| astraljava | charlie-tca: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjqEn7AAq5E | 00:03 |
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| charlie-tca | new alternate images are up | 00:33 |
| charlie-tca | still waiting for desktop to finish | 00:33 |
| micahg | did anyone test to see if accountsservice restored the user list on login? | 00:42 |
| charlie-tca | haven't even had time to finish syncing yet | 00:43 |
| micahg | was referring to upgrading a current system/logout | 00:43 |
| astraljava | I can try tomorrow at the office, while waiting for code to compile or whatever. | 00:49 |
| charlie-tca | desktop is up now | 00:51 |
| charlie-tca | sorry, will boot one up and find out | 00:52 |
| charlie-tca | upgrading now, micahg | 00:53 |
| charlie-tca | I am a little slow some days | 00:54 |
| charlie-tca | micahg: it worked, gave me the user list and the session prefilled | 01:04 |
| charlie-tca | It's even the correct session preselected | 01:05 |
| charlie-tca | Now if only the background stayed one color | 01:06 |
| charlie-tca | starting the image tests now | 01:34 |
| charlie-tca | will run one test per image tonight, to make sure they work | 01:35 |
| Unit193 | I'll run a few 32bit | 01:48 |
| charlie-tca | great. | 01:51 |
| charlie-tca | Mostly want to know if we have to fix things or not to get a good image | 01:51 |
| Unit193 | Is bug 819609 really invalid? | 02:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 819609 in casper (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Oneiric live CD boots to login screen" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/819609 | 02:03 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: great news | 02:05 |
| micahg | Unit193: yes, it was fixed another way | 02:05 |
| Unit193 | Sorry. I still had to login :/ | 02:06 |
| micahg | Unit193: xubuntu or ubuntu? | 02:07 |
| micahg | ubuntu should be no, xubuntu, yes | 02:07 |
| Unit193 | Xubuntu desktop 32bit | 02:07 |
| Unit193 | Alright | 02:07 |
| micahg | that should be fixed after alpha3 I think | 02:07 |
| micahg | at least you should get a user to click on now | 02:08 |
| charlie-tca | It was against ubuntu, we may still not have a auto-boot to the live session, but that is bug 806408 | 02:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 806408 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "After xubuntu upgrade or installation, default session on greeter must be xubuntu" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/806408 | 02:08 |
| Unit193 | That was the bug on our tracker. I didn't get the user actually | 02:08 |
| micahg | Unit193: do you have the latest ISO? we added that this afternoon | 02:09 |
| charlie-tca | This is still valid for us. We are on hold for another bug to get fixed | 02:09 |
| Unit193 | micahg: I should as I just synced it. I'll check MD5 again | 02:10 |
| * charlie-tca booting a live cd now to verify | 02:11 | |
| charlie-tca | image should be dated 2011-08-03 for desktop | 02:11 |
| charlie-tca | The live cd is the only time I get a splash screen in plymouth. | 02:12 |
| charlie-tca | micahg: the user list doesn't show up in live session | 02:13 |
| charlie-tca | The only user listed is "other" | 02:13 |
| charlie-tca | We have to seed it to use ubuntu somehow | 02:13 |
| charlie-tca | but I don't think we can until we get the bug above fixed, which is on hold for Bug #799754 | 02:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 799754 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Please let vendors easily provide their own config" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/799754 | 02:14 |
| Unit193 | I'm glad it isn't just me as the md5 checked from cdimage.../current/ | 02:15 |
| Unit193 | Oddly, I got the plymouth screen in VBox | 02:15 |
| charlie-tca | strange, that login bug is the only one I see now | 02:24 |
| charlie-tca | spoke too soon, still has two xubuntu sessions | 02:26 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: :( | 02:32 |
| charlie-tca | ubiquity is different than the installed systems. Things don't work the same | 02:33 |
| charlie-tca | I think something has to happen in casper to make it work | 02:33 |
| charlie-tca | micahg: I guess if it is broken on live session, but fixed after installing, that is still a gain | 02:34 |
| charlie-tca | We won't get things working in lightdm for live sessions until those bugs get fixed, which mr_pouit has spent a lot of time on. | 02:35 |
| charlie-tca | unfortunately, sometimes it seems like they are fighting us all the way | 02:35 |
| charlie-tca | um, this is bad | 02:36 |
| charlie-tca | I lost all video after restarting | 02:36 |
| charlie-tca | I ran the 64bit encrypted install, and the restart has shut the monitor off | 02:37 |
| charlie-tca | rebooted, did it again | 02:38 |
| charlie-tca | oh-oh | 02:38 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: RAOF might still be around in #ubuntu-desktop | 02:43 |
| charlie-tca | I will assume it is hardware again. will run that test tomorrow now | 02:43 |
| charlie-tca | I give up tonight | 02:43 |
| charlie-tca | I have to unplug one drive in the computer to get the lvm encrypted install to work | 02:44 |
| charlie-tca | I can't do that. I am running the same install in VBox to verify | 02:46 |
| * micahg is heading to sleep | 02:47 | |
| charlie-tca | Good night, micahg | 02:51 |
| charlie-tca | Unit193: working for you? | 03:11 |
| Unit193 | charlie-tca: I'm not doing encryption yet | 03:22 |
| Unit193 | Hung for a little, but I went and took a shower so it's fixed :P | 03:23 |
| charlie-tca | I will finish these two I got running, and call it a night | 03:27 |
| charlie-tca | I am pretty sure it is the hardware making the encrypted test fail, it did that testing alpha2, too. | 03:28 |
| Unit193 | Shouldn't the network bug go in the install and not the live? | 03:28 |
| charlie-tca | It's issues with both SATA and PATA hard drive in the same computer | 03:28 |
| Unit193 | I'll run a VBox of that test tomorrow (or late tonight if you really want it) | 03:28 |
| charlie-tca | It could, but it doesn't really matter. It did come up while installing from the live desktop | 03:29 |
| charlie-tca | The only one I know will be against the install is bug 814060 | 03:30 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 814060 in gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) "shares-admin crashed with signal 5 in g_option_context_parse()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/814060 | 03:30 |
| charlie-tca | because I don't ever add users to the live session | 03:30 |
| charlie-tca | and that crashes as soon as you select users and groups | 03:31 |
| charlie-tca | I give up. I can't make anything work now | 03:40 |
| charlie-tca | good night | 03:40 |
| Unit193 | Adios, I'll finish this and amybe another (one at a time) | 03:41 |
| Unit193 | Hmmmmm.... Still configuring system... | 04:35 |
| Unit193 | Still configuring, I'll call this a fail and try again tomorrow | 05:00 |
| charlie-tca | Our alpha3 images are failing. The desktop images are starting the install and getting stuck at "Configuring target system..." forever. | 12:53 |
| charlie-tca | There seems no way to make these work. | 12:54 |
| charlie-tca | micahg, mr_pouit ^ ^ ^ | 12:54 |
| charlie-tca | both i386 and amd64 desktop images | 12:54 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: bug 820284? | 13:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 820284 in casper (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Oneiric DVD 20110802.1 i386 failed to install: /usr/lib/ubiquity/target-config/30accessibility: 41: log_end_msg: not found" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/820284 | 13:03 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 13:03 |
| * micahg disappears again | 13:03 | |
| charlie-tca | blamed it on too tired last night, but Unit193 said the same thing, and it does it today again | 13:04 |
| madnick | Is there a work around? | 13:41 |
| charlie-tca | no | 13:47 |
| charlie-tca | They will have to respin the desktop images again | 13:47 |
| charlie-tca | but first, they have to fix them. This is a direct result of the fix yesterday to lightdm to force an auto-login for live sessions | 13:47 |
| madnick | oh | 13:48 |
| astraljava | Meh, probably respinning them too late, so I can't download at the office. :( | 13:49 |
| charlie-tca | haven't even started yet | 13:50 |
| charlie-tca | They are trying to figure out how to fix it | 13:50 |
| charlie-tca | alternate images are working, though | 13:50 |
| madnick | Ill get me one of those :) I was so dumb, I read the bug report and it said "DVD", so I went for a normal image and still got the problem, i need to read better | 13:52 |
| charlie-tca | hey, I found the lightdm.conf for Xubuntu. It is in /usr/share/xubuntu/lightdm/lightdm.conf | 14:27 |
| charlie-tca | in oneiric | 14:27 |
| madnick | In todays images? | 14:29 |
| charlie-tca | in both live session and installations | 14:29 |
| charlie-tca | although, for alpha3, live session will be over-ridden by a default file to give the auto-login | 14:29 |
| madnick | sweet, hope its the complete version, im installing now (53%) | 14:30 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: the xubuntu settings package is supposed to move replace the lightdm.conf in /etc with the one in /usr/share | 14:31 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: so, another casper upload just happened to overwrite any custom configuration, so we should get autologin | 14:32 |
| charlie-tca | micahg: it's all symlinked to /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf | 14:33 |
| micahg | right | 14:33 |
| charlie-tca | so, yes, it should overwrite what we have to make it work | 14:33 |
| micahg | but that's about to be blown away in casper | 14:33 |
| micahg | at least for alpha3 | 14:33 |
| charlie-tca | but it will not over-write in installs, only on the live session | 14:33 |
| micahg | right | 14:33 |
| charlie-tca | which should be fine. What we have now is not working all that great | 14:34 |
| charlie-tca | We can't even have the same color background each time | 14:34 |
| charlie-tca | oh, by way, Good morning | 14:35 |
| micahg | good morning to you too :) | 14:37 |
| charlie-tca | Xubuntu alpha3 alternate images fail encrypted LVM installs. Can not login after the installation | 16:12 |
| charlie-tca | bug 820460 | 16:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 820460 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Encrypted LVM install will not allow login in Xubuntu Alpha3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/820460 | 16:12 |
| charlie-tca | I will put this in the release notes. It is getting to late to keep trying to test these. | 16:37 |
| charlie-tca | We still don't have valid desktop images | 16:37 |
| charlie-tca | Encrypting /home also causes login to fail | 16:41 |
| astraljava | charlie-tca: So the respins are ready? | 17:20 |
| charlie-tca | only the alternate images are ready | 17:27 |
| charlie-tca | The desktop images will have to re-built again after they fix the bug blocking the install | 17:28 |
| charlie-tca | 18 hours and I finally got the amd64 alternate image tested. That must be a record. | 17:43 |
| charlie-tca | mr_pouit: any workaround after we choose the wrong session? | 21:36 |
| charlie-tca | If the wrong Xubuntu session is chosen, we get a fragmented xfce session. | 21:36 |
| charlie-tca | Next login, we can choose the other Xubuntu session, but it only changes the wallpaper | 21:37 |
| charlie-tca | we still don't get the right panels, menu, applets, etc. | 21:37 |
| charlie-tca | Deleting ~/.cache and deleting ~/.drmc doesn't work | 21:40 |
| charlie-tca | mr_pouit: do we really have to tell people to reinstall because they picked the wrong Xubuntu session? | 21:42 |
| madnick | Also on the newest lat image, I picked "se" (using detect keyboard, that is swedish keyboard) but it uses US layout | 21:47 |
| madnick | alt* :) | 21:47 |
| charlie-tca | found it. We can release note it. If the icons don't appear, logout, rm -r ~/.config, login using the other Xubuntu session | 21:51 |
| charlie-tca | it will work | 21:51 |
| Unit193 | I was about to say that fix (I've done something like that, picked Xfce Session) | 21:52 |
| Unit193 | I was just never able to fix GDM or my mouse :/ | 21:52 |
| charlie-tca | It's a long way around to login, if you haven't used it before, but it works | 21:57 |
| charlie-tca | madnick: we are a ways from having things work, but we are gaining | 21:58 |
| madnick | charlie-tca: just saying :) thing is that i could not figure out why i couldnt login, until i saw it used another keymap, but there is no way of changing at the login screen, so you have to dump to terminal and fix it | 22:00 |
| charlie-tca | crap | 22:00 |
| pleia2 | hehe, oh my http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/08/linus-switches-to-xfce-calls-gnome-3.html | 22:33 |
| charlie-tca | Ain't it great! | 22:36 |
| madnick | hehe, g3 makes my desktop as useless as an android pad :) | 22:37 |
| pleia2 | old news I guess :) but phew | 22:37 |
| madnick | i dont understand why they push those things | 22:37 |
| madnick | g3 = gnome3 | 22:37 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know, but let's hope Xfce stays away from the "easy to use interface" thing | 22:39 |
| pleia2 | me too | 22:40 |
| charlie-tca | I am beginning to really like linus | 22:41 |
| madnick | you didn't before? :D | 22:41 |
| charlie-tca | I have to say I do agree with his assessment of gnome3 and it applies to unity too. | 22:42 |
| pleia2 | well, unity was created because they saw that gnome3 was turning out to be.... an unholy mess | 22:42 |
| pleia2 | but yeah, I feel pretty much the same way about the both of them | 22:42 |
| * pleia2 supposes this is better for -offtopic | 22:45 | |
| charlie-tca | yeah, I suppose it is. But isn't xfce likes and dislikes on topic here? | 22:45 |
| Unit193 | If I want to use Windows, I'll use windows :P "I'm using Xfce. I think it's a step down from gnome2, but it's a huge step up from gnome3. Really" :/ | 22:59 |
| pleia2 | yeah, not exactly a glowing review but eh | 23:00 |
| charlie-tca | That's because Xfce is still very young compared to gnome and kde | 23:00 |
| Unit193 | Better than what Gnome 3 got though :P | 23:00 |
| charlie-tca | It really is still maturing | 23:00 |
| Unit193 | But it isn't bad as it is | 23:01 |
| charlie-tca | I sure dislike that "no restart button" in ubuntu now | 23:01 |
| Unit193 | I haven't really tried Ubuntu and I even pointed someone I know in person to X/K/LUbuntu (Give him all the options!) | 23:02 |
| charlie-tca | If they are coming from windows, the easiest one to learn is Ubuntu. But they are all a big change to set up and install software for., | 23:06 |
| charlie-tca | It is a real education to learn that you don't have to go find drivers and programs anymore. | 23:06 |
| madnick | When I was at uni, and netbooks were new, they all shipped linux, and me and some classmates got netbooks | 23:09 |
| madnick | They said they were unsuable, until i got them to install ubuntu flavours, they never been happier :) | 23:10 |
| charlie-tca | Great! | 23:12 |
| charlie-tca | it's all a gain for non-windows OS's | 23:12 |
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