[00:20] <skaet> Edubuntu DVD 20110802.1 posted
[00:34] <skaet> Xubuntu alternate 20110802.1 posted (i386, amd64)
[00:46] <NCommander> skaet: 20110802.1?,
[00:47] <NCommander> Xubuntu desktop 20110803 posted (i386, amd64)
[00:51] <charlie-tca> Woot!
[00:51] <charlie-tca> Thanks
[00:53] <NCommander> charlie-tca: poke meif you need any more respins, I'll be on most of the evening
[00:53] <charlie-tca> Okay, will do. Thanks
[00:54] <skaet> NCommander,  yeah it finished 6 minutes before midnight UTC
[00:54] <NCommander> skaet: ah, k
[00:54] <charlie-tca> I would hope not to respin again.
[01:35]  * GrueMaster calls it a night, armel-desktop images or not.
[01:35] <GrueMaster> Gotta have something to do tomorrow.  :P
[01:35] <charlie-tca> starting mine now, will run one test per image tonight, to make sure they work
[01:53] <NCommander> Kubuntu images are up
[01:53] <NCommander> (DVD images are still building)
[02:04] <charlie-tca> NCommander: I have a fail to build log on that last alternate run. Is it a mistake? I seem to have both images.
[02:04] <charlie-tca> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/xubuntu/oneiric/daily-20110803.log
[02:04] <NCommander> charlie-tca: I killed it cause I ran it by accident
[02:04] <NCommander> which generated a failure
[02:04] <charlie-tca> Okay
[02:04] <charlie-tca> Thanks
[02:41] <charlie-tca> hm, maybe I am too tired. Xubuntu alternate 64bit encrypted install fails to restart the monitor
[02:41] <charlie-tca> during the boot, the monitor shuts down and doesn't come back.
[02:42] <charlie-tca> probably hardware messing me up again
[02:49] <NCommander> kubuntu dvd posted
[03:32] <NCommander> Completing the ubuntu and ubuntu-server preinstalls now from the buildd explosion earlier tonight
[04:06] <NCommander> Ubuntu ARM preinstalls are up
[07:59] <mvo> good morning! has anyone else seen a conffile prompt during the upgrade form natty to oneiric? in base-files for /etc/update-motd.d/00-header ?
[08:04] <jibel> mvo, good morning, I did.
[08:05] <mvo> great, thanks jibel, I will file a bug and look into it then
[08:12] <xdatap1> jibel, morning
[12:58] <charlie-tca> both Xubuntu desktop images fail to work
[12:59] <charlie-tca> Install gets stuck at "Configuring target system... "  on both hardware and VBox
[13:01] <jibel> charlie-tca, good morning
[13:01] <jibel> charlie-tca, probably bug 820284
[13:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 820284 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 3 other projects) "Oneiric DVD 20110802.1 i386 failed to install: /usr/lib/ubiquity/target-config/30accessibility: 41: log_end_msg: not found (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Critical,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/820284
[13:01] <charlie-tca> um, not so good, but good morning
[13:03] <charlie-tca> so, got to respin?
[13:03] <hggdh> good morning charlie-tca and jibel
[13:03] <charlie-tca> good morning, hggdh
[13:05] <jibel> charlie-tca, yeah, we need the automatic live session login fix in.
[13:05] <jibel> good morning hggdh
[13:05] <charlie-tca> jibel: we have one?
[13:06] <jibel> stgraber uploaded a fix yesterday. that will fix the problem for derivatives that doesn't ship lighdm.conf
[13:08] <charlie-tca> Wouldn't that have made my spins last night, since I was last
[13:08] <charlie-tca> maybe not, I don't have autologin for live sessions
[13:12] <fader_> charlie-tca: Sorry, are you saying that xubuntu did not get the fix for bug 820284 in the current spins?
[13:12] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 820284 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 3 other projects) "Oneiric DVD 20110802.1 i386 failed to install: /usr/lib/ubiquity/target-config/30accessibility: 41: log_end_msg: not found (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Critical,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/820284
[13:12] <fader_> I think I'm seeing the same thing on amd64, though I get one more message in the log past the noted one
[13:13] <charlie-tca> I tried in vbox a couple of minutes ago, and it is still stuck. That bug was fixed about 1 hour ago, and my images are from last night
[13:14] <charlie-tca> fader_: since those are images from 12 hours ago, I don't think the fix is in them.
[13:15] <fader_> charlie-tca: Ack, thanks.  I'll not try again then as I'm seeing the same thing in the xubuntu desktop amd64 image
[13:15] <charlie-tca> Well, that's three of us then
[13:16] <charlie-tca> I have another tester that tried the i386 image and did not put it on the tracker
[13:16] <fader_> Out of curiosity, are you seeing anything like bug 820361?
[13:16] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 820361 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) ""Install Now" accelerator placed before any letters (dup-of: 811642)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/820361
[13:16] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 811642 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) ""_Install Now" text shown (affects: 4) (dups: 2) (heat: 24)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/811642
[13:16] <fader_> Ah, heh
[13:16] <fader_> Okay, it got duped, so I guess other people saw it
[13:16]  * fader_ fails at searching launchpad.
[13:17] <charlie-tca> TBH, I haven't looked that close. I am more concerned about just getting things to install
[13:18] <charlie-tca> These are the first images I have gotten with a live session that works.
[13:18] <fader_> Well, that's progress at least :)
[13:19] <jibel> fader_, you're seeing 820284 on ubuntu desktop amd64 or xubuntu ?
[13:23] <fader_> jibel: xubuntu desktop amd64
[13:25] <charlie-tca> me is not going crazy afterall.
[13:25] <fader_> Well, let's not be hasty
[13:26] <fader_> ;)
[13:26] <jibel> fader_, ok thanks, strangely I don't get it on Ubuntu Desktop only DVD i386 but that should affect all desktop images.
[13:27] <davmor2> charlie-tca: promise fader_ pie and he'll do all your testing after fixing all the issues ;)
[13:27] <fader_> jibel: Based on the bug and what charlie-tca said, it looks like it got fixed after the xubuntu images were built
[13:28] <fader_> Not sure when the other desktop images were built though
[13:28] <fader_> davmor2: WHERE IS PIE
[13:28] <davmor2> fader_: In my tummy mmmmmm pie
[13:28] <jibel> fader_, desktop images were built before the fix.
[13:28] <fader_> Hmm
[13:29] <fader_> jibel: I have not tried non-xubuntu images yet; would it be useful for me to try an ubuntu desktop image on this hardware?
[13:29] <charlie-tca> hm, Ubuntu dvd and Xubuntu were run after the caspar fix last night. Ubuntu desktop was run before it
[13:30] <charlie-tca> jibel: I am still getting fails when running encrypted lvm install with two drives on real hardware
[13:30] <jibel> fader_, no, other testers have installed ubuntu desktop successfully. thanks for your help.
[13:31] <charlie-tca> I blamed the hardware again last night. I will have to try it today
[15:16] <ara> jibel, did you guys have now automated daily testing reports somewhere?
[15:42] <jbicha> hi, I had some problems with oneiric checkbox and it wasn't clear which IRC channel I should use to
[15:42] <jbicha> report them
[15:43] <jbicha> I tried to submit my results using checkbox's built-in submission tool: http://fpaste.org/C4WL/
[15:43] <jbicha> and when I tried from the command line (not sure what command to use), I got http://fpaste.org/G7ZG/
[15:55] <charlie-tca> Encrypted LVM fails in Xubuntu; system will not accept a password to allow login
[15:55] <charlie-tca> both i386 and amd64 images
[16:01] <skaet> all, new set of desktop and dvd builds has been started to pick up latest bug fixes.  Will let you know as they come off the builder.
[16:03] <PaoloRotolo> hi all
[16:08] <charlie-tca> bug 820460 needs to be in the release notes
[16:08] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 820460 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Encrypted LVM install will not allow login in Xubuntu Alpha3 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/820460
[16:43] <skaet> ubuntu desktop (20110803) has been posted.
[16:43] <skaet> jibel, ^
[16:44] <jibel> ok
[17:29] <ScottK> fader_: I appreciate you working on testing Kubuntu.  Once they are done respinning, I'd really appreciate it if you could look at the live CD tests since that's our primary focus this cycle.
[17:32] <fader_> ScottK: I'll give it a shot if I have some time... unfortunately I'll be in meetings for much of the afternoon but I should be able to pick off at least one live test
[17:32] <ScottK> fader_: Thanks.  At the rate we're going we're not going to run out of needing help anytime soon.
[17:32] <fader_> ScottK: :)  No problem
[17:33] <ScottK> ISO testing is one of the places we really miss Riddell this cycle.  He usually did most of it.
[17:33] <ScottK> The same is true for anyone else too (would love some help), of course.
[17:37] <charlie-tca> Any installs using encrypted /home and Xubuntu alternate images will fail to allow login.
[17:37] <charlie-tca> Anyone testing Xubuntu images, please select the second Xubuntu session
[17:56] <cr3> jbicha: hi there, I'm all yours about checkbox. what's up?
[17:58] <jbicha> ok, I'm having trouble submitting my test results using checkbox's built-in submission tool I got http://fpaste.org/C4WL/
[17:58] <jbicha> and when I tried from the command line (not sure what command to use), I got http://fpaste.org/G7ZG/
[18:03] <cr3> jbicha: do you still have the file ~/.cache/checkbox/checkbox.log on your system?
[18:04] <jbicha> cr3: yes
[18:05] <cr3> jbicha: awesome, can you either pastebin it or email it to me?
[18:05] <jbicha> it's 18MB!
[18:05] <cr3> jbicha: bzip2 will probably make it more sane
[18:07] <charlie-tca> well, try again. power blinked with 4 tests running on hardware
[18:08] <jbicha> oh, yeah, much smaller, email sent
[18:09]  * yofel does some kubuntu alternate i386 testing
[18:15] <cr3> jbicha: interesting! 'udevadm: not found'
[18:16] <cr3> jbicha: can you try running udevadm to confirm whether it's installed on your system or not?
[18:16] <jbicha> udev, who needs it? lol, let me see
[18:16] <jbicha> hmm, I don't have that
[18:16] <cr3> jbicha: odd, is there anything about your installation I should know about?
[18:17] <jbicha> but I have udev 172.0ubuntu5 installed & python-pyudev 0.11-1
[18:18] <jbicha> ah, it's /sbin/udevadm
[18:18] <cr3> jbicha: hm, that would explain it!
[18:18] <jbicha> did checkbox use sudo when it tried to run it?
[18:19] <cr3> jbicha: nope, it should've run it as you
[18:20] <cr3> should /sbin be in the default PATH on Ubuntu?
[18:20] <cr3> if not, should checkbox extend the PATH with /sbin and probably /usr/sbin too?
[18:22] <jbicha> no, as far as I know /sbin is in the default for root only and I think that's a good thing
[18:23] <jbicha> just call it as sudo or use the full path
[18:24] <cr3> jbicha: I'd be more inclined to do PATH=$PATH:/sbin:/usr/sbin in the checkbox environment for all its subprocesses
[18:25] <cr3> I try to avoid running this as root unless absolutely necessary
[18:26] <jbicha> I agree, using the full path is better than needlessly using root access
[18:27] <jbicha> I had several of the tests claim to fail but they actually worked
[18:27] <cr3> jbicha: do you happen to have a bug open for this? if not, I'll create one, link a branch and all that
[18:27] <jbicha> no, the testing took so long (that 30-suspend cycle one is intense) that I didn't have a chance to properly write up
[18:27] <jbicha> the issues I saw
[18:28] <jbicha> also, the bundled bug-reporting didn't work
[18:28] <cr3> jbicha: no worries, I'm on it and I'll subscribe you. one minute...
[18:34] <cr3> jbicha: done, now for the second pastebin
[18:39] <cr3> jbicha: it might take a little while to test the problem with results2launchpad, I need to dist-upgrade and setup my oneiric kvm instance
[18:40] <jbicha> but do I even have the right syntax when I tried running the command?
[18:41] <jbicha> the Amazon page says <PROJECT NAME> <SUBMISSION FILE> and there's no indication of what in the world those are supposed to be
[18:44] <cr3> jbicha: yep, that looks right, I suspect maybe launchpad lib changed in oneiric or I did something wrong
[18:44] <jbicha> cr3: good because I just guessed, can that description be improved, or at least documentation somewhere about how to
[18:44] <jbicha> submit test results
[18:47] <cr3> jbicha: that description is the second attempt to be clear, I'm open to suggestions :)
[18:49] <jbicha> it should say "ubuntu ~/.cache/checkbox/submission.xml" be specific
[18:49] <jbicha> it was a very lucky guess that I figured out what the project name and submission file were
[18:50] <cr3> jbicha: good suggestion, thanks!
[18:51] <jbicha> I want the Ubuntu Friendly testtool to be something anyone can do easily
[18:51] <jbicha> the more automated the better
[18:52] <cr3> jbicha: at this point, the tool is checkbox which submits to launchpad which is then polled periodically to get the information into the tracker which will be displayed in the ubuntu friendly presentation layer
[18:52] <cr3> in other words: checkbox -> launchpad -> results tracker -> ubuntu friendly
[18:53] <cr3> it might seem complicated but users should only see the edges: checkbox and ubuntu friendly
[18:54] <jbicha> right, the manual submission is obviously just a workaround
[18:55] <cr3> jbicha: right, it's temporary for starting to play with the results tracker. eventually, checkbox might just submit like results2launchpad directly to the results tracker but that remains to be seen
[18:55] <jbicha> but checkbox is now asks way more questions than it used to and perhaps too many questions
[18:55] <jbicha> a bunch of the questions seem more like isotesting, checking to see if apps work instead of checking to see if the hardware works
[18:56] <cr3> jbicha: that should be raised on the ubuntu-friendly-squad mailing list, could you start a thread about that? something short like: I just ran checkbox for 30 minutes, that not friendly :)
[18:56] <jbicha> I think both are good things for checkbox, but they should be two different modes
[18:56] <jbicha> yes, I'll write up my impressions this week
[18:57] <cr3> jbicha: launchpad doesn't really do anything with the submissions, it's only being used as a data store but it could remain as such
[18:57] <cr3> jbicha: the sooner the better, feature freeze is coming next week so we need time to push changes before then
[18:58] <jbicha> ok, I'll get it done tomorrow, have some other things I'm working on today
[18:58] <jbicha> thanks!
[18:58] <cr3> no worries, tomorrow is awesome. thanks man!
[19:02] <pace_t_zulu> hi nagappan
[19:07] <PaoloRotolo> hi all
[19:13] <cr3> jbicha: regarding your second pastebin, I can reproduce the problem and it's related to launchpadlib which has changed in oneiric for desktop integration purposes. I'll keep this on my radar for the next release of the results tracker, thanks for the heads up
[19:18] <rickspencer3> join #ubuntu-release
[19:18] <rickspencer3> oops
[20:49] <nagappan> pace_t_zulu, hi
[20:56] <fader_> I'm seeing a bug when shutting down the live session in kubuntu desktop, but I'm not sure where to file it; KDE Base?
[20:56] <fader_> ScottK: ^^
[20:56] <ScottK> What happens?
[20:57] <fader_> After selecting reboot, the session shuts down but then I am prompted to kill active console sessions
[20:58] <fader_> (I did not switch to any virtual terminals)
[20:58] <fader_> Got a screenshot; let me get it shared
[20:58] <fader_> The good news is that other than that, the live session looks good so far, persistent and everything :)
[20:59] <fader_> http://ubuntuone.com/p/18CR/
[20:59] <fader_> ScottK: ^^
[20:59] <fader_> Sorry, s/console//
[21:00] <ScottK> fader_: AFAIK it's always done that.  I think it's a feature and not abug.
[21:00] <fader_> ScottK: Hmm, I don't recall it doing that on an installed system.  Is this a feature of the live image?
[21:01] <ScottK> It's because of how the live system starts up all the VTs I think.
[21:01] <ScottK> Maybe stgraber or someone knows better.
[21:01] <fader_> If it's intentional I won't file a bug, but it definitely gave me a "WTF?" feeling :)
[21:01] <ScottK> I can understand that.
[21:01] <fader_> Papercut-esque
[21:02] <ScottK> What it's triggering is the warning about shutting down if someone else is logged in.
[21:02] <ScottK> So the warning is good.
[21:02] <ScottK> If there's a reasonable way to avoid it for the live session, I'm not sure.
[21:02] <fader_> Yeah, I can understand that, and it's a Good Thing for sure.  But it seems spurious as I didn't log in anywhere other than the X session
[21:02] <ScottK> I don't understand that part of the system well enough.
[21:02]  * fader_ nods.
[21:03] <stgraber> I honestly don't know much about that part of the system either. I can have a look once I'm done validating Edubuntu installs and boots :)
[21:04] <fader_> I know Ubuntu doesn't prompt like that on the live session, but now I'm not sure if it gives anything similar on reboot/shutdown on an installed system with someone logged in elsewhere.  I'm leaning toward 'no' as I know I have shut down while being logged in on a VT
[21:04] <fader_> Eh, I'll file a bug and if it gets invalidated I won't cry :)
[21:08] <fader_> stgraber: You mean you don't just trust that your work is good?  ;)
[21:08] <fader_> Testing shmesting!
[21:11] <hggdh> is a missing depends between system-config-printer-common and python-packagekit known for desktop?
[21:15] <stgraber> fader_: I know "my" work will work because I tested it ;) I'm more worried of the other few thousand of packages ;)
[21:15] <fader_> Hehe
[21:15] <stgraber> (my work between alpha-2 and alpha-3 is basically a translation update in edubuntu-live ;))
[21:16] <fader_> stgraber: See, nothing could possibly have broken!  It's perfectly safe!
[21:16] <fader_> (Is that smoke I smell?)
[21:18] <stgraber> ;)
[21:25] <bdmurray> anybody testing alternates?
[21:25] <bdmurray> It didn't seem to auto reboot for me
[21:26] <skaet> jibel, hggdh,  ubuntu desktop 20110803.1 posted.    Please let me know soonest if this one doesn't boot
[21:26] <skaet> stgraber, ^ I'm going to speculatively start off the edubuntu dvd while waiting to hear an ok.
[21:28] <stgraber> skaet: my laptop just did an emergency shutdown as I was running too many VMs and it got too hot, but I was at around 90% of an Edubuntu install and I tested all our alpha-3 changes
[21:28] <stgraber> skaet: so I'm pretty sure it's safe to start building them
[21:30] <skaet> thanks stgraber,  kicking them off now.
[21:31] <pace_t_zulu> nagappan: was there a particular reason you greeted me yesterday?
[21:32] <nagappan> pace_t_zulu, sorry that was by mistake
[21:32] <nagappan> pace_t_zulu, during autofill, I just typed patrickmw pa<tab> and said hi
[21:33] <patrickmw> :)
[21:34] <cyphermox_> grabbing ubuntu desktop i386 now...
[21:59] <charlie-tca> I have ubuntu desktop 64 whole disk installing from "install now"
[21:59] <charlie-tca> it appears to be working, too
[22:00] <skaet> \o/
[22:00] <charlie-tca> fingers crossed
[22:01] <charlie-tca> It's taken me all day to find a workaround when the user picks the wrong xubuntu session
[22:01] <charlie-tca> but I got it now
[22:03]  * skaet crosses fingers, though it is rather hard to type this way.. ;)
[22:03]  * charlie-tca nods
[22:04] <charlie-tca> I really figured one of those people with super fast connections would have said something by now
[22:05]  * charlie-tca has a super slow internet
[22:05] <charlie-tca> Configuring target system...
[22:05] <charlie-tca> and still working
[22:06] <charlie-tca> now downloading language packs
[22:26] <hggdh> and I am syncing the new desktop ISOs.
[22:26] <hggdh> charlie-tca: sorry, I was busy on the server tests
[22:29] <charlie-tca> hggdh: no problem. Mine is past the failure point, at least
[22:29]  * fader_ starts pulling down Kubuntu amd64 DVD.
[22:29]  * hggdh feels a bit better now
[22:29] <fader_> Ugh, no seed for this one; gonna take a bit :/
[22:46] <charlie-tca> fresh install of Ubuntu desktop 64 restarting now
[22:55] <charlie-tca> skaet: ubuntu desktop 64 works now
[22:55] <skaet> *\o/*
[22:55] <skaet> thanks charlie-tca!
[22:56] <skaet> xubuntu should be emerging shortly from the builder...
[22:56] <charlie-tca> yw
[22:58] <charlie-tca> jibel: screen reader install is not ready yet
[23:26] <skaet> Edubuntu DVD 20110803.1 now posted
[23:35] <Claudinux> bug 820574 seems to be invalid...last kubuntu-i386 image works fine
[23:35] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 820574 in busybox (Ubuntu) "Unable to start a live session: Busybox error (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/820574
[23:54] <hggdh> OK. Alternate AMD64 is complete, except LSTP still running
[23:55] <hggdh> I will have a look at my wife now, and BRB