[01:17] <SIR_Taco> hello
[01:20] <Unit193> SIR_Taco: Howdy
[01:20] <SIR_Taco> g'day Unit
[01:29] <TroN-0074> are you all using Quassel ?
[01:30] <TroN-0074> that is the worst IRC client I have ever tried
[01:30] <TroN-0074> super slow
[01:30] <SIR_Taco> TroN-0074: good for you, what would you rather use?
[01:30] <TroN-0074> it should it be called Slowssel
[01:31] <TroN-0074> I could use the plain mIRC client
[01:31] <TroN-0074> with nothing on it
[01:31] <SIR_Taco> TroN-0074: then go for it
[01:31] <TroN-0074> thanks
[01:32] <TroN-0074> I coulnt make it work in kubuntu though
[01:32] <TroN-0074> or in linux all together
[01:33] <SIR_Taco> TroN-0074: here's a list of the most common: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[01:33] <TroN-0074> thanks that is great
[01:34] <SIR_Taco> np
[01:37] <TroN-0074> I am trying to join this server in quassel  lug.mtu.edu but when I type /server irc.lug.mtu.edu quassel does nothing
[01:37] <TroN-0074> do you know what am I typing wrong?
[01:40] <jordan_> ive been updating for some time im hung at 60 % its the printer-applet
[01:40] <jordan_> its prepairing
[01:41] <TroN-0074> hey what is the text editor tool installed in kubuntu do you know?
[01:42] <jordan_> im not for sure
[01:42] <jordan_> i maybe kate
[01:42] <TroN-0074> o.k
[01:43] <jordan_> tron, there maybe two installed by default
[01:43] <jordan_> im not for sure
[01:43] <TroN-0074> I tried gedit and it is not there it says
[01:43] <TroN-0074> thanks
[01:43] <SIR_Taco> TroN-0074: Kate for in KDE, nano usually for CLI.... you should be able to change servers in Quassel under File->Networks
[01:44] <SIR_Taco> jordan_: what version of Kubuntu are you running?
[01:44] <TroN-0074> thank you sir taco
[01:44] <jordan_> also tron sudo apt-get install gedit
[01:44] <jordan_> sir, 11.10
[01:45] <jordan_> omg i have no idea
[01:45]  * mendred has gone fishing: Gone away for now
[01:45] <SIR_Taco> jordan_: ok, and you can't access your pritner config from the system settings?
[01:46] <jordan_> ill see
[01:46] <jordan_> yes i can
[01:46] <SIR_Taco> ok... so whats the problem?
[01:46] <jordan_> well when im updating
[01:47] <jordan_> its hanging on printer-applet
[01:47] <jordan_> dont know why
[01:47] <SIR_Taco> ok, and how are you updating?
[01:47] <jordan_> through kmanager
[01:48] <jordan_> when lpacketkit
[01:48] <jordan_> kpacketkit*
[01:48] <jordan_> well*
[01:48] <jordan_> ive been working all day
[01:49] <SIR_Taco> jordan_: ok... what if you open konsole (alt-F2 and type konsole) and then type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[01:49] <jordan_> im refreashing software list now
[01:50] <SIR_Taco> often if you're running alpha/beta/pre-releases, it's best to update through the command-line... often you'll see what went wrong.
[01:50] <jordan_> i dont know what i have
[01:50] <jordan_> im know im not on a beta
[01:51] <jordan_> i dont feel like compiling programs
[01:51] <jordan_> i just like a os that runs
[01:51] <SIR_Taco> 11.10 is the latest alpha/testing release... it will change more than your socks :)
[01:51] <jordan_> i probably have 11.00
[01:51] <jordan_> or what every it is
[01:51] <SIR_Taco> 11.04 is the latest stable, might want to try that
[01:52] <jordan_> i havnt when on kubuntu awhile
[01:52] <jordan_> mainly windows
[01:52] <SIR_Taco> in konsole you can type "uname -a" and it should tell you what version you are running
[01:52] <jordan_> forgot the commad
[01:53] <jordan_> im sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade now
[01:53] <SIR_Taco> ok
[01:53] <SIR_Taco> that should get you up to date with whatever version you're on anyway
[01:54] <jordan_> i know im now on a beta
[01:54] <jordan_> i have the cd somewhere written down on it
[01:55] <jordan_> im on my bed now
[01:55] <jordan_> not my computer deakj
[01:55] <jordan_> desk*
[01:55] <SIR_Taco> haha ok
[01:55] <jordan_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:55] <jordan_> sounds good
[01:55] <SIR_Taco> yes, sounds good... what does "uname -a" report?
[01:55] <jordan_> i was just wondering if anyone else was hanging
[01:56] <SIR_Taco> I'm on 11.10, and no hang
[01:56] <jordan_> Linux Compaq-Presario-CQ60 2.6.38-10-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 28 15:05:41 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[01:56] <lsv> is it normal if iwconfig shows wifi0 and wlan0 but I only have one wireless card?
[01:57] <SIR_Taco> you're not running 11.10, or you'd have a 3.0.0.X kernel...
[01:57] <jordan_> sir, also deb packages are installing with no problems
[01:57] <jordan_> i know im not on a beta
[01:57] <SIR_Taco> lsv: depends on the card....
[01:59] <lsv> SIR_Taco: I got an old card, my computer knows about the card, but can't use it (if that makes sense).
[01:59] <SIR_Taco> jordan_: ok, but it's hanging on a printer config? have you tried "sudo dpkg --configure -a" ?
[02:00] <SIR_Taco> lsv: which card?
[02:00] <jordan_> nope
[02:00] <SIR_Taco> jordan_: well try haha
[02:01] <jordan_> thanks for your help
[02:01] <lsv> SIR_Taco: Intersil Corporation Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset (rev 01)
[02:01] <SIR_Taco> hope it helped
[02:02] <lsv> SIR_Taco: I found this link about the card http://www.dlink.com/products/?tab=3&pid=DWL-520&rev=DWL-520
[02:02] <SIR_Taco> ah yes, same card I had... it's a pain in the butt
[02:03] <lsv> SIR_Taco: is there hope?
[02:03] <SIR_Taco> oh yes, you can get it to work no problem... just let me find the site
[02:04] <lsv> SIR_Taco: ok, thanks
[02:07] <SIR_Taco> lsv: it's a wait/or pay site... but the download is legit : http://www.icewalkers.com/Linux/Software/528690/MadWifi.html
[02:08] <SIR_Taco> if you need help installing it I'll be glad to help, I've fought with that one for years lol
[02:08] <lsv> SIR_Taco: ok, thanks a bunch
[02:14] <lsv> SIR_Taco: I just downloaded and extracted the files to a directory in my Desktop.  Could you guide me through the rest (I'm new at this stuff).
[02:16] <SIR_Taco> lsv: yep
[02:16] <lsv> thanks SIR_Taco
[02:16] <SIR_Taco> lsv: go to the direcotry via konsole
[02:17] <lsv> done
[02:17] <SIR_Taco> ok so you should be able to type: "make && sudo make install"
[02:19] <lsv> I got an error..
[02:19] <SIR_Taco> lsv: what error?
[02:20] <lsv> ./kernelversion.c:13:30: fatal error: linux/utsrelease.h: No such file or directory compilation terminated.
[02:20] <SIR_Taco> ok... maybe that was an older release
[02:21] <lsv> and this "Makefile.inc:81: *** Cannot detect kernel version - please check compiler and KERNELPATH.  Stop."
[02:24] <Daskreech> hi SIR_Taco
[02:24] <Daskreech> how are you?
[02:26] <SIR_Taco> lsv: are you running 64-bit?
[02:26] <SIR_Taco> Daskreech: good thanks, and you?
[02:27] <lsv> I'm pretty sure the computer is 32-bit.
[02:27] <Daskreech> SIR_Taco: Not too bad
[02:29] <SIR_Taco> lsv: try "sudo apt-get install build-essentials" then try your "make && sudo make install
[02:29] <JuJuBee_> How can I share via exports a partition that is ntfs formatted?
[02:30] <szal> SIR_Taco: build-essential, without the s
[02:31] <SIR_Taco> yes
[02:31] <lsv> SIR_Taco: the computer with the problem does not have internet access, but dpkg-query -l *build* says I have that package installed
[02:31] <SIR_Taco> ok
[02:34] <SIR_Taco> the problem is that ath5k and ath9k screw up older Atheros based cards..... I've had this argument many times.... It's a pain to find the currecnt driver because it's "technically" depreciated..... but I will find it haha
[02:35] <lsv> :O thanks :D
[02:36] <Daskreech> I keep wondering if they should symlink build-essentials to build-essential
[02:39] <SIR_Taco> lsv: how about  http://snapshots.madwifi-project.org/madwifi-0.9.4/madwifi-0.9.4-r4149-20110707.tar.gz
[02:39] <SIR_Taco> that's the latest
[02:40] <lsv> SIR_Taco: ok just a sec
[02:47] <lsv> it looks like everything went ok, no errors (just a few warnings)
[02:47] <SIR_Taco> warnings are usually ok
[02:47] <lsv> what should I do next?
[02:47] <SIR_Taco> you should be able to do "sudo modprobe ath_pci"
[02:48] <lsv> done
[02:50] <lsv> sudo lshw -C network shows that the card is still disabled and is using the hostap driver
[02:53] <SIR_Taco> a restart is likely required and yoy might want to blacklist the  5k and 9k drivers
[02:54] <lsv> just add blacklist 5k and blacklist 9k on the /something file
[02:57] <lsv> in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf file
[02:59] <SIR_Taco> yes, there is likely one that is called "blacklist-ath_pci.conf" and you can add a # to the line that says "blacklist ath_pci"
[03:00] <lsv> SIR_Taco: ok thanks.  I was wondering about that blacklist-ath_pci.conf file.
[03:00] <SIR_Taco> the old driver breaks the newer cards... and the newer driver breaks the older cards... they didn't seem to find a solution to that
[03:02] <lsv> computer is booting up
[03:03] <SIR_Taco> ok
[03:05] <lsv> I still can't connect :(
[03:06] <lsv> SIR_Taco: sudo lshw -C network still shows the card as disabled and using the hostap driver
[03:08] <SIR_Taco> this is an actual install or a VM?
[03:08] <lsv> actual install
[03:09] <SIR_Taco> and "sudo modprobe ath_pci" does nothing?
[03:11] <lsv> sudo modprobe ath_pci loaded ath_pci, wlan, ath_hal
[03:13] <SIR_Taco> lsv: that's good... it loaded the right drivers...
[03:15] <lsv> http://pastebin.com/CHQxAFu0 <- output form sudo lshw -C network, lsmod, and lspci | grep -i net
[03:16] <lsv> SIR_Taco: if you want any other output, just ask.
[03:16] <SIR_Taco> still cant connect?
[03:17] <lsv> no
[03:17] <SIR_Taco> the card is likely called ath0
[03:18] <SIR_Taco> not wifi0 or eth0, if that helps
[03:19] <lsv> should I try sudo ip link set ath0 up?
[03:20] <lsv> or should I try removing the hostap drivers?
[03:26] <SIR_Taco> should be able to "sudo dhclient ath0" or if you have a complicated config, you can set i9t up with network manager, or the command line
[03:28] <lsv> ok let me check
[03:31] <lsv> sudo dhclient ath0 gave me an error saying:  SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
[03:31] <joehuscky> hi emma
[03:32] <lsv> ath0:  ERROR while getting interface flags:  No such device
[03:32] <SIR_Taco> lsv:  and you're restarted since?
[03:33] <lsv> yes
[03:34] <SIR_Taco> you're typing from the computer? or it's another computer?
[03:34] <lsv> I don't know if this helps but when I removed the hostap_pci driver, iwconfig didn't find any wireless card
[03:34] <lsv> another computer
[03:35] <lsv> I'm on my laptop and the computer with the problems is a desktop
[03:35] <SIR_Taco> and the ath5k and ath9k drivers are blacklisted?
[03:37] <lsv> there was a typo in the blacklist, correction has been made.  should I reboot?
[03:38] <SIR_Taco> I would, yes
[03:39] <lsv> ok, rebooting...
[03:41] <lsv> SIR_Taco: rebooted, and I did a sudo dhclient ath0, got the same error.
[03:42] <SIR_Taco> but you should have some sort of network secruity... WEP/WAP etc.
[03:42] <lsv> yes
[03:43] <lsv> WPA/WPA2
[03:46] <SIR_Taco> and you set that up?
[03:46] <lsv> the security thing? yes
[03:47] <SIR_Taco> and it will not connect?
[03:47] <lsv> no
[03:47] <lsv> the card should be using the driver that was compiled right?
[03:49] <SIR_Taco> yes... you should be able to type in the konsole "lsmod | grep ath_pci" and get a result
[03:52] <lsv> I had to modprobe ath_pci first to get a result form lsmod | grep ath_pci.  lspci -vv says: "Kernel driver in use: hostap_pci"
[03:53] <lsv> how can I change that?
[03:54] <SIR_Taco> lsv: what is currently using your lan drivers?
[03:54] <lsv> SIR_Taco: I don't understand the question.
[03:54] <lsv> what should I do to find out?
[03:56] <SIR_Taco> let me boot my laptop to find out definitively...
[03:57] <lsv> ok, thanks for helping me.  I know I'm taking a big part of your day.
[03:57] <Squidy_at_Home> hello guys... is there any repository to install ubuntu one on kubuntu?
[03:58] <sythe> yes
[03:58] <sythe> "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[03:58] <sythe> from the terminal
[03:58] <sythe> Then, "sudo dpkg -reconfigure kdm"
[03:58] <sythe> Or, "sudo dpkg -reconfigure gdm"
[03:59] <sythe> You have to pick GNOME when  you login, though
[03:59] <sythe> Initially
[03:59] <SIR_Taco> lsv: just pass it along when you can, that's all that anyone around here asks
[03:59] <sythe> Squidy_at_Home: Got it?
[03:59] <Squidy_at_Home> sythe: ubuntu-desktop? I don't want to install gnome desktop here
[03:59] <Squidy_at_Home> :/
[04:00] <Squidy_at_Home> only ubuntu one and the gtk libs needed
[04:00] <sythe> Ugh
[04:00] <sythe> You MUST install them both
[04:00] <sythe> Got it?
[04:00] <lsv> SIR_Taco: got it.  I sometimes help with little things on the #ubuntu channel
[04:00] <sythe> You can't pick and choose, without going through hell, Squidy_at_Home
[04:01] <SIR_Taco> lsv: that's the way to do it
[04:01] <Squidy_at_Home> sythe: or just use dropbox.. =/
[04:02] <sythe> Ok, Squidy_at_Home...you don't know what you're talking about
[04:02] <Squidy_at_Home> sythe: why not?
[04:03] <sythe> You can't pick and choose, without going through hell, Squidy_at_Home
[04:03] <sythe> Got it?
[04:03] <sythe> You MUST install them both
[04:03] <sythe> Got it?
[04:03] <Squidy_at_Home> ok
[04:03] <sythe> Good
[04:06] <Squidy_at_Home> anybody installed ubuntuone on kubuntu?
[04:07] <sythe> It comes with normal Ubuntu
[04:07] <sythe> You can also download the DEB
[04:07] <sythe> It should work perfectly
[04:10] <redeyyez> anyone suggest a method for transferring music to an ipod running linux?
[04:14] <Daskreech> redeyyez: If the ipod is running linux just copy them over like a Thumbdrive It will pick it up
[04:15] <redeyyez> the ipod is running its normal apple IOS
[04:16] <wildgoose> !ipod
[04:16] <redeyyez> handy, lol thanks.
[04:17] <wildgoose> yup '/msg ubottu topic' for others
[04:17] <samuelsfam> I agree to the terms and services
[04:17] <samuelsfam> iPod != cool
[04:18] <redeyyez> !RockBox
[04:19] <lsv> test
[04:20] <bcness> Cebu
[04:39] <aperson> this one is a long shot but...: I'm setting up a conky for my desktop and I've noticed that if I use images + conky transparency, the images are getting washed out
[04:39] <aperson> if I disable the transparency, the images are fine.  So, does anyone have experience with this?
[04:48] <Daskreech> can you choose how much transparency?
[04:48] <Daskreech>  try turning down that alpha channel some
[05:49] <tanker_> hello
[06:17] <Daskreech> Hi
[06:21] <LINKSWORD2> Hey, claydoh.
[06:22] <LINKSWORD2> Greetings, larva
[06:23] <Daskreech> :-)
[06:23]  * Daskreech waves
[06:23] <LINKSWORD2> And greetings, Daskreech
[06:24] <LINKSWORD2> -_-
[06:35] <LINKSWORD2> Anyone know how to compile a program file?
[06:35] <LINKSWORD2> I was working with DarkwingDuck before I had a connection problem.
[06:36] <Kalidarn> LINKSWORD2: not quite sure what you mean by 'compile a program file'
[06:37] <LINKSWORD2> Just a moment. I can get the link for the file.
[06:38] <lsv> LINKSWORD2: gcc -Wall -o program_name source_files.c
[06:38] <Kalidarn> :P well that's assuming it's C code he's trying to compile.
[06:39] <LINKSWORD2> ... I've no idea what that means.
[06:39] <Kalidarn> just tell us what you are trying to do, and a link by all means would help define what you are trying to do
[06:39] <lsv> does the file ends with .c
[06:40] <Kalidarn> just find that link for us so we can tell you
[06:40] <lsv> LINKSWORD2: yeah what Kalidarn said
[06:40] <LINKSWORD2> http://sourceforge.net/projects/passwordmanager/files/PwManager STABLE/1.2.4/pwmanager-1.2.4.tar.bz2/download
[06:40] <Kalidarn>  oh so you are trying to compile a piece of software you found on the internet
[06:40] <Kalidarn> well.
[06:41] <Kalidarn> look at the readme, usually a good place to start
[06:42] <Kalidarn> you may have trouble meeting those dependencies due to the fact it's old unmaintained software
[06:42] <LINKSWORD2> Well, I asked DarkwingDuck about a password manager, and this is the one he recommended.
[06:43] <Kalidarn> and it hasn't been ported to KDE4
[06:43] <LINKSWORD2> If this one won't work, I'd like to be notified of an alternative...
[06:43] <Kalidarn> i usually just store mine in a text file (inside a truecrypt volume)
[06:43] <Kalidarn> that way it's accessable on any OS
[06:44] <Kalidarn> i think a lot of people use keepassx
[06:44] <LINKSWORD2> keepassx?
[06:44] <Kalidarn> which you wont need to compile because it's in the ubuntu repository
[06:45] <Kalidarn> sudo apt-get install keepassx
[06:45] <Kalidarn> pwmanager (the software you linked) hasn't been updated since 2005
[06:45] <Kalidarn> so i wouldn't use it :)
[06:45] <Kalidarn> i also had a look at the readme, and it says it needs kdelibs 3.1 and qt3.1
[06:45] <Kalidarn> you'll have trouble meeting those dependencies to compile it.
[06:46] <Kalidarn> it hasn't been updated to use the newer libraries
[06:47] <Kalidarn> oh LINKSWORD2 you're back
[06:47] <LINKSWORD2> I didn't know I'd left....
[06:47] <Kalidarn> looks like your internet dced on you.
[06:47] <lsv> <-- LINKSWORD2 has left this server (Read error: Connection reset by peer).
[06:47] <Kalidarn> but yeah i'd use http://www.keepassx.org/screenshots/
[06:48] <Kalidarn> http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/keepassx especially as it's maintained, and in ubuntu's repository
[06:51] <LINKSWORD2> This is going to take some learning... lol
[06:51] <Kalidarn> just install it through kpackageit
[06:51] <Kalidarn> or type "sudo apt-get install keepassx"
[06:51] <LINKSWORD2> No, no... It's installed now.
[06:52] <Kalidarn> ah
[06:52] <LINKSWORD2> But I mean I'm going to have to learn how to use the program. lol
[06:52] <Kalidarn> ya
[06:52] <Kalidarn> that's why i just use a .TXT file in a truecrypt container
[06:52] <Kalidarn> and probably more secure too :P
[06:53] <LINKSWORD2> truecrypt?
[06:53] <Kalidarn> http://www.truecrypt.org/
[06:53] <Kalidarn> pretty much the best encryption software
[06:54] <LINKSWORD2> Kalidarn: Hiding your porn in encrypted files again, are you?
[06:54] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[06:55] <Kalidarn> i don't have any actually
[06:55] <Kalidarn> why bother saving it these days
[06:55] <LINKSWORD2> LMAO!
[06:56] <LINKSWORD2> I was kidding around with you.
[06:56] <LINKSWORD2> But it sounds like you've got some demons to reconcile...
[06:57] <Kalidarn> lol i know, and no i don't think i do.
[06:57] <Kalidarn> i think that's obvious if you read what i said carefully.
[06:59] <rww> LINKSWORD2: That's not appropriate for a family-friendly channel.
[07:00] <Kalidarn> what rww said.
[07:00] <LINKSWORD2> Sorry. Just a joke.
[07:12] <LINKSWORD2> Ah. There's a good question....
[07:12] <LINKSWORD2> Anybody know what *FREE* software I can download via a torrent engine?
[07:13] <rww> Kubuntu :3
[07:13] <LINKSWORD2> I know OpenOffice.org is one of them, but that's about all I know of, and with Kubuntu using LibreOffice, Open isn't needed.
[07:13] <LINKSWORD2> ... Of course, Kubuntu. I forgot to mention that.
[07:15] <LINKSWORD2> Odd.
[07:15] <LINKSWORD2> Rekong isn't affected by the Alt+D command, to jump to the address bar...
[07:16] <LINKSWORD2> And apparently, neither is Konqueror.
[07:17] <LINKSWORD2> Is that keyboard shortcut just not programmed into those browsers?
[09:29] <eean> where are keyboard settings?
[09:29] <eean> my right shift key doesn't work, and neither of the control keys...
[09:30] <eean> ah fixed it
[09:31] <antihero> Is there any way to get the calendar to sync with my GCal?
[09:32] <James147> antihero: you can try "akonadi-kde-resource-googledata"
[09:36] <antihero> James147: Thank you fellow James. How pray I set it up once I've installed that?
[09:38] <alvin> Akonadi resources were removed from system settings because developers deemed users too stupid to set them up properly. You'll have to search for it.
[09:38] <antihero> :|
[09:43] <alvin> (Search in the KDE menu. I know, it's stupid)
[09:47] <Tm_T> eean: what was it?
[09:48] <eean> needed a 104 key keyboard instead of 101
[09:48] <eean> just had to search for 'keyboard' in the launcher... why isn't it in system settings?
[09:49] <Tm_T> it isn't?
[09:50] <eean> nope
[09:50] <Tm_T> hmmmm, Systemsettings -> Input devices
[09:50] <eean> ...doesn't have keyboards
[09:50] <Tm_T> does have here
[09:51] <eean> psh okay
[09:51] <Tm_T> eean: 11.04 with 4.7?
[09:51] <eean> somehow I missed that
[09:51] <eean> just upgraded to 4.7 that must be it... I'll pretend it wasn't there in 4.6 :)
[09:52] <Tm_T> (;
[09:52] <Tm_T> actually, back then it might have been somewhere else
[09:52] <Tm_T> and as the search of systemsettings is what it is...
[09:53] <James147> Tm_T: nop, in 4.6 its in input devices :)
[09:53] <eean> ssssh
[09:56] <antihero> grr, kontact wont open properly I get "Failed to fetch resource collection."
[09:57] <alvin> Yeah, I did the upgrade too. No kontact anymore. Crash, crash, crash.
[10:18] <eean> ok I can't hold down a key for it to repeat
[10:18] <eean> where is this setting?
[10:18] <eean> history says it will be somewhere obvious that I missed ;)
[10:25] <eean> gah sorry
[10:25] <eean> so how do I get the keypress repeat settings right?
[10:26] <James147> eean: in the keyboard settings ...
[10:26] <eean> gah, well I see keyboard repeat but its already turned on
[10:27] <eean> so there must be a problem
[10:28] <eean> maybe it doesn't like that I changed my keyboard, will restart X later
[11:13] <lokai> I'm trying to setup dual monitors under the latest ubuntu/KDE. When I set up the monitors as I wish in systemsetting (or via xrandr), I get logged off and the monitors are reverted back to their default configuration (mirrored). How do I fix this?
[11:14] <alvin> lokai: Put your xrandr commands in /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup
[11:15] <lokai> why won't it work when I directly input them in the commandline?
[11:23] <alvin> lolcat: It should.
[11:24] <lokai> I'm trying to get dual monitor under the latest kde/ubuntu, and making the correct setting in systemsetting or xrandr forces a system logout, which restores the original configuration. How do I solve this?
[11:26] <alvin> As I just told you. You put the commands in /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup. Another method is using /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:27] <lokai> alvin, doing what you suggested just caused me to be locked out of the GUI part of my system, bro
[11:27] <lokai> had to ssh and revert back to the original xsetup
[11:28] <lokai> which isn't surprising when you think about how I described the problem, actually.
[11:28] <alvin> I'm sorry. Let me rephrase then: put the correct xrandr commands in /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup :-)
[11:28] <alvin> If you test them using the command line and they don't work, they will not in Xsetup either.
[11:29] <lokai> k, is this wrong? xrandr --output VGA1 --left-of DVI1
[11:29] <alvin> If you're using binary nvidia drivers, don't use xrandr. Use /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:29] <alvin> Doesn't look wrong to me.
[11:30] <alvin> As long as your device names are correct. Just typing xrandr in an X terminal should tell you the possibilities that are detected.
[11:30] <lokai> ugh, but there is no more xorg.conf in latest release, is there?
[11:30] <alvin> By default everything is auto-detected, but you can still use the file. It works perfectly and is needed if you want to use nvidia's twinview.
[11:32] <James147> lokai: if you have an nvidia card with the closed drivers installed then run "sudo nvidia-xconfig" and "kdesudo nvidia-settings" to configure the dualscreen
[11:33] <afief> In LireOffice the tooltips have black background + black text color(Kubuntu 11.04+kde4.7 ppa). Is there a way to fix this?
[11:33] <lokai> eh, I'm using some integrated chip
[11:34] <James147> lokai: .lspci | grep VGA
[11:34] <lokai> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[11:34] <James147> intel should work with xrandr  :S
[11:35] <lokai> yep, I don't have any ideas. The device name are correct, btw
[11:40] <noaXess> boom.. updating to kde 4.7 don't get forwar :(
[11:40] <noaXess> d
[11:40] <BluesKaj> Hello all
[11:41] <noaXess> Hey BluesKaj
[11:41] <BluesKaj> hi noaXess
[11:41] <noaXess> i try to upgrade to kde 4.7 but update process still on 47% since 1 hour :(
[11:42] <noaXess> current package.. libktorrent-l10n.. on another machine.. same problem.. current package there shared-desktop.onotologies
[11:42] <noaXess> do i need break the process and to it over cmli?
[11:42] <noaXess> command line
[11:43] <BluesKaj> , what method , add ppa then upgrae
[11:43] <BluesKaj> upgrade?
[11:43] <noaXess> BluesKaj: yes.. but had backports ppa long time ago added... just upgrade over software updates
[11:44] <BluesKaj> right
[11:44] <noaXess> so breack current upgrade process and run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade?
[11:46] <BluesKaj> noaXess, dunno for sure , but maybe purge ktorrent , do the upgrade mormally, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade , then reinstall ktorrent later
[11:47] <noaXess> BluesKaj: but on the other machine a complete other package won't installed.. so seems it's not a ktorrent package problem
[11:47] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade just upgrades the installed packages
[11:47] <noaXess> on the other machin i killed dpkg and packagekitd now sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:48] <BluesKaj> yes
[11:48] <noaXess> seem to work like this.. will that do also on my main machine..
[11:48] <BluesKaj> ok that sounds right
[11:48] <noaXess> BluesKaj: you tried also upgrade to 4.7?
[11:48] <BluesKaj> do dist-upgrade
[11:48] <noaXess> ok..
[11:48] <BluesKaj> yes I have 4.7 installed
[11:49] <noaXess> isnt't dist-upgrade deprecated?
[11:49] <BluesKaj> not for upgrades to kde , only for the distro
[11:50] <BluesKaj> the distro is do-release-upgrade , now
[11:50] <noaXess> BluesKaj: ah. .yes
[11:51] <noaXess> seems to work on my second machine.. a netbook
[11:51] <James147> noaXess: dist-upgrade is not deprecated, it is used to upgrade all packages even if they require other packages to be install or removed... the normal upgrade wont install these packages
[11:51] <noaXess> James147: aha.. goot information ;
[11:51] <noaXess> )
[11:51] <noaXess> ;) grr.
[11:51] <noaXess> thanks
[11:51] <FloodBotK1> noaXess: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:53] <James147> noaXess: do-release-upgrade is just a nicer way of doing the upgrade process between distros but essentiallys is just the same thing (edit sources.list > run apt-get dist-upgrade > run apt-get autoremove  basically)
[11:53] <noaXess> grrr.. still on a kde upgrade.. network-manager-kde will be installed.. but i use wicd... purge network-manager...
[11:55] <noaXess> do you guys nowing anything about multitouching on linux?... on my netbook, asus, i have a touchscreen.. it works from scratch.. but multitouching will be interesting... from scratch ;)
[11:56] <noaXess> have knowledge ^
[11:58] <BluesKaj> noaXess, sorry , no experience with that ...altho I'm thinking of buying a betbook...need to do some research
[11:59] <noaXess> BluesKaj: whats a betbook :) hehe.. seem you mean netbook LOL
[12:07] <OerHeks> noaXess, #Ubuntu-touch may be intresting for you MT screen
[12:07] <OerHeks> oh
[12:12] <noaXess> grrr... my sound has still same problem. on a fresh boot.. sound is like muted, but it's not muted.. i need to mute/unmute and set sound level to my favorite... but after reboot it's gone :( ?? any idea?
[12:14] <OerHeks> noaXess, #Ubuntu-touch may be intresting for you MT screen
[12:14] <noaXess> OerHeks: aha.. thnks
[12:16] <lolcat> alvin: It should?
[12:17] <server_> caw lidi jste tu
[12:18] <BluesKaj> noaXess, turn auto mute off in alsamixer
[12:18] <server_> cz
[12:20] <noaXess> BluesKaj: and how?
[12:24] <BluesKaj> noaXess,type  alsamixer in the terminal, look or automute
[12:24] <BluesKaj> for
[12:25] <noaXess> BluesKaj: tried.. on automute option ...
[12:27] <BluesKaj> noaXess, seems to be gone in 4.7
[13:49] <server_> pls elp
[13:49] <server_> cz
[13:49] <server_> je tu negdo cz
[13:50] <BluesKaj> !cz
[14:17] <Linkmaster> how do you change the font size in okular? I have some forms that are being added into, and the font size changes. I want them all to be the same size, that is small
[14:23] <jrdnyquist> Regarding Kubuntu 11.04... I'm trying to get routes working in a pptp/vpn setup. I setup pptp via the Network Manager GUI and it connects OK. I need an additional route now but the "additional adresses" area is greyed out. I cannot add additional routes via this area. Any ideas?
[14:40] <jrdnyquist> Well I can add the route manually and it works. It's strange that it's greyed out in the network manager GUI though
[16:01] <systemclient> 11.04: how can I create a new user with an encrypted home?
[16:08] <jee_> hello
[16:17] <BluesKaj> systemclient, create anew user then follow this : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FolderEncryption
[16:18] <systemclient> BluesKaj: on Ubuntu, there is a neat option in the add user menu. Is there something like that for KDE?
[16:50] <tonymc> hi all
[16:50] <tonymc> is 4.7 software hitting PPA any time soon?
[16:53] <Peace-> tonymc: mm?
[16:53] <Peace-> tonymc: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.7
[16:57] <tonymc> no what i meant was the 4.7 programs e.g. the new KMail, Dolphin, DigiKam 2 etc.
[16:57] <tonymc> the 4.7 base framework is in the PPA's but there's no new software yet
[17:29] <yofel> tonymc: erm. everything of 4.7 is in backports, except pim which is in experimental
[17:29] <yofel> well, almost. kstars is still missing
[17:34] <tonymc> not everything
[17:34] <tonymc> digikam 2.0 isn't there
[17:36] <yofel> *that* isn't part of the SC
[17:36] <tonymc> ahh
[17:54] <valyuta> всем привет
[17:56] <Unit193> !ru | valyuta
[17:57] <Unit193> Вы, возможно, больше повезет там
[17:58] <tonymc> а может ему не нужна помощь, может он просто поболтать пришел
[18:00] <valyuta> помощь нужна всегда
[18:01] <tonymc> есть какие то определенные вопросы?
[18:03] <valyuta> хочу вот самбу настроить)не откажусь от помощи
[18:04] <tonymc> ну я с самбой имел дела тока на самом примитивном уровне, так что в зависимости от того, чего ты хочешь добиться, я может и смогу помочь
[18:05] <Pici> !ru | tonymc
[18:05] <Unit193> !en
[18:06] <Sakui> Hello
[18:06] <tonymc> valyuta there is an assload of tutorials of how to install Samba both in english and russian, so a little googling should give you the results you would want
[18:06] <valyuta> да вот есть сетка домашняя, на бунте сижу не особо давно, поетому пытаюсь как тут сделать общие папки
[18:08] <szal> tonymc, valyuta: please speak English here
[18:09] <Sakui> When I install kubuntu 11.04 64-bit, I get an I/O error. I burned the CD 2 times, and I have wiped the hard drive with 'wipe' and I still get the same error.
[18:10] <szal> did you check (1) MD5, SHA1 or SHA256 sum before burning, (1a) preferably verify the burn in the burning program, and (2) run the media self test after burning?
[18:11] <Sakui> no
[18:11] <Sakui> i'll check it.
[18:18] <server_> cz
[18:18] <server_> cz
[18:21] <server_> ahuj
[18:21] <server_> mluvite cz
[18:21] <server_> cz
[18:21] <server_> cz
[18:21] <genii-around> !cz
[18:21] <server_> cz
[18:54] <Sakui> szal: i redownload it....i didn't get the correct checksum
[18:56] <jmichaelx> is anyone else experiencing the issue in 4.7 with icons in the task manager not going away after a window is closed?
[19:05] <Daskreech> jmichaelx: Who closes windows??
[19:05] <Daskreech> but no I haven't seen it :-D
[19:30] <jmichaelx> Daskreech: who closes windows?
[19:30] <jmichaelx> Daskreech: THAT is probably an excellent question
[19:42]  * jmichaelx resolves to quit closing windows
[19:43] <genii-around> I haven't seen the lingering icon problem with any of my different versions ( 4.6.4, 4.7 ) but it sounds like possibly a video card artifact problem
[19:47] <jmichaelx> genii-around: possibly, however this is occuring on two different machines. one with an nvdia ion2 gpu w/prop. drivers, the other with intel x3150 and FOSS drivers
[19:48] <jmichaelx> genii-around: also, the task manager icon disappears once another window is opened
[19:51] <BluesKaj> jmichaelx, yes I see that 'residual icon; quite often in kde 4.7
[19:53] <jmichaelx> BluesKaj: what kind of video adapter do you use on the machine where you are seeing this?
[19:53] <BluesKaj> nvidia 8400gs pcix
[19:55] <BluesKaj> nvidia 280.13 driver , jmichaelx
[19:55] <BluesKaj> anyway BBQ awaits ..BBL
[19:55] <jmichaelx> wow, had no idea that pcix video adapters had ever been manufactured
[19:56] <BluesKaj> jmichaelx, it's agraphics card
[19:57] <jmichaelx> BluesKaj: yea, in my mind 'video adapter' == 'graphics card'
[19:57] <tonymc> is there an easy GUI way to turn on samba share without a username?
[19:57] <szal> BluesKaj: did you mean: PCIe?
[19:58] <BluesKaj> pci express
[19:58] <szal> PCIe, then
[19:58] <BluesKaj> bbl
[19:59] <jmichaelx> ahhh
[19:59] <BluesKaj> x sounds better
[19:59] <jmichaelx> i had just googled, and was finding no pcix graphics cards at all
[19:59] <tonymc> is there an easy GUI way to turn on samba share without a username?
[20:01] <jmichaelx> BluesKaj: only problem is that there is such a thing as pci-x (which you probably already know), which is entirely a different from pci-e
[20:02] <tonymc> i can't check out Dolphin sources, where are they?
[20:07] <BluesKaj> pci express. sorry to disappoint you picky characters  ..X usually means express in most nomenclature Ive seen in my scientific life ..off the job and on
[20:09] <BluesKaj> whoever named it pcie is a nitwit :)
[20:19] <Secris> Is there any way to make kubuntu feel less sluggish
[20:20] <szal> Secris: better specified hardware
[20:20] <Secris> What do you mean
[20:20]  * szal doesn't think Kubuntu sluggish
[20:22] <Secris> My computers all feel sluggish running Kubuntu even compared to ubuntu
[20:24] <chan_> does anyone know how i can host my own chat
[20:25] <szal> BluesKaj: well, that is not our fault, the proper shortname is PCIe, and we can't do much about that :P
[20:25] <szal> chan_: define 'chat'..  there's a ton of different protocols out there
[20:26] <chan_> nevermind i googled it ha thanks though
[20:29] <andreas> hey guys, I've got a simple question. I have copied a few films on 1080p on my USB-stick an yesterday i copied them on my pc (i croped and paseted it). Now my USB-device is empty but there are still 1,5GB of 7,5GB occupied. I searched for "hidden" files but found nothing. Why is something in use when i cant find it?
[20:31] <andreas> and yes i'm quite new at kubuntu
[20:38] <liquid__> how to close GUI not closing the system?
[20:38] <liquid__> and start it from command prompt?
[20:40] <gomiboy> liquid__: logout and press ctrl + f1
[20:41] <gomiboy> liquid__: i mean ctrl + alt +f1 :P
[20:43] <liquid__> gomiboy: does this close GUI or only switches to command prompt? ctrl+alt+F7 backs you to the GUI again
[20:44] <liquid__> how to start GUI form command prompt?
[20:45] <JuJuBee_> I have an ntfs partition on my desktop with my music on it. How can I share that out to my laptops? One of the laptops is windows the other linux. I have nfs-kernel-server installed...
[20:46] <gomiboy> liquid__: tell us what you want to do
[20:47] <liquid__> sometimes I need pc running but don't need GUI at all; sometimes I'd like to enter GUI
[20:48] <liquid__> ...from running system
[20:50] <gomiboy> liquid__: then as i said, just logout (which closes every running program) and switch to ctrl + alt+ f1. If you need the gui, ctrl +alt+f7 and login
[20:56] <gomiboy> JuJuBee_: you have to share the folder in windows then type in the address bar of dolphin smb://WindowsPCName (or IP)
[20:57] <JuJuBee_> gomiboy: The music folder is on an ntfs partition mounted under kubuntu 10.04.
[21:03] <gomiboy> JuJuBee_: oh, ok... then you have use samba... there is this "easy share" in kubuntu, right click on the folder... but i'm not on kubuntu right now and i never used it...
[21:03] <JuJuBee_> I'll try that...
[21:05] <JuJuBee_> Do I need to restart for that to take effect?
[21:05] <gomiboy> no, i don't think so
[21:07] <BluesKaj> szal, well what's the difference between video adapter and graphics card... it's the same difference  between pcie or pcix
[21:08]  * BluesKaj wishes he could recall the the websites that refer to pci express as pcix
[21:09] <szal> PCI-X, short for PCI-eXtended, is a computer bus and expansion card standard that enhances the 32-bit PCI Local Bus for higher bandwidth demanded by servers. It is a double-wide version of PCI, running at up to four times the clock speed, but is otherwise similar in electrical implementation and uses the same protocol.[1] It has been replaced in modern designs by the similar-sounding PCI Express, which features a very different logical
[21:09] <szal> design, most notably being a "narrow but fast" serial connection instead of a "wide but slow" parallel connection.
[21:09] <BluesKaj> anyway , time to go ... dinner , then a movie with wifey
[21:56] <petitdragon999> hi
[22:29] <Daskreech> hi