[00:28] <paultag> czajkowski: heyya ma'am
[00:28] <paultag> czajkowski: here now
[00:38] <jcastro> hey popey
[00:39] <jcastro> any questions/comments from my segment last week? Like, any follow up questions from the audience or anything I need to address?
[00:47] <doctormo> pleia2: What do you think of this guide blog entry? http://doctormo.org/2011/08/02/spreadsheet-awesome-check-mark-totals/
[00:48] <doctormo> Is it good to post to planet the day after tomorrow?
[00:49] <pleia2> doctormo: that's great
[00:50] <doctormo> Thanks for the review :-)
[00:50] <doctormo> How's your week going?
[00:51] <pleia2> doctormo: surviving :) you?
[00:53] <doctormo> Having fun with a virus thing, blood pressure that could kill a rhino and earning money slowly from my contract. First time in 2 years since being ejected from Canonical that I've got some income :-D
[00:53] <doctormo> So some good, some bad.
[00:58] <pleia2> now we'll call you pt<tab>
[00:58] <doctormo> ptagliamonte: When you next in Boston?
[00:58] <ptagliamonte> pleia2: I'm hiding
[00:58] <ptagliamonte> doctormo: I'm here now :)
[00:58] <doctormo> Where
[00:58]  * doctormo looks left and then right
[00:59] <ptagliamonte> doctormo: swells
[00:59] <ptagliamonte> doctormo: I got back from brighton, had some sushi
[00:59] <doctormo> Where is swells? Down town?
[00:59] <ptagliamonte> doctormo: oh, no. S'Wellesley :)
[00:59] <doctormo> That's not Boston!
[00:59] <ptagliamonte> doctormo: we called it the sweels growing up :)
[00:59] <ptagliamonte> doctormo: "greater boston area"
[01:00] <doctormo> The "greater boston area" seems to include most of Vermont and Connecticut too.
[01:00] <ptagliamonte> doctormo: meh :)
[01:00] <pleia2> and Maine!
[01:00] <ptagliamonte> and Maine! :)
[01:01] <doctormo> ptagliamonte: Let me know when your in a larger, but not so greater boston area. Cambridge, Somervile, Dorchester, JP or Boston.
[01:02] <ptagliamonte> doctormo: sure 'nuf
[01:03] <ptagliamonte> pleia2: -- http://i.imgur.com/Js2qJ.jpg -- :)
[01:04] <pleia2> nice :)
[01:08] <hggdh> jcastro: we need to sync a bit on the upstream candidates for -control
[01:08] <hggdh> :-)
[01:10] <jcastro> oh?
[01:10] <jcastro> pleia2: that's awesome
[01:11] <jcastro> someone did these throwback posters for the trilogy too
[01:12] <jcastro> http://markstoreyart.blogspot.com/2010/12/mondo-star-wars-saga-movie-posters.html
[01:12] <pleia2> jcastro: so our sales guy sent me my talk on USB, it's not as horrible as I expected, uplo[D[D[D[Dading to youtube
[01:12] <jcastro> oh cool!
[01:12] <pleia2> (also, laggy ssh because I'm uploading to youtube)
[01:14] <jcastro> hggdh: what's up?
[01:15] <hggdh> jcastro: the calumind candidate that I had just declined...
[01:15] <jcastro> eh?
[01:15] <jcastro> how come?
[01:15] <jcastro> I was just talking to him
[01:18] <hggdh> I declined him a few hours before you approved him
[01:18] <jcastro> oh
[01:18] <jcastro> he's upstream deluge whose triaging deluge bugs
[01:18] <jcastro> I told him his boundaries, etc.
[01:18] <hggdh> oh, no, the point is I should not have declined him
[01:19] <hggdh> I usually leave proposals without the email to -control hanging for a few day, on the chance it might be from one upstream
[01:19] <jcastro> oh
[01:19] <jcastro> usually the wiki instructions say "and if you're an upstream go find jorge"
[01:19] <jcastro> which he did in chat about an hour ago
[01:19] <mhall119> jcastro: missing your first ubuntu-fl team meeting, for shame
[01:19] <jcastro> mhall119: I'm idling
[01:20] <hggdh> jcastro: yes, he did it *after* I declined -- so I guess it was good
[01:20] <hggdh> we are cool, man
[01:20] <jcastro> whew I thought you were going to yell at me for approving him
[01:20] <hggdh> c'mon, man, why would I do that?
[01:20] <jcastro> well, I suppose he'll be fine until popey deletes his account
[01:20] <hggdh> LOL
[01:21]  * jcastro gives up on this formula for now
[01:21] <jcastro> man, CPAN.
[01:21] <jcastro> nuff said
[01:21] <hggdh> indeed
[01:34] <Daviey> jcastro: Surely if you /really/ want to use alice trunk, you can still use the archive deps?
[01:34] <Daviey> so you don't need cpan?
[01:41] <jcastro> Daviey: that's exactly what I am trying to figure out
[01:41] <jcastro> my problem was I couldn't figure out what packages corresponded to it's deps
[01:41] <jcastro> but then I said "WAIT, daviey had to had figured this out for the packages"
[01:42] <jcastro> so I was just doing that
[01:42] <jcastro> Daviey: ec2 is so slow, I need LXC, heh
[01:43] <jcastro> it's like, I don't have time to wait for the stupid instance
[01:44] <Daviey> heh
[01:49] <Daviey> jcastro: check the deps of the package.. there are a few :P
[01:49] <jcastro> I did
[01:49] <jcastro> a few not in 11.04 too
[01:50] <Daviey> perl, libany-moose-perl, libanyevent-dbi-perl, libanyevent-http-perl, libanyevent-irc-perl, libanyevent-perl, libdbd-sqlite3-perl, libfile-sharedir-perl, libirc-formatting-html-perl, libjson-perl , liblist-moreutils-perl, libplack-middleware-session-perl, libplack-perl, libsql-abstract-perl, libtext-microtemplate-perl, libtry-tiny-perl, twiggy
[01:50] <jcastro> twiggy isn't in 11.04
[01:50] <jcastro> and some others but I sorted it
[01:50] <Daviey> jcastro: they are all *now* in Oneiric
[01:50] <jcastro> yeah, but the images are 11.04
[01:50] <Daviey> as of 5 mins ago
[01:50] <jcastro> nice!
[01:50] <Daviey> jcastro: well who uses THAT?
[01:50] <jcastro> heh
[06:19] <jono> heading to bed, back in a few
[06:19] <jono> night all!
[06:19] <dpm> morning all
[06:25] <nigelb> morning!
[08:16] <kim0> Morning all
[08:20] <duanedesign> o/
[08:32] <ejat> morning ..
[13:40] <maco> pleia2: i dont see the launchpad example as upstream. if we didnt have launchpad we'd...have bugzilla and github
[13:41] <maco> its a tool. just because canonical decided to roll their own doesn't, IMO, make it *part* of ubuntu
[13:42] <maco> ubiquity is my example of "pretty clearly part of ubuntu with no alternate upstream" where id count the contributions as part of ubuntu.
[13:43] <maco> jcastro: <czajkowski> jcastro: you work with the Ubuntu community so eh that counts    <-- hell, if you *don't* work with the community at all but do lots of tech, you won't get membership
[13:43] <maco> its the community involvement that i see as the absolute requirement
[13:44] <maco> (i know im really really late, but i wasnt online after work)
[13:45] <maco> czajkowski: with the DMB, what we do if there's a "could get in if there was one more person here" is take it to the mailing list after the meeting.  the Americas RMB tends to be unanimous on most stuff though, so it hasnt had to do that since I joined
[13:46] <maco> DMB considers quorum enough to approve but not enough to veto
[13:47] <czajkowski> maco: right but we had enough for the meeting to go ahead, should we go to a ml every time we need one more +1 ?
[13:47] <maco> thats what we do
[13:47] <czajkowski> it leads to going down a rocky path
[13:47] <maco> it doesn't happen frequently, mind
[13:50] <maco> Upstart is used in both Ubuntu and ChromeOS, and AIUI Google's started to do some dev on it (what with Keybuk and all...) so now that it's a more-than-just-Ubuntu thing, I don't think I'd be as inclined to count at as not-really-upstream
[14:24] <kim0> huats: wrt the openstack docs, can we get the PDF doc in a ready-to-publish quality soonish ?
[14:24] <kim0> I'd love to push it asap :)
[14:26] <huats> kim0, I am doing it before tonight
[14:26] <kim0> awesome!
[14:26] <huats> well I'll start and I give you the result :)
[14:27] <kim0> I hope the output PDF will look nice .. I trust sphinx though :)
[14:58] <jcastro> we have a call today right?
[15:01] <jono> jcastro, dpm, kim0 all set?
[15:01] <jcastro> nod
[15:01]  * kim0 nods
[15:03] <jono> kim0, invite sent
[15:23] <jcastro> https://www.desktopsummit.org/
[15:55] <paultag> Boohyeah. First contribution to pkg-java-maint in Debian.
[15:57] <h00k> Pardon me asking...does this involve the public (non-Canonical) teams as well? For instance, a LoCo contact?
[15:57] <h00k> (this channel, apologies)
[15:57] <jcastro> h00k: sure hang out!
[15:57] <paultag> h00k: it's mostly for community teams to sync with eachother, it's open to anyone, but you might find it dull some times :)
[15:58] <paultag> kim0: but yeah, totally :)
[15:58] <paultag> Oh jeez
[15:58] <paultag> sorry kim0
[15:58] <h00k> paultag: it's just another idle number on my list of open channels ;)
[15:58] <h00k> jcastro: cool, alrighty.
[15:58] <h00k> I saw it mentioned, figured I'd check it out.
[15:58] <kim0> :)
[15:59] <h00k> (we were talking about it in -ops-team)
[16:00] <paultag> sounds like a community-team to me :)
[16:00] <h00k> yep, that too.
[16:02] <IdleOne> jono: y u never call me?
[16:03] <h00k> IdleOne: I'll call you. I'll call you 'guy who should bring me coffee'
[16:03] <IdleOne> h00k: I have experience in waiter type duties
[16:03] <IdleOne> cream and sugar?
[16:03] <h00k> nothanks!
[16:04] <topyli> IdleOne: i knew there was a place for you!
[16:04] <h00k> doho
[16:04] <IdleOne> Do you have one of our CoffeeCards, buy 400 and get 1 free?
[16:05] <IdleOne> topyli: no more freebies for you sir :(
[16:05] <maco> h00k: its also often offtopic
[16:05] <topyli> it's too big for my suitcase :(
[16:05] <h00k> I make copies, I purchased your special hole-punch and make my own.
[16:14] <h00k> maco: wooo!
[16:15] <h00k> jcastro: you'd be one to ask (I tweeted you that one day about deleting articles, you'd be happy, etc), but there's an article https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mac_mini which is irrelevant because it deals with 7.10. Delete?
[16:16] <paultag> h00k: you can poke the doc guys about that :)
[16:16] <paultag> h.u.c is maintained by thems :)
[16:16] <huats> kim0, I have been trying to build the pdf, but there is a bug on the generator :(
[16:16] <huats> I need to look closely at it
[16:27] <kim0> huats: mm ok, I hope it's not an ugly one
[16:28] <huats> kim0, I am not sure really...
[16:28] <huats> I'll try using the latest version (not packaged yet)
[17:17] <czajkowski> maco: who moderates developer-membership-board-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com
[17:17] <maco> czajkowski: all of us
[17:18] <maco> something stuck right now?
[17:18]  * maco looks
[17:18] <czajkowski> yup
[17:18] <czajkowski> mine
[17:19] <maco> done
[17:19] <czajkowski> maco: thanks
[17:19] <maco> the "something's pending" email hadnt even gone out yet
[17:19] <czajkowski> :)
[17:42] <nigelb> does any one have the partner repo entry handy?
[17:42]  * nigelb messed his sources.list
[17:46] <jcastro> <--- late lunchin'
[17:46] <jcastro> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu oneiric partner
[17:46] <jcastro> deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu oneiric partner
[17:46] <jcastro> nigelb: ^
[17:46] <jcastro> natty of course
[17:50] <nigelb> jcastro: Thanks!
[19:44] <jcastro> nigelb: got a minute?
[19:49] <jcastro> cjohnston: or you
[19:50] <nigelb> jcastro: yeah
[19:50] <nigelb> jcastro: what's up?
[19:51] <jcastro> ok
[19:51] <jcastro> https://www.desktopsummit.org/
[19:51] <jcastro> see that sponsor bar on the right?
[19:51] <jcastro> the vertical one with the logos
[19:51] <nigelb> yeah
[19:51] <nigelb> want something like that?
[19:51] <jcastro> I would like to put something like that on the uds.u.c home page (just the home page)
[19:51] <jcastro> yeah
[19:51] <jcastro> but like, the photos mess me up and it ends up looking stupid
[19:51] <jcastro> like I want to just tack it to the right
[19:52] <jcastro> and then shift the whole thing so it's centered
[19:52] <nigelb> this is on uds.ubuntu.com?
[19:52] <nigelb> ah, yes
[19:53] <nigelb> jcastro: err, I didn't understand the bit about tack right
[19:53] <jcastro> basically just have it running along the right border
[19:53] <jcastro> where the dots are
[19:54] <jcastro> or would it look better if it was within the column
[19:54] <nigelb> that's going to be harder than you thin,
[19:54] <nigelb> *think
[19:54] <jcastro> and the pictures shrunk?
[19:54] <nigelb> we can increase the width and stick it in there
[19:54] <nigelb> or yeah, shrink the pictures
[19:54] <nigelb> (sorry its 1:30 am local time, I may be slow)
[19:55] <jcastro> it's ok!
[19:59] <nigelb> jcastro: If I get some time, I can do something in firebug over the week and give you a screenshot
[19:59] <jcastro> it's ok I'll mess with it
[20:22] <jcastro> aha!
[20:22] <jcastro> https://uds.ubuntu.com/
[20:22] <jcastro> check it out yo
[20:25] <huats> kim0, are you around ?
[20:26] <huats> jcastro, I got a not found page
[20:26] <huats> (on the frontpage)
[20:28] <jcastro> works for me, can someone else confirm?
[20:28] <Pici> 'Apologies, but we were unable to find what you were looking for. Perhaps searching will help.'
[20:29] <maco> not found
[20:29]  * huats feels less lonely :)
[20:29] <jcastro> oh oops
[20:29] <jcastro> try now
[20:29] <huats> way better :)
[20:29] <Pici> Much better
[20:38] <jcastro> jono: are you sitting down?
[20:38] <jono> jcastro, yep
[20:38] <jcastro> jono: hetfield turned _48_ today.
[20:38] <jono> jcastro, that is insane
[20:39] <jono> I was thinking about this today - my brother in law's gf is 21 - the year she was born...Home Alone came out
[20:39] <jcastro> lol
[20:47] <pleia2> jono: the individual RMB lists are going away, you want ubuntu-membership-boards@lists.ubuntu.com
[20:47] <pleia2> (the individual ones are slated to be disabled, no one has done it yet)
[20:48] <pleia2> but they're not maintained and new members aren't on them
[20:49] <jono> pleia2, ahhh thanks
[20:50] <jono> pleia2, I added them to the thread
[20:50] <pleia2> thanks :)
[20:50] <pleia2> added your address to accepts
[20:50] <jono> pleia2, could you approve me as a sender on that list?
[20:50] <jono> thanks!
[20:58] <huats> kim0, the creation of openstackbook is OK, using the latest available tarballs
[20:59] <huats> kim0, and they are on oneiric, so I'll try to build it there soon
[20:59] <huats> but the result is not very good yet... I'll try to figure out what I can do since we can use templates...
[21:00] <huats> jono, you should think that kind of fact (HomeAlone) you hurts everyone around :)
[21:01] <huats> jono, sorry, I meant : "you shouldn't think to ..."
[21:08] <kim0> huats: we're making good progress then :)
[21:10] <huats> kim0, indeed
[21:10] <kim0> \o/
[21:10] <huats> kim0, not really an easy way but a way :)
[21:11] <kim0> huats: awesome stuff, rock n roll
[21:12]  * kim0 jumps back to real life
[23:17] <h00k> kim0: what is this 'real life' you speak of