I like. [06:33] You are in the queue, but that will wait for tomorrow. [06:34] but we are talking now [06:34] stupid people [06:34] Mintal: rebirth is not open source [06:35] i think that is the point orngjce223 is trying to make [06:35] so what? [06:35] Just because it is free /now/ doesn't mean that it will stay that way. [06:35] it will [06:35] ive downloaded it [06:36] Mintal: thats all really [06:36] Suppose it doesn't run on Windows 10; who will patch it then? Without source code, it would be easier to rewrite it from scratch. [06:36] so it free for me for ever [06:36] its just not open source [06:36] when the source is open, we are free to do with it as we please [06:36] like ruinin it [06:36] if you liked all but one little feature, you could add that feature [06:36] sure, you can ruin it too if you want Mintal [06:37] Mintal: you dont use ubuntustudio? [06:37] no [06:37] are you here for more information about it? [06:37] i use windows [06:37] sure [06:37] thats fine [06:37] because its faster that linux [06:37] im just trying to figure out what brings you to the channel? [06:38] Mintal: you probably could configure windows to be fast if you want [06:38] my only problem with it peronally is security [06:38] but, if windows works for you... go for it [06:38] what security? [06:38] so, what brings you do the channel Mintal ? [06:38] like linux has security [06:39] Mintal: the user account setups [06:39] and the security risks in running windows [06:39] just like in wiondows? [06:39] windows out of the box is a security risk the way its configured [06:39] too bad really [06:39] odcourse [06:39] not a big deal as long as you know how to administer it [06:39] or you dont get online with it [06:40] so you have broken into my computer already? [06:40] the way the users accounts are setup with unix's really helps knock a lot of that down [06:40] Mintal: ?? [06:40] im not trying to hack you or anyone else [06:40] Mintal: what brings you to the channel? [06:40] so how can you say its not secure? [06:41] Mintal: i didnt [06:41] im stating facts about the configuration [06:41] again, if it works for you, thats great [06:41] sure [06:41] does it work for me? [06:41] the facts are... in windows typically the normal user is an administor account [06:41] security wise that is [06:41] thats a fact, and works well for some things, but not security online [06:42] but, thats not what this channel is about [06:42] its not about bashing windows [06:42] its not about windows at all really [06:42] Mintal: what brings you to our channel? [06:43] to show the musics [06:43] to check if its working [06:44] if whats working? [06:44] are you listning? [06:44] that opera link? [06:44] didnt work for me [06:44] link it again... [06:44] http://office.0prime.operaunite.com/stream/# try this [06:44] hey dont ripoff my musics [06:45] try fiji [06:45] its great [06:45] are you listning allready? [06:45] yeah it works [06:46] flash isnt rendering all that great for me in chromium [06:46] so.. [06:46] flash? [06:46] im talking about the musics [06:46] your interface is in flash [06:47] are you listening?? [06:47] what do you think? [06:47] sure [06:47] what do you think? [06:48] well, im an acoustic guy really, so i dont take in much electronic stuff [06:48] i think its a good start [06:48] thanks [06:48] ive made one with guitar too [06:48] but its not in there [06:49] what else are you listning to? [06:51] i listened to a bit of digi [06:51] but im not on it anymore [06:51] i meant fiji [06:51] have you riped my songs of? [06:52] riped? [06:52] you mean stole? [06:52] no [06:52] have you save them to your computer?= [06:52] nope [06:52] you need that tested? [06:52] no [06:53] you could [06:53] i dont need to really [06:54] would rebirth work in ubuntu studio? [06:55] i have fedora but its alot slower that windowsxzp [06:55] and to think linux used to be faster that winxp [06:55] i had it working in wine [06:55] lol [06:56] depends on your hardware really [06:56] and what youa re doing [06:56] you used rebitrth? [06:56] are* [06:56] i used rebirth back on XP [06:56] and i got it running in WINE to test [06:56] it was easy :) [06:56] o thought its was on wine [06:57] fedora lags on my computer [06:57] and now nokia ruined KDE [06:57] new KDE sucks [06:57] and its slow [06:57] the older one was fast [06:58] well, i dont use KDE, but nokia doesnt have much to do with it [06:59] new KDE is just like the older only slowers [06:59] interesting perspective [06:59] have you actually looked at KDE4? [06:59] it looks pretty slick [06:59] i think it lags on my hardware, but thats not really what the goal is [07:00] KDE4 is about the most modern looking DE ive seen [07:00] yes kde 4.6 [07:00] doesnt work for me though [07:00] why? [07:00] doesnt fit my needs [07:00] kde 3.5 looks just has good [07:00] theres quite a bit of difference i find [07:01] i think 4.x looks more slick, but 3.x is fine too [07:01] still not for me though [07:01] why? [07:01] i dont like it [07:01] http://www.trinitydesktop.org/ That's 3.x being patched pretty much as long as they can keep developers, which should be a while. [07:02] orngjce223: ive heard about that... im wondering what'll be like that for gnome 2.x [07:02] orngjce223: you running XFCE? [07:03] Yeah [07:03] im going to soon [07:03] im still on lucid+gnome :) [07:03] http://www.trinitydesktop.org/ is down for me [07:04] The thing with XFCE is that it's on gtk2 which is tied fairly closely to gnome, so that's a long-term problem. [07:04] looks down for everyone :/ [07:04] But it will do. [07:04] Ah [07:04] maybe they ran out of steam [07:04] maybe tomorrow, [07:04] yeah [07:04] my hardwear dosnt like linux [07:04] I'm actually wondering if I should jump ship to the even less popular LXDE or something like that [07:04] but, thats the thing about open projects [07:05] if orngjce223 and I want, we can download KDE 3.x and do with it as we please... roll it into a custom distro [07:05] LXDE is good [07:05] Mintal: i always miss something in there [07:05] nice and light though [07:05] AVlinux uses LXDE [07:05] and peppermint OS [07:05] i like both of those projects [07:06] LXDE=WINXP [07:06] yeah? [07:06] theres that one WM that looks like XP or older windows [07:06] i never really thought of them being all that similar [07:08] you can get an app luncher in LXDE and have XFCE AND WINXP UIs [07:08] well, its linux [07:08] you can do what you want.... its all open [07:08] <_guitarman_> yup you can do anything [07:08] if its not there, you can build it :) [07:09] LOL [07:09] im nuts_? [07:09] nuts? [07:09] <_guitarman_> yup - you can build a spaceship os [07:09] for wanting your system to look like XP? [07:09] <_guitarman_> and rocket to the moon [07:09] sure [07:09] hey, if thats what you like, go for it [07:09] <_guitarman_> Mintal: there were distros that skinned like winxp- red flag linux was one of them [07:10] Oh, also this: http://ubuntu.online02.com/node/14 [07:10] _guitarman_: what was that WM that was very windows-y [07:10] puppy had it... [07:10] JVwm? [07:10] something like that [07:10] <_guitarman_> icewm [07:10] <_guitarman_> old skool [07:10] <_guitarman_> joes window manager [07:10] <_guitarman_> jwm [07:10] <_guitarman_> .g icewm winxp [07:10] yeah... didnt feel totally like it, but it looked similar [07:11] Well, there's always the command line. :P [07:11] no thelonius :/ [07:11] Well, there's ubottu in here but I dunno how to use him [07:12] !vanilla [07:12] To install Ubuntu Studio on top of a vanilla Ubuntu install, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation [07:12] thats about all i use him for [07:12] !AB [07:12] <_guitarman_> hehe [07:12] <_guitarman_> !help [07:12] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [07:12] !help | _guitarman_ [07:12] _guitarman_: please see above [07:12] lol [07:12] hehehe [07:12] <_guitarman_> hehe [07:12] <_guitarman_> i like that [07:13] ubottu: awesome [07:13] <_guitarman_> so you connect jack blah blah ... [07:13] i dont like the xp them i use the older versiuon like win95 [07:13] <_guitarman_> what i don't get it [07:13] Hehehehe [07:13] <_guitarman_> !help | _guitarman_ [07:13] _guitarman_, please see my private message [07:13] its faster [07:13] <_guitarman_> oh wow [07:13] you can PM the ubuntu bots and get friendly with em [07:13] <_guitarman_> yeah [07:14] i need to read up on them [07:14] they are quite helpful [07:14] <_guitarman_> thats curious [07:14] <_guitarman_> this bot is different for sure [07:14] <_guitarman_> alrighty - time to rest up - got to work tomorrow [07:14] <_guitarman_> bbl [07:14] _guitarman_: o/ [07:14] Mintal: im actually installing DOS on some boxes for a job soon [07:14] but, this is not really the channel for that [07:15] this is actually an official support channel for ubuntustudio [07:15] we relaxed the OT policy a bit to get a bit of a community going [07:15] though luck [07:16] you mean tough luck? [07:16] whats that mean? [07:16] the comunity thing [07:16] we acutally have quite a community [07:16] just not on the IRC usually [07:16] sure [07:16] the mailing list is quite active [07:17] mailing list [07:17] like anyone uses that [07:17] yeah, thats something else you could troll... i mean join [07:17] not my cake [07:18] mailing list are official [07:18] this channel is offical as well [07:18] its logged [07:18] cool [07:18] iu hate that [07:19] well... that happened... [07:22] * orngjce223 sigh [07:23] http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx180/genericAnomaly/shenanigans/missingnos.gif [07:24] what are those twitchy little fellas orngjce223 ? [07:24] missingno! [07:24] It's supposed to be a glitch Pokemon [07:25] but I'm in some hilarious roleplay shenanigans in which they're threatening to bring down a... uh... corporation that creates games that play around with the fabric of the universe. [07:25] I mean, if it was just some random dimension being corrupted, that would be fine. But we're talking programming languages that tap into the underlying structure of reality. [07:26] lol [07:26] Also, playing massively overpowered reality programmers with amazing technobabble skills doesn't get old. [07:26] over my head im afraid [07:26] Heh. [07:27] If there's one thing that hanging out with the Linux group has taught me, it's how to string together nonsense about hand-coding assembler to ensure that the processors don't get into deadlocks and cause resource contention to... etc. etc. [07:27] hehe... well, enjoy [07:27] im out for the nite [07:27] Usually they work higher-level though. You'd be surprised how much of their "games division" revolves around their Java-analogue. [07:27] Hehe [07:27] Goodnight then