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| jmburgess | Is anyone available to mark bugs as triaged? I have two kernel bugs that I think are ready. | 13:51 |
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| yofel | jmburgess: most of us don't touch kernel bugs as the kernel team has their own procedure. You usually want to talk to JFo when he's here | 13:58 |
| jmburgess | Yofel, ok ill go talk to ubuntu-kernel | 14:01 |
| bullgard4_ | My Natty kernel crashed. It left 63 lines of code in a virtual terminal. How can I generate a meaningful error report to Launchpad on this? | 14:22 |
| charlie-tca | usually by filing a bug in terminal, with ubuntu-bug linux | 14:24 |
| charlie-tca | after restarting | 14:24 |
| charlie-tca | That should include those lines automatically | 14:24 |
| charlie-tca | and it helps to tell what you were doing when it happened | 14:25 |
| bullgard4_ | Of course it helps to tell what I were doing when the kernel crashed. But I doubt that these lines of text will be included automaticalle. I will give it a try. | 14:26 |
| bullgard4_ | s/automaticalle/automatically/ . | 14:27 |
| charlie-tca | why? everything gets logged in dmesg | 14:28 |
| bullgard4_ | Not all goes logged in dmesg. | 14:29 |
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| bdmurray | yofel: did you find anything out about digikam and geolocation? | 14:36 |
| yofel | no sorry, was busy getting the last bits of kde 4.7 and deps into oneiric | 14:38 |
| bdmurray | yofel: that sounds kind of imporant ;-) | 14:42 |
| jmburgess | Hey guys isn't bug 81942 just how background processes in the terminal work? | 14:43 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 81942 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "[apport] update-manager crashed with DBusException in __call__() (dup-of: 81835)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81942 | 14:43 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 81835 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "[apport] update-manager crashed with DBusException in __call__() (affects: 13) (dups: 36) (heat: 1)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81835 | 14:43 |
| bullgard4_ | charlie-tca: '~$ ubuntu-bug linux' automatically added the files BootDmesg.txt and CurrentDmesg.txt" to the bug report. But these 2 files do not include processor register states, for example. | 14:43 |
| yofel | it sure is, with FF ahead and some of us in berlin next week ;) | 14:43 |
| jmburgess | Sorry I meant 819842 | 14:43 |
| yofel | lp 819842 | 14:44 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 819842 in ubuntu "Commands in the background are terminated after closing the terminal (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/819842 | 14:44 |
| charlie-tca | bullgard4_: do the backups include those? | 14:44 |
| charlie-tca | like /var/log/dmesg.0 | 14:44 |
| yofel | uh yeah, when you close the terminal the shell inside dies and the background jobs with it (AFAIK) | 14:44 |
| charlie-tca | or /var/log/dmesg.1 | 14:44 |
| yofel | there's nohup and screen if you need to keep them running | 14:45 |
| bullgard4_ | charlie-tca: What backups do you speak about? | 14:45 |
| charlie-tca | if you look in /var/log you will see that there are backups of all current log files. Many logs are started new when you reboot. | 14:45 |
| charlie-tca | Do the previous logs have what you are looking for? | 14:46 |
| jmburgess | yofel, yeah that's what I thought. Maybe its a bug in git gui | 14:48 |
| jmburgess | ? | 14:48 |
| bullgard4_ | yofel: In welchen Räumen der Humboldt-Universität wird die GNOME-Konferenz stattfinden? | 14:49 |
| hggdh | jmburgess: no, it is not a bug. This is The Way It Works. The new process is still tied to the terminal. When a parent process dies, it carries all still-tied-in offspring | 14:56 |
| hggdh | jmburgess: so, this is not a bug. The user should run the background process disconnected from the terminal (via, for example, 'nohup') | 14:57 |
| hggdh | and, actually, 'nohup' describes the signal that is passed to the offspring (a kill -HUP) | 14:58 |
| jmburgess | Hggdh, according to roadmr and the reporter this is different behavior than before. That's why I'm interested | 14:59 |
| jmburgess | Hggdh, I agree with you though | 14:59 |
| hggdh | roadmr: ^ What did you see? | 15:00 |
| roadmr | hggdh: on Natty or even Oneiric with xterm, I can gedit & and then kill the terminal, and gedit stays | 15:01 |
| roadmr | hggdh: on Oneiric with gnome-terminal, I do the same and gedit dies when I close the terminal | 15:02 |
| yofel | bullgard4_: sry, was gone: https://www.desktopsummit.org/program has the schedule for the rooms | 15:03 |
| yofel | click on workshops for the other schedule | 15:03 |
| hggdh | interesting | 15:03 |
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| hggdh | roadmr, jmburgess: perhaps GTK disconnects/disconnected. Worth a look, indeed | 15:12 |
| hggdh | roadmr, jmburgess: I subscribed to it; when I have time, I will also look at it | 15:13 |
| roadmr | hggdh: using nohup to launch gui programs keeps them from dying when the terminal is closed :) (old Unix trick) | 15:13 |
| * roadmr hadn't used nohup in years | 15:13 | |
| hggdh | roadmr: indeed, but without nohup I expected the spawned process to die -- and it did not, on Natty | 15:14 |
| roadmr | hggdh: maybe the terminal didn't send any signals to its children before and it does now? | 15:15 |
| hggdh | perhaps | 15:15 |
| bullgard4_ | yofel: I take it that the workshops will be held also in Audimax, Kinosaal, Rm2002, and Rm3038. | 15:16 |
| hggdh | but it is not the term that sends HUP, it is the OS (init? Do not remember) | 15:16 |
| yofel | bullgard4_: here's the usable plan https://www.desktopsummit.org/program/workshops-bofs | 15:17 |
| yofel | I hope that one's right at least | 15:17 |
| yofel | you coming to DS? | 15:17 |
| bullgard4_ | yofel: Yes, I will. | 15:18 |
| yofel | yay | 15:18 |
| jmburgess | hggdh, I think it is bash that's supposed to send the signal. | 15:29 |
| roadmr | if a bug is marked upstream as won't fix (MP3 support on Firefox), should I mark the Launchpad bug won't fix as well, or is it best to make it invalid? | 15:41 |
| charlie-tca | I tend to go with upstream in most cases. | 15:43 |
| hggdh | makes sense -- and add a comment we are wont-fixing following to upstream decision | 15:44 |
| charlie-tca | but you should be checking what the upstream status vs launchpad status means. Sometimes they are not the same, and we have to adjust launchpad status to match | 15:44 |
| micahg | roadmr: bug #? | 15:44 |
| roadmr | micahg: bug 820343 on launchpad, and upstream bug is here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=562730 | 15:45 |
| ubot4 | Mozilla bug 562730 in Video/Audio "Reproducing Mp3 files with html5" [Enhancement,Resolved: wontfix] | 15:45 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 820343 in firefox (Ubuntu) "No support for HTML5 Audio tag (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/820343 | 15:45 |
| roadmr | micahg: I'm still preparing the comment with this information, just wanted to be certain about what status to set to, so I can include an explanation in the comment | 15:45 |
| roadmr | it seems to match LP's won't fix status (feature request that developers do not want to implement) | 15:46 |
| micahg | roadmr: well, it's not entirely true, there won't be native support in Firefox for it, but if a gstreamer backend is added, it should be possible to play mp3 files with HTML5 audio | 15:47 |
| roadmr | ah, interesting | 15:48 |
| micahg | so, native support is won't fix, the ability to play mp3 w/HTML is wishlist triaged... | 15:49 |
| micahg | oh, wait, hmm, there's a bug for gstreamer video support, I should make sure there's audio as well :) | 15:50 |
| micahg | roadmr: I don't see an upstream bug for a gstreamer HTML5 audio backend, maybe worth filing | 16:02 |
| roadmr | micahg: something like this (for video)? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=422540 | 16:09 |
| ubot4 | Mozilla bug 422540 in Video/Audio "GStreamer backend for HTML5 video element" [Enhancement,Assigned: ] | 16:09 |
| micahg | roadmr: yep, but for audio, probably won't be worked on unless someone has an itch to scratch, but might as well file it | 16:11 |
| roadmr | micahg: ok, I'll work on that then (filing it, not actually implementing :) | 16:11 |
| micahg | roadmr: thanks | 16:11 |
| bullgard4_ | persia: ping | 16:37 |
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| tomtiger11 | hello all | 18:24 |
| tomtiger11 | its very quiet | 18:25 |
| Pici | no more bugs | 18:26 |
| tomtiger11 | is anyone going to talk? | 18:27 |
| Pici | Well if you have a question about traiging just ask. #ubuntu is the support channel though. | 18:27 |
| tomtiger11 | i know that but thanks, i was just expecting more chat | 18:28 |
| charlie-tca | We seldom chat about anything except bugs here | 18:30 |
| tomtiger11 | i suppose we do | 18:34 |
| tomtiger11 | but who would talk about bugs alot | 18:34 |
| bdmurray | Anybody remember an update-manager bug report about not offering to upgrade to the next release if on a Live CD? | 18:38 |
| bdmurray | oh I do! bug 775656 | 18:38 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 775656 in update-manager (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 1 other project) "'Ubuntu 11.04 Upgrade Available' must not be displayed when 10.10 is started from a Live CD (affects: 2) (heat: 44)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/775656 | 18:38 |
| charlie-tca | That's right! It showed up in a big window in the middle of the screen | 18:40 |
| tomtiger11 | any help on bug 657788 ? | 18:51 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 657788 in grub2 (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 2 other projects) "grub minimal bash after first Maverick update (affects: 5) (heat: 27)" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/657788 | 18:51 |
| tomtiger11 | im looking for a good simple bug to triage as im quite new | 18:53 |
| tomtiger11 | anyone find me an easy bug to triage? | 18:54 |
| tomtiger11 | as i dont think bug ^^ is any good for me | 18:55 |
| yofel | what's the application you use most frequently - triage bugs for that | 18:56 |
| tomtiger11 | um | 18:56 |
| tomtiger11 | firefox | 18:57 |
| yofel | micahg: ^ | 18:57 |
| * micahg hides | 18:57 | |
| yofel | hehe | 18:57 |
| charlie-tca | heh, that was easy | 18:57 |
| micahg | firefox is a little tricky, a lot of "bugs" are caused by addons | 18:58 |
| tomtiger11 | what, i like the internet?!?!? | 18:58 |
| tomtiger11 | so you think i am totaly new eh? | 18:58 |
| tomtiger11 | il look for one in firefox | 18:58 |
| micahg | tomtiger11: no, no comment about you, just about firefox triage in geenral | 18:59 |
| * micahg certainly doesn't want to discourage help though since there are so many bugs to look at | 19:00 | |
| tomtiger11 | @micagh how about bug 629164? | 19:01 |
| * micahg kicks ubot4 | 19:01 | |
| tomtiger11 | whats the * for | 19:02 |
| micahg | that's not a firefox bug | 19:02 |
| micahg | it's for an "action" versus a statement, one can do it by starting a line with /me | 19:03 |
| tomtiger11 | ok | 19:03 |
| * tomtiger11 | 19:03 | |
| * roadmr greets tomtiger11 | 19:10 | |
| tomtiger11 | i would love to be a member of the ubuntu council | 19:10 |
| * tomtiger11 sobbs loudly as he wants a *@ubuntu.com forwarder =[ | 19:12 | |
| paultag | tomtiger11: that's not a reason to get one. | 19:12 |
| tomtiger11 | how do you comment me? | 19:12 |
| * tomtiger11 is new is irc channels | 19:13 | |
| paultag | tomtiger11: type the name, or part of it then hit tab | 19:13 |
| charlie-tca | tomtiger11: you can get that by becoming an ubuntu member | 19:13 |
| tomtiger11 | paultag: i didnt say it was | 19:14 |
| paultag | tomtiger11: generally the people who care about the email don't so much care about the work :) | 19:14 |
| tomtiger11 | charlie-tca: get what?!? | 19:14 |
| tomtiger11 | paultag: i care about the work, and the email | 19:15 |
| charlie-tca | !member | 19:15 |
| ubot4 | Ubuntu Membership means recognition of a significant and sustained contribution to Ubuntu and the Ubuntu community. For more info see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership | 19:15 |
| charlie-tca | tomtiger11: the *@ubuntu.com | 19:15 |
| tomtiger11 | paultag: and honestly i didnt know about cloaks until 5 seconds ago or near bouts | 19:15 |
| tomtiger11 | charlie-tca: i have looked at what i get, and how i join | 19:17 |
| tomtiger11 | charlie-tca: and i probaly wont use the cloaks, but id use the rest | 19:18 |
| bdmurray | so depressing | 19:18 |
| bdmurray | I found a ubiquity bug with 36 duplicates! | 19:18 |
| charlie-tca | ouch | 19:18 |
| charlie-tca | That is depressing | 19:18 |
| bdmurray | But wait that's only 2.4% of the total | 19:18 |
| tomtiger11 | bdmurray: really? | 19:18 |
| bdmurray | so still lots more work to do | 19:18 |
| tomtiger11 | bdmurray: have you ever been called a nerd, because i have. | 19:19 |
| paultag | hahahaha | 19:20 |
| paultag | bdmurray: nerd. | 19:20 |
| paultag | There, now he has | 19:20 |
| charlie-tca | heh | 19:20 |
| charlie-tca | That's funny | 19:20 |
| tomtiger11 | paultag: nerd | 19:20 |
| paultag | tomtiger11: how old are you, by chance? You read like someone under the age of 17 | 19:20 |
| paultag | tomtiger11: dude, I went to public school. I've been called worse things by better people :) | 19:21 |
| roadmr | bdmurray: I think bug 784442 has been wrongly set as a duplicate of bug 743359 | 19:21 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 784442 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu install fails (dup-of: 743359)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/784442 | 19:21 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 743359 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 1 other project) "Installer: LockFailedException: Failed to lock /target/var/cache/apt/archives/lock (affects: 45) (dups: 36) (heat: 316)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/743359 | 19:21 |
| tomtiger11 | paultag: why the hell would i tell you my age | 19:21 |
| tomtiger11 | charlie-tca: by chance, what does the red nick mean? | 19:21 |
| roadmr | 784442 has a syslog that a user with another problem attached, and the dupe status was set based on that, but it's not the original reporter's syslog | 19:21 |
| paultag | tomtiger11: because you read like someone under 18, and generally I stay away from them. Also, might want to check out ubuntu-youth, they are a group of kids. Might help :) | 19:22 |
| bdmurray | roadmr: okay unmark it | 19:22 |
| roadmr | bdmurray: ok, will do, thanks | 19:22 |
| bdmurray | I didn't check for squashfs-error tags when marking those dupes | 19:22 |
| tomtiger11 | paultag: i never read well on the internet, whats the point? | 19:22 |
| charlie-tca | tomtiger11: it is the color your irc client uses for that nick | 19:23 |
| paultag | No point. I'm off. Have a nice day :) | 19:23 |
| tomtiger11 | bdmurray: how do i change the status of a bug? | 19:23 |
| charlie-tca | Usually those of us who are older don't mind telling ages | 19:23 |
| charlie-tca | tomtiger11: is the red nick a highlighted nick or just normal? | 19:24 |
| tomtiger11 | charlie-tca: Id rather not start an irc argument | 19:24 |
| charlie-tca | Is it the only nick in a different color? | 19:24 |
| tomtiger11 | charlie-tca: ^ is normal | 19:24 |
| charlie-tca | Are all the other nicks one color? | 19:25 |
| tomtiger11 | charlie-tca: but the one above that is red | 19:25 |
| tomtiger11 | charlie-tca: yes, but yours and pauls is red | 19:25 |
| charlie-tca | Most of the clients will color nicks to let you see them rapidly | 19:25 |
| charlie-tca | that's all it is | 19:25 |
| charlie-tca | Unless it only shows red when I give your name | 19:26 |
| tomtiger11 | charlie-tca: i dont think mine does that | 19:26 |
| charlie-tca | tomtiger11: did this go red? | 19:26 |
| tomtiger11 | charlie-tca: yes | 19:26 |
| charlie-tca | or do all the lines from me go red? | 19:26 |
| charlie-tca | It is telling you someone wrote directly to your nick | 19:26 |
| tomtiger11 | charlie-tca: just that one that you said my name on | 19:26 |
| charlie-tca | That is called a highlight | 19:27 |
| tomtiger11 | charlie-tca: ok! | 19:27 |
| charlie-tca | It is to get your attention | 19:27 |
| tomtiger11 | charlie-tca: i know that but it could have been different | 19:27 |
| tomtiger11 | charlie-tca: ok, guys ive got to go | 19:27 |
| tomtiger11 | charlie-tca: il talk tomorrow (GMT) | 19:27 |
| charlie-tca | okay, have fun | 19:28 |
| tomtiger11 | bye | 19:28 |
| tomtiger11 | =] | 19:28 |
| paultag | someone's pre-pubesent | 19:28 |
| paultag | Oh crap, did not mean to write that out loud. /clear | 19:28 |
| charlie-tca | heh | 19:28 |
| * charlie-tca hates when he talks out loud by accident | 19:29 | |
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| hggdh | now, that one was an interesting dialog | 19:50 |
| * hggdh is happy to have been elsewhere | 19:50 | |
| roadmr | but you still got to read it - best of both worlds | 19:51 |
| hggdh | yes! | 19:55 |
| yofel | does someone know why the debian-installer apport-hook doesn't collect /var/log/installer/* ? | 19:55 |
| hggdh | yofel: /var/log/installer/ is only created after the install completes. Maybe because of that? | 19:58 |
| yofel | well, I wanted to file a bug about the installer *after* install, wouldn't the installer logs be usefull? | 19:58 |
| hggdh | then yes, certainly | 19:58 |
| hggdh | and, stoipping to think about it, I doubt apport would be able to run *during* install... bdmurray ^? | 19:59 |
| bdmurray | hggdh: could you repeat the question fully? | 20:00 |
| hggdh | bdmurray: why the apport hook for debian-installer does not collect /var/log/installer? | 20:01 |
| bdmurray | hggdh: I don't have an answer but do know how to fix it | 20:03 |
| hggdh | yofel: ^ :-) | 20:04 |
| yofel | :) | 20:04 |
| hggdh | bdmurray: so you will do it, or should I? | 20:09 |
| bdmurray | I'll do it | 20:09 |
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