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thauriswulfa HELP: Need help to install synaptics-dkms_1.1.0_all.deb in xubuntu to enable multitouch in touchpad.06:57
thauriswulfacan anybody help me enabling touchpad scrollbars?07:01
well_laid_lawnthauriswulfa: sure07:06
thauriswulfawhat should I do07:07
thauriswulfawell_laid_lawn:what should I do?07:07
well_laid_lawnin /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-synaptics07:08
well_laid_lawnadd   Option "VertEdgeScroll" "on"07:08
well_laid_lawnOption "HorizEdgeScroll" "on"07:08
well_laid_lawnit's all in   man synaptics07:08
thauriswulfabut there's no such folder in x1107:09
well_laid_lawnwhich ubuntu version are you using?07:09
thauriswulfaxubuntu 11.0407:09
well_laid_lawnit is X11 - case matters07:10
well_laid_lawncapital X07:10
ubottuYou can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.07:10
thauriswulfawell_laid_lawn: yes I am looking in X11 and there's no such folder there07:12
Sysicreate it07:13
Sysiexept that it's for HAL, not used anymore07:14
Wizardgood morning07:14
well_laid_lawnSysi: so where do the  X confs go?07:18
well_laid_lawnor is there no choice in the matter07:18
Sysihum, or I'm not sure if that was HAL config07:18
Sysiif it works..07:18
well_laid_lawnI'm not on an ubuntu box atm but here on Archlinux I get from man Xorg    /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d          Server configuration directory.07:20
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sandro_ce qualcuno che mi potrebbe dare supporto?13:30
charlie-tcasandro_: this is an english language channel. However, the Italian channel should be able to help you in your language13:33
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)13:33
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iamanenteWhat should the size of my /boot partition be in Xubuntu 11.04 x86_64?14:39
tethtibisit's very quiet. :O/15:42
Wizarddon't wake the daemons15:42
Sysimy ssh daemon is awake :S15:44
joe__I'm seeing a huge delay of 7-15 seconds on Thunar when I try to open my home directory off my desktop17:09
joe__Not quite sure how that is happening17:09
joe__On Xunbuntu 11.04 on i38617:10
joe__patched as of today17:10
charlie-tcaThat's a bug already filed17:14
charlie-tcaWe do not have a good workaround17:15
joe__Oh, ok.17:18
joe__Thought it was something I did on accident or something17:18
joe__I can deal17:18
joe__Thanks for your help17:18
Tethtibiswhat I've done is:17:19
Tethtibisactually install nautilus.17:19
Tethtibisand use that when thunar is being a pain.17:19
Tethtibissudo apt-get install nautilus17:19
Tethtibisand you can either run it from command line, or set it to a keyboard shortcut.17:20
Tethtibisor, you know... set it to the dock. :OP17:20
joe__I'm going with the CLI17:20
joe__lighest option available...17:21
Tethtibisyeah, then you can sudo it's pants off when need be. :OP17:21
joe__Cool, thanks!17:21
TethtibisGood luck. :O)17:21
joe__Otherwise, I love xubuntu and can't stand Unity!17:21
superm1charlie-tca, not sure how you got devices in the u/i in the session, i checked and i still dont have devices17:23
charlie-tcaI have them working both in live sessions, if I pick the third session in the list, and in installed oneiric. The only one not working is this desktop I upgraded at alpha117:24
charlie-tcaWhen we boot the images, if we don't choose the third session (xubuntu, xfce, xubuntu), it fails17:25
charlie-tcaI don't understand it, myself17:25
superm1is the third session the symlink to default perhaps?17:25
superm1not that it would explain it anymore17:25
charlie-tcaum, no, I think that is the first one, which fails to work right17:26
charlie-tcait seems if DESKTOP_SESSION=xubuntu , everything works.17:27
charlie-tcaif DESKTOP_SESSION=default, everything fails17:27
superm1hm, well for us DESKTOP_SESSION=mythbuntu and it fails17:27
ldrhello, i get some problems with tray icons in xfce, when i reduce the height under 20px or something the cpu load increses sometimes dramaticly and the icons begin to flicker, this bus has been described by some people in xfce forums without workaround, anyway the icons do a lot of easier weird stuff too, for example creating "illusions" of themselves beneath the bar which are mainly garbled rectangles in the size of the icon and so on. Does someone know wher18:26
ldre the problem is or at least a way to reduce the strange behaviors making the traybar height 20px+ only reduce them a littl bit18:26
Tethtibismy best guess would be that it's due to the scaleable icons used have a natural size you're trying to go lower than. have you tried a different icon set, or perhapse make your own that's smaller than 20x20?18:27
Sysiwhat if you go to notification area settings and set icon max size to be smaller18:27
Legend28469I need help18:55
Legend28469Fresh installation of xubuntu 11.0418:55
Legend28469On boot18:55
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)18:55
Legend28469Lol OK ty18:55
Legend28469Fresh xubuntu install. First boot ends up in error out of disk and grub rescue prompt18:56
Legend28469I've reinstalled 3 times btw18:57
charlie-tcasounds like "just install grub". Where did you download it from?18:58
Wizarddo you have more than one disk?18:59
Sysiwhat kind of installation, dual-boot or just xubuntu? do you have a netbook?18:59
charlie-tcaI need to know which mirror it was18:59
Legend28469I was dual booting .. then I tried singular19:07
Legend28469I have 2 hdds19:07
Legend28469Not a netbook19:08
Legend28469And it was a torrent19:08
Legend28469Should I have used a regular link instead of the torrent?19:10
Wizardno, if checksums are correct19:11
Legend28469Should I run that option that makes sure disc is ok?19:12
Wizardmaybe, but if I was altering the disk I would ensure it won't fail :P19:13
zaneHi, I am trying to remove some packages using synaptic, but every time I hit apply, an error comes up saying,"could not apply changes! Fix broken packages first." I have already tried multiple times to remove the broken packages, but every time I try an error comes up. Could someone please help me?19:14
Legend28469So any recommendations, because I really like (X)Ubuntu19:15
Wizardzane, synaptics has "fix broken packages" option19:15
WizardLegend28469, I would try to install grub manually19:15
zaneI know, I have already tried that.19:15
Wizardzane, hmm19:15
WizardI don't use synaptics at all, could you tell me what does apt-get say?19:16
Legend28469From a live CD right? Is there a link?19:16
Sysi*synaptic, synaptics is touchpad19:16
WizardLegend28469, but I was never into grub things..19:16
zaneCould you tell me the terminal command for that?19:16
WizardSysi, you're right19:16
Wizardapt-get -f install19:16
charlie-tcaWe aren't really X ubuntu, we are Xubuntu19:16
zaneKay, I'll try that right now.19:17
charlie-tca!grub | Legend2846919:17
ubottuLegend28469: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)19:17
Legend28469Charlie-tca: I meant to say I like Ubuntu and xubuntu.. depending on system specs19:18
zaneIt simply says, "E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?19:19
Wizardzane, sudo19:19
charlie-tcaLegend28469: I see. So easy to get things wrong when trying to read.19:19
zaneoh, lol19:19
zaneOkay, here's what it says now, "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"19:21
charlie-tcaand that was using sudo?19:22
charlie-tcaGive it a few minutes, and try again. Make sure synaptic Package Manager and software center and update-mamager are closed19:22
Legend28469I'm going to use a boot repair tool as a first attempt19:22
zaneOkay, I tried it again and it says, "Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree       Reading state information... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 7 not upgraded."19:24
zaneDoes that mean I should try removing the packages again?19:24
charlie-tcaNow you should be able to remove those packages, yes.19:25
zaneI got the "Could not apply changes!Fix broken packages first." Error again.19:27
charlie-tcaThen you should try in terminal using sudo apt-get remove packagename19:28
charlie-tcareplace packagename with the actual name of the package as shown in synaptic package manager19:29
charlie-tcaIt might give a better message19:29
zanehow do I know what the broken packages are?19:31
charlie-tcaIf it doesn't tell you in terminal, try sudo apt-get install -f which will force it to complet the install of the broken package19:32
Legend28469I still have the out of disk and grub rescue issue after running a boot repair tool19:34
zaneit looks like it worked...19:34
zaneI got the error in synaptic again19:37
charlie-tcafile a bug against synaptic then. It must be something wrong with it19:42
zaneWell, there is one more thing. Synaptic still says that there are 2 broken packages.19:43
charlie-tcabut terminal let you remove the packages?19:46
charlie-tcaand when you run sudo apt-get update, you don't get any errors?19:46
charlie-tcasynaptic is broken19:46
charlie-tcatry the refresh button in synaptic, see if it fixes itself19:47
charlie-tcarefresh or reload?19:47
zanethat gives me the error message of , "E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.19:49
zaneE: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.19:49
zaneE: Unable to correct dependencies19:49
zaneE: Unable to lock the list directory"19:49
charlie-tcaso, you have packages not yet upgraded19:50
zaneThanks for your help! I don't know what happened, but after restarting synaptic, it's working fine.19:57
charlie-tcaGlad you got it working19:58
Mandrewhi is there a big difference between thunar and pcmanfm in the use of resources?20:32
charlie-tcaI don't know. Never used pcmanfm20:35
charlie-tcawe don't have any comparisons for file managers, either.20:37
Mandrewi did a search on synaptic with the phrase "lightweight" and then pcmanfm came up20:37
Mandrewi think it looks rather nice with the original xubuntu theme, and one get the tab funktion too20:38
Sysipcmanfm is ment to be light, possibly it uses a bit less ram than thunar20:39
charlie-tcalooks like pcmanfm is probably smaller20:39
charlie-tcawhat about functions?20:39
charlie-tcaAre they the same?20:40
Mandrewwith just a glimpse there is more functions on pcmanfm than on thunar, but you guys probably have a really good reason on choosing thunar over pcmanfm20:40
Sysithunar is part of xfce20:40
Mandrewno it look like pcmanfm have more charlie-tca20:41
Sysilike what?20:41
Mandrewill post a dump20:41
Mandrewon pcmanfm that is on the right side there is 7 menu options and it have some more stuff under the go menu too20:43
Mandrewon thunar there is "just" 5 menu options20:43
Mandrewbut well if i press the go menu on thunar is has a lot more than pcmanfm20:44
Mandrewbut i think compeering them this way might not be fare, im just a newbie and i think im not approaching this the right way20:45
charlie-tcaI don't number of menu entries counts much.20:46
charlie-tcaI can create any menu with dozens of entries, but that doesn't really show differences in function20:46
Mandrewthats what im thinking, im not comparing it in the right way20:47
Mandrewto be honest i dont even know where to start off with the comparing to get it straight20:48
charlie-tcayes, I personally use thunar detailed view a lot20:48
charlie-tcaIt shows me file name, size, owner, group, permissions, all at a glance20:48
Mandrewwhere do you find that view?20:49
Wizardand (iirc) it can be customized \o/20:49
charlie-tcaclick view, detailed view20:49
charlie-tcaview as detailed list20:49
charlie-tcaThen go to view, configure columns and turn on the ones you want20:50
Wizardgood night all ;)20:50
Mandrewgood night Wizard20:51
charlie-tcaIt also has the ability to rename all selected files at once, select files by pattern, copy files to the same or different folders20:51
charlie-tcacreate new files or folders, and great customization20:52
SysiI like the navigation buttons in pcmanfm, but I really like thunars single click functionality20:52
charlie-tcaI don't know if pcmanfm has all of that20:52
Mandrewi have no clue20:52
Mandrewbut it sure would be interesting to get a benchmark on the file managers and a detailed list of functions, so it would be possible to compare things20:54
Mandrewwith all FMs i was thinking20:54
Mandrewit would be easier to build a lightweight system if one had that20:55
charlie-tcaYou could start the comparison page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Specifications20:57
Sysiabout five first results20:57
Mandrewso there is a page like that already lol20:58
Mandrewthat is really cool20:58
Sysiyou could collect some comparison to ubuntu wiki20:59
Mandrewwell i dont think im the right guy for it though, im just not experienced enough for putting things like that together21:00
Mandrewim a newbie with linux but en expert distro jumper ;)21:01
Mandrewdont what do mess things up and posting wrong and faulty info. it would just not be right for ppl looking for proper info21:04
c4wrcinstalling xubuntu on my livingroom pc...21:53

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