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| StucKman | any way to debug why upstart complains about «start: Unknown job [foo]»? | 13:36 |
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| ion | Because there’s no /etc/init/foo.conf or /etc/init/foo.conf has a syntax error. | 13:39 |
| StucKman | ion: ok, the foo.conf exists. is there any systax checker? | 13:39 |
| StucKman | syntax* | 13:39 |
| ion | See the error message in syslog. | 13:40 |
| StucKman | ion: good! | 13:40 |
| StucKman | bad | 13:41 |
| StucKman | guess who can´t start... | 13:41 |
| StucKman | ... rsyslog | 13:41 |
| pmjdebruijn | hi all | 14:01 |
| pmjdebruijn | I have a server that seems to get "stuck" on booting... runnig upstart with --verbose doesn't really help, sinec that allows me to see what tasks have been completed, but not what it's waiting for | 14:01 |
| pmjdebruijn | with a serial init I could predict order, thus the last finished modules would implicitly tell me what next failed | 14:02 |
| pmjdebruijn | this isn't true for parallel startup | 14:02 |
| pmjdebruijn | can someone give me a hint as to effectively troubleshoot this issue | 14:02 |
| StucKman | ion: so, if I don´t have syslog running, there are no logs? | 14:03 |
| pmjdebruijn | http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/Debugging | 14:05 |
| pmjdebruijn | ok I'll try that :) | 14:05 |
| wraiden | StucKman: add --verbose to your cmdline | 14:06 |
| StucKman | wraiden: service mysql start --verbose? | 14:06 |
| wraiden | no | 14:06 |
| StucKman | start --verbose mysql? | 14:06 |
| wraiden | no | 14:06 |
| wraiden | kernel commandline | 14:06 |
| StucKman | what>? | 14:06 |
| wraiden | in your grub config | 14:06 |
| StucKman | do I need to reboot my machine? | 14:06 |
| wraiden | the args are appended to inits start | 14:07 |
| wraiden | so init gets the --verbose | 14:07 |
| StucKman | yougottabefuckingkiddingme | 14:07 |
| StucKman | no, sorry, I can´t reboot this machine just like that | 14:07 |
| StucKman | I don´t even have a monitor attached to it | 14:08 |
| StucKman | I'm not even in the same state | 14:08 |
| wraiden | hehe | 14:08 |
| StucKman | not funny! | 14:09 |
| wraiden | depends | 14:09 |
| wraiden | you can try to add echos to every suspected job config | 14:09 |
| wraiden | as pre-start | 14:09 |
| wraiden | and let that echos write to a file | 14:09 |
| wraiden | e.g. | 14:11 |
| wraiden | pre-start script | 14:11 |
| wraiden | echo "jobname trys to start" >> /debug.log | 14:11 |
| wraiden | end script | 14:11 |
| wraiden | and add a post-start with the same | 14:11 |
| StucKman | wraiden: wait | 14:12 |
| wraiden | oh | 14:12 |
| StucKman | I'm trying to launch it by hand | 14:12 |
| wraiden | poor mand debugging ... | 14:12 |
| wraiden | *mans | 14:13 |
| wraiden | whats your upstart version | 14:13 |
| wraiden | ? | 14:13 |
| StucKman | you mean that of the script has a syntax error it will get executed up to that point? | 14:13 |
| StucKman | lemmesee... | 14:13 |
| StucKman | 0.6.5-8 | 14:13 |
| StucKman | (ubuntu lucid) | 14:14 |
| wraiden | mhm | 14:14 |
| wraiden | man initctl | grep check | 14:14 |
| wraiden | ? | 14:14 |
| StucKman | nothing | 14:14 |
| wraiden | initctl has a check-config arg on 0.9 versions but i don't think that was in 0.6 also | 14:15 |
| StucKman | chízus | 14:15 |
| wraiden | can you post the config somewhere? | 14:15 |
| wraiden | i'll take a look | 14:15 |
| StucKman | ok | 14:16 |
| StucKman | initctl list does not have either rsyslog or mysql in it | 14:16 |
| StucKman | wraiden: it's ubuntu's provided job file | 14:16 |
| StucKman | let me paste it anyways | 14:17 |
| wraiden | taht means that the jobs are not loaded because of syntactical errors | 14:17 |
| wraiden | huh? | 14:17 |
| wraiden | the ubuntu provided ones don'T work? | 14:17 |
| StucKman | wraiden: don't get me started on that | 14:17 |
| wraiden | are you shure that the jobs are in /etc/init ? | 14:17 |
| wraiden | ubuntu has not ported all init scripts over to native upstart jobs | 14:18 |
| wraiden | it could be that they are in /etc/init.d | 14:18 |
| StucKman | wraiden: it is doing it, and the wrong way | 14:18 |
| StucKman | s/it is/they are/ | 14:18 |
| StucKman | s/and/but/ | 14:18 |
| StucKman | wraiden: http://pastebin.lugmen.org.ar/6691 | 14:19 |
| wraiden | have a lucid box here | 14:25 |
| StucKman | 10.04.2? check /etc/issue | 14:25 |
| wraiden | 10.4.3 | 14:25 |
| StucKman | ok | 14:25 |
| StucKman | or, more interetingly, this other: http://pastebin.lugmen.org.ar/6692 | 14:31 |
| StucKman | if I add or modify a script in /etc/init/, do I need to do something so upstart rereads it? | 14:39 |
| wraiden | normaly not | 14:41 |
| StucKman | and anormally? | 14:41 |
| wraiden | as upstart looks with inotify for file alteration in its config folder and reloads | 14:42 |
| StucKman | ack | 14:42 |
| wraiden | you can poke init to reload with | 14:42 |
| wraiden | initctl reload-configuration | 14:43 |
| StucKman | wait | 14:43 |
| StucKman | wait wait wait | 14:43 |
| StucKman | I have a question | 14:43 |
| StucKman | ok, here's te thing | 14:44 |
| StucKman | I'm trying to start a rsyslog and/or mysql in a chroot | 14:44 |
| StucKman | how does that afeect upstart? | 14:44 |
| StucKman | affect* | 14:45 |
| wraiden | where do you execute the initctl or links to it like start stop reload whatever ? | 14:48 |
| wraiden | inside the chroot? | 14:48 |
| wraiden | where are the job config files located? | 14:49 |
| wraiden | inside the chroot? | 14:49 |
| wraiden | upstart is pid 1 | 14:49 |
| StucKman | for instance, if I do «initctl reload-configuration», it contacts PID 1, ... I see where's the problem | 14:50 |
| wraiden | pid 1 is located on your real root | 14:50 |
| StucKman | I know | 14:50 |
| wraiden | it will only look inside of /etc/init | 14:50 |
| StucKman | ok, let me (re)think about it | 14:50 |
| StucKman | and yes, neither mysql or rsyslog are in the host | 14:51 |
| wraiden | you ca however change the jobs to be started outside of a chroot an let the jobs start inside of the chroot | 14:51 |
| StucKman | wraiden: uhm? | 14:51 |
| wraiden | scripting? | 14:51 |
| StucKman | yes, but what did you mean? | 14:52 |
| wraiden | or even easier | 14:52 |
| wraiden | man 5 init | 14:52 |
| wraiden | look for the chroot stanza | 14:52 |
| StucKman | wraiden: good | 14:53 |
| wraiden | RTFM might help ;-P | 14:53 |
| StucKman | wraiden: ups | 14:53 |
| wraiden | didn't use the chroot stanza so far | 14:53 |
| StucKman | so do I have to pray it works? | 14:54 |
| StucKman | :? | 14:54 |
| wraiden | but will soon as my inhouse cluster distro will change to native upstart over the next few weeks | 14:54 |
| StucKman | I'm sorry, I'm just a little bit bitter | 14:54 |
| wraiden | so i have to use it for bind | 14:54 |
| wraiden | well. upstart is covered by a very strict testsuite | 14:55 |
| wraiden | you can expect a stanze to do what was documented | 14:55 |
| wraiden | *stanze | 14:56 |
| wraiden | *stanza | 14:56 |
| StucKman | ok, good | 14:56 |
| wraiden | *lokking fatfingered* | 14:56 |
| wraiden | i need some sleep *g* | 14:56 |
| StucKman | go, go, go! | 14:56 |
| wraiden | it daytime here | 14:56 |
| wraiden | and i'm @ work | 14:56 |
| StucKman | heeh, same here | 14:56 |
| wraiden | not a good place for a powernap *g* | 14:57 |
| StucKman | take a nap anyways | 14:57 |
| wraiden | as network admin one would wake dragons that one should better not wake if someone finds me sleeping *g* | 14:57 |
| wraiden | you can drop me a line here if the stanza got you where you wanted... | 14:59 |
| StucKman | wraiden: I'm thinking if that's the best approach for my particular case | 15:03 |
| StucKman | in general, it looks like yes, but... | 15:03 |
| JanC | "initctl log-priority debug" on a running system will do the same as --verbose on the kernel commandline | 15:11 |
| StucKman | wraiden: ok, it was better your way | 15:13 |
| StucKman | seems to work now | 15:14 |
| StucKman | JanC: but where does it log them? | 15:15 |
| StucKman | becuase rsyslog was not loading before | 15:16 |
| StucKman | because* | 15:16 |
| JanC | right, maybe not so useful right now then (unless you start syslog manually first, or such) | 15:17 |
| JanC | mysql didn't start either? | 15:17 |
| StucKman | JanC: I'm finishing fixing the rsyslog now | 15:18 |
| JanC | you don't have a circular dependency between rsyslog & mysql or such? ☺ | 15:20 |
| StucKman | no | 15:20 |
| StucKman | it's more complicated | 15:20 |
| StucKman | so I have to do extra work to leave it fixed | 15:20 |
| StucKman | we use cfengine and we switch from chroot to chrroot depending on development states | 15:21 |
| JanC | ah, using upstart in a chroot or in container-style VMs is a bit complicated sometimes | 15:24 |
| StucKman | not anymore | 15:26 |
| StucKman | chroot works fine | 15:26 |
| StucKman | and I just have to add some stuff to our cfengine repo and modify some scripts that change the dev environ | 15:27 |
| rawler | hi.. I'm developing a daemon which is currently in early Alpha/Beta stage.. I'm using the upstart restart functionality to restart it if it crashes.. however, I'd also like to get a coredump, if possible.. | 17:15 |
| rawler | I've tried adding "limit core 100000 100000" to the conf, but I can't find the corefile.. I've also tried adding "chdir /tmp/" but no luck.. am I missing something? | 17:18 |
| traviscline | any way for me to prefix an env var? | 23:23 |
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