| cnd | bjf: from lpltk.service import LaunchpadService | 00:06 |
|---|---|---|
| cnd | ImportError: No module named service | 00:06 |
| cnd | any ideas? | 00:06 |
| bjf | cnd, yes, you want "from lpltk.LaunchpadService import LaunchpadService" | 00:07 |
| cnd | ok | 00:07 |
| cnd | bjf, I'm getting really antsy cause I can't figure this out :) | 00:27 |
| cnd | I see setters in lpltk | 00:27 |
| cnd | but not everything I need has one | 00:27 |
| cnd | so I looked at the setter code and I see things being set and a function called lp_save() being called | 00:27 |
| cnd | but I can't find where lp_save is defined | 00:27 |
| bjf | cnd, that could be the case, it's mostly implemented what we've wanted for working on bugs | 00:27 |
| cnd | in lpltk and python-launchpadlib | 00:28 |
| bjf | cnd, ok, one sec | 00:28 |
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| cnd | in fact, the whole launchpadlib source code doesn't make sense to me :) | 00:29 |
| === jk-- is now known as jk- | ||
| bjf | cnd, if you look at the "status" setter for a BugTask, it is calling self.lp_bug_task.lp_save() that lp_save() is part of the lp api, not the lpltk, it is using the raw LP object | 00:30 |
| cnd | yeah, and that raw LP object is from launchpadlib I assume? | 00:30 |
| bjf | cnd, yes | 00:30 |
| cnd | so I went over to launchpadlib to see if I could find out where lp_save is and what else I can set | 00:31 |
| cnd | but it doesn't make a lot of sense to me | 00:31 |
| bjf | cnd, not everything is documented | 00:31 |
| bjf | cnd, even for the launchpad library | 00:31 |
| cnd | yeah | 00:31 |
| cnd | ok, I might be starting to understand it | 00:33 |
| cnd | it's just heavily abstracted | 00:33 |
| jk- | ... and heavily dynamic | 00:34 |
| jk- | cnd: `print bug.lp_attributes` is handy | 00:35 |
| cnd | ok | 00:35 |
| bjf | jk-, are you using the lpltk or the straight lp api? | 00:36 |
| jk- | or <any lp object>.{lp_attributes,lp_collections,lp_entries} | 00:37 |
| jk- | bjf: ah, just straight lp api | 00:37 |
| bjf | jk-, right, that doesn't work with the lpltk unless you get to the raw lp object in the wrapper | 00:37 |
| cnd | jk-, how do I manipulate an lp object? | 00:42 |
| cnd | lets say I want to create a project | 00:42 |
| cnd | I may have figured it out | 00:43 |
| jk- | cnd: I've only queried LP myself :/ | 00:44 |
| cnd | ok | 00:44 |
| jk- | seen https://help.launchpad.net/API ? | 00:44 |
| jk- | particularly https://help.launchpad.net/API/launchpadlib | 00:45 |
| jk- | me = people['my-user-name'] | 00:46 |
| jk- | me.display_name = 'A user who edits through the Launchpad web service.' | 00:46 |
| jk- | me.lp_save() | 00:46 |
| jk- | but again, this is all launchpadlib objects, not lpltk. | 00:46 |
| cnd | yeah, I'm trying to figure out how to create new objects | 00:47 |
| cnd | to set up a test env | 00:47 |
| cnd | on qastaging | 00:47 |
| cnd | it doesn't appear that many people have wanted to do this before :) | 00:47 |
| cnd | I see that there's a method new_project | 00:49 |
| cnd | but I don't know what its signature is | 00:49 |
| cnd | it's rather opaque, and there's no docs that I can find... | 00:49 |
| bjf | cnd, looks like you need the lp projects collection | 00:50 |
| cnd | I may have figured it out by finding a snippet through google :) | 00:51 |
| cnd | http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:TepAzI2pmu0J:people.canonical.com/~bryce/arsenal_lib.py+launchpadlib+%22new_bug%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com | 00:51 |
| cnd | grep for new_bug | 00:51 |
| jk- | cnd: print new_project.__doc__ ? | 00:51 |
| bjf | cnd, you may be better off sticking with the straight LP api, you could look at "close-eol-nominations" in kteam-tools/bugs for an example | 00:53 |
| cnd | yeah | 00:54 |
| rokr1 | Hello there ! | 02:43 |
| rokr1 | I am trying to install Mainline 3.0 in Linux kernel from ubuntu repository | 02:43 |
| rokr1 | current version seems 3.0-oneiric | 02:44 |
| rokr1 | I am running natty 64bit | 02:44 |
| rokr1 | desktop | 02:44 |
| rokr1 | I would like to know if the new mainline version of kernel 3.0 supports XEN dom0 natively ? | 02:45 |
| rokr1 | I hope the .deb packages are generic | 02:45 |
| rokr1 | lamot u there ? | 02:46 |
| rokr1 | sorry lamont* | 02:46 |
| rokr1 | does kernel 3.0-oneiric support XEN dom0 | 02:50 |
| rokr1 | ? | 02:50 |
| rokr1 | Just installed 3.0 about restart please advise | 02:52 |
| rokr1 | I am about to restart the machine ! | 02:52 |
| rokr1 | bye | 02:52 |
| jk- | CONFIG_XEN_DOM0=y | 02:53 |
| jk- | -ETIMEDOUT | 02:53 |
| rokr1 | back after a reboot now on 3.0-oneiric | 02:56 |
| rokr1 | kernel | 02:56 |
| jk- | <jk-> CONFIG_XEN_DOM0=y | 02:56 |
| jk- | ^ rokr1 | 02:56 |
| rokr1 | is it enabled by default ? | 02:56 |
| jk- | that's the default config | 02:56 |
| jk- | so yes | 02:56 |
| rokr1 | Oh okay | 02:56 |
| rokr1 | thanks jk | 02:57 |
| * jk- has no idea what else is required | 02:57 | |
| rokr1 | will be back once if I have a question bye for now! | 02:59 |
| * apw yawns | 07:22 | |
| jk- | hey apw | 07:32 |
| apw | jk- heya | 07:32 |
| * smb crawls in | 08:01 | |
| * apw waves to smb | 08:01 | |
| smb | apw, mornin | 08:01 |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| cooloney | morning apw and smb | 09:43 |
| apw | cooloney, moin | 09:43 |
| smb | cooloney, morning | 09:43 |
| cooloney | apw and smb, did you guys try the onieric for MAC? | 09:44 |
| cooloney | which is the same kernel as amd64? | 09:45 |
| smb | cooloney, What makes you think we even got a MAC | 09:45 |
| cooloney | smb: oh, i found a special ISO for mac on cdimage.ubuntu.com | 09:45 |
| cooloney | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ | 09:46 |
| smb | cooloney, For which you would want to use the right hardware, no? ;) | 09:46 |
| cooloney | smb: you know, i had a macbook pro and maybe test the iso on my mac | 09:48 |
| apw | cooloney, yep you need a special iso cause mac efi is sooooo broken | 09:49 |
| smb | cooloney, You are free to do, but I have not a single piece ow hardware with an apple on it | 09:49 |
| apw | does anyone know if it is possible that a machine with wireless is not capable of doing wpa ? | 09:49 |
| smb | apw, Think that is possible | 09:49 |
| apw | is it a hardware feature | 09:50 |
| cooloney | apw: ming lei or ikepanhc might know that, heh | 09:50 |
| apw | oh dear | 09:50 |
| smb | With old wireless chipsets... | 09:50 |
| apw | poor t30 | 09:50 |
| * ikepanhc ah? | 09:50 | |
| smb | apw, But I thought wpa_supplicant worked around that to some degree.. | 09:50 |
| cooloney | apw: are you still using t30? | 09:50 |
| ohsix | it depends on the drivers too | 09:51 |
| apw | cooloney, i have one lying about as its tooo crap to run unity, so it defaults to unity-2d | 09:51 |
| ohsix | mac80211 drivers generally can do "anything", barring bizarre hw edge cases | 09:51 |
| ikepanhc | it must be a very old wifi chips, since 802.11i has announced for at least 5y | 09:52 |
| * smb wonders that a t30 should be able to do wpa... His t21 could... | 09:52 | |
| ikepanhc | t30 should, I once have a x31, it works fine with wpa, I think they are about the same year | 09:53 |
| apw | ikepanhc, hmmm ok ... it has a prism chipset | 09:54 |
| apw | and is only offering me password options for non-wpa levels oddly | 09:54 |
| ikepanhc | apw: which machine? | 09:54 |
| ikepanhc | and with ubuntu? | 09:54 |
| apw | ikepanhc, it is a t30 and with natty yes | 09:56 |
| * ikepanhc checking | 09:56 | |
| apw | only the SO is allowed to have windows, and only then cause screaming and crying didn't persuade them otherwise | 09:56 |
| apw | well i plugged in some external thing that rtg gave me, and that just selects wpa correctly for my network | 09:59 |
| apw | i suspect the prism can't do it, i guess it might be cause i have selected tkip | 09:59 |
| smb | apw, Yeah, I think prism was "special"... | 10:00 |
| apw | you mean that it was and is a POS ? | 10:00 |
| smb | apw, My memory may be wrong, but I think it had a special driver (not softmac) which did not do that and probably is not maintained much anymore... | 10:02 |
| apw | yay, fun, joy, BAH | 10:03 |
| ikepanhc | apw: for you reference: http://lists.shmoo.com/pipermail/hostap/2010-April/021329.html seems there are several drivers for Intersil prism 2.5 and not all of them supported wpa | 10:06 |
| apw | yay | 10:07 |
| apw | ikepanhc, thanks, i suspect it is too shite to believe, i will therefore assume it cannot do it | 10:07 |
| apw | anyone owned one of those | 10:07 |
| apw | nano USB adapters that actually worked ok ? | 10:07 |
| smb | I had one small but its currently on rental and I do not remember what chipset... | 10:08 |
| smb | but it worked ok | 10:08 |
| apw | you mean you have loaned it to someone ? | 10:08 |
| ikepanhc | I am glad that I can help | 10:09 |
| smb | apw, Yeah, to my brother in exchange to his seemingly broken (in Linux) one | 10:09 |
| apw | they always do that, you end up with piles of junk which don't work for you and all the good stuff is gone | 10:10 |
| smb | apw, Though it turned out its only broken in the sense that it lies about connection speed | 10:10 |
| apw | oh so its working fine, just saying 0mb all the time | 10:10 |
| smb | Yeah, 1Mbit but exactly | 10:10 |
| smb | Still runs at higher speed but you only can see that deeply hidden in debugfs | 10:11 |
| smb | apw, Though I may fix that when I have nothing else to do... Well clearly that is about to happen ... not soon | 10:12 |
| apw | right two random nano wireless thingies which claim to support linux purchased | 10:18 |
| === chuck_ is now known as zul | ||
| tgardner | apw, I notice Mario has uploaded dkms. | 12:43 |
| lilstevie | just wondering if security_yama and security_smack are required | 13:39 |
| ogra_ | did you guys rework the enforcer parts of the packages ? | 13:53 |
| ogra_ | (if so, is there a wikipage or some other doc that lists why something is needed, so we know if we need to patch third party kernels because userspace requires a feature patch) | 13:54 |
| tgardner | ogra_, what config option is bothering you? | 13:55 |
| ogra_ | tgardner, well, lilstevie is just rolling a galaxy tab kernel for an ubuntu image and the enforcer wants things like aufs, security_yama and security_smack | 13:56 |
| ogra_ | as you can guess he uses the ubuntu package infrastructure | 13:56 |
| tgardner | well, we tune these config options for the distro and not necessarily for an embedded system | 13:57 |
| ogra_ | its not "embedded" | 13:58 |
| ogra_ | :) | 13:58 |
| ogra_ | its not different to the pandaboard | 13:58 |
| ogra_ | which is rather atom class | 13:58 |
| tgardner | ogra_, ok, then what is the issue? you want to disable them ? | 13:58 |
| ogra_ | and he rolls a normal unity-2d ubuntu desktop image for it | 13:58 |
| ogra_ | tgardner, i wonder if we have documentation anywhere why what is needed so i can go through the enforcer file and drop things for non ubuntu maintained kernels (missing aufs for a non live system wont do harm for example, but people need to know that its only for this) | 13:59 |
| tgardner | ogra_, there is probably a rationale somewhere. ogasawara, do you have this in our config review spec ? | 14:00 |
| ogra_ | ... if no userspace makes any use of security_yama and security_smack i wouldnt want to patch a 2.6.29 BSP kernel i package for universe to have it (and having to maintain that patch) | 14:00 |
| ogasawara | tgardner, ogra_: nope, I don't recall we've documented the config enforcer in any or our wikis or specs | 14:01 |
| lilstevie | Well I just want to know what are the absolute required patches | 14:01 |
| ogasawara | tgardner, ogra_: I think some of the configs being enforced have a comment in the file itself for why it's there, otherwise one would likely have to parse the git history | 14:01 |
| ogra_ | lilstevie, my ac100 works fine without security_yama and security_smack on oneiric | 14:01 |
| tgardner | lilstevie, I think anything in the ubuntu directory is optional since its not part of mainline. aufs, yama, etc... | 14:01 |
| lilstevie | yeah I am working fine without yama and smack | 14:02 |
| lilstevie | I am just wondering if there is any reason that I may not be seeing | 14:02 |
| ogra_ | ubuntu should generally be able to run with mainline kernels | 14:03 |
| ogra_ | the ubuntu patches are usually fo special features (i.e. aufs -> livecd) | 14:03 |
| tgardner | ogra_, apparmor will complain a little, but things will still work | 14:03 |
| lilstevie | and we don't have a live cd on arm do we? | 14:04 |
| lilstevie | tgardner: well I have apparmor | 14:04 |
| ogra_ | hmm, it doesnt complain here on an up to date oneiric | 14:04 |
| kees | ogra_, lilstevie: running without Yama will open a system up to a few classes of security vulnerabilities, so I would recommend keeping it. | 14:04 |
| lilstevie | kees: it isn't available in my kernel | 14:04 |
| lilstevie | this is why I am wondering | 14:04 |
| ogra_ | kees, "keeping" isnt the discussion point ;) | 14:04 |
| kees | ogra_: oh, I have misunderstood, then. :) | 14:05 |
| lilstevie | Yama and Smack are not available in my kernel | 14:05 |
| ogra_ | its an older kernel version (as BSP kernels usually are) that misses such features | 14:05 |
| ogra_ | to be packaged in universe for a certain device | 14:05 |
| kees | nothing in the default ubuntu userspace uses smack, so that's fine. | 14:06 |
| * ogasawara back in 20 | 14:06 | |
| ogra_ | great :) | 14:06 |
| kees | there are a few regression tests that will fail if Yama is missing, and while a few things are tuned to work with Yama, they will operate fine without it. | 14:06 |
| lilstevie | ok that is good to know | 14:07 |
| ogra_ | lilstevie, so i would look how much effort adding yama is :) | 14:07 |
| lilstevie | yeah | 14:07 |
| lilstevie | kees: is this all there is to yama http://codereview.chromium.org/6677065 | 14:10 |
| lilstevie | if so that isn't too bad | 14:10 |
| kees | lilstevie: it's small, yeah. the "current" set of patches is as mentioned from that url, in my git tree: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=kees/linux-2.6.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/yama | 14:15 |
| jmburgess | Hey kernel team. I have two bugs that I think are ready to be marked as triaged. Can anybody look them over for me? I'm new | 14:16 |
| jmburgess | Bug 565543 and 814426 | 14:16 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 565543 in linux "Alps touchpad detected as ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse(in VAIO E series) after the kernel upgrade" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/565543 | 14:17 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 814426 in linux "Natty Narwhal Crackling Sound" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/814426 | 14:17 |
| lilstevie | actually smack seems pretty easy to implement too | 14:17 |
| charlie-tca | jmburgess: looking | 14:19 |
| jmburgess | Thanks charlie-tca | 14:19 |
| kees | lilstevie: smack should just be a CONFIG_* option, iirc. | 14:20 |
| charlie-tca | jmburgess: Done; very nice work on those | 14:20 |
| charlie-tca | Thanks for helping with those bugs. | 14:20 |
| lilstevie | kees: heh yeah, smack is implemented in kernel, just not refered to in the makefile or Kconfig | 14:21 |
| lilstevie | I just didn't notice before | 14:21 |
| jmburgess | charlie-tca, :) glad I can help | 14:23 |
| charlie-tca | kernel bugs are difficult to work. It is good to have some help with them | 14:23 |
| Q-FUNK | Greetings! It seems that I have a serious regression in Oneiric since kernel 3.0 that has forced me to revert to 2.6.38. | 15:32 |
| Q-FUNK | I'd love to report it, except that 'ubuntu-bug linux-image-3.0.0-7-generic' would obviously attach the wrong boot logs. Any ideas on how to work around that? | 15:33 |
| apw | Q-FUNK, i think it doesn't attach the running ones if you use a binary like that | 15:57 |
| * smb -> away | 16:03 | |
| * herton -> lunch | 16:04 | |
| Q-FUNK | apw: could be. any other way to get the log from the previous boot, to shot what crashed? | 16:10 |
| apw | nothing in syslog? and it crashes hard ? | 16:14 |
| Q-FUNK | it freezes half-way thru the boot. it already started misbehaving during the 2.6.39, but it was fairly random at that time. mostly odd segfaults whenever running dpkg. with 3.0, it's nearly systematic. | 16:16 |
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| === ogasawara_ is now known as ogasawara | ||
| apw | Q-FUNK, and booting without splash vthandoff and adding debug wahts that look like | 17:15 |
| Q-FUNK | apw: I'm probably missing half of your sentence? | 17:15 |
| apw | i am trying to work out what level of kernel loggin is visible when you are booting | 17:16 |
| apw | therefore i am asking if you have disabled splash etc and turned on debug | 17:16 |
| apw | Q-FUNK, ^^ | 17:20 |
| === tgardner is now known as tgardner-afk | ||
| Q-FUNK | apw: if your have cmdline recipe I could input into grub, I'd welcome that. | 17:32 |
| apw | when at the boot menu, edit the entry and change the set gfxmenu=$xxx to =text | 17:32 |
| apw | then drop "splash" and "vt.handoff=N" from the command line and add "debug" | 17:33 |
| apw | then boot that | 17:33 |
| cnd | bjf[afk], sconklin: how is the sru bug tracking page generated? | 18:03 |
| === bjf[afk] is now known as bjf | ||
| bjf | cnd, look in kteam-tools/web the makefile shows all | 18:04 |
| cnd | bjf, ok, thanks | 18:05 |
| Q-FUNK | apw: thanks. where will that drop the log ad how do I grab it when I reboot into my backup kernel to attach to the bug? | 18:06 |
| dupondje | For a gps device, a /dev/gpsX should be created or ? | 18:21 |
| sforshee | dupondje, no /dev/gps that I'm aware of. What kind of device is it? | 18:29 |
| ohsix | sforshee: they're usually serial ports, barring devices that don't talk NMEA | 18:32 |
| sforshee | ohsix, depends, a lot of consumer models just have a USB mass storage interface | 18:33 |
| ohsix | (so they're on the serial ports, not gpsX) | 18:33 |
| ohsix | my only experience is garmin devices where it's a proprietary protocol or nmea | 18:33 |
| ohsix | i presume he actually meant to get gps information, not something like a tomtom situation where you copy maps or whatever to it over usb | 18:34 |
| sforshee | ohsix, that's why it depends on the model :) | 18:34 |
| === tgardner-afk is now known as tgardner | ||
| dupondje | iInterface 18 Dell Wireless 5540 HSPA Mini-Card GPS Port | 18:35 |
| ohsix | yup, i was more speaking to getting nmea and it showing up as a serial port; he'd probably notice a disk :P | 18:35 |
| dupondje | would be cool if it worked :P | 18:36 |
| sforshee | dupondje, my first guess would a serial port then, but I don't know anything about that device | 18:37 |
| dupondje | Bus 002 Device 004: ID 413c:8184 Dell Computer Corp. F3607gw v2 Mobile Broadband Module | 18:37 |
| dupondje | its 3G & (A)GPS in one | 18:37 |
| dupondje | usb-_ADell_Wireless_5540_Dell_Wireless_5540_3563970331281170-if0X | 18:39 |
| dupondje | mmm :) serial it seems indeed | 18:39 |
| dupondje | got 3 of them | 18:39 |
| sforshee | dupondje, from there it depends if it used NMEA or some proprietary protocol | 18:40 |
| JanC | that's an Ericsson I guess? ☺ | 18:40 |
| dupondje | any idea how I can find out what one of the 3 it is ? | 18:41 |
| JanC | dupondje: try pointing gpsd to all 3 of them and see which one it gets data from? | 18:41 |
| ohsix | try "cat" on all of them, one at a time :> | 18:43 |
| ohsix | one of them will probably be the modem baseband, dunno what the third will be | 18:43 |
| dupondje | none of them gives output :P | 18:44 |
| sforshee | dupondje, you could also try looking at the data from 'udevadm info --export-db' for the ttyUSB devices, see if there are descriptive names associated with them | 18:44 |
| ohsix | those cards tend to need firmware and special knocks too | 18:45 |
| JanC | not sure if this has useful info: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/mbm/index.php?title=MBM | 18:46 |
| dupondje | NetworkManager does see the modem, so thats fine | 18:46 |
| dupondje | JanC: seems nice | 18:47 |
| dupondje | lets read | 18:47 |
| dupondje | mmm, the tool depends on HAL :( | 18:54 |
| apw | bjf, ok finally remembered to fix those two reports ... should be ok now | 19:20 |
| bjf | apw, it would seem so | 19:20 |
| apw | bjf, i've also moved your update jobs a couple minutes earlier to miss the matrix update | 19:21 |
| bjf | apw, wfm | 19:21 |
| dupondje | JanC: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Ericsson_F3507g_Mobile_Broadband_Module | 19:47 |
| dupondje | seems like it can be enabled manually also :D | 19:47 |
| JanC | right, that's at least based on the same Ericsson card, it seems | 19:48 |
| JanC | or a similar one? | 19:49 |
| JanC | 3507 vs. 3607 | 19:49 |
| dupondje | $GPGGA,,,,,,0,00,0.5,,M,-0.142099,M,0.0000199,0130*54 | 19:53 |
| dupondje | $GPRMC,000151.86,V,,,,,,,060180,,,N*79 | 19:53 |
| dupondje | $GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,1.1,0.5,1.0*34 | 19:53 |
| dupondje | hehe :D | 19:53 |
| dupondje | waiting for a fix :) | 19:56 |
| * JanC only has a 12 € "GPS mouse" ☺ | 20:26 | |
| JanC | (which gets a fix within seconds) | 20:28 |
| dupondje | still no fix btw | 20:58 |
| dupondje | sad :( | 20:58 |
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| === kentb is now known as kentb-out | ||
| robbiew | any known issues with power management in Oneiric? my x220 is getting sucked dry: | 22:06 |
| robbiew | Power usage (ACPI estimate): 19.8W (2.3 hours) | 22:06 |
| robbiew | Top causes for wakeups: | 22:06 |
| robbiew | 33.9% (526.4) [Rescheduling interrupts] <kernel IPI> | 22:06 |
| robbiew | 23.1% (358.6) SignalSender | 22:06 |
| Sarvatt | robbiew: thats chromium sucking your power dry | 22:17 |
| robbiew | all hell | 22:17 |
| Sarvatt | robbiew: supposedly fixed by 14.0.835.0 according to the bug report | 22:18 |
| Sarvatt | http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=77625 | 22:18 |
| * robbiew is running chrome browser...but I guess it's there too | 22:19 | |
| robbiew | amazing...thanks! | 22:19 |
| manjo | Sarvatt, u genius | 22:21 |
| * robbiew switches to the unstable package...maybe the fix is there...damn sure ain't in stable | 22:22 | |
| Sarvatt | 14.0.835 should be dev channel | 22:23 |
| robbiew | yep...fixed in unstable Chrome browser | 22:25 |
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