| LaserJock | ScottK: that's fine, I can file it upstream. I just wasn't sure what the proper place was so I thought I'd ask :-) | 00:00 |
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| ScottK | K | 00:00 |
| ScottK | micahg: Technically what's going on is an abuse of conflicts. That's not what it's for. | 00:01 |
| LaserJock | well, it's kind of a bummer that KDE has the ability to display the notifications from GNOME apps but then I shouldn't have ubuntu-desktop installed | 00:06 |
| micahg | ScottK: maybe a thread on debian-devel would be worthwhile? | 00:18 |
| micahg | I don't know enough about the notification daemon to say one way of the other | 00:20 |
| ScottK | micahg: Look at Debian Policy. It's pretty clear about conflicts. | 00:51 |
| claydoh | ScottK: is kdepim testing in oneiric, or is there a chance 11.10 will revert to the old version? trying to figure out the wording | 01:20 |
| claydoh | I assume it is going to be by default at this point | 01:20 |
| ScottK | It is. | 01:20 |
| claydoh | kk | 01:21 |
| ScottK | It would take a pretty massive disaster to cause a revert. | 01:21 |
| ScottK | I'm not even sure how we'd do it. | 01:21 |
| claydoh | its not too bad, overall but I expect user hiccups | 01:21 |
| * claydoh needs to test it on his old laptop to see how much akonadi slows it down :) | 01:22 | |
| claydoh | i am not seeing too many issues with upgraders in kububtuforums or kde forums, tho there are some | 01:22 |
| micahg | ScottK: I think that some consider the notification-daemon something that can only have one at a time installed which you're suggesting is wrong | 01:55 |
| micahg | I think the question is whether or not it falls into that category | 01:55 |
| ScottK | "Can only have one installed" generally means either filename conflicts or things like MTAs that sieze port25. | 01:56 |
| ScottK | If the Gnome/Ubuntu thing would only run when it's native workspace is running, problem solved. | 01:56 |
| micahg | true, but that's not the case ATM | 01:57 |
| ScottK | Alpha 3 ISOs up for testing. | 01:57 |
| ScottK | Right, but that's the bug, not the lack of conflicts. | 01:57 |
| micahg | the daemons would need to be fixed to only run in their own env unless their the only one | 01:57 |
| micahg | the second one should be they're | 01:57 |
| ScottK | I'm pretty sure the KDE one only runs in plasma. | 01:58 |
| micahg | well, the gnome one runs everywhere | 01:58 |
| ScottK | Sounds like standard Gnome is the OS, so we don't have to care about anything else. | 01:58 |
| ScottK | cf recent discussions about systemsettings. | 01:58 |
| micahg | this comes from Debian, it's not Ubuntu specific AFAIK | 01:59 |
| ScottK | If it's libnotify, then it's Gnome. | 01:59 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Are you going to the desktop summit? | 01:59 |
| claydoh | ScottK: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/OneiricOcelot/Alpha3/Kubuntu | 02:00 |
| ScottK | claydoh: Thanks. | 02:01 |
| claydoh | can add more tomorrow, but it will be later | 02:01 |
| Daskreech | micahg: You can't install multiple -desktop packages anymore ? | 02:01 |
| claydoh | I am lucky to even have a partial day off this week :( | 02:01 |
| micahg | Daskreech: not ubuntu/xubuntu at least | 02:02 |
| claydoh | feeding hungry shoppers during back-to-school sales makes christmas shopping crowds feel small | 02:02 |
| === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu: Friendly Computing | Alpha 3 candidate testing: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ | TODO: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/group/topic-oneiric-kubuntu.html | Congratulations yofel | ||
| Daskreech | micahg: on what basis? | 02:03 |
| micahg | bug 737324 | 02:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 737324 in xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Oneiric) "xubuntu-desktop conflicted with ubuntu-desktop in natty" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/737324 | 02:04 |
| * Daskreech snorts | 02:04 | |
| * micahg used to do it all the time, but there's bad interactions now unfortunately, even xubuntu+unity doesn't behave properly | 02:04 | |
| Daskreech | The language of that seems less like "We need to fix this soon" and more like " Well some user won't install two packages at the same time so no user should do so" | 02:06 |
| micahg | Daskreech: it's more like there are more important things to fix, patches welcome | 02:10 |
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| LaserJock | should notifications show up for resuming? I get both a power management and network management notifications on resume | 03:01 |
| LaserJock | I didn't think that happened before upgrading to 4.7 | 03:01 |
| ScottK | You should get those. | 03:06 |
| LaserJock | ScottK: really? that's kinda annoying | 03:18 |
| ScottK | Wait. | 03:19 |
| ScottK | Actually I think we got those before and they went away in 4.6. | 03:19 |
| ScottK | So I believe that would be a regression of some kind. | 03:19 |
| LaserJock | I see | 03:19 |
| LaserJock | they were supposed to go away in 4.6+? | 03:19 |
| * ScottK suspends to see. | 03:19 | |
| ScottK | In 4.6 I get networking system disabled and screen is being locked. | 03:21 |
| ScottK | Nothing about resume. | 03:21 |
| ScottK | So I'd call it a bug. | 03:21 |
| * ScottK wonders if afiestas can help us with that. | 03:21 | |
| LaserJock | it's seems weird to get notifications just from resuming | 03:22 |
| ScottK | KDE's notifications can be 'a bit verbose'. | 03:24 |
| LaserJock | I do want notifications of a network disconnecting, but it seems a bit obvious when resuming | 03:25 |
| LaserJock | even more so with screen locking | 03:25 |
| ScottK | I find the icon with the x enough notification the network is dead, but everyone no doubt has their own view. | 03:26 |
| LaserJock | right | 03:26 |
| LaserJock | there are good icons | 03:26 |
| LaserJock | seems a bit much to have notifications | 03:26 |
| ScottK | I think those are controllable. | 03:26 |
| LaserJock | I can turn off the whole app | 03:27 |
| ScottK | If you find there's a setting for that, we can change the default. | 03:27 |
| LaserJock | *notifications for | 03:27 |
| LaserJock | "Network management disabled" is the only action that is applied in Network Management | 03:28 |
| LaserJock | *action that has notifications | 03:28 |
| LaserJock | the description says "The network management subsystem was stopped or restarted" | 03:30 |
| LaserJock | that seems like something that you wouldn't necessary want a popup for | 03:30 |
| ScottK | Yep | 03:59 |
| ScottK | If you can diff ~/.kde/share/config/networkmanagementrc with it enabled and disabled, we can eliminate it from the default. | 04:02 |
| eMyller | damn i wish i could help on the kubuntu web stuff @ todo | 05:04 |
| eMyller | i'm a web developer with time issues. :( | 05:05 |
| LaserJock | ScottK: bug #820183 | 05:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 820183 in kubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "network management notifications should be off by default" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/820183 | 05:17 |
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| bambee | morning | 07:45 |
| debfx | micahg: how is the gnome notification-daemon started? dbus activation? | 08:04 |
| jussi | is there 4.7 for natty yet? | 08:23 |
| ulysses | in the backports ppa it is | 08:24 |
| felimwhiteley | Any of you folks getting weird taskbar issues? I'm getting 2 rows even when setting it to force 1, also the taskbar only has 4 apps on it so shouldn't be triggeringanyway, plus it's putting on app on far right another one space to right as if there was a phantom other one on the bar.. I'll screenshot it | 08:25 |
| jussi | ulysses: thank you | 08:35 |
| jussi | (I am upgrading now) | 08:35 |
| ejat | jussi :) | 08:35 |
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| markey_nokialyze | re | 08:58 |
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| Quintasan | !info libalure1 | 09:41 |
| ubottu | libalure1 (source: alure): AL Utilities REtooled (shared library). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-2 (natty), package size 21 kB, installed size 96 kB | 09:41 |
| Quintasan | !info libalure1 oneiric | 09:41 |
| ubottu | libalure1 (source: alure): AL Utilities REtooled (shared library). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1-3 (oneiric), package size 48 kB, installed size 172 kB | 09:41 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Can I have a sync from Debian? ^ | 09:41 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: yes | 09:49 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: also I propose that I try to get a mobile meeting from/while DS | 09:50 |
| apachelogger | otherwise I'll just slap the people with my wisdom until they fall over or something | 09:50 |
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| mgraesslin | apachelogger: ping? | 11:21 |
| apachelogger | mgraesslin: pong | 11:50 |
| mgraesslin | apachelogger: hey, I have an audio setup problem with phonon :-) | 11:51 |
| mgraesslin | I have wonderful audio in vlc, but with phonon-vlc there is nothing | 11:52 |
| mgraesslin | any ideas? | 11:52 |
| apachelogger | nothing? :O | 11:54 |
| apachelogger | mgraesslin: Does the progress slider move? | 11:54 |
| apachelogger | mgraesslin: Also, do you use pulse? | 11:54 |
| mgraesslin | I click on the test button and there is just no audio | 11:55 |
| mgraesslin | and no I do not use pulse (at least I hope so) | 11:55 |
| apachelogger | Oh never mind the test button. | 11:55 |
| apachelogger | Also you should use PA :P | 11:56 |
| apachelogger | Particularly with phonon vlc. | 11:56 |
| mgraesslin | no PA is for me no option | 11:56 |
| mgraesslin | I use SPDIF output | 11:56 |
| apachelogger | maelcum fixed some ALSA only stuff only yesterday. | 11:56 |
| apachelogger | The device enum stuff is epic fail. | 11:56 |
| mgraesslin | is there any way that phonon-vlc just uses the settings from vlc? | 11:57 |
| apachelogger | Nope. | 11:58 |
| apachelogger | Well, not WRT audio device selection anyway. | 11:58 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: File a sync bug. I can't do those directly. | 12:03 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Can you talk to Plasma people about the problem of plasma-netbook not getting started until after applications started from a saved session? | 12:04 |
| ScottK | That's the cause of the notifications problem Laserjock was having and many other ills. | 12:04 |
| ScottK | We could really use some ISO testing. | 12:12 |
| yofel | I'll do some in a bit | 12:15 |
| ScottK | Great. | 12:15 |
| ScottK | Tm_T: Are you up for some powerpc ISO testing? | 12:32 |
| debfx | ScottK: do you know if we can avoid pulling xterm onto the cd? | 12:36 |
| ScottK | Should be able to. | 12:36 |
| debfx | I think the problem is that xorg depends on xterm | x-terminal-emulator and is seeded in desktop-common | 12:36 |
| ScottK | xterm is seeded or xorg? | 12:37 |
| debfx | xorg | 12:37 |
| ScottK | Sounds like a germinate issue we should discuss with cjwatson as IIRC konsole provides x-terminal-emulator. | 12:37 |
| yofel | it does | 12:41 |
| debfx | ok | 12:42 |
| ScottK | debfx: Will you do this? | 12:43 |
| debfx | yep | 12:51 |
| mgraesslin | apachelogger: just for the record: audio working with phonon-gstreamer | 12:53 |
| jussi | oh wow, I love you kde 4.7! | 12:56 |
| jussi | Sput: my quassel now gets backlog in like 3 seconds, instead of about 90... | 12:56 |
| davmor2 | jussi: put kde 4.7 down you don't know where it's been | 12:56 |
| Sput | jussi: what did you change? | 12:56 |
| jussi | davmor2: but, but, she's beautiful! | 12:56 |
| jussi | Sput: installed kde 4.7 from backports ppa... | 12:57 |
| Sput | KDE should not have any influence on quassel's performance | 12:57 |
| Sput | did you upgrade postgres by chance? | 12:57 |
| jussi | Sput: err, I havent changed anything on the server (to my knowledge) | 12:58 |
| jussi | tsimpson: also admins that server | 12:58 |
| Sput | interesting :) | 12:58 |
| jussi | Sput: could it be an updated Qt thing? | 12:58 |
| Sput | I wouldn't think so | 12:58 |
| Sput | usually backlog fetch is limited by the database | 12:59 |
| Sput | but who knows what was broken | 12:59 |
| jussi | Sput: yeah, it just always had this big delay before it started | 12:59 |
| jussi | getting it was always quick, once it started | 12:59 |
| apachelogger | mgraesslin: yes, talk to maelcum, he fixed something in phonon vlc yesterday... git master I think | 13:36 |
| Quintasan | now I has 8GB memory | 13:48 |
| yofel | Quintasan: yay, now add this to your fstab ;) | 13:57 |
| yofel | tmpfs /var/cache/pbuilder/build tmpfs rw,size=7G 0 0 | 13:57 |
| ScottK | Sigh. | 13:59 |
| ScottK | Kmail is total fail so far. | 13:59 |
| Tm_T | ScottK: ppc-iso? yes | 13:59 |
| ScottK | steveire: We have a bunch of akonadi crash bugs in Launchpad that it would be really helpful if we could get an upstream person to look at and see what's worth forwarding to bugs.kde.org. | 14:00 |
| ScottK | Tm_T: yes. | 14:00 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Can you teach akonadi that it should talk to dr. konqi instead of apport when it crashes? | 14:00 |
| ScottK | OK. Kmail2 is officially too hard for me. | 14:22 |
| ScottK | Kmail is one of the reasons I started using KDE ... | 14:23 |
| * ScottK installs claws-mail. | 14:23 | |
| ScottK | Bam. Configured and working. | 14:29 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: VERY difficult | 14:32 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: OK. Then we need a minion to review bugs and forward them. | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | the only reason drkonqi works for kapps is because it is tightly integrated into kapplication | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | it is not like you go oh, crash, lets start drkonqi :S | 14:33 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: bug minions we need anyway | 14:33 |
| ScottK | There's a large stack of untriaged crash bugs sitting there waiting. | 14:33 |
| apachelogger | I was kinda thinking the dark winged duck was saying that he would look for people... | 14:33 |
| ScottK | Convenient for him he's not around. | 14:33 |
| ScottK | Maybe valorie knows someone? | 14:34 |
| * yofel is still trying to figure out how to set the trash folder of his IMAP acc. as trash for that account | 14:34 | |
| yofel | akonadi doesn't seem to like me | 14:34 |
| ScottK | I can even get kmail2 configured. | 14:34 |
| ScottK | It complains it can't reach akonadi and dies. | 14:34 |
| yofel | never happened here | 14:35 |
| ScottK | (which I can confirm is actually running) | 14:35 |
| ScottK | It's downloaded my mail and just wants some GUI to talk to. | 14:35 |
| ScottK | Getting claws-mail working took about a minute. | 14:36 |
| yofel | anyone an idea why digikam can't use the geolocation plugin in oneiric btw.? | 14:39 |
| yofel | it just says "Geolocation using Marble not available" | 14:39 |
| ScottK | Dif we build marble against the right libs for that? | 14:40 |
| ScottK | Dif/Did | 14:40 |
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| ScottK | maco: I was able to do a Kubuntu live install. \o/ | 15:17 |
| maco | yay! | 15:17 |
| maco | so when i get back from pennsic i can start working on the accessibility part, now that the cd isnt crashing | 15:17 |
| maco | (no way am i getting any ubuntu stuff done between now and feature freeze. i'm leavng for the 16th century on saturday) | 15:18 |
| Quintasan | Ahahahahahah! | 15:22 |
| Quintasan | yofel: Now I can buildz Qt in tmpfs too | 15:23 |
| yofel | :D | 15:23 |
| * yofel does some DVD iso testing | 15:24 | |
| Quintasan | ScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/820441 | 15:25 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 820441 in Ubuntu "Sync libalure1 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New] | 15:25 |
| yofel | can't you sync that yourself? | 15:25 |
| yofel | *sigh* - akonadi_nepomuk_email_feeder is using ~900MB RAM again... | 15:27 |
| Quintasan | yofel: Can I? | 15:27 |
| yofel | Quintasan: from what I see libalure1 is in universe | 15:27 |
| * Quintasan noticed there is no clear outline on what one can do with -dev | 15:27 | |
| Quintasan | OR I failed to find one | 15:27 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: Did you test build the new version? | 15:28 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: I did for one-eye-rick | 15:28 |
| ScottK | It would be useful to mention that in the bug | 15:28 |
| Quintasan | Sir, yes sir! | 15:29 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Can I actually sync that myself or I need some other magic to do that? | 15:31 |
| ScottK | Do we have a sync button now? | 15:31 |
| Quintasan | *shrug* | 15:32 |
| * Quintasan looks | 15:32 | |
| ScottK | Quintasan: Check and make sure sludge still builds with the new alure. | 15:32 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: It does | 15:58 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: OK. Then since it's in Universe, you can approve the bug and subscribe ubuntu-archive. | 15:59 |
| ScottK | (make it confirmed) | 15:59 |
| ScottK | In the future, requestsync is really handy for such things. | 16:00 |
| _Groo_ | auehauehuahe apachelogger you are the man! :D | 16:54 |
| _Groo_ | see http://paste.ubuntu.com/658043/ | 16:55 |
| _Groo_ | i looooove errors :D | 16:55 |
| jussi | o/ all. | 16:58 |
| jussi | Just found an error with the 4.7 upgrade packaging | 16:59 |
| jussi | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/amarok_2%3a2.4.1-1ubuntu1~natty1~ppa2_i386.deb (--unpack): | 16:59 |
| jussi | trying to overwrite '/usr/share/kde4/apps/kconf_update/amarok.upd', which is also in package amarok-common 2:2.4.0.90-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa2 | 16:59 |
| ScottK | jussi: amarok is not part of 4.7.0 | 16:59 |
| jussi | ScottK: hrm... | 17:00 |
| jussi | its in the backports ppa though? | 17:00 |
| ScottK | Yes, just not 4.7.0 | 17:00 |
| jussi | oh | 17:00 |
| jussi | well the upgrade had an issue there, I assume people want to see that error. | 17:00 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 17:01 |
| ScottK | I guess debfx should fix his pacakge. | 17:02 |
| micahg | debfx: I don't really know how the gnome notification-daemon works | 17:08 |
| * debfx blames that maverick beta backport | 17:08 | |
| debfx | micahg: I guess the ubuntu and xubuntu notification-daemons both use dbus activation and therefore have to conflict | 17:09 |
| micahg | debfx: ah, does plasma not do that? | 17:10 |
| debfx | nope, basically it autostarts its notification daemon | 17:10 |
| micahg | ah, I guess it doesn't need to conflict then | 17:19 |
| micahg | but should probably provide it at least | 17:20 |
| ScottK | IIRC it does | 17:23 |
| yofel | apachelogger: got an ETA when http://wm161.net/2011/08/01/mind-the-gap/ will end up in a phonon-gst release? | 17:28 |
| * yofel gives bambee a hug in the meanwhile :) | 17:30 | |
| ScottK | Speaking of which ... | 17:31 |
| ScottK | bambee: We should schedule a Kubuntu Council meeting to review your Kubuntu membership application. Did you finish it yet? | 17:32 |
| bambee | ScottK: it's finish, it's on the wiki :) | 17:34 |
| bambee | yofel: hehe thanks :D | 17:34 |
| ScottK | bambee: Excellent. Can you make up a Doodle poll and send it to kubuntu-devel so we can pick a time? | 17:34 |
| ScottK | yofel can help you figure out how if you need it. | 17:34 |
| bambee | yes, some help is welcome :) | 17:35 |
| yofel | pretty intuitive, don't forget to turn on time zone support though | 17:35 |
| bambee | ScottK: the problem is , I am absent the next week , from the 6th august to the 13 th august :\ | 17:37 |
| bambee | (I am on vacation and not at home during a week) | 17:37 |
| ScottK | OK. | 17:37 |
| bambee | so we can schedule a meeting friday.. or in two weeks | 17:37 |
| ScottK | Try one for Friday. | 17:38 |
| bambee | :D | 17:38 |
| bambee | http://www.doodle.com/f3v9k6vpycesgm2b | 17:50 |
| ScottK | bambee: email kubuntu-devel too. | 17:51 |
| bambee | ok | 17:51 |
| yofel | bambee: the first time appears as 8PM for me, correct? | 17:51 |
| bambee | yofel: yes, 8PM UTC | 17:52 |
| yofel | ah UTC, the page doesn't say that | 17:52 |
| yofel | doodle has time zone support too btw. | 17:52 |
| ScottK | Oh. | 17:53 |
| ScottK | Need to redo mine. | 17:53 |
| bambee | yofel: refresh now | 17:53 |
| bambee | (I added a comment :p) | 17:53 |
| yofel | thanks | 17:53 |
| ScottK | darkwingduck, apachelogger, Riddell: ^^^ | 17:53 |
| maco | bambee: are you also going to be at Pennsic?? | 17:53 |
| bambee | maco: gné? | 17:53 |
| maco | guess that means no | 17:53 |
| bambee | I did not understand your question | 17:54 |
| darkwingduck | ScottK: Looking at it and doing the UTC to my zone math :) | 17:54 |
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| bambee | maco: ^ | 17:54 |
| * yofel should be in berlin by 5pm | 17:54 | |
| maco | bambee: im going to be gone the same days too, but i'll be in a tent with this group http://www.flame.org/~explorer/album/pennsic-27/arial/pennsic-27-207.jpg in this atmosphere http://www.housetaivassalama.com/Pennsic06-3.jpg | 17:55 |
| bambee | ah :) | 17:56 |
| ScottK | Fixed. | 17:57 |
| * bambee poke apachelogger | 18:02 | |
| DarkwingDuck | Okay, updated. | 18:02 |
| bambee | apachelogger: http://doodle.com/f3v9k6vpycesgm2b | 18:06 |
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| bambee | Princess Butterfly ? lool :D | 19:10 |
| DarkwingDuck | I saw that too | 19:11 |
| DarkwingDuck | :D | 19:11 |
| bambee | hehe :) | 19:14 |
| ScottK | No wondering who that is. | 19:17 |
| yofel | ScottK: for some reason we have the quickaccess widget on the desktop, but after installing alternate i386 'plasma-widget-quickaccess' isn't installed | 19:45 |
| ScottK | yofel: I already filed a bug about this. | 19:46 |
| yofel | ok | 19:46 |
| ScottK | http://launchpad.net/bugs/805960 | 19:46 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 805960 in kubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "quickaccess widget not found" [Medium,Fix committed] | 19:46 |
| ScottK | Err, actually I found a bug apachelogger had filed. | 19:46 |
| yofel | k | 19:47 |
| * yofel looks for a bug about wrong keyboard layout after install | 19:47 | |
| apachelogger | somone could upload KDS I suppose | 20:00 |
| yofel | now let's find out why the blur effect doesn't work... | 20:00 |
| ScottK | New candidate ISOs up for testing. | 20:00 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: After Alpha 3 is out. | 20:01 |
| ScottK | We need a new knds too. | 20:01 |
| yofel | ah, desktop isos are done :) | 20:01 |
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| ScottK | Need some testing people .... | 21:19 |
| ScottK | steveire: I'm having a severe problem with kmail configuration and focus stealing with plasma-netbook. Who would be the best kdepim person to discuss that with? | 21:56 |
| ScottK | No taco boy when you need him. | 22:00 |
| ScottK | WTF "Allow the installation of untrusted packages" by default. | 22:01 |
| ScottK | New DVD up. Needs testing. | 22:11 |
| ScottK | claydoh: Bug #820638 needs to be documented in known issues. | 22:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 820638 in muon (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Muon defaults insecure" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/820638 | 22:23 |
| yofel | O_O | 22:25 |
| claydoh | ScottK: lol, can't even get in the door :) | 22:28 |
| claydoh | though adding an item sure beats my work day - *all* the windows in the restaurant had rocks thrown through them early this am, and then both refrigerators for the sandwich stations died | 22:29 |
| ScottK | Ouch. | 22:29 |
| claydoh | yet we were able to open for biz almost on time | 22:29 |
| ScottK | Nice | 22:29 |
| claydoh | glass everywhere literally | 22:30 |
| ScottK | Wow. | 22:30 |
| claydoh | ya, and no evidence on who did it, tho I could name a couple of suspects | 22:31 |
| DarkwingDuck | ScottK: I'll be able to test soon. | 22:31 |
| claydoh | so now it is Miller Time | 22:31 |
| ScottK | DarkwingDuck: Great. Did you respond to the KC doodle poll? | 22:32 |
| claydoh | tho i don't drink | 22:32 |
| DarkwingDuck | I was the second one to add a name. | 22:32 |
| DarkwingDuck | 'cept I did it with my real name. :D | 22:32 |
| bambee | ScottK: I'll be able to test tomorrow, in the morning | 22:33 |
| ScottK | Great. | 22:34 |
| ScottK | Oh, sure enough. | 22:34 |
| ScottK | jussi: The current ops grants in this channel for KC membership are out of date, I was wondering if you would update them? | 22:51 |
| ScottK | steveire: I filed KDE bug 279336. | 23:11 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 279336 in general "Kmail config wizard retains focus - makes initial configuration on plasma-netbook almost impossible" [Major,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=279336 | 23:11 |
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